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Thinking of selling your business one day? Or never planning to? Either way, this conversation could change how you build. Rob Walling has seen it all. He's exited his own SaaS company and helped thousands of founders grow and sell through TinySeed, MicroConf, and his podcast “Startups for the Rest of Us.” In this episode, he sits down with Dan to talk about what founders get wrong about selling, why most exits are emotionally brutal, and how to actually create a business that gives you freedom: whether or not you ever sell it. CHAPTERS (00:00:00) Why Exits Matter (Even If You Never Sell) (00:03:48) The Emotional Reality of Selling Your Business (00:08:35) What Your Business is Actually Worth (Valuation Benchmarks) (00:11:45) The $10M Dream: Who Gets There, Who Doesn't (00:18:59) The SaaS Plateau: How to Know When You're Stuck (00:27:20) The 5 Marketing Channels Still Working in 2025 (00:30:23) Can Non-Technical Founders Still Win? (00:40:33) Two Traps Founders Fall Into When Selling a Business (00:46:50) Rob's Book: “Exit Strategy” LINKS Rob's book “Exit Strategy” (https://exitstrategybook.com/) Share your story/sponsor the pod (https://forms.gle/gKZFuwReHSvg8LD48) 22 free resources for founders (https://tropicalmba.com/resources) Connect with 1,000+ generous global entrepreneurs (https://dynamitecircle.com/) Read Dan's book “Before the Exit” (https://www.amazon.com/Before-Exit-Thought-Experiments-Entrepreneurs-ebook/dp/B07BN2KD1J) Dan Andrews is the co-founder of Dynamite Circle, author of Before the Exit, host of the Tropical MBA podcast, and an entrepreneur who has successfully launched and scaled multiple 7-figure businesses. CONNECT WITH DAN Email Dan@tropicalmba.com Follow on X (https://x.com/TropicalMBA) Follow on Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/tropicalmba/) MORE EPISODES Our Lifestyle Business Non-Negotiables (https://tropicalmba.com/episodes/lifestyle-business-non-negotiables) ‘I'm Fiscally Bitcoin and Socially Ethereum' (https://tropicalmba.com/episodes/greg-gerber-crypto-2020) Is Dropshipping Still a Valid Business Model? (https://tropicalmba.com/episodes/dropshipping-valid-business-model) The Consultant's Handbook - How to Make Location Independent Income Quickly (https://tropicalmba.com/episodes/consulting) The Amazon Gold Rush (https://tropicalmba.com/episodes/amazongold) “Lifestyle Business” vs “Real Business” (https://tropicalmba.com/episodes/lifestyle-vs-real-business)
Ready to unlock the secrets to skyrocketing your conversions? Next up on That Entrepreneur Show, we're diving deep with Sahil Patel, CEO of Spiralyze, a leading force in predictive CRO and data-driven landing page optimization. With over two decades of experience, including leading his own successful SaaS company (ER Express) for 11 years, Sahil has masterminded over 130,000 A/B tests, working with giants like Netflix, Lowe's, and the NBA.In this high-impact episode, Sahil will reveal:Surprising lessons from 130,000 A/B tests that will revolutionize your landing page conversion strategy.The 4 best practices for A/B testing done right in 2024, ensuring you get meaningful results.How to run efficient A/B tests even without massive traffic.Crucial insights and hard-won lessons for first-time CEOs navigating the entrepreneurial journey.If you're an entrepreneur serious about optimizing your digital presence, maximizing your leads, and scaling your business with data-backed precision, Sahil's expertise is a goldmine you cannot afford to miss!Support the showWant the freebie from our guest? Question for our guest or Vincent? Want to become a guest or show partner? Email Danica at PodcastsByLanci@gmail.com.Show Partners:Coming Alive Podcast Production: www.comingalivepodcastproduction.comJohn Ford's Empathy Card Set and App: https://www.empathyset.com/ Music Credits: Copyright Free Music from Adventure by MusicbyAden.
Should your CMO report to sales? Nadia Davis, VP of Marketing at CaliberMind, debates the organizational structure challenges facing SaaS companies. She argues against placing marketing under revenue leadership, explaining how short-term revenue focus can undermine long-term brand building initiatives. Davis shares insights on transforming failing ABM programs into revenue-generating systems through strategic MarOps excellence and meaningful sales pipeline contributions.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Justin Jackson is the co-founder of Transistor, one of the most beloved podcast hosting platforms for creators. In this coaching episode, we map out the next stage of Justin's journey—from product founder to thought leader—with a focus on building an audience, growing influence, and creating high-leverage content that compounds.We talk about what changes when you're the face of a SaaS company, how to get more leverage from existing content, and the unique growth opportunities for creators running software businesses.Timestamps:00:00 Introduction01:42 Becoming the face of Transistor05:17 Why Justin stopped sharing behind-the-scenes08:29 Building a creator identity outside the product13:52 Which ideas deserve your voice?17:35 Strategy for launching an email course22:46 What SaaS founders can learn from creators26:01 Writing frameworks and newsletter clarity31:49 Audience trust and high-leverage content36:42 The long game of thought leadership41:00 Building in public (the right way)51:58 Balancing company growth and personal visibility58:36 Final thoughts on building in public and longevity01:06:40 What Justin's learned from years of audience-first businessIf you enjoyed this episode, please like and subscribe, share it with your friends, and leave us a review. We read every single one.Learn more about The Nathan Barry Show: https://nathanbarry.com/showFollow Nathan:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nathanbarryLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathanbarryX: https://twitter.com/nathanbarryYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thenathanbarryshowWebsite: https://nathanbarry.comFollow Justin:Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/justinjackson.caX: https://twitter.com/mijustinLinkedIn: https://ca.linkedin.com/in/justinijacksonWebsite: https://justinjackson.caTransistor: https://transistor.fmFeatured in this episode:Transistor: https://transistor.fmKit: https://kit.com
When PagerDuty went public in 2019, it was generating just $100 million in annual revenue which made it relatively small for a SaaS IPO. One of the main motivations for this was that visibility into the company's financials would inspire customer trust. In this episode, CJ speaks with Howard Wilson, PagerDuty's CFO, who shares the unique challenges of going public as a small company, how the landscape has changed since then, and how to approach an IPO when you don't have the experts you need in-house. As a former chief commercial officer, Howard brings unique insights into the role of a CFO. He discusses the importance of building a finance team with customer awareness, how he uses customer usage patterns to challenge traditional SaaS metrics, and how to uncover the unexpected pathways that customers take to reach your business. He also talks about the complexities of the “beat and raise" forecast, how market volatility creates opportunity, and breaks down his framework for mapping out potential investment areas.—LINKS:Howard Wilson on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/howardwilson01/PagerDuty: https://www.pagerduty.com/CJ on X (@cjgustafson222): https://x.com/cjgustafson222Mostly metrics: http://mostlymetrics.com—TIMESTAMPS:(00:00) Preview and Intro(02:08) Sponsor – Planful | Tabs | Rippling Spend(06:01) Earnings Calls and Being a Public Company CFO(11:14) How the Bar for Going Public Has Changed Since 2019(14:04) How Going Public Affects Customer Trust(15:50) Sponsor – Pulley | Navan | NetSuite(19:34) Approaching the IPO Process Without the Necessary Experts In-House(21:47) Using Advisors To Fill Functional Gaps in Small Companies(24:38) The IPO Tech Stack for Small Companies(25:44) The Complexities of the “Beat and Raise” Forecast(28:33) How Market Volatility Creates Opportunity(34:37) How Experience as a Chief Commercial Officer Makes a Better CFO(38:16) A Framework for Mapping Out Potential Investment Areas(44:08) Customer Awareness in Your Finance Organisation(47:47) Customer Usage Patterns Versus Traditional SaaS Metrics(52:16) The Unexpected Pathways Customers Take To Reach Your Business(57:54) Long-Ass Lightning Round: A Learning Mindset(59:22) Advice to Younger Self: Don't Stay in Your Lane(01:01:24) Finance Software Stack(01:02:57) Craziest Expense Story—SPONSORS:Planful's financial planning software can transform your FP&A function. Built for speed, accuracy, and confidence, you'll be planning your way to success and have time left over to actually put it to work. Find out more at www.planful.com/metrics.Tabs is a platform that brings all of your revenue-facing data and workflows - billing, AR, payments, rev rec, and reporting - onto a single system so you can automate and be more flexible. Find out more at: tabs.inc/metrics.Rippling Spend is a spend management software that gives you complete visibility and automated policy controls across every type of spend, saving you time and money. Get a demo to see how much time your org would save at rippling.com/metrics.Pulley is the cap table management platform built for CFOs and finance leaders who need reliable, audit-ready data and intuitive workflows, without the hidden fees or unreliable support. Switch in as little as 5 days and get 25% off your first year: pulley.com/mostlymetrics.Navan is the all-in-one travel and expense solution that helps finance teams streamline reconciliation, enforce policies automatically, and gain real-time visibility. It connects to your existing cards and makes closing the books faster and smarter. Visit navan.com/Runthenumbers for your demo.NetSuite is an AI-powered business management suite, encompassing ERP/Financials, CRM, and ecommerce for more than 41,000 customers. If you're looking for an ERP, head to https://netsuite.com/metrics and get the CFO's Guide to AI and Machine Learning.#goingpublic #SaaSIPO #CustomerTrust #CustomerAwareness #PagerDuty Get full access to Mostly metrics at www.mostlymetrics.com/subscribe
Join me as I chat with Jack Friks to discuss driving free traffic to mobile apps through organic social media marketing on Instagram and TikTok. He details a specific approach that involves creating a fresh account, studying successful content in your niche, and consistently posting while iterating on formats until finding one that generates significant views. Jack emphasizes that success requires patience, often taking 30-100 posts before finding a winning formula. Timestamps: 00:00 - Introduction and overview 01:52 - What viewers will learn from the episode 03:21 - Explanation of organic social media marketing approach 05:30 - How to find content ideas and formats 10:53 - Account warming and posting strategy 18:29 - Converting attention into actual app users 20:15 - Using AI to generate content ideas Key Points: • Jack Friks shares his journey from making zero to $20k/month using organic social media marketing for his mobile apps • The strategy involves creating a new account, finding viral content formats in your niche, and consistently iterating • Properly "warming up" a new account is crucial before posting content to avoid algorithm penalties • Converting views to app downloads requires strategic calls-to-action without making content feel like advertisements Link to Jack's Guide: https://x.com/jackfriks/status/1856013303169847470 LCA helps Fortune 500s and fast-growing startups build their future - from Warner Music to Fortnite to Dropbox. We turn 'what if' into reality with AI, apps, and next-gen products https://latecheckout.agency/ BoringMarketing — Vibe Marketing for Sale: http://boringmarketing.com/ Startup Empire - a membership for builders who want to build cash-flowing businesses https://www.skool.com/startupempire/about FIND ME ON SOCIAL X/Twitter: https://twitter.com/gregisenberg Instagram: https://instagram.com/gregisenberg/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gisenberg/ FIND JACK ON SOCIAL X/Twitter: https://x.com/jackfriks Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jackfriks Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@jackfriks0
On the podcast we talk with Charlie about why React Native has become the default for VC-funded apps, how AI is accelerating development cycles, and why speed of iteration matters more than programming language.Top Takeaways:⚡ Instant iteration cycles unlock agility React Native and Expo supercharge development by collapsing long build times into mere seconds. With tools like Expo Go enabling live updates, teams can experiment, test, and improve their apps in real time. This instant feedback loop fuels innovation, cuts dev time, and helps startups move faster than ever.
In episode #285 of SaaS Metrics School, Ben Murray dives into one of the most overlooked levers in SaaS financial performance—G&A (General & Administrative) spend. How much should you really be spending on back office functions like finance, HR, legal, and IT? Using data from Benchmarkit.AI, Ben walks through G&A as a percent of revenue across ARR stages—from startups under $1M to companies exceeding $100M. He also explains how operating leverage is created through back office efficiency and why using benchmarks segmented by ARR is crucial in SaaS metrics analysis. What You'll Learn: Why aggregate SaaS benchmarks are dangerous G&A benchmarks by ARR segment (top quartile vs. median) The role of operating leverage in SaaS profitability How to evaluate your own back office spend using metrics Actionable targets for G&A as a percent of revenue SaaS Metrics Covered: G&A % of Revenue Operating Leverage Opex Profile by ARR Benchmarking by ARR vs. ACV Resources Mentioned: Benchmarkit.ai Join Ben's SaaS Metrics community for webinars, templates, and live sessions: https://www.thesaasacademy.com/offers/ivNjwYDx/checkout Subscribe to Ben's SaaS newsletter: https://mailchi.mp/df1db6bf8bca/the-saas-cfo-sign-up-landing-page
What does it mean to build world-class products in the age of AI? In this episode, Randy Silver talks to Ezinne and Oji Udezue, co-authors of Building Rocketships, a playbook for building high-growth companies in today's fast-evolving tech landscape. Together, they unpack what product looks like now, how AI changes collaboration, and why ambition, clarity, and disciplined execution matter more than ever.Key takeaways— Building world-class products starts with clear ambition and choosing big, meaningful problems— AI isn't replacing PMs, it's changing the way product work gets done—especially in how we collaborate— Vibe coding enables faster iteration and clearer communication through prototyping in code— The product manager's job is to lead teams and help the organisation build the right thing, not just anything— Clarity, focus, and leadership buy-in are essential to successful transformation, even in legacy organisations— Product teams need to shift from writing specs to orchestrating systems that drive customer and business outcomes— Every product person should master the full arc: solving today's problems, helping customers succeed, and spotting future opportunitiesChapters 0:00 The "should PMs code?" debate1:54 First product roles and how the book came to life4:49 The mission behind Building Rocketships7:13 Why the book is for leaders and their partners10:01 Differences between world-class teams and everyone else13:35 What ambition really looks like17:10 How clarity transforms legacy companies23:10 AI, vibe coding, and the new spec: working prototypes30:10 Redefining the product team's role in the AI age35:02 What skills PMs actually need to thrive now42:54 The one mistake PMs can't afford to makeFeatured Links: Follow Ezinne on LinkedIn | Follow Oji on LinkedIn | ProductMind | Buy their new book 'Building Rocketships: Product Management for High Growth Companies'Our HostsLily Smith enjoys working as a consultant product manager with early-stage and growing startups and as a mentor to other product managers. She's currently Chief Product Officer at BBC Maestro, and has spent 13 years in the tech industry working with startups in the SaaS and mobile space. She's worked on a diverse range of products – leading the product teams through discovery, prototyping, testing and delivery. Lily also founded ProductTank Bristol and runs ProductCamp in Bristol and Bath. Randy Silver is a Leadership & Product Coach and Consultant. He gets teams unstuck, helping you to supercharge your results. Randy's held interim CPO and Leadership roles at scale-ups and SMEs, advised start-ups, and been Head of Product at HSBC and Sainsbury's. He participated in Silicon Valley Product Group's Coaching the Coaches forum, and speaks frequently at conferences and events. You can join one of communities he runs for CPOs (CPO Circles), Product Managers (Product In the {A}ether) and Product Coaches. He's the author of What Do We Do Now? A Product Manager's Guide to Strategy in the Time of COVID-19. A recovering music journalist and editor, Randy also launched Amazon's music stores in the US & UK.
This episode is for SaaS founders building in regulated industries—and anyone tired of chasing the next quick win. Most SaaS companies fail because they launch too early. Dimitri Masin, Co-Founder & CEO of Gradient Labs, took a different path. He spent 14 months building before serving a single customer—against every startup playbook. His AI customer support platform now guarantees better performance than human teams and hit $1M ARR in five months after launch. And this inspired me to invite Dimitri to my podcast. We explore how setting impossibly high standards creates customer trust that competitors can't match. Dimitri shares tactical insights about building for regulated industries, creating objective guarantees, and why most automation claims are misleading math. You'll discover the quality standards that created 100% POC win rates. We also zoom in on two of the 10 traits that define remarkable software companies: They focus on the essence They acknowledge they can't please everyone Dimitri's story is proof that traction often starts by doing what most others avoid. Here's one of Dimitri's quotes that captures his quality-first philosophy: "We kind of set the bar very, very high for us, because from the beginning... the bar needs to be at least as high as humans in those companies can produce, or higher, ideally." By listening to this episode, you'll learn: Why building for 14 months before launch created competitive advantage What objective guarantees do for risk-averse financial services buyers When focusing on one vertical becomes your biggest growth lever Why 50% ticket automation only delivers 20% business value For more information about the guest from this week: Guest: Dimitri Masin, Co-Founder & CEOWebsite: gradientlabs.aiLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dimitrimasin/ Want to dig deeper into the 10 traits of remarkable SaaS companies? Get my book The Remarkable Effect at valueinspiration.com/book Or sign up for Espresso with Ton at valueinspiration.com/daily - a 2-minute daily email to sharpen your thinking and strategy. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
”Oh look — Bronze, Silver, and Gold. Because what this $5,000 problem really needed was a damn menu.” When you offer three-tiered pricing because “that's how pricing psychology works, right?”… All you're doing is giving your best clients more questions, more confusion, and a way to spend less money. You're not a SaaS. You're not a wedding cake. And tiered pricing? That's just ONE of six "big, dumb stupid idiot" pricing mistakes in this week's podcast episode. Step into the “Pricing Confessional” with me to talk about the mistakes we're all kinda ashamed of: “I'm in a place where I say yes to anything I can get my hands on.” “I've generally undercharged throughout my career.” “I've allowed clients to negotiate lower rates.” “I would love to raise that rate but this is what I'm comfortable with right now.” “I have not had a very consistent pricing structure — everything has been too custom.” Sound familiar? You know it's dumb. Let's fix it. It's time to STOP pricing like a big dumb stupid idiot and START being smarter about your pricing so you can actually attract and close those high-end clients you want. For full show notes, visit https://6figurecreative.com/366
Is your HR tech stack fixing real business problems, or just fuelling the shiny object hype? With new HR technologies arriving faster than ever, many organisations are quick to jump on the next big thing. But in the rush to modernise, are we losing sight of the real business problems we're meant to be solving? In this episode of the Digital HR Leaders podcast, host David Green is joined by Matthew Brown, Director of Research, HCM at ISG, whose diverse career spans practitioner, former Chief People Officer, and now respected industry analyst. And together they tackle a fundamental question: Are we truly leveraging HR technology to create business value, or are we just keeping up with trends? Tune in and join them as they explore: Why the disconnect between HR and tech adoption persists, and how to bridge it The risks of adopting AI without clear business purpose Why data quality remains an overlooked but critical obstacle What HR tech vendors should be doing to ethically upskill their customers When reimplementation of existing systems may be a smarter choice than replacement How to distinguish genuine tech partners from transactional vendors If you're questioning whether your HR tech strategy is driving real results or just driving activity, this conversation, sponsored by HiBob, offers timely insight, practical guidance, and fresh perspective from both sides of the industry. HiBob is a fast-growing new leader in the HCM market. In fact, according to HR tech guru Josh Bersin, HiBob is one of the few SaaS companies that have successfully cracked the code on user experience. Josh Bersin says that Bob is not only feature-rich but genuinely enjoyable to use. Read his review of Bob--as an HR tech analyst and user--at www.hibob.com/davidgreen2025. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
SaaS Scaled - Interviews about SaaS Startups, Analytics, & Operations
Today, we're joined by Todd Olson, co-founder and CEO of Pendo, the world's first software experience management platform. We talk about:Offloading work from employees to digital workersWhen most people will opt to chat with an AI agent over a humanThe need for SaaS apps to transform themselves into agentic appsAdvice for serial SaaS entrepreneurs, including a big cautionary tale for startupsAI-generated and AI-maintained code and the ease of prototyping
What drives B2B marketing success—and why do so many companies get it wrong? In this episode of Predictable B2B Success, we sit down with Andy Culligan, a straight-talking marketing leader, fractional CMO, and former CRO with a wealth of experience steering SaaS brands through turbulent growth. Andy gets candid about why 79% of marketing leads go nowhere and how the disconnect between sales and marketing is silently draining your revenue potential. Listen as Andy unpacks the real secrets behind turning your marketing into a revenue machine (hint: there's no magic bullet, just honest, consistent work) and why fancy attribution models might not be as valuable as you think. Discover the “human interface” role of SDR teams, the power of true sales-marketing alignment, and why some of the most critical tactics—like analyst relations and active thought leadership from company executives—fly under the radar until it's almost too late. If you've ever grappled with stagnant pipeline, siloed teams, or wondered when it's time for a fractional CMO, Andy's battle-tested frameworks and blunt advice will give you a fresh perspective on how to unlock your business's next growth phase. Don't miss this episode, brimming with actionable insights and surprising truths. Some areas we explore in this episode include: Marketing as a Revenue Driver – How effective marketing directly impacts business growth and revenue, particularly in SaaS and B2B.Sales and Marketing Alignment – The necessity of tight collaboration between marketing, sales, and SDR teams.Evolving Marketing Mindset – Andy's transition from traditional marketing to a revenue-focused approach in tech.Demand Generation & Brand Consistency – The importance of consistent, holistic demand generation and brand efforts.Marketing Attribution Challenges – Difficulties in measuring marketing's impact on revenue and why practical metrics matter.Fractional vs. Full-Time Leadership – When to hire a fractional CMO, common hiring mistakes, and scaling leadership.Scaling Teams Through Growth Stages – When and how to grow marketing and SDR teams as companies scale.Account-Based Marketing Strategies – Concrete ABM tactics that engage high-value accounts with tailored plays.Short-Term vs. Long-Term Marketing Needs – Balancing immediate revenue goals with brand-building activities.Overlooked Growth Levers – The importance of analyst relations and getting executives involved in brand efforts.And much, much more...
Are you struggling to build a high-velocity partner program that actually drives revenue? Wondering how to structure channel margins and opportunity registrations to attract—and keep—great cybersecurity resellers? Curious about how emerging technologies and evolving needs are shaping the next generation of vendor-reseller partnerships? This episode, recorded live at RSA Conference 2025, dives deep into these questions with actionable insights from a top industry leader.In this conversation we discuss:
Ian and Aaron talk about Ian's new love of Codex, what happened after “panic mode”, Aaron's weekend with the guys, and more.Sponsored by Bento, WorkOS, NativePHP for Mobile, ForwardMX, and Laracon US 2025Interested in sponsoring Mostly Technical? Head to https://mostlytechnical.com/sponsor to learn more.(00:00) - Table Captaining (11:49) - Ads Work! (13:42) - Panic Mode Update (27:48) - Make It Recurring (35:12) - Irons In The Fire (42:20) - Ian ❤️ Codex (54:58) - Aaron's Weekend With Humanity (01:07:01) - The Ultimate Satisficer Links:The Bedford by Martha StewartJustin Jackson's Bluesky post about ads workingOpenAI's CodexTexas Hill Country
In this episode of SaaS Fuel, Jeff Mains is joined by cybersecurity expert and SafeStack CEO Laura Bell Main to reframe how SaaS founders think about security. It's not just compliance or a checklist—it's a cultural foundation for growth. Laura shares how security, when embedded early, accelerates deals, reduces friction in enterprise sales, and strengthens trust with customers before it's ever questioned.You'll learn how to shift developer mindsets, build security into your engineering culture, and avoid the costly mistake of treating security as someone else's job.Whether you're a bootstrapped founder or VC-backed startup, this is the episode that helps futureproof your SaaS—without killing your velocity.Key Takeaways00:00 – Intro: Hiring challenges in a capital-efficient SaaS world01:47 – Why security isn't a feature—it's the foundation02:16 – Creating a dev culture where security is second nature04:00 – Guest intro: Laura Bell Main of SafeStack05:04 – Laura's cybersecurity journey and founding SafeStack08:01 – Security as culture, not compliance10:50 – Scaling to 84 countries with no ad spend13:03 – From side project to global venture14:52 – Early founder mistakes and big lessons17:06 – Culture of learning: “What I Learned Today”18:46 – Scaling support for SaaS founders20:00 – Filtering the noise and trusting your next step22:35 – Cross-cultural founder lessons25:17 – Internal culture: Balancing trust, safety, and innovation29:13 – Designing security education that actually works33:15 – Getting entire engineering teams involved36:10 – The risk of delaying security in SaaS38:28 – Accelerating enterprise sales with securityTweetable Quotes“Security isn't a task—it's a culture.” — Laura Bell Main“Most SaaS founders wait until it's too late to think about security.” — Jeff Mains“Embedding security early isn't a slowdown—it's an accelerant.” — Laura Bell Main“The cost of a bad hire is nothing compared to the cost of a poor culture.” — Jeff Mains“If 150 developers is your threshold for hiring a security person, you've waited too long.” — Laura Bell Main“Scaling a SaaS company requires fewer hacks and more habits.” — Jeff MainsSaaS Leadership LessonsSecurity Is a Culture, Not a CheckboxMaking security part of your team's DNA creates long-term growth, not short-term friction.Hire Based on Pain, Not HopeScaling prematurely can be just as dangerous as hiring too late.Start Security Early—Not After the First Enterprise DealFounders who embed security from the start build trust faster and shorten the sales cycle.Teach Security as Behavior, Not Just TheorySafeStack succeeds by focusing on culture change, not technical checklists.Global Growth Without Ads Is PossibleIf your mission is clear and execution solid, early adopters will spread the word.Your Culture Is the Greatest Risk or AssetCreate an environment where learning is daily, mistakes are shared, and trust is built top-downGuest ResourcesEmail - laura@safestack.ioWebsite - https://safestack.io/Linkedin - https://www.linkedin.com/in/laurabellmain/Episode...
We got our hands on Jacco van der Kooij's latest GTM playbook. The one he's only been sharing behind closed doors at high-ticket, invite-only events. And yes, we're leaking it. This isn't just a few new tactics. It's a complete shift in how revenue leaders think about growth. No more chasing leads at all costs. No more funnels that fall apart at scale. Instead, it's about turning your users into your biggest growth engine. We dig into what's changing, what companies like Notion and Snowflake are doing differently, and why this approach might be the healthiest way to grow in B2B right now. Never miss a new episode! join our newsletter at revenueformula.substack.com (00:00) - Introduction (01:24) - Exploring the New Playbook (08:04) - Activating Your User Base (23:01) - The tiered users ecosystem (29:43) - Cohort-Based Events (36:56) - Human-Led Growth: The Power of Real Connections (43:21) - The New Playbook: Integrating Sales and Success (51:23) - Up next: The SDR Playbook
In this episode, Andreas Munk Holm sits down with Philippe Petitpont, co-founder & CEO of Moments Lab, and Gökçe Seylan, Principal at OX, for an insider conversation on the future of video AI and how Europe is producing vertical champions with real traction.Fresh off a $24M scale round, Philippe walks us through the evolution of Moments Lab from metadata indexing to full AI-powered video agents. Gökçe shares why this was a must-invest opportunity for OX and what the company's journey reveals about product-market fit, global GTM, and the rise of vertical AI platforms in Europe.This one's a must-listen for anyone building at the intersection of AI, SaaS, media, and enterprise.Here's what's covered:04:00 Understanding 1 Million Hours of Video: Why AI was the only answer07:00 Why ChatGPT Can't Win This Market: Vertical depth vs. horizontal power10:30 Real Video vs. Synthetic Content: Where emotion, IP, and accuracy still rule16:00 Rights Management in Video AI: How Moments Lab handles ownership at scale21:10 What Is Agentic AI? From prompt to production, with real content27:30 The VC Perspective: Why OX backed this team at scale31:00 From Startup to Scale-Up: Going enterprise, going US36:30 Business Model Design: Why they price by hours, not seats44:00 Scaling from Seed to Series A+: Building infrastructure, not just growth49:30 Being a European Deeptech Founder: Talent advantages, GTM challenges54:30 The Rise of European Vertical AI: Legal, industrial, cyber—and now video
Today, we're talking with Mahesh Guruswamy, CPTO at Kickstarter. In this episode, we discuss: How daily reflection on hard moments helped him grow as a leader—and led to his widely praised book How to Deliver Bad News and Get Away with It. How Kickstarter went from “printing money” and experiencing “insane” PMF to plateauing - and how they created urgency and competition to quickly turn it around The actual process Kickstarter used to activate its creator and backer communities to shape a better UX, build real loyalty, and re-ignite growth Links LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/maheshguruswamy/ Website: https://www.maheshguruswamy.com/ Substack: https://maheshguruswamy.substack.com/ Resources How to Deliver Bad News and Get Away with It: A Manager's Guide, By Mahesh Guruswamy: https://www.amazon.com/How-Deliver-Bad-News-Away/dp/B0D7FHTTNN Tell Your CEO They're Wrong (And KEEP Your Career) | Steve Nash, Dir. Product (GumGum): https://youtu.be/oeEBy8mJfB0 Chapters 00:00 Intro 01:09 Mahesh's Background and Kickstarter Connection 02:08 The Power of Writing and Self-Reflection 04:28 Publishing a Book: How to Deliver Bad News 05:53 Effective Communication and Feedback 06:46 Navigating Tough Conversations 11:03 Kickstarter's Evolution and Challenges 14:16 Listening to Customers and Adapting 19:36 Navigating Market Shifts and Growth 20:34 Prioritizing Customer Feedback 25:59 Building and Engaging the Community 29:54 Competitive Strategies and Organizational Culture 34:05 Leadership and Legacy 37:03 Conclusion and Future Prospects Follow LaunchPod on YouTube We have a new YouTube page (https://www.youtube.com/@LaunchPod.byLogRocket)! Watch full episodes of our interviews with PM leaders and subscribe! What does LogRocket do? LogRocket's Galileo AI watches user sessions for you and surfaces the technical and usability issues holding back your web and mobile apps. Understand where your users are struggling by trying it for free at LogRocket.com (https://logrocket.com/signup/?pdr). Special Guest: Mahesh Guruswamy.
What if you hit $3 million in revenue—with no sales or marketing team? In this episode of The Root of All Success, host Jason Duncan sits down with Frank Sondors, founder of Salesforge.ai, to unpack how he bootstrapped his AI-powered sales platform to multi-million dollar ARR in just one year. No sales reps. No marketers. Just bold execution, a co-founder match on YC's platform, and an AI agent named “Frank.” Frank shares how his background in politics, Google, and SaaS leadership collided into a startup built to do sales smarter. They talk about what's broken in traditional selling, why most AI companies miss the point, and how founder-led growth can scale when paired with smart tech. Whether you're a startup founder, tech builder, or sales leader, this one is packed with real talk and smart strategy.
Send us a textIn this episode, Chris Hackney joins On Top of PR host Jason Mudd to learn how to track, interpret, and leverage media coverage.Tune in to learn more!Our Guest:Our episode guest is Chris Hackney, chief product officer at Meltwater. He brings more than 25 years of experience in B2B SaaS, specializing in media intelligence, PR technology, and communications strategy. At Meltwater, he leads product innovation to help brands navigate complex media landscapes and act on real-time insights.Five things you'll learn from this episode:1. What media intelligence is and how it strengthens PR strategy2. How to turn media monitoring into measurable business insights3. Why PR professionals must embrace data-driven storytelling4. Which metrics matter most when evaluating earned media coverage5. How Meltwater is evolving its tools to meet the needs of modern communicatorsQuotables“Media intelligence helps you move from reporting what happened to influencing what happens next.” — @ChrisHackney“PR needs to speak the language of the boardroom. That means data, context, and outcomes.” — @ChrisHackney“The goal isn't more coverage — it's the right coverage that moves the needle.” — @ChrisHackney“You can't manage what you don't measure. And that includes reputation.” — @JasonMudd9“Media monitoring tools have evolved. It's time PR pros evolved with them.” — @JasonMudd9If you enjoyed this episode, please take a moment to share it with a colleague or friend. You may also support us through Buy Me a Coffee or by leaving us a quick podcast review.About Chris HackneyOur episode guest is Meltwater's Chris Hackney, vice president of enterprise sales. Chris brings nearly two decades of experience in digital media, SaaS technology, and public relations. At Meltwater, he works closely with communications leaders and enterprise organizations to help them gather, analyze, and act on media insights that drive strategic decisions.Chris has a deep understanding of the evolving PR landscape and the growing need for measurement and accountability in earned media. He frequently works with clients to strengthen their media intelligence capabilities and align communications with business outcomes. His insights help brands better understand their reputations, competitive positioning, and media performance in a fast-moving digital environment.Guest's contact info and resources:Chris Hackney on LinkedInMeltwater website10 steps to prepare your company for crisisAdditional Resources:Understanding the differences of PR monitoring, measurement, and evaluationSupport the show On Top of PR is produced by Axia Public Relations, named by Forbes as one of America's Best PR Agencies. Axia is an expert PR firm for national brands. On Top of PR is sponsored by ReviewMaxer, the platform for monitoring, improving, and promoting online customer reviews.
Sales Enablement in staffing is no longer a tactical side function, it's the engine of your entire go-to-market strategy. In this eye-opening episode, Avner Baruch (Author of Project Moneyball) shares how top staffing and recruiting firms are transforming enablement from “content dumping” into measurable impact through coaching, role practice, and feedback loops. This video will inspire you to re-evaluate your GTM systems and explore enablement through the lens of performance coaching and strategic execution. In This Episode: What Sales Enablement in Staffing really means today How to build a go-to-market strategy aligned with sales motion The hidden cost of relying solely on content (and what to do instead) Why role practice and feedback loops are critical for sales acceleration How elite teams reinforce skills—without blowing their budget The enablement tech stack that makes it all possible Avner's Project Moneyball methodology for enabling outcomes across the customer lifecycle Whether you're launching a new GTM motion or trying to reverse stagnant revenue, the insights here are built to drive impact across your customer lifecycle. Timestamps: 00:43 - What is sales enablement? A Moneyball analogy 02:57 - Sales enablement in startups vs. enterprises 03:45 - Why the best companies go beyond content 04:55 - The economic pressure fueling enablement evolution 06:43 - Common pitfalls: Content without context 08:51 - Why content is only half the battle 10:53 - The power of role practice and daily sales routines 12:55 - Real-world staffing challenges and playbook creation 16:29 - Why leaders avoid role practice—and how to fix it 20:52 - Leveraging AI for sales coaching 22:30 - Shifting outdated staffing habits 25:12 - Consistency beats intensity in sales enablement 27:26 - Misalignment of seller skills and roles 31:59 - Coachability and cultural fit in hiring 34:17 - The ideal sales enablement hire 37:01 - Content graveyards vs. actionable insights 41:36 - Meet Avner Baruch and Project Moneyball 44:26 - Moneyball methodology for enablement ROI 46:30 - Avner's favorite book: Crossing the Chasm About the Speakers: Brad Bialy is host of Take the Stage and InSights, two of the leading podcast for the staffing industry, presented by Haley Marketing. He has a deep passion for helping staffing and recruiting firms achieve their business objectives through strategic digital marketing. For over a decade, Brad has developed a proven track record of motivating and educating staffing industry professionals at over 100 industry-specific conferences and webinars. As a visionary leader, Brad has helped guide the comprehensive marketing strategy of more than 300 staffing and recruiting firms. His keen eye for strategy and delivery has resulted in multiple industry award-winning social media campaigns, making him a sought-after expert and speaker in the industry. As an executive GTM and Enablement leader, Avner Baruch has built and led GTM, Sales Enablement and RevOps functions from the ground up for leading Startups such as Walkme, Imperva-Incapsula, Rapyd and more notable SaaS businesses. As a consultant, member of Advisory Boards and Design Partners, he has helped entrepreneurs and scaling startups implement and reinforce their sales methodologies, fine-tune their Product-Market Fit, design, build and scale their selling motion. In 2020 he founded Project Moneyball (a GTM consulting firm) to help early-stage startups and scaling businesses overcome growth challenges. He is a certified sales trainer holding a B.Eng with Honors in Electrical Engineering & Physics from Coventry University (UK) and the Max Planck Institute (France). Offers Heard in this Episode: 30 minutes of strategic marketing consultation with Brad Bialy: https://bit.ly/Bialy30 Special Offers! Our Best Savings of 2025: https://bit.ly/bialyoffer What if your back office fueled your growth instead of holding it back? TRICOM makes it happen! From payroll and billing to accounting and asset based lending, they clear the roadblocks and power your path forward. Your team gets paid, your cash flow stays steady and your business scales like never before. TRICOM doesn't just support you, they set you up to soar. Visit https://www.TRICOM.com to learn more.
AI is rewriting the rules for marketing roles—and the expectations that come with them. In episode 88 of B2B SaaS Marketing Snacks, Brian Graf and Stijn Hendrikse dig into how job descriptions, hiring, and performance standards are shifting as AI becomes a core part of every marketer's toolkit.What you'll learn:Why activity-based job descriptions are outdated, and why outcomes and ownership matter more than everThe new skills that set marketers apart—like prompt engineering, mastering AI tools, and delivering a high signal-to-noise ratio in your workHow the definition of “quality” has changed, and why B+ work is no longer enough when everyone has access to the same AI-powered shortcutsThe idea that every hire is now a “team of one” backed by powerful AI, and what that means for productivity and accountabilityHow to update your job descriptions and interviews to focus on creativity, critical thinking, and the ability to drive real business results—not just outputWhy testing, feedback, and iteration are now table stakes, and why marketers need to use their extra time for deeper work, not just more workYou'll hear practical examples for content marketing roles, tips for raising the bar on quality, and a candid look at how reputation and professional equity are evolving in the age of AI. The conversation is honest, sometimes a bit unfinished, and full of real-world perspective from two leaders who've seen the shift up close. B2B SaaS Marketing Snacks is one of the most respected voices in the SaaS industry. It is hosted by two leading marketing and revenue growth experts for software:Stijn Hendrikse: Author of T2D3 CMO Masterclass & Book, Founder of KalungiBrian Graf: CEO of KalungiB2B SaaS companies move through predictable stages of marketing focus, cost and size (as described in the popular T2D3 book). The best founders, CFOs and COOs in B2B SaaS rely on a balance of marketing leadership, strategy and execution to produce the customer and revenue growth they require. Staying flexible and nimble is a key marketing asset in a hard-charging B2B world.Resources shared in this episode:The State of B2B SaaS SEO in the Age of AI [2025]Unlocking the power of AI: Transform your content creation processHow Google's New AI Mode Is Reshaping B2B SaaS Marketing T2D3 CMO MasterclassSubmit and vote on our podcast topicsABOUT B2B SAAS MARKETING SNACKS Since 2020, The B2B SaaS Marketing Snacks Podcast has offered software company founders, investors and leadership a fresh source of insights into building a complete and efficient engine for growth.Meet our Marketing Snacks Podcast Hosts: Stijn Hendrikse: Author of T2D3 Masterclass & Book, Founder of KalungiAs a serial entrepreneur and marketing leader, Stijn has contributed to the success of 20+ startups as a C-level executive, including Chief Revenue Officer of Acumatica, CEO of MightyCall, a SaaS contact center solution, and leading the initial global Go-to-Market for Atera, a B2B SaaS Unicorn. Before focusing on startups, Stijn led global SMB Marketing and B2B Product Marketing for Microsoft's Office platform.Brian Graf: CEO of KalungiAs CEO of Kalungi, Brian provides high-level strategy, tactical execution, and business leadership expertise to drive long-term growth for B2B SaaS. Brian has successfully led clients in all aspects of marketing growth, from positioning and messaging to event support, product announcements, and channel-spend optimizations, generating qualified leads and brand awareness for clients while prioritizing ROI. Before Kalungi, Brian worked in television advertising, specializing in business intelligence and campaign optimization, and earned his MBA at the University of Washington's Foster School of Business with a focus in finance and marketing.Visit Kalungi.com to learn more about growing your B2B SaaS company.
Consumer preferences are constantly changing. Hear insights from a snacker panel on what your customers want now and where snacking is heading. Hosted by: Jeff Lenard About our Guests: Rachel Krupa, Founder, The Goods Mart and Krupa Consulting In 2018, Rachel founded the highly curated better-for-you, socially conscious convenience store concept, The Goods Mart, based in New York City. She also is the founder of Krupa Consulting, a public relations and brand-building agency. Dana Kim, Founder and CEO, Highlight Dana founded Highlight, the first and still only end-to-end agile product testing platform, that enables the efficient collection of scaled product performance data. It is a top SAAS platform in the product testing space.
262.Bölümde RE&UP Recycling Technologies Strateji Müdürü Elif Nisa Kaya konuğum oldu. (00:00) – Açılış (01:42) – Elif Nisa Kaya'yı tanıyoruz. (03:10) - Türkiye'den Küresel Yatırımcıya: Fintech, Gaming, SaaS ve diğer Türk teknoloji Start-up'larının yatırım fonları ile etkileşimi Venture capital (VC) yatırımcıları Türkiye'de hangi sektörlere yatırım yapıyor? (05:46) – Yapay zeka alanında ilerleme kaydettik mi? (09:00) - Türk teknoloji şirketleri hangi aşamada hangi tip yatırımcı ile değer yaratabilir? (12:04) - SaaS start-up'ları farklı ülke pazarlarına açılırken nelere dikkat etmeli? https://hbrturkiye.com/blog/saas-sirketleri-icin-cografi-genisleme-stratejisi-dort-asamali-yaklasim (16:20) - Yatırımcıların en çok sorduğu sorular ve girişimcilerin sık yaptığı hatalar neler? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shark_Tank (21:45) - Yatırımcı ile anlaşma sürecinde dikkat edilmesi gereken gizli riskler (25:40) – Son sözler (26:24) – Döngüsel teknoloji ve ekonomi (29:00) – Kitap önerisi Atomik Alışkanlıklar - https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/53711349-atomik-al-kanl-klar?ac=1&from_search=true&qid=Sa3t7khcvp&rank=1 (29:50) - Kapanış Elif Nisa Kaya - https://www.linkedin.com/in/elifnisakaya/ Sosyal Medya takibi yaptın mı? Twitter - https://twitter.com/dunyatrendleri Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/dunya.trendleri/ Linkedin - https://www.linkedin.com/company/dunyatrendleri/ Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/c/aykutbalcitv Goodreads - https://www.goodreads.com/user/show/28342227-aykut-balc aykut@dunyatrendleri.com Bize bağış yapıp destek olmak için Patreon hesabımız – https://www.patreon.com/dunyatrendleri Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
saas.unbound is a podcast for and about founders who are working on scaling inspiring products that people love, brought to you by https://saas.group/, a serial acquirer of B2B SaaS companies. In episode #25 of season 5, Anna Nadeina talks with Benedikt, co-founder of Jamie, an AI meeting assistant. --------------Episode's Chapters---------------- 00:00 - Benedict's Background and Early Ventures 03:06 - The Birth of Jamie: Idea and Validation 07:33 - Growth Strategies and Challenges 21:00 - The Challenge of Marketing a Versatile Product 22:07 - SEO Strategies and Ranking Tips 25:19 - Social Media and Brand Building 27:04 - Launching a Podcast: Purpose and Challenges 31:38 - AI Tools and Productivity Hacks 36:32 - Biggest Wins, Failures, and Final Thoughts Benedikt - https://www.linkedin.com/in/boeringer/ Jamie - https://www.meetjamie.ai/ Subscribe to our channel to be the first to see the interviews that we publish twice a week - https://www.youtube.com/@saas-group Stay up to date: Twitter: https://twitter.com/SaaS_group LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/14790796
www.aihoopscoach.com https://teachhoops.com/ The "20-40-60 Rule" is a widely cited piece of wisdom, often attributed to actress Shirley MacLaine, that describes a common progression in how people relate to the opinions of others as they age. While it's not a formal psychological or financial rule, it offers a compelling insight into personal development and self-perception. Here's a breakdown of the rule: At 20, you worry about what everyone is thinking of you. In our youth, there's a strong emphasis on fitting in, seeking approval, and establishing identity. We often feel highly scrutinized and are very sensitive to perceived judgments from peers, family, and society. This stage is marked by a significant concern for external validation. At 40, you don't give a damn what people are thinking about you. As people mature and gain life experience, they often develop a stronger sense of self and confidence. The need for external validation diminishes, and individuals become more comfortable in their own skin. They learn to prioritize their values and beliefs over the opinions of others, leading to greater autonomy and self-acceptance. At 60, you realize no one was thinking about you at all. This final stage brings a profound realization: most people are primarily focused on their own lives, concerns, and perceptions. The intense self-consciousness of youth is revealed to be largely self-imposed. This perspective can be incredibly liberating, allowing for even greater freedom to live authentically without the burden of imagined scrutiny. Applications and Interpretations: While primarily a life lesson, the "20-40-60 rule" can be applied to various aspects of life: Personal Growth: It encourages self-compassion and a quicker path to self-acceptance. The sooner one can adopt the mindset of not caring excessively about others' opinions (the "40s mindset"), the more fulfilling and less anxious life can be. The ultimate realization (the "60s mindset") can be incredibly freeing. Leadership and Coaching: For leaders and coaches, understanding this progression is vital. Many in these roles start by being overly concerned with pleasing everyone, which can hinder effective decision-making. Moving quickly to a more confident and less approval-seeking stance allows for better leadership and resilience in the face of criticism. Business and Marketing (related but distinct concepts): While not the original intent, some business concepts draw inspiration from numerical rules to guide strategy. For example: The "Rule of 40" in SaaS: This is a financial metric for software-as-a-service (SaaS) companies, stating that a company's combined revenue growth rate and profit margin should equal or exceed 40%. It's a way to assess the health and sustainability of a growing business. 60/20/20 Budgeting Rule: This is a personal finance guideline suggesting that 60% of income goes to living expenses, 20% to savings, and 20% to discretionary spending. This is distinct from the psychological "20-40-60 rule." 20/40/60 Minimum Marketing Rule: Some marketing coaches use this framework, suggesting a minimum of 20 minutes daily for marketing, 40 minutes weekly for content creation, and 60 minutes monthly for bigger strategic marketing tasks. It's important to differentiate the psychological "20-40-60 rule" from these other business or financial "rules" that simply use similar numerical sequences. The core of the original "20-40-60 rule" lies in its timeless wisdom about human self-perception and the journey towards self-acceptance. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
The tables are turned: CJ is interviewed by Lilly Wyden, host of the Shared Narratives podcast, to talk about the intersection of tech, finance, and writing.We discuss:* How I found a CFO job via my newsletter* The power of owning specific patches of real estate on the internet* If big Substack writers will have talent agents someday* How the memeification of finance has made the industry more fun and approachable* Whether I would ever write about corporate gossip or finance junk food* What types of products I might launch in the future, and more.Subscribe to Lilly's podcast: https://feeds.acast.com/public/shows/67dc51a1f48da98092cff738And subscribe to her Substack where you can also get her podhttps://sharednarratives.substack.com/Run the Numbers is brought to you by Zenskar.Zenskar is an AI-powered order-to-cash platform that automates billing, revenue recognition, and SaaS reporting — no spreadsheets, no engineering required. Built for modern B2B companies, Zenskar supports any pricing model: subscriptions, usage-based, or complex custom contracts.Step into the future of finance today. Visit zenskar.com/rtn and book a demo! Get full access to Mostly metrics at www.mostlymetrics.com/subscribe
In episode #284, let's break down AI ARR. As artificial intelligence transforms SaaS business models, a new metric is gaining traction: AI ARR (Artificial Intelligence Annual Recurring Revenue). But what exactly is AI ARR, how do public SaaS companies define it, and why should private SaaS operators care? In this episode, Ben Murray dives deep into how companies like Verint Systems are reporting AI ARR in their earnings and press releases. Ben breaks down the nuances of these definitions, the implications for SaaS valuation, and what founders, CFOs, and GTM teams need to know to stay ahead of the curve. Key Topics Covered What Is AI ARR? Understand how public companies define AI-based recurring revenue and what makes it distinct from traditional ARR or subscription ARR. Case Study: Verint's AI ARR Disclosure Learn how Verint, a customer and communication automation platform, separates AI ARR from Subscription ARR, and why AI now accounts for 50% of its recurring revenue. Run Rate vs. Recognized Revenue Explore the concept of “annualized quarterly run rate” and why some AI ARR definitions include overages and signed (but not yet active) SaaS contracts. Why AI ARR Matters for SaaS Metrics & Board Reporting Discover how AI ARR can become a key growth driver metric, especially for AI-first SaaS platforms or tools with significant AI adoption. Benchmarking and Financial Transparency Trends Understand why SaaS companies are simplifying metric reporting and focusing on high-signal KPIs like AI ARR for investors and stakeholders. Who Should Listen This episode is a must-listen for: SaaS founders and CEOs scaling AI-powered platforms CFOs and FP&A teams defining KPIs for board decks SaaS investors tracking AI monetization trends RevOps and metrics leaders modernizing dashboards Anyone serious about becoming a SaaS metrics expert Why This Episode Matters As SaaS businesses race to integrate and monetize AI, understanding how to measure, disclose, and leverage AI ARR could be your edge in strategic planning, fundraising, or M&A. SaaS Metrics School isn't just about numbers—it's about empowering you to lead with data. Subscribe & Follow Never miss an insight from the top SaaS metrics podcast. Join our SaaS community. https://www.thesaasacademy.com/offers/ivNjwYDx/checkout Subscribe to Ben's SaaS newsletter: https://mailchi.mp/df1db6bf8bca/the-saas-cfo-sign-up-landing-page
Software-as-a-service business acquisitions are in trouble. What is responsible for a downward trend in multiples and acquisition dollar amounts? It has a lot to do with AI, but it may not be what you think.I recently recorded an in-depth session for Rob Walling's SaaS Launchpad. This module is called AI in SaaS, and I share over a dozen pitfalls, unobvious risks, and hard-earned insights from my own AI SaaS building journey. The course was already great, but... you know... ;) Use the code ARVID150 to get $150 off until June 8th.The blog post: https://thebootstrappedfounder.com/ai-is-a-threat-to-saas-multiples/ The podcast episode: https://tbf.fm/episodes/393-ai-is-a-threat-to-saas-multiplesCheck out Podscan, the Podcast database that transcribes every podcast episode out there minutes after it gets released: https://podscan.fmSend me a voicemail on Podline: https://podline.fm/arvidYou'll find my weekly article on my blog: https://thebootstrappedfounder.comPodcast: https://thebootstrappedfounder.com/podcastNewsletter: https://thebootstrappedfounder.com/newsletterMy book Zero to Sold: https://zerotosold.com/My book The Embedded Entrepreneur: https://embeddedentrepreneur.com/My course Find Your Following: https://findyourfollowing.comHere are a few tools I use. Using my affiliate links will support my work at no additional cost to you.- Notion (which I use to organize, write, coordinate, and archive my podcast + newsletter): https://affiliate.notion.so/465mv1536drx- Riverside.fm (that's what I recorded this episode with): https://riverside.fm/?via=arvid- TweetHunter (for speedy scheduling and writing Tweets): http://tweethunter.io/?via=arvid- HypeFury (for massive Twitter analytics and scheduling): https://hypefury.com/?via=arvid60- AudioPen (for taking voice notes and getting amazing summaries): https://audiopen.ai/?aff=PXErZ- Descript (for word-based video editing, subtitles, and clips): https://www.descript.com/?lmref=3cf39Q- ConvertKit (for email lists, newsletters, even finding sponsors): https://convertkit.com?lmref=bN9CZw
Vertical SaaS customers don't buy software for 10 months, they buy it for 10 years. That's the opportunity and the challenge. Switching costs are high, which makes it hard to get in but once you're in, you're in.But regular SaaS playbooks don't work here. Forget PLG. Forget design partners. These industries have been burned too many times by bad software. Here, Trust defines GTM. Think warm introductions and on-site meetings, not cold emails and Zoom calls.But for founders building in vertical SaaS, there's little to learn from. So in this episode of The Neon Show, we bring together three founders who are building in the trenches of Vertical SaaS.Omkar Patil, Co-founder of Pienomial, helping biopharma companies run faster clinical research and unlock insights from complex drug data.Kumar Siddhartha, Co-founder of Merlin, rebuilding ERP from the ground up for the US construction industry.Divyaanshu Makkar, Co-founder of WizCommerce, modernising sales and commerce tools for wholesale distributors.If you're building SaaS for niche markets or wondering why traditional playbooks are failing, this episode is for you.0:00- Pienomial X WizCommerce X Merlin0:51 – What are we building in Vertical SaaS?4:29 – Vertical SaaS buyers are sticky by nature6:57 – How to build for industries used to Below-Par Tech?10:46 – Fix what your customer hated about the last vendor12:17 – Why these industries pay billions for implementation?13:38 – How we got our First customers?20:03 – Warm intros and word-of-mouth still win23:56 – Why Design Partners don't work in Vertical SaaS?27:17 – Why you should never sell your first product for free?30:29 – Can you Co-build products with early customers?34:33 – Building Your Own Platform Vs Building on Top of one39:33 – Building alongside Legacy players or innovating around them?44:31 – SaaS isn't going anywhere, AI will amplify it46:49 – Can AI agents really be reliable?48:42 – Which roles shouldn't be automated?52:16 – How to approach GTM where users guide you?54:43 – Why trust is everything here?58:54 – How to sell softwares used for 10 years?1:01:02 – How to win when the product demo comes last?1:03:16 – Why NOW for traditional industries with unsolved problems1:09:17 – Thoughts on agentic workflows1:13:02 – Why be Bearish on the “AI Employee Concept”?1:16:57 – Rapid Fire : Google or Perplexity?1:17:37 – LLMs: Open-source or Closed?1:18:19 – Favorite work software + We're hiring!1:19:42 – One business buzzword that should disappear1:20:55 – A Vertical SaaS company we admire (and why)-------------India's talent has built the world's tech—now it's time to lead it.This mission goes beyond startups. It's about shifting the center of gravity in global tech to include the brilliance rising from India.What is Neon Fund?We invest in seed and early-stage founders from India and the diaspora building world-class Enterprise AI companies. We bring capital, conviction, and a community that's done it before.Subscribe for real founder stories, investor perspectives, economist breakdowns, and a behind-the-scenes look at how we're doing it all at Neon.-------------Check us out on:Website: https://neon.fund/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theneonshoww/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/beneon/Twitter: https://x.com/TheNeonShowwConnect with Siddhartha on:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/siddharthaahluwalia/Twitter: https://x.com/siddharthaa7-------------This video is for informational purposes only. The views expressed are thosSend us a text
Realtime Robotics is transforming manufacturing through AI-powered robotics automation, having raised $70 million to build a SaaS platform that enables system integrators to deploy robotic solutions in half the time with half the labor. In this episode of Category Visionaries, we sat down with Peter Howard, CEO of Realtime Robotics, to explore his journey from multiple successful IPOs to tackling one of manufacturing's most persistent challenges: making robotics deployment economically viable and operationally reliable. Topics Discussed: The evolution from hardware-based robotics solutions to cloud-based SaaS platforms Realtime Robotics' position within the product lifecycle management software category The gap between robotics hype and production reality in manufacturing environments Strategic pivots and market repositioning based on customer feedback and industry resistance The challenge of selling transformational technology to risk-averse manufacturing organizations Deterministic AI for robotics versus probabilistic AI for language models
This week on The AI Report, Liam Lawson is joined by Peter, a startup coach and product strategist who's helped dozens of early-stage founders avoid one of the most costly mistakes in tech: building before validating.Peter explains why most startup ideas fail not because the tech doesn't work, but because there's no real demand. He shares the “sandwich method” he uses to get honest, useful feedback in discovery calls, and how founders can avoid building in a vacuum.They also explore the role AI is starting to play in validation workflows—and why it can't replace true customer insight.Also in this episode: • Why product-market fit is not a feeling • How to structure conversations to get real signal • The biggest lies founders tell themselves during early validation • How to use AI tools in discovery without getting misled • Why humility might be the most valuable founder skillIf you're building anything new—especially in AI or SaaS—this episode is a sharp, tactical reset.Subscribe to The AI Report:https://theaireport.beehiiv.com/subscribeJoin the community:https://www.skool.com/the-ai-report-community/aboutChapters:(00:00) Misunderstanding Product Validation(01:15) Who Peter Works With and Why(03:40) The Sandwich Method for Better Discovery(06:05) What He Learned From YC and Startup #1(08:12) Founders as Pattern Matchers(10:33) Detecting and Avoiding Bias(13:00) Identifying Real Market Demand(15:18) The Feature Fallacy(17:50) AI Tools vs Product Necessity(19:36) Where AI Can (and Can't) Help(21:44) Advice for Founders on Day Zero(23:50) Why Peter Keeps Coaching(26:04) Where to Find Him
In this episode, Andreas Munk Holm sits down with Kamel Zeroual, GP of Varsity, one of Europe's boldest new funds out of Paris. Varsity is making waves—not just for their ambition to build a pan-European fund with global aspirations, but for already closing €120M+ toward a first-time fund targeting €150M.Kam breaks down what makes Varsity different: a team with deep operator and investor experience, a track record spanning over 100 startups, and an agnostic but conviction-led strategy focused on next-gen SaaS, fintech, healthtech, and climate.
Nick Naso is the Chief Revenue Officer at Recurly, a leading subscription management and billing platform that helps businesses automate and optimize recurring revenue operations. With over 15 years of experience in the software and technology industry, he has built high-performing teams and led strategic initiatives to drive significant growth. Before joining Recurly, Nick served as Chief Revenue Officer at Cayuse, where he led the global sales organization and helped the company achieve record revenue growth through new customer sales and geographic expansion. In this episode… Understanding your ideal customer profile can make or break your B2B SaaS growth strategy. Without clarity around who you're selling to, it's easy to waste time, miss revenue targets, and stall your momentum. So how often should companies revisit and refine their ICP to keep pace with a fast-changing market? According to Nick Naso, a seasoned revenue leader with deep experience in scaling SaaS companies, companies should formally reevaluate their ICP at least once or twice a year. He highlights the importance of ongoing data analysis to inform micro-adjustments before larger shifts are needed. This kind of consistent review ensures sales teams focus on high-fit prospects and avoid spending resources on poor matches. The result is tighter alignment, faster sales cycles, and stronger pipeline efficiency. He also emphasizes that fit is everything: the right customer at the right time drives not only sales, but long-term success. In this episode of the Revenue Engine Podcast, host Alex Gluz is joined by Nick Naso, Chief Revenue Officer at Recurly, to discuss why a sharp ICP is central to B2B SaaS growth. They explore how to identify ICP signals from pipeline data, when to make structural changes in your team to match your market, and why sales success starts with strategic focus. Nick also shares insights on leading cross-functional teams and building a culture of revenue ownership.
Nenad Pavlov is an ex-programmer turned into outbound sales expert. Today he's into public speaker, lecturing, and business advice.He's had the pleasure of serving companies from different industries: IT and marketing services, SaaS, industrial machinery, ground transportation, and sterile mosquito producers, to name a few.Hiring sales people? - get the SDR Interview Guide with exact questions to recognize TOP performers: https://sdrhire.com/sdr-interview-guide/Learn more about Nenad's business: https://simplygrow.co/Connect with Nenad on LI: / nenad-pavlov Connect with Stefan on LinkedIn: / stefan-conic
If you're still trying to “figure out AI” in the cracks of an overloaded week, you're not alone. Most SaaS consultants are stuck waiting—for platforms like Salesforce or HubSpot to release perfect features, or for clients to ask the right questions. Meanwhile, the biggest margin opportunity in years is passing by.In this solo episode, I share how I stay ahead of the AI curve—so you don't have to. You'll get my exact system for learning fast, my favorite channels, podcasts, and masterminds, and how I turn it all into team-ready playbooks and custom GPTs. If you want AI insights that actually make you money (without falling down rabbit holes), this episode is for you.Resources and LinksCheck out our Mentoring programJoin our newsletterList of Custom ChatGPTsJames SchramkoRick MulreadyJeff SuRob the AI GuySkill Leap AIAI Business Plans with DougPodcasts: Leveraging AI, The AI Explored PodcastMultiply AIThe AI PlaybookLinkedIn AI Mastery LabPrevious episode: 613 - Turn AI Chaos Into Client Results—Fast with Kate vanderVoortCheck out more episodes of The Paul Higgins PodcastSubscribe to our YouTube channel: @PaulHigginsMentoringSuggested resources
In this conversation, Tyler and Rick discuss various topics ranging from personal experiences with parenting and reading habits to business growth strategies and the integration of AI in their respective companies. They explore the challenges of managing growth, the importance of understanding customer needs, and the potential of AI to enhance efficiency and customer experience. The discussion also touches on the significance of vertical integration and the future of AI in business, emphasizing the need for companies to be prepared for technological advancements while maintaining a focus on customer service.Chapters00:00 Parenting and Sleep Challenges03:29 Reading Habits and Fantasy Literature06:32 Business Growth and Revenue Updates09:21 Form Metrics and Marketing Strategies12:17 Internal Use Cases and New Features15:23 Exploring Industry-Specific CRM Opportunities21:22 Future of CRM and Industry Integration28:57 Navigating Software Integration Challenges32:34 The AI Dilemma: To Adopt or Not?37:13 AI Readiness: Preparing for the Future39:38 Revenue Metrics and AI Efficiency50:28 Exploring AI Opportunities in Customer Experience
In this episode, Paul Barnhurst sits down with Paul Lynch, the energetic and straightforward CEO of Centage. They dive into what makes great FP&A in today's world and why so many companies are still stuck with outdated tools and bad habits. From growing startups to leading mature SaaS businesses, Paul shares lessons learned, mistakes made, and why data, not gut instinct, is what really drives success. You'll hear why Excel refuses to die, how sales and finance can (and should) work better together, and why chasing growth without understanding your numbers is a recipe for disaster. Paul Lynch has spent his career leading B2B software companies and helping them scale with better decision-making tools. He's been CEO at Assembla and Import.io, and now heads up Centage, a modern FP&A platform. Originally from Dublin and now living in Texas, Paul brings a mix of humor, experience, and blunt truths about finance, growth, and leadership. He's also a former whiskey salesman in South Africa, a passionate cook, and a lifelong Liverpool fan. Expect to Learn:Why reporting is not just planning should be the core of FP&A.How poor unit economics can quietly destroy your business.Why hiring data people early matters more than sales or recruiters.The lasting dominance of Excel and what that says about innovation.How Paul's early sales career in South Africa shaped his leadership style.Here are a few quotes from the episode:“We need to stop worshipping Excel and start building tools for the next 40 years.” - Paul LynchMany companies chase growth without even knowing if they're making or losing money.” - Paul Lynch“The moment you think you know more than your customer, your business starts to fail.” - Paul LynchPaul brings energy, candor, and real-world perspective to a topic that's often bogged down in spreadsheets and jargon. This episode is a must-listen for finance professionals who want to rethink how they use data, sharpen their business instincts, or learn from someone who's built and led through both booms and busts. If you've ever questioned how to grow responsibly, build a smarter team, or move beyond Excel, Paul's insights will challenge your thinking and leave you with practical takeaways to act on.Corporate Finance Institute: Master real-world finance skills with CFI's FMVA program to learn financial modeling, valuations, and strategic insights top finance teams use. Get 30% off any plan and take the next step in your career. Explore now at https://corporatefinanceinstitute.com/pricing-FP&A guy/?utm_source=FP&A guy&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=podcast_adsFollow FP&A Tomorrow:Newsletter - Subscribe on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/build-relation/newsletter-follow?entityUrn=6957679529595162624 Follow Paul Lynch:LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/paulglynch/Website - https://www.centage.com/Follow Paul: Website - https://www.theFP&A ndaguy.com LinkedIn -
In episode #283, I address some recent conversations with SaaS founders who implemented my SaaS P&L format. In one instance, it was key to a successful exit. - How early should you implement the SaaS P&L - Make your data easily consumable for potential acquirors How to Structure Your SaaS P&L: https://www.thesaascfo.com/how-to-structure-your-saas-pl/ Join our SaaS community. https://www.thesaasacademy.com/offers/ivNjwYDx/checkout Subscribe to Ben's SaaS newsletter: https://mailchi.mp/df1db6bf8bca/the-saas-cfo-sign-up-landing-page
In this episode of Fintech Layer Cake, host Reggie Young speaks with Matt Brown, early-stage investor at Matrix Partners and former product leader at Afterpay.Matt dives into the evolving landscape of vertical SaaS, why embedded fintech still has massive untapped potential, and how PE and VC are converging to create new opportunities. He also shares lessons from founding Bonsai, including counterintuitive insights about customer feedback and learning rate. They cover founder-investor dynamics, the future of BNPL, and Matt's writing process behind his popular “X topic in 1,000 words” series.If you're building in fintech, SaaS, or just want to understand the deeper trends shaping both, this is a must-listen.
#updateai #customersuccess #saas #businessJoin host Josh Schachter, Co-Founder & CEO of UpdateAI, as he sits down with Cait Keohane, the Chief Customer Officer of Airtable, to explore the art of scaling world-class post-sale experiences. Cait shares her incredible journey from being one of the early employees at Zendesk and helping grow the company into a multibillion-dollar powerhouse, to stepping into her new leadership role at Airtable. Together, they explore what it takes to build robust customer management systems from the ground up, the importance of listening directly to customers, and how organizations can balance high-touch service with operational efficiency.Timestamps00:00 – Preview, Meet Cait Keohane & Learn About Airtable01:30 – Cait's Journey at Zendesk03:15 – Building Customer Success and Account Management at Zendesk07:50 – Joining Airtable as CCO08:50 – First 90 Days at Airtable: Priorities and Execution13:10 – Feedback and Voice of Customer Mechanisms15:00 – Renewal Management and Risk Mitigation19:38 – Delivering Personalized Experiences at Scale21:50 – Platform Complexity and Change Management24:50 – The Role of MVP Users and Power Builders in Scaling26:51 – Closing Thoughts and Future Outlook___________________________
Today, we explore the intersection of leadership, product strategy, and platform transformation with Travis Hess, CEO of BigCommerce. As the company navigates a focused shift toward B2B, curated composability, and revenue-first outcomes, Travis unpacks how BigCommerce is redefining its ideal customer profile, integrating key acquisitions, and leading change in a public SaaS environment. He shares the mindset required to execute the high-stakes transformation, why serving everyone is a trap, and how clarity, optionality, and organizational agility power long-term success. Tune in for actionable insights on composable commerce, AI-driven productivity, and what it takes to lead through complexity at scale. This conversation arrives at a pivotal moment: BigCommerce is announcing discussions to expand its commercial partnership with Noibu. The proposed integration would streamline how merchants detect and resolve revenue-impacting issues, enabling faster innovation and frictionless performance monitoring — all without complex contracting or integration delays.
SaaStr 804: AI and The Future of Sales, Marketing & CS with HubSpot CEO Yamini Rangan Join us as HubSpot's CEO Yamini Rangan delves into the dynamic landscape of SaaS, discussing the rapid transformations driven by AI. In this insightful session, Yamini shares her experience with pivoting HubSpot's roadmap after the advent of ChatGPT, the increasing role of AI in product development, and the evolving customer expectations. Gain valuable insights into creating urgency, leveraging AI to enhance productivity, and the importance of a unified partner ecosystem. Perfect for entrepreneurs and SaaS founders, this episode underscores the necessity of adaptability, curiosity, and a growth mindset in today's tech industry. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This episode of the SaaStr podcast is sponsored by: Attio This episode is brought to you by Attio — the AI-native CRM. Connect your email, and Attio instantly builds a powerful CRM - with every company, contact and interaction you've ever had. Get 15% off your first year at https://attio.com/saastr -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This episode of the SaaStr podcast is sponsored by: Attention.com Tired of listening to hours of sales calls? Recording is yesterday's game. Attention.com unleashes an army of AI sales agents that auto-update your CRM, build custom sales decks, spot cross-sell signals, and score calls before your coffee's cold. Teams like BambooHR and Scale AI already automate their Sales and RevOps using customer conversations. Step into the future at attention.com/saastr --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
In this episode of the Goats of Growth podcast, I had the pleasure of interviewing Candidate 7, who shares his unique career journey from military service to cybersecurity sales. We discuss the importance of channel sales, valuable career advice, and how he balances work with family life. Candidate 7 reflects on facing setbacks, seeking new opportunities, and the impact of recommendations in the job market. He outlines his ideal job description and expresses openness to roles beyond cybersecurity, highlighting the importance of SaaS. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to the Goats of Growth Podcast 01:06 Unique Career Journey 04:52 The Importance of Channel Sales 06:33 Valuable Career Advice: Visit Customers 09:11 Balancing Work and Family Life 11:51 Facing Setbacks and Personal Growth 13:25 Seeking New Opportunities 15:37 The Value of Recommendations 17:10 Ideal Job Description for Future Roles 20:42 Open to Opportunities Beyond Cybersecurity 21:48 Compensation Expectations 22:57 Career Advice for the Next Generation
Episode Description:James reconnects with entrepreneurs Michael and Kass Lazerow, whose journey spans selling Golf.com for $24 million, launching and pivoting Buddy Media into a $700 million Salesforce acquisition, and now investing in breakout brands like Liquid Death. This episode isn't about startup clichés—it's about emotional resilience, firing with kindness, how marriage can (barely) survive co-founding, and how to spot a trend before the world does.They break down their “Go Gauge,” the six-part test they use before investing in a company. They talk about the trauma of being betrayed by family. And they reveal the surprisingly simple cheat codes they've used to keep building—and keep loving each other—across decades of risk. Whether you're building a business, looking for one good idea, or wondering what failure really feels like behind closed doors—this episode will give you a few new answers.What You'll Learn:Why transparency—not optimism—is a founder's best crisis toolThe six traits every idea needs to pass their “Go Gauge”How to fire someone with empathy and still tell them the truthWhat to do when your startup fails and the investors vanishWhy the best startup strategy might be launching a pizza shopTimestamped Chapters:[00:00] Bacon, milkshakes, and a first meeting[03:00] The Golf.com collapse and family betrayal[07:30] The psychology of failure and the will not to quit[12:00] Buddy Media's pivot: from Facebook games to SaaS[15:00] Why failure sucks—but trends are your friend[21:00] Surviving marriage while surviving a startup[26:00] Emotional awareness, therapy, and not “shining the turd”[33:00] The $500M pizza truck startup fail[38:00] The truth about hiring, firing, and reorganizing[44:00] The death of venture capital—and rise of bootstrapping[50:00] Investing in pets, ice cream, and par-3 golf[54:00] Why Liquid Death is a billion-dollar brand[57:00] The Go Gauge: 6 filters for a fundable idea[01:02:00] Friendship, failure, and why they finally wrote the bookAdditional Resources:
What if your next stream of passive income came from a faceless YouTube channel or a website you didn't build? In today's conversation, the financial coaches reveal how online businesses can replace your paycheck and why now is the ideal time to invest in them. Joey shares his results from a $25K investment, and Ben outlines which models offer the fastest wins for hustlers. Mark explains how analytics and systems can optimize these ventures from the very start. Meanwhile, Russ emphasizes the value of digital businesses as a modern-day strategy for building passive income and avoiding traditional job traps.Tune in as they break down strategies for acquiring faceless YouTube channels, affiliate sites, and other online assets that generate revenue without you doing any additional work.Top three things you will learn:-How to match your investor DNA to the right type of online business-Why faceless YouTube channels can be a low-drama path to cash flow-The first three steps to take if you're ready to get started Disclaimer: The opinions expressed on this podcast are solely those of the hosts and guests and do not constitute financial advice. Always consult a licensed professional for financial decisions.This episode is sponsored by a podcast show partner. We may receive compensation if you use links or services mentioned in this episode.The hosts may have a financial interest in the programs or services mentioned in this episode.How to Buy Online Businesses for Profit with Sophie Howard:-https://wealthwithoutwallstreet.com/freedomnavigatorFlippa - Best for beginners, with listings under $10K and a Zillow-like experience for browsing digital assets:-https://flippa.com/Empire Flippers - A curated platform with vetted online businesses:-https://empireflippers.com/Acquire.com - Focuses on SaaS and content businesses:-https://acquire.com/Website Closers - For more established and higher-revenue online businesses:-https://www.websiteclosers.com/Book Your Free Passive Income Game Plan Session:-https://wealthwithoutwallstreet.com/freecallWant to raise millionaire kids? Watch how Sharran Srivatsaa — former Goldman Sachs banker turned entrepreneur and investor — is building a generational wealth system with his kids, step-by-step.-https://go.wealthwithoutwallstreet.com/millionaire-kidsTurn Active Income Into Passive Income:-https://wealthwithoutwallstreet.com/piosKnow Your Investor DNA:-https://wealthwithoutwallstreet.com/investordnaCreate a Six-Figure Side Hustle in Peer-to-Peer Car-Sharing:-
From the archive: This episode was originally recorded and published in 2022. Our interviews on Entrepreneurs On Fire are meant to be evergreen, and we do our best to confirm that all offers and URL's in these archive episodes are still relevant. Simon helps business owners in SaaS and services run their company more effectively, which results in sales that soar. He created the Strategy Sprints Method that doubles revenue in 90 days by getting owners out of the weeds. Simon is a TEDx speaker, Contributor to Forbes and Entrepreneur Magazine, and member of the Silicon Valley Blockchain Society. Top 3 Value Bombs 1. Less is more. 2. Don't do everything at once. 3. Whatever you think right now, even if it's hard, just keep rolling. It's not about winning the game all the time. It's about staying in the game, learning, and to keep on moving. Check it out on Amazon - Strategy Sprints: 12 Ways to Accelerate Growth for an Agile Business Sponsors ThriveTime Show - Attend the world's highest rated business growth workshop taught personally by Clay Clark and now featuring Football Star, Tim Tebow, and President Trump's son, Eric Trump, at ThrivetimeShow.com/eofire. Northwest Registered Agent - Don't wait. Protect your privacy, build your brand and set up your business in just 10 clicks in 10 minutes. Visit NorthwestRegisteredAgent.com/fire and start building something amazing.