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In this recap, Lesley and Brad reflect on their convo with Aletta Rochat, a trailblazing and executive presence coach, who shares what it really takes to show up with confidence. Together they unpack why owning your strengths—and saying no when it matters—can shift how you lead, speak, and connect with others. With this episode, you'll leave feeling grounded, energized, and ready to give yourself full permission to belong. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co.And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:The real-world script for gracefully exiting client relationships.Why permission and belonging unlock authentic confidence.The danger of saying yes out of guilt or reflex.The difference between reaction and intentional action.Why your greatest strengths may be things you take for granted.Episode References/Links:OPC Summer Tour https://opc.me/eventsOPC UK Mullet Tour https://opc.me/uk eLevate Mentorship Program - https://lesleylogan.co/elevatewaitlistPilates Income Accelerator … prfit.biz/accelerator Cambodia October 2025 Waitlist - https://crowsnestretreats.comAletta Rochat Website - https://www.alettarochat.comFemGevity - https://www.femgevityhealth.com/?via=lesleyCliftonStrengths by Gallup - https://www.gallup.com/cliftonstrengths If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! 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We don't identify that we have something that most people might not have, and that becomes our superpower. Lesley Logan 0:13  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:55  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the emboldening convo I had with Aletta Rochat in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that episode yet, you are missing out. She's amazing. She's a badass. You're gonna wanna listen to it after you listen to this one, if you can just go back into your feed. I mean, she's the first president-elect who's a female for the International Toastmasters. Brad Crowell 1:19  Yeah, international president-elect, yeah. Lesley Logan 1:21  Insane, amazing. And that's not even what she went to school for, or thought she'd be doing. So I just think it's great. We'll get into her in just a second. But first, today is May 29th 2025 and it's World Digestive Health Day. World Digestive Health Day is celebrated every year on May 29th around the world. I think it's really funny whenever they describe the day, and then the description is the same thing with the words. Brad Crowell 1:44  Yeah, it's also like today is May 29th. On May 29th we celebrate. Yes.Lesley Logan 1:51  The holiday provides resources and tools for gastrointestinal (G.I.) diseases to help more people in the general public make better decisions around their health. Awareness can lead to early diagnosis and treatment of G.I. diseases including cancer. It should also be known that G.I. diseases can lead to obesity. It can also create more understanding and better support for patients experiencing digestive diseases when their issues and conditions are better understood by the general public. I just think it's so important, if you are dealing with some stomach stuff, most people are not realizing how long they've been dealing with it, and it can lead to, as I mentioned, diseases, cancer, crazy stuff. You can have an imbalance of hormones, your mind, your actual mindset, how you feel, your emotions, are related to your gut, and if your gut biome is a fucking mess, and then you are also like, why does the world hate me? No amount of therapy is going to help you if your gut is telling your brain some other things. And so I highly, highly recommend, if you've got gut stuff going on, go advocate for yourself. If your G.P. is not listening to you, go talk to somebody else. We just had someone come to the house, which blew our mind. Our crappy insurance sent works to the company, and that company came to our house and literally sat down was like, what doctor referrals do you need? And I was like, oh, you can do that for me? And so you all know from over the last year how much FemGevity helped me with my gut stuff. Like, it's been really amazing to know the difference between like, I'm not feeling awesome, and, oh, this is my gut problem and. Brad Crowell 3:22  But it still doesn't change the fact that you have to go to a doctor locally to get blood drawn or things like that, right? Lesley Logan 3:28  Yeah, you still have to go do stuff, yeah? Well, FemGevity sends something to you, but you don't have to use it, like, you have to go, like, it is annoying to go advocate yourself. It is annoying to feel like you're crazy. It's annoying to feel like you're not being listened to. But literally, if you have H. Pylori, and you let it go on its own thing, it can lead to cancer, okay? If you have other things, it can lead like you don't get to ignore your gut, you don't get to. So I'm really excited that this day has its own day, which is May 29th, and it's a world holiday. Brad Crowell 3:56  It's a world holiday. Lesley Logan 3:58  Go talk to your G.I. about your shit, like literal shit. Okay, OPC Summer Tour tickets.Brad Crowell 4:06  Don't tell us about your shit when we meet you on tour. Lesley Logan 4:09  No, please don't. I don't want to hear it. I don't want to talk about my shit. I don't want to hear about your shit. But do you want to go on the West Coast tour? The tickets are already available. I actually don't even know how many cities we're going to at the time that we're recording this, but the team does.Brad Crowell 4:22  I haven't actually. Lesley Logan 4:22  We are, here's what I do know, we are spending a fuck ton of time and money to cross the border and go to Canada. So we are finally adding an international options to our West Coast tour. And so you're going to definitely want to the other Canada stops and or I know that we're hitting when I say West Coast, I mean California, Oregon, Washington. I know that we are hoping to do Idaho and Utah. Obviously while we're recording this, I don't have it in front of me, but I do know that the tickets sell fast, because our seventh tour, which is our winter tour, our last one, had literal cities sell out in 24 hours. So go to opc.me/events to see all the locations. Next up is September. We're going to be in the U.K. We have two cities with two day events at each one, Leeds and Essex.Brad Crowell 5:06  Nineteen.Lesley Logan 5:08  19 cities? Brad Crowell 5:08  I think we're on track for 19 cities with classes. Lesley Logan 5:12  Cool. Brad Crowell 5:12  Yeah, on the Summer Tour. Lesley Logan 5:13  Okay, well, thank you. So now we're on to Essex and Leeds and so this is our business in the front, Pilates in the back event, and it's two days long. Super fun, super affordable. You get six workshops, two classes for 550 pounds. Brad Crowell 5:29  I mean, it's kind of a steal, not a lot, yeah. Lesley Logan 5:32  Yeah, it's nuts, it's insane, and it's really fun. We get to spend a lot of time together, and the space is really limited and Leeds is like (inaudible).Brad Crowell 5:38  I think it's 485 pounds, 400, it's like 500 pounds. Somewhere around. Lesley Logan 5:41  Oh, maybe it's only 500 pounds. Brad Crowell 5:42  Yeah, because this is exchange thingy, so I can't remember exactly, but. Lesley Logan 5:46  Don't, don't listen to either of us quote a price. Just go to opc.me/uk. Brad Crowell 5:51  Yes. Lesley Logan 5:51  Because the early bird is over, but they're still a deal. Because the actual events, if we were to charge you for each one by itself, is like 2000 pounds, it was something ridiculous. Brad Crowell 5:59  That's way, way, way, way, way more. So yeah. Lesley Logan 6:02  So, opc.me/uk for the Leeds event or the Essex event. Leeds only has 16 spots, and I know we only have four left at the time we're recording this and then (inaudible).Brad Crowell 6:11  And it's not just Lesley who will be teaching, it'll be me, too. I'm actually gonna be there helping out. We're gonna do a couple of business life workshops, and then we're gonna do four Pilates workshops where you're digging into actual Pilates stuff, then I'm not teaching those. And then Lesley is also going to do a couple of classes and all the things, and then we're going to hang and, you know, all of it's going to be a blast, so. Lesley Logan 6:32  It's going to be so fun. And here's the deal, if you're like, oh, I'll go to the next U.K., I'm already in talks. Brad Crowell 6:37  Literally don't know when that's going to be. Lesley Logan 6:38  Yeah, I'm already in talks with several other countries that are across the world. And to be honest, Brad and I actually do like living in Vegas. So we are no longer doing multiple 12 hour flights in a year, just like not a thing for us. So I don't know that we'll hit the U.K. in the next two years after this. Brad Crowell 6:57  Yeah, at least.Lesley Logan 6:57  Even though that Brad loves it, we'd be there for vacation and not for work. So opc.me/UK is where you get your tickets there. What else, Brad? Brad Crowell 7:04  Okay, next up we got eLevate, y'all. If you've not heard of it, it's Lesley's Pilates mentorship program. It's a nine-month program, and you should do it, because it's going to change the way that you teach in incredibly dramatic way. You're going to feel way more confident about everything. People who take this program have told us they've stopped class planning. Their voices are not shot by the end of the day. They are not afraid of a random client walking in the door that they wouldn't necessarily know what to do with or prepare for. They don't have to do those things anymore, because when you go through this program, what you're going to do is you're going to dig in to all the different pieces of equipment, okay? And you're not just like learning exercises on them, although you will do that, you will learn everything that Lesley learned from Jay Grimes over the more than 10 years she studied with him and with Sandy Shimoda. You are actually going to be connecting the dots across the pieces of equipment that is going to allow you to understand why are you doing this thing with this person on the chair? Why would you then take them over to the barrels and do this other thing over there? And then, you know, because ultimately, you're understanding what their goals are, and then you can create the path through the equipment and through the exercises for them to reach their goals. Okay, how cool is that for you to just be able to understand that and not necessarily have to, like, go hit your books and be like, oh, I can't remember what I need to do with this person. No, when you go through elevate this stuff really comes together. And the the amount of confidence that has brought the people who have finished, which at this point, we got about 50 grads and 25 more people going through it this year. It's just been overwhelming feedback and in a positive way. And we want you to come. We're gonna do just the workout. Come get you know, move with Lesley, and then hang out afterwards. We're gonna do a Q&A talk all about eLevate. We are literally more than 50% sold out for 2026 so there's not that many spots left, but to find out about when this class is going to happen, go to lesleylogan.co/elevatewaitlist elevatewaitlist.Lesley Logan 9:09  I love this program so much. It's so much fun, and I'm really excited because next year we are going to do the two, two rounds again. We're not going to do it for the following year. This is the last time we can really commit to doing that, mostly because we just had so many people interested. We really, really didn't want you to wait. So we opened up another section, and like Brad said, it's almost sold out. It's just one of my favorite things. I get to spend so much time with you guys, and you, the progression, and then also, when you graduate, you're in the alumni group, and then I get to and then we're still together, and I'm still watching people elevate it's just (inaudible).Brad Crowell 9:25  We actually have a smaller group inside of the alumni who all virtually get together once a week to take an OPC class together and encourage each other and just get their movement. Lesley Logan 9:51  From around the world. Brad Crowell 9:52  From around the world. It's super cool. You know, we didn't set that up. They set it up. It's awesome. Anyway you want to be at this class. Go to lesleylogan.co/elevatewaitlist that'll be this summer. Brad Crowell 10:04  All right, next up, we got the Pilates Income Accelerator. If you are taking money from any person to teach them anything, whether that's Pilates or yoga or whatever, probably Pilates, because of who our audience usually is, I want you to come to this free workshop that I'm doing called the Pilates Income Accelerator. Go to prfit.biz/accelerator that's profit without the O dot biz slash accelerator. We're going to be covering three major secrets, about mindset, about money, about the numbers, and about marketing, and the messaging, the language you're using. We're going to be digging into those things, and then afterwards, I'm going to be able to answer questions about your business. So you can send in a question early, and I'll have it prepared so I can read through these questions and make sure everybody gets some kind of an answer here. I want you to come. It's free. You should do it. So go to prfit.biz/accelerator. Finally, Les, where are we going in October?Lesley Logan 10:59  Crowsnestretreats.com that's where we're going. We're going to our house in Siem Reap we have a lovely retreat planned for you. Oh my goodness. It's so wonderful. It's so cozy. It's a small group that can attend this event. We do Pilates five days. We go to the temples for two days. We take you to a lotus farm. We take you on a water tour. You get massages, and you also get to, like, really figure out what it is that you want when you leave, when you go home from the retreat. Brad Crowell 11:26  Yeah, so those are all what are we doing, but why would they go? Lesley Logan 11:30  Oh, I mean, because you're gonna feel like a freaking rock star when you come back, like you're actually gonna feel so good, you're gonna feel like you actually were in wonderment for a week. Wouldn't you like to get in wonderment for a week? I think so.Brad Crowell 11:43  Yeah. Wonder. Lesley Logan 11:45  Why do you think? Brad Crowell 11:46  When you think about Angkor Wat, it does create that intense curiosity, that wonder. How was it possible that they did what they did 1000 years ago, and for it to still be standing today, with all this epic, intricate carvings and all this stuff. You know, when you go on a journey like this, it's an adventure. You get to meet other amazing, adventurous people. We've also had, similar to eLevate, we've had retreaters stay connected afterwards. We've had like group retreat calls afterwards. We've had retreaters come back, bringing other people, because it was so inspirational. Lesley Logan 12:24  This coming one in October has someone from the last one, and then someone she's bringing her friend. And then last October, we had someone coming for the second year in a row, so like, just fun. Brad Crowell 12:34  Three or four times now, you know, yeah, we've had it happen over the years. Lesley Logan 12:38  It's a true like, when we hear the word retreat, it's like a true retreat. You get to really turn off what's going on in the world and focus on you and being in awe.Brad Crowell 12:47  Yeah, that's what's in it for you, y'all and you should join us. Go to crowsnestretreats.com. Before we get to Aletta, we have an audience question but. Lesley Logan 12:55  Yes, okay, I'm hijacking the questions again. Brad Crowell 12:57  Yeah, before you ask the question, I'm just gonna give it a quick preface. We spent the better part of a year building a tool that allows you to effectively have your own internal Google search situation going on through an AI tool that allows you to understand all the answers that Lesley and I have been giving to people for the past 10 years of coaching for fitness business. We call it the Pocket LL. And this tool, it was trained on 10 million words, where blog posts, webinars, courses, coaching, calls, group coaching calls, all these things where we're answering all these questions. And then we compiled it all into this insane database. And then we've got this awesome tool that you get to use when you're an Agency member. And today, we wanted to feature a question anonymously. We're not going to say the person's name, but we're going to feature a question that somebody actually asked the Pocket LL, so here you go.Lesley Logan 13:48  Yeah, so I have a problem client that gives me anxiety every time she comes in, but I owe her another six sessions in her 10 back. How do I fire her? Brad Crowell 13:57  That is, that's tough. Lesley Logan 13:58  And Pocket LL, said firing a client is never easy, but it's often necessary for your peace of mind and the health of your business. The image you see here captures an essential truth, it will never feel good to fire a client, but the sooner you take action, the fewer issues you'll have. Holding onto a problematic client can cost you more than just your sanity. It can affect your energy, your other clients and even your team. Here's how you can handle this gracefully. One, acknowledge sessions owed. You can refund the remaining six sessions or offer them to another instructor if you have one available, this ensures you're honoring the financial commitment without continuing the relationship. Two, be direct, but kind, say something like, thank you so much for working with me. I've realized that I'm no longer the best fit for your Pilates journey. I'd be happy to recommend another instructor or studio that might suit your needs better. Three, stick to your boundaries. If this client has been violating your policies or creating undue stress, don't feel obligated to explain or justify your decision. As I said before, you're not going to convince crazy. Keep it professional and move forward. I love when she quotes herself, which is me. Brad Crowell 15:00  You're not gonna convince crazy. That is amazing.Lesley Logan 15:03  I know. I mean, like I said that, so that's what I love about this. Okay. Four, prepare for pushback. Some clients may try to argue or guilt you into staying. Stay firm. Remember, you're creating space for better clients who respect your time and energy. And number five, focus on the opportunity. Once this client is gone, you'll have room for someone who uplifts you and aligns with your business values. Trust that the universe will fill that space with someone amazing. And then she always prompts with other questions. If you want to continue the conversation or you can just go start it's all good. Brad Crowell 15:32  Yep. Yeah. I mean, listening to those answers, I actually know the story behind every piece of that answer, because it's multiple conversations, over multiple calls, over multiple years, over multiple courses. And it's amazing that this, this tool is a, this search tool, is able to gather all that information and turn around and present it to you in a way that is cohesive, concise, and also you can actually use to take action. So. Lesley Logan 15:57  And it's and it's from all the years of experience of coaching thousands of businesses, and also all of my years of being and everything in this industry you could be. So I just really am so proud of the Pocket LL. And I do go through once a week and edit anything. And I'll, first, I stick with the things where people trigger an alert, because you could say avocado, if she makes sense to you. And then also I'll just go through for quality control and just read some of our answers. Sometimes I add another sentence because I'm like, oh, here's another idea. You know, now that I'm this many more years or I've helped this many more people, so it's always evolving. It's always getting better, and it's there for you no matter where you live in the world, as long as you're an Agency member. Brad Crowell 16:36  Yep, yeah. So if you're interested in what that even means, what that is, come to my free webinar like I was talking about go to prfit.biz/accelerator we will talk about Agency at the end, before I answer questions and come check it out.Lesley Logan 16:48  And then also, we'll go back to answering the questions you send in. I just wanted to hijack it because it's my podcast. Brad Crowell 16:53  I love it. I love it. All right. Well, stick around we'll be right back. We're going to dig into the conversation you have with Aletta Rochat. It was very inspirational. She is really good at bringing out excellence in people, so we'll be right back. Brad Crowell 17:09  All right. Welcome back. Let's talk about Aletta Rochat. Aletta is a public speaking coach and executive presence mentor based in Cape Town, South Africa. So an executive presence mentor, okay? She coached and trained in 21 countries, and will soon become the first woman from Africa the and only the 10th woman in 100 years to be the international president of Toastmasters International. So the 10th woman in the in what the last 100 years. She helps clients become more confident presenters by communicating with clarity, owning their presidents and reclaiming their sense of belonging. She also has been involved with Toastmasters since 2008. She has gone through all their educational material, and she's like the highest educator that they certify all the things she actually had a really great story about how she started to realize public speaking became like her survival mechanism, and then how it went on to now become her, you know, how she's supporting others succeed. I thought that was pretty cool. Lesley Logan 18:10  I also just, you know, like you like you hear, I heard about Toastmasters, like. Brad Crowell 18:14  I've heard about it so many times and I've never done, I don't even know what it was. Lesley Logan 18:16  And you kind of think like, oh, it's kind of like a Moose Club, like the Moose Lodge. Like, it's just, you know what I mean, but it's not, it's like, still going so strong, and it's helping a lot of people.Brad Crowell 18:26  She said they're in 150 countries. Lesley Logan 18:27  Yeah and it made me go all the people who are like, I need a friend. Go to fucking Toastmasters. Like, hear their stories. You'll connect. Yeah, you have to publicly speak, but you're gonna be around people.Brad Crowell 18:37  Well, she said you're guaranteed claps and guaranteed support, or you're guaranteed an audience and you're guaranteed claps. Lesley Logan 18:43  It sounds better than AA, where you also get both of those. I just think it sounds amazing. I'm so excited we're gonna highlight this. She said, "I show up differently when I think I belong." And she said that someone once told her, remember that you belong. That phrase helped her stay relaxed and be more spontaneous and likely to share her ideas. And I think that that's so important because for her to be where she's at in, in the world, but also in Toastmasters, each time she leveled up, there'd be, like, a reason to go, oh my God, who let me in here? They're gonna find out, like Maya Angelou is like, someone's gonna find out that I don't know what I'm doing. But if you remember that you belong, it changes how you show up. And you show up willing to be more yourself, which is going to allow you to connect with more people. And it's just so, so important. Brad Crowell 19:32  Well, I think also not only the vibes, the vibes are weird when you feel like you don't belong, but when you feel like you belong, you will approach the group, the conversation, the experience, in a much different way, because you're gonna participate. I mean, honestly, that's like the biggest thing. When you feel like you belong, you feel like you're allowed to participate, and if you feel like you don't belong, what do you do? You stand there and listen. You don't talk, you don't do anything. So I thought it was really, also, like, amazing that advice, hey, remember that you do belong. Remember that you do and she said, this was instantaneously a life-changing statement for her. Lesley Logan 20:11  Yeah. And so she even said, even though it wasn't a Be It Action Item yet, she said, "If you belong, how would you show up? How would you speak up?" And she says, like, it's like a fundamental building block of confidence and executive presence. And I just thought, yeah, we need to put that on our mirrors everywhere we can read them before we walk into a room where it's new for us. We're feeling a little nervous. I just thought was brilliant.Brad Crowell 20:32  I really dug in when she was talking about when to say yes, because you, you were asking her, it's like, wow, you seem willing to say yes to things. And she said, to my own detriment, sometimes I've said yes when I shouldn't have, but she said, the worst thing you could do is say yes to something that you don't want to do. And she was talking about, I think her example was like the Boy Scout troop, they asked her to do some specific role and and she said, thanks, but that's not the right role for me. I you know, she said there was nothing about it that lit me on fire, nothing that was exciting in any way to me, and to other people it might be really exciting, but for her, it wasn't. And she she said something very specific. She said when you say yes to something that you don't want to do, you literally start off building resentment from the, from day one. Lesley Logan 21:19  Yeah, she's correct. Honestly, I can look back going to the question, like, how do we fire a client? I remember taking the check going, I don't really want to teach her. And then the moment she texts me the next week, can I change my time? I'm like, like, it was, like a zero to 60 resentment, as opposed to someone I was really fired up to teach but like, oh yeah, this is your first time. We can do it, but not after that, you know. So she is 100%.Brad Crowell 21:44  Yeah, that was so poignant that she identified the resentment factor right out of the gate, you know. And we, why do we say yes to things that we don't want to do? Probably because we feel stuck, you know, like we feel like we have to. We feel like we're, you know, social pressure, guilt, money, something. There's underlying fear there that is making us do it. Could be family. That's like forcing us to do it, and it just builds that resentment. She said it should be both sides of the coin. You want to say yes because you want to do it and you also want to learn. I mean, what are the stories we tell ourselves? I have to say yes because I'm the right person for the job. I have the most experience. I just have to do it. No one else is going to do it, so I'm going to do it. These are a lot of reasons why we say yes, but we don't want to. Ultimately, it's important to offer service. I'm not arguing that we shouldn't be serving people, but even that service should be also doing something for you.Lesley Logan 22:37  Yeah, because you won't show up the same you just won't show up the same way. And I had someone who we actually really love and support in a lot of ways financially, and they'd ask me to be on a board. And if you guys have ever been around me, you know I've been on a board before I got burned. It was traumatizing. It was a whole thing. And I was like, I'll never be on an unpaid board again. And of course, I get this invite to apply. And I was like, there's a part of me is like, oh, they want me. And then I was like, oh, I can't do this. And then I was like, oh, I'm gonna let them down. I have, I know they need someone. Maybe I could do it if it's just, like, this much time a week, I was literally doing like, mental gymnastics to figure out how to say yes to the thing I already knew would not be the right thing. And then it took me forever to write up a thank you. But no, thank you. And you know what they said? We totally understand and thank you for being so honest. We don't want anyone to do this because they feel obligated, you know, and know that the door's always open if you, if anything ever changes and I was just like, oh, it could be that simple. It could be that simple. And honestly, if they'd answered any other way, I've been like, we're so disappointed. That is a fucking red flag to run away from. But if they're willing to be grateful, and you know, if they asked me, like, Who else do you do you know anyone else who could be right for this? I would have absolutely sent them some people, you know. So I just think that, like you can also see the true colors of the person if you're, if you're being authentically honest about whether you can say yes or no. Brad Crowell 24:09  I was laughing when she started to, to, she basically said, if you have helium hand, where just your hand goes up and you can't seem to stop it. I was laughing. I was like, what did she say? I literally rewound it. Listened to it twice. She said she's now learned to sit in her hands every now and again. So, good for her. And she said, you know, just make sure saying yes is not a reaction or a reflex reaction, but it's a concerted action. It's a decision that you're making. So awesome. Brad Crowell 24:37  Well anyway, great takeaways right there from Aletta. Stick around. We'll be right back. We're going to dig into those Be It Action Items. Brad Crowell 24:46  All right, welcome back. Let's dig into those Be It Action Items from Aletta Rochat. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo? She said, hey, here is how you identify your superpowers, which I'm all about. She said what are the clues to your superpowers? It's what other people keep asking you for help with. What is, what is it that you are consistently asked about, like, hey, can you help me, like, prep this thing or cook this dish or organize this event or be on the board or whatever. What is the thing that you keep being asked to do? She shared that most people overlook their strength, strengths because A. they come supernaturally to you. You might not even realize that they are a strength that you have, that others don't. They often become the most powerful gifts, right? Like, my mom has the gift of gab. That's what everybody said. Wow your mom, she's amazing. She talks to everybody. She's got the gift of gab, right? Well, sometimes the gift of gab was like, my dad was like, are we ready to go? Are we ready to go? So the way that I grew up, sometimes the gift of gab was a negative thing, because it was like, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, right? And it wasn't until later that I realized that it can also be a positive thing. So sometimes we look at what actually is a strength in the wrong light.Lesley Logan 26:04  Because somebody may have told you, yeah, told you you talk too much, or you're a big jokester, or you don't take things seriously, but there's always a positive side to a coin. Brad Crowell 26:12  Yeah, and I'm not trying to do my dad a disservice there, but I called him out, that's not what I meant.Lesley Logan 26:17  If Steven listens to this. Hi, Steven. You can come visit anytime.Brad Crowell 26:30  Aletta said that somehow society, that's a very inside joke, y'all, and I don't think literally, anybody except for my family, would get that. Aletta also said somehow society has conditioned us that we tend to verbalize what we're good at saying, oh, it's nothing, no big deal. Oh, yeah, you know, glad to help. You know, but we don't actually identify that it's really a superpower. An example that I didn't understand when I was in my band in when I first moved out to L.A. and I'm like, running around getting us set up to do the get the show, I talked to the venue owner, I like, figured out the night of the week that the band could do it. We rehearsed. We had to do a bunch of rehearsals. We get in there. We made a little marketing flyer. We distributed the marketing flyer, got it out into the community. All to do what? I just wanted to play. I just wanted to play on stage, right? And so I'm doing all the things to so that I can get up on stage and play. And what I didn't understand was that doing all those things that's actually part of my superpower. I saw the path through, how do I get to the end goal, you know? And then what are the steps that we need to do to do it? And ultimately, when I, when I finally identified that this was a strength of mine by doing the Strengths Finders exam, the first time I took it in 2010, it was this mind-blowing thing, because I was like, oh, everybody doesn't do that. I thought this was just the what you just do, what you have to do. I guess. That's the way I saw it. And it wasn't until I understood that this was actually valuable that I was able to go get a job to do literally that, and that's how I got into operations instead of companies. Kind of crazy. (inaudible) Yeah, you know, she said, We trivialize it because we don't recognize this as a strength. We hold back articulating our value. We don't identify that we have something that most people might not have, and that becomes our superpower. It can, it should. When we look at it through that lens, suddenly you're like, oh, this is something I'm inherently good at, and that is really a superpower. It's amazing. Like my mom's gift of gab is a superpower. You know, figuring out a way through the chaos is my superpower. But how do you identify that? Right? Then, when you finally are able to identify that again, I do recommend Strengths Finders, Clifton Strengths, they call it now. Now you get to finally say, my superpower is x, right?Lesley Logan 28:48  Yeah. Brad Crowell 28:49  What about you? Lesley Logan 28:50  Okay, so I said it before, but I think it's real. I really love that it's back here in the Be It Action Items, just in case you need to hear it again. She said, reclaim your sense of belonging and give yourself permission to belong. Aletta urged us to reclaim the feeling of belonging if we've lost it. She emphasized, it's within our power to grant ourselves permission to belong. And once you reclaim it, start playing with it. You can start thinking and start speaking and start acting as if you belong. It might feel like you're this is like the true be it till you see it, it's gonna feel like you're acting. There was an interview that's coming out, or it may have already been out, where someone talked about how they love the podcast name, because every day, we allow actors to play a role in a movie, and we believe them, right? We believe that they are that person for that period of time. And being it till you see it is like acting as it. And so you are going to reclaim it, and you're gonna play with it. You're gonna play with belonging, all that stuff, and before you know it, you'll have played it so much that you become it. That's it. You become the person that belongs. You're giving yourself permission. So I just thought, I was like, that's a be it till you see it right there. That's why this exists. So thank you, Aletta, for being you. You're so amazing. I'm so glad we're able to make this happen. I'm Lesley Logan. Brad Crowell 30:03  And I'm Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 30:04  Thank you so much for listening. I hope this was really awesome for you. I really loved it. I also just love her voice. I love the way she explained things, the helium hand, like there's just so many things to go back to and listen. So please take another listen through if you haven't already, share it with a friend who needs to hear it, especially the ones who need to sit on their hands, but also the ones who need to be reminded that they belong and until next time, Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 30:26  Bye for now.Lesley Logan 30:28  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod. Brad Crowell 31:10  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 31:15  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 31:19  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 31:26  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 31:30  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Branding isn't just logos and fonts—it's your energy, your story, and your “why”. In this recap, Lesley and Brad explore how aligning with your purpose and showing up consistently is the secret sauce to building a magnetic brand that truly connects. With insights on storytelling, clarity, and emotional connection, this episode is packed with real talk for business owners ready to attract aligned clients and stand out from the noise. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co.And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:Why how your brand makes people feel matters more than what you sell.Why aligning your mindset with your message attracts the right clients.Why consistency—not perfection—builds trust and connection.How storytelling drives emotional engagement with your brand.Why your brand should start with your “why,” not your “what”.Episode References/Links:OPC Summer Tour - https://opc.me/eventsUK Mullet Tour - https://opc.me/ukeLevate Workout and Q&A - https://lesleylogan.co/elevatewaitlistPilates Studio Growth Accelerator - https://prfit.biz/acceleratorCambodia October 2025 Waitlist - https://crowsnestretreats.comEp. 57: Hilary Hartling - https://beitpod.com/hilaryhartlingHilary Hartling Website - https://hilaryhartling.comHilary Hartling Instagram - https://instagram.com/hilaryhartlingBrand Vision Meditation - https://beitpod.com/brandvisionmeditation If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! 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I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 0:48  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the clarifying convo I had with Hilary Hartling in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to the interview, feel free to pause this, listen to that one, then come back and listen to this one, or listen to this one and then go see if you like the same takeaways we liked. You can do whatever order you want. It's quite fun. Brad Crowell 1:12  Hilary is amazing. Lesley Logan 1:13  I just fucking love her. Brad Crowell 1:14  Yeah. And honestly. Lesley Logan 1:15  You are, if you, if you, we'll get into it in a second, but just like if you to stop, pass and go in this moment on of this episode, you should go, if you have a business, you have to, well, if people just want to stop listening, they could go. They just need to know this real quick before they stop listening, which now they probably stopped. But if they have, they're still here, you have your own business, you have to, like, work with Hilary at some point,like, she's just a fucking badass. And she's, like, so humble about it. Like a hundred box office situation. We'll get to that in a second.Brad Crowell 1:46  It was just 70 something, 75, you know, top box office movie releases, and she basically did the messaging for the marketing team. Lesley Logan 1:55  Yeah, actually she's a bad ass. Brad Crowell 1:56  Kicking ass. Lesley Logan 1:57  Today is May 22nd 2025 and it's Harvey Milk Day. On May 22nd, we honor the life and legacy of Harvey Milk, the first openly gay politician in California and a leader of the American Civil Rights Movement. Time magazine included Harvey Milk on a list titled The 100 Most Important People in the 20th Century. Milk was not only an advocate for the LGBT community, but all for all minorities. He believed in safe, strong neighborhoods and supported public education, affordable child care and equal rights for all. Just right there, we have more to go, but it pisses me off he's fucking dead, because just imagine if he'd lived longer, we probably would have had all those things a lot sooner. But anyway. Brad Crowell 2:33  And this was 1978, we are almost 50 years later and still fighting for the same goddamn things. Lesley Logan 2:40  Sometimes some of us are fighting for the ones we had already. Elected to the position of city supervisor in San Francisco, he held office for one year before his life was tragically cut short in 1978 by a political rival who opposed Milk's liberal views. Harvey Milk's contributions to the cause of equality for all people has been recognized in a number of ways, including the issuance of a stamp with his picture on it, the posthumanist award of the Medal of Freedom and the creation of a holiday in his memory. Harvey Milk Day was officially established as a holiday in 2009 when Arnold Schwarzenegger, then the, then governor of California, signed it into law. Although Milk died, his work continues today through the work of the Harvey Milk Foundation, founded by his nephew, Stuart Milk, in honor of his uncle. I just want to say, if you actually want to go even deeper on this, there's a great movie, I believe, with Sean Penn. And then if you also want to know more, you should listen to the You're Wrong About episode about the Twinkie defense, because the man who murdered him used the Twinkie defense to not have the death penalty. And so I just w ant, like, it's a really, it's also.Brad Crowell 3:49  The Twinkie defense was basically that processed foods and sugar jacked him up to the point where he committed murder. That's just, like, high level summary of it. Lesley Logan 3:58  And side note, I just listened to an entire podcast where there's a scientist who's actually trying to prove that processed food is changing people's minds, and they're actually discovering not in the way that we think. Anyways. I mean, I'm a little upset about it, mostly because I just hate when amazing people are murdered and then other assholes find an asshole way to get away from it. So go learn about Harvey Milk and on this day and do something in your community that can support those in the LGBTQ DEI communities because they need your help. They need people to stand up, people like you. Lesley Logan 4:28  Okay, you guys, we literally just announced Summer Tour. We just did it. Actually it was about a week ago. So tickets have been selling really fast. Brad Crowell 4:37  Like super fast. Lesley Logan 4:38  And here's the deal. Our winter tour, we had several cities sold out in 24 hours, and a ton of cities sold out in the first week. So if you if this is the first time you're hearing about the Summer Tour. Brad Crowell 4:47  Lo Santo, get on it. Lesley Logan 4:48  Yeah, run. Don't walk to opc.me/events and snag a spot. We're doing west coast. We're also, holy fucking moly, going into Canada. And because of all the shenanigans going on, we are filling out intense paperworks, paying lots of money to get our van and our cute dog across the border so we can teach in three cities in Canada. Brad Crowell 5:11  And ourselves. Lesley Logan 5:12  And ourselves. Yes, yes. Brad Crowell 5:13  All the paperwork, all the paperwork, all. Lesley Logan 5:16  There's a lot. So we want to see you. We especially want to see you in Canada. So get your, get your classes, too. One or two, Canadians. Maybe come to two of them. So opc.me/events. The Mullet Tour is our business in the front Pilates in the back, two day event. It is in the U.K., and it is at opc.me/uk. We have a Leeds location and an Essex location. By the time we're recording this, Leeds has four spots left, and Essex is half sold out. So here's the deal. Probably you're looking at Essex only, but just go and look and see. Space is super limited in both and you don't have to be a Pilates teacher to go. Just be a Pilates lover, especially in Essex, the two business, in air quotes, workshops are actually life workshops, and so they're super, super fun. Lesley Logan 6:04  And then I am hosting an eLevate workout and Q&A really soon, it's going to be this summer. So if you've been hearing about eLevate, you're not really sure, if you're a teacher, comprehensively trained teacher, and you would like to teach a little bit more like me and have less talking in your words. Or if you want to have more confidence, what, you explain it, you're looking at me like I'm making shit up.Brad Crowell 6:29  I'm super laughing at you. Yes, you would be teaching more like Lesley, but that's not. Lesley Logan 6:33  You'll still teach like you. Brad Crowell 6:34  The reality, the reality is that Lesley learned what from Jay Grimes for about 10 years. More than 10 years, she's passing on everything she learned to you during this program. It's a nine-month program. It is going to cover all the different pieces of equipment and literally hundreds of exercises that Lesley has learned. And also we're going to connect you with some other amazing, epic, epic, epic Pilates people from around the world during this program. Literally, you've had people find their new best friend they never knew they they didn't have. So. Lesley Logan 7:06  It's really quite fun. Brad Crowell 7:07  It's super, super cool. And then after that, you'll be able to call yourself a third generation teacher. You'll actually understand what to do with anybody that walks through the door. You can stop class planning. You can stop talking as much while, while you're teaching. I don't know why we pick up these habits along the way. Not that I'm a teacher, but it is the biggest confidence booster. That's the biggest feedback we get, is the amount of confidence that's boosted. So anyway, eLevate is awesome. And literally, we've already started filling 2026's group. So.Lesley Logan 7:34  2026 is more than half filled. Brad Crowell 7:36  Yes, literally, more than half filled. And there's not going to be that many spots. So join this waitlist now, when we do this big event, we're gonna do a class, we're all gonna hang out, we can answer questions about it. Is it the right thing for you? Is the timing right? All those kinds of things, you know, how does it all work? Everything. Go to lesleylogan.co/elevatewaitlist, elevate waitlist. Okay?Lesley Logan 7:56  And next, Brad, what else do we have? Brad Crowell 7:58  Yeah, hey, if you are making money by teaching Pilates in any way, I want you to come to my free Pilates income accelerator, okay, it's an income accelerator, so it's applicable to anybody who's taking money from clients, okay, or getting paid as a teacher, and you're eventually hoping to take clients at home or somewhere else, or whatever. This program has been incredibly beneficial to I mean, I've been doing similar webinar now, workshop now for, like, more than almost a year, and we're going to be covering the three biggest secrets that Lesley and I have learned after coaching more than 2500 people just like you, who are teaching people and getting paid for it. So I want, if you want to accelerate your income with Pilates, go to prfit.biz/accelerator. That's profit without the O dot biz slash accelerator and come join me for free. It's really great. So, finally, Les, what are we doing? Lesley Logan 8:52  Lastly, but not leastly, you need to come to our retreat this summer in Siem Reap. You need to come. crowsnestretreats.com is where you can get the information. But, I'm telling you, we have a lot of people like, oh, I'm gonna go next one. I'm gonna go to the next one. There is never a perfect year to take yourself on an international trip. Everything feels overwhelming. And I promise you, I promise you, this retreat is the least overwhelming thing you'll ever do, because once you land on that at the airport in Siem Reap, we pick you up. We have someone who takes care of you. You don't have to worry about anything. The whole trip is planned. We actually make sure you get to see all the things that people want to see, all the things people didn't know they should see, all the, all of the things. It is the most amazing schedule of a retreat ever. And we get to hang out together in this really close-knit group. We're like a family. If you really want to hang out with me in person, the best thing you can do is go on a retreat, because you literally get to hang out with me all day, every day, and we do Pilates, and we do breath work, and we do a ton of other stuff. So it's kind of amazing. Brad Crowell 9:47  You know? So, okay, so we were in Thailand. We were in Northern Thailand, and we went to Chiang Rai, and while we were there, we did a tour. Now, I am averse to tours. That's not my jam. I prefer to figure it out on my own. I want to walk around the city by myself and just like experience the city and feel it. And the reality is that I was feeling overwhelmed, and I knew this vacation was coming, and I was really looking forward to the vacation, but I ran out of time to literally learn all the cool potential things that I might want to do in Chiang Rai and then weigh them against each other and check our schedule and map out my own plan, which is what I normally love to do. I love to get my hands dirty. Lesley Logan 10:29  That's why we do these tours, guys, because he plans every part. Brad Crowell 10:32  So yeah, it was so much to try to comprehend with just whatever was happening in my life that we asked around and we found a tour group that we could go with that effectively planned out an entire day. We did like, eight or 10 things, and I'm not gonna lie, it was fucking long, but it was really nice, because we had someone who could explain what was actually going on. Then we would stop at the place for an hour, we walk around and check it out, and come back and and I, for the first time in my life, since I was like, 18, because that's the last time I did that kind of a thing. I was like, You know what? This is really helpful. You know why? Because I didn't have to plan the damn thing. So that is exactly what Cambodia is for you. You don't have to plan it.Lesley Logan 11:09  Our Cambodia, specifically. Brad Crowell 11:11  Yeah, when you come to the retreat with us, you don't have to plan anything. We literally take care of all of it for you. And I'll tell you right now it is, we have now done, Lesley and I have led over 20 retreats, 21 retreats over the years, not all in Cambodia, but we are really good at what we do now, because we've just got so many reps under our belt. We now have mapped out this specific Cambodia retreat in a way that is just, it's like butter, it's amazing, and I'm so proud of it. And I'm telling you, you're going to get there and be like, I felt like I had enough free time. I got a chance to do some adventure stuff. I still felt safe. I ate amazing food. I met cool people. There's something exciting about being in another city, in another country, and all the things, and we really want you to come join us. So, do that. Go to crowesnestretreats.com crowsnestretreats.com. Before we keep going, though, Les, we had an audience question, and this time we're gonna switch it. You're gonna read the question. Lesley Logan 12:07  I'm reading it. So this is actually so what we thought to just mix it up for this week. If you hear about Agency and you hear about the Lesley bot, or the pocket Lesley, or whatever we're calling it right now, you might be like, I don't understand what that means, because you can't see it. Brad Crowell 12:21  Agency is Profitable Pilates, y'all, so our coaching group where we coach Pilates business instructors, yeah. Lesley Logan 12:27  Yeah. So I thought it'd be fun. I'm going to keep their name anonymous, because I, that would be the right thing to do, but we had somebody ask the pocket Lesley. This person also lives in a different country, so when this came in, technically, I was, like, very much asleep. And so this is so fun for me to see, because I actually do read what comes through, mostly what's alerted, but also i'll just like, you know, just like, out of quality control and curiosity, I'll go through some of the others and to see if I'm like, I like that answer. So this person wrote, they're an Agency member, and they put into the Pocket Lesley, hi, Lesley, how can I get private clients for one-on-one sessions? And Pocket Lesley wrote back right away, by the way, she's so fucking quick and her grammar is better than mine. To attract private clients for one-on-one sessions, the key is to combine clarity in your offerings with proactive outreach. Here's how you can get started. One, refine your message. Make sure your website and social media clearly communicate who you are as an instructor, and the benefits of private sessions with you. High level, it makes you unique, whether it's your expertise in a specific area, like posts where you have Pilates, or your ability to tailor sessions to individual goals. If your messaging is too broad, it won't resonate with your ideal clients. And then the Lesley, pocket Lesley cited two sources in Profitable Pilates that's in the curriculum or elsewhere, so that this person could actually go dig into just refining your message. Number two, leverage, current clients. Your existing clients are your best marketers. Ask them to refer friends or family who might benefit from private sessions. You could even offer an incentive, like an intro session for the referer or for the new client. That one also has sources. Number three, network locally. During your downtime, visit local businesses, introduce yourself. For example, if you teach near a coffee shop or gym, strike up conversation with people there. Share what you do and invite them to try a session. Building relationships in your community can lead to valuable referrals, more sources cited within your Profitable Pilates curriculum and community. Literally, I know you're like, I'm shy. I don't care if you're shy, you are the person who's gonna help people, okay? Number four, partner with complimentary businesses. Think about where your ideal clients spend their time. Partner with businesses like physical therapy clinics, yoga studios or even golf courses. Offer special promotion for their clients, like an introductory private session. This not only gets your name out, but also positions you as a trusted expert. Also more sources on that. Number five, this is the last one, optimize your online presence and show you're easily found online. If someone searches Pilates in your area, your website should be near the top of the results. Simple SEO tweaks can make a big difference. If this feels overwhelming, I can guide you further. It also cites a source. Which takes you to a course that's in your curriculum that you have access to as an Agency member, which helps you write copy that converts. So, you know, like all of that's her. Then she goes on to ask her more stuff. And this person was able to have, continue to have a conversation. But I share that with you because I think it's really like, you're like, I don't know, I don't know how, like, I don't want to talk to like, not Lesley. You were literally talking to me. It's just, it's an AI version of me who's been trained on 10 million of my words over 10 years of coaching calls and courses and webinars. Oh, my God, so many things. Brad Crowell 15:33  Like, so much content. Lesley Logan 15:34  And so what's really cool is you don't have to wait for my response, because if you wait, then you have to wait for my response, and then you could lose two days or three days, you could been working on getting, attracting those one-on-one clients. So I hope it was fun to kind of hear what's happening behind the scenes with the Pocket Lesley, if you are an Agency member, obviously we love answering your questions, so you can just send them in. But I wanted to just override that this is.Brad Crowell 15:58  Yeah, I love that. And if you're wondering what the heck is Agency? Come to the Accelerator that I was talking about, the income accelerator, prfit.biz/accelerator. But at the end of that, we talk about what is Agency. And then I also answer your questions live. So any question about your business there, we can talk about it, but we can also, you know, dig in a little bit more on what is the Pocket LL, and how does it all work. It's really fun. Lesley Logan 16:19  So you don't have to be tech savvy to use her. It's like texting with a friend, and that friend just happens to be really smart around your business. Brad Crowell 16:27  That's true. Stick around, we'll be right back. We're gonna dig into this epic conversation that you just have with Hilary Hartling in just a minute. Brad Crowell 16:36  Welcome back, everybody. Let's talk about Hilary Hartling. Hilary is a brand and messaging strategist for mission-driven entrepreneurs who want to captivate the right clients with clarity and confidence. With 15 years of experience at Disney as a marketing executive, Hilary blends big brand insights with soul-aligned strategy to help business owners stand out. Through her signature programs, she helps clients find their voice and embody their purpose and create a brand that's both impactful and magnetic. And I think she still may hold the record for the most webinars for our coaching group. Lesley Logan 17:13  I think so. Brad Crowell 17:14  She might be tied with Monica, four, five. Lesley Logan 17:18  I feel like we've had Hilary one more time than Monica, but I learned from her every single time. Her last one was the best one. She's just, she's gold. You know, we've always talked about having an ideal client avatar. You hear that all the time, and she's like, they need to be a real person. And so it's an ideal real person client avatar, and she's just, she teaches so much, and she's really, truly great, no matter how big your business is. So one of the things that I love, that she said, is every brand has an energy to it. Every business owner has an energy, and that is what radiates out. She explained that when you harness your own energy and articulate your most authentic self, that's when you captivate your audience. And she called it a reciprocal energy flow, where what you put out is what you attract back. And this is important. This is and I have experienced this in my life, the minds and beliefs you have around your brand reflect in your audience response. If you were feeling like shit about your business. And then you wonder, when everyone's piling on and making your, you feel like more shit. It's because that's what you're putting out. You know, like, that's what you're putting out there. And so she emphasized that brand energy isn't about features, but how people feel when they engage with your business. So a lot of times, you get really excited about the features and all the different things that your business does, but you're not actually talking about how people are going to feel. Brad Crowell 18:34  Yeah. 100% this is the most clear example. Hey, y'all Pilates class starts at six, right? That's the messaging. Instead of, hey, you know, when you take a class here, you're going to feel amazing, right? Way different thing, like, Pilates class starts at six. Do I even want to go? Who are you? What's in it for me? Why? Okay, great. I know Pilates, but that's not compelling enough. Whereas it's like, oh, you know a place where you'll find Zen, community and energy, you know, like something like that, when you're, when you're when you're painting the picture of what they're, they're gonna get, what they're gonna feel when they engage with you. It's totally different. Lesley Logan 19:12  Go from exhausted to on fire, you know, like or whatever, and you but you have to use the words and the feelings that your people want. They might not want to feel like a rock star. They might want to feel Zen, or they might not want to feel Zen, that word might make him feel tired, so like you got to know them a bit. But I just really love that she brought it back to us as the business owner. We have to focus on how our mindset is around our business, so that we are actually attracting the people we really want to engage with.Brad Crowell 19:38  Yeah, I really loved when she was talking about consistency. She said it's one of the pieces that creates the magic for your brand. Consistency is one of the pieces that creates magic for your brand. She explained that not everyone is consistent, and obviously that is your edge. Just keep putting one's foot in front of the other, one step at a time. Keep going. Keep going. Keep going. You know, we've talked about the overnight success thing before, which we, is obviously hilarious. You're a 10-year overnight success. But how did they do that? They did that because they just maintained they were consistent. Also, when you're consistent, one of the big pluses is that you stay in front of your audience. You stay at the top of their mind. You're putting out that email like daily emails have the least unsubscribes, right? Daily, weekly, if you're monthly, that doesn't feel consistent, even though you know you're just sending one a month, they're gonna look at and be like, who's that person again? I can't remember. When you're top of mind, people immediately think of you. It's one of the ways that you can be, quote-unquote, become known, but on your own list, right? You're staying known in their lives, wherever they are, as opposed to getting known in your community, which is obviously just as important. It's just that's in real life, out and about where this is, like the newsletter examples on your list, but when people are ready to buy they're going to be like, oh yeah, I wanted to do that Pilates thing, and they're going to be like, oh well, I've been following such and such Pilates person, and I'll just go back and get the most recent email, because they know where it is, right? And she said that showing up, you don't need to be like a rocket scientist or like the the most prolific Pilates teacher in the world in order to build a business, because when you're consistent, you don't have to be this big, flashy speaker, this big person in front of the room all the time to get people's attention. Just by being consistent, you can, you can stay connected to them. So, yeah, I love that. I thought that was amazing. Lesley Logan 21:28  Yeah. I just, I mean everything. If you, if you're listening to this and you haven't listened to her, you should go listen to her. And you have to listen to her, her other one with us, because, like, it's kind of amazing. They're different, and they build on each other, and you'll see exactly how consistent she is and like what she believes. Brad Crowell 21:45  Yep. All right, well, stick around. We'll be right back. We're going to dig into those, be it action items that we got from Hillary in just a minute. Brad Crowell 21:53  All right, welcome back. Let's talk about those Be It Action Items. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Hilary Hartling, I'm going to jump in first. She echoed Simon Sinek, and she said, people don't buy what you do. They buy why you do it, right? They don't buy what you do. They buy why you do it. So if they are buying, why you do it, but you're talking about what you do, you're missing it. You're disconnected from them, right? You need to be talking about why you do it, or why they should be doing it, the why. It's all about the why, right? Your brand needs to express what you believe in, not just what you sell features, you know, and the features or the process, right? So that's where, when we are sitting down with new people to figure out, who am I supposed to be talking to, we start internally first. What is your mission here? What is your vision for your business? What is your mission? Why are you doing this? Why, why, why are you doing this? Right? What are your values? How do we figure those things out? And then who are we trying to connect to that's probably going to really resonate with those things. The language that you use when you're out there talking to people is the secret sauce, y'all, in marketing. It's all about the language you use. How do we figure out that language? We got to figure out these other things first. What is your mission, vision, values? Who is it that you're trying to talk to? What are the things that they connect with? How do we take all of that information and then boil that down into your we call it an I help statement. You know, it's like an elevator pitch. It's like, how do you concisely say something but still make it attractive to them? So you know, it really does start with your why. She talked about the Disney story about marketing the movie called The Rookie. She's like, it's not just a baseball movie, right? Even though, clearly it's about baseball, she said it's actually a story about second chances and never giving up, right? Consistency, tenacity, determination, all those kinds of things. It happens to be surrounded by baseball. But the story is actually about, you know, the success of after being consistent, right? And she said, when you, when you start to identify these things, let's make the parallel. It's not about baseball. It means it's not about the Pilates. It's not about the Pilates. Y'all. It's about it's a story about second chances and never giving up. Their Pilates journey with you could be about carving out time for themselves that from their chaotic life, like treating themselves first. It could be about building that strength. It could be about making sure that they can play with their kids or grandkids, you know, if they're aging. Or it could be about whatever the story is for them. Maybe they're an avid golfer and they blew out their knee and they need rehab, right? So it's not about the Pilates, y'all, it's about the thing in that's that brought them to do the Pilates. Obviously you need to be good at teaching Pilates, but that's not the ultimate point, so.Lesley Logan 24:42  And if you're not a Pilates instructor, listen to this, it's whatever you do. Insert that word there. Brad Crowell 24:46  Yeah, it could be yoga. It could be rehab, pyro. Lesley Logan 24:49  You don't even have to be in business to really understand that you yourself are like a brand. If you like to host people over. It's not you have to sell people to come in to your dinner. But when you're consistent, it makes it so much easier for you to do the thing that you love, which is like hosting people for dinner, you know, so it applies to everyone. My biggest takeaway is that she really tied branding back to the, to intuition. So for my woo-woo folks, this part's for you. She said, when you're in your flow, you only attract what you want. You become a magnet for the best people, opportunities and growth. Her advice is, figure out what excites you and follow it. When you wake up excited you are in your flow. And this is so true, because actually, the worst night's sleep, I slept so hard for four hours in the night dreaming that I need to be up. It was a little I don't know why anyways, but I was so excited for the day that I was having, even though I was like, oh my God, I really need to take a nap, and there's no time today, I woke up excited, and I started with my day, and I, like, did all the things, and here we are talking middle of the day, which would be a prime nap time, and it's not going to work out for me, but I am so excited. I'm in flow because I'm doing what my intuition is wanting. I'm doing the things that, like, really call me. She also advised not to wait for perfection, because it can't be perfect unless you put it out there to get feedback from your ideal clients. So you will never make anything perfect without it actually going out into the world getting feedback, you tweaking it, you putting it back out there. It's just how, it's, nothing, sorry, guys, nothing is ever done. It just keeps getting better.Brad Crowell 26:20  It, yeah, I mean, it's the fail faster mentality, right? You know, the reality is that when you wait for it to be ready, quote-unquote, you know, or you to be ready, quote-unquote, you will never be ready. You'll never be ready, right? And so then what ends up happening is you're preparing, preparing, preparing, preparing for years, but you never pull the trigger, as it were, you never actually take that step to get out there. And the people who take that step when they're not feeling ready are the people that move forward, moving forward right? Otherwise you're, you're hoping that it's going to happen, but you're not actually doing it, right? So, I totally agree. You know, perfectionism, it is such a roadblock. It's such an obstacle, and it holds us back. Brad Crowell 27:07  Yeah, it's really holding a lot of people back. It's holding people from seeing your authentic self. So, thank you, Hilary, for reminding us to go with our intuition and follow our authenticity and go back to what's the feeling. You're so amazing. You guys, go check her out.Brad Crowell 27:20  By the way, she has, like, a really awesome meditation situation. She's got a guided meditation that helps you, in 20 minutes, start to identify some of the main language that you should be using to support your clients or attract those clients. I think we put the link in the last episode, but we can also put the link in this episode too. Lesley Logan 27:40  So good. Brad Crowell 27:40  So go check that out. We love Hilary Hartling. She is amazing. Lesley Logan 27:44  We almost just named her Harling. Hilary Hartling. You guys, thank you so much for being here. I'm Lesley Logan. Brad Crowell 27:52  And I'm Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 27:53  I hope this really, truly helps you in the next steps to being it till you see it. So if you have any questions, feedback, anything like that, make sure you send it in to us and make sure you share this to the friend who needs to hear it. Right? That's how this podcast grows, but also this is how everyone around you becomes better and better and better and makes it more fun to be with your friends. And until next time, Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 28:10  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 28:11  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 28:54  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 28:59  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 29:03  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 29:10  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 29:14  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Celebrating global wins and personal milestones, Lesley highlights the incredible breakthroughs from Olympic champion Kirsty Coventry and Agency members launching new programs and signing dream leases. She also reflects on the powerful feedback that reminded her why showing up truly matters and the values she strives to embody as a teacher and coach. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co.And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:Why Kirsty Coventry's IOC appointment is so powerful.How Nancy created new revenue with her first coaching client.How Katelyn successfully signed the lease on her dream studio.​How feedback can fuel your self-worth and confidence.Episode References/Links:About Kirsty Coventry - https://www.instagram.com/p/DHeS0dzOYE1 If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! 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Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:48  Hi, Be It babe. All right, today is episode, is our Fuck Yeah Friday episode is our sweet, short, inspirational gives you all the things you need. Maybe hear a win of your own, or here are some things that people are calling wins and something that inspires me, a win of yours and a win of mine, in the middle we have a mantra, and we go into our weekend the best way possible. Lesley Logan 1:05  So this I saw on the gram, and it inspired the heck out of me. So for the first time in its 131 years, the International Olympic Committee elects a woman president, Olympic champion Kirsty Coventry makes history. So Kirsty Coventry has been elected as the first woman and first African president of the International Olympic Committee, making a groundbreaking moment. A trailblazer both in and out of the pool, the seven-time Olympic medalist is bringing her leadership, experience and passion for the athlete advancement to one of the most influential roles in global sports. I mean, come on, like, how great is this? Because the truth is, is that we all know that the Olympic Committee needs to make sure that it knows what it's doing with these athletes. And I think it's so great that a female athlete, a female Olympian, and the first, 131 years, it's really annoying, but also yay, we did it. It's happened. I mean, we got to celebrate it. And I'm excited to see what Kirsty brings to the Olympics, because I actually do really love the Olympics, and I want to make sure they stay amazing for all that in them. Lesley Logan 2:02  All right, your win. This is from one of our longtime Agency members. Her name is Nancy Brest and we have been so excited with what she's doing. So she said today, I have my first coaching client in a new revenue stream. I'm setting up language scripts to make the conversion from discussion to invitation to work together and offer. Fuck yeah. Way to go, Nancy. Whenever we start a new revenue stream or whenever we start something new, can be really hard. It's like easy to procrastinate. Way to go, way to not do that. And also, you have your first coaching client already. So, way to go. I'm super excited for you. I'm really, really, really thrilled. So thank you, Nancy, for sharing that with us. Lesley Logan 2:39  I'm gonna share a win from Katelyn Elser. I launched a six-week program in January as a test, and all of them converted into continuous subscription clients. I signed a lease for a studio. It's my dream to open a brick and mortar, and this has definitely happened faster than expected. Katelyn, you're a badass. I mean, usually the studio stuff does often happen a little faster than we expect, but you're ready, and you're not doing it like as a guest. So throwing things at a wall, see what sticks, you're doing it so intelligently, and it's been really fun to see what you're doing. So thank you, ladies for sharing your wins with us. Lesley Logan 3:10  I'm going to share this win. I got an email from someone who attended my workshops at the Pilates On Tour in Denver at Balanced Body's event, and I'm not going to share all of the email because some of it is personal and stuff like that for us, but I've never had someone just like, send me a bullet-pointed list of like, the things that they loved about my workshops. But I'm calling this a win because what you're about to hear is exactly what I've always wanted for my events. And so to have someone put into words and say this, I had to celebrate this. So this from Sophia, she said you really create a safe space for people to ask questions and speak up, make them feel important and valued. You have an incredible depth of knowledge about Pilates, people, business. I had no idea what a resource you were, and I'm so glad I know now. You are confident teaching six bodies you've never seen with 30 people watching while you flow and adjust their movement. You are brave. You don't look down on people because of their training or their knowledge. And things turned a different way than you expected and how you handled it was brilliant. This industry is full of snobs and judgmental people, and I was really impressed you were not either of those things. You build people up instead of tearing them down. You have great information. I love learning about Jay Grimes and what he said and did, and I appreciate hearing your ideas on running a business. And so thank you for all you shared this past weekend. I don't know if you do this, but if you're ever in an industry where you could get feedback from people, and you get good feedback, I hope that you take some time to receive it, right? It'd be so easy, on the same day, I got all this. I also had some customer service emails where people somehow bought too many of the exact same thing. I could have been all consumed by that, and instead, I actually was like, this, this is, this is what I should be consumed by, because this is what I've always wanted people to experience from my workshops and a bunch of other things, of course. And you don't always know that the thing you're doing is working. And so, Sophia, thank you for being part of my win. I'm also excited to see what you do at your growth and your changes in your business. So that's super exciting. Lesley Logan 5:10  Okay, so now you do a mantra. I hope you like, take, like, do you, do you actually receive compliments? Well, if not, I want you to try that this week, and then I want you to celebrate it as a win. Let me know. All right, so our mantra for the weekend, I break all spells that keep me asleep to my own magic. I break all spells that keep me asleep to my own magic. I break all spells that keep me asleep to my own magic. Way to go, babe. Be It babe, thank you so much. We are well into the five hundreds, and we are midway through Q2 and I know there's a lot going on. I really love that you take the time to listen to all of our episodes, and that you share your wins with us, and you share this podcast with a friend. So until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 5:56  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 6:38  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 6:43  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 6:48  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 6:55  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 6:58  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Lesley and Brad dive into an inspiring conversation with midlife health and fitness expert Heike Yates. They explore how to reignite your passions, overcome self-imposed limitations, and take action toward a fulfilling life. Learn how to stop over-researching and start doing, embrace change, and reclaim control over your future.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:Why midlife is the perfect time to rediscover what truly excites you.The importance of taking action instead of over-researching new interests.How to recognize and break free from limiting beliefs that hold you back.Using journaling as a tool to uncover your true desires and goals.How embracing failure can actually be the key to success.The power of surrounding yourself with the right people to support your growth.Why dimming your light for others is holding you back from your full potential.Episode References/Links:Ep. 472: Traci Peterson - https://beitpod.com/tracipetersonOne Voice L.A. - https://onevoice-la.orgIndivisible - https://indivisible.orgCambodia October 2025 Retreat Waitlist - https://crowsnestretreats.com Spring Pilates Training - https://opc.me/eventsPilates Studio Growth Accelerator - https://prfit.biz/acceleratorAccessories Flashcards Waitlist - https://opc.me/flashcardwaitlist If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox.DEALS! DEALS! DEALS! DEALS!Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSoxBe in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy Webinar Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable Pilates Follow Us on Social Media:InstagramThe Be It Till You See It Podcast YouTube channelFacebookLinkedInThe OPC YouTube Channel Episode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  We start to go, I'm gonna research these different hobbies. I'm gonna try. And then we get overwhelmed in the researching of things, and not the doing of things. You're not gonna know if you like something. Just go do it. So just go, just jump in and go do it. Lesley Logan 0:13  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:55  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the revitalizing convo I had with Heike Yates in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened tothis interview, you should pause. Go listen to that one, or listen to this one, then listen to that one. Binge listen. They're so fun to listen to. Brad Crowell 1:11  Binge in.Lesley Logan 1:11  Yeah. Today is February 20th 2025 and it's World Day of Social Justice. World Day of Social Justice is observed annually on February 20th. Internationally, the world is plagued with unfortunate issues that prohibit millions of individuals from living a fair life. Many of the world's population, through no fault of their own, are deprived of basic facilities, such as homes, jobs, healthcare, education, nutrition, and more. It must be the responsibility of the privileged to ensure that we can create a just world where social justice is a norm. How can we contribute to a social justice around the world from where we live? So you know what loves? I think that if you listen to this podcast, you're similar to me and Brad, and you are aware of all the shit that is going on. And there's.Brad Crowell 1:53  Lots of it. Lesley Logan 1:54  Fuck ton of it. And it can feel overwhelming, and it could be hard not to know what to do. And then it can feel like, if you're championing one thing, that you're leaving other people behind. And I think it's one really important to note that it's absolutely okay if you care about one thing, and you can still have feeling and sadness and wish for something different somewhere else, but you can also make a massive change on one area and if you don't have the money to donate to the help of that, then your education and your expertise can also be donated. Your time can be donated. You can leverage the networks that you have, maybe work for a company, and you can ask them to do their next donation drive for something that you care about. There's change you can make. There is, gosh, one of my clients today was telling me that there's a charity organizational website where you can actually see what different charities are doing and see how they rank, as far as like, where their money goes. Brad Crowell 2:49  That's cool. Lesley Logan 2:49  And that is a great way to, if you don't have a lot of money to give to in justices to make sure that what you have can go the furthest. We, Brad and I, did a fundraiser for those who lost their jobs due to the wildfires in Los Angeles. And I know that's not the world and justice, but it's something that's pretty terrible for those people going through it. And the charity that we worked with, One Voice LA, 100% of your donations go to those who need it. You can actually go to onevoice-la I'm sure it's dot org. Brad Crowell 3:18  onevoice-la.orgLesley Logan 3:20  Yeah. So you can go there, but there's definitely websites that you can use to research charities you're thinking of donating to, your time to, money to or leverage. And so I highly recommend that, because I also know that you have a whole life to live, and we can't save people without making sure that you are also taking care of you.Brad Crowell 3:41  I just pulled up two organizations that help measure charities. (inaudible) One is called Charity Navigator. Lesley Logan 3:46  That's exactly what my artist is talking about. Shout out to Meredith Bender. Hi, babe. Brad Crowell 3:49  The other one is called up Metrics, where you can measure and maximize your nonprofits impact. So I think this one's actually not this one might be like the business itself is trying to measure its own impact, whereas Charity Navigator, it sounds like we assess the direct impact of a charity's program relative to the cost required to run it to help donors identify high impact charities. So, you know, like the age-old story of, oh, you get these things in the mail every year for the annual Turkey drive, and then you write them a check for 50 bucks, and they take 45 of it to run the company and get $5 to the thing. Hopefully there are no organizations that do that, but obviously there are. So, Charity Navigator. Interesting. Lesley Logan 4:27  So use that on this World Day of Social Justice. And also please remember that it is really hard to herd kittens and so there's a lot going on. Educate yourself. Stay educated, stay informed. But also give yourself permission to focus on one thing that you want to change. And also, call your congress person if you live in the United States. Brad Crowell 4:31  It's not only about money. It's not only about donating to charity. Social justice is also political, and it's about championing those who can't champion themselves, right? I mean to me, literally, goes all the way back to what my parents taught me about the kids in the playground. Why are people picking on other kids? Because they feel like they can for some reason, and standing up against bullies is one of the best possible ways to advocate on behalf of others. And we obviously have a lot of bullies happening in politics in the United States. Lesley Logan 5:20  There's bullies all over the world. Brad Crowell 5:22  And all over the world. Lesley Logan 5:23  And they only have the room to grow because we let them. So call your congress person. You can call them every day. Did you know that? Brad Crowell 5:31  You can call them every day. Lesley Logan 5:32  People do. Also get involved in your local things, because apparently not many people go to like local city council meetings. And so the loud assholes, the bullies win because there's no one else there. Indivisible.org. They send a lot of emails, not gonna lie. Brad Crowell 5:47  Indivisible.org. Lesley Logan 5:47  Yeah, indivisible. And you can find the city near you, and then they will help you see all the different groups you can join that are about the causes that you care about.Brad Crowell 5:56  I just signed up for their newsletter about my zip code. Lesley Logan 5:58  Yeah, oh. Brad Crowell 6:00  indivisible.orgLesley Logan 6:00  That's great. I didn't find that option, and now I'm just getting a lot of emails. Brad Crowell 6:04  Right on the homepage. Lesley Logan 6:05  So there you go. So this is why we need Brad. Okay, let's go through this really quick. We are, while you're listening to this, we are in Cambodia, and you can join us in October, because it's for sure too late now, we're already here.Brad Crowell 6:17  It's for sure too late, unless you live in Cambodia. Then come on over. Lesley Logan 6:20  Yeah, come on over. Come say hi. So go to crowsnestretreats.com to sign up for our October retreat. We really want you there. It's beautiful. It's amazing. We spend a week together at our home and it's a true retreat. Really special. Brad Crowell 6:32  Yeah. It's magic. Lesley Logan 6:33  When we come back, we'll be heading over to POT in Denver. Brad Crowell 6:36  Yeah, we're gonna drive through Utah, Arizona and Colorado to get there. Not sure about Arizona. We might go the north part. Lesley Logan 6:42  Yeah, we're not doing any pop ups, don't, so we're on vacation. Brad Crowell 6:45  Yeah, no pop ups but we are, we're gonna drive and we're going to be there in the area for the whole event. We're excited about it. It's gonna be awesome. Lesley Logan 6:52  I've got some great workshops at it. So you can definitely still sign up. Brad Crowell 6:55  I'll be hanging out the merch booth. Lesley Logan 6:56  I know that they were almost sold out the last time I got a numbers count. So don't wait. Brad Crowell 7:00  Crazy, right?Lesley Logan 7:01  Then in April 27th through May 3rd, we have spring training, spring Pilates training, you guys. Brad Crowell 7:07  That's right from OPC. Go to opc.me/events. That will put you on the waitlist to find out about spring training. What is it going to be? Really quick. Go.Lesley Logan 7:16  Oh, it's all the OPC teachers and me teaching mat, reformer, a tower and a Wunda chair. You'll be able to buy a mat only ticket or an equipment plus mat ticket. So if you don't have access to the equipment, there'll be plenty of classes for you on just the mat. There are going to be all different levels, all different body types. And we're focused on one theme, and to find out what that theme is you got to go to opc.me/events and sign up, because I got to break the news to them first. Can't, that's worth, that's what we said. Brad Crowell 7:40  All right, if you are taking money to teach a client, if you are personally getting paid by the client, then you run your own business. Congratulations. Or if you have a home studio or a brick and mortar, I want you to come join me for a free webinar called the growth accelerator. We're gonna cover three big secrets that Lesley and I have put together after coaching more than 2500 businesses just like yours over the past seven years with our agency coaching program. Come join me for this webinar, prfit.biz/accelerator. That's prfit.biz or profit without the O slash accelerator, and join me for free. Finally, last up, we have the Accessories Deck, the Accessories Flash Card Deck with OPC. It is the sixth and final deck. We are so close to being done. I know that the first draft is done. It's being reviewed right now. Lesley Logan 8:27  This is the first Cambodia trip in years that I'm not writing a flash card on. Brad Crowell 8:31  That's so crazy. Lesley Logan 8:32  I know. What am I doing with my time? You guys. Brad Crowell 8:35  Oh, we're gonna do other things with your time. Lesley Logan 8:36  I have other things to write. I have blogs to write. I have a bot to edit. There's plenty for me to do.Brad Crowell 8:43  There's plenty to do but that's not what we're talking about. For the Accessories Deck. You know, we already did the photo shoot. It's looking really good. Lesley and I literally got a chance to meet the people who produce our flash cards when we were on tour. Lesley Logan 8:55  That was so cool. Brad Crowell 8:56  It was really lovely. We didn't actually get a chance to film anything because the entire place was closed for the holidays. So next time, I don't know if we'll ever be there when we're not there for the holidays, but one day, I would like to actually go see the operations. Let their team show us all these crazy machines that they use to make these flash cards. I'm fascinated by the process. Anyway, we're stoked to produce the sixth deck with them as well. We'll be dropping the presale really soon. So go to opc.me/flashcardwaitlist opc.me/flashcardwaitlist. Get yourself on the wait list. You will be the only people getting a 30% off offer on this final deck. So don't wait on that. Before we move on. We had a question.Lesley Logan 9:37  From YouTube. Brad Crowell 9:38  Okay, jasminesaif183 says hi, Lesley, would you say you teach classical Pilates, and if we wanted to learn the real Pilates, is there a playlist we can follow on your channel?Lesley Logan 9:52  Yeah, so I do teach classical Pilates. That's what I would consider I teach, and anything on my channel is classical. So there's no need to make a playlist, because everything is what I will learn from Jay Grimes, who studied with Joe Pilates, what I learned from the Taylor sisters who studied with Romana. So I am a classical teacher, and so you're good to go with anything there. We do have playlists that are like the mat or by equipment, but I'm not gonna create a playlist that's just because that would be the whole YouTube channel. Brad Crowell 10:24  Yeah, yeah. So. Lesley Logan 10:26  I also just want to say, in case, because she wrote real Pilates in here.Brad Crowell 10:29  I was gonna ask you to address that. Lesley Logan 10:31  I refuse to get involved in a conversation about what's real Pilates and what's not real Pilates. I won't do that because.Brad Crowell 10:38  Unless it's not Pilates in the least. Lesley Logan 10:40  Unless it's not Pilates in the least. Like a Megaformer. There might be some moves that are Pilates esque, but you I can't from their website 10 years ago. I cannot teach Pilates moves on a Megaformer and they cannot teach their moves on a regular reformer. It was from. Brad Crowell 10:53  That's clearly not Pilates. Lesley Logan 10:55  Yeah. So, so that being said, they might be telling people that's what they're doing. They might be telling their teachers or their trainers that's what they're doing. And I don't ever want to be the person who busts anyone's bubbles. So here's the deal. There's a lot of different Pilates styles out there, and most of them are all real Pilates. Now I teach what Joseph Pilates created with his intentions. Brad Crowell 11:14  From the book that he wrote. Lesley Logan 11:15  Yeah, from his book and from his teachings of his client, and I do the best I can to uphold what that purpose is. And if you were trained in a different way and you want to learn what I'm doing, great if you're training a different way and you don't want to learn the way I'm doing it, great. This world is a place where you get to. Brad Crowell 11:32  You do you, baby.Lesley Logan 11:33  You do you and you don't even have to explain it to me. I have no judgment, but I think it's really important to not get bogged down by the semantics of it, but there are styles, just like in yoga, there's yoga styles, and so if you find a style you like, keep going. Brad Crowell 11:48  Yeah, I agree. All right, y'all. Stick around we'll be right back. We're gonna dig into this fantastic convo that Lesley had with Heike Yates. We'll be right back. Brad Crowell 11:57  Okay, welcome back. Now, let's talk about Heike Yates. Heike Yates is a midlife health and fitness expert with over 35 years of experience, and she's the host of the pursue your spark podcast with a rich background as a seasoned Pilates coach and former Ironman triathlete, Heike is dedicated to helping women in midlife build strength, confidence in health. Through her podcast and coaching, she empowers women to embrace new possibilities, overcome challenges and lead vibrant, fulfilling lives, and she's working on a book and everything. It was really fascinating to listen to her share her story about how she was not raised in a society that intentionally worked out, meaning, I'm gonna block off one hour and go work out. Because where she was raised in Germany, your life was a workout. You were walking everywhere. You were hiking up and down mountains. You were doing all this stuff, because that's she you did. And then she said, when she got pregnant, her body obviously went through a dramatic change, and she gained 50 pounds, and then had no idea how to lose that. And so that is what took her down this path. And I feel like there's a generational thing there, too, for sure, she got into all the different things, and she went down all these different modalities over the decades, which I thought was really amazing.Lesley Logan 13:13  Yeah, I also like that she's really inspired to help women find their spark again. So it's not just about the movement of it, which I think for women in midlife, I don't know why it feels old. It feels like we're making it worse. Brad Crowell 13:25  Well, I think the reason. Lesley Logan 13:26  Because I'm 42. I'm not at midlife, when's midlife?Brad Crowell 13:29  Well, I think the reason that she's not saying pre post menopause is because it pigeon holes her into talking only about menopause. And you know, when she was talking about her book, she said, yes, some of the publishers were coming to me and saying, like, great, you're a menopause author, and she's like, but I'm not, you know, so I think she's using midlife to encompass a little bit of a wider audience there.Lesley Logan 13:30  Yeah. So I really was drawn to more what she was talking about women in midlife and having lost touch with their true desires. I also think because, again, you brought up generations, I think that my friends today have had more people tell them to know what their goals are and what they want outside of being a parent. And I think 10 plus years women older than us, like it was, you're a mom, that's what you did, and it was really weird if you were more than that, if you did anything else. So I do think that it's necessary to talk with those women about how to figure out that it's because also our desires change, and so you might have known what they were before, but then life happens. You go through and the things that brought you joy don't bring your joy the same way they do, and you have to have new desires, right? So I really want to say that she encouraged listeners to look not at what you can't do, but what possibilities are there. Focus on what is possible. You know, we talk about that all the time at OPC, so you know, I'm gonna love that Brad Crowell 13:50  Sure. Lesley Logan 13:52  She also said, if you don't try anything, you will never find what it is that lights you up. Brad Crowell 14:38  So take messy action. Lesley Logan 14:45  Yeah and I thought that was fun, because I think we start to go, I gotta research these different hobbies. I'm gonna try. And then we get overwhelmed in the researching of things, and not the doing of things. You're not gonna know if you like something. Let's just go do it. So just go, just jump in and go do it.Brad Crowell 15:00  Yeah. And one thing I found like a through line, and she didn't explicitly say this, but she did explicitly say, when you're trying to understand your goals, don't listen to what other people tell you that your goals should be. You need to find your goals yourself. And she kind of said it and then brought it back up again later on in the conversation. And so, you know, she encouraged honesty about our own desires, saying, when we look at ourselves, we've got to be honest about what we want, right? And then you asked, hey, what if you don't know what you want? Because you were talking about the retreat in Cambodia where you're like, hey, what does a year from now look like? And then people got they found that as a roadblock. They couldn't do the exercise because, like, I don't know what I want to be in a year, right? And so you asked her, What happens if you hit that hurdle yourself? And she said, You need to start journaling and paying attention to the desires that you have during your journaling. But ultimately, that still lends itself directly back to knowing your goals, your desires, not letting other people define your goals for you. I thought that was really important. I also think it's hard. I think it's really hard, especially when we feel boxed in by the life that we have today. Maybe your goal was something that is just literally not even possible because you have a job that keeps you in one place all the time, and you can't travel, you can't leave, or, I don't know, you have young kids that demand a lot of time, and now you have to wait to accomplish your goal. So I think that it's hard to decide what our goals can be, that we're willing to let ourselves pursue without knowing that it will fail because of the boxes that we live in, right?Lesley Logan 16:38  Yeah. I also think that we if we fail, then it wasn't worth doing, or we weren't deserving of it, or whatever and it's like.Brad Crowell 16:43  Then we feel guilty because we let ourselves down or something. Lesley Logan 16:46  I mean, how many times did someone fill the light bulb? A lot. And now if we fucking stop, we wouldn't have had light as soon as we did. So.Brad Crowell 16:55  Yeah and she did talk about failure, too. She said it's not failure. It's just, you know, it's the next step. It's the next baby step. She pointed out that many women feel stuck. They're either waiting for an answer to appear from the universe, or they're scared to fail, right? And her advice was, don't sit there frozen. Take action. Don't wait. It's okay to fail because we never actually do. It's something. We try something, we might not like it and then it's okay to change and shift your goal and reclaim control of your life. So she said, take action, and that's going to be the thing that moves you forward. And you know how much we're all about messy action. So, yeah. I think she's just also very kind. Lesley Logan 17:34  Yeah, she's got spunk to her. I really like it. Brad Crowell 17:37  Yeah, I think as a coach, she's just very warm, you know, all around as good vibes. All right, well stick around, because we do have some,Be It Action Items from Heike. We're going to find out about those in just a second. Brad Crowell 17:49  All right, so finally, let's talk about those Be It Action Items. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Heike Yates? To find what lights you up, start journaling. I did briefly mention this before. She said write down your thoughts. Start thinking about the things that maybe you're envying your friends for which I thought that's interesting. Normally, I was raised where, like, don't be jealous, don't feel envy. And she's actually saying not that you should tap into that and lean into that, but understand what's happening. Notice that. What is it that you're feeling that about? Write it down and then say, I want what she has, whatever that is, and give yourself the permission to say, to be honest, I want that. Look around for inspiration. Ask yourself, what are my friends doing? What do they do? Try activities that they enjoy or explore something new for yourself. She said, even if you don't know what you want, trying anything helps you discover what lights you up and what you don't like, which helps you narrow down what you do. Yeah.Lesley Logan 18:47  Yeah. I love she had so many great Be It Action Items, and so I also want to highlight that she said stop dimming your light and move on and enjoy life. And I love this, because often, as women, we were raised, you're too loud, you're too bossy, you're too this. We talked about this with Tracy Peterson, like you're too bossy, you're too this, you're too, like, all these things that actually people telling you that it's like a little thing where they're saying, turn your light down. It's too much. And actually, Heike is saying it's bold to keep your light on, move on and enjoy your life. And I think that that is the best thing we can do, because we're not going to keep everyone with us all the time. We're just not. And so dimming your light to stay in the box that other people want you in, it'd be a real shame, and that is not what you're trying to do when you're trying to be it till you see it. I'm Lesley Logan. Brad Crowell 19:32  And I'm Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 19:33  Please make sure you share your takeaways with Heike, the Be It Pod. Share this with a friend who needs to hear it. Share this with one of your midlife friends who needs to hear someone kind telling them things that might feel very familiar to them, and helping them enjoy their life more and until next time, Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 19:46  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 19:48  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 20:30  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 20:35  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 20:40  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 20:47  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 20:50  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

It's the end of the month and that means it's time to catch up on the latest news from Acadiana. Christiaan Mader, founder and editor of The Current tells us how the Lafayette area fared with last week's snow, and about an upcoming special election.A once-in-a-lifetime snowstorm hit the South last week, breaking snowfall records dating back to 1895. Flights were canceled, schools were closed and many Louisianans engaged in their first-ever snowball fights or made their first snowmen!But what does this rare blizzard say about our climate? State climatologist Jay Grimes explains how the historic snowfall affected agriculture and wildlife. This Saturday, ballet will meet flamenco for a reimagination of the classic opera Carmen. The New Orleans Ballet Association is presenting the work in conjunction with Ballet Hispanico, and the performance will celebrate the 150th anniversary of the opera. Ballet Hispanico's artistic director Eduardo Vilaro joins us for more.___Today's episode of Louisiana Considered was hosted by Karen Henderson. Our managing producer is Alana Schreiber. We receive production and technical support from Garrett Pittman, Adam Vos and our assistant producer, Aubry Procell. You can listen to Louisiana Considered Monday through Friday at noon and 7 p.m. It's available on Spotify, Google Play and wherever you get your podcasts. Louisiana Considered wants to hear from you! Please fill out our pitch line to let us know what kinds of story ideas you have for our show. And while you're at it, fill out our listener survey! We want to keep bringing you the kinds of conversations you'd like to listen to.Louisiana Considered is made possible with support from our listeners. Thank you!

OOIDA recently held a “fireside chat” to educate truckers on broker transparency. We bring you some of what was said at that event. Also, Jay Grimes goes over some of the basics of the broker transparency proposal, as well as what truckers can do. Then, a new year can sometimes bring new mental health challenges. We speak with therapist Buck Black about dealing with those. And truckers across the nation have been affected by predatory towing practices. Now, Missouri is taking another crack at dealing with the problem. 0:00 – OOIDA spells out what transparency proposal means 09:46 – Analysis: Explaining the broker transparency rulemaking 24:24 – Taking care of your mental health in the new year 39:23 – Missouri takes another crack at predatory towing

Never underestimate the power of the mind-body connection. In this episode, Lesley and Brad dive into the conversation with Dr. Andrew Fix to explore how shifting your mindset around pain and truly tuning in to your body can transform your well-being. You'll learn actionable steps for improving sleep, managing pain, and building a healthier, more balanced life. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:How embracing a positive mindset can support pain recovery.Why getting quality sleep is crucial for relieving chronic pain.When surgery might be necessary to improve your quality of life.The importance of trusting your intuition when making health decisions.Episode References/Links:Cambodia February 2025 RetreatFlashcards WaitlistPilates Studio Growth AcceleratorOPC Winter TourPhysio Room WebsiteDr. Andrew Fix InstagramPhysio Room InstagramThe Code: A Guide to Health and Human PerformanceBreaking Down Advanced ExercisesBottoms Up WorkshopHeadstand Tutorial If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. DEALS! DEALS! DEALS! DEALS!Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox Be in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy Webinar Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable Pilates Follow Us on Social Media:InstagramThe Be It Till You See It Podcast YouTube channelFacebookLinkedInThe OPC YouTube Channel Episode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  We're not saying, you guys, that all of your pain is thought into your body or told into your body like obviously, real accidents, injuries have happened, but you have to just be mindful of how you're talking about yourself, because your body is listening. Lesley Logan 0:14  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.  Lesley Logan 0:56  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the rehabilitating convo I had with Dr. Andrew Fix in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that interview, you can listen to it after you listen to this one, because we're going to tell you some really fun stuff. And then you can go listen to that one and you can learn some really fun stuff. Lesley Logan 1:12  So today is October 17th 2024 and it is National Spirit Day. Let's talk about this day, you guys. I really liked this one. There's actually, if you look at today.com or whatever, nationaltoday.com there's a bunch of them we could have chosen, but this one I like, because Spirit Day is an annual observance that takes place on the third Thursday in October, October 17th this year. This day aims to create awareness for the bullying harassment that the LGBTQ community faces. Millions of people worldwide identify as queer, and many more are yet to publicly declare their status. Such a large community of people shouldn't be alienated or marginalized because of their sexual orientation, but the reality, sadly, is that they are. All over the world, LGBTQ youth suffer harassment because of their identity. There's a need for transgender individuals to have more protected rights. Hear, hear. So, that's what today is, getting the awareness out. And so, yeah, yeah, it's National Spirit Day.Brad Crowell 2:09  Yeah. Unfortunately, this has been politicized, because it shouldn't be. It's just about human rights and people being people, and us leaving people alone.Lesley Logan 2:19  I know. And also, like, (inaudible) the amount of people who think that, like, children are just going to school and then coming out as trans, I would like, ask people if you are really, if you think that all these people are just now, like, it's just a preponderance of people as trans, I would want you to, like, just do a little analysis on that. And also, I think it's really cool that we live in a world where in some place it is safe for people to explore who they are and share that. We also live in a world where it is really unsafe and it shouldn't even be political. Your sexual orientation should never be politicized. Anyways, I'm getting frustrated. I'm sad for those people. So anyways, if you live in a place where you can vote for people who support people's rights, I would highly recommend you do that, so go do that. And currently we are on vacation. So while we're on vacation from our amazing retreat, if you want to come on that amazing retreat, this is kind of like the last hurrah. Well, that's, apparently not. We actually had someone sign up for our sold out retreat three weeks before we left, because my mom wanted to bring her friend. And so we made, we moved mountains. Brad Crowell 3:22  I was gonna say we did. We did make an exception. That wasn't the plan. Lesley Logan 3:25  But you can, apparently, you, just so you know, you can be one of those people who waits the last minute. I wouldn't recommend it. So I would snag your spot now at crowsnestretreats.com, to join us in February.Brad Crowell 3:35  Yeah, we're gonna be going to back to Cambodia, to our favorite place in the world, Siem Reap, where we get a chance to take you to our house. We have a 12-bedroom apartment complex there, you come stay at our place, practice Pilates during the week, then we go on Temple tours, then we have some amazing food. We meet some incredible people. We explore the countryside. We explore the city. It is just an amazing experience to see another place in a group, where you kind of get a little bit of adventure, but you still feel like you're safe and with a group and everything like that. The one last thing I first landed in Cambodia, we got off the plane, like, 10 o'clock at night. It was super, super dark, and I was getting sick. I was like, on my I had caught something where I was, like, having a runny nose, and I wasn't feeling great, and I was so excited to go, but I was also not feeling well, and Lesley looks around, smells the charcoal in the air because people were cooking dinner, and she says my soul is home. And I was like, how do you know your damn soul is home you haven't seen anything yet. Lesley Logan 3:39  It's dark and it's crazy and it's chaos. And I was like, it is, we're gonna live here, and we had seen nothing or eat nothing. So that was really brave of me, but we really loved it. And so you get to come to our house. Brad Crowell 4:45  Yeah, you should come with us and hang out, go to crowsnestretreats.com, crowsnestretreats.com. Next up.Lesley Logan 4:52  Then after I come back, I go and I'm gonna stay in LA to get ready for the accessories deck shoot. So that is the sixth deck in the series. For the flashcards. Brad Crowell 5:03  Flashcards (inaudible) talking about deck here. Lesley Logan 5:05  You're not reading my mind, everyone? You're not like you're not picturing what I'm thinking about? Also, because I just got to finally announce that the mat deck 2.0 has shipped. While you're listening to this, it has shipped over a month ago. So there's that. Anyways, we're wrapping up this whole project and this product, and so we're doing the photo shoot, and all of those on the waitlist will get the presale opportunity. When is that going to be? I can't tell you in this moment, but it's probably somewhere around Q2 so you'll want to go to opc.me/flashcardwait list, opc.me/flashcardwaitlist. All right, Brad, tell them about what's next for you.Brad Crowell 5:42  All right, so I've been hosting a webinar called the Pilates Studio Growth Accelerator. So if you are a fitness business owner out there and you have, you're bringing people to your home for a home studio, or maybe you rent a small boutique space, or maybe you have a team. This webinar is for you. Okay, what are we going to talk about? We're going to talk about, how do you double your income over the next 12 months? Right? That's a crazy thing to even think about. But ultimately, we all know that money is involved in our, you know, running our own business here, and we work our asses off, and we barely are making ends meet, and it's time for us to actually make the profit that we need, so that we can actually take a deep breath and enjoy what we're doing, because I know how stressful it is to barely be keeping our heads above water. We did it for many, many years, until we got coaching. And then when we got coaching, everything changed dramatically. And so this webinar is going to share with you three big secrets that Lesley and I have determined, after we have coached now more than 2000 clients of our own businesses, just like yours, small businesses, people just getting started, all the way up to people with million dollar studios. And we just had a lot of experience doing it, and we want to share that experience with you. So come join me for free. prfit.biz/accelerator, that's profit without -the O dot B-I Z slash accelerator, and come join me. Yeah. Lesley Logan 5:48  Yeah and then come hang out with us IRL, we're going, gosh, we're gonna have the biggest tour ever, our winter tour. At this moment, it's possible we've even announced the date, because I don't know. We're trying to do it in October. That's our goal. Brad Crowell 7:18  Yeah. Dates will definitely be available. So yeah, we're going on tour, y'all. We're leaving in December the sixth, and we'll be coming back more than a month later. We're going to be doing over 8000 miles drive around the country. We're going to basically stick through 40 as we go across the south till we hit North Carolina. Then we're going to go all up to Maine, then all the way down the east coast to Miami, and then we're going to come back through Texas, and we're going to hit Phoenix on the way home. So if any of that sounds like you're remotely close, or going to be close, or going to be near family that's close, go to opc.me/tour. We'd love to meet you in person and hang out and do Pilates and, you know, just kick it. It is an incredible opportunity to get to meet our pups. That's going to be a blast. Lesley Logan 7:59  Yeah, I'm really excited for all the places that we're going to, the studios we're finally going to see. I mean, it's just going to be wonderful. So thank you all who always come out on our tour. Oh my gosh. One of the, you know how we were in Korea, I was supposed to, we were talking about someone who was like, I (inaudible) a workshop in Korea. Well, someone lived in Canada. Well, someone now lives in the DC area. And I was like, we're going to see you. She's like, oh my God. We're finally gonna meet three countries later. We're doing it. We're doing it. All right, well, opc.me/tour. Go get your tickets because, believe it or not, winter tours sell out really fast because people make plans early. So there you go. before you get into Andrew's amazing notes for all of us, let's talk about the audience question. Brad Crowell 8:40  Yeah. JoannPilates on Instagram asked, "Hi Lesley, I hear that you are good in teaching headstand on the reformer. Do you teach via zoom?"Lesley Logan 8:48  I know we posted my headstand and now I do headstand by myself, without you. Brad Crowell 8:52  Yeah, no, I'm impressed. Lesley Logan 8:54  I know. And actually everyone is, too. So I know. Brad Crowell 8:56  That everyone is impressed or everyone is doing headstand? Lesley Logan 8:58  No, they're impressed. But, (inaudible) someone else did it, someone else tagged me in their headstands journey. And so am I good at teaching headstand? I am really good at teaching people connections that they need. So if headstand is the goal, great, but also, if you're going, what is headstand in Pilates? Like, I really am so grateful that Jay Grimes and all the teachers that he taught who have been in my life have helped me understand how to, like, build someone up to an exercise versus take an exercise down to a client. Yeah, sure. And so that's what I teach people at eLevate, which is my mentorship program. So that's really where I can help you with the headstand, because one session I could probably give you some homework, but if you're not ready for headstand, we're not doing headstand. I'm not going to bring an exercise down to you. I'm going to bring you up to an exercise. So I would need to see you move and then go, are you even ready for this? Is it an exercise that's right for you? It's also okay for it actually not to be right for you. You guys like, it's really okay for you to go, that's, that exercise is not right for me. Like, tendon stretch in the reformer if you've got tight hamstrings. We're not doing that today. We got to work on opening those hamstrings up and finding more strength, and (inaudible).Brad Crowell 10:03  That takes, like, a week, right? Yeah, yeah.Lesley Logan 10:05  Yeah, like, a thousand weeks, you know? So, so am I good at it? And do I teach on Zoom? I teach eLevate via zoom, and you can come in person. Do I teach private clients on Zoom? It's rare that someone outside of my eLevate group gets a Zoom call. That doesn't mean you won't. Doesn't mean you won't, but I'm just telling you like, I don't got a lot of hours in the day to teach people, but my eLevators always get an opportunity to work with me, either privately or in a group. 2025 eLevate is sold out. So.Brad Crowell 10:35  It is, I know, that's insane. Lesley Logan 10:37  So you can get on the waitlist or you can grab 2026. All that being said, I also do have a workshop called Bottoms Up. And while I don't break down headstand in that workshop on OPC, it absolutely will help you with the idea of how to break down this exercise. And I do have the headstand tutorials up on YouTube. It's free. (inaudible) flashcards. Brad Crowell 10:57  We also have breaking down advanced exercises. Lesley Logan 10:59  Guide, which is free. Brad Crowell 11:00  Yeah. So we'll put the links to all three of those in the show notes. Lesley Logan 11:05  But Joann, if you and a bunch of people want to explore this, obviously, I don't want you to wait till 2026, let's talk. But also, please ask yourself, everyone, before you're like, oh my God, look at that party trick. You gotta ready yourself for that party trick. So you've got to be obsessed with the foundations of Pilates. If you really think you're advanced, then a beginner class should feel hard, because you have, you are actually bringing all of your body to those beginner exercises. Because I actually would say that there is no such thing as beginner exercise. There are exercises that beginners can do. Brad Crowell 11:37  I mean, there's also variations on the headstand, so some of them are really intense. Lesley Logan 11:41  Yes, today, I incorporated, I actually faced I did the facing up today. I took it out of my practice for about six months, and I showed it to my teacher, and he's like, do this. And I did what he said, and it was fucking 10 times better. It all was. It's like focusing my eyes was insane. But when I took it out six months ago, I was doing things to build it back up into my practice. I got to build myself up to it. So, some exercises I don't do because I'm not ready for him yet, or, or like my body is on a pause on that, you know. So it's okay for that. All right, let's talk about Andrew Fix.Brad Crowell 12:18  All right. Now, let's talk about Dr. Andrew Fix. Dr. Fix is a doctor of physical therapy and an expert in running and lifting-related injuries. He helps run a performance-based physical therapy practice that focuses on helping clients recover from pain and get back to the activities they love through his method, his process of the three R's, reset, restore and reload. Andrew also co-hosts The Code: A guide to Health and Human Performance Podcast where he discusses optimizing health through sleep, nutrition and movement. Yeah, really cool. It's exciting that he took a chance, moved across the country and opened his own business. We're all about that. Lesley Logan 12:57  Yeah, I know. I just think that's what a, that's a big deal. It's not easy. You know, one of the things I think about is like, people like, oh, I can't do that here. And I'm like, why are you there? When people fight us on the limitations of doing their business where they are, I'm just kind of like, but why are you there, then? Like, are you married to that place? Because you can rent your home out now, it's so much easier to relocate than it ever once was. And people need Pilates everywhere. So I'm just saying, if you're frustrated where you are, you could be like, Andrew, you just move. Lesley Logan 13:26  So one of the things I really like that we talked about is the mind is such a powerful tool as he said. So he said, If you keep telling yourself, I'm the person with the bad back, or I'm this, you are actually reinforcing it. And this is so true, because you guys, when I study mindset, the thing about your mind is it actually is listening to you and you really don't want your mind to go on its own thing. That would be really bad. That would be like.Brad Crowell 13:54  What do you mean on its own thing (inaudible)?Lesley Logan 13:56  So like, if you tell yourself, I have a bad back, you don't let your mind go let me show you how good your back is. You don't want your mind to go rogue on you, because then, like you're you the person, are not in control. You're actually controlling your mind. You're in control of the thoughts you have. I would hate for me to go, uh, I'm the most amazing person in the world and my mind goes, here's 17 reasons you're not. You don't want that as your mind. You don't want, that's not what you want.Brad Crowell 14:17  But that's, I'm so confused. Lesley Logan 14:19  Why? How are you confused? Brad Crowell 14:21  You're saying the opposite of the thing.Lesley Logan 14:23  No. So, he said, the mind is a powerful tool. If you tell yourself, I have a bad back, it reinforces it. And I'm saying it's so true. When I study mindset, there's little science that shows that your brain does not go rogue on you. If you say, I have a bad back, it doesn't say, let me show you how amazing your back is. Brad Crowell 14:39  Okay, all right, you don't want it to be the opposite of what you're thinking it is. Lesley Logan 14:43  Right.Brad Crowell 14:43  Okay, that's why I completely lost this (inaudible). Lesley Logan 14:45  Because that would be, that would not be great if your mind went rogue and did its own thing. You would want to go left and your mind's going, we're going right, like that would be a waste of time. You'd be in an argument with yourself all of the time. So, so we reinforce it. Also, I just studied. Shout out to Mariska Breland. I just studied her. Brad Crowell 15:02  Who?Lesley Logan 15:03  Mariska Breland, Mariska, maybe it's Mariska Breland. Maybe I'm saying Marishka because of Law and Order, her name is Mariska. Anyways, she's amazing. She's lovely. I've met her many times. She's a great teacher. But I was studying, I was watching her workshop on fear in movement. It's called kinesiophobia. Kinesiophobia. It's an actual thing of people who are afraid to move. And the thing is, is, if you're like, oh my god, it hurts when I do that, then you don't do it. So then when you go to do it, it hurts when you do it, because you haven't been doing it. And so we just reinforce ourselves. And so he said, you are always going to have a bad back because that's what you keep telling yourself, and also because of your, because you tell yourself that, then you don't do the things that would actually help your back out. Because you're like, I have a bad back, and so you're not strengthening your core, you're not challenging things. You are just kind of staying in that thing. And he said, to change the narratives, like, I used to have pain, but I'm doing things to improve it, so I can do X, Y and Z in the future, there's actual and because I just dodged this workshop, there is a lot of science in the power of positivity and reframing. I'm not able to do this today. For example, Joann with the headstand. She can't. If she walked away and said, I can't do a headstand, she'll never do a headstand. But if she says, I'm not able to do a headstand yet, and I'm working on doing X, Y and Z, she is preparing her mind for being able to do a headstand. She's telling her mind it's going to be a thing we're gonna have, we're gonna get there. And because it's so positive, and because she's actually proclaiming that these things are there, you're allowing space for your body to feel safe in the practice of getting the thing.Brad Crowell 16:32  Yeah, I can totally relate to this, too. Because when I was younger, my mom told me, oh, we have very limber bodies. And because we have very limber bodies, we just always have back pain. That was her lived experience. She was in a car accident when she was a kid, and for 20-plus years, had really, really challenging back problems, and she was always like the athlete, but was the skinny kid athlete, right? Never, she could be blown over. And the same thing for me when I got on the soccer field, when I got in high school, I was muscled off the ball all the time because I was too skinny. And I was like, I guess this is just how I'm always going to be. And then when I moved to Los Angeles, I slept on the floor because I didn't have the money to buy a $5,000 mattress, so I figured it would be better for my body if I slept on a hard surface, so I slept on the floor. And I told myself that for years, I slept on the floor for four years, and that's because I was like, the floor is better than any shitty bed I'm going to be able to afford, so I'm just going to sleep on the floor. Now, I probably could have slept on a futon, but I didn't. I think it was also a little bit of pride in there, because it's quite a story to tell. But the story I told myself was like, I'm always going to be weak. I'm always going to have this back pain. It didn't even change when I got started doing yoga, until it changed, and all of a sudden I was like, oh, I don't hurt it anymore. This is crazy, right? I didn't even it wasn't like my mindset changed. It was like, my my physical I wanted to do something so much that I actually my body changed after doing it and then I was like, oh, I don't have to be in pain every day. I'm not in pain right now. This is crazy. Lesley Logan 18:09  Yeah and that because, that desire to want something helps people get around the limitations that they have. And by the way. Brad Crowell 18:15  Well, I think you could do it opposite the way I do. I fell in love with the idea of doing yoga before I realized that that would help my back. Lesley Logan 18:22  Yeah, you totally can. And I think we're not saying, you guys, that all of your pain is thought into your body, or told into your body, like, obviously, like, real accidents, injuries have happened, but you have to just be mindful of how you're talking about yourself, because your body is listening.Brad Crowell 18:38  Yeah, yeah, it totally is. Lesley Logan 18:40  All right. What'd you love? Brad Crowell 18:41  All right. So what I really found interesting, intriguing, in fact, because this is not the way that I've always thought about it, is he basically was saying, when it comes to surgery and making decisions that seem like they're going to change everything, which surgery certainly can change everything in a good or a bad way. Often people are told, hey, you can build muscle around this instead of having a surgery, because you don't want to, you know, have the surgery now and then hurt it again, and then have to have another one later, or whatever. And he said he kind of focuses on the quality of life. If the injury that you're having is preventing you from doing the activity that you enjoyed, then he would rather have the surgery twice than wait. You know, preferred addressing the issue when, when it impacts his ability to do the activity he enjoyed. For my sister, she was a semi-pro soccer player. She was like, on the path and like trying to go do that professionally, and she had an ACL tear. That one was pretty clear she can't, literally couldn't walk properly if she didn't have the surgery. And so, you know, she had the surgery, and then from there, she went back and did a long amount of rehab, and then started playing soccer again, until another one down the road did happen and that she decided, okay, we're done doing this. But the reality is she probably could have lived around for a long time before having the surgery later on, whenever that is, or whatever, but she wouldn't have been able to go back and continue playing at all, or coaching or doing any of the things that bring her joy. I think another example would be like Lori on the OPC platform. She was in a car accident and had to have her spine fused, and that's a scary thing, like having your vertebrae fused can become a very limiting problem, but had she not, she would have been living in incredible amount of pain, and what she's been able to persevere despite having a fusion has led to an amazing life.Lesley Logan 20:42  Right? And I just think I really like this, because it's like, how long have you been, like, dealing with it, dealing with, insert, the issue with your body, ache and pain, some sort of limitation, and is it keeping you from saying yes to things that you want to say yes to? Are you not putting things on your vision board? Are you not going on a trip? Are you on the trip and everyone goes up and you just stay there? If that's you, then it may be worth looking at the support that can help you. Now, you might be like Lesley and Brad and Dr. Andrew, like the if I get the surgery, then I can't actually do these things, because it will fuse me, or it will do this. Then guess what? He said, quality of life, and if it's gonna affect all about you, then you don't do the surgery. You can actually take his advice and use it both ways. Brad Crowell 21:27  Yeah, I was thinking about your dad too, because, you know, he's 72 and his knees aren't exciting and.Lesley Logan 21:33  I know. Him not wanting to get an MRI, because he doesn't want to know what it is. Brad Crowell 21:36  He doesn't even want to know what the problem is. Because, you know, and that, that is a bummer to me, because if we, if he was going to have the surgery, especially where he's at in his stage of life, I would argue the sooner, the better, because he's going to recover better. Now imagine if he's to wait five years. Lesley Logan 21:50  Or even if he, I told him we don't have to do surgery, we could just find out what's going on, and then we can know what muscles to strengthen, like even. Brad Crowell 21:58  Well, those are, these are two different arguments. But yeah, I agree. I mean, I couldn't agree more. (inaudible)Lesley Logan 22:04  You just need information, you have to get the information. Can't be scared of the information. I get it. I don't. I don't know why all of us are like I don't I want to go. I don't want to know, because then I might be dying.Brad Crowell 22:15  You're still gonna die. Lesley Logan 22:16  You're still gonna die. And wouldn't you like to know, because then you maybe you go to fucking Fiji. I don't know. Brad Crowell 22:20  Yeah, it's that, too. Lesley Logan 22:21  Yeah. Brad Crowell 22:22  Well, anyway, you know, I think he kind of summed it up, saying, sometimes we push past this tipping point where our quality of life really deteriorates because of the pain, and it probably would have been better to just get the surgery like five years before. So, you know, it's a very interesting perspective. I don't think that that's the perspective of everybody of all physios, because sometimes surgery can have negative effects, but also.Lesley Logan 22:44  I am having problems with my wrists and the doctors did not want me to have surgery. And I said, but I'm limited. I'm 21 years old, and I have pain flare ups, and I'm limited to using my arm, which is affecting my core, because it's actually making me have a functional scoliosis that I don't have. I was like, it is limiting me. If I have the surgery, will the pain go away? And, like, we think so. I'm like, then I would like to do it. So I don't care that only every other week for one day I can't use my arm. No, I want to have my arm every day of the week. And so I fought with them, and they said, well, we want to do one more test. When they did that one more test, guess what? They're like, oh, you need surgery. I'm like. So think about your quality of life and how you want to live it, and then advocate for yourself in that way, either way, that it is. Brad Crowell 22:46  Dig it. All right, stick around we'll be right back. We're going to cover those Be It Action Items from Dr. Andrew Fix. Brad Crowell 23:11  All right, welcome back. So finally, let's talk about those Be It Action Items. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Dr. Andrew Fix? He said most people think that pain is one of the reasons why they don't sleep well, and he argues it's the exact opposite. He said research shows our shitty sleep is the reason that we have pain. Because obviously what I did find interesting is he said we are meant to sleep approximately one-third of our lives. one-third of our lives we are meant to sleep. Lesley Logan 24:05  Brad, did you hear that? Did you hear yourself say it? Brad Crowell 24:07  I don't even understand what that means. I'm lucky if I'm sleeping 25% of my life, but one-third of, he said one-third of our lives, so that we can perform better during the other two-thirds, right? So when we don't sleep well our nervous system does not recover or repair itself, and then we have a pain processing problem where our nervous system doesn't know how to interpret the things that are going on because we have not rested and recovered. So he said you are more likely to have pain if you're not sleeping well. So that's interesting. So to reduce pain, prioritize getting quality sleep, to help your body recover and repair itself. Who knew? Lesley Logan 24:47  I love it. Brad Crowell 24:47  I mean, it's pretty fucking logical. Lesley Logan 24:49  Yeah, that makes a lot of sense to me.Brad Crowell 24:51  Yeah. Lesley Logan 24:51  So he had another Be It Action Item which was, if something was working for you, if something's not serving you, use your mind, plan things out, and also follow your gut. So like, we know we're like this, something doesn't feel right, and we kind of just like, push through, push through. And he is saying, no, use your mind and then make a plan and stick with following your gut. So a lot of times, you will share your plan with people, or you'll like, oh, that's not going to work, but it worked for this person. But if your gut's saying, I think I need to do this, I think, like, he's saying, follow that. That's part of your Be It Action Item. And what's super cool is, well, actually, we've talked about Lori already. So Lori was having a hip thing, and her doctors were saying, like, oh, it's coming from this nerve in your back. And she's like, no, no, I don't think so. And so she was doing PT, and she's like, it's like, making things worse. So it's not working for her. It's not serving her. And so she kind of did some research, figured out, and she went in with a plan, going with her gut. She's like, this isn't working. Here's where that nerve runs, and here's where that should cause pain. I'm having it here. So it's got to be something different. And so they made another plan for her. And so I think that's really, really cool. So she already did this Be It Action Item, everyone. So, you know, go Lori, but I think it's just really, I really, I really like this, too often we kind of just push through, even though we have something like niggling inside, going, don't do it. Brad Crowell 26:07  Yeah, my, my mom had a crazy situation when she was a child. She was a teen, I think. Her finger got smashed in our garage door. Like, completely flat and, yeah, like, terrifying. And she gets rushed to the ER, basically alone, and the doctor came in and said here's what we're gonna do. We're gonna blah-blah-blah, and she looked at him, and she was like, uh, we're not gonna do that. I don't know, whatever you just said, but I don't agree. And she's like, 15 or whatever. I don't know. She's a teen. She's like, argue with a doctor, like, don't touch me, right? And then her parents got there, and they had a conversation. She talked about the whole thing with them, and they ended up doing something else. But she was like, no, I don't even remember what it was like, we're gonna amputate. She's like, hell no. Like, I don't think that's what the problem is, but whatever it was she said, I don't think so. In fact, also too, we just had another conversation just yesterday with a friend of ours. She has been going to a chiropractor for a long time, and her chiropractor was not available during her session for whatever reason, and one of the other chiropractors came in and she said, I'm so sorry. I don't feel comfortable working with you. I'm sorry. You know, so she didn't want to be adjusted by someone else, and that's okay, you know? That's okay to feel that, understand that, and be like, no, so.Lesley Logan 27:21  I also think we have to like, that needs to be normalized. And if you are in some way advocate for yourself in the medical world, and please listen to Lindsay Moore's episode. Listen to the one where they had Jessica Valant. You are not rude, you are not an asshole, you're not a bitch, you're not any of these things. If you are like, I just don't really like this situation. Like, I'm not liking this situation, you don't even have to have a good excuse. Like, if your gut's just like, this is not right. I don't want to do this. It's totally okay to say you know what? Actually, I'm gonna pause, I'm gonna skip this. And I know it's frustrating. I know there's copays, but like, honestly, you'll be in the grand scheme of things, you, you might not know what you just saved yourself from, and that's okay. We don't need to. Like, your gut instinct is really important, and you can fine-tune things along the way. Is what he said. It doesn't have to be perfect. You don't have to have it all figured out when you get to do these things.Brad Crowell 28:13  Yeah, and we just gave a whole bunch of examples of how trusting your gut to say no. But there's also the other way around, where you're like, I know this is the right thing, and I can keep going. So we have this really weird innate ability to be in tune. You know, our body is like telling us, but we actually have to tune into that. Our mind has to pay attention to that. So pay attention. It's important. All right. Lesley Logan 28:34  I'm Lesley Logan.Brad Crowell 28:35  And I'm Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 28:35  Thank you so much for listening. Please leave us a review. I had someone ask, once I can't figure out how to leave a review. So here's the deal. Spotify makes it a little easier. You might just have to search. How do I leave a review on whatever platform you listen to this on, but if you're on Apple, they make it fucking ridiculous.Brad Crowell 28:50  Yeah. You got to go to the show. Lesley Logan 28:52  You have to go to the actual show. Brad Crowell 28:53  And then you have to scroll down. Lesley Logan 28:54  And then you scroll down. Brad Crowell 28:55  It will show you like the most recent six episodes or something. And then beneath that you'll see. Lesley Logan 28:59  You'll see some stars that you can like tap (inaudible) and then you'll and then you'll see, write a review. Brad Crowell 29:04  That's what we need, write a review. Lesley Logan 29:07  And then write a review. And that would be great. All right, until next time, Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 29:12  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 29:14  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod. Brad Crowell 29:56  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 30:01  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co. Brad Crowell 30:05  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi. Lesley Logan 30:13  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals. Brad Crowell 30:16  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

OOIDA's Jay Grimes joins us to go over what you need to know if you're going to get involved in recovery efforts after the recent hurricanes. Also, FMCSA offers a place online for people to report when someone tries to coerce them into violating federal safety regulations. We'll offer some details. And OOIDA tour truck driver Marty Ellis provides a reminder about an important educational opportunity for people who want to become owner-operators. 0:00 – Newscast 10:15 – What truckers need to know in the wake of recent hurricanes 25:08 – Reporting people who try to coerce you 40:05 – Time running out to get in on educational opportunity

Send us a textPerfection in life is a double edged sword. Perfection can lead to excellence and mastery, but it can also lead to obsession and anxiety. In the Pilates community, there is not only a hint of perfectionism but an element of performing, as if on a stage in front of an audience. Joan Blum, our guest, is a 25-year Pilates veteran and former professional dancer. I've asked Joan to share her thoughts about the need to be perfect and the need to perform which sadly is often encouraged in different sectors of the Pilates industry. This episode touches on First Generation Pilates teacher, Jay Grimes who recently passed away and who contributed so much in helping to maintain the Contrology system. About Darien Gold ~ https://www.dariengold.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/darien_gold_pilates_expertFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/dariengoldMusic credits ~ Instagram: @theotherjohnmayer About Joan Blum ~ https://www.instagram.com/joanieblumstagramSupport the show

In this solo episode, Lesley reflects on the importance of giving yourself permission to slow down and feel your emotions, especially during tough times. She shares how she allowed herself to grieve after the loss of her mentor, Jay Grimes, and emphasizes celebrating even the smallest wins. Tune in to hear inspiring listener achievements and discover practical ways to balance speed with stillness in your own life.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:Katie Donnelly overcoming self-doubt in launching her website.Allyn Wong taking time off and completing business tasks.Reflections on the loss of a mentor and creating space to grieve.Experiences and lessons learned from Jay Grimes about Pilates.Episode References/Links:The Pilates Doula  If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. DEALS! Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox Be in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy Webinar  Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable Pilates Follow Us on Social Media:InstagramFacebookLinkedIn  Episode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  It's Fuck Yeah Friday.  Brad Crowell 0:01  Fuck yeah.  Lesley Logan 0:05  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Hi, Be It babe. Happy September. How are you? First Friday of September. What a fun day. I'm sure somewhere where you live, there might be a First Friday event. Have you seen those? They're really great ways to get in your community and get to know people. What is this episode about? Well, this is the FYF, meaning, Fuck Yeah, Friday meaning, let's celebrate some wins along the way. So can you celebrate a win when you complete a project? Absolutely, you may even hear me say that. Can you celebrate a win that's just like a moment of oh my god, that actually went really, really well? Yes, you can. And that's what we talk about a lot. So I share wins of yours that you send me, and I share a win of mine, and I leave you with a fun little mantra. So let's get into it. Our first FYF is from Katie Donnelly. Okay, I had a lot of fear stepping into this title. All my greatest hits of who am I to claim this title? I don't know enough, what if I'm seen as wrong, but I took the first step and check it out. Katie Donnelly has launched the website, thepilatesdoula.com. Congratulations, Katie, and thank you for sharing those greatest hits because it definitely makes all of us like, do you do that listener? Like, my love, do you ever go like, who am I? I shouldn't be doing this. Someone else should be doing this. Oh, like, we're looking for permission to be amazing when you already are. And Katie Donnelly is amazing. She actually did a wonderful workshop for us over on onlinepilatesclasses.com which is a pre and postnatal workshop. And, holy moly, I'm not someone who's having children in my life, but I am making every one of my friends who's getting pregnant watch that course. So it's wonderful, wonderful, wonderful. Thank you, Katie, for letting us celebrate this big moment with you. And also, you guys, just want to say, I checked out her website. Okay? And just two days before (inaudible) she bought the URL. So the website right now is just a website with just a beautiful picture and ways to get in touch with her. You don't have to complete everything to the perfect degree to celebrate the win. You can actually celebrate that you just got the first step done or the second step done. So thank you, Katie, for being an example of that. Allyn Wong said I took, nobody's around, hahaha, two days off from teaching this week, and created a welcome automation email via MailChimp. This is hard for me, so I'm glad it's done and I'm looking forward to seeing if it makes a difference regarding engagement. I also made a Kuna Board and a Gondola poll, posted three times on Insta, got my studio ceiling repainted after it leaked last week, created and ordered new business cards and postcards to put around town, planned a new cola with a pelvic floor P.T. for September, October. I mean, my goodness, so I just want to say, like, I love she took two days off, and it's because, right now it's summer, and so she didn't have any clients. But you can look at us like no one's here or you can actually look what you can get done and, holy moly, look at all these different wins she had. I really love that you celebrated all of these things, big and small, the automation welcome series is so much work and so much tech, but you also did some fun, creative stuff, and you got out into the community. Just truly amazing. Allyn, thank you so much for sharing these with us. All right, my win, this is gonna feel like a really, a really weird win. I'm just sharing with you now, because I've been traveling, and so I was recorded ahead of time, but on July 29th my mentor passed away. I'm gonna try not to cry. I can do this. And I knew he was sick and I was able to see him in April, Brad and I were able to make it happen on a long way home. So from Arizona, we went to L.A. to get to Vegas. But, I got to see him. We got to spend some hours with him, which was just beautiful. But I normally am someone who's like, well, gotta keep going. Gotta, like, normally, I should say, years ago, it's been a while since someone passed, but like, just, would have just tried to get through the whole day, and instead, I actually decided to feel my feelings and take things off my plate. So I still did some work, mostly out of distraction, but I allowed myself to feel my feelings and share how I was feeling and connect with other people who got to learn from him. Jay Grimes is a very special person. And for years, I felt so honored and lucky and blessed, and sometimes wondered how I got to train with him, and I no longer think any of those things. I actually know I got to train with him because I put the work in to train with him. He also is someone who was a man of few words but the words that he did say were really impactful and really important. And so I actually spent the day sharing stories with different friends, remembering them with him. And I've actually still been I've been doing that the last month since then, just as I remember people, I remember something I've been doing that. And you're like, what is the win? The win is in creating a business and a life and a schedule for myself that allowed me to feel the feelings I need to feel, and take the break that I needed to take. And yes, the show had to go on the next day, and I had to do some things. And grief isn't linear, so I'm not, I don't think I'll ever be over it, but I am very, I'm very grateful, and it is a win that I was able to take that time. And so if you are going through a loss, or if something comes up, or you get information that kind of throws a wrench in your day, giving yourself permission to fill your feelings is a win, right? So I thought I would share a really fun story about Jay with you, because you gotta (inaudible) the game. So first of all, one of his, one of my, I have so many favorite sayings from him, but one of them is, "We don't change the work. The work changes us." And another one is, "You do Pilates because you love your body, not because you hate it." I really loved how he allowed everybody to do Pilates, and he knew that everybody can have access to it, and the more they love themselves, the more they're curious in it, the more that Pilates practice would be there. So I just love that. But here's a funny story. So he would say, if you don't like an exercise, then you have to do it twice. That's because you need it. And he said it all the time. But I was in the program with him, so that the, towards the end of 2016, and it was the last weekend of of workshops of the program and so we'd all been quite cozy and fun and whatever. And so he had mentioned that if someone doesn't like an exercise, it's because they need it, so they're going to do it twice. And so, like, I don't know, 20 minutes later, not even that much longer, but it was far enough away, but he didn't realize he was saying, we're on the line rail. And (inaudible) came up and was like, oh, I hate that exercise. And I was like, oh, sounds like someone's got to do it twice. And he looked at me with that look only a parent could have, like, I can't believe you just said that to me right now, but also a smile on his face, like, and he said who let her in here? It was just a funny moment that I'll never forget, and I'm really grateful for that. So, my love, if you've got something going on, give yourself permission to take something off your plate and then celebrate that you did that. That's a win. All right, your mantra for today, because I don't plan a mantra ahead of time. I just pick one. I do not rush through my life, I temper speed with stillness. Oh, that's so perfect. I do not rush through my life, I temper speed with stillness. Say it with me. I do not rush through my life, I temper speed with stillness. My love. No more rushing. Temper your speed with stillness. And thank you so much. Please send your wins in so we can celebrate you on our next FYF and until next time, Be It Till You See It.That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 8:56  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 9:01  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 9:05  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi. Lesley Logan 9:12  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals. Brad Crowell 9:15  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Are you ready to take charge of your personal brand and stop blaming external factors for your lack of progress? In this episode, Lesley and Brad recap conversations with Nick Hiter, a seasoned entrepreneur and podcast host of Hitstreak, who shares valuable insights on personal branding, social media, and the importance of taking ownership of your reputation online and why being intentional about it is key to your success.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:How prioritizing herbs over salt can lead to healthier meal choices.What aspiring Pilates instructors should look for in a certification program.Why your personal brand is more than just your online presence.How to shift your mindset from blaming external factors to taking ownership.The key to creating consistency in your brand and business.Why intentionality is the foundation of long-term success.How to align your personal brand with your goals.Episode References/Links:Nick Hiter's WebsiteWork with NickHitstreak PodcastLesley Logan's Episode on HitstreakFemGevityeLevate Mentorship 2025Cambodia February 2025 RetreatOPC $40 for 40 DaysOPC WebsiteProfitable Business Accelerator ProgramPilates CenterEquinox ProgramVintage and Jay Grimes StudioProfitable Pilates: Everything But the Exercises by Lesley Logan  If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. DEALS! Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox Be in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe It Till You See It Podcast Survey Be a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy Webinar  Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable Pilates Follow Us on Social Media:InstagramFacebookLinkedIn  Episode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  When people ask, most people say, "I'm good." And he said well, guess what? That's all you're gonna be. I'm good. I was like, oh, I don't want to just be good. I'll be fucking amazing. Lesley Logan 0:10  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.  Lesley Logan 0:51  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the intentional convo I have with Nick Hiter in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that episode you have missed out. Just gonna say it. He's got some quotables (inaudible) talk about in a second.Brad Crowell 1:06  Couple of great nuggets. There was even a point where you said rewind that.Lesley Logan 1:10  I did. I did say rewind that. You know, I'm starting to do that, because people maybe like, oh so good. And if I say rewind, they'll be like, oh, I can do that. (inaudible) Everyone knows how to use technology. And also, you guys, I know, I think I said in our interview, but Nick and I had an amazing conversation on his podcast at Hitstreak, and that episode has been out for over a month. Just the content alone is still getting likes and shares like thousands. So just saying, I was pretty amazing too. But really, he has great questions, and he has a great podcast. You'll want to listen to the Hitstreak. Okay. Today is August 29th 2024 and it's More Herbs Less Salt Day. Enjoy More Herbs Less Salt Day on August 29th by reassessing your sodium intake. We understand that maintaining a balanced, healthy diet is easier said than done, especially since the flavor suffers the most. But healthy eating is no longer bland and boring. Spices and aromatic herbs are a great way to reduce salt in meals and amp up the taste. Your taste buds won't know what they're missing and your body will be grateful. I fucking love a salt lick. So I'm just gonna say right now, like, I'm gonna fail on this day.Brad Crowell 2:13  I put this in here on purpose because Lesley is always like, did you add salt? Did you add salt? Did you add more salt? Can you just add some more?Lesley Logan 2:19  I love. I love salt. You guys, I swear to God, I need a salt lick.Brad Crowell 2:24  Well, we also live in Vegas, and we sweat a lot and you know.Lesley Logan 2:26  Yes. And also, I had tests down where they're like, you could add more salt.Brad Crowell 2:31  Really? Lesley Logan 2:31  Yes. Chris Talley was like, you can eat more salt. I'm ike, tortilla chips with salt. He's like, add salt to the salsa. Yeah, no problem. So anyways, like, just in general, I need more. I think, as I do work out as much as I do, and we do live in Vegas, I'm just sweating. At any rate, there are some great herbs out there, and if you work with Femgevity, you will find out your food sensitivities. Because, hi. Brad Crowell 2:54  Femgevity.Lesley Logan 2:55  Femgevity. Because, like I do, you should use our link—beitpod.com/femgevity—it's spelled like, how you think. Did we find that? Is it basil that I can't have? What's on the list? There was some (inaudible).Brad Crowell 3:06  Basil is on the list I think that you're, well, you're.Lesley Logan 3:09  We love basil. Brad Crowell 3:10  You have a mild, a mild.Lesley Logan 3:11  It's a mild sensitivity.Brad Crowell 3:12  Sensitivity to basil. Lesley Logan 3:14  It's, yeah. And then there was a moderate one that was kind of a bummer as well. We'll have to look at it. (inaudible) It's on the list on the refrigerator, guys. I clearly don't cook, he does and we have a list on the fridge. Brad Crowell 3:24  Well, here's what's super cool. For Cyber Monday, Black Friday, whatever deal one year I got one of those, grow it in your kitchen, little garden situation how in the house, on the counter. And I was like, oh, this is so annoying, because once the thing grows and dies, I gotta buy a whole new pod from them. Well, they're only 10 bucks or 12 bucks for like, six pods. I was like, oh, okay, it's not the end of the world.Lesley Logan 3:50  No, it's way less than buying the herbs that go bad in your fridge. Brad Crowell 3:53  Way less than buying the herbs that go bad in your fridge, way.Lesley Logan 3:57  And the plastic around those herbs.Brad Crowell 4:01  Is the worst, just so much waste. Anyway, what's so fun about that, though, is you could have fresh herbs in your kitchen, just be where basil does take over, and so does mint. Mint takes over. Lesley Logan 4:12  Also, like. Brad Crowell 4:13  No, the mint. Lesley Logan 4:13  Was it the mint? I swear it was a dill, because the dill went first. And I was like, first. It did die first, but we also it grew so fast I'm like, what do I use dill on besides a deviled egg? We're gonna make a pickle. What's happening here? Brad Crowell 4:25  It grew and then it got choked out. Lesley Logan 4:27  But we highly recommend herbs. So if, so, first of all, make sure that you are eating ones that are awesome with your body and your body wants. And second, grow your own because it's better for the environment and for your wallet. Okay, upcoming events and travel. We talked about this before, but if you are a Pilates instructor, my mentorship for 2025 applications are open. How many spots are left? I don't know, we're recording this in advance. So there might be none, but there might be some. And also we can talk about 2026, should it be full? So go to lesleylogan.co/elevate. This is for teachers who are looking for someone to help them connect deeper to the method and really up-level their teaching, their practice, especially their practice, and their connection to the method. It is really a lot of fun. Not only can help build confidence if something you're lacking, but also can actually just really empower you to see what's in front of you and teach the body in front of you. And it just feels freaking awesome when you do that, you change more lives. Cambodia retreat, we are less than six months out for the February Cambodia retreat.Brad Crowell 5:26  Yeah, just under six, just under six. Lesley Logan 5:28  I'm so excited. I love the people who signed up for that one, because we know all of them so far, and it's just going to be a blast. So you are going to be an amazing community. Brad Crowell 5:38  Couple long time members, basically get to hang out with, we're so looking forward to it and you could join us. Lesley Logan 5:44  And you also don't, oh my god, it's like an inside club. It's only if they live here, guys. We've only known them for a while on the internet. So we're gonna it's the same as you. So we want you to come and be part of this family. We do become a family. It's really fun in a non-culty way, and we do really, really fun things. So, crowsnestretreats.com. Brad Crowell 6:01  Yeah. crowsnestretreats.com. Okay, guess what? Lesley Logan 6:05  Tell me.Brad Crowell 6:06  OPC, online Pilates classes.com, has a new thing we're doing, yeah, if you're watching us on YouTube, Lesley is pointing to her OPC hat made by Mindy's closet. OPC has a trial membership that we're offering. 40 days for 40 bucks and you can pick any of the three memberships that we offer, which are based on the equipment you have access to. So if you only have a mat, do our mat membership. If you have a mat and a reformer do that one, if you have a whole studio or access to a whole studio, do the all-equipment one. But you can try any of the three for 40 bucks, for 40 days. And what we do is we help you actually take advantage of using the membership. We're really good at this. We have, equip you with tools, we give you a suggested workout thing, we bring you into the community. You get to join us live for one, maybe even two classes, depending on when you join. Live classes, most of them are on demand, so you can take them anytime you'd like from your phone because we have an epic mobile app that you get to take advantage of all the things. So check it out. Go to opc.me/40 opc.me/40 and then finally, I've been doing another webinar series here for Profitable Pilates. It's called The Growth Accelerator, Studio Growth Accelerator. It's a free webinar. If you are feeling stuck with money in your business. I want you to join me on this webinar. We're going to go through a couple of things, three things, actually, that three big things that we're going to help unblock you're not going to feel stuck after this. You're going to have a pathway forward after this. Go to prfit.biz/accelerator. That's profit without the O dot B-I-Z slash accelerator. P-R-F-I-T dot biz slash accelerator. And join me for free. All right, but before we get into it with Mr. Nick Hiter, we did have an audience question, and today's was from YouTube. Melissa dash A-X-H-I-L-I-1-L-I whatever it's a lot, we're just gonna say Melissa. Melissa asked Lesley, where did you get your Pilates certification? Lesley Logan 8:04  So this is a really good question. I've been trying to think about, like, what do I want to say? Because if you're asking because you want to go train there, like, my first training program is in some place that I recommend people. So I'm not going to say it, because I don't want to discuss why I wouldn't recommend it. It was a great program. Brad Crowell 8:05  It was 600 hours. Lesley Logan 8:16  It was 600 hours. Brad Crowell 8:20  Certification only. Lesley Logan 8:21  No. Brad Crowell 8:22  No, it's comprehensive.Lesley Logan 8:22  I had a full comprehensive. And I will say, so the thing is, they don't do the training program that I did before. Now they let you do it modulated. So what I experienced wasn't the most amazing experience, but the setup was really successful because they did make me learn how to teach a beginner and an intermediate client at the same time on two different pieces of equipment, which is why I can just teach chaos and I'm safe with that, right? So I did appreciate that, but it left me feeling like I had memorized a lot but didn't know a lot. And so that's where I'll say the second training that I did, which was the Pilates Center out of Boulder Colorado, with Rachel Taylor Segel and Amy Taylor Alpers and their amazing crew. And I do recommend their program to people because it's around the world, and they have host studios everywhere, and they have virtual options. I also do, (inaudible) I do also recommend Equinox's program if you have access to them. It's very robust. They actually have a really great hybrid model of super, super super supportive help, and then also virtual options for comprehensive but that, so the Pilates Center in Boulder was the actual one that I did as my second one. I did their master's program, which was over three years, and that was several 100 more hours, and I was basically living.Brad Crowell 8:28  You were in and out of Boulder all the time. Lesley Logan 9:26  I was in and out of Boulder so much. Brad Crowell 9:37  I was like, what is this Pilates thing and why are they going to Boulder all the time?Lesley Logan 9:40  All the time, like every two weeks I was there.Brad Crowell 9:42  Are you with a cult? Why do you continue to go there?Lesley Logan 9:45  I know. And it was.Brad Crowell 9:46  That's when we first met, y'all. Lesley Logan 9:47  Super fun. Whole Foods and I were best friends every single day. I think at Mod Market, I think was where I had lunch. At any rate. So that was really helpful, because they helped me get rid of trying to correct people all the time. And I actually watched bodies a little bit more, but I still don't know what that meant and I don't really know what I was doing. And then I realized that I lived down the street from Vintage and Jay Grimes studio and Sandy Shimoda and Karen Frischmann, and so I actually studied with them, and all the things I've been looking for all in one place. It gave me a lot of confidence to just like, really enjoy the process and really enjoy what Joseph Pilates created for us. And here's what I'm gonna say, no first program is ever gonna get you what my third program got me like, it's just not possible. It's not a thing. So for those of you who are like looking to become a teacher, grab my book and then find the best program that is accessible to you, that sets you up for the most success, meaning you can teach.Brad Crowell 10:40  Her book is called Profitable Pilates: Everything But the Exercises. And the beginning part of it helps you choose a teacher training program that is going to help you get to where you want to go. So it explains where you could potentially go, and then works backwards from there. It's really great resource.Lesley Logan 10:56  Yeah. And then you'll come take my mentorship when you're ready. And the thing is, is that Jay will always sayBrad Crowell 11:01  The mentorship is for people who are already certified. Right? So first you're gonna go get certified through any of the myriad of training programs, teacher training programs that are out there. After you've gotten your certification, then you can come and do eLevate. Lesley Logan 11:14  Read my book, because I explain, like, what to be really looking for. Because if you take a mat training, then you want to take my mentorship, that doesn't, that doesn't work. If you just do a Reformer, there's you do have to be trained on multiple pieces of equipment, but to put pressure on your first training program to be everything for you isn't fair to you, nor them. However, there are some shitty ones out there, so be careful and read my book and it will explain like, what to look out for. And then here's the thing, Jay would always say, like, you're not really a teacher until you've been teaching for five years, and people can take a lot of offense to that. Of course, if you've only been teaching three years, I'm a teacher. I have full classes. I get that perspective. I have to say, there's also just a lot of confidence that comes with time and with allowing yourself to be curious. And when you've been teaching for five years, you really have kind of seen a lot of things, and you've realized, like, what's important, what's not important, and hopefully you're progressing people at a better pace than you did when you were beginning. But it's, a second training program is probably in your future for most teachers, because you don't, you're not learning how to say words and understand things, so just know that and give yourself permission to not have gotten it all out of the first program because it's hard to get all that out of any first programs. Brad Crowell 12:29  True. Yeah. Well, that's a great question. Melissa, thank you so much for asking. If you have a question, hit us up. You can text us at 310-905-5534, or you can hit us up on the gram or on YouTube or through our customer support anywhere you want. And I'm sure it'll work its way back here to the pod, and you'll be pleasantly surprised when your question surfaces over here. So thanks for that. Stick around, because we're about to dive in to this conversation with Nick Hiter. Brad Crowell 12:59  All right. Now, let's talk about Mr. Nick Hiter, former pro athlete, Nick Hiter is a dedicated husband and father, deeply rooted in his faith. As a seasoned entrepreneur, he co-owns agency, runs a merchant processing company and operates a set of studios and a creative agency in Tennessee. That sounds like a lot. Nick is also involved in digital marketing and manages various affiliate partnerships. Additionally, Nick is the host of the Hitstreak podcast and the voice of a SiriusXM radio station. So he keeps himself, clearly, quite busy, but he obviously has also surrounded himself with quite a team. Lesley Logan 13:36  Yeah, his team is amazing.Brad Crowell 13:36  We had a chance to meet that team, some of that team in person when we were in Nashville I don't remember a couple months back. They were super professional and had everything ready to go. I wasn't even involved in the interview, but they even made me feel like I was a guest on the show, and it was just really awesome. So a big shout out to the guys over there that we had a chance to work with and also Nick for putting together a really great crew, so. Brad Crowell 13:36  I'm gonna jump in. Brad Crowell 13:47  Do it. Lesley Logan 13:49  But I want to just preface like, about to say something that's gonna make somebody go, oh, this episode's not for me. What I'm gonna say after this applies to everything. Okay, see your own shit in the story. Brad Crowell 14:13  See your own shit. Lesley Logan 14:15  Sure. Nick is like, yes, thanks for saying see your own shit. When it comes to my like, like, I don't think he cusses at all. He mentioned digital marketing is massive. He said many people don't do social media, but then blame the algorithm. He talked about like, it's the algorithm you're blaming. He says you have to take ownership of things, because it's the only way you can fix it. And when we place blame on things, we give someone else ownership, and that means you've removed yourself from being part of the solution. So this goes for everything. When you blame other people or other things for why you didn't get something done Brad Crowell 14:46  Or you're not getting clients, or you're not finding teachers, or Lesley Logan 14:51  You've removed yourself from the solution, and there's, I don't even know how you get the solution solved. So I agree. I actually don't ever focus on the algorithm. I don't really care. I just like, let me experiment. What can I put out? And let's see how it lands. And some of the things I'll do really, really well don't do well at all. And some of the things I'm like, this is nothing, a nothing thing, they do really, really well. So here's the thing, social media is actually not about quality, it's about quantity, which is the opposite of Pilates. But also Brad Bizjack was someone who said, we have the ability to be responsible for things. Brad Crowell 14:51  Is that the Brad he kept referencing? Lesley Logan 14:56  I don't know. Brad Crowell 15:21  Because he referenced Brad multiple times. And I was like, did I say something?Lesley Logan 15:31  Yeah, and I wonder if it's Brad Bizjack, because we'll have to ask him, I don't know. But like, people get pissed off when Brad Bizjack would say, like, the things that happened to you you're responsible for, because we have the ability to respond and it allows you to not be a victim of a situation, and allows you to take ownership and lead the change of what you want to see. So I think that goes for social media, but also for anything you want to do. Brad Crowell 15:53  Well, in this case, what he was talking about was the insurance business. So previous to insurance, he and his partner, I want to, I imagine it was his wife, had they were in the clubs, they were promoting, right? So they had a promoting company, and promoting was all about the hustle, connecting, getting in there, meeting people, socializing, and so they were all over the social media game, because they needed to. If you didn't play that game, you did not succeed in the world of promoting. And then when they started their insurance company, they just transitioned that momentum over to doing insurance. And he said it created a massive leg up for them, because at the time, no one else was doing social media in the insurance game. And they slayed, right? And it really set them up to create that foundation. But all that rolls into what I want to talk about, which was he talked about your personal brand, and it being your reputation online. He said he started off as a pro athlete, and it allowed him to get his foot in the door at a lot of different places because of his reputation. But just because he was a pro athlete didn't mean he had an online personal brand. He said, once he they had established the online brand for himself, for Nick Hiter and then was consistently delivering quality content and creating an audience around it, he said at this point, we could launch any business we want and we could leverage the personal brand and roll it into whatever business we wanted to.Lesley Logan 17:20  JLo has gyms, guys, you know that? She's got gyms, like, what's her name? Goldie Hawn's daughter, she's got clothing. She's got making music. Once you have this reputation, people know and trust, they'll follow anything that you're going to do. Brad Crowell 17:34  Yeah, and we tell all of our clients with agency, hey, focus on one thing first. So if you're going to open a Pilates studio, don't also open a yoga studio and a gym and a thing and a whatever, unless you're happening to roll them all into one and they're marketing it as that one thing. But you have to build that foundation first of the one thing, and then from there, once you've created that notoriety, once you've built that trust, then you can, like, introduce speaking gigs or workshop gigs or other things, or start a podcast or do other things. Speaker 1 18:04  I know we meet people all the time, like, I want to have my on-demand membership. I'm going to have a podcast. I want to do a retreat. And I'm like, okay, do you have a team? Do you have money? Because if you don't have both of those things, you can do one of those things very well on your own, but all three not at the same time. Brad Crowell 18:19  Yeah. So with the personal brand, he said, Hey, it's so important to take it seriously. Pretend your personal brand is a company. He said, when life gets busy, it's most often the thing that takes a back seat, and at the end of the day, it is the foundation for anything else that you want to do down the road. So he talked about it the entire show. So it was great. I really appreciated it. He said, It's a commitment. Put your personal brand on a level of importance, just like other things in your life, like family, kids, business. Speaker 1 18:47  I mean, I think that's a, and here's the thing, it's like, do you know what your priorities are? Because I think most people say their priorities are the growth of their business and their family and their kids and their whatever. And then when you look at their schedule, you see it's answering emails, paying the bills, going grocery shopping, so like, make sure that your priorities are really in your schedule, and you can make that commitment. Brad Crowell 19:10  Yeah, love it. Stick around. We're gonna cover those Be It Action Items in just a sec. Brad Crowell 19:13  All right. So finally, let's talk about those, Be It Action Items. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Nick Hiter? He said, "Everything you do has got to be done on purpose. The difference between major league pitcher and the little league pitcher is the size target they can hit. The more specific you are with the targets and your goals, the better chances you have of hitting them." Nick explained, he actually had a ton of metaphors and a lot of quotes. I was joking with Lesley earlier, and I said, I think that if you live in Nashville, like when you move in, they just give you a book of quotes because all the Nashville guys that we interview, they rattle off quotes. It's really impressive because they're totally applicable for the moment. But I'm like, I don't have that in my what is, I need more, I need quotes from Wayne Gretzky like he quoted at the very end. He said, you don't win the championship by accident, you choose it, and that was the goal that you wanted. So you do the work. In fact, the quote he said was just the Gretzky quote is, "You win the game before you even step on the ice." Right? And I was like, wow. Mindset, powerful confidence. I've got this. That's amazing to me. I mean, everything you do has got to be on purpose. So love it. What about you? Lesley Logan 20:27  Well, more quotes. He quoted Bruce Lee. Brad Crowell 20:30  He did. He also quoted Bruce Lee. Lesley Logan 20:31  By the way, I did a Bruce Lee exercise today in my Pilates session, because this other guy from Korea did it and I was like, and my teacher, Ken, was like, oh, Lesley, you could do that. And I was like, I, I'm gonna do it, obviously. And you know what, guys, I hadn't done it in like, 10 years, and I fucking did it. Brad Crowell 20:31  Nice. Lesley Logan 20:47  So we're channeling Bruce Lee today. Brad Crowell 20:49  We're channeling.Lesley Logan 20:50  He said, "You're casting spells on yourself with the words that you say." So when people ask Nick how he's doing, his response is, "I'm unstoppable."Brad Crowell 20:58  I'm unstoppable. Talk about an amazing response. Lesley Logan 21:02  Yes, I'm unstoppable. And by the way, it does make me think of Cafe Gratitude. It's like, I'm gonna honor the unstoppable bowl. And when they bring it to you, they're like, you are unstoppable.Brad Crowell 21:12  I mean, I made this decision a long time ago. When people ask me, what do I say? Lesley Logan 21:17  I'm amazing. Brad Crowell 21:17  I'm amazing. Yeah. Lesley Logan 21:19  You probably should stop saying when people say, what are you up to? You have to stop saying, "Drugs."Brad Crowell 21:23  Oh, maybe I have to stop saying drugs. Brad Crowell 21:25  You are casting a spell on yourself. Brad Crowell 21:26  That's been my quote for 25 years or my joke for 25 years. Lesley Logan 21:28  I know and people don't think that. They don't know that you're joking. They think that you're serious. Brad Crowell 21:32  So, what do you do? I used to just say drugs. Lesley Logan 21:34  Yeah. What do you do for a living? It's like, drugs. And like, they just stop, now, because they, now peopleBrad Crowell 21:40  Yeah, now they're like, can, can you? Is he? Lesley Logan 21:41  Well, because now so many drugs are legal, they think it's true. So like, you gotta, you have to come up with something better, because you're casting spells on yourself, and it's not good. Okay. He says at enough times he actually believes that everything takes repetition. And he talked about when people ask most people say, "I'm good." And he said, "Well, guess what? That's all you're gonna be." I'm good. I was like, oh, I don't want to just be good. I'll be fucking amazing. Brad Crowell 22:05  Yeah, I want to be unstoppable. Lesley Logan 22:07  Yeah, yeah. So, you know, everyone, just start looking up different—are those adjectives? What's unstoppable? Is that a verb? Brad Crowell 22:12  I have no idea.Lesley Logan 22:12  Is it an adverb? You guys, I cheated all through English class, so I'm just gonna tell you right now. I will never know. Sometimes I don't really know the differences semicolon and a colon. So. Brad Crowell 22:12  It's an adjective. Lesley Logan 22:14  It's an adjective. Well, look at me. I was around the first I should have just trusted myself. I should just had the confidence to just go, "It's an adjective." At any rate, you guys just look up adjectives and then pull out five that strike your fancy and try them on and say them enough times—you'll believe them. I'm Lesley Logan. Brad Crowell 22:46  And I'm Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 22:46  Thank you so much for listening to us today. This is amazing. I hope if you haven't yet listened to Nick.Brad Crowell 22:51  This is unstoppable. Lesley Logan 22:52  It's unstoppable. You know what this is? It's fucking awesome. This is one of the best podcasts you've ever listened to. I know it. So what are you gonna do with this episode? You're gonna share it with a friend. Brad Crowell 23:00  You are going to share it with a friend. Lesley Logan 23:01  You're gonna share it with a friend. We're gonna say it one more time. Share this with a friend. You can text it. You can tweet it, you can email it however you communicate. Brad Crowell 23:08  You can X it. Lesley Logan 23:09  You can carry-your-pigeon it to somebody and because this is how the show grows. And also check out what Nick's doing if that was inspiring for you. Until next time, Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 23:21  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 23:23  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. 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Lesley Logan and Brad Crowell recap the conversation with Matt Gerlach, an entrepreneur and breakthrough consultant focused on men's mental health and well-being. This recap explores the impact of unhealed trauma on loved ones and the critical role parents play in modeling self-care and teaching children the importance of boundaries. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:Why microchipping is essential for pet safety.Expansions to OPC fitness decks and where to purchase.How to embrace imperfection and self-acceptance.Impact of unhealed trauma on family members and future generations.The essential role of parents in teaching boundaries to their children.How to break the cycle of generational trauma and foster healing.How to take control of your life with goal-setting strategies. Episode References/Links:Barrels Deck FlashcardsOPC Summer TourCambodia February 2025 RetreatOPC $40 for 40 DayseLevate Mentorship ProgramPilates Studio Growth Accelerator Program 6-Step Guide to Creating Your Dream Life with Matt GerlachMatt Gerlach's PodcastLauren Zoeller Episode 388  If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. DEALS! Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox Be in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy Webinar  Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable Pilates Follow Us on Social Media:InstagramFacebookLinkedIn  Episode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  To think that you are less than and then you just have to be better. And once you're better, then things are better. Actually, the more you love and accept yourself, the better all things are.  Lesley Logan 0:11  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.  Lesley Logan 0:53  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the growth-oriented convo I had with Matt Gerlach in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that interview, feel free to pause this now and go back to listen to that one. And then come back and join us.Brad Crowell 1:11  Yeah.Lesley Logan 1:11  What a sweet guy. I like him a lot.Brad Crowell 1:13  It was a super thoughtful interview. Lesley Logan 1:14  Yeah, he's super vulnerable and authentic. Brad Crowell 1:18  That's how he described himself is he said he wasn't always vulnerable. And I mean, it definitely if that's something he intentionally worked on, it comes through in that interview. It was great. Lesley Logan 1:30  Some coaches in that space could be like a look at me. Look what I've done, you know, like just do it my way. And he's definitely like, I'm on this journey and here's what's helped me. And it's more of a guide. And I really appreciate that about him. So today is August 15th, 2024 and it's Check the Chip Day. Brad Crowell 1:47  That's right. Lesley Logan 1:48  About this day, Check the Chip Day is celebrated annually on August 15th. It's that time of the year when we raise awareness regarding the importance of microchipping. Brad Crowell 1:56  Microchipping. Lesley Logan 1:57  Which greatly helps in reuniting missing pets with their owners. In fact, every second a pet family pet is lost with only one in 10 ever being found. Every second a family pet is lost and only one in 10 are ever found. There's a fucking lot of seconds in a day. So on one tenth. Oh my god. This is very depressing.Brad Crowell 2:17  That's why we're raising awareness. Check the Chip Day.Lesley Logan 2:20  Approximately 10 million pets are lost annually.Brad Crowell 2:23  Ten million.Lesley Logan 2:24  Microchipping provides peace of mind to pet owners as it confirms the safety of their beloved pets. Gone are the days when pets were kept in cages now, they can be free and out of harm's way. Okay.Brad Crowell 2:34  Yeah. Okay. So FYI, they, I, I tried to figure out the best way to check your chip. Okay. Cause if it's Check Your Chip Day, how do we do it? Ultimately you need to have a special RFID reader and your cell phone can't do the job. So there are a couple of apps that connect to a reader, but you got to buy the damn reader first. So I really went down the rabbit hole on here. Basically, take your, take your dog to the vet, get the chip read, right? Get that number. And then here's the, here's the problem. You might have a chip, but the chip still has to be registered with a system.Lesley Logan 3:11  And also a lot of people don't update their contact information. Brad Crowell 3:16  They almost never do. Lesley Logan 3:16  So they move things like that. I follow one of the rescue, dog rescues out here and after the 4th of July, they got in 400 pets in a day, 400 pets turned in, most of them had chips. And so, first of all, if you do find a pet, go to a vet, just drive to a vet and have it checked, do not go to a pound and things like that, because some of those are kill shelters, and if they, even if they have a microchip, they have a limited space, so take them to a vet, and then that way they can scan the thing, and then they can hopefully contact someone, but everybody, you need to update. Brad, are ours updated?Brad Crowell 3:55  Yeah. Lesley Logan 3:57  Okay.Brad Crowell 3:57  Yeah, there's a couple of different databases. You can just search for pet, you know, pet chip databases or microchip databases. Cause it depends on the chip. Sometimes the chip depends on the database. Like for example, we have two of our dogs are in one database and then one is in a different database. But they need to be in a database.Lesley Logan 4:15  Oh, cause we had two dogs in California and one in Nevada. Brad Crowell 4:17  That's right. Lesley Logan 4:18  So also another way you can do this, you guys, we have them chipped and we have them, what do we call these things?Brad Crowell 4:24  Air tagged. Lesley Logan 4:24  Air tagged. Brad Crowell 4:25  Yeah. We also put air tags on ours.Lesley Logan 4:26  And we have air tags and they have these cute little things that go on their collars and the air tags are great because whenever we get out of the van on tour, it goes, you've left three items behind. So it's always August. It's like, you've left. It's like, he's right here. Like, don't panic me about the one that runs off.Lesley Logan 4:34  You've left your item, Gaia, behind.Lesley Logan 4:46  Yeah. So anyways, do both, double dose it.Brad Crowell 4:50  Yeah. Double dose it. So next time you go to the vet or even just go to that now.Lesley Logan 4:56  I would not wait. If you have no idea, if you're sitting here listening to us going, I wonder if mine is like, don't, you'll be so pissed if in three days, your dog gets out and then you're like, they told me, it's like, yeah, we did.Brad Crowell 5:09  Handle it. All right. Here's what's coming up in events and travel. A summer tour. We are on the road right now. As we speak we are probably leaving St. Louis and driving to Kansas city. By the time you're listening to this we have. Today's the 15th, tomorrow the 16th. We're in Kansas city on the 18th. We're in Colorado Springs, Colorado. If you are in either of those places and you want to come hang out go to opc.me/tour, opc.me/tour. That's it for the summer tour at this point, and then we're going to be doing a winter tour leaving in December but we're still working on all the specifics for that. So right now, the last two stops are going to be Kansas City and Colorado Springs. After that, we are still taking applications for elevate. That's Lesley's mentorship program. It's a Pilates mentorship program. It is nine months long. It is an amazing opportunity where Lesley gets to pass on all the information she learned from her teacher, Jay Grimes, who literally studied with Joseph Pilate. He taught all the stuff he knows. Lesley Logan 6:10  Pilate? Just Joseph Pilate? Brad Crowell 6:11  Just Joseph Pilate. Just Joseph, one Pilate. Lesley Logan 6:14  He's one Pilate. Brad Crowell 6:15  Yeah, he only has one. Joseph Pilates and he, Jay, passed on all the information that he knows to Lesley. She's literally been working with him for 12 years. Something like that. 10 years, at least 10, more than 10. Lesley Logan 6:27  Yeah, yeah. Brad Crowell 6:28  Yeah. 12 years. You're super young, babe. I love you so much. And she gets to pass on all this information. Go to lesleylogan.co/elevate. You'll be able to say that you're classically trained. You're going to be a third generation teacher. You're going to be able to connect all the dots for all the different pieces of equipment. It's going to help you with class planning. You're not going to talk as much when you teach. It's going to be great.Lesley Logan 6:46  I think the official would be 10 years, guys. Brad Crowell 6:48  Ten. Lesley Logan 6:49  Official. Yeah. Yeah.Brad Crowell 6:50  She's still doing the math all right. It's all right. Lesley Logan 6:52  I just want to, I don't want to lie, you know.Brad Crowell 6:54  We don't want you to lie. Okay. So, then, we are going to Cambodia in February 2025 crowsnestretreats.com crowsnestretreats.com. Y'all know it's my favorite thing to do of all the things that we do. It is an amazing experience. It is incredible trip. We're going to go romp through the jungle. We're going to eat great food, local food. We're going to do some Pilates. We're going to meet up amazing people. It's a journey and it's an incredible journey and we want you to join it with us. Come stay at our house, crowsnestretreats.com. All right. You want to take the next two?Lesley Logan 7:26  Yeah, because I want you to be an OPC member. You guys, it is one of the best places to do your Pilates because guess what? You can do Pilate, you can do your Pilates anywhere you can lay down and OPC is, I know you're like, I won't do it online. I have to go to a place. You can still go to a place and you can be an OPC member because here's the deal. You need to do more Pilates than you think. Once a week isn't going to cut it. Our classes are 30 minutes long, but finishing is optional. And we have monthly classes that are 50 minutes long. We hold you accountable because classes do disappear, but as of last month, you actually have the weekly classes access for two weeks for each class. So each week we drop a new class. But you have access to this week's class and last week's class. Don't you like how creative those names are? This week's class and last week's class. Yeah. And one of our teachers today was like, if you're like, Oh my god, I'm overwhelmed. Which one do I do? She closed her eyes and she hits click. So there you go. Thanks, Christine, for that. So opc.me/40 gets you 40 days of OPC for $40. You can quit if you don't like it, but hey, you might love it.Brad Crowell 8:28  You might just love it. Lesley Logan 8:29  And by the way, it can be part of that 2 percent of every day you dedicate to you. And then if you are a Pilates instructor and you are feeling like your business is just not making the money that you want, then I want you to join Brad for our free webinar. It 's called Accelerator and it's really amazing because by the way, there is money in Pilates and you can make it and you are capable of doing it. And no, you don't have to do crazy memberships or do wild things on social media. Brad Crowell 8:56  Grow a million followers. Lesley Logan 8:58  There's a path for every single person to make the money they want to make, especially when you have, when you're armed with the knowledge on how to do it. So go to prfit.biz/accelerator prfit.biz/accelerator.Brad Crowell 9:09  That's profit without the O prfit.biz/accelerator.Lesley Logan 9:14  All right. We're going to get into this episode with Matt, but before we do, we have an audience question.Brad Crowell 9:18  We sure do. Esta Zero on YouTube says, Hey you've been talking about these flashcards. Where do I find them?Lesley Logan 9:27  Yeah, I was like, oh, this is an easy question. You guys, you just go to onlinepilatesclasses.com and if you go to the shop, it'll say flashcards. Brad Crowell 9:36  Yeah, or you go to opc.me/flashcards. That'll also do it. So directly to the spot.Lesley Logan 9:40  And right now, this episode is coming out. You'll have access to four decks of the five we've worked on so far. The fifth one is the Barrels deck and that one is, I think you can buy it, you just have to wait. That one will be out probablyBrad Crowell 9:56  Barrels will be shipping in Lesley Logan 9:57  September, October? Brad Crowell 9:57  Eight to ten weeks from, yeah, next week.Lesley Logan 10:01  Yeah. So, yeah. So we're probably looking at like Brad Crowell 10:03  we're probably looking at like timber. We're looking like Lesley Logan 10:05  October. Brad Crowell 10:05  Yeah, beginning of October.Lesley Logan 10:07  But also here's fun news. The mat deck got a makeover. Brad Crowell 10:12  It sure did. Got a facelift. Lesley Logan 10:14  Yeah. Facelift. It got fillers. We got more exercises in there. Brad Crowell 10:21  That's great. Lesley Logan 10:22  It's actually youthful. Cause it got, it went from its vintage vibe to other rebrand that is so  Brad Crowell 10:28  It's hip, young and cool now. Lesley Logan 10:29  Hip, young and cool. And it has standing exercises in there. We have more prep exercises in there. It's just really, really fun. So if you haven't got the mat deck yet, you should get this new one, which is probably shipping like as we speak, because it was eight weeks ago, four weeks ago, so it's probably in three to four weeks still, but. Yeah. It's happening.Brad Crowell 10:51  Yeah. We're talking end of August.Lesley Logan 10:53  It's a little beefier, but still that same great feel that will fit in your gym bag. We'll go on a trip with you. All the good things. So you can get those. Also. Oh my god. I left the cat out of the bag right now. We are reprinting the Reformer Deck and I added the related mat exercises to the Reformer Deck. Brad Crowell 11:11  What? Lesley Logan 11:12  I know.Brad Crowell 11:13  So we've also given a facelift to the Reformer card.Lesley Logan 11:16  It's a tiny one. Micro lift, a mini lift. It was a mini lift. Brad Crowell 11:20  It's a lash extension. Lesley Logan 11:21  Yeah. That's really what it is. You're correct. You are so correct. And then because because my team, it just wants to finish this, the flashcard project. I'm already working on deck number six.Brad Crowell 11:35  It's only been five years. Only.Lesley Logan 11:37  Four. Four. We came up with the idea in 2019, but I didn't write the mat deck until February of 2020 and then the pandemic happened. But in the later part of the pandemic of 2020, we released the Mat Deck. So currently it has been four official years.Brad Crowell 11:52  Okay. That's fair. That's fair. Four years. Five decks.Lesley Logan 11:54  But the sixth deck will be the fifth year. And then, oh my god, Meredith's like, maybe you do an expansion deck. And I was like, shh. You shut your mouth, you zip it.Brad Crowell 12:02  You just wait up. Hold up.Lesley Logan 12:03  You zip it. Cause I have some ideas of what I want to do with these cards. Like when you, I, I want it, I want, I wouldn't do like a text message that like sends you cards that like, it's almost like a tarot reading, but like the cards are laid out to like create an exercise. Brad Crowell 12:19  That could be fun. Lesley Logan 12:19  Isn't it fun like today's that you're reading today is this? We make it all like Shamany. Brad Crowell 12:26  All right. We'll figure it out. We'll figure it out. Lesley Logan 12:28  Anyway, stop.Brad Crowell 12:29  If you, if y'all have any ideas on how you would want us to work with you on these cards.Lesley Logan 12:34  No, we're not making a digital deck. Brad Crowell 12:37  No, we're not doing a digital deck. Lesley Logan 12:38  So you can ask and it's.Brad Crowell 12:39  Although I, I have been tempted to do a, a full app that, that, that's interesting. That could be interesting.Lesley Logan 12:47  No, we have an app and they can watch the videos in there. No. Lesley Logan 12:50  They can't watch the videos. Lesley Logan 12:51  No. No, no, the cards are the way they are, but I may help people put building blocks together is the thing that I would be interested in doing. And since I'm the one doing it, this is what I want to do. So let me know if you like that idea and if your idea sucks. Keep it to yourself.Brad Crowell 13:10  Stick around, we'll be right back. Okay, now let's talk about Mr. Matt Gerlach. Matt is an entrepreneur, an author, and an owner of a breakthrough consulting business netting over a million dollars in annual revenue. He focuses on men's mental health and well being. Matt draws from his own experiences to guide clients through their struggles. His work emphasizes the importance of self-worth, setting boundaries, goal setting, and breaking the cycles of trauma. And generationally, too. You know, I thought it was really cool that he said, I'm the first one in my family to break this cycle, right? Super aware of that. And that's pretty cool. I think that's awesome. Lesley Logan 13:53  I know. It's really, it's really amazing. When he first, when we first met him and he spoke, I was like, wow, beautiful. He like, like his soul is beautiful. You know, like, it's just really, really amazing. So he said, there's never a destination when we're perfect. Like, like, there's just not like, like perfect doesn't get, you don't get to stop, you know? And so what he said is his biggest thing is that he, that he's ever done is he. Brad Crowell 14:17  I think he said, I think he said this. Lesley Logan 14:20  Yeah. Yeah. And if you're not watching YouTube, then you don't know what just happened. So that was not for the folks at home, babe. But we have a hat is really what it all is. That was a little of a merch, you know, thing. It's, 'Perfect is boring,' it's what the hat said. So he said the biggest thing he's done is to learn to love and accept himself in learning and loving this, to accept himself was to recognize that there's nothing wrong with him. And I really love that. You guys, there's nothing wrong with you. Like, you are enough. We have, oh, another merch.  Brad Crowell 14:52  Another merch.  Lesley Logan 14:53  We are, but who knew? I didn't know this today, but we have a sweatshirt that says, you are enough. You've done enough today. When you look at it in the mirror and then on the back, it tells the person behind you, you've done enough today. But at any rate there's nothing wrong. And I think that's really a hard thing because yes, of course self-growth and self-development is an amazing thing. There's always something you can learn about yourself. But to think that you are less than, and then you just have to be better, and once you're better, then things are better. Actually, the more you love and accept yourself, the better all things are. You know? You bring a whole different vibe to every group you're in, a whole different, you have less insecurity in conversations and so deeper conversations can happen. It's just really amazing. And so he also did talk about boundaries, you know, I'm a big fan of boundaries. And he said that it was because he really focused on boundaries and advocating for himself. He was able to take his business into a million dollar paycheck for himself. And that's also cool because most people think I gotta say yes to everyone. I gotta people-please. I gotta work all the time. No, I can't have boundaries because then people won't like me and then I won't make any money. And that's not true because he fucking made it work. Million dollar a year paycheck. I, yeah, I love that. Brad Crowell 16:01  Yeah. I mean, that's, actually, his story was that when he first started his business, he didn't have any boundaries. And his clients were like, flying him all over the place and he was doing all this stuff and he was getting really, he was building a lot of resentment when asked to handle things that he probably, my guess is, had advised against, they did it anyway, and he's like, what the fuck, now I have to clean up your mess and it was building a lot of resentment, and that's because he didn't have boundaries at the time. And then over time started to shift all that and change it. So, I mean, what an awesome thing to be able to help guide people through setting those boundaries you know, for his clients with his clients, really cool. One thing I loved, he said is that his mission, his, he talked about his mission, helping unhealed trauma. And he mentioned that trauma, when left unhealed, you think it's not affecting anyone or you think it's not affecting you, but it is, it's actually being passed to your loved ones. It's being passed to the people in your immediate circle. Whether you realize it or not, we are, we are passing it along and whether we're intentionally doing it or not, we are passing it along. So that was actually kind of shocking to me. I was like, never thought about that. He highlighted the time we're in right now where the word generational trauma is becoming a lot more prevalent. We're, we're becoming a lot more aware of it. And that's why I found this impactful is because my parents don't seem like they're traumatized people, but I definitely learned things from them that I had to choose to part ways with later on in my life. And it's taken me a long time to understand how I was thinking, why I was thinking it that way, and then make the decision to no longer think that way. Not to tell too long of a story here, but generally a lot to do with money and the way that I think about money. Was definitely, I adopted it from my, my parents. The irony is I never actually learned how to handle money. What I got from them was the emotional element of money. And it was negative. There's never enough money, right? Save every penny you got because you're never going to have enough money. And so I never learned. I learned how to save, you know, but I didn't actually do it. But I learned about that. But I didn't learn how money growth worked. And so it created this weird fear around it. And I don't think my parents meant to do that. That wasn't something that they, but it was, it was clearly something that, you know, they adopted, too.Lesley Logan 18:34  And also just speaking of what parents could do. So many parents don't make time for themselves because they're like, oh, I want to do things with my kids. Do you know the best thing you could teach your child is that you, boundaries. Like I, in the morning, I spend time with myself. You get to spend time with yourself and we all are allowed and all deserve time to go inward and think about ourselves. You want to, you want to pass something on, pass on boundaries.Brad Crowell 19:01  Yeah. I mean, imagine, I mean, this is one of the things that we encourage all of our OPC you know, clients to do is say, hey family, I love you so much. Right now is my time to practice Pilates. I'm only asking for 2 percent of my day and I'm going to do that right now. And when this is happening, I'm doing that.Lesley Logan 19:21  And also, do you want to know what else you can do? They can join you. They just can't talk to you. Brad Crowell 19:25  Right. Lesley Logan 19:25  So, Emily, our neighbor who we did our pop up at her store, I sent her a workout the standing workout from my YouTube channel and she posted, her friend and her doing the same workout. They've never done it before. Brad Crowell 19:39  Cool. Lesley Logan 19:39  They're following along with me. And guess what? One of their daughters just came right up and just started doing right behind them. Brad Crowell 19:44  That's so cool. Lesley Logan 19:45  Didn't interrupt them. Didn't say, hey, can I have this? Like just started doing it because. Brad Crowell 19:49  I love that. Lesley Logan 19:50  They are an example of like taking care of their selves and like, that's important. And so kids just catch on to these good things and they'll catch on to the shit too.Brad Crowell 19:59  Yeah. I love that. When you don't address trauma you are passing it on. And he's, he said he emphasizes the importance of negotiating goals and making achievable plans, focus on goal-setting with his clients, also articulates their goals and overcome limiting belief. And he said, it's really being able to take control over your life and realize that you have agency in building the life that you want and making changes. You know, we totally agree. That's exactly why we created our coaching program, our fitness business coaching program, which is called Agency. It is on purpose. You know, so couldn't agree more. Love that. And there's so many bunch of different ways you can process trauma.Lesley Logan 20:39  You can also reach out to Matt and see what options he's offering and also Brad Crowell 20:43  Actually he is offering a 30-minute call to work with him. Lesley Logan 20:47  Yeah. Brad Crowell 20:48  So, and, and here's, here's the thing, you know, it was working mostly with men, but I'm sure he'll take your call too.Lesley Logan 20:54  Yeah, I'm sure he will. And also like, if you're listening to this and you have a man in your life, send them this episode because you don't have to be the one to tell them what to do. They can figure it out for themselves.Brad Crowell 21:03  That's true. But, we'll tell him, hey, your wife gave you this episode on purpose so that you can book a call with Matt.Lesley Logan 21:10  We could just tell, we just do that. Well then thank your wife. Brad Crowell 21:13  Thank you, wife. Lesley Logan 21:15  Happy life. Happy wife. There you go. Brad Crowell 21:17  Stick around. All right, so finally, let's talk about those Be It Action Items. What bold, executable, intrinsic, or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Matt Gerlach? He said, just to keep going, you need to stay on the journey and celebrate the small wins along the way. Perfectionism is a very real thing. We've talked about perfectionism so much on this pod. I loved in his three steps that he was talking about. Perfectionism was like number one and he said, you got to let it go. And he said, it's probably the hardest thing. So this is like, even though it's step one, it's still challenging to do. And ironically, I found it, I found it really funny that you said, I call myself a recovering perfectionist because I think the idea of. Getting rid of perfectionism is the perfectionist in me . So I'll call myself the recovering perfectionist. I agree. You know, like I'm also, I'm healed. I'm no longer perfect. Alright. Which is the perfect form of, like it's.Lesley Logan 22:18  That's just perfectionism. Yeah. I'm, by the way guys, I'm reading this book on perfectionism and it's irritating the fuck outta me . And I had written to the woman saying, I want her on the pod on. And I, if she comes on the pod. I, I have several questions for her because like, she's basically saying to own your perfectionism, but to let go of the malignant parts and like, keep the like healthy parts. And I'm like, but isn't that like being a human with like, like, isn't that just using your strengths? Like there are strengths that you're, I'm just like, I'm struggling with it. Anyways, I'm a couple of girlfriends are reading it. We're all texting about it. And I just, I'm like. No, I, I don't. She's like, I don't have to call yourself a recovering perfectionist. And I'm like, yeah, I do. And it's not like, I'm like, I'm not using it as like, oh, don't mind me. I'm recovering perfectionist. I'm not using that. No, it's just like, it's a reminder. oh, let that shit go. What basically, Matt's Be It Action Item, we got to let it go. Like that's, I'll let it go.Brad Crowell 23:13  And, and being vulnerable, you know, he said he said, listen, you know, something he's been working on for a long time. And he still feels like he's only penetrated 10% of this perfectionism wall that he has built around himself. So, you know, don't beat yourself up. But it's something, the more you focus on it the more aware of it you'll be and the easier it will be to go I'm doing it again, doing it again. So yeah, what about you?Lesley Logan 23:40  He said, you need to talk to someone about what's going on. And it's really true. Like things grow in the dark, like in the darkness, but when you shed light on it, like it can kill all that bad stuff. And shedding light on it is talking to someone and very, most importantly, he said, select wisely. And so here's the deal, like, absolutely, you can reach out to Matt because if he's not a person for you, I'm sure he has resources for you. So that's what I would do if we've had other guests on in a similar vein, like, reach out to them. These are people who have resources and they have ideas. We are, we are not people who do like, therapy or somatic work we just know people who do and so, but he, you have to select wisely because I think people go, oh, I tried therapy and it didn't work for me. There are so many different types of therapy. And there are soBrad Crowell 24:29  You just had a deep dive with Lauren Zoeller about somatics versus talk versus, you know. Yes.Lesley Logan 24:36  Yes. And there's like, people are doing EMDR. They're doing all this different stuff. So trust your, don't trust your gut if you're like, I don't know, this person's listening to me. I was my person. Go the next person. And I know that's hard. I know, especially when you are finally aware that you are trying to deal with your trauma and it's affecting your life negatively. We want it to like fix it tomorrow. And all of these people might have wait lists or like time, but just know that the fact that you've acknowledged you have this help and that you are on the journey to find someone. Do not let the first one or two people who don't feel like they're a great match, stop you from doing this. Keep searching, keep looking, it's, it's, it, you are worth it. And so use this free call. We have the link. Brad Crowell 25:19  Yeah, it'll be in the show notes. Lesley Logan 25:21  Yeah. So check it out. Go check out Matt Gerlach. Share this with a friend, share this with a dude in your life who we've had Michael Unbroken on and like other people, we've a lot of men in our lives who like, I think are really cool people like Matt, they've done work and they're on this journey and they're always uncovering themselves. They're always learning and growing. And so it can seem like that's what everyone is doing, but also like they did, they've been doing it for years and it took just the acknowledgement and the first step. So it is possible for the people in your life to take that first step. Sometimes as soon as ready, the teacher appears and maybe this episode or other episodes will help ready them. You know, they might hear something in his story that gets them to go, oh, hey, wait, that's me. That's not normal? You know, like that, you know, like you said, neither one of our parents were actually very like textbook traumatizing to us.Brad Crowell 26:13  I'm the problem. It's me.Lesley Logan 26:14  Yeah. But like, you know what I mean? Like when we think about like people like, oh, I like lost my parents and like, this person killed this person in front of me.Brad Crowell 26:23  It's not like my parents were abusive or anything like that. But still. Yeah. And, and actually he mentioned there's like, there's a, there's a big difference between big T trauma and little T trauma, right? Like if you went to war or there's some tragic incident that happened in your, in your life and your childhood or whatever versus like, you know, he, his example was, you know, maybe your uncle yelled at you for doing something stupid when you were a kid and you know, and that stuck with you. You know, and it's been affecting you all this time, subconsciously, that's like little t trauma kind of stuff. Lesley Logan 26:54  So, yeah. Yeah. So come on, take them up on that. You guys share this with a friend and until next time, Be It Till You See It.Brad Crowell 27:02  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 27:04  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod. Brad Crowell 27:47  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 27:52  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co. Brad Crowell 27:56  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi. Lesley Logan 28:03  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals. Brad Crowell 28:07  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. 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On Episode 746 of WHAT THE TRUCK?!?, Dooner is talking to OOIDA's Jay Grimes about his organization's pushback against AI and autonomous trucks. OOIDA has urged DOT to develop AV standards that are based on documented research and testing data. We'll find out all about their concerns. How do hotshot loads work? We're getting a crash course in Hotshot Trucking 101 from Diligent Delivery Systems' Richard Sharp. Sharp also shares his top tips for peak and hurricane season preparedness. Need equipment, parking, warehouse space, talent or 3PL services? Sourcifi's Tim Perkins talks about the power of building an interconnected network of providers. Plus, Ningbo port explosion hits trans-Pacific trade; freight in the Inc. 5000; Mountain Dew wheel covers; delivering a load of tourists to bears; and more. Watch on YouTube Check out the WTT merch store Visit our sponsor Subscribe to the WTT newsletter Apple Podcasts Spotify More FreightWaves Podcasts Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On Episode 746 of WHAT THE TRUCK?!?, Dooner is talking to OOIDA's Jay Grimes about his organization's pushback against AI and autonomous trucks. OOIDA has urged DOT to develop AV standards that are based on documented research and testing data. We'll find out all about their concerns. How do hotshot loads work? We're getting a crash course in Hotshot Trucking 101 from Diligent Delivery Systems' Richard Sharp. Sharp also shares his top tips for peak and hurricane season preparedness. Need equipment, parking, warehouse space, talent or 3PL services? Sourcifi's Tim Perkins talks about the power of building an interconnected network of providers. Plus, Ningbo port explosion hits trans-Pacific trade; freight in the Inc. 5000; Mountain Dew wheel covers; delivering a load of tourists to bears; and more. Watch on YouTube Check out the WTT merch store Visit our sponsor Subscribe to the WTT newsletter Apple Podcasts Spotify More FreightWaves Podcasts Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Send us a Text Message.In the 1980's, Elena Bartley our guest today was a company member of Dance Theater of Harlem, the most prestigious black ballet dance company in the world. As fortune would have it, Elena learned about the Contrology System AKA Pilates, from the company's executive director, Kathy Grant who was as many of you know, a disciple of Joe Pilates. After spending two decades as one of the company's soloists, Elena transitioned to teaching Pilates and brought with her a dancer's eye for detail and a passion for movement. She also studied with other first generation teachers, Ron Fletcher, Eve Gentry, Jay Grimes and Romana Kryzanowska who all informed Elena's teaching.About Darien Gold ~ https://www.dariengold.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/darien_gold_pilates_expertFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/dariengoldMusic credits ~ Instagram: @theotherjohnmayer About Elena Bartley ~ https://tupilates.videoSupport the Show.

Join Brad and Lesley as they revisit Kel Cal's life-changing takeaways and her powerful 2-part manifestation process, along with her thought-provoking insights on self-love, identity shifts, and overcoming limiting beliefs. Kel Cal, author of How I Cured My Resting Bitch Face: Your Guide to Stop Settling, Fall in Love with Yourself, and Create a Life You're Obsessed With and host of the Dear Dumb Bitch podcast, offers practical advice on integrating new habits into your daily life. Lesley also answers an audience question on the best breathing techniques during Pilates, filling this episode with transformative advice and actionable tips.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:Lesley answers how to properly breathe during Pilates exercises.Why you need to shift your identity and embody what you learned. Becoming the best version of yourself and who you desire to be.Creating opportunities today that make you feel stable and secure. The importance of allowing music to manifest your future dream self.Episode References/Links:OPC Summer ToureLevate Mentorship ProgramCambodia February 2025 RetreatOPC $40 for 40 DaysHow to Breath in Pilates?Kel Cal's WebsiteKel Cal's InstagramKel Cal's TIkTokHow I Cured My Resting Bitch Face BookDear Dumb Bitch Podcast  If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. DEALS! Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox Be in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy Webinar  Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable Pilates Follow Us on Social Media:InstagramFacebookLinkedIn  Episode Transcript:Brad Crowell 0:00  She said when we make that decision we get closer to a change, we get closer to the being what we're seeing for ourselves, we start being it when we start making that change today.Lesley Logan 0:11  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.  Lesley Logan 0:53  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the life-altering convo I had with Kel Cal in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that interview, feel free to pause this down, go back to listen that one and then come back and join us or you can listen to this one and then listen to that one. It's really great. Kel's awesome. She's a fabulous, fun woman and very interesting. Brad Crowell 1:14  Pretty determined.Lesley Logan 1:15  Very much so and I wish we had a reason to go to Bali right now so we can all go hang out and then we can talk her into coming to Cambodia. All right, before we get into the interview, we have a couple things first, Today is June 20th and it's almost Summer Solstice, which is tomorrow. And so if you're listening to this on Summer Solstice, hello, happy Summer Solstice Day. What does that mean? It is the longest day. Summer Solstice is observed on either June 20th, 21st or 22nd. But this year it falls on June 21st. The timing shifts because it depends on when the sun reaches its northernmost point from the celestial equator. Anyways, it's the start of summer I'm gonna be telling you, I've been telling you when it's summer already, so I'm clearly wrong. As a result, the days get shorter as summer progresses, first gradually but then at increasingly larger daily intervals as the September equinox approaches and ushers in the beginning of fall. Because the Sun travels across the sky in its most elongated path during the summer solstice, that day has the most daylight hours. So enjoy the longest day of the year, you guys and also, apparently, official day of summer. And apparently it's now only summer. You should tell that to the Vegas Sun.Brad Crowell 2:20  Yeah, right. I agree. But what do we got coming up?Lesley Logan 2:23  So we are, we are going into our OPC Summer Tour on August 4th and tickets are already selling very fast. Some locations are on top of their game, you guys. Brad Crowell 2:35  Yeah, watch out. Lesley Logan 2:36  We have some groupies who are hitting several locations. I love you ladies and I can't wait to party with you in multiple places. Like it's just like they may as well get in their vans and follow us around like how fun we can be like a group. Not a cult, a group. So yeah, we're a band. Opc.me/tour is where you get your tickets, 13 cities, Las Vegas, Salt Lake City, Denver, Lincoln, Nebraska, Minneapolis, Minnesota, Milwaukee, Chicago, Cleveland, Indy.Brad Crowell 3:14  I think we're doing Dayton in there.Speaker 1 3:16  Dayton? Oh, yeah. There's a 13th that I forget, Dayton, Indy, Lawrence, Kansas. St. Louis and Lawrence, Kansas? Brad Crowell 3:26  No.Lesley Logan 3:26  Kansas City.Brad Crowell 3:27  Before Kansas City, we go to St. Louis. We're not in Lawrence this year we're in Kansas City and then we go to Colorado Springs. Lesley Logan 3:35  And then we're done.Brad Crowell 3:35  That's right. Lesley Logan 3:36  And it's in like two weeks of days. So it's like Brad Crowell 3:39  15 or 16 days. Yeah, we're gonna be hit and clip, pretty quick clip.Lesley Logan 3:43  Some of these places only two or three hours apart from each other. Brad Crowell 3:46  Yeah, once we get to the true like, like, Midwest Midwest. We're gonna be couple of hours (inaudible).Lesley Logan 3:52  You know what, I heard people say, oh, but sometimes we lake it. Well, guess what? I'm not coming to Minneapolis, Minnesota or Milwaukee anytime soon. So you can go lake it the weekend before or the weekend after. Brad Crowell 4:04  That's right.Lesley Logan 4:04  You now know the dates in advance. Brad Crowell 4:06  Pilates at that weekend. Lake it another weekend. Lesley Logan 4:09  Yeah. And also, we might not even be there on a weekend. I'm not even sure what days were there. But it's on the sheet, opc.me/tour. So go check it out. Also, at the time that this is coming out, it is possible that eLevate applications are possibly happening. It's also possible that they're almost happening. But you should, you should check it out. Because we only open up these registrations once a year. We have hundreds of people who are interested (inaudible).Brad Crowell 4:32  I think, I think it's important to stress that there are hundreds of people on the waitlist. Lesley Logan 4:36  Yeah, I think the last time I checked it was like over 500.Brad Crowell 4:38  Yeah and so what this means and there are only 12 spots, okay, so yeah, in a group, so if you, if it's something that you've been thinking about doing, this is kicking off January of 2025. You know, right now what would happen is you'd be looking at a deposit, but then the money for the balance payment will be before the program kicks off at the end of the year or very early the beginning of next year. Lesley Logan 5:03  So unless you have time to pay and plan if you need to, save up, plan ahead with the schedule. So you can, you know, you can get things sorted.Brad Crowell 5:11  If you have no idea what eLevate is, and you're wondering what the heck we're talking about. Lesley Logan 5:13  Oh, they're probably wondering, it's my mentorship program.Brad Crowell 5:16  It's a nine-month program. Lesley Logan 5:18  Yeah and if you saw the OPC summer camp, we had a lot of eLevate grads. Brad Crowell 5:22  We sure did. Lesley Logan 5:23  In fact, almost all of them. Brad Crowell 5:24  Yeah, I think they were all. It was super, super fun. So during those nine months, you're going to do five weekend workshops, all virtual, all on Zoom, well, you will get to go through each of the different pieces of equipment, and Lesley's passing on the information she learned from her teacher, Jay Grimes. And, yeah, it's really an opportunity for her to sow into you and help you develop the confidence to teach anybody that comes through the door without having to worry about it, without having to spend a gazillion hours in prep time, without having to do class planning, without having to feel like you have to talk the entire time of the class. I mean, it's just dramatically changed the people who have gone through this program and it's a pretty small club. There's only been four rounds so far. Right? So you, you're going to be part of an amazing crew of incredible women. We're open to there being some men but there haven't been any men so far. So it's an amazing group (inaudible).Lesley Logan 6:17  Might be, might be in, might be in the next one I already have someone who's interested. So here we (inaudble).Brad Crowell 6:20  Love it. Amazing. So, go to lesleylogan.co/elevate. Lesleylogan.co/elevate.Lesley Logan 6:27  Yep and then our Cambodia February 2025 Retreat is filling up quickly. Brad Crowell 6:33  Sure is. Lesley Logan 6:33  So it's really exciting. February is an interesting time of year because it is after the rainy season has had not been happening for quite some time. And so the sunrises look different. The sunsets look different. The landscape looks different. The humidity levels are way different. And so if you go to Brad Crowell 6:52  crowsnestretreats.com Lesley Logan 6:55  crowsnestretreats, plural? Brad Crowell 6:56  Yeah. Lesley Logan 6:57  crowsnestretreats.com.Brad Crowell 6:59  That's right. Yeah. Anyway, February we Lesley Logan 7:02  There's some great women already signed up.Brad Crowell 7:04  Yeah, we got a really fun group. starting to come together here. I'm really, I'm really excited about that. If you were on the waitlist and you feel like you missed out, just reach out to me. We still would love to have you join us. Also, we would love for you to join us at OPC. OPC is onlinepilatesclasses.com. We have a, basically, a way you can try it out for 40 days for only 40 bucks.Lesley Logan 7:29  I know. At an OPC summer camp we found out that you can even buy a lemon for $1. But you can do Pilates or OPC for $1 a day.Brad Crowell 7:36  I did not know that. Lesley Logan 7:37  Yeah, they said that. They said they went to the store and there was not a single lemon that was under $1. And I was like, wow.Brad Crowell 7:44  So cheaper than 40 lemons, y'all. Lesley Logan 7:46  Yeah, yeah. And then you don't have to worry about them going bad. So, opc.me/40 is how you get that trial offer. Okay, we're about to get into the interview with Kel Cal. But first we have a question from one of our listeners. Brad Crowell 7:58  We sure do. Lily Bay from YouTube asked, "How do you know how to breathe in Pilates exercises?"Lesley Logan 8:05  Well, Lily Bay, the good news is we actually have a whole video where I explain the breath. So I'm not gonna go into as deep detail because we'll just link to that video below because it's actually many, many minutes long. But I want to give you permission that my teacher taught me he's like most, there's very few exercises where Joseph Pilates had very specific breathing. And most of the exercises, it was just important that you did breathe. And so don't hold your breath. Unless the exercise says to hold your breath at a certain time, like you will on the exercise called breathing you will hold your breath at specific times. But, all the other ones breathe in and out through your nose, take up space laterally with your ribs breathe into the lowest ribs in the back. And what that does is it allows your abdominals to stay connected and contracted. While you're still getting full deep breaths. You're still moving your diaphragm, but you're not letting your abs disengage and engage so that you can go through all these exercises. That's how you're going to breathe in all the Pilates exercises. But if you want to know more than that, go to our video on How to Breathe in Pilates on my YouTube channel.Brad Crowell 9:10  Yeah. Awesome. Great question. Thanks so much for asking. If you are interested in leaving us a question. You can DM us on the gram or you can text us at 310-905-5534. Anyway, reach out if you have questions. We'd love to answer your question on the pod and we'll be right back. Okay, now let's talk about Kel Cal. Kel Cal, a survivor of a toxic and unhappy marriage. That on paper looks really amazing. Cal deeply understands the importance of self-love. As the host of the Dear Dumb Bitch podcast she shares her journey of healing and self-discovery. Kel is also a life empowerment mentor, speaker and author of the book How I Cured My Resting Bitch Face: Your Guide to Stop Settling. And check it out, Lesley's holding it up for those who watch on YouTube. Get it closer here. Oh there it is. Go higher. Yeah. So oh, sorry, the title is actually much longer How I Cured My Resting Bitch Face: Your Guide to Stop Settling, Fall in Love with Yourself, & Create a Life You're Obsessed With. Her mission is to help people heal from their past, believe in their worthiness and become the best future version of themselves. I love that. This is a really intriguing conversation I, when I was walking in, when you're interviewing her, I walked in the only part of this that I walked in on was the, "And I trusted my intuition and then I moved to Bali." And I was like, oh my God, what is this interview going to be about? Right? And I was like, is this gonna be the wooest of the woo thing that I've ever heard? That wasn't what the interview was, like, at all. But that was like a hilarious just snippet for me to walk into. So, anyway.Lesley Logan 10:52  I know because well, that's because we met this one person. And we're like, oh, you live over in Boulder, like, what made you move there? My intuition and it's and then they just put a period on it and didn't finish the conversation. It's like, okay, so I don't really know how to content like (inaudible) are you here right now? (Inaudible) Are you like in this, but we're having a conversation. You know, so her sole purpose is her soul's purpose.Brad Crowell 11:17  That I thought was super cool. Lesley Logan 11:18  Yeah, I thought that was great. That's a great, that's great alliteration or whatever it is. And I also love that she talked about how we shift our identity, we take what we learn, and we actually embody it and embodiment is, it's actually taking these lessons and making them truly part of your being. And so like, which can sound a little bit like the definition was just used in a sentence. But here's the deal. Like, when you take something you've learned, and you integrate it into your life, it is, it is something you can take action on. And you're kind of almost using in your life, to make decisions to do different things. And so it's kind of like the intro to the show, it is like action brings clarity, it's the antidote to fear. Or, like I've said in the podcast before information without integration is constipation. When you take a lesson and you go through something, you learn it, you embody it, you are no longer like, constipated your move, it's moving through. It's actionable. I like that. So we also talked a lot about limiting beliefs and self-doubt, which I thought was really cool. I don't think I've had a lot of people share self-doubt on the pod in a while. So I thought it was really cool for someone to share their self-doubt. What do you love? Brad Crowell 12:28  Yeah. So she was talking about two times she had this major realization, the first time was in the toxic relationship, which she got away from. And then she moved. And she realized, after moving that, she was still like, super unhappy. And she said, wow, the common denominator here is me. So that means I have to go, you know, work on me, right? And then she started asking the question, what does that even mean? And she was like, well, maybe I'll do it later. And then she had this realization that like, actually later is, is kind of not real. First off, it's not easy to change the way that you see yourself, the expectations you have for yourself, or the habits that you do, it's not an easy thing to transition away from what we're used to. Like, it's, that's your worldview. It's literally how you view yourself. That's tough. She said, we have to become the version of ourselves now because the future doesn't even exist, right? Tomorrow doesn't exist. Because when it arrives, it's called today. You know, which is kind of, you know, she pointed those things out, it's pretty funny when you think of it in, in that context. But ultimately, what the point of this is, is we need to start making decisions and changes now. You got to do it now, right now in this moment because when we tell ourselves that we're going to do it in the future, or someday or down the road, that's not real. We can begin to become the version of ourselves, who we desire to be, today, right now. And she did give some actual practical advice on that and we're going to cover that in our Be It Action Items. But she said when we make that decision, we get closer to the change, we get closer to the being, what we're seeing for ourselves we start being it when we start making that change today. So I thought that was pretty cool.Lesley Logan 14:15  Yeah, she's really cool. I was on her podcast, Dear Dumb Bitch, which I actually thought was such a fun, such a fun name because sexually with lots of lovingkindness towards your, like, yourself. And she asked some really great questions you guys and she and I both read the same like morning books that like where you can journal on. So I highly recommend if you really like her, check out the episode I was on with her. And you can get to know more about her and myself and like what we're, what we're doing. It's really great.Brad Crowell 14:44  All right, so finally, let's talk about those Be It Action Items. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Kel Cal? She said, "We don't manifest what we want. We manifest what we are." I don't think I've ever heard this before. And I thought it was, was pretty cool. So, you know, I've heard a lot of people talk about manifestation. And like I have said numerous times on this podcast, I'm a one-woo guy.Lesley Logan 15:12  I feel like people are actually manifesting things all the time, even when they're not being intentional about based on what you just said. Because if you're a negative person, then you are manifesting negative shit. Like all the time, it's just happening.Brad Crowell 15:24  Yeah. And actually, you're bringing that negativity into your world, like, so you're manifesting who you are. You're a negative person, in that case, right. But she said she actually broke it down. She said, It's a two-part process. So the first part is to identify the emotions that you think you will feel once you have achieved or reached the things on your vision board. And I thought this was super cool. She specifically said, "Imagine you have a six-figure bank account. Why do we all want that? What is it about having a six-figure bank account that makes it the thing? It's security, it's an emotional stability, feeling of confidence of knowing that like, 'Oh, if everything hits the fan, I still have this bank account that can pay my bills for X amount of time.'" And she said, "Identify the emotions that you think you will feel once you have the things that are on your vision board and then create opportunities to begin to feel those emotions right now." So you want that six-figure back account, how will that make you feel? Start creating opportunities to feel what it's like to have stability and security in your life today. And I thought that was, that was actually pretty profound. Actually. I thought that was amazing. Lesley Logan 16:34  Yeah, I really liked I thought that was very tangible. Yes. The second part of the process is to pick a song and make it your Be It theme.Brad Crowell 16:43  Love this.Lesley Logan 16:44  Your Be It theme song.Brad Crowell 16:45  Yes and music is powerful. Lesley Logan 16:46  Yeah, because it's energy and energy carries a frequency, which also allows us to calibrate. So pick a song that really embodies the energy of how you want to feel in the future, play that song every single morning, it's important to do it in the morning, because it's easy to just have the day go on and on and you forget to actually do it. Feel the emotions that the song is allowing you to connect with. And that way you can have that energetic connection because that's how you are able to become a match for what it is that you desire. So you put your Be It theme song on in the morning, you allow that energy to take up your space and then you go on your day with that Be It energy and you'll, from the start of the day, you guys, this is amazing. You can make it your alarm clock music if you are not good at remembering how to play a song. But I bet you, you could tell your phone's name to play x song at x time in the morning every day. I'm sure it would. Brad Crowell 17:37  That's not a bad idea. I haven't thought about that.Lesley Logan 17:40  You try it, you guys, and you tell me how it goes. I mean, like we probably tell Google, "Hey Google, play blank song at this time in the morning, every day."Brad Crowell 17:51  Yeah, I mean, I think there's a Lesley Logan 17:53  I'm gonna play my Be It theme song when I am in the cold plunge. Brad Crowell 17:58  I think that's a great idea. Lesley Logan 18:00  Now I gotta figure out what my month, my theme song for this season is.Brad Crowell 18:04  That's really fun. I think that's a great idea. Lesley Logan 18:06  I love that.Brad Crowell 18:06  Because it's roughly three minutes, you know, the song, I mean, usually, and. Lesley Logan 18:11  By the time I hit the timer, then I get to the song, well, hopefully I'll get my phone to play the song at that time, and then I can just yell at my phone to play the song. And then I'll be in the water. And I'll be like, feeling though it goes through the water into me, this is amazing.Brad Crowell 18:25  Oh, geez. Here we go. It's gonna be good. Awesome. I love that. Yeah, I mean, I know. I know what it's like to be connected to music, obviously. And I know how much I enjoy when a song comes on that gets me super fired up. And yeah, I love this idea because it really does help anchor your day, set your mood, set your, you know, point you down the path of being excited and positive and hopeful and energetic and ready to go. So what an easy fun tip.Lesley Logan 19:00  Fun tip. You guys, tell Kel Cal what your takeaways were. Tell the Be It Pod. Get her book, How I Cured My Resting Bitch Face: Your Guide to Stop Settling, Fall in Love with Yourself, & Create a Life You're Obsessed With. Boom, you can get this on Amazon wherever books are sold. And you guys, I'm Lesley Logan.Brad Crowell 19:22  And I'm Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 19:22  Thank you so much for joining us today. We are so grateful for you. We hope this was really helpful in understanding manifestation and more about being until you see it. So make sure you share this with a friend and please leave us a review. If you haven't done that yet. Brad Crowell 19:35  Yeah, do it, do it. Lesley Logan 19:35  Do it. The last time I checked, we're almost at a hundred. You could be the 100th person. I know (inaudible) you don't win anything but you get to have been part of the growth of this podcast and that, that's winning my love, that's winning, you're putting that energy out into the world. So thank you so much and until next time, Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 19:50  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 19:52  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. 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Lesley and Brad reflect on Lesley's interview with Nick Hutchison, founder of BookThinkers and author of 'Rise of the Reader.' Discover Nick's inspiring journey from indifference to reading to becoming a passionate advocate for personal development books. Learn practical strategies for reading more effectively, including setting specific, measurable goals and integrating reading into your daily routine. Get actionable tips on how to read 20 books a year and retain valuable information, enhancing your personal and professional growth. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:Why feeling like an impostor is normal when starting something new.The value of audience engagement and feedback in the creative process.Importance of reading books that address specific problems or build skills.Set SMART goals in retaining and applying knowledge gained from books. Targeted reading to address and solve personal problems effectively.Episode References/Links:OPC Summer Camp - soOPC Summer TourBalanced BodyeLevate 2025 BookThinkers WebsiteBookThinkers InstagramRise of the ReaderThe Four Agreements by Don Miguel Ruiz  If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. DEALS! Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox Be in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy Webinar Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable Pilates Follow Us on Social Media:InstagramFacebookLinkedIn  Episode Transcript:Brad Crowell 0:00  He always asks them, "If I paid you $10,000, if you read this book in the next month, would you do it?" And of course they would say, "yeah, yeah, yeah, I would totally do it." And he said, "Great, I've caught you in my trap." And the trap is obviously prioritization. We don't prioritize reading, so we don't read, right?Lesley Logan 0:24  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.  Lesley Logan 1:06  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life Brad and I are going to dig in to the pragmatic convo I had with Nick Hutchison in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to this episode, you should. You should just listen to it. So listen in any order you want. Doesn't really matter to us. But go listen to Nick. He is incredible. He's amazing. He's also just like, really like, sweet, nice dude. And he, it's announced we can say, he is expecting his first kid.Brad Crowell 1:32  I didn't know that. That's exciting. Congratulations, Nick.Lesley Logan 1:35  Oh. Get on social. I know. Brad Crowell 1:37  Yeah, I'm all over that. (Inaudible)Lesley Logan 1:39  Well, he can do Dad's Club. He could do Vincent's Dad's Club. Yeah. Brad Crowell 1:39  Yeah. I'll connect the dots there, Nick. That's exciting. Lesley Logan 1:46  I love it. He didn't even ask for dad advice and I'm like you should do this thingBrad Crowell 1:50  Congratulations. You're going to get it. Lesley Logan 1:50  So today is May 30th. It is World MS Day. About this day, World Multiple Sclerosis Day, falling on May 30th, invites dialogue on the disease. Multiple sclerosis, MS, is a relapse-remitting disease with a very slow progression. MS is also known as encephalomyelitis disseminata and its symptoms include muscle weakness, double vision and mental physical problems due to lack of research studies on the disease. The exact causes behind it are generally unknown. Many scientists believe that there might be connected to the onset of the disease and genes or nerve-cell dysfunction. Furthermore, there's no permanent cure yet. The symptoms can be relieved using the right set of treatments and medication. I just want to like shout out because there's actually been a lot of talk about this. Selma Blair, I believe, did a docu-series or documentary about this. She's been very vocal about it. Christina Applegate is now in a cane. And she, I believe, has to stop acting because of it and like she had a really amazing show, even up until very recently.Brad Crowell 3:00  We just met someone in Phoenix PLT who has MS.Lesley Logan 3:05  Yeah. Jack Osbourne has it. Montel Williams and Jamie-Lynn Sigler. There's actually more. There's, I'm gonna see if there's anyone you might know. But there's Tamia Hill, David lLnder, Walter Williams, Jonathan Katz, Janice Dean, Richard Pryor, Neil Cavuto, Trevor Bayne. So there's a ton more. I'm sure there's more. The only reason I brought these people up is like, you might have like, loved them for a long time and wonder what they're doing. And the truth is, is that this is a really hard and really sad thing that we have no information on, there's not a lot of treatments or studies being done on it, and it's a real shame. So anyways, but shout out to Selma Blair for the work that she's been doing to draw attention to it. So what do we got coming up? Okay. OPC Summer Camp is like this weekend. It is this weekend, not like, it is this weekend. Brad Crowell 3:56  It is May 30th. That means we're looking at two days from now is June 1st.Lesley Logan 4:03  Yes. So Brad and I will have our blue blockers along (inaudible). We are going to have to go to bed early tomorrow night, Brad, because you have to get up super early on Saturday. We are it's all hands on deck because it is just like Zoom. Like it's seven Zooms a day, seven different links, seven different teachers each day. Different groups of people, some people have day pass, some people have bought ala carte, so we have to be on top of everything. As a camp directors that we are, and we have 13 other camp counselors and just an incredible lineup of events for you. This is the biggest thing we've ever done online and we really hope you join us because it's, it's really it's all about the Pilates practitioner. You do not have to be a teacher to join these. And if you can't join us live you get to have the replays. So buy them anyways.Brad Crowell 4:48  That's right. I think that's the key. If you can't join us live, you get to keep the replays. Lesley Logan 4:53  Yeah, so opc.me/events is how you get your tickets before we go live. Okay, after that we're actually going to head out on tour. OPC Summer Tour. We're headed to the Midwest, y'all. We're hitting cities. We just pretty much skip over all the time. And so, Chicago. I'm looking at Yale. Brad Crowell 5:13  Milwaukee. One of the Twin Cities.Lesley Logan 5:14  Milwaukee. Yes. One of the Twin Cities. Brad Crowell 5:15  We're actually looking atLesley Logan 5:18  Indy.Brad Crowell 5:19  Yeah, sure.Lesley Logan 5:19  We have something in Denver. I mean, we go to Denver all the time, but we're going to, we're going to Denver. Colorado Springs. We are looking at Indy. I think we talked to someone. Brad Crowell 5:31  We're potentially gonna be in Cincinnati. We're looking at that. Lesley Logan 5:34  Yeah. So at any rate, lots of places. I think there's like 12 cities over the two weeks.Brad Crowell 5:40  We're gonna kick it off in Vegas. So we just added a 13th. Lesley Logan 5:42  Oh, hello, Vegas. Hi, for the love, thanks for being our kickoff location and sending us off on the way. So anyways, it's gonna be a lot of fun. Our headlining sponsor is Balanced Body, that means goodies, and you know, you're gonna get certificate towards buying that piece of equipment you've always wanted. And if you use my link, you get the discount. So boom, extra credit. Okay, then another thing that's happening as we speak now, but in June, hopefully open up the doors to eLevate for 2025. And I know that sounds a little early, but the reality is, is that the mentorship is a nine-month program. There's five weekends, I like to give people plenty of time to get their schedule ready, get ready for it, plan for it, and also be able to pay for it. So it is an investment and I don't take that lightly. So if you are wanting to learn more about eLevate if you want to, if you already know you want to do it, we only take 12 people in a round, you want to go to lesleylogan.co/ew. And by the way, my name is spelled L-E-S-L-E-Y L-O-G-A-N (lesleylogan.co/ew) That means eLevate waitlist.Brad Crowell 6:45  If you missed all that and we still have spots left, just reach out to us. If you want to join us.Lesley Logan 6:51  We don't know if we have spots left because we're recording in theBrad Crowell 6:51  We're recording ahead of time.Lesley Logan 6:55  Ahead of time. Brad Crowell 6:57  But yes, let's shift over to the audience question. So this is from schonliving on Instagram, I'm building my hours towards my Pilates mat certification and I find teaching group classes is much harder than one-on-one. Any tips to overcoming the fear, insecurity, anxiety and the form of impostor syndrome that I'm experiencing from being in front of a group class?Lesley Logan 7:24  Yeah, so schonliving, let me, okay, I love this question. First of all, a lot of people even say that they prefer a class to a private and that's because in the class they like it's kind of chaotic, and they, they don't have, there's a lot going on. So no one will notice that they might be nervous and on a one-on-one people can sense it. So I love that you are so confident on your one-on-ones it's actually quite hard to do. So I would say you're winning. The second thing I would just say is if you find you have imposter syndrome and you're new at anything, so this is for anyone, if you're new at something, you should feel like an imposter. You are new at it. If you didn't feel nervous. You are an egomaniac, narcissistic person who should probably go get like, like checked out. So anyway, here's what I will say is if you haven't listened to last week's episode goes into my my answer on cueing, you are new, you are not going to have it all figured out. You are going to have been a little nervous. What I would say first of all, the thing that I always do when I step into something that makes me nervous, I could just go, it's showtime and I be it till I see it. How would you act if you already were feeling confident teaching group classes? How would you act? How would you hold yourself? Like how would you welcome people into your class? How would you? How would you greet the class? How would you start the class? What is your speech for the class? How would you end the class, right? Don't worry about Brad Crowell 7:24  Yeah, you just be it till you see it.Lesley Logan 8:43  Yeah, don't worry about what you're gonna say in the middle of class. What are the in cast that you can control that you want to say to invite people into a space that you're in control of? Okay, so that's first and foremost. Second, my teacher Jay Grimes would say bad Pilates, get used to it. Dangerous Pilates, never. I always translate that to ugly Pilates, get used to it. Dangerous Pilates, never. When you're teaching a bunch of people who have different learning styles and different abilities of paying attention, it's gonna be a hot mess. So you need to look at a class and like be able to spot danger and correct that. Anything in between danger and perfect, just let it be. Okay? It will, they need to come back and they will get better. So that'd be my other thing. And the next thing is, is that people become teachers and in weekends now, like literally in a weekend or months, maybe showing that you, you've been doing this for a year, I don't know. But something tells me probably not. My teacher would say you're not really a teacher till I've been teaching for five years. And so just teach as many people as you can.Brad Crowell 9:54  Not in a judgment way. But the reality is there's so much to process and dots to connect and you know, just understanding plus you have to, you should be feeling it in your own body, too. You know, so it just takes time, y'all. It takes time.Lesley Logan 10:09  A lot of questions and worries and concerns you have they kind of answer themselves, the more you teach. So what I would say is get some friends together that love you. And to say I need to practice teaching a class and just teach them and they in return should give you testimonials. That's what they should do. That is, but that's going to help you but your goal, of course you're gonna feel nervous. You obviously care about doing well. So that says to me, nervous energy, and impostor syndrome just shows that you care and that you're brand new at something. You would never let a client go, oh, I can't do the 100 on day one. Because (inaudible).Brad Crowell 10:14  You would laugh at them and say, of course you can't. Lesley Logan 10:49  You're new. Brad Crowell 10:50  You just started.Lesley Logan 10:51  So my dear, of course you are nervous. You're new. And so for anyone who does teach Pilates, all this stuff applies to everything you want. You got to be it till you see it. How would you act if you already knew how to do the thing? And second of all, if you're beginner, kindness and graciousness and patience with yourself.Brad Crowell 11:09  Yeah, to yourself with yourself. Exactly. Yeah, great question. Okay. Now let's talk about Nick Hutchison. Nick Hutchison is the founder of BookThinkers, a company dedicated to helping authors promote and market their books. Initially indifferent to reading, Nick's outlook transformed in his early 20s after discovering the transformative power of personal development books. Today, as he's a lifelong learner, he has penned Rise of the Reader and podcast host of BookThinkers, Life Changing Books, his work across various platforms provides valuable strategies for implementing the lessons learned from books into everyday life.Lesley Logan 11:51  Yeah, he's cool. I really, I really enjoy him. I was on his podcast, BookThinkers, by the way. Brad Crowell 11:59  He's the nicest dude. Lesley Logan 11:59  Just really nice, very thoughtful. He's very perceptive. He listens. And he integrates it, he analyzes it, and he puts it out. It's just really wonderful. Get his book, you guys, if you are reading books, so that we're talking about on the podcast, and like, I'm not retaining enough, get his book. It's so, so, so good. It's been so helpful. Based off of his book, he taught a little mini version of it to us at the BBG event we went to, and I found that I took less tasks home, because I was like, the only thing I have to do is this thing, I'm only here for this thing, this is my intention for the next few days. And I really listened to a lot of things I was like, That's a great idea, not mine, that's a great idea, not mine, I left going, I just have these three things I'm going to do when I leave, and it's only been three, it's like two. And I'm really, really happy about it, because it's just great. So go get his book. Brad Crowell 12:47  Love that. Lesley Logan 12:48  One of the things I love he said that don't assume what your audience wants. And we mentioned the four agreements.And so the four Agreements, in case you've not read the book is don't take anything personally, don't make assumptions. The other two are be honorable with your word. If you say you're gonna do it, do it. And then there's a fourth one, always do your best. He said, don't assume what they want, ask them what they want. And then they should be brought along with you. Too often, a lot of people who are in this, maybe you're not wanting to write a book, but maybe you want to create a product or on-demand course or have an event. Most people protect it, hold it preciously to themselves. And then they're like, I get it. Here it is, here's the thing I made for you. But you didn't get any feedback along the way. So they weren't part of building it with you, which means they're not invested in the thing that you're excited about. And you didn't get the feedback along the way to know that they would want blue over green. Brad Crowell 13:35  Well, you guys both used personal experiences to relay, relay this obviously, the the first launch of Agency. You know, there was a lot of emotions tied up in that flop and also a shit ton of hours to spending time to like make this thing actually come together. And then Nick laughed and said, oh, I did that. He built an entire app. And he spent hundreds of hours and tens of thousands of dollars to build this app and nobody used it. And that's because we were making assumptions prior to rolling the thing out and then what you talked about with the flashcards was when you were rolling out the second reformer deck, you share the process along the way. And it got people that much more excited that much more excited. And it was it was considerably more of a powerful experience and launch for people than the first deck. Lesley Logan 14:31  Well, we were just at Pilates on tour in Phoenix. And this one girl is like, oh, I'm on the waitlist for the barrels and I'm like, oh, thank you so much. And I went to update her she's like, oh, I got the email. You're in the editing process right now. And she was so excited. So like take them on the journey because they actually get excited with you. They want to know what's going on. Like it was really cool and we hopefully by the time this comes out, it's on presale, because were obviously recording earlier, but it is part of it. And I can't recall if we've ever talked about this on here, but I'm just gonna bring it up in case you missed the episode. You know, we were at the Soho House couple days where we saw Nick in person last month. And this guy was just like how do you get people to wait for things. And it's really not about waiting for things. It's also about buying things. He was bringing up waiting, but to me how I think about how purchasing power you all listening have the purchasing power, every single one of you. You determine if something is successful or not. So you need to know that in everything that you buy, you actually give feedback based on your dollars. Okay, you've voting dollars, like you have a lot of different things you can think about with your money. And I, I shared that I bring people on the journey, I get them excited, I tell them the process behind the thing. And eight years ago, I might not have done that because I might have been like oh my God they're going to take my idea. They're going to be able to do it. Now they know how to do it. Here's the thing. And Nick and I talked about this. James Altucher says that less than 2% of people, yeah, less than 2% of people actually take action on any idea, let alone yours. And being part of the process makes them want to do it. So at any rate, I really love that he brought that up. I think it's useful not just for authors, but for anyone creating anything anywhere. What did you love that he said?Brad Crowell 16:14  I really loved when he was talking about the different reasons that people use excuses, justifications that people use why they don't read. He was talking about, I'm so busy or in a company, I've got a family, you know, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And he he always asks him, if I paid you $10,000 if you read this book in the next month would you do it? And of course, they would say yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I would totally do it. And he said, great, I've caught you in my trap. And the trap is, is obviously prioritization. We don't prioritize reading so we don't read, right? And his book is pretty cool in that it gives some practical advice on how to read 20 books a year by doing 15 minutes a day, which is 1% of your day. If you, if you do that, you're going to put yourself on track to read those 20 books a year. And he basically said, listen, it's not a question of whether or not we can read the books. It's a question of whether or not we value it enough. Right? It's about picking books that solve problems and build skill sets. And so you know, you know, whether you read as an escape, like, you know, to like to step away from the crazy hectic that you have, or you read to learn. When you're picking up a book for, especially for the learning, the rest of his book helps you actually apply and retain and apply the information that you're learning from that book.Lesley Logan 17:55  Yeah, I mean, I actually do like that you said that. We had another guy who said like, what if I told you if I pay you a million dollars to lose 50 pounds overnight could you do it? And he went like 50 pounds overnight? And he said, sure you could. You could have a leg off. Right? He's like, not ideal, but you could, right? And I Brad Crowell 18:12  He did say that and I was like I heard, he did say that. That's true. Lesley Logan 18:17  There's always a way. And I think it is, you know, like really asking yourself what you're prioritizing. And I think we talked about this in the episode which is like, you know, your entertainment time? Like, how much of it are you watching? Like Netflix? What if you just took a little bit of it, like a little portion of your entertainment time and read a book? That could solve the problem.Brad Crowell 18:35  Well, I laughed when he said, Yeah, it was working for this guy who suggested that I take my drive time, my 10 hours of drive time and start listening to podcasts. And I started taking notes on the pods, then decided to implement some of the strategies on the pods. And later, that same boss was like, wait, hold on. So now you're reading books, you're taking notes on the books, and then you're actually taking that advice and implementing it into your life. And he said, Nick, that's weird. He said nobody does that. That's amazing.Lesley Logan 18:37  He was using it in his job and it was making him way better at his job. And his own boss was like, what? How do you know this? How do you do this? So like it can, if you want to differentiate yourself, like it's not about being like 10 years ahead of some people sometimes just being a little bit ahead and that knowledge is that kind of power. So yeah.Brad Crowell 19:26  It's true. Brad Crowell 19:27  All right, welcome back. So finally, let's talk about those Be It Action Items. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Nick Hutchison? He said, set a SMART goal for each of the books that you read. We've talked about SMART goals before. SMART stands, it's an acronym, stands for specific, measurable, attainable, relevant and time-bound goals. Right? So specific, measurable, measurable meaning what's not measured can't really be managed. So set goals that are measurable, attainable. Set a realistic goal, trying to consume too much of an unrealistic goal makes you, it allows procrastination to creep in because it doesn't seem attainable. Then, relevant. You emotionally connect to the information. What does this book going to do for you? Ask yourself why am I actually reading this book and then time-bound. Give yourself an actual deadline to take actions on what you're learning in that book. Or for some of us, it might just be a timeout action to read the damn thing in the first place. Right? So he also includes writing down intentions on the inside cover of the book that you own and then reviewing it every time you read another chapter. So what are your intentions for this book, finished chapter two, go back and read your intentions. finished chapter three, read your intentions, finished chapter four. I think it's a really interesting way to stay focused on what you're trying to get out of the book. And you know, instead of just being like, I'm reading the book, I got through the book. Okay, next. I got through that book, too. I got through this book, too. No, you're actually anchoring, what you're learning against what your intentions for that book were. Pretty cool. Lesley Logan 21:08  Or I think, also, if you, like some books might have several things you can learn from them. But if you stick with one intention, you can always go back through. And like read it with a different intention. Yeah, yeah. But this way, you can actually not just take in information, you can integrate what you're learning, because you're not taking on too much information at one time.Brad Crowell 21:24  I love it. What about you? Lesley Logan 21:25  Okay, he said do a little personal edit, find a problem that you're dealing with and identify the problem and then go there and find a book that can help you solve it correctly. So he said, a lot of us won't do this. He's a warrant. If you don't fix it over the next 30 years, you'll experience that problem almost 11,000 more times. So. Brad Crowell 21:42  It's pretty insane. Lesley Logan 21:43  It's insane. But it's true. Because if you think of like, we have like 60,000, or whatever the amount of thoughts per day, and like 80% of them are like the same thought, because you haven't solved the problem. And you're just like rerunning that in your head. So I would just say, a lot of times people ask for advice on like, what books should I be reading? But yes, you could ask others for that. That could be very helpful. But if you first identify the problem, you might like the book that you pick up first better because it's about you. And we only care about solving our own problems. So there it is. Brad Crowell 22:15  Yeah, yeah. Lesley Logan 22:16  Anyways, Nick is awesome. Just you can actually follow him on Instagram and get really great book advice. You could you can also listen to his podcast BookThinkers to get really great ideas on like, what's a book that can solve a problem that you want to solve? So check him out and let us know what your favorite parts were. Share this with a friend if you've got a friend who's like saying they want to read more. That's a really good episode. Help them understand how they can do that and prioritize that reading goal. And until next time, you guys, I'm Lesley Logan.Brad Crowell 22:41  And I'm Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 22:42  Thank you so much for listening. How are you going to use these tips in your life, share with us, share with a friend and until next time, Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 22:48  Bye for now.Lesley Logan 22:50  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day.  Lesley Logan 23:17  Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod. Brad Crowell 23:32  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 23:37  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co. Brad Crowell 23:42  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi. Lesley Logan 23:49  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals. Brad Crowell 23:52  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. 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Bryce Mongeon of OOIDA explains how a measure in the U.S. House would give the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration more power to crack down on fraudsters. Also, what are the actual figures regarding underride crashes involving large trucks? OOIDA's Jay Grimes offers an update on the debate. And OOIDA's advocacy counsel, Paul Torlina, discusses broker-carrier agreements. Then, OOIDA tour truck driver Marty Ellis is a big supporter of various trucking charities. One he regularly gives to – Truckers Final Mile – helps families during one of the most difficult times in their lives. 0:00 – Bill targets rampant fraud in trucking  10:23 – Underride debate rages on at committee 25:17– The red flags in broker-carrier agreements 40:25 – A group that helps trucking families in their worst moment

FMCSA is undertaking a project to alert the general public about sharing the road with large trucks. OOIDA's Jay Grimes has the details. Also, Norita Taylor and Nikki Johnson of OOIDA discuss the Association's work to help support U.S. troops overseas and at home. And ELDs have long been unpopular – due in part to their inflexibility. Marty Ellis says some truckers are trying to cope in a not-so-proper way, and one weigh station has figured that out. 0:00 – Newscast  10:22 – OOIDA's efforts to help support the troops 24:59 – FMCSA to cars: Time to share the road 40:23 – Weigh station figures out ELD shenanigans

Tyson Fisher brings us an update on the truck parking crisis, including plans for tens of thousands of paid truck parking spaces nationwide. Also, Sylvia Dodson, Mike Schermoly and Jay Grimes discuss how taking part in Mission: Military Appreciation can benefit truckers as well as our troops. And Colorado lawmakers have finished work on a bill that would change chain laws, left lane rules and speed enforcement in the state. 0:00 – Newscast  10:22 – A mission that helps truckers as well as the troops 24:59 – Will the free market solve truck parking? 40:23 – Big changes to truck rules may be coming to Colorado

Brad and Lesley unpack the fascinating story of Ashley Black and the FasciaBlaster, a revolutionary tool designed for cellulite reduction and fascia health, inspired by Ashley's own struggle with juvenile rheumatoid arthritis. They delve into the scientific research and investment behind the FasciaBlaster, exploring its proven benefits for overall physical wellbeing. Join them as they reveal how this invention is transforming the narrative around body care and in embracing a healthier lifestyle.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:How FasciaBlaster was developed and its groundbreaking impact on connective tissue health.Understand the significant investment and scientific research behind the FasciaBlaster's efficacy.The holistic benefits of fascia care beyond cellulite reduction, including pain relief.Insights into the importance of combining business integrity with scientific validation.Episode References/Links:Use this link to get 40% off our FasciaBlaster® fascia regenerating kitFree Mat ChallengeThe Accelerator Workshop Summer CampAshley Black Website  If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. DEALS! 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And she kept looking around for the fascia expert and the fascia expert and the fascia expert until she finally was like, I think maybe I'm the fascia expert because what the hell no one else is talking about this.Lesley Logan 0:20  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.  Lesley Logan 0:58  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to talk about the holistic convo I had with Ashley Black in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that one, you should freaking go back and listen to that one, holly freaking molly, can we just have a moment? Ashley Black was in the Be It Pod. You guys, this person is a badass businesswoman who is, who like invested so much in something that she believed in. Then she and I had an amazing conversation off the record where she, because we're both, she actually is a Pilates instructor from trained before me and we were talking about different things where she had people wanted her to do magazine articles where she would do something and she's like I don't teach like that, so I'm not going to do it. So I just love her integrity. Love her character. Ashley Black, I love you. I can't wait to see you in Costa Rica, babe. You can teach me to surf even though I don't love seaweed touching my feet. But I'll do it for you.Brad Crowell 2:02  Blast your baiting all day long.Lesley Logan 2:02  You wanted to say that so bad. If you want to know what that references, you have to go listen to the episode. I'm just saying. Also, can I just say, if you are wanting to blast your bait if you just want to like blast your fascia out, we have an affiliate link and I'm really really, really, really excited to share that because it's not something they do and we have it.Brad Crowell 2:29  We do. It's pretty fucking cool.Lesley Logan 2:31  But before we get into that, you guys, it is National Sock Monkey Day and that means you need to give your old socks a new lease on life as we mark Sock Monkey Day. And Brad was like,Brad Crowell 2:43  I don't even know what a sock monkey is.Lesley Logan 2:45  So I don't know how you don't know what a sock monkey is because a sock monkey is kind of like a poor stuffed animal. Brad Crowell 2:52  Oh, I had one of these. Lesley Logan 2:53  Yeah, it's like when you're well I think a lot of stores  Brad Crowell 2:56  But I might have a little, the little red pompom on the top. Lesley Logan 2:58  Yeah, so I think a lot of stores will sell them overpriced but the theory isBrad Crowell 3:03  Mine was like beans inside or something. Lesley Logan 3:05  You like make your own. If you shout like raise your hand if you're listening to this and you're like oh, I made my own. I also made my own pet rock. I also did not ever get Kraft Mac And Cheese I got the knockoff version with knockoff hotdogs in it it was called protein guys.Brad Crowell 3:21  Knockoff hotdogs. You didn't even have hotdogs?Lesley Logan 3:24  Well, like the, not the store brand. Not the store brand. I didn't, no one bought me a sock monkey I had to make my own sock monkey.  Brad Crowell 3:31  Yeah, I feel like I feel like mine was an heirloom I think that was like my grandfather's or something my great grandfather's and it was like in the family. Like my mom was really protective over Lesley Logan 3:42  You know, I think it's probably one of those boxes that you're supposed to go through while you're home. So I'm not sitting there in that situation. Anyways, also coming up, you guys, currently, in this moment.Brad Crowell 3:53  In this moment. Lesley Logan 3:54  In this moment. Brad Crowell 3:55  I love me.Lesley Logan 3:56  I feel like that's a Shania Twain song. In this moment. Is that, is it Shania Twain or Celine Dion? Anyways, there's a free mat challenge happening for you. You can go to opc.me/challenge and you can start it today you can start at the moment you hear this. If you're listening this and it's a year from now you can start it because guess what, my team keeps that shit up and it is free. Brad Crowell 4:19  Evergreen.Lesley Logan 4:20  It starts when you start it but the best time to start it is today just like planting a tree, the best time last week when it started but also today's a good time.Brad Crowell 4:29  The best time, 30 years ago.Lesley Logan 4:31  The best time, your grandparents generation they fucked up, blame them. But at any rate, you can you can change the world by going to OPC.me/challenge.Brad Crowell 4:45  OPC.me/challenge.Lesley Logan 4:45  And enjoy four weeks of accountability and frickin' amazing mat classes. Also, we have an accelerator event Brad, why don't you take this one over? Brad Crowell 4:55  Yeah, we do. I'm really excited to share we're starting a new, a new, we're starting a new offer for Profitable Pilates. We have a workshop called Accelerating Your Studio Growth. And so we're calling it The Accelerator. And in that we're gonna go through the accel formula. But the whole goal of that Lesley Logan 5:22  How do you spell accel in this?Brad Crowell 5:24  A-C-C-E-LLesley Logan 5:25  That's right, that's how you know. (Inaudible) Accel.Brad Crowell 5:33  It works. It works.Lesley Logan 5:35  You know, I love the framework. And just so we all are clear, the sound you're hearing underneath me is a dog with a bone. We're just gonna let it be. Brad Crowell 5:35  Yeah, if you can hear that, that's August. Lesley Logan 5:45  I feel you can because I can feel it to my chair. Lastly, so where do they go for the (inaudible)? Brad Crowell 5:50  Yeah, sorry, I wasn't finished. So the accel formula, basically, what that covers is we're going to really dig into how do you connect with people in your community, bring them into your space, win them over so that they become a long-term client, and then empower them to be your voice in the community. Lesley Logan 6:16  They could be a sneezer. That's what Seth Godin calls them, sneezers. Brad Crowell 6:19  He does, he calls them sneezers I'm gonna call them accelerators because we got a theme going.Lesley Logan 6:26  Today, I went on our community babe. And I almost booked myself a pop-up class without even trying. So you guys, these things he's going to teach you in this workshop. Brad Crowell 6:36  You just gotta be out and about meeting people and there are strategies to it. Lesley Logan 6:40  And by the way, I'm an introvert, like, like high functioning, but like through and through. So you can do this, if you're an introvert. It's strategies that do work. Brad Crowell 6:49  Yeah. And you know, what will be, you know, it's going to be some high-level concepts, and then some action items, actionable items that you can immediately take. Because, you know, I mean, obviously, for those of you who are familiar with Agency, this is like just one part of the bigger picture and so we're going to be hosting that. So get yourself on the waitlist for The Accelerator, it is going to be profitablepilates.com/upcoming, profitablepilates.com/upcoming. Lesley Logan 7:19  Okay. And then lastly, real super quick. Brad's going to tell me the link to this because I forgot but we have summer camp coming up and I'm actually working on right now in the lineup of workouts and workshops, there'll be C team and I'm hoping a few good friends are going to be taking over the first weekend of your June and just giving you all the Pilates you ever wanted. Brad Crowell 7:42  Ever wanted. Lesley Logan 7:43  Ever, ever, ever, ever. I personally have raised my hand to do a ladder barrel workout. That's right. So anyways, you heard it here first. So you're gonna go to I think it's opc.me/workshops opc.me/workshops plural, my friends opc.me/workshops. It says get notified for upcoming workshops, get on the waitlist and you see all of my amazing deets on there. So there you go. Okay, before we get into the Ashley Black recap, which I can't wait to dive in and share our thoughts all about this. We have an audience question to respond to. Yes, Brad? Brad Crowell 8:24  Yeah, we sure do. This is from @-3-R-D-T-W-I-R-L-4-9-4 on YouTube. Lesley Logan 8:32  Third Twirl 494, Brad, Third Twirl.Lesley Logan 8:32  That's what it is. Third twirl. Lesley Logan 8:34  From YouTube. Brad Crowell 8:40  So, 3-R-D third. Hi, can I ask your opinion on something, please? I'm considering an intense, full comprehensive classical course. What questions should I ask to prepare myself? I've been teaching for 13 years already but my clients are pre postnatal. I'm looking at this at 54. And I wanted a bit of boost of a boost and motivation to build more classes. Thank you. I'm just a bit scared. And I want to make sure I can handle it. Lesley Logan 9:08  Yeah, so I love this question. Because for the part where like, I'm a bit scared and wonder if I could handle it. Part of me was wondering is like she thinking that her age is based on like, can she handle a classical program? Or is she thinking like timewise can she handle a classical program? So here's what I'm gonna say, 3rdTwirl494, I have a book that the first couple of chapters are actually full of questions that you should ask any training program you're considering using. And that goes for anybody who's thinking about being a teacher or is already a teacher, but something I would say to people who are already teachers, if you are wanting to learn a different modality in the teaching, I highly recommend looking for a bridge masters or mentorship. So, bridge master, mentorship, they all equal the same thing. It's just marketing terms. I have a mentorship, that's what I call it, I call it mentorship because I do believe that I, you are hiring me to be a mentor for over nine months and beyond. Oh, it's like infinity and beyond. Nine months and beyond because it's nine months together in a group with me and then you graduate to the alumni group, and you have access to me, for always, but if you're already a teacher, and you want to learn another modality for you, you want to learn classical Pilates. If you join a classical training for new teachers, it's going to feel weird because you have 13 years of experience, but you're learning a new thing. The people around you are like, oh, my God, she's 13 years of experience so they act weird around you. well,Brad Crowell 10:43  And not only that, it's the basics, right? So they're like, "And lift your arm over your head," you're like, ah, been there. Lesley Logan 10:50  Yeah. So I recently had a call with someone who was choosing between my mentorship and another program and they chose the other program. And it's a dear friend of mine. So like, they're in great hands. But if you already are teaching, and you're learning in a group where you're learning to teach, it's going to feel somewhat remedial, and overwhelming. Way better to be in a group of already trained teachers because there's a there's different questions that you could ask and you can get different answers that don't go over the heads of the other people in the group. And you can really also dialogue with the other people in your group. So you actually get to have some really great friendships. I know that the master's program, the first master's program I did I had made some really, really great friendships with the people who are already teachers, because we got to go, okay, this is what I learned before this is what I'm going to learn now, here's what I'm going to do. And then when I did the mentorship that I did with with Jay Grimes, I'm still friends with those people they all been teaching for you had to be teaching for more than five years to be in that program. So anyways, I highly recommend that you look for a program that's already for teachers versus a new program because you've been teaching for so long. Lastly, can you handle it? Do you think you can handle it better when you're older? When you have more "time" (in air quotes". No. I mean, like, if you want to learn classical, yes, you should do a bridge or a masters or mentorship. Brad Crowell 12:09  This all makes me think of something that you should definitely check out called eLevate. Lesley Logan 12:17  Oh, yes. Brad Crowell 12:18  Because Lesley actually has a master's program that she's been hosting for the last few years now. We've had dozens of people going through the program, and we are opening enrollment for 2025 already because 2024 has kicked off and it's happening. So if you if it's something you want to check out, you know, just reach out to us or go to Lesleylogan.co/elevate and we can get you. You know, we can secure your spot now. So, yeah, go check it out. Great question. Thank you for asking. If you have a question, and you want us to chit chat about it, or surmise or give you a straight answer. Just ping us anywhere. Lesley Logan 13:03  Clearly, anywhere. We find them.Brad Crowell 13:06  Yeah, anywhere. Lesley Logan 13:07  It's like ask us anything. Ask me a question. You can do it here, here here. She actually changed it. You can email her but I clearly grabbed her from everywhere.Brad Crowell 13:16  Okay, now let's talk about Ashley Black. Ashley Black, inspired by her personal struggle with juvenile rheumatoid arthritis leveraged her 30 years of experience in fascia research to invent the FasciaBlaster, a groundbreaking tool designed to enhance connective tissue health and regeneration. She has authored the number one bestselling book on fascia, while also pioneering the first documented ultrasound evidence of fascia regeneration in peer-reviewed research.Lesley Logan 13:47  Do you know how much it cost to do peer-reviewed research? Brad Crowell 13:50  I looked at this research facility that she mentioned. Lesley Logan 13:52  She spent $2 million.Brad Crowell 13:54  2 million bucks y'all. And these guys are like legit, you know.Lesley Logan 13:58  And by the way, $2 million doesn't mean you get to be involved in the research. Brad Crowell 14:02  Oh, no, no. Lesley Logan 14:02  You're not involved at all. They just do it.Brad Crowell 14:04  She was definitely I mean, she obviously was confident in what she was doing. But you know, they could have come back and been like yeah, none of this is real. Lesley Logan 14:12  Thanks for your $2 million.Brad Crowell 14:14  Yeah, thanks for your 2 million bucks, you know, but they did not they came back and said yeah, this is legit so good for her. That's really exciting. Yeah, and you know, now you can blast your bait all you want.Lesley Logan 14:29  Dear Lord. And so I really love this okay, so I'm going to be really honest like I, if you know me, you know, like, I am all about, like, beautiful bodies at every size like 1,000% and I have like, I do love the body that I have, like I really do. But I have not really enjoyed, like some cellulite that I have. And I've just been really frustrated and I saw like I saw one of her ads where she's sitting there in a bathing suit with nothing and I was like, wait, hold on a second. Wait a minute. And then I was like, am I am I being superficial? Like, am I being like, am I anti-body positivity? Like, I'm just gonna be really honest, like, these are all the things that I thought about when I looked this up, and one of my dearest friends who's been on the show several times, who's a functional medicine doctor and a western medicine doctor was like, oh, Ashley Black has these amazing tools. And I was like, what do they actually work for? Like they actually work and then my other friend Kareen is on the show. She's like, oh, I have them all. And they I've been using them and I'm like, okay, so am I just had to buy like something that doesn't work. But then I like went down the rabbit hole, fell in love with all of the research she's had and by the way, her tools are just for cellulite. And they're like your fascia is like, as she discussed is like over your whole body. And she has nothingBrad Crowell 15:45  It's not just over it's in like it's between your organs (inaudible)Lesley Logan 15:49  She had a video where she takes these straws. And the straws obviously are wrapped in paper. And she's like, that's basically your fascia. There's fascia inside all wrapped around all these muscle fibers. And so what she said is, cellulite is a physical presentation of bad fascia. And she actually feels her it's her moral duty to tell people not to accept it, because she likened it to having a rash. If you had a rash, you wouldn't just go love my body and my rash. You would go like, deal with the rash. And she's like, you can absolutely love your body at any size. And you guys, go check her out. This woman loves her body at her size. She's beautiful. She like does amazing thing. She's over 50 and going surfing in Costa Rica, like she's kicking ass. But she says that we can actually love our bodies and work on our fascia and that can actually help with the cellulite, but also bonus benefits. Some of the pain you're having, including why she was doing this in the first place. She had major pain in her hip are because of bad fascia. Brad Crowell 16:50  Yeah and she started investigating the stress in the knee and the ankle, and was basically moving the fascia around, and eventually was able to work through the pain she was having in her hip with it. Lesley Logan 17:08  Yeah. And she so she's really big on advocating for effective fascia treatment, because there's a lot of things on the internet like foam rolling or even like we have, like a like a type of the percussion tools, right? So there's percussion massager. She's like, those are actually not great for fascia but they're great for other things.Brad Crowell 17:27  They are great for muscles. Lesley Logan 17:28  They're great for muscles. And so like, if you watch her she's very specific. Like if you do if you go too deep with the tools, that's a deep massage, that's for the muscle. If you do it up here that's for the skin if you do it like this pressure, like so there is a method (inaudible). Brad Crowell 17:41  Her tools, you mean. Lesley Logan 17:42  Yes. And so I think like what I loved was that she wasn't dissing any products, she was basically explaining how that product helps a different thing versus her products help. And I wanted to stress this, it's not just about the cellulite, you guys, her fascia can if your fascia is not healthy, if it gets tight, if it gets bundled, if things happen to it, you will have pain and it criss-crosses your body because fascia is an organ almost like it's like maybe is an organ, maybe the science is saying that but like it is so integral, and we go to the chiropractor a lot and I swear to God, the problem I'm having is because some fascia shit that's on a different part of my body that I am working out with my blasting tools. So I'm like, there's a reason why this is like on the left over here, the right over here, the left over here. So anyways, I'm a little bit obsessed. I love that she addressed that because I I was going I was like kind of having a little bit of like conflict of my own values. And it's like, oh, no, it's okay. And also, by the way, I still love myself and blast.Brad Crowell 18:45  Well, I really loved when she was talking about the balance of running a business and maintaining scientific integrity. Because when you run a business, it's really, you know, like, the idea is, what is our marketing message that's gonna get people to buy things, right, and you can just make shit up. Right? Lesley Logan 19:05  Oh people do make so much up. Brad Crowell 19:06  People do they just make it up. Right. And so she is definitely arguing for the marriage of marketing with actual clinical research, you know, like the work that backs up the claims that she's making. And I thought that was awesome. I mean, for me, that's like, integrity, you know? And she talked about really, I think, I think was an interesting conversation. She's like, am I taking crazy pills? Am I the only person that's talking about fascia? Like, what's the deal here? Why is it that like, you know, how is it that (inaudible) western medicine is not even considering this as a as something to look at. They're just pushing fascia out of the way. Lesley Logan 19:49  And this was like 20 years ago when she was first like when she first started. So if you're like (inaudible).Brad Crowell 19:56  And she, you know, was learning, she was reading she said she was literally having Eastern medicine books translated in English so that she can learn more about fascia. And she kept looking around for the fascia expert and the fascia expert and the fascia expert until she finally was like, I think maybe I'm the fascia expert because what the hell no one else is talking about this. , Lesley Logan 20:18  You know, what I just to like, like in that I could not believe we could actually have a podcast called Be It Till You See It, it seems so obvious that there'll be a podcast out there already. So like, I think a lot of times we, we, all of you listening, the we, doubt that we could be the first person to think of something as a topic to share with the world. And I thought it really interesting that she just kept going, there's gotta be someone, there's she was like just praying and looking for someone else to be the expert. And then at the time, there wasn't anyone? Brad Crowell 20:56  Yeah, well, I just want to throw out a couple of other things that are like the science behind what she had, you know, studied, or sorry, that she obviously she went down her own path of education. And then she commissioned some scientific studies. And so she's proved her commitment to ensuring safety and scientific validation through methods of funding independent research, with a blind study by the Applied Science Performance Institute, which that's the company I looked up there out of Florida. Fascinating. There's a bunch of like science nerds, they're clearly very expensive. She utilized DEXA scans, ultrasounds and blood markers in the study, or they did and then they focused on collagen inflammation and longevity markers like telomere length. So I don't have a clue what telomere length is but that's what they focused on. Lesley Logan 21:49  I actually, I used to study that stuff. So I do. That's very impressive. And by the way, you guys, somehow Timbaland ended up in the conversation. Brad Crowell 22:00  The producer.Lesley Logan 22:01  Just want to say that, that I've always wanted Timbaland to be like part of a conversation and he made it into my podcast.Brad Crowell 22:15  So yeah, so do longer telomeres mean longer life, this is what I'm learning about genetics. So shorter telomeres are associated with shorter lives. I don't know that it's the reverse. They didn't say longer are associated with longer, but they are saying shorter is associated with shorter. So anyway, she sought to address any skepticism and criticism from both the scientific community and from the general public regarding your fascia treatment techniques by supporting it with science, so. Lesley Logan 22:47  Yeah. Brad Crowell 22:48  All right. So finally, let's talk about those Be It Action Items. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Ashley Black? She actually covered all four, she literally spent time thinking about this and she was very Lesley Logan 23:03  Did you see my face on the video? Like my jaw was like dropping as she went through each one because you guys know, we tell people, they only have to do one if they want, like, you know, because like, we're just like, thank you for being on the podcast. I'm so grateful. And she's like, oh, I actually wrote these down. Hold on, I thought about each one. So we actually got she actually has, like, I love that they that it stands for something. Like it does, thank you for noticing.Brad Crowell 23:29  Just like I didn't know BE IT meant something. She said, you know, for bold, stepping into your power. You know those little voices that come in from time to time and tell you who you are. Once you know who you are, be unapologetic, without fear and step into who you are. Just be it. For intrinsic, she said, she recommends the Delete Activity, which I thought was really interesting. I'm curious to learn more about this. But she started by writing everything down that she does in the day. And then she reviewed it and she was like, you know, what, can I get rid of? What can what can I cut? Why am I doing these things? You know, and I? I don't know? Like maybe it's I don't know, maybe? Maybe we can just delete cleaning.Lesley Logan 24:19  Well, you can I mean, you can also like we deleted getting up to open the door for dogs by getting a thing that opens the door for the dog. So like you can like some deletes also include a delegation but like right What if you could just delete it? How would that work? And also likeBrad Crowell 24:36  She mentioned like, well, relationships that are stagnant and that are causing stress. Lesley Logan 24:39  Oh, gosh, get rid of those. But also like Brad Bradbury's Jack says like, because he was somebody was like, oh, I have to clean my desk to like actually get worked on and he's like, no, you don't. Your desk does not have to be clean to actually get worked on. The house does not actually have to be clean. And then Gay Hendricks is to be on the pod soon. Yes, he is. Yeah, he is. He actually says in his book he's like, if you think the house has to be clean before you can write creatively, because you think other people want the house to be clean, don't you think that other people in the house would prefer you to be a happy, healthy, awesome person living in your genius? So. Yeah, the house does probably have to get cleaned at some point. But you're probably gonna clean up more or have a better life with the people who live you live with if you are doing your thing that you love. So delete shit.Brad Crowell 25:25  Yeah. So she said, you know, we have something intrinsic to our nature and authenticity, when we're discovering and sharing our authentic self. You know, if it's a gift that we have, and we don't share it, it's a wasted life. But those really, that was some strong language there. And she suggests self-discovery create space to understand yourself, you know, when you're giving yourself space by deleting things. And so yeah, I thought I thought it was interesting. B-E.Lesley Logan 25:57  Yeah. So I think you got the B-I butBrad Crowell 26:01  B-I. Lesley Logan 26:01  So I got a couple for you for the rest of them. Which is it's not the action, it's the little actions. So she talked about encouraging it to break down goals into manageable steps and take the first three today, or the first one, like take little actions, because we kind of like put things like, oh, I've got to build my course. I've got to create a challenge. I've got to make an email funnel. It's kind of like, holy fuck, that's so many things. Like, do you know how many things how many hearts go in there? You want to actually like break it down into little things. And this reminds me of Jill Flodstrom who was on the pod many, many moons ago and she was like, make everything take two minutes. So every task you put on your list, break it down until two minutes, because you always have two minutes, you have two minutes, when you're waiting for someone, no one is on time for a Zoom call anymore. They're all two minutes late. So you could actually do something for two minutes. So I'm consistently being that person. And then she said, find your North Star, find that thing that truly, truly makes you fulfilled. I really love this because today I had a call with someone and it was really, really great. But it would be a total distraction, it would not like it could veer its way back to the target. But right now it feels like a little offside and I (inaudible) I'm like, I love this when it's at this point in your business that will actually be in alignment with what I'm doing. And I'm so in so whatever that when do you think that she's like, it'll probably be three months and like you call me in three months the offer still stands but right now, as it stands, it would just it's it's a little bit out of left field for me and so I would rather wait the three months if you don't mind. And I would wait three years. Because like the reality is, you guys, we tend to think that everything happens has to happen tomorrow. And what I have discovered is it all happens when it's supposed to which is fucking annoying. But stay on target.Brad Crowell 28:09  Yeah, find that Northstar.Lesley Logan 28:10  Do you like, do you like that really, really exciting, like supportive, like hoorah coaching like it's all going to happen when it's supposed to. But it really does. And it's really amazing. And you always learn from things. So Ashley Black, I love you. I'm excited for what we're doing together, you guys there will be some projects that Ashley and I are hoping to do together. One of them is you can actually use a link of ours to blast your bait to take that line out of Brad.Brad Crowell 28:40  Master Blaster.Lesley Logan 28:42  So there's I have a ton of the tools I'm not gonna lie, our bathroom is full of them. I've been caught blasting all around the house. Honestly, whenever I'm Netflix sitting and chilling, that's me, I'm just blasting and it feels really nice to do something for your body like I one of my love languages is touch. And so I do not have the time to go to a massage or as my I would, I would fucking go every week if I could. It's not the money. It's literally the time. So I really love this because it gets me, allows me to do something for myself. It feels really good to do something for myself. And I don't think that as humans we actually touch our bodies enough so do that. And lastly, like I saw, I saw a couple moles I've never seen before probably because I wasn't looking for them. So I'm booking a dermatology appointment so you can also get to know yourself a whole lot more while you're doing this. It's a byproduct.Brad Crowell 29:36  I love it. Well check the link in the show notes if you want to see what we're talking about here. And stay tuned because like Lesley said, we do have some more fun things coming up you know with Ashley down the road, and we can't wait we can't wait to announce them for you. Lesley Logan 29:51  And by the way after the show is done recording Terraformer is out on her like outdoor patio Costa Rica. So she really truly is a Pilates person, loves it really the fascia like she, like, honestly and really into fascia, not just for your cellulite but also like what fascia could do for your entire body. It's not just out the outward, it's the inward as well. So yeah, it's she's awesome. I'm Lesle Logan. Brad Crowell 30:17  And I'm Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 30:18  Thank you so much for listening to us today. How are you going to use these tips in your life? Are you going to?Brad Crowell 30:24  You're going to blaster bait?Lesley Logan 30:25  Yeah. There you go, Brad. I set you up for that. Let us know. Tag us, tag Ashley Black, in the, in whatever you like to share things at. It really does make my day when I hear, I have to say this, one of our listeners sent me a message today going so do you watch SVU? Law and Order SVU because I watch Law and Order SVU and I know every word to the intro of Law and Order SVU and I now know every word in the intro of the Be It Pod. And I just had to say, oh, first of all, we do watch SVU we are working our way through sort of season one since 2021. And we are because Brad has never seen a lot of episodes we start with SVU because why not go all the way in on the darkness? And I don't know what season we're in. Brad Crowell 31:10  I think we're in 18.Lesley Logan 31:10  Season 18. Brad Crowell 31:12  Yeah, I believe so. Lesley Logan 31:12  We do know all the words. We call by our own (inaudible) and order. And I know and she did text me that she's like dun-dun. And I said I said do yourself a favor. Go down the Tiktok rabbit hole online (inaudible) you will lose an hour of your life and you'll never regret it. So anyways, thank you for tagging me and sharing with me how you love this show. What it makes you think of I never thought SVU and I would ever be in the same sentence but Mariska Hargitay, anytime, anytime you want it babe, I'm all in, have an amazing day. Brad Crowell 31:47  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 31:49  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. 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Every new achievement comes with its set of challenges. Dive into a friendly chat with Michael and Lesley as they underscore the importance of developing skills and the impact of raising one's standards that can pave the way to unexpected personal and professional growth.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co . And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:Michael's unique experiences that influenced his perspectives.The role of skills in aiding personal development.The disadvantage of dogmatic thinking on the path to self-discovery.The value of stepping out of routine to gain fresh perspectives.The transformative power of committing to personal aspirations.Episode References/Links:Follow Michael IGMichael's Think Unbroken WebsiteListen to the Think Unbroken PodcastGet the book, The Big Leap, by Gay HendricksGet the book, The Top Five Regrets of the Dying, by Bronnie WareGuest Bio:Michael Unbroken, Founder of Think Unbroken, is a best-selling author, speaker, podcast host, coach, and advocate for trauma survivors. From a challenging childhood marred by trauma and abuse, Michael spiraled into substance abuse and obesity. However, a pivotal moment in his mid-20s propelled him to rise from victimhood to become the hero of his own narrative. Since 2016, he has empowered over 100,000 survivors to transform their lives. With multiple books, including the best-seller "Think Unbroken: Understanding and Overcoming Childhood Trauma", speeches in 80 countries, and a collaboration with billionaire Grant Cardone, Michael aims to end generational trauma within his lifetime.  If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. Get your free Athletic Greens 1 year supply of Vitamin D3+K2 and 5 free travel packsGet your discount for some Toe Sox using the code: LESLEY Be It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy Webinar Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable PilatesFollow Us on Social Media:InstagramFacebookLinkedInEpisode Transcript:Michael Unbroken 0:00 Skills have utility. Most people do not have skills that actually matter. Right? That actually like you can be really good at video games. But like, how does that transition into? I'm not saying you can't be successful, like at playing video games? Because you certainly can. But like when you're trying to build something in your life, how do you leverage the skills that you have that you're really good at?Lesley Logan 0:24 Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. All right, Be It Babe, I am so excited because we have one of my dearest friends like, I probably like I feel like he's a brother from another mister and mother. But he's totally family to Brad and I, it's Michael Unbroken. And we've had him on the podcast before, in fact, one of your favorite podcasts to listen, we got so many reviews, I got so many DMs about that episode. And so I brought him back. And it's just really fun. Because he's a dear friend, we got to go really deep on some conversations and, and share some of our own things. So I hope that you enjoy hearing this conversation about integrity and goals and taking time for yourself and like your worth. We talked about a lot of things. And so I really hope you enjoy it. I also want to say that there are stories in our lives that can be triggering to some people. And so if that does happen just forward, you know, and please, you won't offend us, make sure you take care of yourself and honor that about you. But I do think it's important that you do hear about how Michael grew up, or how I've grown up, because it's so easy to look where we are right now. And think that we have it all together. And it's and it must be nice for us. And the truth is, is that like we've made decisions along the way, that put us in situations that we were in and got us out of situations we're in and also put us where we are today. And I really think it's important that you know that the grass isn't always greener on the other side it's probably Astroturf anyways, at this point, and also people's lives are from choices they made. And you might not know the whole story. But you are allowed to have what you want. You are allowed have the life that you want, you are worthy of those things. And I do hope that this conversation really does help you see that and helps you understand how people like us have made decisions and gotten where we are. And we hope that for you. So here is Michael Unbroken. All right, Michael, welcome back.Michael Unbroken 3:10 YoLesley Logan 3:10 I'm so excited you're here, in the flesh. Michael Unbroken 3:13 Real life.Lesley Logan 3:14 I know. I love. I love actually doing these in person. I know you do most of your interviews in person, but I actually think it's quite fun. And it's also not so nice. I have a friend who lives in Vegas come over to do this interview. You when we last had you on you were living in Denver. So what's new?Michael Unbroken 3:30 Well, I mean living here, kind of I guess quasi right. Being on the road all the time makes it feel very difficult. But I've just come to accept like, that's my reality. Like, I like being on the road. I mean, you get it right, because you're on the road all the time.Lesley Logan 3:45 Yeah, I think you I think, I don't know, I think you choose your choices. Like that's kind of my thing. So like, I don't want people like, oh my God, you're so busy. I'm like, I chose all these things. So like, I don't really feel comfortable. Like, I'm not gonna complain about it. Because if I complain, it means I want to change something. And if I don't change it, then I'm not gonna complain about it. Michael Unbroken 4:04 I watched, have you ever seen Up in the Air? That George Clooney movie? (inaudible) fires people. Yes, there's a scene where he's like in the lounge, taking out all the cards out of his wallet. He's got I got this card, and this card, and this rewards card and that card and I was just like, that's my life. And, and there's a scene where like, this new girl has come into the company, and they're gonna try to make everything virtual. This is like a road warrior. And he's like, I don't want to do that. And that's how I feel. Because I love I love the adventure. You know? And it's like, that's part of the choice that we make in everything. It's not that it's not difficult. I mean, there's sacrifices, right? Because it's like, if you want to go be this person, it hurts friendships, it hurts relationships, it hurts having a normal life, but also the ones that you have are better in this weird way, because you're actually like here. Lesley Logan 4:57 Yeah, I think first of all, I think it's like It really changed. You have to be more communicative with the people in your life like, this is the life I live in. This is how I can hang out with you. And this is how I can spend time with you. And when I'm with you, this is how I will show up, I promise. But it forces communication, and some people don't like it like, I, people in my family, you travel so much, you never see us. And it's like, well, it's so they never see you. It's just I don't see you as much as you probably would like, and that would make you feel comfortable. But we don't always get what we want. And as long as I'm like operating in integrity, and I'm communicative with you, I think we can make it work. But I also find that I have tried doing nothing we did in the pandemic like I did, I stood around here for two years and didn't really go a lot of places. And there was something nice about being home and having a routine. But I love it on the road. So I have tried to figure out like a balance, like I don't think I go on the road as much as you I'm like, one trip a month is plenty, two trips a month, I'm like it better, wherever I'm going, number two better be amazing.Michael Unbroken 6:12 Well, but also like, if you think about it, it's a choice, we've decided to do this, I decided that I'm going to be the one who gets on the plane and go to seven cities in a month and speak at all these events and blah, blah, blah. But at the same time, if you think about it, when we make intention, like we had lunch together two weeks ago or whatever, we we don't flake on each other. Like here it is like we're going to do this. And I think a lot of people don't take advantage of the time that they actually have with people. And they reschedule and they cancel. And they're like all do it this time. And then we'll see you next time. And you know, and people always will go, oh, it's not a big deal that you canceled on. And I'm like, actually, it's a freakin huge deal. Like you, you have to understand like time, time is the one variable we don't get more of. And so I'm like, if I make plans with my friends, you know this, I have guys' night, Brad comes to it, it's like I have all these different things in my life where it's like I try to build this framework of time knowing that it's really the only thing that because I can't get back it has to take precedent over everything. So I'm with you. I'm present with my friends I'm present, like I'm not in whatever other element of life I could be in in that moment. Lesley Logan 7:29 I love that you brought it up not flaking on each other because I I actually was looking back at our our text messages. And it was all I saw were like dates. Like we're like sending each other dates back and forth, to have an intentional opportunity to actually hang out.So I was looking back at our text message. And we were very intentional on dates, we sat and we've talked about a couple of our friends who will sort of flake out on things. And it's like, I just, I don't make plans with you. Yeah, it's really, and that's kind of, I think it's hard for a lot of people who are people pleasers, or like they want to be liked. And it's like, of course, I don't want people to hate me. But I also have to understand that if I'm set aside the precious time that I have in town to be with you or to be wherever I am, if I'm coming into your town, I'm going to be there. If I set that aside, it means I'm not doing something with anyone else, including I'm not doing anything for myself. I'm just doing something to hang out with you. So if you're going to flake, it happens, it's I'm not asking for perfection. But be honest. And really make sure you let me know as soon as possible. You know, I mean, it's not like we're perfect, but I do think the intention is there and when you do have to reschedule something, you know, being intentional about how you reschedule that not like, hey, let's reschedule for another day. It's like, okay, well, that's never gonna happen.Michael Unbroken 9:11 Like how integress are you? Right? Where's your level of integrity? That's what I think about with it. Because especially and like I get like not most people don't live lifestyles like us, right? And that's fine. And you don't have to like if you do the nine to five thing, cool. But like still, it's like, why are you flaking on your friends when this? Everything changed for me in like, I guess it was probably eight years ago now. Nine years ago. I got a text from one of my buddies and he's like, hey, Wasn't this your friend? And he sends me a link to an online news article. My childhood best friend Seth, this guy that I did everything with from the time that we were like 11 years old. Have I told you this story? So Seth and I grew up very very similar circumstances his dad was this crazy alcoholic. His mom was working like three jobs. We both go to the same elementary school, we go to the same high school for a period of time, we both played football together wrestled everything like we're best friends. Actually, the first tattoo I ever got was with him. We went and you know, this is 2004. We're dead broke, we have no money, he found a way to make money. And one day he calls me he's like, hey, you know, we can go make $150 if we sell our plasma? Yes, that's true. You can. So we went well. And this is, you know, 20-something years ago, where not only do we go sell the plasma once we do it like three times in one day.Lesley Logan 10:41 Can you sell that much? Michael Unbroken 10:42 No, of course not. But like everything was paper that it wasn't all digitized. So, we're gonna make all this money. And we go get these tattoos. So I have a matching tattoo with him. And he's working a job at this Johnny Rockets downtown Circle Center Mall, Indianapolis, flipping burgers, doing fries, whatever. I had just gotten a job at a Wendy's. And I was a general manager in training. So making 36 grand a year at 18 years old. Lesley Logan 11:09 That's millions of dollars for an 18-year-old.Michael Unbroken 11:13 Not only that, but if you look at 2004 that's probably 100 grand a year. Like it's real money. Yeah, I'm on my own. I have my own car, my own place, everything. And he's fucking flipping these burgers. And I'm like, dude, fuck that. Come work over here. I'll get you a job. Now I got him the interviewer he ends up getting himself the job. Well, three weeks into it. He just stops coming. And I would, think about that, I'm 18, I put my name on the line, I'm like, we're about to get a $500 bonus or whatever. And, and I come to find out, he's back at Johnny Rockets, fucking flipping burgers, making $4 an hour or whatever. I was irate. Like, you have no idea how mad I was. Now I look at it differently. I'm like, Well, we're on our own path. Like it's not up to me what he does. I stopped talking to him, replying to him, text messages, AIMs, you know, (inaudible) Myself, My Spaces, nothing and he would call me all the time for years. And nothing. I was so mad at this guy. And he was my best friend, he's like my brother. And I get this text from another mutual friend. I'm like 29-30 years old. And it's a link to a news article in the Indy Star, Indiannapolis man shot dead in his living room. Lesley Logan 12:36 Oh my God.Michael Unbroken 12:37 And somebody had walked into Seth's house, it's a bad drug deal gone bad. And just blew his fucking brains out. Close cast it whole nine. And it took I still don't know that. I'm entirely like through that. Yeah. But that moment shifted everything for me because I was like, I never get to apologize. I never get to fix this. I never get across this bridge. I never this friendship that meant more to me than anything. He was my brother. He was the person that was with me when I got kicked out of the house, when I got expelled from high school, the first time I ever had sex, like it was at his house like, it was like this whole thing. And because I felt my, the ego has such a need to be right, to be wrong, and to be offended. It was all of them. And it took away that relationship. And then my best friend Kevin got murdered. Neither one of my friends get and I was just like, man, like, you've got, your people have to be the most important thing. Because I never get to have that conversation with him. And so when like, I think about the times we schedule or my guys' night, which Brad comes to or when I'm on the road and I make the time, the same for you guys, you guys were on the road and made the time to come hang out with me in Denver. I'm like, I'm gonna show up. Because I don't know if I get tomorrow with you.Lesley Logan 14:00 Yeah, I all of that is really sad. And, and there's those moments that like, really teach us something, you know? And, you know, who knows? If you had answered an AIM, what would have been the change there, but I think, I think it's really important that you kind of we kind of understand ourselves a little bit more and those things, it's like, like, you get to go back and go, how would I wanted to handle that? And it doesn't mean it would have changed any other outcome. But maybe you would have been able to feel like at least I said, my thing because I think anyone listening be like, of course, I would not talk like you put your name on the line, even at 18, even at 40 like that stuff matters you know, so but I do agree. It's like, it's like how can how, what is integrity to us, like what feels integral and how to want to operate there and it doesn't always mean that it will be the right thing. Like, looking back you might be like I felt like it was an integrity then but that didn't go the way I expected it to go. But I think it's we have to have values. I think it goes back to that's one of the values that we have in our lives as for Brad and I, and then also in our business, it's like, if we say, We're gonna do something, and we can't do it, we have to communicate why we can't do it. Otherwise, we're out of integrity. And that, that makes people not trust you or not want to be around you or want not want to participate with you and I, and we all what is life if you don't have these relationships, whether they're in your town where you are or out in the world where you get to be like, I live for the cause I have my girlfriends who don't even live in this town with me. But they get what I do. They understand what I'm going through. And some days, I'm gonna go like yesterday, I had a girlfriend at a coffee date with a girlfriend. And it's been a few months since we talked and she was like, how are you doing? I said, well, to be honest, in this moment, not great. And if we hadn't set this up three months ago, I would still be in bed right now. Because I'm not having a good day. But we had this call. So I'm here and I'm just letting you know, I'm not my best. And she's like, Well, I'm not my best. Let's talk about what's going on. And then what do we each need. And that was such a great moment to have. And because of integrity, because I want to live my life. I showed up for that call. Michael Unbroken 16:00 Yeah, there's like three ways that I, three rules to life. And, and this is for me, and I try to like instill this in my clients. I look for this in my friendships and the people I date and potential relationships, business partnerships, everything. And it's like, number one, are you honest? Number two, do you show up? Even when you don't want to. Because you're like, Fuck, man, I'm no, I'm just having a day. Want to stay in bed, I'm gonna Netflix and chill, whatever, right? And then three is like execute. Do you actually follow through? Right? Because showing up is like being in the room. But executing is like I'm doing the thing. Because you see this you coach people, right? In business and in personal. Yes, people who like you lay out the game plan. And they're in it, and they're hyped up. And they're like, I'm gonna do everything. And then they go home and nothing is different. You know, and so I'm like, are you doing all three of those? And the reason why it's so important to me is like, I used to not do any of that. Like, I mean, you know, my story. People may have listened to me on here before, but it's like, and people who are listening to this on the other podcast, they know my story, like I was a piece of shit. Yeah, you know, when it's like, do you want to be that?Lesley Logan 17:07 Yeah, I think what I love is when I love that you share your story so much, because it allows people to see you can change, like, maybe you felt like you were a piece of shit back then. And like you've look what you've done with your life, and how you and how you're acting. And that execution is so hard. I actually have two calls tomorrow with people who are not executing what they signed up for. And they're not getting, they're seeing everyone in the group surpass them. And so now they're like, double downing on themselves and how not where they want to be. And like, there's a lot of judgment, there's a lot of things that they're saying, and it's like, I hear you like they are going further. And I understand that life is sucking right now. But you also still have to show up for yourself in some capacity. How do you like what are the ways that you help people kind of actually execute not just be in the room? Yeah,Michael Unbroken 17:55 I think well, you know, I try to lead first, right? So it's funny, I was just coaching a client driving over here. And it's like, even if I have to get in the car and drive half an hour to the other side of town, because I have a commitment which I then it's my bad because like, here's what's interesting in this space I'm in right now. Like I'm not a slave to time in the way I normally am, which I think is actually a good thing to be a student of your calendar. I'm just kind of like nonchalant about everything. And I was getting ready to head over here. I was like, oh, I have a coaching call right now. Which isn't the norm, right? But but it's about like, recognizing that you have to do the thing. Right. And sometimes it's like, yeah, make a small pivot. But what I'm always trying to get to, like, at the end of the day, like, if my head is on the pillow, did I do everything I said I was gonna do. And I don't allow myself to go to bed if I didn't. And that's like a consequence. And I think that we need to be able to give ourselves consequences for our lack of action. And I don't necessarily mean like consequences. It's pain, like you don't have to like self-flagellate. Right, but it's like, I'm not going to bed till I'm done. Lesley Logan 19:05 Yeah, I also think that helps you understand, like, how much you can actually promise that you'll do that day, because you're not gonna, you're not gonna want to (inaudible).Michael Unbroken 19:15 I was like, that's too much. Right. But it's all this is about know thyself. It's like, okay, so you're gonna have these coaching call clients tomorrow, like, what about them? Because in my mind, you say that to me, and I go, well, they're trapped. They're stuck in their own mindset, which can be easily solved by taking an action. Yeah. So what are you presenting today? Lesley Logan 19:35 Yeah, I mean, that's, that's what I'm thinking about today. And what I'm going to figure out in the meeting, because the actions that I gave them last time, I thought were so here's what I know as a habits coach, like trained with BJ Fogg. Like on calls. He is the behavior scientist from Stanford. He's the one every Habits book has copied. Michael Unbroken 19:55 Yeah, and you're about those habits too, because you'll text me at like 6:30 in the morning. You're like I'm on the mat. Lesley Logan 20:00 I know I'm like are you on your pet mat? So I, so here's what I know, the people that typically are attracted to the type of work that I do, they're typically perfectionist overachievers, and so they have a really hard time doing little. But what the science shows is that you do not create habits unless you actually achieve, you actually have to complete things, get tough wins, you have to celebrate, you have to be kind to yourself. And so if you are in a judgment shame zone, I promise you, you will never ever, ever create a habit around that thing because your brain's gonna be like, I don't want or that thing brings me shame, it makes me feel stressed, it doesn't make me feel good about myself. So I had thought that the five minutes of taking time for themselves was actionable. And now I think I need to get even more specific, I need them to get more specific with me with what those five minutes are gonna be or what that one is going to be because maybe five minutes to do anything for themselves is almost still too much. And that's okay, like, this is what's so important. I'm not gonna get mad at myself for I'm not gonna go Oh, that was done Lesley, didn't help them enough. It's like, every single person is different. For some people, they need the freedom of those five minutes being anything. And for some people, it needs to be very specific. These five minutes are for me to go for a walk. And it's important that people know themselves and you're not going to know yourself until you make it until you do it in a way it didn't work. Like that's just you won't know maybe, like, you know this about your business. Like, have you ever like done something your business at like, freakin like sores, and you're like, Wow, that was amazing. But then you got to redo it again, it doesn't have the same thing because like, you almost learn better when the idea fails, because you're like, Okay, we could have done that better. We could have done this better. Like when it wins the first time. You're not really sure what was the thing that was the best?Michael Unbroken 21:46 I think that's all life though. I mean, if I go track back everything I've ever done, it's always been like, sometimes things work really well. And sometimes they don't. And I think the hard part about it is like recognizing like it actually doesn't matter at the end of the day. What matters is like, are you still going forward? And I think that's where people get trapped. And so I have the benefit of my side of being a nihilist. Like I don't care about anything, which is really weird, right? There's a juxtaposition. Lesley Logan 22:14 So funny, because I think you would care so much. Michael Unbroken 22:16 Well, there's a juxtaposition I live my life in, right? So think about this. Name your great, great grandpa. Lesley Logan 22:23 OhMichael Unbroken 22:23 Exactly. Right. And so people always are talking about legacy. Like I'm gonna build a legacy I'm gonna build outside of a few outliers. We have some Tony Robbins, and Napoleon Hills and Abraham Hicks and those people will live a bit longer than the average. But most people can't name their great great grandpa, let alone their grandfather. Yeah, but yet we live in this society that pushes legacy go do the thing. And I'm like, it actually doesn't matter. Like at the end of the day, nothing that we do matters. And here's what I hold simultaneously. One that concept paired with everything they fucking do in this moment is the most important thing that I do. Right. And so if you can, like wrap your head around that it's a weird sense of freedom. So like, even though like I build businesses, and I coach people, I speak on the stages, the podcast, blah, blah. It's like, as I look down the tunnel, I got the end of the day, it doesn't actually matter. And we hold ourselves to this account where it's like, man, like it's got to be perfect. Like, no it doesn't. My book here, let me say this real quick, because you'll see why, why I said this. My first book has like a ton of reviews on Amazon, on Barnes and Noble, on Apple. All of them are five stars. The first book, except for one, one, and it's a two-star review. And the person goes, I couldn't get through the book. The grammar is terrible.Oh, I have that review, too. I have Yeah, all fives and then I have that person. Here's why I don't care about the five stars or the two stars. Because I did that for me. I was like, I'm gonna write a fucking book. And I'm gonna write another one. And I'm gonna do another one and then make the podcast and then I'm gonna speak on stages. I'm gonna write coaching programs, I'm gonna do all that. And it's just like, I'm just going to do it. But people who are in that perfectionist mindset, they're trapped in the idea of the other person's opinion is so important that if they get the two-star review, it will cripple them. And I'm just I don't care and so maybe that makes me very nonchalant but you see how I operate in the world?Lesley Logan 24:32 Yeah, cuz I because when I said it's, I think you care a lot. I actually the word care is not that you care about what I think. I feel that you care about the people that you put yourselves in a room with, like whenever I'm in a room with you, or Brad's in a room with you. We can tell that you care about the people in that room in that moment. So you like so I think it's really fascinating. And it goes kind of back to what we've been talking this whole time is that integrity but also that intentionality of like you're you're, you're like, in this moment, this is all that I'm really here that matters. And that once I leave this moment, it, whatever it's over and what anyone says about that moment, whether they were there or not, it doesn't actually pertain to me. Because that moment over and I can't change it.Michael Unbroken 25:15 This is why can't get canceled. Right, right. And I've been attempted to be canceled four times. I'm like, I don't give a fuck. I have a question for you. Because I think this is important. What did you get a two-star review? How do you feel about that?Lesley Logan 25:29 At the time? At the time, I wasn't really ready for it. Anything. well, like I read it, and it was kind of like, exactly the, my worst fear. You know, it was a grammar one and I had an editor go through it. Michael Unbroken 25:44 Why was it your worst fear? Lesley Logan 25:45 Because my grammar isn't awesome. And so like I was I didn't want anyone to see the grammar problems and not get the what the book was about, like I wanted the book to actually help them. And I didn't want the grammar to take away from helping them. So I did hire an editor. They didn't catch everything. No one does not perfect. So when I got that, of course, like it felt like the wind got knocked out of me. Now this is 10 years ago, very different person. And I let the wind get and luckily, I lived in L.A. at the time, and I did drive around at the time. So I was in traffic and I let myself like get the wind knocked out of me. And then I got angry at the person. And I got like whoever this person was, because I was like, fuck you like going to the whole thing. But I was like, Wait a minute. This is not an English book. This is a book to make sure that Pilates instructors stopped getting swindled out of their dollars, because people are selling them ship programs, period. And do the do any of the commas or periods and their fuck up that message. No, they don't. So I wrote back. It's a good thing. I'm not an English teacher, I hope that you don't get swindled out of the wrong programs, you know, and, and good luck on your journey. And I was like and I it did take me the whole day to get there. Now I might expect much quicker. Now I like I laugh so hard, because people on YouTube love to write a ton of shit about me. But my people come for them, which is also a lot of fun. But I think like it also you have to get to a point where you can go I didn't do this. Like I had to get to the point where it's like, Wait, am I didn't do this for that person. I I hadn't done it for me yet. But I absolutely did it to help people. And I and it was a particular group of people and that person, wasn't it. And so I had to like learn whose opinions of me matter. Oh, not that person. It wasn't who he's doing it for. Michael Unbroken 27:26 Yeah. And that's, that goes back to the egos need to be right. Why even give the energy to respond? Oh, yeah, I like and part of it. You want the rebuttal because you be like a fuck your mother. Yeah. Like, that's how I think about. And I and I work really, really hard. Because like, I have very strong opinions like you know, me personally like is there are times where I say shit where most people like, I cannot believe you just said that. And I'm like, why? Like, if we have freedom of speech, and part of being human being is the ability to express who we are. In what I'm not saying there's not consequences, because there certainly are, but I'm like, I'm gonna do it anyway. Yeah. And I think that in that there's, there's, again, I'm gonna tie into that word freedom. When I rebuttal to people, I really take a step back. And I'm like, what does this serve? Right? Because I think that we want to argue and fight and we have this need to be right all the time. And I do too. And it's something that I have to really think about, because there's like seven times a day where I'm like, I need to be right. And a hard part about is I'm right a lot. And so it just fuels my ego more. And then when I'm wrong, which I really appreciate, when somebody will sit across from me and be like, you're looking at it wrong. I learn. And there's power in that. And I think that you have to be willing to be a learner.Lesley Logan 28:49 Yeah. I think that's hard for people. It's like, our entire way that we're educated on this planet on this country that we're we're both in is like to get the A. And it's so pointless, because all it teaches is like don't just copy the Smart kid in class, because, like, why get in trouble. And so you have to be right, when it's like, it's so much more important to value the journey that you got there. And like how you got that answer and like, where that came from. And like, I think that's really hard because people it's not that they want to be. They have to be right in front of you or in front of somebody else. It's they're afraid if they're wrong, then people are going to judge them for being wrong. And it's like, no, it's okay to learn. It's okay to go. Oh, I never thought about that way. That's not the life experience I had. So of course, I didn't think about that way. Thank you for letting me know about a different life experience.Michael Unbroken 29:40 And that's because we think that people are thinking about us. Lesley Logan 29:43 Oh, right. They're not?Michael Unbroken 29:44 They're not. Like, nobody gives a shit about you. I mean, that's a very crass way of saying it but like, realistically, like nobody's thinking about me right now. Lesley Logan 29:54 That is well and that is something that takes a long time for people to even I haven't even read Recently, there was something that was going on around the holidays where I had, like, it felt like everyone was thinking about me, just because a lot of people were reaching out. I am, but because there were people, a lot of people reaching out, which made me think, oh my God, a lot of people are thinking about this. But when it came down to it, I looked at the statistics of what was going on. And I actually looked at things I was like, oh, not many people are thinking about this. And so I'm stressing about what people are thinking about me when really, they're not. And it's such a freeing moment to go. They're not and that's okay, it is okay. What,Michael Unbroken 30:31 like, why did that shift for you? Because like, you're a public figure, like me, you've had your face up on big alas billboards, and you're, you know, this person that people look towards for stuff, whatever that stuff is that you have at the moment. Like, what? I know this about myself, I'm gonna create codecs. But for the question, I know this about myself, I was invisible as a kid. Growing up being homeless, being the worst kid in school being the kid who smelled like garbage, who wore clothes from the goodwill in the church, who was on the the food stamp cards and ever I was invisible. And I played sports. And I was particularly fond of wrestling, because it was me versus one person. And I have a bunch of championships wrestling, because I love being on the podium and being first place. And it was like my, I am fueled by this need to be seen. I know this about I will admit this publicly. Why do I like speaking in front of 10,000 people? Because motherfuckers are paying attention to me. Yeah, right. And so with what you just said, how do you? How do you handle like, okay, I'm this public persona. But at the same time, I recognize people don't think about me. Lesley Logan 31:43 Yeah, I well, first of all, I remember like, I love the Hero's Journey, and I love reminding myself, I'm the guide, not the hero. So I think that that's important.Michael Unbroken 31:54 Context (inaudible).Lesley Logan 31:55 Yeah. So, so in what we do, as coaches as people who have ideas of solutions for problems that people want to have solved, it is so important for people that for people who work with me to understand that they're solving the problem, I'm just presenting an option for them. And like, if you like, here's the option, I can take you across this bridge, but you're still, you're still the one that shines, you're still the one that is the rock star, you're still the one that did it, I cannot do it for you. And so for me, like, that's kind of how I keep it in check. It's like, whoa, hold on. Because if it really bothers me that I'm trying to be the hero of their story. And that's not why I got into this. And that's that, well, that's not sustainable. That's not That's exhausting. And that's like, you have to be too many things that too many people. But as a guide, it's like, well, you can choose me as your guide. Or you could choose you as your guide, or there's like 17 other thousand people in the city that you could choose as your guide. And that's the choice that they have to make. So that's kind of how I do it. And it's and that's not easy when I can see that I am the guide for this person. Like there's that ego like I know, I can help them, then my job is to make sure that my messaging and what I put out in the world makes them feel comfortable for me to be their guide, but I still can't be like me, me, me, me, me. You have to do that yourself. And then I think the other year, we're talking about being seen. I think it's so interesting to go back and wonder why you do things because I do all this stuff so that people belong because I never felt like I belonged. I felt like the weirdest I felt like the weird kid in town. Michael Unbroken 33:21 You are the weird kid. Lesley Logan 33:22 I am still the weird kid.Michael Unbroken 33:23 But I am too. And that's why we get along. Lesley Logan 33:25 Yeah, so like, I again, like because I'm sure people that I grew up with Listen, it's not that I don't think I had friends. It's that I actually just never felt like I was I always felt like the outsider in the group, partly because I did not have money. And I did not have the new clothes. My grandmother was a secretary at an elementary school. And so at the end of every school term, we would go through the clothes that were left behind, because the kids left behind, you know, they had good clothes I had so I had the best jean jackets of the 90s. Like you would have thought I was rich because I had all these jean jackets.Michael Unbroken 33:59 But you're just a year behind.Lesley Logan 34:00 A year behind and they're someone else's that left them behind. But like I just I felt likeMichael Unbroken 34:04 Did you have a moment where a kid came up to you and like, that's my jacket. Lesley Logan 34:07 Thank goodness. No, because Michael Unbroken 34:08 It happened to me once. It was one of the most embarrassing experiences of my entire childhood. It was a Tommy Hilfiger jacket. It was one of those pullovers it was red, white and blue I'll never forget it and I was like, oh my God cuz it was it was in the lost and found and I didn't have a coat because we're fucking poor. And like the one of the teachers gave it to me from Lost and Found a week later this kids like that's my jacket.Lesley Logan 34:30 Ah, that hurts my soul because I do understand that like, so I I do everything to involve community, there has to be community aspect. And it's because like, I just know how important it is to feel like you belong in a group and you're safe in a group and that people miss you and expect you to be in that group. And so that's kind of how I can that's what everything is driven. If you look at anything we do, there's a community to it. There just is we do the FYFs here because I want to, it's the only way I can show the listener communities stuff likeMichael Unbroken 35:03 What does FYF mean?Lesley Logan 35:04 Oh, Fuck Yeah Fridays, do you do this? Michael Unbroken 35:06 No.Lesley Logan 35:07 You should. Michael Unbroken 35:08 What is it? Lesley Logan 35:08 I mean, you celebrate things all the time, so maybe don't need it. But FuckYeah Friday is like if I would love people to celebrate their wins every single day, but most people won't. So on Fridays, you celebrate a win. And I it's even better if it's a small win or a win that like the project is imperfect or it's not completed yet, but I share the listeners' wins. And then I share a win of mine. And and it's like eight minutes long, nine minuteslong, it is super short. And the whole idea is to get people to think about like, Oh, I've never thought about that being a win. That is a win. Like, just people need to celebrate that they've done shit. They've done stuff and they don't give themselves credit for it. Michael Unbroken 35:41 Yeah, they don't. I didn't either. For a long time it was I was speaking on set with me the most so if you know Grant Cardone, yeah. he invested in my company, I had spoken at one of his boot camps it was 10,000 people watching. And it was a pitch competition where I was like a shark tank kind of thing. Where I was pitching Think Unbroken, and what I do, and like, I fucking crushed, I destroyed everybody. It wasn't like, and I'll say this too, because I can sometimes probably come off as like, maybe egotistical, but I just believe in myself more than most people believe in themselves. Like, I'm not Kanye level self-belief. But I'm sometimes I'm pretty close.Lesley Logan 36:22 I'll keep you posted if you cross over. Michael Unbroken 36:25 That's what you need friends for. Right? Lesley Logan 36:28 Brad and I go, hey, Kanye, you'll go ohMichael Unbroken 36:30 If you ever hear me go, I am a God. But like you need that, like I always teach my clients, you need to believe in yourself. Because if you don't who will? And yes, I'm like getting ready to go on stage and do this pitch. And we're in the greenroom with all these other people who are about to pitch this business. And one of the women goes, well, good luck, everybody. But I already won. And I remember I didn't say this verbally, but in my head. I was like, you're fucking insane. You have no idea how much you just fueled me to crush you even more, because I'm super competitive, right? And so we get on stage. Grant goes, who wants to go first, I raised my hand so fast. It's like coming out of my fucking socket. Because I know one rule in business and in life always go first. If it's scary, you're about to do the zipline go first. If it's you got to get on the plane, go first, like, always go first. Always, always always. Because automatically, you will present yourself as a leader and the alpha in the situation, which I think is important, because we don't have enough leaders in this world right now. Yeah. And so I go first, I crush literally like the next four people are like literally blah, blah, blah. It's like incredible to watch. And not for them. But for me and stuff. And so, at the end Grant goes, okay, yeah, this is no-brainer. We know who won. And it was me. I knew I won because I envisioned it a thousand of times leading up to that moment. I have done this speech a zillion times. And he said something to me. And it sits with me going to Fuck Yeah Friday, he said to me, dude, hold on, take your flowers. And that means like, in that moment, or whenever it is, celebrate the things that you have done. We move too fast, constantly. Where it's like on to the next on the next on the next. And I think that's entrepreneurs, especially we're guilty of this where I'm like, I did something incredible. And I'm like, automatically over the next thing. And it's like, hold on, pause. Maybe it's not. I just spoke in front of 10,000 people because, for most people, that's not what it's gonna be. But maybe it's I brush my teeth today. That's where my journey started. Like, for real? I was like, get out of fucking bed dude, go brush your teeth. That in some days, that's all I did. Yeah. And I think that that's what people have to recognize. Because that gives you a win. And if you have one win you start stacking them and it becomes exponential and compounding, and then next thing you know, a year later your life is different. How do you so how do you celebrate your wins? How do you take your flowers? Lesley Logan 38:57 Oh, I'm a verbal processor. So you will hear me around this house going fuck yeah, I'm amazing. Just killed that, like, Michael Unbroken 39:06 Fucking ego maniac. Lesley Logan 39:08 Like I do and like so there's this hilarious story. I was in this program with Jay Grimes and he is one of the last living people to study with Joseph Pilates and you had to like basically assess, to stay in the program. And I was really certainly with this last last portion of it. I could never get all the exercises done in the time that I knew how to get them done. I was really struggling and and I was a little nervous because I was like, oh my god, like if I can't get this done in this time, I'm going to miss out and I'm not going to graduate with my friends. I'm not going to finish my friends like then there's an ego of like, do it all over again and wait till next year. And I was like, Hold on. Okay, we're just gonna visualize it. So I went there that day and I like got there an hour early and I just visualized myself doing every single exercise every single station doing it and like I'm like having a good time. So when I did the actual assessment There was an exercise that I really struggled with and I did it and I as I was finishing, like, fuck yeah, I'm amazing. And I wanted the next thing and he just was like, what? Because no one talks and I'm like, nailed that did that. Whether I did or not this person who was judging me, they're going okay, I guess she nailed it. But like so that's my first started noticing that that was one of my best pep talks. For me it was just like saying it out loud. That might not work for other people. You might want to dance or maybe have a high five your kids or something like that. But that worked really well for me. And I still do this to this day. And when you were talking about that, it made me think of the have you read the book? The Big Leap? Michael Unbroken 40:36 No, I have not.Lesley Logan 40:37 Gay Hendricks people listen to the pod. I talk about this book all the fucking time. It's an annual read for me. If you listen to books on it right now. It listen to it at one point for speed. It's like your grandfather, you never had read you a lovely story, because maybe your grandfather was lovely. My grandfather's were like realist, bringing negative people. So like, wasn't my grandpa, but the grandpa I wanted. So he has, there are different things we do to upper limit ourselves. And specifically, when we are winning specifically, when we like have a win, it pulls us out of our comfort zone, because in our comfort zone, like we're probably not winning all the time. So when we do something that pulls us out of our comfort zone, there are things that we do to upper limit ourselves and then pull ourselves back in and want there's a there's like seven of them. One of them is self-deprecation. Another one is worrying. Another one is picking fights. Some people get sick, I had a client who every time she met a guy that she liked, and had a date with him one date with them, she would lose her fucking voice gone for six months. So the relationship effectively died because there's no second date because she lost her voice for six months. And I was like, I'm just gonna say this. I think you're, I think you're doing this to yourself, I think this is like a nonsense in your head. But like, There's something so you've been on three dates and 18 months and you've lost your voice three times like this is really a thing. So I am someone who and you got to know this about yourself so you can catch it. So I'm the person when I complete something. And I have a win I will look for all the things that aren't completed yet. And I will go focus on like all the things that aren't going well. So like I had this big win and like well this didn't go well and this and go on this thing over here is not done and we're not doing that the right way. Instead of actually just taking a moment to Grant Cardone's thing picking the flowers and so now it's so important and Brad is very much on board with us when we have a win we just celebrate the win. Tomorrow, two hours from now, whenever we can actually look at the other things that have to happen but right now it's just celebrating the win and really like sitting in that and maybe we light a candle I don't know like what do we do sometimes like the money handle like it happens but like it's so so important because otherwise you're just building the muscle that pulls you back into your comfort zone. Michael Unbroken 42:52 Yeah, what is the money candle? Lesley Logan 42:54 Oh welcome to my house. Michael Unbroken 42:56 Is it made out of money?Lesley Logan 42:58 No it has it has crystals inside and you do an encantation inviting money in and then you light the money candle and then ideally leave it burning until it burns itself out and then there's crystals inside that are that are like you know incensed with your vision or your dream I'm currently am this week while I'm working burning the obstacle remover candleMichael Unbroken 43:22 We are so different. Lesley Logan 43:27 But like I I'm a visual person verbal processor, so having that burning like as soon as like I'm like, oh, like we're like we're doing it we're gonna like it just helps me like remind myself my things, but I get them they don't pay for this show, House of intuition, they they sell these candles. I fucking love it.Michael Unbroken 43:44 I laugh because you know me I'm not very (inaudible)Lesley Logan 43:48 I would say that Brad is a (inaudible) guy and he burns the money candle.Michael Unbroken 43:54 Mine is sage like because I have seen like where you might I don't necessarily want to go down this path but like I have seen shit and yeah, I need to sage immediately.Lesley Logan 44:03 Do you sage with like burning the sage or do you have sage spray? Or do you both? The burning? Oh, I'm gonna show you when you leave the house. I'm gonna show you my sage spray. You need to take it on your trip. It'll fit in your travel pack because you're seeing 10,000 people you got to save yourself. Michael Unbroken 44:16 Yeah, yeah, there's something interesting about like, as I go deeper into my own personal journey, whether it's with psychedelics, or whether it's just through meditation, or just feeling energy, I've come to realize I'm actually an empath, which is really strange because I always have been able to pick up on tones of emotions feelings, that is a fucking buzzword everybody's an empath now it's like shut up. No, you're not. And then it's like, I feel that and it's like, I realize especially through podcasting, and bringing all these different people into my home into my studio into my life. I'm talking about really heavy shit. Like there's something and look, it might just be psychosomatic where I'm like, if I just sage this house, like I feel better. Yeah. Sage my backpack, like, whatever. That's probably my (inaudible) thing.Lesley Logan 45:05 I actually, I think that that's, you know, I think some people might like see a white light that cleanses them, I think it's important to have some rituals that help you kind of shed things that are now are not needed in the moment you're in because shit happens like, your mom's going to text you at the worst fucking time and you're like, oh, I don't have time to deal with that right now. And it's like, so it's like, you've kind of have to figure out what works for you. To get back into the headspace you need to be in for the thing that you're wanting to do. Michael Unbroken 45:34 Yeah, and not be dogmatic too. Like, I think one of the things that I've grown tremendously over the years is to not be dogmatic, right, because that I have found that that is the ultimate fixed mindset. Yeah, you know, when it's like, if you're dogmatic about anything, and there's no room for opportunity touches a favor and grace. And then suddenly, you're like, it's kind of like these people that we coach, right? Because on this one hand, you, you have to be exposed to this new idea. And we lay it out in front of you. And it's like, if you are unwilling, I remember I've only ever, I've never shared this before. So be cautious in the way that I do. I've only ever let go have one client ever in almost a decade of doing this. And this person was so incredibly dogmatic in their belief that this wouldn't work that I had to fire them. Yeah, I believe I hire my clients in the same way they hire me. But it's my time. It's my energy. It's my resources. That's my team, it's. And so this person, I would sit in front of them. And we would have these conversations, and I'm exploring opportunity. And the thing I'm always trying to lay within people's framework is like, be solution oriented. Because if you can just do that there's so much potential in front of you, instead of looking for roadblock, look for possibility. Yeah. And like this, this person, they just refused. And I fire them. And I remember thinking in that moment, you talk about like, evaluating yourself as a person who does this. I'm like, am I a bad coach? Because I couldn't win that person. And I was recently with my mentor, and we have an interview show every Wednesday, where we interview just for three to four people ever, like 600 episodes almost. And I came in later. So I haven't been there for all 600. But the one of the guys were coaches name's Bill, last name fucking escapes me right now. So I apologize. But he said something fascinating to me. He goes, players win games, coaches win players. And, and I was like, but you can't win them. All. Right. And that applies to every, like, that's a great parable for life. Because it's like, you can't win all the time. Right? You're going to suck as a coach, you're gonna suck as a partner, you're gonna suck as a podcaster. You know, as a mom and a dad, as a employee or a business owner, you're gonna have days where you just don't win. But it's like, can you just keep going?Lesley Logan 48:02 I actually, that's awesome. I really love thinking like that. Because, um, it goes kind of goes back to like, nothing is ever as bad or as good as we're going to expect. Like, like, the worst-case scenario rarely happens. And the best case scenario rarely happens like Brad love you. And he, I love his sheets, like I love like his sheets, like all his calculators, like, we can do this. And I'm like, okay, so it's probably not going to hit that money, it's probably going to hit around like 75% of that, that. So do I want to do it for 75% of that? Is that enough? Is that like, you know, you can have to like understand that, but you're not going to win them all. And what I really find as a as a strength that I have, is that when shit hits the fan, I'm like, Okay, what else is possible? Like I do really well when like, when when something comes up, of course, I'm not perfect. You guys. I do feel my feelings. There are like, a bunch of Fuck yeah, what the fuck is going on? How to who did what? And then it's like, okay, so Well, we're not going to quit now. Like, we can't stop. So what can we do? And I love that question. Like what is possible? I wonder there's a reason why it's tattooed on my left thumb, because I'm left handed. So when I see it, I go, I wonder. I wonder, I wonder like, you open up a loop and your brain can't stop thinking until you close it. And to go back to that client you fired. When you're like, No, that's not going to work period. It, correct. Because you've put a you, you haven't even your brain is not going to search for evidence for it to be true.Michael Unbroken 49:29 So going back to the big leap, there's something I think about a lot and that's like the next level. There's a guy named Bishop TD Jakes. You know this guy? Lesley Logan 49:39 Was he not on Oprah?Michael Unbroken 49:41 He may have been.Lesley Logan 49:42 Is he a pastor? Michael Unbroken 49:43 Yes. So he's a pastor. Lesley Logan 49:45 Black guy?Michael Unbroken 49:45 Heavyset black dude.Lesley Logan 49:46 Love him. Love him. Michael Unbroken 49:48 Super (inaudible) very boomingLesley Logan 49:51 He has a voice for pastorship. Michael Unbroken 49:54 One of the probably most prolific speakers of our age. I don't necessarily align in a lot of ways with him. But you don't have to. You don't have to. This is one things I think all the time. Like, you don't have to always like people to learn from them. And he said something so fascinating that I think applies to everything in life. And I think about this almost every day, literally almost every day. He goes new levels, new devils. And that's what I think about in this journey. Because it's like, as we continue to progress and grow, like the next thing is coming. I think about that all the time. It's like Fuck, man. Like this idea that it's gonna get easy if slash when, doesn't exist.Lesley Logan 50:39 No, I interviewed Ripley Rader. And she had that idea. She's a, you probably don't get these ads, Michael. But I do. She's got these amazing pants look on everybody, right. And so I interviewed her and she had said to her first PR team, she's like, Oh, my God, it's going to be so much easier when x and they looked at her and said, No, you'll just work more. It'll, you'll get there. And then you'll just keep working. Like, it's not easier when and I think if you the sooner you can learn that, the less disappointed you'll be in life. And the more opportunities you'll actually look for TD, TD, he was on Oprah years ago, you guys, I don't know how long ago, but I was I was listening to like, you know, Oprah Supersoul podcast, which is like clips of her show. And this woman was like telling a story. And then it got her life got worse, and her life got worse. And they cut her off. And they said, Stop with the story, because it's just a story. And they're like, if you actually want to move forward with your life, you have to let that go. You have to start, you have to stop holding yourself to the story and your life being what it is because of this instead going what is possible right now. And he told his whole story about some dog, boy, the mom was hit by a car. And so she owned like, she only worked with three legs. And so you drag one of her back legs and so that all the puppies drag their legs. And the reality is it's like they didn't have to they had functioning legs, but they were following along with their mom. And it really we go oh my gosh, like, if I like I don't have kids. But if I don't work on myself, I don't actually figure out how to make things happen then everyone who does get impacted by me will do things the same way just based on observing me. So I want to like better myself the best I can. So I'm not leading people to drag a leg when they don't need to. Michael Unbroken 52:17 Yeah, that's so good. You know, it's funny, as I just came back from Indianapolis, I grew up there. My little brother just graduated the police academy. And I was having a conversation with my other brother as he was like getting ready to go on stage and do all this shit. Or it might have been after it's one of the I don't remember kind of like that windows all mushed into one time. And he goes, this wouldn't have happened if it wasn't for you talking about me. Because if you go look at my life, 25 years old, I'm morbidly obese, smoking two packs a day drinking myself to sleep. I'm massively in debt. I got my car got repoed my fucking girlfriend found out I was cheating on her with like 18 people it was I'm not exaggerating, exaggerating that at all. One of my brothers literally goes never talked to me again, you're not my brother, like my life was complete shambles 13 years ago. And last week, this brother looks at me and goes, this wouldn't be possible without you. And it all comes down to this what you just said. It's like people are watching. They're paying attention. They are looking at you. They're following you. They're tracking you. They're measuring you. And it's like, I decided to take my brother's to a Tony Robbins event. Because even though I'm the trauma guy, and I'm the coach, and you know, all the books in the podcast, and billboards in Times Square of like, don't give a fuck, they're my brothers. They could not care less. Right. They care, but like, less. Lesley Logan 53:45 Yeah, it's true.Michael Unbroken 53:47 And so I take them to Tony, and like, their wives are different. But that started with me, or 13 years ago, when my lowest moment I was enough. I had enough of my own bullshit. And it's like, you keep dragging that leg and you wonder why your community sucks. Why Your family is failing. Why your money sucks. Why your relationship is garbage. Why? It's always someone else's problem. Like look in the mirror. You were homeless. It was your fault. Lake, you know what I mean? I'm literally talking to you. Yeah, it's like, it's like, you look at that, and people go, No, it's not your fault. Um, so life is so hard. It's like for everyone. Yeah. So why do you think you're special? Lesley Logan 54:30 Yeah, I I, one thing I'm really grateful for is my, my, my parents. My dad did a really good job

FMCSA is limiting the amount of regulatory relief granted when a regional emergency is declared. OOIDA's Jay Grimes joins us to discuss that – and the continuing contest for a new speaker of the U.S. House. Also, a truck driver is using her truck and trailer to bring awareness to missing and murdered indigenous people. We'll speak with her about her efforts and why this message is an important one to spread. And what sort of advice would you give four-wheelers if you had the chance? One trucker recently did just that, writing a blog post that's going viral. We'll hear from Ron Mayes of Eureka, Kan. 0:00 – Newscast  10:07– FMCSA limits emergency relief 25:00– Expanding awareness of the missing 39:28 – Trucker offers four-wheelers some advice

Brad and Lesley revisit an enlightening conversation with Rebecca Zung, a leading authority on narcissism negotiation. Delve deep into the complexities of interacting with narcissistic personalities, the significance of self-worth, and the necessity of boundary-setting. Listen now for actionable strategies to handle narcissists and reclaim your autonomy.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co . And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:The underlying drivers of narcissistic behavior and how to recognize them.Effective strategies to end toxic narcissistic relationships and reclaim your life.Actionable steps to navigate and protect yourself from narcissistic manipulation.Empowering methods to establish and enforce healthy boundaries with narcissists.Proven tactics to shift from a defensive stance to an empowered offense for personal freedomEpisode References/Links:Andrea Maida's YouTube ChannelPreorder Rebecca Zung's Book: Slay the BullyCambodia Pilates RetreatJoin our email list!Profitable Pilates book by Lesley Logan  If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox.Join us at our Cambodia Retreat - Oct. 8-13, 2023Get your free Athletic Greens 1 year supply of Vitamin D3+K2 and 5 free travel packsGet your discount for some Toe Sox using the code: LESLEYBe It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy Webinar ResourcesWatch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable PilatesSocial MediaInstagramFacebookLinkedInEpisode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  There's nothing wrong with you. Everything about you is why they attach themselves to you. So you just need to really recognize the signs of when a narcissist is coming your way.Lesley Logan 0:03  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 0:16  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It Interview Recap. My co-host, Brad and I are going to dig into the actionable convo I had with Rebecca Zung in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that one now, you must, because you need to. Go back and listen to that one and then come back and join us. You can also listen to this first and then go listen to that. But y'all this is one of the guests that was on my like I want on my show. When we first started this podcast, I heard her on To the People Podcast. And I had her on my list (Brad: that was on the wish list). And then do you all remember when I had that girls' weekend? I think I talked about this on the podcast. I don't think she know how this worked out. I was on a girls' weekend and with those girls, I just met on the internet and I said come out to Vegas and we had like a girls' weekend. And she's like one of the girls like well, what do you need? How can I support you? And I was like I want Rebecca Zung on my podcast not thinking she knew her. And she goes, oh, shoot she's my friend. And I was like, what? You should go and text her. She literally texted her at the bar and Rebecca Zung said, I'm wrapping up my book. So reach out to me after September 1. And Carrie said would you prefer email or text? And she said email. So literally after like September 1, Carrie was like, and she's one of our recent guests. She said, hey, Rebecca, she said, this is Lesley (inaudible) and now she's on my podcast and yeah, crazy right? The interview was a while back, but she requested that it came out during her book launch, which you can go get her books (Brad: Which is pretty much now.) Pretty much now. So anyways, today is September 28, 2023. It is Remember Me Thursday. The purpose of today is to share the importance of pet adoption and shedding light on all orphan pets, waiting in shelters and rescues. Oh my god. (Brad: Yeah) I torture myself because I do look at the Nevada SPCA. (Brad: Yes, you do.) I know. I just I do and I like watch their videos. But I reallyBrad Crowell 3:15  I was I was like, on offensive of getting that red nose. He was fucking cute. (Lesley: So cute.) He's a good dog. Oh my god. But four dogs and two humans in a van. (Lesley: No, no) It's too much.Lesley Logan 3:29  We promised ourselves we would try out two dogs. (Brad: Oh) I'm sure it won't stay that way. Because now three is too many. But you know, here we are. But at any rate, if you cannot adopt if you live in a place where you cannot adopt, you cannot foster which by the way you can be someone who fosters if you like I travel a lot, you can actually be a foster. And you can tell a shelter or charity like I can foster for these two weeks. (Brad: Right) You know, and then I'm going to be gone. And like youBrad Crowell 3:58  or even if you're not allowed, like let's say you live in an apartment and you can't have a pet. You can actually volunteer to just walk the dogs. (Lesley: You can walk the dogs.) I used to do that. Just drive down a mile down the street. There was a couple of shelters and they always needed help walking dogs.Lesley Logan 4:14  Oh, yeah. We used to walk the shelter dogs when they were at the vet. That's right. Yeah. Anyways, it's I promise you like, especially if you're lonely, especially if you're going through a lot. There's something really special about like, just taking a dog who has no family for a walk. Yeah, it really does fill your soul. They're so loving and they just want to be loved. So anyways, the other thing is you can donate like find a charity that you can donate to because your money will help them help dogs get rescued and also help them get placed. Shout out to we listened to a podcast Keith Olbermann and every single night he actually talks about a dog in need. Yeah, and everything. Most of the dogs I would probably I'm not like a small dog person. But like I I love how he highlights them and so he can't adopt them. Also, I don't know maybe we should just like it's Little hard for us because our podcast comes out. You know, it's we don't get to record same day. We don't have the luxury of being Keith. But um, I do want to figure out how to like, I just keep going adopt this dog people.Brad Crowell 5:11  Yeah.Lesley Logan 5:12  So go do that this week. You may have caught that I was going live with Andrea Maida on YouTube (Brad: Over the past two weeks.) Yeah, yeah, it's happening. So Andrea Maida and I are dear friends, and we used to do a YouTube series together, couples struggle is real. And then we did tequila, tequila talks. And then Lesley Logan 5:28  (Inaudible) Pilates and tequila, y'all.Lesley Logan 5:36  We just answered Pilates. We didn't do Pilates and drink tequila. We drink [tequila] and answered your question. Yeah. And YouTube recently allowed different YouTube YouTubers to go live together. So we did one on my, my channel, one on her channel, and we're answering your questions. And so check them out. You can find them on my YouTube channel, which is youtube.com/@onlinepilatesclasses. Yes, you need the @ symbol. I think it's weird, but you know, it's Google. They know what they're doing. And then I believe Andrea is the same youtube.com/@pilatesandrea yes, you need the @ symbol babe. He's nodding because I'm correct. If you're watching on YouTube.Lesley Logan 5:39  She's totally right. Yeah, I'm impressed.Lesley Logan 6:23  Yeah. So anyways, you can just go slashonlinepilatesclasses. It doesn't work, you have to use the @ symbol. Brad Crowell 6:27  Yeah, hers is not @Andrea Maida. (Lesley: No. It's PilatesAndrea.) Oh, PilatesAndrea Yeah. Yes, that's what it is.Lesley Logan 6:37  I know. (Brad: Subscribe) Links will be in the show notes and you should like and subscribe both Ding, ding. That's what the bell does. Ding, ding. So all that'll be in the show notes. And then we are really even much closer to getting on a plane and going to Cambodia for our retreat.Brad Crowell 6:55  I am so fired up like, I can't wait. Lesley Logan 6:57  Also because we have a couple like after the retreat ends, one of our retreaters are staying longer. And and the next retreat that's starting up doesn't really happen until that Sunday. And so I want to go to Kulen to the elephant thing. Brad Crowell 7:10  Yeah. Well, I don't know how we didn't know this. But there's an elephant sanctuary about an hour and a half outside the city. That the only one I knew about before was like 12 hours drive away. And I was like, well, that's complicated. (Lesley: That's not happening.) We never really even tried to plan that. But I just found out this one, just north of a Siem Reap. And it turns out our amazing tour guide Peach, she literally knows the people who run it. (Lesley: Of course, she does.) She goes there often. So you know. Lesley Logan 7:37  Yeah, so we're gonna we're gonna make that happen. I hope my fingers are crossed. (Brad: I'm very excited about that idea.) No, no. Does that mean we can also go to the waterfall?Brad Crowell 7:44  Yeah, well, maybe we're there. Why not? It'll be Saturday.Lesley Logan 7:48  So that is stuff that we do. Obviously, that doesn't always happen on the retreat. That's something we're doing after the retreat. But like, if you stay after the retreat, you know, and we're there, there's adventures to do. In fact, we don't have to be there. You can go to adventures and stay at our place. So it's super fun. Brad Crowell 8:04  We do Airbnb that out when we're not there with with retreaters. So yeah.Lesley Logan 8:10  Lesleylogan.co/retreat.Brad Crowell 8:11  Yeah. And if you are looking for a spot to take your retreat to, we do all the logistics, and we have the whole thing set up where you can effectively take your group, we'll handle all the legwork, and you can teach them your thing and then effectively run the program that we've created with the food and the touring and the experience and the the hotels and all the things you know all of it. So.Lesley Logan 8:34  Yeah. And then November fourth and fifth I'm in Chicago with Erika Quest teaching a week of Pilates workshops. We were so excited to team up again. We'll also actually be doing that in December. That's gonna be a fun trip. Oh, I'm gonna have less oh, you might not know this. I'm staying later. (Brad: Come on.) I am. So it ends on Sunday.Brad Crowell 8:53  I'll handle the dogs, babe. I got this.Lesley Logan 8:55  I'm staying with Peter. Peter Spinelli is gonna meet me in Chicago and we're gonna do a couple days.Brad Crowell 9:01  Breaking news. Breaking news, everyone. Internal family news here.Lesley Logan 9:06  And when I come back, I'm gonna go to Arizona. Brad Crowell 9:09  What? What do you mean? Where? Where are you going? Lesley Logan 9:12  Oh, I use those points to get like an incredible hotel. My mom is coming out to visit.Brad Crowell 9:18  I knew this. (Lesley: You knew this part.) I knew that part, but I didn't realize that it was right after Chicago.Lesley Logan 9:23  I'll be. I'll be home for 24 hours. Brad Crowell 9:26  Oh, okay. Yeah. All right. I'll just keep watching the dogs. Yeah, I got this. Lesley Logan 9:28  Yeah, you do. This is payback for that month you were in Cambodia. I get one week. Anyways. But the things you can attend of that entire conversation is November fourth and fifth in Chicago. With Erika Quest, you'll need to make sure you're on our email list to get that information because I don't have a link right now.Brad Crowell 9:46  Go to opc.me/emails Lesley Logan 9:49  Yep. And you want to do that same thing to understand what's going to happen with our winter tour because our winter tour we go from Las Vegas to Philly area (Brad: Yeah) and back which means lots of citiesBrad Crowell 10:00  There are so many. And honestly, this is going to be way different than our previous tours. I think there's going to be a handful more locations, we're going to be teaching workshops instead of just classes, this time around. We're going to be bringing the decks with us. So and that's, you know, we're we are already sponsored by Balanced Body for this leg of the for this tour. And we got a bunch of other companies that we're talking with right now. So it's going to be an amazing experience. We cannot wait to announce the cities. Yeah. And we'll be doing all that at the end of or close to the end of this. Probably right around when this is coming out, actually is when we're going to be publicly announcing that so.Lesley Logan 10:42  Yes, we want to be on those emails. Yeah. (Brad: Do it. Do it. Do it.) Because they're all limited spaces. Yeah. Okay. Before we get into Rebecca Zung's incredible advice do we have an audience question?Brad Crowell 10:52  Yeah, we do. This one was awesome. We got a YouTube question from @WayneFurquharson9007Brad Crowell 10:57  The way you said that it makes you think that they found a new way to say fuck you.Brad Crowell 11:07  I know. I'm not sure I don't think that (Lesley: It is Furquharson.) It could be Furquharson. (Lesley: Furquharson) I'm gonna go with that. We're gonna go with that y'all. Lesley Logan 11:18  I'm gonna Google the person. It's an incredible, amazing question. So I can't imagine that's a fake name. Brad Crowell 11:23  Well, it was a comment on one of our videos about comparing different like explaining the different pieces of a Pilates equipment. I said, Wow, that was amazing insight into different pieces of equipment, it'd be really nice to see some equipment comparisons. So you know, comparing the different chairs and comparing the performers, that's really complicated, because there's no place where there's like a showroom of reformers. (Lesley: No, no.) So I don't know how we would do that. (Lesley: I did say that in my response to that.) You did. You did. Yeah. But she said also recommendations for training providers. What? And then the question, What makes you an all around practitioner of Pilates? Do you need to study classical? Do you study modern? Is there like a scientific version of Pilates? Like, what is the best path here? Lesley Logan 12:04  Yeah, so first of all, when it comes to training providers like and when I could decide if this is like teacher training providers, or like, who to take from, so if it is teacher training providers, you want to get my book, Profitable Pilates, Everything but the Exercises because the first few chapters are really actually talking about what you need to ask when it comes to becoming a teacher. So you pick the right program. As you're asking, like, how do I find a teacher trainer? Or sorry, a teacher that can train me as a human being who just wants to practice Pilates and be an all around practitioner? Well, this is complicated.Brad Crowell 12:49  Well, before you keep going, if you're looking at that book, it's profitablepilates.com/bookLesley Logan 12:54  Oh, that's okay. So um, so here's, here's the thing. I did a video on YouTube, about like, the truth about Pilates. And in there I discussed like, what you should be looking for when it comes to a Pilates teacher, because I think it's extremely important that you are armed with how to how do I know that this person is the right teacher for me. And it doesn't mean how many years experience they have, but their foundation of their teaching is important. So looking for looking for a teacher who has a comprehensive training is going to be really awesome. And you're looking for things like in bio, you're looking for things to say comprehensive, or 450 hours or more in their bio. Now, you because I know a lot of people teach Matt and listen to this. Hold on. I fucking love you. That's how I got started. You're an amazing teacher, I bet you're the best at what you do. However, somebodyLesley Logan 13:51  wants me an all around practitioner, ideally, they have access to their equipment. So I'm not this is not a diss on you. It's just like answering all around practitioner question. As far as classical better than modern versus scientific.Lesley Logan 14:05  You will, that's going to be a little bit more of a personal like, like a personality style and also at finding the teacher that you feel sees your body best. I am a classical teacher. However, some of my friends are among the best contemporary teachers out there. Shout out to Erika, and Portia and Joy and all these people, Jessica Blount like all these people who are amazing at what they do, I would not say that I'm better or they're better than me based on the style. What makes a teacher the best for you is their curiosity in your body and how it's going and their ability to take you on a journey that makes you stronger than you were the day before. And so if your teacher is constantly telling you what not to do, they're counting a lot. They're overcorrecting, you feel like you do nothing correctly. That is not going to make you the best all around practioner. You are looking for people who can be a coach who can be a guide who encourage movement, and who are okay, letting you make mistakes and be on a journey. Brad is smiling, so I'm just gonna let him jump in.Brad Crowell 15:11  While I'm just laughing about our last episode where we were talking about cults. You know, these two episodes came back to back. (Brad: Back to back y'all.)Lesley Logan 15:22  But they're also right after the pastor, so Brad Crowell 15:26  Two pastors and former pastor in a row, Adrian and then Nikole. (Lesley: I know.) Yeah. (Lesley: And then neither, they're not pastors anymore. Anyways.) No, but yeah, I was gonna say, I think that, you know, there's a weird, there's a weird there's a weird what's the right word? It's, you know, acceptance, that in restaurants that the chef is a tyrant. There's a weird acceptance that in the dance world that the teacher is so hard and harsh and crazy. And I think that all those people can go fuck themselves. Because that's bullshit. And in the Pilates world, if you end up with a teacher who is, is like, this is the only way everyone else is wrong, then that they they're wrong. They are 100% wrong. And I will happily tell them that. Lesley Logan 16:28  And that happens on both sides of the contemporary and classical. I'll suppose it's not likeBrad Crowell 16:33  It's not Yeah, that happens. That like the reality that was happening in that scenario is that they are creating division in the Pilates community. (Lesley: It happens in yoga.) It happens in yoga, happens, it totally happens in yoga. I mean, I, I experienced that personally. But it happens to Pilates. And I think it's the worst thing that we can be doing to ourselves in this industry, is because we're creating the division in this industry. And it's wrong. It's wrong. Lesley Logan 17:03  And also like, it doesn't allow either the client nor teacher to be on a journey to learn. And so I don't you ask about scientific and I'll say this, I know anatomy. I have studied it. In fact, it was a big part of my major before I switched majors, I have taken more than my fair share of anatomy classes. I don't use anatomical terms ever when I teach. And it's not because I don't know them. It's because in Pilates the whole body should be working. So I'm not going to talk to your rhomboids. Because I'm not going to talk to your Supersprint anus, I'm not going to talk to your prehensile whatever. I don't know if you do that this is not a knock on you, if that works for you. But that is when as my teacher Jay Grimes, he said in Joseph's Pilates studio he never once heard an anatomical term, the body was to move. And so you to find a teacher or an or teacher trainer, who it's not about letting people just be sloppy, it's about letting the body tell you what it means. If you let a body move without being micromanaged. And this is what I work with my photos and my mentorship eLevate, the body, if you let the body move, and you just watch it, it's going to tell you what it needs. It's going to tell you where it's getting hung up. And then you get to ask yourself, Where else can I help them? Where can I do this? Where should we go right now? And you get to be this curious person.Brad Crowell 18:30  I just want to say that the exactly the curiosity. I wasn't there clearly wasn't alive when Joseph Pilates was creating different pieces of equipment. But that curiosity is what kept him saying, Hmm, this person isn't getting the thing. So what if I made another piece of equipment that would help isolate the thing or do the thing, right? I mean, if you go back and you look at the different, like, go go to Balanced Body go to like go to their library, Ken Andelman has been collecting schematics and like history of Pilates for decades. Right? So, Ken Andelman has been collecting, you know, all these schematics and everything for years. And they all have different, they're all slightly different. He kept changing and modifying and changing and changing and changing. Right. So, you know, he didn't I don't even I can't put words in his mouth. But I would imagine that there wasn't one way to do the thing. Right, because he kept making new pieces of equipment to do the thing.Lesley Logan 19:43  Well, yeah. And yes, and yes. Yes.Brad Crowell 19:47  To get to the point to where he wanted them to be.Lesley Logan 19:50  Yeah. No, like, if you couldn't do it on the reformer. He would take you to the Cadillac, correct? Yes, yes. Correct. Yeah, I think that's a great point. So anyways, to answer your question, It's there's no easy way to find the right teacher for you except to take from different teachers until you find one that you really like. But watch that video that I made on the truth about Pilates, and ask your teacher questions. And if you feel like you're never good enough, then find a different teacher. If you are wanting to be a teacher, then go read my book, because the questions I give you are going to be really awesome for helping you for helping you find the right program that can make it the teacher you want to be.Brad Crowell 20:28  Yeah, I mean, I not having gone down this path personally. But having edited this book, the questions that you ask, allow the reader to look ahead in the future and say, What do I actually want to do with my Pilates career? And then that question and the questions around in those first three chapters will actually allow you to say, well, maybe this isn't the right program for me, or maybe this is the right program for me. And it will equip you with the questions to ask the teacher training program. So that you know what you're actually getting. Yeah, so yeah.Brad Crowell 21:04  All right. Now let's talk about Rebecca Zung. Rebecca Zung is an attorney turned educator who specializes in teaching individuals how to negotiate with narcissists, drawing from her personal experience and professional expertise, and has authored the book Slay the Bully: How to Negotiate with a Narcissist, (Lesley: Which is out now you can go get it.) Yeah. fascinating conversation really made me think about my life and my experience with just people in my life.Lesley Logan 23:11  So here is what I fucking loved. I loved it so much. Like, I don't even need to talk about the rest of the episode why you should watch you should watch and listen to all of it. But I love this. She said they, narcissists, don't attach themselves to you. Because you have so little value. They attach themselves to you because you have so much value. And so if you're like, well, I have these fucking narcissists in my life. Oh my god, I'm like stuck with another narcissist. It's, it's because you're so fucking awesome. And they see how they can utilize that. And I think that is a little what the most important thing to consider because we can get so down on ourselves if we dated another narcissist, or we keep getting sucked into a narcissist in our family or we keep working for one and we can't stop it's because it's, it's not because it's you. Like, it's not your fault that you're fucking awesome. You just have to also like you actually just have to figure out how to recognize the signs and how to exit yourself out of those things. Boundaries are amazing.Brad Crowell 24:13  Yeah, I think like speaking from personal experience, having like inadvertently surrounded myself with narcissists most of my life you know, I always appreciated the idea of being the person behind the person I was that's what how we saw myself. (Lesley: Am I a narcissist?) No, I don't think so. That's the thing. Lesley Logan 24:34  Well that but that's because you like the person you're the person behind this person most of the time. You are doing that, if you keep doing that, am IBrad Crowell 24:42  But because of my operational, all that kind of stuff, right? Like, my like, that's my you know, that's my zone of genius is being able to do the operations I but I needed to do an operations for someone right. And so oh, I ended up working for a narcissist. being best friends with a narcissist being having business partners, like all this kind of stuff. And the reality is, (Lesley: Cause you're so fucking awesome.) Well, thank you. Thank you. That's what my point was ultimately is I'm awesome. No, that's not my point. I appreciate that, babe, you're amazing. Now the point is it wasn't on purpose. No, you know, I, you know, and but but I also didn't really understand what was happening. And unfortunately, those relationships ended badly. You know, where things ended up in like, like, like explosions and fireworks.Lesley Logan 25:41  I guess I didn't What I didn't ask her maybe, is like, can you even in a relationship with a narcissist without a name badly? Like, it's kind of hard. Like, I think as a person who cares? I think you're always going to feel like it didn't end. They're never gonna let you let it end well.Brad Crowell 25:56  Oh, well, it didn't end the way I wanted them. Yeah, I didn't actually want the relationships to end. Yeah. Right. And you know, but there was there was something like, inate like, in me, like that was like, I got to a point where I was like, I can't do the thing anymore, whatever the thing is that needed to happen. And whether, you know, personal, work, business, whatever, like there was, it was like, it was guttural. It was like revolt revulsion to continue down this path. And I couldn't understand it myself. And I really struggled with it for a long time. Because I actually had, you know, I cared for these people. And that was really, really challenging. And but I, you know, and I think that the thing of not blaming yourself, that's hard to do, you know, because you walk away from a relationship that just hand grenaded and you're like, What did I do wrong?Lesley Logan 26:52  Yeah. And she said, you can't actually blame yourself. They're really good at this. Like they're, they're really, really good at what they do. Because they've been, it's, it's part of like, how they became a person in this world. So it's like, this is their habit. And they, if you go back and listen to the whole episode, there's not a single cult leader who's not a narcissist, like they need people who are wanting to make this world a better place to put them up on a pedestal and help them achieve whatever it's they want. So I think like, I think we've every single person listening, this has probably experienced or is experiencing currently a relationship with a narcissist that they're stuck on and having a hard time with. And go listen to this episode, because she's amazing. (Brad: Yeah, it was a great episode) and then probably read her book. And then you have got to get out of like, this is your fault. And that like you did something wrong, and instead start to take the steps to put boundaries up. One of the things I remember one of the reasons why I want to have her on the episode of the show, like, because how do you be till you see it, if you've like, got sucked in with a narcissistic relationship? It is because the only thing you can be is what they need you to be because they're just gonna keep doing it. Right. And she, she's just got some really great actual steps. It's like, when you're working with a narcissist, you're never gonna win the argument. So if they emailed you a list of things you did wrong, like, emailing them back all the ways that wasn't wrong is not they're not gonna go okay. Like you just have toBrad Crowell 28:25  It doesn't fucking matter. I used to get these crazy fucking emails in all caps and red letters from my boss. (Lesley: That's so weird. I can't even read that really well, it just looks like it's screaming at you.) No, but I would. I would. I was just like, changed it read to just emphasize Oh, yeah, dude. Yeah, it was like it was him shouting was what it was through emails. Right. And at first, I was like, oh, man, (as if the all caps didn't) but it got to the point where it was so fucking often I just ignored it. I was like, This is him venting about a thing that I can't solve. And so whatever, you know, and I don't think that benefited our relationship. Lesley Logan 29:02  But actually it benefited you. And also, like she even said, like this one thing that here's one of the things that Rebecca Zung said, you don't you're not going to, no evidence is going to prove that you are right. So you have to if you have to respond back, it needs to be like the time like the simplest sentence. Okay, we'll talk about it at 10:30 on Thursday. Right? Like not going point by point with them because that's what they want you to do. And that's how you always lose. Yeah, you will not win that Yeah. And even with one of the relationships that ended with you and a friend who's a narcissist, that's what they wanted. They wanted to go point by point like this happened on this day and they did this this happened on this and it's like, yeah, all those things happen the way that he thought they happened, but we don't need to go point by point the culmination the culmination of it all is that like, this isn't working and you've been abusive towards me and period. Yeah. Anyways, I just I I want to reiterate that one more time. You are not, you did not put your you are not the reason. There's nothing wrong with you everything about you, it's why they attach themselves to you. So you just need to really recognize the signs of when a narcissist is coming your way. Brad Crowell 30:15  It's not your fault that you're in a relationship with the narcissist. Lesley Logan 30:18  No, they're really fucking good at that. She said it she's the expert. Okay, what did you love?Brad Crowell 30:22  Yeah, love is relative here. But the thing that really struck me was getting out of a relationship with a narcissist is challenging and accusatory and personal and emotional. And she said, when she shared the wisdom from she had a business coach and a guru who, ironically guru from last week, but she said her business coach, what said, listen, it's not what the narcissists say. It's how it lands for you. Meaning you cannot take it personally. You can't. It's if you do, you will destroy yourself. You know, and what she started to talk about, which I thought was really interesting, was agreeing with how the narcissist feels without agreeing to the narcissist's point. Right, and, you know, so if you've ever been in a relationship with someone who has borderline personality disorder, you know, or is a narcissist, it's the same thing. Like, you need to acknowledge how they're feeling. And they're allowed to feel the feels. But what they're saying is, might not actually be reality, and may not be true. And so if you listen to what they're saying, then and personalizing it, you know, it may really, really, really hurt you. But you can't let you cannot take it personally. Right. She talked about the Four Agreements, take nothing personally in the Four Agreements. Right. And, you know, you the way to have a conversation and to like, I don't know, I think her book is about winning an argument, right? Lesley Logan 32:25  She has, she has another like, she has other stuff out about winning arguments. Brad Crowell 32:30  Yeah. Okay. And, and basically, you know, you have to acknowledge what they're feeling in order for them to, like, take a pause. And so like, Hey, I understand what you're saying. And I understand how this makes you feel. Yeah. And then you get to move on. And that allows you to not take it personally. Yeah. And that's challenging to do. It's really, really hard to do. Lesley Logan 32:52  I think like, what really, this is, like, y'all, if you are really good at your boundaries, it's really hard for a narcissist to take over. Because like your boundaries, using your boundaries, in the beginning relationship will let people know, like one of my clients, she is so friggin like badass about like, she tells a job. She's like, I actually don't work more than eight hours in a day. You don't pay me to do that. Salary does not mean I overworked myself. She doesn't tell them in the interview, she waits until she's hired. And as soon as they do that, she's like, Hey, I've noticed over the last three days, the amount of meetings you've had me in have required me to have caused me to not really get my work done in the day. I would just like you to know that because if you're gonna keep putting me in six hours of meetings, and I have six hours of work, I mean, they're not gonna get the work done. Not gonna be the meetings. And they'll often like, oh, well, like you're part of the team. She's like, I am on this team. And being part of this team means the amount of work I can give you eight good hours a day. And I'm like, Are you like, both was a part of as like, oh my god, like, are you gonna get in trouble? Brad Crowell 33:57  Are you gonna get fired, likeLesley Logan 33:58  It's not what I get paid to do. (Brad: That's true.) That's not it. Yeah. And so like, so she has crazy bosses and, and like she does not let them push her around. And she doesn't let them abuse her time. So it makes it really hard for them to push these like narcissistic things on her because she's like, that's a boundary. I don't let people cross.Brad Crowell 34:20  It was it took me years to get to that point at my job. Where, oh, where my boss would like, what? What threat? Well, he would just hit drop. Do you remember the right hand grenade into a conversation of like, what about this thing that like we haven't talked about in four months?Lesley Logan 34:37  We were at a dinner, and he threw a hissy fit on a cell phone password. And like he was texting you. It was like very early on in our relationship. It was something about his daughter's cell phone. It has nothing to do with you. It's like not even your job. There's like someone else who does this. And he was like having a hissy fit about this whole thing. And we had to go. We're at dinner. Like there's nothing you can do. about this. Brad Crowell 35:00  Yeah, like what I would do in the meetings, like what I got to the point of because I was tired of getting gray hairs was, I got to the point of saying, hey, yesterday, you asked me to do this. Today, I blocked out time to do this. And what you're telling me today is priority is going to affect the thing you asked me to do yesterday. So I am super happy to do either one. You tell me which one is priority, and I will get that done. I think it will take me four hours to do this project and six hours into this project, your call. And when I got black and white with the amount of fucking time it would take to do the things that he was asking me to do. All of a sudden, my life became a whole lot easier. Because it's he's like, it's funny. It's not unreasonable when you put it that way. But he's unreasonable if you don't, because the expectation is, you're just gonna get it all done. Right. And if you actually spell out what that means, and you're not being angry or confrontational about it, you let them make the decision, then I was able to actually survive the intensity of it. Because I effectivelyLesley Logan 36:08  You just kind of disarmed them. You like,Brad Crowell 36:12  yeah, let him make the decision. You tell me, man, I'll do whatever you want. You know.Lesley Logan 36:16  That's such a great gift. I think, you know, then again, it comes to boundaries, though. Brad Crowell 36:20  Yeah, that was, it took me four or five years to get to the point where I was like, I can't fucking work till two in the morning when I'm at home anymore. Not doing it. So yeah.Lesley Logan 36:30  Yeah. Anyways, oh, she also. You also like had, I just want to say like, hurt people hurt people. I think that's a really important thing to add in here. Before you go to the Be It Action Items. Like, you know, it'sBrad Crowell 36:45  She said, people treat you the way that they see themselves. Yeah. You know, and that's part of that, like, the one if they're lashing out and being accusatory about something, you know, it's very likely that that's how they see themselves.Lesley Logan 37:00  Yeah. I just, I mean, like, my goodness, we'll have to have her back. But we all need to read her books. And then we can have her back, BookBub. Just, I, it's, you know, it's so easy for those who are listening to this you. I felt years ago, I remember driving so I was in Orange County. And I remember hearing the guy who was probably a narcissist actually. From Do you remember on MTV, like there was there was a they had a show. It was like a nightly radio show. And it was with Oh my God, it was the doctor who Oh, my gosh, there's two guys.Brad Crowell 37:34  I was definitely not allowed to watch MTV. Lesley Logan 37:36  I was in college, but there was you guys. Somebody shout it out (inaudible). They're like (Brad: Drew Pinsky.) Yes. Drew, Dr. Drew, and it was this. They had a late-night radio show that would also air on MTV. And it was with I can't think of his name. I think it's a big forehead and he ended up with his own late-night show (Brad: Loveline.) I used to love Adam Carolla. Yes. I mean, yeah, I don't think he's I think they I think both have been canceled or at least one anyways, um, Dr. Drew was in an interview way back. This was a radio show so it was like this is way before podcast you guys I was in Orange County it's in college. And he said that there was an increased this is what there was no Instagram there's no Tiktok there's no snap that at the time it was like just MySpace. And like Facebook was like barely a blip on our screen. Just like MySpace right? And at that time he said social media is causing this increased narcissistic behavior. (Brad: Hmm.) And now it is insane like some of my friends I would consider it like a narcissist in a weird way just because the way they like see themselves and the way they do things. They're not a narcissist to me because like, they see me as like an equal with them and like, you know, I've got boundaries. But at any rate, there's putting yourself out there as as this person who knows these answers these things, it's really easy to either become a cult leader or at the very least slightly be a narcissist and so it's it's because of the way the world is causing us to put ourselves out there. That's like, you can be raised like this and I also think parenting so so I just I really wanted to have her on because in being until we see it, if you are sucked into a relationship with a narcissist, they will cause you every single day to not be the person you want wanting to be. Brad's got the facial look, he's looking something up. Are you just discovered loveline in this moment?Lesley Logan 37:47  No, I just decided to search for does social media increase narcissism (Lesley: And when did they say?) well I don't know the study or whatever. This is just a LinkedIn post but the answer is yes. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know if it's I don't know who backed it up. But you know, there's there's like (inaudible).Lesley Logan 40:00  Do social media create narcissism or are narcissists attracted to social media? Interesting.Brad Crowell 40:05  That's another question.Lesley Logan 40:08  I'm sure there's a study, someone could send it to us, okay.Brad Crowell 40:13  All right. So finally, let's talk about those Be It Action Items. What bold executable intrinsic are targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Rebecca Zung?Lesley Logan 40:24  Are you going first?Brad Crowell 40:25  I'm gonna go first. So, she said she talked about the three approach, which she said are step one, don't run from the narcissist. Step two, make a U turn. And step three, break free. Right? So step one, she advises you to start creating boundaries unless it was talking about that this entire episode. Such as you cannot speak to me that way. Or, like your client said, I'm happy to do that tomorrow. But it's after six o'clock. Right? So observe the situation. The hardest part of it is to like, be objective, not subjective, right? Subjective means it's what you're feeling objective is what a third party would feel. She says she emphasized that it's not not to feel bad about choices made in survival mode, you know, because it's so weird. Thinking back to my experience, where I finally drew boundaries, where I said, six o'clock is my line. I'm not working after six o'clock. And that took me years to get to that point. Then I got a phone call one time. And I was about to go live on a show. I was hosting a show. (Lesley: Oh, yeah. You used to have a radio show.) Yeah, I used to have a TV radio show on the internet. And 10 minutes before we were about to go live. I got some fucking dumb, bullshit, like, explosion, unnecessary thing that had to be resolved that exact second with my immediate boss who was reporting to the owner. And I basically told him, I can't do it. And he freaked out on me. And I said, I will call you tomorrow. I'm about to go live. I cannot be having this conversation right now. You're fucking with my headspace. I have to do what I'm doing in my life. And my life is not my job. And that was like, he basically wrote me off after that conversation. And like, you know, and but he couldn't fire me because the boss wouldn't let him. But it was the first time that I ever actually drew a line in the sand. You know, so. And I actually felt like that was survival mode, because that's not my normal. I don't usually like confrontation don't usually get into confrontation. And that was the that was the very beginning of what I started to embrace confrontation in that job. Because in order to get out, I had to start being confrontational. So you know, I like that. She says, don't feel bad about the choices you make in survival mode. Step, you're gonna need fucking counsel also after that.Lesley Logan 43:00  Sidenote. I saw someone the other day, like, Oh, my God, I'm so sorry. Like the pandemic. I just got in touch with you. And I was like, you know, apologies for not staying in touch with people during the pandemic, period. End of story. Yeah. Everybody in the world was in survival mode. Absolutely. No apologies. I'm not worried about it. If you have been staying away from me for a year, because you've been embarrassed about that. Please. No.Brad Crowell 43:26  Yeah, she said, step two is to make a U turn. Right. And she started explaining her slay method, which I thought was super fun, which is strategy, leverage, anticipate, and then you focus on you. Right? So strategy, you can't start creating a strategy until you set those boundaries. Step one, right. It involves creating a vision, a goal and action steps in your life, you need to understand what you actually want for you. Because if you don't know what you want for you, you're going to just we asked their vision.Lesley Logan 43:58  That's the whole thing, right? Like, they'll say, like, if you don't have goals, someone else will make sure you have a goal. (Brad: That's right.) So like, that's just how it goes, yeah.Brad Crowell 44:05  Then you need to, you know, then you need to identify what leverage you may have in the situation. For me, what I was getting out of my job quitting that job, like he used to sue people who would quit. So how did I quit without getting fucking sued That was I remember that that was a big, it was insane. Right? How do you get out of that? Right? And knowing that it was such a cult, it was, oh, there's no question. But what I realized is that the number one priority for him was family. So I leveraged my family. So step, so part of the slay method is leverage. And I leveraged my family and my appeal to him when I left was my wife is starting a business. And I need to support her in that business. Every single thing he ever said to me for the years that I worked for him was why he does things for his family. And he could not say, you can't do that, because he's stands for family. So I leveraged that that was the leverage I had in that situation. (Lesley: You're so smart.) Took me a long time to figure it out. I appreciate that. Number three part third part A is anticipation be two steps ahead of the narcissist understand what type of narcissist you're dealing with covert, grandiose or malignant. I don't know the difference between those three, I didn't look those up. (Lesley: She goes into those, I think in her book.) In her book, she talks about them, so it's worth reading. And then finally, why is focusing on you prioritizing your mindset shift from being on the defensive to being on the offense. And that, you know, it was like, it just took, it actually took me getting to a breaking point of like, I can't keep living like this, I'm gonna die, to get to the point where I was like, I need to prioritize me, then I started setting boundaries, right, then I started trying to play on my escape, effectively, right. And that leads to step three, which is breaking free. The true breaking free is understanding that there will always be narcissists in this world. So if and when you extricate yourself from the situation you may be in right now, which could be a mom could be, you know, a sibling, could be a boss, it could be a partner, a business partner, you know, like, the reality is, there are narcissists. And now that, you know, it will be easier to identify them in the future. But again, having somebody to talk to about it, is going to really benefit you. So what about you?Lesley Logan 46:24  So I love this, she said. She said, If there's only one thing she could leave people with is that you alone define your value. You alone define your value. So you have to, you have to like and that's that can be really hard. Like she talked about a story of how like, she was like afraid that she's gonna be seen as inconsistent or a flake. Because her her jobs like took her all over the map. And her coach said, Well, you can let people see you as a flake, or you can present your self as the attorney who has a financial background.Brad Crowell 47:01  Yeah. So she went from being an attorney to a finance, like consultant like, like personal finance consultant back to being an attorney. Yeah. And she she said, I'm, I feel like people are looking at me like you just jump around. What are you even doing?Lesley Logan 47:15  Yeah. And she, but because she had that experience. Now she's the like, she's the best attorney who's got that experience. And so she can really see things from a different place. By the way, she didn't have any Yeah, she has like the number one like divorce firm. Like, she's like one of the like, it's fucking amazing.Brad Crowell 47:28  One of the top firms in Florida and she was, you know, some of her clients were billionaires.Lesley Logan 47:34  Which, when you're doing divorce, you gotta know the finances real Well, anyways, she said, people will think what we tell them to think, right? I mean, this goes back to like, the most certain person in the room wins. So she said, like, how you show up is everything. This is being it until you see it, guys, this is being it till you see it. Your presentation and demeanor dictates how people perceive and interact with you. So here's the deal. This is something oh my god, I'm so grateful I was in debate team in college, and my in my speech in debate classes. They said, if you make a mistake in a speech, don't acknowledge it. No one knows you made a mistake until you say, Oh, I forgot to say or I wanted to say, oh, I want to do this. That's right. Just either if you can find a way to add it back in somewhere else than do or just leave it out. And like that is a kind of a thing. Like when I am presenting workshopsBrad Crowell 48:27  It takes thinking on your feet to do that. Lesley Logan 48:28  It really does. I when I'm presenting workshops, like of course, if I'm not looking, if I don't have my notes in my hand, I'm going to go off the roadmap and go, Oh, I forgot this. And I don't say Oh, I forgot this. I say oh, I want to make sure we do this or hey, let's actually take a moment to talk about this. Some sort of way segue to bring that topic in. Because if I go oh man, I forgot this. Oh my like, how, like, when I was in retail, I had this one guy who worked for me. And he had a lot of shit going on his life. And at one point, he was like, in between housing, all this stuff. I was really worried about him. You would never know. Because he said when he crossed the threshold from the marble of the mall to the oh my god, there's like a special kind of like a tile tile. It's like yeah, like travertine tile. He like came in and he he told himself as soon as he went from the shiny marble floor to the travertine tile, he would go it's showtime. And he and it's and he would just do it show time and that would let him know that in this moment how I let people see me and so people you guys he ended up getting a job as one of the like highest managers and LVHM store which is like one of the stores like for Louis Vuitton, you know Balenciaga, Bulgari-owned store so hard to get a job in one of those companies, let alone a manager right off the bat. And it's because he decided how they're going to perceive him. He was really good he did. But his resume might not have gotten that job, but he told them how he wanted to be perceived. And I think that's so important. You can you can walk into an interview or you can meet a new client and you can act like oh my God, I hope they liked me or you can go, they're fucking gonna like me. Here's how I show up. Here's how much I'm worth and be really clear about that. Anyways, August is on the show right now, if you're watching on YouTube, because he is just having a needy moment. He's having a day guys. But I hope that this episode really helps give you permission to like, be an amazing human being and not blame yourself for the shit the narcissists you've let in your life. And also that she helps you guide you to getting narcissists out of your life. I'm Lesley Logan.Brad Crowell 50:42  And I'm Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 50:43  Thank you so much for listening, and we want to know how you use these tips in your life tag Rebecca Zung. She will love to hear if you bought her book. Let her know and us know what your favorite takeaways were. And until next time, Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 50:55  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 50:56  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. Brad Crowell 50:56  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan and me, Brad Crowell.  Lesley Logan 50:56  It is produced, edited by the epic team at Disenyo. Brad Crowell 50:56  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music, and our branding by designer and artist Gianfranco Cioffi. Lesley Logan 50:56  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals and Ximena Velazquez for our transcriptions. Brad Crowell 50:56  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all the content to our website. And finally to Meridith Crowell for keeping us all on point and on time. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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What is James Patrick's secret sauce to success in the photography industry? Lesley and Brad dive deep into this phenomenal conversation with James, who deeply believes in the power of specialization and embracing imperfection.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co . And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.  If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox.Be It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipWaitlist for the flashcards deckUse this link to get your Toe Sox!ResourcesWatch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable PilatesSocial MediaInstagramFacebookLinkedInEpisode Transcript:Brad Crowell 0:03  You should absolutely be leaning into your differentiators because it's going to attract the clients that you want to be working with, and that's gonna allow you to set yourself apart from your competition.Lesley Logan 0:08  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Melissa Logan, Plaza's instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt, my friend, friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and be it till you see it. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Brad Crowell 0:46  Oh, and stick around to the very end because we got some outtakes that's been happening. Lesley Logan 0:18  There's always outtakes (Brad: laughs) and the team does collect them for bloopers on the YouTube, but uh, we're adding them into the end of the pod because you know what you need to know that we are not perfect. You're not perfect (Brad: and we're enjoying the process.) and we are enjoying that. So have a good laugh on our behalf. Love you.Welcome back to the Beat Till You see interview recap, where my co-host in life Brad and I are going to dig in into the intuitive combo I had with James Patrick in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that interview, feel free to pause us now. Go back and listen to that one and then come back and join us. Can I just say, if you are listening to this through the onlinepilatesclasses.com app, it's actually really easy to like pick the episode before because it's, they show up as, like, a playlist.Brad Crowell 2:06  Yeah, they show up in order you can just tap on it.Lesley Logan 2:07  Unlike your other apps that shall not be named. Because they listen. Who if you have to like go to the show to click the three dots, go to the show, go to all the episodes and go oh, I want to listen to this one. And then it goes, are you sure you want to listen to that one? Because you were listening to this one. It's like I just wanna listen to the episode. So anyways, shout out to the OPC app. You guys, today is National foam rolling day. Seriously, who knew? I'm sure all the foam rollers. So rock your foam rolling. Not me.Brad Crowell 2:45  Yeah, this week is my sister's getting married on Saturday. So Leslie and I are going to be flying to feel that of yeah, we're going to be looking, we're going to help to set everything up, getting, we're actually I think, I don't know if we were part of the mowing the public lawn in the public sphere. But since we're at a city park, they're literally in a bus that has a lawnmower before we all get started.Lesley Logan 3:14  Oh my god, we're gonna mow the lawn.Brad Crowell 3:16  Yeah!Lesley Logan 3:16  You know I used to mow the lawn. Like I used to trim the hedges around tombstones in a cemetery. Because your family has to do that. And so I would just trim it around my families and I would just like keep going...(Brad: Yeah, sure.) Because otherwise it just gets over ground. Anyways. I didn't know that we were gonna mow the lawn at her wedding. Interesting. I don't know if you and I actually...(Lesley: I'm sure your family will do those things.) Shout out to Meredith shit you hear on the credits and we're so excited for her boyfriend Kyle to become brother in law Kyle.Brad Crowell 3:49  We can call him a fiance. He's allowed to be that...(Lesley: but no, he's gonna be her husband.) Right? He's currently a fiance though.Lesley Logan 3:55  Yeah, it's fine. Yeah. I would love to know from the listeners. How many of them felt weird saying fiance...(Brad: I felt weird.) It felt so weird and you did it twice so like it still felt weird. Sorry!Brad Crowell 4:09  I think at first I hardly said it.Lesley Logan 4:13  Yeah, it's weird anyways, but their marriage is not, we're so excited for them.Brad Crowell 4:16  Yeah, so a big congrats to her and my soon to be brother in law. I guess our soon to be brother law. Kyle.Lesley Logan 4:22  Yeah. I don't know how that works if I'm already an in law, but I'm sure it works out just fine. Anyways, I'm sure there's people who like do charts and can tell us what that is.Brad Crowell 4:31  Yeah. Next week.Lesley Logan 4:32  We are flying to Seoul, Korea. I mean...(Brad: how about that?) I know...(Brad: I can't wait.) I'm so excited. People are like, you're going to Seoul. I'm so jealous. I'm like, I know. I'm jealous of me too. So we'll be teaching Pilates on Tour in Seoul. We'll have the flashcards there and then we're taking a week off in (...) which I'm so excited about. July we're going to be in the UK and BT dubs at the time that we're recording this our UK Mullet Tour Workshop is half sold out. So at the time you're listening to us, there may only be a couple spots left.Brad Crowell 5:05  Yeah. So if you were thinking about joining us in the UK, you know, I heard it's a quick flight from Ireland. I heard it's a quick flight from Poland from other places like in, you know, we got people talking about coming in from Paris. So if that's you, don't sit on this because those weekend passes are selling out and there's only 16 spots. Lesley Logan 5:25  And we chose Leeds because, one, we love Claire Sparrow, shout out to her episode, but also like everybody does London, and it's so important to find and see new places. And we are so excited. So join us there ,the link is in the notes. August. It is not our dog, but the actual month of August. We have our summer West Coast tour, so you can actually get on the waitlist for this at opc.me/tour. Yeah, and then we'll be announcing all that information. Pretty soon. Pretty soon.Brad Crowell 5:51  We got a couple of great tour by sponsors that we can't wait to brag about...(Lesley: Yes.) Coming up. September...(Lesley: Poland.) Oh, yeah, we are coming back to that side of the world. We'll be in Poland go to lesleylogan.co/Poland. It's what September one, two and three years attempt to do it...(Lesley: yeah) it's the very beginning of September.Lesley Logan 6:12  Very beginning of September, I'm actually teaching private sessions there. I've got a couple workshops that are bringing the flashcards and I'm not the only one. There's a couple other teachers there. Jill Crosby, Karen Frischmann. And then Jay Grimes, our teacher will be joining virtually...(Brad: Yeah) this is a really special tour and also our special conference. And it's also small, so absolutely wonderful.Brad Crowell 6:30  And, by the way, this is like a kind of a trial for this, you know, this event. And it would be amazing to sell it out for the host who is doing a lot of work to put it together so that we can repeat these kinds of events in the future.Lesley Logan 6:46  Yeah, and let me just like sign up, if there are things you're like, oh, I want to go. But I'll go next time. Just ask yourself many times you're saying next time because events like this actually are a lot of time and a lot of money.Brad Crowell 6:58  Though it's also, there's like a lot of excitement and fear. Because like this is a first time host for this kind of event. And there's a lot of risk involved in that kind of a thing.Lesley Logan 7:07  So much risk on her end. So you guys, I know I say like, I don't know what the next thing will be. I really don't. And I don't know that we can hit the same countries every year. In fact, that's probably not true. Because we have to go to other countries. And I don't overwork myself anymore. So we do like four outings a year. There's a lot of countries. I don't know what I can say yes to these ones again. So definitely make them a priority. October. So another way you can make a priority is our retreat in Cambodia...(Brad: Cambodia) that's how they say it. So lesleylogan.co/retreat. You guys, this is amazing. We are selling out this retreat, and it's just going to be a frickin blast. Brad Crowell 7:23  Yeah, I've been chatting with the people who are like, trying to figure out their plane tickets and what is their whole trip gonna be, we've two women who are going to join us who are actually making it a full blown world tour where...(Lesley: Oh my God) Japan, and then Singapore...(Lesley: I wanna go with them), and then I think Turkey, and then they're going to (...) I mean, it is like, so amazing. They're just gonna keep on going and what an epic trip that's gonna be, you can absolutely make Cambodia a stop on your trip and come join us for our retreat when you're doing your world tour. So I love that.Lesley Logan 8:16  Yeah. And then November we got Miami. Yeah, give you more information on that later. All right. We're gonna get to James in just a second. But first, do we have an audience question?Brad Crowell 8:26  We sure do. Let's see this week, Kim Jung wrote in, she asked apart from teaching OPC classes, what does the rest of your exercise routine look like? Do you add it on after you teach? I am a teacher and I struggle with how much I should exercise in a day and how to fit in all the rest. Lesley Logan 8:44  Yeah, so you need rest day. So Kim, thank you so much for asking this because I love questions like this. I hope this helps you. First of all, I do not demonstrate when I teach my regular clients, like my in real time stuff. I really try not to demonstrate, just because I want to save my body and you know, some days or if I'm sick, and I want to have like my clients are reliant on me. So those sessions like those that time is not any exercise at all. Filming though, I actually try really hard to not use filming as my own personal workout, because it's not, I as much as what's great about OPC is when I do teach it I can share when I'm feeling in my body as it's happening, but I cannot be as present in my body because I'm actually being present in the OPC minds like I'm actually seeing the class from their perspective. So it's not a it's not a workout for me. So I have a week each month that I film and so while those are workouts they're so not my personal workouts and I don't tend to work out on top of those, but I just I just don't go oh, I worked out myself out today. I like give myself other ways to connect with myself.Brad Crowell 9:53  What do those things include?Lesley Logan 9:53  Oh, I have my red light with my zone of space red light that I love that I meditate with that. And I also have this new little gadget that I'll tell you more about that we're working on getting it as a discount link for you, that is really helping me do that I have a pemf mat that I give myself some recovery time.Can you say that again?...(Leslye: Pimf mat) that's P E M FYeah, for higher dose, we actually do have an affiliate link for that.Brad Crowell 10:20  Yeah, we'll put that in the show notes.Lesley Logan 10:22  So on my filming weeks, I do those kinds of things for myself, just because you do need to have time for you to pour into your own self. And so that's how I do that. Now...Brad Crowell 10:31  But you also exercise outside of...Lesley Logan 10:32  Correct, thank you. So that's, so just one week of each month is for filming, the rest of the weeks are my own personal thing. So here's what I do. I do 15 minutes to an hour of Pilates five to six days a week, I do weight training three to four days a week. And that weight training includes. It's kind of like CrossFit light, a couple days a week, a hit training kind of style. And then I do barbell with you, you and I actually do these together. So yeah, so here's the deal, though, ladies, I use an app that allows me to know what kind of intensity my workout should be on a given day based on my cycle. And it's really important because I don't, I'm not going to skip my weight training class on a day that says I shouldn't be going in very intensely. But what I just do is I go slower, I like or I don't use as heavy of weights like I, I use the app to let me know. So I don't overwork myself out because you can build up too much cortisol if you're over doing all these things. And we as women have to stop treating our fitness based on like, what men's workouts are they have a 24 hour cycle, we have a 28 to 31 day cycle. So using a tool that lets me know, based on my hormones, how much I should work out, and you know, and then as far as rest days, go, guys, you can do Pilates on your rest day, it's a low impact exercise, you can do even yoga on your best day. You can do intentional walking on your rest day, it's rest days don't have to mean like I lay on the couch and do nothing. You should still move intentionally every day. So that's kind of what my and I try to work out in the morning mostly, but I'll be really honest. It's not always possible. Some my strength train is at night. So it's not my favorite. But I like my trainer and I like her husband, and my dad and my friends they are so that's my workout routine. So I would say three to four days of strength. Five to six days of Pilates. I walk twice a day every day.Brad Crowell 12:21  Yeah...(Lesly: Did I miss anything?) I don't believe, sometimes we sprinkle in yoga. We do occasionally. Not nearly like it used to be, but it's still happenin.Lesley Logan 12:32  I miss it.Brad Crowell 12:32  I really miss it too.Lesley Logan 12:33  I have an app I'm going to try out. I really love our teacher but 8am is not ideal.Brad Crowell 12:37  It's tough. It's tough for me.Lesley Logan 12:40  Yeah. So hey, thank you for the question. You guys send your questions and we love answering them. They're so fun. I'm sure if somebody wants an update on cactus daddy. So like, you know, send them into the Be It Pod. Brad Crowell 12:51  Yeah, because right now everything is blooming.Lesley Logan 12:54  Oh my gosh, it's crazy. Insane.Brad Crowell 12:58  Awesome. Okay, now let's talk about James Patrick, a passionate photographer who has not only mastered his craft, but also deeply believes in the power of specialization and embracing imperfection. Beyond his photography, Patrick is widely recognized for his entrepreneurship and unyielding dedication to helping others succeed in the creative field. And he's been doing that by hosting crazy events. And he's got a podcast and he's got all his stuff.Lesley Logan 13:41  So cool. Very creative. I feel like we like we don't I'm not we're not photographers. I feel like in some ways, we both, we all do the same amount of work. So like we all have, like some plates spinning. He's just so cool. Brad Crowell 13:55  It was really fascinating to listen to him. Lesley Logan 13:57  Yeah, I met him through Kareem.Brad Crowell 13:59  Yeah, yeah. Well, because of the because of the fit (...) right? Lesley Logan 14:03  If you are listening to this in real time, I think you could probably still sign up for that. So you should do it. Okay, so what I love, there's a few things I love that he said, I mean, it was just a phenomenal interview, like it could just I could have kept going, we'll probably have to have him back. But I really love it. We talked about goals, and like how we should actually look at our goals, and what is a success versus what's not. And so he talked a lot about like goal is progress. So this way, as I said it the more you break things into manageable pieces, the more confident you are that you can get things done. So oftentimes, we see this all the time with our agency members. The longer they're in agency, the less they do this, which is so cool. Like typically, when someone's an agency the first couple months are like here's my goal for the month and I was like literally more things in there that are days and I'm like, You are not gonna get the website done this in a month, like, you can, it's possible if you have a lot of team but like, just you know, so breaking things down into manageable pieces, and it's made me think of Jillian Flodstrom, from who we had on, and she like breaks down her goals into tasks, it could be in two minute, so that she can actually get them done. Because whenever you have two minutes, you can just like look at a task that she has. So, so breaking them down.Brad Crowell 15:18  And that takes so much planning though. And I think that's one thing that I feel like, we don't talk about is the, there's like a prep time where you're simply thinking, you have to spend time thinking and, and what but but it's when you spend the time to think and prep and plan, then the execution becomes just the do it, bang, bang it out.Lesley Logan 15:44  Yes. And also, like, what you have to be careful is that planning is not perfecting, so you're not, you're not trying to overdo it, like there's a balance there. And then some things you won't know until you get into doing the thing. But also, this is another important part of goals, you have to set goals that you have control over. So if you say I'm gonna have my website done this month, but you're not the one building your website, like, you actually don't have control, like your, like someone else does. Or if you're like, I'm gonna get three new clients, well, you actually don't have control of when three people decide to give you their money, you have control over the steps that you could take to get clients to even know about you. And so if your goal is to do Pilates every day, that is something you have control over if you also have control over your schedule, or if you have control over like the way you schedule your time. And so it's just really, I really loved the way he talked about like, creating achievable and realistic goals. But and not setting too many or getting too ambitious, but like just like, Okay, I want to do this thing, and then breaking down a manageable task, and then making sure that the goals you have for yourself, you have control over. And so it doesn't mean like you don't make a goal because you don't have control, it was like what part of that goal do you have control over? He wanted to be on covers. He actually cannot decide if he's chosen on a cover, but he can make sure he's pitching himself.Brad Crowell 17:07  Right. Yeah. And I think that's the, like, there was a couple of things where he was talking about this. He said he started making his goals sheet, something he revisits more frequently, because he found himself in this like, sit down on January one, write out a year, set the goals and then revisited January one 365 days later and be like, Oh, I forgot to write that down. Did I do this, that this even happened? As opposed to that, he now has like a living document. He calls it like a living will. But it's like he revisited you know, like, every month or even every couple of weeks. And he's just reassessing all the time. And I thought that was really cool. And then, you know, like you said, making it like breaking them down when he was like, I want to host an event. And then he's like, Oh, I was gonna host I was gonna do it next month. I haven't even started. I guess I'll just bail on that. You know, that's a bummer. You know, and so, you know, looking at, that's why spending the time to break things down, allows you to work your way to that goal. So totally, this was really great. And then...(Lesley: also he created like a journal.) Yeah, I was just gonna say he actually...(Lesley: I'm on it.) (...) turn it into a hard a hard copy. So he has a free PDF that you can download to check, check it out. And then he also turned it into an actual book that you can get on Amazon. SoLesley Logan 18:32  One thing I know about our listeners is that they love a hardcopy. I want to see your pictures of you using this thing. I just think that I like how curious and observant he is in his own practice so that he can like share this with others. I think it's helpful to know because I think we could hear some good 700 covers, oh my gosh, everything he touches turns to gold. It's like actually, like, everything he touches is because he did the work. What did you love?Brad Crowell 19:00  So the thing that I was really digging this, because this was super applicable to me. He said, we often are afraid to lean into our differentiators. Right? And because he like think about photography, you know, if you aren't familiar with the field of photography, you just think, oh, they take pictures. But he said, Well, what about what if you take action shots? And once you do, you know scenery? Or what if you do food, you know, or product photography, each one of these things are so different in that realm. And he said people have fear that they're actually going to be somehow turning away business. If they're not, you know, if they they want to go wide, instead of going narrow and deep. And he said the reason is because they have this fear that they're gonna be missing out on opportunities. But he had this perfectly logical argument of think of it from the clients perspective, oh, we need, we've got an event coming up. And we need to hire a photographer. So are we going to hire the guy who says hire me, I'm a photographer, or the guy who says, I am the best event photographer that you've ever met. I only shoot events. I'm amazing at it. I've been doing it forever. I've got 800 of them under my belt, which is the same price. Which one do you think they're gonna hire? Lesley Logan 20:24  Even if the other one's more expensive, I'm still gonna hire the one that I'm most worried about, right?Brad Crowell 20:29  Because they're only gonna do the event one time, it's like, you can't mess it up. You know? So there's, there's risk there on their part. So they'd be willing to pay for the expert. Right? So he's, he's his argument is, you should absolutely be leaning into your differentiators, because it's going to attract the clients that you want to be working with. And that's going to allow you to set yourself apart from your competition. Right? And so just an interesting way to flip that on, on on your head. Right? And I, you know, that that for me was personally, that was really helpful when I did my strengths test, which you all have heard me talk about 50 times, if you've heard me say it once. But once I understood my actual strengths, from the strengths finders quiz, that I was able to lean into those things and able to confidently say, oh, I can absolutely be the ops person for you. Because ABCD I am this, you know, and I'm great at this thing. And it really allowed me to move forward in my, my career, you know, and so this is something that like, I feel we, when we're coaching our clients, we often, people have the hardest time dialing in, their ICA their their ideal client avatar, right, they don't know how to, you know, connect with the people that they want to work with, and then modify their marketing language to connect with that that person, but this argument is exactly why you need to do it. Right? You cannot be let's, let's just use the one we hear all the time. Whenever we host agency, many, inevitably, somebody says, Oh, I have clients who are 17 and 83. You know, so I guess I'm just gonna be my, my avatar is females, right? And it's like, wait a minute.Lesley Logan 22:15  You know, we actually I just answered this question for somebody because they were like, I just feel like, maybe I'm niche down too much. You know, like, what about these other people I could help. And I said, Well, something that I talked about with the podcast demographics, as I say, our demographics are women, mostly, and a few good men between the ages between the mid 30s to early 50s. And those who think they are. That's cool. And the reason I say that is because we do have a ton of women shout out to(...) and unmarried and all those who are over 55, you know, plus about like, they act like (...) they totally act like they're in that age range. So that's I say, but also when you when you are very clear, and very specific there are people who aspire to be the person who you're talking to. Yeah, they still come because they can picture. I don't like country music, but I hear a country music song. And I can picture what they're singing. And it makes me think of this thing that I wanted or did or had. And so it's just like, be specific, it attracts people, and it makes you more tractable.Brad Crowell 23:23  And James even had an example. And he said, You know, I am a I shoot magazine covers, you know, and however, and he said, I'm not a pro photographer, however, I learned that a product photography gig, because I had a relationship and somebody knows me, and trust me, you know, so I still am getting those clients, even though that's not the person I'm really intentionally trying to land. So you know, saying the same thing, you will inevitably get clients that aren't your, quote unquote, perfect market, you know? And that's how that's how it works.Lesley Logan 23:55  Also, you can say yes to them. I think this is what's true. Is that and you think, Oh, if I only talked to these people, then I can only help these people. No, you can. I never ever ever advertised to athletes, ever. I had mostly athletes. Why did I have them? Because a one on one relationship that got me one that got me the rest. And so I just kept getting them doesn't mean that I of course, I wanted to teach them but that wasn't why I got into teaching. And I had a lot of fun teaching them. So I think we, we sell ourselves short. I also think we're in fear that people will, what if the people that I want, I'm talking to say no to me? rejection sucks, but also get used to it, you'll be rejected more times than you won't in this whole life. It's a numbers game.Brad Crowell 24:39  It's a game. I had a quote I wanted to read to just wrap this up. That was he just had a couple of amazing one liners in there. He, James, specifically said, not specializing on something is almost a guaranteed way to lose out on opportunities that you are hardwired to be getting.Lesley Logan 25:01  Oh my gosh, we have to like shout this out to our agency members. Also, this whole conversation if you're enjoying it, I was on James's podcast and we go deeper into this kind of thing...(Brad: Oh, cool. Yeah. Awesome. How about that?) I know. We'll get the link. We'll put it down there. Brad Crowell 25:18  We'll find out link for you. All right. So finally, let's talk about those Be It action items. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with James Patrick? He said he kind of rolled it all into one, but basically, not to rely on reactive approaches. And he specifically made an example of reacting to emotions or reacting to the market or business development or launch strategies reacting. Instead, he suggested being proactive.Lesley Logan 26:20  Yeah. Yeah, I think I mean,Brad Crowell 26:22  Like, take charge, be in charge of the situation. Proactivity, he says is the key to success. Now. It's kind of what we're talking about already, in this entire episode, think about, if you are able to plan ahead, to spend time thinking through the project, before you begin executing the project, then you're going to, that's going to set you up to be proactive. Yeah, instead of being reactive. Now, you still may have to be reactive to things life's life's right. We like to say, shit happens. But imagine if you were able to think through things prior to getting it done, and then executing that, you know, it will help you achieve your goals.Lesley Logan 27:01  I mean, okay. For those of you who were part of our journey back in March of this year, we had a very reactive situation, right? Like, our servers were crashed. And our OPC website, when we brought it back to life was at 1999 speeds of the internet. And so we actually had to be reactive and that we had to fix the site right away. However, the team, you and the team still sat down, planned it all out, and then made the changes happen in it as fast as humanly possible with a website with like, what over 1000 pages?Brad Crowell 27:38  So we're between 750 and 1000? Yeah, it's a lot.Lesley Logan 27:41  So it's a lot so. So even when you have to be reactive, taking a moment in time, unless someone's falling off a cliff, then please reach out and grab them. But if like, because none of us are actually like in the emergency room having to make a split second decision, take a beat in the reaction and like really explore like, in what you're reacting to, how is this actually an alignment with your goals? Sometimes we react to things because of FOMO. Because we see someone else doing something we should be doing it. Even if you're inspired. Well, even if you're inspired by somebody else's thing, like let's say you, your friend is doing Pilates, and you're like, I want to do Pilates, and you react to that, that's fine. But then also go to your calendar and break down when you're going to do those things and take a moment and don't just like, you know, fly by the seat of your pants. I know some people like to do that. And I'm sure it's working out well for you.Brad Crowell 28:34  That's not true. I mean, you know, things can still go, you know, and we are big fans of taking messy action to0, but the purpose of taking messy action is so that you're not stagnant. Right? You're not, It's not paralysis, right? there does come a point where you have to move. But if you can give yourself the time to think through things first, that and then when you get in the mix and things aren't going quite as smoothly. Take that messy action. The combination of those two things that's going to be a win,Lesley Logan 29:06  Messy action is not reaction...(Brad: That's true.) That's true. That's a new thing. We just came up with it. Is my turn. Yeah, okay. So Okay, put something out in the market put it out there. It's better to put an imperfect idea than wait for a perfect one. Putting an idea out in the market allows us to receive feedback. You guys, this is so great, what he said, feedback is valuable for refining, improving ideas, is important to overcome the fear of imperfection, take action and be willing to make adjustments and then embrace (...) projects is what he also said so here's the deal. This kind of goes back to what we were saying but like you gotta like get things out there. If we tried to perfect something like let's just go back to the website. If we tried it, we we did the frickin best we could. We made sure it was like as as as good as it could be to our eyes in a dev situation. And then you put it out there. And inevitably there is going to be shit that has to be dealt with. You won't know about that until you put it out in the market. Yeah, and you need feedback. You need people to say, oh, on my Android, it doesn't do this thing on this it is this thing. It is better to put that stuff out there quicker. So you get that feedback faster. So that you can, you can actually make those changes, if we waited and noodled around until we thought okay, we've done every I and every T is crossed. Everything is perfect. You guys put it out there and in my bio it says thing instead of think, it's okay. It's okay. No one's...(Brad: does it really?) Yes. I might, have we been putting that bio out everywhere at the wrong? because it's like a copy and paste, right? Anyways, that's fine. Yeah, so same with our app, we put it out, right, and it's not perfect and I was just scrolling like oh, this is a blank page. It is way better to get feedback because most of the feedback is frickin positive. Yeah, most of it is positive. So this I had it on Forever Fridays podcast again and she did a like a what do you call those things? A speed ball a fireball.Brad Crowell 31:12  Speed ball Lesley Logan 31:16  What do you call those like quick questions? Like rapid fire!Brad Crowell 31:19  Rapid Fire Lesley Logan 31:20  There we go!So she said, done versus perfect. And I said, like literally Oh argue with you to the day I die, but Done is better than Perfect. And except for like, please don't just marry any random person. Like that might be the I'm not saying wait for the perfect person. But like, don't just marry someone. So that way, the only time that I need like a little estrus, butBrad Crowell 31:57  Let's just put it in the lane of projectsLesley Logan 32:00  Done is better than perfect, and oh my goshBrad Crowell 32:05  Although, you know, I have heard people refer to their spouses as a project. So...Lesley Logan 32:09  Those people like a project. I'm not, I'm like, if you call your husband that and you're still married to them, then you love a project. Yeah, right. Um, all right, I'm Lesley Logan.Brad Crowell 32:23  And I'm Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 32:24  You know we fucking love you. Yeah, you're amazing...(Brad: this is so fun) this podcast, can you believe it? What is this episode 200 and something?...(Brad: Yeah. 209.) 209. And that was my old area code 209. And we have FYF on Fridays, which you guys are loving and we want to share your wins. So you have to send them to us. Brad Crowell 32:42  Yeah, make sure you're connecting with us, letting us know. Lesley Logan 32:44  But also, we are in the top 2% of podcasts because of you...(Brad: what?) I know. So please keep sharing the pod. My goal, that I have no control over. Right. So it is. So all I can do. All I can do is add to the FYFs, I'm adding to the FYFs, I'm getting more and more amazing guests. And also I've improved big time. So I'm controlling what I can control. But my, all the things I'm doing with this podcast are an effort to get to that top 1% Why? Because that means we're helping more people be it until they see it and when you take messy action, new ditch perfection, you are winning in life and more people get to enjoy the fruits of how awesome you are. So thank you for being a listener of this podcast. Thank you for sharing it. Make sure you tell us how you're being it till you see it and have an amazing day.Brad Crowell 33:32  Bye for now.Lesley Logan 33:32  That's all I got for this episode of the Be Until You See a Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. 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Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:All the details for OPC insider news How to connect workshops and pilates exercises togetherThe first step in discovering your purpose How you create space to be curious and purposeful The value of curiosityEpisode References/Links:Be in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipWaitlist for the flashcards deck  If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox.Be It Till You See It Podcast SurveyUse this link to get your Toe Sox!ResourcesWatch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable PilatesSocial MediaInstagramFacebookLinkedInTranscript:Lesley Logan 0:00  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guests will bring Bold, Executable, Intrinsic and Targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co host in life Brad and I are going to dig into the purposeful convo I had with Adrian Starks in our last episode. If you haven't like yet listened to that interview. Feel free to pause this now. Go back. Listen to that one. I swear you're gonna fucking love his voice. I promise you... (Brad: Yeah) you know what? Actually, I said, narrator I want him to do those nighttime stories. He should do nighttime stories. I would fall asleep to him like reading the phone book. Absolutely wonderful, Adrian, that's a new job for you. So listen to his voice and come back and join us and let me know what else he should narrate. Because I just, I'm just like, you just keep telling your story. It's great. It's a great voice.(brad: I love it) Alright, so before we talk about Adrian, we just had the very first one day workshop situation for people on the on one on one exercise... (Brad: on OPC) on OPC. And it was so fun because we did the workout, which is kind of like what we do on OPC... (Brad: It was roll up on the mat) roll up on the mat. That was the theme. So the workout was dedicated to that exercise.Brad Crowell 2:15  Yeah, the replay just expired last night.Lesley Logan 2:17  Yeah. So when I create OPC classes, well actually when any teacher creates an OPC class actually think about an exercise or a skill set you need in Pilates, and we thread that through the entire workout. And so that's what we're known for. And so the roll up can be a very annoying, frustrating exercise. And what we did was I created a workout that would actually help you understand the roll up better in your body by the end of the workout. Then we did a little digging in deep with our OPC teachers and they share like what they struggle with and the roll up and how they got around it because everyone has a different body. Everyone has different strengths and weaknesses. And then we did the class again. Yeah, because of OPC you actually repeat the same class.Brad Crowell 2:57  I thought it was cool. I thought it was cool that you did it a second time because now you had the first experience then you discuss things and then you got a second shot at that. Lesley Logan 3:06  Yeah, yeah! And so anyways, people had a lot of fun with it. And so we will we were hoping to do another one later this year on a different exercise. You want to go to opc.me/workshops to get on the what is it a waitlistBrad Crowell 3:21  Waitlist for future workshops. Yeah, opc.me/workshopsLesley Logan 3:25  Somebody might be thinking oh, why get on the waitlist, they'll just tell me about it later. No, here's why algorithms you get busy life changes and also anyone on the waitlist always either gets a special gift or a special discount or something fun fucking happens to people on a waitlist just so you know people on the retreat waitlist got a discount low. So you just want to be on waitlist because we like to give gifts.Brad Crowell 3:45  Yeah, so and also, we're changing the way that our companies work. We are no longer going to be shouting from the rooftops on social, buy my stuff, buy my stuff... (Lelsley: Yeah) So what will the people who are on our waitlist will find out about the really cool things that we're offering now. So just be advised. Yeah.Lesley Logan 4:06  And if you're on social you have less of a chance of hearing about it. So that's all... (Brad: Yeah) be be one of the insiders. Okay. And OPC members last week, we told you there's something exciting coming up, and there's still something exciting coming up and we're not telling you yet. (brad: This is the longest tease) I have no idea. I have no idea when Brad's gonna let me tell you but I've been spilling the beans to a few people.Brad Crowell 4:28  Yeah, we were well FYI there's something cool for OPC for the OPC communityLesley Logan 4:36  If you don't know what it is, it means you were not at the live workout for March and it also means you have not watched the end of the live workout for March. So now I know... (Brad: That's true) And finally finally finally, at the time of this recording, we have a few spots left in round three of my mentorship for elevate. I'm not gonna go into too much detail here because you can, you heard about last week. You can also hear about it in other ways by going to Lesleylogan.co/elevate, Lesleylogan.co/elevate, because that's what we're about to do with your practice your teaching and your connection to the method. I call them my elevators... (Brad: I love it) And because Brad's now into fourth bullets... (Brad: It's happening) If you're wanting the chairs deck, and you didn't get it during the presale, now is the time to get it. Because... (Brad: now is the time) otherwise, you're not going to be part of the first rollout. And that means you have to wait. And if we've sold out, you have to wait even longer.Brad Crowell 5:32  Yeah, so I mean, the reality is, we only placed enough of an order for the people who have placed the order with a little bit of a buffer and the and then it might sell out there. So we would love to include your order. When we're printing everything in round one.Lesley Logan 5:50  Yeah, so go to OPC. So that's onlinepilatesclasses.com. If you're like What the hell is an OPC? Hi, welcome to the podcast. I'm Lesley Logan... (Brad: and I'm Brad Crowell) and OPC is... (Brad: thanks a lot for joining us today) Adrian sorry, that's all you get, no, onlinepilatesclasses.com is our baby. So go check it out. Okay, before we get into Adrian Stark's amazing voice and all this amazing content, what do we, do we have an audience question to get to?Brad Crowell 6:15  We do. And so basically, this is from an OPC member, we have a private Facebook group for the OPC community. And she said, I love the way you theme your workouts and connect exercises together. I really want to understand more about how you do that how you conceptualize that.Lesley Logan 6:35  Yeah, so actually, like we kind of just talked about it with the workshop... (Brad: Yeah, yeah) But also like, that doesn't really help you figure out how to do it... (Brad: That's true) So one of the things that I would love to tell you is the way I do that in less than a 15 minute recap, and I cannot. So the truth is, is that well, how I theme workouts together is because of how I was trained to see the method. And I was trained to see this method. Luckily, I had a lot of amazing teachers in my journey to hear where you're listening to me now. But one of those was Jay Grimes, Sani Shimoda, who...Brad Crowell 7:08  We're still talking Pilates, the Pilates method.Lesley Logan 7:11  Still talking about the pilates method. Thank you, Brad, for, you know, bringing in Tracy from Wisconsin. So um, so my teachers Jake Grimes, Sandy Shimoda, Karen Fishman, they really helped me, like take everything I knew and like, and take it from being like pieces of information, like, like think things like a solar system, like nine planets, and actually see how they're all connected by the stars. Right. So, so effectively, I hope that analogy makes sense. So at any rate, they really helped me put that together. And then since that, since I was able to understand that, I put that into my own practice my own teaching. And that's how OPC was created. Because it was like, how do I make first of all, the classical Pilates method unique every single week? It is I do the same that order? Well, the same order, but it's an order on the mat and reformer, we just omit exercises that don't fit the theme or the time. But how do I do that? And so I started really honing that skill set in and really making it fun and, and what you experience as an OPC member, is it really connected so you can take an exercise that you may not be able to do or one that you struggle with or hate, and really understand it. So how do you do that yourself, I have to be completely honest and tell you you need to be my mentorship because it's something that's going to take time. And I need to have, I need to AC where you're at in your understanding of the method, and in your connection to the practice in your body and how you currently teach. And then help you get like, you could be anywhere on the journey and I need to make sure that we're on the same page. And then because you might even be doing half of it already, when that'd be amazing. If I go actually you're halfway there. Here's some things you could do. Or Hi, that was 1000 words. (...) takes one exercise. So let's go over here. So I really love my elevate mentorship for exactly this. It helps you see the method as like one exercise you do hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of different ways. And allows you to teach everybody in front of you based on connecting them together and also your own body. So if you want to know how I do this, basically the TLDR is sign up for elevate.Brad Crowell 9:18  Yeah, join elevate. .. (Lesley: Yeah) okay. Well, thanks for asking that question. Lesley Logan 9:23  Yeah, you can ask any question you want is my Pilates guys, so last couple of Pilates related. It can actually be life business work or like vacation, whatever it is need to send it into us somewhere on the interwebs not LinkedIn. I'm not over there. But you know, someplace that I can actually find it. And I'll put it on here.Brad Crowell 9:39  Stick around. Right to this we're gonna talk about how Adrian Starks shares the Greatest Journey is the journey inwardLesley Logan 9:45  Right after these messages we'll be right back.Brad Crowell 11:21  Okay, now let's talk about Adrienne Starks. Adrian Starks is a man who decided to begin living on this planet for three reasons to learn, to grow, and then to take action. He is fully living his purpose driven life and inspires others to do the same as a speaker, narrator, entrepreneur and writer. Lesley Logan 12:09  Yeah. So I actually want to jump in first, because I really enjoyed his first step in discovering your purpose, because I just, you know, we've always had, we're like, what's my purpose? Why am I here on this planet, like walking around? Like they may not know. And he said that he the history said, I'm gonna quote him, the greatest journey is a journey inward. And he said, you also have to acknowledge you don't know everything, but then start asking why. And we talked about like, the seven why's like why this? Why this? Why this, like, Why do I want to be a writer? Because that's why do I want to do that? Because that's why do i Why, why, why. And like, we talked about...Brad Crowell 12:44  If you're, if you're trying to discover your purpose, right? Like, why are you here doing what is it that you're supposed to be doing? Why are you here on this planet? Right? And when he started asking himself that he realized he could help other people discover their own purpose, right? And so he his pod is called your purpose, your purpose for life. Right? And so anyway, in order for you to feel fulfilled and excited about, you know, showing up for life, it really will change your excitement, enthusiasm about it, if you find purpose in the thing that you're doing, right? So, you know, it's so interesting to me, because when I was younger, I was part of a coaching group. And the one of the guys said to me, I don't care, I don't care what it is, I have to do, if I have to carry shit from one corner of the room to the other corner and put it down, but after doing it for so many times, it's going to allow me to live, you know, take care of my family the way I want to, I'm willing to do that thing. And I really adopted that. And I was like, Oh, it doesn't matter if I fucking hate showing up for my job. I'm doing this because this is going to allow me to do the thing that I really would rather be doing, which is whatever, touring in music and doing all the band thing. And after doing that approach for decades, I decided I don't like that approach anymore. Because...Lesley Logan 14:12  Thank God, I was like where's this going.Brad Crowell 14:14  I really don't like it because because you know what, I ended up working at a shitty job, working with shitty people. And I told myself, I'm just gonna stick it out because by doing this shitty job, I'm gonna be setting myself up to go do something really amazing. And my thought is, listen, there are times in your life when you have to do stuff you don't want to do? sure, I get that, but what if the thing you have to do your job you actually love? What if you find purpose in that thing? How amazing would that be? Can it be possible for them to be overlaying that you're living the life that you like you're doing something that you love, and you're getting paid for it in a way that will empower you to go do the other things that you love to do, then you can have so much more fun in life.Lesley Logan 14:57  Yeah. I'm so glad that that turned around. I was like...Brad Crowell 15:03  You should have seen her face if you're on YouTube. She's looking at me and her heads tilted to the side like the puppy dogs like: what are you doing?Lesley Logan 15:12  Not to say that if you are shoveling shit that your job is without purpose because the person who picks up our dog poop, I am sure feels very purposeful, and what they chose to do for themselves. And I'm very grateful.Brad Crowell 15:23  So that was my point is like every it's it wasn't fulfilling me the things that I was doing. They weren't doing they weren't lighting my fire. They weren't something that I'm excited abou, passionate about, like amazing at... (Lesley: Yeah) those kinds of things. I was just doing them because I had a job opportunity... (Lesley: Yeah) that could get me paid... (Lesley: Yeah) that's not enough.Lesley Logan 15:41  Yeah. So you know, like, I love that. I'm really glad that you didn't adopt that. It's probably when we met. You probably stopped.Brad Crowell 15:50  Yeah, well, it was. It was. I mean, I don't know. I think it was like, it was it was a combination of the of me leaving the music industry. Because I was betting on that to be the thing that got me out of the shit.  Lesley Logan 16:05  Yeah. And then, oh, I remember this, and you left the music thing. And you're like, well, now I'm here... (Brad: Yeah, now I'm just fucking here) not playing music, because like, this isn't (...). So Oh, yeah. No, it was definitely them. Brad Crowell 16:16  Yeah, it was exactly when we met too. So there's that that was 100% a part of it. But, but really, like, I thought, you know, I'm gonna sell a million records, and I'm just gonna go tour the world. And then all of a sudden, when my band stopped, I was like, Oh now what?Lesley Logan 16:30  Yeah. Like, so I worked retail. I really thought I was gonna work in retail forever. Because I really love the company I worked for at the time we had we sold the most amazing stuff. And it's not because I love to sell the vibe purpose on this planet was help people sell. What I loved was helping people find the thing that made them leave the store the smile on their face, or like they had the gift for someone like I loved helping people, like people, you know, people when you're shopping, imagine, think about last minute shopping, oftentimes you're shopping for like, it's like, what do they call it, like retail therapy. And like they come in, and then I help them find this thing that would like light them up, or make them feel like their selves or like jewelry is like an expression of them. And so I found present now I work with a ton of people who are like this is how I pay my bills, and I can tell you right now, it doesn't matter how amazing that salesperson was, they were never the number one salesperson. They're never the number one because they were just piling up the shit from one corner to the other. So clearly, like whatever you're doing, try to figure out how it aligns with the purpose that you have on this life, or let's find a way to help you bridge the gap... (Brad: Yeah) What did you love?Brad Crowell 17:32  I love it. Alright, so one thing he started talking about was how, you know, now that you're asking why, you know, why am I here? What do I love? Why am I why do I like doing this? Why do I like to know, you know, and kind of going towards your purpose. He said, how you create, you need to create space and be purposeful. And the creating of the space allows you to be curious, okay, and that curiosity really opened up the opportunity to make mistakes in, you know, and to grow and learn and be better at what it is that we're doing. And, again, dial in, hone in, you know, being more purposeful in our life. And, and he actually gave a challenge, he said, Be curious enough to make a mistake, because a lot of people are unwilling to take any risk, unwilling to make any mistakes. But he was giving this really great analogy about Babe Ruth, and it wasn't Mickey Mantle, he referenced somebody... (Lesley: no, somebody else) can't remember now, but he said they actually have more strikeouts than they did homeruns even though they were, you know, the number they were top of the top of the homerun stats... (Lesley: yes). But they failed so many times. Right. And, and then I thought you asked a really great question of like, well, how do you, you know, how do you set yourself up to be curious? And he said, Oh, by being alone. And it was like, well, that's interesting, very interesting. So he figured out how to leave his mind the mental space to be curious, by setting aside time for himself... (Lesley: Yeah) You know.Lesley Logan 19:20  This is, this is, that right there is the problem most people have, they do not create space for new stuff. So they could they it doesn't even matter if you know what your purpose is. If you have not created the time. I don't care if it's 15 minutes. I don't care if it's 2% of your day. Brad Crowell 19:38  Yeah. Dai Manuel.Lesley Logan 19:41  If you don't do that, it doesn't mean it doesn't none of the stuff that we're telling you matters. None of it does. And too often I see people go must be nice. I wish I could do this when I have more time. I'm telling you right now, you will never stop being the busyness that you are until you create the time for your purpose. And until you start actually like owning that and protecting that and is going to require being alone and I know my extroverts are like: don't wanna be alone. But you Brad also when you take time to go for a walk by yourself, you come up with so many ideas. But if you're like on phone calls all day, on your socials all the time, hang up people all the time.Brad Crowell 20:20  Listening to podcasts all day long.Lesley Logan 20:23  Let your let your your let things be silent, you know. So anyways, I thought that was one of the most amazing answers loved It's so fucking much.Brad Crowell 20:31  Well, he talks about he's shared a lot of his story about like school, middle school, high school and being alone and working in the library and stuff. And it actually made me think about that time. And also about my time in college, when I was intentionally writing music all the time. And I had in my calendar, don't call Brad. Brad is writing, right? And I have intentional time, to be creative, to be curious, to learn, to try new things, to flop at new songs, all that kind of stuff. And when I was in high school, I remember I always wanted to be part of like the group. But I remember actually, like I would, I would walk I would walk home. And it was like 30 minutes. But I would take different routes and I would explore and try new things and know the curiosity like can I walk through this neighborhood to get to where I'm trying to go. And that that alone time, you know, I didn't have a, I think I might have had a diskman in high school, but not really. So I didn't have something to distract me.Lesley Logan 21:37  You're gonna have to explain it what a diskman was just in case somebody is listening to this. Brad Crowell 21:42  If you were born in the 90s you don't know what a diskman is because you never needed to use one. A diskman is a CD player that is portable. That's all.Lesley Logan 21:51  You know, you just made me think of remember when when I left working for the fitness company. And I no longer had to commute from West Hollywood to the west side, which is by the way... (Brad: right) three miles, y'all Brad Crowell 22:02  But it was like 30 to 45 minutesLesley Logan 22:04  30 45 minutes, and in those 30 to 45 minutes, you could rarely get me on the phone. I literally just enjoyed I had a jeep with the top off. And even in the winter, I just blast the heat. And I drove through the streets of Beverly Hills, like like I mean it was beautiful picture as everything you see from a clueless when she's walking and clueless like literally that. And then I went from just like driving from our house to the studio, which is one mile and I could take the side streets. So I was there in four minutes, unless I hit this one stoplight, and then it was seven, but still, like no time at all. And I remember and I come home and you would have been working from home all day and you're like ready to talk. And I'm like, Ah, I haven't been alone. And like, so I ended up we got rid of the Jeep. So I could walk home. I could walk home. And it was a 15 to 20 minute walk depend on how fast I went. And it was the perfect time for my brain for me to be alone to think about thing. And that's where I actually going back to those seven layers of why the first time I could get all the way to number seven was on a walk. Because I could actually like go and I could get past number seven because I wasn't around. It wasn't in my surroundings of our house or my work. I was like walking with the squirrels and all this stuff. So anyways, highly recommend get some time by yourself.Brad Crowell 23:22  Yeah, I think that's great. And for you especially, it's really a way for you to energize or re energize... (Lesley: Yeah) You know, for me, I think like I have, I actually really struggle with it because I have a hard time. Like, like, it's hard. The story that I've told myself about alone time and not doing anything is that I'm not being efficient, and I'm wasting time. And I think that we need to combat that concept of I'm wasting time because the time your brain needs space and like little distraction, to be creative. And that creativity that sparks curiosity that allows you to come up with different ideas, you know, and, uh, you know, time after time, I've realized I fill every second of my day with, you know, if I'm literally like doing the dishes, I'm also listening to a podcast or maybe I've got a show on or something. Or if I'm going for a walk, I'm often again listening to a book or listening to a pod. And I don't leave myself time just to let my mind percolate. You know... (Lesley: yeah) and it's not wasting time. It's important. Lesley Logan 24:30  No, it's important and 2% of your day is enough time, which is 30 minutes.Brad Crowell 24:36  Yes 2%All right, so finally let's talk about those Be It action items what bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Adrian Starks.Lesley Logan 24:58  I'm going first again. It is my show. All right, here we go. Get curious, question people, question yourself and I don't, I think when people think question people, question why someone's, it's not to be antagonistic, it's just like, just because you have a thought doesn't make it a fact. So ask yourself like, oh, like why? Why is that? What? Like question you don't have to like question authority, or you should, but you don't have to, like, be antagonistic. It's just like, if you've always done things in one way, ask yourself, if that's still serving you, ask yourself that you'd be willing to try something different, you know, like, really dive in deep on some of the habits you have, because if they're not serving you, with time they get rid of them. And we got to get curious about that. First to understand you gotta like test things out in the water. I'm, I love testing out my morning routine, I really do. So you know, and the best way to test is like, get out of your comfort zone and do something different.Brad Crowell 25:56  Yeah, I do it respectfully. Part of it is something that I wanted to speak to because I was very antagonistic in my youth, about questioning authority, and not in like, I'm not like, you know, throwing rocks and started fights kind of thing, but I would challenge authority intellectually.Lesley Logan 26:21  You guys he literally did every single assignment in college and never turned it in. Let me just talk about like...Brad Crowell 26:28  I intentionally got the worst GPA you could possibly get. I failed every class... (Lesley: but he went) I went to all the classes. I wouldn't take the tests but I would do all the papers in the homework but I just wouldn't turn them in so I had a really interesting you know, it's part of my ego I think too for sure... (Lesley: Oh, you think) but but you know, the questioning people, questioning myself, you know, questioning authority that all of that really does roll into curiosity.Lesley Logan 27:05  Well, there's yeah, there's there's definitely been like, like curiosity is like being a detective versus like a judge.Brad Crowell 27:11  Yeah, we're being a dick about it. You know?Lesley Logan 27:14  Be a detective not a dick. Thats the new merch. I'm a detective not a dick.Brad Crowell 27:25  I love it man.Lesley Logan 27:28  Well anyways...Brad Crowell 27:29  We'll have to put that on like a like I don't know if that's I don't know what that goes. Lesley Logan 27:33  It's like a sticker. It's sticker related, it's a bumper sticker for someone's car but not mine. Because I don't put them on the car. But we could put it on the Yeti. Um you know how at the gym people write on the walls... (Brad: Oh yeah) Oh my god some of that makes me so "no pain no gain", "sweat is just pain leaving the body" like I'm just gonna put be a detective not a dick, x x LL, Be It Till You See It. Anyways, you guys I think Adrian episode was just full of so many things. And so to sum it all up, get curious, question people, question yourself and let us know how you enjoyed this. Let us know what parts of this were really spoke to you and what you're gonna do about it and... (Brad: Let us know if you loved Adrian's voice) and how it's gonna help you have a purposeful life. And also you can listen to Adrian's voice on, for free, on his podcast, wherever podcasts are at your purposeful life. And so he has amazing guests that he puts up all the time. He's so intentional, and... (Brad: you were on there, right?) I was on there. We had a debate. We had great sweatshirt action. We both showed up in a gray sweatshirt. It was really funny. I'm like I'm going to wear a gray sweatshirt today. And I sit down he's like I had a feeling you would wear a gray sweatshirt... (Brad: you got the memo) Okay, I don't even never wear a gray sweatshirt on it. Like normally I try to like look good. Anyway, go to this podcast you can you can start with my episode and see if you enjoy the theme of his podcast which I think you will if you enjoyed this episode. So until next time, Be It Till You See It. Share it with friends and we'll hopefully see you around soon. Brad Crowell 29:08  Bye for now.Lesley Logan 29:08  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review. And follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcasts. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the @be_it_pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others BE IT TILL YOU SEE IT. Have an awesome day!      Be It Till You See It is a production of Bloom Podcast Network.  Brad Crowell 29:08  It's written, produced, filmed and recorded by your host Lesley Logan. And me Brad Crowell. Our associate producer is Amanda Frattarelli.Lesley Logan 29:08  Kevin Perez at Disenyo handles all of our audio editing.        Brad Crowell 29:08  Our theme music is by Ali at APEX Production Music. And our branding by designer and artist, Gianranco Cioffi.       Lesley Logan 29:08  Special thanks to our designer Mesh Herico for creating all of our visuals, (which you can't see because this is a podcast) and our digital producer, Jay Pedroso for editing all the video each week, so you can.Brad Crowell 29:08  And to Angelina Herico for transcribing each episode, so you can find it on our website. 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Coming off of a great conversation with Alan Stein Jr., Brad and Lesley, recap the ways that you can become the best on your personal court. Tune in for insights into finally breaking the cycles of shame, guilt, and fear that are holding you back and ways to instead nourish your soul.  If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co . And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:Excel at teaching Pilates the way only YOU can with Agency Mini 8 Perfect is unattainable The driving force behind the pursuit of perfectionGrace through the mistakes How to break the cycle of guilt, shame, and criticism, that can lead to depressionCreate a clear vision of who you want to be How to set yourself up to become your ideal version of yourself Episode References/Links:Agency Mini 8eLevate Mentorship waitlist  If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox.Be It Till You See It Podcast SurveyUse this link to get your Toe Sox!ResourcesWatch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable PilatesSocial MediaInstagramFacebookLinkedInEpisode Transcript:Lesley Logan  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guests will bring Bold, Executable, Intrinsic and Targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co host in life, Brad and I are going to dig into the slam dunk in convo I had with Alan Stein Jr. in our last episode. I cannot believe he made me say that out loud. Someone wrote that clearly has never played basketball. (Brad: Slam dunk in.) Slam dunk in and is also from the East Coast. Anyways, if you haven't yet listen to this interview, feel free to pause us now, go back and listen to that one and then come back and join us. Just so you know, Brad, listen to it. How many times? 2 3 (Brad: 3) 3 times. (Brad: Yeah) So fucking great. Love it. Love it. Love Alan and hope that we can cross paths again. If you're listening to this Alan. Hi. Basically, we're pretty obsessed. Anyways, real quick announcements. We got a lot of them because Happy 2023! Holy moly.Brad Crowell  Yeah, I can't believe it.Lesley Logan  This is a big deal year, y'all. (Brad: It's a big deal year.) First of all, we just got back from our tour 6500 miles, it was a trip. We also are tested out a new way of doing the van. Brad and my dad like built out a bed four feet off the ground. So I feel like I'm 11 with bunk beds. But no one is below to like pushin the mattress up.Brad Crowell  You can see what we're talking about on the OPC blog. So if you go to onlinepilatesclasses.com/blog. We we have pictures up.Lesley Logan  Oh, that's so fun. Thanks for doing that so people can follow along. (Brad: Yeah) We also officially kick off around two of my eLevates which is my mentorship group and for Pilates teachers. And it's so fun. (Brad: It's called eLevate.) eLevate. (Brad: This making sure that was clear.) And it's a capital L not that that matters when you Google. Anyways, I just like it. Like I just like the way it looks. Round one was so much fun. We had so many amazing women from all over the world, literally all over the world join us that we decided to do a round two. It sold out so fast and we had so many amazing applicants that I opened up round three. So hey loves, if you're like, "Wait, you have a mentorship?" Yes, I do. And we kick off this third one in May. (Brad: What is a mentorship?) That's great question. So a mentorship is a little different than a Mastermind, although, you know, I'm big on community. So if you're in my mentorship, you're still going to have community that you get to learn from and work off of. But a mentorship is basically a group of people who pick someone that they want to learn from because that person teaches or understands or does them in a way that they are like, "I want that." And so if you watch my tutorials, and you take my classes and you just really enjoy the way I teach, you will still sound like you because that is priority number one.Brad Crowell  So specifically we're talking about Pilates.Lesley Logan  Well, you can have a mentorship in anything.Brad Crowell  No, but this is a Pilates mentorship. (Lesley: Yes.) Meaning you're gonna learn basically, classical Pilates from Lesley, as taught to her by her teacher, Jay Grimes....Lesley Logan  And other teachers that I studied from yeah.Brad Crowell  Yeah. And Jay was a student of Joseph Pilates.Lesley Logan  Yes. And you have to already have been a teacher (Brad: Yes) to do it.Brad Crowell  So anyway, there's, there may still be a few spots left for round three, which we'll be getting started in May.Lesley Logan  Yeah, the time of recording this. There's three left. So at the time this comes out if there's still three left. I hope it's you.Brad Crowell  Yeah. Go to lesleylogan.co/elevate for more information on that.Lesley Logan  Yeah. And then this is my birthday month.Brad Crowell  Yeah. Happy birthday.Lesley Logan  Start wishing me happy birthday. Just so you know, if you wish me an early you don't have to also wish me on the day. I get like that people don't like the whole birthday month thing. But like it's just so that you don't have to like you go, "Oh, I missed it." You haven't missed it. Because you have a whole month to tell me. And there's gonna be some amazing, yummy stuff that we are cooking up for you. And we'll let you know. So make sure you're listening to the ads on this show or paying attention to what we emailed out because I'm I don't know what that birthday bash is going to be at. (Brad: Yeah. We're still working it out.) Still working it out. And lastly, on the ...Brad Crowell  One thing we're not working out which is totally in stone and happening.Lesley Logan  Oh yeah. And let me just say dialed and this is our eighth round of Agency Mini which is our coaching group, which is different than elevate because this is that everything but the exercise which what is what Profitable Pilates has always been.Brad Crowell  It's all about the business side of (Lesley: Yeah) running a fitness business.Lesley Logan  And if you're listening to this in real time, if you're not already on the waitlist, get on it because we're going to open up the doors probably any day now for people to join in the group early. We started this last summer with Agency Mini seven where we actually let those people who were like early like overachievers and got signed up right away. We let them in the group early so they can actually do some homework to get prepared for the week of a mini. (Brad: Prep work. Yeah, yeah.) Yeah, Agency Mini is all about clarity, y'all. You're going to literally have clarity on your business who you work with, how you help them, how they find you, what you offer all those ... (Brad: What you should charge?) what you should charge, you know, what's your schedule, all those things. And of course, any question in between and beyond is appropriate to ask us. But our workshop is designed and the homework designed to really help you have clarity, because if you don't have clarity, you're just gonna get overwhelmed. And so this is our eighth one. And we say this all the time, if you've been listening for a while, but we don't know exactly the dates of Agency Mini number nine, but I can tell you, it's in the fall, which means almost next year, and if you if you wait nine plus months, for coaching on your business, you're probably keeping yourself from sanity making the money you want to make working with the people, you want to have having boundaries that just make you feel like a rockstar, all those things.Brad Crowell  Yeah. And if, if you're like anybody else, and you've heard that dreaded R word, the recession, you know, we are working with all of our everyone who's in Agency, we're working through all of that stuff together. So if that's something that is causing fear in your life, you're not alone, there's a community of people who are still also worried about clients and retention, and getting new clients and growing and all those same things. And that's definitely a common topic of conversation. SoLesley Logan  And also, y'all because at the time of this, like, it's really unclear if we're having one, if we're in one, (Brad: Yeah) if there's going to be one, it's also going to be very different than the one that was in 2008, which is, I think, what everyone fears, (Brad: Right) because it's a very different reason for being in one. So what I have to say about that just really quickly is your fear is going to make you do some really fucked up shit in your business. And you might end up discounting things before you need to, or saying yes to working on your days off and you're gonna burn out and you're going you might end up making decision ...Brad Crowell  ... resentment and creates more fear.Lesley Logan  Yeah. Or also you could offer services at a price that literally cost you money. And (Brad: Right) so then for it, you actually start to lose your business. So what's really important and what we pride ourselves in an agency is every time something like this comes up in any part of the world, or like when the world went pandemic, we all get to work with each other and you can see a possibility is there are studios in there that are so thriving. It is unbelievable. They're like what our work and there's other studios that are struggling and it's because we have to change their messaging so that they're reaching the right people you can no longer can you just go Pilates six o'clock Tuesday, that doesn't work. People need to know why why you, why are you there to help them and that's going to work on Agency Mini. So definitely join us by the way, the cost of Agency Mini the full price I can't remember it's, it's like $75. Right? (Brad: $62.50) $62.50 holy frickin molly ...Brad Crowell  For one week of coaching and we will effectively answer any question that you have.Lesley Logan  And if we have early bird going on right now, when you click the link in the show notes, then lucky youBrad Crowell  It's only 25 bucks if that's the case. (Lesley: Yeah. So there you go. Okay.) Yeah, so you can find that at profitablepilates.com/mini. (Lesley: Yeah) Profitable. I know I like flub that word profitablepilates.com/mini.Lesley Logan  It's just a really like, I'm gonna be really honest, all of the everything except for my own name. And then people get that wrong. All of our titles. I'm like ... I feel (Brad: Yeah, that's a novels.) like Sally Sally sold sold seashells at the seashore. Like, I feel like I need to do that before I say any of our web addresses. Anyways, profitablepilates.com/mini. Get yourself over there. We cannot wait to work with you. (Brad: Yeah, do it.) Okay. Before we go into Alan, which I can't wait. I think we're gonna probably go long. We had an audience question.Brad Crowell  We did. The question and this is a great question. I'm glad you DMed. And I've been following your posts. And I feel that I'm at a point where I need to do a coaching call with you. My business is really complicated. But I feel like it's not growing the way that I want. How do I book a call and what is the cost?Lesley Logan  I love this question. It came through on my Profitable Pilates, Instagram. And I just want to like couple things. When I read this, I was like, I kind of can feel like I read between the lines. When I hear complicated business. It tells me like you have a lot of great ideas and you're trying to have too, you have too many fires going on. Or maybe you've got like some like membership over here, but packages over here like you've ...Brad Crowell  Right. We like complicated offerings.Lesley Logan  Yeah. And I'm not saying that those were the wrong things to create. But we often do that when we're trying to put an idea together and then we try to mold it to people without having some guidance. (Brad: Sure) And hi, did that. (Brad: Yeah, been there.) been there and and that is why we got coaching and also like some things we had to get rid of and some things we had to tweak. And some things we have changes in streamline things. And so first of all, there isn't a complicated business, we have not been able to uncomplicate if you can take the right actions and second of all, yes, I do do coaching calls, so does Brad and we actually have four amazing other coaches inside of Agency. But that's a specific word. It's all inside of Agency. We don't have any outside coaching calls and here's why. There's so much information that goes into a coaching call because we don't have any like formulas or tools. We're like, "Okay, this is your problem. Here's your solution." Here's like, we don't have an if this then that. (Brad: It's not templates.) Yeah, that's a good word for it. So what we have to actually do is know you, I know your goals, and we want to make sure we have your magic number figured out. We want to look at all these things, we tweak it apart. And then also, you're gonna have questions afterwards. And I know, I know people we're like, "No, no one called me enough." Is not enough, is not enough. And you're gonna go home, I know what you want to why? Because I have a coaching call with my coach. And then a week later, I'm like, "Oh, what did she mean by that? I need to call her up." And guess what? I have to do it within her boundaries, which is in her mastermind that's a year long program. It's the same thing we haven't said of Agency, we need you to be in the group so that we can actually guide you along because you're gonna have questions and we don't want you off on your own. Going, "Okay, this is what they said. And now I don't know what this means. And I'm just gonna have to do it or worse have wasted that money and I just do things the way I been doing it."Brad Crowell  Yeah, so yes, we absolutely offer coaching calls. You can only book them if you're inside of Agency. So the best way to do that is to go to profitablepilates.com/agency or if you want to have a teaser of what Agency is. Join us in Mini like we were just talking about so profitablepilates.com/mini.Lesley Logan  It's a great way to see if you like our vibes. Right. (Brad: Yeah) And like hear how we coach. So cool. Brad Crowell  Okay, now let's talk about Alan Stein, Jr. His first love in life was basketball. And before he became an author and keynote speaker, Alan Stein, Jr. shared his lessons, strategies and mindsets with some of the world's best basketball players as a performance training coach. He even had, like, you know, deals with Nike and you know, Adidas and whatever these massive companies ... (Lesley: His resume is ridiculous.) It's kind of insane. He's worked with like crazy athletes in basketball for 20 years being performance coaches for them. But Alan now leads and he coaches, leaders and organizations on how to use those same tactics that he was helping the the players in the court, he helps leaders and organizations to become the best at what they do, and level up on their personal court, or their business core.Lesley Logan  I love that. That's super cute. It's not he's got basketball to use sports for leadership and I love to use like dating for for businesses. So I feel like, you know, all works together. Anyways, okay, where do I start?Brad Crowell  Okay. I think this is something that you say all the time. And it's basically it's has something to do with boring.Lesley Logan  Oh, yes. Perfect is so boring. (Brad: Yeah) And I loved he talked about, like, the justification for why like he actually justified why perfect is unattainable and boring. So he has a measuring stick, Am I doing the best I can with what I have, wherever I am? What a great question to ask yourself. So we have somebody who are like ...Brad Crowell  Well, before he got to, he forgets that point, though. That's his, that's how he lives his life today. He talked about his fear of unworthiness, driving that pursuit of perfection, so he didn't feel worthy. And so he thought, "Alright, well, if I don't feel worthy. I need to feel worthy. So I'm going to be the absolute best at my thing, at my craft, at my game, at my all of the things." And so it drove him down this path, pursuit of perfection. Right. And it's an unattainable goal.Lesley Logan  Yeah. Thanks for taking us back on the journey. I'll make sure I don't forget what I was ever I was saying. I probably did. But it's okay because I'm not perfect. And thank God for that. So life isn't a perfect game. In that episode, we actually talked about like that there's never been a perfect game ever. (Brad: Right.) There's never been a perfect game ...Brad Crowell  Yeah. So it was like no fouls, no, like, no ...Lesley Logan  No missed baskets. No, no, whatever.Brad Crowell  Those three stats and he said, "Never in the history of basketball has been a perfect game."Lesley Logan  Yeah, I mean, you know before like, at the time of recording this you all the World Cup was going on. There has not been a single game with all those incredible players we can all say are the best of the best where they live and where they're from. That has been perfect. And I know because I my little news app would show like this awful thing of some amazing player making a mistake. Of course that's what they show. And I think that's our fears like everyone is going to see the mistake you made just so you know, very few people are going to know the mistake that you made and you are not that mistake that you made and so life isn't a perfect game. And he his his new measuring stick, which was I talked about earlier is that, "Am I doing the best I can with what I have wherever I am?" And I think this is what's cool because I don't want us to take away is that you don't have to strive to be better or or like you, can you like that at any strive of trying to be a better version of you, is pursuit of pursuit of perfection? That's not it because we all can get stronger or learn more or do better as we know better. But I love this question where it's like, "Am I doing the best I can with what I have wherever I am?" Because if that ever is a no, that's when you know, "Okay, now it's time for me to level up or learn more or do this thing." But if the answer is yes, like it's fucking chill out. Take a beat. So a couple of bullet points, except that I have flaws.Brad Crowell  Yeah, he's talking about his you know, the reality of it.Lesley Logan  Yeah. You're like, he's like, he's fallible. I'm going to make mistakes. I'm going to make boneheaded decisions. We all do. Because also, you know, we're all going back to Chris's podcast, like, we all fear you never, like you're never going to be fear, like, without fear ever, we add a new level, and you just get better at identifying it faster. But you are going to make decisions based off of that and go, "That was dumb." Right? There'll be days where I'm going to, or I'm in a funk or feeling lousy. Give yourself permission to feel and do things to be less than perfect. And that is really hard. So for those who are like, "How do I practice that though?" Like, here's some apical ways. Don't overthink your frickin social media posts. Like just like, right, there is a great, great place to practice being imperfect. Like don't worry if that no one cares with commas, they're they're not reading all the words anyways. If they go, "You to put a period here." And go, "Oh, thanks so much for editing that." Like seriously, like, I it was really hard, like, part of my ditching perfection was like when someone was, was editing my posts for me and the captions. And I was just like, okay, and I went back and edit as like, thanks so much. Another thing you can do is like, if you're practicing Pilates, and I know some of you are teachers, or those of you who have like, started doing Pilates with us, just allowing your practice to be what it is. So it's not that you're like, like just flinging your arms around. But you're noticing, "Oh, wow, that isn't feeling the way it did yesterday." Okay, you know, and not going, "Oh, I didn't get that right. I'm never hitting the mat again." So and then he also said, instead, focus on giving your best effort, and having the best attitude to be kind and of service, do the best you can with what you have, wherever you are. And that just goes back to his measuring stick. Am I doing the best I can with what I have wherever I am? Sometimes, like, oftentimes the answer is yes. You guys. Like oftentimes the answer is yes.Brad Crowell  Yeah, one thing that you were talking about with the World Cup, and you know, these players being on the world stage, and also not being perfect. I'm sure you heard about the, the captain of the US team was put in a very, very difficult position by an antagonistic journalist. And he asked him like, you know, he accused him first of pronouncing Iran incorrectly. And then he asked him, "How could he represent the United States when there's so much racism that happens in the United States?" And it was like this really, like, touchy moment. And the this guy 23 years old. His response was, "I'm terribly sorry, that that I pronounced your country's name incorrectly. And I'm grateful for you for correcting me on how to say it." Right. And secondly, he said, "You know, in the United States we're pursuing, you know, we're in pursuit of being better and in pursuit of being of being less racist. And that's how I can justify representing my country, because we are pursuing something better." And I thought at first, I thought that was an unbelievably like, (Lesley: Oh, my God.) well, like, well ...Lesley Logan  I didn't even breath, was waiting to hear what he said.Brad Crowell  Oh, man, it was like it could have been clearly so bad. But it was an amazing, amazing response. And but one, what I felt was incredible was the first off the humility that he showed by saying, I'm he straight up, apologize. There wasn't even a hesitation you said, "I'm sorry. I, I definitely said it wrong. And thank you for teaching me." (Lesley: Yeah) You know, and and, you know, when you're pursuing perfection, like you actually, this is another point that we that I hadn't even included, including our lineup here. But Alan actually said, you asked him a really great question, "Over your career of training these people. Did you notice any recurring theme among like these epic athletes?" And he said, "Oh, yeah, there are three trends from high performers." One is they respected the foundation, the basics, they keep going back to the basics. Second is that they blend confidence with humility in a masterful way. And the third is he said they were very process focused, right. And so that second point of being him, having humility, being humble, you know, was well, I was put this guy knows he's not perfect. And he was humble about it when, you know, like, put in a really tough position on the world stage. So ...Lesley Logan  Yeah, I mean, and here's like, you know, I think we, I mean, we can't I'm, those questions are just so harsh. A little like, out of to me like very antagonistic is the best word. I think we have to I try to assume that like most people who are making mistakes without being perfect are like there were not intentional mistakes, you know, like, the him saying the country's name incorrectly I have heard in our country that kind of that name said in so many ways. (Brad: Yeah) I you know what I mean? So like, I feel like, I feel like one what we can learn from that is like, an instant apology, and it should be enough. And like, it is, it is okay to be in process. Like we make mistakes all the time. Most are unintentional. And I think if we can all go that was like, let's give that person that grace to correct that. And also, and then those people who have made the mistake giving yourself the grace to go, "Okay, what happened here? Okay, I didn't know that. Now, I do. Now, I won't make that mistake again." And just moving forward, like Jen van Barneveld-Pe said in her episode with us correct and continue, correct and continue. (Brad: Right) Like, you can't go back and like re say how you did that. So you just have to take make that correction and continue. And that's it goes back to that like process of those athletes we're doing?Brad Crowell  Yeah, totally and absolutely. And you also mentioned something that leads right into my point (Lesley: Great) which I loved ...Lesley Logan  ... loved when, I'm a good transition.Brad Crowell  You mentioned grace. You know, you the two of you really got into a couple of different things. Like what do you do when you make a bad decision? Right. And you were just kind of talking about getting back to process? But also how making a bad decision? What's the first thing we do is we beat ourselves up? (Lesley: Yeah) You know, and, you know, so when, when Alan was talking about his own pursuit of perfection, and how is an unattainable goal? And, you know, what did he do? How did he come to the realization that, you know, he's not gonna be perfect is because he was making these mistakes. And he said, ultimately, he realized, I have to give myself grace when I make a mistake like that. I have to give myself space. I have to be kind to myself. And he said, the worst thing we can do is pile on the shame, the guilt, the criticism, in our own self talk. (Lesley: Yeah) Because it keeps us in a loop of fear, of anger, you know, (Lesley: Oh, yeah.) depression and like, leads to depression. You know, so he said, you know, how do you do this? You know, he said, "Well, what if it wasn't you that made the mistake? What if it was someone that you loved?" You know, more likely than not, you're going to say to them, "Hey, you know, you made a mistake, you know, and that's, you know, maybe it's, maybe what you did needs to be corrected, but it was a mistake." And we can move through this, you know, and he said, you know, "Speak to yourself with the same kindness, compassion, empathy, that you would show for a loved one." And then you two had a fascinating conversation about the things that you say to yourself, you probably would never say to someone else.Lesley Logan  Oh, yeah. You know, it's so interesting. I know, everyone's hearing this going, "Yeah, yeah, yeah." And then like, and then it happens, and like, something recently happened was an unintentional mistake that that we made. And I found myself fighting to, like, apply all of this. And like, in real time, like, don't pile on the shame. But I felt shame. Don't pile on the guilt. I felt guilt. (Brad: Sure) I felt guilt in a weird way because I was like ... I didn't intend to make that mistake. But like, because I am a recovering perfectionist, I found myself finding things to feel guilty over. You know, because I was just like, you know, and then the criticism and I found myself fighting back and forth, not to be angry at the mistake itself and not to be angry at the people but like to my attention and not be angry at myself. It is not easy. And so even in your pursuit to be kind and gracious to yourself, you won't be perfect. (Brad: Sure) And I don't necessarily want to go through that again. But I do hope that the next time I make an unintentional mistake, or even just a mistake, that had unintentional consequences that I can shorten up how hard I am, or, and try to get back to the grace because it is it like what it did do was like 1,000% took me out of what was in purpose. It took me into a place where like I really was struggling to even make any decisions. And that actually hurts everybody. (Brad: Yeah) That hurts everybody even more than the the mistake. And and oftentimes the mistake is not even as big as it is. But even if it is, even if it feels like it's on this world stage of sorts, you know, I don't believe that we are, we are the one mistake we've made like we are more than that. And I do love, like, how would you talk to a family member? It's like, okay, if it says this happened to somebody else in my family, I'd probably say these things. And that did help calm me down and at least get me to like finish work for that day.Brad Crowell  Yeah. And I liked what you said about, well, so your thoughts become habits. Right. And I know we talked about this in another episode, that we can choose our thoughts, and we can break that cycle of negative self talk. And each time you do that, you're creating a new path for your brain to go down. And while you are still going to feel the the shame, feel the guilt, feel the frustration. Instead of it being something that can, you know, derail everything, maybe it's a smaller experience that time. And then, okay, let's get on this new brain, you know, this groove that we've carved in our brain of, okay, have the conversation with yourself of, you know, being creating, that grace, that space, that kindness. And, you know, as we go through life, because it's a lifelong pursuit, you know, maybe we can shift more quickly as we grow.Lesley Logan  Yeah. Which I think is great. So I just this conversation was amazing.Brad Crowell  Yeah. I was so impressed by he's, so he's clearly a thinker. And he's like the epitome of of like, the coach that you see in a movie, you know what I mean? And like, like, the things he was saying ...Lesley Logan  You hear that Alan, you need to be in a movie. (Brad: Yeah.) They should make a movie about you. (Brad: Yeah.)Brad Crowell  You know, the things he was saying are, he's put so much thought and so much study into working with performance. And it comes across and he was going through, I mean, everything you two were talking about, could have been the theme of this recap episode. Just so much amazing quality perspectives in there. That's why I listened to it three times.Lesley Logan  Yeah, I don't know. We'll have to find a reason. We'll have to happen back again. Because there's more to talk about. He has two books. (Brad: Love it.) So go listen to him and Agency we actually picked his book for our January book club. (Brad: Oh, fun.) So yeah, I'm very excited for them, too. I know a lot of them listen to an audio. So I'm excited for them to hear his voice.Brad Crowell  Amazing. All right. So finally, let's talk about those BE IT action items. What bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted action items can we take away from your conversation with Alan Stein, Jr.? I'm gonna go first. So I thought this was really profound. I thought this was really slam dunk in.Lesley Logan  It's a slam dunk, it's just a slam dunk.Brad Crowell  He said, have a crystal clear vision of who you want to be 20 years from now. And he rattled off a list of like, three different major bullet points of who he wants to be, how he wants to operate. Like the things he wants to see in his life, the family, the friends he wants to see in his life, the things he's trying to do for others. I thought it was really impressive. He like knows that by heart, it was a crystal clear vision. And he said in as if you know who you want to be 20 years from now. Every single decision you make today should be done should be made through the lens of is this going to help me become closer to that person I want to be 20 years from now? Or is it going to take me further away? And he boiled that down all the way to, what am I watching on Netflix tonight? What food am I eating? What am I going to bed? What is my morning routine like? I mean all these things every single decision that you make, should drive yourself towards being that person and he said you know what the byproduct is? You become that person today.Lesley Logan  Well, you know that's all be it till you see it and I you brought up Netflix and I'm so I'm not ready to give up my habits ... There's some other places I could probably make it happen. I just wanted to middle some series and I just have to get the questions answered.Brad Crowell  Well, aside from that. (Lesley: I know but ...) What about you?Lesley Logan  I actually have I wanted to do this because it's in this month because I'm like, it's so easy to picture 60. (Brad: Sure) Because it's my 40th birthday month. And, and I'm like, "Oh, 60 like Oprah." Like, you know, I'm just, I think she's probably past 60 at this point, but I remember when she turned 60 and like, "Oh, I can picture that." And like, it doesn't have to be scary, doesn't be like, "Oh, I'm going to be 60 in 20 years." Like, what? What, at 60 fucking hope I'm retired, and what am I doing, and I can't wait. So that's the fun, thanks for that BE IT action. And my favorite, of course, has to do with free routines, self audit of you, your morning and evening routines. So this is great. This is for my people who like, like, they're like tell me how to journal, tell me what to do. So you grab a piece of paper, I mean, just remind you what it is, on the left side of the paper, I want you to come up with an exhaustive list of all the things that fill your bucket and nourish your soul. And you guys, it might take you a day, like you might have to like put this list and like set it down and like walk off and then all of a sudden you like, someone opens the door for you at the coffee shop and you're sitting there and friendly slash like, oh, fresh flowers nourish ... like, you know what I mean? Like it might be, if you've not done this and you're not paying attention to it, it might take you a little bit longer than just like a brain dump. Okay. And give yourself permission to have that time. Then on the right side of the page, I want you to write down, oh, he wants you to interrupt me. He wants you to write down how you've been spending the bookends of your day. So your morning, evening routine. Then he wants you to compare the two sets of notes. And ask yourself a very important question. Are you doing things in your morning and evening routine that will fill your bucket and make you feel most alive? So if what is on the left is not hanging out in your morning and evening on the right, you got some things to do.Brad Crowell  So let's say on the left side, if something that fills your cup is spending quality time with your significant other or maybe connecting, reconnecting with your family. And in your morning and evening routines. You're not setting aside the time to do that quality time. Maybe that's an adjustment that you should be making.Lesley Logan  Yeah, yeah. And, and you guys, it's not all or nothing, right? So like, like five minutes at a time is where we can make increments and I know you're like that's nothing but five times seven is 35 quality minutes you didn't have last week with that person. (Brad: Sure) And you may find because of the way the brain works, that you're enjoying it so much you end up finding eight minutes, and then 10 minutes and then 30 minutes. All of a sudden you're like what or something cancelling you're like we can have a whole evening a quality time together like your brain will start be seeking out more of what makes you feel good. Like that's how it works. (Brad: Yeah) But you've got to be spending time in the field good so your brain can start to seek that out. So anyways, Alan, you're fucking amazing. Y'all, I'm Lesley Logan.Brad Crowell  I'm Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan  Thank you so much for joining us today. How are you going to use these tips in your life? Seriously, let us know. Tag @alansteinjr, tag the @be_it_pod. We are so grateful for you. I can't believe we're going into another year with you. (Brad: Yeah) This is like technically year two but like year three, I'm not really sure what the calendar. At any rate, it's been awesome. And we are we are we're so we're so grateful to have you. So we'll catch you on the next episode.Brad Crowell  Bye for now.That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review. And follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcasts. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the @be_it_pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. 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I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guests will bring Bold, Executable, Intrinsic and Targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Hey loves, how's it going? It's just me today. It's just me today. So hopefully that's exciting for you. We did solo episodes a little bit earlier in the summer, and we got some great feedback from you guys. So we'll be tossing these in. And every once well, especially when it applies to what kind of timely right now, and that is that this is the, that those last few months of the year and they can feel very, they can feel a little worrying, right? Like it starts to get really busy. I know for me, it's very busy. So at the time I'm recording this, we are getting ready for Agency Mini, by the time you share this, we probably have already finished it. But I'm also before that going to Nashville, coming back doing Mini and going to Chicago, coming back doing something else then going to Cambodia. Oh, I forgot there's new people at my house in between all of that for our business retreat. And then and then it's Thanksgiving, and all of a sudden it's Thanksgiving. And so this is a time of the year that can feel really overwhelming. There's a couple things I want to actually remind you of. You get to do this, like you get to do this. And I really, if you are struggling, if you're feeling overwhelmed, I really want you to reframe a little bit and just go, "I get to do this." Now if you don't want to do what you're doing, that is something to write down. So something I think is really cool about how we feel about things is that they are there, there are signs that you don't want to be doing the thing, or you don't be doing the thing with that person or that time. And you the more you pay attention to these things, the more you make notes, the more you can make conscious decisions. So for example, I actually love to travel, I love to go to Cambodia, there are so many things I love to do about it. So I am this busy season, not at no point am I going, oh my God, I have to do all this stuff, I get to do all this stuff. And I actually plan for all these things to happen when they're happening because this is kind of the time of the year that I really like to do all that. I like to pack it in, I like to make sure that we see all the faces of the people that we love. I really do like to do all of those things. Now, in the summertime, when I like want to be in chill vibes, I am not planning those things. I'm not doing them. In fact, when we did do them this summer, just like as a trial, my body was like, "Why are you doing this? It's summertime, it's summer vibes." So what is cool about journaling, or even just documenting or taking note somewhere about how you feel in your body, about different things as they can give you signs, about what to say yes to and no to in the future. And so there have been people who have been requesting a retreat for us to do in the summertime and we're not doing that. Now, there are a couple reasons I can say I don't do that. And they're very valid, that the weather in Cambodia is not exactly, exactly ideal for doing a retreat. Not only is it hot, but there's monsoons and we can't control them. And it's crazy rain, and I don't want people to fly all the way out there. And then we can't see the temples because the rain is insane. Right. So those are some reasons. And the other big reasons I don't want to. I don't want to I want to use my summers to reflect on the meaning of the year to plan for the fall of the year, to make sure we're all set up to rest, relax, to visit with friends as they come into town. So and those are all things I learned over the last couple of years of testing things. So it's okay that you didn't know about the things that you said yes to that you didn't maybe like the time that they were, the location that they were until you did them. That's okay. You don't have to be a psychic. Most of us are not. And in fact, some people who are aren't. So, so I think it's just really important to be kind to yourself, and acknowledge when things feel really good. Okay, what about that feels really good? What is it that people that you're with? Is the time that it was? Is it how it was planned out? What about that feels really good so that you can a) use those as green lights and green signals to say yes to in the future? What about it, didn't you like so you can use those red flags? And so every time I get asked to speak every time we plan a thing we could to look back at, like what didn't work before, what we liked about it, what people liked about it and then make decisions going on, which is why perfect is boring, which is why that waiting until something's perfect is the wrong thing to do. I wouldn't know 90% of this information until I had gone in there, done a retreat in August, done different things at different times of the year. That said yes to programs that were unorganized, disorganized, you know, that kind of thing. So I wouldn't know that, I wouldn't know what is actually important to me about organization and what isn't had I not experienced it and then felt it in my body. And so all of this is to say if you had a summer or for my southern hemisphere people had a winter where there was things that you loved and things that you didn't love, pay attention to what those things are and then use those things for moving forward. Okay.So that is kind of kind of how I kind of kind of it is exactly how I try to say yes or no to things and plan things on our calendar. And it's just really important to me. The other way is just really listening to you guys. So those of you who fill out the surveys at beitpod.com/tellme. Thank you, those are really great, when you interact with us in any of our other programs, Agency, OPC, we do a lot of surveys, we love surveys. They really help us figure out how we can be better at things, what things actually matter to you, you can be really easy ladies too. And I say ladies, I know there's a few good men listening, hello. But there's it can be really easy to think we need to add more, do more, give more. And truthfully, sometimes that can be overwhelming. Or they can be really overwhelming for some people. We'd ask them their server like, "Would you like more episodes?" And some people said, "Yes." And other people said, "It's enough." And I'm like, "Great. I'm not going to do dailies, if you don't want that." Now, if you all want that, then let me know. But we truly don't I don't want to overwhelm you without your request. And also your acknowledgement that that's what you want, right? So this is really great. Whether you're in business or not. And maybe you're like Lesely I'm not in business. You can survey with the people around you. You can you can ask questions, you can get feedback from people about yourself, you can even say, "Hey, you know, I'm actually trying to figure out what I want to do for the end of the year. Can you think of a time this summer where you notice that I was a little bit more frantic, frenetic, exhausted? And can you remember time this summer that I was excited, jubilated and joyful feeling at ease?" People around you spend time with you will know, they'll know. They'll remember. And that can be really helpful. Okay, so I say all this because in the last solo episode, I told you, I was being it till I see it. And right now, and I really have been working on that. And I noticed that there's an old story, I'll have to tell myself, which is that I'm too busy. Maybe you know that one, maybe you know that story. And sometimes I, in order to feel like I am in control of things that are uncontrollable, I will do more. So then they're not easy. And, and I'm getting stressed out and, and so that doesn't work. So I've been really working on some mantras and daily meditations, I've actually changed my morning routine a ton, and I'm still tweaking it as we speak. And for someone who loves routine that can be overwhelming, and also can be really exciting. It's really all how you reframe it. So one of the things that I am trying to do is a) work on my sleep. I've actually always had struggle with sleep situations, and stress. So I am someone who just because the childhood that I had I and it wasn't bad. Honestly, it wasn't bad. It just that I, as an oldest child of little kids and we're all born around the same time. I definitely took on a lot of stress around me and tried to fix a lot of things and do over the doer. I'm a doer. And I pride of myself on that actually I'm an, it's one of my strengths, I'm really good at. But a strength can be a weakness if you don't know when to use it and when not to use it. Right. So in these last couple of months, I've been really looking at my morning routine and seeing where parts of it can be switched into the afternoon because I do work from home. And what I could add to my morning that would allow me to set myself up to be in the most abundant receiving ease, ease full mode, strength base mode, just totally in tune like I really want the mornings to feel less like, Oh my God, I have all these things to do." And more like, "Okay, I get to do these things," kind of like how I started this episode. And that's something I share with you because something that I have always struggled with like I'm a very positive person like bright side up kind of person, but equally can get a little down about things especially when things are out of my control.So then I start to do more and then when does it happen is I'm not in receiving mode, I'm not actually noticing opportunities around me and I'm too busy to be the person I want to be for those I love. So that is not prioritization of self, that is not putting myself first, that is not taking messy action, that is trying to be perfect in some other way. And so the last couple of months I've really been doing that and I started off with adding in my red light therapy to that routine. I also stopped doing my morning Instagram talks, you guys it's not because I don't love doing them. I just was like I really want to take in the surroundings more, I really want to be at ease more. I don't actually want to have to work right now. Right. So that doesn't mean I won't do them anymore. It just means I need to do them later in my morning and I'm working on putting them back in. So as I be it till I see it, what I am doing is catching myself when I say I'm too busy and doing what I would think a non busy person who is confident and positive and abundant and supportive of their business and their team and their dreams would do? So that's the whole premise of the Be It Till You See It Podcast acting as if before you're ready, right? So if I look at, if I think what a woman who runs a massive company, who takes care of herself, what does she do? How is her morning routine? What is that setup? So I did a lot of research on things you can do to make your body sleep better. As I mentioned, I'm working on my sleep. So your sleep for the night starts in the morning before and we can thank Huberman for his podcasts on that. But and there's a bunch of other studies on that. But really, truly, like, I do already wake up pretty early. So I do get the morning light of the day. And so I was like, "Okay, well, that's helping my sleep out. So what else can help my sleep out?" So I've been working on doing those things. So I've been changing my morning routine up to rabbit symbol, what I imagine a woman who runs a company, who prioritize prioritize their self first but do the morning. And that required some changes in my morning because I was really pushing a lot of things into my morning routine, and feeling the sense of urgency that they had to get done, and they weren't of ease. And of course, that's what we're trying to be until we see is that easefulness on this and running this business. And so I have in the last few weeks shifted that morning routine to my workout. Some of them happen a little later. Sometimes they happen in the same time. So every day is actually now different, which is weird for me. But I'm finding a lot of fun in that and flow in that and a little bit of like rebelliousness that I don't always let myself have in that. So that's super cool. I will when we get to my favorite things list off a lot of the things that I'm doing in the morning that you can borrow, we've got affiliate links or links below that you can enjoy. So as I be it till I see it in that what it is challenging me on is watching my responses to things because no longer do the old responses, the quick responses apply, I actually need to take a step back. And so when I say, "Oh, I don't have time." I actually go right now. When does that need to be done and then I look and see when I can get it done. And it's kind of amazing. I used to also think I didn't have time to meditate every day. Wrong. I have since figured out that I can. So watching the stories I tell myself that are keeping me from being it till I see it is something that I am in constant practice with. And I wonder if I always will be. I don't know, jury's out, I'll keep you posted. So hopefully that is helpful for you just like seeing like, not perfect. We're still working on it. Every day is kind of a challenge based on like the old way of thinking and the stories I told myself that made me feel safe and made me feel secure, that made me you know, not go off and do some crazy things. And now those things are actually holding me back and the growth of what I'm trying to do. And like I am on a mission, more bodies doing Pilates, and I cannot do that if I don't think I have time. Because I need to be able to create time so I can tell you how to create time. Right.So okay, now, some of you always ask us, like, what are some books I'm reading right now. And I am going to let you know, since I talked to Coach Lee, I have been doing my E-Squared book, I'm not doing it as quickly as I did the first time, I'm kind of stopping at different chapters and waiting until I want to do the experiment before I go on to the next chapter. So I it's actually going really cool and it's actually a really good reminder. There are some things that she wrote in there that I want to just like paint on my walls. So E-Squared by Pam Grout, she's still on the list to get on the pod. So if you know her hook a sister up. Okay, um, then I was I had some girls out, you may remember Brad and I the time I had some girls come to visit that I kind of met through friends of friends. And we all like, "Let's do a friend's weekend." And I highly recommend you do that. I know that can sound really scary. And really, it can be even expensive sounding. The truth is you can you can make it whatever it needs to be. But shared experience is really do make a difference in how you feel and who you surround yourself with makes a difference. We have had multiple multiple guests come on, and we have another guest coming up who is going to tell you that it really does make a difference who you invite into your energy, who you invite into your circle and how much time you spend around them. And so it might require some boundaries. So on that girls weekend, they ment... mentioned, Florin Sho... Scholar Shine. Hold on, let's just pull up her book because I just finished it. It's actually really old. Okay, so I listened to it on Audible and I'm going to be super, oh Florence Scovel Shinn, there it is. So, my autocorrect, I got that weird. So I got the complete works on Audible. I don't even think it charged me a credit. And somebody reads it. The words that she uses, like Victrola. And I just imagine people walking around like the old old New York of like, the 1890s As I'm reading it, but the stuff still makes sense. And it does mention God a lot. So you can insert your own word for that there. And she does and occasional spots but I listened to it on a dog walk because I was like, I just need to be around as much positivity as I can. And the first book I will say is the best one of all of them. A great reminder of being very like actually knowing what you need more of, and, and asking for that. And then being aware of that we've talked about that with Dr. Philippe Douyon, where it's like your eyes and ears are seeing what your brain is looking for. So if you're very co... conscious of what it is that you're looking for, you will then look for evidence for that. And there was some really cool stories in that first book. So I really recommend it. The rest of them it was it was good. I think the first one is a good good place to stop. I have Burnout by Emily and Amelia Nagos... Nagoski, on my Audible that I'm going to next. It's actually part of the book club that we have for Agency. And I'm really excited about I heard them on Brené Brown, and I've had it on my list for a long time. It is a long book. So it's just been working my way to it. And then I just bought the source that we talked about in Stef Caldwell's episode, there's actually a couple books called The Source. So if you actually look back at Stef's episode, we'll put the link in the show notes. There's a specific the source that we want. But again, it just goes into this. There's science around manifestation. And when you can't just do all the things like we... it is we're telling ourselves a lie if we think that we can control all the parts are going to make anything happen. There are a lot of things, there's always a lot of things going on. In fact, like there's stuff in your personal life that's going on, great and not so great. There's stuff in your professional life that's going on, great and not so great. There's stuff in your health that's going on, great and not so great. Right? It is like a disservice and illusion if you think you can actually control all of those things you can't. So you can do what you can do. And then the next thing you have to do is like think like Hazel Ortega have some miracle goals around it be really specific, and then start looking for evidence for it to be true. So I'm like big on those books, I really think that they're gonna help me as I close up this year. As I plan for what we're gonna do in 2023, it has been an interesting 2022 and just doing a lot of things, testing things, changing things. And so I am trying to spend a lot of time on what do I really want? What are we doing all this for? How do we want to be when we're doing that? That's what I'm working on. So as with those books are going to you'll see there's a theme there. As always, you know, you can ask us any questions, you can DM the pod on Instagram and ask us any questions that you have around business, health, personal goals, and Brad and I will answer them on the recaps. And we want your question. So please do DM us. Okay, now, two of my favorite things. Okay, so I Brad calls me a total consumer. It's true. I am, I I really am and I have a lot of fun trying out new things. I do, I don't do a ton of research but I will oftentimes, like want something, look it up. I say yes to all the cookies, because I'm like, yes, track me down, ratio this to my face, let me know when you're having some Labor Day sale.You know, I'm like a, I'm a big fan of cookies. And you guys, you can all use cookies and ads to like, help you see the things you want to see. So you can hate them. But like that's how small businesses make money. And also big businesses too. But the other thing is, is like you can actually say yeah, actually, I would love it if you show me more of this, you just click on the ad and then that they'll, make sure you see that more often. So anyways, um, couple of these things gonna talk to you about are things that have been on my list for a while. So first thing, we talked about my red light therapy before, I really love the one that I have. I have it on, I actually bought like a tray for it that's on wheels, it's like a little stand on wheels, so that I can wheel it in front of my meditation chair, and then I can wheel it back into the closet. So I'm super excited about that. First I had to just like out on a thing, and I had to move it, move it back. And you know what, let's just be really honest, people, it's hard, we're not going to do it right. So I had to, I had to go buy a tray on wheels to make it a little easier. But it is one of the best purchases I've made to go along with that. And there is a ton of studies on red light therapy for people, especially in the morning. And so I'm a big fan of that. And I will say that I have sat in front of it even in the evening when I haven't been feeling as my positive self. And I feel better when I'm done being there. So it's great. I'll read a book on that. What like I'll read a book on my meditation chair in front of the lamp, I'll do breathwork in front of the lamp. I read some emails the other day in front of the lamp like I that's where going back to my morning routine changing on different days, the red light is either part of my meditation, or it's just part of my morning work day so that I can still get it in which is actually super, super cool. Then to go along with this, my chiropractor now light he had both this red light and something called a PEMF mat and I put the link it's my actual affiliate link below. So it should get you directly to the mat and also some fun little goodies that go along with it. And I am I've been wanting this mat for about six months. Every time we go I lay on I have like an hour, I really, it's hard to explain how amazing it makes me feel. But it really does make me feel great. And so I've been saving it, letting it, show up in my ads all the time. And we finally got one and I have used it everyday since. And I'm, this is where I go back to that story. I told myself, I'm too busy. Well, guess what, folks, I wasn't too busy to find an hour each day to lay on it. Since I've got it. So um, so it's kind of crazy. I think when you say you're too busy, you either don't want to do the thing, or you're avoiding doing the thing. And if you're already doing the thing, you're either avoiding it because there's something that scares you about it or you just don't want to do it. So so let that be testament because I bet you the things you really want to do you make time for. Right. So anyways, that link is below I'm obsessed with it. Last time I did a solo episode I told about my favorite water bottle. I'm still obsessed with it. In fact, I have since had a couple of different facials, I have had seen a doctor and my holistic doctor and like, at no point has anyone said I'm dehydrated. I looked hydrated, everything is normal. Everything is great. And I'm super just stoked about this water bottle like it's one of the my favorite things in life. So that link we actually have the affiliate link now and it's below and a bunch of my friends have already bought theirs. We we now I literally almost bought myself another one. And I decided I have to hold back until it's like actually the color I want. So we're patient, we're patiently waiting. Also, I finally got myself a Contrology Wunda Chair. So as you know, if you're in the Pilates world, listening to this. I'm a big fan of that Contrology equipment for my studies with Jay Grimes, like I just really love the way the old equipment was built. And even classical equipment today is not built the same way it was before. And so Contrology has done a wonderful job, really doing a lot of research going back and seeing those old piece of equipment using the old springs to make these new springs and it's incredible. It's very different. We actually got it because we're making the flashcard deck for the chairs now. So if you need an affiliate link to anything by Balanced Body, you can always hit us up, you can those exist on all of our YouTube tutorials. But also, the Contrology equipment is built by Balanced Body and I have an affiliate link for that. But get the Contrology chair is new, it came at the same time as a Ladder Barrel. And I'm sure I'll end up with that. But I really wanted the chair now because we're doing the decks now. And I got it in a really cool blue. I know you've seen my chair, it's hot pink, that color doesn't exist anymore. So I got a hot blue to go with it. I'm just really excited. It's like Barbie pink and Barbie blue like chairs. And I'm just, I think I'm gonna take pictures with them like going to on a date together.Okay, last couple of my favorite things. Naboso hand weights. So I met this woman at Momentum Fest. And I really liked the way that her hand weights felt in my hands like the texture she put in, there's a bunch of science behind it. And as you know, when you do Pilates, you only want one to two pound hand weights. Unless you're my bigger guys. And of course, I'll let you up to five, but nothing more than that, because it gets really distal, and I don't want you to be in your shoulders prefer three actually for you. But anyways, these hand weights are great. They're super fun, you can use them for anything, not just Pilates, and she's got a bunch of other good stuff for waking up your feet, and things like that. So check that out. And then finally, for my business folks who are thinking that they're just too busy, and like, "Where does she find the time?" Here I'm gonna tell you a little secret. In our household, and in our business, we Loom everything. Oh, actually, I'm gonna just be really honest, I don't log into the Loom account as much as everyone else says I'll use Zoom. But Loom Loom is the best. And so you can actually use my affiliate link below. And what it allows you to do is anything that you're already repeating in your life that you do, that you know, you want to someday hand off so life or work, you can Loom. So for example, let's say I don't want to schedule my newsletters anymore. So the next time I go to schedule one, I'm actually going to log into Loom so use my link below to get your account, you'll log in. And then you'll literally just talk to yourself, scheduling your next newsletter. And it will record your screen, record your clicks, record your voice, and you just label it, put in your Dropbox folder. And then when you do hire someone and go, "Here's how you do that. Go take a look at it. Let me know if you have any questions." And hopefully they're able to do it seems to train them. It's all done. So those are my favorite things. Some of them are well most of them are personal health related, then there is some Pilates related and then the business one related. I hope that these are helpful for you. Let me know if you liked this episode, if this if it's if it's good for you to hear like my thought process. I'm a total verbal processor as you can tell, and then what I'm reading and how that helps me be it till I see it and then what I'm using so I can support myself. Y'all, it takes a village okay, it really really does. I do understand that some of the things I'm talking about do come at a cost. And I understand that. So if right now, money is not something you have access to to support who you want to be in this world, can you please take a note out of Rachel Rodgers book, We Should All Be Millionaires. We've talked about this on the podcast before and use the word 'and' instead of 'but I don't have any money', and I don't have any money. And then I really do want you to then listen to that Flo... Florence Scovel Shinn book which I'm pretty sure it's free on on Audible, and hear how like, you can actually just be very specific on what you want. And then your eyes and ears are gonna see an opportunity. Maybe one of these things I've listed, but I say I love ends up at your neighbor's, like, garage sale, maybe ends up on a Facebook sale. Maybe someone's just like, "Hey, I'm moving. I can't take this with me." Right. Like you'd be surprised. What can come to you when you're in receiving mode and when you're aware of what you want. And I hope that these podcasts really help bring that to light and give you something to think about in your life is you can have everything you want. You can. You just have to a) know you want it and then also believe you deserve it, which you do. You don't have to have an excuse for that. You don't have to reason for that. You don't have to explain it to ... to anybody including me. I love you all so much. It is so fun to record these podcasts for you. The solo ones are unique and new for me, so I really do hope that they're helpful. And please if you have feedback, if you have questions, if there is ... guest you want to hear or if you want more solo episodes, then go to beitpod.com/tellme and then we can get you and give us that information and then we can continue to fine tune everything to help all of you, Be It Till You See It.That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It podcast. 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We have all heard it, “sending positive vibes”. But how do “vibes” really play into our day-to-day life? Brad and Lesley recap Dr. Vic's interview and dive into the impact and signs of high vs low vibrations, the importance of finding your anchor, and letting the right energy direct your path. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co . And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:Winter road trips and upcoming events What a high vibration state means The signs of high or low vibrationsThe benefits of operating in a high vibration How to use a pause as a resetWhy you need to be enlightened and aware to use it as a compass for directing energyCreating your vision so you have a compassUse your vibrations to find what is for youEpisode References/Links:Agency Mini profitablepilates.com/mini  If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox.Be It Till You See It Podcast SurveyResourcesWatch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable PilatesSocial MediaInstagramFacebookLinkedInEpisode Transcript:Lesley Logan  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guests will bring Bold, Executable, Intrinsic and Targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co hosts in life, Brad and I are going to dig into the abundant Convo I had with Dr. Vic in our last episode. If you haven't yet listen to that interview with feel back, feel free. Feel free to pause this now and go back and listen to that one and then come back and join us. It was there's so much information, there's so much positivity. (Brad: Yeah.) He was like, he was like taking like a dose like a like a, do you know what I mean? Like a zap off ... like of zap off of positivity and ability. And I just really enjoyed that.Brad Crowell  Think he was giving it. (Lesley: Yeah.) Yeah.Lesley Logan  So anyways, if you're listening to this in real time, we're in Nashville. (BradL In Nashville.) Yeah, we're hanging out with episode, I can't think of the number but I think it was in the 40s, Lauren Zoeller. Lauren Zoeller. (Brad: Zoeller) Yeah. Lauren Zoeller. We're hanging out her house. And we're hanging out a bunch of, actually, I think are gonna I think we're in meetings with a bunch of people who've been on the pod.Brad Crowell  Yeah. Also Amber Shaw.Lesley Logan  I know. I know. I hope she's there.Brad Crowell  Maybe Tori. (Lesley: I think so.) We're going to a coaching weekend. (Lesley: Yeah.) We're actually going to bump into a bunch of people ...Lesley Logan  Bunch of are friends. (Brad: Yeah.) That's how we hang out. We're like, (Brad: We're friends.) we're like ...Brad Crowell  slash let's all learn together.Lesley Logan  Let's all learn together. It's a write off, we get to hang out and write it off. (Lesley laughs) Oh my gosh, it's so fun. So anyways, we come home. And we literally kick off our seventh Agency Mini, which is our seven day coaching program, which you've been listening to this show. You've heard us talk about it. And you have the final moments if we have spots left to sign up right now. And if there are no spots left to get on the waitlist for the next one. If you're like, I'll just wait for the next one, then you shouldn't you shouldn't try to get into this one because ...Brad Crowell  You should totally try to get into this one. This one's going to be amazing. We are going to have a couple of guest coach appearances.Lesley Logan  Yeah, we are we are.Brad Crowell  ... You'll have to be there.Lesley Logan  Yeah, I know some of them are going to be total surprises for even our Agency members. (Brad: Yeah.) Which is really exciting who we have some of our Agency members on Profitable, hanging out instead of Mini to support everybody. But we only offer this twice a year. So if you wait to the next time, you're literally holding your business back for months of generating income and getting support and maybe not wasting time on things that won't work and actually like dial in things that well. So that's happening. And then we go to Chicago (Brad: Yeah.) for Pilates on tour. (Brad: That's gonna be fun.) And Erika Quest and I are teaching a workshop together. And then you have a table with our flashcards and our book.Brad Crowell  Yeah, come hang with Brad at the table.Lesley Logan  And then we come home on our seventh year wedding anniversary on the day. And then we have 48 hours to get ready for a bunch of people to be at our house (Brad: Yeah.) for our business retreat. (Brad: Yeah.) So woah! I'm so excited for water, sleep, my higher dose mad, my red light therapy and our incredible team who helps us get all of this done so that we can support all these people because we frickin love doing it.Brad Crowell  Absolutely, I can't I really can't wait to see everyone not only hanging out in Nashville, but actually getting to meet a bunch of people in the Pilates world in Chicago. And then of course, diving diving deep into your businesses for those of you who are joining us here in Las Vegas for the business retreat. (Lesley: Yeah.) So I can't wait.Lesley Logan  I was like dipping. What are we dipping?Brad Crowell  Yeah. We are dipping. If you want ... more information about Agency Mini, just go to profitablepilates.com/miniLesley Logan  Yeah, and Pilates on tour is on the Balanced Body site. And you you can't miss it. Like it's gonna be amazing. It's the first in person event they've had since the last time I was with them, which was in October 2018. So wow! (Brad: Yeah.) Holy frickin moly. (Brad: in a minute) Here we go in a minute. I'm gonna need a question from the audience, Brad.Brad Crowell  Yeah. So we got a question from someone asking, "Are you planning to drive around the country again this winter?" And the answer is, yes.Lesley Logan  Yes. We're still, at this moment of recording, we are still working on it. But we did see it, we did get to talk to Joel.Brad Crowell  We did. I think that this kind of goes hand in glove with our tours that we have been doing the last handful of years. You know, skipping COVID year of course, but I think this this year, we have a different timeline. We have to be back in Vegas for January one for a wedding.Lesley Logan  For actually December 31. (Brad: Oh, December 31 for a wedding.) Yeah, I know. So we are working on planning out the route. And we're kind of thinking we'll leave a little earlier and do the tour before the holiday.Brad Crowell  Yeah. It'll probably all happen first. And then we'll hang (Lesley: We haven't ...) with family before turning around and come to Vegas.Lesley Logan  We have not ... Yeah. We have not picked all the cities yet. We're still working that out. And so you can throw your city in. (Brad: Yeah.) You absolutely can throw your city and I will say ...Brad Crowell  It's gonna be a different route this year than normal because we don't have the luxury. I was really hoping to get up into the Northeast. Get up into Canada even but I'm not sure we're gonna pull it off this year.Lesley Logan  He always has hopes it will dry and (Brad: ... really we're going Canada.) no winter time. I know. But I don't want to go, why would we drive into Toronto in the winter? (Brad: Because we're going to be on that side of the world.) To my Torontonians I fucking love you. I just don't like, tell Brad if like summer driving into Toronto is a better idea. (Brad: I know it is. I've been there.) Yeah. (Brad: Yes.) I have not. But anyways, so we you can throw your city out there. Typically, we have host studios. They're usually affiliates of OPC. And they basically help us promote it in the area. We pop in, we do a workout, we have a little hang. And then Brad and I give the dogs walk and get back on the road. But we're super excited to get that planned. And so yeah, we the answer is yes. I know the answer before is like I don't know. But the answer is now, yes. And I'm excited to, I'm excited to do like just it's like a one legged tour. It's like a tour on one end. (Brad: We're gonna hop.) Yeah, we're gonna hop hop hop. But yeah, it's, but we're very excited to be able to attend a wedding. So we're trying to make that work, which just means traveling back from Philly to Las Vegas in literally four days.Brad Crowell  We've done it and we've done it faster.Lesley Logan  We've done it faster. So I think it's possible. (Brad: It's possible.) Yeah, it's possible. Okay. So yeah, you can just hit up opc.me/chat if you want to throw your city and there and then our team will figure out like if whether if you're on a route that allows us to get from, I wouldn't say a to b but it's literally LV to PA and, and back. So and you would be surprised what's on the route because Atlanta is on that route. We are working out (Brad: Oh, yeah.) Atlanta. We talked to Joel as I mentioned from Vitality Method. So we'll see you there.Brad Crowell  Looking forward to that. Okay, now let's talk about Dr. Victor Manzo, transitioning from a practicing Pediatric Chiropractor meaning kids. Right? I didn't know. (Lesley and Brad laughs)Lesley Logan  The way you said that was like as if the word Pediatric is is new.Brad Crowell  It is like I didn't know Chiropractors worked on kids.Lesley Logan  Brian, our Chiropractor (Brad: I know Brian does) works on kids. He has pictures of kids.Brad Crowell  Before I met Brian, I didn't know that was a thing. So yes, I didn't realize that Chiropractors could do that. Anyway, moving right along. A practicing Pediatric Chiropractor too, a spiritual business mindset coach. Dr. Vic is on a mission to influence and help people become aware of their limiting beliefs, their habits, standards, and the stories they tell themselves. Then he shares his insights to help them reframe and change their beliefs to support life they love. Dr. Vic is also the creator and owner of The Mindful Experiment Podcast and the author of three books that are seeking to assist people in their everyday spiritual lives.Lesley Logan  And also, just so you know, Manzo is like the American way and Manzo is the Italian way. So if you if you can say either, apparently, but if you wanted a little education in languages. (Brad: Good to know.) Yeah. (Brad: Dr. Victor Manzo.) Yeah.Brad Crowell  But you have to say it with a British accent.Lesley Logan  I know. I'm saying, I don't think that's how it sounds either. But we're just gonna keep going. I'm just gonna let that roll. Okay, one thing I love that he said was our job is to stay at a high vibration. And I think we can all agree that that is a very positive and helpful thing. And I think the next question is like, "Okay, but how do we do this?" Because you can no longer go, "Yes, I need to stay in high vibration" and then boom, you're in a low vibration state and it's like, "Oh, I'm trying to stay in a high vibration."Brad Crowell  I don't even know what a high vibration state means.Lesley Logan  Okay. Well, that's, that's an even better question. So I would say you are in a high vibration. There's a flow state, you know, when like, things come easy to you when you're at work, and you just like, just get a ton of stuff done. You said this before, like, "I got a ton of stuff done."Brad Crowell  Oh, yeah. (Lesley: Yeah.) I always looked forward to that. Like I really, and it was like, for me, it was like, "Don't ever talk to me, don't bother me. I mean, I'm in the zone."Lesley Logan  Yeah. But it's, you often don't know that you don't want anyone talk to you because you're until you're in the zone, you (Brad: Yeah.) don't go, "Don't talk to me, I'm in the zone." (Brad laughs) That would not be a high vibration. You are, you like start to get in this flow state and you start to and everything comes a little easier for you. And so when you're in that, that's like you're trying to tap into that. And that state and that's not easy. And you cannot be there if you're like, "Oh, fuck this, this thing is not working." Ah that you like, though, when you get when you're really snappy at little things, you are in a low vibration. So just just a quick thing if you are like if somebody bumps into on the street, or someone cuts you off while you're driving, there's your sign. You're not a high vibration. But if you are like driving, and someone ...Brad Crowell  Well, it depends on how you react to them cutting you off. You don't have any control over them cutting him off, but how you react to them. (Lesley: Correct.) Yeah.Lesley Logan  Yeah. So anyways, you don't have a buffer on your cars like this a high vibration car, park up. (Lesley laughs) Anyways, so the idea is like, we have to our job is to try to stay at the high vibration. Now that requires work. But that's what job is, that's what a job is. It's also an exercise. And you're going to have times where it's easier to stay the high vibration and times when it's harder. And you you maybe can't stay in there as long because you tap out sooner. But you know what it's up, the more you can, he said anchoring will help you find a high vibration moment in your life. So anchoring is he's, a lot of times people use this, like anchor into something. So you can think back to a time this what do you exit, think back to a time when you it was easy for you to do that. Like we just was like, oh, you know, when you say you're at work, and you do it like this. So you you think about what that is? And then you can also think about what happened before that, that allowed that flow state to happen or how did you set that up, so becomes really easy for you. So if there was a time when you like, were really confident or really positive in your life, it was a really happy moment, you can go and go into meditation, you can think about that moment. And then you can go, you can actually feel it in your body. Like if I asked you to feel about a time right now, everybody think back to the time when you were like, feeling the most positive, like, on top of the world. Like you just felt like, "Oh my God, this is the most amazing, I never want to stop." Sometimes for me, it's on the top of a hike in Hawaii, like when you're there and like you're like, "Wow, I just feel so like, literally in inside myself in the most positive and like, I never want this to end. What did that feel like? What does it sound like? Like, what does it taste like?"Brad Crowell  Yeah, a lot of times it's an achievement or a win that you've, you know, just add in your life and whether that was a something that you've been, you know, chasing for a very long time or something that just happened, you know, for you remember how you felt in that moment. You know, there's a he describes it later on in the pod as like the moment of bliss or joy, you know exuberance, happiness. And you know, that I think that he, he kept saying something throughout it that was a little bit woo for me, he's like, you gotta like, you know, be in the vibe. And it's funny because I use the word vibe, but like I am, what was really surprising to me is that he's a doctor who went into being a spiritual guide, which is kind of the opposite of what I expect most people to do, because they're trying to prove something right and so they go and they really get into like science and medicine and like proof, and tangible, and logic and like he is all the foundation of that doctoral, you know, logic and then he's actually applying it into the spiritual, the the attaining a spiritual life (Lesley: Yeah.) and, and when he's talking about this vibe, he said he said that the he said basically when you're operating when you are attaining achieving in a higher vibe, you are going to have a better life. (Lesley: Yeah.) And you're going to achieve more things. Life is going to work for you more often, (Lesley: People want to be around you.) people want to be around you. Yeah, he talks about that, like being in a room around someone who is operating at a higher vibe, you want to just be in their presence. And you know, and then, and then when you two were talking about like, well, how do you, how do you identify the higher vibe? That's what he's talking about anchoring. Remembering a moment where you've had a crazy celebration in your life or something really amazing. And he talks about his daughter, or if it is not his his child just being born six weeks ago or whatever. And in that moment of joy that he felt, then is something that that's an anchor, that's something he can be like, "Okay, cool."Lesley Logan  Yeah. Yeah, I think like, so find your anchor. And then, and then if you are ever out, if you're ever feeling like, "Wow, I'm just like losing it every few minutes, right now, today is not a great day." Take five seconds to like, go back to that moment, like maybe have to write on a post it notes. So you just it's easily I know, I can't think of good things when it's a bad thing. So I like have it somewhere where you can easily access it. (Brad: Yeah.) And and then go try to anchor into that and see if you can tap into that high vibration. I know for me, I'll turn on my red light therapy, and I'll sit and play this one little mantra meditation takes like five minutes. And it's like, all these positive mantras. And I'm like, "I feel so good when it's over." So you know (Brad: Well ...) your thoughts, the tools out there.Brad Crowell  I liked that you said that, because he was talking about forcing it, you know, and taking a pause, and allowing that to be effectively like a reset button, you know, and he was, there was actually a lot of conversation about forcing it. And I know, I know that I do that. Or I'm like, "I have to get this done. I only have another hour to get this done." And I'm like ehhh. Right. And and like to be honest, it's generally not my best work.Lesley Logan  Or it takes longer if you just take in 15 minutes to like, go rest, go reset, you (Brad: Yeah.) might come back and get it done faster. And you won't, it'll be better work.Brad Crowell  Yeah. (Lesley: Yeah.) And that, you know, it can be as simple meditation as it were, where you are effectively stepping back from something that might be frustrating you and and reflecting back to what your your anchor is, where you can, "Okay, how do I reframe where I'm at right now? How do I get back into joy?" Right. Before I then go get back into this project that I have to get done. (Lesley: Yeah.) So yeah, that's really interesting. And what I really loved about that is a) I felt there was a very practical approach, but also to, he said, "Hey, look, you know, give yourself a break here." This is something that's a habit you have to create, you know, you can conceptualize it right now. But in the moment, you may forget. And so you know, it's okay. This something you need to practice.Lesley Logan  Yeah. Yeah, I mean, you can't get in like, I think it's so weird that we want to get everything right the first time. I say this with Agency members, like we teach them something, and then they get frustrated, like, "I can't do it." It's like, "We'll you just learned it, like five seconds ago." Once you don't, like you don't like you can get it conceptually, but then you got to do it. And you're like, "Ah, it's a great." Because you just learned it. You just learned you have to do it again. And then you have to learn it from a different angle. And then you have to like put into your own words. So you can't you have to just be, you have to just be kind to yourself. And (Brad: Yeah.) like when you are being hard on yourself about how you're not good enough. The first time you do something you are that's just here's your sign. Not a high vibration. I feel like Jeff Foxworthy, "Here's your sign, you are in low vibration."Brad Crowell  All right, so finally, let's talk about those BE IT action items. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Dr. Vic, Victor Manzo? (Lesley: Yeah.) He had, he kind of he repeated himself a handful of times throughout the thing, the whole interview so I thought that was great because it made it he's got like a very clear path on how to stay in that high vibration. And so right out of the gate, he said, "You need to have or create your vision." Okay, and that vision for, the vision is for your life. You know, do you see yourself staying where you are doing the thing you're doing? Is that something you love and you're already doing that thing? Or are you not where you want to be? Where do you want to be? And he suggested to make that like an anchor or sorry to play that like a movie in your head and associate it with those vibes from the anchor that we already talked about earlier. Right? So you know, if you are like, I'm going to get that promotion at work, you know, and so "see" yourself getting the promotion at work. I mean, you hear this actually, from football players all the time, like, see yourself scoring the goal, see yourself catching the ball, see yourself getting past the opponent, whatever, you know. And then he talked about relating that vision that you're creating with the emotions, the joy from that moment that you're anchored.Lesley Logan  You know, they've actually done studies where they had people think about working out like literally put their mindset into like, actually, like lifting weights in their mind. And then they had people workout, but not think about it. And then they had people do both. And the people who worked out and people thought about working out had the same strength scores.Brad Crowell  I did not know that.Lesley Logan  Yeah, like, yeah, it's because our mind is so powerful. (Brad: Amazing.) And like when I was talking with Jay, Jay Grimes, he's my Pilates mentor. He, I told him this, and he's like, "Oh, yeah." He's like, "I used to get so tired after teaching two hours, because my body was like, doing the workout with them." Like, the muscle, like, he's like, "I wasn't rounding forward, I was just standing there. But like, my muscles, were doing the things." And I because you're like, (Brad: So, I mean ...) feeling it, you know. And so even ...Brad Crowell  No wonder teaching can be very draining.Lesley Logan  It can be and then people bring their own weird emotions too. And then client's bring theirs.Brad Crowell  They are bringing those low vibrations.Lesley Logan  Yeah. (Brad: Yeah.) But he, but he talks about, like, you know, even he says, now he's like, "Mate, I want to, I want to, like, I want to feel, I want to feel your mood while exercising. Like, I, he can't do it now. So I want to feel for you, you know, so you gotta do that way." (Brad: Sure.) So I think you have it, I love what his point was. And I think like, it's not, I don't think we give ourselves enough time to sit still. And like picture the thing that we want. And like, create that, like, see the vision. (Brad: Yeah.) And even if you're not a visual person, then write it frickin down.Brad Crowell  Yeah, he did talk about that. He said, a lot of people, maybe they can't, like, create, like a movie in their head, but they can write it down and then and they create the story that way. (Lesley: Yeah.) Yeah, totally.Lesley Logan  So, I really loved um, become aware and use it for that as a compass for the work that you want to achieve. So like he was talking about vibe and paid attention and the excitement gave a whole demonstration about like, rub your hands. Do you ever remember? I remember being a kid in a school bus and like, we would like put our hands like, do you ever do this? Where you like put your hand like close to their hands? You could do with me. Do with me. Give me your hand. (Brad: Okay.) And like you would you would like get close with your hand and (Brad: Oh, yeah.) they got further away. (Brad: I feel the heat.) And you can, yeah, you feel that, you can feel energy. (Brad: Yeah.) Yeah. So we've ...Brad Crowell  He actually talked about taking your hands and rubbing them together. (Lesley: Yeah.) And then holding them slightly apart and you can feel you know that energy between them.Lesley Logan  I'm vibing so high. I didn't even need to do that. You felt it anyway. (Brad and Lesley laugh) But anyways, like he gave like a very kinesthetic exercise you could do to feel that vibe. And you can also just the I think it's really interesting like awareness is so key. And we even talked with like Lena Franklin, she's like, once you're aware you're enlightened. But when you can actually have that feeling of like when you become aware what you're wanting and the vibe you want to have. It is so much easier to use that as a compass and know how far off you are. I'm turning because I'm like, and then like how, like a compass. Right. You can come back to it.Brad Crowell  Yeah, yeah. Sorry, I think I feel like we're missing a step to connect those dots here. So the first what he's talking about is we operate better when we are in a high vibration. Right. But we're not always in a high vibration. (Lesley: No.) Right. And so ...Lesley Logan  You can change, you can be in high vibration in the morning and low by an hour later. Like you can it's like you're a human.Brad Crowell  So the, so we operate better at a high vibration, and we're not always operating in a high vibration. Right. So then we have, how do you know what a high vibration is? That's where the anchoring is. Right? And then we have going out and doing life. And in you then once you understand, once you begin to associate high vibration, and identity be able to identify that internally throughout your day, which is where the practice part comes in. Then when you're trying something new. You can start to feel, "Am I in the right place? You know for this"? And you can start to identify like, "this thing might not be for me." You know and this other thing, "Oh yeah, this is totally for me." Because you're starting to to associate like you start to identify, "Oh, yeah, this, this makes me feel good."That's why I feel like it's a compass. Right? Because when you identify, "This is my this is my anchor. This is my high vibration." Right. And you're doing something that is like 100% not making you connect with that vibration, you can start to say, "Well, maybe maybe I don't want to go be, this isn't my thing."Lesley Logan  I also just want to like, counterpoint, which I know I talked about, we love what you said. But I think with that description, it's very easy for someone to try something new feel like their compass is off. And it's actually the people that they did the new thing with, and it's not the new thing. For example, I really loved that lyric class that I did. I thought the teacher was great. I had the best time, it was amazing. I went back, and my compass was like, "This is off. This is not fun." I left feeling worse than when I came. And then I didn't go back. And actually, the reality was, is just the people that I was with for that moment, made the compass off (Brad: Interesting.) not the thing. So I really think that people there's like ...Brad Crowell  So it's almost like something that we can bring. It's something we bring to a situation. And it's also something that we can be paying attention to.Lesley Logan  Yeah, I mean, let's just think about like, you and I used to go on hikes. We love hikes. (Brad: Yeah.) And there's a few hikes in there that I remember going, "Fuck this shit. When was this fucking hike over?" Because the people brought it the low vibration. The people took the compass the wrong way. And so I think it's like, we have to be really mindful of like, is it the activity or is or the location or is it the person? Because there are some things I frickin love doing that I would never do it some people. And so I think we can be a little quick to go, "My compass is off. This isn't for me," when actually, it that's the thing. It's just the wrong. Like, can you imagine if your first date experience blew up and was the worst thing ever? Like, I'm never dating again? No, it was the wrong date. Right? Like, or your first job was like, the most awful experience? Like I'm never working again.Brad Crowell  Yeah but I think that's exactly right. When you know that something is your high vibration. Right? For like, for example, that moment of joy, whatever that is. And then you go on a date, and you're like, "This did not bring me joy. This is nowhere where the close to where I want to feel (Lesley: Right.) to be." Then you know, then you can say, "All right, cool." You know?Lesley Logan  Yeah, but that's my point. You know, it's that person, not the dating, not the activity. You went on another date with somebody else. (Brad: Yeah.) Yeah. I think we're saying the same thing. I'm just making sure people ... (Brad: It's not always about people tho.) No, it can also be the nice amazing people on the worst activity. I think that's, I think we need to compasses. (Brad: Yeah.) Are there like compasses with like a node? A weather pattern. I don't know. Like, I feel like there's like a dewpoint that goes along. I don't know, there's just has to be another layer. Because I really, I'm a little wor... I'm a little concerned that some people will go, "Oh, my compass is off. I didn't like this thing," when maybe it's not the thing. It's like, the place where the thing was. The person where the thing was. I'm not trying to tell people to convince themselves to do something different. But I'm just a little worried that people might give up on the first try of some things based on this one particular example.Brad Crowell  Here's what I think we're gonna do. I think this is a really interesting conversation. I, we're gonna send this to Dr. Victor Manzo. And we're gonna get his input. (Lesley laughs) But in the meantime, (Lesley: Because I really love it.) in the meantime, we want your input. (Lesley: Yeah.) Where do you stand here? Is this something that you're applying or something that you're putting yourself in a situation and then feeling? Right? Or are you applying it to a situation because you're reframing your mind?Lesley Logan  Yeah, I just, I just want to I just want to make sure that we're not giving pe... like giving people, I totally agree with what he said, when I was on the podcast. What I'm a little concerned with, with just the way we're talking about it, is that we're making it so that it's, it might be too easy to write off something that just might there might be the wrong ingredient. It's like a food. It's like, if you like I like there's Latkes right, and there's all these different types of flavors. And there's a couple that I would never ever eat and there was a few that you put some apple sauce on it and fuck yeah, I want that. So I'm just I'm just trying to say like, I'm a little concerned that people might write something off that's right for them, but it was in the wrong place, people or thing.Brad Crowell  Yeah, we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna talk to doc. (Lesley laughs) And we're gonna leave us a voicemail. (Lesley: Yeah.) And put it into one of the recaps coming up.Lesley Logan  Yes. Okay, (Brad: Yeah.) sounds good. (Brad: I love it.) Okay, I'm Lesley Logan.Brad Crowell  And I'm Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan  Thank you so much for joining us today. We're so grateful you're here. How are you going to use these tips in your life? Let us know by sending us a DM to the pod. And or you can you can put a comment on the YouTube. (Brad: Yeah.) Um, we don't have a phone number for you to call in and leave a voicemail but you can leave a voice message on on the Instagram. So, I sound like an eighty year old, you can do on the Facebook. (Brad: You can do on the w w's) (Lesley laughs) You can do on the emails. (Brad laughs) Anyways, thank you so much and until next time, Be It Till You See It.Brad Crowell  Bye for now.Lesley Logan  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It podcast. 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Today we introduce the Pilates Elders, the first generation of Pilates teachers and students of Joseph Pilates himself. I share mini bios of the Elders, what I know about them from reading biographies, taking classes with second generation teachers, and meeting Elders in person. Tune in!I want to hear from you! Share your thoughts and follow the podcast on Instagram and Facebook @pilatesstudentsmanual. Full show notes, episode transcription, and chapter markers can be found on the podcast website here: https://bit.ly/PilatesStudentsManual. Be sure to subscribe to the podcast for updates, and rate and review wherever you listen!  Episodes now available on YouTube: *https://bit.ly/YouTubePSM*Email pilatesstudentsmanual@oliviabioni.com with your feedback.Show Notes:Amazing books about the elders:Cathy Strack's biography of Romana, Love All AroundCarola Trier's biography by Reiner Grootenhuis Ron Fletcher's Every Body Is Beautiful John Steel's Caged LionArticles I found online:Pilates history https://www.pilates.com/pilates/origins/Jay Grimes' studio https://www.vintagepilates.com/Mary Bowen's studio https://pilates-marybowen.com/Lolita San Miguel's mentorship program http://www.lolitapilates.com/mentor-program/Also, Eve Gentry died in 1994. I don't know why I said 1944 in the episode.   Support the podcast:    Visit *links.oliviabioni.com/affiliates* and take advantage of some sweet deals on products I use and enjoy with my affiliate links!  Episode Music:This episode uses NCS music in compliance with https://ncs.io/usage-policyTrack: Syn Cole - Gizmo [NCS Release]Music provided by NoCopyrightSounds.Watch: https://youtu.be/pZzSq8WfsKoFree Download / Stream: http://ncs.io/GizmoTrack: Syn Cole - Feel Good [NCS Release]Music provided by NoCopyrightSounds.Watch: https://youtu.be/q1ULJ92aldEFree Download / Stream: http://ncs.io/feelgoodSupport the show

How much of your day is spent scheduling and just trying to fit everything into the day? LL and Brad share how they are managing their time as business owners and how to infuse gratitude into your journey. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co . And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:How to schedule your day as a business ownerWhen it's time for an assistant The journey is not a wasteNaming each voice in your head to addressSay thank you for each experience Episode References/Links:Ethan Kross: Chatter The Voice in Our Head, Why It Matters, and How to Harness ItFull Body in 15 registration  If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox.ResourcesWatch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable PilatesSocial MediaInstagramFacebookLinkedInEpisode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:01  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast, where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guests will bring Bold, Executable, Intrinsic and Targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Brad Crowell 0:46  All right, all right, all right. Welcome back!Lesley Logan 0:49  To the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co host in life, Brad and I are going to dig into this gracious conversation with Kellee Forkenbrock. U'm, sorry everyone Brad has has given me a lot of hand signals. It's like a fucking facement coach.Brad Crowell 1:03  ... a second ago you weren't sitting off to the left of the mic. You were actually on the mic. So now ....Lesley Logan 1:08  We're gonna keep all this in. (Brad: Yeah, we're keeping it. We're keeping it.) Not like literally he looks like either like an airplane person like trying to lead the plane in or ...Brad Crowell 1:16  If you're watching on YouTube, I'm really good at hiding. So my arm goes off to the side of the camera. And then I'm like, I'm signaling from the side.Lesley Logan 1:24  By the way it means my eyes go all the way over to the third baseman (Brad: It's true.) to the right and then I have to assume (Brad: It's true.) "What is he pointing at?" (Brad: Yeah, it's usually ...) Is there something in my hair? (Brad: No.) Is there something on my teeth? (Brad: No.) Anyways, that's ... (Brad: You're beautiful.) Thank you. Thank, you know what? (Brad: Winning, right here.) Well, actually, I'm already using Kellee's BE IT action item. (Brad: I love it.) So, Kellee Forkenbrock in our last episode, if you haven't yet listened to her interview, what are you doing? Go listen.Brad Crowell 1:51  What are you doing?Lesley Logan 1:52  Seriously? I can't wait to drive through Iowa because Kellee, Rachel, Sandy BrownBrad Crowell 1:57  It's gonna be a good hang. I'm looking forward to it.Lesley Logan 1:59  Actually, Jenn Voss was there now. Frickin, we're gonna have the best hangout session. (Brad: Yeah, it's gonna be good.) And I've always wanted to know a librarian and I know your cousin is one but (Brad: Yeah) she's sorry to your cousin. I think she's my favorite. So, (Brad and Lesley laughs) if you haven't ...Brad Crowell 2:15  Sorry, you also don't know my cousin very well, so fair enough.Lesley Logan 2:18  I know. Not yet. Not yet. We're gonna we... it's only Christmas time when I see her. So, um, if you haven't yet listen to that ... what are you doing? Go back. Listen to that one. You can listen after this one. You can hit pause on this one. Whatever you want to do. But anyways, you gotta listen to Kellee because she is amazing.Brad Crowell 2:33  She's pretty much fire.Lesley Logan 2:35  She's fire. (Brad: That's true.) Also, she has two names.Brad Crowell 2:39  She does have two names, and you're gonna have to figure out why she has two names (Lesley: Y'all listen to the episode.) when you listen to the episode. (Lesley: Yeah) (Brad laughs)Lesley Logan 2:45  Okay. So, at the time you're listening this Brad and I are in Colorado. (Brad: Oh, yeah.) Kicking it in Denver. (Brad: Yeah) We're hanging out with some of our podcast guests like Michael (Brad: Yeah, where we at.) Unbroken and we are at Momentum Fest which is (Brad: We are at Momentum Fest.) Jessica Valant, who was one of our podcast guests. She is the founder of Momentum Fest and we're so so friggin excited to be there. (Brad: Yeah.) So it's ...Brad Crowell 3:09  By the way, it's super fun and it's not Pila... not necessarily only Pilates. (Lesley: It is movements.) It's movement. (Lesley: Yeah) So it's a ton of fun, yoga, barre, dance, Pilates, all the things (Lesley: There's meditation and everything.) Yeah, (Lesley: Yeah) it is, it's an absolute blast. (Lesley: and us. and we're there.) Yeah. And then and then I hang out at the merch booth the whole time. (Lesley: Yeah.) Lesley teaches and she ... (Lesley: I hang out with like John Steele.) She corrals John Steele. (Lesley: We gonna talked to John Steele one day.) Oh, we should have him on the pod.Lesley Logan 3:38  I mean, we've already had him on our (Brad: We had.) if you're an OPC member you actually can see the coolest freakin interview. (Brad: It's an incredible.) Not even what's on my notes to talk about but (Brad: No, not at all.) OPC members have access to this incredible interview we did with John Steele. And we surprise John Steele with Jay Grimes which if you're not a Pilates teacher, you're like, oh ... (Brad: Who are these people? Yeah, doesn't mean anything.) words they don't know. But Joseph Pilates is a man and John Steele, (Brad: It's a good place to start.) it's like pseudo adopted son and he wrote a book and Brad's parents also picked up the book because I left it downstairs one year and I promptly decided to hide it when I got to the part where it just says Pilates teaches people have better sex. And I was like, "Let's just not let your parents get to that page." Anyways, Jay Grimes also does a Pilates and Jay always admired John. And so I had to surprise John ...Brad Crowell 4:27  It was an incredible opportunity (Lesley: Yeah) because we know Jay really well. Jay is Lesley's teacher. So having John Steele on, we already knew, because we had a, we had a dinner with Jay, he told us all about this book. We have to read it and he told us all about how much he admired John. And then when we were at Momentum Fest a year ago, we had a booth across from John (Lesley: Yeah) and I got a chance to hang with him all weekend. (Lesley: John has ...) Lesley, hung with him all weekend.Lesley Logan 4:54  John has a pod hat. John is one of the first people to own (Brad: Yes, he has a Be It pod hat.) the Perfect is Boring trucker hat. (Brad: Yeah) Because an 80 something year old man with a wiry curly hair, (Brad: Yeah) wearing the trucker hat and fuckin' kelly green.Brad Crowell 5:09  Pretty cool. Pretty cool. (Lesley: Pretty cool.) Pretty cool. (Lesley: Anyways ...) Anyway, so we surprise John with Jay and it was lovely. So if you're an OPC member, you get to see that (Lesley: Yeah) is part of the Facebook group. So anyway, moving right along ...Lesley Logan 5:21  Really quickly, just so you all know, speaking of Pilates, if the idea of better sex, or just the fact that Joseph Pilates as a real human being and other people followed him it has you intrigued or you are just a mat lover in general, the Full Body in 15 doors are open. (Brad: Yes) The link is in the show notes. I'll tell you it's onlinepilates.classes.com/, no, maybe it's not that, it's probably fullbodyin15.com. Brad, what is it? We're gonna edit this out? If we don't know... (Brad: It's fullbodyin15.com) Great. Go there fullbodyin15.com (Brad: Yeah) and the doors are open.Brad Crowell 5:55  Yeah. So base... basically, just for those of you who might not know Full Body in 15 is for newbies, beginners, people who are not like, you know that anyone who anyone is welcome to join us. If you've been doing Pilates forever. You're (Lesley: Yeah) welcome to join us for it. (Lesley: Yeah) But this is a beginner's program for people who maybe they're runners or weightlifters or you know, whatever yogiLesley Logan 6:19  If you've heard that you should try out Pilates but you've not (Brad: Right.) it's for dancers, right? It's not. I'm not one. It is the best thing to add to anything you already love. (Brad: Yes) And it is going to, we're teaching you how to do a full body workout in 15 minutes. (Brad: Yep) We actually teach you how to be the teacher of your own body. It's super great. If you are ...Brad Crowell 6:39  It's actually really great because (Lesley: Brad did it.) I'm such a nerd about like, technique, and, you know, like structure and all that kind of stuff. And in this in this week long program, there's three workshops there, you know, roughly 90 minutes and Lesley goes through the 'why' of the exercise is. (Lesley: Yeah) And also the 'how', the why and the how. (Lesley: The what, the why.) Right. Yeah and who, I mean ...Lesley Logan 7:06  You know, the 'who is you' and the 'win' is when we're doing it. (Brad laughs) So here's the deal. It's the it's a free program. So let's just get to, it's a free program. (Brad: free program) And if you are a Pilates professional, and you're like, "Wait, I still kind of want to go." You can come. (Brad: Yeah, join us. No biggie.) you absolutely can come. We had a ton of teachers join us last time. But this is if you are a mat, if you like literally all you have is room, all you own is like space on the floor to lay down. This is for you. (Brad: Yeah) Go to fullbodyin15.com to sign up. Brad Crowell 7:31  And if you are a Pilates person and your significant other, you've been trying to convince them to do Pilates forever, and they don't listen to you. And you think that they might listen to somebody else. You can have them join us.Lesley Logan 7:44  I... Last time we had an osteo path.Brad Crowell 7:47  We had the husband (Lesley: of a Pilates teacher) who never does Pilates (Lesley: who is an osteopath) and he watched it and he's like, (Lesley: He did it.) oh, she understands the body. (Lesley: Yeah) This is really cool. (Lesley: Yeah) And that so that there's that.Lesley Logan 7:59  Yeah, I mean, I hope he recognizes that his wife also applies.. of Pilates instructor ...Brad Crowell 8:02  I'm sure she, I'm sure, I'm sure he was like, "Oh, okay." (Lesley laughs) Yeah.Lesley Logan 8:06  It's okay girl. (Brad: I hope so.) My husband also only does it when we have a reteat or so. (Brad: Busted) ... thrown under Brad. Okay. Do we have an audience questions this week?Brad Crowell 8:15  We do, we do. We totally do. If the audience question is, what is that sound in the background? (Lesley: That's Bayon.) That's our Bayon.Lesley Logan 8:23  He's looking at me. (Brad: Yes) It's too early.Brad Crowell 8:25  Yeah, (Lesley: it's too ...) it's way too early buddy. (Lesley: too early for our walk) Like hours hours too early.Lesley Logan 8:29  No, the winter really screws (Brad: Yeah) up because I think he gets his clock wrong. (Brad: Yeah) Anyway,Brad Crowell 8:33  All right, so the question we got from an audience member, and that was submitted through Instagram, on our Instagram channel was, "How is it possible that you get all the things done that you do? I feel so overwhelmed, and it's, it's like, I need more than one of me. Do you have an assistant? When do you know if you need an assistant?"Lesley Logan 8:56  Yeah. So okay, first of all, thank you.Brad Crowell 9:00  There's a lot of questions all in one, I think it was great. (Lesley: Yeah) Thanks for that.Lesley Logan 9:03  So I you know what? I literally get how do you get everything done in my DMs on a regular basis. And if you were like, "I (Brad: Yeah) wanted to ask you that too." You're gonna keep asking, I'm gonna send you this episode. So here's, here's the deal. In the past when it was just myself and myself, and I paid Brad's company to help. I feel you, like I frickin fill you and I was so scared. I was so scared to hire. I didn't think I could afford it. I didn't think my business was big enough. I don't know who I thought assistants were for. But a lot of the stuff we actually, like a scheduling tool was like hugely essential to getting things done because you'd be surprised what technology can do if they can work like a human.Brad Crowell 9:51  Let me just start, let me just start over (Lesley: Okay) because when we met, you were texting all of your clients, (Lesley: I was.) every time, every weekLesley Logan 9:58  So you are doing that, you're not alone, I too texted. I had over six figure teaching business 20 hours a week. (Brad: And she was texting all of her clients.) Texting clients, (Brad: and ...) confiming them through text. I never had a day off because they were texting me on my day off to reschedule.Brad Crowell 10:12  On Sunday, Saturday, it didn't matter. It was like she was always texting people to book them. And then she had this hilarious like frenzy. She was like, "Hey, Thursday at three just opened up who wants it?" And then like, ...Lesley Logan 10:25  Yeah, and that was the whole (Brad: you know) thing (Brad: but) and that was annoying. And then I had a client, who was a 6am client, and he would text me at 5:45 in the morning, going, "I'm hungover. I'm not coming in." I'm like, fuckin' jerk." Because like, so I had to have a talk with him. I was like, "You, if you are drinking the night before, and you do not cancel me at the bar. I'm charging you double. (Brad: Yeah) Do not text me 15 mins before because I'm already up. I'm already on my run." (Brad: I'm already there.) I could have slept in. (Brad: Right) So anyways, (Brad: totally) soBrad Crowell 10:54  Anyway, so the point ...Lesley Logan 10:56  The irony is, he's the guy, we got the scheduling tool from. (Lesley laughs)Brad Crowell 10:59  Yeah, that's true. So he had a scheduling tool business. And when we were talking about it, it was like, "What if all of this stuff was not something you're texting them. Instead, it was in a scheduling tool." And we worked with them for like two or three years to try to build a scheduling tool that was specifically for fitness people. And that was obviously a competitor to Mind Body. And because we were we were annoyed at it. And it was also really costly.Lesley Logan 11:30  That was too expensive. It wasn't like, I would rather have a real like human being assistant, if I was going to spend 200 bucks, I'd like you knowBrad Crowell 11:36  Yeah, I mean, you're you're managing 20 or 30 clients. Right? (Lesley: Yeah) And spent $200 a month to do that didn't seem to make sense. So anyway, we, we started working with this company to build an app that we could then turn around and offer to other Pilates instructors. And unfortunately, that didn't last the way that we had hoped. And after some time, the company actually decided not to build the fitness app. And so we're like, alright, and you know, it's fine. Our business changed, our business had changed a bit at that point. So we were (Lesley: Oh yeah ...) doing things a little differently, but (Lesley: and then the pandemic) and then the pandemic, and that obviously jacked it all up. But during the pandemic, the craziest thing happened, we were approached by another software company, and they said, "Hey, we love what you're doing with Profitable Pilates, you should check out what we're doing. We would love to customize our app to do what you want." (Lesley: Yeah) And I was like, "I'm sorry, say that last part again?" So we get a chance to sit down with them and to review what it is that they're doing. And then we got to add in fitness business coaching (Lesley: Yeah) to their (Lesley: Yeah) amazing scheduling tool. (Lesley: Yeah) And that was like I wish that had been there when we were looking for a (Lesley: Oh my God) scheduling tool years before. (Lesley: Yeah) and now this is the only scheduling tool out there that has a fitness business coaching built into the app, (Lesley: Yeah) you know, and it's all directed by you know Lesley, so the the anyway you you need this app because it's going to save you all of that time texting, all that time scheduling, you're going to automatically be charging people for late cancels, all this stuff (Lesley: Yeah) and what what circling back around (Lesley: to this question) to the question all of this stuff takes so much time.Lesley Logan 13:27  People don't realize like actually how much time it takes until they have to do it anymore. The the the the idea that when you go to check your text messages, your business is blended with your personal life is overwhelming, (Brad: That's actually stressful.) it's very stressful (Brad: Yeah) Brad is very big on this, we don't like he and I try really really hard not to even text each other about business. (Brad: Yeah) Like we it is like a last record like, "911. Holy get on here." (Brad: Yeah, texts each other. Right.) But um so I, if you are a fitness business instructor and you are overwhelmed, you need my scheduling tool, get in the show notes to get the 30 day free trial, (Brad: Yup) it will act as an assistant for you and it's like the fee once you start is 50 bucks a month. I promise you you cannot find an assistant for 50 bucks a month and so it's going to take over a lot of the busy work that you have to do especially the bookkeeping, the payroll, the the package can't count...Brad Crowell 14:18  Yeah, if you have a team there's a there's another level that does teams you can pay them all the things. Anyway (Lesley: anyway) but the the I think that the biggest thing is the mental space that you're going to get back (Lesley: Yeah) that you don't have to think about, "Oh, I have to remember to text this person because they canceled or no ..." Lesley Logan 14:34  And that's overwhelming like keeping all that in your head. (Brad: Rght) And you're gonna miss it and then you're gonna and then if you are overwhelmed right now, I know you, if you're listening to this podcast, you are a recovering or like still a perfectionist overachiever person. Hi, I see you. And you are going to get mad at yourself when you forgot to text someone in time to get them scheduled for something and you're like, "I lost that money." You need a scheduling tool. I promise (Brad: Yeah) you. I don't care how little you think your business It's going to allow you to feel legitimate, it's going to take your business away from your personal life and allow you to have space and grace. (Brad: Yeah) The other thing ... (Brad: ... oh, God.) Oh, I was just gonna go to the next question ...Brad Crowell 15:10  Oh, so if you if you have any interest in how Lesley schedules her actual calendar, we've got a free webinar on that that also will lead you to this our scheduling tool, the webinars called Ditching Busy and ditchingbusy.com. (Lesley: Yeah) If you want to go directly and skip the webinar and go directly to download the app, we will put that link in the show notes.Lesley Logan 15:33  Yeah. So the second question is, or the second two questions, "Do have an assistant when you need to know you need an assistant? (Brad: Yeah) So in full transparency, we all have assistants in our company, because while I have, like the tools for people to schedule with me, I actually need someone to help me schedule me for other things. (Brad: Sure) So um, so that could not be automated by a bot. Anyway. And so and Brad, same thing like he, he has, we have a scheduling tool for him. But we need someone to monitor that and also help him get things on the book.And protect my calendar, and all, you know, I double book myself sometimes all the things, you know.Yeah, so so in fact, we do have assistants, even our operations person has an assistant now, how do you know you need assistant? When like you have made sure you've automated everything you frickin can (Brad: Yeah) and you still can't get it all done. (Brad: Yeah) You need and you also need ...Brad Crowell 16:33  And when you when you feel like you're barely keeping your head above water, (Lesley: Yeah) and you've already put automations in place, because that's like, like, for example, we we had the first assistant that we ever hired. You know, she was with us for four years. (Lesley: Shout out to Lindsay.) Yeah, Lindsay, she's the most organized person we've ever met. She's amazing.Lesley Logan 16:34  Seriously, I know. And she's ... (Brad: but after ...) all of these things. And I'm like, "That girl's kid is going to be the most organized child."Brad Crowell 16:51  But after two years, she was like, "Hey," and she raised her hand, she's like, "By the way, I'm so maxed on my hours, I can't do anything else." And we went back and we looked at all the things we had asked her to do two years ago, and we're like, "Oh, you're still doing that." PS, we can automate that now. And so we took like, almost a third, maybe even half of what we had originally asked her to do. And we turned it into some kind of an automation, which freed up a bunch of time for her to be able to do the things that were actually benefiting us, (Lesley: Yeah) you know, so (Lesley: and so I know ...) automation is first and then you know, you need to then when you still like, "Wow, I just can't manage it all." That's when you would consider bringing on an assistant.Lesley Logan 17:37  And you would bring on an assistant and you didn't ask this but I'm gonna tell you whose strengths are your weaknesses. So you're not hiring another you. You're hiring someone who is like, I am so not detail oriented, literally came in with an idea to the team and I'm like, "Great, can you tell my assistant that idea and tell her to help me schedule it." And that's just (Brad: Right) because my strengths are not details, that is not and when I have to get in the details, it immediately pulls me into this like I get frickin negative to be honest I like get pissy, I like don't have an abundance mindset. So I have learned to delegate that off into people whose strengths are the details. So I love this question. Thank you (Brad: Great question.) for asking. (Brad: Yeah) Really amazing. If you have a question for us that you would like our opinion on, just DMs at the @be_it_pod. (Brad: And it can be anything.) Yeah, you can ask Brad about his cactuses. He loves it.Brad Crowell 18:27  I mean, we were just listening to Iliza (Lesley: Schlesinger) Schlesinger. And her the questions she gets are, (Lesley: Yeah) they make no sense to me why, anyway, ask them because how could she possibly ...Lesley Logan 18:40  You want to ask me about our wedding? You can ask us about our wedding.Brad Crowell 18:42  ... Be an expert on some of this stuff. But I love it. I think it's amazing. So you can ask us anything.Lesley Logan 18:47  You can ask us anything. It does not have to be business. It does not have any Pilates. (Brad: Nope) It can literally be like, like, you know, what's your favorite water bottle? Which I will tell you once they freakin pay me because I'm obsessed with this bottle everyone.Brad Crowell 18:58  Yeah, yeah, we've got a new company.Lesley Logan 18:59  I'm obsessed (Brad: They are pretty cool.) And the moment you hear me talking about it. Yes, I'm getting paid. And yes, you're gonna buy it. (Brad laughs) Anyways, I think we should talk about Kellee.Brad Crowell 19:08  Yeah, let's talk about Kellee. All right. Eliza David, (Lesley: whoa) when a pen is in hand, and Kellee Forkenbrock on the day to day, when she's working in the library. She's hanging with her kids or attending grad school. Kellee is an author, student, librarian and Mama whose life began at 40. Or so she says when she decided to get sober and started following her passions. (Lesley: Okay ...) So I'm just gonna say that again. She's got two names because one is her pen name. And the other is her real name. (Lesley: Yes. Okay.) Yeah. (Lesley: So) I know we just gave it away even though we told you at the beginning that you need to do listen the other episode but ...Lesley Logan 19:49  You know if they made it this far. Now they're in. You're in. (Brad: It's true. Now you're in.) First of all, also, I think if you buy her books on Amazon and like 99 cents and there's some free ones.Brad Crowell 19:56  Yeah. They're 99 cents, she's got one free and the others at 99 cents. (Lesley: Yeah and ...) So go support Eliza David. That's what with the z - e l i z aLesley Logan 20:04  And if you're not if you're like, "I don't do steamy romance." Let me just tell you after Dr. Celeste, and the, you know, the Fifty Shades of Grey, I think we all could use, like a little reprieve of like learning things and you know all this stuff like go let your mind wander. So, go go read her books. I think that'd be great. She's amazing. I'm gonna jump in with one thing I love that she said, which is the journey is not a waste and this one. (Brad: Yeah) I gotta be honest, I I'm a recovering perfectionist and overachiever. Notice it is inactive recovering. Because I freaking hate when things don't go the way I plan. And I want 100% start off with like, what a waste of time. That was such a waste of time or like we make a wrong turn like, "Oh my God, that was like 20 minutes." That is ...Brad Crowell 20:51  I know. I get frustrated too. When I when I mess up the directions.Lesley Logan 20:54  It just happened the other day. (Brad: Yeah) We were getting tile, you had to go to another appointment. (Brad: Yeah) And you missed the exit. And you're like, you're like so mad at yourself. And you made it to your appointment on time anyway.Brad Crowell 20:54  I did. I made it.Lesley Logan 20:54  Because Vegas has no traffic. Anyway, the point is, I'm still I believe this, I 100% like cosign subscribe, like the journey is not a waste, I will tattoo it somewhere on my body. And yet, I catch myself thinking it's a waste. And so I really love that she mentioned this because I needed the reminder, that means you all need the reminder. And ...Brad Crowell 21:27  Well, so okay, so she's sober. (Lesley: Yeah) And she didn't get sober until I believe her early like end of her late 30s, late 30s, early 40s. I'm not sure exactly. But it I would imagine, it would be very easy to go. Wow 20 years of hard drinking, I feel like was a waste.Lesley Logan 21:46  Well, we'll just say drinking. I don't want to put a thing attached though I don't know ...Brad Crowell 21:50  Oh, she very clearly said hard drinking (Lesley: Okay) in the interview. (Lesley: If she said, okay, that's fine. And ...) Straight up. She transitioned from binge drinking in college to (Lesley: Well, she didn't have like a bubble.) she said she had three phases. (Lesley: Yeah. Okay.) She said binge drinking in college to to the New York West Side martinis to the wine Mama. (Lesley: Oh, and she ...) And she said when, when she said the reason that the big, the big awareness was when her daughter was like, "Mom, you're having a bad day? Do you want mommy juice?" And (Lesley: yeah) she was like, "Oh, my God."Lesley Logan 22:25  Well, we we we have a member whose kids also pour... poured mommy juice for her. And she's like, "Is this a bad thing?" (Lesley laughs) (Brad: Right. So ... ) It was a pandemic. We'll give her a break.Brad Crowell 22:36  ... anyway, definitely, she definitely put that out there. But anyway, I think that it would be easy to look back on that and say, "What a waste?"Lesley Logan 22:46  Yeah. And you know, here's the deal. If you took it, (Brad: That I would disagree.) Yeah. And she would too. (Brad: Yes) So, whether you like if you think you took the wrong job, or you did the wrong person or you chuck the wrong route to work one day or, you know, you did something you're like, "That was so stupid." None of that is a waste. All of it, is a lessons and learning experiences. And I you know, I I think we need to be kinder to ourselves, and we need to almost be more of a observer in those times where things don't go the way we planned (Brad: Yeah) or we made a decision. We look back on and go, "Woah, that was dumb." You know, I mean, I was just had a ...Brad Crowell 23:25  It's really hard. It's really hard to be kind to yourself.Lesley Logan 23:28  Well, I was just on a lunch date with someone. And we were talking about exes. And like, I didn't say this because I have, I am so grateful. I but like she had mentioned like, "You know, I wasted all this time with these people." And I and I said, "You know, my husband and I probably would not have married each other if we had not had the relationship before." Because I wasn't (Brad: I think that's very ...) like a musican. Are you kidding? (Brad: Yeah) Because I dated all these perfect on paper people I was like, well guess what? Let's try something new. So I like the journey is not a waste, everything is setting you up for the next step. And I was just, (Brad: Yeah) "Who was I talking to about ...?"Brad Crowell 23:29  ... the successes and the failuresLesley Logan 23:36  Yeah, but I was talking to somebody about video games maybe the podcast, anyways. Basically like Mario Brothers, Donkey Kong that's a video games I played. So so sorry go back to your elder millennial days (Brad: and duck hunter.) Yeah, I did not get Duck Hunter, (Brad: Oh) because you needed it like an extra thing. (Brad: Yeah) I was poor. So um, the fact that we had Donkey Kong and Mario Brothers when my grandfather got tired of it. Anyways, so you like you do a level and you learn a bad guy and you beat that bad guy and then the next level you have that bad guy but you know but then there's a new bad guy and then you learn that and then the (Brad: Sure) next level and then you get to the palace to save the fucking princess. And I frickin hate it with no save a fucking princess. Like it could be a frickin prince by the way. Anyways, we're saving someone and all the bad guys you've ever had to be are all there, right?Brad Crowell 25:00  Also her name was Princess Toadstool. (Brad laughs) That's such a weird name.Lesley Logan 25:05  Somebody didn't like women. Anyways, the truth is, is that you could not be at that level if you hadn't done the other levels. (Brad: Yeah) So whatever you're about to go up to whatever obstacles in your way, the only reason you actually have any attempt at achieving, getting past it going through it being on the other side of it is because of the journey you had before it. All the things you had before, all the lessons you learned, whether you choose to learn from those lessons that's on you. But but they're all happening for you.Brad Crowell 25:37  Well, I think it's funny. Funny is the wrong word. I think that it's when it becomes circuitous. If you don't learn from it.Lesley Logan 25:45  Can you say that word again?Brad Crowell 25:46  Circuitous. (Lesley: I don't think I know it.) ... meaning it's a circuit. (Lesley: Oh) (Lesley laughs) It's a circle as a better way to say. So you won't, you know, if you don't learn from the experience you had, you somehow, in some form, you end up repeating that experience. (Lesley: Oh) So I think a great example is people who end up dating the quote, unquote, "same person over and over" or they quote, unquote, "make the same mistakes over and over and over". It's because, you know, you haven't learned from it the first time (Lesley: Yeah) or the second time or third time. (Lesley: Yeah.) And so becomes a pattern.Lesley Logan 26:21  Yeah. Well, anyways, I guess we could talk about that for an hour. (Brad: It's a whole another thing.) Thank you, Kellee, for that. What did you love what she said?Brad Crowell 26:32  So she said, she actually had this whole conversation about discern... discerning, the voice of fear, versus the voice of reason. (Lesley: Yeah) And I thought that was, (Lesley: She's brilliant.) that was really poignant. Yeah. I mean, like ...Lesley Logan 26:49  We're gonna get Brad word of the day toilet paper for the pod, like you can poignant, circuitous.Brad Crowell 26:54  That was a really gracious. No, so so ...Lesley Logan 26:59  Poignant is great. It fits perfectly. Keep it in.Brad Crowell 27:01  Yeah, she, she. I thought this was really cool because everybody second guesses themselves, you know. And ... it like for her, she was talking about going to get a master's degree. You know, she's in her, I think mid 30s at that point. And she's like, "Really now? Why, you know, is this the right thing to do?" Her husband was excited about it. She already had kids at this point. But, you know, and then she started to second guess herself. And she's like, "Wow. Really, do I need this? Why do I," you know, and started this, like, you know, rabbit trail of why. And, ultimately, that allowed her to come through the fear and decide this is the voice of reason, not the voice of, you know, (Lesley: fear) fear. Because, like, is she afraid that no one's going to take her seriously unless she has the degree. Right? (Lesley: Yeah) Or is she going to further her career and life by having this degree?Lesley Logan 28:07  Yeah, I think that I think this is like y'all. I don't know, somehow this is becoming a shirt. Like, people like, "Oh, my gut says this." Is it your gut, though? Is it like is it your gut? Or are you, is it a fear voice in there? And I think, I think a lot of times obstacles, fear voices, they're going to come up on purpose, how bad are you going to fight for them? Are you going to reason with yourself? Are going to take time to get to know that, that the difference of it and and so I, I would love to hear if you have and I, if you have a clear understanding of the voice of fear versus voice of reason. And also, by the way, I'm reading this book Chatter, but you should name them you should have a name for the voice of reason. (Brad: Oh, yeah.) And you should have a name for the voice of fear and you should have a name for that bitch in your head who's like telling you to, "You're not good enough." They should all like, they should all be named. And and you can go you know what, "Tina, (Sorry for the Tina's listening. I love you. This is I'm just picking out Tina, it came to my head.) I hear you and I'm not afraid of that." (Brad: Yeah) But thank you for that. You can take that and also ...Brad Crowell 29:13  We're gonna get there, we're gonna get there. (Lesley: Okay ..) But I think that, you know, the, the way that she decided this was a voice of reason not fear was to dig into her, 'why'. Why am I doing this? What you know, like, why go after a master's degree? Why at this point in my life, you know, why do I want to do this? And when she began to analyze that, when she began to look at her 'why', then it allowed her to confidently say, I I should do, I should I should do this. Sorry. Our dog is digging at the carpet because the carpet is clearly not soft enough.Lesley Logan 29:58  Well, but also she has with the current state of our house is because she dug it two carpets. (Brad: It's true.) And she won. (Brad: Yeah) So I just sent her a very soft hair tie.Brad Crowell 30:10  So but but she so Kellee was talking about her why, and her why allowed her to confidently make the decision. And that is something that each and every one of us can take away and really start to shake that like imposter syndrome. (Lesley: Yeah) You know that that fear based decision making. Why are you doing what you're doing, will help you confidently make the decision.Lesley Logan 30:39  I Kellee, I'm obsessed with you and Rachel Piper, our OPC teacher, girl. Thank you. Thank you for introduction. (Brad: Good choice. Good referral.) Okay, so let's talk about the BE IT action item that she had, because I have referenced it a couple of times (Brad: You have) I'm so excited about it.Brad Crowell 30:56  Yeah. All right. All right. So what bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Kellee Forkenbrock?Lesley Logan 31:04  Learn to say thank you. Learn to say thank you. Thank you, Tina. Thank you, I don't know the voice of reason. It just ...Brad Crowell 31:15  The voice of fear, the voice of reason, the ...Lesley Logan 31:18  Yeah. Name them all for yourself. Name yourself, thank yourself. Then she said thank you for the for for releasing from me from that ex. Thank you for this argument I get to have with another.Brad Crowell 31:28  Well, everything about this goes back to the the the first action item that you pulled out, which is the journey is not a waste.Lesley Logan 31:35  Thank you for that opportunity to learn about myself.Brad Crowell 31:39  Right. Thank you for you know, bringing me to a place where I realized that this is no longer serving me whatever this might be. Kellee's case, she was talking about alcohol, you know, and this is not serving me anymore. And I've become aware of it. Thank you for that experience. I mean you move on. (Lesley: Yeah) Could be changing a job. It could be firing a client. It could be, I don't know (Lesley: Yeah, I think ...) whatever, opening a new bank account.Lesley Logan 32:05  I mean, like, and also when she said learn to say thank you. She didn't say and then qualify it. So my ladies listening when someone says you look amazing. Don't say this old thing from Ross. I don't care if it's this old thing from Ross, say thank you. (Brad: Right, this old thing from Ross, awww) Or it was on sale. Like ...Brad Crowell 32:26  No, you don't have to, that's just deflection that's not actually receiving.Lesley Logan 32:29  You're literally not receiving it. So thank thank thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. First of all, thank you for listening.Brad Crowell 32:38  Yeah, thank you for listening.Lesley Logan 32:40  Thank you, Kellee, for becoming like part of our world. I or letting us into your world or I don't know, I'm just freaking excited to know you. I'm gonna go get a library card. By the time, (Brad: Yeah) you listen to this, I have a library card because I actually have 17 books. I want to listen to 17 like exact, because I just listened to an interview with a woman. She said 'yes' to the podcast, by the way. (Brad: Oh yeah) So I'm super excited about it. And it's three books about venture capitalism. And you're like, "What Lesley, I don't want to know anything about that." Let me just tell you, my ladies listening because I know what our listeners are hello to the men, but 98% of you are girls. Women identify as women. Here's a deal. We need to know how to create wealth. (Brad: Yeah) Because I'm sorry, I'm not waiting 202 years to achieve the same wealth as men. You shouldn't be excited about that. So I'm getting a library card because. Brad Crowell 33:28  They don't know what you're referring to. But yes.Lesley Logan 33:30  She's coming on, you'll know when (Brad: Yeah) you'll know. You'll know when it comes on. (Brad: Yeah) Thank you for listening. Thank you. (Brad: Thank you.) I'm getting a library card because this woman rapid, like rattled off like three books that I have to listen to. And then I met with this coffee girl, and she ran off three new books I need to read. And so I just need a library card because I refused to buy extra credits on Audible. So I'm just gonna (Brad: Yeah, I know.) go with that. And you too. (Brad: I went too.) You too, should get a library card. (Brad: You too.) Let's all support our local librarians. Okay, Kellee, thank you. (Brad: Thank you.) Brad, thanks for being here.Brad Crowell 34:01  Oh, thanks, Lesley. Same to you.Lesley Logan 34:04  Thank you for saying my name correctly. I'm Lesley Logan.Brad Crowell 34:07  And I'm Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 34:09  Thank you for joining us today. It's just because people always say it wrong. (Brad: I know.) And they and you know what if you've done that it's okay.Brad Crowell 34:16  We still love you.Lesley Logan 34:17  I'll still say thank you.Brad Crowell 34:18  Thank you for saying her name wrong. (Lesley: Yeah.)Lesley Logan 34:22  Thank you for being here. How are you going to use these BE IT actions action items in your life? I want to know, tag the @be_it_pod. Brad wants to know, he's @cactus_daddie by the way. There's a i e at the end. So, I spell it right. And Kellee. By the way, Kellee is with two e's. SoBrad Crowell 34:38  K e l l e e (Lesley: Yeah. But she is ...) Forkenbrock. You can't mess that out.Lesley Logan 34:42  Yeah. Her instagram handle if I work, recall is @writegirlproblems. Right? As in ...Brad Crowell 34:48  It'll be in the show notes because I don't actually remember.Lesley Logan 34:51  It'll be in the show notes. Don't worry about it. I remember because I really like it. So tag us both. And if you're feeling fancy tag @cactus_daddie. So we ...Brad Crowell 35:00  And 99 cents, go find some of her books.Lesley Logan 35:02  I know. (Brad: Yeah) Oh my gosh. Go get some steamy romance in your life. (Brad: Eliza David) Eliza David. (Brad: Oh yeah.) Anyways, freaking obsessed. Kellee, thank you so much. How are you going use these BE IT action items in your life? We want to know. Tag us and until next time, Be It Till You See It.Brad Crowell 35:19  Bye for now.Lesley Logan 35:22  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review. And follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcasts. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the @be_it_pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day!'Be It Till You See It' is a production of 'As The Crows Fly Media'.Brad Crowell 35:55  It's written, produced, filmed and recorded by your host Lesley Logan and me, Brad Crowell. Our Associate Producer is Amanda Frattarelli.Lesley Logan 36:06  Kevin Perez at Disenyo handles all of our audio editing.Brad Crowell 36:10  Our theme music is by Ali at APEX Production Music. And our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 36:19  Special thanks to our designer Jaira Mandal for creating all of our visuals (which you can't see because this is a podcast) and our digital producer, Jay Pedroso for editing all video each week so you can.Brad Crowell 36:31  And to Angelina Herico for transcribing each of our episodes so you can find them on our website. And, finally to Meridith Crowell for keeping us all on point and on time.Transcribed by https://otter.aiSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

LLN (5/2/22) – Two proposals have been put forward by the EPA to reduce nitrous oxide emission standards. OOIDA's director of federal affairs, Jay Grimes, explains why both options are problematic. Also, if you've got someone riding shotgun, it's best to make sure you've got the right coverage. Trista Roby and Trina Skywalker with OOIDA's Truck Insurance Department join us to discuss passenger accident coverage. And an effort in Colorado would make a specific kind of insurance coverage available to owner-operators; meanwhile, another state is taking a look at reform to police-dispatched tows. 0:00 – Newscast. 09:59 – EPA emission proposals. 24:53 – Passenger accident coverage. 39:35 – Towing reform; occupational accident insurance.

LLN (10/6/21) – A CPAP machine recall and computer chip shortage are creating problems for many truckers. The feds are considering some form of relief. Also, consumer demand has fueled historic volumes of freight this past year. Dean Croke of DAT has some insights about where we might be headed next. And the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration says it expects thousands of crashes each year from autonomous vehicles. And that raises questions about one of the basic justifications for the move toward that technology, which is the contention that it would improve safety. Jay Grimes returns to discuss the report. 0:00 – Newscast. 10:14 – CPAP recall may prompt waiver. 25:07 – Consumer demand and a freight spike. 40:03 – NHTSA: Autonomous vehicles will cause “thousands” of crashes.

LLN (4/16/21) – Depending on where you are, you have a decent chance out on the road of seeing an incredibly beautiful show truck plying their trade – perhaps with some pretty unusual twists in its appearance or design. So, have you ever seen one in pink? Our producer Barry Spillman and I will talk with Bryan Martin of the Chrome Shop Mafia. Also, Jon has made his last stop in the Spirit of the American Trucker, and Marty Ellis takes over this weekend at the Crossroads Truck Meet. I chat with both of them about Marty’s plans and Jon’s parting thoughts. And a bill to radically increase truckers’ insurance costs has been reintroduced in Congress, just as researchers are looking into the impact of insurance costs on truckers. I’ll talk with Jay Grimes of OOIDA’s Washington, D.C., office. 0:00 – Newscast. 10:15 – Pam’s pretty pink Pete. 25:08 – A new era on the Spirit begins. 39:59 – Congressman wants to increase your insurance.

“Pilates is the complete coordination of body, mind and spirit,” explained Joseph Pilates. To shed light on this quote, Karen Washburn, Classical Pilates teacher trainer and instructor discusses how to use Pilates mat work to condition the body by building strength, length, flexibility and balance. She explains how to recover core strength by using the support of the mat. Karen illuminates the physics of our bodies in relationship to the mat work and equipment. Pilates is effective because it creates resistance, opposition and contrast in the body. Karen shares deep insights on how abdominal strength improves mobility of other limbs. “You are only as old as your spine is flexible,” she stated quoting Pilates. When clients focus on recovering from childbirth or working on their core, Karen explains how to work from the inside out. She sheds light on the power of imagery to connect with the abs and explains how cognitively complex exercises integrate the mind and body. With an MA in Dance from UCLA, Karen offers a clear and comprehensive overview of the power of Classical Pilates to engage the core. She supports the inclusivity of Pilates to include younger and older clients, athletes, dancers, cancer survivors, and postpartum clients. You can reach Karen on her website: www.axislbc.com to view her fully equipped @gratz_pilates and @gyrotonic studio. Email her at karen@axislbc.com. You can find her on Instagram @axislbc With over 20 years in the industry, Karen commands a deep understanding of Pilates. Check out the following resources in her podcast. “Return to Life Through Contrology” by Joseph Pilates “Your Health: A Corrective System of Exercising That Revolutionizes the Entire Field of Physical Education” by Joseph Hubertus Pilates “Dance Imagery for Technique and Performance” by Eric Franklin #feelthedifference #pilates #core #coreworkouts #classicalpilates #pilatesteacher #pilatesreformer #pilatesbody #pilateslover #pilatesinstructor #pilatesfit #pilatesstudio #pilatesmat #pilatesfordancers #pilatesfit #gyrotonic About Karen Washburn After a varied dance career which took her to Asia, Latin America, and Europe, she pursued a Masters in Dance at UCLA. During this time, while exploring different ways to help her recover from injuries and balance her body, she encountered the two powerful healing and aligning methods which have become her passion and focus for the past 20 years. Karen has trained with many international experts in Classical Pilates, and was most recently a participant in the highly selective Masters program “The Work” with Jay Grimes, one of the last people living to have worked with Joseph Pilates directly. Karen has been a teacher trainer for Power Pilates, based in New York, for the past 13 years.. She is committed to the integrity of teaching Pilates as the creator intended. Karen has also been practicing and teaching the Gyrotonic method since 1999. She is certified in all aspects of the system, and has been an instructor trainer for the past decade. Over the years, Karen has worked directly with Juliu Horvath, the creator, as well as many preeminent experts in the method worldwide. She is the founder and owner of Axis Classical Pilates | GYROTONIC ® Naples & Belmont Shore, the first and only fully equipped Classical Pilates and Gyrotonic studio in Long Beach. Here she works with a wide range of clients, from people who are severely injured to professional athletes and dancers. Her passions are inspiring her clients, supporting her fellow Pilates instructors. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/ellie-lund/message

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Jay Grimes joins Aaron on the show, they talk about the experiences they share being underdogs as “undersized” athletes in their respective sports. They dive into what it's like playing on the level that they play on and flashback to being teammates in high school. Of course ending with the +5 Draft Segment focused on the top 5 undersized athletes of all time. Music: Hip Hop Christmas by Twin Music is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Artist: http://www.twinmusicom.org/ --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/the-a-plus-podcast/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/the-a-plus-podcast/support

Orthopaedics, Breathing, and Communications! Oh My! New England Conference Preview APTA Chapters of Connecticut, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, and New Hampshire worked together to create a virtual conference on November 7th for all members for the PT community to attend with programming available until January 31, 2021. Register here. Jay Grimes is faculty member and orthopedic residency director at Sacred Heart University, Angela Campbell is president of the APTA Cardiovascular & Pulmonary Section and Michelle Collie is the president of the RI APTA chapter and CEO of Performance Physical Therapy. Jay, Angela, and Michelle are all speakers at the first Northeast Regional Virtual Conference. Jay and his partners Jason Myerson and Michael Gans started a continuing education platform called Partners 4 Rehab Excellence for young professionals to improve their clinical skills and reasoning. At the conference, Jay will be on a residency and fellowship panel covering the residency experience. Angela will be presenting on a session called the “Science of Breath” which will include the physiology of breathing and the importance of paying attention to breathwork in a patient’ care. Michelle is speaking on the “Role of Telehealth in the Future of Our Profession.” She believes telehealth is an adjunct to our care and gives the opportunity for those people who cannot access a physical therapy clinic to receive care. PARTING SHOT “For a great price, you’re getting 30 different educational sessions, 30 posters and platforms at a very reasonable and cheap price.” – JAY “Masks work. Masks will not drop your oxygen. Coming into this conference, you have got a long time to use this information. Go outside your shell a little bit and try something new.” – ANGELA “Now is the time that our profession has the opportunity to evolve and be the leaders in MSK care as well as all the adjunct areas.” – MICHELLE

Orthopaedics, Breathing, and Communications! Oh My! New England Conference Preview APTA Chapters of Connecticut, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, and New Hampshire worked together to create a virtual conference on November 7th for all members for the PT community to attend with programming available until January 31, 2021. Register here. Jay Grimes is faculty member and orthopedic residency director at Sacred Heart University, Angela Campbell is president of the APTA Cardiovascular & Pulmonary Section and Michelle Collie is the president of the RI APTA chapter and CEO of Performance Physical Therapy. Jay, Angela, and Michelle are all speakers at the first Northeast Regional Virtual Conference. Jay and his partners Jason Myerson and Michael Gans started a continuing education platform called Partners 4 Rehab Excellence for young professionals to improve their clinical skills and reasoning. At the conference, Jay will be on a residency and fellowship panel covering the residency experience. Angela will be presenting on a session called the “Science of Breath” which will include the physiology of breathing and the importance of paying attention to breathwork in a patient’ care. Michelle is speaking on the “Role of Telehealth in the Future of Our Profession.” She believes telehealth is an adjunct to our care and gives the opportunity for those people who cannot access a physical therapy clinic to receive care. PARTING SHOT “For a great price, you’re getting 30 different educational sessions, 30 posters and platforms at a very reasonable and cheap price.” – JAY “Masks work. Masks will not drop your oxygen. Coming into this conference, you have got a long time to use this information. Go outside your shell a little bit and try something new.” – ANGELA “Now is the time that our profession has the opportunity to evolve and be the leaders in MSK care as well as all the adjunct areas.” – MICHELLE

MOSTRAR MENOSUm domingo especial ao lado de Mejo Wiggin. . MeJo Wiggin começou seu extenso estudo de Pilates em 1990 com os professores mestres Romana Kryzanowska, Bob Liekens, Sari Mejia Santo, Jay Grimes e Kathy Grant. Ela começou a ensinar ao lado de Romana em 1995 no Drago's Gym em Nova York. Com o sucesso de seu próprio estúdio de Pilates em Greenwich e 14 anos de estudo contínuo e mentoria com Romana, em 2003 , MeJo foi escolhida a dedo e certificada como instrutora de professores de nível III para ajudar a treinar a próxima geração de instrutores de Pilates de Romana. . Hoje, com mais de 25 anos de experiência, MeJo Wiggin é uma Guru de Pilates completa, com uma reputação internacional. Ela é reconhecida como uma das principais instrutoras de professores de Pilates do mundo e tem sido procurada por profissionais de Pilates e instituições de fitness para ministrar seminários nos Estados Unidos, Europa, China, Austrália, América do Sul e Rússia. . Live traduzida para o português pela grande Florence Carmont. . MeJo Wiggin began her extensive study of Pilates in 1990 with Master Teachers Romana Kryzanowska, Bob Liekens, Sari Mejia Santo, Jay Grimes, and Kathy Grant. She began her teaching next to Romana in 1995 at Drago's Gym in New York. With the success of her own Pilates studio in Greenwich, CT and 14 years of continuous study and mentor ship with Romana, in 2003 MeJo was hand picked and Certified as a Level III Teacher Trainer to help train the next generation of Romana's Pilates instructors. . Today, with over 25 years experience, MeJo Wiggin is a full fledged Pilates Guru with an international reputation. She is recognized as one of the leading Pilates Teacher Trainers and practitioners in the world and has been sought after by Pilates professionals and fitness institutions to teach seminars throughout the US, Europe, China, Australia, S. America, and Russia.

On the Sept. 29 episode of AWF Union Podcast, freelance journalist Rachel Cohen spoke about her new article “How Trump Could Dismantle Workers’ Rights with Another Four Years” which was published in the Washington Monthly. The article details how a second term for President Trump could negatively affect organized labor.Jay Grimes with the Owner-Operator Independent Drivers Association spoke with AWF Union Podcast host Ed “Flash” Ferenc about USMCA cross-border trucking issues, new provisions causing hardships for Mexican truckers and investigation and review processes established by USMCA.

Nossa live hoje é com Miguel Silva, direto de Lagos em Portugal. Miguel Silva concluiu com êxito um dos programas de reconhecimento mundial em Vintage Pilates Los Angels, com Jay Grimes. Apaixonado por Pilates, é um membro convidado por várias instituições e co-proprietário da Universo Pilates além de director pedagógico, e realizou um de seus sonhos para implementar a Escola Portuguesa de Pilates e divulgar o trabalho original de Joseph Pilates do "Contrology"!

Domingo chegando, e mais dois grandes profissionais para nossa Live. @jernestopilates direto da Espanha e @grifopilates Davi Slavutzky, de Porto Alegre, estudantes de Jay Grimes! . Não perca esse super bate-papo.

Neste episódio, mais dois grandes profissionais estão nesse bate-pao: Alexandra Bohlinger e Kirk J. Smith Natural do Rio de Janeiro, Brasil, Alexandra se mudou para Nova York aos 19 anos para estudar e seguir uma carreira em dança. Enquanto trabalhava como personal trainer e ministrava aulas de dança, Alexandra desejava melhorar suas habilidades de balé e foi apresentada ao autêntico método de Pilates. Após sua primeira lição, ela decidiu se tornar professora da técnica e começou no True Pilates New York (Drago), onde treinou com a lendária Romana Kryzanowska, protegida de Joe Pilates. Alexandra estudou com Romana, sua filha Sari Mejia Santo, Jerome Weinberg, Cynthia Shipley, Bob Liekens e Jay Grimes. Kirk Smith, professor de Pilates de segunda geração: unindo teoria e prática, mente e corpo. . Iniciou com o Pilates no final dos anos 90 em Nova York, sob a tutela de Romana Kryzanowska. Também estudou com Mary Bowen em 2000-2001 e mais tarde com Jay Grimes. Seu compromisso com o autêntico Pilates é de longa data, assim como sua dedicação em compartilhar o repertório clássico com clientes e professores. Comecou a orientar professores nos EUA em 2007, o que continuei até me mudar para o Reino Unido em 2012. Atualmente, ofereçe workshops para professores e clientes e lançou seu próprio programa de treinamento para professores.

Nossa live de lançamento com dois convidados especiais, direto de Los Angeles nos EUA. Daniela Escobar , proprietária do Westwood Pilates em LA e Ken Krench, profissionais com uma bela jornada dentro do método através da experiência ao lado de Jay Grimes e outros grandes professores. Não perca e convide os amigos.

Do you ever wonder if your side gig will ever “take off”?  Do you have a part-time job on the side that you would give anything for it to be your main career?   If you answered yes, today’s episode is for you.  You are going to hear from Lesley Logan, who built an entirely new net worth and life for herself by following what the loved and turning it into a thriving business and international movement. Lesley is a PMA Certified Pilates Teacher, has completed a Masters Pilates Program from The Pilates Center in Boulder, CO, and most recently completed ‘The Work,’ a masters program taught by one of Joseph Pilates ‘Elders,’ Jay Grimes. Lesley teaches private Pilates sessions, duets and group classes in Los Angeles. She also teaches online Pilates classes and online private Pilates sessions, and leads Pilates retreats around the world. In this episode you will learn how Lesley: Created the body she wanted by finding her deep within and bringing her out Trusted that pilates could carry her through the recession, even when people were cancelling cable  Believed she could go after anything as long as she was willing to work hard Jump started her pilates business with learning how to talk about her classes everywhere she went. Helps her customers be as committed as her to their success and in turn she eliminates missing out on payment Calculated how much she needed to make in order to quit her job. Lesley is offering special pricing for her online classes for listeners to this podcast:  https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/117.htm Net Worth It School:  https://networthitschool.teachable.com  

LLN (7/11/19) Many issues printed in the Federal Register are awaiting comment. Jay Grimes of OOIDA’s Washington, D.C. office explains why your comments are needed now. We’ve got information on Ohio considering a mandate for centerline rumble strips. And, why Pennsylvania is moving forward with legislation for snow and ice removal. Also, there's the latest information from this week’s industry calendar. And a preview on what to expect from the FMCSA's new medical handbook. 0:00-9:57 – Newscast 9:57-24:42 – It’s been busy lately at the Federal Register. 24:42-39:4 – Ohio considers center rumble strip, while Pennsylvania moves forward with snow and ice removal legislation. And, information from our industry calendar. 39:40-49:33 – A preview on possible revisions to FMCSA’s medical handbook.

Dictionary.com defines Pilates as “a method of physical and mental exercise involving stretches and breathing that focus on strengthening the abdominal core.”  Jay Grimes, a leading authority and practitioner of Pilates was recently in town for a day of teaching. We caught up with Jay and talked with him about Pilates. With more than 40 years of Pilates experience, Jay got his start in pilates by training with Joseph Pilates during the last few years of Joseph's life, and then with Joseph's wife Clara following Joseph's death. A professional dancer for eighteen years, Jay attributes his injury free dancing career to pilates. Jay compares the idea of a well tuned body with a wonderfully maintained musical instrument – if an instrument is tuned and in good working order it can be used to play any type or style of music well. Our body is the same way, according to Jay – a well tuned body doesn't care if it's bowling or dancing ballet. Everything in pilates is based on everyday movement, and fine tuning the body so that every move made is a constructive exercise – even simple things like getting in and out of the car, or walking across the kitchen. The benefits of pilates are numerous and include: • Supports an overall good and healthy body• You'll look and feel good• Offers stress relief• Promotes better posture• Improves sleep• Aids digestion An initial pilates session or two often seems deceptively simple, as the journey to pilates mastery is incredibly long. To “get pilates into the body” Jay believes a master might only need three- to five years, while the average person might need somewhere between eight- and ten years. In Jay's opinion, there are benefits to be gained in the journey. Despite the difficulty of the discipline, there's very little oversight in the business, and teaches have as little as a few months of experience up to several decades of learning.  Donna Fisher, the head pilates instructor at Cooper Fitness Center, has been practicing and teaching for 18 years, and says she was humbled to learn under Jay for a day. And Jay, after 45 years of experience, says there's always room for improvement and he still considers himself a student. When looking for an instructor, it's important to do our homework and ask lots of questions. Jay suggests we start with: • What kind of training does the teacher have?• How long have they been training?• Are they still doing continuing education? For the pilates aficionado, Jay's believes three weekly sessions of 30 minutes are enough time for someone to maintain and keep their body in tune. Jill Turner is VP of Operations for Cooper Concepts, the company that markets Cooper Complete nutritional supplements. Jill regularly contributes information to the Cooper blog. Email jsturner@cooperwellness.com or call 972-560-3262 with your questions and comments. Reference InformationJay Grimes - http://www.jaygrimes.com/ Weekly group mat Pilates classes are offered free to Cooper Fitness Center members - http://www.cooperaerobics.com/For-Individuals/PersonalFitness/Preston-Road-Dallas/Pilates.aspx Donna Fisher, Cooper Fitness Center Pilates program director – 972-233-4832, ext 4423 - http://www.cooperaerobics.com/For-Individuals/PersonalFitness/Preston-Road-Dallas/Pilates.aspx