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[As heard on WGAN 2021-07-07] Good morning, everybody. We've got this massive attack underway. It's hitting businesses, and they're using supply chain attacks just like they did with Solar Winds. However, this one might actually be a little more fatal. A lot of businesses out there. So we talked about that this morning—this Kaseya hack. [00:00:21] We also talked about selling your smart device. Is it a good thing? I got a report from a listener about a whole bunch of Amazon orders that they had not made. So I'll tell you a little bit about that. And also, IRS looks like there might've been a data breach of what's going on. And frankly, what is the Biden administration proposing? [00:00:47] That's going to make things way worse when it comes to data breaches at the I R S in the future. So here we go with Mr. Matt Gagnon. [00:00:57] Matt Gagnon: And we're back 7:36 WGAN morning news. A pleasure to have you on this fine Wednesday morning. Thanks for listening. Craig Peterson, our tech guru joins us every Wednesday at this time. [00:01:07] And of course you also hear them on this very station on Saturdays at one o'clock Craig, Welcome back to the program. Good to talk to you as well. [00:01:14] Craig Peterson: [00:01:14] Hey, thanks. Glad to be here. Have a great independence day with the family. They all came in from literally all over the world. So it was cool. Yes, indeed. [00:01:24]Matt Gagnon: [00:01:24] I hope you had a good one and and thanks for joining us now on this July 7th. So Craig, I know that we have, obviously every week we have a, some, topics that we want to chat about, but I did want to bring up this big gigantic. That happened as well. If you don't mind going off script a little bit here and talking about what what what we're learning about this stuff. [00:01:41] I was just checking out some stuff this morning about how it still remains unclear how many businesses were actually hit by this gigantic ransomware attack. And and of course now, Demands for $70 million and everything else. It's all very reminiscent of earlier tax in the year where we paid ransom. [00:01:59] And then you got, keys to decode things and it didn't even really work. And then they had to do it their own way. It's just part of this evolving story that is ransomware attacks. It seems to be getting worse and worse. And I just wanted to maybe get your thoughts on the effect of this. [00:02:12] And is it getting worse? Is, are we going to see more? Yeah. [00:02:15]What we're looking at is called a supply chain attack. So think of maybe a company that makes boxes for instance, and they, of course they need stuff from the supply chain. They're going to have glue. They're going to have staples are going to have various other things. [00:02:31] And they trust the, the incoming staples and glue, et cetera, are going to hold the boxes together. That's what we're seeing here. We're seeing a company in this case, it's a technology firm called  they're based down in Florida that provides services for businesses and governments, world wide. [00:02:52] And the beautiful thinking about this from the hacker standpoint is they don't have to hack a hundred thousand companies. All they have to do is hack. Company and that's cause say, yeah. So cause they provide services for managed services providers. These are the, it shops, the businesses that you're using to manage your computers, your networks, your security, and the software. [00:03:22] This can say a thought. Has full administrative rights to these networks. So if you can compromise one piece of software, you now have the ability to compromise a hundred thousand businesses and install ransomware steal information. Ever you want to do so we're still not sure as you pointed out what the actual ultimate problems are going to be for businesses because not only managed services providers use cause say, but so do government agencies, we. [00:04:00] Major problems in Sweden were major. Portions of their economy were completely shut down, including mass transit. We've seen these problems before. And what happened really is people are putting their trust in these managed services provider, which I'm one, that's what we do for businesses. We do it for everything from doctor's office. [00:04:25] All the way through government contractors, DOD contractors, but we do not use these tools because they are not safe. We have some of our own that are completely isolated. We've got to really change what we're doing because. Is absolutely huge. And we really just don't know what the ultimate problem or, the results of this damage is going to be. [00:04:54] It's very scary stuff. Obviously a brave new world. We live in Craig Peterson, our tech guru joins us on Wednesdays at this time. Craig, moving on to other stories here. Been frustrating for me to wait for the tax man, the IRS to actually get me back my refund. I still don't have it. I'm one of, one of those people that still has been a Saturday sitting here waiting and delaying and blah, blah, blah, et cetera. [00:05:16]But our tax system, really works on trust, right? Trust that your data and information will be more or less secure with the IRS trust that the IRS is actually going to give you back the money you deserve when you file your taxes correctly, lots of trust involved in the system. But what happens then when the IRS itself has a data breach, all that information, all that stuff, I keep handing them every year is now basically open it's open season on that. [00:05:40]That's not a good thing. [00:05:42] Craig Peterson: [00:05:42] No, it's not, they know your family status. You're filing joint married or separate, whatever might be of what businesses you do business with, because that has to be disclosed. When you're saying this is where the income comes from, what debt you have. Medical or disability status and just a whole bunch of other things this year, including whether or not you have been toying and you've made money off of Bitcoin. [00:06:07] So all of that goes into databases and we're really concerned right now because president Biden has said that he is going to have the IRS. Force disclosure of even more sensitive information on almost every American taxpayer. So this is part of the government gathering, everything going in and out of our accounts. [00:06:34] In fact, the Biden administration is now trying to get the banks to report any transaction that anyone makes a more than $600. Which is turning our banks and financial institutions into full time, basically IRS agents, which is a real problem. So ProPublica published a story that had information that was only a bit. [00:07:00] Through the tax records and named a number of people and some private information. So we're not exactly sure what's happened here. Obviously, if the IRS might have been breached, it might be some insiders that are releasing information to her political opponents, which is not what the IRS is supposed to be doing, but we have all of this data. [00:07:26] You can. The IRS is a major target of Russia and China already has all of the background checks for secret clearance and above of every federal government employee and military member as of a couple of years ago. So it's a huge target. I don't like the idea of the government requiring even more information going to them because it's going to become a huge or. [00:07:54] Matt Gagnon: [00:07:54] And finally, Greg, I also want to ask about this this story that I was reading about selling your Amazon echo, your Google home any sort of device like this. I know a lot of people have privacy concerns, you go to sell it, right? Does your information go with it? [00:08:10]Should you be. Doing something special factory wipes or something beyond that, maybe hitting it with a sledgehammer. What should I be doing in order to make sure that my information is not handed on to the next group of people that have my stuff? [00:08:22]Craig Peterson: [00:08:22] There was a little bit of a study that was just done where this group went online and bought a number of these devices. [00:08:29] The Amazon echo was, you mentioned. Google home devices and a few others. This is at Northeastern university and they got almost a hundred of them from E-bay and the flea market. And then they started to have a look at them. The first thing you should do, if you are going to resell them is do a factory reset. [00:08:50] And that makes it a lot harder for people to get information off of them. But it is frankly, between you and me. It's very easy. Even after a factory reset to pull off information like the wifi information, the location that the device was used at the, even the account information of the person that had the. [00:09:15] Device. And I have actually had a listener that contacted me saying my Amazon account now has been hacked and has been used to order stuff. And so they worked with the fraud department at Amazon to figure out what had happened. And according to this listener, the front department reported back that they had ordered things from their Amazon echo device. [00:09:39] They had sold online app. A factory wipe. So you mentioned the sledgehammer trick and that is very effective at that, but I'm worried about these. I don't think I would resell mine. I think I would destroy them. But the big thing that you have to worry about are the hard desks and storage devices that are on our computers. [00:10:07] Take a drink. Drill three holes safely into the disc area, the round area on a desk, and pretty much anywhere in the center, if it's an SSD, if it's one of these solid state desks and make some nice big holes in it and throw it out in the trash, we actually remove the platters from the desk and we melt them down. [00:10:30] We have a furnace, we melt them in for our client. That's the only thing. That's a hundred percent, but the. Put a nice drill through those hard disks or SSDs and a sledgehammer to these smart drives are not smart. Drive smart devices and you'll feel much better as long as you do it safely. Get a little aggression out too. [00:10:51] Matt Gagnon: [00:10:51] Indeed. All right. Craig Peterson never have aggressive feelings when you joined the program. Always good to talk to you and get the lowdown on technological stories. Appreciate it. Good luck on Saturday, of course. And we'll talk to you again next week, sir.

As Heard On WGIR - 2021-05-17 Hi, everybody, Craig Peterson here. I'm not quite sure how to describe this interview, but you're going to find out something about me you may not have known and it's not a bad thing. It's just, I've never really disclosed it. Certainly not publicly. Anyhow. So we talked today about the colonial pipeline what's happening with these ransomware groups and there are a number of them and why. Why is it happening? And then also of course, over the weekend, there's a little bit of discussion with Marco Rubio and others on 60 minutes, I think it was about UFO's. So I guess there's a clue. So here we go with Mr. Chris, Ryan Stanford.  I am Chris Ryan joining us right now is Craig Peterson. He is the host of tech talk. On Saturdays and Sundays at 11:30 AM on news radio six, 10 and 96 seven Craig area.  Hey, good morning. That's a nice kickoff there with the stones.  Love to hear it. We really do. And there's nothing better. Little Keith Richards riff to get us into the mood here on this Monday morning cross the great state of New Hampshire. So Craig. It's amazing how our news cycle works. We have the colonial pipeline is one of the biggest and maybe most significant stories that we've had so far this year. And we talked about this actually, Liz Cheney as well. When she joined us on Friday to me, there has to be a priority. And a predominance of focus placed upon cyber warfare and germ warfare and electromagnetic warfare. We're hearing about, UFO's and that report from 60 minutes, which I think is really important as well. I It's clear now that there are. UFO's used to be. The question was, do they exist? The answer is, yeah, they do, because we have video evidence of them and people have seen him at firsthand accounts. So those are the two things we're going to get delve into today. And I want to start with your takeaways from the colonial pipeline circumstance.  I talked about it a lot on the radio show this last weekend. Cause it is a change. It really reflects a change in the way ransomware works too. And over the weekend we saw a big change yet. Again, ransomware used to be just, they got software on your machine. Usually through. Phishing, which is sending you an email, getting on something, and then they'd encrypt all of your files and say, pay up sucker, if you want access to your files again. And then it moved to the next stage, which was people didn't always pay off because they might have backups and say we can just restore from backups for Canada better. We're not paying you a dime. They decided maybe what we should do then is get a little more. Vance. And before we encrypt your files, we're going to steal all of your important data. And then we're going to hold that data hostage and threatened to release it just like they did with the metropolitan police department down in Washington, Jen DC. And yes, indeed. They did release home information about the police officers in the metropolitan police department right down there in Washington, DC, because they didn't pay this ransom. Now, what we have is something called dark side, which is a group that's been around for almost a year. And they sell services to other bad guys who want to rent some people. So dark side, we'll take a 25% cut all the way down to 10%. They have it on their website, depending on how much money you're able to get out of. People twenty-five percent cut on anything under about $5 million and they'll do tech support for you and everything else. So when you take over someone's computer and they are now trying to pay you buy Bitcoin, et cetera, in order to do that dark side, we'll do the tech support. It turns out the dark side was behind this hack of the colonial pipeline. And ArcSight is now a little bit nervous. They brought their website down. Of course it's on the dark web has two other major operations that are again, ransomware for hire. So we've seen three major groups. Chris go completely dark over the weekend. What does that mean as well? Are they nervous that what are they nervous about in particular? Are they nervous about the FBI? Are they nervous about, and does the FBI have. No jurisdiction over a cause that's one of the main challenges for whether it's for local police departments or for even an entity like the FBI, where there's a international type of a flavor to these many of these entities, how, who has jurisdiction over them? How do you. How do you make them accountable? And how does things have to change in order for that to take place?  Part of what drove up the value of Bitcoins so high and continues to our businesses who are buying Bitcoin in case they get ransom. So that obviously supply and demand limited supply of Bitcoin businesses buying right. Bitcoin by the millions in case they ever get hacked. And look at what just happened with Tesla, buying all kinds of Bitcoin as a quote investment unquote, most of the time, these investments are to protect themselves who has jurisdiction. I have been to a lecture by the secret service where they were able to shut up. Down a major black market operation that was running on the dark web and they were doing all of their transactions in Bitcoin that's cryptocurrency. And it is not. Safe. They were able to figure out who it was, where they were. Okay. And they were able to get an Interpol involved and get it all shut down and get most of the money back, which is interesting as well. So here in the us, the FBI does get involved and I've worked with them on a number of cases. And there's the, of course secret service gets involved because they're talking about currency, staffs, international fashion, and then they. In the international community to round these guys up. So I suspect they're either very nervous because someone's getting awfully close to them. And we've seen a lot of shutdowns lately of these bad guys, or maybe it's just good business. Let's just put up a different shingle and move on. I don't really know what's happening yet. And  why out in the open, the way that they are to begin with, because you're going to draw attention. To yourself and they, as you were referencing, they basically opened up a business and put forward that business and said, here we are, we're going to supply a commission-based environment. And that, to me says that they're not that fearful of repercussions because of being. Very much a international type of a, of an entity. And there being questions, about how you go about enforcement on this side. And there still are questions in regards to jurisdiction. There has to be a lot of cooperation for arrests and for investigation and things of that nature to transpire. So why do they have this type of confidence in your own?  So excellent question again. Look at their targets. They've been very careful not to target Eastern European countries, specifically countries or parts of the former Soviet union. So it does make me wonder Chris about whether or not the Russians are actually involved and are providing them with some protection. And maybe Mako has said, Hey, get your heads down.  Biden said there was no direct relationship. He did not say there was no relationship. He said that he did not believe that Latimer Putin was behind it specifically, but that does not mean that he is not behind the entity or that there is some sort of branch out to them as there are. Many companies and all oligarchs and individuals who have not necessarily a direct association with Putin, but indirect ones. The final thing is on the UFO's Craig and your thoughts on this and how this also plays into what we're talking about with no technological warfare, as I've said before, based upon the evidence. I am still not on board with the fact that the UFO's are from outer space. I'm on board with them being Chinese or Russian or another country has developed some sort of a technology that allows for these identified flying objects to get close to our aircraft carriers or be seen off of the coast of Florida. And in other. Circumstance, as I've said before, I've seen UFO's flying over and as many other people have flying over our airspace here in New Hampshire things that just don't make sense, different colors and so forth. And now we know that they have been we've seen them on video. We know that they exist. There's no question about that. The question is who is responsible,  right? Yeah, absolutely. Chris, my experience with you at post goes back to 1982, when I had a close encounter. With the UFO, not just the movie back then, but I was driving up the central Valley there in California and I, all of a sudden saw this light that was blasting right into my car. There was probably about a half a mile ahead of me. And then it came closer and I had my windows open. Didn't have air conditioning and it came right next to me. Now I know that helicopters make a lot of noise. We didn't have anything like drones back then. And it followed me and stayed right next to me as I went up that central Valley and took curves and everything else. Wow. My mother also had an experience. Where do they come from? That's your right? That's the really big question. We certainly did not have that type of technology in the 82 or so when I saw it and when it followed me and that technology, I doubt existed 20 years before when my mother had an encounter with a UFO. And it's it's a scary thing. It really scared the living daylights out of me that day, here I am on my twenties, a driving scene that there are some right now, some technologies that we do have that provide on an extremely limited scale. Some of the features that we've seen of many types of UFO's. And at this point, Chris, I'd have to say again, we really don't know where they are. Come from, it would take an incredible breakthrough in physics in order to be able to have an aircraft or some forum that can hover make almost no noise. If any noise at all and change directions completely without causing enough. Jeez G-Force to destroy the vessel itself, let alone everything inside. So it is a long way from anything technology wise, that's ever been exposed that we have control of the aliens. That's  what I'm hearing. That's that is that Greg did not go that distance, but it sounds like that is where you want to go with this. We don't have a lot of time here left, but I do have to follow up on this because you basically just described an alien encounter. Yeah. How did it end? Did the UFO go away? What do, were you abducted? What happened?  No I thank goodness. I wasn't abducted, but that got my interest up. And as I've studied this a lot over the years it followed me along for 15 or 20 minutes or so. And it, it just, it had this light on me on the car and the whole time I slowed down it load, I sped up it sped up. It was very odd. Let's settle this and put it that way. And yeah, I don't see any way it could have been from made by us or the Chinese at the time or anybody else. It was, and they, I felt scared, really scared. It wasn't like a peaceful feeling like there's love coming here or something. But I do think that they're either extra dimensional there or, out from outside of this world, Greg,  the amazing story there. Thank you so much. Take care, Greg Peterson, he is the host of tech talk here on news radio, six, 10 and 96, seven on Saturdays and Sundays at 11:30 AM. Hey I'm going to be a little slow getting back to you guys. I want to schedule these cyber health assessments and get them all done for everybody that asked over the weekend. If you did not get a chance to ask it and make sure you do go on line, just send me an email. me@craigpeterson.com. Put a like cyber. In the subject line and just let me know, you're looking for one of these health assessments. I got some that you can do yourself. You don't even have to talk to me or anybody out all the way through very deep ones that we do for businesses and others. So let me know, take care, everybody, and I should be back tomorrow. Take care. Bye-bye.

Craig Maskell is here today to give us the Real Estate Agent's perspective on Kangaroo Ground.  Craig has had the privilege of selling lifestyle properties throughout the Diamond Valley for 20 years, and is the Director of Fletchers Real Estate in Eltham. 1. So Craig, there doesn't seem to be a lot of property available in Kangaroo Ground, is it tightly held? 2. Do people generally buy in Kangaroo Ground, or are there some rental properties? 3. What attracts people to Kangaroo Ground? 4. What type of people actually move to Kangaroo Ground? 5. What price ranges can we see in Kangaroo Ground?     a) So, what would be the median price range? 6. Is Kangaroo Ground a suburb people actively search for, or are they looking more for other suburbs like Eltham and Diamond Creek, and they stumble across it? 7. What makes Kangaroo Ground different to that of Eltham and Diamond Creek? 8. What unexpected surprises can you find in Kangaroo Ground? 9. There's a little pocket of the Yarra River that used to be called Kangaroo Ground South, but had a name change in 2000 to the Bend of Islands. I had to write some copy a couple of years ago for a property there, and I had no idea it existed. What's so special about this little township?   CONTACT: Craig Maskell can be contacted by email:  craig.maskell@fletchers.net.au  or call: 0411 950 052.   Featured in the podcast: Pastor Stephen Kilner - Presbyterian Church of Victoria (Kangaroo Ground): 0437 449 139 Ken King - Kings of Kangaroo Ground Winery & Post Office - 9712 0666  Thanks to Craig, Stephen & Ken.    Need Copywriting? Call the 'Real Copy Right' Hotline: 5977 8889  Email: orders@realcopyright.com.au As well as sales copy, we can also assist you with:  Rental copy Staff profiles for your new and existing staff members Marketing letters/emails Newsletter articles Marketing material for listing kits, mail outs, etc Website blogs Large scale development brochures and websites

Craig Peterson: [00:00:00] Ooh, what a week final preparations are in place for the improving windows security course, which is starting next week. My wife has put her foot down. We're going to make it happen. Today I was on with Mr. Matt gag now, and we spent a little bit of time talking about business, email, compromise, how that is. [00:00:20]  Talked about also ransomware, and it's near tripling and just in long, Hey, I'm Mac and how Intel's newest ads are absolutely ridiculous. It's obviously Apple and Intel going at it. Intel is just mad. That's the only explanation I can come up with. So here we go with [00:00:47] Matt Gagnon: [00:00:47] Mr. Matt. It is 7:36 on the WGAN morning news. Craig Peterson, our tech guru, joins us now every week. [00:00:54] And guess what? He's here again, Craig. How are you this morning? [00:00:57] Craig Peterson: [00:00:57] Hey, good [00:00:58] Matt Gagnon: [00:00:58] morning. Pleasure having you as always, of course, you hear Craig also on the weekends at one o'clock. If you want to hear about all these topics and more in more depth and detail, listen up Saturday at one o'clock, and you'll hear Craig Peterson's voice right here once again. [00:01:10] So Craig, lots of stuff to get to here. Maybe a fun one to begin with. Apparently, Intel has hired Justin Long. And if you don't know who Justin Long is if you think back way back to the early two-thousands, he was doing these ads, the I'm a Mac actor. Remember that guy? [00:01:26]Now he's in an ad to mock Macs. Yeah. And I, I've seen this in a, I think it didn't. Was it Verizon that hired the sprint guy or sprint hire the Verizon guy? I don't remember. Many of these actors were in these iconic roles, for some of these tech companies are getting snapped up to either make fun of or argue against their old essentially. [00:01:46] It's funny to see this kind of thing [00:01:47] Craig Peterson: [00:01:47] happen. Yeah, it is that I think you're thinking of the can you hear me now? Exactly. Yeah, this is interesting. And it's showing, I think, frankly, of some concern, maybe even fright on the part of Intel, you see what's been happening over the years, not just with Apple, but with other manufacturers is Intel processors are getting dropped. [00:02:12] Out of our devices. We started seeing that with smartphones. If you have a smartphone today, it doesn't matter if it's Android or based on Apple's iOS. It does not have an Intel processor score. And we've seen more of that surface tablets without Intel. Some of them have them, some of them don't. [00:02:32] And of course, all of these Google Chromebooks at all. So don't have it. So Intel has always been struggling to be recognized, and that's why they came up with a whole Intel inside campaign. However, they have also been one of the most expensive little CPUs little processor. If you want a professional Intel processor, it can cost you as much as $8,000. [00:02:59] Just for the CPU. So Apple has decided we're getting rid of Intel entirely after Intel missed certain benchmarks for performance and battery usage and heat and everything else. And Apple started developing its own chipset here a few years ago, or the CPU is now completely moving away from Intel over the next two years. [00:03:23] And in fact, if you buy a Mac mini, I have one in front of me right now. That doesn't have an Intel CPU in there. It has the new Apple, one chip Apple is just abandoning them. So they hired Justin Long. The I'm a Mac guy to show you, Oh, this is a, an Intel. Computer. And of course, it really has nothing to do with Intel, and he touches the screen and moves this finger around, and it isn't that neat. [00:03:52] It pops up and, oh, look at this. We've got two screens on this computer, and I can touch them both. But this Mac book, I can't touch the screen and have it do anything. No, that has anything to do with him, Joe, Matt. It's crazy. [00:04:07] Matt Gagnon: [00:04:07] Indeed, while we were talking to Craig Peterson, our tech guru, who joins us on Wednesdays at this time to go over what's happening in the world of technology in a more serious perhaps story here. [00:04:16] the knowledge here that ransom payments have more than tripled is a pretty big deal. Ransomware gangs are apparently out there roaming around the internet and successfully milking. Many people out of cash, basically taking them hostage or taking their machines hostage, if you will. And then promising to give it back. [00:04:34] If only you give them cash. Talk to me a little bit about the story. [00:04:37] Craig Peterson: [00:04:37] Yeah. That's really driven up the price of Bitcoin because the ransomware gangs are demanding Bitcoin and payment. It's a little bit harder to trace, but it is still traceable depending on what it is and the FBI just yesterday. Yeah. [00:04:53] Released another warning about ransomware attacking businesses, government entities, just on and on, but it has a huge impact on anybody that gets ransomware, and a man, the tripling of rent more attacks go hand in hand with people working from home. And that's why I've got this improving windows, securities core starting next week for everybody where we're. [00:05:19] Helping you to clean it up because we're working at home. We're not as careful as we were at the office. Because of that, it now makes it even easier for them to get valuable information. So the best thing you can do is make sure your computer's patched up. Unfortunately, Windows does not. Ship a hasted care re-secured version of windows out of the box. [00:05:44] You've got to go in; you have to do a bunch of things. That's part of what we cover in our newsletters every week. And then some of these courses, but these attackers are improving their techniques. 2020 was a great year for them. They've got this whole double extortion thing now where they will get on your computer. [00:06:03] Particularly if it's a business-related computer, if you're on a VPN connection to the office, they will. Spread is not only inside your home to other computers but across the VPN to the office. And they'll start stealing your data before you even know it's happening, and they might be doing that for a week or more. [00:06:23] And then once they've got your data, They'll go ahead and encrypt your machines so you can gain access to it. And then they'll say, okay, pay up sucker. And if you don't pay up, you don't get your data. If you do pay up, there's only a 50%. Yeah. Only half the time will you get your data back, even if you pay them. [00:06:42] And by the way, their justice department says, if you pay them, you're supporting terrorism, and you might get criminal charges against you and to make matters even worse. They'll then say, Oh, okay. By the way, where we are another organization, we have your data. If you don't pay out, we will post your data online, and then you'll be in real trouble. [00:07:06] Matt Gagnon: [00:07:06] And Craig, the other thing that's worth mentioning here in terms of. Businesses and people that are experiencing some financial extortion, if you will. A business email compromise is also a huge deal. And frankly, I've gotten the emails here about that in this Berry station; make sure that your email is being protected and that you're not falling for phishing scams and all this other stuff. And a lot of email compromised does happen and apparently accounts for a lot of money. [00:07:30] Craig Peterson: [00:07:30] Yeah, it does. We're talking billions of dollars worldwide. Right now, the FBI estimates that this has cost over 16 billion. [00:07:39] We're seeing here last year in the us almost $2 billion, and there are some easy ways to deal with this. And I'd put it in my newsletter here a couple of weeks ago when you can always email. Me@craigpeterson.com. I'll send you a link to it, but Google has a free website that you can use, and it has some examples of fishing it's designed for training. [00:08:04] You can use it for yourself at home. It's wonderful. It gives you a real interactive. Pieces of email that you can see on your screen. It is not going to compromise you at all. This is all online because, with these latest business email compromise attacks, people are getting extortion. It might be tech support romance scams, which have been very big here during this lockdown because people are frankly lonely. [00:08:35] And they'll do things like being friends. People will be friends, you may be, and we'll say, Hey, listen, my aunt really needs surgery. Eventually, get around to asking you four or five grams to help with this whatever family problem is. And you're romantically involved online, maybe even had a video chat with them. [00:08:57] So you don't realize that some kid in a basement somewhere over in Eastern Europe, but man, it has gotten awful. So be careful with this BC-type attack and take a minute. You can even Google's phishing scam website, and it'll really help you out a lot. All [00:09:19]Matt Gagnon: [00:09:19] That's been Craig Peterson, our tech guru who joins us on Wednesdays at this time. [00:09:22] Thanks a lot, Craig, as always, appreciate it. And we will talk to you again, sir, next week. [00:09:27] Craig Peterson: [00:09:27] Take care. Bye-bye. You bet. No, my dad used to say you bet all the time. I haven't heard that expression in a very long time. Hey, if you are a windows user, you've got to make sure you spend a few minutes and sign up on my newsletter list, and you can get that to go into Craig peterson.com. [00:09:49] I will be doing. Windows training here. I've got a course coming up. This is a phenomenal course. I think I explained the why behind what you're doing. So you understand it, you understand the reasons. And then I get into the details of the how, so this is a course. I think everybody needs to get it. So I've got some special deals for you guys. [00:10:18] If you. Request information on the course, if you've already requested it by responding to one of my emails, my newsletters, and saying, yeah. Tell me more about improving my windows security. I'm going to be giving you guys a coupon that is going to give you two-thirds off. And those coupons are going to be good for you to share with your friends as well for two months. [00:10:47] Okay. So this is going to be a real quick launch next week. It's only going to be open. You can only buy this course. I think Monday is when we're planning on opening, and it will. And Thursday night. So you guys that asked about it beforehand, you signed up before you will get this coupon to help out your friends. [00:11:09] So when they're saying, Hey, how do I improve this window security thing? You can give them that code. And as I said, it was good for 60 days. Nobody else is going to get that code. So if you're on my regular email list, you are not going to get that code. The only people who will get it are the people who have already expressed interest by responding to one of my newsletters in advance of me starting this course on Monday or opening the cart on Monday. [00:11:41] So it's going to be a huge win for you. It's going to be $200. Off. Okay. I'm trying to make this affordable for everybody. And on top of it all, I have promised this for four months. Again, talking about Karen, putting her foot down, she said, I got to do something for all of these people have been asking for it. [00:12:02] And I haven't got it out yet. So this is going to be great. It is months in the making, and I really think you're going to enjoy it. I'm finishing, loading it all up. Bye, I'm actually reactivating all of the videos because I wouldn't say I liked the way the captioning was working. I have all of these videos captioned. [00:12:24] So if you can't, I can't hear it. Or if you want to have it running without the sound on at work or wherever it's burned right into the video. Okay. But the captioning, which is a transcription of me speaking. Okay. That captioning was getting cut off at the top. So I thought that might be distracting. [00:12:45] So I'm, re-editing all of the videos to put the captioning a little bit lower down on the screen. And the way I did it is the desktop slides. All of the examples are below the camera optioning. So the captioning is not going to block—any part of the video. So you'll be able to see the screenshots and see the slides and everything else with the full caption because I know a lot of you guys like to sit there in front of the computer and do this, and of course, you're able to do it on as many computers as you want, because you're going to have access to this program for six months. [00:13:28] And I think that's going to be an excellent thing. And it's about five-week. Program is how it's designed. And anyway, so w so if you sign up in advance, there's a little bit of a trick. You can get the coupon; you can share it with anybody good for it. Two months. Nobody else gets that. All right. [00:13:50] Everybody take care, and I'll be back on Saturday. And then Monday, expect the opening email to let you know that I'm opening the cart to improve Windows security. Of course. All right. Take care, guys.

Welcome! Good morning, everybody. I was on WTAG this morning with Jim Polito.  We had an interesting discussion about North Korea and their extensive hacking efforts, who is supporting them, and why.  Then we got into Social Media censorship and Birdwatching and how the left has succeeded in shutting down conservative opinion. Here we go with Jim For more tech tips, news, and updates, visit - CraigPeterson.com. ---  Automated Machine Generated Transcript: Craig Peterson: [00:00:00] Good morning, everybody. Craig Peterson here this morning, we talked about Canada being a big hacker nation and the other big one, there's really top three if you will. So that's what we got into today. A lot of people just weren't expecting what's happening. It's crazy. So we get into why Mr. IL is out there hacking and it was a surprise to Jim, anyway., Hopefully, you got my email this morning. I got another one Thursday. We've got some little training things coming up that I want you to pay attention to all part of this launch of the finally the improving windows security course. No, we had a name. We had like working names, everything else, you know how that goes, but the whole idea behind the course is how to improve your windows security to that next level. All right, everybody, take care. And here we go. Jim Polito: [00:00:59] Craig Peterson, the Tech-Talk guru and our good friend who joins us every Tuesday at this time. Good morning, sir. Craig Peterson: [00:01:06] Good morning. Jim Polito: [00:01:08] Hey, we're going to get some Some of your, Canada like weather, just a little bit, little snow. Hey, a little snow. Craig Peterson: [00:01:17] Have you seen this? A Northwest territory's Buffalo airways show. They have it on the weather channel at times at night, sometimes. They're up in the Northwest territory up in Yellowknife. They're flying to places, Calgary, Edmonton, red deer, that's south to them.  I never moved this far North as those guys. Yeah. Jim Polito: [00:01:39] You might as well be in Alaska seriously. Craig Peterson: [00:01:43] Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Jim Polito: [00:01:48] Here's something I want to talk about still more about social media and censorship and everything else that's going on, but I do want to ask you about. The country in the world that is probably the least high tech or one of the least high tech. You see a satellite picture of this country at night and there aren't many lights on, and yet they couldn't be one of the best hacking units in the world. I think I'm giving it away as to who it is, Craig, but I'll let you, yeah. Craig Peterson: [00:02:25] Yeah. It's Canada. Jim Polito: [00:02:27] No, that was pretty good because if you get, if you see a picture of the Northwest territories at night, there aren't any lights up the other than the Northern lights. Craig Peterson: [00:02:41] The Northern half of Canada has a total of just over a hundred thousand people that said something like two-thirds of the population lives within a hundred miles of the US border. But no, that's not it here. We're talking about cybersecurity and cybersecurity has become a real problem. In fact, Rhode Island. Now you can call 211 to report cybercrime in Rhode Island. In Mass, there is a 211 is you probably could, but Rhode Island has been really leading this somewhat and setting this up. For cybercrimes and includes cyber-stalking, identity theft, financial fraud, cyberbullying. They've been trying to stay ahead of this game. So what we're talking about right now is this state-sponsored hacking. Now countries, if you look at Russia, you look at China, they're hacking us as part of what kind of world war three right. What's the easiest way for us to attack the United States. It's via cyber. We've seen power outages in some of these countries, including Iran lately. There's a lot of speculation that it's us doing that to them. Although Iran says the reason that they've had power outages is that too many people are trying to mine Bitcoin cyber currencies. They use too much electricity and we didn't allot for that then. They shut down 1600 cyber mining facilities within Iran. There are countries like Iran that want the cash and North Korea, believe it or not, is one of the leaders out there because they want their hands on money. They have a number of different groups out there. There's a Lazarus group, which is probably the best known, Hidden Cobra is another one of them. They do all kinds of extortion and ransom and just general online so that they can get their hands on money. There's an estimated of I've seen various numbers, about three to 6,000 people in North Korea that are very advanced technologically. They have gone to foreign universities. Look at current leader of North Korea. He went to school over in England, and it's just amazing. Some of the things we let these other countries do. Now they have what Kim Jong himself calls an all-purpose sword that guarantees North Korea military capability to strike relentlessly. The main reason they're doing this is getting their hands on hard currency. Jim Polito: [00:05:32] That makes sense. We're talking with Craig Peterson, our tech talk guru. So Craig, the expression if only you had used your powers and skills and talents for good. This type of high-tech hacking, that requires smart people requires some hardware, requires software, all of this, they're doing it just to steal, so that they can fund them, shall we say, hermit nation.  As I said, you take a satellite picture of the nation at night and there's hardly any lights on because there's just, the people are living in a primitive society. So that's their motivation. When you look at Yosef Stalin when he first became a communist, this was before they had over three around the czar, he was a bank robber, robbing banks for money, for the Bolsheviks, for the revolution. Isn't that basically what they're doing here in North Korea, although they've already had their communist revolution. Craig Peterson: [00:06:40] Yeah, they are. That is what they're doing. They're trying to fund this so that they can feed their people. Remember people are starving in North Korea. These are defectors their medical conditions are just insane, crazy.  They're also directly tied into China. So even though they're obviously playing not even second fiddle there they're way in the back in a different auditorium, from China. China is a huge cyber threat and frankly. Russia and China and then North Korea is right behind them. China is actually providing them with some of this technology to do the hacking as well, which is absolutely fascinating to me.  China is continuing to support North Korea, but it's doing it by giving them technology, giving them training, allowing North Koreans into their universities. Specifically, so that they can learn how to hack computers in the United States, as well as other countries, and fund themselves. So they don't have to keep coming back to China for more money and grain and oil and everything else for free at the very least they'll be able to pay for it. It's like the kid in the basement you're trying to get rid of, and not everyone can get on that hermit out of the basement and put them into the white house. Jim Polito: [00:08:01] Wow. We're talking with Craig Peterson tech talk. We will tell you how you can get in touch with him at the end of this segment. But Craig, we just got a few more minutes here. Anything new in social media? I heard Twitter invented, what is it? Bird something or bird catcher or whatever. This system that's supposed to identify tweets that are inappropriate. Does this really mean anything? Craig Peterson: [00:08:34] Yeah, they've been doing it for quite a while. It's called birdwatch and this is a community-based.  Here's what's really been going on and no one, I don't understand why, but I haven't heard anyone else talk about this. Jim. This is a first in the media, but the problem we have out there is that Twitter and Facebook, they don't have the time. They don't have the resources, even the artificial intelligence to be able to monitor all of the tweets and catch the bad ones. The way they find the tweet that they want to shut down is they get people reporting them. So now they've made this more formal by calling this community, birdwatch and doing all of this stuff. Here's what happens, you post something online that is maybe slightly questionable, especially if you'd take it the wrong way. There are people who are sitting there again in the basement I'm running for president, or maybe they've never gotten a job, or maybe it's both. They're watching a few social media accounts. They think of these hacking communities overseas, where you have all of these people. Pretending to be someone else. As they're pretending to be someone else there, they're posting and trying to change our opinion, right? So much of these bots, et cetera, we're not going to get into that right now. The reason Twitter shuts things down is that somebody reports. Now you or I, we looked at a tweet and say that guy's an idiot and we move on. But the people on the left, particularly the far left, all see a tweet and they will say, okay, we can get them on this one. They then have a few hundred of their fellow community members report that person, tweet to Twitter. Twitter then has to respond based on his community standards because so many people were complaining. You got a 24-hour ban or demonetization. That's the big secret behind all of this? It's these kids, bad guys obviously not all of them are young kids who are sitting there watching certain accounts reporting on mass. People w via different people and different bonds. That this is really offensive to them and now Twitter has something to fall back on. Jim Polito: [00:11:09] Yeah. And you know what? They destroy a lot of conservatives and I've had it. I've had it happen to me. That's why everything I write on Twitter, anywhere else, is something that I would not be afraid to say to a priest, my late mother, when she was alive, anyone like that is.  I have my political opinions, but the way in which I convey them, I do it in a way that's not offensive, but even doing that, they keep reporting. You can get hurt and that's scary. That is scary. Craig. If folks want to get more information from you what do they do? Craig Peterson: [00:11:52] I sent out this morning, in fact, a video to everyone that's on my email list, and I've got another email going up Thursday. I've got some more training coming out. This is all training stuff, people, and you can get on that list. Just go to Craig peterson.com. You can subscribe right there. Craig Peterson.com/subscribe. If you'd like. All of my podcasts are up there. You can get copies of these special reports. Like the one, I released today and much, much more just Craig peterson.com. Jim Polito: [00:12:25] All right, Craig. Thanks so much, great information. We'll catch up with you. Craig Peterson: [00:12:30] Take care. Thanks. Jim. Jim Polito: [00:12:32] Thanks. Bye-bye, all a final word. When we return. ---  More stories and tech updates at: www.craigpeterson.com Don't miss an episode from Craig. 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Welcome! Good morning, everybody. I was on WTAG this morning with Jim Polito.  We had a lively discussion about the inner workings of the Internet and the decisions that Parler made that may have cost them their business.  Censorship, Collusion, and Anti-Trust. Has Big Tech, the Sultans of Silicon Valley, become like the Robberbarrons of yesteryear? For more tech tips, news, and updates, visit - CraigPeterson.com. ---  Automated Machine Generated Transcript: Craig Peterson: [00:00:00] Hey everybody. I was on with Mr. Jim Polito this morning and we had a great discussion here. If you want to know what's going on with the internet, and why I call myself an internet originalist, and why you should stick around because here we go with Mr. Jim Polito of course. Jim Polito: [00:00:19] You know what, right now, you want to be right here. We got our guy standing by who better to have with us right now than the tech talk guru. Craig Peterson. Craig Peterson: [00:00:36] Tis I. Good morning. I wanted you to get all excited, and say woo I'm here. I just want it. We have, we're w we're in Providence now we have expanded and the Providence audience doesn't know this and they might think I'm joking. But Craig Peterson actually did help to invent the internet, Al Gore likes to take credit for it. But Craig Peterson wrote code for the internet that is still in use today. Okay. He didn't invent it, but he was like one of the guys at NASA. Who got the Apollo program to the moon? There were many of them and Craig Peterson is one of the many people who get the internet to work. So I just want to make sure people understand those credentials. Jim Polito: [00:01:28] Today we're going to talk about the internet. What perfect timing to have you here today, when there's craziness.  There are how many businesses that really could, how many large corporations, big tech, very few who control the whole thing right now. Isn't that correct, Craig? Craig Peterson: [00:01:51] By the way, one more thing for you. I also designed systems that helped to build design and fly the space shuttle. I don't know if you knew that. Jim Polito: [00:02:02] Woah, Woah. Craig Peterson: [00:02:07] Yeah, years ago. I don't think I mentioned that too before. Way back when I was down in New Jersey as a contractor consultant and I wrote this code. It was my company that was hired and we put together systems for RCA Astrospace who was building part of this. One of these days we'll have to talk about it. It was cool. Jim Polito: [00:02:26] I want to hear about that because getting the shuttle to fly, they said was like getting a brick to fly. That's the way that the pilots who piloted it, explained it. So we need to hear that. But look, here's what I'm bothered about. That Apple, Google, and Amazon can say, you know what Parler you're done now. They can say it's because of some disturbing material, but we all know it's because of competition. Come on.  That's three companies. That sounds to me like the old robber barons and why we have antitrust laws. Craig Peterson: [00:03:02] Yeah. This is really interesting because we've had so many people, libertarians on out, say it, remember the first amendment, the right to free speech only applies to government. But the concept of free speech is part of the basis of this country. It doesn't just stop at the edge of the first amendment, frankly.  I want to point out something else related to this. And that is I am an internet originalist. So speaking about the Constitution and the Supreme court, I'm an originalist. The internet was designed to be decentralized. You could say and do almost anything, as long as it wasn't illegal online. The whole idea behind it was to create and implement new ideas. Anyone could now connect anything to anything. Heck, we even got light bulbs now on the internet? It was an open, free, fair society. It was initially used by the military research people. It was used by universities to communicate with each other. That kind of evolved into the ARPANET. And then they were connected together and it became the internet.  Even the term internet tells you what it is. It's an interconnected network of networks. It had no one place that was vulnerable. We could not have Russia blow up a city in the United States and have the internet disappear. It was entirely designed to be decentralized and still pretty much is. The problem is we have these companies, like you mentioned, who are so big, and ultimately so powerful that they can shut things down. So when you talked about Parler as an example of how it was shut down. There are attorneys looking into antitrust regulations because of this. Amazon pulled access to their systems. Now Amazon runs about 60% of the computers in the United States of America. And certainly at a minimum of 60% of the computers that run the internet today. What's happened is they have all of this computing power. They have all of this network connectivity. Remember I said, these are interconnected networks. So someone like Amazon can block data from Parler from even traveling over their networks. Now the internet there are protocols like BGP and others. We won't get too technical, that are designed, well if Amazon goes off the air, or won't route the packets for Parler, we'll send them around another way. It's just like water seeking another way around and it can do that. It does do that. The real problem Parler seems to be facing right now is Amazon doesn't just provide computers. It doesn't just provide network bandwidth. Amazon has quite a number of services. You can register with Amazon, for instance, and have it handle what's called your DNS, which is the internet addressing system. Parler did that. You can have Amazon handle the queue processing, automatic load balancing. Can manage your databases, can manage all of your data storage, but if you're going to have Amazon do these things, you have to write your program, your code, so that it knows how to use all of this stuff on Amazon. All of a sudden now, You are 100% dependent on Amazon.  If you're a company that made the mistake of being Amazon, not just centric, but Amazon dependent, like Parler apparently is, if Amazon pulls the plug on you, you are out of business. And then to top it off, you've got apple pulling the plug on Parler's app and you've got Google pulling the plug on Parler's app. Parler was smart enough to say what would happen potentially if the apps were pulled. Parler could be used via a web browser, except for the fact that they're a hundred percent dependent on Amazon and Amazon pulled the plug. Jim Polito: [00:07:36] We're talking with our good friend, tech talk guru, Craig Peterson. So Craig, look you and I could start up a small business right now and with nothing to do with the internet. Craig and Jim's coffee shop. Okay. There's a lot of red tape to go through, but we could start it up and we could do it and we wouldn't be dependent on these corporations. Some people may say you may be dependent to promote it. But what I mean is we could actually start a coffee shop and if we were on a busy enough corner, be okay.  We would have certain entities that would have to go to like banks. Okay. Yeah. Small business administration. Yeah. But still, there are ways to do that. Craig Peterson: [00:08:21] There's no real way to do it. You need truckers. You've got to buy the coffee. You have to have the truckers delivered every day. You have to work with a conglomerate, which is distributing cream that you would buy, right? You're not buying it from the local farm.  By the way, that truck is probably driven by a union member. So any one of those people. Even if you want to compare what's happening now to starting a printing press and printing your own newspaper broadsheet, whatever it might be, you still have to get the paper. You still have to get the ink. Those suppliers when they are big enough can stop you from competing. They look at newspapers today, for instance, how many newspapers are printed by the New York Times, The Boston globe, including local newspapers. It's one company. Nobody has all of these presses, anymore. I think we've just become far too reliant on these big companies. Now there are some options.  There's something called Mastodon out there that is a completely decentralized kind of Twitter, Facebook replacement. Some people have moved to MeWe. The same type of thing can happen if they didn't plan, Jim. Jim Polito: [00:09:40] Yeah, I guess I understand that, but there's no one thing that can shut you down. Like they can shut you down. They can really shut you down. You're done. You want to be in the world online. You're done. Now. My question is so Parler signs a contract with Amazon and less, the Department of Justice decides to go after. Amazon and Apple for and others for antitrust. It's probably not that much Parler can do. Cause you know, I'm a free marketer and a free marketer is Hey Craig Peterson, and his amazing work. He can do business with whoever the heck he wants to. That's Craig Peterson's prerogative and you can't force him to do certain things. I'm not one of those people. When you have this kind of power, I think robber baron, I think back to John Rockefeller and Standard Oil, it reminds me of that. Craig Peterson: [00:10:42] Apparently, by the way, Amazon did violate the terms. Parler every time Amazon has asked us to remove something. We have removed it after, we double-checked it all. We have removed it and they have a 30 day period, according to the contract with Amazon, that if Amazon complains about something, there's a 30 day period where they have the ability to remove it and negotiate with Amazon, et cetera, et cetera. None of that was honored. This all happened over the weekend. Basically with all of these companies. So now we're looking at collusion here. This is fascinating. Then Ron Paul now, it's reported in the Washington Times, Ron Paul says I'm not calling for anything illegal and he's blocked by Facebook. Jim Polito: [00:11:38] Yeah. Yeah. In the weeks to come, I'm sure we'll be discussing this more, but I'm glad you were here. Craig Peterson, how do people get more from Craig Peterson? Craig Peterson: [00:11:50] The best way is just to go to Craigpeterson.com. You'll see right there, the ability to subscribe. You'll see all my podcasts. You'll see a lot of the articles and I've got training starting here in about two weeks on improving windows security. So it's step one. I have these all planned out. We're going to be doing VPNs and everything. Make sure you sign up.  Jim Polito: [00:12:17] You can find out about Craig peterson.com. I love it. Craig as usual. Thank you for your expertise. I can't wait till we'll have to talk, NASA someday. About how you taught a brick to fly. But we'll get into that.  Thank you very much, Craig. Talk to you soon. Bye-bye. ---  More stories and tech updates at: www.craigpeterson.com Don't miss an episode from Craig. Subscribe and give us a rating: www.craigpeterson.com/itunes Follow me on Twitter for the latest in tech at: www.twitter.com/craigpeterson For questions, call or text: 855-385-5553

Martin's gates somehow just aren't finished. So Craig introduces another gem from the archives.In this week Bristol launched a poetry festival, they discuss the pronunciation and reputation of Ralph Vaughan Williams, and the pair get uncharacteristically philosophical about science.Armstrong and Miller Timeghost is a Hat Trick Podcast.This episode first aired on The Times website in 2008 See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Low Carb Comfort Food with Craig Mitchell Craig Mitchell is an Actor,  Stand-Up Comedian, Writer and Amateur Chef. On September 8th 2016 Craig felt faint hours after dinner and at the weight of 380 lbs he was diagnosed with Type 2 diabetes. He then immediately embraced a healthy lifestyle with the guidelines of limiting his food intake to 1600 calories a day or less and 150 grams of carbs or less.  Since that day, Craig has lost over 100 lbs and since Feb 5th 2017 has his Type 2 Diabetes COMPLETELY under control via diet ONLY.  He started "Off The Cuff: Healthy Cooking w/ Craig Mitchell" so he could share the methods, food and recipes that have changed his life FOREVER. Not a trained chef, Craig tries to promote delicious, easy to prep and cook meals that ANYONE can master. He has amassed 76 episodes (and counting) and loves to mix low carb healthy food and comedy!  On stage he has appeared in over 40 productions. As a stand-up comedian, he toured for 15 years (1987–2001) and gained respect as a solid performer on the eastern comedy circuit and just recently has restarted his stand up career. In 1994, he co-founded the successful Long Island based improvisation group "The Comedy Express" (Originally named "The Online Comedy Express") which toured until 2003. In 2001, he moved from Long Island to Los Angeles to further pursue film and television projects. He most notably portrayed the title character in the award winning 2004 dark comedy short film "The Lazy Assassin" directed by Jennifer Goyette. His most notable television appearances are The Ricki Lake Show, Boston Legal, The Sopranos, Saturday Night Live, Tosh.0 and Jimmy Kimmel Live. In 2008, Craig wrote and appeared in the "Stakeout Trilogy". A series of three short comedy films showcased on YouTube. On Film he has appeared in "Dozers" and in 2018 will be seen in "Give Til it Hurts" as Bob the dim-witted mechanic. Craig currently resides in Van Nuys, CA  has Cat named Andy and is obsessed with "Air Frying "Off The Cuff: Healthy Cooking with Craig Mitchell - YouTube Off the Cuff: Healthy Cooking with Craig Mitchell | Facebook www.feedingfatty.com Full Transcript Below Roy - Feeding Fatty (00:03): Hello, and welcome to another episode of feeding fatty I'm Roy I'm Terry. So today we have, uh, Craig Mitchell. He's going to be our guest. He is an actor, standup comedian writer, and an amateur chef. Uh, I know that on September, uh, in 2016, uh, Craig, he had felt Fain after dinner and was weighing about 380 pounds at the time he was diagnosed with type two diabetes and then immediately embraced the lifestyle change. And, um, you know, that's what we really wanted to talk to him as some of the things that he's done, I'll let you, uh, I'll let him explain the weight that he's lost, but also he has, um, he has done some, uh, cooking videos on YouTube, uh, YouTube on YouTube. Unknown (00:56): And so we were going to get him the. Roy - Feeding Fatty (01:00): So, uh, you know, after we get through with this, we'll be sure and have him tell us, uh, how, because I think that's important as everybody walks through this journey. Uh, it's figuring out those little tips and tricks. So, uh, without further ado, Craig, thanks for taking time out of your day and being with us and welcome. Yeah. Craig (01:19): Hey, thank you very much. It's it? It's a pleasure. And I want to thank you for naming the podcast after me, but it's, it's all power all about me being fed and you know, Roy - Feeding Fatty (01:29): Yeah, no, that was what I thought too. I'm, you know, I'm always going to be, uh, although even if I lose weight, I will always be a, that little fatty inside. So that, that was kind of what Craig (01:40): It reminds me of Chris Farley, uh, because his default, he used to say, well, fatty falls down. It was sitting here and that's what he would do. So when you say feeding fatty, I just think of it as far away. I think of comedy and I want to be fed, so it all kind of fits into one. Roy - Feeding Fatty (01:55): That's awesome. Well, why don't you start out by telling everybody just a little bit about your story, kind of how much you've lost so far in your journey. Uh, you know, a little bit about how you've gotten there and we'll just, uh, start off with that and have a discussion based around that Craig (02:11): Good thing. Well, it started, as you said, it started in September of 2016 and since then I've lost. Oh no, my doctor diagnosed me as the worst case of type two diabetes he ever seen. Wow. I had an A1C of 12. I actually have heard people who have 16, so I don't know how you know that. Roy - Feeding Fatty (02:33): Yeah. And what does that translate into, you know, just like the, uh, I know that's pretty high for A1C, but what does that translate to just like taking it on the daily meter? Craig (02:44): Well, uh, I was probably for a while averaging in the high two hundreds. Oh wow. Okay. Averaging, you know, as a matter of fact, my right eye here grew an accelerated, um, uh, cataract, uh, because of the increased sugar and that's something I have to get treated eventually. Um, it tends to undermine drifts or if I look like Jackie lamb, don't worry. Roy - Feeding Fatty (03:08): Well, I think that's, uh, uh, I think that's a component of diabetes. A lot of people don't understand is it's more than just high blood sugar and not feeling well. I mean, not only, I think it's, you know, blood flow to the extremities. I know people that have had to have toes amputated, but also can affect your eyesight, your heart, I guess your liver kidneys. I mean, it's just, uh, it is so deadly. I just don't know. Uh, while we talk about diabetes a lot, I don't think people understand just exactly how terrible that it can be on, uh, on someone's body. Craig (03:44): Well, it's actually an epidemic and w and I, uh, I'm very, I'm bored. I'm a borderline a hypochondriac, but I did a lot of medical study, especially, uh, I wanted to be a doctor when I was younger. So I took a lot of pre-med courses. So the thing is, I always kind of touted myself as knowing what was going on. And if I didn't, I would learn it, but I was completely in the dark that my body was being ravaged by this. I mean, I was urinating like 12, you know, 12, 15 times a day, but I thought, well, you know, I'm 56, you know, it's probably my prostate or something. And, uh, and things got blurry. Well, I think while you, Oh, my eyes, you going. But, um, yeah, when I, when I, when I first had it on that, that night in September, actually it was the 50th anniversary of star Trek. September 8th was 16. So I'll never forget that I really went where not against Terry - Feeding Fatty (04:42): Them, Craig (04:44): But w when I, when I, I had three slices of PJ and I drank like a two liter bottle of Pepsi, regular Pepsi, and I got dizzy, like I had hyperglycemia and my roommate had a testing kit, and I think my blood sugar was like three 70 or something like that. Three. Wow. Yeah, that was just, yeah. Um, and my doctor wanted bariatric surgery. He wanted him to put me on glypocide and Metformin. Uh, I did go on Metformin. Glypocide me. I'm kind of allergic to it. Okay. And, uh, I told him, no, I said, uh, I remember in his office, he was like, well, you're going to have to have bariatric surgery surgery. You can't lose enough weight to do this. And I was like, yeah, hold my burrito, watch this. And don't ask me why I did it in six months. Uh, I had lost about a hundred pounds. Uh, I had reversed my type two. My A1C went down to 6.1 and I've been off the medication since, Terry - Feeding Fatty (05:43): And you've controlled it all just through your diet, Craig (05:48): Diet only, Terry - Feeding Fatty (05:49): That's it? Yeah. Wow. That is amazing. Congratulations to you. That's a feat. I mean, Oh my gosh. But Craig (05:58): It's, I didn't, you know, I was hoping, you know, what happened to me is I was taking the Metformin and it was right before dinner and I got really, um, woozy again. And my first thought was like, Oh, no, it is my blood sugar going through the roof again. And I tested my blood and it was like 57. And that was, it was before I took my night's dose of Metformin. So I didn't take it. And then the next day I tested it, it was like 90 or the next, and it just, from there on, I didn't take it anymore. I kind of took myself off it, which I would not advise, you know, but, uh, I did. Yeah. And you know, it doesn't mean it's right. Roy - Feeding Fatty (06:36): Do you know from my experience too, if you test enough test around that medicine, because I I'm back on it, but you know, there's, I've had doubts sometimes whether it really is helping me that much or not, because there've been times when I had failed to take it and would have much lower blood sugar. So anyway, when I would tell everybody out there to do is just be sure and test all around it. If it's not working and failed luck is not working correctly, go back to your doctor and talk to them because there are other, um, there are other avenues that you can go and go down. And of course, I've talked to my doctor and that's what he said. He wants me to go a little bit longer, but he said, we may look at changing it out. Craig (07:19): I mean, I'm, I'm still testing. I mean, I have this right here. I, I tested a couple of times a day. Yeah. I, um, well with this lock down, I kind of had a slide back. Um, I gained some weight. I mean, you can do it, even if you eat low carbon, whatever, I gained some weight and my numbers went up and now I've gotten them back down again. And I, I can actually see the difference in the video here. My face was a lot fatter. Believe it or not like two weeks ago, uh, it's an ongoing battle and you can do all the right things. And you know, it's like, I don't know if you're, are you a baseball fan? You don't want to be, you remember, you remember Prince fielder? Yeah. Like he was a vegetarian and people would say, what is he eating? Uh, truly. How did you know? Cause he was everybody said, who will, he's big and heavy and he's a vegetarian, well, you know what? You can eat low carb. But if you eat a lot of high calorie and go over it, you can still gain weight low carb too. So you got to find a balance. Roy - Feeding Fatty (08:16): Yeah. And you know, one thing my, uh, well, I'm not sure if I've ever talked about this before, but a few years ago when the Quito phase came out and was getting big, I would listen to a couple guys. I never went total KIDO. My doctor just told me, you know, try to stay between 40, 60 on my carbs every day, which is close, but not quite what I think they're what under 20 something like that. Craig (08:41): But one day only 20 per day. Roy - Feeding Fatty (08:45): Yeah. Well, no. He told me to be under 40 to 60 for the day as well. So I was fairly close, but not quite there. But, um, in some of those I heard a doctor and he was an MD. So I will, I'm going to vouch for him and say, he knew what he was talking about. He said that we, our bodies can learn that if we're, if we go low car, but if we're too high on protein, it will start taking that excess protein and turning that in to fat. So anyway, it just have to, you know, cause that's what I was doing. I was so extremely high on my proteins there for a while. I wasn't watching it. I thought, well, watching my carbs. So proteins just let them rip and uh, you know, eating all the bacon and everything, which, you know, a lot of fat, of course the KIDO wants you to have more fat than not. But anyway, it's still, it was still difficult for me. But uh, so Craig (09:44): I'm sorry. No, you're fine. Go ahead. No was only, I remember when actins came out 30, 35 years ago and uh, all my family were on it. I was a fat kid, so I was on it and we beat chewing on pepperoni sticks and having like 12 omelets, 12 egg omelets. And after three days I was just so sick of all of that, you know, you were ready. I was ready to like knock over a nun for a piece of bread. It was just like, you know, I would ask her politely before you shoved him to the ground. Right. We just need to tell Roy - Feeding Fatty (10:20): The audience, no nuns were injured. Craig (10:23): The taping of this. I was brought up Catholic. I would never do an gosh. Roy - Feeding Fatty (10:29): So what are some things that you have done? I know that you kind of lowered the carbs, but uh, you know, that's well for somebody like myself, that's difficult. Cause I love bread. We love chips. We love all that. So what are some things that you've done that have been kind of ingenious, I guess in order to have some good food Craig (10:49): To have the lower the carbs? I don't know if it's ingenious, but I researched, uh, when I, when I did my comedy cooking show because I want to be funny. And at the same time I want to share all these recipes. I, I, I go out re I researched recipes and at first I just followed them by the letter. I didn't know what I was doing, but now, because I've gained some experience, I can, I can mix and match and do what I think, Oh, this would be good in this to be good in that. And I just try to take comfort foods on my show and I mean, comfortable like pizza. She used cake chocolate cake, Snickers bars. Um, and I tried to make low carb versions of them that, you know, can give you that sense of satisfaction without feeling, you know, that you're, um, you know, you're not, no, what's the word when you're, uh, I can't think of that word. That word has left my vocabulary folks, that word that when you want something and you can have it and you've deprived, I'm sorry, because I'm a very deprived person. Um, yeah. And you weren't really, Roy - Feeding Fatty (11:54): Um, I think you had told me when we talked earlier that you weren't really a cook. You never really gotten a kitchen that much. So, I mean, like not only have you had to learn, you know, how to do some of these cool things, low card, but you've also kind of learned the whole cooking process as well. Craig (12:13): I have, I'm actually making sauces now. I mean, that, that, to me, that's like, are you kidding? Terry - Feeding Fatty (12:18): That's what I want to hear about are the sauces, Oh my God, three is good. Craig (12:27): Uh, a creamy Dijon, a low-carb Dijon sauce for, for pork. Uh, and it also works with fish, especially if you, you know, I air fry my bread it and like flax seed. So there's no carbs. And man, it's like, it's fantastic. And I've made a cheddar cheese sauce and Oh, I make gravy too. Like, I mean maybe last night we'll carve gravy with my, with my Turkey. I did not, I could, but I didn't do it. Terry - Feeding Fatty (12:55): Okay. I have all the fifth step to make it with, but I did not make it cause we had so much other stuff, you know, Craig (13:01): I, I, I got so bloated. I had, I had mashed cauliflower. I had mashed, um, uh, turnips. I had low carb biscuits and I made low carb gravy, which had a lot of fiber in it too. And I felt like a beach ball. And I think my total carbs I'd probably just was probably less than 10. Oh my gosh. So talking about the fiber, you know, again and that's, and, um, it was delicious. It was great. And I definitely don't feel deprived there, you know? Um, but you can make your own stuffing. I make a low-carb bread that I found online. I make it on the bread machine. It's like two carbs, a slice. Wow. Next year I'll, I'll take it. I'll let it get stale. Chop it up. I'll make that into a stuffing or bread. Roy - Feeding Fatty (13:48): Interesting. I never thought about a low carb bread, but we'll have to check that out because that's, that is the one thing I feel more, uh, you know, like deprived now that you brought that up, we'll use it again. I do feel more deprived of the, uh, you know, the bread and bread products. We can find a decent loaf, you know, commercially made that may be 10 per little bitty dinky slice. So, um, that'll definitely be something worth checking out because I do love bread. Craig (14:16): We're also very expensive too. Yeah. Well, there's like, there's a, there's a, there's a store here. Um, I'm not trying to, uh, plug it. It's called all of the famous happenings, this low carb bread. Um, but it's expensive and they, they are, they're always running out of it. So I went online and I saw this guy. I don't even know him, but he's called the KIDO King. And he had, he has a machine recipe and he has an oven recipe for a low carb bread. And so that's what I did and I share it because it's certainly not my recipe. Yeah. But I think he deserves a lot of for it because I have seen, I just had a Turkey sandwich before we went on the air, you know? And it's like, you know, I guess it's all about eating, you know, normally without just being all the carbs, he got all the trouble. Roy - Feeding Fatty (15:05): Yeah. Well, we, we do have all these here, so we'll have to check that out and see just not a, not a place we go to a lot, but it's one here in the neighborhood. So we'll check that out. Yeah. Cause you know, finding, um, low carb stuff in the grocery, in a regular store, it's pretty difficult nowadays. I mean, everything is just more bigger. Terry - Feeding Fatty (15:26): Well, and it is it, like you said, it is really expensive, but you don't want to the T you know, you don't know about the taste, you know, you're going to pay for that. And then it's going to taste like cardboard. And that's what, that's the first thought that I have is, Oh my gosh, it's going to be low carb or no carb. It's going to taste like cardboard. I'm not eating it. Craig (15:44): Some of it is, you know, and I won't say the company, but there's two rival companies that make bagels. They're awfully expensive. I think it's like a $25 for eight of them. You know, if you space it out, you know, you can enjoy yourself. But as one of them was really good, the other one was like, you know, chewing on cardboard. He, I, you know, I'm not going to bash them, but you know, I've made my own, but fad had, I don't know if you know about fat head stuff, no fat had is basically when you take, instead of using flour, you use like you'll use almond flour and then you'll use, um, mozzarella cheese and green cheese. And that becomes the binder. But I got to tell you after a little bit, it's I just get so overwhelmed the taste of the cheese, um, to be off after a while. I can't really have it. Roy - Feeding Fatty (16:37): Well, so tell me this originally you're from New York. So we'll plug that in there. That how does, how do you make pizza out of with cauliflower as a crust to slide it by the taste of a guy from New York? Terry - Feeding Fatty (16:54): How'd you fall for that? Craig (16:56): You want me to be honest, if you know the best, the best pizza I've made. Uh, I think I've made on my, on my show. I guess I've done 76 shows and I'd say I've probably done pizza about six times. So I'm always trying to find a better recipe. And the first one was so involved with the cauliflower, you got to do it and you got to squeeze the water out and you're burning their hands and you got to do this and you got to fly it out and it's, you know, you, and it was okay. And then I found another recipe that was better in another recipe. I would say the best they've ever done as I'll make something that sounds, that tastes like a DiGiorno pizza, which ain't bad, but it's not in New York. You know, you gotta be on Roy - Feeding Fatty (17:39): Well, and that's sometimes it's just that little taste, you know, for me, if I get a little taste of it, it doesn't have to be, uh, the very best, but just enough to kind of satisfy you and be able to move on when we Craig (17:50): Exactly I'm actually doing another one, uh, not this upcoming episode, by next episode, I'm making a flaxseed Russ pizza. Terry - Feeding Fatty (17:57): Oh, that's interesting. I'll be very curious about that. Craig (18:02): I do already. I tested it and it was good. It was from, but it was wham. So I'm going to have to throw in some flavors into it. Probably some Italian seasoning, definitely some more salt. And I have to make a little bit thinner because there was a little bit too, too fat for me. I don't, I don't, I'm not like the big, you know, New York, we have to have like the slice it's like really? Did you know Terry - Feeding Fatty (18:23): That guy? Roy - Feeding Fatty (18:25): Well, you know, that's one thing we've adjusted, I think is, uh, in the spice section, I know we do a lot more Kumon. Um, tumeric is because I had taken tumeric, uh, supp, uh, supplements for a while because they say that they help you a lot. But anyway, we started doing it, cooking with it, which was even better. And, um, but anyway, I think that kind of helps us overcome some stuff is when we kind of spice it. And what's the other, um, remember the bigger neutral Terry - Feeding Fatty (18:58): Nutrition, nutritional yeast, nutritional Roy - Feeding Fatty (19:00): Yeast, we've started using a lot of that. Terry - Feeding Fatty (19:02): I've never used that before in it makes stuff taste buttery. I mean, it's good. Craig (19:07): Matter of fact, I just found a recipe for a, well, they said it's actually keto brownies and nutrition. Nutritional yeast is one of the ingredients. And I said, Oh yeah, I have that. I can make this. Roy - Feeding Fatty (19:20): Yeah, we got really good at, at inputting everything. We ate into an app and, you know, we'll, I guess we'll plug it. It seemed to be the best to Krono meter. And there's so many little micro nutrients that we were missing out on. And so that's another thing is the nutritional yeast was really good for picking up some of the micronutrients that are just left out of resident, uh, recipes, just to try to balance it out, to try and get everything. Cause it's tough. You know, we, uh, we're busy and we love to cook. We got in the kitchen cooked together, but it seems to take so much time. So Terry - Feeding Fatty (19:58): Prep work and the whole, I mean the whole foods, all that stuff, it's just simple. Roy - Feeding Fatty (20:03): I going to the grocery store, making sure you got everything you need. So, you know, do you find that that has been a problem for you once you've started cooking or are you Craig (20:13): Actually, I've actually created a lot of shortcuts. Like when I was, when I was working, I would come home like at two o'clock in the afternoon and I would pre do dinner. Meaning if I, I would take out the chicken, I would, uh, defrosted, I would pound it. I would, uh, bread it in whatever, running it in, whether it be oatmeal, whether it be flaxseed and I would shut the, uh, chop, the vegetables, get everything ready, put the refrigerator, taken out two and a half hours, then wake up and I would cook it. So I got into like this, you know, into this routine that made it a lot easier. And plus I'm only cooking for one two, you know, it's um, um, yeah, some days you just don't feel like going through all the motions though. Like I, I made a really good design you on my show, but you know, it's a little laborious and sometimes you just like, Ugh, I just want to eat in 10 minutes. I don't, you know, I'll just have a burger. Yeah. Roy - Feeding Fatty (21:07): Right. Yeah. And that's our, that's our downfall usually is that too. And so w um, I guess that brings up a good question about when you, when you're cooking low carb, if you freeze it, is it as good, you know, once you unfreeze it as, as, uh, normal recipes as about the same, or is there any difference? Cause that's one thing that we usually do is cook a little bit more so we can have, like, I can have leftovers for lunch tomorrow, but then also we have a little bit put it back in the freezer and see, you know, sometimes it's hit and miss with the, the, you know, when we use like the, the, uh, was it diced or rice cauliflower, sometimes that stuff doesn't come out as good, you know, after you unfreeze, it has a lot of things. Craig (21:57): Yeah. That's that, that's true. Especially if you bought it frozen to begin with or if you make, so I make my own, most of the time I just take a hit of cauliflower and I grind it up. I just meat, I just muesli recently made, um, uh, stuffed peppers. And instead of rice, I use Brown, I used the rice cauliflower and ground Turkey, and I actually take the tops of the peppers and I grind them up and I put them into the middle two. And, uh, Roy - Feeding Fatty (22:26): What kind of machine do you use? The two grounded grinded up that fine. Terry - Feeding Fatty (22:30): Yeah. The kitchen aid attachment or something. Yeah. Craig (22:32): It's actually a generic, it's just a generic food processor that we got for. Yeah. Interesting. Roy - Feeding Fatty (22:41): Yeah. And we're not, we don't have a lot of gadgets. We're kind of adding some in, but it's, uh, you know, when you look at how fine they rise or chop that up, it's like, good. I didn't know. We could replicate that at home. So, Terry - Feeding Fatty (22:52): And, and, Oh, that brings up gadgets. AirFryer let's talk air fryers here. I just got a new one. My daughter just sent me a new one and it's got the basket and the rotisserie, all that good stuff. Um, what is your favorite thing? What, what's your favorite thing to make in the air fryer or Craig (23:16): I'm kind of often I'm kind of off it now while I'm getting my blood sugar back down, which mostly is, but French fries. Oh, I'm lucky enough that I can tolerate a potato a day. And, uh, but I'm trying to, like I said, right now, I'm trying to bring it down more and try and lose some weight. So I'm trying to stay away from it. But yeah. Air fried French fries, my favorite things in the world. Terry - Feeding Fatty (23:38): What's something that you go, Oh, go ahead. I'm sorry. Craig (23:42): No, no. I said I've got it down the recipe. I'm sorry. So what's something that Terry - Feeding Fatty (23:46): You didn't think about when you first got the air fryer? I mean, is there something that has surprised you that's actually been good in it? Craig (23:54): Yeah. And it's something, there's two things, uh, bacon. Yeah. Hmm. I could never make good bacon. Never. It was always over done too greasy. It's perfect. Every time the AirFryer perfect. Roy - Feeding Fatty (24:10): Better, better than, uh, I'm not better, but is it better for you than in the fried in a pan? Craig (24:18): Probably. It's not sitting in its own bacon. Fat. Yeah. Interesting. Yeah. Okay. It does drop down unless, unless you cook it in and when sometimes I have, and then, you know, as far as carbs go great. As far as fats and calories, you're going to have to walk. Roy - Feeding Fatty (24:35): Well, we used to eat a ton of bacon all the time. You know, Saturday and Sundays was our morning to cook in. We would always eat. I'm not going to tell you how much bacon we cook. And that was one thing that we did cut out. But, uh, you know, this air fryer, well, you know, I think we had talked about this a little bit earlier as well. We had a small one that had, I mean, it was just limited space. And so we didn't, weren't able to do a lot, but this one has this big basket. I mean, it's like, uh, uh, I don't know. It was like a writer, Terry - Feeding Fatty (25:05): Bingo, bingo, caller, you know, the numbers, you know, Craig (25:09): So I prefer those type of, to the oven ones. Cause I have enough money to, through the other ones. To me, don't tend to keep the heat in it as well, because they'll have a glass front basket that goes in it really self-contained. And I think you get like for French fries and stuff like that, or a chicken cutlet or whatever, it tends to get hotter. I don't know if we talked about this when I, when I said hi to you guys, but, um, I, I, I bought a new air fryer that's coming and I can't wait. I bought a 9.5 quart air for it. Wow. Yeah. I want to be able to, you know, my cat's going to sleep in it. Roy - Feeding Fatty (25:48): Yeah. Say I don't know how big ours is, but I don't think it's that big. Terry - Feeding Fatty (25:53): No, but it's plenty big. Yeah. You just have to put everything in a single layer. I mean that little one is just, everything was in a single layer. You had to do it. It just made the timing and it just made everything more complicated than trying to use the old oven and the stove top, you know, but I know. Craig (26:09): Yeah. That's why I have more than one. I do siding and I do the main course and the other. Okay. Terry - Feeding Fatty (26:13): So you'll have five or you'll have six, four. Craig (26:17): Well, this, this is my seventh. I gave, I gave one away. Uh, one was, uh, it was a glass bowl when that cracked. So those are gone. Yeah. My first one I had at my old job, which I've been off from and, uh, I'm giving my power XL fryer away to a friend when they get this new one and I'm going to have three here. Wow. Roy - Feeding Fatty (26:39): I think that's an idea that you told us about when I'd never even thought of, but it be beneficial to have a couple of those things going at once. And in this one that we've got, the volume is going to be different, but that other one, I guarantee you that we cook 10 loads of stuff in it to try to make one meal. But we were so worn out by the time the last one came out, we're like, we don't even know what we were doing, what the meal consisted of. And we were just given, give out. Terry - Feeding Fatty (27:04): Yeah. And part of that is just me trying to figure out what, what to do anyway, but, and not read the instructions, you know? Cause I'm not. Yeah. I like to just do and it doesn't always work out so great. Craig (27:17): That's kind of what I did. I kind of found my own way. You know, I saw all these different, uh, all these people had these, I had this advice to make crispy French fries in the air fryer and you know, soaking them overnight and this and that. I'm like, no, no, no. And I just did it my own way and they're fantastic. And it's a lot easier. It's a lot less work. Uh, maybe it's me. Maybe they would taste more stars. You use somebody else, but I love them. Um, and I don't feel that word again. The private all with them. I feel like sticking it. Yeah. Roy - Feeding Fatty (27:47): Well, uh, one other thing we can, uh, wanted to ask you about was tofu. Do you ever mess with tofu that much? Craig (27:55): Well, my brother, my brother, my brother used to teach tofu and uh, I always tofu. All right. Uh, you know, I, I I've had tofu, um, uh, uh, but I go, I cooking, I think only tried once and I tried to, I try to like, it wasn't from tofu and I didn't like the texture. Roy - Feeding Fatty (28:21): Well, that was one thing that we tried that was extremely good in the smaller AirFryer, but I think she put some on a cookie sheet. Craig (28:29): Yeah. Well it was bourbon. Yeah. Terry - Feeding Fatty (28:32): Yes. It was, it was, it was extra firm and just cubed them up and put a little bit of soy sauce and a little bit of olive oil and that was I, or olive oil spray. And I mean, that was it. And it just kind of tasted like when we just popped it like popcorn, you know, Roy - Feeding Fatty (28:48): Smaller and she cooked, she cut them small. So I think it made them, uh, get done where they weren't like gooey inside. But yeah, I mean, I thought it was more like a, um, just like a cute potato, like you'd Cuba, Tatum and skillet cook. It's what it tasted like, but we've tried a lot with, um, mixing in with eggs and some chicken meat, you know, just kinda making it part of the dish because it seems to take on the taste of whatever you're cooking it with. So Craig (29:18): Yeah, you, you have to infuse taste to do it for sure. Yeah. I mean, I just used the not so firms, so it got very gelatinous and I didn't really like that. And then you should've got the firm like yeah, next time I will. Terry - Feeding Fatty (29:31): Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to echo that and say, definitely get the firm. Cause I, the first time that I tried tofu years ago, it was that soft, gross. Craig (29:42): No I didn't. Roy - Feeding Fatty (29:45): Well, and I think part of one thing, everything that we have cooked it with, we have cut it into the smaller pieces. So I don't know if that helps too, is just the smaller you get it. The more it seems to cook the moisture out of it. And, uh, Terry - Feeding Fatty (29:58): That's the thing is you have to press it to get the moisture out of it. So it's kind of, it's not, labor-intensive, it's just, you know, you just have to take it out and kind of press it between a couple of cutting boards on paper towels and get that moisture out. And maybe 10, 15 minutes Roy - Feeding Fatty (30:15): Found some, uh, tofu noodles that we had used one time that were pretty good. So Craig (30:21): What I found is hearts of Palm new years, um, and they now have a cane and they have spaghetti and linguine and it's an a can. And, uh, actually my friend in Oklahoma tried to eat could not believe how good it was really about making. I want to make weenie, um, uh, in clam sauce using that. Terry - Feeding Fatty (30:44): I have to look into that because I do love that. Craig (30:47): Yeah. Or Alfredo, I like, I love Alfredo's, you know, that's, it's a lot of fat and calories, but there's no carbs. So there you go. I'm just going to watch it, Roy - Feeding Fatty (30:59): Greg. Uh, we want to say again, thanks a lot for taking time out of your day to be here. Certainly appreciate it. Uh, so what is one thing that you do? Uh, it, it can be a cooking tool or just a habit that you have either through your, uh, you know, in your personal life, professional life. Just something that, uh, you couldn't do without on a daily basis. Craig (31:23): Um, well, I'll, I mean, we've been talking about for the past 10 minutes, but I, I use air fryers at almost every meal almost with me because I love the taste and I love the experience of fried food. And without the oil content, you know, without being deep fried, there's a lot less guilt. There's a lot less calories and it's better for you, but in conjunction. And this is then again, this is not my weapon. It was a great, excuse me. Like I talked about I'm, uh, but in conjunction is not my website, but I got this a website. I use almost everything called, um, uh, fat secret. And if you go to it, even, even at fast food stuff, you put, like, you can put an egg McMuffin in there and it's going to tell you how many carbs, how many net carbs, how many calories. Uh, and I use that almost everyday to keep the guide itself in a meeting. I don't know if the fat secret like a popcorn. Yeah. I think it's called pop secret this. Right. But you know, feeding fatty, that's great. You know, I should get together Roy - Feeding Fatty (32:34): Well, and that's so important. We can't reiterate that enough, that knowing you're eating is the key. I mean, that's, you know, I think part of it was for me, ignorance was bliss. Don't look at it. You don't know it, but it's still, you still ingested it. So, you know, you've got to figure out what's in this stuff in order to be able to control it. And some things that once you do find out what's in it and how many carbs it's like, Oh my goodness. I could not believe because it's not just that one thing usually. Well, my I'll say my experiences, if I'd have just had that one thing I would have been okay. But it was that thing. And about seven others throughout the day is what makes me why I'm overweight and have a blood sugar problem too. So, Craig (33:21): Yeah. And, and the key thing that I learned is that no matter what it is, a lot of people, I see it in all these groups on Facebook are really upset. They have type two diabetes, they feel like, are they going to be eating his lettuce and cucumbers the rest of their life? And absolutely not true. That's why I have my show out there is to show you, you can make these rich decadent meals and at the same time be of service to your disease and helping keep it arrested, you really can. Roy - Feeding Fatty (33:47): Right? Yeah. And that's amazing that you're off your meds because, um, Craig (33:51): That sounds weird. [inaudible] Roy - Feeding Fatty (33:57): Yeah, because I just know how hard I've tried and it's difficult. I mean, uh, like I think we talked that there was one point last fall last year, Matt year that, you know, we were exercising crazy. We were exercising at a level that was unsustainable. And I got mine down too. You know, I was in the eighties nineties a few times, but not, not, uh, you know, nothing sustainable. So, you know, it gets back to, I think it's like losing weight in general. It's kind of the same for controlling that blood sugar diet is going to be, you know, 80%, 80, 85% of that. And then that little bit can be some exercise, but you've got to start with the food and get that business under control for sure. Craig (34:44): Well, you know, my roommate told me today, um, cause he sees pretty much already. He says, you know what? You don't eat a lot. Um, he says, he, I'm not a Grazer. I'm not, uh, I eat ver when he means, but very literally he gives me, my portions are small. Uh, I don't go for seconds and stuff, but I think one of the keys when we talked about this earlier is a lot of my stuff is high fiber. Yeah. And when you eat high fiber, you're, you're done. You're, you're, you're full, you're satisfied. Um, I don't even crave sweets because after a while you get your by, you know, when you go your carbs down, you may know this yourself, after a certain point, you don't crave sweets anymore because your body's not screaming out for carbohydrates. Roy - Feeding Fatty (35:25): Right? Yeah. Not only that, but it's the weird stuff that starts tasting sweet to you. You know, other, other foods, I just noticed that I'll be like, wow, that tasted really. Yeah, exactly. Craig (35:40): Really sweet. Like, wow. Not raw, but need to cook mine. Yeah. So I put something on there. Roy - Feeding Fatty (35:50): Well, Craig tell everybody how they can, uh, get a hold of you, look you up on YouTube so they can look at some of your, uh, cooking shows. Craig (35:59): Sure. I wish they would. You can see me on Facebook. It's a facebook.com off the cuff with Craig Mitchell and on YouTube. Uh, it just, just, uh, put in off the cuff healthy cooking with Craig Mitchell. I know it's a, it's a long, it's a long title, but it'll get you there. Roy - Feeding Fatty (36:18): Yeah. And we'll have all these up on the show notes as well and on our web page. So yeah. Yeah. We'll, we'll make sure and get that for you. Well, Craig again, thanks a lot. We appreciate everybody listening again. You can find us at www dot feeding, fighty.com. We're on all the major podcast platforms, iTunes, Google play, Stitcher, Spotify, Pandora, uh, Amazon everywhere. If we're not on one that you liked to listen to, please reach out. We'll be sure. And try to get that added. Also, you can find us on Facebook. We have a Facebook group. We'd like to have a discussion, uh, anything that you want. And then also Instagram, Twitter, uh, all the major places you can find us there. So until next time I am Roy and Terry.  

Good morning everybody!  I was on WGAN this morning with Matt Gagnon and started this morning talking about a radical new way to assure transparency and validity in our Elections. Then we got into the Cybersecurity Pandemic we are facing and how the COVID-19 pandemic brought it about. Here we go with Matt. And more tech tips, news, and updates, visit - CraigPeterson.com. --- Automated Machine Generated Transcript: Craig Peterson: [00:00:00] Matt called it a radical idea this morning, and frankly, I think it is. I think I've come up with a way to fix one of our elections and technology's biggest problems. Hey, Craig Peterson here. I was on with Mr. Matt Gagnon this morning over on WGAN and carried on other stations throughout Maine and down in New Hampshire. Anyhow, here we go with Matt. I think this is an excellent idea. I'm going to have to do a little more about this thing. Matt Gagnon: [00:00:36] Let's turn to Craig Peterson, our tech guru, and let's get some thoughts here on technology. Craig, how are you? This one? Craig Peterson: [00:00:43] A good morning. And you know what? I've got some fonts on how to make this election go way more smoothly in the future. Matt Gagnon: [00:00:49] Do you now? Craig Peterson: [00:00:51] Yeah. We've got the internet today, and part of the problem, I'm not going to get into all of this, but we've got these machines in some States called ballot marking devices just on the technology side. We have other machines that are just basic touchscreens, but a BMD, A ballot marking device, is one where you've got a tablet, and some of these are Android. Many of them are Android-based, which you already know. I'm not too fond of it from a security standpoint, and they will spit out a little ballot, a paper ballot that you can take. That ballot now says, Oh, you just voted for Joe Biden and Joan and Jane and whomever, and it has a bar code. That bar code is what's actually read by the machines for your vote. There are so many questions. Yeah. It says, I voted for Biden but did my vote actually counts for him? I don't know what the barcode names. We've got the problems. Potentially the device, whether it's windows seven, which is used in a lot of these machines, Windows XP is still. Android et cetera. Let's make this simple. These machines are costly. States are spending tens or even hundreds of millions of dollars. Buying them. All we need to do is have a card just like we're used to voting on where you fill in the bubble. Then buy normal every day scanners, just off the shelf things, and make sure they're up to date. People do their voting. The machines then read the votes and now have an image. Obviously, there has to be a chain of custody, and everything else like you'd normally have. But most of the images now can just be run through some very inexpensive software. I found a company out there that has $800 software.  That software does the grading. Here's where the confidence in the vote I think would come in. You could then post all the ballots online for anyone, basically, to download that wants to download them. Maybe even like to do a check on ballots where you have a couple of different people manually counting to make sure the machines are right. Why not use two or three? Craig Peterson:[00:03:11] Three different pieces of software to grade those ballots. Then have people have a look at them. Have any voter that wants to examine the ballots examine them digitally, with, of course, all of the right chains of custody, Matt Gagnon: [00:03:24] Radical transparency then is what's your, Craig Peterson: [00:03:27] Absolutely, and it's cheap. It is way cheaper than what we're paying right now for these various machines. Matt Gagnon: [00:03:34] Yeah, I remember I don't know how many years ago this was, but probably 2013, maybe even earlier than that. Yeah, no, it was earlier than that. It might've been like 2009. Now that I'm thinking of it. When I was living in Virginia, I went to vote. The machine that I had there to vote on, I was blown away by it because I was used to the Maine system where you, you fill in bubbles on a piece of paper, and you feed it into the machine, and it does basically, what you just said outside of providing you images and stuff. It had a scroll wheel.  I felt like I was playing like Golden Tee or something. I had a scroll wheel and digital thing where I made my selections for whichever office it was, and I selected it. I pushed the button, and I had no physical interaction with a piece of paper or anything. It basically just said, thank you for voting. Then I left. At the same time, I didn't really actually doubt that my vote was counted and all that other stuff. It did skeeze me out a little bit. It didn't feel real to me. Craig Peterson: [00:04:20] I'd move beyond that.  I think radical transparency is a way to do it. Even the machines that we use in Maine. They are special, dedicated, purpose-built voting machines. We don't need that. We really don't. Anyhow. My opinion on it. People could have a lot more confidence in the votes if we did something this simple and really observable by anybody. Matt Gagnon: [00:04:45] That's a good suggestion. Oftentimes we try, in terms of simplicity here, we try to go more complicated and have more machines do more crazy things when something like this should be as easy and simple as possible with as much verifiable tracking as you could have. To verify it is what it is, right? Yeah. But it's a, and it's a big topic. There's got to be some congressional action on voting in general soon. Whether you thought the election was stolen or you don't think it was stolen? I would hope that most regular people, rational people, know that whatever we just lived through, it was probably not the best way to do it. So we'll see. We'll see. So Craig, before I let you go, we got a couple of other topics to get to, that we've been talking about a pandemic, in our health, of course, for a while now. Is there also a cybersecurity pandemic that is running rampant around us now? Craig Peterson: [00:05:30] Yeah, it's really become a huge problem because of the lockdowns, frankly. People working from home, the systems were never designed for this. Our cable carriers carrying most of our internet data from our homes are saying they've seen a four X increase in the amount of use. We've got machines at home that have who knows what, if any security or security stuff on them. It's become a huge problem that the bad guys are really leveraging right now. They have, as you saw in my newsletter, this last weekend just changed their tactics. They are going, still for some of the ransom stuff, but now they're not just holding your data hostage by saying, Hey, listen, if you want your data back, pay up because it's all encrypted. Now they're saying, Hey, if you don't pay up. We're going to release all of your data onto the internet. They may do it anyway. During this whole lockdown crisis, we have really taken some major leaps forward in going online. I'd say probably 10 to 15 years in advance of what we would have done previously. We not only have those bad guys, those criminals, but we've also now got Russia, China, and North Korea, and Iran that are all growing their capabilities, and they have been using it to attack us. As I've said before, we really have fired the first shots on world war three, and they are digital. They are probing for weaknesses, frankly. In this day and age, we really do have a cybersecurity pandemic in our businesses. And a lot of it's caused by the lockdown and people working from home when the systems just were not set up for it. Matt Gagnon: [00:07:20] Well, Craig Peterson, our tech guru, joins us at this time every week to go over technology in the world of technology. He has a show on Saturdays. If you want to hear more, make sure you tune in for that on Saturday at one o'clock, where you can hear this and so many more topics gone into in greater depth. Craig, I appreciate it as always, and we'll talk to you next week. Craig Peterson: [00:07:38] Take care. Matt Gagnon: [00:07:39] You bet. ---  More stories and tech updates at: www.craigpeterson.com Don't miss an episode from Craig. Subscribe and give us a rating: www.craigpeterson.com/itunes Follow me on Twitter for the latest in tech at: www.twitter.com/craigpeterson For questions, call or text: 855-385-5553

Good morning everybody! I was on WGAN this morning with Matt Gagnon and started off this morning talking about emails that are targeting Republicans with a particularly nasty trojan.  Then we got into 5G and why the US speeds are so much lower than the speeds in Europe, and then we wrapped it up discussing the Ransomware that has been infecting local and state governments.  Here we go with Matt. These and more tech tips, news, and updates just visit - CraigPeterson.com --- Automated Machine Generated Transcript: Craig Peterson: [00:00:00] So the whole goal here of five G is twofold. The first goal is we want to be able to have a billion devices connected to our networks and local networks. Plus we also want to have a speed of maybe a gigabit worth of bandwidth. Woo Wednesday morning gremlins. Craig Peterson here. I was on with Mr. Matt Gagnon, this morning and had the weirdest thing happened to me here. I'm on the phone, right? I'm talking to the radio station. I'm being interviewed and all of a sudden the podcast starts playing on my phone. It was very distracting.  I'm used to hearing myself. When I'm doing an interview on a radio or TV station, sometimes I hear myself on delay and the delay can be sometimes a few seconds. So I'm used to that. That one I can live with, but having the podcast playing of me on another radio station, while I'm doing an interview with a radio station was just a little too much to handle. I managed to pull my act together, but wow. That was the weirdest thing. Anyways. Happy Wednesday, everybody takes it for what it is. I suppose we talked about the same things, a little bit, slightly different angles, of course, but some of the same things we talked to Jim Polito about yesterday. So here we go with Mr. Matt Gagnon. Matt Gagnon: [00:01:29] It is six 36, and it is time to talk to Craig Peterson, our tech guru. He joins us now as he does every Wednesday at this time. Craig, how are you? Hey. C'est nous. Comment ça va ce matin? Ah, ça va Bien. So Craig is malware targeting Trump supporters? That's a good place to start off. Do you think we're in election season? That's a, it's a nice topic, right? Craig Peterson: [00:01:51] Yeah. Yeah. Or were you one of these people that pass conspiracy is that Matt Gagnon: [00:01:56] I am not, of course, a conspiracy theorist, but, but still things like this do happen out there. So it's worth chatting about. Craig Peterson: [00:02:03] Well, this is a very big deal. Everybody should pay attention here.  We'll get into this for just a minute here, but the bottom line is there is a very dangerous banking trojan is going around right now. It's called Emotet. Emotet has been around for a long time. The difference right now, Matt is that this Emotet malware is being sent. In a piece of email that is forwarded from a political action committee supporting Trump. So in other words, they take an email, a legitimate email from a political organization that is supporting president Trump and they forward it. For the subject line. will have a start of FWD or RE just like you would, when you were forwarding something. Forward to re: and it'll have the body of the message that was forwarded from the legitimate group. It'll have all of the links in it that will all work normally, but there is attached to that email, a word document. That word document, if you were to open it up and become infected is horrific. What it does it goes through your computer. It scans your network. It actually scans looking for other vulnerabilities. If you're misusing the VPN, which is about 90% of businesses that are using the VPNs, they're not set up right now, your computer at home that gets infected because you're open this mailer, the look perfectly legitimate about President Trump. Now that malware is going to get onto your business network and spread through the corporate network. This is really, really bad. There's speculation about why is this happening? But I think the bottom line is that this is the ultimate in social engineering and phishing, and it is absolutely targeted at Trump supporters. Matt Gagnon: [00:03:56] Speaking with Craig Peterson. You hear him on this very network on Saturdays at 1:00 PM, where he goes into all of these details. Much more in-depth and to move on here a little bit, one of them, one of the more fascinating things he had on the list here today that I wanted to talk about is about the average speed of five G in the United States versus what it is elsewhere in the world.  What is going on with this speed difference? And why is it different elsewhere? Craig Peterson: [00:04:22] Yeah, it has to do with the frequencies that are assigned. The higher the frequency, the wider the bandwidth, the more bandwidth you're going to get for download. So the whole goal here of five G is twofold. The first goal is we want to be able to have a billion devices connected to our networks and local networks plus, we also want to have a speed of maybe a gigabit worth of bandwidth. Well, the US average speed is about twice now, the five G speed twice what our four G LTE speed is. But when we started. Matt Gagnon: [00:05:00] That's nowhere near that gigabit that you're talking about, Craig Peterson: [00:05:03] Nowhere near. Absolutely. Absolutely not. So we're talking about give-or-take 50 megabits right now. It will go a little bit faster. T-mobile has lower frequencies.  I have an advanced class ham license, so I've been involved with TCP IP over the air. Multiple different places. So what the problem is, the bottom line with some of the stuff is, we've gotta be very careful about what we're doing here. I'm having a bit of a problem on my end. Without speeds. T-Mobile is giving us the ability to listen to the signals inside businesses, some of the others like Verizon, they cannot do that. That's become a bit of a problem. Well, I think for everybody. So sorry, a bit of wandering here on my side, looked a bit of a technical problem. Matt Gagnon: [00:05:57] No worries, Craig, we're talking to Craig Peterson and technical problems are no problem for him because he's our tech guru. And a final question for you, Craig, before I let you go this evolving story about Tyler technologies and the ransom that they're paying to receive the decryption key is very interesting as well. Tell me about this thing. Craig Peterson: [00:06:12] It is interesting we found out that a couple of things, one, most people are paying for the ransoms when the ransoms come up. I can understand that because they want to get their data back. We're also seeing that bottom line, people who are paying for these ransoms out there are also breaking the law and the feds are saying they're going to come after them for paying money to these terrorist groups. That's where paying ransoms do. Tyler Technologies provides software to the majority of states here in the United States to do things like collect taxes and also to just run towns and they got nailed. It took them about three days. They finally paid the ransom to the guys that had taken over all of their systems and shut down many of the towns and even state operations throughout the country. So, you know, bottom line again, what should we do here? We're now. Rock and hard place where the Feds are saying they may take us criminal charges if we pay a ransom yet we need our data back as well. Matt Gagnon: [00:07:23] Craig Peterson, our tech talk guru joins us at this time every Wednesday to go over what's happening in the world of technology. Craig, appreciate it as always good luck on Saturday, discussing all these things in more depth of detail. As you can hear a one o'clock on WGAN and thanks a lot, Craig. Craig Peterson: [00:07:36] All right. Thanks. Bye. Bye. Everybody, we will be back on Saturday. Also, remember if you are on my email list, you'll get all of my articles for this week. What I talked about here on the podcast and on the radio. So keep an eye out and make sure you're subscribed.  craigpeterson.com/subscribe. ---  More stories and tech updates at: www.craigpeterson.com Don't miss an episode from Craig. Subscribe and give us a rating: www.craigpeterson.com/itunes Follow me on Twitter for the latest in tech at: www.twitter.com/craigpeterson For questions, call or text: 855-385-5553

Welcome! Good morning, everybody. I was on WTAG this morning with Jim Polito.  We got into a lengthy discussion about some new malware - a trojan that is targeting Trump supporters, specifically.  Then we briefly hit on 5G. Here we go with Jim. For more tech tips, news, and updates visit - CraigPeterson.com ---  Automated Machine Generated Transcript: Craig Peterson: [00:00:00] There is a word document attached to that malicious email. That malicious email has in it, in that word document, something called malware. One of the nastiest pieces of malware out there. They're forwarding political information relevant to Republicans.  People are targeting Republicans. Hi everybody. Craig Peterson here. Yeah, that was me on with Jim this morning. We went into quite a bit of detail about this Trojan malware. It's an interesting discussion here. Why is it coming out? What are they saying? What are their subject lines? What's it going to do to you?  Why is it targeting Republicans? So here we go. Jim Polito: [00:00:47] Here he is, Oh, everybody waits for Craig Peterson and this is going to be an important visit today. We're going to talk about malware. If you are a Trump supporter, kind of a Trojan horse out there. Well, we'll get to all of that, but first, let's welcome him aboard. Craig Peterson. Good morning, sir. Craig Peterson: [00:01:09] Hey, good morning.  I've got another little granddaughter who was born just this last week and her parents are both captains and they sent a picture of this little baby girl in a captain's outfit. Jim Polito: [00:01:23] Now that is that's worthy of a wonderful congratulations there, grandpa again. Craig Peterson: [00:01:34] Thanks.  I've got 8 kids and I've only got six grandkids. These millennials what's with them.  Yeah, yeah, Jim Polito: [00:01:39] yeah.  Craig, they're just not, I mean,  I finally am going to be a grand or great uncle, whichever way you choose to say it. Yeah. These millennials, come on. Come on, guys. Listen. Well, listen, before we get to this. I've got to tell you something, that'll make you feel old or it'll fascinate you. Today. The first cell phones were made available for sale commercially in 1983. They were ridiculously expensive. There weren't a lot of towers, but they were for sale. Craig Peterson: [00:02:16] Yeah, the big bricks. They were really. Oh, you remember those? I was so jealous when those came out. I've been a ham radio operator. I have an advanced class amateur radio license and land mobile was the thing back then. Right? So you'd have this huge antenna on your car. You drive around and almost could listen to you as you're driving. Now came cell phones, which had a modicum of privacy on them. They were so small compared to the land mobile things. And now  I've got a cell phone on my wrist. This is like big, crazy time. Jim Polito: [00:02:49] It is. It's too cool. It just goes to show you, where will we be four decades from now?  I'll probably be dirt napping, but anyway, Where were we? Where will we be? Alright, Craig, I've got to talk to you about this, cause it really caught my attention. A piece you sent me about Trojan malware targeting Trump supporters. This is something that a good portion of the audience wants to hear about. Craig Peterson: [00:03:18] Yeah,  I thought you might be interested in this one and for everybody, this will come in my newsletter on Saturday. So make sure you're subscribed to that newsletter so you can get this. There is a Trojan right now that's being circulated and it's targeting just Trump supporters. I might ask, how does that happen? Right. It's not like the virus only targets people in the white house and Republicans. Well, actually, maybe it does.  But anyways. The way it works, is they are sending emails that are actually forwarded emails from these political action committees that are pro-Trump. These attackers are forwarding perfectly legitimate emails. It has legitimate links in it that you can click on right to that political action committee.  You can just look at and you think, Oh, it's great. The subject line says forward, and it's got the subject or maybe re the subject.  Those are both things that people have is clues. Hey, this is an email you want to open. The problem with this is it's entirely Republican PAC. That they are targeting that they're forwarding to people and there is a word document that's attached to that malicious email. That malicious email has in that word document, something called malware. One of the nastiest pieces of malware out there. They're forwarding political information that's relevant to Republicans. There are people really targeting Republicans. Jim Polito: [00:04:58] There you go. How do you argue with that? That's shall we say fact? Craig Peterson: [00:05:07] Right. Its science. I believe in science. It's just, I believe in my science, this is very obvious, right? The researchers are calling it like a Wolf in sheep's clothing. Well, here's what Emotet does once you get it.  Emotet is a Trojan. It's been around a long time. They use what's called a spear-phishing technique and they have for a long time. So they try and coerce you into opening up by putting something in the email that's of particular interest to you. Then once you've opened that word document and that malware is on your computer and it starts to spread. It actually acts like what we call a worm and it brute force attacks all of the services on your computer and all of the services on every other computer on the network. Now, you know how I've been warning about using VPNs when it comes to businesses, Jim. This is why. If you VPN in, into the office and that office is not protected from its VPN users, this Emotet will now start spreading to your business as well. We'll start taking over your file servers because it looks for SMB shares. The window shares, is what it is, a valid local account.  Very, very nasty and it is very sad and scary that it is attacking Republicans. Now Democrats would get this email as well, but the likelihood is they're just not going to be interested. So they're not going to open it. They've gotten a little more advanced too, for those of you out there that are a little geekier, It does pass email authentication protocols, such as D Mark. So this is a bit of nastiness and it'll be interesting to see if we can figure out who's sending them. Jim Polito: [00:06:53] It was what I was going to ask. And we're talking with Craig Peterson, our tech talk guru, and about this malware that is targeting Trump supporters. Now, could this just be an opportunity? They're going after Trump supporters, just because it was easy. It's a segment they are going after and it's apolitical.  their reasoning behind this is not political because maybe the door was left on the lock on this house. It was a crime of opportunity. It's not particularly against the family who lives there or do you think there's more to this. Craig Peterson: [00:07:29] Well, back up a little bit and I thought about this and here's kind of my thinking on it is that, um, Sleepy Joe's supporters are not particularly excited about his campaign or people voting for Joe Biden are voting against Trump for the most part. It's just crazy. So the way I look at it Trump supporters tend to be, you know, man, I'm on top of it. I do want to hear what's going on, you know? That goes right into your target of opportunity theory. I think it's absolutely likely that's what's going on here. They could be an attempt to kind of influence the election, but I think it's more likely a moneymaking opportunity for them. Jim Polito: [00:08:11] So they look at it as, Hey, there's more Trump voters engaged. They're going to be more active. Why not go after that big fish? Just like if the Patriots were in the world series, you'd have a lot of people from New England or elsewhere fans looking for stuff online related to the Patriots. So why not attack Patriots fans? Craig Peterson: [00:08:36] Hey now I even, I know that the Patriots would never be in the world series because that's baseball. Okay. Come on, Jim, come on. Pay attention. Jim Polito: [00:08:46] Did I, did I say words that I say world series? Probably. Yeah. Yeah. Series. It just proves it pages in the world series of the super bowl. Look, if it's not hockey, I trust you only with hockey. Okay. Because you're a Canadian, maybe that and curling. Okay. That's it. Craig Peterson: [00:09:08] Yeah. There you go. I love Curling actually. I really do. So here's what to look for. If you get a subject, this is the number one out there right now for this. The subject line has forward breaking President Trump suspends funding to WHO. That is the number one subject these guys are using right now. Breaking President Trump has spending funny to W H O and they're asking you to click a button labeled stand with Trump. They're hiding the sending address and everything else in these things. So, watch out. Be very, very careful in this political season about opening emails and more particularly about opening Microsoft documents. They've long been used as attack vectors against all of us, Jim Polito: [00:09:51] You know? I think about my own email and of course, I've got campaigns, pundits, everybody emailing me every single day, and you know, I open most of it and look at it. Just because I want to say, well, what's this, what's that?  I have not received anything like that, but I'm going to be very careful now going forward because that, the last thing I need is is that, Hey quickly, because we've only really got a minute. Five G  it looks, it looks like from what you sent me, the download speeds of five G in the US are going to be a lot slower than they are elsewhere in the world. It's going to be an improvement over 4g, but it's still going to be slower than the rest of the world. Why? Craig Peterson: [00:10:45] This is something that takes some serious time to explain. But getting it down to 60 seconds here's the bottom line. Five G is not the same thing across all carriers. Five G is using some different bands and different frequencies. Jim Polito: [00:11:01] So here's the problem that we're seeing right now. T-Mobile has the biggest five G network in the country. In fact, you could say it's the only five G network in the country, quite reasonably. However, because the frequency is there.  Using it is not as fast as Verizon's, which is only available in certain cities. In fact, in only available in certain blocks in certain cities. Craig Peterson: [00:11:25] Here's why. The T-Mobile frequencies will go through glass. They'll go through walls. You can use them in a building. Verizon's will not. You have to be very close to the cell site. Okay. So because of the lower frequency, you also cannot send as much data. On those little frequencies. So look right now, the US average is about two times faster than four G, which is really good in Europe. We're seeing much, much higher.  They have denser populations they're using the higher frequencies like Verizon is. Once Verizon's rolled out further, they will have faster download speeds. But, with Apple's big announcement today where we're going to have to make some decisions about what carrier we want, based on whether or not we want 5g. My bottom line on that it's not that a big win unless you are hauling a lot of data up and down to your phone. Jim Polito: [00:12:18] All right. That made sense to me, even in that short time. So Craig has got a great show Sundays at 11 o'clock and it's repeated at other points during the weekend on TAG and HYN, but Craig, if folks want to get in touch with you, and I know you said you're putting it out in your newsletter, some of this information, Craig Peterson: [00:12:37] well, just drop me an email. me@craigpeterson.com M E @craigpetersondotcom Subscribe by going to craigpeterson.com slash subscribe. Jim Polito: [00:12:47] Alrighty. Very good. Craig, always a pleasure. We'll catch up with you next week. Craig Peterson: [00:12:53] Thanks, Jim. Take care. Jim Polito: [00:12:54] You too. Bye-bye. ---  More stories and tech updates at: www.craigpeterson.com Don't miss an episode from Craig. 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Welcome! Good morning, everybody. I was on WTAG this morning with Jim Polito.  He had a few questions about Voting and the Technology surrounding Mail-in and Online Voting and then we got into the sales of the Chinese company ByteDance to Oracle. Here we go with Jim. For more tech tips, news, and updates visit - CraigPeterson.com ---  Automated Machine Generated Transcript: Craig Peterson: [00:00:00] They've been using some of our drone footage, which is why these Chinese drones are illegal to use for government contractors and many others. Good morning, everybody. Craig Peterson, here. I am enjoying this weather. This is my time of year. I was on with Jim this morning, we talked about TikTok, this whole Oracle thing. Why did the president do what he did and is the sale actually going to fix the problem? President Trump identified. So we talked about that and of course, we also talked about voting. It can't get political sometimes with Mr. Polito. So here we go. Jim Polito: [00:00:41] Okay, this is the guy you need to have at your side through all of this. I want to talk to him about Oracle and TikTok, cause I want to get his take on it.  I've got something more important to talk about first, and that is online voting - God help us. Here are our good friend and tech guru. Craig Peterson. Good morning, sir. Craig Peterson: [00:01:05] Hey, good morning, Jim. Love this weather. Love it. Jim Polito: [00:01:09] This is Canada weather. Speaking of the great white North, Gary, a listener from Gardner sent a picture of him. You know, some scrape marks on his windshield had a little bit of frost on the windshield little bit there. Yeah. I would figure that you would like this you're coming into your season here. Craig Peterson: [00:01:30] I am. I, I remember summers, it would get to like 70 or 72 and it was just wonderful. That was summer weather. I just don't like 90 degrees. Jim Polito: [00:01:41] Well, I'm kinda, with you there. I'm with you there. I don't like it. Alright. Here's what I don't like. I don't like online voting. First of all. I don't like mail-in voting. I don't like online voting, but you sent me some interesting information. We can do online banking, which you would think needs all of this security. What's the difference between that and attempting to do online voting? Why can't online voting be done? Craig Peterson: [00:02:10] Yeah, this is a really interesting problem. The bottom line for everybody is it's not a problem that will be solved any time soon, or my soon. I mean, it will take many years before this problem is solved. The big problem you have has to do with a secret ballot. So when you go to the voting booth, although this year they took the little flap off the back of the booth. So people could potentially look over your shoulder, but people were there to monitor to make sure there wasn't somebody holding a gun to your head to make sure you voted the right way. In fact, it's illegal pretty much everywhere to take a picture of your ballot. And that's gone to court many times because again, Someone could be extorting you to make sure you're voting the way they want you to. Or if you live in Orange County, California, the ballots came pre-filled with the Democrats, checked off. How do you know if it's a legitimate ballot, that's the problem really comes in Jim? When you're talking about ATMs, banking is different. We do have encryption from the ATM machine, all the way to the data center for the bank. And then the banks also share their data over secure links and, and they count on you checking your bank statement at least every once in a while. But once you've voted, all right. How do you know that your vote was counted? That your vote made it? How can you do it secretly? Yeah. And so that's the big problem here. You cannot have it secret. Now. There are some technologies out there right now that allow this auditable voting system, kind of using the technology that's behind Bitcoin, but it's not there yet. We can't be sure someone is literally or figuratively holding a gun to your head while you vote. Mail-in voting doesn't work because of that one reason and we can't do online voting because again, the same reason, but it just can't be audited. Jim Polito: [00:04:24] Yeah, I get it. Now that makes complete sense to me because you do lose the ability of the secret ballot. I want everybody to vote, but if somebody chooses not to vote, that's their right.  I guess it's public information that someone could look at. Well, what ballot did Jim Polito take in the primary? You know, if I take a Democrat, I'm an unenrolled. So if I take a Democrat ballot or I take a Republican ballot or whatever, somebody can look at that and say, Oh, he took a Republican ballot. Oh, he voted in that election. And then you get on a certain list, but I see where you're going. The next step from this is, yeah, it's actually easier to do the banking because everybody's upfront about it. There are built-in checks and balances. You would give away the secret ballot if we were to say you vote online. Craig Peterson: [00:05:17] Well, even with banking, we look at it and look at your credit card. Now they have the chips on them that do help to authenticate your card. But right now, the latest numbers that we have are from 2018, and credit card fraud alone costs the world's banks almost $28 billion. In 2018. That's a system that is sure. So what kind of fraud could we expect from heaven forbid, we have mail-in voting. I think that might be inevitable, but that was a fraud. There's going to be crazy and it's not like an ATM, we just can't secure it. We can't be sure that people are voting secretly and that's been fundamental. You look at some of these other countries, China has 98% of the population voting every time there's an election. They know exactly who you voted for. Yeah. Jim Polito: [00:06:14] Well, and you don't have much of a choice, frankly, when you voted China, you're voting for the communist party that's it. We're talking with tech talk guru, Craig Peterson, our good friend who loves the little cold snap in the air right now. Alright. Let's get to Oracle and TikTok. Now, you know, I, I don't post things on TikTok but I did register my name so that I would have Jim Polito on TikTok as I do on everything else because someday, maybe, you know, people, my age will take over TikTok. I don't know.  I found it. They talk to me decently. I was explaining to my stepsons. They said you're on TikTok. And they said, well, wait a minute. I'm not posting anything. I do view stuff on TikTok and I said, my TikTok experience is much different than yours and they said, what do you mean? I said, my TikTok experiences, politics and home improvement, and maybe motorcycles and the rolling stones. You know, like that's the kind of stuff that gets sent to me. Cause that's the kind of stuff that I like. Oracle now beats out Microsoft to buy this platform owned by the Chinese communists.  I've been looking forward to hearing your take on this Craig Peterson: [00:07:34] This real interesting thing, because it's the first time ever I'm aware of where some deal like this has happened. Certainly during the war, we had businesses that were broken up. For instance, Bayer here in the US that makes the aspirin was a German company in world war two. Congress divested the German company, Bayer of all interest in the United States. And, given the company to some buddies, right. But you know, maybe not that I couldn't happen here in the United States. What we're looking at right now is this company called Bytedance, which is this Chinese company. Don't think of companies under socialism the way we think of them under a typical free market. The company is controlled by the socialists in China, by the Chinese communist party. They were sending data to China. And anything that goes to China is monitored by the Chinese military. They've been using some of our drone footage, which is why these Chinese drones are illegal to use for government contractors, and many others because they have GPS in them. They're showing video it's giving them the exact GPS coordinates and they'd probably have a better map of the United States than we do now. When it comes to TikTok much the same problem. We're taking videos. We're giving locations where we are, who our friends are. So if they want to trick you into something with phishing, et cetera, they now have enough information to do it. So that's why President Trump said that. This is it. I am invoking these powers that have been with the president in Congress for many, many decades now. I am going to force the divestiture of TikTok. Or it's going to be illegal to have on the stores here in the US. So where we're at right now is the Chinese government said we will not allow Microsoft to buy TikTok. So that came in over the weekend and that's when Oracle's rose to the top. Cause Microsoft and Walmart were, kind of, going into together. Walmart really wanted to control it and Microsoft would do the technology. But what they're going to do is bring it here, under US control. But unlike the Bayer Aspirin factory, where you can have someone go when you can see there is no socialist influence here. The national socialists of Germany are not here running it anymore, it's the Americans. You can't audit all of this code, that is TikTok in a matter of days, weeks, months, or maybe even years. There's still going to be problems here, but it is moving in the right direction. Oracle is an odd company and their pricing strategy historically has been to grab people by the ankles and shake them upside down and see how much money comes out and that's how much it costs to buy their database. Jim Polito: [00:10:39] Isn't the CEO of Oracle kind of an odd duck. Craig Peterson: [00:10:44] Oh yeah. He has the biggest Yacht in the world. And he is very, very, very, very strange, Larry Elison. This is going to be interesting on that front alone is TikTok going to become a charge for service? What's going to happen? But we're not going to get the security we want out of TikTok for some time. But I would imagine initially the servers are going to move directly in the US, under US control, and Oracles going to be mandated to not allow any of that data to go to China. They will probably be able to stop most of that from happening. Jim Polito: [00:11:19] Unless, of course, there's some little sleeper bit of code somewhere in there that the Chinese have developed, but we'll see. Interesting. I feel better. Look, I never really cared about the Chinese knowing what I'm looking at on TikTok and where I am. I'm not important. But maybe we just don't want the Chinese to know what do Americans do and where do they go to be able to mine, that kind of information about us. Maybe in that respect, I don't care as an individual, but I care as a country. We'll see. The good thing is, Craig we have you here with us to watch this whole thing. Very helpful information, especially about voting and everything else. So Craig, if people want to know more about Craig Peterson, I guess they can tune in on Saturdays, but there are other ways to reach you. Craig Peterson: [00:12:11] Yeah. In fact, starting today, I have a couple of times a week. You got to have emails going out there about a three-minute read. I'm trying to keep these short to help you understand what's going on here in the tech business, particularly securities, I'm giving you some tips, some tricks, other things. I'll be doing live pieces of training, all of this free. I'm not trying to sell something right. This isn't the way you might expect it to be, but I am going to be putting that out and you can get it by going to Craig peterson.com/subscribe, correct. peterson.com slash subscribe. You'll get my weekly newsletter, which covers everything Jim and I talk about. And even some things we don't get to as well as some of this real quick minute training that I'm going to be doing. Jim Polito: [00:12:58] That's fantastic. The Craig Peterson show, if you want to listen Saturday mornings at 11 o'clock on WTAG obviously in Western mass, you can use the iHeart radio app. And, there you have Mr. Peterson. We've got you covered front to back. Thank you. Craig so much enjoys the Canadian weather and we'll talk with you next week. Craig Peterson: [00:13:19] Indian summer. Alright? Bye-bye. Keep an eye out for this first email today, these three-minute emails. And let me know what you think if it's worth my doing, I think it is. And I'm sure it'll get better, but what do you think might make it a little bit better as well? All right. Take care, everybody, and we'll be back tomorrow. Bye-bye. ---  More stories and tech updates at: www.craigpeterson.com Don't miss an episode from Craig. Subscribe and give us a rating: www.craigpeterson.com/itunes Follow me on Twitter for the latest in tech at: www.twitter.com/craigpeterson For questions, call or text: 855-385-5553

Good morning everybody! I was on with Matt this morning and we began with talking about how to protect your kids when they are on the internet doing their school work and I gave a tip that will really help you.  Then we discussed a Wordpress vulnerability and Apple's newest iOS update. Let's get into my conversation with Matt on WGAN. These and more tech tips, news, and updates visit - CraigPeterson.com --- Automated Machine Generated Transcript: Craig Peterson: [00:00:00] That will stop your kids from going to no malicious sites and some of the darker corners of the internet. Absolutely free. Check it out. Good morning, everybody. Craig Peterson here, and that was me with Mr. Matt this morning. It's been one of those interesting weeks. Monday of course, was a holiday. So I wasn't on the air. Tuesday, there was a problem with the board over at the next radio station that I'm normally on Tuesday mornings. WTAG would Jim Polito and this morning it all seemed to go all right. So here we go with Matt. Matt Gagnon: [00:00:38] It's seven 36 on the WGAN and morning news on Wednesday morning, which means Craig Peterson joins us as he always does at this time. Craig, how are you? Craig Peterson: [00:00:46] Hey, good morning. Matt Gagnon: [00:00:48] Doing all right. Thanks for asking Craig Peterson: [00:00:49] Confusing stuff, elections, and everything. My gosh, Matt Gagnon: [00:00:53] Indeed. So Craig let's get right into things here. Lots of topics to go into, but, cybersecurity and going back to school would be, I think, topical for us here to begin with, because of course, as I'm sure, most people in Maine were going back to school as of yesterday, whether they were physically going back to school or if it was remote, they were going back to school. So why should cybersecurity be on your back school list? Craig Peterson: [00:01:16] it's important because frankly, our kids are now being exposed to who knows what, when they're online. So the basics are your child is going online. Hopefully, they're just going to the school site. But how many of us are monitoring our kids very closely. The bottom line is they're not. And then, on the second side of this, we've got the schools themselves who are terribly overloaded and those poor school workers who are trying to do the, IT now has to protect all of the school systems from ultimately all of this malware that's coming in. From the students' computers that are hooked up to the school, depending on how this is working. So think about it for just a sec, your kids might be writing a paper and sending in maybe a word doc. We already know about problems with word docs and cybersecurity, where the macros that can be in some of those word docs. Can be misused. Then that gets sent into the teacher whose computers now infected. It may be stored on a server at the school that's now infecting more and more kids. So we've gotta be careful on both sides here, both the school and the parents. I have a quick piece of advice. There's some software out there you can get it free, or you can pay for it. I advise you to pay for it. A very inexpensive it's called Umbrella. Again, it's by Cisco, a very good in stopping some of the ransomware spread and you can get a version of Umbrella, right there, free from their website that will stop your kids from going to no malicious sites and some of the darker corners of the internet. Absolutely free. Check it out. It's called Cisco Umbrella. Matt Gagnon: [00:03:04] There are many dark corners of the internet, Craig Peterson, our tech guru joins us at this time as he does every Wednesday. Craig, I am a, on the side, an amateur WordPress developer. I noticed in the number of things that you had to talk about here today, that one of those things was that there was a gigantic security flaw in WordPress sites. About 350,000 of them have been affected in some fashion. What's up with this? Craig Peterson: [00:03:28] Yeah, this is a very, again, very big call for people to pay attention. We know we've got to update our laptops, our phones, even. Although sometimes you can't get updates on some of the older pieces of equipment, which I respond to that. Hey, get the newer pieces of equipment, if you can't get updates. When you're talking about WordPress, this is software that used to manage the content on your website. Most smaller companies use WordPress as the basis for their website. So the big question is when was the last time. You did an update on your WordPress site because again, it's software, it needs to be updated. There's a package that you're referring to here called file manager, which is a plugin. It advances, it augments the features. WordPress has. It has a huge vulnerability in it and people just have not been updating. Now in the WordPress side, there are some plugins that you can get that will automatically update your website for you and update your plugins for you. I use those all the time. worth looking into. Depending on where your WordPress site is hosted, some hosting facilities will do some updates to your WordPress site, most of them are afraid of breaking your site. Personally, I use WP-engine. Is the name of the site for hosting some of my WordPress sites, just the basic ones. They do keep it up to date. They've got great tech support. They cost a little bit more. In fact, it's a lot more. Matt Gagnon: [00:05:09] Yea they do. Craig Peterson: [00:05:10] Have a look at those. At the very least use one of these free plugins that will do updates for you automatically. Matt Gagnon: [00:05:17] Finally Craig, before I let you go, I do also want to bring up the new iOS update because we're living in a pandemic world and the new update has a system apparently inside of it that helps to fight against the pandemic a little bit in some fashion. What does that actually entail? Craig Peterson: [00:05:32] Yea, this was not expected, frankly, here? This is the new release of iOS. In fact, there is a little battle going on over the new. Releases that are coming out as well. We've got Facebook fighting back on it. There was this plan that we talked about Matt, where Apple and Google had a pandemic tracker who you've come in contact with. Well, Apple included it in the latest version of iOS as 13.7. People are a little bit concerned about it, but Apple does have it set up in such a way that it's not squealing or reporting on you.  It does allow you to participate if you want to. It will prompt you to opt-in, to receive notifications. If this contract tracing data shows that you may have been exposed. So it's up to you. You can use it, or not use it, but it wasn't a surprise. We knew they were working on it, but we didn't know. That they were about to release it. Matt Gagnon: [00:06:32] Craig Peterson our tech guru. He joins us at this time every Wednesday to go over the world of technology. Of course, you can hear more details about this on his show, which has heard on this very station on Saturdays Craig, we appreciate you joining us as always. And we'll talk to you again next week Craig Peterson: [00:06:45] Hey take care of Matt. Thanks. Matt Gagnon: [00:06:47] You bet. Thanks a lot. Craig Peterson: [00:06:48] Hey everybody starting next week, we are planning to have some major changes up on the website, a new type of email. We're going to be sending out a couple of midweek emails with long-tail stuff.  n other words, some information you need to know. Just reminding you, letting you know what's new that you can read in two or three minutes, just trying to keep this simple for everybody and keep everybody up to date. So keep an eye out for that. Everybody who has subscribed to my email list over at craigpeterson.com will be getting those.  So have a great rest of the week and we'll be back on Saturday. Take care, everybody. Bye-bye.   ---  More stories and tech updates at: www.craigpeterson.com Don't miss an episode from Craig. Subscribe and give us a rating: www.craigpeterson.com/itunes Follow me on Twitter for the latest in tech at: www.twitter.com/craigpeterson For questions, call or text: 855-385-5553

Welcome, Good Monday morning, everybody. Craig Peterson here. I was on with Alicia Preston this morning who was sitting in for Jack Heath and we discussed some of the hacking that has been going on here using breached information that has been gathered.  We also discussed Elon Musks Neuralink implants and Russia and Chinese espionage.  Here we go with Alicia. These and more tech tips, news, and updates visit - CraigPeterson.com ---  Automated Machine Generated Transcript: Craig Peterson: [00:00:00] It's estimated right now over 300 billion records. And so they've been taking all of those, put into them together, trying to find the matches and they have been finding matches and it turns out the out they found, Alicia Preston's, and they sent Alicia an email, pretending it was from the aunt. Hi, Craig Peterson here. I haven't had that much fun in a while. I had a great little chat this morning. Alicia Preston sitting in for Mr. Jack Heath, and we talked about three or four different things, including a red flag here about being hacked and ransomware and a warning of the latest warning. In fact that I have been giving out this last week. So here we go with Alicia. Alisha Preston: [00:00:45] Good morning. Welcome back to New Hampshire today. Alicia Preston in for Jack Heath today. Joining us on the AutoFair listener line. We have Craig Peterson. He hosts Tech-Talk on the station over the weekends, and he's going to tech talk with us now. How are you this morning? Craig Peterson: [00:01:01] Doing well. You brought back some memories this morning about talking when you were first a reporter and stuff, man, it's been a while. Alisha Preston: [00:01:09] I know, I forgot when I tell these stories that it points out that I'm old or ish. Craig Peterson: [00:01:15] Hey, I got you beat. I say, yeah. Alisha Preston: [00:01:19] Yeah. Craig Peterson: [00:01:20] There's a lot going on in the tech side this week and it's interesting to look at it. We all know Elon Musk, right? you're familiar with, of course, the Tesla and Space X. he's been doing something else too. He has another company that's been tracked in the scientific community called neuralink, N E U R a link. And these are implants that he says are close to being ready for human testing. The size of a very thick quarter that would be implanted in your brain about a thousand wires coming from this thing into your brain, that monitors your brain and the brain function, and the idea, ultimately, he'll be able to hook you up to the internet. Now I can see all sorts of potential for this thing. With the pigs, what he was able to do though is see the pig moving it's leg via this implant. So we got a long time to go before this is something to worry about. And we all become part of this star net, which also he's putting up in outer space, which is easy, low earth orbit satellites we'll be using for communications. Justin McIssac: [00:02:37] So Craig, space X I think is great. I'm down with that. That's awesome. I liked the fact that Elon Musk shot a car into the, into outer space for no reason. That was cool. Can't wait to be able to afford a Tesla someday. I'm going to put the brakes on  Elon Musk, putting a chip in my head because I've seen enough sci-fi movies to know where this ends up and it doesn't end up in a good place. I don't think. Alisha Preston: [00:02:57] Yeah. I'm with you, Justin. I'm going hard. No, I don't know why I would want that. I want to know. So he can see the pigs move. Can he read their minds? Because if it's, what are the pigs thinking about? Craig Peterson: [00:03:15] Yeah, we haven't gotten to that stage yet. all he can do is he can sense the pig's movement of its feet through the brain. You probably know different parts of the brain are responsible for a different stops without getting into all of it. But as far as reading your mind goes, The estimates are, we are many decades away from that, we've been surprised before Alicia. It's absolutely amazing what's happening out there. The other big story of course, of the week, is Apple. Hey, it turns out that Apple developed this huge platform. They have this app store where they review all of the apps to make sure they're safe. They market the apps and make them available to people. Heaven forbid Apple is charging developers to put their apps up on the app store. It's amazing. Now Facebook is fighting them. Facebook's trying to tell people Apple charges as 30% tax, is what they're calling it, on anything we sell via an app. Which has been happening for a long time, Alicia? Alisha Preston: [00:04:19] I actually know about this one because the kid plays Fortnite and had to get the PlayStation version so she could play because she can't do it on her phone anymore. Cause they're butting heads, the app store and fortnight. Craig Peterson: [00:04:34] Big time and they're removing a number of these games from the Apple app store. The reason is that now the makers of Fortnite and others have decided, we don't like to pay this, afterward tax, they'd call it. So we're just going to have people buy it directly from us and we'll give them a 10 or 20% discount. So they're actually making a few extra bucks and Apple said, wait a minute, that's against all of the terms, but it isn't just Apple. Google's doing the same thing with its play store. So this battle will continue for a while.  On one other quick thing. we just talked about Tesla and Elon Musk. Did you hear now about this Russian tourist that was just arrested he'd been chatting up a Tesla employee and offered him a million dollars to cripple. Tesla's Nevada Gigafactory that makes batteries with malware. Talking about espionage. It's not just the Chinese, the Russians are putting their money where the Chinese mouth is, right? Alisha Preston: [00:05:37] Why what's their problem with Tesla? Craig Peterson: [00:05:38] They want to get a head in both China and Russia of our technology and they have stolen it. I've seen it. With my own two eyes right here in New Hampshire with active Chinese backorders. But in this case, they really wanted to cripple the company. That's a good question. Were they going after the country? They wanted us to fall behind because Russia does have, in fact, a ripped-off version of the new Tesla truck that's being made by a couple of small companies over there. Or was this something else, that they haven't said yet? But the FBI has been busy arresting the Chinese nationals and now Russians for absolute out and out espionage. Justin McIssac: [00:06:22] Listen, I give you a million dollars. Perhaps you make Tesla not function as well. Eh, you put the moose and squirrel code into a Tesla source code. They didn't make it go away. Craig Peterson: [00:06:35] Yes. Exactly. So the Russians really did do something after all. Alisha Preston: [00:06:41] See. Now, I see you're going to be talking about ransomware red flags. Technology seems to be getting ahead when it comes to being able to contact people and try to get money from them. Just the other day, I get an email from an aunt I hadn't spoken to in two years and it was her name and it was to my actual email address saying, she needed to get an Amazon gift card for her niece. Could I get one for her?  I thought to myself, she's older,  maybe she actually doesn't know how to do this, but I decided to call my cousin, her son instead and she knew nothing about it. But that's how specific the targeting is getting. The people are replicating names and emails and contacting their contacts. Craig Peterson: [00:07:21] You're absolutely right. I've got one of those last weeks, too. I have a whole file of them and I break them out, when I'm doing these free training I do, to show people what's going on. That's a big one right now. I need an Amazon gift card for a relative. You've talked about the targeting. There have been many breaches of large systems, Equifax being the one that comes to mind for most people. Where well over 200 million people's personal information. Everything's available online, but the bad guys have been doing, not only do they have your name, social security number, et cetera, but they have breaches across the board. It's estimated right now, over 300 billion records. They've been taking all of those, putting them together, trying to find matches and they have been finding matches and it turns out, yeah, they found Alicia Prestons and they sent out Alicia an email, pretending it was from the aunt. Now, in some cases, what they do is they'll break into your aunt's email because yahoo and many others have been hacked. So let's go into the aunt's email. They will have a person look or they'll go having to have an artificial intelligence programmer, machine learning, look at the email. They'll find, Oh, she sent an email to Alicia Therefore, I'm going to send one using your aunt's actual account because her name and password were found online. Go to a website right now called have I been pwned.com? Have I been pwned and type in your email address, and it'll tell you everywhere that email is found on the dark web, all along with all of your other information that was stolen along with your email. Alisha Preston: [00:09:02] I'm not going to do that because I don't want to know, but that's good information. Craig Peterson: [00:09:09] P W N E D by the way, P W N E D Alisha Preston: [00:09:11] For those who want to be completed incredibly stressed out, go to that website and find out. Craig Peterson. Thank you so much for joining us. You can hear him on tech talk during, on the weekend on this station. Craig Peterson: [00:09:22] You too. that was fun and got a little bit longer than not usually too with Jack this morning. But, man, we are getting closer. I can't believe it's all like what September tomorrow. We will we'll have some stuff comin' up for you. We've been very busy. So keep an eye out on your emails. Hopefully, you're on my email list. If you're not, you won't get my newsletter. But you also won't find out about all this training they're going to be doing and all kinds of very cool information. The goal here is to send out the newsletter, but also to other little emails every week, just going down one big point. We were trying to keep it. So it's two or three minutes, but doing some education, on, of course, cybersecurity, the weekend newsletter is going to be like, it always has been more or less, some cybersecurity, some other cool stuff. Like I was talking with Alicia this morning about with, over at Elon Musk's company where they're doing brain implants. The midweek stuff is going to be little bits of training to help you out. Keep your mind on. Just remember their cybersecurity issues out there. So make sure you've subscribed. Again, Craig peterson.com/subscribe.  I expect I'll be back on the 'morrow. Take care of everybody. Bye-bye. --- More stories and tech updates at: www.craigpeterson.com Don't miss an episode from Craig. 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Good morning everybody! I was on with Matt this morning and we had a good discussion about Self-Driving Cars, Adaptive Cruise Control, and what AAA found about their programming logic. Then we got into Tik Tok, WeChat, and Tencent and Why what President Trump's action was absolutely justified.   Let's get into my conversation with Matt on WGAN. These and more tech tips, news, and updates visit - CraigPeterson.com --- Automated Machine Generated Transcript: [00:00:00] Craig Peterson: Is it going to avoid it by changing lanes? By stopping? What it going to do? In almost all the cases, these cars rear-ended this car slash balloon that was sitting right there in the lane. Hey, good morning, Craig Peterson here. I had a great little interview this morning. I was on WGAN and affiliates AM and FM they're in Maine in Portland. And I having fun with Matt. He actually took a little bit of a different angle on this, this morning. So we talked about what I think is the number one story this week. And we talked about what our friend Matt thinks. The number one story is this week. And, uh, yeah, I opened his eyes. He didn't realize what was really going on with President Trump's executive order about Tik Tok and We Chat. So here we go. [00:01:00] Matt Gagnon: It is Wednesday morning. It is Craig Peterson who joins us now. He is our tech guru and joins us every Wednesday at this time. We appreciate it as always. Craig, how are you this morning, sir? Craig's try it again. Where are you? There you go. There we go. Now I hear from you. Craig Peterson: There's always a button. Matt Gagnon: There is always a button and it's good to have you with us and Craig, you know, I am told, although I'm not certain about this, I am told that you also have a show on Saturday here. Is that true? Craig Peterson: Yeah, I do from one til three on Saturday, and I take a much deeper dive into all of my show notes and the hot topics for the week. And you know, if you get my newsletter, not only do we discuss some of this stuff with Matt, but we get right into it all. Matt Gagnon: Indeed. So Craig, on what's on the top of your mind, here's a, I'm going to approach this a little differently with you usually, because I know you send a, you send the topics every week and we talk about a lot of the things that you're talking about, but what is this. [00:02:00] Stand out the story for you this week, in terms of tech topics, what is the thing that, that burns in your mind about what you said? Yeah, Craig Peterson: Burning a hole here. I think kind of a big one. We've got the obvious things were some real problems with security, but that's kind of almost every week. The one that really gets to me is this article. That's talking about a AAA study. Now everybody knows who AAA is. They are as car folk, right. That you can drive. They used to have trip ticks. I remember making those up and taking the family on vacation. Now they've, they've kind of shifted a little bit, but they were looking at these adaptive cruise controls and basically what most people are calling self-driving car technology. [00:03:00] And there've been some reports of these adaptive cruise control, this self-driving technology, driving people right into the rear of fire trucks, from which, of course, is not a fun thing to hit, of police cars and other things. So basically, they thought they would check it out a little bit, and then he tested a number of different vehicles and the way they tested them as they parked a balloon on the road. A lot like a car and it was designed here now to give the car an object. So you're driving down the road with your adaptive cruise control on that car sitting there. Is it going to avoid it by changing lanes, by stopping? What's it going to do? And in almost all of the cases, these cars are rear-ended this car slash balloon that was sitting right there in the lane. I don't mean like it's two inches into the lane. I mean, it was right in the lane. To me, that is huge news because we have all been looking forward to good automation, which of course isn't here yet, but many of us have these adaptive cruise controls, Matt. [00:04:00] Matt Gagnon: Right. I was going to say, this is already a technology that is in like a lot of Tesla cars and a lot of other places that have this adaptive sort of technology that, uh, that I think Lee makes a lot of people feel. Like if it's in the car and sellable to you right now that it's totally safe and you're fine. And you can, you can just kinda like put it on cruise control almost and let it do the rest. Craig Peterson: Yeah. So, it's not a hundred percent of the time. Some of the cars, like the BMW X7, stopped in one out of three runs and that new Kia Telluride, which is a gorgeous car. I hit the dummy vehicle in all three 30 mile-an-hour runs. The problem appears to be that they have maps of the roads and it doesn't have that map doesn't have everything that's around the road. Of course, the surroundings are changing, and these cars seem to be assuming that if something is fixed. It's probably off of the road. It's probably a road sign except, or et cetera. [00:05:00] And this is where the big arguments coming out now, are we better off having something like LIDAR on our cars, which is giving it a full three-D view. It can figure out if things are moving, where they are. In respect to you. Or go with what Tesla is doing because Elon Musk and Tesla are very heavily reliant on just cameras. So, they don't use a three-D view. Yeah. So, what's going to work best and there still are some radar-based systems. And that's the check really from 10 to 20 years. Matt Gagnon: And those things basically, I mean, they send out like a, almost a Doppler signal to see. Where things are and, and, and basically how physically close they are. And they use, you know, the complex math system and the computers to try to judge the car's speed and angle and whatever, to try to make sure that, of course, it avoids things. It just, it strikes me as weird. That be the way that we want a car that is autonomous in some way to operate. Right. I mean, you want, you know, who cares if a stationary object is a sign or something else if it's on the curb of the road and you're about to run into it. You want a car to see that? I mean, think about it like a kid that's frozen or a deer that's not moving or, I mean, any number of things, right. You want to be able to judge where that thing actually is. [00:06:00] Craig Peterson: Yeah, absolutely. So these adaptive cruise control. If you have it and you want to use it, what it is is good for is keeping you in the lane. What is not good for it appears here from this study is avoiding accidents. By the way, Cadillac's super crew. Was it different than some of these other vehicles they tested from being BMW Ford, Kia and Subaru at its drivers only had to intervene about eight times and 800 miles of driving. So, it was actually pretty good. So, these things are going to get better, but just don't trust the stuff itself. [00:07:00] Matt Gagnon: Craig Peterson, our tech guru joins us at this time every Wednesday to go over the world of technology, Craig, it would be remiss of me to not bring up Tik Tok with you here. I know that we've touched on and hovered around this topic a little bit, uh, you know, in previous weeks here, but you know, the president signed that executive order that basically threw the hammer down on the Chinese company. Any part of Tik Tok as it operates in the United States? Um, I guess my question for you is, is twofold. Number one, exactly. How does it work? What, what they're, what that app is doing, and what is the real security concern, and then number two, what do you think of the executive order? I mean, is that the appropriate action to be taking in this regard? Craig Peterson: Yeah, we've got a couple of things we're looking at here. We have WeChat and Tik Tok, which are both equally effective money transactions were banned from these Chinese companies. So it's Bytedance and Tencent. Those are the names of the companies that own those technologies. [00:08:00] Now, we have caught our friends at Tik Tok multiple times now getting information from our phones and stealing information from our phones. Particularly if your phone has been rooted, if you have jailbroken your phone, you have now opened up your phone to all kinds of evil, and we have caught Tik Tok doing that. Tencent, this is really kind of scary here because this is, this is a bad thing for Tencent, but I talked about Tencent on my show a couple of months ago here, because what they were caught doing is putting code into windows operating system that allowed them 100% access to everything on your machine, from your keyboard and mouse. Through every file on your machine. And Tencent said they did that in order to help stop cheating. Tencent has some of the most popular video games in use today in the United States. Tik Tok, of course, which is Bytedance has this wonderful little app. That's very, very addictive. And obviously the Chinese spent a lot of money on it. [00:09:00] Is it worth doing? I can say. Absolutely. Yes. I was so disappointed the owners and CEOs of these big tech companies, testifying, I have personally seen right here, multiple companies throughout New England who are now clients of mine who had. Active Chinese back doors in their systems where the Chinese had stolen their intellectual property. And in some cases, yeah, stolen every penny out of their operating accounts. So, is China a threat? 100%! Is it doing it? I have firsthand knowledge of them doing it in companies that are now my clients. And it puts businesses just completely out of business. Is Tik Tok a threat. Absolutely. The latest thing they were caught doing is capturing everything from your copy buffer. Is Tencent a threat? Are you kidding me having complete control over your computer without your knowledge? So you can play a video game. Yeah, I don't think President Trump went far enough. [00:10:00] Matt Gagnon: There you go. Well, Craig Peterson, our tech guru joins us at this time to go over the world of technology as he always does. And of course, as you heard just a few moments ago, he also has a show on Saturdays that you can hear as well. If you want to get any of these topics and so many more in more depth and detail, Craig, we really appreciate it as always. And we'll talk to you again very soon. Craig Peterson: Hey, take care, Matt. Matt Gagnon: Thanks a lot. Alright, so coming up next. Sure. Craig Peterson: Hey, thanks, guys. I appreciate you joining me today. I was spent time yesterday, a few hours with our video guy. We're going to do some more work today. And what I'm trying to do here is put together a bunch of well kind of classes, courses, and stuff. So I think what I'm going to do before really get into this too much is send out an email. [00:11:00] To everybody kind of asking you. So what if you had the opportunity, what would you do? So, uh, or what you'd like me to do here for you? Uh, for instance, you want to become like, uh, my friend Guy who decided after a full career, pretty much he wanted to go into cybersecurity. Cause there are millions of open jobs, even right now there are jobs in cybersecurity, but you have to learn it. So do you want me to teach you guys? More about cybersecurity. So you have more job security and job options. Would you like me to just kind of get you out of a hole that you might be in with your cybersecurity? What do I do? What are the basics? Then give me the basics or something in between. So let me know. [00:12:00] I would love to know. Okay. Cause I really want to help you guys out. It's me M E @craigpeterson.com. So drop me an email. Now I'm going to do a lot of free training as well as some of the paid training. And obviously the free training is going to be kind of long-tail just on some specific narrow topics, but lots of them, cause I don't want to confuse people, but uh, how about a more professional sort of course. So let me know. Again, Craig at Craig peterson.com. Take care, everybody. And we'll be back this weekend. ---  More stories and tech updates at: www.craigpeterson.com Don't miss an episode from Craig. Subscribe and give us a rating: www.craigpeterson.com/itunes Follow me on Twitter for the latest in tech at: www.twitter.com/craigpeterson For questions, call or text: 855-385-5553

Welcome! Craig the crackdown by big tech on conservative points of view and publications. For more tech tips, news, and updates visit - CraigPeterson.com --- Read More: Iranian Spies Accidentally Leaked Videos of Themselves Hacking Twitter breach exposes one of tech's biggest threats: Its own employees Cybercriminals Turning Bullies; Ransomware the Latest Weapon of Torture FBI Issues Cybersecurity Warning to Air Travelers New wave of attacks aiming to rope home routers into IoT botnets The Streaming Wars: A Cybercriminal’s Perspective Emotet spam trojan surges back to life after 5 months of silence Apple's Next MacBook Could Solve the Worst Thing About Working Remotely --- Automated Machine-Generated Transcript: [00:00:00] We just talked about NBC news to put their competition out of business when it comes to ZeroHedge. Now we're going to talk about what they did to the federalist. And what does it mean to free speech in America? Hey everybody, Craig Peterson here. Thanks for being with me today. I'm a little worked up about this, as you can tell, and I'll probably already, I'm an immigrant to the United States. And I don't know, or sometimes I think the immigrant we care, I don't know that we care a little bit more, but we tend to be a little more vocal when some of our rights, the rights that we went out of our way to obtain. When those rights are taken away from us. It's just crazy. NBC also was behind the crack down on the Federalist, according to Fox news, this is absolutely crazy. Now our friends over at Google said, no, not at all. we talked to the Federalist and yeah. yeah. they've straightened out their games, so we're not going to demonetize them. Can you believe that? [00:01:00] No, I'm glad to learn of NBC newses role in trying to stop the Federalist from saying anything that might be conservative or libertarian heaven forbid. it's just absolutely crazy here, but. Many members of the media out there are activists and the disguise of journalists. It's just, it's crazy. They're not reporting the news. So I think they've just exposed themselves for who they are. Frankly. It's clear that they don't have any objectivity. Now it's become even more clear. Ben Shapiro was talking about that this week as well. There's the Federalists ended up taking down the comments section after Google deemed it dead dangerous. [00:02:00] And do you rogatory that's the part that just blows my mind away. And all the comment section, that's like the letters to the editor and then yeah. And I get it that it is more than way wild West, right? There are certain things newspapers would never have published in the editorial section, certainly, and would never publish in letters to the editor. So I get that. But, and frankly, Looking at websites and some of the comments, some of these comments are just out outlandish. Unbelievable. so I get all of that stuff, but Hey man, we need an equal footing out there somehow. And, I don't know. I don't know where to go. I have been using partly. Or parlor P A R L E R, which is a new app. It is also a website and it is a reality for free speech. That's what they're for. You can basically say anything on there. Obviously slander libel is not welcome there. But there are a lot of great conservative voices. So you might want to check it out. Parlor, P A R L E R and I do think he came from Parlay, which is a French word for all of that sort of thing. [00:03:00] But man, things are, they've gone too far and I don't know what's going to happen. the typical pendulums swing we've seen over the years may or may not work now. Some of our listeners are going to be dropping off because my whole show is not carried on all stations. And so I just want to let you know, we're going to be doing deep dives and you may miss part of it, but you can get. All of it. If you go to Craig peterson.com online. Okay. So we're talking about GoToMeeting, Cisco's WebEx. We'll be talking about Microsoft Teams and Zoom. We're doing deep dives into all of these. [00:04:00] And if you're on my email list, we're working right now. On a special report that totally deep dives into all of this stuff and tells you the pros and cons. we're putting together a little table of some of the features on these. We might be adding a couple of others as well beyond these four, which are really the top ones out there. We're not going to be getting into. Slack really, because although that is somewhat of a collaboration platform and it does have some conferencing abilities, it's really not like the other one. So I don't know that we'll really get into that one very much, but a sock is something I've used over the past. I don't use it anymore. Cause I'm using Cisco WebEx, which has pretty much all of the features. That Slack has, they were aiming for Slack parody in some of the angles. And then of course they're much better than Slack in some of the other angles. So if your station is dropping me off, make sure you're on my email list. [00:05:00] Craig peterson.com/subscribe bribe. I'll be sending something out. Probably this week, but maybe not until the week after where we get into these deep dives on these collaboration platforms, we may also be doing some lives on Facebook, and on YouTube, maybe on webinars, we'll figure this out. Love me. No. How about we do this, everybody? What's the best platform for you? Send an email to me, M E@craigpeterson.com. I answer all of them. It might take me a day or two or three because I do have a lot of emails I have to go through and I do try and answer them all personally, but send me an email really. [00:06:00] It's me. M E at Craig peterson.com. I'm not going to be harassing you. Okay. And this is all wonderful free stuff. And it's the stuff you need to know. It's stuff you need to deal with. And if you're on that at Craig peterson.com/subscribe, you'll be sure to get that email once we've got the special report on the collaboration systems, ready to go. So we'll be sending that out. You can download it. I'm not somebody that's just going to be harassing you continually. if you're on my email list, you're going to get it. And you don't have to sign up for anything. You don't have to pay for anything. It's not part of some big upsell or anything else it's just there and it's there for you. So Craig peterson.com/subscribe. And we're getting, going into all of that here in just a few minutes, as I said, a lot of you guys are going to be dropping off. So before you drop off, I want to let you know about a couple of big issues this week. We already talked about Windows 10, 2004. Now that's not, when it was released, Microsoft has gone to this. [00:07:00] Basically they have data daily, internal builds, and then they named the release after the build number. So it's 2004 and the major problem that's happening right now with their rate alternative. If you miss that, make sure you again, you can visit me online. Craig peterson.com or. Just subscribe to my podcast as well. It's everywhere. And I described what it was, what it's all about, but we also have a major problem right now with a link. we are not upgrading our firewalls. We're not upgrading our wi-fi routers. Particularly in our homes. And how many of us as business people are using consumer-grade homes systems to track I'm protecting our small businesses. [00:08:00] We see it every day. We just on a Thursday this week, I was talking. With one of our lead techs and he was helping a business that helps businesses with their networks and securities and backups. And it turned out that they had a major problem. That they weren't aware of at all until we installed some special security software, the stuff we use with all of our clients. And we found out that his backup software was not anywhere near compliant with even the most basic of regulations. It's just crazy. But anyway, we have to upgrade the firmware in our routers. So right now we've got a new release from de-link that we're getting warnings about from everywhere. They've got a firmware update to address three major security flaws that are impacting one of their home router models. [00:09:00] So they're not going to mention the model number because I want you guys, everybody, whether you're running on something from dealings or from somebody else, make sure you upgrade it. But, this is just crazy here. They've got a command injection attack problem. They've got a cross-site request, forgery high severity, by the way, both of these critical severities, it goes on and on they're pseudo-random number generator, major problem, by the way, not fixed. Anyhow, make sure he visited me online. Get on that email list. So you don't miss a thing. Craig peterson.com/subscribe. Go there right now, everybody. Hey, have a great day. If you're losing me, if not stick around, because we're going to be getting into this, we've got a lot more to come. --- More stories and tech updates at: www.craigpeterson.com Don't miss an episode from Craig. Subscribe and give us a rating: www.craigpeterson.com/itunes Follow me on Twitter for the latest in tech at: www.twitter.com/craigpeterson For questions, call or text: 855-385-5553

Welcome! Craig’s walking you through a deep dive of the Pros and Cons of Online Collaboration Tools for Businesses and the Security implications for Businesses who have Regulatory Requirements.  For more tech tips, news, and updates visit - CraigPeterson.com --- Read More: Twitter wants to know if you meant to share that article DHS Warns on New Exploit of Windows 10 Vulnerability FBI Says Sudden Increase in Mobile Banking Is Heightening Risks For Users What COVID-19 Teaches Us About Social Engineering UPnP flaw exposes millions of network devices to attacks over the Internet --- Automated Machine-Generated Transcript: We just talked about NBC news to put their competition out of business when it comes to Zero Hedge. Well, now we're going to talk about what they did to The Federalist. What does it mean to free speech in America? [00:00:17] Hey everybody, Craig Peterson here. Thanks for being with me today. I'm a little worked up about this, as you can tell, and you know probably already, I'm an immigrant to the United States. I don't know. Sometimes I think immigrants, we care, I don't know that we care a little bit more, but we tend to be a little more vocal when some of our rights, the rights that we went out of our way to obtain when those rights are taken away from us. [00:00:45] It's just crazy. Well, NBC also was behind a crackdown on the Federalist, according to Fox news. This is absolutely crazy. Now our friends over at Google said, Oh, no, no, not at all. We, we talked to the Federalist and, yeah, yeah, yeah. They've, they've straightened out their games, so we're not going to demonetize them. [00:01:11] Can you believe that? No, I'm glad to learn NBC news is the role in trying to stop the Federalist, from saying anything that might be conservative or libertarian heaven forbid. Right? it's just absolutely crazy here, but. Many members of the media out there are activists disguised as journalists. [00:01:36] It's just, it's crazy. They're not reporting the news. So I think they've just exposed themselves for who they are. Frankly. It's clear that they don't have any objectivity. Now it's become even more clear. Ben Shapiro was talking about that this week as well. There's the Federalists ended up taking down the comment section after Google deemed it dangerous and derogatory, that's the part that just blows my mind away. No, the comment section, that's kind of like the letters to the editor. I get it that it is more of the wild West, right? There are certain things newspapers would never have published, in the editorial section, certainly. and would never have published in letters to the editor. [00:02:27] So I, I get that. Right. But, and frankly, Looking at websites and some of the comments, some of these comments are just out, out outlandish. Unbelievable. So I get all of that stuff, but Hey man, we need an equal footing out there somehow. And I don't know, I don't know where to go. I have been using parler. [00:02:52] Or Parler, P A R L E R, which is a new app. It is also a website and it is really for free speech. That's what they're for. You can basically say anything on there. Obviously slander, libel, is not welcome there. But there are a lot of great conservative voices. So you might want to check it out. Parler, P A  R L E R  and I, I do think he came from Parler pronounced par-lay, which is a French word for all of that sort of thing. But man, things are, they've gone too far and I don't know what's going to happen. You know, the typical pendulums swing we've seen over the years may or may not work now. Some of our listeners are going to be dropping off because my whole show is not carried on all stations. [00:03:44] And so I just want to let you know, we're going to be doing deep dives and you may miss part of it, but you can get. All of it. If you go to Craig peterson.com online. [00:03:59] Okay. So we're talking about Go-to-meeting, Cisco's WebEx. We'll be talking about Microsoft Teams and Zoom. We're doing deep dives into all of these, and if you're on my email list, we're working right now. [00:04:15] On a special report that totally deep dives into all of this stuff and tells you the pros and cons. we're putting together a little table of some of the features on these. We might be adding a couple of others as well beyond these four, which are really the top ones out there. [00:04:35] We're not going to be getting into Slack really, because although that is somewhat of a collaboration platform and it does have some conferencing abilities, it's really not like the other ones. So I don't know that we'll really get into that one very much, but a Slack is something I've used in the past. I don't use it anymore. Cause I'm using Cisco WebEx, which has pretty much all of the features that Slack has, they were aiming for Slack parody in some of the angles. [00:05:05] Of course they're much better than Slack in some of the other angles. So if your station is dropping me off, make sure you're on my email list. Craig peterson.com/subscribe. I'll be sending something out. Probably this week, but maybe not until the week after where we get into these deep dives on these collaboration platforms, we may also be doing some lives on Facebook and on YouTube, maybe on webinars, you know, we'll, we'll figure this out. [00:05:36] Love me. No. How about we do this, everybody? What's the best platform for you? Send an email to me, M E at Craig Peterson dot com. You know, I answer all of them. It might take me a day or two or three because I do have a lot of emails I have to go through and I do try and answer them all personally, but send me an email. [00:05:57] It's me. M E at Craig Peterson dot com. I'm not going to be harassing you. Okay. And this is all wonderful free stuff. And it's the stuff you need to know to deal with. If you're on that at Craig peterson.com/subscribe, you'll be sure to get that email once we've got the special report on the collaboration systems, ready to go. [00:06:19] So we'll be sending that out. You can download it. I'm not somebody that's just going to be harassing you continually. if you're on my email list, you're going to get it. And you don't have to sign up for anything. You don't have to pay for anything. It's not part of some big upsell or anything else it's just there and it's there for you. [00:06:39] So Craig peterson.com/subscribe. We're getting, going into all of that here in just a few minutes, as I said, a lot of you guys are going to be dropping off. So before you drop off, I want to let you know about a couple of big issues this week. We already talked about it. Windows 10, 2004. Now that's not, when it was released, Microsoft has gone to this. [00:07:07] Basically they have daily internal builds and then they name the release after the build number. So it's 2004 and the major problem that's happening right now with their raid alternative. If you miss that, make sure you visit me online. Craig peterson.com or. Just subscribe to my podcast as well. [00:07:28] It's everywhere. And I described what it was, what it's all about, but we also have a major problem right now with D-link. You know, we are not upgrading our firewalls. We're not upgrading our wifi routers. Particularly in our homes. And how many of us as business people are using consumer-grade homes systems to try and protect our small businesses. [00:07:57] We see it every day. We just, just on a Thursday this week, I was talking. With one of our lead techs and he was helping a business that helps businesses with their networks and securities and backups. And it turned out that they had a major, major problem. That they weren't aware of at all until we installed some special security software, the stuff we use with all of our clients. [00:08:26] And we found out that his backup software was not anywhere near compliant with even the most basic of regulations. It's just crazy. But anyway, we have to upgrade the firmware in our routers. So right now we've got a new release from d-link that we're getting warnings about from everywhere. They've got a firmware update to address three major security flaws that are impacting one of their home router models. [00:08:58] They're not going to mention the model number because I want you guys to everybody, whether you're running on something from dealings or from somebody else, make sure you upgrade it. But, this is just crazy here. They've got a command injection attack problem. They've got a cross-site request, forgery high severity, by the way, both of these critical severities, it goes on and on they're pseudo-random number generator, major problem, by the way, not fixed, not fixed. [00:09:29] Anyhow, make sure he visited me online. Get on that email list. So you don't miss a thing. Craig peterson.com/subscribe. Go there right now, everybody. Hey, have a great day. If you're losing me, if not stick around, because we're going to be getting into this, we've got a lot more to come. --- More stories and tech updates at: www.craigpeterson.com Don't miss an episode from Craig. 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After being hospitalised three times with stress related heart problems and burnout, which included flat-lining in the emergency room, Craig Johns realised that he needed to be more than a leader of high performance and become a high performing leader.   He has now transferred those strategies into working with CEO's, senior executives, coaches and leaders from some of the world's leading companies including Nestle, P&G, Standard Chartered, JP Morgan, AIG, Boyden and Nike. Born in New Zealand, Craig has 25 successful years of experience leading, managing, coaching and providing sport science around the globe.   As an elite athlete he competed at the Hawaii Ironman, four World Triathlon Championships and continues to play competitive golf. A hip replacement and second pacemaker, at the age of 30, meant a full-time shift to focusing on being a high performance leader, CEO and National Head Coach.  He has coached and managed 3x Olympians, 10x World Championship athletes, 21x national champions and a 3x Ironman Japan Champion. He has worked with world leaders such as the Dalai Lama, Mind and Life Institute, WTA Tennis, IRONMAN Triathlon, United World College and over 100 Olympians and World Champions. Living in 5 countries. In this interview Lisa and Craig do a deep dive into avoiding burnout and managing your perfromance over the long haul. About top leadership and how to manage your health and mental wellbeing in order to be the best you can be.   You can find out more about Craig at www.nrg2perform.com and about Craigs speaking services at www.craigjohnsspeaker.com    We would like to thank our sponsors for this show: www.vielight.com Makers of Photobiomodulation devices that stimulate the brains mitocondria, the power houses of your brains energy, through infrared light to optimise your brain function. To get 10% off your order use the code: TAMATI at https://www.vielight.com For more information on Lisa Tamati's programs, books and documentaries please visit www.lisatamati.com For Lisa's online run training coaching go to https://www.lisatamati.com/page/runni... Join hundreds of athletes from all over the world and all levels smashing their running goals while staying healthy in mind and body. 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She absolutely refused to accept the words of the medical fraternity and instead decided that she was going to get her mother back or die trying. This book tells of the horrors, despair, hope, love, and incredible experiences and insights of that journey. It shares the difficulties of going against a medical system that has major problems and limitations. Amongst the darkest times were moments of great laughter and joy. Relentless will not only take the reader on a journey from despair to hope and joy, but it also provides information on the treatments used, expert advice and key principles to overcoming obstacles and winning in all of life's challenges. It will inspire and guide anyone who wants to achieve their goals in life, overcome massive obstacles or limiting beliefs. It's for those who are facing terrible odds, for those who can't see light at the end of the tunnel. It's about courage, self-belief, and mental toughness. And it's also about vulnerability... it's real, raw, and genuine. This is not just a story about the love and dedication between a mother and a daughter. It is about beating the odds, never giving up hope, doing whatever it takes, and what it means to go 'all in'. Isobel's miraculous recovery is a true tale of what can be accomplished when love is the motivating factor and when being relentless is the only option. Here's What NY Times Best Selling author and Nobel Prize Winner Author says of The Book: "There is nothing more powerful than overcoming physical illness when doctors don't have answers and the odds are stacked against you. This is a fiercely inspiring journey of a mother and daughter that never give up. It's a powerful example for all of us." —Dr. Bill Andrews, Nobel Prize Winner, author of Curing Aging and Telomere Lengthening. "A hero is someone that refuses to let anything stand in her way, and Lisa Tamati is such an individual. Faced with the insurmountable challenge of bringing her ailing mother back to health, Lisa harnessed a deeper strength to overcome impossible odds. Her story is gritty, genuine and raw, but ultimately uplifting and endearing. If you want to harness the power of hope and conviction to overcome the obstacles in your life, Lisa's inspiring story will show you the path." —Dean Karnazes, New York Times best selling author and Extreme Endurance Athlete.   Transcript of the Podcast: Speaker 1: (00:01) Welcome to pushing the limits, the show that helps you reach your full potential with your host, Lisa Tamati, brought to you by LisaTamati.com. Speaker 2: (00:11) Hi everyone and welcome to pushing the limits today. I have a fantastic episode with the amazing Craig Johns now Craig Johns is originally from my hometown from Taranaki, but living now in Canberra, in Australia. Now. Craig is the CEO and founder of energy to perform. He's a CEO himself. Uh, he has a background in 25 years global experience working in the sport health, mind, education and hospitality industries and he loves to help him become high performing leaders. He's also coached at the elite level Olympians, triathletes, world champion athletes, um, across a number of areas. And he is really at the top of his game as far as, uh, human performance. And I was really privileged to be on his show last weekend. He's agreed to become, come onto my show this week. So you're in for a really interesting session. If you want to know about being a high performance leader. Speaker 2: (01:07) If you want to know about high performance and sport, then this is the man you need to listen to. Um, just before I hand over to Craig now, just want to remind you my book relentless is now available and still seeing now copies. So if you hop over to relentlessbook.lisatamati.com you can order there and you can order audio books, eBooks, Kindle, Amazon, you name it, all the options are there for you to see, uh, to, to purchase that book. Um, I had the privilege of having a wonderful online book launch just a couple of nights ago and we're going to be doing, uh, a weekly one of these. So if you want to join me on one of those sessions or live session with me talking about the book, of course my mum will also be there. Um, then please reach out to me and I'd love to let you know when the next one is happening. Um, you can reach out to me at Lisa, at lisatamati.com and if you enjoy the show, please don't forget to rate and review this podcast. It really, really helps us get more exposure and we have some brilliant people sharing their incredible knowledge. Right. Without further ado, over to Craig Johns . Speaker 2: (02:19) Well, how everyone Lisa Tamati here at pushing the limits. It's fantastic to have you with me again. I hope you guys are all staying safe out there as best as you can in this crazy time. Yeah, I'm sitting today with the lovely Craig John's from Canberra and Craig is the CEO and founder of energy, uh, the energy to perform. So welcome to the show, Craig. Thanks for coming on board. No, Lisa, it's great to be on your show after we had a great interview the other day. Yeah, it was fantastic. So I had the privilege of being on Craig show as well. Um, active CEO, if anyone wants to go and check that out. Active CEO. Now, Craig, can you give us a little bit of background about your life and your story and what you do these Speaker 3: (03:00) days? Yeah, so I grew up in Taranaki as well. So from the same region, grew up on a farm, you know, a families were pretty simple. Yeah. And dad, you know, worked on a farm since he was 14 years old. He, it went through kind of the school of hard knocks and it was around our pretty rough crowd. And the teachers would say to him, look, you know, you're not going to make it in life. And when he was 14, him and his mate, they like to mess and like pee and light eating their lunch. And so they went to the principal and say, look, you know, we're wasting your time, us being here and you're wasting our time. So how about we build the furniture for your school? And so they're great to it. So they get access to the woodwork room and middleweight room and started building furniture. Speaker 3: (03:47) And then at the age of 14 he lifts school, went farming and retaught at 45. So I think the, uh, sort of prove them wrong in that sense. I'm a mum also came from a farming and hospitality background, her banana under a famous pub and pop Tia and you know, they, it's a lot of time spent on the farm and I think that grounding from both of them, very simple. I appreciate the small things. You work really hard and then the benefits will come and uh, from uh, an also from a sporting side. So I had a, had a fortunate too, both sides of the family have coaches, so dad's side where all around field hockey and my mom's side were all around cricket. So I had this great grounding from a sport point of view and also from coaching and leading people, which was just fantastic. Speaker 3: (04:42) I moved to Oakland to study, no sports science at university. I went on to do things around masters and biomechanics before hitting overseas. Uh, so my work in Auckland during that time was around sports science with some of the Olympic teams, some of the professional sports and was always coaching from the age of 15. So I love coaching swimming. So fly saving and triathlon in was working with some pretty amazing athletes during that time when I was 24 I got this call too. We've got a swimming coach opportunity for you in Taiwan. And that's kind, kinda like, well, I'm living at middle wide. I've got a beautiful view over the middle wide beach in Oakland and I've got these amazing opportunities. But I just thought, you know what, hi, I'm 24 years old, is this incredible world out there. I know nothing about Taiwan. All I think of as these, this big tall buildings. And my friend was like, no, it's really cool. There's like massive mountains. There's beautiful beaches. Amazing people. And so I thought, you know why not? So I packed up my bags at 24 and that started my worldwide adventure and have now lived in five places and wow. Currently based in Canberra. And you've done a of work in Speaker 2: (05:58) the triathalon space, is that correct? So tell us a little bit about some of the sort of work you've been involved with there. Speaker 3: (06:05) Okay. Yeah. So I've been a triathlon since I was nine years old, was my first triathlon. Wow. And so it was in my blood from quite an early space, and I naturally transitioned into triathlon where overseas I was coaching the Taiwan national team and went through to work at one of the Oh sort of most famous and beautiful splices and [inaudible] Peru kit called Tonya Perro, which is the only vice where they have, or mind how education, hospitality as an integrative approach. And so we're working with a lot of the world's top triathletes there. And then the last five and a half years I've been in Australia as a CEO of, the sport of triathlon in Canberra, and then working with the national team. So quite a, quite a big involvement. And it's just a beautiful sport with a great community. Speaker 2: (06:55) Yup. Okay. So what have you learned as a, as a person from being an athlete that you've taken over into your corporate world, if you like, into your business and you know what you're doing now? Speaker 3: (07:07) I think when you're very young and you're in sport, you learn some great basics for Speaker 2: (07:11) Mmm. Speaker 3: (07:12) Succeeding in life. So you have time management, discipline, hard work, um, overcoming adversity. You know, resilience. If we look at what's happening right now in the world around COVID-19 and coronavirus, Speaker 3: (07:25) it really sets you up to handle those situations well. You've experienced loss before, you've experienced hurt and pain before. You've experienced the unknown and I'm overwhelmed many times and you've always made a way out of it. Yeah. You just don't give up. You, yeah, it could be out on a, I know I bike ride and you're stuck three hours from home and you've run out of energy and battling a IDK in our headwind in it's five degrees in. You just don't want to go on any longer, but you stop playing mind games. You think positive thoughts and Speaker 3: (08:02) Nixon it and you just go from lampposts or lamppost or town to town. And then next minute you're like, Oh, I'm ready 20 minutes from home and you get home and it kind of feels a bit tiring and then you kind of wake up the next day and go, huh, what's next? Where's the big Nick's big talent? So I think those aspects are really good. And a sport like triathlon you, you wouldn't less than you loose. So you know, in a team sport you've got a 50% chance of winning every single time. And I was fortunate to be in a field hockey team where we never lost the game. The Stratford hockey team in the Taranaki league, they went something like 270 games straight without losing a game. So it's a record in New Zealand for any sport. And it was a phenomenal time to be part of that because I learned how to win end this awesome, great listens winning all the time. Speaker 3: (08:56) However, in triathlon there's also potentially a bit of side where you are learning so much because it is so difficult to win when you might have, you know, a couple of thousand people. On a start line or even if it's 50 on the start line, your chances of winning are not that high. No, you have to [inaudible] learn to deal with winning isn't everything, but what is the winning? So it may not be first across the line, but it might be okay, I've improved my swim or I was able to stay with that pack longer or I felt better on the run. So there's always ways that you can be winning, but it's might not just be that gold medal around your neck. Speaker 2: (09:36) Then Neva comes instantly. Th th that actually standing at the top of the podium as always a progression of years to get there. And many, many Speaker 3: (09:43) in the, in the, in the individual sports, Speaker 2: (09:45) um, you know, and lots of semifinalists and problems along the way and overcoming it. And then when you get to the top, you don't stay there either. So it's learning to manage that whole system and keep going. Um, so the biggest, listen, they would be, yeah, definitely. Keep, keep working towards your goals. Would that be right? Speaker 3: (10:03) Yeah, just small steps and appreciate the small things. I think in times like these where you need to have a bit of gratitude for yourself. Yes, you need a lot of gratitude for other people and acknowledge and sank and be kind to them. But a lot of people forget to do that with themselves. Worst predict. So it is so important to be, you know, looking everyday what is something I did really well today, well done. Yeah, that's great. Boy I'm off the couch this morning and I'm out running and no one else's. And, and there are lots of little things that you can just look after yourself a lot more effectively and you can do that in day to day life. And I think people, as much as this is going to be a very challenging time, I think people have the opportunity to learn, to appreciate the small things in life and be around their families and yeah, maybe Potter in the garden or whatever it may be and realize how important that is to success in life over a long period of time. Speaker 2: (11:01) Yeah. In taking the long view on this one now, Craig, and now you have a bit of a story yourself, um, a story of, of going home, you know, working so hard and burning out and um, coming into a bit of a drastic situation. Can you share that sort of background story, because you know, these are the stories that really teach us. Speaker 3: (11:20) Yeah, they are. I think from a very young age, I've always, you know, push the limits. For me it was, I'm trying to find that new space, um, where can I take my body? How much can it handle? And you know, I, it wasn't the most talented person out there, but I had, damn, I had some grit and hard work if they can be. And I think that comes from there from my mother. Yeah. I think we both the same there. And you know, a lot of people go, Whoa, you know, you did really well, you succeed into world champs. And I said, yeah, there was a lot of hard work in that. And you know, there are a lot more talented people, but I managed to get ahead of quite a few of them just because I was more determined and dominant approach to say, you know what, I'm going to prove people wrong. Speaker 3: (12:02) I'm going to prove science or medicine wrong and I want to see if I can get there. I love it. So I triggered hot problems and probably stress and burn out to a certain extent, not always burnout, but pushing that limit three key times in my life. So the first one was, who knows, uh, 15 and I'd come off a week long swim camp at Christmas time. I had done some things I've never done before. I had people stopping in the lines watching me do a set and which is absolutely flying and this felt amazing. And the next day was new year's day. I got out of bed at six o'clock in the morning when to go to the bathroom and find and went out for very long time. Um, my dad, who had just had a hip replacement was on crutches and sort of come along and tap me. Speaker 3: (12:54) And he thought I was, could have been dead because he, he couldn't been over at time and he said my eyes were in a state that he'd never seen before. And being knocked out for over five minutes is, um, yeah, fairly scary for a lot of people. Hmm. You know, that opportunity. I spent some time in intensive care, uh, and, and word was spreading around the community that I'd had heart attacks and all sorts of things that happened to me. Um, and it took a little while for, um, the cardiologist to try and make sense of what was going on at that time. And they initially, he said, look, you know, you have to give up sport. That's it. Your resting heart rate is too low. Um, it's, it's still 32 right now and I get down to 24 at night. My next spot right is still over 210. Wow. And I've always had an extremely low blood pressure of 90, over 60. Yeah. So all those things with their, and if I stressed too much, there was a recipe for disaster in a way. Speaker 3: (13:58) so they, but they couldn't find an actual reason to why I was having these heart problems at that time. And while I was really struggling. And so in the end, they just say, look, you can go back to sport, but you need to monitor and listen to yourselves. And I made two New Zealand teams within a year, um, and, and obviously had a very successful career after that. The second time I did it was I was working in Taiwan. I was qualified for world half iron man champ. So I was pushing the limit about six weeks out from the event. We had a big period of work where I'll be working around 60 hours a week plus those training 30 hours a week. Um, and just, I mean I was always some to try and find where is that balance on the high performance edge and I just pushed it too far. Speaker 3: (14:46) And so I had the same thing happen there, not to the, I wasn't feinting, uh, so much because I had a pacemaker and by then it was stopping me from doing that. Ah, so that was the second time. And then the third time I in Thailand, I was working, uh, 70 to 80 hours a week. Loved every single minute of what I was doing. I was worth 302 days straight. Yup. And woke up and did the big find to gain and um, you know, obviously this time I'm married and my wife's freaking out. She, I had never been in a hospital apart from being born pretty much. And you know, this took a big toll on her and I spent quite a bit of time in hospital again and Thailand and was during that time I realized that wasn't right about me anymore. And it was more too, you know what? Speaker 3: (15:37) Hey look, yeah, my heart's struggling a bit here and I'm not feeling well, but you know what, I'll, I've got the resilience, I'll bounce back from it. Right. You do it all the time and training, you know, you work hard, you smash yourself to bits it and you'd get a better recovery and your bounce back and away you go again pretty quick. But in this instance there was a lot more to it and I could see the effects on the staff. You know, we had 500 stops, so you could see how that affected them and especially my wife. And at that point I was like, you know what, I need to change. I'm, I put on 14kgs, I'd stopped exercising. Aye wasn't eating well even though I was at the healthiest place in the world. Mmm. And I was only getting four to five hours sleep a night. Speaker 3: (16:17) So I wasn't allowing my body to, to recover. Right. So I wasn't giving it a chance whatsoever. And what was really, and, and, and obviously at that time I decided the term breaking the CEO came up for me at that time, breaking the CEO code and [inaudible] that concept is now sort of really developed out in working with CEO's and executives around that and also building out programs for corporates. Exits are as well. So that's where that came from. But one of the real interesting things is when you're in athletes, you base everything. Everything's based around recovery. Yes. You've got the hard work. It's based around recovery because that's when the gains happen. That's when the high performance gains actually occur. And you have really strong trees. So when you push the limit in training or at a rice, your body tells you, you know, your times aren't as good. Speaker 3: (17:15) Your heart rate might be up, your sleep patterns go off. Um, appetite can change. And so there's a lot of really strong triggers that you're aware of. And generally you're recording a lot of data, so you, or you've got a coach that can see things as well when you're in the working world, [inaudible] have that. It's not a physical fatigue unless you're in certain [inaudible] industries. Yeah. So it's a real psychological fatigue. And unless there's a catastrophic event, yeah. Don't realize what's happening. So, excuse me to interrupt. But when you're an athlete, you only value breaking yourself physically. Speaker 2: (17:50) So you think any mental stress, it's just like, Oh, you know, grit. You haven't run 200 cases today. You know, like it's not that bad. You underestimate how much that they can put on the actual your system when your brain is stressed and when you're, when you're pushing the limits. Mean to me it takes a lot of energy. I mean, 20% of our energy goes just into our brain. 20% of our calories, for example. Yeah. Which is, you know, and part of it. So what's happening when you're in psychological fatigue or in your work spaces, the change in fatigue and energy levels is so gradual and our bodies so clever at adapting, you don't understand what's going on, you don't feel it. And it keeps dropping and dropping and dropping and dropping until it's too late. You don't realize it. And generally it's either you take a couple of days off or you go on a planned holiday and you get sick quite often. Speaker 2: (18:45) Well, you get to a point where I did where I had just worked at 302 days straight, full on 100% the whole time there was, it was go, go, you know, 24 seven never stopped thinking and the body does soon. You know what, okay, I'm going to have to put the brakes on here. I'm going to put the handbrake on it and we're going to hit real hard and you're probably going to hit a lamppost at the same time. And yeah, that's what happened. [inaudible] it a big lesson. The body is a very clever thing when it, you know, even in the, in the athletic world like, um, when you're running specific boat, you know, when I ran through New Zealand, my body was like shattering my body down in your mind is so strong that you pushed through the pain and you carry on and then my body actually pick up, carry on till the end of it run. Speaker 2: (19:32) But I paid the price for the next, but he is, well actually I'm still lost if I'm honest. I mean I think cause she pushed through those, you pushed through that, that survival limit. Okay. And you do do damage. It reminds me of a really funny story. Um, I was racing autumn in Austria back in 2005, so would have been my first right man. Oh uh, yeah. First Imam. So week before I had, um, Oh go, this is going in my head, uh, not boil. Um, and then fiction, uh, [inaudible] on my head anyway, so I had, I had a, had a medical problem and yeah. Um, so from that they said, Oh look, you know, you may not be able to race. And so during the rice, like I felt good beforehand and I said, okay, look, yep, you've got the clearance, go for it. And I felt amazing. I swam really well up with the front packs out onto the bike and feeling good. Got 50 K, and then I just started vomiting from 50 K right through to the a hundred into the 190 K ride. And I'm sitting here going, I don't know how I'm going to get through this rice if I can't get food. [inaudible] Speaker 3: (20:46) got onto the felt good, Speaker 3: (20:48) you know, I felt pretty crappy near the end of the bike and then got on the run and felt good for the first 10 K and going along nicely. And then I'm like sitting there going, I need to eat and I need to drink because I'm kidding. Anything down all day, you know, we're a six, seven hours into the rice by them. And I remember, I remember sitting down at the 21K Mark it was a loop, a double loop course. You come back past the finish line a couple of times and I could hear on the loudspeaker, a friend of mine ran out to sink being called out and saying, I went to our champion for today, ran out two sinks about to cross the line. And so I remember that and that's the last thing I remember. And, and I woke up in the medical tent [inaudible] I was like, how do I do? And they're like, what do you mean? I said, where did I finish? And they're like, Oh, we found you at the 22 K Mark or running down the wrong road and we were trying to stop you. And you're like, no, leave me. I'm about to catch the widow completely out of it. Just lost it. You know, body wanted to keep going. But I had, isn't it amazing how strong the mind is though, that you can push yourself to almost killing yourself? Yeah. Yup, yup. [inaudible] Speaker 3: (22:02) and like you, you know, through all this, these, you know, the cycle if you like, of of going had crashing, growing, had crashing, going hog crashing. It just started to learn something that you've actually like used today and you are in your world today. Okay. Yeah. So when, so when I was sitting there and I talked about, you know, being in that position, hospital, yeah. A couple of years ago and okay, I realized I needed to break the CEO code. And the big thing for me was I have all this amazing knowledge and lessons learned from the athlete world, from coaching, from being a sports science in that high performance space. And I was using none of it, none of it. And here's a lesson for everyone in life. There are four basic fundamentals to performance. Anyone, no matter what you do, it's exercise, nutrition, freeing your mind and recovering with purpose. Speaker 3: (22:57) Now all of those have effects on your ability to perform mentally, physically, emotionally. Okay. [inaudible] they have huge effects on things like your mood on your ability, your cognitive function, your ability to, to actually process information [inaudible] okay. Don't have those imbalance, then you will limit your performance potential. So I was, look at it this way, your talent sits, your minimum performance ceiling, your exercise, your nutrition, you're freeing your mind and you're covering with purpose determines how high you can lift the ceiling. All right? So that is what controls that your talent controls just your minimum height. So you could be the most talented person in the world, but if you don't look after yourself, you're not going to get anywhere near your potential. Hmm. And so obviously we say that quite often they get lazy and know everything's too easy for them when they're younger. And then finally, some people who actually really look after themselves come through and Sean above them, and that works in whatever space it is, whether it be a musician or a speaker, a coach, an athlete, a parents, whatever it may be, that will determine it. Speaker 3: (24:16) And then the second aspect is, uh, that are really thrived on and tested and tried many times is paradise nation and of the term that CEO paradise relation. Now puritization initially comes from cataloging in the library system and it was cataloging on periods of time. Then the sporting world took it, especially in endurance and used it to paradise. There they work in stress loads and balance it with recovery periods so that they can get jumps in performance over time. So as they recovered, their performance would go to a high level. I would stress it, they dropped down their performance, but then when they recovered it would go higher again. So I applied that to work. Um, and as we talked about before, you don't recognize the fatigue that's going on and you push and push and push. And because it's the stimulus is that the change is so small and it's a catastrophic event, then you don't, you, your body is adapting to it. [inaudible] Speaker 3: (25:12) so important to actually plan the recovery and, and that can be on a daily basis, weekly, monthly, yearly or career basis. Now, the Korea one is fascinating because I've only met two people so far who do this extremely well. One is Anne gripper, who used to be CEO of triathlon Australia and she's now working at new South Wales office of sport as their CEO. And she is into a fourth cycle of five years in a job, one year off, five years on, one year off. And she planned that, you know, uh, what are we looking at about seven, eight, nine years ago now? Nearly 20 years ago. Yeah. Each of her breaks, she's done something completely different. Yeah. And some might think of it as a sabbatical, but no, this is actually planned. It's not seven or more years. It's, it's every or five years on, one year off. Speaker 3: (26:03) And so she cycled the world for one of them. She set up a philanthropy, uh, in another one and the other one, she has gone off and done her masters at one of the prestigious Mmm postgraduate schools in Switzerland for school, the lighting. So I'm looking forward to what's next. I don't know. I haven't actually spoken to her. What's next? The other one is Del Beaumont. Del Bowman is a bit of a legend in the personal development and kind of marketing spice and has a huge following in Australia and around the world. And he's been working for 17 years and kind of that personal development space for the last 10 years. He works two months on, one month off. Wow. Three months on, one month off. And so during that one month off, he generally goes to a new country around the world. He takes his, his wife has young children and he's been, I think he's over a hundred countries now. Speaker 3: (26:58) He's been to, and so that's the approach he's taken now. He has a, he's built a team behind him. He's put trust in them. I'm sure he will really hard during the two months, but then he has a full one month off where it's completely off work. Yeah. Extremely good. Uh, if we took a look at it from a year point of view, most people will go, all right, I've got four weeks holiday. I'll take them off inside the Southern hemisphere. They'll take them off for Christmas and they'll spend time with the children. I've a summer, a Northern hemisphere would obviously be July, August period. So what they do is they work 11 months and then they just have this recovery there. So it's a long time to be staying on and performing at a high level. Exactly. Yeah. And so what's more effective is if, how do we look at, can we put things in every three months or every four months and actually scheduling those [inaudible] your diaries before the start of the year, like an athlete would. Speaker 3: (27:52) They plan the recovery periods at Welland avant, sometimes up to four years if they're into an Olympic cycle. [inaudible] and you sit there with your family and you plan that so that you're both offered the same time, if that's what you want to do. If you're married, if you're not, then obviously you just need to look after yourself. It's a bit easier. Um, but as you plan that time away from the work that you're doing away from the passion that you're in, get out in night, go see some new places, change your environment and allow that mind to refresh and the body to recover and that as well. Uh, and then obviously we can type that down to even into a WIC space where, how do we cycle those periods? What has been fascinating through the research with Don [inaudible] pretty much in, in endurance athletes and also in anything that's done in business, it works out to be about a three to one work to rest ratio. Speaker 3: (28:43) Yeah, three, two, one. So say an athlete will generally go three weeks on one week off, three weeks on, one week off. Now if sometimes they may do a longer period up to five or six weeks and then, but then they need a longer recovery period to balance that back. But it's still equal somewhere around three to one, unless they're doing something really extreme. And in the, it might need to be a lot more recovery in the working world. They do stuff, uh, say on a daily basis where they look at how long can a, a high performer achieve high levels of performance and productivity over period of time. Now there's some that say 52 minutes, um, of work at that level and before they start to lose the, the performance and lose the productivity and it takes about 70 minutes to get that back. Speaker 3: (29:33) There are others who say 45 minutes, 15 but most of the studies are still based around a three to one where it's risk ratio. So it's a great place to stop. Now if you go through what a lot of CEOs and a lot of businesses and a lot of families are going through right now, which is a massive stress load with dealing with [inaudible], you actually go into needs more recovery in there. Yup. Or a longer piece of recovery coming up. Now we're pretty much going to be forced to doing that because you're working from home. Yup. There might be some stresses, yes. But you're pretty much going to be forced to do that, which will be really good for you. Really good for you to take that time out to recover [inaudible] and we're using it to recover, right? Yeah. Yeah. And so the key message is here that it's all around proactively planning recovery so you can sustain high levels of performance and productivity all the time. Speaker 3: (30:27) And that's what I've been able to do since then. I don't drink coffee, I don't have sugar, I don't um, touch soft drinks. I don't have any caffeine whatsoever. I can't cause my heart anyway, but I have consistent energy all day. I don't get to a point where I fall over. I don't get to a point where I feel it declining. If that happens. It's extremely rare because I plan my recovery, I've got my exercise, nutrition, freeing my mind and recovering with purpose embedded every single day. And if I do need to do a period of how to work, then I will, I will plan a longer period of recovery in there. So I will look at it and go, okay, this project is going to take quite a bit of time. So I know I need to have some recovery in it. Yeah. At the moment, I am having to stop pretty early in the morning because of dealing with some stuff with covert 19 from a local, national, international level in multiple areas. Speaker 3: (31:21) So I have to start at five Oh six in the morning and I might not finish till nine at night, but I'll go out in the middle of the day and I go for a two three hour bike ride and have some recovery. So I'm in the middle of the dice. So I ensure that I can perform at a high level. Yeah. And it's, it's, it's, it's really about planning in doing the very basic things. Well, you sleep, you know, when you were doing in Taiwan and you hit that four to five hours a night's sleep, it's a disaster. Well, your hormones now, when do you put on my, you know, I don't order those sort of things. Uh, really those sort of things are really crucial. But their sleep, the hydration, the nutrition in the meantime breaks. If we all would agree on that and they exercise. Oh, absolutely. No, we are, we're singing from the same song shake Theo thing. Yeah. And it's certainly important. I like it. There's been a whole thing of the last sort of 10 years around that the hype before or that the people can go without slave and they'd be performing a massively. Now there's something trying to me what the statistic is. Speaker 3: (32:27) Oh yeah. I think it's something like 7%. It may even be less than that of people that can survive, that can function at the highest level off around five to six hours. Yeah, it's very few, Speaker 2: (32:40) but most people, it's around eight to nine hours. And every time you reduce that, like say if you reduce it by half an hour, you probably won't notice it too much because your body's adapting to it. But it does have quite a big effect [inaudible] on your IQ. Obviously your intelligence, your emotional intelligence, as you said, your hormones, which you fix, uh, things such as energy to fix, such as things as your mood. It affects your ability to cope under pressure. Alright. Really important things that you need to have firing in all cylinders. So the people that are thrived, Oh, sorry. Yeah. People that are thriving at the moment rather than just surviving the coven 19 and coronavirus people that actually [inaudible] sitting quite healthy and are able to make decisions rationally. I will too go through thought processes and um, ensure that they have the cognitive function, deal with things effectively. Speaker 2: (33:37) Those that have come into it a little tired that don't, don't have a healthy body are the ones that are struggling the most. Yeah, yup. Mean to the end physically and [inaudible] sleep deprivation one, um, that really over time leads to cognitive decline, you know, which I'm, you know, specialized in learning about brain rehabilitation and, and the correlation between Alzheimer's and dementia and lack of sleep over many years is it's a very strong one. Mmm. So for that reason alone, you know, you need to, if you want to have a brain that is performing into, you know, like the stats already in your thirties and your forties, you know, this is already a map to climb. Okay. And you, you know, optimizing every area of your life so that you can cope. What's the [inaudible] you know, I like, I've got a [inaudible] well it shouldn't be healthy fit. [inaudible] and I can face this courses with a beta lot of energy [inaudible] to focus on, you know, like I've got more to, to, to more resilience. Speaker 2: (34:47) And at the moment we're all going a little bit, well some of us are going and sign the hat, um, and we have to for this short period of time and that's okay. As long as we're the planning and as soon as this one's down that you've got some recovery in there somewhere. Otherwise you will. Hello. I mean, I know this, like with my mum, I'm having that aneurism and you know, the book that I've just [inaudible] for that relentless, the first three years were seven days a week, you know, operating two companies working with her all day and not a day off. Never a day off. Yeah. Oh, you know, in the first six months it was round the clock and there was hardly any time for sleep. It was, yeah, four to five hours of sleep. And you know, I paid, I paid a massive price, but I had to, to survive. And now I have to, my body isn't quite as as it should be. Speaker 3: (35:38) And I have to rebuild those resources again. And that is an extreme, you know, situations that you had to, you know, and we know as athletes how to do that for a period of time. The thing is [inaudible] don't, don't mistake mental toughness with, you know, you're, you're, you're still a human, you're not Bulletproof. I would like to think we are as athletes, we're not, and we will have limitations and we need to respect their bodies and gives them time to come back sooner or later and hopefully sooner. Mmm. So Craig, I now need to ramp up shortly and I know that you've got lots of things to get onward. So the periodization, the three two one is a really important factor adhering to the basics. Uh, got you. What else did you like? What would ask, would you like to leave as parting words for people to think about and we can they find you and reach out to you if they wanna work with you? Speaker 3: (36:36) Yeah. Brilliant. I think one of the best [inaudible] the most important things is here is it. It's about the basics. You know, if we look at the most effective sports teams in the world are most effective athletes, they focused a lot on the basics and getting them right. What we're seeing a lot now in say the sporting world as we're seeing a lot of people going for the shiny things, they want to mimic the plays that the all blacks do. They want to be trying to do the same sessions as and the Olympic. A runner. Yeah, Stitcher, and so they want to go for the shiny things first. It is or about the basics and that's the same thing when it comes to looking after your body. [inaudible] no matter whether you're a mum or your a CEO or you're someone going to work or you look after the [inaudible], the [inaudible], the community bridge club. Speaker 3: (37:23) It's about the bicycles. If you want to [inaudible] high performing person, I think that's really, really important. [inaudible] the second thing is that you need to obviously make sure that you're preparing to perform every day. If we look at athletes, singers, dances, songwriters, artists in what people would term is the performing areas. Um, and what they don't realize everything is performing. But I would consider those as performance ones. They spend over 95% of their time training, preparing, planning, and less than 5% of their time actually competing. Now when it comes to the business world, corporate world, it's the complete opposite. So they actually spend more than around 95% of their time actually competing. Yeah. And very little time planning, preparing training to be better, to improve their performance and to get the best out of their team. So I have the second phase of breaking the CEO code is performance is the three P's of leadership performance touched on CEO paradise [inaudible]. Speaker 3: (38:31) The second one is CUI prisons. Now CEO prisons is around, how do you turn up? Oh, sorry. How do you show up and turn it up? So it is how do you prepare for a meeting or an interaction or for a project? Cause most people just roll in. Yeah. We see quite often in the corporate world where people will go back to back to back meetings. Um, and even if they don't, they'll just rock into a meeting. They'll pull out their diary and go, Oh, we're talking about this today. Can someone brief me what's happening? Yeah, absolutely. Zero preparation. There's no preparation to right. Sometimes. Ah, yeah. And we all get caught in it sometimes, but wouldn't it be more effective if you actually plan for it? You thought about what you were going to say and what impact you are going to have on people. Uh, and, and you speak. So generally as a speaker, one of the key things you focus on before you get on stages, you visualize how you want the audience to react and feel afterwards. How do you want them to react and fill afterwards? So [inaudible] you've got to bring the performance, bring the energy, and you've got to evoke the emotions that are required. So that's in any meeting, in any discussion, any sales. Yeah. Any relationship that's so important. Evoke the new bright emotions, not any emotion. The right emotion. Speaker 3: (39:56) Okay. And then once you evoke the emotions, you then need to make sure that you leave them with a message and something to do next. So what, what is the action that is going to occur? So prisons is all about your nonverbal communication. It's around your communication as well. Content you are going to say. So go back to nonverbal. It's around your body language. It's the way you bring your energy to the room. Mmm. [inaudible] the most important aspect because people feed a lot more off the nonverbals than they do the verbals. So we actually react. And so 97% of the message comes from the nonverbals, not the actual verbal content. Well, not what you're saying. Yep. That's how you say it. Yep. And how you deliver it. Yeah. Yeah. So that prison is so important. So a lot of the time we start, we talk with our, with the say CEOs executives to go, alright, let's cut yours, schedule your meetings in half. Speaker 3: (40:53) And it freaks them out. And we know we have to get the pay on the to do it and it teaches him to delegate the low and medium priorities to other people to look after. And so they just focus on the high priorities. And this is so important right now during covert 19 and coronavirus. You need to identify what are the high priorities and then determine what is going to have the greatest impact with the least amount of effort. And you move the medium and low, um, priorities and delegate them and empower your staff to look after those and given some responsibility. Don't take all the responsibility yourself. Hmm. So that's a really powerful thing right now. Mmm [inaudible] then obviously once we've reduced the number of meetings, we, we then go, okay, we need to put some time in beforehand. So you plan not just understand the content and maybe your outcome, but how you're going to deliver. Speaker 3: (41:47) And then after the meeting you need to make sure you've got a debrief and some time to recover because we need to make sure that you're performing at three, two, one work to rest ratio throughout the day. [inaudible] come four or five o'clock when you might need to be making some really key decisions. You still have the energy, you still able to perform [inaudible] best to bring the best out of the people you've got. So powerful. The third phase is CEO performance and CEO performance is around developing high performing habits and high-performing habits. Uh, [inaudible] around making sure that you have your and your [inaudible] mental state that you're removing any obstacles, any, uh, things that are cluttering your mind, anything that is preventing you from being your best. So it does integrate. So that first one, that first phase of your foundations of exercise, nutrition fraying and modern recovery does include those. Speaker 3: (42:45) But there are also other things. It's around ensuring that you don't contaminate the home space with workspace. Yeah. This is really, really important right now I working at home. So maybe I think for this, uh, I would just go into what's really important right now for those that haven't worked at home before. You need to set some boundaries, create a space where you do work only and only work. Do we need to make sure that it's, you can keep the children away if possible, unless they're really young. You may need to adjust this, that drinks can't be spilled, etc. That distractions are put to the side. You need to make sure that when you step out of that room, you go from being in work. So now being in home life, yup. Or release life, you put the new hat on, you need to make sure when you get up in the morning, you keep your routine as consistent as possible to what you would do from a normal working day. Speaker 3: (43:41) Keep that routine because then your body's not reacting to stuff. Your body reacts when it's [inaudible] doesn't, it's unfamiliar. Yeah. It would be proactive. So get up, have a shower hugely out of your pajamas. Cause I'm sure there's a lot of you that are sitting in your pajamas and your boxer shorts, et cetera right now or your underwear doing your work at home. No, you've got to step out and get into the right mental state and you know, I have breakfast stopped the day as you would [inaudible] then you need to make sure that you've actually got planned time in there to step out and get some exercise, recharge the batteries, clear them on freedom mind, um, and, and have a break from things cause it's so easy to get caught up, especially when you're at home. And for those that are normally used to being in a really busy office with lots of calls and emails going on, now I'm going to find you actually probably not this week, but in the next couple of weeks you'll find you have a lot more time for yourself and you'd be able to get in the zone and standard zone a lot longer. Speaker 3: (44:42) So when you're in that space, it is still important because if you want great performance throughout the whole day, through the whole week, through over the next few months, [inaudible] got to proactively put in the recovery now otherwise you will struggle later on. Yup. Mmm. And that is so important. Now there might be some if you're like, um, let's see how, so if, if you've heard of the five love languages. No. So there are Gary Chapman, check it out. [inaudible] fascinating, fascinating stuff. And it talks about one of the five love languages and how if you can understand what your love languages and you understand what someone else's is and then you know how to work with them. So my love language is acts of service. So I like it when people do things and I do things, that's my love language. Whereas my wife is physical touch and quality time, so she likes to be close to me. Speaker 3: (45:33) We don't need to speak, don't need to talk much. And she dislikes to be close to me. So there might be an instance where say [inaudible] because they might be a bit more work to do right now is I might go out in the lounge, but we know clearly that I'm still working. We're, we're aware of that if we want to. And so it can be close to each other. If we want to have a discussion, I close the laptop, take it back, put it in the office, and then we sit down and have our discussion and talk through things or discuss whatever we want to. That's a good tip for me actually. Cause I'm, yeah. Tend to just be 24, seven hovering around the computer and sometimes the husband, it doesn't get detention in dates when he needs it. Yeah, because you were always, that delineation is really, really, yup. Speaker 3: (46:19) And relationships are absolutely number one priority. It's so easy for us to brush them off to the side and get busy with work in the end. The people that are always going to be there when things are struggling, uh, when, when times are tough, when overwhelmed sitting are your family and your friends. And so if you [inaudible] [inaudible] them right anytime of the year, you can do it for a little bit. But if you do it over a long period of time, that relationship will deteriorate. So make sure if you've got healthy relationships, you have a healthy life and you have healthy work, um, and productivity and performance. Excellent. All right. It gives it a nice wrap I think for that. Perfect. Wrap up. So Craig, we can people reach out to you. I know you have a whole bunch of things that you offer in courses and a work that you do with [inaudible] CEO isn't so on as a speaker is a drug. Speaker 3: (47:10) Can you just give us where they can find you and we can put that in the show notes? So, yeah. Brilliant. So we have WW dot [inaudible] uh, J, the number two, the form.com and that's where we have everything around coaching these details there. On the speaking that I do workshops, I have yet to see your on there. And also a range of videos that I'm doing at the moment. So at the moment I'm doing a daily video [inaudible]. It brings the breaking the CEO code principles and relates them directly to coven 19 and coronavirus. So there's a three to seven minute video coming out every day you can get on social media, YouTube, um, and also on the website and that's around leadership, wellbeing and performance in the business space and for home life in that as well. So there's some great opportunities there. I also have a brand new website, which is still in construction, but [inaudible] you can view it at the moment. Speaker 3: (48:05) And that is Craig, John, speaker.com. So Craig, John speaker.com and that just focuses more around speaking that I do an emceeing as well. Sorry. [inaudible] yeah, great. So you can grab me on LinkedIn. Ah, always got stuff happening every day on LinkedIn, Facebook and Instagram and Twitter sort of not so much do stuff there, but my main focus is around LinkedIn, Facebook, Instagram. Fantastic. Craig, thank you so much for your insights, your wisdom, your knowledge today and sharing it in this difficult time. I know that some of these practical w tips and in life tips and help and support, um, well be well received and are going to help people during this crisis. And you know, right now more than anything, I think that the work that you do and what we do as well as is very passionate and very relevant to today's crisis and keeping people safe and healthy, uh, immediately healthy to get through this, this horrible crisis that we're all facing. [inaudible] Speaker 3: (49:04) Craig, thank you very much for your time and your energy today and thanks for having me on your show. I really appreciate that. Yeah, we'll be, um, anything else you want to say? We've got Lisa, thank you very much. It's absolute pleasure. A lot of speaking and connecting with you. Bring out some really interesting questions and some great, uh, topics to discuss and really there to help people, you know, it's pushing the boundaries to go, you know, what, let's do things better or even different to what we'd done before because it's so important that we have more people out there being high performing leaders and high performing people who are having are really positive and calming and effective influence on the people around them right now. So thank you very much. Thanks, Craig. Speaker 1: (49:48) That's it this week for pushing the limits. Be sure to write, review, and share with your friends and head over and visit Lisa and her team at lisatamati.com.  

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It's rainy season for those down South. So Craig muses on rainy days, gear and ideas for rainy weather. For those of us up north its a good primer for the upcoming rain, and with all this rain talk, let's all think of warmer sunnier days ahead. Get 24 Disaster Kit Checklists in the Tiny SURVIVAL Guide: On Amazon: https://amzn.to/35QwQJt - OR - Take 10% off Your Next Order of Survival Guides, Cards and Kits @ https://tinysurvival.com - Use CODE "SURVIVALSHOW10" at check out to save 10% on your entire order. See Much of the Gear Mentioned Here on Kit.co @ https://kit.co/UltimateSurvivalTips Join the discussion over at our NEW Facebook Group @ https://www.facebook.com/groups/529888441164294/ GET Guns, Gear and Gadgets @ Sportsman's Guide - Go to: https://ultimatesurvivaltips.com/guide Additional Resources - From David and Craig: Get Essential Wilderness Navigation HERE: https://amzn.to/2PL7YQx Live Training Classes@ Nature Reliance School: www.NatureReliance.org (Craig’s School) YouTube - Nature Reliance School(Craig’s Channel): https://www.youtube.com/user/naturereliance YouTube -Ultimate Survival Tips (David’s Channel): https://www.youtube.com/user/UltimateSurvivalTips MSK-1 Survival Knife System (David’s Sweet Knife): www.MSK1Knife.com Ultimate Survival Tips - Website: www.UltimateSurvivalTips.com Free Survival e-MAG (From Ultimate Survival Tips) BOOK: Essential Wilderness Navigation - By Craig: https://amzn.to/2PL7YQx --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/thesurvivalshow/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/thesurvivalshow/support

It's our last Episode before the Oscars! So Craig, David and Floss discuss a vast majority of the categories and all the films nominated and who might take the Golden Award. We'll return for a final episode of RTTO after the Oscars, Road to the Oscars: End of the Road. If you'd like to support us, the best way of doing so is by leaving us a 5 Star review on Apple Podcasts and if you can, become a [Paetreon supporter] (https://www.patreon.com/isitworthitpodcast)! The Graphic Design Team Toby Alexander & Kraig Archibald Social Media Team Mark Chiles, Floss Hafter-Smith, Jonny Wainman & Ranjeet Nanrah Audio Team Callum Molloy & Alex Robert Research Shivani Rayat This episode was produced and edited by Craig Fields Presented by Craig Fields, David Long & Floss Hafter-Smith. David & Craig would like to thank Cineworld Hemel Hempstead for their continued support! Keep looking out for our competitions that take place exclusively on our twitter page @filmisworthit

It's our last Episode before the Oscars! So Craig, David and Floss discuss a vast majority of the categories and all the films nominated and who might take the Golden Award. We'll return for a final episode of RTTO after the Oscars, Road to the Oscars: End of the Road. If you'd like to support us, the best way of doing so is by leaving us a 5 Star review on Apple Podcasts and if you can, become a [Paetreon supporter] (https://www.patreon.com/isitworthitpodcast)! The Graphic Design Team Toby Alexander & Kraig Archibald Social Media Team Mark Chiles, Floss Hafter-Smith, Jonny Wainman & Ranjeet Nanrah Audio Team Callum Molloy & Alex Robert Research Shivani Rayat This episode was produced and edited by Craig Fields Presented by Craig Fields, David Long & Floss Hafter-Smith. David & Craig would like to thank Cineworld Hemel Hempstead for their continued support! Keep looking out for our competitions that take place exclusively on our twitter page @filmisworthit

Dr. Craig Costello is a Senior Researcher in the Security and Cryptography group at Microsoft Research in Redmond, USA. Where his job is to keep what you want secret a secret - basically using some very complex mathematics. He is among a formidable group of cryptographers who’s life’s work is to protect the internet against adversarial code breakers (aka cryptanalysts), both those that exist today in our classical computing world, and those that will exist in a quantum computing future.Needless to say - he knows what he’s talking about when it comes to the security of you and your data in an online world.Craig is a Queenslander, and a listener to this very podcast - who reached out to me and told me that he might have some interesting things to talk about and he was not wrong.As far as I’m concerned, there’s two types of people - those who have been hacked, and those who haven’t been hacked yet.Unless you’re really careful, it will happen to you.But soon enough, as quantum computers come to wider usage - the passwords that you and I both use now, even the 64-character randomly generated ones, will be as easy to crack as running through the banner at an AFL match.Recently Google claimed that the Quantum computer they built was able to solve a problem in 200 seconds - a problem that the world’s currently fastest super computer would have taken 10,000 years to solve.So Craig and his team are working hard to stay ahead of this.Even if you’re the kind of person that uses Passw0rd1 as your password for everything - this chat is an important one because I feel it’s important to keep an eye on what developments are happening in the world of data security.And it’s not just your FB account. It’s your email, it’s your bank balance, your health records, your GPS data - and as we get more and more connected, it is more and more risky.So it’s important we know the risk.It’s not all fear - in Australia we drove cars without seat belts from 1897, and people were getting gruesomely injured and killed before we figured out Seat Belts were a good idea finally in 1970.So don’t worry. We figure it out eventually.But hopefully this chat with Craig will help you and me figure it out a little quicker.A note here - would you believe that when I recorded this, I’d done 297 episodes of this show, and had only lost three recordings - either due to battery failure of my recorder, a Hard Drive glitch or a software error.I thought I’d lost the whole first half of this chat - and even sent the corrupted file back to Craig to see if there was anyone at Microsoft that he know who could salvage the data on the file.No luck. I thought this podcast was going to be 32 minutes long.Until Andy Maher my epic producer somehow managed to salvage the file.So if occasionally there’s an odd chop in the cadence of the conversation - it’s because Andy had to slice out the unsalvageable data - but for the most part he resurrected this file from what was a zillion garbled ones and zeros.If you like what you hear - you can find Craig’s excellent Ted Talk online.Enjoy this conversation with Craig Costello. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Turns out that Utah, the home of the Legendarium, is the nerdiest place in America. To us, that just feels correct -- nerdery is the water in which we fish swim here. But the real question today is why? So Craig and Kenn brought in the big guns: Krissie Holifield, from the I Am Salt Lake podcast. Together they talk religion, drugs, geography, and grasp at any other straw they can to explain why Utah is the ultimate home for nerds. Check out the I Am Salt Lake podcast The Nerdiest State In America (TIME) Support the show on Patreon Join the conversation on Reddit Music: "The Seven Seas" courtesy of https://www.philter.no/

Welcome! Good morning, everybody. I was on with Mr. Jim Polito this morning.  I don't know if you've noticed, but I've started kind of a soft launch.   Well, it is that time so, here we go with Mr. Polito. For more tech tips, news, and updates visit - CraigPeterson.com ---  Related articles: Standing our Ground on Encryption - without it, we will lose all Privacy! Protect your Anonymity is all about Layers    ---  Automated Machine Generated Transcript:   Craig Peterson  Mama, this was a great interview this morning. I'm so happy. I was able to do this and share it. And I love when I get listener feedback. Of course, Craig Peterson here, and I was on with Mr. Polito this morning. We've covered three different topics and I went into some depth, you know, the you guys sometimes you have the most brilliant questions, right? I have this big problem of I've been doing too long and a little bit too deeply. And so I get these questions. So, Jim got a question or from a question from a listener via this whole VPN discussion that's been kind of ongoing for a while and that I did on Facebook here this last week. And man, he had a different angle I hadn't thought of before. Here we go with Jim Polito Jim Polito Sleeping in like the Dark Knight, right? In a nick of time to rescue us all our good friend and Tech Talk guru. Craig Peterson. Good morning, sir. Craig Peterson  Hey, good morning, Jim Polito Craig. We got to talk about surfing the web without leaving a trail or awake. I've got a question for you about VPN from a listener. I've got to bring up this first. I don't know if you heard earlier in the show. But somebody assumed my identity online. And is perpetrating a scam? Craig Peterson Yeah, I heard that. It happened to me too. Jim Polito  Yeah. Is that awful? And I mean, you know, we were raised a quarter a nearly a quarter of a million dollars last week for the Shriners hospitals for children in Springfield. And now somebody who's going around, they created a an online profile and their direct messaging people and saying, hey, contribute to the Shriners Use this link. And obviously it's a scammers link and it's disgusting. And we've got actually I got the attention of the number one social media person in the whole company is working on it, which is great. Maybe I'll get a blue check on Instagram out of this because I have a blue check on Twitter and Facebook. Maybe I'll get an Instagram blue check. What do you think? Craig Peterson  I got one as well. I had a guy who was saying he was sending out emails to bands to these small upstart bands trying to make some money right get out music business. And what he was doing is he was representing himself as me contacting these bands and saying that I was the guy at I heart media, who brings brings new bands on in order to give them some publicity and he's basically playing you remember the old game right a little pay yo la where you Me and I'll spin your record during my show. And so I was the guy for all of my heart media that we evaluate these new bands and whether or not they're worth airing. It's just amazing. But some of these bands, these guys, were smart enough to go to my website, find me and reach out to me. And so I went and I applied for blue check. I noticed this happened to a lot of people because I worked with a number of different media people, and they've had similar things happen to them and I said, Hey, I went straight to Facebook. I filled out their forums, I did the same thing for Twitter filled out the forums. I said, hey, there's a guy out there who's scamming artists and saying that I'm the guy at I Heart Radio that does all of this. And you know, a cursory glance is going to show I am kind of a media guy. Media. Yeah. And I never got a blue check out of it. So I You know, I don't know, maybe it's because I'm on the libertarian conservative scale. But I don't know. Jim Polito I got mine when I worked at Fox News. And so, you know, even though that's, you know, considered the conservative new news network, I didn't get it when I was doing this here. And I got it when I was on Fox. So I don't know we'll see. But it's terrible. And I've been spreading the word all morning and you know, people who know me know I really don't direct message that often. I rarely direct message even to friends. So it's not it's hopefully nobody gets sucked in by this scam. Craig Peterson  Let me add something to about direct messages. And that is nowadays the whole dm thing can be automated. There are bots that you can use the very cheap, very easy to use, that allow you to communicate with people via direct message, and so the some of these bad guys, that's exactly what they're doing. They're trying to assume an identity. Yeah, that's fairly popular that you find who's following that person. And then they try and dm those people. Yeah, it's, yeah, it's really bad. Yeah, Jim Polito I feel bad. Especially for the Shriners because they're doing everything they can to raise money and to help a lot of kids. And to have somebody try to cash in on that. It's just disgusting. You know, it's a special place in hell for you for doing that. So, I'll keep you posted on how this progresses. But let me ask you about VPN. Brian, who is a listener? He said I have a question for Craig Peterson. How will his solution the VPN impact a work from home VPN into my employer. So you were talking about creating a VPN button. He's already got one with his employer. How would having to VPN impact him? Craig Peterson What a great question. I love it. Jim Polito Yeah, it is.  Craig Peterson I hadn't really kind of thought of that before. Of course, he might have that problem. Here's what I've been doing, Jim, I haven't mentioned this on your show. But it's been kind of I'm to tee under the radar because I'm practicing if you will. But everyday last week, I did a Facebook Live on my page. And you can get to my Facebook page by going to Craig peterson.com slash Facebook. And I spent the week last week talking about VPN. So I almost every day last week I did a thing on VPN and this week, I am doing a whole week here on mobile security what you can do with your mobile device. And then Thursday this Thursday. And again, this has all been kind of under the radar. I should probably tell more people about it. But I'm going to have a special, absolutely free. 100%. Free, masterclass live on the PNO that people can join, you know, home users, small business, whatever it is okay, and I'm going to take questions, LIVE, I'm going to answer them. These things typically run an hour to an hour and a half long when I do them. So, yeah, I'll have to let them know. I'll send an email out to the people today and I'll send a text, let them know how to how to get on that feeling kind of under the radar VPN are not necessarily what you think they are. And I yell and scream at the radio when I hear these misleading ads for VPN. There, there are companies out there who will remain nameless, right? Now that is completely misrepresenting what they can do with their VPN services. And by the way, three of the top VPN services this week it was disclosed that they were all hacked and all of the private information was launched. Ok. So number one, Jim, AE and anyone else who wants to know more can go to my Facebook page again Craig Peterson com slash Facebook. So that's from my website it'll take you to my Facebook page. And once your because someone stole my slice Craig Peterson on Facebook if you can believe that, and I never got it back. Yeah, so Craig Peterson dot com slash Facebook and that will take to the right place and you can go back to you can look at those videos this week. We are talking about mobile threats for your mobile phones and Okay, and I got a lot of stuff, but it's specifically the answer to his question. If he's working from home, and you're using your business VPN to work from home, you should Do not use any other VPN at the same time. Okay, so you can, you can have to you can, but don't use them both at the same time. Jim Polito  Exactly right. Definitely fit for the business, right?  Craig Peterson Definitely fit for the business, right? Yeah, having one is good having to is not necessarily better. And when you're working from home the idea for your businesses, they want to keep their data safe. They don't want data piggybacking over the VPN. So just straight up, use the business VPN, which is what I recommend anyways, for business people always have a VPN at your office that you can use and your employees and you etc, can connect to it. Do not let your vendors connect to it, because then you have other security problems, but that's part of what we're covering in the whole VPN thing. Jim Polito All right, we're talking with Craig Peterson, a tech talk guru. All right. Listen to this, because he's going to explain to you now how to go on On the Internet, and not have a trail following you awake, because every time you go on, you know, everybody knows where you're going and what you're doing. And as far as the other stuff at the end of this segment, Craig will give you a number to text My name to standard data rates and text rates apply. But you'll be able to get all the information he's talking about. So Craig, how do I not go to Google and put something in and yet be able to go online and look for things? Craig Peterson Yeah, the whole traceability is always been an issue. And there's a few ways to do it depending on how private you really want it to be. For the average user, who wants the the utmost in not being tracked, and at the same time, have it be fairly simple, okay, which they kind of conflict a little bit but it's not too bad. I really recommend something called the Epic browser E-P-I-C. And the epic browser is based on Google's Chrome browser, but they've removed all of the cookie stuff that's being used to track you where you're going what you're looking at. So that way Danny won't get on the sidebars all this crazy stuff. He asked to look up for you, in the morning Jim Polito I know because I asked him to look up for some look up some crazy stuff. Craig Peterson Yeah, exactly. E-P-I-C and epic browser.com is where you'll find it online. Now, if you are and I know we've had people who are listeners who are in this next boat, and that is they are trying to help and communicate with friends and relatives who are in countries that closely monitor what's being said, okay, you know, I I'm, I can guarantee you that I could never get a visa to China because Because of things I say on my website, right? But there's a lot of people that that really, really don't want to be tracked online. Yeah, well, the way to do this, this is not what I would use for banking. Okay, there, which is a little bit different again. But the way to do this, if you really don't want to be tracked and you want to communicate with relatives or friends who might be in these socialist countries around the world, there's something called the Tor Browser TOR. Okay, and this is the Tor Browser, the onion network, you should probably do a little training on this one to visit. slightly more difficult to use but not too bad. It is available for iOS, it's available for Android for Macs and for Windows. So it's out there, but the to our browser is the ultimate in online anonymity. In this day and age. Jim Polito  Now, I have to give up a little something. For this convenience, don't die. Craig Peterson Yeah, you do. Yeah. It's not going to be as fast as the other browsers, that's for sure. You're not going to have a setting saved because it's not letting the cookies go through in most cases. Yeah. And, and you are with you're using the Tor Browser, you're part of the dark web. You Jim Polito You know, wait a minute. Craig Peterson Yeah. Jim Polito So this is the way that you know, we're using it so that we can hide from advertisers and the like, and the government. But dark web was really created by our government to provide an outlet for people in repressive countries like China, who want to be able to communicate, and their country controls the regular web. Right? Craig Peterson Exactly. Right. That is exactly what this is the TOR browser uses that dark web network that was established and is still maintained by the US federal government. So if you have family in Venezuela, nowadays, even Brazil to Iran, Russia, China, the Tor browser is the way to go online. It's a way for them to go online as well. She's governments keep trying to shut it down. But our I think it's the Navy that actually maintains the infrastructures of few million dollars a year cost them, but they are they're constantly working at odds with these oppressive regimes around the world. So how There you go. Jim Polito All right. Hey, this sounds great. Now, how do folks get this information? Well, you text My name to Craig Peterson 855-385-5553. So you can just text Jim, or your question to me at 855 385 5553 Jim Polito Standard data and tax rates apply and Craig Peterson will not hack you. And he will protect your information. Craig, this was a big help. Thank you so much. Craig Peterson You're welcome. And again, if people want to see that stuff on VPN, just go to my Facebook page and you can find that Craig Peters on comm slash Facebook Jim Polito And Man, Brian, the listener says thanks for answering that question about VPN. All right. Thank you, Craig, talk to you next week. Craig Peterson, everybody flies in in the nick of time, a final word when we return. You're listening to the Jim Pulito show your safe space. Craig Hey, and I appreciate you guys too. And the questions you have I don't want you to feel left out. Okay, this, this wasn't just about Jim's listeners. And I hope you're joining me this week for the VPN master class and then also of course for my friends Facebook Lives that I'm doing pretty much every day, but won't be doing it Thursday because that's what I'm planning the master class. Take care everybody. Talk to you later. Bye-bye Transcribed by https://otter.ai ---  More stories and tech updates at: www.craigpeterson.com Don't miss an episode from Craig. 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Good morning everybody! I was on with Ken and Matt per usual their base is expanding which is really kind of cool. They are adding stations and things which is quite exciting. Anyhow, I had a good conversation with them about our privacy security or what to do about it and what's in the news right now that the statistics are really getting scary frankly. Especially when I when it comes to small businesses, and of course, we discussed a little bit about what they are doing, what their bosses are doing over there at the Portland radio group, and what maybe you shouldn't be doing if you're that de facto IT person in your organization. I think what the Portland radio group is doing is a great step and it's going to make a huge difference for them. These and more tech tips, news, and updates visit - CraigPeterson.com --- Related Articles: The Future Communication Means No Phones Maintaining Privacy Means Obfuscating Online Security Answers More Than Three-Quarters of US Businesses Are CyberAtttack Targets Keeping Windows Safe Means Patching, Patching, Patching and More Patching --- Automated Machine Generated Transcript: Craig Good morning everybody! Craig Peterson here. I was on with Ken and Matt per usual their base is expanding which is really kind of cool. They are adding stations and things, which is quite exciting. Anyhow, I had a good conversation with them about our privacy security or what to do about it and what's in the news right now that the statistics are really getting scary frankly. Especially when I when it comes to small businesses, and of course, we discussed a little bit about what they are doing, what their bosses are doing over there at the Portland radio group, and what maybe you shouldn't be doing if you're that de facto IT person in your organization. I think what the Portland radio group is doing is a great step and it's going to make a huge difference for them. Matt Gagnon  Gentlemen, it's his time once again, Craig Peterson tech guru extraordinaire, and host of the Craig Peterson show on this Very Radio Network joins us now as he always does at this time on Wednesdays what's happening, Craig? Craig Hey, good morning. I don't get it here. The Red Sox are not in the playoffs now. But you guys are saying. Ken Altschuler That is correct, sir. That is correct. I did, however, win the World Series last year. So Craig it's okay. Isn't it kind of a weird thing, though, because you'd think if they were such a powerhouse last year, how come they didn't even make it into the playoffs? You know, I'm not a sports guy. You can tell. Matt  I could give you lots of answers. But we're not here to hear me talk about baseball our way. Ken Would you rather talk about Jethro Tull? Matt As long as that conversation could go?  Ken Do you agree with me that the Jethro Tull should absolutely be in the rock Hall of Fame and it's a travesty that they're not? Craig I absolutely agree. I don't get it. Why are they putting country music people in and other Ken  Whitney Houston, Whitney Houston, Craig Whitney Houston. I can see like some of the blues and Some of the old some of that eventually turned into rock and roll that makes sense. I can see that one. Well, you know, pop music gab Jessel told definitely, but anyway. Ken Yeah. So I was gonna ask you a question about lying on your password recovery questions but before we but but I want you to explain to me how AI systems are going to cause phones to disappear. Craig Yeah, this isn't going to be an eventual type of thing. What what's happening is we're putting microphones everywhere. They're in our cars. Our cars now of course have built into the many of them, you know, Wi Fi, it's time into the cellular data network, where we've started to see the rollout of 5g, which is really designed to allow pretty much everything ever manufactured to be on the Internet at very, very high speeds at very low cost. So what we're going to see over the course of the next five years, certainly the next 10 Yours is there will be internet available everywhere via every device you can think of. You know, we've got Levi's with their trucker jacket that has built in internet. Basically, it has remote controls and things, but right into it. So this is what the eventuality is now, tie that into artificial intelligence, and tie all of that into the ability for these systems to understand what we're saying. Now, in reality, it's going to take a while before they really understand it, but they are pretty darn good right now just talking to Alexa. We know that. So put all of this into a big pot and stir it up. Since it's Halloween. We'll call it a big cauldron. And stir it all up. You're going to end up with these artificial intelligence systems that are also just continually getting better and better. With the internet connectivity everywhere microphones everywhere, so to the point where you won't carry Any sort of a device that you would identify as a phone, you might have a little pin on your lapel that talks to you when you talk to it, etc. That might be a little projectors, here, there and everywhere so you can see things as kind of a screen. By the eventually this is all going to be tied right into our brains, it's going to be going into our optic nerves. We are going to become a little bored is when it kind of boils down to But before that, we're just going to be talking to devices and having them read our messages and send our messages and use it as as our communicator with no more phones. Matt We are talking to Craig Peterson, our tech guru who joins us now as he always does on Wednesdays at this time. Craig they force us here at the WGA and morning news to watch these security videos trying desperately to drag the employees not just this radio station but all Portland radio group radio stations. into being more secure with their email and stuff. Clicking on those things that say that their downloads and downloading them onto your computer and having a virus and so on and so forth. I believe that we have to watch those videos because more people are falling for it and more attacks are happening from outside. And this is a problem that's getting worse. Am I wrong about that? Am I right about that? Are we seeing a rise in email attacks? Craig No, you're absolutely right. In fact, we'll be talking a little bit more about that next week, because there's some new statistics are just coming out right now on that. But we're seeing right now that 76% of us businesses have been attacked, they've experienced a cyber attack in the last year. 76% is absolutely crazy how many organizations have been attacked and 63% of businesses reported the loss of some type of corporate or customer information in the last 12 months. It's absolutely huge and, and frankly, too many businesses are ostrich, ostrich. You're such a work. They're sticking their heads into sand, right? They're saying they're gonna it's not going to happen to me. Now bigger businesses, when you get out of the SMB space, the bigger ones over 500 employees are taking this seriously. They are doing the right things. They're doing what the Portland radio group is doing. They're making sure their employees are trained in what to watch for because most of these bad really bad cyber attacks that have happened besides ransomware have happened because of things employees do and have done and that includes opening emails. So the bad guys are good. They've come a long way from the days when it was you know And my heart goes out to that poor Nigerian prince who lost all his money. And all he needs is Us Bank Account to transfer the money through. And all you have to do is you know, keep a little commission but a lot of use your bank account. Today what they're doing is they are breaking into websites for businesses. And they're stealing all of the data they can get their Well, some of the data that they're stealing and they're going after are your password recovery questions. And they can from that find out all kinds of information. Now this goes back to of course, our friend Sarah Palin. Remember this back in 2008, a 20 year old college student broke into her Yahoo account and stole a bunch of emails from there. How does he do it? While he googled her password recovery question answers. He found out what her zip code was her birthday people will you The name of their dog, their child's birthday wedding date, social security number, but use all of these things to break into account. So the bottom line here is Portland Raider groups doing the right thing by making you watch videos. They should make you watch my videos because they're much more interesting. But, but it is the right thing. Because that is the primary way your email that the bad guys are using to manipulate you by using things like your password recovery questions, to be able to get into your accounts and it's a very, very bad thing. And that's what I'm saying right now. Everybody, you should lie on your bank password recovery questions absolutely should lie on them. When it says what high school did you graduate from? Makeup something don't just use Scooby Doo his high school graduation. But you know poolesville that's not a great one. Completely make something up what high school? Did you graduate from college ended software? And you have to remember all of these answers because you shouldn't be using different answers on every website. So put them all into a password management management program. That's what I do. Use different password recovery questions every time. You can get my password recovery. I have a 10 page thing on passwords. Okay. 10 page special report. So it uncovers password recovery stuff, but what software should you buy? Which ones are free? What should you do? But this is all part of the same thing. And you can get that by the way, just like Craig peterson.com slash password password and get that password recovery thing. But this is complicated. You need to do training with your employees and email. According to the FBI. His latest report is the number one way the bad guys are stealing from our businesses. Matt Wouldn't it be easier to just not have computers anymore?  Ken Seriously, it would be what would it be like if there was no internet? I was a very good typewriter. I mean, I could type again, if I had to. Yeah. People have to use a phone. Although they were scams that way too. Is it done? Okay. Craig Peterson joins us every Wednesday at 738. And you can hear him on Saturday from one to three on WGAN. Matt So 76% of us businesses have experienced a cyber attack in the past year. Craig Yeah, definitely. You know, it ties all in and it's it's very, very, very big. The SMB space is the space of going after that small medium businesses. Some people call the mass and the, you know, small medium enterprises. And the reason they're going after these smaller businesses, which are basically the under 500 employees, isn't because necessarily that's where the money is, but it's Because that's where they are least prepared for the attack, they're least ready for it. And they leave their money laying around. I picked up some new clients that have had their entire operating account stolen can imagine that you rely on your operating account to pay your bills to pay the vendors, maybe you are using it for payroll as well. And all of a sudden, it's empty. That is a killer for businesses that especially small medium businesses, and so now you're stuck you're in big trouble and they're going after them because they are not ready. Now the some of the stats here also are amazing that it okay 76% of cyber businesses or businesses that cyber attack and 63% of them lost their intellectual property as we mentioned, or customer information the last 12 months but those businesses 63% 50% of them will be out of business in six months. So it's 63% over 76%. And they take 50% of that they will be out of business within six months. And the really scary part is of those somewhere around 30% file for bankruptcy. The week it happens, because they realize that they just can't pay their bills. They're incomplete trouble. So everybody, do what Ken and Matt have been doing. Make sure your employees get training on email, email handling. If you are a home user, a small office, Home Office retiree, make sure you are very careful, basically, nowadays never clicked on anything in the emails is that one of the popular things right now is they're trying to get you to do something. So they'll save things like hey, we've got video of you visiting a porn site. And here's your password. Here's your username and be Cuz you're reusing passwords, it is one of your password. So anyways, I know we're out of time here. But this I can't stress this enough because I've seen so many people, it just breaks my heart that that aren't ready for this. If you're a small business, you have to address this. And you got to take some time and maybe one of the ways to start, if you're interested. Grab it right now, which is Craig peterson.com slash password. That's a great place to start playing some training, do it with your employees and, and protect your business. It's your investment. And if you're the defacto IT person in your organization, you're going to get blamed when this happens to you. Matt Well, on that cheery note, ladies, gentlemen, Craig Peterson, our tech guru who has been joining us as he always does on Wednesday morning is is done for the day. So thank you, Craig. Appreciate it as always, and we will talk again next week. Craig, Hey guys, thanks a lot. Alright. Matt So we're going to take a quick break we'll be back on the other side of the break coming up next on WGAN Transcribed by https://otter.ai   --- More stories and tech updates at: www.craigpeterson.com Don't miss an episode from Craig. Subscribe and give us a rating: www.craigpeterson.com/itunes Follow me on Twitter for the latest in tech at: www.twitter.com/craigpeterson For questions, call or text: 855-385-5553

Good morning, everybody. I was on with Mr. Jim Polito this morning.  I don't know if you've noticed, but I've started kind of a soft launch. So this is kind of hush-hush. I have been wanting to try this for a while, start doing some live streaming over on Facebook, because a lot of people who are the de-facto IT people for businesses use this platform. You know, who you are -- you're interested in computers and you're kind of the operations person. Now you find yourself elected to be the computer person.  That leads into what I've been doing here this week, and I'm going to keep doing it, without really promoting it. In fact, I haven't really told anyone but people have been finding out which I love, okay as I'm helping and I love the feedback I'm getting. I have been doing Facebook Lives now. I kind of did it this morning with Jim Polito and I had a couple of little issues when I got started figuring out FB specific tech. But hey, if you check me out on Facebook, you will find my Interview with Mr. Polito that I did live on Facebook as well. Also, I had a daily, this week of little training videos, I'm doing lives talking about VPNs. We're talking about all kinds of aspects of VPN this week and next week's mobile devices and then we're going to get into Wi-Fi and then security compliance. We're going to be doing this and so you will eventually I'm guessing next week, or maybe in Saturday's email, I'm going to be announcing but if you want to be in a little bit early, go to my Facebook account. It's Craig radio, actually is what my facebook account is. And you can see some of these lives right there.  Well, it is that time so, here we go with Mr. Polito. For more tech tips, news, and updates visit - CraigPeterson.com ---  Related articles: Maintaining Privacy Means Obfuscating Online Security Answers The Future Communication Means No Phones ---  Automated Machine Generated Transcript: Craig Peterson Good morning, everybody. I was on with Mr. Jim Polito this morning.  I don't know if you've noticed, but I've started kind of a soft launch. So this is kind of hush-hush. I have been wanting to try this for a while, start doing some live streaming over on Facebook, because a lot of people who are the de-facto IT people for businesses use this platform. You know, who you are -- you're interested in computers and you're kind of the operations person. Now you find yourself elected to be the computer person.  That leads into what I've been doing here this week, and I'm going to keep doing it, without really promoting it. In fact, I haven't really told anyone but people have been finding out which I love, okay as I'm helping and I love the feedback I'm getting. I have been doing Facebook Lives now. I kind of did it this morning with Jim Polito and I had a couple of little issues when I got started figuring out FB specific tech. But hey, if you check me out on Facebook, you will find my Interview with Mr. Polito that I did live on Facebook as well. Also, I had a daily, this week of little training videos, I'm doing lives talking about VPNs. We're talking about all kinds of aspects of VPN this week and next week's mobile devices and then we're going to get into Wi-Fi and then security compliance. We're going to be doing this and so you will eventually I'm guessing next week, or maybe in Saturday's email, I'm going to be announcing but if you want to be in a little bit early, go to my Facebook account. It's Craig radio, actually is what my facebook account is. And you can see some of these lives right there.  Well, it is that time so, here we go with Mr. Polito. Jim Polito  The man the myth, the legend, our tech talks. Guru and good friend Craig Peterson. Good morning, sir. Craig Good morning. How are you doing, Jim? Jim  I'm good. How are you, Craig? Craig Doing well, but enjoying the show per usual this morning. No wonder you the fastest growing show in the world. Also the fastest growing host when you get right down to it. Jim Yeah, I'm the fastest growing host. We should put that out there as it is an interesting promotion. Well, thank you. I appreciate that. But you are part of the reason why we are one of the fastest growing shows and it's what you bring to the table. And I found two things today. And I hope we can get to both of them in your material. And we'll tell folks at the end of the segment how they can get on your mailing list. So you can have what I get every week from Craig. Craig, this is this is interesting, right when I saw that headline I got it You should lie in your password recovery questions like when they say, what was the name of your first pet? What's your mother's maiden name? And what street where you are is your family living on when you were born? Right? Those are the most common. And and you're saying lie on those questions. Craig Yeah, this is a little different than you're used to with what your mom told you to do when you are because , n fact, you should lie to your bank. You should lie. Jim I do frequently. As a matter of fact. I say that now because I might get arrested for that. Craig You're right. It was a different type of line, right? Yeah. In this case, what we're trying to do is avoid what the FBI is warned more than just this last month is the number one problem we have when it comes to hackers. And that is the whole problem of hackers getting our personal information and then using that to hack us think back a little bit to the days of the Nigerian prince scam, for instance. And, and I help and developed a system to stop these scams all those years ago. But that's where you got an email from the prince and he needed to get your help because he's trying to get his money out of Nigeria, and you needed a US bank account to move it through. So would it be all right if you send to the money and you could keep a little bit of it as kind of a commission that you could then you could then use I didn't end this spelling was terrible. The grammar was terrible. And, you know, they were doing it on purpose to get people who were, frankly a little naive, right. And unfortunately, they caught a lot of people Today they do real social engineering. So they want to know your name, your birthdate, where you're from all these things. And if they break into a website, and that website is asked you those questions, and they'll have it. So I want you to go back to when the book going room came out. There's a little bit of a subtle reference. I do remember actually. And then there was a kind of a comedy democrat book called going ruse about Sarah Palin. Remember, there was a 20 year old college student that broke into Sarah Palin's Yahoo account. By the way, Yahoo is paying people right now. And you had if you had a Yahoo account, it was compromised, basically 2 billion accounts compromised. And Yahoo is paying their penalties right now in the form of checks. But anyways, courage was broken into specifically by this 20 year old, because he could go online and find out what your zip code was or birthday, the date of her wedding, the name of her kids or husbands or dogs and all of that sort of stuff. And he got into it. And he took all of her emails, and he shared them with the media. And there was a whole big thing about Sarah Palin because of that. That's social engineering to just an amateur degree. Today, they want you to put in all this information on the website to be able to recover your password. So here's my advice to you. Don't give them the real information. I use a password manager. You've known that for a long time. Yes. And you can get my special report on passwords. If you go to Craig peterson.com slash passwords. It's free. It's easy, okay, and it's 10 pages long telling you what to do how to do it. So I use a password manager and I put in my password manager in my secure notes and I just told Bank of America that I was born in ultra design. Well, first name of a city, right? American. Yeah. And I told Bank of America again, this is for the recovery questions right? That my the name of my first teacher was CEO Soho, right. And I'm never going to remember this because I told Bank of America that but I told TD Bank something entirely different. Yes. And I do that for every website. So that now if someone breaks in, and they're trying to get to me, because they know I'm a business owner, they know I have employees. So they want to try and transfer money out of my account like they've done for some of my newer clients that I picked up because of the bad guy who's got their bank accounts or operating accounts. There are many good because Bank of America thinks that, you know, I was born over here and in fact I was born over there. According to This this other website. Jim So good advice there right here bank? Well, at least on the password recovery questions, it makes sense because people could also get that information. All right. Let's go on to this one. That that obscene amount of money that I spend on a smartphone, I won't be doing it in the future. Well, wait a minute, I'll probably be still be spending an obscene amount of money. But I won't be using a phone because AI is going to be all around me. What's this? Craig Yeah, this is interesting and scary and wonderful all at the same time. A guy that I follow Gary vein or truck, yo, smart guy. He's claiming now that artificial intelligence is going to get to the point and is going to be so ubiquitous, it's going to be everywhere. That everything we do is going to change. Take a look right now. We've got these Amazon Alexa is there all over the place I have a my use of the Internet. That's how I listened to your radio show. I just tell Alexa the tune the end. And off I go with my, my Jim Pluto show. So what and, and Amazon has a new Echo, which is one of these electric shock devices for your car, little teeny tiny thing. And it clips right on to the event. And it will hook up to your phone so that it gets data and it hooks up to the Bluetooth to your, your stereo so that it can play and then you just talk to a Jew to ask it to send a message, make a phone call, play certain music, whatever you would normally have your Alexa do very, very cool. And that's today. So another five or 10 years from now. We're going to have you know Google Play in the car. We've already got some fairly advanced technology Apple has car, play, etc. Yeah, the cars and upcoming with Wi Fi built in the coming with microphones and speakers, but they're these devices, Gary saying are going to be everywhere and AI is getting so good at understanding what we say and interpreting it. You know, it's still not okay. But it's a lot better than it was that in 10 years from now, these devices are going to be everywhere. We already know that Levi's is building smart, smart jackets, their trucker jacket, it has sensors Jim crazy Craig in it. That soon going to be everywhere gym and we're going to be because of that able to just talk to get answers go further. And if Elon Musk is successful, he has a business and just came out of stealth mode. And that business is designing a direct neural interface into your brain. Jim No, really Craig  Yeah. And the glasses think of google glasses that weren't such a big hit people today are would be a little more accepting from those. But it's going to be everywhere. We're going to use it for everything in our lives just going to get simpler and more complex. Remember, the younger generations don't care that everybody has all their information, and they will trade their email addresses for as little as a cup of coffee, according to a test. I know. Jim I know. They will, which is incredible to me. Craig Yeah. This is incredible. I don't know how far we're going to let this go. But you know, let's get right down to it. Even marketers, right? If I'm buying a car, not only do I not mind seeing car commercials that are aimed at me, they know I want a new F150 pickup truck. And so I've got now 10 dealers bidding against each other trying to sell me an F150 I'd rather have that. Then Then have, you know all these other commercials for all of this other stuff that I don't care about? In some ways, having the marketing guys kind of know who I am, what I want, is really to my advantage, and yet at the same time, I don't want you've got it, you've got to look at it. You've got to drop everything. Jim The thinking is I need this device in my hand to be able to connect everything to I'm going to be connected to everything. Craig Yeah, it is entirely different. So you're not going to be carrying that little device around. You might have a pair of sunglasses, it might be in your hat, it might be in the color of your shirt that you're wearing is just a little clip, and it's going to change absolutely everything. Now I want people to also understand something that is not being talked about the time into this. And that is we've got a couple of candidates on the trail now like our beloved senator, and they're out saying, Hey, listen, if a company replaces you with automation, we want that company to give you stock in the company in lieu of a job, which I can see where she's going with this. But what we're actually finding is that the jobs that are being replaced, obviously, they're the simpler jobs typically, those people and the new jobs are being created, are higher paying. And we know right now with the economy the way it is and what President Trump is done, but blue collar workers, the lower end workers, if you will, have been making more money. Some of these jobs have paid 15 bucks an hour before President Trump was elected are now paying as much as 25 an hour. But we're also seeing that the new jobs are being created, even though they might not require A whole huge level of skill are actually higher pain. Yeah, so this is gonna be an interesting trend to watch and hopefully we don't get caught up in that negatively. Jim This is great stuff, folks, you know, every week every Tuesday at this time, we're joined by Craig Peterson, but you can stay in touch with Craig, he doesn't want to sell you anything. He just wants to provide you with information. So what you do is you text my name, Jim J-I-M to this number Craig 8553855553 just texted Jim, to me at 855-385-5553 Jim Standard data and text rates apply. Craig will not try to sell you anything. You won't hack you, but you'll get the information I get. And it's interesting stuff and you the best to know this stuff. And to be ready for it. So Craig, thank you very much. We'll talk with you next week, buddy. Craig Take care, Jim. Bye-bye. Craig  All right, everybody. Take care. I'll be back tomorrow and of course this weekend, and I'm going to try and do Facebook Lives for the radio show.  I have been taping the radio show beforehand. So you may see them. I don't know how best to do this. Do I do the facebook live while I'm recording it because sometimes I go in and do some edits. Do I not bother with Facebook Lives? Do I use a pre-recorded thing to do it? To air, Facebook Lives on Saturday? I don't know if you guys have any suggestions, but if you do - drop me a line it is just me M-E at Craig Peterson dot com. I'd love to hear from you. We'll figure this out. We will take care, Bye-bye. Transcribed by https://otter.ai   ---  More stories and tech updates at: www.craigpeterson.com Don't miss an episode from Craig. Subscribe and give us a rating: www.craigpeterson.com/itunes Follow me on Twitter for the latest in tech at: www.twitter.com/craigpeterson  

Hey, good morning, everybody, Craig Peterson here. And a shout out to those people listening on the weekend. May be this morning as well. Man. This was great this morning with Mr. Jim Polito. I think we were both on the ball, with exactly what he's been talking about all morning. I love listening to his show. When I'm not listening to podcasts or working, right, that's kind of my life lately. But here's what we talked about the whole deep fake thing. Some, I think, major surprises, at least for Jim, what's going to happen. Do you know what an October surprise is? Well, it's October 1, we're not going to have an October surprise this year. But we will next year. I've been following this deep fake pioneer, Hao Li and what he had to say is this. This is scary. I even went into President Obama's birth certificate when you're talking about deep fakes. So, we'll tie this all together. Listen in, I think you are going to really enjoy this. Here we go. I am putting together some courses for everyone to help them sort out all their cybersecurity issues.  While I share quite a bit for free -- I do charge for some of my courses.  Good thing for you -- if you sign up on my list you will get special offers of up to 50% off.  So keep an ear out for the announcement of these courses.   For more tech tips, news, and updates visit - CraigPeterson.com ---  Related articles: Real or Fake — Can You Tell Perfect “Deep Fakes” in the Next Year ---  Automated Machine Generated Transcript: Craig Peterson 0:00 Hey, good morning, everybody, Craig Peterson here. And a shout out to those people listening on the weekend and maybe this morning as well. Man. This was great this morning with Mr. Jim Polito. I think we were both on the ball, with exactly what he's been talking about all morning. I love listening to the show. When I'm not listening to podcasts or working, right, that's kind of my life lately. But here's what we talked about the whole deep fake thing. Some, I think, major surprises, at least for Jim, what's going to happen. Do you know what an October surprise is? Well, it's October 1, we're not going to have an October surprise this year. But we will next year. I've been following this deep fake pioneer, Has Li and what he had to say is this. This is scary. I even went into President Obama's birth certificate when you're talking about deep fakes. So, we'll tie this all together. Listen in, I think you are going to really enjoy this. Here we go. Jim Polito 1:04 Here he is. Our good friend from the great white north. But you know, he's from the great, the great cloud. He's kind of like he lives in the cloud. I'm talking about our tech talk guru. And all around great guy, Craig Peterson. Good morning, sir. Craig Peterson 1:26 Hey, good morning. Jim Polito 1:29 Good to talk with you today. This topic when I when you sent me this. I said this is important. And they're the deep fakes. This is the ability to manipulate video. And images like Hollywood does now. You know, in movies, you know, to make it look like Robert Downey Jr. is actually wearing an outfit you're in the suit and can fly. But the technology in the ability to do that could be in the hands of everyday people. And that I think is a problem. A big, big problem that people don't understand it's going to go beyond just folks making their own little funny movies. But These things could create war, and cause people to be harmed, cause people to be slandered and libeled when they didn't do anything. Don't you agree? Craig Peterson2:42 Yeah. And then they've been proven right after the fact. This is really a major, major game changer. There is a researcher down at MIT at a conference and he said he thought deep fake sort of arriving in the next two to three years this was about a year ago, as I recall. And I want to try and what you're just saying to just real life. Toy Story came out recently. I don't know if you saw that your kids a little old? No, Jim Polito 3:15 I didn't. But they loved the earlier movies. Yeah. They did Craig Peterson 3:20 So let's just use toy stories. Example then. Toy Story for just came out. And compare that to the original Toy Story, which was about 20 years ago. Yeah. Yeah. And technology for Toy Story cost 10s of millions of dollars, just the technology to do that animation. But a couple of decades ago, today, you could make Toy Story easily on your smartphone. Yeah. And the software you'd have to buy is like a few bucks. Right now, if you even bothered with that. This Christmas. I think it is Carrie Fisher going to start in the new Star Wars. Right? Well, She's gonna be in it. But and she's dead. Jim Polito 4:09 For about two years. Craig Peterson4:13 Yeah, very troubled. That poor lady. Especially towards the end. Now, Carrie Fisher in Star Wars The last time was kinda cruddy if you saw it, right. But we have seen this in movies now where they're taking an actor, and they're making them younger. In fact, with Harrison Ford, what they did to make him look younger, is they use some of his videos his movies from 20 3040 years ago, right? Some of those were ago. And what they're able to do is use those videos, those old movies and a sample of them. So now I want to have your thing for a minute about who the most videotaped people are obviously actors, some of these actors around a while, yeah, I suspect that they will be with us for the next 50 years. Because frankly, they have plenty of samples from prior movies. And they're going to be able to use those samples and throw those faces. Initially, they're going to put the faces on to other actors that are up there. So they'll get somebody that's a close enough fit to present Harrison Ford or Carrie Fisher. And they'll use all of this old video they have of them, and they'll just paste to the face on to those other bodies. So that's kind of step one. That's where we're at today. Today, already, you can do a pretty darn convincing job with just a home computer. Yeah, in making one of these deep fakes to just talking about, Jim Polito 5:51 You know, and the least of people's worries would be I think this would be the least of their way that somebody would take your image and put you into an adult movie if you know what I mean. And then spread that around the internet and say, Oh, look, what we got here is just, you know, we got Jim to embarrass somebody, that would actually be the least of the worries, what if somebody took a video and made it look like Donald Trump was burning copies of the Quran? Okay, that he had a pile of them on the White House lawn, and he was throwing in copies of the Quran before anybody could say that's fake. Because it's, even though you have this technology, people in the know, know how to determine whether or not something is real. Craig Peterson 6:45 It would be too late wouldn't it? You know, goes back to the basics of law. How do you prove a negative right court? Right? how, you know, and that's what we're facing right now. Obviously, President Trump and this whole thing you are talking about earlier this morning? There are issues there. But again, how do you prove this negative in court? Now, this big tech pioneer, his name is Has Li. He was on CNBC on Friday. And he was saying that perfectly real, deep fake video technology is going to be accessible to everyday people in about six months. Now, we've already seen online disinformation spread through targeted social media campaigns, as well as through apps like WhatsApp. And it is already messed up elections around the world this information, the great article and in foreign policy, talking about what tap and how from India through Indonesia, Brazil, these one tap and these other online social media sites have already ready been messing with their elections. And these politicians have been using it to gain an advantage. So let's put all of this into a mixing bowl and stirred up what is heading our way soon. For instance, our neighbors to the north of New Hampshire are going to be having a primary election. I think it's February next year. We have one in more than six months from now, our then our general election coming up. And it's obviously going to be President Trump versus somebody on the other side and make you feel well to get his hat in etc, etc. Those time frames make it, Jim. So that we, first of all, we already know that social media has been used to manipulate people we already know deep takes a possible today and this researcher saying hey, six months from now, these things are going to be perfectly real. Yeah, they probably on deep x inspection can be examined closely and found to be deep fakes. Okay, that time that's true right now. How what's going to happen to put this all into a bowl? You know, I was talking just yesterday about something similar. I don't know the reason this was done. But let's go back to President Obama. You remember this whole thing about his birth certificate? Yeah. And was he born in the United States is even eligible to be president. And then he posted his birth certificate on the White House website. Yeah, I downloaded his birth certificate. And Jim, it was done by a sixth grader. It was obviously fake, obviously fake. And until the question, but why? Why did they do this? Did they create an obviously fake birth certificate for President Obama to just keep the narrative going, going to distract everyone? Why did they post that on the White House website? It was Kim, it was so obviously fake, anybody that uses Photoshop and the pastor illustrator, we go in there, the layers are still there, the software layers are still there, and the birth certificate. If you look at the edges of the characters, obviously, these were made on a typewriter and scanned, and the serial number was obviously put in by illustrator, Adobe Illustrator. So why was that fake? Obviously, fake birth-certificate put up on the White House website? Yeah. And now we, we look at the deep fake. And my mind is blown. That was just so simple. It was so simple. anybody looking at it would say, yeah, this is obviously a fake, right? Well, anyone that knows anything about technology, this is obviously it was fake, like gonna happen in six months to a year from now. Every every major presidential cycle every four years, we have something called an October surprise. Today is October 1. What's going to happen when someone releases enough? October surprise, yeah, that is a deep fake. Whether it's obvious or not, what's gonna happen? Jim Polito 11:20 Yeah, because it What, what did? What did the Mark Twain say? A lie is traveled around the world before the truth is even woken up, you know, or gotten breakfast, or something like that. But yeah, it's absolutely true. This is fascinating. And I know Glenn Beck has talked about it in the past, and said, it's coming. While it's no longer it's coming, as Craig is telling us, it's here. So Craig, how do folks get this information? And then other information about all of this stuff? Bye. You know what? texting my name to this number? Craig Peterson 12:06 Sure, that'll work at 855-385-5553. So just text Jim, just the word Jim, on your phone. to 855 385 8553. And I'll keep you up to date, Jim Polito 12:21 Standard data and text rates apply. Craig Peterson will not take your image and insert you into some type of compromising video. He's done it to me, but he won't do it, too. Yeah. Yeah. Standard data and text rates apply. Craig This was fascinating. Always a pleasure, sir. Craig Peterson 12:46 Thank you. Take care, Jim. Take care. Jim Polito 12:48 All right, when we return a final word, don't go anywhere you're listening to the gym. Craig Peterson 12:52 So what did you guys think of that? Is that something that that you like that kind of deep analysis and I try and do that on my weekend radio shows and we've been putting them up as podcasts we're going to continue doing that. But let me know what you get out about it, what you got out of it, what you think about it, how it applies to you and you know, your business people. Obviously, those are the ones that I am going to be able to hopefully pick a few up his clients so that I can keep my lights on and keep doing this. So if you're a business person, please take a minute to reach out to me if you don't, that's okay. If you're a home user, retiree, etc. Great. I am so glad to help you as well. But you can always reach me with anything at me at Craig Peterson.com Take Care of your body, my mind Transcribed by https://otter.ai ---  More stories and tech updates at: www.craigpeterson.com Don't miss an episode from Craig. Subscribe and give us a rating: www.craigpeterson.com/itunes Follow me on Twitter for the latest in tech at: www.twitter.com/craigpeterson  

Today’s guest needs no introduction. He is one the most iconic living figures in bourbon today. He’s been on episodes 77, 105, and 175. He’s even got his own personalized scooter to get him around the distillery and that is Jimmy Russell. This podcast touches on his early years and how he was selected to become the next master distiller. He talks about the changes he saw at the distillery as it exchanged hands throughout the years. Also, we get to hear the story on the birth of Rare Breed and his opinion on chill filtering vs non-chill filtering debate. Show Partners: Barrell Craft Spirits blends cask strength, high quality spirits to explore the effects of different distillation methods, barrels, and aging environments. Find out more at BarrellBourbon.com. Use code "BOB2019" for discounted tickets to Bourbon on the Banks in Frankfort, KY on August 24th. Visit BourbonontheBanks.org. (Offer good through 6/30.) Aged & Ore is running a special promotion on their new Travel Decanter. Get yours today at PursuitTravelDecanter.com. Receive $25 off your first order with code "Pursuit" at RackhouseWhiskeyClub.com. Show Notes: The history of JW Dant and Log Still Distillery - https://www.distillerytrail.com/blog/j-w-dant-investing-12-million-to-restart-historic-distillery-in-the-bourbon-capital-of-the-world/ Heaven Hill 7 Year Bottled in Bond Launch - https://www.facebook.com/bourbonpursuit/posts/2640636035998401?__tn__=K-R Leave us a review! https://link.chtbl.com/LeaveAReview This week’s Above the Char with Fred Minnick talks about speaking at a Total Wine event in Atlanta. Does limestone water make a difference in bourbon? How long does it take to cook bourbon? Can you burn the mash? When did you start at the distillery? What roles have you had at the distillery? What Master Distiller trained you? How did he decide he wanted to train you? What were the early years like? Was there anything from prohibition that affected the distillery operations when you started? Will you all need to increase capacity soon? What was it like when you first started traveling to talk about Wild Turkey? What were your biggest challenges on the road? Were you nervous when you first went out on the road? Were you happy traveling and talking to the consumers? What was the name of the distillery before Wild Turkey? What was it like to distill then ship the bourbon away? Tell us about the other former Lawrenceburg distilleries. What was it like when you were out on the road? Do you think it helped grow the brand? Do you prefer to travel or be at the distillery? Tell us about Kentucky Spirit and Rare Breed. How often are you going through and sampling barrels? Do you have a favorite warehouse? Do you have a favorite floor? Why do you only have 7 floors? What innovations have you seen throughout your time in the bourbon industry? Talk about your rye mashbill. What do you think of non-distilling producers? Tell us about the inception of Rare Breed. Do you like the barrel char flavor? What do you think of chill vs. non-chill filtered? What kind of steak do you like? How much time do you spend at the visitor's center? What do you drive most of the time? Are you excited to have Bruce at the distillery? Did you ever want to own the distillery? Why do whiskey consumers get enthralled with age statements? Any life advice for younger generations? 0:00 I've had one bad job since I've been here. My dad worked for Old Joe Distilling company. The last 10 years of his life he worked here. 0:09 You know what the problem was? You were working here too? Yeah, I was his boss. 0:13 Oh really? (laugh) 0:28 Hey, it's Kenny here and this is episode 207 of bourbon pursuit. It's been a pretty busy week and a half of bourbon news. So let's get to it. Another warehouse comes crashing down. However, this time it's not because of unknown reasons, but it was because of disastrous weather in wind. O.Z. Tyler located in Jonesboro, Kentucky, had a corner of warehouse age get ripped off and barrel started coming to the ground back on Monday, June 17. About 4500 barrels and bourbon more in that quadrant that have now been rescued. The warehouse has been successfully deconstructed, and the cleanup process is underway. That particular warehouse holds around 19,400 barrels. O.Z. Tyler has been in daily meetings with the Environmental Protection Agency to make sure that everything stays contained. On the right side there has been minimal damage in very little leakage because bourbon barrels are constructed to withstand plenty of movement. JW Dant, you've heard the name before because it's one of the many brands owned by Heaven Hill and is also one of the prominent bottled in bond Bourbons that you see on the shelf. And it's been talked about previously with Bernie lovers back on episodes 3637 and 89. Well, heaven Hill may own the name JW Dant as the brand but they don't own the person. j w. Wally dance surprised the crowd during the national bourbon Day celebration in Bardstown, Kentucky, announcing a $12 million investment to build logs still distillery on 2200 acres of land that he purchased that was once guessed them and he decelerate until that was actually shut down back in 1961. In 1883, that distillery at this site was called head and beam distillery but was closed during Prohibition. The distillery reopened the repeal of prohibition, eventually selling to United distillers and later Shanley production at the old distillery was relocated to Louisville in the early 1960s. And production at this location had ceased. The JW dant brand name was sold to heaven Hill in the early 1990s. Heaven Hill still produces JW Dant bourbon today, so don't expect this name on a future bottle from logs still distillery. You can read more about the history of JW Dant and logs still distillery at distillery trail.com with the link in our show notes. while speaking of heaven Hill, everyone is up in arms either celebrating or chastising them over the new announcement of the relaunch of their heaven Hill bottom and bond. You may remember this last year when this product was only available Kentucky and it disappeared from shelves when it had announced its retirement. However, it's back. But there are some catches. The age statement has been increased one year from six to seven years old. It's still bottle and bond at 100 proof the packaging is a bit more flashy than its white label screw top predecessor. Now the big news might be that it's not launching in Kentucky, and it's not going to be available in Kentucky on the first release. Instead, it will be immediately available in California, Texas, New York, Georgia, Florida, Illinois, South Carolina and Colorado. And the prices jumped from the once low budget daily bourbon of $12 and 99 cents to nearly three times that with a suggested retail price of 3999. We're gonna be discussing this one in a lot more detail on the next round table. So we can see where this new price point positions them in the market. So stay tuned for that one. Today's guests, he needs no introduction. He's easily one of probably the most iconic living figures in bourbon today. He's been on episode 77 105 and hundred and 75. He's even got his own personalized scooter to get him around the distillery and that's Jimmy Russell. This podcast touches on his early years and how will you selected to become the next master distiller and how he saw the changes of his own distillery changed hands plenty of times throughout the years. It was certainly an honor for myself to sit there and chat with this man one more time to really just hear more about his story. You're listening to this podcast so we know you enjoy it a little bit. So if you can please be our boots on the ground. leave us a review because that helps the show grow and find new people. Now let's hear what Joe Beatrice over a barrel bourbon has to say. We've got Fred Minnick with above the char. 5:03 Hi Joe from Barrell Bourbon. Here we blend cask strength 5:06 high quality spirits to explore the effects of different distillation methods, barrels, and aging environments. 5:08 You can find it on the shelves at your nearest retail store. I'm Fred Minnick, and this is above the char. I was changing my nine month old baby's diaper. When suddenly an enormous back pain struck my lower back a spasm seized my spine. It says if 1000 vodka troops grabbed their pitchforks and started stabbing me. Thank goodness I was able to place Julian gently down and the changing station as I toppled over and intense pain. I simply couldn't move. And all I could think about was the total wine event I had in Atlanta later that day. I considered canceling it decided to push on. I drove to Atlanta from Louisville stopping every hour to stretch my back. At one point I thought I was going to pass out in the middle of $1 general and chat and knew them as I was shop for back support things. If I did pass out there, I don't think I would have woken up with much. It was a very interesting crowd shopping that day. I pressed on, I get to the total wine two hours late, and there was a decent crowd waiting for me. I tried standing and talking but could barely stand. So I sat and talked about taxation and bourbon. I never really know what I'm going to talk about with these things. I like to feel the crowd out. And this was one I felt was really hungry for geeky knowledge and somehow bourbon taxes just kind of rose to the forefront of what to talk about. I went through my spiel sign some books and magazines, but couldn't have a tasting. For some reason. Georgia doesn't allow people to have tastings and liquor stores. When will our country figure out that responsible alcohol actions are the answer, not pesky bands on things like tastings. I feel really bad for those total wine workers because they can't really share the goodness of bourbon. Anyway, the next day I went to Atlanta's other times wine. When I ran into the show's good friend Kerry, aka suburbia who taunted me with a vodka bottle and took a picture of the pleasure he had. You should check it out on his Twitter handle look for suburbia, it really captured my disdain for the bourbon job stealing parasite known as vodka. Seriously, vodka sucks. Okay, I told my therapist I would cut back on my vodka rant. So let me get back to the total wine stuff. I did a similar talk about taxes at Kennesaw store and later hung out with the club Atlanta bourbon barons, where the founder Giuliano opened up his house and insane collection to me, at this point, after hitting up the urgent care center the day before, I was on some medication for the back and couldn't really partake in much of this great whiskey tasting. But I slipped a little, just a little. One of the members is Atlanta's leading personal trainer and geologists who sees Atlanta Braves players and people who have a bunch more muscle than me. He offered to look at my best And that, to me is the epitome of the bourbon community. We like to help one another. Atlanta was gracious with the bourbon hospitality and concerns from a health and it just made my trip all the worthwhile. So thank you so much to the Atlanta bourbon community for opening up your arms and accepting me and my bad back because I hobbled to and from all the total wine stores and to your homes. I shared this with you because I feel like the bourbon community is at a breaking point on the internet. I'm seeing constant trolling and bickering and online forums. And maybe it's time we go back to the old ways of the bourbon social life. You know, when you invited total strangers into your home and poured over your conversations with your very best Bourbons. Those were the good old days, and I'd like to see us get back to them. And that's this week's above the char. Hey, have you subscribed to my new magazine bourbon Plus, you should. Latest cover features the actor Jeffrey Wright, who's starring in James Bond and john wick. He's on the cover. Check it out. Until next week. Cheers 9:08 Welcome back to the episode of bourbon pursuit the official podcast of bourbon back in Lawrenceburg filming recording on site at wild turkey distillery wild turkey Hill I believe one time is what you call it right Jimmy 9:21 is known as wild turkey he'll it's been named Ed bar county is known as wild turkey. He'll 9:26 There you go. So we have master distiller Of course, bourbon legend, Jimmy Russell on the podcast today. And before I kind of dig into it, just want to say thanks to everybody from the empire that helped set this up everybody that also kind of figured out the logistics for it as well. We are recording outside today. So if you hear some trucks going by, it's something that Jimmy had already mentioned earlier to us that there is a rock quarry probably about a mile and a half down the road. And apparently they make some pretty damn good limestone and that's where you hear these trucks that are just going back and forth all day. Right You know, this is where all the lamps only had to have good limestone water to make good bourbon and the Kentucky River is all spring fed limestone water. So I guess we'll go ahead and we'll kick it off with that. So anybody everybody knows Jimmy so we'll get we'll get past that but you know, we'll we'll talk about water in general right because I think it's one of those things that gets a lot of talk about when it comes to Kentucky bourbon you know, you talk about limestone and about limestone filtration but does it really matter at the end of the day because a lot of stuff goes to like reverse osmosis and it's really filtered heavily through there so what's 10:32 kind of your thought process well done in the cooking process we use just limestone water is no go so old time we use house Moser is I use when we're cutting a bourbon after it's been aged for years, but it's just regular Kentucky River water when when you're actually cooking it 10:47 coconut. Okay, so I guess let's let's give some people a little bit of a schooling. So when you're cooking bourbon, what's what's the usual time process when it goes into the masher and everything like Well, 10:59 it depends on time a year we're cooking 400 bushels to a mash corn rye and barley malt. Now the cooking times are the same we cook corn up to 212 degrees and then we cook it for a period of time. Then we start cooling down we had a rather certain temperature has a little more starts a little more flavors, and then we cooling down to certain temperatures. It had we had to barley malt barley malt converts all starches into fermented will sugars. Then we pump at our firm better at our east and East a non ferment will sugars produces a bourbon in 72 hours. And this depend on temperature cook, the cooking temperature is always the same. But cooling down from 200 and 20th. We're cooling water outlet Kentucky River used to cause and all in the wintertime, we can cook and pump a fermented mash mash out in a firmer and three and a half, four hours. And when we just shut down and last part of June the water was hot. It was taking four and a half five hours. So what you're doing, you're setting there and beating that grain to death cooking in the I use simple terms. Just like cooking at home, we leave something on the stove too long. It gets mushy and not as good. So 12:11 yeah, but do you get any like, like say you're putting in like a baking pan? Does ever actually get like black underneath of it? Like if you actually cooked it too long? No, no, no. So you're not gonna actually get can actually burn it. 12:23 No, you're not going to burn it. 12:25 So is there? Is there a point when you know that the mash is done? 12:28 In your opinion? Oh, yes, you can tell by looking at the firm better. First day is pretty smooth and even on top. And they used to own sugars and the apartment or is rolling and moving and it's the natural movement was the East really known the sugars scene. And as it starts finishing Oh, we call it down down they'll start dying down and it'll be come out clear on top. 12:52 Oh yes. The father the firm enters right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. 12:55 We call it beer at that stage. 12:57 So distillers beer. Absolutely. I so what's let's let's give everybody a little bit of a history lesson too because you started here at wild turkey back in September 10 1954 Okay, so you know the exact date remember the time 13:12 6am seven o'clock in the morning 13:16 maybe I'm not the first person to ask that one. I don't know. Yeah, so you you've pretty much taken you've done a pretty much every single role with inside as 13:25 well yes. 13:27 Most of times you started in the bourbon business you started one place you stayed there all master still it took me under his wing. And that started out in the lab and salary time I learned that you know we learned a job well you can sit back and take it easy, then a boom into something else moves. So that experience in running the ball and operation running the whole client and exercise client management for several years. So what what made it into balls By the way, who was your master distiller that Mr. Bill Hughes he was young distiller for probation and Helio God appeared top heel. And he's took me under his wing started training and were born raised here in Lawrenceburg, Anderson County, and he'd known me you know, all my life and he more or less took me under his wing started training me. 14:14 What What was it about you that? Did he see something? Was there a glimmer in your I did you? Did you ask like, what was it? 14:21 No, I didn't really know. He just they just started trading me doing everything here. 14:25 He's like, here's the here's the biggest sucker in the room. And probably 14:29 nobody else would ever 14:31 know how to use it. 14:33 So what were those were those beginning years, like when you're when you're trying to have this apprenticeship. 14:40 While he's learning everything in the story. I worked in quality control and the story that day and time we didn't have all is saying they will quit what you have now. we'd run analysis on the corn, check it make sure it meets our standards, everything we done by hand. Now you have good equipment to check off, they're going to say you check all the grain and maybe four days are with you my brother scoop shovel shovel, and done a little bit everything. 15:09 So So you started 1954. Right. Yes. So at what point was that during pre post, sorry, post prohibition and and was there anything that really that was, I guess, prohibition ask that that affected your your job at the time? Or is everything just running full cylinders? We started of prohibition in 1933. And this story, some of the buildings and our storage bill some our storage building here 15:39 was built for and 1890s. And most of the steel was, was dismantled cause it was 1919 1933. A lot of them didn't think they'd be back in operation. But the family that owned this at that time is a big rock where why the amount of limestone out here blows. And they own that rock quarry too. So they work here in wintertime. Work in Iraq, we're in the summertime. 16:04 So yeah, you weren't running full cylinders, like you are today. 16:09 Still the same way as to the hot mush July which medicine we don't make any bourbon you just too hot. Doing it now bottling in Hawaii, how's everything Danish goes on all the time? Before it's a cooking mash? It just takes too long to cook them and cooling down. 16:26 Now, do you think that has any effect on the supply of what you all can try to produce? Or? I mean, do you look at it as maybe we should throw in some air conditioning units or open some windows? And 16:36 well, that's not the problem is the water? Oh, is it we say we start having chill water to cooling down. And it just takes along with our we've doubled the capacity owners are to steer in the last few years. So we're running about 346 faster right now. So when we build servers angry, the refurbished everything, we doubled our more than doubled our capacity. And the way we got it now we can put in extra parameters, we can still put in more firm owners and increase more and more. 17:08 I mean, do you do you see the day coming? Where you're going to where you're going to need to do that? Or is right now everything pretty good. And status? Well, 17:14 you know, I hope we have to go save when I started 50 or 60 barrels a day. Now, of course we're restricting our own product, everything to wild turkey products here we make our own product, a drone product and bottle our own product. 17:30 Well, almost right you've got a few other things out there old recipe bond and 17:35 that was too old to steal was that was a one time deal. They went back and done some compile on that. But that's some older stories was here. And they've been looking at some of the older stories for for probation. Maybe doing a special every once while now. 17:49 Yes. What to say I was like there's another one that could be coming out. I think it was the wash. Was it the barons? The barons releases or something like that. They look like it was kind of another another camp party thing. But we figured you probably didn't have a whole lot of your hands involved in that one. No, I didn't. So another thing I guess let's give an idea of, of what so at some point, you are also Do you remember when you had to start going on the road to start talking about the bourbon? Yes, 18:20 it was probably at least 30 years ago or more. And production to master distillers working in production. They just do is to play. That's all you done. And our company started me out going on the road and made a trip all across the United States. And it is completely different is now everybody is all whiskey don't make it. What it is nowadays, everybody. With all internets and everything. Everybody knows everything is going just like this broadcast broadcast. You all covered everything people know what's going on all the time now. 18:54 Well, there's a hungry consumer out there, right? They, they, they want to know more 18:58 they want. That's what I say when I say started. There's always good in my country with what it was. But now they're very well educated. They know what's going on all the time. 19:06 So what was what were some of the biggest challenges when you were doing that in regards of trying to get people to either listen to you or try the product? 19:14 Well, they listened. When you started talking to them, they really listened and this one he's a bourbon Sally's come along whiskies of the world and it's all over the world anywhere you go in the world, you know, for many years, and bourbon was strictly a Southern Gentleman strength. They got their cards or cigars and bourbon went to back room playing cards. That's where it comes in. How will you read old story you never drank bourbon till after five o'clock? Or somewhere? It's always five o'clock. Yeah. But that was always storing in his coming worldwide right now. The export market is huge. everywhere in the world. Now bourbon is really doing well. Were you because you were 19:56 I guess you consider yourself a pioneer when it comes to going out traveling and and talking about the whiskey. Were you nervous? 20:03 No, not really. No, I'm just playing. Oh, Jimmy. I'm saying Well, I mean, 20:08 at this point, yeah, you've stood up and you've talked in front of a bunch of people for quite a long time. And I know one of the things that was always relatively funny was Eddie would always say you know you didn't really do a whole lot of talking at home but you should see it the distiller you're doing you're doing your thing then you're always talking 20:25 well that's what he said the first trip he made with me. Then he come back home said Mama, you don't know that he said he's out here so you can keep him quiet. What 20:36 do you think you think you found like 20:40 like a new new happiness when you were when you were traveling of trying to find a way to connect with consumers I 20:45 had but I've always been people enjoy people. I'm a call myself a people's person. I like to be just like here. I tried to get down to Visitor Center at least once today. Talk to the venture see what they have to say about it. And my wife likes to come here to and on Saturdays. My family has breakfast to get we're family everything's open Joel except our home. That's all but we have breakfast together every Saturday morning. And we she'll come out with me actually she worked here for ideas even she worked here for eight years or children come along and she stayed home took care of the children and and we have Bing she likes come out here and see the vicious dog and they like see are so weak and then after church on Sunday we normally come out a little while on Sunday afternoons I get to spend more time in a visitor center that away for through the week. I got a job to do up there and I don't get down here as much. 21:41 So you know I think I remember this correctly. When you said your your wife Georgia, by the way it is now was this place called was it old tub or Old Joe? Is that what all 21:51 know it was Anderson County just still in 21:53 Anniston County. Okay. 21:54 And then one time was really brothers. And it was JT s brown at one time. And then been since 1971. has been Austin Nichols. 22:04 Gotcha. All right. We'll see. Mr. Sir. I'm learning something today as well. 22:08 They also Nichols company. They had their bourbon made here. It was shipped to New York and bottled in New York at that time. And they bought everything out here. Both the whiskey the day old already here. Um, it was already there. So they both and they didn't buy any other products at JDs brown at them. They didn't buy any of that. 22:30 Alright, so at what point so you were here during the entire Austin Nichols? 22:34 Since they've actually owned everything here in Kentucky. 22:38 Absolutely. So what was it like during that time to sit there and distill and then just ship everything away? Like what was what was the Lucille Ball and everything here? Okay, you're still doing that too? 22:48 Yeah, we're doing everything here. So talk about a little bit because that was in the 70s. Right. So it wasn't it wasn't the heyday for bourbon. No bourbon was true. Say back in that day and time bourbon restrictive Southern Gentleman. Right. So what was what was the, I guess you could say the are or the feeling that, you know, kind of went through a lot of the veins of people around here of what's going to happen with bourbon during that time. I mean, well, you know, before prohibition, it was 12 distilleries here in Lawrenceburg, Tennessee, Canada was known as one of the biggest selling cup places it was at that time. Most when I started with steel for here for roses known at nationals are still here in town. Old Joe distilling company was here, and Hoffman distillery was here, then we were here. So when I started the steel forward, now we're down to two four roses and us, 23:41 right. And so what what was what was the Old Joe and Hoffman? What? What kind of fate were they delivered? 23:47 Well, Joe was one of the oldest brands just our 1918 is one of the oldest, oldest brands, and they had several different brands. And in Auckland, they had half and broke. Then they started days were broke. Hmm, there was worried started, 24:04 which, from what I understand is Ezra Brooks was even a real person, right? 24:08 I thought he was I'm not sure. 24:11 Fancy. I don't know. I think that's been one of those biggest lords of bourbon. Nobody actually knows who Brooks actually is. I think it's just a fictional character. Good to be. 24:21 Jimmy Russell doesn't know I'm gonna I'm gonna go ahead and put my stake in the ground. It might be fictional. I might be right on that one you might be right. 24:29 So I kind of want to go back a little bit about, you know, your time on the road and what it was to to start doing that because you said you weren't nervous. But what was what was the reception of a lot of those people? You know, you'd said that they were they were listening. But do you think that that sort of help kick mark or sorry? kickstart the the market at the time for what we're seeing today? 24:53 Oh, yeah. say they've started wanting to learn about his dad and no, back to Ezra Brooks. Love the fellowship, Assyria his his first name was Ezra now well, that had anything to do with it. I don't know. I don't know either. I don't know either. But the fellow that owned all hapa distillery, while the owners first name was Israel, 25:11 we'll have to look into that. And put that on the research papers for later. But again, I cannot go back to your traveling, you know, the reception of those individuals and how that kind of kick started. So how long? And how many years? Were you traveling? And you're still doing a little bit not near 25:27 as much? Well, I'm still doing it in the States. I'm not going overseas at doing most of traveling overseas now. But, but I've been in just about every country in the world, who was talking about bourbon and say it's become a worldwide drink people's really educated and where you go in the world now. And so you have the bourbon side is in Japan, Australia, Europe, everywhere. Women in the bourbon women, the whiskey of the world and everything nowadays. 25:53 Absolutely. So do you. I guess I'm trying to find a good word to kind of summarize this with but when you're Did you did you look at that time traveling as as a good time to be able to do that? Or would you rather been back here at the distillery kind of overseeing a lot Oh, I enjoy 26:11 doing that. I would want to be a distillery. I wouldn't want to do it all the time. Like la the ambassador's is now they're on the road all the time. But every so often be out on the road and see what two people has to say, you know, you make it, agent, bottle it and ship it out. Unless you had complaints. And we've had very few of them over the years. You never heard any more about it. This way. When you're out in the field, you get to meet people. It's enjoying it and drink it and hear what they have to say about it. 26:40 So when we talk about just the whiskey in general, what do you what do you look at as some of the more brands that that you fall in love with? You know, we've talked to Eddie and and you know, he talked about everybody's got their baby, right? Everybody's got their baby. And so he looks as Kentucky spirit and rare breed. We're really your babies. Yes, 26:59 Kentucky's spirit and Blanton's was the first two single barrels on the market. Way back in early 90s. The first two barrel proofs on the market was Booker's and rare breed and that was late 80s, early 90s. Now everybody that has them but they were the first to own the market. 27:16 So kind of talk about what the Kentucky spirit line really is and what it kind of means to you as well 27:21 the Kentucky spirits of single barrel your hand selected and selected one when you say single barrel has come one barrel and one barrel only. So you're selected. Now here way we do it. Every barrel has a little different taste, even though it's the same going in his way of white oak tree grows in the woods has effect on a tree. I use simple terms. You plant flowers around your home all the way around someone who better on one side or another cause you get more sun more rain or same with white oak trees. So we were selected, were selected consistent taste Now we have this barrel program or bars restaurants, distributors can come in and select their own barrel. We'll have some more spicy pans on the wood some lyst because they know their customer we're trying to please everybody who are they know their customers and they were picking one one of my wanting more spicy one might not want is spicy. So when we're selecting the single barrels 28:19 so the I mean how often were you actually going through and testing some of these Kentucky spirit barrels to see if they matched up profile that people would want to come in and actually purchase them 28:30 we we've always done that we check everything we're Hey, we don't control our grains check before it's ever unloaded, we check it actually grounded. We check it when it's been cooked. We check the firm owners we taste a new product before it ever goes into barrel and then we check new barrels make sure they meet our standard we use a number for heavy char we make sure everything meets our standards before 28:54 so it's like it's like you almost have like a battle of wills here right because you've got this you got this heavy lean on consistency where you're saying like yes, we've got one mash bill we go in one entry proof we do this we do this that have this level of consistency and it's like but we're going to come up with a product where every single thing is different 29:13 you know me I like to be consistent even though I've come up with American honey I've come up with several different experiments over the years but you know I use simple terms Yeah, I certain foods and if I don't like taste them but I'm not gonna eat them again. 29:31 Like what like what foods you're not gonna try again? 29:36 Yeah, cuz simple. It feels like people say like, I'm too old to eat this anymore. I'm gonna enjoy the rest of what I'm going to eat. 29:41 Well my wife sure she says I too much steak and beef. 29:46 You can't have enough steak. That's BBQ Yeah, there you go. What about stuff that you you're not going to touch? Anything that you're not going to touch anymore? No Really? 29:55 Mo is not very few thanks to that. Oh like 30:00 Alright, so let's talk a little bit about the warehouse is here. So it seems like you probably know every every nook and cranny of a lot of these things right? So do you have Do you have a favorite warehouse 30:10 you know to me, most of them. If you sit near you see they all said about the same level. Get same airflow, get same air flow and everything it or some places are you know they're down in valleys different places. But here we're good now at likes a and b warehouse he says it is but you know he gets something in your mind you believe it but I may. I don't see a lot of division er houses. 30:38 What about the floors Do you have a particular floor that you're akin to? 30:41 Well the third fourth fifth floors ideal aging. The first and second floors at same story warehouses. It can be 30 degrees difference between the top floors and the bottom floors. It ages two faced on the top floors and don't age fast enough on the bottom floors. So at times you have to rotate bottom the middle forces idea who managed in temperature and all that there's not that big change in it so but the bottom folders and top floors it is if you use over an hour going to the warehouse you start up steps every floor use field difference in the heat on up. 31:16 So why do you think they stopped? What do you stop at seven place? Why would you go like a 50 story warehouse? 31:25 Do you love bourbon? How about festivals? course you do. So join bourbon pursuit in Frankfort, Kentucky on August 24 for bourbon on the banks. 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Well 34:10 I don't know how that would look but it'd be monstrous it'd be monsters but to back in that day in time they didn't have all this quit but you have now they they had police horses pulling the barrels up to the top floors. Oh really? Yes. 34:25 Yeah cuz i guess i mean i've seen you've seen you can go in some of these these warehouses and you do see the you can see like the pulleys and you do see like essentially like almost like an elevator shaft you put it on pull it up 34:37 cool isn't it? That's what they don't leave these two for prohibition here. 34:41 They didn't like put a put a backpack on you with a rope and make you go 34:46 away man does I now you have Rick and machines and all the put them up into three tour. So used to tear Rick's back Ned day we call the dropper she had a cable with hooks on the end. And you looped it up over the for Buffy and one fellow would hope to borrow was a hoax and I'll be back pulling them up earlier than Rick now you have all kinds of equipment to handle it now. Yeah, same way taking them out. You had to take them out the same way. 35:12 So what other I mean let's let's go ahead and rewind the clocks of time here right so during your time what other type of innovations have you seen when it comes to just yeah, either that's rolling barrels or wrecking barrels or dumping or anything like that that sort of either made it easier or just 35:28 it's made it easier you got better equipment now everything's better equipment, you know in the dump room used to knock the bone out of every barrel still. Now we got you got a bone puller pulls the barrels out soaks $1 now same way and fill in barrels you field every barrel, you had to drive the bone and it rolled it out. And it's a lot of those things is better equipment. Now that's why I say our forum and everything, we haven't changed anything. We just have so much better equipment now than you did and everybody to steal you run it by hand you had one hand on the steam veil, want to head on flow veil and you actually you got to be consistent improves on your steel if you prove runs up and down on the steel the flavors are going to be up and down. So you have to be consistent get good if you want consistent taste and flavor you gotta run the same prove all day long. 36:21 So I guess now it's a lot easier because it's all probably computer controlled 36:26 with how we have computers but we still at hand operators are still doing it by hand I can sit there and 36:32 click on click a mouse and I can make it like that and 36:35 then they had when we're grind and grind that has to be their meals we're cooking a cooker fella has been around the cooker we're filling the first matter yes be there so we're still got a computer city have sitting around doing some buy in and that's still in the middle of steel is about 240 degrees and it was hot back in that day and time setting imagine you got air conditioning control room for no sudden oh 37:04 yeah now they're just they're living life of kings or is so he you got to see the hard days hard days everything done by hand 37:12 Yes. 37:13 So let's let's talk a little bit more about the the distillation pieces of it so you've got one match but let you do for all the Bourbons but you also have a ride 37:21 around Nashville right? So talk a little about the rye when was that introduced? Like because I know for a while you know you used to have wild turkey from Maryland source oh not a store it is like bourbon even to this day you have allowed people to bourbon can be made distinctive product United States of America. And a lot of people thanks has been made in Tokyo it's not bourbon. When I started in Radwan made in Maryland, Pennsylvania. It wasn't rat whiskey rye was dominant grain on the East Coast when they come here and that's what they first started us probably George Washington was one of the first distillers I'll get this question all time who's the first distiller someone says a words I you know what I say? The first old farmer got over the mountains got a steel set up claims at the first and Is that another so I don't know whether anybody really knows who really registered still rewards. 38:17 Now that's going to be a mystery that will never going to solve. So back to the rye You know? So when was that when was that introduced here? Because I'd we had mentioned that it was it was sourced at one point for wild turkey 38:31 well it made in Pennsylvania were made for us in Pennsylvania. Okay, but we've ever since I've been here we bottle right? Then we started Mike or own 38:41 probably 38:43 late 60s early 70s. Most rise says 95% 100% rise. Ours is old fashioned formula. It's got raw corn, corn and barley. And that's way that if you look back to original recipes for and Pennsylvania, Maryland as well, they were 39:00 right. So I mean that's so you're keeping the same Nashville that you you sort of were even right. You can consider that contract was stealing if you were taking it out of out of Maryland and bring it back here. Is that 39:12 technically what it was? No, they was making it for us. 39:15 Yeah. Wasn't that considered contract distilling 39:17 or they was gone? Yeah. Same way bother stores in Kentucky right now. does a lot of social media does still brands, it does not have the story as Nautica, and that's what's made the bourbon market short right now, a lot of Bourbons made such a huge jump in the last seven or eight years. Same way as a lot of them were selling bourbon, other people live in a barn and lived under other brands. And now they're shorter bourbon. 39:43 So what's your what's your what's your take on that? Do you think? Are you a fan of indie peas or non distilling producers? Do you 39:51 think? Well, you know, they're making it for people how they want by either I guess or how they want it done. But no, monastery is Bowser says bourbon or rye all have come out of hit on it right. 40:06 Rising Tide raises all ships and right that's that's the way to look at it. So So yeah, so you've been doing that for a while. Rare Breed is the the barrel proof baby of yours. So kind of talk about the inception of that. 40:21 Well, actually, we were tasted we sample say we sample everything we're saying was Asian each year sitting here in LA the visitors come in, we'd be safe and we would sample right in the warehouse at that time. Dr. Bone had a thief pulled our Berlin sampler dr. Terry lovers come in KFC. Why can we get some of this? Why can't we get some of that? That's what brought to me. That's what brought the idea for us here that if they've wanted, that we could probably make it happen. Right? Right. It's easy enough to just not just basically just dump it right away. Don't need to prove it down too much. Right? You can't prove it that Yeah, not can prove it down. Actually, the only thing you can do is put a little water behind it to clean out your filters. Because you got a filter to get this so much at char HR and dump trolls. You'll see big flakes a char and Eric comes loose in that barrel. Then you have a lot of little fan jar that you had to filter to get f5 Charla, 41:21 a lot of people like that fine char at least some of the whiskey geeks What about you, do you when you when you have the opportunity to just go and sample something or go ahead and just fill up your own bottle? Whatever it is, do you get a little bit of that just barrel char sitting around in there? Do you 41:34 like that? Really, you don't get with a thief pull it out. You don't get that in there when he jumped the barrel and get everything out of it. 41:41 Right. But are you a fan of it? Because Because he don't be people like people? I mean, I I don't know. I look at it and you're like, Oh, it's kind of like an extra little little thing about having the bottles you can can you swirl it around you can see that 41:52 a lot of people's like so something wrong with it when they see that is what it is. 41:57 Yeah, I could see a probably a general consumer market would probably look at it like that. The same reason why everybody went to chill filtration at one point because you put ice in it and all of a sudden looks cloudy, but now we're starting to see this shift or this turn where people are, they're asking for, you know, non shelf. They're asking for throw a little piece of char in there for good measure. So I know 42:20 I know, I know it's authentic or something, you know, actually we never use chill for it depends on the proof. It depends on how much water you're adding when you cut it down whether the show failed or not. So at one on one prove up in just a few years ago we never geophones this tall it that what will happen to it. If you say you're shipping it from here and maybe 40 degrees goes to Canada 20 below, they get cloudy and hazy. And that's what you're doing. You're checking out some of those sayings. They won't get that away when you chill. 43:00 Now there's there's always the the never ending debate or story. If you do chill filter it are you removing any flavor. 43:10 Well, unless you see by federal law, if you move so much flavor, you can't call the bourbon anymore. So now you are doing very little flavors. 43:22 So you don't think it's really affecting anything you think it's more of a aesthetic. 43:26 Yeah, it's a now in the lower proves if you're adding a lot of water. See we're not a rule of thumb. It takes about a gallon of water Drew's 100 gallons of bourbon one proof point. So our barrel proof right now is 116.8. And we bonded one on one. You had very little water to it. That is coming on that barrel. 140 something you couldn't have 80 proof you had a lot of water to it. Absolutely. Because we just seal distill it low proof and put it in a barrel at low Bruce to say Hi, are you still were allowed to steal up? 160 proof? Hmm. And I use simple terms. You like to eat steak? 44:05 Do you want it well done or you want to medium rare? Yeah, 44:08 you like it? Well done. 44:10 I'm not a well done fan. I'm a medium medium rare. Just you don't get a lot of the those flavors you 44:15 answer my question. 44:18 You're taking the flavor. Hello. 44:20 Yeah, I mean, so it sounds like your state guy we were talking about already. So 44:27 are you uh, yeah, ribeye fillet. What's your what's your 44:30 what's your Academy? Like on the primary of verse your prime rib guy? I didn't even think about that row horse race choices. 44:37 Oh, yeah. That's so Joe Redis she had she had prime rib cooker for you go out around. Yeah. 44:45 You know, when the children are growing up, she cooked all the time. And now just the two of us and she never knows what time I'm getting home at nights. So weed out just if I'm in town, we added lunch. And you know, it's bad when you go restaurants now and they bring the teeth to you. Like what we said, 45:05 Jane? Yeah, well, I mean, you're here in Lawrenceburg. So I'm sure everybody probably knows you by name, that's for sure. Right. 45:10 Lehman likes to their place to we go to Lex and a lot of course I got a lot more restaurants and we have here in Lawrenceburg. 45:18 Absolutely. And so let's let's kind of talk about you know your time here at the distillery now you spend a lot of time down at the gift shop, chicken, some hand sign and bottles. 45:27 Try to get down at least once today, but I'm in distillery. Most all the time. I try to get to this person or at least once to today, usually about this time they afternoon. course they get off. Regular workers gets off at 330. So I'll usually go down our late night afternoons and sit around. I like 45:48 is it about you think it's the best part of your day? Or do you just like to have a healthy balance of getting in front of people? 45:52 I want to hear what people have to say. You know, I'm on the list and see what they have to say. Uh huh. 46:01 And plus you've got your your scooter, your own personalized scooter down there. 46:05 They had two bunnies. I can't get around and he feels he goes in these fields and I write it down here. 46:12 Right. Really? Okay, so it's an off road kind of guy. 46:16 Yes. Run 40 miles an hour on the road. Well, you 46:19 could just take it to the McDonald's parking lot if you're getting hungry today. Right. 46:23 It's not lost in Mattoon last night for the road he's got turns angles narrow lane. They bought that special for me I didn't even know that he's getting it till one day they said we need you down to Visitor Center will what it was I thought somebody that are wanting bottles I walked in and hey, come pushing that out. Sit here. This is what you go around around. 46:45 But you actually came up here we're recording outside on this hill. You actually came up here in your car you're looking actually drove up here on that? Yes. And now if had been the first for the week? Well, they tease me about this. You know what I draw most of the time 46:59 when you got most of the time 47:00 1998 Ford pickup truck. four wheel drive. Yeah, now I feel as well. And my wife forgot to her for Christmas. She's never drove it much so it's been sitting in the garage for three weeks so I told her to get out and drive Yeah, well battery dies, right? Well, it's it's only got 4000 miles on it. Yeah, and I'm driving a whole lot then well $2,000 we go to Destin Florida we're vacation Fourth of July we we drove down back so to 47:31 see now everybody that lives out in the the Destin region they know where to catch you when it when it comes time to for family vacations and stuff like that is so the other thing that you know I kind of want to talk about just kind of kind of wrap it up with some more bourbon talk is over the years you know you've had your hands in a lot of the releases that have come out and stuff like that you've handed a lot over to Eddie as well and then you've everybody's what he's really banging on Bruce to really move here now. We've I've been I've been sensing that a lot recently. You know where do you kind of see the the lineage going? I mean you excited to have to have Bruce come into here and do you think he's gonna do a good job like what do you think that's gonna be like? 48:11 Well like he said if he if he says I don't do something the heavens me. 48:17 Me and Bruce holdovers from there 48:22 but this is saying I enjoy so much about to bourbon business. All of us are close friends here in Kentucky if one of them gets in trouble others doing is anything they can to help them out. And we talked about Booker know Elmer Lee and part rain we all grew up together. Fred Nolan he grew up together at Parker son Craig been they they're about the same age they grew up together. But Craig had to give it up you know Parker old friend of mine he had Ellis disease engages in his 70s he got the point tour he still could talk all right he couldn't do anything they have big trucking company isn't cattle farms. So Craig had to give it up and stay in taking care of the farms and all now you got Bruce and free its own free little free together now so steal that vision is going on in 49:16 yeah i mean you do see this this family lineage is happening across pretty much pretty much all of them right i mean there's there's something that that there is to be said about that 49:27 little bit different on the heaven Hill side right let disappears disappears and more more business focused rather than distilling focused but the only thing known is to relive 49:37 all of this is Sharon before and countries are stock 49:41 so at one point would you would you rather had the opportunity to like buy back wild turkey and put it under the Russell name? No, we never did own it. Yeah. Well not buy it back. I'm just saying like if the opportunity presented itself or was just something that probably would never would have happened and it wouldn't happen yeah. 49:58 Yeah, it's the know it's very costly. Yes, yes, very costly. And see, most sayings if you don't turn your inventory winter for months, you're not going to be in business very long. See here we're not thinking about even turned inventory with the same date 10 to 12 years from now. So we got a lot of money tied up space in the state of Kentucky we pay a tax on each barrels and since you're in ages, yes the state of Kentucky 50:26 now you'd also mentioned 12 years but from what I understand and what I remember is that you're you're more of a like a seven to eight year old bourbon guys the 50:34 same to toys with seven to 12 Yeah, now we do an older limitation ever was while we put out 14 year old 15 the same thing the decades if we just finished the ad put out it's got 10 to 20 year old version, but it's just a few barrels and we we keep our record bottling one a lot 1400 Barroso badge bother in a small but there's no such term as small badge 50:59 now you can doesn't 51:00 really matter you can call whatever you want ours is about 100 250 barrels who were tasted all the time we found somebody thanks agent a little extra special will set them aside and keep taste them and if he starts getting that woody okie taste like a lot of would know he tastes you like an older bourbon but I don't like it and he starts getting that we can move them down at the bottom of our house and slow at age and down. We can't move same hundred thousand barrels as well on the inventory right now. 51:26 So I guess let's let's talk about that with Woody and okie bourbon because there is kind of a shift in the way that consumers are looking at buying bourbon when it comes to like a whiskey geek market right when people are coming out with crazy age data 2327 year old Bourbons and they do they've got this like heavy okie painting panicky kind of taste and flavor to it. However people like you are saying that's that's probably not the way you should be drinking personal taste Yeah, 51:57 how much it's your taste you drink whatever you live with this not my taste so 52:02 why is it that you think that 52:05 I would say a new whiskey geek or new whiskey consumer gets totally enthralled with this large number on the package rather than the taste and 52:15 it's a lot of people thanks older it is a better it is now go back to scotch which I know a lot about that to see they're using barrels has been used to us as I get as we 1516 years old to really get some good taste in it because they're using barrels and we've already used and the one thing about it when they start using your barrels they want to keep using them goes and eight years we lose about a third of a barrel is soaks into the wood and they're getting some flavor allied barrel so if they used our barrels one year beams or makers or Buffalo Trace and then it's going to change the taste of their product and that's one thing it's like food and all I want to taste the same everytime i don't i don't want some food taste this way tonight. Next week it tastes different way I don't 53:08 there's a lot of variations you can do to mac and cheese 53:12 anymore right and then you know that's funny saying mac and cheese now is all over the world he used to be he didn't see much but they were you going to world as mac and cheese they got it all now so many different ways they fix it now and cookies 53:29 Do you have a favorite mac and cheese rest we could just turn this into mac and cheese pursuit because I think there's there's not a lot of people that don't like mac and cheese 53:35 right. 53:37 Joe rata make a good mac and cheese. We don't eat much. No no mac and cheese for 53:41 all much anymore. My parents put two majors in it. 53:45 Really? 53:46 That's a new one. Here they their mac and cheese when I was growing up had two majors in it that see I don't think I've ever had that. 53:55 I can always try it though. I can always try. So we're gonna wrap it up with with one one last question here. And this actually came from a listener. His name is Jeremy. And he said me myself of several people that I know love visiting the distillery we love to visit with Jimmy for an hour. So he's a good rich source of information and bourbon lore. Now, he kind of wants to ask, what's a couple things to like an advice that you would give of things or codes to live by for younger generations? 54:24 me do it. Like I said a while ago, do it right or don't do it at all. Don't try to change keep consistent taste and flavor and all the time. Don't keep changing different times as you say to him says I'm hard headed in ways but I've done a lot of experiment in over the years with American honey with the barrels has been a scotch different barrels and everything. I've done a lot of experiment over the years but I stay strictly to old tradition doing it the right way. 54:57 Well, that's that's the bourbon side. But just in life in general. And life in general. What what what do you have some good, some good little tidbits that you can hand down to young generations of whether it's Don't work too hard? Maybe it's just enjoy what you love, whatever it is, enjoy 55:14 what you love. Don't try to be somebody who are not. That's what, you know, I don't I hope you see I'm not put on the plane Zambia, just, that's something I'm a piece of trash put on a big spiel. And I'm not if I really had 55:31 deep thoughts with with plain old Jimmy right. Alright. So let's go ahead, we'll wrap it up right there. So make sure that if you get the opportunity to come to Lawrenceburg and visit Wild Turkey, try to figure out was we're recording around three o'clock right now four o'clock, he said he's usually down at the visitor center then. So that's when you know is probably a good time to go catch him. Or you can ask the visitor center and I'll be glad to come down there and salty. There you go. You can do that as well. Right. So he'll do that for our panel cast. Listen, I will. Jimmy thank you so much for hopping on the show today. It was a pleasure to talk to you and you know, capture a lot of that good information. I'm sure we all learned something new every single time and I think we're gonna have to go back and figure out who this Ezra Brooks character was. 56:14 Yeah. Well, thank you for coming and being with us. We enjoy it anytime. You're always welcome here anytime you want to come 56:19 back, except your house right. Now that 56:22 that's all. We're family. 56:24 It's okay. I'll accept that. I'll accept that. Would you be surprised? 56:29 I'm not good on these computers. Other people tell me I saw we were home on 56:36 the internet. No. 56:39 Well, you know where you live? 56:40 Yeah, that's that's the that's the scary thing about it. gotta hide your address. 56:46 No, I'm in the phone. My name is in the phone book here and everything. 56:49 Oh, well. There you go. You can you can you can find them in the local Lawrence County phone book. Right. So with that, I want to say Jimmy, thank you again for coming on the show today. It was a pleasure to have you. That's how you can find Jimmy and I can meet him I'm sure we already talked about it will be back down in Destin, Florida at some point soon. And who knows you might see him at your favorite liquor store across the country signing bottles. 57:10 Thank you, sir. Appreciate you come. Say you're always welcome. Anytime you want to go. 57:15 I appreciate it. And make sure you follow bourbon pursuit on Instagram, Facebook and Twitter. And if you do like what you hear you want to see more interviews with legends like Jimmy, make sure you support us patreon.com pa te r eo in comm slash bourbon pursuit. That's how we're able to keep buying new equipment, putting miles on the car and making these good interviews happen. So with that, I want to say thank you again and we'll see everybody next week. 57:40 Cheers.

A jam packed episode. The first half is focused on the the largest Facebook group known for buying, selling, and trading bourbon and it’s encounter with Facebook staff about rule changes. We cover the news and share the information as it’s presented. In the second half of the show, we are joined by Marianne Eaves as she discusses her departure from Castle & Key and what’s on the horizon for her next adventure. This episode has a little bit of everything. Oh yeah, and a teaser about marijuana with bourbon which you can look forward to hearing more next week. Show Partners: At Barrell Craft Spirits, every batch they produce has a distinct flavor profile. They take pride in blending and preserving spirits for the people who enjoy them the most, you. Find out more at BarrellBourbon.com. Receive $25 off your first order with code "Pursuit" at RackhouseWhiskeyClub.com. Use code "BOB2019" for discounted tickets to Bourbon on the Banks in Frankfort, KY on August 24th. Visit BourbonontheBanks.org. (Offer good through 6/30.) Show Notes: This week’s Above the Char with Fred Minnick talks about Bottled-In-Bond and Bernie Lubbers. The Next Phase of the Bourbon Secondary Market. Facebook is cracking down. What will be the next iteration of the secondary market? When did you get the news and how did you feel about it? Will this start more segmented smaller groups? Are there any other platforms where the secondary market could exist? How does one have bourbon as a hobby and ensure that he or she is not becoming an alcoholic in the process? Are Sober Bars going to become a thing? What's new with Marianne Eaves? What was the response from other companies to you leaving Castle and Key? Are you interested in other spirits? Have you been trained in other spirits? What's your favorite style of gin? What's next for you? What do you all think about marijuana infused bourbon?   0:00 If by some chance you think that there's some background noise or you think it's being noisy, I'm going to put it on you to hit your mute button. I know last time everybody was talking over top of each other and 0:09 you saying Don't 0:11 talk to me. I don't know what to do. 0:14 The same time. 0:15 Yeah. All right. All at once. 0:20 You're doing now? 0:21 Yeah. Alright, so that didn't work. Well, we'll move on. 0:36 This is Episode 205. of bourbon pursuit. And we only have a little bit of news to go through today because it's the bourbon Community Roundtable, which is all about the news. Of course, the birthday bourbon is out of the gate. It's typically one of the first ones we see and hear about during the fall release season. Well, I guess it's that time because the 2019 edition, the specs have come out and it's going to feature and an 11 year old hundred and five proof expression which is the highest proof to date, a total of 120 barrels, which is still on May 15, 2008, and aged on the second floor of warehouse I master distiller Chris Morris and master taster Jackie's I can who have both been featured on the show previously talking about birthday bourbon selected and proved this year's limited edition, the 2019 old forced to birthday bourbon is going to be offered at an MSRP of 9999. And roughly 13,200 bottles will be available for purchase nationwide. Well, this episode, it's a doozy. The first half of this episode is focused on the largest Facebook site known for buying, selling and trading bourbon. And really, it's kind of a necessary evil because that's how valuations are really how they're created. But this is also a little pretty controversial in the underground sort of bourbon community because people thought there were ulterior motives involved. just want you to know, we try to be respectful and come at this from a very gentle stick approach. We cover the news. And the big news of this week was the letters of the admins that received them from bourbon secondary market, and they got these from Facebook officials. So don't get me wrong. There's still plenty of places on Facebook where you can get your hands on these goods. But this was a very high profile page. So we'll have to wait and see what happens. In the second half of the show. We're joined by Marianne Eaves, as she discusses her departure from castle and key and what's on the horizon for in her next adventure. Like I said, this show has a little bit of everything. Oh yeah. And there's a teaser about marijuana with bourbon at the end, which you can look forward to hearing more about next week. With that, let's hear from our good friend Joe over a barrel bourbon. And then you've got Fred Minnick with the above the char. 2:44 Hi, this is Joe from barrell craft spirits. 2:47 every batch we produce has a distinct flavor profile. We take pride in blending and preserving spirits for the people who enjoy them the most. 2:53 You lift your spirits with barrel bourbon. 2:57 I'm Fred Minnick, and this is above the char. The box came into my office like any other box, the FedEx man dropped it off. I cut it open. I ripped it out and I pulled a bottle out. But the excitement that I felt when I saw the bottle was far different than when I usually get a 90 proof bottle or some new product from one of the big distilleries. This one had etched in the label, bottled in bond. It was Catoctin Creek, a rye whiskey out of Virginia. I said it next to other bottle on the bond whiskeys on my shelf. George decal bite on the bond Tennessee whiskey, dad's hat, bottle and bond Pennsylvania whiskey, tomfoolery bottle and bond Cleveland bourbon. It's made in the Cleveland area. And as I looked at these on my shelf, I couldn't help but feel the pride just overwhelming in my soul. You had bottle and bond from Virginia, Tennessee, Pennsylvania, and Ohio. It was absolutely phenomenal. Especially when you consider that 10 years ago, the bottle and Bond was almost extinct. You really only saw about 15 bottles on the shelf and those were mostly from heaven Hill. But as Bourbons started becoming more popular and as ride became more popular, you had one particular brand ambassador who was going around the world telling people about bottle of Bach. He's covered in tattoos plays bluegrass music wears belt buckles, it can tell you anything you want to know about bourbon history. His name is Bernie Lubbers. He's one of these guys that has the passion of 1000 bourbon reps. And that's because he knows his stuff. But more importantly, he believes it. And it's my opinion, that if it was not for Bernie out there discussing the heritage and importance of bottle and bond whiskey, that we would not be seeing George decal on the shelf or Catoctin creek or dad's hat touting being bottled and bought. If you want to learn about that history, check out his website. He's the whiskey professor. He's got a book, I've written about the history of the bottle and Bond Act of 1897. But really, in today's sense, I give all the credit to bottle and bonds return to one man, and his name is Bernie lovers. So if you happen to like buy all the bond whiskey, find Bernie on Facebook, Twitter or Instagram and tell him Thank you. Because if it wasn't for him, and his big giant tattoo on his arm, I don't know if we'd have bottled in bond right now. And that's this week's above the char. Hey, if you have somebody you would like to highlight and above the char hit me up on Instagram or Twitter at Fred Minnick. That's at Fred Minnick. Until next week. Cheers 5:46 Welcome back to episode of bourbon pursuit the official podcast of bourbon. This is the 33rd meeting and podcast recording of the bourbon Community Roundtable. It's this one, it's odd because we usually spend about a a day or two ahead of time kind of thinking of random topics. I always maybe sit there and look at some tweets Fred put out the week before and and see if like that's a makes good for a conversation or a topic. However, today this one sort of came all together like within the span of an hour and a half. It was the bombshell that kind of got dropped in one of the largest Facebook groups and we're going to talk about that here in a little bit. But Kenny's here, Fred and Ryan, join me here as well. How's it going tonight? fellows going? 6:30 Great. Oh, just Yeah. Do you know says that? It's okay to talk. 6:38 Go ahead. 6:40 No, it's funny. You're in your intro. I was thinking I was like, people may or may not know I delete social media during the week. So I normally have no tables are till about 30 minutes for I logged in today on Twitter. And I was like, Oh shit. I'm really behind. What what are we going to talk about? This is insane. So super excited about today's show. 7:01 It's a it's a riddle. Like, how do you piss off at the thousand bourbon enthusiasts in one one post? 7:07 Yep, exactly. Yeah. I mean, it's 7:11 it's interesting. And the thing is, is is like I think I think what's happening can play into a kind of like a larger kind of national conversation as well. So this is you know, and this is important for all of us right now to talk about 7:27 a good I people always like discussions on the secondary market. We don't like to think it exists. But of course it does. That's That's how that's how names get kind of brand names can get spread around. That's how valuations happen. So it's almost like a necessary evil but before we kind of start talking about that, I want to go around the horn as usual. Let the folks introduce themselves and we're going to go with on my left starting with Blake of bourbon 7:53 and he's on mute direction. 8:00 Me You know, I did too good of a job under no, I'm Blake from bourbon are always fun to be here. It's a you know, let's see the 34th bourbon roundtable in a row and the 34th time you've seen my face because that is the Cal Ripken of bourbon roundtable so thanks for having me. It's a 33rd but who's counting 33rd 8:22 that I'm going to be on next next month as well 8:24 yeah, let's see what that magic eight ball says 8:28 all right Brian sip and corn How you doing? 8:31 All right I'm doing great thanks for having me again night guys. Brian with sip and corn you can find me on social all the social media is sipping porn and online you can find all those things and more at bourbon justice calm and in sipping corn calm brings you to the same place. And looking forward to to tonight's conversation guys. 8:52 Alright, and the one of the highest ranking whiskey blogs out there today. Jordan from breaking bourbon, how are you? Good. Thanks for have us. This is Jordan, one of the three guys from breaking bourbon. com, find us on all the social medias at breaking bourbon along with Patreon and make sure to check out our updated Release Calendar update near daily. Awesome. 9:13 So with that, let's go ahead and kind of kick off the show, you know, we hinted at a little bit it was going to be talking about the secondary market. There's a large Facebook group in there, they don't really try to make it sound like it's hard to find it's actually called bourbon secondary market. So there's, there's no mystery whatsoever. But it's typically one of those places that it's a kind of underground, you have to be invited into it. And it's a buy sell trade form. I know that everybody on the call is a member of it. We've all been there before. So and before we kind of get into the meat of the subject I want to introduce Craig. So Craig, I'm going to hopefully don't screw it up again. rubric. Right? has joined us today. So Craig is one of the admins of bourbon secondary mark or bsm. So Craig, welcome the show. Hey, thanks. So Craig, before we kind of get into it a little bit, kind of talk about like how you came to be an admin inside of DSM. 10:11 Sure. Um, so I think everyone knows, the group's founder Oh, and, and through another group that Owen runs, I came to know him, which is the global bourbon hounds. And when you're running a group that size, you know, you tend to when it gets to a certain point, you tend to reach out to people that you trust to help you run it. And so that's that's basically how that happened. I mean, the group existed for I don't know a good year and a half two years before I came on board with the admin team and so that's basically what it was was just someone that would be somewhat level headed I don't know that we get bullheaded I 10:58 hope so. That is the secondary market 11:01 right so 11:05 but yeah, someone although I probably get accused of being one of the more I think with my emotions first type of admin in there, you know, we we try to be fair, it can be a challenge you know, we used to admin under our names in there and then we used to add many and under the bsm page just because guys get they get ridiculous. Their their bourbon feelings get out of control. They they can't contain it in their feelings journal. And so they have 11:46 I didn't create that, that that graphic. Well, I didn't create the actual feelings journal journal, but that was someone else that made that picture. But I do take credit for for putting that into the the bourbon secondary Mark vernacular as the word. So, but yeah, so that's, I mean, that's how it came to be was just, yeah, I'm happy to help out. I think now, whenever we are looking for admin, I think our first rule is, if someone is reaching out if they're actively pursuing being an admin, like, Hey, I love to help out. No, you're not nobody, it's not a good fit. Nobody wants an admin in there. But we're, you know, a close knit bunch of guys and but yeah, we admin from the page just because, you know, guys get crazy, they threaten your family. They threaten your livelihood, it gets ridiculous all over a silly bottle of bourbon. So. So that's, you know, that's that's why that changed, initiated. So today, you know, we have this email come out, that basically says Facebook's changing their community standards are tightening them. And so therefore, or any groups that buy sell trade alcohol, they want to have that activity cease. And so we, of course, had discussions about how that would affect us how we would operate. And so I think that what you're going to find is that the mega balls group, which we also run, for auctions, that's going to get I won't, I won't call it mothball. But we're just not, we're just kind of not going to be adding any map. So I don't have the logistics of that yet. Which Owen could probably speak better to that myself. And then regards to bsm. 13:41 Yeah, as like, let's let's focus on the bsm kind of, kind of what was because I know that's what a lot of people are here, really waiting for is, is what is what is going to be the next iteration. And by the way, for anybody that is just like, totally, like, not have any idea. they're new to bourbon, yes, there's this huge secondary market that exists. There's like 55,000 people in there and people post bottles for sale, people say they'll buy it, and then ends up and shows up your front doorstep. That's what he's kind of talking about this whole buy sell trade thing and this kind of open market that happens inside of Facebook. But Greg kind of talk about what is the, like the new ruling or kinda like the the next iteration of what is to come here, bsm? What's the, what's the go. So I think what 14:26 we're thinking now is that it may go to a straight deal by messenger sort of situation, I don't know that we've fully worked out the logistics of that. And I for myself, I just think, you know, admitting something like that will just be a nightmare. You know, in some ways, it's like a second job already. But I think that will kind of have to see how that plays out. I there hasn't been any, you know, doesn't make sense to go backup Facebook group, because you're under the same restrictions, right, your, your, your backup groups going to get tagged and, and knock down if you're engaging that activity. So right now, you know, what we've read into it is just change your group name. don't have anything in your group description about buy, sell trade, don't do any activity in your group. And of course, it only takes one upset person to direct that. So I think we're leaning towards a PM, a Facebook Messenger sort of based setup similar to us some other groups that are a little smaller than us, and our maybe secret and you got to know somebody to get in there. But used to be ran by a guy named Phil. You know, I think that, you know, certain groups that allow pm dealing and we never did, we are always about just having it done out in the open. So it it may very well likely be a one at from that. When we make a final decision. I know, Owen or you'll see a post via the bsm page will come up and say as such, but I think that's sort of the prevailing thought right now is that we would go to something one fat. 16:22 So Craig, you guys get this news today, what time today, like in the afternoon, 16:27 brown about I think I was just wrapping up with work when I checked my email. And I saw that, and then we started sharing that I think it was a little bit even earlier than that, when I hopped into the the admin chat and saw that there was already some discussion about that. 16:48 So you all you all have, you know, built something that is very much a part of the bourbon culture, especially kind of like the geek culture. And, you know, we A lot of us, you know, kind of look up to, you know, appreciate what you all have, you know, done. And now it's kind of be being taken away, you know, in some ways, I mean, you know, on the personal level, I know, you guys have been through a lot like in managing this, but you know, what were you all feeling when this came through what was going through your mind when, when you guys got this notice? 17:22 I think it's like, well, here it is, right? Like, there's always been, you know, guys have speculated about this sort of thing happening to, to our sorts of groups for for a while now have, you know, Facebook's done similar things with, with other groups that were of a sensitive subject matter that they felt like, we're not in line with their community standards. And so we've always felt like, you know, the hammer was going to fall at some point. And you know, if you remember quite quite a while back, we had that little kind of dust up when when bourbon groups just sort of vanished. And there, you know, Chicken Little came out and the sky was falling then right? And then does it feel different this time? It definitely like before, you didn't know what was going on. And again, you thought the same thing if you thought, well, this is it, you know, the hammer is finally falling. And Facebook has done away with us. And we were scrambling to figure out, you know, other social media avenues to form to do the same thing that we were doing now, this time around, it seems to be it seems a little more more serious, right? Like, there's a plan they're actively searching for, for the sorts of groups that are, you know, not by virtue of being a bourbon group, are you necessarily doing wrong, but whenever you cross that threshold to buy sell trade, then Facebook's not liking that. So? Yeah, it just feels like it may have more weight this time. We're we're treating it more. I think there's some within our ranks that that, you know, feel like maybe wait and see. There's also a little bit of disbelief, right? Like, was this just some, you know, nonsense email that someone has sent trying to troll us? Or, you know, something like that? several folks, even folks that manage large Facebook groups that are not bourbon related, been received an email. So yeah, I think just more serious is is a way to kind of sum it up so enough, that that, Owen and the rest of us feel like we want to react to it, to kind of just, you know, allow this sort of thing to carry on. And regardless of whether it's by Facebook, or not, like a quote, jurassic park here, like life will find a way, right. Like, if it's not hold on to your butts. Exactly. Like if it's not, if it's not via Facebook, you know, you can't keep a good flipper down right there. Right there, they're going to try to talk to their, their bottles of it, eh, Taylor small batch and, and well, or special reserve and, you know, whatever, no matter where they are, whether it's on in a smaller Facebook group, or Craigslist, or, you know, e Bay, God forbid, or what, you know, whatever, like, folks will find a way. So what we haven't talked about is any sort of moving to any other social media format. I think once upon a time we we mess around with a and I'll probably butcher the name may way. Page me we may way, there's actually people in chat that are 20:37 talking about that right now. I I'm unfamiliar with the platform 20:40 myself. Yeah. So we had we had messed around with that, you know, there, the issue you always run into with something like this is a group this size, when you switch over to something like that, like we had kind of sort of work the kinks out of admitting via Facebook. So then you switch to another platform and then admitting via that way, and trying to just figure out all the ins and outs of that is, is a bit of a headache. So 21:10 let's I feel like everyone's already on Facebook. So that's not 21:12 tough thing to 21:15 do just automatic because everyone's on their phone every single day. And so then they just see it 21:19 constantly. And it's just one more channel you got to keep up with when you have so many already. And it's like who wants another channel to mess with? But 21:28 you already have the older generation who's not on Facebook getting on there just for bourbon. Now, I don't even know what me we is. So 21:37 if any don't even know. 21:40 My barometer but migrate everyone over there's trouble. 21:44 No, no, you're totally right. I mean, Facebook is the logical platform for a lot of these kind of things, because that is where people spend their time already. And so Oh, and it sent us a message at least Blake and I a little bit earlier. And so I'll kind of talk about what he had had posted as the potential new rules. This is not official until it becomes official on the forum. But he had said that the kind of the new stuff is that you do not talk about buying selling or trading alcohol, because this is now against Facebook community standards. So that's no longer to be allowed inside the group. You're only here to see pictures, if you want to talk about to the person that posted a picture, then send them a pm. So kind of thinks of the old days of put something up there expected pm to come in as well. discussion posts are still not allowed go over to bourbon or for that, of course, thrown out the plug for you there Blake. But another way around this is that if you want to you just throw a link in to something that you had posted off of Facebook. So if you are posting it on bottle spot or Craigslist, you just drop the link in there, and then people can pm you that way. And that's how they can kind of get get in contact with you with that particular bottle. So it sounds like if there's a will there's a way because it's hard to lose a large majority of people like that, you know, with one fell swoop and then I'll take it another direction to and see what you guys think. You know, of course, will there's a way something's going to happen. And is this just going to start more segmented smaller groups and it's going to be hard to kind of find that that one big big group that was bsm. 23:26 I think as a community like and you know, I've grown tired of Facebook just in general you know, I've been I've been finding other avenues to do you know to buy and definitely definitely just from on a personal level. I mean I I don't enjoy Facebook I enjoy instagram and twitter but you know Facebook to me just It feels like it's it's become kind of like it went from somehow from being fun to like some mandatory you had you had to do you woke up you brush your teeth see check and see who posted a picture about their kid or something it just like in general, Facebook's losing a lot of steam and society is you know, as other platforms are growing, and I think the inevitability here, and I certainly I have an app and development, but I think the the inevitability here is that somebody creates something specifically for bourbon consumers. And frankly, it should be someone on this on this podcast right now. Because, you know, the fact is, is that this shits going to keep happening. I don't know if someone saw Mark Zuckerberg fake Pappy or what but the whole? It just it has. 24:42 What's that? It was me, sir. I always took you as a fake Pappy. Yeah. 24:49 lawyer? Absolutely. 24:51 Well, he knows how to get itself out of it. That's right law saying I can't refill this and sell it. But, you know, it's just this just just going to keep happening. And then they're going to say like, they're going to start regulating your, your private messaging and just, that's what what the fuck ever, you know. I mean, I actually, the last time this happened, I actually spent a lot of time reaching out to Facebook, getting comments from I spoke to people at Facebook. About the last time you know, the last time we had some sites go down and it just, you know, I mean, they played, they played me a fool. They played every wonderful like they fit, you know, they played our government a fool. Facebook just does whatever the fuck it wants to do. I mean, it's it's stills are information. They're just, they're turds. And I hate all of this. And, you know i, that the secondary group, there comes the feeling channel, you know, right. 25:51 Give me Give me my own mean. 25:54 Or, or as my friend Steve Sabin would say, fuck that guy. 26:00 But that's how I feel about Facebook, fuck. 26:03 I think at the end of the day, right, so we're all and he notices with the whole delete Facebook move and see a ton of different long reads on tech blogs or other areas, like people are still going to use Facebook man or walk right, you can't kick it, as Fred mentioned, you wake up, brush your teeth, check Facebook, but like, that's what people realize. You know, you might leave Facebook, but there are society stays on. But that being said, bourbon might leave Facebook, and people will go with it. Because at the end of the day, people want to make money, they're going to go where the money is. So it may be more of an inconvenience, and people might complain about it. But they're still going to go do it because they're going to want to sell bourbon and they're going to I want to buy bourbon and you know, free economy will find a way. So I think it's just gonna be a super convenience. And people complain about it a lot. That being said, about a lot of people just go wherever the money is going to take them, which is the end of the day is what it's all about anyways, right? We're not like talking about a community or like, Hey, you know, checking on each other, it's, I'm going there to make money, I'm going there to spend money, that's all it is. Right? 27:00 Drop, dropping the hammer, 27:02 I kind of the tough part is figuring out Facebook's logic in this. And to me, it's just they don't want the liability. You know, we've talked about this before on multiple different whether it's shipping or just online sales, whatever it is, Facebook doesn't want the liability. So they gotta at least put that out there. What I'm interested to see is, you know, kind of going back to asking, Craig, does this feel different than the times before? Is, is Facebook really going to follow through with this? You know, it kind of does sound like they are and it is a little bit different. But we've been down this road before and then maybe kind of a See See ya a move from them of who knows, I don't know what kind of legal ramifications they'd have. You know, Brian could probably speak a little more to that seems like in the past, there's been a whole lot of other shady or deals happen on like Craigslist, and that kind of stuff. And I don't know if those guys have ever gotten in trouble or prosecuted for for, you know, actual illegal behavior, or at least more illicit behavior. But it will see, you know, it definitely is a big platform. I've kicked around ideas of having having a solution on my site with seal box. But it's just like, there's a lot of issues you have to solve before you jump into that. And Facebook was always just the easiest route, because everyone was there. So that'll be interesting. Next, next couple of weeks, for sure. 28:30 Yeah, it sort of struck me is is and maybe this is just wishful thinking something that all pass that they'll crack down for a little bit. And you have to be doing things through links to bottle spot or direct messages or whatever. And then it sort of flows back into the way it was. I mean, that's, that's my guess, anyhow, I don't I think you're right, Blake, that it's probably a lot of See ya from Facebook. But other than that, it's, yeah, there's the underlying fact that in most jurisdictions, you can't sell person to person on the secondary market. So once they get their lawyers involved in telling them that I mean, that's, that's the road, they're going to go down every single time. You know, your rules, 29:16 rules, 29:18 rules, we make exceptions to the rules, we enforce the rules, and we get paid on at each step of the way. I'm 29:26 honest about it. 29:26 It's the greatest cycle there is in business. 29:29 Exactly right. Yeah. To get paid at every step 29:34 to I've wondered, too, is this going to push it more? Is there a lobbying effort? Maybe is this going to push it more toward like Kentucky's vintage spirits law and is there a push to get it into those retailer hands so that you have some assurances against fakes if you're buying it from a reputable vintage, you know, retailer, 29:57 that's a great point, I actually had this conversation with a friend of mine who's in the, is a really big seller. And I said, it's going to be great for for us because no one knows where to go to get bottles. And you know, and then if you have if yours, if you're a key person, and this in this chain, everybody's going to remember you from those groups, or whatever. And you're just going to call them and so you're going to have, you're going to have more, you know, more buyers from from that perspective. And I'll also say like, I get probably five, five emails a day, and I'm not even kidding, five emails a day of just someone from someone finding something in their basement. And I try to always push them into the legal ways to to sell that. And nobody wants to do that. So that's right. No One No one wants a record of the transaction. Everybody wants cash. 30:53 So just just low ball but keep the bottles here so 30:58 maybe that's what you 31:01 all those emails to me, Fred put an automatic 31:05 inquiring about said ever you get him to? Great Basin him to all of us. 31:10 One of us, right? 31:12 Of course. Yeah. 100%. And then it's like double what the secondary market is, like, was thinking maybe around $4,000 for Pappy 15? 31:21 Because it was their grandpa's and their grandpa? 31:25 So it has additional meaning to them. It sounds about right game of Go 31:29 Fish. 31:30 Yeah. Like the Nigerian prince all over again. So, you know, 31:36 while we're talking about sort of what the next phase of this is, I mean, do you think if there's any other platforms where something like this could live? Or is Facebook, the only one because if we roll back a few years, read it went through the same exact thing. And so Reddit kind of shut down their, their whole entire sales motion. And so when you look at the difference of what you see on Reddit versus what you see on Facebook, it's too opposite worlds, right? It is definitely more conversation focused, review focused, everything like that, versus Facebook, which is buy sell trade, and then you've got a few groups that are kind of like news. You don't really have a whole lot of people putting their tasting notes out there. But do you think if there's anything else have, 32:17 I mean, at the end of the day, right? So both Reddit Facebook, at its core, at least for like the bsm and the Reddit, it's just a V, it's an old school, the Bolton board, that's all it is. It's just an old school forum, if someone just creates a forum, and yeah, it's one more link, you have to go to a new moderator. That's all it is. Right? Anyone I mean, literally anyone watching right now or listening later on, not and do this, you just got to get the masses to go there. But that's literally That's hard. That's all we're talking about Facebook, and not at all was just an only thing. 32:48 The winning ticket here is that there is a there's a paywall to get into, you know, some kind of forum, you know, so you pay 50 bucks to be a member. And, you know, somebody takes on the liability of having the having the forum. And, and the it happens there, you know, and then it's not public, you know, you have to you have to get there, you have high level privacy. things in there, you know, and, you know, I used to belong to a few of those in like author circles, and, you know, I'd be I'd be communicating with, you know, high level authors. And, and there was no, I wouldn't be able to share that information. Of course, it's the internet. So you always could do it, but I would be penalized strictly by the the agreement I signed to be a part of it. So I think there is a way to do this, and we can protect the people who want to enjoy this hobby. But I'll go to the lawyer here in the ass. Is that possible? Could could we create some kind of 33:53 private forum where we get out 40,000 33:55 people in 33:56 there? What can you do? What can you do something like sports, but or gambling? Like, you know, but when I did used to gamble, I had a private website that I went to and yeah, back in the day 34:08 where you would going on? You 34:10 would, you know, you bet your and you'd have your bookie and you would meet him, you know, once a week to settle up. I mean, and it goes on, like all I mean, it still goes on. And so it seems like that could happen for some of these secondary markets also 34:22 means you have an intermediate intermediary 34:25 act like a I mean, it wouldn't be legal obvious, right. But I mean, sports bookies and gamblers are getting away with it. Nobody's cutting them down to shut it down. 34:32 Right. I think that's a bigger market. Much bigger market. 34:36 Yeah. aliens. There. So here, yes. And then that's why I'm not exactly sure. I haven't figured out why there's the focus on the whiskey market here. I mean, it's sure we've got 50,000, or whatever it is members of these groups, but what's that it's a drop in the bucket. It shouldn't really bother anyone. But when it comes down to it, it's in most jurisdictions, you're not supposed to do it. Fuck Facebook. 35:07 So it's Facebook now in the same genre as vodka in the lounge, red manic, a lot of hatred. We need a sign behind you, Fred. 35:20 like Facebook right now, you know, 35:22 Facebook has its purpose, you know? I mean, I don't know, I don't know what that purpose is anymore. But whatever. So vodka, vodka has no purpose. Let's just put it that way. 35:35 So to kind of wrap this up, one last question for Craig, what are you going to do with all your free time now? You know, 35:43 honestly, I was probably over the past few months have been one of the lesser active admins, but you know, it makes for you gotta do something while you're sitting on the toilet. Right. So now I guess I have to go back to reading or 35:56 something like that. 35:58 Wait, wait, wait, did you 36:02 You did all that admitting while you were on the toilet? 36:05 I mean, what else? What else? You gonna do it? Right? 36:12 Well, they weren't accepting donations. So you know, they weren't getting paid for the job. So it's, it's out of the graciousness of their hearts that they were doing. So absolutely. So Craig, thank you so much for coming on tonight and kind of giving us a breakdown of sort of the the history of what it is and sort of the future of what we can expect from the the new bsm going forward. So, again, as of today, everything is still provisional. So wait until you hear from an admin on a forum to kind of see what the, the actual future will hold. But if own or anybody else wants to that on the admin team, they will post the email that Craig was talking about at the very beginning that we were alluded to as well, so they can see that this wasn't just all smoke and mirrors. That was a real thrill threats happening. Alright. 37:02 Thanks, Greg. Appreciate it. Thanks, guys. 37:03 Yep, man. 37:06 So while we wait for Mariana to come on, you know, let's let's kind of switch it in a different direction. But let's go ahead and kind of take it as I mentioned, we had a we had a listener sort of reached out to us and talked about it was actually Patrick Nall. He reached out, and we all have bourbon as a hobby. But the question is, is how can we ensure that we are not becoming an alcoholic in the process? It's Kenny here and I want to tell you about an event that's happening on Saturday, August 24. Because I want to see you in historic downtown Frankfort, Kentucky, at bourbon on the banks. It's the Commonwealth premier bourbon tasting and awards festival. There's live music and over 100 vendors of food, beer, wine, and of course, bourbon. But guess what even will be there in the bourbon pursuit booth. You can check out all the events including tastings with the master distillers that you've heard on the show before and the People's Choice Award for the Best bourbon out there. You can get your all inclusive ticket for $65. Plus, you can join on the free Friday night event. Go and check it out bourbon on the banks.org and through June 30. 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So it is a really a kind of a sad reality of it is you don't want that to ever be a problem for someone who you're enjoying a hobby with. And then all of a sudden, that's an issue. So for me, it's just like taking, you know, whether it's a week, few days, you know, some even go month off of drinking, I think that's really if you figure out if that and that dependence is there, and it's no longer fun, and you're just drinking to drink. So I think that's important to take time off every now and then. 40:46 So I think I'm know, I'm the only one here that does it full time. Right? Jordan Are you full time yet? 40:54 drinker? 40:57 This is like I know, Kenny, you'd said, this is the hobby, this is actually what I do for my living and have done so for more than a decade. And, you know, when I came, I, you know, I'll share something very personal, you know, I, I have PTSD for my time. And in Iraq. And I have been, I've been fighting that for, you know, since I've been home. And in that process, I went through a lot, you know, in my recovery, I went through a lot of therapy. And one of the things that I picked up was was mindfulness. And that and that is one of one of the reasons why bourbon really, why I think I really focused on on tasting was because mindfulness was basically a way for me to ground myself of something else. And you would have to think entirely about whatever it is you were doing, whether you were like you were in a year and a moment you're trying to visualize and feel everything in that moment. For me, I would visualize and feel everything on my palate. And, and when I am not able to taste something, I put the I put it down like in in oftentimes, you know, I won't, I won't be mindful of what day it is. And I'll be like, on a, on a anniversary date of something that happened, it could be you know, it could be, you know, the day that, you know, I saw someone get killed, it could be the day I almost got killed, it can be something like that. But there there are, there are things that in us that we don't always know. But we we automatically get into, you know, bad moods, and so everybody will have something that can give them a sign for when they get themselves in a problem drinking situation. And for me, it's tasting, and it's in particular of like, where on my palate, I taste something. So I would challenge anyone who wants to, you know, explore this for themselves, I would say analyze the moments that you've had, you know, you may have had too much and you did something that you shouldn't have, or you just went too far, I would say analyze, you know what you felt like going into that situation, and see if you can stop yourself from going in that situation again. And so that's just one thing that I do, I also try to like not have, you know, there's tasting, and then there's drinking, my tasting is like analytical, I keep it very, you know, smell it, analyze it, taste it, spit, you know, drinking. And this is, you know, where I can get myself into a little bit of like, you know, having more than two is if I'm watching justified if I'm watching something that I'm really into. And I'm just into that moment, or if I'm reading a book that I'm really into, and I just keep like, you know, pouring, you know, and then I'm suddenly I've got four, you know, so like, it's being mindful of that as well. It's like knowing when you want knowing when you need to stop. And always, always, always have a plan to get home. That's the most one of the most important parts do not get in the car if you've been drinking. And most importantly, the distilled spirits Council has a has a sheet for what is moderating moderation and drinking. And I really try to follow that. And you know, men can drink more than women. But there is there is a an amount and I think turns out to be something like 15 drinks a week for four men. Those are 44:37 fantastic. points. Fred, thanks for sharing. And I think I think to add on to that, right? You touched on a little bit in there. I think everyone's different. Right? So if you feel, you know, to some people to drinks, they'll be they'll be drunk, right? Everyone's body is different. So if you feel that you're drinking all the time, or getting drunk all the time, just because you're only having two, three drinks the night right? When you see other people having 910, 15, whatever, right? That doesn't mean you know, it's okay to justify it. So you'll know your own limits. And don't compare yourself against anyone else. Right? That's the best way of doing it. You know what's right for you? Right? And you know, what's going to be too much. And you're going to know, it's just right. And everyone finds that point sometime in life and just kind of be as friends and mindful of it. But don't don't compare yourself and say, Well, you know, I see everyone else on Facebook drinking. I don't know, eight doubles tonight, right? I only drink four. I'm okay force too much for you. It's too much for you if that that's what you got to keep in mind. Right? Everyone has their own personal limit. And you do have to, as Fred said, just being mindful of that. And that's one of the keys things to do too. 45:43 Did you find that limit when you're selecting a bottle or a barrel a pin hook this past week? Well, we will thankfully 45:50 told people about this first. So me. Yeah, so really quick. So me and Nick went down along with Ryan to select a bottle for break room and single barrel club from Pinnacle. They're looking to Castle on key. So they propose a crazy cool, but kind of crazy, this experience where we worked with their, you know, their master taster that they work with the castle on key to narrow down. They pulled a lot of 40 little over 40 barrels for us. And these are the barrels designated for the single barrel program. And so I'm just going through like three or four, we went through all of them, we drank all the Bourbons. So they did prove them down to 5060 proof, right? And it was a lot of smelling a lot of sensory stuff. Tons of sensory stuff, lots of spitting. So the amount of actual bourbon we drink at the end of the day, what would you say, right? We drink even like two ounces of bourbon. 46:33 If that if that. And yes, I was spitting, I was falling. It was only like two or three ounces in that plastic cup by the new day. And it was a 40% or 52. But yeah, that was like Fred said it was very analytical. Very, you know, we were thoughtful, we were very focused on what we're doing. Like we weren't there just to like, sloshing back. And our motive wasn't to go get slammer or whatever. But mean, I think you just have to know, like Fred talked about, I'm big in mindfulness awareness, like I have ADHD. And I know like, when my mind can kind of take over and send me places. And then when I've had too much, I just my body can tell me like, all right, you need to settle down for a few days, and you gotta listen to your body when you start to, like, ignore that. And you start to like, drink to fight off the the night before, you know, chasing the hair of the dog, you know, that's when I think you're like really going down a slippery slope. And I've had, I've had those days, you know, you go on a bachelor party, or you're a lake weekend or a golf weekend, and you're you're there to party for two or three days. And then like, All right, I'm done for like three or four days, you know, just to clear it up. And then when you can't recognize that I think that's when you definitely need to, to seek some help and find some because there's definitely some issues there. 47:51 Yeah, I don't know the answer. Certainly. But Fred, thank you for your your openness on that. I think that's, that will help a lot of people. Listen, running today and in the other comments about just knowing yourself and knowing when it's time to take a break. So I think that's I really appreciate those 48:10 personally. Alright, so that kind of sparked a topic and kind of went down a crazy little hope we hope we can come back out of this and raise spirits, I guess if you can a little bit. But this is really coming because there was an article on CNN this past week and talked about how investors are looking at alternatives to bars. And there's a maybe it's like a Brooklyn thing like I don't know, where there's these sober bars that are kind of coming up, right, the people are making these craft mock tales, and they still cost you 1012 bucks apiece. But do you see this is like a like a catching on thing? Or do you see this is a 48:55 just a fad 48:56 for so last year, last year, it tells you the cocktail the world, you know, most important largest, you know bar conference, they had a party, lamb grant through a party where there was no alcohol, like the opening party had no alcohol. So this is like a really a really real trend. And they're they're trying to chase 23 year olds don't drink. 49:22 So let's just go ahead, and we'll let Mary Ann's joined us. So we'll, we'll kind of wrap up this topic really quick. So Mary, and we're talking about sober bars if they are actually going to become a thing. So Fred, I'll let you finish up your thought and then will will lead on over to Mary and then 49:39 yeah, the the growth of of like the silver bars and this trend of like, just eliminate drinking. It falls in line with all these efforts to legalize alcohol advertising. And these fraudulent studies that are coming out from a publication called Lancet that is extrapolating minute to minute amounts of data and basically saying, you know, all alcohol causes all kinds of cancers. And so we're having, we're having this basically this frantic health scare. That is it, in my opinion, is fraudulent. And the industry cannot fight it. Like they're losing everywhere they turn. Because you know, there's a new study every week that tells you you're going to get cancer, if you drink alcohol. And the sad part is is every one of those damn studies almost they almost always get recanted. But the fact is that it gets on USA Today wants its air forever. 50:35 Sounds round up. And what I deal with on a day to day basis 50:40 doesn't cause cancer. 50:44 It causes it in California, but not exactly. 50:46 If you think about it, though, there's there's other studies that come out that says, oh, a glass of wine a day or glass of whiskey a day, whatever it is, and then you're going to live to 90, you know, these are and anybody that I Google's it, I think there was a TED talk or something like that, where somebody actually made a fake scientific research study and it got published in like PR news and like all or Newswire and all this kind of crazy stuff. So it was basically a study this be actually show like how false the sort of scientific studies are that that get really blown out of proportion. So it sounds like there's a there's a lobbyist group that's really pushing towards this for to make something like this a reality. 51:29 Yeah, for sure. 51:31 Anybody else have any other comments or thoughts on that before we change directions? 51:34 My only thought is that article that you sent us Kenny the the description of one of those drinks was so god awful that that should kill it in its crack. So I wrote it down and acidic beverage made from vinegar, fruit sugar, and club soda. I mean, that should kill the lemon right there. 51:53 probably use that. You could probably use that for round up. What 51:58 was it? Mix it up, right? 52:00 What's the cocktail mix made out of apple cider vinegar? It's um, where they do the fruit and the apple cider vinegar shrub. Yeah, I mean, it's basically a non alcoholic syrup, isn't it? I could be wrong. 52:10 Sure. 52:14 I'm not a bartender. 52:17 was the worst thing I've ever done in the kitchen. I can buy these from now on. 52:22 Definitely taste better than they smell. 52:25 Yes. Yes. Yeah. 52:28 I was like, I'll use vinegar on like, you know, reheating like pork butts and stuff like that. We don't we do. We smoked smoked barbecue, stuff like that, but haven't really done a whole lot in the cocktails. that's a that's a whole new that for me. That's a hard pass. So with that, let's go ahead and bring on our next guest. So you heard her already. She's been on the podcast before. I think it was like Episode 16. Like way, way back in the day. 52:52 When we we were not very good. We we still suck but I think we're 52:57 less sucky now. Marianne, welcome back to the show. 53:00 Thank you so much candy as a pleasure. 53:03 Yeah. So you know, we love to have you on I know, Fred. Fred kind of thinks of you like, like a little sister sometimes. You know, he feels like, 53:11 like you all went shopping together? 53:18 Yeah. You know, Sir Paul. 53:22 But we kind of want to have you on and kind of talk about, you know, what's new with you? You know, it's not I mean, I think you you made national headlines, right? I mean, it was everywhere the of the separation between you and castle and key. So So kind of talk a little bit about it, and sort of what's on the horizon for you, too. 53:41 Yeah, I, I am really proud of of everything that I've built. And we achieved it at Castle and key. But what I've learned about myself is that I really love making things and building things. And you know, kind of all my startup energy was used in in castle and key to get them where they are. And I'm ready to try some new things. I've been wanting to get into some different spirit categories. Not that I'm going to leave bourbon, and not not permanently anyway. But I want to get some experience in mezcal and rum and we'll see where where life goes from there. 54:20 Yeah, absolutely. I mean, I think for a lot of us, you know, we were we were all kind of shocked to see the news because we were you had been really the face of the brand for so long. I don't think there was a day that we didn't see on Instagram with you at the distillery or seeing the the gardens or something like that. So you know, definitely we wish them the best of luck and everything that they're doing, and you as well, but kind of kind of talk I know you kind of took a little bit of a break to I you went out west for a few days to kind of regroup. 54:49 Yeah, I knew it was going to be big news when when that press release went out. So I just went ahead and made the executive decision that being in a remote island in the Pacific Northwest. And my my aunt's treehouse, my dad's cousin would would be a good idea. So yeah, I took a few days off and spend some time in winter and getting ready to take a little bit more time off down in Florida right now. And I'll be heading back out west next month. So yeah, some some exploration and travels coming up just to regroup a little bit before I figure out what's next. 55:26 It's kind of talk, you know, I've been in a situation to where we're looking for for new gigs right away, and you kind of need that time away. But what was the response like from other companies or anything like that, where they was like, Oh, crap, she's on the market. We gotta grab it real quick. I mean, did you have any of those conversations pop up? 55:49 Yeah, I had lots of people reaching out to me through the website, you know, some folks just looking to pick my brain for consulting type work. others that were like our Yeah, we've got a brand or we're starting something. And we wanted to know if you were interested in being our master distiller, but I'm not really interested in just getting another job. The consulting part is really interesting to me, I think, you know, my, my expertise in developing products and helping to design processes is something that a lot of folks more so maybe outside of Kentucky could benefit from, you know, learning the authentic Kentucky way of making spirits. But yeah, I really just want to get back into the gears and challenge myself and maybe, you know, learn learn some new things. 56:43 Your opportunity like in other spirits, like as, I wouldn't say, bourbon stagnant for your like, you know, because it's kind of the same thing. Like, there's not much variance or variation you can kind of do with that like, like with mezcal or other spirits. Does that kind of get more creative with? 56:58 I am. I'm just totally convinced that we're not done innovating and bourbon yet, but it just seems like every new thing is kind of a thing, an iteration of something that's already been done. Yep. So I think there's, there's a whole new genre of innovation out there that nobody's tapped into yet. And what it is is inspiration from other spirits, you know, and I have yet to learn everything I need to actually execute that but I think there's there's lots of interesting spirits and lots of unique ways that they create flavor that we can bring back and even though you know, it's this certain set of regulations that make bourbon what it is there's there's there's more to play with. 57:47 Right? And it's not like the bourbon consumers are so open to new ideas, you know, 57:53 with a product offer friendly, so welcoming. 57:58 Sure, our I was like, that's been the bread and butter for a while. So it's, I mean, if you've been trained in that area, or is that something that you're just you're looking to explore 58:09 in what area Miss cows and 58:12 other things? 58:13 Yeah, not Not really. I mean, I worked for brown Forman, which is a global spirits company. It's not just whiskey. Although I did focus a lot on whiskey. I I spent a lot of time in Mexico and out in California making wine they sent me to Belgium to do a few local projects. I I made vodka for them. 58:41 Along with Fred just lost Fred 58:46 he didn't spit it out. 58:51 He was just being kind. 58:54 did say I did right after I did taste it. I did ask you straight I was like, What are you doing? Why do you Why do you drinking vodka? 59:02 Dude, 59:03 yeah, it's a shame that that was the first thing that you tasted that I've made from scratch. Yeah. 59:11 Music is there anything to drink up here? Like we're gonna go to the warehouse next but you got this clear stuff that but 59:21 now you seem to have a real passion for gin. And like, you know, we hung out you know the other day and you know, we were you know, having some a lot of different a lot of different gin cocktails. What's your What's your favorite style? adyen there's a lot out there. Geez, it like gin is a almost infinite world of ways that you can change the flavor. I think that's the thing that's so interesting about it is you can do almost anything. 59:50 my palate, you know, as a bourbon distiller kind of leans towards something that's more balanced. So a London dry. That's like super Juniper forward is not where I tend to gravitate. So like a botanical, more modern botanical style, but doing really unique things. Like I think that the castle in Cajun, well, nothing is super crazier off the wall. It's unique in the way that it's crafted. And that's not my favorite word ever, but just the thoughtfulness of the ingredients and how they're integrated together. 1:00:31 Yeah, absolutely. Since you were talking about consulting earlier, David Jennings of Robert when no one wanted to ask, because you had missed the earlier half of this conversation, if you wanted to start consulting on helping direct the the new urban secondary markets and it's now going under. 1:00:49 I don't know how I can help. 1:00:56 Secondary. Did you ever did you ever buy anything? You ever buy any old bottles on a secondary market? 1:01:03 No. I tried to barter for a couple but never actually got any bites on that. Give me a great VIP tour. 1:01:12 I remember I 1:01:14 remember like, like, this was a long time ago. You were was when you were with Woodford maybe 2013 2014 1:01:24 It was a long time ago. But you were you did bring up like some kind of you know interaction with you and with you and Chris for a bottle. Is that what you're talking about when you were trying to like have a An Evening with with Chris Morris for a bottle that ring a bell? or using one of those bourbon secondary markets? And and you were trying to get people to come to a Chris Morris event? 1:01:55 Is it was it the the old president's choice? 1:02:06 She's the one she she brought up. 1:02:10 Yeah, here remember that? No, this was actually a castle. You know, a lot of folks would have those old castle decanters. Like, like, I'd never seen one before. You know, 1:02:21 for however many hundreds of dollars. 1:02:26 I don't really want to give you money. But if you like to come out and take a tour, Hillary, we can probably work something out. 1:02:34 And everybody always wants money. Mary. 1:02:38 I understand. 1:02:40 So last question. Miriam. Before we we ask one more question, then we'll kind of round this out. So for you, I know you talked about wanting to do consulting but kind of picture dream job. So here, would you like to start at something smaller and help build that up? Kind of like a you know, Catholic? He was kind of big? Let's be honest. That's a pretty massive place. 1:03:01 Looking at perfect size, perfect size? Yeah, we definitely need 1:03:06 it or would you rather go to a large corporation? You know, if it would be the heaven hills, it would be the Maker's Mark of the world, whatever it is? Or would you just like to just keep doing the consulting and bouncing around and, you know, Mark night, he please put me putting you in some tough shoes to fill here and said, Marian, could be the next day pickrell with a question mark. 1:03:28 I what, I definitely think that his passing lifted a gap in the market. So as much opportunity is this comes from that I would be grateful for I've had lots of various brands reach out. I think, you know, I'm just gonna leave myself open to the universe and see what what happens. And I don't want to say for sure, you know, and I 1:03:56 will or won't, you know, build my own someday, I think then 1:04:03 I would love to be involved with with people who are passionate and want to make good stuff. And if they turn into large brands, that's cool. If they want to keep them small and boutique, that that's fine, too. 1:04:16 Sorry. And just to have it on the record, this means you're open to pursuit spirits 1:04:23 whatever you were saying earlier will make it happen. 1:04:30 Marianne, I'll say like, you know, 1:04:33 I I've talked about you know, many times often in defense of abuse, sadly, you know, when people bring up you know, the master distiller role and everything, and, and I just don't tell you, you know, you can do anything, you know, you're, you have, you have incredible you have incredible, you know, smarts for this business, you haven't you have an ability to market, you know, for marketing and everything as well. And that's rare. And, you know, when you came out and chose to take the title of master distiller, you became a hero for a lot of young women. And there were there were women in their 50s who looked up to you after that, and, and I know that you had a lot of, I'm sorry, there's there's a chat going on in our in our group. Our, our, we've been, we've been banned, you've been named, but you you can marry and you could do anything. So whatever. Whatever it is. You want to put your mind to you know, I hope it's I hope it's bourbon. I hope you do stay on bourbon. I think you have a talent here. 1:05:55 For God's sake, stay away from vodka don't 1:05:57 don't take your talents 1:05:58 to god yeah. 1:06:02 Word of word in your in your opening statement was flavor. Yeah, just remember that let that be the driver dreams. 1:06:10 And always that cordial Fred 1:06:18 should go with a flavored vodka is 1:06:22 you guys are horrible. 1:06:27 So that was a good way to sort of wrap this up. But I do have because we always end up having way more comp topics to talk about. And I kind of want to do this one real quickly. Also, to kind of trail on what Fred said. There was somebody that spammed our chat going on it was sexy, triple x asking to people to click on links for cheeseburgers and booze. 1:06:49 And it's like is Jordan Jordan Jordan put in here like maybe we should have her on next time? 1:06:55 seem cool. cheese burgers, like the link unfortunately. 1:07:03 I was so confused when that pop up because I wasn't following the chat. And I'm like what? Who's sexy? 1:07:11 Why am I not in the chat right now? 1:07:16 I was doing my best not to lose it. 1:07:19 So speaking of cheeseburgers and booze here this was a question that Fred had put out on Twitter this past week and would you drink a marijuana infused bourbon? Go ahead. What do you think 1:07:32 only if it had real weed in it? 1:07:34 Yeah cuz let's let's before there was a lot of back and forth before like 1:07:37 of like it just 1:07:38 they put THC in know, like, we're 1:07:41 putting like the real deal in here. Like we're not doing this whole like you know, hemp bullcrap. Whatever it is, like let's go let's go all in here. And also people are going there they're kind of pissed because they're like it's not bourbon then if it's infused like we get it Okay, like like we know it's new category people just want to they really got a harp on it. But I guess the question is, is reefer bourbon Are you in or out? 1:08:05 So if anyone's had sharp Bay Have you already had it? 1:08:10 is using hops the 1:08:16 man I don't know, man. Margot. He's dropped a little ganja up. 1:08:21 There might be a little bit more than hot. Yeah. 1:08:24 Yeah. If it gives the same effect. Yes. I'm all in. Thank you. 1:08:28 Please. Somebody said yes. Because I say yes. Yeah. You know, 1:08:34 I'll go the hybrid route. Okay, 1:08:36 since I haven't added there's a there's a bar in New York you asked for a dragon and he get

Craig was on with Jim Polito. Today, they discussed the latest in Chinese offensive military weapons.  This new Chinese armored attack vehicle that can launch a swarm of autonomous drones. They also talked about the absolute need to install Parental Controls for some of these streaming and social media sites.  These and more tech tips, news, and updates visit - CraigPeterson.com --- Related Articles: Lack of Media Parental Controls Contributing to Suicides Ready For An Autonomous Robot Army? ---  Transcript: Below is a rush transcript of this segment, it might contain errors. Airing date: 05/28/2019 Chinese Have A New Offensive Weapon and Why You Must Install Parental Controls. Good morning, everybody. Hopefully, you had a happy Memorial Day. I certainly did. I spent it with friends and some family as well, business associates, you know how that all goes but having the freedom to be able to associate with the people you want and have a fantastic barbecue that came to us at a very high cost. There are a lot of people out there who want to run our lives, control our lives. And my gosh, have you watched the series Chernobyl, if you haven't seen Chernobyl on HBO, you should take the opportunity to view it. Chernobyl shows some of the significant ultimate pitfalls of socialism, and what it does to us. Here we have all of these people who are willing to put their lives on the line, even though there may be significant issues with why we are somewhere, why they think we shouldn't be there. Just the fact that they are volunteering to do it, that they're stepping forward, and so many have lost their lives. My heart goes out to them and their families. And thank you, thank you, thank you. You know, I came to this country, I'm an immigrant myself. And I am so glad I have the opportunity to be an American, to be a citizen of the United States and to be with so many like-minded people. I'm sure many of us disagree on things. I know. I've got people who vehemently disagree with me, Wow! There are trolls out there. Overall, I think we agree that we have a right to free speech, although so many on the left don't appreciate it. They want that to squash free speech. We still have it, and there's been an enormous price that paid to protect that right. Sorry, this was not meant to be a lecture. Okay. I do want to go to our friend, Mr. Jim Polito. We had a great conversation this morning. So, right now, we'll go to Jim. Also, I'm going to be changing the format of these podcasts here a little bit in the weeks ahead. So, some might be a bit delayed. Some might be just changing dramatically. We'll see how it goes. Be sure to let me know what you think about this podcast and maybe some changes you'd like to see. Just me at craigpeterson.com. Here's Mr. Polito Jim: Welcome to our good friend, and Tech Talk guru with, Wow, with a full plate today. Just like the cookout yesterday on Memorial Day. Here is Craig Peterson. Good morning, sir. Craig: Hey, good morning. Yeah, I had a great Memorial Day yesterday, I was impressed with those gentlemen from the Vietnam Veterans Memorial Fund. And the work that underway there. It's kind of a letdown to be on after them. Jim: This Morning. You're all very, very important. No, no, that was good. That was a good lead-in for you. And speaking of Vietnam, I want to talk to you about this autonomous robot army. Now we've, we've discussed World War three and how it has already begun in cyberspace, but there's still conflict on the ground. And then my question to you is, is it going to be run by machines and drones? Craig: Yeah, it kind of looks like it might be at least for the most part. Now. We've got China who has licensed from Russia, this, this thing, about the size of a Humvee, more or less, right. It's a small military vehicle. And what China has done with this vehicle is to combine this technology with the knowledge they gained from producing drones. Think of all the drones we have flying around our country. Did you know 80% of the drones that we buy, civilian drones, are made by one manufacturer in China. They've got this technology down, nowadays. But what is surprising is that China has been accused, even recently now, of sending GPS coordinates for these drones back to China. Jim: Whoa. Right. They are using the products they sell us to spy on us. Craig: Exactly. And in this case, to map this out, right. They can map where things are because the drones are taking pictures or video and equipped with GPS and cell capability. A beta test has been conducted to see what it might be sending, and it looks like GPS coordinates. It is all a fascinating, albeit troubling problem. What China has done now with this kind of Humvee type thing is they have installed launchers. And these launchers are designed to launch small military drones. Now, it makes sense to have a drone that was associated with let's say a Humvee, right, a small drone, you can launch, you can see what's around you may be on the battlefield, see if there's EDIS in the road up the head, all these things makes a lot of sense. It appears that this particular vehicle, which is being advertised online right now by the Chinese manufacturer, has been sold, by the way, to other countries. It is comes equipped with four of these drones that are for reconnaissance type drones. However, it also has eight other drones, known as killer drones. The idea with this platform is that they can go to any place that you want to and drop a very, small bomb with high explosives on it. We saw something like this happen in Venezuela late last year to the President of Venezuela. Yeah, the big, you know, burst in the air up front, was a from a drone, what do we do? Situations like this could be very, very, bad because think of a drone army coming after you. But let's put a bunch of pieces together. Craig: China is number one in the world right now for facial recognition, which they are using to track all of their people, right? They're not citizens. I guess civilians would be a better term to call them right, in a socialist state. They are tracking these citizens and know if they jaywalk, they lose the social credit points, or other things happen, and it gets to the point where they can't even get on a train or fly anymore. If you're China who has these drones, and they are in a small vehicle like a Humvee. They can be used to go to any location. The next step is, if they're not there already, is to identify a face or a person and have them go after that person. Thank you. Yeah, the biggest scary thing is what you might call a drone cloud. So let's think about a hundred drones looking for one person. Jim: Yeah. And so I mean, we see that stuff in the Terminator movies, and you know, the drone looking and getting a facial recognition scan, and then going after that person. I mean, that's science fiction. Not anymore. Craig: Not anymore, and that's downright scary when you get right down to it. This armed tactical truck is loaded with what they call blowfish, autonomous drones, by the way. It's reminiscent of the Borg and, and Terminator, but it's here. So your question, what can we expect in the next world war? Well, we are sure to see nation-states and going after our infrastructure, our base technology, and instead of them sending out a whole bunch of troops onto the ground, all they have to do is send out some of these anonymous elements, drones, and they could take out almost anything. So now you know why the White House Secret Service and all these other people are so concerned about it. The FAA has gotten involved, with not only the licensing of drones, that happened before but in setting up drone routes and tracking them. These things have become very dangerous. Jim: Wow, we're talking with Craig Peterson, our tech talk guru. And at the end of this segment, we're going to give you a number you're going to text my name, Jim. And you'll be able to pick up all of this information plus a lot of other stuff. And that's what I want to get to lack of parental media controls, is contributing to suicides. Tell me about this Craig Craig: I hate this story. It's very, sad. And it goes back to a study that was just completed by the National Institute of Mental Health. Dr. Amen, he's a doctor down in New York City. And he deals a lot with brain injury and helping people recover from it. If you know someone that has had brain injuries like the football players, right, the concussions and things take a look at and check out Amen Clinics online it is just phenomenal the treatments they are doing there. Craig: What happened here now, and I found out from Dr. Amen about this. There is that there is a TV show on Netflix right now called "13 Reasons Why." Yeah, this is a story of a teenage girl who took her own life, left behind 13 audio cassettes for her friends to listen to, to unravel the reasons why she killed herself. That so there is a study that was funded by the National Institute of Mental Health. And it appeared in the Journal of the American Academy of Child adolescent psychiatry and analyzed five years of suicide rates amongst people between the ages of 10 to 64. Now adults, basically over the age of 18, showed no significant change in the month after the show was released. However, the kids, from the ages of 10 to 18, showed a 30% increase in suicide, the month after that show was released. Okay. We've got to remember, and this even goes to giving kids iPads, iPhones and going on the internet, all of this stuff, young kids brains are still under construction, right? And our, you know, our brains develop until your mid-20s. Girls brains typically develop faster than boys, and we know that, right? But this is very, very, scary. Our physical brains aren't mature until the age of 25. One of my kids, who is I think he's 25. Forgive me, I have eight, so I'm not sure. I came down, and he was playing this video game. I have never seen such violence. It just it blew my mind. I don't even want to describe it on the air. I sat down and talked to him about it. Now for me, It was shocking, but to him, it was just a game. And there have been debates over the years as to whether these types of games are hurting kids or if they matter or don't matter. One thing I can see is desensitization. And now with this latest study about this movie, this video series, this TV show called "13 Reasons Why" it seems apparent that it is dramatically affecting the younger kids. And that goes back to what you started with, again, using parental controls, we have to turn them on because this show is not rated for kids to watch. And if we don't have these controls turned on this 30% bump in suicide rates can't is directly attributed to it. But my gosh, the correlation is very scary. Jim: That is something that we can prevent. I mean, we can't prevent everything, and there are always kids may have other issues but you know, you can reduce the risk. There's a lot of great additional information that Craig has, and unfortunately, we don't have a lot of other time. So Craig for folks to get the this these stories and other things they need to text my name, Jim, to this number Craig: 855-385-5553 that's 855-385-5553 Jim: Standard data and text rates apply folks Craig will not sell your name to somebody else, and he won't hack you. Craig that was a great segment. Thank you so much for your time. Craig: Right. Take care, Jim. Bye-Bye. Jim: Take care. Bye-bye. All right, we have a very important --- Don't miss any episode from Craig. Visit http://CraigPeterson.com/itunes. Subscribe and give us a rating! Thanks, everyone, for listening and sharing our podcasts. We're really hitting it out of the park. This will be a great year!  More stories and tech updates at: www.craigpeterson.com Don't miss an episode from Craig. Subscribe and give us a rating: www.craigpeterson.com/itunes Follow me on Twitter for the latest in tech at: www.twitter.com/craigpeterson For questions, call or text: 855-385-5553

Are we living in a virtual world? Is Amazon spying on us? Is your car watching you? Find out more as Craig discusses these topics with Ken and Matt on the WGAN Morning News this Wednesday morning. These and more tech tips, news, and updates visit - CraigPeterson.com --- Related Articles: Amazon Workers Are Listening To What You Tell Alexa Are We Living In A Simulation? This Mit Scientist Says It’s More Likely Than Not Your Car Is Watching You. Who Owns The Data? --- Transcript: Below is a rush transcript of this segment, it might contain errors. Airing date: 04/17/2019 Our Virtual world - Data Cars Are Collecting - The Truth About Amazon Alexa Monitoring Craig Peterson  0:00  Good morning, everybody. I expect I'll be doing a couple of It's a Security Thing podcasts this week. So make sure you check back. Today I was on with Ken and Matt. And we reviewed of course the articles in the news this week we talked about the cars and the amount of data they are collecting on us right now. We spent a little bit of time talking about this whole what's happening with virtual reality thing and, you know, a couple of other topics came up as well. So here we go with Ken and Matt. Matt Gagnon 0:34 Alright, here we go. It is 7:38 on the WGAN Morning News on Wednesday morning. And Craig Peterson joins us as he typically does on this day to go over what's happening in the world of technology Craig Peterson. Welcome to the program, sir. Craig 0:46 Hey, he does you know, I remember back in the, must have been 74, 75 driving down the Decarie expressway in Montreal and having the axle in our car come out the side rear axle. And it was hanging out about two and a half three feet almost ready to completely come out. So we didn't just almost lose a tire or lose a tire. We almost lost the whole wheel and the actual want to happen to be actual came out of our car. That would, let me tell you that was quite a quite an event because the Decarie expressway was was a very busy back then in the mid 70s. Ken Altshuler 1:28 How did the wheel on the other side stay on if your axle came out that far? Craig 1:34 What is the differential in the rear right, rear wheel drive car. So there's really two axles and so the one on the left side somehow the bearing went and became detached from the differential and slid it out. Man, that'll wake you up. Ken 1:51 Yes, it will. Speaking of waking up, Craig Peterson. I thought that Alexa, can't listen to what's going on in your house? Craig 2:02 Yeah, you know, there's been a lot of bad reporting on this. And you know, other than us right here, I think most stations tend to report things incorrectly. Knee jerk. Let me put it that way. Matt 2:15   Are you calling people a fake news? Craig 2:16  Fake news? Yeah, exactly. It's been all over the place just last week. So I'm not surprised you kind of caught up top this one Ken. But here's what they're saying. They're saying they're complaining that the Alexa is listening to you. And worse than than Amazon's people are listening to you. Here's the bottom line on this. And here's what's really happening. If you develop some software, you have to test it. And one of the things I never worked on was voice recognition software. I worked on signature recognition analysis, but never voice. Always a very difficult thing to do. And frankly, I am shocked and amazed how good voice recognition has become. Well, it's become really good. Not because somehow computers have gotten smarter or faster, that has nothing really to do with it. voice recognition has gotten really good because people are analyzing what the computers are doing. So you, you know, breaks down the speech and tries to understand you. And you have to have a human come in afterwards, make sure that computer did it correctly. Maybe you flag something that you want people to listen to, because the person just kept asking basically the same thing and the computer couldn't recognize it. So what's going on here right now is Amazon has a team, a worldwide team, a global team. And they examine a small portion of the recordings that the Alexa has made of your commands. So Matt, for instance, how would you tell an Amazon device to tune in to the radio station this morning? Matt 4:02 Alexa, tune in to WGAN. Craig 4:07  Exactly. And so now Alexa is going to tune in and you have a great radio announcer voice. Ken 4:14  He does. Matt 4:14 Thank you, I appreciate that. Ken 4:15 Nobody says that to me clearly. Craig 4:18 So it would pick it up and it would handle it pretty darn well. But a lot of us kind of mumble and you know, our accents are there from other languages we might speak and things. So the Amazon Alexa, the workers are not sitting there listening to all of your conversations. What's happening is a very small percentage of commands just like Matt gave, are analyzed by humans to make sure it's doing the right things. And then they use that to tune up the Alexa to be able to appropriately answer questions or obey commands. Google does it with their Google Home systems, Siri does it. Apple does it with their systems, and the workers don't have your name, your email address. They don't know who you are. They have nothing personally identifiable about you. All they're trying to do is make the speech recognition better. And they also if they hear something that might be considered suspicious, they do nothing with it, because they have no context. So people have been worried about that, too. And I can tell you, and you know, as an emergency medical professional for 10 years, I was a mandated reporter. And we had to report things that we thought were suspicious. Well, different people have different levels of suspicion. And we saw that in Blue Bloods, I love Blue Bloods on TV here this last week, where you have a woman who is there in a park and doesn't like the way another mother is talking to her and teasing her about this other mother's baby and stuff. So she reports it to the police and everything. So there's different levels of suspicion. And all you're hearing, when you're examining this, when this team is listening to the audio, is a 10 second snippet, a maximum of 30 seconds that you can't really tell what's going on. So don't worry about it. Yeah, they have it. Yeah, they're keeping it Yeah, they're analyzing it. But it bottom line, the best of my knowledge, even though it's been called up as evidence in some court cases, it's never actually been particularly valuable, other than in divorce cases. Matt 6:32 All right, we're talking to Craig Peterson. He is our tech guru. He joins us on Wednesdays at this time to go over what's happening in the world of technology. And Craig, I rewatched The Matrix the other day. And I remember 1999, when that came out, which is now 20 years ago, my god in heaven, that it sparked a number of conversations between college philosophy majors about whether or not it was something that would show us that we actually did already live inside a simulation and whether or not The Matrix was real, and the movie was kind of showing us that reality, and so on and so forth. But this conversation is rearing its ugly head yet again, because there's an argument being made right now that we are, in fact, living in a simulation. So Craig, I guess my question to you is, am I currently plugged into a computer somewhere living my life as a simulation? Craig 7:17 Yeah, it's a real interesting question. Oh, my gosh, I got into this in some detail on my podcast, too, because this is something that's fascinated me for at least 25 years before it came out, The Matrix came out. Do you remember the same time? Do you remember two more movies that came out in 98, 99? The 13th Floor and Dark City? Matt 7:38   I remember both of those movies. Craig 7:40 Yeah. All kind of the same thing. Well, here's the bottom line on all this. I'll make this pretty quick. We could go on for hours. But the basic thinking is, we have virtual reality right now. I'm sure Ken uses it every day as he's playing his video games, right. And it's getting better and better as we go forward. At some point, this is going to be better than, well, it's much better than today. But it's going to be as good as the real world you won't be able to distinguish the real world from not it was even in the fifth, The 5th Day, right? Or The 6th Day. What was that Schwarzenegger movie? Matt 8:22 I think it was the 6th Day wasn't it? Craig 8:24  6th Day. Matt 8:26  And I remember when we're talking about. Yeah. Not a lot of people remember that Arnold Schwarzenegger movie, Craig 8:28 Well, the guy had a virtual girlfriend. Matt 8:30  Correct. Craig 8:30  So it gets to that point. And our computers are fast enough to be able to simulate people just like they did in these movies, then what's to say that some history major doesn't create a program that spins up a society from 500, a thousand years ago, and lets the program run. Lets things happen within the program, to try and see how people might have acted a thousand years ago, or changing things just a little bit here or there. What would happen? Well, if any of that is possible, and it is all possible, there's no question and then it'll be extremely possible in another, certainly within 50 years, some people are saying 20 or 30 years, then what are the odds that what we are experiencing is real? And in other words, if there was one society that went all the way past where we're at to indistinguishable virtual reality, to be able to create virtual reality, civilizations, what are the odds that we are that initial civilization, and not one of millions of likely virtual civilizations in the future? And so this is from an MIT science as he just came out with a book called The simulation hypothesis. There are quite a few books out about the same topic, but I love that, that title. And he is a computer scientist, Video game developer. He leads the Playlabs at MIT. And I'm assuming it's a he. Yeah, it is a he. Rizwan Virk. R-I-Z-W-A-N Virk. So if he's right, what does it mean to us? Does it matter? You know, does it all of a sudden change our lives in any way? They the answer's no. It's very interesting to think about that though, I agree with you Matt. Ken 10:28 We are talking to our tech guru, Craig Peterson, who joins us every week at this time. 7:30 every Wednesdays. And you can go to http://CraigPeterson.com and get all this news all the time. Before we let you go, are you telling me now that my cars watching what I'm doing? I mean, I have no privacy in my car? Craig 10:47   None whatsoever. Matt 10:49 You don't have any privacy anywhere Ken.  Unknown 10:51 I guess so. Matt 10:52 This is America in 2019. Craig 10:54 Well, you know, when you're really good looking Matt, everyone's watching. Ken 10:54 Exactly, really? Craig 10:55  Yeah. Yeah, I've heard that anyways. Well, I didn't realize this statistic. But cars now are capable, because really, it's just a computer on wheels. In fact, that's not even true. It is 20 to 30, at least computers on wheels in your car. And it can generate about 25 gigabytes of data every hour. Four terabytes a day. And they're saying that in another 10 years, that data from our cars is going to be worth almost a trillion dollars. So the big question out there right now is who owns that data from our cars and and how private is it going to be? Because when we take our cars, and even now, they are plugged into a network and able for instance, with Mercedes, they have engineers in Germany, that examine the data in your car to try and figure out if there's any issues, things you might not be aware of. Acura is doing some of those same things, many high end car brands are doing it and even lower end car brand are set up right now to plug your car into their computers, collect data and do some analysis. So who owns it? How private should it be? Could it be at this point in Europe, they have some laws that that aren't specifically about this, but the GDPR does kind of cover it. California has a lot that goes into effect next year. And that law is going to try and keep this private information private. But as much as 10 years ago, I know speaking of Decarie expressway in Montreal, I know in Montreal on Sherbrooke, they pulled a car over because people had reported it as speeding. The police didn't see it speed, but they pulled it over. They plugged a reader into that port in your car. And it reported that the car had within the last 10 minutes been doing 70 miles an hour on a city street and they issued a  ticket. So things to think about and maybe look forward to hear guys. Matt 13:06  All right. Craig Peterson, our tech guru joins us at this time every Wednesday. Appreciate it Craig as always. And we will talk to you again next week, sir. Craig 13:15 Take care, guys. Bye Bye. Ken 13:16 Thanks, Craig. Craig 13:24 And I'll be back tomorrow. Take care guys. Bye bye. --- More stories and tech updates at: www.craigpeterson.com Don't miss an episode from Craig. 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Craig Baute founded Creative Density in 2011 after helping start a coworking community in Toronto. He now sits on the board of the national coworking association, Coshare, founded Denver Coworks and is a consultant and partner for future coworking spaces. In 2008 he discovered the benefits of coworking while being a remote market researcher for a Chicago company and living in Grand Rapids, Michigan where he learned about movement. Prior to opening Creative Density, he was a market researcher and strategist for new products. He has an MBA from Grand Valley State University where he focused on international markets and has recently lived in Australia, Hungary, and Canada. Craig is now focusing on helping the coworking movement grow in a variety of forms. His passion is to help use coworking as a form of economic development in small towns throughout America and internationally. What made Craig go off on his own? (0:59) Graduating during the height of the recession was the driving factor for Craig, and what motivated the choice to go out on his own. How did you get to the co-working space (1:19) In Michigan, Craig noticed that there were a large number of manufacturers that supplied 60% of the world's furniture. It was these manufacturers that started their own co-working spaces throughout grand rapids as a way to beta test various pieces of furniture. Craig was remotely working at the time and decided to join one of these co-working spaces. After struggling to get a job, Craig was offered an opportunity to start his own co-working space with an associate out in Toronto. However, running into some issues with the Canadian government about his citizen status, he decided to bring his co-working business plan back to America. After a lot of research, Creative Density was started in Denver Colorado. Opening up a podcast studio space (6:52) For the first two months, Craig felt like opening up the podcast space was an ideal way to waste two thousand dollars. Craig says that the last two months, they have experienced real traction, with six podcasters using the space on a regular basis He feels that this has really become an affordable resource for people to stop making excuses and start doing a podcast. Craig expresses how exciting it is for him to listen to shows that were recorded in the very studio that he provides. What made Craig decide to invest the $2000 in the podcasting space? (7:49) Craig explains that deciding on the podcast studio was not based on a specific strategy or goal. For him, it was more about having the additional money to spend and wanting to do something cool and new that would spark the creativity of the community. Craig also mentioned that he has been an avid podcast listener since 2004, which also played a role in deciding to invest in the studio. His vision for creative density was that it was never meant to be just an office space, he wanted people to come together and create. What’s next for Creative Density? (12:00) Craig says that there are definite plans for expansion, as they are about to open number three. He also mentions that they are currently going into a operations management contract / quasi- franchise. Craig explains that they will be helping people who want to establish a co-working community. He mentions how the co-working space market has shifted, moving from an average of 10 000 square feet spaces to an an average of 27,000 square feet. So Craig will be helping other space owners by partnering with them, it remains their space, so it’s a “Powerd by Creative Density” space. What do you recommend for somebody in Denver who wants to get into the community of business owners? (24:42) Craig explains that breaking into the community of business owners is much easier if you have done something. He uses recharging scooters as an example, something which people are normally amazed to hear that he does. Craig also tells us about the research he has done related to renting out cars on Turo, which is basically an Airbnb for cars. He states that doing something that makes you interesting to other business owners is his advice for breaking into the community of business owners. Craig says it is key to stop making excuses and start doing something.

Craig is on the WGAN Morning News with Ken and Matt. Joe Reagan sitting in for Ken this morning. They talked about the new cameras that can spot a shoplifter even before the steal something. They also discussed autonomous cars and their impact and risks. These and more tech tips, news, and updates visit - CraigPeterson.com --- Related Articles: These Cameras Can Spot Shoplifters Even Before They Steal Automakers Could Give Police Control Over Your Self-Driving Car Self-Driving Cars Might Kill Auto Insurance As We Know It --- Transcript: Below is a rush transcript of this segment, it might contain errors. Airing date: 03/13/2019 Artificial Intelligence Our Safety And Privacy Craig Peterson 0:00 Hey, good morning everybody. Craig Peterson here on this morning with WGAN. Ken was out. So we had Joe Reagan in this morning along with Matt and we had a little bit of chat about a couple of things. The new AI stuff, Joe had some interesting points today. I enjoyed having him on. But AI and what does it mean to us when from soup to nuts here shopping, police, our cars, etc. so here we go with the guys over at Maine's number one morning show. Matt Gagnon 0:36 And we're back again. 7:37 on the WGAN Morning News with Ken and Matt. Joe Reagan is in for Ken today and Craig Peterson is on the line with us as he would be typically on 7:38 on a Wednesday. So Craig, are you this morning? Craig 0:50 Hey, I'm doing good, Matt. What? 737 once you just leave it alone. Come on, guys. Matt 0:55 Sorry. I know. A little early this time. So anyway, let's start with our technology topics. Of course. As always, sir, I think the first one I'd like to deal with frankly, is is cameras, right. Spotting shoplifters before they even steal. So basically, we're talking about what Minority Report here they get, like future future crimes, pre cognition. The cameras are basically I assumed, you know, keeping tabs on people and can predict when they're gonna steal what's happening here? Craig 1:26 Yeah, this is part of an overall trend that we've been seeing over the last year or two. We have had in London, of course, we know right, it's the most surveilled city in the world. They are tracking you everywhere you go. They're using facial recognition. And they are using it also to listen listen for bullets been fired, we have that New York City as well. They know instantly when a gun is fired, where was fired, we have now software that's being used by many every major city in the Western world now, that is predicting where crimes are going to be taking place. And in all of these cases, it's kind of ok, still, right? Because basically, if there's an area of the tide crime, you want the police there, right. And it's kind of a normal thing. Now, we also have California doing yet another wacky thing, which is instead of having to go in front of a some form of a magistrate or judge to get bail, and then you post bail, and you can get out assuming you're not a big risk to the community or flight risk. California has decided that they want to get rid of bail bondsmen entirely. And they just want a computer program to decide who gets to get out on on basically on bail. And it's it's really concerning now, as we give more and more power to computer systems which just aren't fallible, if he wants to any Wi Fi show, right. You know, that's true. Matt 3:07 Bad idea. Joe Reagan 3:07 And then great. You know, one thing that's come up a couple times is that when you talk about how these computer algorithms are doing this, so we talked about predictive analysis for shoplifters. A lot of that is based on correlation. And so therefore, one of the critiques of the systems is that it will it actually is discriminatory against usually racial minorities that might be at a statistically more, you know, our might be punished by criminal by crime more often. And so, it's, it's, it seems like it almost turns itself into a, I guess, a self licking ice cream cone, where it's just, you're just making it worse for people. And it's not actually doing predictive analysis in terms of someone's intentions, but actually trying to make judgments based off of past events.  Matt 3:51 I would like to see a self licking ice cream cone. I would be quite... Craig 3:56 Joe, you brought up a really good point. Do you remember Microsoft came out with this little Twitter bot that they had designed to use machine learning Joe 4:09 How can I forget? Like yesterday. Yeah. Craig 4:11  Yeah, you remember this thing? And what it did was. Matt 4:13 Yeah. Turned into Skynet in like 10 minutes.  Craig 4:18 Exactly. They had it monitor all these Twitter feeds. And what did it come back as it came back to as a nasty racist, and it was it was just crazy. Well, and your point about, you know, predictive correlation, etc. is a good one, too, because when you start looking at this in what Matt brought up here was this Japanese startup called Vaak that takes security camera footage and does predictions. So you take this and say, well, is this computer system going to turn into a racist like Microsoft computer system did because it notices that most of these crimes are committed by people who have black hoodies on that are covering the faces of black hoodies. And from a cultural standpoint, that particular type of dress is, is a minority is, is wearing that type of a dress. So now all of a sudden, the system that's supposed to be looking for general body language, general trends is now looking at someone that walks in that's dressed a certain way and automatically, bam, it's accusing them of being potential shoplifters. Now, today, what Bloomberg is reporting is this system is being designed. So that is alert security and security goes over and asks the shopper, hey, do you need some help? And that alone is enough for most cases for them to stop the potential shoplifting that might happen, which is a big deal guys. We're talking about $34 billion in retail shrinkage. It's a biggest source, in fact, to shrink. And so it's a very big deal. But my gosh, where's this all going? We get more and more of this. And we're not anywhere near artificial intelligence yet everybody. And what's going to happen everything so far as Matt pointed out is basically turned into Skynet. Matt 6:20 Yeah, absolutely. We're talking to Craig Peterson, our tech guru who joins us at this time to go over what's happening in the world of technology Okay, so another one that attracted my attention on our news list here today is the potential future in which cops can take over my self driving car obviously self driving cars are inevitable you can be terrified of it if you want to listener who's listening to this right now, but it's coming and you're gonna have to get ready for it. So when you finally are forced to drive your self-driving car when you get pulled over the cops can just like take over your car man. What's what's what's happening here. The is this like, be going to be like some sort of stealthy thing bill into all new cars. You think? Craig 7:02 Well, that's kind of where we're going right now. And you look at what happened a couple of weeks ago, in Hawaii, there was a big conference out there. And they were talking about ethics and the ethics of artificial intelligence. And one of the things they brought up was our, you know, home devices like our Alexas, our Google Home devices, etc. Should have built into them some artificial intelligence that automatically calls the police if it detects something that that just might not be a great home environment, right. As always can figure that out. We already have these really cool things that reminds me of the Fast and the Furious, these remote control little little cars that the police can use. And they drive them underneath the car of a flame suspect. And they set off a small electromagnetic pulse which disabled the engine because of course, all these new engines have computers in them. Have you seen these things? Matt and Joe 8:09  Yeah, yep. Craig 8:10 Yeah, little RC cars, and they'll do 80 miles an hour. So in that case, obviously they're damaging the cars. They just burned out the computers. And now we have people who are driving a semi autonomous cars, for instance, the Teslas and there's a lot of Teslas on the road here in Maine. And they have this kind of semi-auto pilot thing. And the idea is you can have it kind of take over the steering wheel. And while you're on the highway, it'll stay in the lanes. It'll drive down the road. And if the cars in front of you slow down, it'll slow down. It really kind of makes you a really good patron of the roads is the idea and Elon Musk has announced that come next year, he's going to have a software upgrade for the Teslas that makes them 100% autonomous. But in case now we have a couple that we know of, we have drivers that have fallen asleep. And this one case the driver as reported by Bloomberg in December last year was drunk. Fell sound asleep behind the wheel of his Tesla. His auto pilot was engaged and the police were chasing them down the freeway. I'm not sure exactly what they noticed, probably a sleeping driver. Might be something that's worth noting. And they will try to get this car to stop it couldn't wake up the the so called driver, the occupants of the vehicle and so they ended up having to box the car in. They had, you know, you get four police officers, the car has to slow down because the cars around it or slowing down came to a stop. So what do you do. The police are suggesting and Bloomberg's suggesting that maybe what should happen here is the the cops should be able to not only have the car pull over to the side of the road and stop, but they're talking about rerouting cars, as well as been able to force them to pull over. So I don't know, Matt, maybe when you're driving that car down the road, the police will just do that. Let's say Hey, take you right to the local police station. And because you're under arrest and all the doors locked. Matt 10:24 So you're suggesting to me that is that the whole OJ chase thing in 1991 or whatever is the thing of the past. We'll never see that again. Craig 10:31 Yeah, exactly. When was the last night you fell drunk on the road? Joe  10:36 Well, you know that reason is your question because whether you're talking about a vehicle that is fully autonomous or partially autonomous, it raises questions, and this is one of the insurance industry has dealt with for some time is how do you deal with damage that's incurred from mechanical issues, whether that be a computer glitch, or some sort of actual mechanical glitch where the operator may or may not be 100% responsible for something that's happens, I get it soon. This is really changing the dynamic of of how the insurance companies using auto insurance, Craig 11:06 it will in this case, when you're talking about that, Joe, you were talking about 90% of the risk, because right now, 90% of the accidents when they've been been investigated afterwards were attributed to some form of human error. So if you get rid of that 90%, if it's no longer the human who's driving who is causing the accident, or at least a large contributor to the accident, where does that liability go? Because, again, human or you know, involvement here, right? Human risk from the driver? Well, there are humans and I'm assuming I, you know, I got a little implication for what you're saying. I'm assuming that you're also including the humans that wrote to the software. You know, they don't go after the guy that designed the switch that failed on the car. And that caused, you know, I just contributing to an accident. They don't do that nowadays, right? They might go after the manufacturer, they might try and get a recall on the car, get that switch replaced, get that switch repaired. But that guy that misdesigned the switch doesn't go to jail doesn't face criminal charges. What's the future going to hold when now we don't even have most of these car companies making their own software, Apple got rid of their autonomous vehicle division, at least the guys that were going to make the cars and they've decided they're going to make the software so they're not going to make all of the software there's already dozens of computers in modern cars. There's a lot of different software, a lot of different companies. Joe, my gosh, your head's going to explode when you get right down to it and think about where does a liability go? Who has to get insured? How long is this stuff going to get tied up in the courts and you know, Washington DC in state courts and and legislatures. This is this is the hugest part of this huge new problem we're going to be facing with autonomous vehicles. All right. Matt 13:16 Craig Peterson, our tech guru joins us at this time to go over the world of technology every Wednesday and today is no exception. Craig appreciate it as always, and we will talk to you again next week. Craig 13:26 Hey gentlemen, take care. --- More stories and tech updates at: www.craigpeterson.com Don't miss an episode from Craig. Subscribe and give us a rating: www.craigpeterson.com/itunes Follow me on Twitter for the latest in tech at: www.twitter.com/craigpeterson For questions, call or text: 855-385-5553

Craig is with Ken and Phil, with Phil Harriman covering for Matt. They talked about smart assistants' ethical code, China mapping pigs' faces, and can you trust online reviews? These and more tech tips, news, and updates visit - CraigPeterson.com --- Related Articles: Alexa, Call The Police! Smart Assistants Should Come With A ‘Moral Ai’ To Decide Whether To Report Their Owners For Breaking The Law, Experts Say Can You Trust Online Reviews? Here’s How To Find The Fakes China’s Tech Firms Are Mapping Pig Faces ---   Transcript: Below is a rush transcript of this segment, it might contain errors. Airing date: 03/06/2019 Moral Artificial Intelligence - China Mapping Pig Faces - Trusting Online Reviews Craig Peterson 0:00 Hey, good morning, everybody. Craig Peterson here. I had fun this morning, I was on with Ken Altshuler, and he had a guest host in with him Phil Harriman, he's a former senator there in the state of Maine. And we talked about a couple of things. And, and I managed to rip him a bit. He's a big time supporter of left wing causes. I don't want to call him a Democrat because he's not really a Democrat. But you know, I got to rip him this morning, we talked about smart assistance and whether or not they should have a moral artificial intelligence and we got into the Chinese tech firms mapping pig faces this morning. It was really kind of fun. You gotta listen anyhow, hope you're having a great day as well. And we did talk a little bit about online reviews, but not as much as yesterday with Jim so here we go. Ken Altshuler 0:53  Always on a Wednesday morning at 7:38. We welcome in our tech guru Craig Peterson. Good morning to you Craig. Craig 1:02  Hey good morning. Yeah I'm a little clogged up myself this morning I was just coughing and hacking. Oh my. That time of the year. Ken 1:10 New England March isn't the weather like 20 degrees below what it's supposed to be? Craig 1:15 I thought it was global warming. Is it not Ken? Ken 1:20  It is. No, it's climate change. Climate change. Craig 1:24 Oh so when global warming doesn't work that it becomes climate Ken 1:28  Correct Phil Harriman 1:28 No no no no. Its extreme weather. Ken 1:32 Yes exactly. Extreme weather. Highs and lows and bad hurricanes, bad tornadoes. Craig 1:37 Here in Maine, I'm a firm believer in climate change. Absolutely. We have four seasons at least every year. That's four times a climate changes. Ken 1:46  In Maine we have two seasons Craig, winter and Fourth of July.  Craig 1:51 That's road repair and winter. Ken 1:55  Exactly. So let's talk about some tests. So I have as you know, Craig, Alexa. And let me, for all you people listening out there, Alexa, pay attention. So we do something with these smart assistants that kind of have a moral code to follow?  Craig 2:05 Yeah, this is real interesting stuff. And I'm not sure exactly which side of this I come down on. We've heard a lot about artificial intelligence, right? It's been kind of the bane of science fiction writers for ever. Now the carbon project in the early 60s, a big movie that was out all the way through today. And of course, even before that, but artificial intelligence. The whole idea is that our computers are going to be smart enough to learn by themselves make decisions by themselves. And today we have really no artificial intelligence per se, but we do have what's called machine learning. Where are our computers etc. can learn your iPhone your newer iPhones have a machine learning chip built into them. And that helps them learn a little bit about you. And every time you use your Alexa or use your Google Home device, it's learning a little bit more about you and what you do and how you do it. So it's coming. It's kind of inevitable, we think and nothing's past what's called the Turing test yet for those of us that are a little more geeky about this but when we're talking about our Alexa there's been a proposal that comes out obviously it makes sense to have your Alexa be able to call the police, it can call your friends anybody that's in your phone book. My granddaughter used an Alexa we got for them just the other day. She was stuck outside the house she locked herself out. And we had an Amazon Alexa in the house that we've given them and she went ahead and yelled through the window Alexa, call mom and of course it did. And Mom said call me back. This is a bad connection. No, no, no, like outside the house until mom knew. And she managed to get home with the key and was able to to let my granddaughter in. Those are all really good things. But we've got some scientists now over in Norway at the University of Bergen spore just speaking last week at a conference out in Hawaii and they were saying that what should happen well they're saying all of our smart devices should listen to what's going on in a home and then use artificial intelligence to determine if maybe they should report the goings on in the home to the police, child Family Services etc etc. And this is at a conference of ethics and society in Hawaii. You know Ken when you you're talking about Orwellian I can't think of anything more Orwellian than this. Where we have been putting these devices into our homes into our cars now pretty much everywhere in our phones and they're talking about turning them into spies for who, right? How far can this go? I don't know Phil and Ken. This really scares me. Phil 5:36 Well just listening to you describe the power in a device in your home could have is frightening and in I would assume this has got a an onboarding or in boarding opportunity as well meaning that they can put things into your system that gets communicated into the house or control things that are in your house that you know that you have no influence over? Craig 5:54  Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, they could and they can upgrade them. For instance, Google just got nailed because they've been selling this home security device, and no one knew that Google had hidden inside of it a microphone that Google just activated this month. So it's, it's really, really scary. And we're talking about an ethical conflict here between people in the family, you know, between mom and dad in the kid, you know what happens when the kid is reaching up to grab a hot pot of water off of the stove, and mom screams at that the kid this is legitimately and now that little device in your home makes an ethical moral decision and report you to the police along with all of the recordings that devices made of anytime that device thinks, well, this was marginal, but it's not enough to call the police. And now all of a sudden the police have completely out of context, all of this stuff that makes you look really, really bad, you know, and then the ethical conflicts between not only the members of family, but the manufacturer, the shareholders, the manufacturers, programmers, the police department, and, and having these universities say yes, indeed we should have them recording and having other people jump on board and agree with them. I think we were in for some rough road. But take that to our cars, right. And in in Maine, we've got some of these artificial intelligence companies doing some development along with a mapping technology, much of which originated right here in Maine. Right? Who, if you're in an accident, whose fault is it? Is it yours? Because you own the car? Is it the people who wrote the software? Is it the car manufacturer who hired the people who hired the company that hired the people that wrote the software, you know, Ken, man maybe you should get out of the family lawn into some of the ethical law because for the next 20 to 50 years things are going to be just crazy in that side of the business. Ken 8:07 We're talking to Craig Peterson, our tech guru. Phil 8:08  Big Brother. Ken 8:09  What are you talking about? Phil 8:10  It was just frightening what he's saying. Craig 8:14 BOC's on board. I'm sure so it'll be okay. Ken 8:19 Is there a reason why you guys are ganging up on me today? Phil 8:24 Yeah. Because I like you. Ken 8:26 I think she does a very nice dance on rooftops. That's all I want to say. We're joined by Craig Peterson our tech guru who joins us Wednesdays at 7:38. Online reviews. Now, I went the other day to buy a wrist brace for my right wrist. I have something when I played piqua. And, you know, I went to read the reviews because how else do I know which of these products have good? I mean, I assume that those reviews were accurate? Not necessarily, huh? Craig 8:53  Yeah, the legitimacy of these things comes into question and it can be a very, very big deal because we're using them all the time I use them on Yelp. I I go into a new town, I'm I'm traveling somewhere. And I just sought my Yelp app and say, you know, where's the nice restaurants in the area? And how about you guys? What do you do? Do I tend to not trust reviews? When it's like, one or two? or five? Or 10, right? Ken 9:25  If it's like, if it's 400 or 500, I tend to pay attention. Craig 9:27  Yeah, exactly. And that makes sense. And there's reviews everywhere, right? Well, there are some tips of what to do, what not to do when you're looking at these reviews order to judge the veracity. And there was even a study done on this, like there's a study on everything nowadays, I think, frankly. But Amazon, Yelp, Facebook, Google, and it is easy for businesses and others to purchase hundreds of reviews within days. So there's your 400 number can you know that they can all be false. And then the other side of this is businesses will sometimes post negative reviews for their competitors which is another big problem. So when you get right down to it and looking at some of these studies and some 30% according to the study of online reviews are fake reviews. NBC News created a gardening business on Facebook they paid 168 bucks to some online websites that promise suppose positive reviews and for 168 bucks, they got 1000 the likes and a few days after that they got more than 600 5-star reviews. So I think Ken we've got to be careful about this. I personally look at the reviews I look at what's been written and how it's phrased and stuff and I try and evaluate it from that but one of the easiest things you can do to figure out if reviews or false is took at the language that's being used. Because when you do purchase the reviews, you give a sample of what you're looking for these reviewers, these fake reviewers to say. And oftentimes they'll repeat it. Phil, you ready? They'll they'll repeat it. Just like democrats repeat the morning news bites, as opposed to talking about all day long. Phil 11:27 Do you like us know, Kenny? I can't. I can't let this go any further. Without shifting gears to the China's tech firms are mapping. Wait for it. Wait for it, folks. They're mapping pig faces. Alright. Take it away. Take it away Craig. Craig 11:44 We'll make this one really quick because I know we're out of time here. But yes, there is a very big problem in China right now. And it isn't the pig farts. What we're talking about is disease. And of course there's a lot of trans-species disease stuff that can happen. Certainly with birds. Most of our flus come from birds. But in this case, here's what's happening. China, China has been using facial recognition technology for a long time to spy on its own people. They've been doing that a lot in London, as well as other places in the UK. But right now what they're trying to do is track the pig farmers because many of the small pig farms are polluting the environment. Yes, indeed, that is the truth. An AOC thing was a bit of a joke there, but polluting the environment. So they want to keep track of the pigs where they came from, what diseases they might have, and they're doing it with facial recognition technology of the pigs as well as they're listening to the pigs conversations in order to determine if a pig might be sick because apparently pigs talk differently when they're not feeling well. Phil 12:57 So Craig, as we move  on from this point forward when we refer to AOC we can also refer to KPA. Kenneth P. Altshuler. Ken 13:09 Craig Peterson joining us. He joins us, Wednesdays at 7:38. Craig, thanks for joining us. We'll talk to you next Wednesday. Craig 13:16 Hey Ken, thanks for being a good sport. It was kind of fun. Ken 13:20  I don't mind all. Thank you guys. We're gonna take a quick break. Craig 13:26 Hey, I released module three yesterday we had a great coaching call, live coaching call yesterday as well for everyone in the course. So shout out to you guys. You should have gotten Module Three, let me know if you did not. And then three, of course, we're delving into network security stuff, what you can do and how to do it. Take care guys, I'll be back tomorrow. I'm going to do a couple of security things this week on. One on Thursday, one on Friday, so keep an eye out for those as well in the podcasts. Thanks again. 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What is the dark web? What will you find in the dark web? Craig is on today on the Jim Polito show as they discussed the dark web, the pedophilia ring that a YouTuber discovered, and how Facebook uses its apps to track users. These and more tech tips, news, and updates visit - CraigPeterson.com --- Related Articles: What Is The Dark Web? How To Access It And What You’ll Find Facebook Uses Its Apps To Track Users It Thinks Could Threaten Employees And Offices Youtuber Claims Online Pedophile Ring Operates Freely On Youtube ---  Transcript: Below is a rush transcript of this segment, it might contain errors. Airing date: 02/26/2019 What Is The Dark Web - Who Created It Craig Peterson: 0:00 We had a really good webinar yesterday. Craig Peterson here for the Infragard. It's kind of cool looking at some of the patterns and what people are interested in. Yesterday, we were talking about the difference between cyber and cyber enabled crimes. Very, very hot topic. The other real hot topic that we discussed, in fact, the number one topic in the last year on the FBI Infragard webinars I've been running. The number one topic has been dark web. And that's kind of interesting, because that's what we talked about today with Jim Polito. Some history here behind the dark web. And why did the government create this thing? So here we go with Mr. Polito. Unknown 0:47 The man who knows it all our good friend and Tech Talk guru Craig Peterson. Good morning, sir. Unknown 0:55 Hey, good morning, Jim. How y'all? Unknown 0:58 You're from Canada. Don't say y'all just just because you travel the country frequently. Unknown 1:07 Isn't this the deep south? Isn't that how y'all talk down here Unknown 1:09 For you technically it's the deep south. Unknown 1:12 Yeah Unknown 1:14 Speaking of the deep south, let's see Facebook which has nothing to do with the deep south uses its app to track users it thinks could threaten employees and offices. Wait a minute. So Facebook can't you know a tell me can't the tell me whether or not a real post is actually offensive or just a lot of people complained about it. But they can tell me when there's going to be like an attack at work. And not that I'm making light of that. Unknown 1:55 It's kind of interesting. There's two interesting stories kind of along the same lines as this week. The Facebook one and then YouTube one both of which are how come they can police things they want to police but they can't police these things they don't want. Unknown 2:10 Right? Exactly good. That's what I was trying to say. But I'm not as smart as you. Unknown 2:18 It's interesting to look at. And that's a lot of interesting in one paragraph but to look at what Facebook is doing, and that is they have a whole security team that just cracking people who might who might threaten their employees or some of the physical offices. So for instance, there was a threat against their offices over in Europe. And Facebook picked on that really, really quickly. And CNBC ended up doing a story about it because they had more than a dozen former Facebook employees who said that Facebook is mining its social net Unknown 3:00 Work for threatening comments against Facebook wow some cases it uses its products which are of course the Facebook app the Facebook never use it VPN that using its products to track the location of people it believes present a credible threat now this is incredibly Big Brother-esque here bottom Yeah, yeah and Facebook's other employees are out there and you know Facebook's management is saying well listen it's only legitimate Every business has physical security. We have a physical security team why wouldn't we do it? But you know when when you get right down to a Jim. Why aren't they doing this sort of thing for threats against other people warning people about it. Why aren't they reporting all of this stuff to the local police departments? Why are they trying to do it themselves. Unknown 4:00 And why are they using their app to track these people basically without their knowledge that Facebook thinks might be a threat to themselves in this? That's where I think they really crossed the line. Unknown 4:15 Wow. Wow. We're talking with our good friend Craig Peterson, our Tech Talk guru and at the end of this segment I'll give you, well Craig will give you a number and you'll be able to get this information plus a whole lot more. Could this ever help you know I mean, is there any way that they could use this to help him in always in almost in a bit of remember the science fiction movie Minority Report where someone Yeah, predict someone was going to commit a crime and you'd be arrested before you committed the crime and... what? Unknown 5:01 Future crime became a crime in itself. If you are going to do that. Unknown 5:05 You are going to commit a crime? Yeah. Which is completely contrary to our Constitution. But all right, Craig, let's suspend disbelief here for a little bit. Could you know police use this kind of modeling to see where they may be spikes in crime? Could Facebook use the same kind of stuff? Unknown 5:26 That's why like you, you really are brilliant because you're pulling together a whole bunch of pieces. And one of the pieces that should enter into this fray here is the fact that there is already pre crime type technology in place. Then they're using it in New York City. They're using it Los Angeles. My last I heard Boston might be using this but what it is it looks at trends. It looks at social media feeds. Unknown 6:00 To try and find agitators to try and predict where a crime is going to occur and then the police departments are using that kind of pre crime information to have police officers and units and even in some cases SWAT teams on the standby in that area because this machine learning system this are you know not quite artificial intelligence is predicting crimes there so you combine that technology that already is there is already in the field with the ability of somebody like Google or Facebook is what we're talking about right now who does collect all of this information who does sell all of this information put it all into a pot and stir it and Jim it's a civil libertarians worst nightmare. Unknown 7:00 Yeah, I can see that. I mean it's like fire it's the good and the bad unfortunately you've destroyed your reputation by saying Jim you're brilliant I mean that's you know Craig we all know you're brilliant but if you're going to say that I'm brilliant people gonna say I don't know if I completely trust Craig Peterson. and his intellect i don't know if I. Unknown 7:22 Most people Jim they're not thinking it through right and that's the brilliance of brilliance is seen through just the normal short term thought process. And nowadays the average millennial has a an attention span less than that of a goldfish. We're talking five or six seconds so how would somebody like that going to think the next order through and that's where the brilliance comes in Jim in and it's absolutely necessary to think this through what's the ultimate outcome, right of this type of technology? And then look at the story on YouTube this region where we've got YouTube now ads pulled from companies like McDonald's, Disney, Grammarly. Chromebook, Purina, IKEA, Glad, GNC, Lysol. Now why did those ads get pulled? This is a story that's not really making the news but it turns out that there was a pedophilia ring, a pretty big one, a soft core pedophilia ring running on YouTube, and apparently YouTube kind of knew about it, trying to should have done something about it and absolutely didn't. So this YouTuber guy, his name's Matt Watson. Yeah, he exposed what he's calling a wormhole into this ring on the YouTube platform. He uploaded a video a week ago Sunday about all of this stuff, and it's disgusting to look at. I don't want to get into any of the details but it's right there in the open on YouTube. So you talk about Facebook tracking users is threatened Facebook and and the Facebook is insane, seemingly doing much about anything else who got YouTube now with some of the most important stuff you can imagine out in the open and it gets it so bad that advertisers have to pull their advertising to try and make YouTube do something about it. And it really makes you wonder where we're going. Unknown 10:00 Wow, we're talking with Craig Peterson. Our Tech Talk guru. At the end of this segment will give you a number you can get all this information for free. Plus other stuff when there's a crisis. I'll explain to you how you do it. There's no obligation All right, this is a question people ask me all the time and I give them a half baked explanation. But let's get it from the guy who's an expert at explaining the technical aspects of the web in a simple way that most people can understand, probably because you wrote some of the language, some of the code for the web that's still in use today. But what is the dark web? Almost sounds like that old dark shadows. That soap opera horror. So what is the dark web? Unknown 10:27 It does, doesn't it? Well, there, there are multiple parts to the internet. But you can think of it like an iceberg. The dark dark web and the business web are both the part that's underwater, in other words, is a part you don't see the internet inside businesses is bigger than the internet anyone else can see. And the number of apps in fact that are in use outside of the public curve, you are actually outnumber the number of apps available in the app store. Unknown 11:01 So so there's this huge underwater component of the iceberg when it comes to the internet. And there's really two parts to that. there's what's called the dark web. It's kind of a generic term. And believe it or not, the dark web was set up the effectively by our government and our tax dollars still maintain it. And the idea behind the dark web was how do we let people who are in these countries where there's heavy oppression in Iran, etc, etc. How do we let these militants communicate with each other and communicate with us, our military or the State Department, etc. So we developed this this dark web concept around Tor and some other technologies to allow these people to be able to communicate. Unknown 11:51 Oh wait a minute. I got it right now. So the government put this together for good and it's been taken over by the identity theft people the people you just talked about pedophilia and YouTube that's where pedophiles trade video in this dark web which was created for good and where did it, where is it ended up? Unknown 12:19 Well it is created for good it's still used for good but the overwhelming use of the dark web is really a lot of different types of criminal activity in this day and age frankly. So now there's a conundrum here for the federal government. Do do we shut this down which they can't do by the way there's no way they could shut it down because it was designed to be unsettled and shut down a Unknown 12:46 They did too good of a job you mean it was a government contract that did too good of a job. Yeah, exactly. So and they still want militants to be able to use it. So it's kind of stuck though there's a really interesting article on CSL online that I put up on my website that goes into this because not all of the dark web is bad. Not all of the tools by militants but if you do go out on to that dark web Be careful because it's easy to stumble on stuff that will make your eyeballs pop out. Unknown 13:18 Yeah. Oh the real bad stuff the really really bad stuff that people want to be able to share. It's like the back alley of the internet, isn't it? Unknown 13:33 It really is. You know, this is a place where people like Bob Kraft might find another a new massage parlor Unknown 13:46 Oh. So wrong on so many levels. But ok, I'll let it go. Unknown 13:51 We also have out there have been some of these sites like the Silk Road and things where people were buying and trading drugs and they was shut down. These people were caught. So just because it's on the dark web, just because you're using cryptocurrencies doesn't mean that the FBI or the Secret Service or other guys can track you down because they can and they do. So keep that in mind as well. It's a scary place to go. There are a lot of dark alleys out there we keep an eye on some parts of the dark web so that we know what's going on. And if there's something major that's where we find these huge cracks when when you know one of these places is broken into that's where we find that and that's what we use it for. But you know as a general rule, Jim they away from the dark web. Unknown 14:45 So, you know, teach us how to access it, which is good, but at least we know what it is and why it was created. It's kind of a back alley for the government to communicate with individuals who are in countries where they don't allow the internet and yet Then it got co opted by the bad guys all right I promised that I would give you a full well that Craig would give you a phone number and you'd be able to get this information plus a whole lot other stuff you get on Craig's list. Hey, Craigslist. Hey that's pretty good I just made a pun there well good register that yeah might be a little late. But anyway you get on Craig's mailing list. How about we say that and he sends you information without annoying you. He doesn't do it constantly. But the good thing is when there's a big problem like a big hack, he tells you what to do. And it's all free. So Craig, the number that people should text my name to is what? Unknown 15:47 It is 855-385-5553 that's 855-385-5553. Unknown 16:00 Standard data and text rates apply and again it's it's great to get the service but Craig it's better to get you in person every Tuesday here and we appreciate your time We hope you have a great day.  Thank you. Thank you to talk to you next week. --- Don't miss any episode from Craig. Visit http://CraigPeterson.com/itunes. Subscribe and give us a rating! Thanks, everyone, for listening and sharing our podcasts. We're really hitting it out of the park. This will be a great year!  More stories and tech updates at: www.craigpeterson.com Don't miss an episode from Craig. 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Craig is on with Jack Heath as they talked about the presidential candidate who is trying to fend off the unemployment riots. These and more tech tips, news, and updates visit - CraigPeterson.com --- Related Articles  --- Below is a rush transcript of this segment, it might contain errors. Airing date: 02/25/2019 Presidential Candidate And Unemployment Riots Craig Peterson 0:00 Good morning, everybody. Very, very busy putting together all of this course material. It is really kind of fun. And it's fun helping out all of these people who signed up. We're covering a bunch of things. This last weekend. We spent the whole weekend and module last week, but in together a whole set of modules real, it's one module, but it's multiple sections in the module on securing Windows devices, Macintosh devices, mobile devices, using your free tools and installing the top notch security tools, what you should use and when you should use it. So it's been a whole lot of fun. And no, we're not taking any more people into this class right now. But it's fun. I'm feeling alive. Again, this is really quite neat. A lot of work but you know, it is a whole lot of fun as well. So this morning I was on with Mr. Jack Heath, and we had a good little chat and we took a political angle to this whole presidential race and technology and what is happening out there hearing what's happening with stop and shop here in New England, which is a New England grocery store. Is this going to impact the whole country? Again, something here in New England getting pushed out, we got a presidential candidate and Volleyed. This is really something so here we go with Mr. Heath. Jack Heath 1:30 Alright, joining us now on the Auto Fair listener lines. Our regular contributor. Our Tech Talk guy, Craig Peterson joins us in the Auto Fair listener lines. Good morning, Craig. Craig 1:37 Hey, good morning. I don't know Jack if you heard about this 44 year old democrat who's running for president. And he's got a real interesting technology angle to his campaign. He's trying to fend off what he's calling the unemployment riots of that he says are on the way he said, we're in the middle of the third inning of the greatest economic and technology shift in human history is named to Andrew Yang. And he brings up an interesting point about jobs and technology and automation and where everything is going. He's trying to provide a soft landing for truckers and manufacturing workers who he believes are going to be out of work, frankly, pretty soon here. Jack. Jack 2:21 It's interesting you say that Craig early early morning I was listening and watching or reading a story that's I believe, correct me if I'm wrong, I believe, stop and shop unionized workers are potentially looking at a strike because they are in the middle of a deal. But one of the workers interviewed when asked what's their beef because they are I guess, in the retail grocery world, some of the higher paid but for example, deli workers and others, they're talking about that Stop and Shop and baggers and you know, cashiers there's so much replacement with technology, that's one reason why they're looking at possibly striking that they're, they're sort of taking their jobs and replace it with technology. Justin 3:03 I don't use those automatic checkouts. Because I feel like it's eventually that's all there will be. And if you know, I don't like if I'm running my own groceries out, you know, do I get a check at the end of the week? You know, do I get to fill out a W two? What's going on there? Jack 3:15 No, I it's funny. I liked I like to go through the human part. But But that's an interesting thing. So this person saying that we're going to see a lot of displacement and that's been talked about. Craig 3:26 Yeah, and but you know, it's always been talked about. We were worried about what would happen if all the people took care of the horses once the horseless carriage came in, but you know, Justin, ultimately, where this is going and Jack and everybody is you're not going to check out yourself. You're just going to walk around the store, pull things off the shelf and walk out of the store, because it's all going to be automated. We are. Jack Unknown 3:48 That's what Amazon's trying to do, right. Craig 3:50 Yeah, exactly. And we're talking about nearly 10,000 of the 15,000 members of the Union there at Stop and Shop devoted to the would strike because of that. So it's a difficult thing. We've always had this with new technology. I don't think it's going away. And frankly, Jack, I think it's interesting that it's entered into the whole presidential race.  Jack 4:14  Interesting. All right. Well, and you know, the other thing I was thinking of you on this morning, Craig Peterson with Tech Talk is, you know, again, another big another big story is Karen Curtis with a local news talk, radio station and Florida pelt. Palm Beach has joined us saying for Robert Kraft, the Patriots owner, it's a misdemeanor in Florida what he's charged with, but it's a PR nightmare. And the social media coming out of this on Friday over the weekend. And I looked at some of the Florida, the Jupiter and that area, new sites. The social media is where the real fire comes from these stories. Craig 4:48 it does in it. And that's impossible to crouch. It doesn't matter how rich you are, you know, you can't go pay off some local reporter to try and keep it down or maybe work with the local police department. Once that word gets out. Jack on the social media, there's a lot of people that just love to tear other people down. There's no way to stop it. But you know it it is a small misdemeanor, frankly, it's illegal, it's a crime, etc, etc. But normally, something like this would not get a whole lot of attention. You know, you mentioned earlier that the PR is where he's really going to get nailed here. But when it comes to social media, it doesn't matter. You know, we've heard just a rumor of a rumor and it spreads across the country versus the old days where it took something really substantial before there. There was much talk in the media. Jack 5:40 Before the newspaper was read are delivered. might have been a few weeks before you'd hear something or a few days now. It's a few seconds. Thank you, Craig Peterson Tech Talk. http://CraigPeterson/.om. Thanks Craig. Craig 5:52 Thanks, Jack. Craig 5:53 All right. That's it for today. I will be back tomorrow with of course, Jim Polito. I always have so much fun on with him, and will will also on Wednesday. Be back with our friends in Maine. And then Thursday and Friday. I've been trying to do my Security Thing podcasts. But I'm so busy with this course. I've had a little bit of trouble with that. But I'm going to really try and do it this week as well. And today if you are an FBI Infragard member I have webinar for you this afternoon. So Craig's keeping busy plus I was approached by a CEO group here, mastermind group of some pretty big companies to speak to them, maybe do a half a day for them on some of the security stops. I gotta get a proposal together for that and more. Anyhow, I will talk to you guys tomorrow. Always make time for this. I think it's important. So take care. Bye bye. --- More stories and tech updates at: www.craigpeterson.com Don't miss an episode from Craig. Subscribe and give us a rating: www.craigpeterson.com/itunes Message Input: Message #techtalk Follow me on Twitter for the latest in tech at: www.twitter.com/craigpeterson For questions, call or text: 855-385-5553

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Did you see that the Internet Speeds in the US have doubled?  Yes, it is true -- Listen in as I talk with Ken and Matt about what caused this growth. Do you own a small business?  If so, you'll be interested in what I have to say to Ken and Matt about the dangers you may be facing. Been to Dulles lately? They have some new technology in place.  This morning with Ken and Matt I will discuss it and the impacts it will have in the future. Craig is putting up a new membership site (Yes, it is free, but you have to sign up)  On it will have all his special reports that he puts out and you will be the first to get them. These and more tech tips, news, and updates visit - CraigPeterson.com --- Related Articles: The End Of Net Neutrality Has Doubled Our Internet Speed Ranking! With The End Of Net-Neutrality AT&T Invests Nearly $120 Million To Boost Local Networks In Iowa Half Of Small-Businesses Believe They’re Not Cybercrime Targets New Facial Recognition System Catches First Imposter At US Airport --- Transcript: Below is a rush transcript of this segment, it might contain errors. Airing date: 09/05/2018 Internet Speeds have doubled in the US due to Net Neutrality Repeal. Small Businesses are the targets of Hackers.  Facial Recognition at Airport's first Imposter.   Craig Peterson: [00:00:00] Hey, Good Morning. Craig Peterson, Here on in Maine. I talked a little bit this morning, again, just like I did yesterday with Jim. I guess this is a big story about the U.S. Internet speed where our ranking has doubled, which is just absolutely amazing just how much faster we've gotten. And, also a little bit about AT&T and their investments into the Internet. This new facial recognition system, catching our first imposter at the airport, and we talk about how many airports it's in place. It's surprising we caught one, Half of all small businesses believe they are not Cybercrime targets, and frankly that's not a good thing. So, that's what we talked about this morning stick around here we go.  [00:00:49] Well it's that time of the week again, Craig Peterson joins us, once again, to go over what's happening in the world of technology. Craig, how are you this morning? Hey, Good Morning. Doing well. [00:00:59] So, when I went in and looked at your Web site, Craig Peterson dot com,  my internet speed is just so much better. Is this a result of the end of net neutrality? [00:01:11] Craig, Yeah well for those who don't remember, of course, net neutrality was an Obama era FCC thing, where they were trying to bring the Internet into the same rules and regulations that have been in place since the 1930s for the telephone companies. And as you know for, jeepers since the early 70s, really, what became the Internet had been pretty much unregulated and had been completely unregulated since 1991. Other than of course the Federal Trade Commission, the FTC, was regulating it and has been regulating it pretty heavily. So, we had net neutrality in place for a while, and there are a lot of people who were out there yelling and screaming that we needed it because we needed fairness, we need equal access. In other words, the kid sitting there with me in front of their computer who is playing video games streaming live all day long. Plus they've got Netflix playing over on the side and maybe they've got music playing as well and this happens and it happens quite frequently. So, they use a lot of bandwidth. They wanted it to be fair. So, he would pay the same price as the grandma who was sitting at home hoping to get an e-mail from the grandkids. You know which is of course totally crazy. And to top it all off we had you know businesses out there who wanted to get some money back from their investments into network infrastructure. So they put it in place in the very first thing that came in front of the FCC net neutrality the very first time and this was terrible. [00:02:56] That's not a good thing. It was in place because what they were doing is the FCC denied a company that wanted to give away free streaming video because it would be unfair to their competition. You know, heaven forbid you've got a startup company that wants to go up against Verizon and offer a better deal, right. So, net neutrality, absolute failure and we have the Trump administration with the new chairman of the FCC who got rid of this net neutrality thing and when they got rid of it, of course, we still had people who were out there screaming hey, we've got to we've got to put it back in place its terrible the world we're going to come to an end. The Internet never existed without the FCC regulations, of course, you know I'm kind of going a little overboard here to come up with a point, but that's basically what is happening. In fact, it has gotten so bad that the chairman of the FCC has had to get armed protection for himself because of the death threats and armed protection for his kids. So, now we've got people like Ken out there who are we have noticed something which is since the repeal of net neutrality took effect just this spring. [00:04:14] The internet has a ranking of the U.S. and the Internet has changed. The Internet has sped up in the U.S. and the U.S. has gone from being the twelfth fastest Internet in the world, average, average speed to people's homes so, we were 12th. And since this spring since net neutrality went away we're now the six fastest Internet in the world. We've basically halved our rank which is a very good thing. AT&T is investing nearly 120 million dollars just in Iowa to improve their network. So, now the businesses know they can get their money back out of it. That they can charge the kid sitting there using up all of their bandwidth. That they can charge Netflix, that's using half of the Internet bandwidth, at times, in the U.S. That the backbone carriers who have paid for the infrastructure can say hey Netflix you owe money, in order for us to carry all of these movies for everyone. Now, that's in place, we've got companies reinvesting in the Internet. We're seeing internet speeds improving and we're also seeing improvements for consumers. I just switched my mobile phone plan, my cell plan. I've had the same company for about 20 years now and I switched it because I'm now getting twice the speed for half of the cost.  [00:05:38] And with net neutrality, in place it would have had to get permission from the FCC to lower their prices or to improve their performance or speed. So, thank goodness it's gone. I predicted this would be the case. if it did go in place and if it was removed. So, it is great. I know there's a lot of people who don't like it, and I want to warn those people who are more on the conservative side, who are now starting to call for more regulation of the Internet, because of what's been happening with Facebook and Twitter and other places where they are apparently censoring some of the conservative speech. So, we've got conservatives now out there saying oh we've got to have this regulation in place including just yesterday the new chairman of the FCC the guy that got rid of net neutrality really seem a kind of a personal statement if you will saying hey listen we may have to regulate the MAGAF companies. You know again Microsoft and Amazon Google Apple and Facebook we may have to regulate those companies because they are not treating all information fairly. So, it is kind of interesting here is the pendulum sways. Maybe, that should be a name of a new soap opera or something guys. [00:07:02] Craig Peterson, our tech guru, joins us right now to give us an eye on the world of technology and before I move onto the next topic I should mention, speaking of net neutrality and whatnots, Ajit Pai, is going to be here, next Friday, coming to an event at the Maine Heritage Policy Center. So, if anybody's interested in that, Maine policy dot org, ladies and gentlemen Not interested. Yes, I know you're not. But maybe the great crowd out there listening to this might be. So Craig, now that I've done my little disclaimer.  [00:07:26] Yeah, he's the FCC chairman for those who didn't know who that was. [00:07:29] Correct. Basically, the one who is responsible for killing it, killing net neutrality, in the first place. So, anyway moving on to other topics. You know, if I were a small business owner right now I may be, I might be a target for cybercrime, but I'm just a small fish, right. So, I'm probably not. Am I wrong about that? [00:07:50] That's one of the things that you hear all the time isn't it. No. I would say go after me. Why did Willie Sutton rob banks? Because that's where the money was. And, so many people are assuming that the bad guys are going after the big businesses which they are, and they are going after the banks online trying to hack them. They're trying to break into their networks into the computers get all kinds of information. But the big banks and the big businesses can afford to do security and do security right. And, now they are spending money on that. They're spending real money on trying to keep things secure, while small businesses and the home users don't have that money. So, where are they going to go. Well obviously, they're still going to hit some small people and you know in their homes. But, now the FBI is saying that small businesses are the biggest target, right now for the bad guys, for hackers. And, unfortunately, a lot of small business people are thinking that they're really not going to be coming after me. But, when you look at the numbers that are involved here, where an average hack can cost 130,000 dollars. We just picked up a client that had been hacked and they lost 180,000 dollars in cash. So, you know you've got to be careful business owners, just like you were indicating Matt, Don't think they are the target but they are the target. And, you've got to start using real multifactor authentication or two-factor authentication for your business e-mail accounts because that's where they're usually going to ask you, they're using something called a business email compromise. It's something the FBI has been warning a lot about. It's something that's been very effective and very cost effective for them and unfortunately has literally stolen the livelihood and the businesses, that people are working their whole lives for. It's been stolen from them. So, it's a big deal. Don't think that just because you're a small business you're not a target. Because in fact, you are the target.  [00:10:03] We're talking to our tech guru, who joins us Wednesdays at seven thirty-eight. So, facial-recognition which works on my iPhone really well. Is it becoming more viable for security issues in airports? [00:10:18] Yeah. What's in your iPhone is really interesting because it's close up. It's able to measure multiple points on your face simultaneously, to figure out if it's really you. And, by the way, Apple's expected to release some more information about their phones coming up here, next week. But, yeah facial recognition is interesting when you're talking about it for a crowd. We've used it at major events, major sporting events for about a decade now. And, we've had a lot of false positives which is OK, because it was new technology and the police understood that. What I'm concerned about is in the future. What happens when people are falsely identified, as well? Well, down in Washington D.C. Their main airport down there which is Washington Dulles is now using an interesting form of facial recognition. What they're doing is the computer looks at their passport photo and is able to use that photo without training like you have to train your iPhone, right. [00:11:26] Can you see your face Yeah exactly. [00:11:31] This is just training? So, he presented a French passport as his I.D. the computer scanned it. The computer used a camera that's sitting there. And, they do film all of your interactions at these international airports and was able to identify a man with a fake passport, just using this new facial recognition system. So, you can expect this is going to grow as time goes on is going to be used more and more. There are 14 airports, right now, using facial recognition technology. It is being used to help screen these people and this was the very first one ever caught using facial recognition and it was just a couple of weeks ago. So, it's kind of interesting and we're going to see more of it, as time goes on. [00:12:17] All right Craig Peterson, our tech guru, joins us at this time every Wednesday to give us technology around the world. Craig, thank you very much, sir. We will talk again next Wednesday. [00:12:27] Hey, thanks, gentlemen. Take care. All right. --- Don't miss any episode from Craig. Visit http://CraigPeterson.com/itunes. Subscribe and give us a rating! Thanks, everyone, for listening and sharing our podcasts. We're really hitting it out of the park. This will be a great year!  --- More stories and tech updates at: www.craigpeterson.com Don't miss an episode from Craig. Subscribe and give us a rating: www.craigpeterson.com/itunes Follow me on Twitter for the latest in tech at: www.twitter.com/craigpeterson For questions, call or text: 855-385-5553  

Find out how an 11-year-old girl changed the results of Florida's presidential vote as Craig talks with Matt and Joe on the WGAN Morning News.   These and more tech tips, news, and updates visit - CraigPeterson.com --- Related Articles: Hippies Are Going To End Up Killing Us All! How China Will Win The Deadly Race For AI Weapons Election Systems Are So Insecure, That Even An 11-Year-Old Changed The Results Of Florida’s Presidential Vote. --- Transcript: Below is a rush transcript of this segment, it might contain errors. Airing date: 08/29/2018 Hippies Could Kill Us All - How To Make Elections Safer   Craig Peterson: 0:00 Hey good morning everybody. Here in the northeast, we are going through a heat wave three H's hazy, hot and humid. Now I know I mentioned this on the FBI webinar I did yesterday I mentioned how hot it was and we're miserable because it's in the 90s and it's humid and poor us and I got notes from people in gas Dallas is hotter than even Houston this year more miserable down there so I get it but for us this is really hot, okay and I'm not really happy about this but you know falls coming that's my favorite time of year I love fall up here in the northeast up in New Hampshire it's just beautiful. So today I was on with Ken was out. So it wasn't Ken and Matt, it was Joe and Matt today. And we talked about two things really, we talked about the hippies in Berkeley and the Bay Area out there and how they are now putting all of our lives at risk. This is a very real threat. So we talked about it and get into some detail and then we get into a little bit about hacking and where things are going and what's happening with our voting system. Because of course, we got a route midterm and then a midterm primaries first. And then the general big election coming up in a couple of years. So what happened out at DEF CON black hat, and, and it's frankly, it's a little scary sides. Oh, here we go. 1:32 Okay. It is 737 on the WGAN Morning News with Canada. We have Joe Reagan in for Ken and we have Craig Peterson, Tech Talk guru who is joining us right now to give us an eye on technology around the world. Craig, how are you?  1:46 Hey, good morning. I feel like I'm melting lately. This is kind of nasty. But last time of the year. I suppose I this is your last opportunity to get sweat out of your living room. Yes, absolutely. 1:57 And all you wouldn't look forward to is a very cold, long, cold, snowy winter. Yes. Yes. 2:03 I have a daughter right now over Norway. And she's working over there right now on a project. But anyways, she's saying that right now. She wants to send over her winter clothes because it's already about 32 degrees at night. So yeah, that's to look forward to 2:24 yesterday, just like it was yesterday. Okay. 2:26 So Craig, tell me exactly how the hippies are destroying America. 2:31 Oh, those hippies are back again. That's what you know about the military. You know about DARPA, you know that they're constantly trying to improve the technology to kind of one up bar potential enemies. And they've been doing it for a long time using military contractors and others. Right now, guys, when you're thinking about the most advanced technologies, you're probably thinking about mag AF. Right? 3:02 What you may get Microsoft, Apple, Google Amazon. And let me stop you right there. There are so many acronyms in my brain 3:13 government work, you can't start giving them new ones 3:17 like mega with an F on the end. I thought it would be easy for you. Is there a hat? I can put this on 3:27 Red Hat 3:29 Do you think about right? All these leading tech companies are kind of in the lead when it does come to the different types of technology out there. So what is the military do they go to all of those companies? And particularly, we're going to talk right now about Google. But they go to those companies and say, Hey, listen, you've got this great technology. Now, all of these companies license some of their technologies, you other people, and particularly when we're talking about Google, we've received some great technology. Look at me, Amazon now with the echo because I you guys, you know, those right, you have to have any those. 4:09 I have an echo and echo plus, I've got a tap. Yeah, no, I've got a lot of those things. 4:12 I got an echo show. And I got a couple of them. So I gave one to our granddaughter who's over in Kentucky so that we can chat with her. She can jump in anytime she wants. So I mean, Google Home, do you have Google Home or any of those devices now is now 4:28 home stuff terrifies me. 4:30 You know, a refrigerator tweeting is I don't 4:32 mind the refrigerator, tweeting. It's the security peace behind it. And having the cloud that concerns me. 4:39 Yeah, the IoT, right? The Internet of Things. We're talking about 50 billion devices within a couple of years. So that technology gets license Google, license it to other people, Amazon, license it to other people. So when the military of saying, hey, Google, you've got this really cool artificial intelligence project, and we want to use that in some of our development work every want to give it to them, some startup by contractors, you want to pay you for it, etc, etc. You would expect that to happen, right? That's a legit logical thing they license protect other people, why would they not license it to the military. So it started out with a small group of people inside Google who said, No, I don't want my work being used by the military to potentially kill people. And then it ended up being about three to 5000 people within Google who signed a petition saying, I'm going to quit my job, if you license any of this AI technology to the military. So now, we've got all of these peaceniks, which is bringing back in my mind, memories of the 60s and 70s, these hippies running around saying, No, no, no, you can't use our tech, you can't use our tech nine and I man, 5:58 but in the 60s, the government was investing heavily let me the whole purpose of Silicon Valley expanding was due to government investment in the 80s. Where did we get the internet from the army again, from the military? It was another ARPANET project, they will bring that in the internet today, right? That's right. It was the project of where they were linking universities into the military, linking them all together so they could communicate and develop stuff. It's all military, it was military funded. Heck, we even got pain from NASA, right? That does anyone tell you any more, by the way, 6:39 so that's not really a high bar to said, 6:43 Where's the snare drum there? We need to call 6:48 anyways, it's cold. It's cold room shop 6:51 shop there. So the military has long use high tax the years they're young with some 7:02 now they worked with our universities, etc. And now these hippies are saying, No, you can't use it. Now, here's the problem that's just 7:10 cots technology coming out of Google, DARPA is still doing 7:15 investigative research into those areas. 7:17 Absolutely. DARPA has not stopped doing what they've been doing. And of course, they'll know that's the Defense Advanced Research Project Agency because I have to explain some of the fly is today some of the four letter acronym 7:31 so so that's what DARPA is, yes. But the AI technology that the military was trying to license is critical. And here's why China is ahead of us right now, with at least it appears to be with some of this AI technology. And where this could ultimately lead, if it came down to war could be a very, very bad path. We I'm personally I don't think that those people inside Google are thinking this through. I don't think they realize that by not allowing the military to use the most advanced technology in the world, we are going to start falling behind. And when that happens, I personally think things could turn pretty bad ultimately. But that's where the hippies coming back. Who knew? 8:24 Well, Craig, it's a great point. I think that, you know, looking at as far as foreign policy concerned, but also the impact of technology on our voting systems. I mean, we've had a lot of conversations around the use of the Russians both influencing through social media, traditional media. But then there's also discussions around the actual threats to the physical things in which we use to vote, right. Yeah, 8:46 we just had the big conference out there in Vegas, we had the black hat and DEF CON conferences. Now, these are conferences that every year, it's kind of interesting, because they are talking about how things can be hacked. And if go to one of those conferences, you do not want to bring any electronic devices, because the likelihood is they will be hacked. I don't care what they are, they're going to get hacked out there. And one of the things that they did this year is they expanded it. Well, let me just back up a little bit. You've been to conventions before, and conferences anytime. And they've got tracks, right. So you might have the CEO track or this tracker, that track record, they do the same thing out of these hacking conferences in Vegas. And this year, they had the biggest that they've ever had voting systems online. So they took a whole bunch of wanting system, some of which are in us, in the US and throughout the US. And they put them into a room and they said, have added guys, and they had contests and of course, they were they were all hacked, right? Every one of them. And I got to say that the secretaries of state say, Hey, listen, you know, that's not the real world. Because in the real world, we have more secure networks, we have air gaps, and of course, all that defeated to the thing that's most interesting. Joe, I'm glad you brought this up from the conference here just a couple of weeks ago, is that they also had a junior section. So they had they had let him loose. I mean, kids on voting machines and an 11-year-old girl hack voting machine. And I mean, what she ended up doing was, and this is interesting, right, man, how do the results get disseminated to the press? Most of the time it's via websites, right? You check the website and you've got it. So what does this 11-year-old girl do? She had a replica of the Florida Secretary of State's website out there at Black Hat. So again, every part of this is a problem because what happens if in Washington, they're not calling up and saying I'm you're the Secretary of State for me, give me the vote tallies. What was a code word of the week change code words? I know what you so I know the numbers are legit. What happens if they go to the state of Maine's website to find out what the vote tallies are to put them together to say yes, so it's always our new next president. And in fact, all they had to do was had website had the email. So, Joe, you're dead on this is a huge, huge problem. We have not fought all the way through yet. What are some of the solutions that are being proposed, you'd like to hope that when you look at what DEF CON is trying to do, is it's trying to bring in those white hat hackers that can come in and try and identify the problems in the hope that you're gonna have solutions that are going to come out of that. I mean, are there any ways in which we can further secure the voting system or there's being discussed? Well, yeah, I think they are. I think the best way to do this is a spot audience by people. I think that you using a piece of paper where you mark down who you're voting for, you know, and most of the states that are doing the paper ballots now or are using the optical scanners and it's not, you know, it's not Paper Paper till heavier than a sheet of paper. But then the machine reads it and then the machine gives the tallies and I think what should we only way to move forward here because we're gonna have to use some of this technology but he is you have the machines read them and then you have people spot check they manually go through looking for hanging chads rice in a flashback 20 years ago, and that they look at them, they looked at the tallies, make sure everything looks fine. And then we have to have a secure way of making sure that those tallies that are coming from individual districts and counties and state or all shared properly so that we get good final numbers. That's the only way we can really trust it. I think that the recount that we have right now some states have automatic recount. So if it's close enough of a race, some don't have that. But I think we should make recount easier. So if you want to do a recount, no problem. We bring you some of your people in we will watch you guys with the balance making sure you're not doing anything phony baloney so that anyone almost can do a recount so that we can trust the final tallies. That's the only way I think that we can move forward on this job. Because the tech the tech just cannot be 100% trusted. 13:34 Well, on that happy note, Craig, I think we're done. Unfortunately, we ran out of time. So we have to leave it there, Craig, appreciate your appearance. And we will talk to you again next Wednesday. Hey, gentlemen, take care. Thanks so much. All right. We're gonna take a quick break. We'll come back on the other side. --- Don't miss any episode from Craig. Visit http://CraigPeterson.com/itunes. Subscribe and give us a rating! Thanks, everyone, for listening and sharing our podcasts. We're really hitting it out of the park. This will be a great year!  --- More stories and tech updates at: www.craigpeterson.com Don't miss an episode from Craig. 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  Have you gotten an ad from an attorney while visiting your local chiropractor?  Listen in as Ken, Matt and I discuss what I am calling twenty-first-century ambulance chasing and what it means to you. Did you hear about the new military branch, the Space Force? Matt, Ken and I discuss that and the Space Mining of Asteroids and what it means for our economy. Have you ever used one of those DNA collection companies, the ones that tell you where you came from?  If so, you'll be interested to hear Ken, Matt and I discuss the hack that happened to My Heritage and what hacks like this means to the future Find out more on CraigPeterson.com --- Related Articles: Digital Ambulance Chasers? Law Firms Send Ads To Patients’ Phones Inside ERs New asteroid gold rush ‘could earn everyone on Earth £75 billion’ US: Crypto Could Pose a Problem for Candidates Seeking Security Clearances Why a DNA data breach is much worse than a credit card leak --- Transcript: Below is a rush transcript of this segment, it might contain errors. Airing date: 06/20/2018 Ambulance Chasing Attorneys Using Geo-Fencing, Space Mining and DNA Data Breaches Craig Peterson:[00:00:00] Hey everybody, Good Morning. Craig Peterson here. Of course, you might not be listening to this in the morning. I get it, but Good Morning. Such a nice expression, isn't it. I'm glad you're joining me today. And, of course, we're going to be getting into Ken and Matt. Now we went into a little more depth than usual with them because they had some good questions. But we talked about geo-fencing and how lawyers are starting to use that, to direct ads to you. Yes, indeed the ambulance chaser goes 21st century. We'll talk about the Space Force and space mining and how in 2022 NASA's going to start a trend that frankly could destroy the entire world economy. And, a breach of one of these DNA services. This one was bad enough. But what could happen here in the future. All of that and more of course with Ken and Matt and Craig Peterson. Stick around. Here it goes. I really enjoyed it this morning. Hope you do too. Let me know Craig Peterson dot com slash iTunes. Make sure you leave rating. Hopefully I've earned a five-star rating from you and also a comment, Craig Peterson dot com slash iTunes. Here we go. [00:01:19] Ken and Matt and we have with us, as usual, Craig Peterson, our tech guru, who joins us at 738 every week. Craig, Good morning.  [00:01:27] Hey good morning. Doing well. How are the eggs. [00:01:30] I know how the politics going? Actually, got to tell you the eggs are pretty good. That's not bad. Yeah. The issues are a little suspect, but the eggs are good, so you know and what you don't have.  [00:01:41] Yeah you know, Craig, my day job, I'm an attorney and so I was wondering if there's any way I can get more business other than chasing the ambulances behind them. So, where I how can get in the ambulance itself. [00:01:56] I love it. What a segue here. How did you know that? Yeah, this is really kind of an interesting article here, and problem. If you have a smartphone you have a device that can be tracked right. We all know that if you have a dumb phone that device can be tracked as can a cell phone of any sort. But the tracking technology that's in cell phones is just astounding because they've got this GPS and the GPS allows you to find out where you are within a meter or two. Kind of depends but that's a lot of resolution. Now our devices have a facility, whether it's in Android, or it's a new iPhone or an IOS device have a facility that's called geo-fencing and Geo-fencing is where you set up an area a geography as you will and you define a kind of a virtual fence around that area. So, one of the uses for that's really nice. And parents love that is that you can set up a GPS fence for your kid’s school. You can have a geo-fence for your kid’s after-school activity, and you can have a different one for the House, and maybe yet another geo-fence for their best friend's house, and then when they are moving between all of these different places when they're going places. The smartphone that they have, is sending information, by the way, doesn't have to be a smartphone you can get little watch-type devices  [00:03:32] That is what we did for a granddaughter. Those also have a geo-fencing capability and she can make emergency calls to family members, which is really kind of cool. But, what can happen with the geofencer's, is when the kid arrives at school you're notified, when they arrive at home, or the friend's house, wherever you set up the geo-fences. Well, attorneys Ken I think might be smarter than we've given them credit for, as they should, The patients in Philadelphia now are going to start to notice something a little different. Some of the advertisers in this particular case, attorneys have set up geo-fences around clinics. We're talking about emergency rooms, chiropractor's offices, and even pain clinics. So, all of these places have been defined with geo-fences and what's going to start happening, in Philadelphia, is if you show up at one of these places you are going to start seeing ads from attorneys. So, you kind of mentioned the ambulance chaser, Ken, and that's exactly what we're talking about here right now we've got personal injury law firms are going to be using these medical clinics to target people. And then by the way it's not just like its popping up on your phone. [00:04:55] Hey, have you been injured? It's going to come up as your normal ads stream. So, if you're on there on Facebook, or you're cruising the Web, you're going to start seeing these things, and they don't stop just because you've left the area. They, in fact, will continue for as many, as much, as a few weeks. Now, this is interesting because there was a case about this, down in Mass, and Maura Healey is kind of upset about it. In a direct quote from her saying “that private medical information should not be exploited in this way.” So, she's concerned and prosecutors down in Mass reached a deal last year with an advertising firm that was sending ads from a Christian pregnancy counseling and adoption agency to people who entered a Planned Parenthood clinics. So, the people would cross this digital fence and they'd start getting advertisements that said things like, “You have choices” and “Click here for pregnancy help.” So, she came up with this deal. They agreed to it, the state called it. The Commonwealth called it a little bit unfair and deceptive and it resulted in the banishment of digital advertising. Digital advertising firm from Massachusetts. So, this is a problem. It's going to continue to get worse as more the technology advances. Yes, Ken, you don't actually have to run after the ambulance’s anymore.  [00:06:28] Oh that's good news. All right. So, I would love that way too. You have the benefit.  [00:06:36] We're talking to Craig Peterson, our tech guru, who joins us at this time every Wednesday for a look on technology.  [00:06:42] So Craig, when I join the new United States Space force, yeah, this is because I'm signing up as soon as I'm able to, probably spending a lot of time in space and if I were to, I don't know, encounter an asteroid, would I suddenly become a billionaire. [00:06:59] Wow, that's a great one. Well, first of all I think you're too tall Matt. I think there are limits on that. So, you might not be able to do it, but yeah, the next big gold rush is, in fact, in space and we've already got a number of companies. [00:07:20] There's a couple of dozen that I know of that are busy trying to get into space. So, why do you want to get up there, I think maybe Matt your, or your, question really revolves around. Does President Trump have an ulterior motive to this new space force? Right. Am I reading this right?  [00:07:39] Well I mean, is he looking to make his next few billion. [00:07:43] Yeah exactly. Maybe that's what's happening, I had not even thought of that. So, here's what's happening right now. We have these asteroids in space and you know that we've sent some satellites while some rockets by right with Rover type devices on them they've landed on asteroids have done a little bit of mining to try and figure out what they are. Well, there are all kinds of precious metals that are fairly easy to mine on asteroids. Boy, there has been a lot of science fiction written about this stuff over the years, but one of the major things that they're looking to mine from space rocks is gold. So, the world's first trillionaire. This is an interesting article came out of the U.K. and you'll see this up on my website. But the world's first trillionaire is not going to come from cryptocurrency or some other clever new APP. It looks like they might become rich from asteroid mining and that's what's really kind of interesting. Goldman Sachs is looking at this. They're saying that's what's really going to happen. And NASA's estimating the total value of asteroids, that are easily reachable from Earth, could be up to 700 quintillion dollars. So, that would mean about a hundred billion dollars for every person on earth. OK. Obviously, that's not going to happen, right. Because if you have an influx of gold, gold is going to become less valuable. The same thing is true for all of these, you know, the valuable commodities that might be out there and those asteroids. So, what we have to look at here as the winner is going to be the first one to get up there, to be able to economically grab those asteroids bring back those minerals, and start selling them. Because once it becomes cheap, the price is going to go down. [00:09:46] Look at oil, the price of oil, of course, has been a cartel for a long time over in the Middle East where they kind of control the price of oil. But, once we started fracking and it was less expensive for us to get the oil, and the extra oil the extra gas the price per barrel plummeted, it went way down, because now there was more oil. So, when there's more gold or there's other planetary resources that are just floating around out there. So, the whole value's going to drop. So, if you've been investing in gold and they start mining it, it's not going to be worth what it used to be worth. But this predicted mineral wealth is just so vast, it could destroy our world’s economy. So, that's a very, very, big deal. We've got NASA back, in 2022, is going to be launching a new mission. They’re going to a metal-rich asteroid that's estimated to be worth, this one asteroid, about twelve thousand quadrillion dollars. That one asteroid. So, boy oh boy. Talking about an economic collapse that just you could make some big bucks up there in space. But ultimately, this could really change everything here on Earth and might even drive up the value of these crypto-currencies.  [00:11:14] I'd like to see Matt go to space. Sometimes, I'm sure you would it might improve our chemistry, yeah exactly that.  [00:11:19] We are with Craig Peterson, our tech guru, who joins us on Wednesdays at 730. So, we've heard a lot about hacking and credit card hacking. DNA is kind of a definition My Heritage had some hackers breached their accounts and didn't give me DNA. But is that us. I mean, is that a serious breach something that we should be worried about. [00:11:43] Yeah, well in this case right now with My Heritage it was passwords usernames and they were basically encrypted. So, not a whole lot of trouble there but it brings up the concern about our DNA being stolen getting our DNA data back for ransom, in fact, that's already happened once, which is just absolutely amazing.  [00:12:08] We had one Indiana hospital that paid 55 Grand to hackers so that they would not release that, so, it was being held ransom. So, we've got to be very careful here.  [00:12:18] The data could be sold, on the down low, and could be monetized to  insurance companies could end up out on the web and you could in the future apply for a job that you're denied, not realizing that the company denied you because the deep dark data somewhere in the corporate system knew about your DNA and knew about your proclivity for heavy drinking or maybe some disease. And so, they didn't hire you. This is scary. This is a longer term, we don't have it happening yet, but we're freely giving our DNA, everywhere. Guess what. Those passwords that My Heritage lost, you can change your passwords. You cannot change your DNA. And in the future, this could be a very big deal. [00:13:06] All right, Craig Peterson, our tech guru, who joins us every Wednesday at this time to give us an eye on the world of technology. Thanks so much for joining us Craig, we really appreciate it. We'll talk again next week. [00:13:15] Hey gentlemen take care. Bye-Bye.Thanks. --- Don't miss any episode from Craig. Visit http://CraigPeterson.com/itunes. Subscribe and give us a rating! Thanks, everyone, for listening and sharing our podcasts. We're really hitting it out of the park. This will be a great year!  --- More stories and tech updates at: www.craigpeterson.com Don't miss an episode from Craig. Subscribe and give us a rating: www.craigpeterson.com/itunes Follow me on Twitter for the latest in tech at: www.twitter.com/craigpeterson For questions, call or text: 855-385-5553

  In the podcast episode “” I interviewed athlete, mountain climber, former collegiate and Olympic trials qualifying competitive swimmer and supplement designer Craig Dinkel about a special blood oxygenating formula called “”. After that interview, I received an onslaught of questions about everything from grass fed liver anhydrate to cordyceps senesis to hidden benefits of beetroots, the detoxification properties of algae, whether it's really true you can get all the benefits of blood doping without actually blood doping and more. So Craig came back in the podcast "", and in that podcast, we took a deep dive into the unique blood building formulation Craig has designed. Then to delve into a new supplement formulation he designed called "" and to also talk about recovery for aging athletes, cross-body patterning, a form of high intensity interval training called "HIIQT" and much more. Now Craig is back for a fourth time for a nitty-gritty, deep dive into the physiology, biochemistry and science behind his unique formulations. During our discussion, you'll discover: -Why Ben "triple-dosed" with Biotropic AFA when he came down with the flu...[7:25] -How Craig began experimenting with supplements in highschool and became a supplement knowledge powerhouse while qualifying for the Olympic Trials in swimming...[12:40] -The brutal swim workouts Craig and Ben experienced as swimmers and water polo players...[19:05] -How chlorella enhances ATP production in the absence of actual calories...[23:50] -A fringe compound that increases endurance by over 750%...[27:00] -How beetroot works to not only vasodilate arteries, but also to quell excess free radicals...[29:40] -The amazing echinacea + sauna training hack for building new red blood cells...[44:50] - The equally amazing chlorella + grounding/earthing slack for cleaning up the body during sleep...[54:25] -The hidden ingredient in watermelon that vasodilates blood and works better than the supplement arginine...[59:56] -How a component found in apples can repair muscles that have been crushed...[65:50] -And much more!   Resources from this episode: - (use code BEN30 for 30% on all three bottles or you can use code BEN for 20% discount on any single bottle) -Study:  - - - - Show Sponsors: -Onnit - To save 10% off your order, visit . -Fresh Books - FreshBooks is offering a 30 day, unrestricted free trial BGF Podcsat listeners. To claim it, just go to and enter code BEN GREENFIELD FITNESS in the “How Did You Hear About Us?” section. -Daily Burn - Visit to start your FREE sixty-day trial. -Kion Aminos - For for muscle recovery, better cognition, reduced cravings, immunity, try Kion Aminos from ! Do you have questions, thoughts or feedback for Craig or me? Leave your comments at and one of us will reply!

https://bengreenfieldfitness.com/OXCIA In the podcast episode “” I interviewed athlete, mountain climber, former collegiate and Olympic trials qualifying competitive swimmer and supplement designer Craig Dinkel about a special blood oxygenating formula called “Biotropic”. After that interview, I received an onslaught of questions about everything from grass fed liver anhydrate to cordyceps senesis to hidden benefits of beetroots, the detoxification properties of algae, whether it's really true you can get all the benefits of blood doping without actually blood doping and more. So Craig came back in the podcast "", and in that podcast, we took a deep dive into the unique blood building formulation Craig has designed. Now Craig returns for a third time to take a deep dive into a new formulation called "Oxcia", and to also talk about recovery for aging athletes, cross-body patterning, a form of high intensity interval training called "HIIQT" and much more! During our discussion, you'll discover: -A form of training called cross-body patterning, and exactly how Craig implements it...[8:10] -The difference between HIIT and High Intensity Interval Quality Training (HIIQT)...[14:10] -The machine Ben has in his office to hyperoxygenate his body and also to stimulate altitude...[23:20] -The one fruit that simulates Viagra and gives you a full body "pump"...[27:10] -How citrulline can be used to significantly enhance power and force output during exercise...[33:15] -The single component found in apples that can increase ATP production and vasodilation...[41:30] -The mushroom extract that also increases ATP and activation of lung tissue that can be combined with other vasodilators...[46:00] -And much more... Resources from this episode:  (use code “ben” to get a 20% discount and free shipping on any and all products!) - - -Article: - (use code GREENFIELD for a Pulse Oximeter Upgrade (value: $100) and free shipping (value: $125) Show Sponsors: -ZipRecruiter - Post jobs on ZipRecruiter for FREE by visiting . -HealthIQ - To learn more about life insurance for physically active people and get a free quote, go to . -Orchestra One  – and Use code BEN for 6 months of Orchestra One FREE (valued at $120) -HealthGains - Text the word "GAIN" to 313131 to receive a $150 voucher toward your first GAINSWave treatment at any of the 60 participating physicians nationwide. Or go to and click 'Find A Doctor' to locate a GAINSWave provider near you. Do you have questions, thoughts or feedback for Craig or me? Leave your comments at BenGreenfieldFitness.com and one of us will reply!

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In this episode, we chat with Nate Smith. Nate is pretty new to the entrepreneur game yet was able to 8x his business in a SINGLE year. We talk about exactly how he did that, what he learned through his experience and so much more! Resources Mentioned http://www.8020marketingguy.com/jeremy/ Want To Work With Me? Visit http://www.JeremyReeves.com or email me at Jeremy@JeremyReeves.com Enjoy! Transcript Jeremy Reeves: Hey everyone, Jeremy Reeves here back with another episode of the sales funnel mastery podcast and today I have on the line, Nate no name. I was actually just doing his intro and forgot his last name for a second. So sorry about that Nate. Nate Smith: Yeah, I think, actually I am going to go with that, it is probably better for SEO. Jeremy Reeves: Yeah, right. Nate no name. So his name is Nate Smith and Nate is a former professional musician who decided to get into online business 4 years ago. He launched his first successful product in January of last year, 2015, and since doing that has grown his profits 8 times over the course of basically of last year. So now since he has got that experience actually doing it for himself, he decided to help other entrepreneurs kind of do the same thing and earn more from their existing audiences typically by improving conversion rates of their funnels, kind of like what I do. So Nate has worked with authors such as Taylor Pearson, author of The End of Jobs and he also works with a lot of startups. So we are going to get in to all that, but before we do, Nate you know, welcome to the show and tell everybody a little bit more about yourself and a little bit about your story. Nate Smith: Yeah, thanks so much for having me and hopefully this would not devolve into me just picking your brain for an hour because I am a little bit star struck at the moment. I am talking to the man. I am talking to the conversion rate guy. So yeah, my journey is -- as Jeremy said, I was a professional musician and you know, 5 or 6 years ago I decided that I was sick of working a day job and sick of kind of playing in the same stand box as everybody else, like I had an inkling that everyone was competing for pieces of a shrinking pie, but I did not exactly know what to do yet and then through some friends and through a couple of books I read, I learned about entrepreneurship. I learned that this was a thing and I was still kind of skeptical about it, so I had read 4 Hour Work Week and then I was actually at that time considering applying to Stern Business School because I was working a day job at NYU and I am like, you know what, this whole entrepreneur stuff sounds pretty scammy, but let me just try it like an experiment and then even if it goes totally (inaudible 2:31.4) and still right about it as a case study to apply to business school. And about 2 months in I was like, hang-on a second, this might be a thing and by the end of the first 6 months, I was like, yeah, there is no way I am spending money for business school after this. But it was still another 3 years before I actually saw like money coming into my bank account in a really validating way like 4 figures just boom overnight in my back account and then you know, finally I could pay off the credit cards and it is maybe the one time in my life when the actual experience has paid off in the way that I have been anticipating for it to pay off, you know how things are, it is like you think, yeah, when I get up to this plateau, that will be amazing in the (inaudible 3:21.8) it was not really all that. So I wanted other people to feel that way so I have definitely been super bullish on turning around and helping other people get their businesses started, so you know, I am a member of a few networking groups and over the course of 2015, I was growing my business and I was trying all these things with my primary business with my course to like grow my profits. So I had realized first of all that traffic growth was just going to be a long haul, like it was going to be a slow you know, careful strategy, it was going to be content, it was going to be all these other things, but the thing at my disposal, the thing that I had control over was conversion rate. So just by like changing an email sequence or writing a better sales page or you know, here is a shocker, asking people why they did not buy things. I could make interventions to my business that would in the course of like 2 weeks, cause like multiplicative effect So it all kind of came into my head at the beginning of this year when I have been blogging about it and writing about it on the entrepreneur forums and one of my friends who has startup called Bobsled Marketing which helps founders get the products on Amazon and by the way she is booming up now. She is like, she is on track to hit 7 figures this year which is amazing, but she hired me to help her with her funnel, I was like, wow. So could this be a thing and then you know, 6 to 9 months later and a handful of clients later this is kind of what I do now. This is what I am doubling down on. So it has been a super quick journey from successful solopreneur to conversion consultant and I tried to be humble and realistic about what I actually really know and that has been a lesson. It is like what can I guarantee that I will be able to do for you and just you know, continuing to learn but also like fine honing that deliverable further consulting clients. So within the realm of the things that I have direct experience with and you know, can fairly well guarantee that they will get value from. Jeremy Reeves: Yeah, you know, and that is a good plan. I mean always, I always -- in fact, I actually just send out a proposal this morning to a guy, Torquhil if you are listening, Hi, how are you, but you know, it is Torquhil, I have never even asked him how to pronounce it. I am going to have to, but anyway, so I was talking to him, I do not know, last week or the week before about you know, kind of us working together and that kind of thing and I was kind of explaining to him that when I work with people -- that is what I do like I always look for, okay, what can I -- because there is you know, it is marketing, it is not you know, in most cases, you cannot say, okay, I am going to do this and it is 100% absolutely guaranteed going to work you know what I mean. A lot of times like me and you with paid traffic, a lot of times you think that thing is bad ass, it is going to blow up out of the water and then you launch it and it just does not, you know (inaudible 6:47.1) face. In most cases, there are parts that work, parts that do not work and overall, it either works or it does not work you know what I mean, and but I was you know, when I am working with clients too is like okay, there is going to be all this stuff and my first kind of thought in my head when I am working with some new is how do I get them. They are going to pay me X amount of dollars, just say, whatever $10 or $5 or $20 or whatever it is you know, just say $10, so alright, they are paying me $10, how do I like get that back to them as soon as humanly possible you know what I mean. And that is just you know, working with people, I would definitely recommend looking at that way like you just said, like you know, what can you do that is going to get them kind of like a guaranteed result you know what I mean and sometimes you can set up your service where the whole services like that and then other times in our case like a conversion rate optimization, it is you know, not every test wins you know what I mean. I just had let us see from (inaudible 7:48.6) there are 2 failures in a row and then the third one won you know what I mean, but it is just you know, you have to look at it as more of an overall kind of thing and then if you know, if it does not work, then you do the right thing and you know, and kind of keep going until it does get them the result you know what I mean, but yeah, sometimes it takes some testing you know. So like with that in mind, with the whole like testing and things do and do not work and it takes a while sometimes and all that, let us go back to your success like when you grew your business you know, you were doing certain things you know in the beginning and you could kind of tell us of what things were not working in the beginning and then you know so when you grew it that much last year, you know, what were some of the things that did and also did not work as you were growing like that. Nate Smith: Yeah, 100%. So between the unsuccessful products I launched and the first successful one, there were 2 things that work. Number 1 was building a content platform and in this case it was Youtube and for different verticals it is going to be a different thing. I think for a lot of business-related verticals it is still probably blogging, but so I had that kind of cache of trust and then the second thing was simple validation. So I know there are a lot of people like Ryan Levesque, who just test this down to (inaudible 9:13.3) but you do not necessarily need to be that scientific about it. I really just had a list big enough of people who already trusted me from my content and surveyed them about what it was that they wanted. What needs they have that I was not filling and I got an email that was kind of like the golden nugget which is the thing that I now like, I always hope for with clients because it is sort short cuts the whole process and if you heard it a few times so much the better but it was an email that said, why are you wasting your time trying to build X for us. Why don’t you just sell us why and I was like oh, crap, alright, that is the move. So then the next thing that I did that now I am just adamant with clients you know, I cannot guarantee results unless we do this was that I sent kind of preliminary sales letter to people like so I imagine the product in its finish state before I build the thing and we are kind of sales page for it via email. There are different words for this I think teaser is another word. Actually, I am doing this right now with Taylor Pearson but the important part was I named the price point and I said only click this link if you are interested, and so it is not 100% guarantee that people, who click the link will buy. In fact, I think probably something like 35% to 40% of the clickers eventually converted, but it will give you a quick warning if something is not going to sell before you dump a bunch of time into it. So I launched the product successful in January that was amazing, yeah it converted at about 35% or 40% of the cohort that I launched it to which just boomed me away and then the challenge became how do I make this evergreen and how do I grow it. So to sort of return to the initial question you asked which was what were the intervention levers that proved most lucrative, that moves the needle amongst all the things I tried that did not succeed. So the first one believe it or not was the copywriting and the timing of the emails in the launch sequence and the scarcity element. So scarcity obviously means you are not offering your product just permanently available on a sales page. People need to sign up at a certain time in order to participate in the launch and if they missed that opportunity then they have to wait you know, months, weeks, or whatever. People do that in different ways. A lot of people do it through sales, but I would say (inaudible 11:59.6) Jeff Walker and in more modern circles, people like (inaudible 12:05.0) and David Siteman Garland who were like, nope, I do not do sales. I will just control when people can and cannot get into my courses. So I implemented that and when I finally figured out how to do that in an evergreen way so that everyone as they subscribed through my list had an opportunity to buy based on their behavior you know, based on their engagement levels but somewhere between 2 weeks to a month after they subscribed to my list that move the needle a lot. So that was the big one. And then after that, I doubled my revenue again by putting a nurture and a re-engagement sequence. So I learned an important lesson about sales cycle and this is something folks like Dean Jackson and Joe Polish talked about all the time which is like, only a small (inaudible 12:54.8) of your people are going to (inaudible 12:56.4) and buy it right off the bat, but that does not mean that they are not eventually can buy. So I tried to get really scientific about calculating where the sweet spot of the sales cycle was, like when are most people willing to buy and after what point, what is the point of diminishing returns after which. If someone has not bought by now odds are they are never going to buy it. So I am not worried about offending them by hitting them with future sales pitches. So those two and then I think probably the final one was just sales page copywriting. So believe it or not, like for about 6 months, I just had a totally garbage sales page and you know around July or August of last year I decided -- and yeah this illustrates you know for you and for everybody how green I am still at it but you know, got to be real about it. Yeah, I decided. I need to write a sales page. So I just went to school on it you know, I just studied all of my favorite sales pages from all the lists that I was subscribed to. People were doing scarcity launches. I made sure that I participated in the launch so that I could screenshot their sales page and study it. I read you know, a few books that friends recommended on it and basically you know, locked myself in my room for an entire week and wrote a sales page and I tested it in optimizely and it was like 2x. So that was the big one. So I think those are kind of the big 3. Jeremy Reeves: Okay, got you. Yeah, and a lot of it really does like it is not -- with most of business, it is really not rocket science you know what I mean. It is not like you did some crazy things that nobody has ever heard off and you know I mean it is really just you know, you gave them a really good offer like with scarcity and all that included and you had good copy on the page and did a lot better you know. It is really not, it is not anything new. It is just you got to -- just do the work you know and get it done you know. So what was wrong with your -- cell phone is going on, I forgot to turn on silent. Actually it does on silent, and it is still going on. Nate Smith: Oh please is that an emergency. Jeremy Reeves: No my phone has been dying on me. I need a new one. I am lazy of buying cell phones. Nate Smith: (inaudible 15:18.6) they are expensive. Jeremy Reeves: Yeah, well, I am too lazy to switch it over you know what I mean which is also another good kind of marketing point. It actually comes back to scarcity you know, that is a lot of times why people respond to scarcity is because it is just, they know they need it. It is like, you know I am going to get it, I am going to get it and then it is on sale or you are getting free bonuses or it is going away or whatever and just that well, you know, you can get it now on its half price or you know, if you do not buy it now, it is not going to be available for 6 months or whatever then it gets people over the hump you know what I mean. So the phone call actually leads into a good kind of you know message. Nate Smith: Yeah, 100%. I think the scarcity and the limited opportunities to join combined with a deliverable that is on demand and sort of self-paced like this is one reason why I am so bullish on courses as deliverables right now as alternatives to say SAS or services. I think it is just a super easy way to get your value at there and let people pay for it and then get value from it on demand like Netflix or something. So (inaudible 16:36.9) if someone is on the fence and they were like yeah, you know, I may not need this for another month, but I might not have another opportunity to join for 6 months. I think that is really important element. Jeremy Reeves: Yeah. So when you were -- when you do all this -- so now you, you know, you revamp your copy. You added scarcity in there, everything you just talked about and then so what did you do for on a traffic side of things because we have been talking about conversions, you know, what were some of the things you did on the traffic side of things to help kind of get that 8x number in there. Nate Smith: Okay, so yeah, my traffic did double in that year, so that is why you know, from writing ads from my consulting I am careful to say like conversion rate optimization is responsible for 4x of the 8x, but so there are few things that worked. Number 1 was just continuing to make content and being pretty strategic about the content that I made. So it was like once -- Jeremy Reeves: (inaudible 17:38.8) into that more, definitely. That is something that very few people talked about. I did a guest post on it, I do not know may be 2 or 3 months ago for I do not even remember who was it for. I read a lot of articles. But you know, it is something very few people talked about it. It is just everybody is just, oh, I know more traffic, I need more traffic, I need more traffic and I was actually just on podcast and we are talking about the difference between quality of traffic and quantity of traffic you know what I mean. So yeah, so dig into that more and let us talk about that a little bit. Nate Smith: Okay, I have a got a lot of thoughts and quality and quantity of traffic. In fact, I just wrote a blog post today and I saw this when I started my own business, but I am also seeing it with clients. So one thing that I discover actually which is sort of helping me get over some of my mindset hurdles as a consultant because you think, oh, this person is a 7 figure company with like 25 employees like what can I tell them, it is like well, that is why they are getting someone from the outside to come in because a lot of these startups will have what I call KPI silos, and actually that is one reason I was super excited to talk to you is because when I have heard you on the podcast, you are really bullish on this kind of holistic approach to the funnels, it is like what is your acquisition cost. What is your lifetime value, I do not want to hear about anything else that is not going toward either of those bottom lines, but what happens is you have people measuring click through rate from an Ad in isolation and then opt in conversion rate from a landing page in isolation. And you will end up attracting bad traffic and the reason why is, if you are not tying everything back to how profitable somebody is, I actually came up with this idea of like 3 customer avatars right. So it is like I am starting to run paid traffic to my landing pages to get people on my list and to sort of experiment with you know customer avatars and pivots for both my consulting and future products right. So I am running paid traffic to my list and I am noticing that there are 3 sort of types. So one I like to call Craigand you know apologies for anybody is Craig out there, maybe it is from Craig’s list, sorry Craig, but Craig works at a holistic (inaudible 20:00.7) and his brother works at Microsoft and he is interested in being an entrepreneur, but he is not really an action taker. So Craig sees my offer on Facebook and it says, my lead magnet which is 3 simple steps that helped me 4x my earnings you know, download the few part, it is like (inaudible 20:23.2) so if I optimize for click throughs I am going to get a bunch of Craigs, but the thing you do not know about Craig is as soon as he is on the landing page, he needs to enter in his email, he is like, ah, I do not know what the privacy and everything and like, how do I know I can trust this guy and am I getting a text and he is off (inaudible 20:41.5). So you could spend $1000 optimizing for getting Craigs to your page and you would have zero to show for it, but maybe you decide you want to optimize for conversions. That is what all the paid traffic people are like, right. Like just optimize for conversions bro. So it is like, cool. So you are optimizing -- you put a pixel on your thank you page after your opt in. So now you got Pete and Pete likes to order body building supplements and he is actually had 1 foot in the day job and he has been trying to start a business for like the last 3 years. The problem is Pete does not like to invest in long term solutions. He has got kind of shiny objects in general. So now, Adwords and Facebook and Bing Ads or whatever you are running to your page is selecting for Pete because yeah, Craig will click, but Petes are the people who are converting. So if you optimize for Pete, sorry, (inaudible 21:38.0), but anyway, if you optimize for Pete you are going to write a very different landing page. You are going to have a landing page with an attractive model. It will say something like 3 report reveals the secrets to 5 million dollar success and Pete is all about that. He is going to opt in all day, but then the problem is you are not going to sell anything to Pete further down the line. So the point is those are the 2 top stages of the funnel and if you take this kind of traditional segmented stage by stage approach to things you might be ignoring Shiva, who is a partner in a 6 figure startup, who realizes that she is losing 4 to 5 figures a month just because of conversion rate attrition in your funnel and maybe 1 out of every 100 Shivas aren’t put off by the ad or the landing pages and good damn thing because when she finally sees your content and your copy she is great. She loves it, but the problem is you need to spend $1500 to get just 1 sale if you are optimizing for the wrong things. So why not start from who actually bought your stuff and find more of those people. So you are viewing click through rate as a function of again like how much does it actually cost me to acquire someone who is eventually going to buy, like I do not care about anyone else. If you are doing opt in you know conversion rate through the same filter. So you start with your funnel conversion rate, right. Like, is a 2% or above great, raise your prices. Is it below 2%, okay, now let us look at your opt in conversion rate, right, like it is a 10% to 15% across your property. Okay, if it is great, then we want to look at your sales conversion rate, but if it is not that you know, we want to do some of the common you know, opt in conversion rate optimizations like optimizing your landing pages to make the offer clear and making the button clear and like putting the -- putting super clear CTAs on your content pages, etc. Once you have those 2 dialed in, then you can go further inward and say okay, now it is time to look at the copywriting, the persuasion, all of that stuff, but that way, you are not going to end up spending a bunch of time and resources optimizing for people occupying spaces on your mailing list who are not eventually going to buy. Jeremy Reeves: Yeah, you know, it is -- like you were saying before how I look at kind of you know, all the KPIs and the actual matrix and stuff like that of the actual buyers you know, I am working with a company now and we are split testing a couple of different leads for VSL that we are doing and so they came back and they were like, okay, you know, here are some of the results, blah, blah, and I was like, okay, well how are you like just kind of confirm how are you getting these results and they said, oh, we are looking at page views like engagement on the video. I am like, okay, that needs to stop right now. Let’s go back, we have to do this on the actual sales you know, so now like, they did not really realized that and I should be the one that was setting it up, really, but -- so now, you know, we are going back and we are going to start retesting all those different things based on sales you know because it is kind of like if you look at emails, a really good kind of way to make this applicable is -- look at your email rates and if you know, so for example, I have another client that we just put in a -- which was the first one, it was a prospect campaign. So prospect campaign, there was not one in place before we put one in for people basically who abandoned shopping cards, it kind of like a 2 step process and people who only went through the first step, we put an end to try to get them to complete second step. Nate Smith: Oh, I cannot wait to hear this because I am working on the same thing. Jeremy Reeves: Yeah, yeah, so basically, what we did was we look and we put tracking code in for each of the emails to track the actual results of each individual email, not like the sequence itself, but each individual email and we found that you know emails number 1 and number 5 were converting like bought like head and shoulders above the other ones. So you know, if you look and you look it at that way, I mean, I do not even know the open and the click through rates because they do not matter that much you know, like how many podcast and things have you talked about it and oh, you know, I got a 40% open rate. I got whatever percent click through rate. How often do you actually hear people say, well, you know, I am getting X percent of sales from this email you know what I mean. It is like -- Nate Smith: I go this client, he is getting clicks for like a penny a click, it is like, great, but what is his conversion rate (inaudible 26:34.6) zero sales. Jeremy Reeves: Yeah. So you know, it is just you know, people when you are doing this and like you were talking about before, you have to look at it -- you have to look at each step of the funnel and kind of analyze that is what it is like you know, when I talked about kind of fixing your funnel. That is one of the first things we look at is okay, you know the funnel is doing whatever right now, either it is not converting or it is a breakeven or it is profitable, either way you still want to optimize it, does not really matter. I mean sometimes if it is converting like horrifically bad, then you just kind of scrap the whole thing and start over, but if it is showing life and you started to optimize it I mean all you really do is look, okay, start at the beginning, click through rate, how is that doing. Does it meet our kind of you know, benchmark our you know, baseline criteria, yes. Okay, next thing, opt in rate. Okay, next thing, sales page you know, and just look through the whole sequence and if you find the weak point in any of those areas it kind of gives you a hint of where to look you know, it is kind of like you know, a lot of marketers where really jus detectives you know. If you find you know, gun residue or whatever happens when you shoot a gun, you know, if you find that or if you find you know, bullet casing or something, well it tells you, it gives you a place to start to you know, do your detective work you know. Nate Smith: Right. And as much experiences that you have, you probably start to get kind of a spidey sense about, does this feel right or not. Jeremy Reeves: Yep, yep. I go a lot off my gut actually, but yeah, and you know, that is you know, one thing that people like it seems like a common them in like what you have done to grow your business so fast. You just look and say, okay, you know, what is happening here, okay, that is doing fine. Let us move to the next thing, okay, well, then you got to your you know, when you are looking at it, you said you got your copy and you said, oh, that is not doing good. So then you -- you know, start it there and you work and tweak that made it better you know. And now you know, -- actually, it takes me to my next point. What is -- what is your kind of next steps with that business. So you already you know, took it 8 times you know, what is the next step. What is the next on the plate you know, what are you going to start looking at next to grow it even further. Nate Smith: Yeah, great question. So that (inaudible 28:54.2) is my primary business and I continue to improve the products I have for sale and I continue to create content and grow the audience, and in Q2, speaking of working with Taylor, he pushed me because we are selling his effectiveness productivity coaching product. So I took the product because I have the copy ready for it. So one of the thing is that you are supposed to chose a single goal for 90 days. So for Q2, my goal was become a 6 figure consultant. So most of my best efforts, my best brain glucose in terms of growth is gone into helping to serve my clients as well as I can and learning as much as I can from them and also to sort of build a content and authority platform in the conversion rate and funnel vertical, but the great thing is I allowed myself one avenue or one activity with the primary business and that was content and traffic. So actually by restricting what I can work on that has made me sort of more creative about it. So it is like, alright, I can only do traffic over at the primary business which by the way is the 80/20 Drummer, he was a professional drummer so I monetized my music skill. So what has worked well in traffic, things like joint ventures on Youtube, right, where someone else has a Youtube channel with some traffic and I feel like they are good fit for my audience, so I invite them on my channel and we will do a collaboration. And even if they do not reciprocate, which a lot of times, they do, it is still a great way to increase the exposure for both of us because a lot of times they will share the video with their audience. So yeah, it has been primarily traffic and incremental product improvement over on the 80/20 Drummer side, but I am learning so much from working with consulting clients that it will be fun to try to apply some of these lessons I am learning like for instance, the Ryan Levesque thing, right, like go back and find the people who have not bought anything from you and survey them and find out if there is any you can serve for them so then you will have another product or the Perry Marshall upsale thing. Like how many people would be willing to pay 4 figures for some sort of in person event is that power curve from 80/20 sales and marketing. So that stuff has been fun to think about. Jeremy Reeves: Yeah, nice, nice. I kind of do that too because there is only, and I can relate because one of side businesses actually, I am actually working on it today, because we are doing a big launch next week. So it is one of my you know, usually -- I only work on it either nights or weekends and it is kind of the same thing. It is like, it is not -- it is not making enough that it is like, it does not even compare to what I make with like in a consulting side of things, but it is like I mean, like 100% passive you know what I mean. I spend like half hour a month on it. If I am not doing marketing stuff like (inaudible 32:10.3) I just let it run and it is like half hour a month. That is kind of how I am like I found and I was just kind of analyzing what I work on with that business versus consulting business and I found that I am a lot more focus and I am even with the consulting like I am very focused. I have weekly like kind of meetings with myself, like I analyzed my habits on a weekly basis and so I am still very focused in what I do in everything, but even with Keno or the side business, I have noticed that like, I mean, when I work on that, I know that I only have like an hour, 1 night, or when the kids are sleeping on Saturday or something like that and it is just like I mean in that hour, I get done so much work, it is insane, you know what I mean. Nate Smith: That is amazing. Yeah, it makes me wonder actually if having a entrepreneurial venture that you started on your own is positively correlated with success and sort of velocities to success as a consultant. I wonder because obviously like we both the learned the lessons about business from doing it ourselves, but I have also found that having the cash flow from the original business has allowed me to be long-term outcome dependent, but yeah, short-term outcome dependent with the consulting. So I am not necessarily nervous on any individual sales call and I am kind of in the psychology of like seeing if something is a good fit rather than hard-selling somebody. Jeremy Reeves: Yeah, I like it. Yeah, that is a good point you know. It comes back to kind of you know, a foundational marketing principles to think strategic long-term rather than just kind of short-term promotions. I actually just took a -- one of my clients, she was kind of short-term, just did promotions every couple of months and -- that was one of the things that I focused on with her was, okay, let us get away from that and let us put this into like more of an evergreen thing and she is up to like $1500 a day now from just kind of making that switch from the you know, like just a promotional business to like an actual you know, like long-term kind of focus and having perpetual traffic and sales and all that kind of stuff. Nate Smith: Yeah, that is awesome. Can I ask you a quick question. I am sorry. Jeremy Reeves: Oh yeah, go ahead. Nate Smith: So, I am curious about something which is earlier in the call, you were talking about how you like to be really outcome focused on behalf of your clients. In terms of -- they hire you for a broad objective to create value in their funnel, and I noticed the same thing especially with a couple of clients lately where it is like, they will hire me to accomplish a goal, right, like improve conversions for this thing, but the particular means that we think are going to be the one to succeed, may not actually be the thing that succeeds. So just for instance, the cart abandonment email sequence. So I had to look at that and then I am like, you know, these emails are not bad. Let me see the checkout page and I am like, well I cannot even find the shipping form on the checkout page. Let us just put this above the fold. So my question for you is, what happens for you with clients when -- I guess how do you allow in your arrangements for projects where the scope might quickly change because you need to pivot quickly, because it turns out something different than what you originally anticipated is the best way to accomplish the goal. I hope that phrase -- is that okay. Jeremy Reeves: Yeah, yeah, yeah. That is a good question. I think this is kind of a good thing for anybody in the service industry to hear you know, what I do is, I always look, when I am talking to somebody on the phone, I am always in my head like okay, what is the best win here. What is the easy win you know, what is the best way to essentially accomplish a goal for the money they are paying me you know, that is kind of like the filer that I have at all times when I am talking to people. So we usually go ahead and do that and it basically either works or does not work you know, there is really no like it kind of half works like you really either just, it works or does not. So you know, in most cases, it will work and revenue goes up and everybody is happy and all that, but in the times that it does not work what I do is because yeah, sometimes when you are working on the project, because you only have you know, you only talk to the client for whatever 30 minutes or whatever on the phone, so you really do not get that deep of an understanding of their business. So if things come up, if the first project works then I will say, okay, here is -- and a lot of times at the beginning we have -- we kind of have mapped out the phase 1 and phase 2 you know what I mean, because a lot of people like to start with something a little bit smaller to get the win, to get like that, just that confidence you know what I mean, and then it is like, okay, let us do this and then the second thing after that is we are going to do this. So if the first thing does not turned out as plan, what I typically do is go back and look for something that is going to get that like easy win you know, that quick win, that it is like maybe it was like a smaller piece of you know, like a smaller project that was not really -- it did not really like it was, it was -- something that would definitely win, but it was not really, it would have made sense to go in the original scope of the project. If that make sense, I am not really sure for being clear. Nate Smith: No, no, I get it. Jeremy Reeves: Yeah, yeah, and then go back and then say, like, okay, you know, you paid me X dollars that did not really work unfortunately, so let us go back, let us at least get you a win you know, because I hate, it drives me nuts to even just thinking about the fact that somebody pays me money and they do not make a return on that you know what I mean. So I always look at -- that is kind of how I go about it is looking at you know, looking at what has the best possibility of getting them their money back and obviously you know, a big return on their money. Obviously, you know, the goal is to maximize their return And then you know, if it just does not work which you know, all these and marketing happens once in a while, then you go back and say, okay, well, what is another area that we are just going to add it, it is going to be a definite win. Usually, it is not something that is going to take like a month to do it, something smaller. Could even be, I mean, I have even done things simple as, okay, let us do a promotion you know, to at least get your -- like I will write up the emails for you. Make the sales page whatever which those are usually pretty quick and easy sales page and run that and that way at least you know, the thing that we originally thought was going to work did not work, but at least this way, you are still getting return you know what I mean. So that is kind of how I -- that is kind of how I approached it you know and I think it comes back to just doing business to help other people you know. I think that is applicable whether you have a product, whether you have a service, a SAS, I mean whatever it is. You should always be in it. People should be paying you money and you should get them a return on that money and you know, we are in business, so it is a financial return but it could be health, it could be you know, whatever it is. They should be getting, they should be getting kind of a specific outcome from you know working with you, you know. So that is kind of my thought process I guess on all that. Nate Smith: Yeah, that is great. Jeremy Reeves: Yeah. So yes, let us go -- we will wrap it up. Let me ask you this. If there is, if there is one thing, I try to think of the way to -- I try to think of a way to word it that it make sense you know, looking back over your past you know year wow it has been a year and a half, it still kills me. I am still not used to be in the middle of the year already. Seriously, this year is flying by. So looking back over the last you know, a year and a half, you know, things were not working out until then, all of the sudden you know, it just turned on, the things started working and then you went -- for the success from the product and now you know, you are starting to get into the consultancy side of things and things are starting to you know move along. Is there any like one thing that you can look back and say if I did not do that, none of this would have happen like that one -- was there any like kind of one pivot point you know what I mean that kind of made everything shift. Nate Smith: Yeah, 100%, that is a great question. Yeah and actually, so let me first answer that and then I will very quickly review in your audience with what I do now to try (inaudible 41:05.5). So yeah, in November of 2014, I was in that and I have been spinning my wheels in this niche, the music niche, and I had products for sale, but they were low price, they were not converting to pretty well and I kept seeing other things that I might want to jump into like, oh you know, maybe I should just help people make videos on Youtube or I forgot, oh yeah, maybe I should just blog, maybe I should just be a travel blogger or something like that and so I really had no faith that it was going to work out and it was almost accidental that just out of frustration that I decided to send that email to my list about okay you know, this clearly is not working, so what can I do for you, and that was the spark about oh, maybe I can actually build this for them. So yeah, and then, when that was -- like even after (inaudible 42:12.3) even after I had that validation, I still needed a push across the finish line actually really shipped the product and so I had mentor who was pretty stern with me about what are you doing, why are you dragging your feet. You need to ship and so he challenged me to launch and like the next 2 weeks, he is like I am going to call you 2 weeks from now and if you have not launch, we are going to have words. So that was the other big one and I see now why he wanted to do that because he needed to drag me across the finish line to give me that feeling that dopamine of something succeeding so that I would know what that felt like and be able to chase it and try to recreate it in the future. So now the question I asked myself and speaking of doing the daily and weekly (inaudible 43:01.6) journaling, you mentioned you were doing that too, but one thing I like to ask myself is, what am I assuming is impossible just because it has not succeeded yet. Jeremy Reeves: I like that. I might write that down actually. Yeah, I like that. It is a good way to -- I am usually pretty good with like you know, mindset thing and not really putting limits on myself on that, but I like that. I think that would help a lot of people. Nate Smith: Yeah, and you have also got a lot more experience so I hope that by the time I have as much as experience as you have, I am similarly less in my own way. I look forward to that. Jeremy Reeves: You know what, I have realized over the course of career that and even now, I am starting to put a lot of focus not just on you know, because I would say up until I do not know maybe a year ago or so, it was like basically everything that I listened to was skill based you know, improving myself as a copywriter, as a marketer, as strategist, that kind of thing, and I have realized that if you do not have, like if you do not improve yourself, you know, your mindset, your beliefs that kind of thing. It is kind of like that is -- I think at most people is the weak link you know what I mean, because you can be the best whatever copywriter in the world, but if you do not -- if you do not have like the internal mindset to know that and to have the confidence and to have the beliefs that you like are worth what you charge, you are still not going to do that you know versus there are a lot of people I mean are charging way more than they should not be charging and it is because they have like kind of the mindset thing on, but not the skill thing you know. So I think it is really important for people to have like do that personal development stuff and it really just integrate those beliefs of that you know, of that awesomeness if you will you know, that they are capable of accomplishing so much more than they think you know, because it makes you think differently. I have had several breakthroughs of my career when it was just -- things just opened up and it was like, oh my God I can do this, you know and then you go and do it and if you never had that breakthrough like if you did not allow your mind to open like that, you would never even think that idea, that idea like literally would not enter your mind you know what I mean. So I have been spending a lot of time in personal development lately you know. Even just, I mean health wise, mentally wise, you know emotional like all that spiritually all that kind of stuff. I think it is a really big you know area of improvement that most people can make. Nate Smith: Yeah, that is super deep, and I agree like, I think one thing I have really pick up on working with Taylor is that, it all comes back to that. It is sort of the single most important meta skill, like you can have everything else lined up, but if the mindset stuff is not in place, you can end up spinning your wheels, as you said, you can end up charging too much for too little value or you can end up charging too little for too much value and get bitter and burned out, so super important. Jeremy Reeves: Yeah and what was your quote is, I am going to write it down. I really like that. I am going to have -- I may have to use that. Nate Smith: I am pretty sure I stole it from somebody else too, but what am I assuming is impossible just because it has not succeeded yet. Jeremy Reeves: I like that. I am going to write that down. Nate Smith: I have got 1 more, do you want that too? Jeremy Reeves: Yeah, might as well. Nate Smith: Okay, what am I assuming is just going to happen without my taking action to make it happen. Jeremy Reeves: Nice. Nate Smith: And that is important for me with the clients in the pipeline and I am like, yeah, that was a great (inaudible 46:57.2) so then, subconsciously, I start to assume that the money is clear to my account (inaudible 47:02.5) but nope (inaudible 47:03.9). Jeremy Reeves: Yeah, it is -- I have definitely learned on that one. It is not cleared until not only do you have the check but the check is actually cleared at the bank. It is fun -- I have actually gone into the point where I had one client and the check went through, it was just a small mistake. There was an awesome client, but they actually sent a check, so not only do they say they are going to send the check, but then they sent the check, but they forgot to sign it so I could not cash in. so I had it like, you know, so it was just funny though because that is one thing with a lot of service providers is they do that and it is like, oh yeah, you know, I got off the call. I think I am going to charge him you know, whatever $10k, so in your head, you are like, oh, where is that $10k on, but you have to have that and then you have to send the proposal and then they have to agree to the proposal and then they have to actually send the check and then the check has to actually clear. So yeah, it is funny though. Yeah, that was the only time that it ever happened, but yeah, it was just a kind of funny mistake. I was actually -- I actually busted their balls for doing that, but yeah, so I mean, that was really helpful. I thought it was you know, (inaudible 48:17.6) I thought it was going to be a cool kind of story you know, that you went through because you know, you are in the beginning stages of all this you know what I mean and I you have done really, really well especially for being kind of the beginning stages and you kind of stumbled across a few things that it takes people longer I think to come across so I thought it was going to be you know, a pretty cool kind of story, inspirational I think for a lot of people listening. Nate Smith: Man, that is super flattering to hear and it definitely means a lot to hear that you think like I am on the right track and that I stumbled across on things like definitely right that one down and remember to feel grateful for whatever things I may or may not have stumbled across. Jeremy Reeves: Yeah, definitely, but hey, you know, before we hop off, let everyone that you know, you know if anybody wants to work with you or you know, get in the blog list and your stuff, you know, whatever you want them to, wherever you want them to go, tell everybody where they can find you. Nate Smith: So let us do dedicated landing page, let us go to 80/20marketing guide.com/jeremy and if people come and give me their name and email, I will give them my 3 step guide to eliminating the elites in your funnel and the 3 most powerful steps that helped me 4x my profit and in 30 minutes you can kind of do the wants over on your funnel and see where you might be losing money. Jeremy Reeves: Nice, I like it. Hey man, it was great having you on and I wish you very good luck in both the businesses you know, the information business and then also the you know, consultancy side of things and yeah, let us keep in touch. Nate Smith: Thanks so much, great to chat with you. Jeremy Reeves: You too.

Bonus episode for a bonus book! Brandon dropped Secret History on the world without any warning, so we didn't include it officially in our 2016 reading challenge. But it had to go in, of course. So Craig, Ryan, and Nic chat for a few minutes about seeing some of the old Mistborn cast again, plus implications for the Cosmere at large. Don't forget to go to Imzy.com/legendarium and sign up for the beta test. Do it before midnight on April 10th and you'll be entered for a signed and personalized copy of The Bands of Mourning!

## It's our last Episode before the Oscars! So Craig, David and Floss discuss a vast majority of the categories and all the films nominated and who might take the Golden Award. We'll return for a final episode of RTTO after the Oscars, Road to the Oscars: End of the Road. If you'd like to support us, the best way of doing so is by leaving us a 5 Star review on Apple Podcasts and if you can, become a [Paetreon supporter] (https://www.patreon.com/isitworthitpodcast)! The Graphic Design Team Toby Alexander & Kraig Archibald Social Media Team Mark Chiles, Floss Hafter-Smith, Jonny Wainman & Ranjeet Nanrah Audio Team Callum Molloy & Alex Robert Research Shivani Rayat This episode was produced and edited by Craig Fields Presented by Craig Fields, David Long & Floss Hafter-Smith. David & Craig would like to thank Cineworld Hemel Hempstead for their continued support! Keep looking out for our competitions that take place exclusively on our twitter page @filmisworthit