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#760 What if your favorite form of procrastination could be the key to your next million-dollar business? That's exactly what happened to Jacques Hopkins, an electrical engineer who turned his frustration with traditional piano lessons — and his love for a better, simpler way to play — into Piano in 21 Days, an online course that has generated millions in revenue. In this episode hosted by Kirsten Tyrrel, Jacques shares how he went from building circuits to building a thriving course business in a non-money-making niche. You'll learn how he found his unique value proposition, why you don't need to be the top expert to start teaching, and his three-phase method for creating not just a course — but a full-fledged course business. We also explore how to overcome imposter syndrome, build an audience the smart way, and design a business that supports the lifestyle you want! (Original Air Date - 6/1/25) What we discuss with Jacques: + Turning hobbies into businesses + Unique value proposition importance + Teaching without being an expert + Online course validation strategies + B2B vs. B2C course models + Building a course business + Avoiding the learning loop trap + Audience-first content strategy + Why focus beats many offers + Creating systems for freedom Thank you, Jacques! Check out Piano in 21 Days at Pianoin21Days.com. Check out The Online Course Guy at TheOnlineCourseGuy.com. Watch the video podcast of this episode! To get access to our FREE Business Training course go to MillionaireUniversity.com/training. To get exclusive offers mentioned in this episode and to support the show, visit millionaireuniversity.com/sponsors. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Joel chats with a trailblazer who doesn't just challenge the status quo-he lights it on fire and hands you the match. His name is Joe Pulizzi, an award-winning B2B strategist who has been rewriting the rules of business for two decades and counting. Known as the Godfather of Content Marketing, Joe is a serial entrepreneur, philanthropist and 10-time bestselling author whose latest work, Burn the Playbook, is a blueprint for freedom on your own terms. Because if the world the rules were written for no longer longer exists…it's time we stop playing by them.Website: https://www.joepulizzi.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/joepulizzi/?hl=en Twitter: https://x.com/JoePulizzi Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/JoePulizziAuthorCheck out the conversation on YouTube: https://youtu.be/-OB-uWJ_Uv0
About Rasmus Holst:Rasmus Holst is the CEO of Zensai (formerly LMS365), where he built a learning management business from $0–30M ARR, bootstrapped, completed three acquisitions, and pioneered the “Human Success” category as a replacement for Human Resources. He has been part of management teams delivering exits just shy of $1bn, raised +$50m for companies like Wire and Huddle, and worked across PE-backed (Carlyle, Warburg Pincus) and VC-funded (General Atlantic, Index, Vertex, Morpheus, Iconical) environments.His experience spans scaling start-ups from zero revenue, operating +$300M Lines of Business at Syniverse, and leading branding and B2B storytelling efforts, including Zensai's Red Dot Award and Great Place to Work recognition. Rasmus has managed global teams across 14 countries, traveled to +100 nations, and lived in Denmark, Luxembourg, and San Francisco, making him a leader with a uniquely international view on culture, growth, and balance. In this episode, Dean Newlund and Rasmus Holst discuss:Turning HR into Human Success and redefining what organizations measureLinking performance, learning, and engagement into one real-time scoreFeedback rituals and kudos culture as engines of team identityMeasuring soft skills through sentiment and peer behaviorAI as a teammate that amplifies human contribution instead of replacing it Key Takeaways:Replace annual HR lag metrics with weekly human success check-ins tied to learning, performance, and engagement.Institutionalize positive feedback (e.g., weekly kudos) to normalize critique, build confidence, and surface soft-skill leaders.Track soft skills through peer sentiment and recognition patterns rather than relying solely on manager evaluations.Use generationally agnostic baselines (showing up as a good human and delivering success) to align multicultural/global teams. "There's a high correlation between people who get a lot of kudos and those who are really good at a lot of soft skills.” — Rasmus Holst Connect with Rasmus Holst: Website: https://zensai.com/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rasmusholst/ See Dean's TedTalk “Why Business Needs Intuition” here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEq9IYvgV7I Connect with Dean:YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgqRK8GC8jBIFYPmECUCMkwWebsite: https://www.mfileadership.com/The Mission Statement E-Newsletter: https://www.mfileadership.com/blog/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/deannewlund/X (Twitter): https://twitter.com/deannewlundFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/MissionFacilitators/Email: dean.newlund@mfileadership.comPhone: 1-800-926-7370 Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it.
Everybody talks about creativity, but very few are willing to measure it. The real advantage comes from combining imagination with obsession.That's the lesson of MrBeast, the YouTube creator who turned data-driven storytelling into one of the most powerful media brands in the world. In this episode, we explore his marketing playbook with the help of our special guest Rodrigo Fontes, VP of Marketing at QuillBot.Together, we break down what B2B marketers can learn from engineering audience retention, building repeatable content formats, and investing just a little more effort to create work people can't look away from.About our guest, Rodrigo FontesRodrigo Fonte is the VP of Marketing at Quillbot. He is a strategic marketing leader with over 15 years of experience building and scaling brands across both B2C and B2B markets. Rodrigo is currently driving growth in Generative AI and consumer tech at QuillBot (Learneo). He's also leading the global marketing organization behind one of the world's most widely used AI writing assistants, overseeing Brand, Media, Influencers, Social, SEO, ASO, Content, Product Marketing, and International Expansion.What B2B Companies Can Learn From MrBeast:Obsess over audience retention, not just reach. MrBeast doesn't just aim for views, he studies exactly where attention drops and rebuilds content accordingly. Rodrigo says, “His data-driven customer obsession on every detail to make things work, I think that's such an amazing thing for us marketers today to think [about].” B2B teams should move beyond impressions and focus on where prospects lose interest and why. Analyze content the same way you analyze funnels. Retention is the real signal of relevance.Show people something they've never seen before. Originality is MrBeast's core advantage. He doesn't just execute well, he starts with ideas audiences haven't encountered. Rodrigo reminds us, “The fight for attention is brutal today.” If your content looks like your competitors', it's already invisible. Massive budgets aren't required to execute original ideas, as MrBeast proved in his early viral videos. Novelty is a priceless strategic asset.Use culture as a creative multiplier. MrBeast often revamps formats by tapping into existing cultural moments (e.g., Squid Game, Willy Wonka). Rodrigo points out, “He can really revamp a format if he adds culture to [it].” B2B strategy doesn't have to reinvent the wheel. Tie your ideas to what your audience already cares about instead of forcing attention from scratch.Quote“ Go deeper on what really, already has the attention of your target audience, instead of starting from scratch. What are they paying attention to already?”Time Stamps[01:03] Meet Rodrigo Fontes, VP of Marketing at QuillBot[02:13] Why MrBeast?[09:07] Why His Content Works[16:58] The Power of Effort and Originality[22:05] Repeatable Formats and Serialized Content[29:20] Lessons from Branded Content and Influencers[42:45] QuillBot's Content Strategy[47:56] Advice for Marketing Leaders[51:12] Final Thoughts and TakeawaysLinksConnect with Rodrigo on LinkedInLearn more about QuillBotAbout Remarkable!Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction and fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at CaspianStudios.com. In today's episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
In this episode, Ian sits down with Henry Wagner, Chief Marketing Officer at Megaport, to explore how marketing teams can earn attention in increasingly crowded and skeptical B2B markets.Henry shares why Megaport invests in unconventional campaigns, like building an eight-bit video game to celebrate a major company milestone, and how smaller, calculated bets often outperform large, high-risk sponsorships. He breaks down his philosophy of “doing science, not alchemy” in marketing, emphasizing rigorous testing, learning, and iteration over narrative-driven guesswork.Key Takeaways:Creative risk is easier to justify when bets are small and frequent. Contained experiments often deliver outsized attention with limited downside.Great marketing teams run science, not alchemy. Measurement, iteration, and learning beat intuition and narrative.LLMs change discovery, but not the need for authority. Clear, structured, problem-focused content still wins—measurement just looks different.Episode Timestamps: *(14:16) The Trust Tree: *(17:56) The Playbook: *(46:32) Quick Hits: Sponsor:Pipeline Visionaries is brought to you by Qualified.com. Qualified helps you turn your website into a pipeline generation machine with PipelineAI. Engage and convert your most valuable website visitors with live chat, chatbots, meeting scheduling, intent data, and Piper, your AI SDR. Visit Qualified.com to learn more.Links:Connect with Ian on LinkedInConnect with Henry on LinkedInLearn more about MegaportLearn more about Caspian Studios Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
What if one focused hour a day could dramatically shorten your sales cycle, increase top-of-mind awareness, and help your entire team generate revenue without burning you out? In this episode, Kelly breaks down the Miracle Hour, a timeless daily sales system she designed to help entrepreneurs acquire customers faster, create consistency, and monetize their teams more effectively. Whether you sell high-ticket offers, run a local business, or lead a multi-department organization, the Miracle Hour can be adapted to fit your goals, your industry, and your growth stage. Kelly walks through real world applications of the Miracle Hour across industries: from car dealerships and dental offices to corporate sales training companies and authors preparing for a book launch, showing why this system works in any economy and on any platform. You'll learn how consistent daily inputs can compress what used to be year-long sales cycles into days, how to organize your Dream 1000 for maximum efficiency, and how to plug your team into a revenue-generating system that gives you back time, freedom, and focus. Plus, Kelly shares an exciting announcement about the upcoming Miracle Hour audiobook, book, and docuseries, and how you can get early access for free. Timestamps: 0:00 – 0:46 Why the Miracle Hour compresses long sales cycles into days 0:46 – 1:28 What the Miracle Hour really is (and why it creates efficiency and freedom) 1:28 – 2:04 Why the Miracle Hour works in any economy, industry, or offer type 2:04 – 4:30 Real-world example: How a car dealership can use the Miracle Hour to drive repeat and referral sales 4:30 – 5:57 Applying the Miracle Hour in corporate and B2B sales environments 5:57 – 7:22 Why the Miracle Hour is platform-agnostic (and how it worked before social media) 7:22 – 8:13 Using the Miracle Hour to land a book deal, PR, and promotional partnerships 8:13 – 9:09 Local business example: Leveraging the Miracle Hour for reviews and referrals 9:09 – 10:18 How frequency and consistency collapse your sales timeline 10:18 – 11:24 Using the Miracle Hour to sell high-ticket offers directly to market 11:24 – 12:29 Announcement: Early access to the Miracle Hour audiobook 12:29 – 13:31 Why the Miracle Hour is the key to monetizing your team 13:31 – 14:29 How CEOs use the Miracle Hour to reclaim time and step into their zone of genius Resources Learn the complete Miracle Hour system For FREE: https://accelerator.virtualbusinessschool.com/mhsocial Get access to our complete daily sales system for generating predictable revenue online inside the Virtual Business School: https://www.virtualbusinessschool.com/ Follow Kelly on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kellyroachofficial/ Follow Kelly on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/kelly.roach.520/ Connect on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kellyroachint/
Everyone assumes the Super Bowl is strictly for consumer giants with massive ad budgets, but that mindset is a huge missed opportunity for B2B marketers. Jay Schwedelson teams up with Daniel Murray to break down exactly how boring brands can ride the wave of the biggest cultural event of the year without spending a dime on commercials. They share specific keywords that trigger higher open rates during game week and explain why hyper-targeting the cities of the competing teams is the smartest play you can make.ㅤFollow Daniel on LinkedIn and check out The Marketing Millennials podcast for sharp, no-fluff marketing insights. Subscribe to Ari Murray's newsletter at gotomillions.co for sharp, actionable marketing insights.ㅤBest Moments:(01:25) Why Jay eats a "disgusting" salmon salad for lunch every day(02:24) Daniel's diet while playing D1 college football at Cincinnati(03:37) Why even the most boring B2B companies need to lean into the Super Bowl(04:45) How to use X (Twitter) during the game to find relevant memes for your brand(06:00) The specific subject line keywords like "MVP" and "QB" that spike engagement(07:15) A clever strategy to target prospects based on which teams make the big gameㅤCheck out Jay's YOUTUBE Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@schwedelsonCheck out Jay's TIKTOK: https://www.tiktok.com/@schwedelsonCheck Out Jay's INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/jayschwedelson/ㅤPre-order Jay Schwedelson's new book, Stupider People Have Done It (out April 21, 2026). All net proceeds are donated to The V Foundation for Cancer Research—let's kick cancer's butt: https://www.amazon.com/Stupider-People-Have-Done-Marketing/dp/1637635206
How do you keep in touch with old leads and old customers in your database? Or, how do you keep in touch with your family and friends? Our guest today is CEO/Founder of Warmstart, Dave Sifry, who has created a solution to help all of us do a better job of keeping those relationships with the people we care about.TODAY'S WIN-WIN:Missionaries or Mercenaries, decide which one you are and find others that are aligned with you.LINKS FROM THE EPISODE:Schedule your free franchise consultation with Big Sky Franchise Team: https://bigskyfranchiseteam.com/. You can visit our guest's website at: https://warmstart.ai/Attend our Franchise Sales Training Workshop: https://bigskyfranchiseteam.com/franchisesalestraining/Connect with our guests on social:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dsifry/ABOUT OUR GUEST:Dave Sifry is the founder and CEO of Warmstart, a platform built to help founders and executives grow through reconnecting with the people who know and love them, but haven't heard from them in a while! Warmstart centers on one idea: people move faster when their network works for them, so the product makes it easy to build and surface warm paths into customers, investors, and partners. Dave is a nine-time founder. He created Technorati, the world's largest blog search engine, and was an executive at Lyft and Reddit. Based in San Francisco, he has built multiple B2C and B2B companies, and has raised multiple rounds of venture funding, scaled teams, and led products used by millions. He has also been through hypergrowth at 3 different companies, giving him a view of how organizations succeed as they grow, and how relationships shape opportunities at every stage.ABOUT BIG SKY FRANCHISE TEAM:This episode is powered by Big Sky Franchise Team. If you are ready to talk about franchising your business you can schedule your free, no-obligation, franchise consultation online at: https://bigskyfranchiseteam.com/.The information provided in this podcast is for informational and educational purposes only and should not be considered financial, legal, or professional advice. Always consult with a qualified professional before making any business decisions. The views and opinions expressed by guests are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of the host, Big Sky Franchise Team, or our affiliates. Additionally, this podcast may feature sponsors or advertisers, but any mention of products or services does not constitute an endorsement. Please do your own research before making any purchasing or business decisions.
Watch the full episode on our YouTube channel: youtube.com/@mreapodcastTechnology isn't the magic bullet most real estate agents think it is—that's why this conversation matters.We're joined by David Voorhees, a real estate agent with more than 500 homes sold and the executive director of Labs at Keller Williams Realty, LLC. For the past eight years, David has spent his days interviewing top agents across the country, studying how technology helps them make more money and serve their clients better.David came into real estate after working in the Las Vegas nightclub scene. His experience taught him how to build trust fast, and he still carries these skills into open houses, database growth, and referral-driven business. Early on in his real estate career, he found himself at the center of Keller Williams' technology evolution, helping shape tools by starting with models and systems, not shiny objects.In true MREA fashion, this conversation brings us back to the fundamentals. David breaks down the Four Laws of Lead Generation, why most agents overcomplicate their tech stacks, and how a clean, well-fed database can outperform almost any new software. We also dig into AI as a practical thought partner, how to audit your current technology, and why the solutions most agents are searching for are already sitting in their database.If you've ever felt overwhelmed by real estate technology, this episode will simplify the path forward and give you a clear framework to run your business with confidence.Resources:Keller Williams Technology pageListen to an episode featuring Lauren Lucas on Automation and AIEmail David Voorhees at david.vorhees@kw.comGet Weekly MREA NotesOrder the Millionaire Real Estate Agent Playbook | Volume 3Connect with Jason:LinkedinInstagramProduced by NOVAThis podcast is for general informational purposes only. The views, thoughts, and opinions of the guest represent those of the guest and not Keller Williams Realty, LLC and its affiliates, and should not be construed as financial, economic, legal, tax, or other advice. This podcast is provided without any warranty, or guarantee of its accuracy, completeness, timeliness, or results from using the information.WARNING! You must comply with the TCPA and any other federal, state or local laws, including for B2B calls and texts. Never call or text a number on any Do Not Call list, and do not use an autodialer or artificial voice or prerecorded messages without proper consent. Contact your attorney to ensure your compliance.Any text or materials generated by artificial intelligence (AI) should be reviewed for accuracy and reliability as there may be errors, omissions, or inaccuracies. The use of generative AI is subject to limitations, including the availability and quality of the training data used to train the AI model used. Users should exercise caution and independently verify any information or output generated by the AI system utilized and should apply their own judgment and critical thinking when interpreting and utilizing the outputs of generative AI.
Nigel O'Neill is founder and CEO of Tarralugo, a UK-based consultancy which helps medium to large B2B clients use digital technologies to achieve their business goals. Connect with Jon Dwoskin: Twitter: @jdwoskin Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.dwoskin Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thejondwoskinexperience/ Website: https://jondwoskin.com/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jondwoskin/ Email: jon@jondwoskin.com Get Jon's Book: The Think Big Movement: Grow your business big. Very Big! Connect with Nigel O'Neill:Website: https://www.tarralugo.com/ Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nigel-o-neill-2802622/ *E – explicit language may be used in this podcast.
WBSRocks: Business Growth with ERP and Digital Transformation
Send us a textWhen evaluating the CRM category, our analysis intentionally moves beyond CRM modules embedded within ERP systems and instead focuses on best-of-breed CRM platforms and the full spectrum of capabilities that define modern customer engagement. This includes not only core operational CRM functions such as sales force automation and pipeline management, but also upstream marketing automation, downstream customer experience and service workflows, contact center operations, events, search, and the increasing convergence with CMS and website capabilities that anchor the digital customer journey. While vendors may brand these pillars as Sales Cloud, Marketing Cloud, or reposition them around AI- and agentic-workflow narratives, the underlying architecture remains consistent, and strategic orientation matters: some platforms are designed for specific micro-verticals with tightly integrated suites, while others pursue broad horizontal coverage. These choices materially affect extensibility, process design, and long-term fit, particularly across B2B versus B2C use cases, where many CRM systems struggle with complex B2B sales cycles—driving continued demand for low-code and no-code customization and deeper integration across CRM, eCommerce, and CMS ecosystems.In this episode, our host Sam Gupta discusses the top 10 CRM systems in 2026. He also discusses several variables that influence the rankings of these CRM systems. Finally, he shares the pros and cons of each CRM system.Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBLUBdDuWQcRead: https://www.elevatiq.com/post/top-erp-systems/Questions for Panelists?
Charli is joined on the podcast this week by Alex CairnsAlex is the Founder & CEO of multi-award-winning, integrated B2B agency Move Marketing based in Manchester (UK) and Chicago (USA). Over the course of 25 years, he has developed an eight-step framework (the “8 moves of B2B”) to ensure success in B2B marketing planning and strategy execution. These methodologies have been rigorously developed over the course of more than 200 marketing audit and planning processes for small and medium-sized manufacturers, typically with annual revenues of $10 million - $50 million. Move now uses this world class strategic planning framework to drive thought leadership positions and increase demand and profits for its global client base.Find us @EmpoweringPumps on Facebook, LinkedIn, Instagram and Twitter and using the hashtag #EmpoweringIndustryPodcast or via email podcast@empoweringpumps.com
很多人以為,照著合約履行工作就是專業,但在B2B的世界裡,專業能力的「問心無愧」並不等於客戶滿意。Bryan這集邀請到資深企業講師林宜璟(Jeffrey),他長年在台積電等頂尖企業授課,培育出無數的業務人才。Jeffrey將分享如何釐清客戶真正的問題與需求、區分 answer(技術解答)與 solution(商業解方)的不同,以及為何不被看見的績效,其實等於不存在。如果你想了解更多B2B客戶服務的心法與洞察,這集有許多外面聽不到的觀念,值得你收聽。 大人學課程 【限定場:B2B客訴處理實戰】 https://reurl.cc/0a0vLk 【限定場:B2B顧問式銷售技巧一日特訓】 https://reurl.cc/MM5j1X 什麼問題想問Joe跟Bryan嗎?提問&合作信箱:podcast@ftpm.com.tw 如果你喜歡我們的節目,歡迎贊助我們:https://bit.ly/3kskVsZ 如果你喜歡這集節目,歡迎到Apple Podcast給我們五星評價,並留言給我們鼓勵! FB|https://www.facebook.com/darencademy/ IG|https://www.instagram.com/da.ren.cademy/ 大人學網站|https://www.darencademy.com/ -- Hosting provided by SoundOn
AJ and Asad talk about one of the most insane job markets we've ever seen, the rise of AI agents, and the future of AI's talent wars. Thanks for tuning in! Catch new episodes every Sunday Subscribe to Topline Newsletter. Tune into Topline Podcast, the #1 podcast for founders, operators, and investors in B2B tech. Join the free Topline Slack channel to connect with 600+ revenue leaders to keep the conversation going beyond the podcast! Chapters: 00:00 Introduction and Hosts 00:32 The Golden Age of Sales 00:55 Sales Roles and AI 12:30 Branding vs. Performance Marketing 21:05 The Role of Brand in B2B Tech 30:18 The Notion Dilemma 40:40 The Importance of Letting Go 50:39 The Golden Era of Sales 59:59 Reading Tips and Longevity Investments
Two weeks ago, I ended up in the ER with a heart incident that knocked me completely out of commission. But instead of falling apart, my business didn't skip a beat—in fact, we had our best sales month in six years. In this episode, I break down the critical decision I made last year to stack my team with "A-players" and the specific system I used to find them. I also explore the uncomfortable truth about why believing you are "necessary" is actually the biggest cap on your business's growth, and how to finally get out of your own way.//Welcome to The Ray J. Green Show, your destination for tips on sales, strategy, and self-mastery from an operator, not a guru.About Ray:→ Former Managing Director of National Small & Midsize Business at the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, where he doubled revenue per sale in fundraising, led the first increase in SMB membership, co-built a national Mid-Market sales channel, and more.→ Former CEO operator for several investor groups where he led turnarounds of recently acquired small businesses.→ Current founder of MSP Sales Partners, where we currently help IT companies scale sales: www.MSPSalesPartners.com→ Current Sales & Sales Management Expert in Residence at the world's largest IT business mastermind.→ Current Managing Partner of Repeatable Revenue Ventures, where we scale B2B companies we have equity in: www.RayJGreen.com//Follow Ray on:YouTube | LinkedIn | Facebook | Twitter | Instagram
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John Corcoran is a recovering attorney, an author, and a former White House writer and speechwriter to the Governor of California. Throughout his career, John has worked in Hollywood, the heart of Silicon Valley, and run his boutique law firm in the San Francisco Bay Area, catering to small business owners and entrepreneurs. Since 2012, John has been the host of the Smart Business Revolution Podcast, where he has interviewed hundreds of CEOs, founders, authors, and entrepreneurs, including Peter Diamandis, Adam Grant, Gary Vaynerchuk, and Marie Forleo. John is also the Co-founder of Rise25, a company that connects B2B businesses with their ideal clients, referral partners, and strategic partners. They help their clients generate ROI through their done-for-you podcast service. In this episode… It's easy to get stuck obsessing over downloads, promotion tactics, and growth hacks before you ever hit publish. But what if the real key to podcast success has less to do with flashy marketing and more to do with how you show up and who you serve? How should podcasters actually think about promotion if they want results that matter? For John Corcoran, the key lies in not overcomplicating promotion before the podcast even exists. He explains that many people fall into analysis paralysis, worrying about promotion instead of launching, having real conversations, and letting the show evolve. His perspective reframes podcasting as a long-term relationship and partnership strategy, not a vanity numbers game, which ultimately leads to more meaningful growth and business impact Tune in to this episode of the Smart Business Revolution Podcast as Chad Franzen of Rise25 interviews John Corcoran about smart podcast promotion strategies. They discuss why launching matters more than over-optimizing, how guest-driven growth really works, and why staying within the same medium boosts results. John also delves into partnerships, positioning, and why downloads shouldn't be your main focus.
Young Entrepreneur John Magnor Shares B2B, SAAS and AI-Driven Business Success Strategies Youtube.com/@johnpmag About the Guest(s): John Magnor is a successful 24-year-old entrepreneur, primarily focused on building and scaling B2B companies, including software and service providers. With a career that began at 16, he has devoted himself over the past years to expand businesses through developing robust sales teams and streamlining marketing systems. John is the founder of Magner Equity Partners, aiming to create a portfolio of businesses scalable enough to be sold to private equity. His entrepreneurial journey is motivated by a passion for the business game and the art of marketing and sales. Episode Summary: In this riveting episode of The Chris Voss Show, host Chris Voss engages with John Magnor, a young yet remarkably proficient entrepreneur who has made significant impacts in the B2B industry. Broadcasting from Buenos Aires, John shares his journey from a 16-year-old eager to break norms to becoming a key player in software and service-associated entrepreneurship. This episode shines a light on John’s unique approach to scaling B2B companies, underlining the importance of sales and marketing in business growth. John Magnor narrates his story, highlighting foundational motivations stemming from personal needs and family influence. The discussion flows into the importance of learning sales and marketing, with Chris echoing the sentiment, noting their pivotal role in any business venture. The conversation naturally gravitates towards the future trajectory of businesses, exploring the intricacies of AI technology in revolutionizing traditional market landscapes. With an impressive track record and insightful perspectives, John discusses his investment strategies and shares an exclusive look into his upcoming project, Nova, an AI-driven sales trainer and role player. Key Takeaways: John Magnor started his entrepreneurial journey at a young age, driven by the desire to deviate from the norm and make a mark in the B2B scene by leveraging his skills in sales and marketing. Magnor Equity Partners focuses on helping businesses scale by refining their sales processes and marketing systems, aiming to add them to John's expanding portfolio. Artificial Intelligence (AI) is a crucial element in modern business strategies, offering unparalleled opportunities for growth and efficiency. The interplay between AI, sales, and marketing can drastically improve training and operational efficiency, as evidenced by the introduction of Nova, an innovative AI sales training platform. Chris Voss and John stress the importance of a solid business foundation, emphasizing the benefits of starting young and evolving with market changes. Notable Quotes: “Once you learn sales, you can work anywhere. Sales is an invaluable skill.” – John Magnor “AI is here to stay; companies not utilizing it are left in the dust.” – John Magnor “Business is the best sport…you can do this until you kick the grave.” – John Magnor “Build a foundation in your youth. It creates an amazing arc for the rest of your life.” – Chris Voss “Knowing sales and marketing is crucial. They are the building blocks of successful business ventures.” – John Magnor
Keywords entrepreneurship, venture capital, startups, accelerators, incubators, business planning, financial management, market research, investment strategies, startup applications, entrepreneurship, startups, B2B, B2B2C, EdTech, accelerator, business models, innovation, investment, technology Summary In this episode, Andrew Ackerman shares his extensive journey through the entrepreneurial landscape, from his early days in consulting to his ventures in startups and venture capital. He discusses the importance of understanding market pain points, the role of accelerators and incubators, and the challenges of navigating startup applications. Andrew emphasizes the need for financial planning and the balance between scrappiness and sustainability in entrepreneurship, providing valuable insights for aspiring entrepreneurs and investors alike. In this conversation, Andrew Ackerman discusses the nuances of entrepreneurship, particularly the balance between being scrappy and knowing when to invest in growth. He shares insights on B2B and B2B2C business models, the transition to later-stage startups, and the development of an EdTech program. Andrew highlights innovative approaches in startup acceleration, shares success stories from his accelerator, and discusses emerging trends in rental property services. He emphasizes the importance of execution over ideas and provides valuable advice on crafting compelling business narratives. Takeaways Andrew Ackerman started his career in consulting before moving to startups. He worked in a family office managing investments for a wealthy individual. Andrew transitioned to venture capital after his second startup experience. He emphasizes the importance of accelerators and incubators in the startup ecosystem. Navigating startup applications requires a rigorous screening process. Identifying red flags in startups is crucial for investors. Understanding market pain points is essential for successful ventures. Financial planning is vital for startup sustainability. Entrepreneurs should test their ideas before fully committing. Scrappiness in startups must be balanced with sustainable practices. A good entrepreneur knows when to spend to free up time. B2B2C models are prevalent in various industries. Transitioning to later-stage startups can be beneficial. Building programs tailored to specific industries can enhance success. Innovative approaches in startup acceleration can lead to better outcomes. Success stories often involve leveraging existing networks for diligence. Technology can streamline services in rental properties. Vision slides can enhance investor interest by showcasing market potential. Writing a business fable can make complex concepts more relatable. Execution is more critical than the initial idea in startups. Titles Navigating the Startup Landscape with Andrew Ackerman From Consulting to Venture Capital: Andrew's Journey Sound bites "I like scrappy entrepreneurs." "It's good soup to nuts." "You can get in touch with me." Chapters 00:00 Introduction to the Podcast and Guest 01:37 Andrew Ackerman's Background and Early Career 05:11 Transitioning to Startups and Family Offices 06:08 Experience in Accelerators and Incubators 10:14 The Application Process for Startups 15:02 Evaluating Startup Ideas and Feedback Mechanisms 21:04 Navigating VC Soft No's and Investor Feedback 21:12 Understanding VC Expectations 22:29 Identifying Pain Points in Startups 24:37 Navigating Early-Stage Investments 25:07 The Importance of Founder Commitment 26:47 Marketing Strategies for Growth 28:35 Sustainability in Startup Operations 30:32 The Balance of Scrappiness and Professionalism 32:46 Industry Focus and B2B Dynamics 36:06 Transitioning to Later Stage Startups 39:02 Building Effective Accelerator Programs 45:18 Maximizing Revenue Through Customer Expansion 46:13 Success Stories: Companies That Took Off 48:54 Innovative Solutions in Mining Technology 51:01 Amenify: Revolutionizing Rental Property Services 55:31 Leveraging Technology Across Industries 56:21 Vision Slides: Expanding Market Potential 58:36 The Importance of Team Execution 01:01:00 Writing a Business Fable: Lessons from Entrepreneurship 01:05:11 Who Should Read This Book?
Wondering why your lead generation efforts aren't landing sales? In this episode, I'm sharing the key difference between decision makers and influencers in corporate organisations - and why targeting the right people will transform your business. Consistency matters and so does knowing who truly holds the budget and sign-off power. Build relationships, but be strategic. You'll learn why consistency trumps any "magic" lead generation method, and how focusing your energy on the right contacts can be the difference between wasted time and revenue growth. Whether you're a coach, consultant, speaker, or trainer looking to supplement your lead generation, this episode goes deep into practical strategies—and offers actionable advice to help you build relationships that truly move the needle for your business. Ready to unlock the secrets to better B2B sales and start this year off strong? Tune in, get inspired, and learn how to have more impactful conversations (and more closed deals) with the people who count. Key Takeaways: Qualified Lead vs. Influencer: Decision makers are those with the job title, remit, and budget autonomy to actually buy your services. Influencers may champion you internally or help you understand organisational needs—but without buying power, your efforts might not convert to sales. Volume and Consistency Matter: Lead generation isn't about finding a single "magic bullet" strategy. Whether you use email, LinkedIn, networking, or speaking gigs—consistency in executing your method and clear targeting are what drive results. Don't Get Stuck on Dead-End Relationships: If you're spending hours on calls with people who love your insights but never have purchasing authority, it may be time to re-evaluate your prospect list. Pouring energy into non-reciprocal relationships is wasted time (and money). How to Qualify a Decision Maker: Ensure your contacts tick these boxes: Their job title aligns with responsibility for your expertise. They hold autonomous budget. They have sign-off power for purchases. Influencers Still Matter—Just Differently: Influencers can introduce you to decision makers or champion your offer internally. But remember, if a relationship isn't productive or mutually beneficial, set boundaries so your focus stays on revenue-generating prospects. Key Quotes; The Real Challenge of Lead Generation "One of the major challenges is that people aren't always generating the right kind of leads." 00:03:0100:03:05 Why Your Outreach Isn't Getting Results "If you haven't worked on the quality and volume and targeting pieces of whatever, whatever outreach strategy you employ, whether it's email, whether it's LinkedIn, whether it's speaking, whether it's networking, whether it's any executive effort, you are not going to see the result you want." 00:17:2300:17:41 The Hidden Pitfall in Sales Strategies Quote: "Most people are not doing that in their sales process and as a result, it means their sales process is stalled. And it means that they're, I'm going to use the phrase wasting time because they're spending lots and lots of time and energy on cultivating relationships with influencers who are not going to be able to push them up the chain to the, to the actual sale." 00:23:5100:24:16 The Importance of Building Relationships Across All Levels "Even junior employees are important to know because one day they will get jobs that are in leadership positions where they are a decision maker. So it's important to create relationships with everybody." 00:37:5200:37:54 Key Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Cold & Sold Bundle: Secure your spot at Converting Corporates 2026, get a year's inbound leads, plus access to the popular Cold to Closed course (8 sales calls in 4 weeks, anyone?) .https://smartleaderssell.thrivecart.com/cold-and-sold-bundle/ Episode sponsored by The Expert Services Directory: A key resource for coaches / consultants / trainers and done-for-you service providers to generate inbound leads. Access The Expert Services Directory here https://bit.ly/ExpertServicesDirectory and use code PODCAST for a special bonus. If you've enjoyed listening to Are you speaking to decision-makers or influencers (& why it matters!) check out these episodes. Generating Corporate Leads https://sellingtocorporate.com/podcast/stc002-generating-corporate-leads/ How to find the right decision maker in corporate organisations https://sellingtocorporate.com/podcast/stc022-how-to-find-the-right-decision-maker-in-corporate-organisations/ If you would like to sign up for our weekly newsletter to stay in touch with the latest B2B sales tips and techniques click https://sellingtocorporate.com/newsletter/ Content Disclaimer The information contained above is provided for information purposes only. The contents of this article, video or audio are not intended to amount to advice and you should not rely on any of the contents of this article, video or audio. Professional advice should be obtained before taking or refraining from taking any action as a result of the contents of this article, video or audio. Jessica Lorimer disclaims all liability and responsibility arising from any reliance placed on any of the contents of this article, video or audio.
Learn how B2B teams can scale creative operations, cut the busywork, and show up consistently with content that resonates. Charging by the hour? You're leaving money on the table. In this episode, host Jason Bradwell sits down with Jonathan Stark - author of Hourly Billing Is Nuts and host of the Ditching Hourly podcast - for a masterclass in pricing, positioning, and why daily publishing changed everything for his business. Jonathan breaks down why hourly billing traps experts in low-profit margins, the difference between cost-plus and actual value-based pricing, and his "scope last" principle that flips traditional consulting on its head. He also shares how publishing daily helped him build a loyal audience, deepen his expertise, and turn strangers into superfans. Whether you're a solo consultant or running a B2B service business, this conversation delivers clear, actionable frameworks to work less, charge more, and stand out. Jason and Jonathan dive straight into why hourly billing is fundamentally broken. It punishes efficiency, caps your income, and makes clients focus on time instead of outcomes. Jonathan explains the "fixed pricing trap" most consultants fall into, they think they're doing value-based pricing when they're really just doing cost-plus (estimate hours, multiply by rate, add margin). Real value-based pricing starts with understanding what success is worth to the client. The conversation shifts to Jonathan's signature principle: scope last. Instead of leading with what you'll do, lead with the outcome the client wants and price based on that value. Only after they say yes do you figure out the most efficient way to deliver it. This requires strong positioning, becoming the only choice for a specific problem, not the cheapest option among many. They explore how daily publishing transformed Jonathan's business. He's published something every single day for years, creating what he calls "asymmetric intimacy" his audience feels like they know him deeply even if they've never met. This built trust at scale and turned his owned media into a long-term growth engine that compounds over time. Jonathan shares practical newsletter tactics: the capture phase (getting people on the list), writing cadence (daily works for him), and why podcasting is like building localized celebrity. They also discuss burnout risks, how AI fits in (spoiler: it's a tool, not a replacement for thinking), and Jonathan's advice for anyone launching a podcast or daily newsletter: done is better than perfect, just start. If you're stuck in the pricing-versus-scoping cycle or charging by the hour and feeling trapped, Jonathan's frameworks will fundamentally shift how you think about your business. This isn't theory, it's battle-tested advice from someone who's helped thousands of consultants escape the hourly trap. Plus, his insights on daily publishing offer a blueprint for building trust and authority in any B2B market. 00:00 - Introduction: From developer to pricing evangelist 01:30 - Why hourly billing is broken 04:00 - The fixed pricing trap and cost-plus confusion 06:00 - What value-based pricing actually looks like 08:00 - Scope last: price outcomes, not inputs 10:00 - Positioning: become the only choice 13:00 - Daily publishing and asymmetric intimacy 16:30 - Owned media as a growth engine 20:00 - Newsletter tactics and writing cadence 23:30 - Podcasting builds localized celebrity 26:00 - Burnout, AI, and sustainability 30:00 - Advice for launching a podcast or daily list 34:00 - Done beats perfect—just start 38:00 - Final takeaways on pricing and standing out Connect with Jason Bradwell on LinkedIn Connect with Jonathan Stark on LinkedIn Visit Hourly Billing Is Nuts Visit Ditching Hourly Explore B2B Better website and the Pipe Dream podcast
Founders don't lose money because they lack intelligence. They lose it because they make emotional decisions under pressure.In this episode of Founder Talk, Alex Sheridan sits down with Dan Tresemer, Managing Partner at OnPath Financial, to break down how founders should actually think when volatility hits. Dan has spent decades stewarding capital for entrepreneurs and business owners, helping guide more than $2 billion through bull markets, crashes, policy shifts, and emotional extremes. This is a founder-to-founder conversation about decision-making, discipline, and long-term perspective—without predictions, hype, or fear-driven narratives.Many founders are strong operators—but struggle when emotions bleed into financial decisions. This episode explores why that happens and how experienced capital stewards counteract it. Dan explains how overconfidence, fear, and short-term thinking quietly erode outcomes, even for highly capable leaders.00:00:00Introduction00:01:21Q: Why does reacting well matter more than predicting markets?A: Because no one can foresee shocks. Durable strategies focus on preparedness and adaptability, not forecasts.00:06:40Q: What role do emotions play in poor founder investment decisions?A: Fear and overconfidence often drive timing mistakes. Most long-term damage comes from emotional reactions, not fundamentals.00:21:12Q: What's a common wealth mistake founders make as their companies scale?A: Overconcentration. Tying too much net worth to one business increases risk, even when growth looks strong.00:30:00Q: How should founders choose a financial advisor they can trust?A: Relationship quality matters more than performance claims. Trust, responsiveness, and alignment drive long-term outcomes.00:36:20Q: Will AI replace financial advisors?A: No. AI enhances efficiency, but human judgment is critical during uncertainty, life changes, and emotional decision points.00:43:40Q: How should founders think about wealth beyond their business exit?A: Wealth creation is multi-generational. Planning for protection and transfer matters as much as building it.Watch the full episode to hear the complete conversation and the nuance behind each decision. This episode is especially relevant for founders navigating growth, scale, or long-term exit planning.Subscribe to Founder Talk for more authentic, no-fluff founder interviews.
On this episode of The Biz-to-Biz Podcast, host Allen Kopelman sits down with Michael Bernicker, founder of Rooming, to explore how the company is transforming the way people live, rent, and connect through flexible housing solutions.Michael breaks down the inspiration behind Rooming, how the platform simplifies shared living, and why flexibility, affordability, and community are becoming must-haves in today's housing market. From solving real-world housing challenges to building a tech-enabled marketplace, this conversation dives into what it takes to launch a solution that meets modern lifestyle demands.In this episode, you'll learn:What Rooming is and how it's redefining shared and flexible livingThe problem Rooming set out to solve in today's housing marketHow technology and community play a role in scalable housing solutionsLessons learned while building and growing a real estate tech platformWhether you're a founder, investor, real estate professional, or just curious about the future of housing, this episode delivers valuable insights on innovation, entrepreneurship, and building solutions that truly meet market needs.
Amplio operates a two-sided marketplace that helps manufacturers monetize surplus inventory and decommissioned industrial equipment rather than writing off assets or paying for disposal. The company has won contracts with GM and SpaceX despite competing against liquidators with 30-year local relationships. In a recent episode of BUILDERS, we sat down with Trey Closson, Co-Founder and CEO of Amplio, to unpack how the company executed a complete business model pivot from supply chain risk software to marketplace, discovered that enterprise deals close faster than SMB despite conventional wisdom, and built repeatable GTM motions in a fragmented $100B+ market previously dominated by local operators. Topics Discussed: Executing Amplio's pivot from supply chain risk software to surplus inventory marketplace Moving four truckloads of inventory through a WeWork to prove the business model Closing GM and SpaceX inbound from Google Ads as the PMF validation signal Displacing 30-year incumbent relationships through corporate + local dual threading Why enterprise contracts closed faster than SMB deals in Amplio's specific context Scaling beyond founder-led sales to repeatable AE motions Operating a two-sided marketplace: supply acquisition strategy vs. demand conversion GTM Lessons For B2B Founders: Manual heroics prove economics before automation: When a customer offered Amplio $25 million in surplus inventory, Trey had no warehouse, no logistics infrastructure, and no playbook. What was supposed to be four pallets became four full truckloads delivered to their WeWork. Trey and one employee physically moved inventory boxes off pallets into their office space, then figured out how to sell it while the WeWork management threatened eviction. The core insight: "the first time solving a problem, it doesn't need to be an automated, efficient process, it just needs to be okay. A customer has a problem, we need to figure out a way to solve that problem." Only after proving they could profitably solve the problem multiple times did they invest in automation and efficiency. For founders, the implication is clear—delay infrastructure investment until you've manually proven unit economics and repeatability, even if execution requires unsustainable effort. True PMF signals come from zero-relationship wins: Trey leveraged 15 years of supply chain relationships to secure initial customers and build product infrastructure. But he identifies the precise PMF inflection point: "middle of last year, we had both GM and SpaceX respond to a Google Ad." These companies had zero connection to Trey or his co-founder, found Amplio through SEM, and chose them over traditional liquidators they'd worked with for years. This is the distinction between "my network will buy from me" and "the market will buy from us." Founders should use their Rolodex to achieve velocity and prove the concept, but recognize that true product-market fit only exists when customers with no founder relationship choose your solution over established alternatives. Enterprise velocity depends on payment direction and urgency profile: Amplio deliberately focused on enterprise after being told by multiple founders to avoid "hunting whales." They discovered enterprise closed faster than SMB for three structural reasons. First, SMBs had unrealistic recovery expectations—wanting $900K back on $1M inventory when market reality is cents on the dollar, creating unresolvable expectation gaps. Second, enterprises had the problem across 100+ facilities with no dedicated owner and urgent mandates from finance or supply chain leadership. Third, because Amplio pays customers rather than charging them, legal review velocity increased dramatically. As Trey explains: "the lawyers thankfully determine, because we're not getting paid by them, that there's low risk for them in terms of signing a contract with us." Founders should map their specific deal structure and customer urgency profile rather than defaulting to SMB-first based on generic advice. Displace entrenched relationships through dual-threading: The surplus liquidation market is hyper-fragmented with hundreds of thousands of local liquidators, many holding 30-year plant-level relationships. Amplio's breakthrough: "partnering together with that person at the corporate level we can indicate not only can we solve the problem locally, but we can also do it across the entire enterprise." They pair the local plant manager with corporate procurement or finance leadership, demonstrating local problem-solving plus enterprise-wide scalability that local liquidators cannot match. This dual-threading strategy neutralizes the incumbent's relationship advantage while showcasing the efficiency and consistency that corporate leadership values. For founders entering relationship-driven markets, identify the corporate stakeholder whose enterprise-wide objectives trump individual facility loyalty. Accelerate trust through predictable execution in low-NPS markets: Industrial liquidation is a "really low NPS industry—nobody loves working with their liquidator." In markets with poor customer satisfaction and commoditized offerings, trust accelerates when you focus on "say-do ratio"—if you commit to something, execute it. Amplio often solves adjacent problems outside their core offering and frequently removes inventory from warehouses faster than economically optimal to make customers "look like an absolute hero." This over-delivery in low-satisfaction markets creates disproportionate differentiation. The tactical implementation: understand what problems the organization is trying to solve beyond your core product, find ways to solve those problems even if not monetizable, and prioritize making your champion successful over optimizing every transaction. // Sponsors: Front Lines — We help B2B tech companies launch, manage, and grow podcasts that drive demand, awareness, and thought leadership. www.FrontLines.io The Global Talent Co. — We help tech startups find, vet, hire, pay, and retain amazing marketing talent that costs 50-70% less than the US & Europe. www.GlobalTalent.co // Don't Miss: New Podcast Series — How I Hire Senior GTM leaders share the tactical hiring frameworks they use to build winning revenue teams. Hosted by Andy Mowat, who scaled 4 unicorns from $10M to $100M+ ARR and launched Whispered to help executives find their next role. Subscribe here: https://open.spotify.com/show/53yCHlPfLSMFimtv0riPyM
i6 Group is connecting the fragmented aviation fuel ecosystem-airlines, fuel suppliers, and service providers-through a real-time digital platform that eliminates paper-based processes at over 260 airports worldwide. After launching with British Airways at Heathrow in 2015 and recently closing their Series B with German PE firm Itrium, i6 is proving that even heavily regulated, risk-averse industries can achieve step-function operational improvements through software. In this episode of BUILDERS, Alex Mattos, CEO and Managing Director of i6 Group, breaks down how they navigated decade-long enterprise sales cycles, leveraged strategic customers as Series A investors, and are now building toward profitability to maximize exit optionality. Topics Discussed: The surprising analog nature of aviation fuel operations despite advanced aircraft technology i6's pivot from defense fuel system testing to commercial aviation digitization The multi-party fuel ecosystem: airlines, suppliers, service providers, and logistics chains Strategic approach to landing British Airways and Virgin Atlantic as launch customers Fundamental differences between European fuel optimization vs. US supply chain management models Multi-stakeholder enterprise sales involving fuel teams, flight ops, pilot unions, and CFOs Strategic Series A with customer-investors: British Airways, JetBlue, Shell, and World Fuel Services Series B transition from strategic to PE backing focused on scaling operations and go-to-market Network effects driving compounding value as airport coverage expands Path to self-sustainability and exit strategy considerations GTM Lessons For B2B Founders: Target brand DNA, not just budget, for early enterprise customers: i6 deliberately approached Virgin Atlantic because of Richard Branson's reputation for "being entrepreneurial, taking a risk, doing something different." This wasn't naive brand worship—it was strategic targeting based on organizational risk tolerance. When selling complex infrastructure to enterprises pre-product-market fit, a prospect's innovation track record matters more than their budget size. Map your early pipeline based on cultural willingness to partner with startups, not just technical fit. Invest in non-paying reference customers as currency for tier-one deals: Virgin Atlantic became i6's first operational deployment without payment. This wasn't charity—it was strategic capital allocation. The working reference at Virgin directly unlocked British Airways: "we turned up, demonstrated what we were doing...we've done this trial with Virgin and here's the results, and it went really well." For founders selling to conservative enterprises, one live deployment at a credible brand is worth more than a dozen pitch decks. Budget 6-12 months of runway for strategic pilots that generate proof points, not revenue. Create forcing functions with specific follow-up commitments: When British Airways said "if you're still here in six months, come back," most founders would hear soft rejection. Alex heard a calendar commitment and returned "to the day" with results. This precision signaling—we take your requirements seriously enough to track them to the day—separates serious vendors from tire-kickers. When enterprises set conditional bars, treat them as binding contracts and demonstrate execution discipline through exact follow-through. Position for market disruption by maintaining warm enterprise relationships: i6 benefited when an incumbent competitor liquidated, creating urgent procurement needs at British Airways. But luck favors the prepared—they had already established credibility through their Virgin deployment. Maintain enterprise relationships even when deals seem stalled. In concentrated B2B markets, competitive exits, budget releases, and trigger events happen regularly. Your position in the consideration set when disruption hits determines whether you capture the opportunity. Engineer word-of-mouth in concentrated industries through excellence, not marketing: Four months after Heathrow deployment, Dubai airport approached i6 unsolicited: "we've heard great things." In the aviation fuel community—which Alex describes as "surprisingly small"—exceptional execution travels faster than any outbound motion. This changes GTM strategy: in concentrated industries, over-invest in customer success and operational excellence at early deployments rather than spreading thin across many accounts. Your first customers are your sales team. Segment GTM by operational model, not just geography or company size: i6 discovered European airlines optimize for fuel efficiency and real-time decisions, while US airlines (controlling their own supply networks since the late 1980s) prioritize supply chain visibility: "how much fuel did we put in the plane, how much have we had delivered, how much have we got left." These aren't feature preferences—they're fundamentally different jobs-to-be-done driven by market structure. Don't assume global enterprises have unified needs. Segment by operational model and regulatory environment, then customize messaging and roadmap accordingly. Stage investor expertise to match company evolution, not just valuation milestones: Series A brought strategic investors who were actual users (British Airways, JetBlue, Shell, World Fuel Services) for product validation and network access. Series B brought PE firm Itrium for "scaling the business...building and growing our sales and revenue teams." This wasn't opportunistic—it was deliberate staging of capital sources to match capability gaps. Don't optimize fundraising purely on valuation or dilution. Map your next 18-month bottleneck (product validation vs. operational scaling vs. market expansion) and raise from investors who've solved that specific problem. Build for profitability to control your exit timing and terms: Alex's goal is avoiding Series C entirely: "we build and establish a fully self-sustaining business...the business becomes fully sustainable in the next couple of years." This isn't conservatism—it's strategic optionality. Reaching profitability eliminates the forced march toward subsequent rounds, letting you choose between IPO or M&A based on market conditions rather than cash position. For infrastructure plays with long implementation cycles, factor sustainability into your growth model early, even if it moderates topline growth rates. // Sponsors: Front Lines — We help B2B tech companies launch, manage, and grow podcasts that drive demand, awareness, and thought leadership. www.FrontLines.io The Global Talent Co. — We help tech startups find, vet, hire, pay, and retain amazing marketing talent that costs 50-70% less than the US & Europe. www.GlobalTalent.co // Don't Miss: New Podcast Series — How I Hire Senior GTM leaders share the tactical hiring frameworks they use to build winning revenue teams. Hosted by Andy Mowat, who scaled 4 unicorns from $10M to $100M+ ARR and launched Whispered to help executives find their next role. Subscribe here: https://open.spotify.com/show/53yCHlPfLSMFimtv0riPyM
What happens when economic uncertainty, tariffs, AI agents, and cybersecurity risks collide inside wholesale distribution?In this episode of Around the Horn in Wholesale Distribution, Kevin Brown and Tom Burton break down the signals beneath the noise and explain what manufacturers and distributors should actually be paying attention to right now.From inflation ambiguity and tariff authority to AI-driven buying behavior and hidden margin opportunities, this conversation connects macroeconomic shifts to real operational decisions that impact growth, security, and profitability across the wholesale supply chain.What You'll Learn:Why economic uncertainty, not inflation alone, is the dominant concern for executives heading into 2026How tariffs, executive authority, and Supreme Court timing could reshape trade policy without dramatic disruptionWhere “trapped potential” hides inside distributor margin, pricing discipline, and product mixWhy AI agents are changing how B2B buyers research, evaluate, and eventually purchaseHow cybersecurity threats now target supply chain ecosystems, not just individual companiesEpisode Highlights:03:10 – Why economic uncertainty matters more than headline inflation numbers09:25 – Manufacturing signals, demand hesitation, and planning in the “gray zone” economy16:40 – Tariffs, executive authority, and why the Supreme Court is likely to rule narrowly26:05 – How distributors can uncover “trapped potential” through margin and pricing discipline36:30 – AI-generated content vs real value creation in B2B marketing46:15 – Agentic AI and how machine-to-machine buying is changing sales discovery56:40 – Cybersecurity risk across distributors, vendors, and shared digital ecosystemsTools, Frameworks, and Concepts MentionedAI-enabled Customer Intelligence and Smart CRM platformsAgentic AI and multi-agent workflowsTrapped potential and organic revenue growthPricing discipline and margin visibilitySOC 2 compliance and supply chain cybersecurityERP, CRM, and data silo integrationClosing Insight:Economic cycles come and go, but clarity comes from understanding where risk, margin, and opportunity actually live inside your business. The distributors who win next will not wait for certainty, they'll build systems that adapt faster than change itself.Leave a Review: Help us grow by sharing your thoughts on the show.Learn more about the LeadSmart AI B2B Sales Platform: https://www.leadsmarttech.com/ Join the conversation each week on LinkedIn Live.Want even more insight to the stories we discuss each week? Subscribe to the Around The Horn Newsletter.You can also hear the podcast and other excellent content on our YouTube Channel.Follow us on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, or TikTok.
In this episode, I explain why the AI tools making you faster might actually be making you replaceable. I share a story about a 1917 hay delivery business to illustrate the fatal difference between using technology to be "lazy" versus using it to be "better." I also break down a real-world example of why I fired a ghostwriter who was using AI to cut corners, and how I built an automated system to replace—and outperform—them in less than 24 hours. Tune in to find out if you are building a gas station or just delivering hay.//Welcome to The Ray J. Green Show, your destination for tips on sales, strategy, and self-mastery from an operator, not a guru.About Ray:→ Former Managing Director of National Small & Midsize Business at the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, where he doubled revenue per sale in fundraising, led the first increase in SMB membership, co-built a national Mid-Market sales channel, and more.→ Former CEO operator for several investor groups where he led turnarounds of recently acquired small businesses.→ Current founder of MSP Sales Partners, where we currently help IT companies scale sales: www.MSPSalesPartners.com→ Current Sales & Sales Management Expert in Residence at the world's largest IT business mastermind.→ Current Managing Partner of Repeatable Revenue Ventures, where we scale B2B companies we have equity in: www.RayJGreen.com//Follow Ray on:YouTube | LinkedIn | Facebook | Twitter | Instagram
In this episode, we're joined by Madhav Bhandari, VP Marketing at Storylane, the demo automation platform helping B2B teams show their product before prospects ever talk to sales. Storylane is a profitable, fully remote SaaS with 50 employees, and a clear path toward $20M+. Madhav shares how Storylane broke out of the “race to average” in an insanely crowded martech and sales tech market, not by spending more, but by building a repeatable system for pattern interruption. We unpack how they used unconventional SEO, brand plays, and GTM experiments to grow brand searches from 1,500 to 12,000 per month, drive massive inbound, and turn marketing into a true growth engine. We spoke with Madhav about why great products aren't enough anymore, how to become the first vendor prospects discover, and how to build a marketing portfolio that consistently produces breakout ideas instead of chasing one-hit wonders. Here are some of the key questions we address: Why visibility, not budget, is the real advantage in crowded SaaS markets What pattern interruption actually means and how to systematize it How Storylane grew brand searches 8x and created an unfair inbound advantage Why traditional SEO and blog strategies are too slow, and what replaced them How to build a marketing portfolio instead of chasing viral one-offs Where pattern interruption should live and why leadership must own it
What if your podcast became your most effective relationship-building tool? In this episode, I'm joined by Jeremy Weiss, who breaks down how nonprofits can use podcasting to connect with their Dream 200—donors, referral partners, and champions—by leading with generosity and creating real ROI. Episode Highlights 01:19 Jeremy's background and journey 05:41 The power of podcasting for relationships 11:30 Building relationships through giving 17:12 Asking better, open-ended questions 26:58 Active listening, follow-up, and human connection 35:31 Connecting and engaging meaningfully on LinkedIn Meet the Guest My guest for this episode is Dr. Jeremy Weisz Dr. Jeremy Weisz has been featuring top entrepreneurs with video interviews since 2008. The interviews include founders/CEO's of Pixar, P90X, Atari, Zappier, Einstein Bagels, Mattel, Kettle Chips, RX Bars, Big League Chew, the Orlando Magic, and many more on www.InspiredInsider.com, and he shares the interviews with over 225K social media followers and email subscribers. He runs Rise25, where they help B2B businesses connect to their 'Dream 200' clients and referral partners, and get ROI, using a podcast. They eliminate 99% of the work and make sure you get ROI. Rise25 is an easy button for you to launch and run your podcast. Podcasting has been one of the best things I've done both personally and professionally. It's been an amazing tool for connecting with referral partners, strategic partners, clients, and more. Podcasting is like a "Swiss Army knife" because it is business development, referral marketing, strategic partnerships, lead generation, SEO, content creation, personal & professional development, all in one Connect with Dr. Jeremy: www.Rise25.coAbout - Rise 25m/about/ Sponsored Resource Join the Inspired Nonprofit Leadership Newsletter for weekly tips and inspiration for leading your nonprofit! Access it here >> Be sure to subscribe to Inspired Nonprofit Leadership so that you don't miss a single episode, and while you're at it, won't you take a moment to write a short review and rate our show? It would be greatly appreciated! Let us know the topics or questions you would like to hear about in a future episode. You can do that and follow us on LinkedIn.
In this episode, host Josh interviews Ryan Deiss, founder of DigitalMarketer, about the smartest way for entrepreneurs to hire their first employees. Ryan explains why business owners should avoid hiring assistants for minor tasks and instead recruit experienced professionals who can fully own critical business functions. He discusses overcoming fears around big hires, financial considerations, and the importance of mapping out your value creation process. Ryan also shares strategies for systematizing operations and building a team that enables real growth and freedom, rather than creating more management headaches.Chapters:Introduction to Ryan Deiss and Episode Overview (00:00:00)Host introduces Ryan Deiss, his background, and the episode's focus on business operating systems and hiring.Common Mistakes in First Hires (00:02:12)Ryan explains what not to do when hiring your first employee, warning against hiring assistants for minor tasks.The "Genius with a Thousand Helpers" Trap (00:02:56)Discussion on why hiring helpers instead of professionals leads to more management and less freedom.Hiring Professionals to Own Critical Functions (00:03:46)Advice to map value creation, identify weak spots, and hire experienced professionals to own those areas.Overcoming Fear and Financial Concerns in Big Hires (00:04:37)Ryan addresses the fear and financial hesitation of hiring high-level employees and how to mitigate it.Cost Comparison: Professionals vs. Multiple Helpers (00:06:14)Breakdown of the financial and operational impact of hiring one pro versus several lower-level helpers.The Real Cost of Ineffective Hiring (00:07:48)Explains the long-term frustration and wasted resources from hiring multiple helpers instead of a pro.Path to Entrepreneurial Freedom (00:09:18)Ryan outlines the goal: remove yourself from all value creation steps by hiring pros for each function.Debunking the "Learn It Before You Hire It" Myth (00:10:13)Ryan refutes the idea that founders must master a function before hiring an expert for it.Three Actionable Takeaways (00:11:39)Host summarizes key actions: value creation mapping, overcoming imposter syndrome for big hires, and automating processes.Closing and Where to Learn More (00:13:31)Ryan shares where listeners can learn more about his programs and communities.Links and Mentions:Tools and Websites Founders BoardKey Takeaways Value Creation Mapping: "00:11:58" Overcoming Imposter Syndrome: 00:12:59 Automating the Value Creation Process: 00:13:28Transcript:Josh 00:00:00 Today I'm super excited to introduce to you Ryan Deiss. Ryan is the founder and the CEO of The Scalable Company Digital Marketer, and a founding partner at Scalable Equity, LLC, a venture equity accelerator that builds and acquires B2B media and software brands. He is a bestselling author, founder of multiple companies, collectively employing hundreds around the globe, and one of the most dynamic speakers on business operating systems in the United States today. So welcome to the podcast, Ryan.Ryan 00:00:32 Thanks for having me. It is not difficult to be among the most dynamic speakers about business operating systems, because most people would consider that to be like watching paint dry. But I think it's I think it's pretty sexy stuff, so I appreciate that.Josh 00:00:47 Hey, and I agree as well. Typically it is, it is one of those topics that most people, I think tend to avoid, right? If you go to a conference and you're like, which one should I go to? I think the shiny object is always like the newest marketing hack, right? Or like social media? and with your experience obviously running Digital Marketer, you're you're well versed in that.Josh 00:01:09 And I think you could argue you're one of the most well-versed in digital marketing itself. But today we're going to be talking all about business operating systems. So how do you know who should be your first hire? Right. is it kind of going along that customer journey, so to speak, or your value journey that we're talking about here? And is it identifying, you know, hey, actually our secret sauce is in product innovation, right? Like that's our secret sauce. That's where it seems like we're bringing a lot of value, especially on Amazon. Right. You talk about, you know, bringing traffic. It's like well Amazon's brought traffic to you. Plus they have the fulfillment engine. So like they've tackled two big levers for a lot of people right. so if you identify like, hey, we're really good at product innovation or something like that, Does that mean, hey, I should first hire out that product innovation? Or do I need to figure out a product? Do I need to hire a project manager? Or is it an executive assistant? Like, how do you go through the process of deciding who to hire first and why?Ryan 00:02:12 So let me answer the question by telling you what not to do.Ryan 00:02:14 And then I'll come back around and give a more explicit answer. So what most people do, and it's not what you should do, is they go around and they look at all the stuff that needs to get done, right. And it's their name in all the boxes. And so what they say is, okay, I need to get somebody to help me with all of the little things so that I have more time to do these quote unquote important things. Right? So I need to hire, you know, a virtual assistant to help, like, answer my email and to deal with my scheduling. And, you know, I need to hire somebody else over here to, you know, respond to this and take care of that. And, you know, in this particular step, if I, if I just had somebody to help me do some of the pieces of this, you know, then, you know, then then I could be more efficient. And what we're doing when we do that is.Ryan 00:02:56 And the reason that's not what you do is you're what is known as the genius with a thousand helpers. Okay. And so you're not actually creating any additional space and freedom for yourself. You're just adding the management of other people and the tasking out of other people to your already cluttered to do list. And that's why it doesn't work. And that's why ultimately these people wind up failing and we're like, oh, they suck. And they were supposed to help me. And they're supposed to take time off. And they're not. They're just asking me all these questions. I don't have time to answer all these questions. Right. It's because we didn't hire someone to own a critical aspect of the value creation process. We hired somebody to help us continue to own that process. So what I would encourage you to do is look at the value creation flow and to say, what are the critical tasks and processes that I don't like. And I'm not particularly good at, but I'm currently being forced to do okay.Ryan 00:03:46 So it's incredibly critical. It's incredibly important. But you don't necessarily like doing it and and you don't necessarily. You're not necessarily the best in the world at it. So let's say again, you know, you're running an e-commerce business and you really love the product side of things. You love the innovation and the sourcing. you love, you know, thinking about the packaging and the positioning, but you're getting the bulk of your traffic, let's say, from, you know, Pinterest and Instagram. And really, you don't geek out that much on Pinterest and Instagram, but you're good enough at it, right? So what people would say is like, I guess I'm gonna get somebody to help with photography and maybe somebody can write some of the descriptions and do a littl...
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Become the Brand Your Customers Feel Great About Have you ever wondered why you are fiercely loyal to certain brands while ignoring others that offer the exact same thing? It's not about the price, and it's rarely about the features. It is about brain physiology and how it interacts with our decisions when it comes to brands. Today, we are diving deep into the science of emotion with Kevin Perlmutter, the pioneering strategist and author of the groundbreaking new book, Brand Desire. Kevin is here to reveal that the secret to business growth isn’t “selling”—it’s “solving.” We are going to explore his “Limbic Sparks” approach, a method rooted in behavioral science that helps you stop chasing customers and start magnetically attracting them. Whether you are leading a Fortune 500 company or building a personal brand, you will learn how to tap into the instinctive, emotional part of the brain that drives our decision-making. In this episode of A New Direction, we are moving beyond the old-school 20th century branding like “Unique Selling Proposition.” Kevin will walk us through his proven “Focus, Connect, Evolve” framework, showing us how to align your business with what people actually care about. We will discuss why traditional marketing language is dead and how you can earn loyalty by making your customers feel seen, heard, and understood. Join us live on A New Direction as we uncover the blind spots in your current strategy. If you are ready to stop shouting into the void and start building a brand that people don’t just buy from—but truly desire—this is a conversation you cannot afford to miss. Kevin Perlmutter’s book, “Brand Desire: Spark Customer Interest Using Emotional Insights” is the absolute essential book for today’s brand leaders. This is a book that is founded solidly on research both from the brand researchers and his own research working with different companies. For most of us we are still stuck in the 20th century branding ideas of persuasion. We are talking about all the great things about ourselves and what WE THINK we do for the future customer, but here’s the problem…how do your customers feel about your brand. Because at the end of the day it is all about how they feel about you. This is an important, because as we know we, as humans, do not make logical purchasing decisions, not matter how big or how small. It also does not matter if you are B2C or B2B, every human makes a decision based on emotions triggered by the limbic system and then justifies it with logic. And Kevin Perlmutter’s book, “Brand Desire” helps solve the problem. Kevin Perlmutter, helps us understand the 3 Steps to creating a brand that resonates with customers and makes them come back for more…Focus, Connect, Evolve. That is doing the right research asking the right questions, then creating a message that emotionally is in sync with the organization and the customer, and then how you are seen how you are heard, and does the message really something the customer cares about. Amazing book, one that will change you as a brand leader whether you are on a one person show, or a corporation looking to increase profitability. Click here to get your copy of Brand Desire! Linda Craft Team, Realtors for more than 40 years they have been helping people make a life transition. Wait! What? Think about it, every place you have ever lived has been a transition in your life. And since 1985 they have been helping people reduce the stress and making that transition easier for thousands of people. Unaffiliated and independently owned and operated they can recommend the best real estate professional to help you sell your home or buy your next home anywhere in the world. That is because they are not attached to a national company, they are attached to what is in your best interest. So before you buy or sell start with the “Legends” at Linda Craft Team. Just click on over to www.LindaCraft.com Here is the truth: You tune into A New Direction because you want to grow. But consuming content and executing strategy are two different things. If you are leading a company between $5M and $50M and you feel like you are hitting a ceiling, the problem isn't a lack of information. It's likely a “human” bottleneck. I am Coach Jay, a Behavioral Strategist who specializes in fixing the friction that kills profit. I don't just look at your P&L; I look at the psychology of the people driving it. I recently helped a stalled mid-market firm save $3 Million and secure new capital—not by firing people, but by realigning their behavior. Stop guessing. Let's find the millions trapped in your org chart. Reach out for a discreet conversation: 919-369-2121 or visit TheCoachJay.com.
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This is episode 809. Read the complete transcription on the Sales Game Changers Podcast website. This is a Sales Story and a Tip episode! Watch the video of the interview here. Subscribe to the Sales Game Changers Podcast now on Apple Podcasts! Read more about the Institute for Effective Professional Selling Emerging Sales Leader Program here. Purchase Fred Diamond's best-sellers Love, Hope, Lyme: What Family Members, Partners, and Friends Who Love a Chronic Lyme Survivor Need to Know and Insights for Sales Game Changers now! Today's show featured an interview with Joe Mindak, Cofounder of Nolodex, an Enterprise SaaS Platform focused on revolutionizing and monetizing B2B referral transactions within communities. Find Joe on LinkedIn. JOE'S TIP: "Sales has always been about who you know. Now it's finally okay to say: if I help you win business, I should get paid for it."
In "Vanity Metrics Don't Move Freight: Building Real Pipeline in Freight-Tech", Joe Lynch and Jim Waters, Fractional CMO and Founder of FreightTech (marketing), discuss how marketing must shift from a tactical cost center to a strategic operating system that drives real revenue. About Jim Waters Jim Waters is a Boston-based B2B marketing executive with a proven track record of building robust sales pipelines. His passion lies in driving meaningful conversations, understanding customer pain points, and creating compelling content that generates active pipeline velocity. A results-driven innovator, Jim was an early employee at both FRAYT and Tive, where he spearheaded Global Marketing. Jim's entrepreneurial spirit led him to build successful marketing teams at Coveo, (CVO.TO), FAST (MSFT) and StreamServe (NASDAQ: OTEX). He earned an MBA from Northeastern University and is now Founder of FreighTech Advisors fractional CMO and advisor services to companies in the Logistics Technology industry. About FreighTech FreighTech is a company that delivers fractional CMO consulting, content development, marketing and advisory services specifically to logistics technology businesses. The company was founded in 2023 by Jim Waters, a logistics and supply chain marketing veteran. Key Takeaways: Vanity Metrics Don't Move Freight: Building Real Pipeline in Freight-Tech In "Vanity Metrics Don't Move Freight: Building Real Pipeline in Freight-Tech", Joe Lynch and Jim Waters, Fractional CMO and Founder of FreightTech (marketing), discuss how marketing must shift from a tactical cost center to a strategic operating system that drives real revenue. FreighTech's Specialization: Founded in 2023, FreighTech provides fractional CMO consulting and marketing advisory services specifically for logistics technology businesses. Jim Waters leverages his deep industry experience (having scaled companies like Tive and Frayt) to help growth-stage startups turn marketing from a cost center into a revenue-generating engine without the overhead of a full-time executive. Marketing as a Portfolio: Jim argues that marketing should be treated as an investment portfolio, not a one-off cost. Just like a financial portfolio or a fitness routine, it requires time and consistency. Companies often fail because they "micromanage" their marketing, expecting an immediate ROI within two weeks, rather than allowing for the 6–9 month cycle often required to see real pipeline growth. The Death of the Cold Call and the Rise of "Stalking": The traditional sales model of making 100 cold calls a day is losing effectiveness because buyers now screen calls and conduct their own research online. Joe and Jim discuss how the buying process starts long before the sales process, with potential customers "stalking" a company's content on LinkedIn, YouTube, and podcasts for up to a year before ever engaging with a salesperson. Navigating the 2026 Visibility Shift (SEO, GEO, and AEO): Visibility in 2026 requires more than just traditional Search Engine Optimization (SEO). Jim introduces two critical new concepts: GEO (Generative Engine Optimization): Ensuring your brand is cited by AI engines like ChatGPT and Gemini as a subject matter expert. AEO (Answer Engine Optimization): Structuring content to directly answer binary buyer questions (e.g., "How do I improve ROI in logistics marketing?"). The "Revenue Engine Blueprint" Basics: Before scaling, companies must master the basics. Jim emphasizes that a "blueprint" requires a clear understanding of the Total Addressable Market (TAM) and a refined Ideal Customer Profile (ICP). Without knowing exactly who you solve problems for, adding expensive tech stacks like Salesforce or HubSpot is simply "accelerating into a wall." The Danger of "Chainsaw" Customers: Jim shares a cautionary tale from his time at Tive about a salesperson wanting to tape a high-end tracker to a chainsaw to prevent theft. While any revenue is tempting, Jim warns that chasing customers outside your ICP is not repeatable or scalable. True growth comes from "niching down" to focus on fans and specific verticals (like Pharma or Cold Chain) rather than trying to be everything to everyone. Multiplying Reach through a Distribution Engine: Content is only half the battle; the other half is a distribution engine. This involves using a "one-to-many" strategy—leveraging partners, PR, and podcasts to amplify a single piece of high-quality thought leadership. By turning one conversation into video clips, articles, and social posts, companies build the authenticity and trust necessary for modern freight-tech sales. Learn More About Vanity Metrics Don't Move Freight: Building Real Pipeline in Freight-Tech Jim Waters | Linkedin FreighTech | Linkedin FreighTech Driving Sales Pipeline with Jim Waters | The Logistics of Logistics The Key to Effective Last Mile Delivery with Jim Waters | The Logistics of Logistics Every Shipment Matters With Jim Waters | The Logistics of Logistics The Logistics of Logistics Podcast If you enjoy the podcast, please leave a positive review, subscribe, and share it with your friends and colleagues. The Logistics of Logistics Podcast: Google, Apple, Castbox, Spotify, Stitcher, PlayerFM, Tunein, Podbean, Owltail, Libsyn, Overcast Check out The Logistics of Logistics on Youtube
Your brand content isn't “scaling.” It's getting cloned into beige mush by AI—and your buyers can smell it. In a world where everyone can publish 10x more, “more” doesn't win. Better wins.In this episode, Jessica Rosenberg (Head of Brand at AirOps) delivers the reality check B2B teams keep dodging: AI doesn't make marketing magically faster—it makes mediocre faster. Jessica unpacks why AI search raises the stakes on quality, how “AI-first” brands build movements (not feature piles), and why the new moat isn't content volume—it's taste, narrative, and systems that actually improve over time. If your strategy is “prompt → post → pray,” this one's going to sting (in a helpful way).We also explore:The brand-building cheat code in 2026: education that changes behavior, not sales enablement in a trench coatThe two-pizza team advantage: how a tiny crew shipped a six-week rebrand with speed and sanityWhat a real AI workflow looks like (hint: it's not a prompt with a fancy name)And much more.
Trust has always been one of the hardest things to earn in B2B marketing. As content volumes have increased, that challenge has only grown. When buyers are surrounded by more posts, more articles, and more opinions than ever before, it becomes harder to know who to believe and who to ignore.In this episode of The Content 10x Podcast, Amy Woods talks through why people-led content is something you cannot afford to ignore in 2026. After years of higher output and faster production, and with AI making it easier than ever to scale, buyers are paying closer attention to who is speaking, not just what is being said. Experience, judgement, and credibility now carry more weight than polish.This episode focuses on the ‘why' behind people-led content – specifically employee-led content in B2B. Amy explores why trust feels harder to earn today, why human voices are starting to outperform brand-led messaging, and why this shift reflects buyer behaviour rather than a passing trend.If you're thinking about how to build credibility, engage your audience, and push your brand further without adding to the noise, this episode will help reframe how you approach visibility and trust in B2B marketing.Find out:Why trust has become the real constraint in B2B marketingHow AI-driven scale has changed expectations (and buyer skepticism)Why people now trust individuals more than brandsWhat “people-led content” means in a B2B contextWhy this shift is unavoidable for brands that want to stand out in 2026Important links & mentions:Amy on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/amywoods2/Content 10x: https://www.content10x.com/Amy's book: www.content10x.com/book (Content 10x: More Content, Less Time, Maximum Results)Amy Woods is the CEO and founder of Content 10x, a creative agency that provides specialist content strategy, creation and repurposing support to B2B organizations.She's also a best-selling author, hosts two content marketing podcasts (The Content 10x Podcast and B2B Content Strategist), and speaks on stages all over the world about the power of content marketing.Join thousands of business owners, content creators and marketers and get the latest content marketing tips and advice delivered straight to your inbox every week https://www.content10x.com/newsletter
Tiered pricing is becoming the simplest way to sell AI-powered SaaS without turning your pricing page into a technical explanation. In my interview with Dan Balcauski, founder and Chief Pricing Officer at Product Tranquility, we talked about why AI is forcing new pricing decisions earlier than ever—and why "good, better, best" packaging often works because it keeps buying decisions clear while helping companies manage real AI costs. The AI era is making pricing margin-aware again. Tiered pricing helps you protect margins without forcing buyers to learn your cost structure. About Dan Balcauski Dan Balcauski is the founder and Chief Pricing Officer at Product Tranquility, where he helps high-volume B2B SaaS CEOs define pricing and packaging for new products. He is a TopTal certified Top 3% Product Management Professional and helps teach Kellogg Executive Education course on Product Strategy. Over the last 15 years, Dan has managed products across the full lifecycle—from concept incubation to launch, platform transitions, maintenance, and end of life—across consumer and B2B companies ranging from startups to publicly traded enterprises. He previously served as Head of Product at LawnStarter and was a Principal Product Strategist at SolarWinds. Why Tiered Pricing Is Winning in the AI Era For years, SaaS companies could price mostly around value because marginal costs were relatively stable. AI changes the math. Dan points out that companies are now cutting meaningful monthly checks to model providers, and leadership teams can't pretend cost-to-serve is irrelevant anymore. That's a big reason tiered pricing is showing up everywhere right now. It gives teams a way to: Keep the offer simple for buyers Put premium capabilities where they belong Create a natural upgrade path that aligns with value and cost Most importantly, tiered pricing keeps you out of the weeds. The customer conversation stays focused on outcomes, not infrastructure. What Makes Tiered Pricing Actually Work Dan's point isn't "just shove AI into the top tier." Tiered pricing works when plan differences are easy to understand and tied to value drivers customers already recognize. Here are three practical patterns from the discussion that hold up well in the AI era. 1) Put AI in higher tiers when it boosts a user's output If an AI feature makes a person more effective—faster drafting, better triage, higher quality responses—tiering can be straightforward. The buyer already understands why a "Better" or "Best" plan costs more: it changes the capability of the team. This is also why seat-based pricing can still make sense for many AI-enhanced tools. If the value driver is still "help my team do better work," then users/seats remain an intuitive anchor. If AI increases team productivity, tiered pricing can stay aligned to seats—because seats still map to value. 2) Use add-ons when AI changes the value driver Sometimes AI doesn't just "help" the user—it replaces work entirely. When that happens, forcing it into the same tier structure can distort value and create confusion. Dan points to Intercom as a strong example of handling this well: The core support platform stays priced per user (agents), because the value driver is agent effectiveness. Their AI agent ("Fin AI") is priced separately because the agent isn't involved—the value is the number of issues the AI resolves. That's why per-resolution pricing makes sense. 3) Don't make buyers learn token math Dan's strongest warning is about token pricing. Customers don't want to learn what tokens are, and sales teams don't want to explain them—especially when you're selling a business outcome like faster support or better customer experience. Token-based pricing also shifts the conversation away from value and toward your vendor bill. As Dan puts it, customers don't care about your infrastructure costs, and pushing that complexity into the buying motion adds friction. If your tiered pricing requires a footnote explaining tokens, you're adding sand in the gears. A Tiered Pricing Checklist for AI Features Here's a simple way to apply this immediately: Good: Core workflow value, minimal AI (or AI where costs are predictable) Better: AI that boosts team output (speed, quality, throughput) Best: AI that drives outcomes at scale (automation, deflection, resolution) Add-on: Use when AI has a different value driver than the base product (example: per-resolution) Stay Connected: Join the Developreneur Community We invite you to join our community and share your coding journey with us. Whether you're a seasoned developer or just starting, there's always room to learn and grow together. Contact us at info@develpreneur.com with your questions, feedback, or suggestions for future episodes. Together, let's continue exploring the exciting world of software development. Additional Resources Setting Your Development Pricing Fixed or Hourly Project Pricing A Project Management and Pricing Guide for Success Building Better Foundations Podcast Videos – With Bonus Content
PPC Strategies for Small B2B Brands to Beat Big Competitors So many B2B companies and marketing teams waste budget on tactics that don't drive results or support core business goals. Smaller B2B brands often compete against much larger companies while working with less internal bandwidth, tighter budgets, and limited resources. The key being successful lies in their ability to be strategic, efficient, and resourceful despite these obvious constraints. So how can small B2B brands outmaneuver big competitors using PPC and smarter marketing strategies? That's why we're talking to Andy Janaitis (Founder and Chief Strategist, PPC Pitbulls), who shared his experience and PPC strategies for small B2B brands to beat big competitors. During our conversation, Andy discussed the importance of foundational B2B marketing elements like high-converting landing pages, automated email flows, and a well-structured PPC strategy. He highlighted why targeted messaging and measurement are essential to compete more effectively against competitors. Andy also underscored the value of understanding B2B audience pain points, having a well-designed website, and leveraging key metrics such as first-order profitability and customer lifetime growth. He emphasized the importance of transparency and authenticity in B2B marketing strategies and advocated for a data-driven approach that achieves scalable, profitable growth. https://youtu.be/DR6d_dFfnVI Topics discussed in episode: [03:06] The Small Brand Advantage: Why being smaller allows for more targeted messaging that resonates better than broad, big-brand ads. [05:05] Avoid the Testing Trap: Why splitting a small budget across too many creative tests leads to insufficient data and wasted spend. [07:14] Winning the Auction: How the real-time ad auction rewards quality and specificity, allowing you to pay less than big brands for premium placements. [09:50] The Conversion Ecosystem: The critical role of landing pages and automated email flows in nurturing leads who aren’t ready to buy yet. [14:58] 5 Essentials for Ad Readiness: A checklist of what you need (from audience understanding to goal clarity) before launching your first campaign. [21:55] AI in PPC: How AI-driven automation has powered platforms for years and where it is heading next. [25:34] Better Metrics: Why you should look past ROAS and focus on first-order profitability and customer lifetime growth. Companies and links mentioned: Andy Janaitis on LinkedIn PPC Pitbulls Transcript Andy Janaitis, Christian Klepp Andy Janaitis 00:00 If you’re sending people to a landing page that’s not built to convert, if it doesn’t have the social proof that gives somebody the trust in your product or your service, you may be able to get folks to your site, but they’re not ultimately going to purchase for you, and that’s just one other component. Something else we see all the time is email flows, so making sure that you have automated welcome flows, that if they don’t purchase the first time they’re on your site, they have a lower value touch point, whether it be downloading a free lead magnet or something like that, that brings them into your ecosystem and allows you to start nurturing the relationship over time. Those are two things that we see all the time, landing pages and email flows that are fundamentals that get overlooked and people say, hey, the ads aren’t working, you know, I gotta, you know, try more creative. I gotta keep tweaking. I gotta change, you know, the different structure that some YouTube Guru told me that I need to be running, when in reality, it’s like, no, there’s some key fundamentals that you’ve got to get right about your business first. And getting those things right is going to have 100 times more impact than tweaking little bits of the creative here and there. Christian Klepp 01:04 So many B2B companies and their marketing teams waste money on marketing that doesn’t match their business goals. They go up against much larger competitors, while also having to contend with limited budgets, resources and bandwidth. So how can smaller B2B brands outsmart their biggest counterparts and win? Welcome to this episode of the B2B Marketers on the Mission podcast, and I’m your host, Christian Klepp, today, I’ll be talking to Andy Janaitis, who will be answering this question. He’s the Founder and Chief Strategist of PPC Pitbulls, a boutique digital marketing agency that helps B2B businesses grow past seven figures through leveraging Google and Meta ads. Tune in to find out more about what the speed to be Marketers Mission is. All right, and off we go. Mr. Andy Janaitis, welcome to the show, sir. Andy Janaitis 01:50 Thanks for having me, Christian. Christian Klepp 01:51 Really enjoyed our pre-interview conversation, Andy. We talked about a lot of things that range from B2B Marketing to family and hobbies and the different cities that we’re living in, and what have you. But I am really looking forward to this conversation, because it’s something that I think a lot of people in the B2B Marketing world can relate to. And if they can’t relate, they should all right, so let’s dive right in, because I think this is going to be a really interesting conversation, right? Andy Janaitis 02:19 Definitely. Christian Klepp 02:20 Okay. So Andy, you’re on a Mission to help scale independent B2B brands with data driven Google and Meta ads. But for this conversation, I’d like to zero in on the topic of how smaller B2B brands can outsmart the bigger competitors by being strategic with PPC. If we’re going to use military terms, it almost sounds like you have to learn how to use Guerrilla warfare instead of conventional war tactics, right? So I’m going to kick-off the conversation with two questions, and I’m happy to repeat them all right? So the first question is, what is it about PPC or Pay Per Click that you wish more people understood? And the second question is, why do you think small brands fail when they try to copy big brand ad strategies? Andy Janaitis 03:06 There’s a lot, a lot there to unpack, and I think, you know, there’s, I think you touched on it there, but there’s a lot of anxiety among small brands. We work with Founders and Marketing Directors of these independent brands, and oftentimes there’s a fear of a Google Ads or Meta ads, because they say, Hey, there’s some big competitors out there in my space that are spending hundreds of thousands of dollars a month. And if I’ve got my little budget, if I’m trying to spend $5 or $10,000 a month, how do I have any chance of competing with them? You know, surely they’re going to outbid me on every single keyword, every single ad placement that I could be in, and what gets missed there is that you actually do have a big advantage in that being smaller. Your product probably has a smaller niche than you think, because you’re not distributed to everybody, you’re speaking to a smaller audience, which allows you to be much more targeted in your messaging. So in that way, where you might have some of these bigger brands that are, of course, way out investing, you that investment is being spread across so many different audiences and so many different placements, whereas you have the ability to say, Hey, I’ve got a limited budget. Let me only target, you know, the most likely people to purchase from me, and the people who are, you know, who I’m most likely to resonate with, and then give them a message that really speaks directly to them. So I think that’s the first and foremost thing to remember, is that you can take this, you know, supposedly disadvantage, and really turn it into an advantage when you when you focus in on, you know, who is your smallest, tightest, ideal client, that that you can target and speak to. I think that’s really, really important and gets missed and to your second question around, you know, the big brand tactics. I think a lot of times people see these in Instagram reels, LinkedIn posts that come up with a lot of different strategies that could work well, but are only going to work well on those larger budgets. So one great example of this. A lot of times I see people talking about creative testing and talking about needing we tested across 100 different assets, talk about, you know, let’s use AI so that we have the model in this particular influencer ad. You know, we can change the hair color and the shirt color and all these different combinations and test all these different things. The problem with that is, if you try that with a much smaller budget, you’re necessarily going to split, you know, the budget that many different ways. So say you run 100 different combinations, 100 different messages targets, you’re splitting your budget that many different ways, and you’re not building up enough data about any one of those individual combinations to make a good decision. So I always kind of tell people focus on the fundamentals. First worry about your top level messaging. What is it that really matters most and makes your product different, you know, and your really key differentiators to your to your most ideal audience, forget about, you know, button colors, or, you know, with these smaller budgets, don’t worry about testing. You know, what’s the color of the shirt that the model is wearing kind of thing, you know, you’ll have time to test those things in the future. But, you know, I think people get too caught up in those, those types of practices that, you know, big brands are spending a lot of time and money on and forget about, you know, the fundamentals themselves. Christian Klepp 06:35 Absolutely, absolutely. You brought up some really great points. I like to go back to like, two of them that you mentioned, I think the first one, short of getting too granular or getting too in the weeds, but you brought up something that I thought was really important to discuss further about, like the worry or the concern the Marketers have that people are gonna outbid us for those, for those keyboards, For example, talk us through, if you can, even from a top level perspective, how does a small B2B Company navigate through that? Because it sounds like it can. It can be an exercise that could potentially become very complex. Andy Janaitis 07:14 And the nice thing about this is it’s all automated these days. So, you know, realistically, when you are putting, you know, saying, hey, I want to run an Ad, whether it be on Google or on Meta. What’s happening is a real time auction where they’re saying, Hey, there’s this particular placement or this particular search, in the case of Google, so anybody who could possibly run an Ad on that, we’re going to let them, you know, put their ad forth and how much they’re willing to bid on it, and see, you know, who kind of gets in the top position and gets to show their ad. Now the thing that’s interesting there is it’s not based only on how much you’re about to pay for the ad. It’s also based on the quality of the ad, or how good of a match the ad is for that particular person or that particular search that’s coming in. And that’s where your ad can be more targeted, can be a higher quality ad, because it’s more specific. So you actually are going to be paying a little bit less for that placement than even some of these really big brands that are necessarily speaking a little bit broader language and not as niche down of a message. So that’s one, one big way. The other big thing is, as I mentioned, it’s in real time on every single on every single potential ad placement, or every potential search. So what that means is you probably aren’t going to compete with the big guys across all of the searches they’re running, but you don’t have to, because you may only show up, you know, you may only overlap in 5% of the placement. So where their budgets are going out there to every single potential placement or search that they could show up for, you only need to compete with them in that small, small percentage that is most relevant to your specific audience. Christian Klepp 08:55 Okay, fantastic, fantastic. Okay, second follow up question, and again, got to be careful, because we could potentially go down the deep rabbit hole with this one. But one thing that we all know about PPC is that there’s a lot behind it. And what I mean by that is, it shouldn’t be viewed as this one and done exercise. There’s a there’s a bit of an ecosystem behind it. And what I mean by that is, if somebody goes and sees the ad on Google or Meta and clicks on it, well, that clicks got to redirect people somewhere, right, be that a landing page or a website or whatnot, what’s on? What’s on the co you know, what kind of content are we talking about? What kind of CTA are we talking about? Walk us through that about why, why is it so important for B2B Marketers to understand that PPC is a component in this, this ecosystem? Andy Janaitis 09:50 That’s so, so important, and it’s, it’s important, especially as we talk about, you know, smaller brands, smaller budgets. You know, in that $10,000 to. $20,000 ad spend range. What we find is that, first of all, as you mentioned, it’s a holistic ecosystem. So, yeah, the ads are one part, and you got to make sure that you’ve got your ad copy, you’ve got your placements, you’ve got your you know, your strategy in the ad platforms down. But as you mentioned, if you’re sending people to a landing page that’s not built to convert, if it doesn’t have the social proof that gives somebody the trust in your product or your service. They’re not you may be able to get folks to your site, but they’re not ultimately going to purchase for you. And that’s just one other component. Something else we see all the time is email flows, so making sure that you have automated welcome flows, that if they don’t purchase the first time they’re on your site, they have a lower value touch point, whether it be downloading a free lead magnet or something like that, that brings them into your ecosystem and allows you to start nurturing the relationship over time. Those are two things that we see all the time, landing pages and email flows that are fundamentals that get overlooked. And people say, you know, hey, the ads aren’t working. You know, I gotta, you know, try more creative. I gotta, I gotta keep tweaking. I gotta change. You know, the the different structure that some YouTube Guru told me that I need to be running, when, in reality, it’s like, no, there’s some key fundamentals that you’ve got to get right about your business first. And getting those things right is going to have, you know, 100 times more impact than tweaking little bits of the creative here and there. Christian Klepp 11:26 You brought up one word that I think is worth repeating. It’s nurturing, right? Like, and I think that gets, um, that gets ignored or overlooked a lot in B2B, especially like, when, when the organization’s very sales driven. So it’s all about like, volume, volume, volume, right? Like we gotta, like, I mean, just to use the the old adage of like, you know, gonna hit that phone right, or pound the pavement and just get those numbers up right? But at the end of the day, especially if we’re talking about B2B, not everybody is ready to buy at the first contact. In fact, that would, I would almost go as far as to say, like, 97%, 98% of the time, they’re not, not, they’re not in buying mode, right? They’re probably still in an investigative mode. They’re still looking at what the options are out there. They’re probably doing their own research. That’s how they have landed on those ads. So it’s to your point. It’s so important to like, nurture that at that that lead rather in a non-pushy, non-intrusive way that helps to build that trust, to give them that confidence that this is, in fact, the right company that we should be perhaps having a conversation with, right? Andy Janaitis 12:33 Exactly, yeah, and I think sometimes people spend so much time on their messaging and their differentiators, and then they forget to tell their customers that, you know, they spent all this time working through what exactly it is that made their business better than the competitor. But if you don’t take the time to, you know, set up a welcome email flow it or, you know, build a presence on build an organic presence on Google, on Instagram or Facebook, you’re not necessarily getting that message out and giving people a chance to get to know you and fall in love with your brand. So I think that’s so, so important and often overlooked. Christian Klepp 13:12 Absolutely, absolutely. You brought up some of these already, but talk to us about some of these key pitfalls that Marketing Teams should be avoiding when it comes to PPC, and what should they be doing instead? Andy Janaitis 13:24 So we talked about a few of them. You know, some of the fundamentals that exist outside of the ad ecosystem. But one pitfall that I really want to focus on, that that is really closely tied to the ad ecosystem is measurement. So making sure that once somebody hit your site, you understand where they came from and ultimately what they did so that might be filling out a lead form. That might be purchasing a product, if you’re in kind of the E-commerce space, might be adding a product to their cart. You’ve got to make sure that you’re measuring all those independent events for two purposes, one, passing that data back to a Google or a Meta is the only way that those platforms can optimize and continue to get you better and better results. And two, you need to have that data to be able to report on and understand where your ad dollars are going and whether they’re working or not. That’s how you make the decision of, should I be putting more budget into Google or into Meta or hey, are neither of them working? And I got to try something totally different that’s often overlooked. We see clients coming to us that have spent untold amounts of money, and they’re not really even sure how it worked because they weren’t measuring it in the first place. So they’re just basing it on getting the cheapest clicks possible and not focusing on, you know, really optimizing for conversion? Christian Klepp 14:44 Yeah, no, absolutely. Those are, those are some very important points. In our last conversation, you talked about these five essentials that B2B brands need to have before they run their first ad campaign. Can you talk to us about that? Andy Janaitis 14:58 Yeah, definitely. I. So yeah, I’ll kind of walk through, and I don’t know if we’ll end up on four or six, but we’ll shoot for five here. The number one thing as you’re going through or selling online, obviously, you need to have an understanding of who your audience is and who you’re going to be targeting from that and what comes out of that is having an understanding of what are the main pain points that they have, and making sure that you’re speaking to those on a really well designed website that’s designed for, I say, designed for conversion, but what I mean by that is it helps guide somebody through that buyer’s journey, taking them from the point of just getting to know your brand to understanding what you do, to understanding how you solve their pain points, and then some social proof about why you’re better than others. So a you know, understanding your audience, having a well developed website that speaks to the audience, and importantly, speaks to the real symptoms and pain points that they’re dealing with, and how you can help solve them. Number three, I would say, is measurement. That’s, that’s a big piece that, you know, we just talked about in depth, but making sure you’re understanding once somebody hits the site, what are they, you know, what are they doing? Where are they going? What pages are they viewing? Do they ultimately fill out a lead form? Do they ultimately, you know, add the product to their cart and then leave? You’ve got to be able to measure what’s happening once they hit the site. Beyond that, I would say maybe, maybe item number four will group together a lot of those other fundamentals. So things that even outside of the website, things like a nurture flow and email, a presence on social, these are all so, so important, and even if you’re focused on paid ads running to a website to get a conversion, all of these other things are going to help that process. It’s a holistic marketing process, because we know today that people see you across a number of channels. It’s not that they’re only going to see your ad, come to your website, make a decision and buy. They’re going to, you know, hopefully see your ad later on, maybe see an organic post that you made on your socials. Maybe they bump into you at a trade show or a conference, and ultimately get to your website, make the decision there so making sure that those other fundamentals, like a an email nurture flow or a good organic social present are available, and then number five, and I think this is most important. And what I see people get wrong all the time is, understand your goals. So people will say, hey, I need to run ads. I want to run ads because I want more leads. Ultimately, you know, obviously we can, can run ads, and that could be an outcome. But if you’re not able to say, you know, what type of leads do you want, why are you not getting enough leads today? What’s your capacity? How many leads can you handle? You know, what type of behaviors are you trying to get more of, whether it be leads versus, you know, sales versus, you know, people buying a purchase or even downloading a lead magnet so that we can begin the nurture process. These are all viable, viable directions to go. And if you’re not thinking through specifically for your business, what’s the very specific goal that you that you have, and more importantly, what are the constraints you have? What’s your budget? What how much creative do you have available? Do you have a team on staff that can create more creative or work with your marketing strategy, understanding the goals and the constraints? A lot of people get caught up and just say, Hey, I got to run some ads and go for it. I want more revenue, when, in reality, there’s all these different nuances to it, and you really need to know what your specific goal is. Christian Klepp 18:39 Yeah, no, no, that’s great stuff. So let me just quickly recap for the benefit of the listeners, right? So you were talking about understand who the audience is, which is, which is imperative. I mean, you know, you almost shouldn’t start anything without knowing that, right? The second one was a well developed website, and I’ve got a follow up question for you on that one. Third one is measurement. So metrics like, know what to measure, and we will have a separate question about metrics later on in the conversation. Four is nurture, flow and email and organic and a presence on social. And the last one is understanding your goals, right? Like, what is it you want to achieve with this? Right? So on the topic of websites, when you say, well, developed website, I’m I have this feeling that you’re not referring to it’s got to be this incredibly expensive and complex website. That’s not what you’re talking about, right? Andy Janaitis 19:34 No and oftentimes, the simpler it is, the better it’s going to convert. So I think that’s really important what we think about. And I think the way I think of it is, in the old days, you might have a salesperson who’s going to get in front of a potential lead and then help kind of, you know, work through the objections they might have. So hey, you know, I’m not sure this might be a little too expensive for me. Or, Hey, I’m not sure if you know, you really serve people in my niche. Or if you know you you work with somebody, somebody different. I don’t know that this is a great fit for me. And the salesperson would have all the answers, right? They would say, hey, if this is their objection, this is how we answer that. If this is their objection, this is how we answer that. This is how we tell them about how we solve their problems. In today’s day and age, you may still have some sales people, but your website needs to do a lot of that work itself. So that’s what we need to think through is, what are all the things that a buyer needs to know before they’re ready to make that purchase and make sure that we’re putting that in front of them in a way that’s super easy to understand. A confused buyer is not a buyer. There’s a better way to use that statement. I’m sure you’ve probably heard that somebody, if they find confusion, they’re not going to be ultimately making a purchase with you. So make sure it’s really, really clear what is your product or service, how does it solve the customer’s problem? And hopefully some social proof too, and making sure that there’s some confidence that you’ve solved this problem for other people, like the potential buyer. Christian Klepp 20:57 And when you say social proof, you’re, of course, referring to things like in the form of case studies, testimonials, maybe even reviews on like platforms like Clutch and the like. Andy Janaitis 21:07 Exactly. All of those are great. You know, if you have a partner badge that, hey, you’ve done good work, or you’re certified to do particular work, that could be another one. If you’ve been featured in particular publications, that can be another one. But yeah, ultimately, all of these different ways that help give confidence that you can do the job. Christian Klepp 21:24 Fantastic, fantastic. You kind of scratch the surface a little bit in the beginning of the conversation, but PPC and AI, right? I mean, you kind of, you kind of cannot avoid this topic, right? Because it permeates across the entire marketing spectrum. But you know, from your perspective and in your experience, to what degree do you find AI harmful and helpful when it comes to PPC? Andy Janaitis 21:55 So I would say, on kind of the helpful side, and this is something that’s what’s interesting is we think of AI, you know, in the last, say, three years since chatGPT released, was it three? Five was the first, you know, kind of big milestone, breaking model where people said, Oh my gosh, this is, you know, this can really do a lot of, you know, can sound like a real human kind of thing. But long before that, AI has been implemented in these platforms, in Google and Meta, and for probably the last 10 years, we’ve been moving in the direction of more automation, more AI. So earlier, we talked about that ad auction, where every single time a keyword is searched or a placement pops up on Facebook or Instagram, you have to have a particular bid of how much you’re willing to spend to get your ad there. These days, you’re not putting any of those bids in manually. You’re just telling Meta or Google, hey, here’s the budget I want, and here’s the data coming from my website to let people know if they’re purchasing or filling out a lead form or not. And now Google or Meta, go out there and run with it. You know, go ahead and optimize with the ad assets that I’ve given you and the budget that I’ve given you. Go ahead and put me wherever you need to put me in order to get the most possible, you know, results, goals that that you can and that’s all AI driven. Then it’s been that way for a long time. We’ve been moving in that kind of direction. So that’s on the helpful side. That’s where, you know, AI is really driving, driving success for us. On the hurtful side. You know, you hear a lot of times people talking about, you know, now, especially in Google, when somebody makes a search, they’re getting the information. They’re getting an answer right up front. Or maybe they’re not even going to Google. Maybe they’re in ChatGPT or Perplexity, so, Christian Klepp 23:44 It’s a summary at the top right? Yeah. Andy Janaitis 23:47 Exactly, yeah. So they don’t even need to come to your website. From a PPC perspective, there’s not that click that you can go ahead and bid on and put your ad in front of, and that can be a concern, honestly, from a services and product perspective, I find that to be a little bit less of an issue. It’s definitely more of an issue for publishers. So if you have an information content kind of business that’s really harmful for you right now, because, you know, people are getting that information without ever having to make the click onto your website. But ultimately, if somebody is going to want to hire you for your services or buy one of your products, they still have to click through at some point. They’re not necessarily making that purchase, or they’re definitely not making that purchase out of the Google results summary. That being said, the other kind of big thing, and why I’m not super, super concerned about that development, is that whether it be on chatGPT or on Google, they really haven’t started monetizing yet, and that’s where I think you’re still going to see ads up in that area, we know that you’re going to be seeing ads up there. In fact, chatGPT is already hiring up and staffing up an ad organization, so it’s just going to be one more platform, one more area where you can run ads and get in. Front of your ideal customers. Because ultimately, you know, a subscription model can work to a degree, but you know, these companies, from an economic basis, need to have ads in order to kind of fund the type of growth that they that they need to see over the coming years. Christian Klepp 25:15 Yeah, yeah, no, absolutely, absolutely, all right, previously, like when we talked about this, you mentioned this one thing, right? Kind of sounds like a song, right? Like this one metric that every B2B brand must know before scaling. So what is it? And why do you think B2B brands should have it? Andy Janaitis 25:35 So I’ll maybe take a little bit of a cop out. And they’re a couple different metrics. You know, we, especially on the e-commerce side, we look at four key metrics. One of the people get caught up when they’re thinking about on in the PPC world, a lot of times, people talk about ROAs (Return On Ad Spend) or CPA (Cost Per Acquisition/Action). So ROAs would be the amount of revenue that you’re getting in for every ad dollar your spend return on ad spend and CPA would be cost per action, or essentially, you know, if somebody is looking to get lead forms filled out, how many dollars of ad spend are you putting in for every lead form that you’re getting filled out? And those can be important metrics, but they abstract away a lot of important nuance, and it’s very possible to look good in those metrics and still not make a ton of money. So we have these four key metrics, especially on the e-commerce side, that we focus in on, and it’s things like first order profitability. So yeah, your ROAs may be high, but if it’s a lot of people making repeat purchases, you may still be spending too much money to acquire that that first customer so first order profitability is going to be the first time somebody makes a purchase. Are you profitable? Or are you not? You know that that one individual purchase even before you start to look at customer lifetime growth. Is it profitable for you? Another key metric that we look at is that customer lifetime growth. So okay, perfect. You’ve profitably gotten that first purchase, but are you building enough customer lifetime value so that over time it’s going to pay off what you had to put in to acquire that customer in the first place. Another key one that really applies, whether it be e-commerce or elsewhere, is the percentage of your revenue, the percentage of your leads that are coming from organic channels versus paid channels. So we love to focus on the paid side. We help people find scalable, profitable results in the paid channels, but if you’re too over indexed in those, if you’re getting too much of your revenue or your leads from paid channels, that tells you that you’re probably paying a little bit too much for it. And you need to develop that organic you know, from your your social from people just finding you via regular old Google search, making sure that you’re not over indexed towards the paid channel, if you want to be able to scale that profitably. Christian Klepp 28:06 Okay, okay, well, there’s some really great points, and I’m glad that you pointed that out about like, you know how everybody is very obsessed with ROAs and CPA, but there are actually, in fact, other metrics that they really should be paying more attention to, or that need, that deserve some of that limelight as well. Right? Andy Janaitis 28:23 Exactly. Christian Klepp 28:24 Fantastic. So we get to the point in the conversation, my friend, where we’re talking about actionable tips, and you’ve given us a ton already within these past like, 30 minutes. But just imagine there’s a B2B Marketer out there that’s listening to this conversation between you and I, and there are three to five things that you can tell them. You know, you can take action on this right now, right after listening to this conversation, what would those things be? Andy Janaitis 28:48 Yeah. So first and foremost, we talked about your measurement. So the action there is use GA for Google Analytics. If you don’t have Google Analytics installed on your website already. Make sure you go ahead and get that installed. It’s a free tool. There’s some other paid tools that are better in certain ways. But you know, for my money, as you’re getting started out, Google Analytics is absolutely table stakes. You’ve got to have that installed on your site and set up properly to measure the behavior of what’s what’s happening on your site. If we’re talking PPC, similar to that, is making sure that everything is technically configured correctly, so that when somebody makes executes a behavior, makes a purchase, fills out a lead form, that data is getting back to, you know, either Google or Meta. So those are, you know, kind of the some of the key things that you got to do right out the gate and GA for Google Analytics. It’s a free tool, so there’s no, really no excuse not to have that set up. The other thing that I think is a first step that a lot of folks really got to got to figure out is getting crystal clear on who your customer is, what their main pain point that you can solve is. Is, and then ultimately, what’s your goal for for ads. So those kind of three, three components all tied together a lot of times. You know, we find people that are either, hey, we’re just looking for leads, but they can’t really give a good answer on, you know, who their customers or what type of leads would be a good lead for them. Or, you know, maybe they they’re really tight on who their customer is. And they say, Hey, we just, we just got to run some ads, but understanding kind of where ads fit into overall ecosystem. How are you doing organically? How do you close the leads once you get them you know? How often do people who make that first purchase end up coming back and making an additional purchase? Make sure you understand what you’re actually trying to get out of the ads. I think that’s probably the number one thing, and you can’t do that without the measurement piece that we that we discussed earlier. But I would really, you know, kind of start from a measurement component. Make sure you understand what’s happening when folks at your site, and then, before you spend $1 in paid ads, make sure you understand what you’re trying to get out of those paid ads and what gap in your marketing, you’re trying to solve. Christian Klepp 31:02 Absolutely, and it’s such a dangerous mindset to have that, you know, we just want to quickly do this right, and we just want to, like, generate some quick leads so we can show some numbers. But if you, you know, to your point, and you’ve raised it a couple of times in this conversation, if you don’t do this heavy lifting up front with understanding who your target audience is and understanding what the actual goals of this exercise are, then all of this is gonna go like, down the drain at some point, right? I mean, like, I’ll have to tell you, this is your this is your area of expertise. But if you don’t know what you’re doing with paid ads, that budgets gonna, like, evaporate fairly quickly. Andy Janaitis 31:40 Exactly, yeah. Christian Klepp 31:42 We’re gonna move on to the soapbox question. I’m gonna say I was, I was, I was trying to think about, well, how to describe this, but, yeah, that’s the best description. What is the status quo in your area of expertise that you passionately disagree with, and why? Andy Janaitis 32:02 That’s a great question. I think we talked about some of the individual components earlier. You know, folks kind of listening to Gurus, kind of coming we still to this day, you know, have clients, or prospective clients coming in and say, Hey, I saw this YouTube video that told me I’ve got to do this. And it’s, you know, just bad advice for them kind of thing, you know, where they didn’t really, you know, get that good advice and take it one step further to see how that fits for their specific business. I think that happens all too often. The other big thing that we, we see, especially in marketing in general, I think there’s a lot of suspicion of, you know, marketing, you know, we people are really, really looking for authenticity these days. And I think there’s a fear that, you know, marketing as an industry is all about telling lies or not giving, you know, an authentic answer, trying to trick somebody into buying a product or a service. And a lot of that, you know, it’s kind of our own fault, honestly. You know, there’s a lot of Gurus out there that give the industry a bad name, when in reality, you know, all of this is about you should have a valuable product or a valuable service, and what we’re doing, you know, whether it be via paid ads or organic or you know those email nurture flows is just educating The customer on how your product authentically solves their specific pain points. So I think that’s, you know, something I would really like to kind of dispel that myth that marketing agencies say, you know, are not able to, are all charlatans and not able to give you good, authentic support. You know, we like to kind of think of it almost like when you bring your car to a mechanic, that old trusted mechanic thing, right? You don’t know what’s going on under the hood. You don’t know what that clunking sound is. So you better find a mechanic that you can trust to shoot it to you straight, not sell you something you don’t need. We like to think of ourselves like that in the marketing world, you know, in a world where there’s a lot of suspicion of the practitioners, you know, making sure that you can find somebody who is transparent and that you can trust to tell you the truth, I think that’s, you know, there’s a lot of good people out there and a lot of a lot of good businesses, agencies out there, you know, I’d like to kind of, you know, dispel that myth that there isn’t, you know, a trustworthy marketing agency that can really help you, guide your business to success, and help you find, you know, find the right answers for you, not what’s just profitable for the agency. Christian Klepp 34:33 This is gonna sound so biased coming from me, but yes, I agree with you. There are some good Marketers out there, right? I mean, we have to believe that too, because, you know, not, not all of us are, are out there to, like, just, you know, make some quick profit. In fact, like the way that I work with my clients, I always say up front, honesty and transparency. Andy Janaitis 34:52 Exactly. Christian Klepp 34:53 You know. And every time they asked me for for advice and or what I would do in this situation, I always start. Answer by saying full transparency, right? This is how I would do it, or I wouldn’t recommend you do this right now, because it’s not a good user for your budget, for example, right? And we and we know that, and we know that there are agencies out there that wouldn’t do that, right? They won’t say that, right? They’ll just say, oh, yeah, absolutely, go do it. Okay? But those relationships don’t tend to last very long in my experience. Okay, so here comes the bonus question, and we talked a little bit about this before I hit record. But rumor has it that you started your agency three months before your first child was born. So the question is, what important lesson to that experience teach you, both personally and professionally, like, like, it was almost like there was, there were two things coming into this world at that point in time as a war, right? Andy Janaitis 35:51 Yeah, it’s a great question. And certainly there’s been, you know, a lot that I’ve learned from, you know, both the business and and the parenting journeys, you know, I think kind of the crossover there, you know, we think about, like, the time component, right? You know, there’s only so many hours in the day. One big thing is, it definitely gives you perspective. You know, we always think about, you know, the perspective, hey, family matters the most and kind of what it means to, you know, now I know what’s really important, as opposed to getting worried or bent out of shape about, you know, some of the little things. But I think that really applies to the whole, you know, the holistic person, and, you know, the whole lifestyle, whether it be, you know, how we spend time with family or how we spend time, you know, working on the business and growing the business, it really forces you, because you have a limited time horizon, you know, forces you to kind of really focus in on what’s most important and not waste your time on, you know, either spending time on the things that aren’t going to be impactful or don’t matter so much, and especially not wasting your worry and your anxiety on, you know, things that are going to solve themselves and you really don’t need to be worried about. Christian Klepp 37:04 And just my two cents worth, because we kind of both started our businesses around the same time, but it kind of teaches you to prioritize and manage your time a little bit better. Not that we didn’t know how to manage our time previously, but it’s a different type of time management, right? Like, time management to take care of the family and time management to, like, run the business. Right? Andy Janaitis 37:26 Exactly. Yep. Christian Klepp 37:28 Yeah. No. Fantastic, fantastic. Andy, this has been such a great conversation. I really enjoyed it. Thanks so much for coming on and for sharing your experience and expertise with the listeners. Please. Quick intro to yourself and how folks out there can get in touch with you. Andy Janaitis 37:43 Yeah, so we’re at ppcpitbulls.com at PPC Pitbulls. We’re really focused on helping e-commerce Directors, Marketing Directors, and just small businesses in general, figure out, you know, kind of demystify the world of digital marketing, and go from confused, not knowing where the next dollars are going to come in, to having a really good, stable strategy, and, you know, confidence in, you know, a strategy for profitable growth. So if you want to learn more, come check us out. We’ll actually have a special page, ppcpitbulls.com/mission, and that will be for listeners of this particular podcast. I talked about those four key metrics that we really care about. We’ve got that all put down in kind of a self guide that you can go through. We call it our paid ads reality checklist you can go through step by step. And I’ll show you exactly how to calculate each one of those metrics and how to analyze it on the back end. If that’s too much for you, can always just book a time with me too. I love sitting down with and meeting new small businesses, learning about your niche and you know, talking about where you can go next with your digital marketing. Christian Klepp 38:52 Fantastic, fantastic. So once again, Andy, thanks so much for coming on. Take care, stay safe and talk to you soon. Andy Janaitis 38:59 Talk to you soon. Thanks for having me.
#323 | Anthony Pierri from Fletch PMM joins Dave to talk about what actually matters in B2B positioning and messaging. They break down how to think about value props, why buyers don't care about your features, and what makes a homepage instantly click. Anthony shares lessons on positioning from working with hundreds of early-stage B2B SaaS companies and explains how to connect real customer problems to clear outcomes. Join 50,0000 people who get Dave's Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/***Brought to you by:Optimizely - A no-code AI platform where autonomous agents execute marketing work across webpages, email, SEO, and campaigns. Get a free, personalized 45-minute AI workshop to help you identify the best AI use cases for your marketing team and map out where agents can save you time at optimizely.com/exitfive. AirOps - The content engineering platform that helps marketers create and maintain high-quality, on-brand content that wins AI search. Go to airops.com/exitfive to start creating content that reflects your expertise, stays true to your brand, and is engineered for performance across human and AI discovery.Visit exitfive.com/retreat to apply for Exit Five's first-ever, in-person Marketing Leadership Retreat, March 18–20, 2026 in Scottsdale, Arizona. Join 100 CMOs and VPs of Marketing from companies like like Zoom, Snowflake, Manychat, Bitly, G2, HP, and more for two days of thinking bigger around a trusted group of peers in marketing. ***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more
B2B marketing doesn't have to mean mediocre design, generic messaging, and content no one reads. In this episode of Pipe Dream, host Jason Bradwell sits down with Dmitry Shamis - former HubSpot creative leader and founder of OhSnap!, a brand systems agency helping marketers build creative that's both scalable and standout. Dmitry gets brutally honest about channels - 95% of his business comes from LinkedIn. Not just frameworks and case studies, but gardening updates and dumb kid stories. Because you want to work with people you actually like. This sparks a great discussion about the line between being human and being cringey (looking at you, banana peel LinkedIn posts). Jason throws him a hypothetical: $50K to build an audience, what do you do? Dmitry's answer: invest in brand systems. When you have templates ready, you focus on what you say, not how it looks. That's the foundation for everything else. They circle back to AI. What are we catastrophizing? The "you wrote this with AI" police. If the work is good, it's good. The real danger? People getting lazy and outsourcing their thinking. Dmitry's mantra: never outsource your thinking. His desk is covered with notebooks because side thoughts never make it into transcripts. He comes to AI with a fully baked idea - he doesn't ask it what the story is. They close with Dmitry shouting out Jess Cook at Vector for building a personality-led brand without a massive budget - a perfect blueprint for scrappy B2B teams. If you're feeling pressure to create more, post more, be everywhere, this is your reality check. The future isn't volume - it's consistent quality that resonates. Whether startup or enterprise, Dmitry's principles on brand systems and intentional content will help you build smarter operations. Expect practical advice, real talk, and a little fun along the way. Whether you're scaling a startup or running creative at an enterprise brand, this episode will help you build smarter, more sustainable content operations - and create marketing that actually moves people. 00:00 – Intro: Scaling creative without burnout 01:30 – What Dmitry learned running creative at HubSpot 03:00 – The rise of brand systems in B2B marketing 06:00 – Using AI to remove the busywork (not the thinking) 08:00 – Why most content fails (and what to do instead) 10:00 – How to make LinkedIn actually work for your brand 13:30 – Authenticity vs cringe: Finding your tone online 17:00 – Stop chasing impressions. Start tracking DMs. 21:00 – The forgotten power of adding a CTA to content 24:00 – How to stay creative with systems and structure 27:00 – AI fear factor: What should marketers *really* worry about? 30:00 – The antidote to lazy content in the AI age 33:00 – B2B brands and creators Dmitry admires 36:00 – Where to find Dmitry and more resources Connect with Jason Bradwell on LinkedIn Connect with Dmitry Shamis on LinkedIn Visit OhSnap! agency Visit The Brief Creative newsletter What's Your Process? podcast on Spotify and Apple. More at B2B Better website and the Pipe Dream podcast
Supersede manufactures structural building products from recycled industrial and agricultural plastic waste, creating drop-in replacements for plywood and OSB. What makes their approach notable isn't the environmental mission - it's the deliberate market sequencing strategy that let them reach the top 10 boat builders globally within months of launch. CEO and Co-Founder Sean Petterson, whose father died on a construction job and who previously built and sold a construction safety equipment company, knew the construction market's reputation for slow adoption would kill them before they could prove their product. So instead of pitching the $12B+ annual US construction market directly, they started with marine applications where regulatory pressure, product toxicity issues, and performance failures created urgent buying windows. In this episode, Sean breaks down how they used trade show metrics to validate product-market fit, why they're absorbing shipping costs to prove regional demand before building plants, and the operational art of scaling manufacturing capacity against pipeline conversion timing. Topics Discussed: Strategic market entry: why marine and RV serve as proving grounds and revenue generators before construction How material properties (waterproof, high density, VOC-free) dictated target application selection The regulatory catalyst: California's formaldehyde ban creating electrolysis problems in boat transoms Trade show execution at IBEX Tampa: converting sustainability pavilion traffic into top 10 builder partnerships Multi-plant expansion strategy: Phoenix for marine, Indiana for RV proximity to Elkhart manufacturing hub The timing challenge: balancing capex on new production lines against uncertain customer adoption curves Using shipping cost absorption as market validation before committing to regional manufacturing Product thickness decisions and the constraint of running 24/7 production on single SKUs Long-term infrastructure goal: lights-out factories in every state to hit 10% US market share GTM Lessons For B2B Founders: Map product attributes to urgent pain points, not general market needs: Sean's framework was ruthlessly specific—Supersede's material is waterproof, twice as dense as wood, VOC-free, and has superior fastener retention. Rather than positioning these as generic benefits, they mapped each attribute to acute pain: marine grade plywood costs 3-4x more, leaches formaldehyde and CCAs into water, and California's new regulations were causing electrolysis that corrodes aluminum transoms. This isn't marketing positioning—it's matching physics to procurement urgency. Founders should inventory their product's fundamental characteristics and find markets where each one solves an active crisis. Use expensive distribution as a validation tool before infrastructure investment: Supersede services Florida boat builders from their Phoenix plant despite shipping costs destroying margins. This is intentional—they're paying for market intelligence. Only after customers move from single units to full product lines do they commit manufacturing capex to that region. Sean's calculus: "As long as we have enough comfort in the unit economics to manage shipping costs, we can explore how markets look before sinking too much in." Most founders optimize for margin too early. Supersede optimizes for learning, treating distribution costs as cheaper than building the wrong plant in the wrong location. Create credibility through extreme durability testing, then cascade down: Sean describes pontoon boats with twin 300hp motors hitting 60mph over waves as their "value proposition crucible." This isn't about marine market success—it's about creating an unarguable proof point for every downstream market. When they enter construction, they won't debate whether their product can handle a roof load; they'll show years of data from conditions that make construction look gentle. The insight: win in the most punishing environment first, then every easier application becomes a layup. Most founders do the opposite—start easy, then struggle with credibility when moving upmarket. Sequence markets by sales motion similarity, not revenue size: The marine-to-RV-to-construction path isn't about market size—it's about operational leverage. Sean notes RV has "the same exact process, except they move a little quicker" as marine. Both are concentrated geographies (marine in Florida, RV in Elkhart), both have OEM buyers making high-volume decisions, both value durability and water resistance. This lets them reuse sales playbooks while building revenue. Construction, despite being 10x larger, requires completely different distribution (retail + wholesale), longer approval cycles (two years for major projects), and more diverse buyer personas (contractors, architects, developers, retailers). The sequencing strategy funds the capability build they'll need for construction without the distraction of learning three different GTM motions simultaneously. Treat trade shows as validation metrics, not lead generation: Supersede tracked specific conference-provided data at IBEX: highest searched booth, highest saved, most traffic despite being in the "sustainability pavilion" that attendees typically skip. They didn't just collect business cards—they validated that their value proposition resonated at scale before committing to a multi-plant buildout. Sean converted this signal into partnerships with all top 10 builders by volume within the show cycle. The lesson: use trade shows as market research tools with quantifiable success metrics, not as top-of-funnel activities. If you can't win a trade show in your target segment, you're not ready to scale. Balance production constraints against customer optionality to force prioritization: Supersede faces a counterintuitive challenge—they have demand for multiple product thicknesses but can only run 24/7 production on one thickness per line to maintain efficiency. This forces brutal customer prioritization decisions. As Sean puts it: "Which customer we like better." Rather than viewing this as a problem, recognize it as a focusing mechanism. Resource constraints force you to choose customers who value your core offering most rather than customizing yourself into complexity. Most founders try to serve everyone before proving they can serve anyone exceptionally. // Sponsors: Front Lines — We help B2B tech companies launch, manage, and grow podcasts that drive demand, awareness, and thought leadership. www.FrontLines.io The Global Talent Co. — We help tech startups find, vet, hire, pay, and retain amazing marketing talent that costs 50-70% less than the US & Europe. www.GlobalTalent.co // Don't Miss: New Podcast Series — How I Hire Senior GTM leaders share the tactical hiring frameworks they use to build winning revenue teams. 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SaaS Revolution Show with Alex Theuma and Andrew Zhyvolovych, CEO and Founder of Precoro. Together, they unpack a 10-year journey of building a B2B SaaS business to nearly $10M in ARR. Andrew shares how his early career in car sales, finance, and Groupon shaped his mindset as a founder, and how those lessons helped him build Precoro through disciplined execution, customer-funded growth, and a strong “sports team” culture. You'll learn: - How Precoro grew from idea to nearly $10M ARR - Why revenue is the best form of market validation - How to build and motivate a high-performance team - What AI really means for B2B SaaS today - Why cold calling is making a comeback - How Andrew plans to scale to $100M ARR This episode is packed with practical insights for SaaS founders, operators, and anyone building a serious B2B business. Check out the other ways SaaStock is helping SaaS founders move their business forward:
In this episode, Rich breaks down the wild story of Fathom's launch. He reveals how they secured a prime spot on the Zoom Marketplace and generated 100,000 signups in 30 days—only to realize 99.9% of them were useless. He discusses the pivot to monetization when the market crashed, how to design a product for viral loops, and why staying in private beta for 10 months was the best decision he ever made.Why You Should ListenWhy getting 100,000 signups in a single month nearly killed the company.How to use the "Iceberg Strategy" to build a defensible moat.Why you should attack the "800-pound gorilla" incumbent.How to hit $100k ARR by selling a roadmap that doesn't exist yet.The "Visible Feature" mechanic that drives zero-cost viral growth in B2B.Keywordsstartup podcast, startup podcast for founders, viral growth, product market fit, AI startup, freemium strategy, Zoom marketplace, PLG, B2B sales, Fathom00:00:00 Intro00:03:14 Why Sales Reps Hated Gong00:07:54 Betting on Transcription Costs Going to Zero00:11:52 The 10 Month Private Beta Strategy00:17:46 The Zoom Marketplace Launch00:19:52 100k Signups and Zero Growth00:26:39 Selling a Roadmap to Hit 100k ARR00:33:53 The Viral Loop of Visible Bots00:36:12 Why Enterprise Sales Was a Trap00:39:51 The Moment of True Product Market FitSend me a message to let me know what you think!
They aren't me! That was a realization I came to in my first management job. It transformed my career by changing my expectations. It could be the same for you. Let's unpack that. ********************************************************************************************** Dave Kahle is a B2B sales expert and a Christian Business thought leader. He has authored 13 books, presented in 47 states and 11 countries and worked with over 500 sales organizations. In these ten-minute podcasts, his unique blend of out-of-the-box thinking and practical insights will challenge and enable you to sell better, lead better and live better. Subscribe to these ten-minute helpings of out-of-the-box inspiration, education and motivation. WWW,DaveKahle.com Dave's Substack page Subscribe to Dave's Newsletters Free Goal Setting Thinking Path
Most deals aren't lost because of price.They're lost because sellers rush discovery.In this episode of Revenue Leaders, we break down a real deal win where deep discovery, buying-group alignment, and a slower sales process beat larger, more established competitors.You'll learn:Why deep discovery creates confidence in buying decisionsHow involving multiple stakeholders reduces deal riskWhy surface-level discovery kills dealsHow to slow down the sales process and win more consistentlyWhy it's not what you sell — it's how you sellIf you sell complex or B2B deals, manage sales teams, or lead go-to-market strategy, this episode is for you.⭐ Unlock free resources (templates, frameworks & prompts):https://coachpilot.beehiiv.com/Join the community & access 157+ templates, frameworks and mega AI prompts used by top revenue teams.Watch Full Episode on YouTube:https://www.youtube.com/@revenueleadersFollow us:https://www.instagram.com/davidfastuca/
PC spending has seen a significant rebound, with Gartner reporting a 9.3% rise in worldwide PC shipments in late 2025, primarily driven by corporate IT upgrades to meet Windows 11 requirements. This recovery, which saw 10.1% growth in Q4 2025 according to Omnia data, highlights a shift from consumer-led demand to necessity-driven upgrades. Despite supply chain challenges in memory and storage, leading to cost increases, 57% of B2B partners anticipate growth in their PC business, underscoring a sustained demand for hardware management and support among MSPs.Concurrently, worldwide spending on artificial intelligence is projected to reach approximately $2.5 trillion by 2026, a 44% increase from the previous year, according to Gartner. This surge is fueled by substantial investments in AI infrastructure, which is expected to account for $1.37 trillion of the total spending. John David Lovelock of Gartner emphasizes that AI adoption success hinges not only on financial investment but also on organizational maturity and self-awareness, suggesting that the value derived from this investment is not yet as certain as the spending itself. For MSPs, this indicates a growing need to navigate the complexities of AI infrastructure deployment and demonstrate tangible value to clients.In the realm of managed services, recent strategic moves by several companies signal an evolving MSP landscape. Corsica Technologies announced 105% year-over-year growth in managed services bookings for 2025 and expanded its portfolio through acquisition, aiming for consolidation and integrated offerings. Net at Work nearly doubled its managed services division size by acquiring a regional competitor, prioritizing scale. Rhubarb IT, spun out from Mac Center, is focusing on a niche Apple-focused IT managed services model, aiming for differentiation. These expansions highlight varying strategies—consolidation, scale, and specialization—that MSPs must consider when evaluating market opportunities and competitive positioning.The implications for MSPs are multi-faceted. The PC market's recovery emphasizes the continued importance of hardware lifecycle management and support services. The explosive growth in AI spending necessitates careful evaluation of infrastructure versus value, with potential risks for organizations rushing capacity purchases without clear demand justification. Furthermore, the diverse expansion strategies among MSPs underscore the need for clear operational, contractual, and financial planning to manage integration, delivery consistency, and customer expectations. The appointment of Rob Rae as a strategic advisor to Guards highlights the critical need for transparency in vendor relationships, particularly concerning incentives, as undisclosed financial arrangements can introduce bias and risk for MSPs who rely on objective evaluation of technologies and partners. Four things to know today 00:00 PC Spending Reflects Operational Necessity While AI Spending Bets on Unproven Demand03:57 OpenAI Promises to Offset Energy and Water Impact as AI Infrastructure Outpaces Regulation05:45 MSP Growth Paths Diverge as Corsica, Net at Work, and Rhubarb IT Make Different Strategic Bets09:09 Guardz's Rob Rae Advisory Appointment Raises Transparency and Governance Questions for MSPs This is the Business of Tech. Supported by: https://cometbackup.com/?utm_source=mspradio&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=sponsorship
Databox is an easy-to-use Analytics Platform for growing businesses. We make it easy to centralize and view your entire company's marketing, sales, revenue, and product data in one place, so you always know how you're performing. Learn More About DataboxSubscribe to our newsletter for episode summaries, benchmark data, and moreRodrigo Fernandez has helped 400+ SaaS companies drive over $1B in self-serve revenue and he's seen one problem kill growth over and over again: no one truly owns activation.In this episode, Rodrigo breaks down:Why “activation” is almost always misdefined (and who should actually define it)How teams confuse activity with value — and what to track insteadThe fatal flaws in bottom-up metrics and AI gimmicksWhat a real product activation journey looks like (solar system analogy and all)Why most PLG stacks are noisy, bloated, and doomed from the startIf you're stuck at $10M and can't see a path to $20M, this might be why.
Send us a textWhen there's no handbook for building a career, you rely on tenacity, positivity, and education. David Gavin learned retail marketing the hard way: by watching, asking questions, and looking for the white space everyone else ignored.In this episode, Danny sits down with his uncle, David Gavin, a worldwide sales and merchandising consultant who went from navigating apartheid-era South Africa to becoming a strategic force in North American jewelry retail. David shares how focusing on what competitors aren't doing beats racing to the bottom of price, how mentors who throw you in the deep end can change your career trajectory forever, and how the true mark of a salesperson isn't the sum of a set of soft skills, it's how you connect with people.Episode Highlights: Success comes from identifying white space, the opportunities competitors overlook, rather than fighting over what everyone else is already doing.PowerPoint presentations aren't just sales tools; they're strategic frameworks that help clients see concepts they couldn't articulate themselves.Calculated risk-taking means being willing to leave comfort behind when you see a bigger opportunity, even if the path isn't clear.Mentorship often looks like being thrown into the deep end with people who believe you'll figure out how to swim.Retail success requires understanding both the corporate and independent sides of the business, and being willing to walk into stores and observe what's actually happening.Episode Links: David Gavin on LinkedInDavid Greg WebsiteRapaport Magazine: The Rise of Desert DiamondsFollow The Digital Marketing Mentor: Website and Blog: thedmmentor.com Instagram: @thedmmentor Linkedin: @thedmmentor YouTube: @thedmmentor Interested in Digital Marketing Services, Careers, or Courses? Check out more from the TDMM Family: Optidge.com - Full Service Digital Marketing Agency specializing in SEO, PPC, Paid Social, and Lead Generation efforts for established B2C and B2B businesses and organizations. ODEOacademy.com - Digital Marketing online education and course platform. ODEO gives you solid digital marketing knowledge to launch/boost your career or understand your business's digital marketing strategy.
Brand naming in 2026 is more complex, and more critical, than ever.David Placek, founder of Lexicon Branding (the team behind names like Swiffer, BlackBerry, Sonos, and Dasani), joins Focus Lab CEO Bill Kenney to explore the new frontiers of naming: from AI-driven processes and trademark saturation to global naming challenges and evolving consumer expectations.What you'll learn:How AI is reshaping naming workflows and client expectationsWhen a rename makes strategic sense (and when it doesn't)Why global names must be distinct, ownable, and emotionally resonantWhat's changed — and what still holds true — in naming todayWhether you're a CMO, founder, or brand strategist, this episode unpacks how to make smarter, more future-proof naming decisions.---Focus Lab is an established B2B brand agency that believes, without question, that the most successful companies are the ones who invest in branding. Focus Lab creates transformative B2B brands that resonate with their customers and stand out as industry leaders. Through a proven process and a shared commitment to create unforgettable experiences, we develop true partnerships that help B2B brands become their boldest, most original selves.---Stay in Touch:Subscribe to our newsletterFollow us on LinkedInFollow us on Instagram