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Circling back to the midday show's conversation the other day about Bill Belichick's CBS Sunday morning interview. More information has come out and the midday show wants to react and discuss to see what is going on with the future hall of fame coach!

Disney is reportedly growing more anxious to unloads its legacy media businesses as new scandals with Shannon Sharpe and George Stephanouplous incite a meltdown at the networks. This, as CBS News' 60 Minutes now sees its fragile future in question … and, as Comcast cuts the chord with MSNBC. The media business is suffering a massive fallout in the migration to digital streaming and platforms like this. Meanwhile, did you see poor Bill Belichick’s intervew on CBS Sunday am? WHAT IS GOING ON WITH HIS 24 year old girlfriend, a hopeful Miss Maine USA contestant?! UNC Staff members are growing nervous — as they should!! Trish Regan reacts to that - and much more in today’s LIVE edition of The Trish Regan Show. SUBSCRIBE TO MY CHANNEL: https://Youtube.com/TrishReganChannel Become a TEAM MEMBER to get special access and perks: ▶️ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBlMo25WDUKJNQ7G8sAk4Zw/join

Steak hit on Things I Learned over the weekend. We dug into the awkwardness of Bill Belichick's interview on CBS Sunday morning, the Chili's boom, and the end of an era.

We're back with another April edition of our show talking the HUGE Sunday on the course for Rory McIlroy winning The Masters and for CBS wtih the massive audience his dramatic playoff win brought. Plus, was a prominent ESPN host really about to leave for rival Fox Sports? We're ready to go over it all on the "Last Word on Sports Media Podcast!"Host T.J. Rives is back with co-host Mike Gill to give their insight and takes.They discuss the dramatics on CBS Sunday and why the Masters resonates for sports fans that aren't really golf fans. And, how Jim Nantz is in his best element calling this event.Then, they turn to the story of Rece Davis re-signing with ESPN to continue to host their College Gameday for football and basketball, but was he really close to leaving for Fox Sports' coverage of college football and more? Lots of discussion on this.The guys also talk the NBA playoffs starting mid-week with their lastest "Play-in" one game elimination games to set their final two seeds in each conference. Plus, they talk about tremendous national hockey play by play voice Kenny Albert getting a new role with the N.Y. Rangers.And, they wrap with some LEGENDARY boxing nostalgia on the 40th anniversary of the Marvin Hagler-Thomas "Hitman" Hearns three round brawl from 1985. They also have some quick comments with an interivews with from great boxing broadcasters Al Bernstein and Barry Tompkins.It's all on the "LWOS Media Podcast!" and make sure to follow/subscribe for our content on Apple/Spreaker/Spotify, etc.! 

We're back with another April edition of our show talking the HUGE Sunday on the course for Rory McIlroy winning The Masters and for CBS wtih the massive audience his dramatic playoff win brought. Plus, was a prominent ESPN host really about to leave for rival Fox Sports? We're ready to go over it all on the "Last Word on Sports Media Podcast!"Host T.J. Rives is back with co-host Mike Gill to give their insight and takes.They discuss the dramatics on CBS Sunday and why the Masters resonates for sports fans that aren't really golf fans. And, how Jim Nantz is in his best element calling this event.Then, they turn to the story of Rece Davis re-signing with ESPN to continue to host their College Gameday for football and basketball, but was he really close to leaving for Fox Sports' coverage of college football and more? Lots of discussion on this.The guys also talk the NBA playoffs starting mid-week with their lastest "Play-in" one game elimination games to set their final two seeds in each conference. Plus, they talk about tremendous national hockey play by play voice Kenny Albert getting a new role with the N.Y. Rangers.And, they wrap with some LEGENDARY boxing nostalgia on the 40th anniversary of the Marvin Hagler-Thomas "Hitman" Hearns three round brawl from 1985. They also have some quick comments with an interivews with from great boxing broadcasters Al Bernstein and Barry Tompkins.It's all on the "LWOS Media Podcast!" and make sure to follow/subscribe for our content on Apple/Spreaker/Spotify, etc.! 

Support Breaking Walls at https://www.patreon.com/thewallbreakers It's a cold, rainy Sunday evening on January 8th, 1956. We're heading south on Riverside Drive in Manhattan's Upper West Side. On the air is NBC's Monitor with a New World Today discussion about the differences in American life in the past twenty years. The United States is changing. Psychiatry is on the rise as the cold war rages onward. The internal Red Scare has subsided, but Secretary of State John Foster Dulles said this week that the U.S. won't stop testing nuclear weapons, despite pleas from Pope Pius XII on Christmas Day. While nuclear fears are understandable, the U.S. government thinks the USSR's presence in emerging nations means they can't be trusted to follow suit and stop their own testing. In Ecuador today, five evangelical American Christian missionaries were speared to death by members of the Huaorani people after attempting to introduce Christianity to them. Meanwhile, Algeria is in the midst of a war for Independence between France and the Algerian National Liberation Front. It began in November of 1954 and by now it's considered the world's only active war of note. It's a complex conflict characterized by guerrilla warfare and the use of torture. Gunsmoke is far and away radio's highest-rated dramatic show. It airs on CBS Sunday evenings with a Saturday afternoon repeat broadcast. The combined rating of 6.5 means somewhere between six and seven million people are still tuning in from their homes. When factoring in car and transistor radios, nearly ten million people are listening. CBS remains the home for the top-rated prime-time shows. Our Miss Brooks is pulling a rating of 4.3, and both Edgar Bergen and Two For The Money are pulling a 3.9. Meanwhile, on daytime radio, CBS has the twelve highest-rated programs. So where am I heading? I'm a roving CBS producer. I've worked on both coasts, including with Norman MacDonell on Gunsmoke in Hollywood, but last year programming directors Guy Della Choppa and Howard Barnes sent me back home to New York. I'm heading to the City Center at 131 West 55th street. I'm to cover a preview of Shakespeare's King Lear starring Orson Welles. It features Viveca Lindfors and Geraldine Fitzgerald and begins at 8:30PM. I helped with Welles' Omnibus production of Lear on CBS-TV in October 1953. I had drinks with him last week. He kept raving about two things: Carl Perkins' new hit, “Blue Suede Shoes,” and friend Jack Johnstone's production of Yours Truly, Johnny Dollar. Johnstone directed Welles' Almanac series from the west coast during World War II. I phoned Jack yesterday. He had this to say. Jack was sure to mention that this week's upcoming Dollar story would take place in New York. If all goes well, Orson might be interested in returning to network radio in some capacity. Welles is once again a father. His daughter Beatrice was born last November 13th. He's been looking for more stable projects and wants to get dinner after the performance. Lear doesn't officially open until Thursday the 12th. The City Center was built as The Mecca Temple and opened in 1923. It's part of a small section of galleries, apartments, and performing spaces, but development is possibly encroaching. Last April, The Mayor's Slum Clearance Committee, chaired by Robert Moses, was approved to designate the area just west in Lincoln Square for urban renewal. The residents, many of them Hispanic, have been protesting the decision, but Robert Moses usually gets his way.

It was a wild weekend including Kendall's 1 year old birthday, Mike's Big Move and Brittany gets Dirty Pop. We have the latest Diddy Updates and celebs trying to distance themselves. Demi Moore joined CBS Sunday morning and Kendall has jumped into the most watched Netflix show, Monsters: The Lyle and Erik Menendez Story. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

It was a wild weekend including Kendall's 1 year old birthday, Mike's Big Move and Brittany gets Dirty Pop. We have the latest Diddy Updates and celebs trying to distance themselves. Demi Moore joined CBS Sunday morning and Kendall has jumped into the most watched Netflix show, Monsters: The Lyle and Erik Menendez Story. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Khalid Sheikh Mohammed plea deal revoked, Eli Zaret returns with Olympic fails, Judge Joe Brown v. Kamala Harris, Harry & Megan's newest grift, normalizing farts, Kanye West's new album, angry Henry Winkler, and Tori Spelling might be joining OnlyFans. Stuttering John will appear on our show… once we pay him. Eli Zaret drops by to discuss too much swimming in the Olympics, hilarious pole vault fails, Simone Biles vs Donald Trump, big ratings for the Paris Olympics, boxing controversy questions, Flavor Flav's generosity, Phil Knight's big NIL wallet, the 100 top athletes in this century, too much Snoop Dogg, Eli's vacation destination, the vanishing former Detroit Tiger Craig Monroe, the flailing Detroit Tigers, Sue Bird Barbie Dolls, Megan Rapinoe's boobs, nepo-Bronny James and more. Other sports: The Detroit Lions are back THURSDAY! Steve McMichael was able to see himself enter the NFL Hall of Fame. Politics: The Presidency is a booby prize. When will Donald Trump and Kamala Harris debate? Doug Emhoff nailed his nanny. No deal for 9/11 architect Khalid Sheikh Mohammed. The dude has the worst file photo in history. We fixed it up a little bit for the monster. Kanye West drops a new album- Vultures 2. His stupid kids are on the album. Bianca Censori needs attention and a bib. Aerosmith retires from touring due to Steven Tyler's vocal injuries. Billy Idol and Steve Stevens perform Rebel Yell on the Empire State Building. Tobey Maguire is nailing everything. Is he or has he ever been hot? Tori Spelling is turning to OnlyFans for her children's tuition and William Shatner pretends he has no idea what's on the site. Marcus Jordan has found a new piece of other than Larsa Pippen. Zac Efron had a hospital scare in Ibiza, but nobody knows what happened. Henry Winkler was involved in an altercation at the Post Office. This woman has a complete bottomless meltdown at the airport. Tyler Jones is busted leaking hot professor pics. He's a hall of fame revenge porn poster. Prince Harry and Meghan Markle go on CBS Sunday morning to talk about their new website. We'd rather donate to Thomas Markle's GoFundMe. Deadpool & Wolverine is raking in the cash at the box office. It has a killer soundtrack. Billie Joe Armstrong covered one of Drew's favorite songs: You Can't Put Your Arms Around A Memory. Wes Scantlin of Puddle of Mudd is in trouble again and acting like a jerk again. A new book is dropping exposing Bill Gates as a deviant and Melinda as a saint. Ben Affleck was so done with JLo after she partnered up with booze and dropped that turd movie. Demi Moore loves farts so much she wants to normalize them. Come join us in support of the Kirk Gibson Foundation's 8th Annual Golf Classic on August 19 at Wyndgate Country Club in Rochester Hills, MI. See us October 25th at The Magic Bag with WATP! Visit Our Presenting Sponsor Hall Financial – Michigan's highest rated mortgage company If you'd like to help support the show… consider subscribing to our YouTube Page, Facebook, Instagram and Twitter (The Drew Lane Show, Marc Fellhauer, Trudi Daniels, Jim Bentley and BranDon).

Have you ever felt that your one-on-one meetings aren't as effective as they should be?Before you write them off your calendar, consider this: a Gallup study reveals that employees are three times more engaged when they experience regular one-on-ones.But let's face it—one-on-ones take up a significant portion of your time. They aren't as easy as asking your team members, “How are you?”. Fortunately, this week's guest is here to help make your one-on-ones more valuable to you and your people.Meet Dr. Steven Rogelberg. Steven is an organizational psychologist and holds the distinguished title of Chancellor's Professor at UNC Charlotte. His new book Glad We Met: The Art and Science of 1:1 Meetings was designated as a top 12 book by SHRM. He and his work have been featured on CBS Sunday, CNN, MSN, HBR, WSJ, and BBC World, to name a few. Adam Grant has called Steven the world's leading expert on meetings.  In this episode, Steven and I explore the significance of one-on-one meetings between managers and their direct reports. He shares the benefits of regular one-on-ones and offers practical, actionable tips to make these meetings more effective. Plus, in the extended episode available to members of Podcast+, he discusses how these meetings can become an integral part of organizational culture and explains the powerful concept of skip-level one-on-ones.Join the conversation now!Get FREE mini-episode guides with the big idea from the week's episode delivered to your inbox when you subscribe to my weekly email.Conversation Topics(00:00) Intro(02:08) What is a one-on-one meeting?(04:42) The manager's role in facilitating these meetings(06:44) Astounding benefits of conducting one-on-ones(10:44) Effective questions to ask in one-on-one meetings(20:41) Common mistakes managers make during one-on-ones(23:01) How often and how long should you conduct these meetings(25:26) The importance of connecting through meaningful conversations at work(28:36) Keep up with Steven(29:31) [Extended Episode Only] How one-on-ones can be a part of your organizational culture(34:44) [Extended Episode Only] What you need to know about skip-level one-on-one meetingsAdditional Resources:- Get the extended episode by Joining The Modern Manager Podcast+ Community for just $15 per month- Read the full transcript here- Follow me on Instagram here - Visit my website for more here- Build your team's skills here- Subscribe to my YouTube Channel hereKeep up with Steven- Follow Steven on LinkedIn here- Grab a copy of Steven's book hereFREE Guide Questions to Ask During One-on-One MeetingsIn lieu of this week's episode, Mamie is providing members of Podcast Plus with a list of more than 30 questions to ask during your one-on-one meetings.To get this bonus and many other member benefits, become a member of The Modern Manager Podcast+ Community.---------------------The Modern Manager is a leadership podcast for rockstar managers who want to create a working environment where people thrive, and great work gets done.Follow The Modern Manager on your favorite podcast platform so you won't miss an episode!

NPR's Ryan Lucas explains the outcome of Hunter Biden's felony gun trial in Delaware. And, Secretary of State Antony Blinken is calling on Hamas to accept the ceasefire plan that the United Nations Security Council has approved. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has said he supports it. International correspondent for The Independent Borzou Daragahi joins us. Then, the new book "Roctogenarians: Late in Life Debuts, Comebacks, and Triumphs" spotlights people who found success later in life. CBS Sunday correspondent and author Mo Rocca and author talks about it.Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy

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Everyone, Sheevaun here. I want to talk about something that I'm seeing a lot in our community and the folks that we're helping. We're an elevated community for folks who are looking to provide a solution out into humanity and really do good work in the world. And I help businesses grow and thrive and expand and make sure that they're on the right track and that they're physically, mentally, emotionally, spiritually, relationally, financially, on the right track. The interesting thing that I've been noticing during this time is this thing around fear and that fear energy. I'm looking at my notes over here because I wanna make sure to be really mindful of the current climate of fear and how to talk about that. So if you watch the news a whole lot, they just put this on Sunday, CBS Sunday morning. Kind of cool that they put this on CBS Sunday morning. Because we've known, in the work that I do that this, this body of science exists. They said that, thoughts are contagious. News is contagious. Thoughts are contagious, meaning a thought that is negative and icky and problematic and or positive, et cetera. They're all contagious. It's easier to pick up the negative thoughts because we're used to playing in the drama. So the really interesting thing about all of this work is that with fear, fear of life, fear of where we're living, fear of our livelihood, fear of what is unknown, you know, pretty well. Almost all the fears are really coming up and it really forces us to have to look at our inner world and what is happening in our inner world. You know, there's a cut the cord video, we'll put that in the in the description below, "cut the cord", meaning you're gonna disconnect that energy between you and all of that fear. At least it will give you a time to breathe. You can really get out there and do your work and really be much more clear-headed. You may have to cut the cord a thousand times to really get that shifted. So the fear energy that's out there and that is cycling and circulating, it's driven by the news, but it's mainly driven by our own insecurities and, and not feeling safe enough. The thing that's most important is if you can look and acknowledge that within yourself, you have made it this far in your life and that you're better at making it than you give yourself permission. If you can tap into that again and again and again, what you're going to discover is you're going to discover that, oh, I have kind of made it through a lot of stuff. It isn't going to be the end of the world as we know it. It is going to be changed and hopefully we are part of the solution and part of the best part of change that there is. So, cut the cords around fear of you're feeling, fear of your being around people. A lot of people in your family who are talking about fear just cut the chords a whole lot and really, give yourself an isolated kind of, we'll call it the cone of silence. I don't know if you remember that from a long time ago, but the cone of silence would be the cone of silence of fear, and look at things that are positive, that you know, nature's great and things, you know, find a book that really uplifts you and continue to revisit and revisit and revisit that. This whole channel is about getting you out of the frame of where you were and getting you into a solution. We just happened to be in more magnified times. My name is Sheevaun Moran. You can subscribe, I would be grateful if you did that. Share if you feel that this is a value, and find me at sheevaunmoran.com. See you soon and keep the faith and the hope and the joy and realize that you're safer, you're more loved, and you're more appreciated than ever, and you have more available for you than you have any idea; step into that. Big hugs. CONNECT WITH ME: Full site http://bit.ly/cpENJY Twitter   / sheevaun   Facebook http://bit.ly/2hCAlPT LinkedIn   / sheevaunmoran   Blog site http://bit.ly/2fn67jh Subscribe to my channel!    / energeticsolutions     Explore the podcast   295 episodes   Driving for Your Success Sheevaun Moran

Audacy NFL Insider Ross Tucker joined Mike Mulligan & Zach Zaidman to talk football ahead of commentating the Bears vs. Falcons game on CBS Sunday.

Holy effin shitebraide is this an EPIC episode for someone of such wee case of the Rush Rash!! But for what he lacks in rash he makes up for in slabberdash, it's the one and only Kevin "Thief of Joy" Brown. Rock and effin Roll Content Creator extraordinaire, he's the creator and or cohost of his own fiefdom in the Deep Dive Podcast Network - The Tom Petty Project, Seaside Pod Review and Ultimate Catalog Clash ~ with Avatar Corey Effin Morrissette of And The Podcast Will Rock fame ~ oh...did we mention Kevin is a known commodity there too?? In addition to being sometimes cohost and frequent contributor on all things Van...Hagar, he does T-Shirt designs up the wazoo for the Van Halen Podcast. There ain't nuttin' dis guy ain't got his mitts in...and with that accent...we found out...it ain't Canadian... After lots and lots of talk about more shite than you can break wind at, we get to Rollin' The Bones and spinning up a doozy - Red Tide, from 1989's Presto. Rock and Roll Rainsticks are a thing and we're gonna put it on a T-Shirt! How did the boys vote - your guess is as good as Geddy's! The news this week was too much to ignore - Geddy & Alex on CBS Sunday, Geddy's show debut tonight, Alex's Lerxt Amplifier deal, Geddy's last North American Effin Tour stop in Toronto...and who will the interviewer be?? Holy effin shitebraide, and so much effin more!! We name check all the usual suspects and cook up a cure that makes Walter White look like Willy fekin Wanka. Join us for a very, very wordy Rush Rash... The Scratch List - Scratch Yer Itch - LIVE! UK ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Moving Pictures Scotland⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Leoni Jane Kennedy⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ North America USA⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠YYNOT⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Second Contact⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Solar Federation⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Rush Archives⁠⁠⁠ Mood Lifters Canada ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠New World Men⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠2112⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Rush news, general nonsensical disorderly conduct, lack of regard for correctness or truth, and reckless endangerment of your whole-brain. This is the only podcast dedicated to increasing opioid release in your anterior insula, your anterior cingulate cortex (ACC), and your posterior cingulate cortex (PCC), in addition to the basal ganglia and the thalamus...and all that that implies.  Some thick North Jersey accents and they give you some royalty-free sound effects and movie clips too - what more do you need to indulge your urge to scratch?!  Join us - you know where to scratch - blah, blah...RushRash.

This week, Jeff is a mess. Also, football; the Atlanta Braves; what passes for rock music is all for old people; the Rolling Stones have a new single out; Sydney Sweeney; Aubrey Plaza; Brian's movie recommendation; a hacky bit; a Delta flight had a “diarrhea incident”; people with objects in their assholes head to the ER 4,000 times a year; and finally, in absence of more news, Brian plays a clip from CBS Sunday morning about when Jackie met JFK. (Recorded September 7, 2023.) Subscribe to TGO Radio on: Apple Podcasts, Amazon Music & Audible, Spotify, or Stitcher.

It is a very, very busy Friday edition of Glenn Clark Radio, Stan ‘The Fan' Charles is in studio as the guys prepare for a sports filled weekend in Baltimore. The Orioles-Rangers ALDS, Ravens at Steelers on Sunday, Terps at Ohio State on Saturday, we'll get you ready for it all and more… At 10:10am, you'll hear him on the ESPN Radio call of Orioles-Rangers this week, Tim Kurkjian, to help us preview the Orioles first ALDS since 2014. At 10:30am, we'll switch gears to football when we check in with former Steelers QB Charlie Batch, who now does Steelers pre- and post-game. At 11am, our good friend Evan Washburn, working the Ravens/Steelers sidelines for CBS Sunday. At 11:20am, our weekly chat with Bo Smolka, PressBox Ravens beat writer to get us set for Sunday's game and the latest on the myriad of Ravens injuries. At 11:40am, we'll catch up with former Oriole and Rangers TV analyst, Mark McLemore to help us preview the Rangers side of the ALDS. And we will wrap the program by listening to the final segment of Tuesday's 'Tyus Bowser Show' featuring Tyus and his special guest, Ravens RB Justice Hill.

 On this episode of The World's Greatest Action Sports Podcast, Chris and Todd talk about talking to Ian MacKaye on the telephone (Minor Threat, Fugazi), maximum effort in small waves, Cole Houshmand, J Bay kinda goes, Jonah and Sarah “surf” gossip still going strong, Dog Surfing Championships, Mikala Jones on CBS Sunday morning, X Games goes XXL at Rincon High School, Couch Surfing Show kills it, Ira Ingram AKA @curbkiller comes on to talk 9-Club, major motion pictures, Sheckler part, San Francisco wants to turn a drug spot in to a skate spot, Shaun White doc really rips, Skate Dreams, and Surfer Girls hit the airwaves, Chris went to and played a bunch of shows, Chris gets emotional about small wave surfing, Chris is now friends with Ian MacKaye from Fugazi, Scotty James is helping X Games, all your questions answered, and so much more, this is a great episode.     Presented By:   Oleu @oleu_originals Machu Picchu Energy @machupicchu.energy Hansen Surfboards @hansensurfboards RationAle @rationalebrewing BN3TH @BN3THApparel Pedal Electric @pedal.electric Bubs Naturals @bubsnaturals  Bachan's Japanese BBQ Sauce @trybachans Pannikin Coffee And Tea @pannikincoffeeandtea New Greens @newgreens Die Cut Stickers @diecutstickersdotcom

This interview focuses on suicide prevention so please listen carefully. Here are the international suicide prevention crisis numbers (USA is not 988). I want to read you the first part of the email I sent to our guest today for SelfWork. "Katrina good morning. I'm the host of The SelfWork Podcast and I just saw the CBS Sunday Morning interview about your mom, the way she died, and your actions since it happened. Let me say I'm so sorry about the struggles your mom had all her life and how her bipolar disorder could take her in such destructive directions, ending in her suicide." "I'd love to interview you for SelfWork. I very much admire what you're doing and think it's such a brilliant way of working through the complete mess that gun control conversations can create. It's positive. Proactive. And I know many of my own clients would've signed up." Who is Katrina Brees? She's a grieving daughter turned activitist. And I think she's come up with a brilliant way of bridging the debate over gun control versus the Second Amendment  - as far as it pertains to suicide. It's called Donna's Law. That was her mother's name. And her mother, who hated guns and had often hospitalized herself because she was suicidal, killed herself with a gun. This week you may notice a new sponsor of SelfWork! It's the Jordan Harbinger show – and the ad is in a different format – what's called an introcast - so that you can listen to that information in just a couple of minutes! I've found his show entertaining and intrigiuing and more than welcome his team to SW! Vital Links!  We welcome back BiOptimizers and Magnesium Breakthrough as a returning sponsor to SelfWork and they have a new offer! Just click here! Make sure you use the code "selfwork10" to check out free product! 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By recording, you're giving SelfWork (and me) permission to use your voice on the podcast. I'll look forward to hearing from you! Episode Transcript Speaker 1: (00:10) This is Self-Work, and I'm Dr. Margaret Rutherford at Self-Work. We'll discuss psychological and emotional issues common in today's world and what to do about them. I'm Dr. Margaret and Self-Work is a podcast dedicated to you taking just a few minutes today for your own self-work. Speaker 1: (00:29) Hello and welcome or welcome back to Self-Work. I'm Dr. Margaret, and I'm so glad you're here. Before we get to the actual intro for this interview, I wanna make sure you know that it focuses on suicide prevention, so please listen carefully. We have a great interview today. Maybe a little controversial, but I certainly hope not. I want to read you the first part of the email I sent to our guest today for self-work. Her name is Katrina Breeze. Katrina, good morning. I'm the host of the Self-Work podcast, and I just saw the CBS Sunday morning interview about your mom, the way she died, and your actions since it happened. Let me say, I'm so sorry about the struggles your mom had all her life and how her bipolar disorder could take her in such destructive directions ending in her suicide. I've heard many stories and have my own concern and passion about how destructive perfectionism and suicide are linked, but that's not the point of this email. Speaker 1: (01:28) This morning, I'd sat down to write an episode on suicide, but I decided to switch on CBS's Sunday morning and saw your interview. That's all the synergy I needed to find out how to reach out to you. I'd love to interview you for self-work. I very much admire what you're doing and think it's such a brilliant way of working through the complete mess that gun control conversations can create. It's positive, proactive, and I know many of my own clients would've signed up. That was my email. Now, who is Katrina Breeze? She's a grieving daughter turned activist, and I think she's come up with a brilliant way of bridging the gun debate, as well as the debate about the Second Amendment as far as it pertains to suicide. Her mother was named Donna, and it's called Donna's Law. And her mother who hated guns and had often hospitalized herself because she was suicidal, killed herself with a gun. Speaker 1: (02:25) Here's some facts you may not know before you turn off. Hold on. Firearms are the most common means of suicide in 2020. Firearms were used in 53% of suicides with 24,292 gun suicide victims annually. This is a leading cause of death for Americans... That's more than 66 people each day. Many suicide attempts are impulsive, and the vast majority of survivors do not keep trying until they succeed. But people who choose firearms as their suicide method very rarely survive. About 85% of gun suicide attempts end in death. Donna's law, also known as the "voluntary do not sell list", gives a person the option to voluntarily and confidentially put their own names into the federal background check system to prevent impulsive gun purchases for a suicide attempt. Donna Nathan should have been able to have suspended her own ability to buy a gun, and that's what we're talking about today. I think it's an incredible solution to a very sticky problem. Before we hear from Katrina, here's a quick message from BiOptimizers Magnesium Breakthrough. Speaker 1: (03:49) Hey guys, I wanna share with you that recently I've been working on some very important projects that have very short deadlines, as always, right? Seems everything today is a sap anyway, I have not been able to keep up with all of my self-care routine. I certainly haven't had breaks to have proper meals, and I'm drinking way too much ice tea. 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Speaker 1: (05:12) Again, I wanna stress Katrina's not talking about limiting gun sales to anyone, but people who want to voluntarily say, I don't need to buy a gun. So I hope you'll listen to her story. She's passionate and she wants to save people like her mom. Katrina, can you tell SelfWork listeners about why you are, you know, of course about your mother and then how you're using her death as a momentum for this incredible project and incredible legislation? Speaker 2: (05:55) Sure. Um, I'll start with what the legislation is. Um, Donna's law is a voluntary tool that people can use to prevent themselves from purchasing a gun. Mm-hmm. . So it enables somebody to put themselves on a list that is confidential, reversible, and does not interfere with the second Amendment in order to prevent an impulsive gun purchase in an episode of suicidality or, or for whatever other reason they want to prohibit themselves from guns, um, from a gun sale. And, um, I lost my mom in 2018 to an impulsive gun suicide. She picked up her phone and she typed in how to hang herself and Google told her that the better idea would be to buy a handgun. Yeah. Um, then helped direct her to the closest gun store where she essentially pressed go on her phone and was dead. Very shortly after that, she took it to the park and she shot herself. I had no idea at that time that it was that easy to buy a gun where we live. I, it, it is still shocking to me and completely uncomfortable that I live in a place where it is that easy and that fast to buy a gun. Um, even for somebody that has absolutely no training, um, no license, no waiting period. Right. Um, she had been, uh, in psychiatric hospitalization three times before this that did not. And Speaker 1: (07:41) She had gone voluntarily for those. Correct. She, because she really wanted help and she knew she had bipolar disorder and she accepted that and she was working with her doctors, and there were times when she was really well, I mean, well mm-hmm. , she was doing great. She was managing bipolar disorder well mm-hmm. Speaker 2: (07:59) . Yeah. Uh, and our family really did everything and she did everything, and she was very knowledgeable. Our our family has many doctors in it. We were very supportive. Um, we were on top of it every day. . Yeah. Um, my mom's partner, even during this episode that she was having quit his job and stayed home all day long with her to supervise her, and it still wasn't enough. Mm-hmm. Um, because it was just minutes away from her being able to get a gun. And, um, so I mean, immediately after this happened to my family, I was like, how could this be like? Right. I talked to some lawyer friends that had guns, and I was like, do, "How could my mom be sold a gun after she was in the psychiatric hospital?" This, you know, I thought that was impossible. And, um, everything about the gun sale was legal. And, um, at that point I was just completely committed to, to changing that and, um, used the massive tidal wave of energy, that grief and trauma. That's right. And shock . And I surfed this, that wave of energy into Donna's law immediately. I mean, within, within 24 hours of knowing about her death, I was having conversations with, um, the gun policy maker for Amnesty International, and we were conceiving this legislation. Um, it was it very immediate that, that I chose to This Speaker 1: (09:51) Is how you were grieving. I mean, this is how Speaker 2: (09:53) You Yeah. And I was, I was scared too of, of, um, other ways that I could get into to, I don't know, process that trauma. Um, you know, I've, uh, I have a lot of friends that have experienced trauma, and I've watched them after that make their lives worse in a lot of ways. Yes, Speaker 1: (10:18) It Speaker 2: (10:19) Can. And having something like this happen, it was so obvious how I could make my life worse immediately to me, . Uh, and, uh, and, and Speaker 1: (10:30) That happens a lot in a family. That happens in with friends that happens, you know, in communities. Um, there's certainly, uh, a there can I say my words this morning? There's certainly an, an acknowledgement and a in a lot of research has gone into that, that people hear that someone died by suicide, and then they think, well, then I will, you know? Mm-hmm. . Yeah. It's, it's, it's, um, the person who dies by suicide doesn't mean for that to happen. It's not an intentional act to try to, uh, create that dynamic, but it does create that dynamic. Speaker 2: (11:04) Yes. Um, I was shocked by how loud the voice to shoot myself was immediately after that. And, um, thank you. And I, I knew the gun store, the gun dealer's business card was left on my mom's passenger seat. I had like, so many fantasies of going over there and buying a gun and shooting myself and, um, pushing myself into doing Donna's law brought into my life, many survivors of similar tragedies. Um, and, um, like with Mom's Demand Action, I mean, there I felt like all of a sudden I had a million moms that had wanted to . Speaker 1: (11:58) Well, you know, it, it also, for years we've had, um, we've had a policy in place where gambling people with gambling addictions can mm-hmm. can sign up at the, at the casinos, don't let me in the door, you know? Mm-hmm. , uh, they're literally barring themselves from gambling. And it's something that, uh, they do voluntarily and they do because they know it's a problem. And, and it's something about putting that hurdle in front of it. They can, again, renege on it and say, okay, I, I wanna take my name off, but it's completely voluntary. And that's exactly what you're saying. One of the reasons why I, you know, I, I live in a state where there are a lot of people. I, I live in Arkansas and there are a lot of people that have guns. There are a lot of people, you know, I have guns all over the United States, but this is not about challenging that. Speaker 1: (12:45) It's about challenging the idea that, um, so many firearms deaths are suicides, 60 to 65% of them, I think mm-hmm. Suicides. And we tend to think of it, the homicidal part of it, and we don't think of the suicidal part of it. So in, in essence, you're saying someone with major depression or someone who literally has just gone through some trauma themselves and realized that's beginning to crop up in their thinking. They don't have to have a diagnosis of a mental illness. It's simply that they know they are in a bad place, and it is a prohibition for them. Uh, it's like alcoholics not going in a, in a bar , you know? Mm-hmm. , uh, I know I can't, you know, I may not be able to resist that thought, and so I'm going to prohibit myself. I'm gonna stop myself before I even get started. Speaker 2: (13:34) Yeah. I wanted to, um, add two things I've learned about the things you're talking about is, uh, one in Pennsylvania right now, there is a bill to enable people to opt out of their ability to purchase alcohol from, uh, really I believe a state, a state liquor store. Um, so, uh, this type of, um, self contract is sometimes called a Ulysses Pact, um, from Homer, the Odyssey that, um, he ties himself to the boat to avoid the, the songs of the sirens and is able to like survive. I guess I haven't read the book . Um, and then the other thing I wanted to point out, uh, um, the gambling one is everyone who has talked to me about being on the list of the gambling prohibition is also someone who is bipolar. And, um, destroying one's finances is often something that can happen easily when someone is a, in an psychotic episode or in a mania. Um, so p people who know that, that there are times where they will make, um, better decisions and there will be times that they'll make worse decisions, um, I believe should be able to utilize these tools. Um, and I hope there becomes more of them. I love the idea of someone being able to, to stop their ability to buy alcohol. Yes. Um, I mean, what a beautiful tool that is. Speaker 1: (15:08) Now three states have passed Donna's law, correct? Speaker 2: (15:12) Yes. Virginia, Utah, and Washington. Speaker 1: (15:15) Tell me about your mom. Speaker 2: (15:17) She was very funny and she was very smart, educated, worldly. She loved music and dance. She was so generous to everybody. She had a huge heart for any animal, whether it was a lizard or a human. If it was suffering, she would be the first to intervene and try and protect that creature. Um, she was, uh, she had a lot of struggle with, um, mental illness throughout her life and worked incredibly hard to protect herself from suicide, um, which made Donna's life even more obvious because she really was an incredible advocate for her own mental health care, and so was I. And so was her partner. And, um, uh, there was a lot of strength in her, in her care circle. Mm-hmm. . Um, she had recently had a step grand baby that she was super excited about, and there was another one coming and, um, Speaker 1: (16:38) Oh, I can see that's a, that's a very tender spot. Yeah. Speaker 2: (16:41) Yeah. Like, it's like, I just know she didn't wanna miss that. Mm-hmm. Speaker 1: (16:47) Mm-hmm. And that's the thing, one of the, somebody listening who doesn't know a lot about bipolar disorder or mental illness in general is that when those, I'll call them voices or that energy or that impulsivity, when, when it is going on, you can completely lose sight of who you are at your most stable. It's almost as if there's a part of you that gets turned off. Um, mm-hmm. , did she have any psychotic episodes, or did she just have the bipolar disorder Speaker 2: (17:21) In the last year of her life? She had, um, very obvious psychotic episodes. Okay. And things like hearing voices. Right. And, um, extreme paranoia. Um, Speaker 1: (17:37) Mostly when she was manic, Speaker 2: (17:41) I, the, the end of her life, I guess it's like mixed state. Okay. Um, it, she was pretty much in like a panic attack for three months and she didn't sleep. And I would say insomnia played a big part in it. And, um, yeah, I mean, she wasn't, she wasn't really making any bad decisions. She was really just like in her house suffering. There Speaker 1: (18:13) Were a lot of Okay. She was fighting, fighting, fighting. Speaker 2: (18:15) Yeah. There was a lot of physical things happening to her also, um, with, uh, the medications that they were trying on her. And she had very intense tremors, and her hands shook so bad that, um, for the last several months of her life, she couldn't hold a fork because she would just stab her face and she had to eat all her food with like a, like her paw mm-hmm. , um, just bringing it to her mouth and, um, she couldn't write very well, um, because her hands were shaking, um, which made it even more offensive that a gun dealer would sell her a gun. Speaker 1: (19:04) Right, right. Uh, it is almost, it's impossible that she could have curbed all that and walked in and been looking much more normal. And obviously there were some things going on there that the gun dealer would've noticed. Mm-hmm. , what, what has establishing this, um, well, what, let me ask you this. What are y'all doing currently? Um, it's, the bill has been introduced to Congress, but they have not done anything. Is that, is that correct? Speaker 2: (19:32) Well, they've done a lot, but it hasn't progressed Speaker 1: (19:36) . Okay, okay. Speaker 2: (19:37) But they do invest a lot of resources that I appreciate, and there are offices there that are very busy working, so to say they've done nothing, um, wouldn't be fair to the, to the efforts. Speaker 1: (19:50) Did you get a lot of of feedback from your CBS um, interview? I bet you did. Speaker 2: (19:55) Oh, yeah. And so positive, I mean, I, I didn't get anything negative. I mean, I probably got like 200 emails that were so supportive and, um, lots more like interviews like with you and, uh, I love podcasting, so other podcasts and, um, other news sources and, um, it's also, it's made me realize like a lot of people were like, I wanna bring this to my state, which is amazing, but, um, I did not. Well, Speaker 1: (20:31) How do people do that? That's what I was gonna ask you next. Speaker 2: (20:33) Well, that was the next piece of work I had to do. So I created a Donna's Law Starter Pack the last couple weeks, and I've been creating all the templates and strategies for people to be able to do that in the most efficient, um, no cost way. Mm-hmm. . Um, and so essentially it just involves, um, choosing who the potential sponsors in your state could be, which will most likely be someone who has already sponsored a suicide prevention bill. Um, looking, also, another option of who it could be is, um, someone that's on the committee that will be determining whether this moves forward or not, um, because they have a stake in it and they have relationships with other people on that committee. Um, so it's, it, it's pretty fast to just identify a very small amount of people in a state and then just try to send them some of the letters that I've created templates for. And I feel like, um, excuse me, uh, I feel like I've created something that someone can hopefully just put a couple minutes into, a couple times a month and, um, perhaps if the climate's right in their state, bring it forward. Speaker 1: (22:00) How has, I mean, how have you grieved your mom? Speaker 2: (22:04) Um, I don't, I don't, I can't, I don't have like another dead mom to compare it to , so Speaker 1: (22:10) You're funny . Speaker 2: (22:13) So I'm not sure what it's like otherwise, but I do feel like it's been an incredible privilege and opportunity to have the support of the media at very difficult times and moments in my grief. And a lot of those people like you are in the mental health field, talk to me, um, and asking me specific questions that make me think and that lead my thinking into, um, Speaker 1: (22:52) Uh, Speaker 2: (22:52) How, how I was able to use this to help me, you know? And I think that one of the big things is not feeling shame. That's right. Not not feeling like zero shame. Like, I have zero shame that my mom shot herself. I mean, I have a stack of shames, and this is not on the list. Speaker 1: (23:16) , it's not even in the list. It's, it's not even the, what is that old fairy tale? The princess and the pea it's not even the pea . Right. . Speaker 2: (23:26) Um, so I, I assume that's beneficial. Um, it's been amazing to see my mom's picture like being waived at Congress by representatives. And, and there's this part of all this that feels like my mom is kind of like an organ donor. Like, like, because like she gets to donate her story and her photo, and that is so valuable to legislation. Speaker 1: (24:06) She is the person that, she's Donna, I mean, she mm-hmm. , she, her, her life and her death, the way she lived her life and, and then the way she killed herself is going to be honored. Uhhuh is honored by this law. There are... there's people's lives that she will save. Speaker 2: (24:27) Yeah. And, um, Speaker 1: (24:28) And you'll save by the way. Speaker 2: (24:30) Thank you. And you'll save as well. Um, I think that another aspect of it is like, when this first happened, um, I was dating this guy and he had this really great family, and one of my feelings like right away was like, "Oh my God, like his family is gonna think I'm, you know, unstable and Right. They're probably gonna think that I'm gonna do it, and now they know my mom is how she is." And I just felt like I can't, I can't let this be the end of my mom's story because that doesn't, that doesn't feel good to me for the end of her story to be that. Then she put a bullet in her head alone in a park. Um, but having the end of her story be that then she became a law that empowered people with a tool for self-defense Speaker 1: (25:40) Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: (25:41) Against one of the most common ways that people die in our country Speaker 1: (25:50) And the most lethal the most, yeah. Yeah. The most, the, the, the quote unquote best way to Yeah. As Google told your mom. Speaker 2: (25:59) And, um, another, another way that it's really helped me is, um, well meeting amazing people that really care about this and are willing to talk about it, because I can't really like be talking about gun suicide on like dates and stuff all the time. . Speaker 1: (26:17) Yeah. Now, you know, the world of a, a therapist, some people go, no, can't you talk about something else? Speaker 2: (26:22) . Right, right. Speaker 1: (26:24) Are you any fun? Speaker 2: (26:25) Right. But, and I'm like, but this is inspiring and innovative . Um, another way that it's really helped me is, um, meeting advocates of the bill that are bipolar people that have experienced suicidality and want to opt out of their ability to purchase a gun. Mm-hmm. . And through meeting them, it's really helped me understand what my mom was going through. And it's given me so much more respect for her. And I regret that in her life. I thought that she should work harder to hold it together. Yeah. Because now I realize that she was working as hard as she could Speaker 1: (27:11) Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: (27:12) And that she was holding a lot together. Speaker 1: (27:16) You know, I, I think with any, any kind of chronic mental illness, it's, that is a, that is a fight in and of itself because it is the chronicity of it and people watch you dealing with it and they don't know how hard you, you know, how hard it is to get outta bed or how hard it is to control those impulses or to deal with hearing voices. I mean, it's just, and that was her every day. Mm-hmm. . And I think it's difficult for other people to understand and so that you've gotten a firsthand account from these folks about Yeah. It is a, it is a huge job to, to control this kind of illness. Speaker 2: (27:55) Yeah. Um, Speaker 1: (27:57) Or try to control it. Speaker 2: (27:59) Yeah. And also, um, being able to say that my mom shot herself is something that was not allowed on, on the news four years ago. Really. And I have, yeah. I mean, even when I go on YouTube to watch my own interview on CBS Sunday morning, it gives me two content warnings and a recommendation for the suicide helpline. Just cuz I wanna watch my own interview mm-hmm. Speaker 1: (28:27) mm-hmm. . Speaker 2: (28:29) I mean that is, but I can, I mean, I can see some horrific scene from the Ukraine war and the media doesn't mind showing me that mm-hmm. Speaker 1: (28:39) . Speaker 2: (28:40) Um, so Speaker 1: (28:41) That's a great point. Speaker 2: (28:42) But my mom deserves some of the credit for how this conversation has really opened up and, um, given the country a way to talk about it that isn't so depressing and is kind of inspiring . Mm-hmm. Speaker 1: (28:55) , it's more than kinda of inspiring. It's inspiring. Speaker 2: (28:59) Thank you very much. Um, so Donna's law isn't just gonna protect the, that 65% mm-hmm. , um, from suicide. It's also gonna protect people from accidentally, or not accidentally, but in an episode to shoot somebody that they love. Mm-hmm. , I mean, I was think, I was looking at data today about the percentage of men that shoot themselves after shooting their domestic partner. And it, it was, um, I can't remember the state, but it was 59%. And I thought about it and one of the things I do in my work is I don't fight for gun control. I'm not fighting and I'm definitely not fighting gun enthusiasts about it. No. Speaker 1: (29:45) Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: (29:46) , um, I compassion for, um, gun violence prevention and that compassion starts with me compassion for the other person if I expect them to compassion for me. And so I was looking at that data today about men who shoot their partner and I thought if I had just shot my partner, I would want to shoot myself Speaker 1: (30:10) Mm-hmm. Speaker 2: (30:10) , you know, like, what a sad thing. I mean, what an awful, horrific thing to experience mm-hmm. to shoot your partner. And I wanna protect those people too. Speaker 1: (30:25) Well, you know, I'm thinking as you were talking about this, advocating for greater awareness and acceptance that this is what's happening. Uh, I have noticed, uh, and again, I, I live in a pretty conservative state, but I have noticed that when more and more people who are dying by suicide, their families are choosing to include that in the obituary. Mm-hmm. , their families are including, they, they, they want that to be known. So how is this changing you as a person, Katrina? How, how has Speaker 2: (30:56) Changed Oh, so much changed your Speaker 1: (30:57) Family? How's it Speaker 2: (30:58) It has changed my family. Um, when I first started doing this work, my family, except for one person, showed me zero support about it. Speaker 1: (31:08) Wow. Speaker 2: (31:09) And I, it's been, it was years before. I got real acknowledgement from my family of support on this work. And I was even told not to do this work by my family. I was told that what I was talking about was like nonsense. Speaker 1: (31:34) Wow. Speaker 2: (31:35) Um, I was, I think that there was a lot of fear because they Speaker 1: (31:38) Were, was that, did that come from their own humiliation or their own shame or? Speaker 2: (31:42) I think it came from their fear of me putting my life on the line to discuss gun control in America. Speaker 1: (31:49) I see. Right. Speaker 2: (31:50) Impulsive gun suicide is, did not begin in my family with my mom. There were four other suicides in our family before my mom that, um, having my mom's death be in the newspaper, having me ask questions cuz reporters were asking questions and learning about my own family history of suicide, um, has really opened up the conversation. Um, and I mean, our family for generations has been defined by suicide. And then, um, almost all parts of my family have experienced suicide on like, people say like, um, oh, was there bipolar on your mom's side? And it's like, no, but there's a ton of it on my dad's side. Speaker 1: (32:42) . Really? Wow. Speaker 2: (32:45) So like, it, um, it, it's like coming at me on both sides now and, um, it has really opened up the conversation from my family's elders that have experienced a lot of these losses and also, um, how does my generation in our family protect each other? Mm-hmm. . And, um, I mean, I still don't see a lot of my family like sharing my articles on social media or, or much like that, but they'll text me and, you know, tell me that they're proud of it. Um. Speaker 1: (33:26) Good. I'm glad. I'm glad. Speaker 2: (33:28) So it's, it's evolving and, um, I'm gonna keep going and I assume that they're gonna keep opening up about it and I hope at some point they're gonna be testifying in their states in front of their legislatures in support of this mm-hmm. . Um, because it's it's coming to their states soon. . Speaker 1: (33:48) . You're gonna make sure of that, it sounds like. Yeah. Speaker 2: (33:52) . Speaker 1: (33:54) Well, it has been an honor talking with you and I really appreciate this so much. Speaker 2: (33:58) Oh, thank you so much. I really appreciate being able to, um, share this knowledge with your, with your listeners and with you. It's been a beautiful conversation. Great. Speaker 1: (34:19) Thanks so much for listening in to self work today. It's an honor for you to be here and I so appreciate the fact that you are here and you give us your time. This week you may notice a new sponsor of Self-Work. It's the Jordan Harbinger Show and the ad is in a different format, what's called an intra cast, so that you can listen to that information in just a couple of minutes. It'll be listed as the second episode in your podcast app. I found his show to be entertaining and intriguing, and I more than welcome his team to self-work. Please take very good care, as I say, every episode of yourself, your family, the people you care about, and your community. I'm Dr. Margaret and this has been self-work.    

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*In Shoe Dog, the famously reticent founder of Nike opens up to tell the story of how he transformed a $50 loan into a multibillion-dollar business. *Opening with Knight on a brisk morning run, aged 24, we're treated to a description of the almost divine manner in which the idea for starting a shoe company first strikes. *Yet the actual making of the future megabrand was founded on Knight's own athletic prowess and business acumen, not to mention his dogged determination. *While his college friends secured “proper jobs” and his father scolded him for “jackassing around” with sports shoes, Knight persevered. By selling shoes from the boot of his car, he managed to turnover $8,000 in his first year. *At the heart of his burgeoning business was a desire to capture the thrill of competition, to do work that didn't feel like working. *As well as providing insights into the highs and lows of running a newly formed company, Shoe Dog shows what happens when you stop playing by society's rules and decide to follow your heart. Theme 1: Knight's Crazy Idea - 0:29 Theme 2: Knight's Entrepreneurial Journey & Purpose -11:55 Theme 3: The Buttfaces - 26:06 Like what you hear? Be sure to like & subscribe to support this podcast! Also leave a comment and let us know your thoughts on the episode. You can also get a free weekly email about the Book Insight of the week. Subscribe at memod.com/insights Want quick save-able, share-able bullet points on this book? Check out the Memo: https://memod.com/TomBBBusiness/how-the-story-of-nike-s-tough-early-days-can-inspi-594/part-1 HEAR THE FULL INTERVIEWS MENTIONED IN TODAYS' EPISODE HERE: Archive, Investors. “Billionaire Phil Knight: Starting Nike, Life and Shoes (2017).” YouTube, YouTube, 12 Sept. 2017, www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQvhAkLF7t0. Bloomberg Markets and Finance, Bloomberg Markets and. “The David Rubenstein Show: Phil Knight.” YouTube, YouTube, 28 June 2017, www.youtube.com/watch?v=brkdw_5umYY. Carmichael, Evan. “Chris Guillebeau's Top 10 Rules For Success (@Chrisguillebeau).” YouTube, YouTube, 26 May 2016, www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDEksMt3S9s. Chapters, Indigo |. “In Conversation: Phil Knight and Indigo CEO Heather Reisman.” YouTube, YouTube, 24 May 2016, www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EhX62tPsGw. Institute of Passion. “Steve Jobs Talking about Passion in Work at D5 Conference 2007.” YouTube, YouTube, 6 Jan. 2017, www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_SKFUHlW9Y. Morning, CBS Sunday. “How Phil Knight's ‘Crazy Idea' Conquers the Sporting World.” YouTube, YouTube, 24 Apr. 2016, www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxWJTo-0eyk. The Late Show with Stephen Colbert. “Phil Knight Made A Pair Of Nikes Just For Stephen.” YouTube, YouTube, 29 Apr. 2016, www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTQMi-CBcMg. Full Title: Shoe Dog: A Memoir by the Creating of Nike Year of Publication: 2016 Book Author: Phil Knight To purchase the complete edition of this book click here: https://a.co/d/1g3gx0K Book Insight Writer: Joe Barnes Editor: Tom Butler-Bowden Producer: Daniel Gonzalez Production Manager: Karin Richey Curator: Tom Butler-Bowden Narrator: Robin Gabrielli

You asked for it! Grizzly and Angela Ford Together! Mondays at 6:00PM EST Time Every Monday! This Monday 03-13-23! 6:00 PM EST TIME! Psychic Angela Ford talks about psychics, How to deal work with them, what to ask plus open mic night! Yes! Come on our show live and ask questions! Here is your chance to speak directly to Angela Ford! Angela Dellafiora Ford was born and raised in Western Pennsylvania. She received a Bachelor's Degree in political science from the Indiana University of Pennsylvania. For over 32 years, she worked for the Intelligence Community in Washington, D.C. While working for the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA), Angela participated in the psychic phenomenon program STAR GATE and worked as a remote viewer for nine years. In June 1999, the Discovery channel aired a reenactment of a case that Angela solved for U.S. Customs in 1989. Scott Carmichael, a former DIA investigator, wrote a kindle book called Unconventional Method. It describes how Angela used her abilities and helped catch an Australian spy in 1999. In December 2015, Angela was invited to Moscow by the Russian newspaper Rossiyskaya Gazeta to attend a reception in honor of two books written about the U.S. and Soviet psychic programs. During her stay, she appeared on two Russian television programs. Angela retired from government work in 2010 and now divides her time between freelance assignments for civilian agencies and working with Dr. Ed May at The Laboratories of Fundamental Research (LFR) in Mountain View, California. In addition to exploring psi phenomena, LFR is a center for interdisciplinary research devoted to understanding a wide range of human experiences. Angela also teaches at the Monroe Institute in Faber, Virginia, a leading education center for studying human consciousness. Angela was given a special acknowledgment in former Secretary of Defense William Cohen's book Murder in the Senate. She is also written about in Annie Jacobsen's book Phenomena: The Secret History of the U.S. Government's Investigations into Extrasensory Perception and Psychokinesis. A Newsweek article dated November 15, 2015, mentions Angela and her work in the paranormal field, and she appeared on CBS Sunday morning on March 18 and August 19, 2019. Angela lives with her husband Alan and their two cats near the Chesapeake Bay in Maryland. One can contact Angela at her email fordangela04@gmail.com. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/grizzly-onthehunt/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/grizzly-onthehunt/support

Bishop airs some of the comments Illinois Gov. J.B. Pritzker made on CBS Sunday about local school board races and takes calls.

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The Chat Reel of Caribbean Radio Show Airs 3am Jerusalem time on November 15th, and 8pm Eastern American time November 14th.  Central Time 7pm  Pacific Time 5pm  Join us as we talk to special Guest Nicole Franklin she is the co - founder of Coo at 3 Quality She is the Executive Producer and Co - host at Before you go, Board member at Bayer YMCA, , President and Senior director at EPIP. She studied Mass Communication at Illnois University, a contributing author at the good men project. Contributor at buyblacks.com 2014 to present. She is also the founder of Hack4Hope  She is a former Assistant Professor at Hofstra University. A former writer at Kevin Anderson and associates /ghost writer editor publishing navigation.Former contributor at NBCBLK Former video editor at CBS/ Sunday morning at CBS news Former free lance editor/ stage manager at NBC. She also studied Liberal studies at Ramapo College of New Jersey. She is also a film maker.

In this week's CBS Sunday sit-down, Brandi Carlile chats with Willie Geist about the performance that changed the trajectory of her career and how she embraced it! Julia is back and she went to an amazing Chris Stapleton concert this weekend!

Join me in an interview with remote viewer and psychic Angela Ford as we discuss automatic writing and her time in the Project Star Gate remote viewing program.  Angela was one of the few female remote viewers in the program and the only one to my knowledge to use automatic writing, a process that became known in the remote viewing unit as Written Remote Viewing or WRV. In this interview Angela discusses her introduction to the psychic arts and automatic writing, her use of this approach in the remote viewing unit, and how she has continued to use this and other tools to explore and teach the psychic arts.Angela Dellafiora Ford was born and raised in Western Pennsylvania. She received a Bachelor's Degree in political science from Indiana University of Pennsylvania. For over 32 years, she worked for the Intelligence Community in Washington, D.C. While working for the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA), Angela participated in the psychic phenomenon program STAR GATE and worked as a remote viewer for nine years.In June 1999, the Discovery channel aired a reenactment of a case that Angela solved for U.S. Customs in 1989. She was able to locate Charles Jordan, a Special Agent of the U.S. Customs Service in Lovell, Wyoming. Jordan took millions of dollars in bribes, allowing thousands of dollars' worth of drugs to be smuggled into the U.S. via the Florida Keys. When Jordan learned he was a suspect, he fled. Jordan was finally apprehended in Yellowstone National Park.Scott Carmichael's Kindle book, Unconventional Method, published in 2014, details the step-by-step process in how eight DIA employees engaged to determine whether Angela could provide information to identify a spy. The individual secretly met with a Singaporean military attaché in Bangkok, Thailand, and offered a quantity of classified American imagery for sale.In December 2015, Angela was invited to Moscow by the Russian newspaper Rossiyskaya Gazeta to attend a reception in honor of two books written about the U.S. and Soviet psychic programs. During her stay, she appeared on two Russian television programs.Angela retired from government work in 2010 and now divides her time between freelance assignments for civilian agencies and working with Dr. Ed May at The Laboratories of Fundamental Research (LFR) in Mountain View, California. In addition to exploring psi phenomena, LFR is a center for interdisciplinary research devoted to understanding a wide range of human experiences. Angela also teaches at the Monroe Institute in Faber, Virginia, a leading education center for studying human consciousness.Angela was given a special acknowledgment in former Secretary of Defense William Cohen's book Murder in the Senate. She is also written about in Annie Jacobsen's book Phenomena: The Secret History of the U.S. Government'sInvestigations into Extrasensory Perception and Psychokinesis. A Newsweek article dated November 15, 2015, mentions Angela and her work in the paranormal field, and she appeared on CBS Sunday morning on March 18 and August 19, 2019.Angela lives with her husband Alan and their two cats near the Chesapeake Bay in Maryland.One can contact Angela on her cell at 443 624 5874 or email at fordangela04@gmail.com.Our websites:https://globalmeditationnetwork.comhttps://www.facebook.com/GlobalMeditationNetworkhttp://www.youtube.com/c/Globalmeditationnetwork

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In the spring of 1950, network radio revenue was falling for the first time since 1933. There were now over twenty-six-hundred AM and FM stations vying for advertising dollars. The US also spent the first ten months of 1949 in a recession while TV was becoming a serious threat to both prime time Network Radio and Hollywood films. Over a hundred TV stations were on the air, and radio's top fifty program ratings were down thirty-percent in just two years since the record high of 1947-48. Only The Lux Radio Theater and Jack Benny had ratings higher than twenty. Meanwhile, the TV networks reported a combined income of more than twenty-nine-million dollars. The world was changing too. The U.S. was on the brink of war with Korea. During the week of March 26th, Wisconsin junior senator Joseph McCarthy named five ​​U.S. State Department employees as potential Communists. The senator's actions placed him firmly in the crosshairs of Edward R. Murrow. Two-time Republican Presidential nominee Thomas Dewey was relegated to voice of reason. It would be four years before McCarthyism came to an end while Cold War fears continued to escalate. That Spring, with both science-fiction and UFOs en vogue, multiple shows focused on flying saucers within individual episode plots. On March 26th, 1950 The Red Skelton Show presented “Flying Saucers.” One of the co-stars was famed radio character actress Lurene Tuttle. Skelton was airing over CBS Sunday nights at 8:30PM eastern time. His March rating was 15.6, but his season number was 13.5. It was 14th overall, but down seven points from two years prior. On March 29th, RCA made their first color television demonstration. Their system would eventually be accepted by the FCC and would become the standard for broadcasting.The next fall Skelton took his show into TV where it would air until 1971.

Monday 6/13/22 Hour 1 - Steve says PGA Commission Jay Monahan looked 'unsteady' during is interview on CBS Sunday, and former Spikes player Evan Mendoza shares his path to his NFT project known as DiamondDawgs, which will be celebrated at an upcoming Spikes game.

The power of our voice is more than expressing ourselves; it is building community, taking a stand, and sitting at the table with confidence and boldness. Listen in as Samara Bay speech and dialect coach inspire us to find our voices and use them.   Please visit www.SamaraBay.com and pre-order Permission to Speak by Samara Bay.   Samara Bay is a speech and dialect coach whose clients include top actors in Hollywood and leading professionals in politics, business, tech, and creative fields. She's run workshops and masterclasses at organizations and universities around the U.S. and abroad, including her alma mater, Princeton. Her work on rethinking the sound of power has been featured in The New York Times Magazine, Forbes, CBS Sunday  morning, Slate, Create & Cultivate, and Jezebel, and her first book is slated for early 2023: Permission to Speak, published by Crown, a division of Penguin Random House.   As a dialect coach, she's worked with Gal Gadot (Red Notice, Wonder Woman 1984), Rachel McAdams (Eurovision), Penelope Cruz and Edgar Ramirez (American Crime Story: Versace, Emmy and Golden Globe nominations for both actors), and on projects for Amazon, HBO, Netflix, Apple, Sony, and Marvel. An article about her work called “The Accent Whisperers of Hollywood” appeared in The New York Times Magazine and she was recently featured on CBS Sunday morning and Tamron Hall on ABC.   She received media training from Media Matters as a member of Al Gore's Climate Reality Project, improv training from the Upright Citizens' Brigade, and speech training from world-renowned teachers based at Juilliard, The Royal Shakespeare Company, ACT, Brown, and Yale. She sits on the advisory board of Hollywood social action group Young Entertainment Activists as well as the world's first community-led accent app, Spikizi. She received a BA in English from Princeton University and an MFA in acting from Brown University.     Want to be considered as a guest on the podcast? Complete this form: https://form.jotform.com/gedudley/NIM_Podcast_Form Interested in launching a podcast, blog, or media broadcast? Visit Power in Partnership https://gaildudley.com/power-in-partnership/ Follow Gail Instagram and Twitter: @GailDudley and @NIMwithGail Facebook: www.Facebook.com/NewsInMotion Subscribe to Gail's YouTube: www.YouTube.com/GailDudley Become a patron on the Gail Dudley Patreon page: www.Patreon.com/GailDudley 

Welcome to the PGA Championship Preview Show… We will be talking about all things Phill Mickelson withdrawing from the event Tiger Woods Defending at Southern Hills In Tulsa Oklahoma Hit a 347-yard drive and was hitting stingers… Bryson is back but could be banged up after being in a cast for his wrist injury. Rickie Fowler making waves and not counting out LIV Golf. PGA Championship should have been played at Trump National Jack Nicholas Agress with the thought of canceling culture. Picks for this week's Major Championship Long Shot… Tiger Woods…+6500 Windy, great iron play, and a golf course that is not a ski slope to walk. A top 10 finish Jordan Spieth+1600 Well he has finished with a win and runner-up finish in his last two starts. Winner Winner Chicken Dinner… Brooks Koepka +3300 How To Watch… Thursday, May 19: 2-8 p.m. (ESPN) Friday, May 20: 2-8 p.m. (ESPN) Saturday, May 21: 10 a.m.-1 p.m. (ESPN); 1-7 p.m. (CBS) Sunday, May 22: 10 a.m.-1 p.m. (ESPN); 1-7 p.m. (CBS) Read our Golf Email Newsletter Sign up Below https://www.thealohapress.com/ Support the Show by Shopping in our Pro Shop https://www.thealohapress.com/tap-store Follow our Journey on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/thealohapress/  

Stories we can't get enough of: Pamela Anderson was on the view talking about two major projects she has coming up! Hollywood News: Flight Attendant Season 2 trailer is out and Sharon Stone will be in it as her mother! John Ham talks about his role in the new Top Gun movie and what it was like working with Tom Cruise.

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Bob Odenkirk talks about his heart attack last year; Access Hollywood has a new segment that focuses on helping to find missing people of color; Ryan Reynolds opens up about his anxiety on CBS Sunday morning;

Parker Molloy: My guest today is Matt Negrin, a senior producer for the Daily Show with Trevor Noah. And just about the only person on the planet, I know who gets more irritated about the way politics gets covered in the media than I do. Matt, thank you so much for joining me.Matt Negrin: No, I'm obviously happy to have a contest with you about who is more angry at the media on a daily basis. It's a contest in which we both lose so full in on it.Well, I was thinking about this. So this is going to be the first episode of my podcast for the new year, because I had to take a month off because I was just like, “Why am I doing this?”I take a month off because I celebrate January 6th privately. And so I really just a full-on month of just remembrance.Yeah. Well, I mean, if Christmas starts in November, January 6th starts in December.January 6th creep is a real issue that we need to address, people are putting up their January 6th gallows way too early.So I feel like the two of us started the Trump years as relatively sane individuals who just happened to consume a lot of news media. What happened to us?The question is how did we become totally crazy while also feeling that we're the only sane people in a world in which everyone else is crazy, right?Yeah. Pretty much.To me, it feels like the beginning of the Trump years, or the beginning of the Trump term was like, okay, obviously this is a catastrophe, but maybe, just maybe our trusted news media will do the right thing and we'll hold this guy accountable. We'll check him, we'll provide a level of accountability that you and I haven't seen in our lifetimes really. And obviously, that didn't happen. So I think the ongoing frustration with that is what has, at least for me just made me question what is going on with this industry that I was a part of? That I spent almost a decade in, how did I not see that this was kind of inevitable? And then when I left the industry, I was like, all right, now I feel like I can talk about this stuff freely, which is kind of a bad sign that people in journalism can't talk about what's really happening.And that's been kind of the undertone I think of journalists will tell you privately in the DMs that they agree with what you're saying, but will never say it publicly. And that's bad.The Present Age is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a subscriber.Yeah, well, on that sort of the same kind of thought, I get a lot of people who will text me or DM me to say they liked something I wrote and I'm like, "Cool. I would appreciate a retweet." And they're like, "Sorry, I can't."It's just, "I'll get in trouble if I do that." I've heard from so many people at newspapers and TV networks who say the same thing. And they're like, "God, you're so right. Thank you for doing this. This really needed to be called out." And my response is always, "You are totally in a position to call this out yourself." And they all say, "Ah, you know I can't do that." And it's like, “ha ha.” Yeah. Well, that's fun. Thanks for your help. But I'm just going to sit back and let this profile of Greg Gutfeld just kind of go out and get tweeted about, and I won't do anything about it.Yeah. “I won't criticize it because I don't want to get in trouble with the bosses.”Exactly. I don't want to mention how we gave a platform to Josh Hawley. I don't want to be the person who does that. It's not my role. Yeah.So speaking of giving a platform to Josh Hawley and giving a platform to Ron Johnson and giving a platform to Roger Marshall and Rick Scott and Mike Ron, and all of those. So is Chuck Todd your nemesis? And does he know that he's your nemesis?Okay. The word “nemesis” requires the person to acknowledge your existence. So I think the answer is no, I don't think he has ever once acknowledged at least explicitly, any of the good faith. I would say criticisms about Meet the Press, but I've heard from enough people to know that like yeah, he's aware of it. They're aware of it. They're all aware of it. And one of the NBCPR guys, Richard Hudock has engaged with me on Twitter. So has another producer for Meet the Press. So yeah, they're aware, but they do not respond anymore and I think part of it is because they probably know it's not a good look to be fighting on Twitter. But also I think they know that some of these things are indefensible.So you can't defend Chuck Todd for putting Roger Marshall, who is a Senator who voted to overturn the election on Meet the Press. You can't defend that. It's an obvious message that Chuck Todd thinks it's okay to give a platform to people who tried to overturn the election. And that's simply something that if you're a good faith journalist, you probably don't agree with. So I don't relish the idea that there's a guy on TV who is my nemesis, but at the same time, why aren't more people talking about this? It seems very dystopian. I don't know. What was your feeling after January 6th? I feel like there were a bunch of us on the left who were saying we have to hold these people accountable by not giving them platforms or at least by branding them explicitly every time they're mentioned or on the air with a reminder that they did this thing. Right. Do you remember that feeling?Oh yeah. I mean, I wrote an article for Media Matters in December 2020. So it was before January 6th where I was just like, “What they have done is an unacceptable attack on democracy, et cetera, et cetera.” And yeah, so then of course, then January 6th happens and the-You brought up Mike Braun, that's a triggering person for me because I remember in December, I think it was December 6th, I hope I'm right about that. I'm going to Google it real quick because I'm pretty sure I'm right. I've just ingrained all this stuff into my f*****g head. Yeah. December 6th, 2020, Mike Braun was on ABC's This Week and he floated this conspiracy theory that boxes of ballots were being hidden under a desk in some state and that there was a video showing how the Democrats were trying to steal the election. So this is a month after the election. It's, I guess three weeks after Biden was declared the winner. And you have a sitting senator on ABC talking about this conspiracy theory. That is at the time, the media was feeling out this world, right?“How many senators are going to help Trump try to overturn the election? What is the line?” And Mike Braun was seen as a non-crazy Republican by a lot in the media. And then he goes on This Week and pushes this thing out. To me as a producer or as a host or as a person at ABC that should have been the cutoff line, like okay, we're ending this interview. And it just went on for six minutes. They didn't even talk about the thing they were going to talk about, they just talked about voter fraud and that's millions of people who are seeing that and thinking what is this video? What is he talking about? Maybe there is something to this. That to me was like, Mike Braun is not Josh Hawley, he is not Ted Cruz and that's kind of the point.They can all be pushing this conspiracy theory or different versions of the conspiracy theory. And the media is going to accept them because they don't have this outwardly crazy Marjorie Taylor Greene-ish stain on them. Mike Braun looks like an honorable person, but if you look at what he really does, he goes on Newsmax and talks about the same thing. So that's why that guy is very triggering for me. Months later you have Donie O'Sullivan, who I think is a really sharp reporter at CNN going to these QAnon rallies, interviewing people who are saying the election was stolen. And they specifically cite the thing Mike Braun talked about. So, this is how misinformation spreads. It spreads on mainstream media. And the fact that these networks keep putting these people on, to me, indicates they either don't know their role in it, or they're just totally fine with it. I don't know what another option would be.Yeah. I mean, that's... God, I remember when I first got hired at Media Matters, one of the first things I did was I flew out to DC because we decided to do a thing where I would work in the office one week and then spend a few months working from home and then kind of repeat that. And I flew into DC and I saw a guy wearing a shirt that just had a big letter Q on it, standing on the steps of the Supreme court with a selfie stick, taking a picture where he is making a real tough guy face. And it was just him by himself. And it was the first time I had ever seen anyone in person wearing a QAnon kind of thing. And I thought, “Ha ha, that's so funny.” It's not so funny anymore. Part of the issue is that these views aren't debunked on TV instead what you get is you get, "Hey, do you think Joe Biden won the election?" That's not good. Presenting it as a question is part of the problem.Right. And there are multiple journalists who have done this in GOP primary debates over the past year, there was one in, I think it was Hugh Hewitt who did it in the, oh, what race was it? I can't remember, but he was moderating a debate. And he said, do you believe Joe Biden won the election? Okay. You're a journalist on MSNBC, you should not be allowed to do that. There was another local news reporter in New Mexico who was moderating a special house race primary and, or I think it was actually the general election, and she said, "Who do you think won the 2020 election? And how do you plan to work on work with others who disagree with you?" Don't frame this as an issue, it is not an issue.Part of the problem with the Q stuff that, what you just said made me think of is, when QAnon first started becoming a topic that the mainstream media had to talk about. They did it really poorly. And I remember the Q baby at the Trump rally, someone held up a baby with a Q on the shirt and it was like Q baby. And then QAnon went nuts. And then someone was wearing a Q dress and the letter Q. And so then the media had to be like, all right, let's do QAnon. I remember Lester Holt, the anchor of the NBC Nightly News, doing a whole thing on QAnon, on what is it? And they just really did not do a good job explaining that.This is rooted in antisemitism, a conspiracy theory that feeds a lot of extremist impulses. It's an online-based thing. Ben Collins and a handful of reporters do really good work on this stuff at these networks and the rest of the journalists there just kind of don't, it feels like they don't read it or they don't talk about it. They just kind of say, QAnon, it's part of the right-wing. No, it is so much deeper than that. And it's basically all the people at the January 6th insurrection are QAnon believers. Technically, if you wanted to extrapolate a lot of those views, Kevin McCarthy believes half the s**t in QAnon, but you would never get reporters saying Kevin McCarthy is a QAnon believer because he hasn't said "I'm a QAnon believer." But he does believe that George Soros is in charge of the federal election takeover or whatever. That's a Qanon conspiracy theory. So he is a Q believer. And it shouldn't be weird to say that, it should be the reality.And part of the problem I think is that these things start online and journalists generally seem to not take things that start online seriously, which is a gigantic problem because so much of our lives are online. So you have all these journalists who've been around for 20, 30 years, or whatever. And things are not the same now as they were then. And so you have newer journalists, you have people like Ben Collins who are doing great work with a lot of this internet-based stuff at, in the... Who else? Brandy Zadrozny.Oh yeah. Yeah.Yeah. Brandy Zadrozny and Ben Collins are kind of like the tag team misinformation reporters at NBC.And yet, sometimes NBC will do things that touch on those topics that they don't involve those two and which is just mindblowing.Right. Feels extremely strange. Yeah. Feels extremely weird. Yeah.That's why I find your approach to the internet generally kind of interesting because you're trying to fight misinformation with tweets and with... I like your TikToks.I haven't done them in a while.I know, but they're funny.All right. You know what Parker I'm going to do one today or tomorrow, just because you have formally requested it. I'm taking that as a request.But no, I mean they're good. And TikTok is one of those places where it's one of those things where I start to feel way too old and it's weird kind of aging into something where it's like, “Oh no, a social media platform feels like it's too geared towards the younger kids.”Yeah. But there's a version of TikTok that doesn't have to be that for us. I think TikTok is popular among the generation younger than us because it's so easy to embrace video culture and phone culture. All we have to do is just kind of lean into that. It doesn't have to be us being like, ah, we're the old cranks. It can just be us being like, okay, I'm going to just slightly change the way that I view how to get a message out. There are older people on TikTok who do really, really well. And I think it's because video just comes naturally to them, but the medium is video rather than text. I think that's just the big difference.And I appreciate that you put in the effort to try to find that because I do feel like there's sort of a formula to a lot of the way information travels online and TikTok is a place where a ton of misinformation just thrives because it's harder to check. You can't just do a word search to find something on TikTok. You have to actually find out that some creator on there believes objectively insane stuff.And then go, “Okay, so this person's a Q creator, so what do we do about it?” And I don't know what the answer to that is other than the fact that most of the time, if you bring this up to a lot of the older, the legacy journalists, they will go, well, it's just the internet. That doesn't count.It has the same tone-deafness as an article that's written about people having a reaction to some viral moment. And the headline is like, "The internet loves..." It's like, no, no, no, the internet is a collection of people, they're expressing themselves on the internet. The internet is not a sentient thing. I think the approach to social media has to be, and this might sound very pedantic, but I think that journalists, writers, and kind of like the conversation havers or the conversation starters either rely on social media or use social media to develop their kind of first and second level takes on things. And that's why it's important to get in there early and point out that like, okay, this person, an example from today, Alyssa Farah, who's spreading misinformation about the vaccines, who is hired by CNN, which is insane.Let's get in there early and point out how she was a writer for WorldNetDaily, a conspiracy theorist birther website that was run by her father. And then she worked for Donald Trump for a year, spreading COVID misinformation. And now is hired by CNN. Getting in there early hopefully shapes the way that other people see that story. But a lot of, as you just said, legacy journalists, they might be on Twitter. They might be looking at tweets, but they don't really participate in the conversation.And one example of this that I just remembered was in September 2021. So 3, 4 months ago when Ted Koppel, who is 81 years old, the most legacy journalist you could have, went to Mayberry, the fake town in Andy Griffith. It's like Mount Airy in North Carolina, which is the inspiration for Mayberry. So he goes there to do a trolley tour and talk to Trump voters. And all he did was exactly what you were just saying earlier was like, "Who do you think won the election?" And they're like, "Mm, Donald Trump." And he is like, "Interesting." Like, this was a really bad piece of journalism that CBS Sunday morning aired as how quaint, this cool little town. Oh, the people here have some interesting thoughts. Hey, these are people who are radicalized on Facebook and Fox news. They think that QAnon, they think that Q is the leader of a secret plot. These people are psychos and you should not be giving them this platform. And Ted Koppel has no idea what any of that is about.No. None. He's like, how could you believe this? Well, I mean, because the internet told me. I mean, just as we're discussing this, it was only a couple of days ago that Joe Rogan was pushing some sort of vaccine misinformation on his show, which is kind of his thing.He really leaned into it.Yeah. And someone corrected him and he's like, shifting the goal post to be like, "Well, actually I read somewhere..." And that's all people, I mean, need that's all people need these days is just, "Well, I read somewhere that something agreed with me." I mean, I could write something that says, yeah, the vaccine makes you grow a third arm. I don't know. And, it's not true, but I could put it on the internet.I think the way that this clip, if anyone wants to check this out, I feel like if you go on Twitter and search, Joe Rogan, Josh Zepps, Z-E-P-P-S. You'll find this clip, but it was Joe Rogan pushing this idea that young kids can develop a complication if they get the vaccine. And then this guest was like, you actually have a higher chance of getting it if you get COVID. Rogan was like, no, that's not true. And then they look it up, which is the only thing redeemable about this is, well, at least they looked it up. And then it turns out that Joe Rogan is wrong, what he was saying was false. And then as soon as he realizes he's false, he just questions the nature of journalism.He's like, “Well, how do we know that? When we read these things, it's like, where are we getting this information?” Buddy, you Googled it. You looked it up, this is a reflection of how you do your own research and how you are relying on your own preconceived notions of what is true or false based on what you need to say. And because he knows his listeners want to hear the skepticism, the hesitation, just the falsities, he will lean into it and he'll go back the next day and the day after that and keep pushing it, having not learned a thing, because he's not interested in educating people, he's interested in amassing a following. And that is what you kind of see all across right-wing radio, smaller podcast networks, even these like Fox shows, OAN, Newsmax. It's all people who are probably mostly in on it. They know what they're saying is b******t. And if they happen to believe it, that's even worse. But I feel like most of them don't, they just know that it's really good for them. Although it's impossible for us to know, I'm not in Pete Hegseth's head, he might really not wash his hands. He might really think germs don't exist.See, now you sound like a New York Times reporter circa 2017 where you're like, I” can't say ‘lie.’”“I don't know it's in his heart. I don't know what's in Donald Trump's heart. He might not be lying. He might truly believe, Donald Trump might really believe that Hillary Clinton used the Venezuelan treasury minister's brother to facilitate a deal with Barack Obama's niece. He might believe that. He might believe that and we don't know. And so we have to call it, like an untruth or a false claim.”An “unsupported claim.” “We will give it one Pinocchio.”Oh, man, the Pinocchio system. I mean, if there ever were a metric for how we need to evaluate our world, I love seeing Glen Kessler, the Washington Post Pinocchio guy give Biden four Pinocchios. If you gave Trump four Pinocchios on anything, no one else can ever get four Pinocchios. There cannot be a comparable way to say Joe Biden also did a bad, come on, there is no comparison. Joe Biden misstating a percentage on COVID cases is nowhere close to Donald Trump being like "Ghosts voted in the 2020 election."So in November, Connecticut Senator Chris Murphy tweeted, "The only way fascism wins is if the free press covers fascism versus democracy, like just another cats and dogs political fight." I have bad news for him.First of all, zero Pinocchios.That's true. But that's exactly how it's been so far. And that's what kind of worries me. At the time you quoted that and you wrote "Two hours ago, Chuck Todd invited a fascist big liar on the top-rated Sunday show to state that vaccines don't stop the spread of COVID and didn't offer a chance for a Democrat to respond to anything he said." And I think that kind of sums up where we're at.Parker you giving me the play-by-play of my own tweets is any Tweeter's dream. Let's go back.“And then you got this many likes and then...”Oh my God. Okay. Yeah, it's good. This is net-positive. I think for the cause, which is people in Congress have a bully pulpit. They can go on TV and talk about this stuff. They can tweet stuff. They can give interviews, they can write op-eds. They have an outsized voice in the conversation because of the way that our media respects elected officials for better or worse. So it's good that Chris Murphy, Brian Schatz, Ted Lieu, Eric Swalwell, Tim Ryan, all of these kind of resistors, the lefties are taking up the message for media reform or media awareness, media literacy. I don't really know what to call it. So I like that. I don't think enough of them are doing it to make it as successful as we'd want it to be, but it is good that they're aware of it.And to your point, it also is really unfortunate that the media doesn't really change at all. And it's not just Chuck Todd. I think Chuck Todd is one of the prime examples of it because he has the biggest platform on Sunday mornings and that still has a sizable audience. And it influences a lot of discussion for at least 18 hours on social media. But there are others too, who kind of either agree with the worldview or not the worldview, but agree with the philosophy of we still need to give these people who deny vaccines a real platform, or just giving Ted Cruz a voice on anything seems crazy to me. But there are a lot of journalists in that world who believe it.And so the cats and dogs thing, the political horse race thing is a separate criticism to me. Yes. Politics is covered with this frantic nature of who's up, who did a good zinger, who didn't, and there's a place for that. And it's anything before 2015. That doesn't really longer apply, I think. But that is also different than giving a role or sorry, giving a platform to the people who are rooting for the end of truth and democracy.So it does go hand in hand, obviously, those people who want to cover politics as a horse race also probably think that those people should be given a platform, but they are kind of two different issues for me. And I mean, one of my unpopular among our cohort opinions is that I do think politics can be covered in a horse race way at times.I don't think that's necessarily bad. I think polls are interesting and good for the most part. It's when you're polling things like critical race theory and then running a headline afterward that's calling it education instead of what it really is, which is just racism. And I think the sanitization of those really dark elements of the Republican party is what happens when you cover things through a horse race prism in 2020, 2021, 2022. So that kind of needs to change for us to have a more honest media, but obviously a very low chance of that happening.Yeah. Well, there's, God, there was something recently, let me, I'm just going to find this. So there was a poll that Harvard did and I'm trying to find- Okay. So this poll, this was polled by Harvard's Center for American Political Studies survey.“So how do we even know where we're getting these reports,” I'm being Joe Rogan. “We're Googling stuff and just reading it.” No, I'm kidding. Go ahead.And here was the question. There are only two possible answers. Do you think the schools should promote the idea that people are victims and oppressors based on their race? Or should they teach children to ignore race in all decisions to judge people by their character?Wow, that's amazing. So it was obviously 70% weighted toward the position of “Wait a minute, we shouldn't be doing the bad thing.”It was 63/37 in favor of ignoring race in all decisions.Just great. Wow.And the funny thing is, so someone tweeted, this is an actual question from the survey and Andrew Sullivan responded "And a good one." That's what he said. Well, no, it was not a good question.The idea of doing push polls, in general, is kind of slimy, but something on that, the wording of that is so deliberate and so designed just to get a Fox News headline that it feels, I don't know, it's gross. Ugh. Yeah. I hate hearing that. Oh my God. Some of the words in those things, what was it "completely ignore"?Yeah. Yeah. It was "Should they teach children to ignore race in all decisions to judge people by their character." The fact that they had to add "in all decisions" was like-Isn't Mark Penn part of a polling group that's called Third Way or something, or some middling, his whole, I could be misrepresenting him. I thought he was part of the Third Way thing or No Labels or something.He is the Stagwell group. I don't know what that is even, but…I was going to say some of these fake Democrats, or fake centrist people are part of this idea that there has to be a third option. It doesn't have to be Democrats or Republicans, oh, but your question here is two very extreme options right now. If only there were a third way or a more purpleish answer to this quagmire.The funny thing is, so this poll, the pie chart they used for it is the red and blue, and blue is people are victims based on their race and red is ignore race. So I think it really gets out there.Obvious. Yeah. I remember in 20- I think 14 or 15, Fox News, it might have been Doug Schoen, that guy who did a poll and it was, “Do you think the country is going to hell in a handbasket?” That was the question.There was the Lou Dobbs one that was like, “Is Trump doing great, greater or greatest?” It was basically that old Colbert bit.Okay, that screenshot to me is the defining screenshot of Trump propaganda. “How would you rate President Trump's handling of the China virus,” is what it said. And it was like “Very good, great, and super.”Stuff like that, it is made not just for the Fox News audience, it's made for the internet. And that's why I'm so interested in this topic generally, because the way we talk online, people like to be like, “Well, no, it's not real life. It's the internet. It's not real life.” What do they think real life is?I know. Honestly, but also I'm glad Twitter is not real because real life sucks. Twitter is where I want to be now.Only marginally better than real life, which is also bad.Have you seen real life? It's terribleSo the last thing I wanted to ask you about before I let you go is, so when the New York Times got rid of their public editor position, they told people to tweet. They said it was unnecessary because people could just tweet. Twitter is the public editor, which that seems like a bad idea, but also there is no group of people less inclined to change or reflect based on tweet responses than New York Times reporters, it seems. How do you think that’s been going?I have a feeling that the intention behind that, I think was good. I think the intention being, “We want to hear from readers and we acknowledge that social media is where our readers have the fastest and most direct way to let us know what's going on. And a handful of our reporters engage with people on social media that can all in an ideal world, in which everyone is acting in good faith and willing to acknowledge their own shortfalls or errors, which can lead to a much better transparent reporting process.” That, I think, was the intention. In reality, obviously, it means we pile on the New York Times for bad headlines, and they, I guess we don't know what their real response is, but it feels like they don't change anything in a significant way.But that said, there's no way that all of these comments can't live in their heads at some level, which is why I do feel like having rapid response to bad framings or all these diner stories. I want to think that it's good because it will affect what they do in the future. I don't know if that's true. Part of the reason that I am skeptical of how effective tweeting at journalists is, is because a lot of the journalists at the New York Times are really good and they do really good reporting and exposes and then some f*****g editor will undermine it all with a shitty headline. And people don't understand that reporters don't write headlines, which for the most part, is the case. Reporters have very little to do with the headlines as a...This is my big brag of the day. I used to be an intern at the New York Times. I was on the copy desk and the copy editors write the headlines and they work with the reporters on it if they want to, but editors write the headlines and then a different editor rewrites it. And then a page one editor rewrites that. It goes through a whole process. The headline is normally what we're most upset about because that sets the tone for the story. And we are rightfully upset about that. Those editors should be better at that.It's also the only thing that most people see. Most people don't click on stories. At this point, this thing is so outdated, but it was a 2010 survey [Ed. note: it was a 2014 survey], I hope that there's a new version coming out at some point, but it was an old survey that was basically 60% of Americans haven't clicked on a story in the past week. So they're getting everything from what they see on Twitter and what they see headlines as they pass by.Wow.So that's why you can't just have a little misleading tweet or a little misleading headline Because that's what most people will see.Did you read that story or did you just read the headline that said 60% of people?Just read the headline that said 60%.Sounds good.And the funny thing is, I remember when it came out, Chris Cillizza wrote about it and it was like, "Dude, how do you not understand?!”The clickbait master.Well, as it relates to headlines, yes, I think everyone acknowledges that's a huge issue. And I think that should put more emphasis on the role of editors at newspapers, like the New York Times, which by the way, there are a lot of headline writers there and headline writing is kind of an art at the Times and that needs to be reevaluated because a lot of their headlines have been really bad. And we get a lot of the reaction to it in this, I think, okay. So I think a lot of the reaction to those headlines kind of snowballs into this narrative that the New York Times is being out of touch, being tone-deaf, whatever. And then it's easy to go after the people on the byline, the journalists who write the story are the only ones with their names on it. And the editors aren't.That, I think, is not always fair. That said, if Peter Baker writes a stupid story and is quoting people stupidly and is making bad analysis about how January 6th is just a red versus blue reality thing, sure, he's wrong for doing that. But I think a lot of the times when [people] are going after headlines, it's good to know, it's important to know that the reporters, aren't the ones who write the headlines and this is such a weird thing to try to educate people about because it's not intuitive. You would never think that that's the case, especially because in a lot of new media websites or digital publications, reporters do write the headlines and they often write it tying into the story, which is fine. That's a good way to write for a digital audience, but it's not always the case at these legacy papers that we focus on because they do have a huge circulation.I'm also thinking right now of the cliche Buzzfeed writer, who's like, "Okay, I have to do a story on the 43 greatest kangaroo gifs." And then the editor's like, "How about we do the 43 great kangaroo gifs?" And the writer's like, "That's not the headline I want."“It will restore your faith in humanity.”Yeah. “I would never say that.”And so, yeah, Matt, is there anything else that I haven't asked that you want to mention or any projects you're working on or anything?Oh, man, you covered so much.Anything at all. The floor is yours.I have a perfunctory plug for this thing we did at the Daily Show where we've put up these January 6th monuments. If anyone wants to check this out, just go online and use the hashtag daily show monuments. But it's basically a tribute to our wonderful Freedomsurrection heroes who tried to overthrow the government on January 6th. And we just felt that we needed to honor them, kind of the way that civil war generals are honored in the south. So we put up some monuments to them. I would encourage everyone to just educate yourselves about our history and our heritage before the woke right-wing mob tries to tear them down.See, what we need to do, though. If you really want to be like the way that civil war monuments are celebrated in the south, we should wait 70 years and then put the monuments up just aggressively too.Okay. This is a really crazy thought is in 70 years, what will, Parker you and I will have to do a podcast in 70 years and see if people even know what January 6th is.I hope I'm dead.I hope I'm dead in seven years.Seven, 70, whatever. It's all the same. But Matt, thank you so much. It's been a lot of fun talking to you.This is the least angry I've been in so long.I know. So now it's like, I'm going to close this and go look at Twitter. Yeah. I'm sure things will be fine.We'll go get angry together online.Sounds good.Thanks, Parker. Thank you so much. Get full access to The Present Age at www.readthepresentage.com/subscribe

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We opened up the OBL Friday mailbag and examined your Tailgate Friday ahead of Sunday's game. NFL Network Good Morning Football host Kyle Brandt joined One Bills Live to discuss his NFL Today segment that will air on CBS Sunday afternoon. He will be hyping the Bills with a message to the team ahead of the Week 14 matchup with the Bucs (31:40). NFL Films senior producer/ESPN NFL Matchup co-host Greg Cosell previewed Bills-Bucs and shared his thoughts on the Bills rebounding offensively, the advantages against a banged up Bucs secondary, and why he would like to see WR Gabriel Davis more involved in this week's game plan. He went on to discuss Tampa's dual-threat RB in Leonard Fournette and the challenge in going up against the Bucs offensive weapons (52:10).

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Vanishing Postcards host and storyteller Evan Stern on the importance of telling the stories from the places that are off the interstate. This episode is brought to you by Brain.fm. I love and use brain.fm every day! It combines music and neuroscience to help me focus, meditate, and even sleep! Because you listen to this show, you can get a free trial.* URL: https://brain.fm/innovativemindset If you love it as much as I do, you can get 20% off with this exclusive coupon code: innovativemindset   Born during the driving rainstorm that inspired Stevie Ray Vaughan to record the classic “Texas Flood,” Evan Stern is one of a proud few who can claim Austin as his legitimate hometown. Having caught the performing bug early on, he first gained attention at age 11 with a second-place finish in Austin's famed O. Henry Pun Off, and has since graced the stages of New York's Carnegie Hall and Lincoln Center. A graduate of Sarah Lawrence College and the British American Drama Academy, whether acting Shakespeare, or charming audiences with the turn of a Cole Porter phrase, Evan is first and foremost a storyteller, with a sincere love and appreciation for history, travel and the art of raconteurship. He is now honored to return to Texas for the first season of Vanishing Postcards, an ambitious project that represents a synthesis of these passions through the form of audio essay. Vanishing Postcards is a documentary travelogue in which listeners are invited on a road trip exploring the hidden dives, traditions, and frequently threatened histories that can be discovered by exiting the interstates. Named one of the Best Podcasts of 2021 by Digital Trends. Connect with Evan IG - @vanishing_postcards IG - @evansternnyc Podcast- https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/vanishing-postcards/id1544610020 Episode Transcript [00:00:00] Evan Stern: It's hard for me to really latch on one specific lesson that I have gained, but I do believe that. Everybody wants, ultimately wants to be heard. [00:00:18] Izolda Trakhtenberg: Hello and welcome to the innovative mindset podcast. I'm your host Izolda Trakhtenberg on the show. I interview peak performing innovators in the creative social impact and earth conservation spaces or working to change the world. This episode is brought to you by brain FM brain FM combines the best of music and neuroscience to help you relax, focus, meditate, and even sleep. [00:00:39] I love it and have been using it to write, create and do. Deepest work because you're a listener of the show. You can get a free trial head over to brain.fm/innovative mindset to check it out. If you decide to subscribe, you can get 20% off with the coupon code, innovative mindset, all one word. And now let's get to the show. [00:00:58] Yeah.[00:01:00] [00:01:02] Hey there. And welcome to the innovative mindset podcast. My name is Izolda Trakhtenberg. I'm your host, and I'm super thrilled that you're here. I'm also really excited and thrilled to talk about and meet this week's guest. Listen to this. Evan stern was born during the driving rainstorm that inspired Stevie Ray Vaughn to record the class. [00:01:22] Texas flood. I love that Evan stern is one of a proud few who can claim Austin. S's legitimate hometown that's the town is growing. So, wow. That's amazing how few people probably are from there. Having caught the performing bug early on. He first gained attention at age 11 with a second place finish in Austin's famed. [00:01:43] Oh, Henry punt off. And it says grace, the stages of new York's Carnegie hall and Lincoln center, a graduate of Sarah Lawrence college. American drama academy. Wow. Whether acting Shakespeare or charming audiences with the turn of a Cole Porter phrase, Evan is first and foremost, a storyteller, and [00:02:00] you know how close that is to my heart. [00:02:02] He's got a sincere love and appreciation for history travel and the art of a wreck on tour ship. He's now honored to return to Texas for the first season of vanishing postcards and ambitious project that represents a synthesis of these passions through the form of audio essay. Vanishing postcards is a documentary travel log in which listeners are invited on a road trip, exploring the hidden dives, traditions, and frequently threatened histories that can be discovered by exiting the interstates named one of the best podcasts of 2021 by digital trends, evidence here to talk about banishing postcards and everything else. [00:02:37] So amazing that he's doing Evan. Thank you so much for being there. Show welcome. [00:02:41] Evan Stern: Thank you so much for having me. It's a great honor. Oh, [00:02:44] Izolda Trakhtenberg: you're very sweet. So I I'm, this is such an exciting thing. Delving into the history of Texas. First of all, into the, into the storytellers of Texas into the dives and the honky-tonks of Texas as a travel log.[00:03:00] [00:03:00] But as a podcast, what, what inspired you to do this? What inspired you to go? You know what? I'm going to create this travel log. And I'm going to make it about my home state. What happened that you went, yes, I want to do this. [00:03:13] Evan Stern: Well, it was, it, it wasn't as if there was a lightning bolt of inspiration. It was a very kind of slow gradual process. [00:03:21] Um, and, and you told me, you know, a few years ago that right now I'd be working on a podcast. Um, you know, I might've said really. Um, but like, like so many though, I am one of those people who over the last 10 years just absolutely fell in love. Podcasting, um, and the, um, audio medium of storytelling, I think kind of the gateway drug for me, um, was years ago, I started listening to the moth, you know, just people getting up and telling personal stories without notes. [00:03:52] I, I just absolutely loved it. Um, then you start discovering, um, other programs, you know, like the, the kitchen [00:04:00] sisters and, and, and, and there's, you know, different, different stuff. I mean, there, there's a wonderful podcast about classic Hollywood called you must remember this. There's one about country music called cocaine and rhinestones, um, and around, and, you know, not too long ago as well. [00:04:18] Um, you know, the YouTube algorithm, uh, kept suggesting for whatever reason that I watched these, uh, travel blog, travel blog videos, and in watching them, I would never really see the way that I enjoy traveling represented. Um, I mean, certainly it's not always the case, but I think more often than not, when you, when you see videos of that nature, it's much less about the places themselves. [00:04:45] It's much more about the people saying, oh, look at me and how cute I am in this place. Um, and I just kind of gradually started thinking, you know, I wonder if there is something that, uh, that, that I can do. [00:05:00] Um, and initially I had this grand idea. That I wanted to do a show that was going to be a musical travel log of Mexico. [00:05:09] Um, you know, I'm, I'm immersed in the gig economy in New York, and I always try my best to get away January February just to, to escape the, the bitter cold of the winter. And, um, you know, Mexico is my happy place. It's, it's cheap, it's warm. Um, and so I initially had this idea that I was going to go, uh, kind of explore, use music as a portal to exploring the cultural, regional history of Mexico. [00:05:36] I was going to go to Vera Cruz that was going to where the tradition of, you know, and one a Watteau and, um, you know, in Monterey and the north. And I went so far as to, uh, produce a pilot episode, um, in Marietta Yucatan, um, about the tradition of the trophies that they have there. And it's one thing to, you know, when you're running an event, [00:06:00] Um, you know, you're thinking to yourself, oh my goodness, this is just going to be the best thing ever. [00:06:05] This is going to be amazing. And then you sit down and you listen to what you have spent months working on and you go, oh my goodness, I have missed the mark. So terribly. Um, it was a perfect lesson in show. Don't tell, I mean, w what happened was, is I talked all about the city of Marietta. It's about its history, this, that, and the other, but you didn't actually, um, when, when you were listening to it, I also learned pretty quickly that the, the human voice has such terrific color, shade, and nuance to it. [00:06:37] That if you have an actor come in, um, to a dub over, uh, you know, what was said in English, you just, you just lose so much. Um, and I realized pretty quickly that I needed to learn much more about audio production before tackling a project of that ambitious nature. And so I started thinking to myself, well, you know what. [00:06:59] Might [00:07:00] not be as exotic as Mexico, but if there's one thing I know it's that Texas people love to talk and they tell great stories. So in January of 2020, um, grab some equipments. Um, and I went back down to Texas to see what I could do. Um, really, it was just, uh, going to be kind of an experiment. Um, but it very quickly evolved into vanishing postcards. [00:07:26] Um, what happened was, is I took a look at what I was doing, um, and I realized that each episode was a snapshot of a different place. And if there was a thing that the place has had in common it's that you didn't know how much longer a lot of them were going to be around or that they were representative of broader cultural histories or traditions that. [00:07:52] You know, you, you just, they're kind of rare, um, in, in this kind of fast paced rapidly homogenizing [00:08:00] world. Um, and, um, since then it, it became, it it's, it's been an incredibly rewarding journey. Um, you know, as I maybe referenced earlier in, in many ways, it is kind of a 180 from a lot of the work I've previously done at the, at the same time. [00:08:17] Um, I feel that all of that work really kind of beautifully prepared me for it. Um, and having embarked on this journey, um, I ended up covering like about 1500 miles of, of Texas and, um, having embarked on this journey as a solo traveler, um, I'm now really grateful that the series is out in the world. Um, and I can invite, uh, you know, people like you and listeners really around the world, uh, to, to join me now and experience, uh, everything that I got to do. [00:08:49] Izolda Trakhtenberg: Wow. That's amazing. And it's incredible to me, what you just said about how you took everything that you had learned up until that [00:09:00] point and reframed it and repurposed it almost into this, this way of looking at your home state. And yet it is both technical and it takes a lot of artistry. And I'm wondering what, in, as part of, as part of doing this project, what did you learn? [00:09:21] What was the thing that stood out for you that you learned maybe about yourself or about the people in your state or about the places? What was the biggest thing you learned and how did it change you? [00:09:31] Evan Stern: Well, there's a lot, I mean, it's hard to, for me to really latch on one specific lesson that I have gained. [00:09:38] Um, but I do believe that. Everybody wants, ultimately wants to be heard. They, they really do. Um, and I mean, people often ask me, you know, w w w w when I first started doing this, it was, it was in January, 2020. It was before the pandemic hit. Obviously the pandemic changed, um, a [00:10:00] lot of what I could do. Um, but I was really the first episodes that you'll hear in the series. [00:10:05] I was really just kind of showing up at these places completely unannounced. Um, they really had no idea, um, that I was going to be there. Um, and it, it, people ask me, you know, did you meet resistance? We'll we'll really know. Um, everyone was, was intrigued. And for the most part, people were so honored that, you know, someone like me was taking an interest in their work, their place, uh, what they were doing. [00:10:35] Um, and I don't think too, I mean, Someone recently asked me too, that, that when they, you know, listen to the, to the series, you know, that, you know, they, they feel as if I'm able to, you know, extract these, these stories. And they said, well, how, how do you, how do you make this magic happen? And, well, the truth is is that you, you can't, um, there is nothing that you can do to you. [00:10:59] You never [00:11:00] really know what is is going to happen. Um, but the stories, if you just, if you start talking to people, um, you approach them with respect, empathy, and a willingness to listen. Um, and you ask them specific questions. Um, you just, you, you never know what you're going to. Um, and something that I tell anyone who's maybe interested in doing something like this. [00:11:29] Um, I will say that if you do want to, you know, get stories, you do want to ask people specific questions. Um, I would never go up to someone and just say, tell me about yourself. Um, I might say, um, before we get started, could you maybe describe for me your childhood home, you know, something like that. And, um, that really kind of opens up the door and we just kind of take things from there. [00:11:51] Yeah. [00:11:56] Izolda Trakhtenberg: Sorry. I'm taking all of that in. I like to take a pause to make sure [00:12:00] that I've, that I've understood everything. One of the things that I heard you say that really struck a chord with me was that it's about listening. And the other thing of course was asking those specific questions and. Were there any, and if so, what are they techniques that you use specifically as a, as a performer to help you with that part of it? [00:12:26] Evan Stern: Well, you know, I honestly, I think that, um, as I said so much of my experience, um, leading PR prepared me in, in leading up to this, um, and a big job that I've had for a number of years here in the city is it's a very, it's a very strange job. Um, I work as a, what is called a standardized patient, um, that is the medical schools, programs, hire actors to facilitate simulations [00:13:00] for, uh, medical interns and students. [00:13:03] Um, I have played all sorts of different cases. You'd never believe. I mean, they've had to diagnose me. I've been the graphic designer they've had to diagnose with cancer. Um, I have, uh, you know, I, I I've been the 19 year old crack addict who suffered a panic attack. You name it. I've I've had it. Um, but I have learned so much in, in working with these students in terms of how they build rapport and what works and what doesn't. [00:13:34] Um, I think it's amazing. How many people, uh, it can be applied to interview situations, whatever, um, you know, you give someone a microphone. Sometimes they just kind of become a completely different person. You know, they think that every question, you know, has to be probing and every question, you know, has to have weight, but you really just have to remember how you talk to people in your [00:14:00] everyday life. [00:14:02] You know, how do you introduce yourself to a stranger? Um, you know, you're just going to start talking to people, um, and you know, you, you read their body language and you, you really just it's about establishing trust. Um, and it, and I feel that people understand that. I don't think of myself as a journalist. [00:14:30] Um, I'll be the first to say that I think of myself as more of an essayist. I really think that a journalist job is to investigate a journalist job is to probe. I'm not really there to do that. I'm really there just to, you know, kind of have a conversation and, and enjoy the ride and see where that ride takes. [00:14:49] You know, I'm not, if someone tells me a tall tale, um, I'm not going to fact check that story. Um, but I think that people recognize [00:15:00] that. Um, and you know, I just think that, um, just, just really, like I said, just, just remembering how we relate to one another, uh, every day is, is just crucial. [00:15:15] Izolda Trakhtenberg: Yeah, you're talking. I mean, as you're talking, I'm going, he's, he's talking about integrity and authenticity, and those words are abandoned about aura a lot nowadays, but it really, it seems to me that that's, that that's what you, that, that that's what, what you were using, you know, using who you, who you were authentically to meet these people. [00:15:37] And I know you said that people asked you if you, if you met resistance, I'm wondering what was the most wild story you heard? [00:15:46] Evan Stern: Goodness. Oh, man, there, there were, there was, uh, so, so there's this teeny town called Castile, Texas that sits on the Western edge of the, uh, [00:16:00] the hill country. It's absolutely beautiful, very isolated. [00:16:04] The town has a population of six and, um, I don't even know if he's really there, mayor, I don't know if they actually have a mayor, but you know, the, the big local personality is Randy Love. Festi, uh, he's the owner of the Castille store. Um, I'll be releasing his episode in a, in a few weeks. Um, but, uh, when I was there, he told me that, uh, he had, uh, he, he, he, he took a trip to Cabo San Lucas with his girlfriend. [00:16:36] Uh, they saw this, uh, chicken in a bar and he said, you know what, I need a chicken for the store. So, um, you know, he bought this, uh, roof. For the store. And, um, he had this, uh, Billy Bass that was like, you know, one of those electronic things, you know, you clap your hands in the best wiggles. Well, um, one day as he tells [00:17:00] me, he looks over and, um, this rooster is having sexual relations with that bass. [00:17:05] So this thing he tells me became this huge sensation where people from all over the place started coming to town to see his rooster perform, you know, 12 times a day. And he was able to, uh, make hundreds of thousands of dollars in real estate deals that he was able to sell to the people who came through the store because of that rooster. [00:17:27] And then he proudly led me into the store where he showed me this. He, you know, he, he called the rooster cockroach. Yeah, and the rooster died. And after the rooster died, he had that. He took him to the taxidermists and, um, had him, uh, mounted and placed on top of his good friend, Billy the bass. And I've seen a lot of taxidermy in my day. [00:17:51] I don't think I have ever seen a stuffed rooster and I have certainly never seen a row stuffed rooster on top of a Billy Bass. I'll [00:18:00] tell you that right now. [00:18:02] Izolda Trakhtenberg: Wow. That is. Tall tale for sure. [00:18:10] Oh my goodness. I uh, wow. Yeah, yeah. I don't even, I'm like, whatever. How do I follow that up? I think, I don't [00:18:21] know. I did. I did, because you know, the thing, the thing about this is that anytime we tell stories or listen to stories, I think we're changed by them even if, even if it's, oh, that's just the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. Your experience of life is, is, is changed in some way or another. So I guess I'm wondering, how have you been changed by doing this project? [00:18:45] Evan Stern: Well, It's in many ways, it's been a dive into the unknown, as I said, it's, it's very, it was all very new for me in the beginning. Um, I had to do a lot of learning and [00:19:00] I re I really had to put myself out there. Um, it definitely, um, tested the boundaries of my comfort, um, in a lot of ways. Um, you know, you really just have to, as I said earlier, you have to go up out there and just start talking to people. [00:19:16] Um, and I usually found that I was way more nervous than the people I was talking to. And, um, I was talking to someone else about this, um, experience. Someone said, and, you know, she asked me, she was like, well, how do you, where does that confidence come from? Where do you get that confidence? And I said, well, you know what? [00:19:36] I, I, I think I've discovered that confidence is kind of overrated. Um, because you can't just read a book or, you know, attend a three-day workshop, whatever, and magically have confidence. It just doesn't happen that way. Confidence happens as a result of experience. Um, it happens as a result of mistakes. Um, and, [00:20:00] um, I think. [00:20:02] I heard somewhere that, you know, what heroic act doesn't involve, just huge levels of vulnerability. Um, and so I, I think I have definitely grown in confidence as a result of all of this, but that really, uh, just is a by-product of, of the work itself and everything that, you know, has been asked of me to, to rise to this challenge [00:20:36] Izolda Trakhtenberg: and that in itself, the, the skills you've built, the ideas that you've gotten and, and brought to fruition is a big part of the change I would imagine. And I love, I'd love to discuss a little bit as you talk about this, what is the process? What was the creative process that goes in to making an episode to crafting vanishing posts? [00:20:59] Evan Stern: Absolutely. [00:21:00] So each, you know, obviously I do have each episode does have a subject that I am interested in delving into. Um, there are people that I want to meet, just so you know, so basically, um, a bit more about the show itself for, for those listening out there. So essentially listeners are invited to join me on a road trip. [00:21:23] And so each episode is produced in documentary style. So, you know, you're going to hear a lot of, it's not, you know, interview, it's not talk show, you're going to hear a lot of different voices. Um, you're going to hear some of my narration, um, and I really work hard to make it an immersive listening experience for those who, who are hearing the episodes. [00:21:49] Um, but basically the, the way that I constructed is, um, there are. And, uh, as I said, you know, each episode, there are certain issues that, that I'm looking at. [00:22:00] Um, and so I just go, I, I talk to people, um, and I assemble a number of interviews at the, at the places that I go to. Um, you know, I try to talk to the, uh, the owners. [00:22:14] I try to talk to the workers. I try to talk to the people who go to these places. Um, you're going to ask all of those people different questions. Um, but you're also, I think there, you know, you also want to, there are also some specific questions that I will ask all of them. Um, and then what I do is I, I come back home and I listened to all of the, um, I listened to all of the interviews and I extract, you know, the, the gold from each person I speak with, you know, I could very well talk to someone for like an hour out of that hour conversation. [00:22:51] I might just take, you know, Three minutes worth of, of nuggets or whatnot. Um, and then I, you know, I, I look at [00:23:00] everything that I have and I stepped back and I, I just kind of look for it, you know, that, what, what, what, what, what are the commonalities, what, what do people keep coming back to, you know, are there opposing views? [00:23:15] Um, and from there, I, I just kind of take these nuggets and I weave together a story out of all of that. Um, I really let my subjects kind of guide the way that the, the story moves and goes. Um, the, the most challenging job for me is in the writing process of pasting it all together. Um, everything has to have I learned, you know, for years, I, you know, I've, I've. [00:23:45] Did a lot of performing in the cabaret world. Um, and you know, even if you're just putting together a show, that's, that's really kind of, you know, a series of songs, what is said in between those songs is every bit as [00:24:00] important as the songs themselves and everything has to have architecture and a beginning, middle and an end. [00:24:06] Um, so the, the greatest challenge for me is about how I can link everything together, um, in the narration as part of a cohesive whole, um, you know, I think, but each episode, uh, you know, I, I never, totally, there are always things that I want to focus on, but you just never totally know where it's going to go. [00:24:27] And before each one, um, I always ask my God, is this going to work? Um, but some so far it's worked out okay, [00:24:38] Izolda Trakhtenberg: That moment of, oh, what if this is going to be a complete disaster? I know it well. Um, and it's, I'm so fascinated by what you're saying with respect to the storytelling, the beginning, middle and end, and the sort of the patter between songs in, in, in a cabaret show, all of, all of those things, those elements [00:25:00] of storytelling, what do you think is the result? [00:25:06] What is the most crucial thing to put into it? And what is the result? How do you, when do you feel like yes, it has worked as opposed to, oh, it's going to be a disaster. [00:25:16] Evan Stern: Well, as I said earlier, again, the most important thing is, is show don't tell, um, and what, what, what is always best for me is I try not to. [00:25:34] I try not to express too much in the way of, of opinion. Um, what, what is really magical though, is just when you have, when you're talking to someone and, you know, whether they realize it or not, they, they share and tell a story that just kind of beautifully encapsulates everything, you know, that, that just really explains the issue [00:26:00] without it, you know, at that point, the work for you is, is really done. [00:26:05] Um, but you know, kind of an example of, of something that, you know, I, I did that, that was a challenge, um, was, you know, I have an episode that's coming out in a bit where. I took a trip first to, to Brownsville, Texas, where I spoke with this man who is the last, uh, cook in the United States who was allowed to serve a barbacoa cooked barbacoa, as it was meant to be prepared, which means it's, it's cooked in a pit under the ground. [00:26:37] Um, and that's what he does. He, he, he's serving barbacoa out of what had been his childhood home. Um, there's a pit out back that's in the ground and, you know, that's where he cooks it. The reason that he's allowed to do it is because his father started it in 1956 and it's been going on for this long. And so I focused on him and I did a segment on him. [00:26:57] And then I went to San [00:27:00] Antonio and I, um, you know, met a cook there who, you know, talked about cooking up puffy tacos. And, um, it ended up, you know, she, her story went in a completely different direction. Um, I mean, her mother. Started this business out of, uh, out of a garage because it was her last hope. Um, she was an incredible woman, a revered figure in San Antonio, um, who, you know, was shockingly murdered. [00:27:28] Um, and she talked all about that and, and, and everything. And, and then, and how she like found forgiveness and was being able to move beyond and, you know, everything that her, how her mother prepared her and how her mother expressed love through, through cooking. And, um, I realized that, you know, on, on the surface, you know, these two stories, yes, they were about cooking, but they were very, very different. [00:27:55] But what, what is it that they had in common? I realized that, you know, [00:28:00] through their cooking, they were both expressing love. And for me, and that's how I brought the two together. [00:28:14] Izolda Trakhtenberg: I'm still thinking, sorry, it's a beautiful, uh, yeah. That notion of, um, cooking and, and healing through cooking and expressing love through cooking, but also expressing love for, I guess, the, the heritage and the inspiration for what they did is so important. And I'm wondering if you have someone or figures or people in, in your world. [00:28:45] Hoo hoo hoo. Does that for you? Who inspired you to do this? And if so, is it that same love, it sounds weird to say love connection, but is that connection one of love and respect? What [00:29:00] is it about the people or the images or, or the ideas that inspired you that comes from that place? [00:29:11] Oh, no you're [00:29:11] Evan Stern: thinking. Oh, no, of course, absolutely. I mean, [00:29:20] There. I mean, who can you say, can you just rephrase the question in a simple, in a simple one sentence in a simple one sentence for me? Can you say, say what you're getting at [00:29:30] Izolda Trakhtenberg: again here? Sure. I'm just wondering who inspired you throughout the journey? Are there any public figures or is there anybody in Texas? [00:29:37] Are there any people who made you go, ah, this is what I want. Well, [00:29:41] Evan Stern: what I can say is that if, if there is a bar that I am always working towards, you know, never, never met him personally. Um, but I am old enough to remember growing up on CVS. There was a man by the name of Charles Kuralt who would travel the [00:30:00] country and he would really just kind of share good news is, is what he was, is what he was doing. [00:30:07] And he. He, he never expressed anything in, in terms of, in, in, in showing these stories, he was able to present, you know, the best of people without really expressing anything in the way of judgment. And there are many situations throughout this process where I have asked myself, what would Charles Kuralt do? [00:30:32] Hmm. Um, and you know, I, I don't mean to, I'm not trying to compare myself to Charles Caroll. Um, in the least, you know, I have much more work to do, you know, before I feel like I can get people called him the Walt Whitman of American television. Um, but I can tell you that that is the bar that I am always working towards. [00:30:56] Um, and the greatest compliments that I have received, [00:31:00] um, you know, or when people have heard this series and said, oh, you know what, this reminds me of Charles Perrault. [00:31:08] Izolda Trakhtenberg: That's lovely. And I remember Charles Caroll also on like, uh, CBS Sunday morning or something like that. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. His stories were all, you know, when, uh, you were mentioning the idea of love and heart. [00:31:20] That's what I remember thinking about his stories was that they were always full of such quiet soul and heart. They didn't have to be huge stories, but they were, they always left me feeling better and always gave me something to think about. Well, yeah, [00:31:38] Evan Stern: go on. Go on. No, no, no, go ahead. Go ahead. Well, and I do believe that there is a great void of that when you look at our media landscape right now, and th there, there really is. [00:31:48] Um, we live in a horribly polarized, horribly divided age. Um, I, I do not believe that anything that we have lived through over the [00:32:00] last five, six years should be normalized. I will be the first to say that, um, But I do believe that, you know, the, the issues that we are wrestling with right now as a nation, uh, in the divisions that we're dealing with in terms of politics and race are completely unsustainable. [00:32:20] But at the same time, I do think that there is more that we have in common than what we've realized. And I do think that culture right now is one of those rare areas of agreement. And what this show is about celebrating is that culture, um, you know, culture provides opportunity for shared experiences and you know, that that's really kind of what I'm getting at with, with all of this. [00:32:53] Um, and, and additionally too, I mean, how can we expect for people in [00:33:00] our rural communities to appreciate what is good and beautiful about places like New York city or San Francisco, or even Austin for that matter, if we cannot appreciate what is good and beautiful about them, [00:33:22] Izolda Trakhtenberg: from what you just said, it feels like there's a sort of a, through the looking glass aspect to your show that you're inviting people to go on a journey with you to, to see these places or to listen to these, to these stories and to hear about them. When you do that, when you're in that space of inviting people on a journey, how do you decide which stories are the ones that are important to tell. [00:33:52] Evan Stern: Well, something that's important to me. Is that so often when we think about art and [00:34:00] culture, I mean, we think about palaces of civilization, like the mat, the British museum, the, the loop, but the truth is that art and culture is everywhere. And oftentimes some of the best of it comes from places that you're just not going to read about in glossy magazines. [00:34:20] You're not going to see about these places on Instagram. And it's really about exploring that, you know, Detroit gave us Motown, Clarksdale, Mississippi gave us the blues. Um, and, and for me, it's really kind of about seeking these, these places out. You know, if you read a, you know, if you read like a tourist guide book about Texas, they're going to tell you to go to the Alamo. [00:34:49] They're going to tell you to go to the river walk, do this, do that. Um, There's so much more to that. I mean, I had the [00:35:00] great honor of visiting a town called San Benito, um, which is about, you know, 15, 18 miles north of the border. Um, and you know, th this is, you know, if you look at this country, um, you know, the real Grandy valley, um, is just statistically, one of the, the poor regions, you know, there's been a lot. [00:35:21] Um, you know, uh, D population, you know, flight, whatnot, but this town of San Benito, um, was responsible for giving birth to the movement of music. Um, which is an incredible genre. Basically what happened is the, uh, the Mexican laborers down in south Texas, um, heard the music that was brought to the area by the checks, the Germans, they heard the Pocus, they heard the accordions, um, and they, they took that accordion music. [00:35:51] They took those polkas and they added their own lyrics and Spanish to them. They threw in guitar and they created this whole entire genre [00:36:00] of music. And, um, w w the story there is, is, is I knew that I wanted to. To do a piece, you know, on the border, you hear about the border a lot, um, in the news right now, but what is always lost in the noise surrounding all of that is the culture and the people who actually exist there. [00:36:19] Um, and I thought that kahuna really kind of provided a terrific, uh, opportunity just to explore kind of the beautiful th the, the beauty that exists there. And I heard that there was this museum in this town called the Texas kahuna music hall of fame. So I sent a message on Facebook. Um, I I'd heard that, uh, it was founded and owned by a man by the name of Ray Abila. [00:36:42] And a little while later, I got a call from his son, turned out, uh, that Mr. Abila, his father had died about seven months prior, but that if I wanted to go, um, visit the museum, that they would be honored to have me and I showed up. This museum, the small town in [00:37:00] Texas and the entire family was there because they wanted for me to know about their father. [00:37:07] Um, they wanted me to know about Cancun . Um, they found a, the president of a record label who specializes in this music so that he could be there with us too. And they had such pride and joy in, in sharing. And an honor that someone took the time to visit a place like, like San Benito. Um, it is an experience I will always treasure and never forget. [00:37:34] Izolda Trakhtenberg: That is so lovely. And I'm so glad that you got to tell that to, to tell that story, to show, to show, to sort of open the window, if you will, into San Benito and into this music. And I'm wondering something, this is a little off topic, but do you know who Alan Lomax was? I [00:37:54] Evan Stern: have heard the name. Um, please refresh my memory. [00:37:57] Izolda Trakhtenberg: Sure, sure. So he was an [00:38:00] ethnomusicologist and what he did with his whole career for 50 years, he traveled the world and he recorded music. And when video came along, video of mew, indigenous music, wherever he was, he tried to find the music from that place. And, uh, and there, when I worked at the national geographic site in many moons ago, he came over and he was like, Hey, I would love to put together a library that didn't happen with the geographic, but his daughter, after his death put up a website and there is a website that you can go and, uh, sort of see the music from anywhere. [00:38:35] You can hear the music from anywhere, you just type it in. And if it's there, if they got a recording of it, you'll be able to hear it. And so I'm wondering for posterity, what is your. W w w this library, if you will, that you're creating this travel log that you're creating in my mind, Alan Lomax, his version of it is providing us access to music from all [00:39:00] over the world that is, that could be lost. [00:39:03] And I'm wondering, what do you, what is your feeling about that with the stories that you're telling you mentioned earlier that these that's, their survival is not certain the different traditions and the, and even the, the, you know, the honky-tonks the places themselves, what are you going for here? What is your long-term vision for vanishing postcard? [00:39:24] Evan Stern: Well, so yes, so I'm collecting oral history and I, I think it is really important that we do have a record of it. Um, I think in some ways, uh, this is something perhaps of a bit of a call to arms. Um, you know, I, I want to say it's about shining a light on, you know, what is, what is still, what is still there. [00:39:47] Um, but we can still go to, but as I said, you know, some of this stuff might not be around for too much longer, so it's, it's really kind of about drawing attention to it so that we can preserve it. Um, you know, I look at my [00:40:00] hometown of Austin. Texas as a whole. Um, it is, it is changing at rapid pace. I don't think that change is something to be feared. [00:40:09] Um, in, in many ways I think it is something that, um, should be embraced, but we have to change and grow responsibly. Um, we have to ask, you know, why, w w what is it that people like about Austin? What is it about Texas that draws people there? Why do people keep coming? Um, and I do think that it is it's culture, and I believe that we, as a society need to do a lot more to protect the culture that surrounds us. [00:40:36] I mean, th th most of the places that I spotlight are small businesses and. You know, whenever a small business closes that, you know, has a great history behind it or fondness to it, you'll have all of these people come out of the woodwork saying, oh my goodness, this is horrible. This is the worst thing ever. [00:40:54] But my question always is, well, when was the last time you, you actually went there? Um, [00:41:00] I mean, it's really exhausting. It's a lot of hard work, um, to, to keep these places going. And if people get tired or they aren't making ends meet you, you can't blame them. Um, and this is an issue that you see happening in New York. [00:41:14] It's an issue you see happening in Texas, California, London, name it it's happening. Um, and so I do think that. You know, th th hopefully this series kind of makes people think, uh, a bit more about that. Um, and long-term, it is my hope, uh, that I can expand the map beyond Texas because, um, the, the issues that I feel are explored in this series are truly universal. [00:41:44] In fact, if you look at the analytics, um, most people tuning in and listening right now are actually listening from outside of Texas. Um, and so I think it's important to, uh, you know, I want to expand the map [00:42:00] and, um, you know, if I can do a part to draw attention to, you know, the, the, the beauty of a meal, American culture that surrounds us, um, you know, that's kind of what my goal is. [00:42:16] Izolda Trakhtenberg: And it's a great goal. And I'm so glad that you said that you eventually, cause that was going to be, my next question was, do you want to take it outside of Texas? And I mean, Texas covering Texas can be a lifetime's work cause it's such a big place with such a varied set of, of uh, peoples and cultures. [00:42:32] And yet I love the notion of, of that, what you said, finding those small businesses, finding those people, who aren't, the ones trumpeting themselves and giving them a chance to, to shine. I think that's amazing and wonderful that you're doing that. And I love the notion. And if you could. What would you go next? [00:42:53] Evan Stern: Uh, well, I, I have a dream. I would love to drive route 66 from Oklahoma to [00:43:00] California, and I would love to collect stories and oral histories along the way. Um, I think that route 66, so much of why, um, it kind of occupies this mythic status, um, is because of the timing. Um, you know, there were other highways that were built before or after there were larger ones. [00:43:19] Um, but I think, you know, if you journey route 60, I've never done it, but I, I have to think that if you drive route 66, I mean, you were following in the steps of the, the Okies who migrated to California because of the dust bowl and the great depression. Um, it was an incredible artery during world war II. [00:43:38] So there's that history as well. Um, then it kind of. You know, in encapsulates that golden age of American travel and in the late forties and fifties, then it was decommissioned. And, you know, there was a lot of abandonment that happened and kind of, what does that say? Um, you know, about the American dream, you [00:44:00] know, it was it, uh, and, and so there's a lot that I would like to explore and taking that journey, um, beyond that, I would also love to take a trip to Mississippi sometime, uh, something that fascinates me about Mississippi. [00:44:11] I think, um, the, the writer really Maura said that Mississippi is America's Ireland. Um, if you look at it, it has produced the most incredible Canon of just literary lions, um, William Fox. Um, Richard Wright, Eudora, Welty. Um, they were all Mississippians and Mississippi continues to produce an incredible writers there. [00:44:36] There's a wonderful storytelling tradition attached to Mississippi. Um, and I would love to see, uh, what, what I could get there. [00:44:47] Izolda Trakhtenberg: I love it. I think that's amazing. First of all, I'd driven along 66 and you will, you will love it. Love it, love it. And, uh, you know, Mississippi and the south in general [00:45:00] has a rich storytelling culture. I have every time I spend time in Alabama, Mississippi, Georgia, Florida, that, that part of the country there, if you, if you set a spell, you will, you will get amazing stories. [00:45:16] And often you don't, it doesn't take a lot of prompting. So I'm I'm you said earlier that, that it's just about sort of talking to people the way you would talk to them. The, I guess the question is, have you had people who just say Nope, Nope. Not doing it. And if so, what have you done if that particular story is important to you or do you just move on to the next person? [00:45:38] Oh, [00:45:38] Evan Stern: absolutely. Well, there, there is. Um, you know, so the. The third episode that you'll hear in the series. Um, I did at a honky-tonk called arche blue, silver dollar, um, in this town called Bandera, Texas. Um, it's a fantastic place. Um, again, it was pre pandemic. Um, so, you know, I showed up there unannounced and I really wanted to [00:46:00] talk to, uh, archi blue. [00:46:01] He's he's the owner, he's in his eighties. He performs there every Saturday night. Um, I thought, you know, th this guy is a legend. I've got to talk to him, got to talk to him. He wanted absolutely nothing to do with it. Wouldn't give me an inch refuse to let me record him. Um, and you know, he was cordial when I talked to him, we're talking, you know, you're one word answers, you try everything. [00:46:24] Um, but what happened is, is, uh, every, I, I talked to everyone. That I could find around him and everybody had a story about archi that they wanted to share and, um, what resulted in. And so his refusal became part of the story itself. Um, but in talking to everyone who knew and loved him and had stories to share about him, you really got a terrific, uh, portrait that wouldn't have existed. [00:46:56] Otherwise that that I think is entirely charming. [00:47:00] Um, and when that happened, I had to remind myself that one of my very, very favorite, um, essays of all time, uh, was written by, uh, gates Elise. Um, in 1965, he was given an assignment to interview Frank Sinatra for Esquire magazine and Frank Sinatra completely refused to talk to him. [00:47:23] Um, but what he ended up doing was he interviewed all the hangers on everyone in his, his entourage. And, uh, to this day, people say that it is the most realistic. Portrait of Frank Sinatra that has ever been captured. Um, and so I would recommend to anyone who finds themselves in that position to think of that story and, you know, maybe read that story, uh, because that's something that I draw tremendous inspiration from.[00:48:00] [00:48:03] Izolda Trakhtenberg: It's so interesting. I have a friend who, uh, who's a PR expert and she talks about the difference between marketing and PR Gloria, Charles, her name. And she says marketing is when you come to people and you say, Hey, I'm great. But PR is when someone else goes, you know what? That person they're great. And as long as it's someone you trust, it weighs more than if the person is trumping again themselves, you know? [00:48:31] And so there's something to what you said that kind of reminded me of that, that notion of the other people around Frank Sinatra or, or, or archi, uh, being the ones who tell their tale. And I, I guess I'm wondering within that, I've asked you about the wildest, what is the story that has touched you the most? [00:48:55] The one that made you go, ah, wow. I had no [00:49:00] idea. [00:49:02] Evan Stern: Well, for me, the, the episode that, that, that has the most personal heart for me, um, is, is the second one. What happened is I went to this dance hall. Um, I, I, I knew that I wanted to do a piece on dance halls. Um, in, in Texas, you know, everyone always talks, always writes about Greenhall or Lukin Bach. [00:49:27] You know, those are the big dance halls, but there are many, many, many more others out there. And there was one I discovered that I'd never been to called SEF Shaq hall. It's in this teeny community, um, called Seton, Texas. It's about eight miles outside of a town called temple. It's a community of about 40 people. [00:49:48] And, um, and there's this old dance hall there called SEF shuck hall. That is pretty much trapped in time. Um, by most accounts, it is now the oldest, [00:50:00] um, family run dance hall in Texas. You know, it's a family that, that owns it. This family has, has always owned and run it. And, um, I went there and I wanted to talk to its owner, Alice, who is 89 years old. [00:50:19] Um, and, uh, you know, I had actually called an advanced to ask if I could come and talk to her. She said, sure, well, I got there. And I said, well, I'm here to talk to Alice. And it turned out, you know, that morning she took a fall and they had to take her to the emergency room. Um, and you know, and it kind of, you know, you could feel the way. [00:50:41] In that situation, you know, what, what happens to this place? Um, you know, without, without Alice here. And I ended up talking to her daughter-in-law and son, um, and you know, they're, they're committed to keeping it going. Um, but you could feel like the, you [00:51:00] know, the, you know, I, I feel like that situation kind of infused the episode with, with weight. [00:51:06] Um, but beyond that, um, you know, I listened to, to what I had initially, and there was something missing. Um, I said to myself, I said, you know, I'm doing a lot of talking here. I'd like to find someone else who could do some, some talking for. Um, and there there's an association called the Texas dance hall preservation. [00:51:29] And I found the woman who was working at the time as their executive director, because I wanted to talk to her just to kind of get some more historic perspective on dance halls. You know, I was talking about the history. I think it's better if someone else can talk about the history, other than me, that actually knows more. [00:51:45] And, you know, I talked earlier about how, you know, you have those moments where someone just kind of, you know, tells a story or share something that just beautifully illuminates everything. And, um, [00:52:00] I was talking to her and I asked, I said, you know, there are so many causes out there in this world that are, that are worth devoting attention to. [00:52:09] I said, you know, why are dance halls important to you? And she said it was, it became an incredibly emotional interview that I was not expecting at all. But she said that, you know, those places have a lot of heart and that her fear was that we're getting away from that as a society. And, you know, she, you know, ends up crying. [00:52:34] She's saying, you know, these places, you know, people go there, you know, it's not just about the fun. It's, it's not just about the dancing. Um, it's about, you know, it's about cleaning the roof. It's about cleaning the toilet. And she says, I see so many people working so hard to keep these places going and, you know, and of course it is perfectly illustrated what the shoe lock family, you know, we're, we're [00:53:00] doing, you know, the, the, the daughter-in-law the son, you know, they, they work, you know, five days, they do not take days off. [00:53:07] You know, they have regular jobs that they keep Monday through Friday, and then they're there on the weekends. And, um, I think that it beautifully exemplified their story. In addition to just about every other person that I talked to in the series as a whole, [00:53:30] Izolda Trakhtenberg: that is beautiful. And I'm so grateful that you shared that, that moment of, of talking to her and also the story of. Dance halls in general or, or anything that we do because we love it. Um, you know, we, we do it because whatever it is, whatever that thing is that you do, because you love it. And particularly these places where one of the things that I think Evan, that, that you've highlighted, that I think is so [00:54:00] incredible is that you've taken, you've highlighted places that aren't going out for fame. [00:54:08] You know, these are people and places that are just living, doing their thing and living their lives day in and day out, year in and year out. And they're not going to be a celebrity. They're not trying to be world famous for example. And yet you've shown the light on them. And I think that's so it's powerful because of that, because they're living their lives and doing something hopefully that they love, like with the dance hall story. [00:54:35] And they're not looking for accolades and yet you've given them a platform. And I'm so grateful that you've [00:54:43] Evan Stern: done that. Well, I will say it's not even that. I think a lot of them as well, feel a responsibility to the people who go to these places, you know, like a dive bar, isn't just a place to grab a beer. [00:54:58] You know, a dive [00:55:00] bar represents an entire community. Um, you know, a dive bar, a dance hall. These are all places where people go to, to belong. That's that's, that's what, all of the, that's another through line that I think these places have in common, you know, whether it's a barbecue joint, a dive bar, a dance hall, people go to these places for community and for places to belong. [00:55:25] And I think that it's, it's, it's important to highlight that aspect as well. [00:55:31] Izolda Trakhtenberg: Absolutely. I agree. Yeah. Interestingly because people come and go, like you said, there are a lot of people who, who come to Texas, uh, especially Austin has, has ballooned. Uh, I guess the question that's come that's upper. Most of my mind right now is culturally the culture of places changes. [00:55:54] Right? And so, as the culture evolves, I [00:56:00] know that you're a lot of what vanishing postcards is about is, is capturing that before it goes away before it's no longer in its current form. Are there things that you've done that have been, uh, sort of in the process of changing or something is over and something new's coming to take its place? [00:56:21] And if so, what have those things been? [00:56:25] Evan Stern: Um, you mean my work or places I've been. [00:56:30] Izolda Trakhtenberg: I guess I'm not asking the question very well. I'm just wondering about culturally, your vanishing postcards project is focused on sort of the smaller, uh, heart, very heartfelt places in people in Texas now and perhaps, and perhaps hopefully someday elsewhere. [00:56:51] And as, as the culture changes in those places or for those dance halls, have you captured in any of the [00:57:00] episodes that you've done? That change taking place? Absolutely. [00:57:04] Evan Stern: Um, the, the very first place that I went to, um, was a bar called, uh, the, the dry Creek cafe. Um, it's been there for about 70 years. Um, it, when it first opened in the early 1950s, it really basically sat on the edge of the country. [00:57:22] Now, not only is it no longer country, um, it's now pretty much surrounded by mansion's. Um, it's now basically it's this ramshackle dilapidated dive that is surrounded by some of the priciest real estate in all of Texas. Um, but this bar has survived. Um, and I think it's one of the few places that you can go where you're reminded that, you know, before the tech, uh, millionaires invaded the Hills, the Hills were actually home to Cedar choppers, which was this, um, Appalachian subculture. [00:57:55] Um, and, uh, the, the very first person that I interviewed. [00:58:00] In, um, in Texas for the series was angel their bartender. Um, this was a tough day game, you know, raspy voice, you know, just changed smoker, you know, just, just fabulous, you know, just tough as nails, woman. Um, she was incredibly, um, reticent to, uh, to speak with me again, getting her to talk on the record and letting along to record her. [00:58:28] Um, just took every ounce of charm that I could possibly muster. But when she found out that I was okay with cussing, um, she opened right up. She let the F bombs fly. Um, we had a terrific time, um, and, uh, very sadly I think about, um, four months or so. Um, after I, I interviewed her, she died. Um, what was remarkable about angel is, um, as I said, the place opened in, um, I think it was 1950. [00:58:59] [00:59:00] Three. Um, she was only the third bartender to ever work there. Wow. Um, and so I'm incredibly grateful that I, you know, captured her, her voice and I have that record of her. Um, but you know, you have to ask, you know, when, when someone like that goes, you know, um, you know, what does that, how does that change a place? [00:59:22] You know, what does that do? I was actually just back in Austin last week. Um, and I went there to visit the place to, you know, just see if there was some additional footage I could get that would help bring the season two to a close, um, just to kind of see how that change had affected things. Um, and you know, so there, there are analogies, there, there are now like a few bartenders there who are like trading duties and whatnot. [00:59:48] Um, but I think what's kind of beautiful is that those who have filled in, you know, were all regulars, who, who knew and loved and cared about the bar. Um, [01:00:00] and, uh, you know, they dedicated a section of the bar to angel where they have, you know, her pictures and some things that she loved. Um, and, um, it was, it was just kind of interesting and reassuring to see, um, how, you know, yes, you know, when a beloved, you know, figured, uh, leaves, it's hard and it's challenging. [01:00:21] Um, but if the community is there. It will come. It will find a way to continue. At least for now. I'm grateful to see that, to know that the dry Creek is still there and that those who love it, um, are doing their part to, uh, to keep it going. [01:00:38] Izolda Trakhtenberg: I'm so glad to hear that story. That is wonderful. Evan. I want to thank you so much for taking the time to talk to me about this. [01:00:46] It's, it's such an important topic because it isn't one that, that we tend to focus on. So I'm really grateful that you took the time to tell me about vanishing postcards and to tell me about the culture and the people that you are, [01:01:00] uh, Capturing, if you will, for, for all of us, for all of us to enjoy. And I, and if you're listening to this, you need to go check out vanishing postcards. [01:01:08] I've listened to a few episodes and it's fabulous and amazing. Evan. If you wouldn't mind, I would love it. If you would give whatever social media. Uh, that you have so that if people want to find you, that they can. [01:01:22] Evan Stern: Absolutely. So the, um, you know, if you search, uh, vanishing postcards on Instagram, uh, you'll find it there. [01:01:29] Um, it also has a, a, a, a Facebook page, just search vanishing postcards. It should turn up. Um, you can also find me on Instagram as well. I'm at Evan stern NYC. Um, and, um, you know, I thank you so much and oh, and, but most important, most crucially, um, you know, please go find, listen to subscribe to vanishing postcards. [01:01:54] Um, since this is a podcast, uh, you know, whatever, you're listening to this on, I'm quite [01:02:00] confident that you'll find us there. We're on apple, we're on Spotify, we're on all the, uh, you know, whatever platform is out there. We're more than likely on, and I'd be most honored if you'd consider giving us a little. [01:02:12] Izolda Trakhtenberg: Awesome. And I will actually put all of that in the show notes so that if you're listening to this and you've seen the show notes, you'll be seeing the links to all of it. I just, people learn differently. So I like giving both the audio and the sort of, you can read it visual for it. Uh, Evan, again, I'm really grateful that you took the time to chat with me. [01:02:32] Me and I, I have one last question, if that's okay. Of course. It's a question I ask everybody who comes on the show and it's a silly question, but I find that it yields some profound results. Yeah. And the question is this, if you could sky write anything for the whole world to see what would you. [01:02:53] Evan Stern: What would I say for the whole world to see? [01:02:58] Oh my [01:03:00] goodness. Yeah. So I feel like I need to say something profound, like Buddha or something like that now, or Yoda. My goodness. [01:03:11] Izolda Trakhtenberg: I've had people say, eat your veggies. So it does not have to be, [01:03:16] Evan Stern: I mean, it is a cliche. Um, I've, I've heard it many times. Um, but I, I do believe that there is something to be said for the fact that if I were to write this in the sky, I would say luck is the result of preparation meeting opportunity. [01:03:34] I absolutely believe that to be true. Um, I always do my best to be, uh, you know, prepared and, uh, educate myself and, you know, and, and be ready so that, um, you know, when opportunity comes, you know, luck can, can happen. [01:03:53] Izolda Trakhtenberg: I love that. I think that's a great way to end this episode, Evan stern, you are fabulous, and I'm [01:04:00] so glad that you were here. [01:04:01] Thank you. This is the innovative mindset podcast. You have been listening to my wonderful conversation with Evan stern, who is the host of the vanishing postcards podcast, which of course, you know, you need to check out if you're liking what you're hearing, do me a favor, leave a review, let me know comment. [01:04:20] However you'd like to get in touch. I would appreciate it until next time. This is again, Izolda Trakhtenberg reminding you to listen, learn, laugh, and love a whole lot. [01:04:36] thanks so much for joining me today. I really appreciate you being here. 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Episode 8: Tim Welcomes internationally acclaimed tenor, Russell Thomas.   Tim drinks a Chimay and Russell a fancy lemonade. Tim and Russell reminisce about their first meeting at The Aspen Music Festival, and how that summer was pivotal for Russell on his artistic path. Russell tells how he fell in love with Opera by flipping through radio stations. They discuss Russell's approach to technique, the importance of being able to ask questions during the learning process, and just how far he's willing to go to work with the right teacher. They chat about what Russell thinks about while singing an aria and his complex internal balancing act. Russell also shares about his ‘big break' and the long process of putting himself out there. Russell speaks about his time at the Metropolitan Opera and the disparity in how he was treated there. He speaks to the impact that James Levine, John Fisher, and Ken Noda had on his artistic development. Russell talks about growing up in a primarily Cuban neighborhood in Miami, coming to understand his racial identity until he entered the classical music community and moved away/lived on his own, and repeatedly being pulled over by the police for driving in his own neighborhood. Russell shares a response to an early audition, and how this comment fueled Russell's drive to succeed. They discuss whether things are changing for BIPOC people and the general futility of hosting panels as a supposed action, the importance of white people joining the conversation about race today, and how white outrage is not enough. Russell talks about his new position at Los Angeles Opera as Artist in Residence. He reveals how he got the job and his vision for his work there. They talk about Russell's hopes for someday running an opera company, how racial disparity in the operatic world affects the makeup of general directors at companies across the country, and how this appointment at impacts his trajectory. More information on the program Russell is developing as part his tenure there, the HBCU Opera Career Comprehensive, can be found on the Los Angeles Opera Website here: https://www.laopera.org/about-us/hbcu-opera-career-comprehensive/ Tim shares more about the history and etymology of the Mvskoke and Seminole peoples in this episode during the land acknowledgement at the opening of the show. At the beginning of every episode, Tim and Russell perform a land acknowledgement, and Russell comments on how his ancestors were not brought to this land willingly as part of his acknowledgement. If you want to know more about land acknowledgments, and the original tenants and cultures of your current location, Tim suggests using the Native Land App https://apps.apple.com/us/app/native-land/id1194356597 or at https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ca.nativeland.NativeLand&hl=en&gl=US We heard a clip of Russell singing Roberto Devereux with San Francisco Opera info on that production can be found here: https://sfopera.com/devereux Russell talked about Vanished, a project with Ryan McKinney and Dallas Opera. Here is the info on that: Vanished – The Dallas Opera (NOW) Ryan McKinney has taken the last year to transform himself into a fully-fledged filmmaker and his latest work, “Vanished” might be his most impressive yet. The work, starring Russell Thomas and John Holiday, explores music by Gluck, Monteverdi, and Janáček assembled into a new narrative. https://www.thedallasopera.tv/products/vanished The story Tim mentioned for CBS Sunday morning is a story on interracial marriage for the anniversary of the Supreme Court Case Loving vs. Virginia, which did away with racial barriers in marriage. The link to that story is here: https://www.cbsnews.com/sunday-morning/ You can find Tim's Website here: timothylongmusic.com Special Thanks to Martha Redbone for her permission to use her song “Medicine Man” for the opening credits. More of her work can be found here and you can subscribe to her Youtube channel here. More information on Foundry Arts, the producer of Unequal Temperament, is available at www.thefoundryarts.com Foundry Arts is a lab for opera using collaboration and partnership to invest in artist development, dialogue, and expression, to sustain a rich, diverse, equitable, inclusive, and sustainable cultural landscape.

Naomi Osaka's decision to withdraw from the French Open rather than face a post match press conference became worldwide news. Osaka says her depression and anxiety make it impossible for her to speak in public. Most observers sympathize with Osaka's reserve, and castigate the tour directors for making her quit. But tennis legend Billy Jean King and most of Osaka's fellow players feel that successful players should appear publicly in order to raise the visibility and profitability of women's tennis. For herself, Osaka made $55 million last year— $50 million of it due to product endorsements. But her fellow pros often make nothing like that amount, and they resent Osaka's pulling away from public appearances, which would benefit all of them. What could resolve Osaka's predicament? Apparently treatment hasn't done so. Would practicing public speaking, Stanton and Zach wonder, be helpful? Stanton then reviews the history of confessionals by prominent people who have outed their substance and mental problems — including television comedian Sid Caesar, depression memoir (Darkness Visible) author William Styron, and CBS Sunday morning program host Jane Pauley. None provides good evidence that disease self-labeling and treatment lead to ultimate improvement. The American Temperance tradition is steeped in public confessions, which carried over to AA, and have now permeated the US. Yet depression, anxiety and bipolar diagnosis have been increasing dramatically in recent decades. Stanton and Zach discuss this never-ending cycle of self-defeating behavior, then what lies ahead for Osaka and the tennis program she abandoned. Finally, Stanton and Zach wonder about an article in a leading magazine saying that drinking is worse than ever in the US. But the author loves wine and wants to continue drinking it! Stanton and Zach wonder whether American attitudes towards alcohol have improved at all since Prohibition. ***** SUBSCRIBE to Our Channel ***** To get more of our content and help us grow: https://www.youtube.com/c/LifeProcessProgram?sub_confirmation=1 ***** FOLLOW us on Social ***** - Facebook: https://facebook.com/lifeprocessprogram - Twitter : https://twitter.com/lifeprocessprgm - Instagram: https://instagram.com/lifeprocessprogram - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/life-process-program ***** CONTACT US ****** - Website: https://lifeprocessprogram.com - Text us: +1 (802) - 391 - 4360 --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/lifeprocessprogram/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/lifeprocessprogram/support

Risk It! or Regret It! Whatever 'It' Is For You I Always Say. For Jim Campbell 'IT' was getting Bernie Madoff to talk to him and only him from prison to reveal for the first time and bizarrely the last time, the 'Untold Story Behind The Most Notorious Ponzi Scheme In History." That's the name of Jim Campbell's book he worked on for ten years. Bernie Madoff died in prison 2 weeks after Jim finally released the book. Today Jim joins me for an incredible conversation about what nobody else knew. Reminder: In June 2009 to avoid trial Bernie Madoff pleaded guilty to 11 Federal crimes for defrauding up to 16,000 investors of 4.8 billion dollars. Their original investments were worth close to 19.5 billion. Madoff was sentenced to 150 years in prison.  What motivated Bernie Madoff to launch the biggest Ponzi scheme in history?  The man who basically had the Gold Seal of Approval from every major investor as well as wealthy individuals and families ? Jim Campbell in his first book ever, got the last word on this story about the man who built great wealth for many people and destroyed the well being and lives of many people without regret. Jim will admit he will never completely know why both the Madoff family members and Madoff himself decided to trust him to investigate and tell the story of who knew or didn't know what was going on for years on the 17th Floor of the Lipstick Building in NYC.  Jim's book reveals incredibly that Bernie Madoff ran an honest business on 19th floor of the Lipstick building that was very ethically run by top caliber people. However, on the always 'locked' 17th floor of the same building, only young naive and unsophisticated workers being paid tons of money they couldn't make anywhere else were allowed. It was a total fraud from day one. None who worked on the 17th floor knew they were operating a Ponzi scheme that would become the biggest criminal enterprise in history.  The general perception of this human and financial tragedy was also that his family HAD to know. Jim Campbell gathered information that even the FBI did not have, to PROVE that Bernie Madoff's wife and his two sons did not know.  In fact, when Bernie Madoff came clean to his sons about the Ponzi scheme they immediately turned him in to authorities and never spoke to him again. Very tragically and likely from the stress of it all, both sons passed away. One from cancer the other from suicide. Bernie Madoff's wife Ruth survives and lives quietly in CT. Jim shares their very real conversations in his book.  The personal family tragedy was also a financial tragedy that destroyed many other families and individuals who trusted Bernie with their life savings as well. Totally insane this Ponzi scheme went on for so long as Jim Campbell also speaks to the fact that the SEC missed this incompetence for 40 years! There's great insight in this book as to how Bernie Madoff's brain could operate in two complete separate worlds at the same time.   PS I know Jim Campbell personally and like him very much from crossing paths often in the same radio studio over the years. Jim's nationally syndicated radio show 'Business Talk with Jim Campbell'  is known for his hard hitting interviews of leading figures from the world of business, politics and sports.  I know Jim's integrity so I happily agreed to promote his incredible book. Right after we locked in an interview date, the biggest coincidence in the world happened to Jim who just finished working on this book after 10 years!  Bernie Madoff died in prison and CBS Sunday morning was interviewing him in his backyard.  As of this post Jim now has a Hollywood agent who told him Netflix is making an offer on his book. I should mention the first agent Jim got tried and could not get anyone interested in his book. Life's like that.            

CSN was on CBS Sunday morning and it seems they hate David Crosby...Dave Grohl will co-host the Tonight show with Jimmy Fallon...and Bob Dylan turns 80 today!

Dan and Alonso welcome TCM host Ben Mankiewicz, who suggested two tales of men behind bars: the gritty and violent 1947 noir BRUTE FORCE and 1994's beloved THE SHAWSHANK REDEMPTION. Follow us @filmandmoviepod on Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook, and please leave us a five-star review on Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your episodes.Watch Ben on TCM and CBS Sunday morning, and follow him on Twitter at twitter.com/benmank77BRUTE FORCE is streaming on HBO Max https://play.hbomax.com/page/urn:hbo:page:GXk3jqwN-Ao7CZgEAACTM:type:feature and Criterion Channel https://www.criterionchannel.com/brute-forceTHE SHAWSHANK REDEMPTION is available for rental https://www.amazon.com/Shawshank-Redemption-Tim-Robbins/dp/B0091X4HQA/?tag=alonsoduralde-20Ben recommends CAGED https://www.amazon.com/Caged-Eleanor-Parker/dp/B075KLN5RV/?tag=alonsoduralde-20 and BRUBAKER https://www.amazon.com/Brubaker-Robert-Redford/dp/B00K0EDRU6/?tag=alonsoduralde-20Alonso recommends DEAD MAN WALKING https://play.hbomax.com/page/urn:hbo:page:GX3YXrgXmWKqStQEAAACZ:type:feature and PADDINGTON 2 https://www.amazon.com/Paddington-2-Ben-Wishaw/dp/B078SNPF7M/?tag=alonsoduralde-20

Air Date 2/27/2021 Today we take a look at the climate-fueled disaster in Texas from almost every angle; from the strictly scientific to the purely political and all of the disaster capitalism in between. Be part of the show! Leave us a message at 202-999-3991 or email Jay@BestOfTheLeft.com  Transcript MEMBERSHIP, Gift Memberships and Donations! (Get AD FREE Shows & Bonus Content) MERCHANDISE! REFER-O-MATIC! Sign up, share widely, get rewards. It's that easy! EPISODE SPONSOR: UnF*cking The Republic Podcast Want to advertise/sponsor the show? Details -> advertisecast.com/BestoftheLeft SHOW NOTES Ch. 1: Why on Earth are Winters Getting Worse if the Planet is Getting Warmer - Weathered - Air Date 2-1-21 Weathered is a show hosted by meteorologist Maiya May and produced by Balance Media that helps explain the most common natural disasters, what causes them, how they’re changing, and what we can do to prepare. Ch. 2: Power Outages Becomes Propaganda Nexus - The David Pakman Show - Air Date 2-17-21 Many Republicans, including Tucker Carlson, Texas Governor Greg Abbott, and others, falsely claim that the Texas power outages are a direct result of Texas being too reliant on "unreliable" wind power Ch. 3: Chris Hayes To Ted Cruz: Governance Is Not Just ‘Performative Trolling’ - All In - Air Date 2-18-21 There are a million things that a senator can do in the middle of a disaster, none of which interests a politician like Ted Cruz, who sees himself as basically Rush Limbaugh with a Senate office Ch. 4: Failed State Texas Power Grid Collapse Impacts Millions. Black & Brown Communities Are Worst Hit - Democracy Now! - Air Date 2-18-21 Millions of people in Texas were plunged into freezing cold and darkness as a major winter storm overwhelmed the state's power grid. More than 12 million Texans face water disruptions and have been ordered to boil tap water for safe consumption Ch. 5: Fossil Fuel Shock Doctrine: Naomi Klein on Deadly Deregulation & Why Texas Needs the Green New Deal - Democracy Now! - Air Date 2-22-21 Naomi Klein, senior correspondent at The Intercept and a professor at Rutgers University, says Republicans’ reaction is “because of panic” over their own culpability. Ch. 6: Adapting and Moving in a Warming World, with Beth Gibbons and Dr. Jola Ajibade - Warm Regards - Air Date 2-8-21 This episode of Warm Regards focuses on two more facets of decision making based on data about how the climate is changing. MEMBERS-ONLY BONUS CLIP(S) Ch. 7: How to Prepare for Climate Change Part 1 - Strange Days with Fernand Amandi - Air Date 2-5-21 Ch. 8: How to Prepare for Climate Change Part 2 - Strange Days with Fernand Amandi - Air Date 2-5-21 Ready for the coming impact of climate change? Fear not as CBS Sunday science expert David Pogue tells #StrangeDaysPodcast how to get ready + Frank Schaeffer warns how radicalized evangelical Christians threaten Biden’s agenda & democracy. Ch. 9: Tara Houska and Ruth Breech on Divesting from Toxic Capitalism - For The Wild - Air Date 8-21-19 Climate disaster is unfolding before our eyes every day, and yet banks have poured $1.9 trillion into maintaining and expanding the fossil fuel industry since the Paris Agreement was adopted. VOICEMAILS Ch. 10: The divide is more religious than political - V from Central New York FINAL COMMENTS Ch. 11: Final comments on cancel culture Article: Right-wing media helped usher in the age of “cancel culture,” but now pretend it's an invention of the left MUSIC (Blue Dot Sessions): Opening Theme: Loving Acoustic Instrumental by John Douglas Orr  Voicemail Music: Low Key Lost Feeling Electro by Alex Stinnent Activism Music: This Fickle World by Theo Bard Closing Music: Upbeat Laid Back Indie Rock by Alex Stinnent   Produced by Jay! Tomlinson Visit us at BestOfTheLeft.com SUPPORT THE SHOW Listen Anywhere! Check out the BotL iOS/Android App in the App Stores! Follow at Twitter.com/BestOfTheLeft Like at Facebook.com/BestOfTheLeft Contact me directly at Jay@BestOfTheLeft.com

In this episode of The Meyer Chronicles Andrew Meyer interviews Emmy award-winning, Travel Expert for CBS Sunday morning and the host of the hugely popular Travel Detective Podcast series about... not what you think. Andrew Meyer interviews Peter Greenberg about his first job in 1971 when Andrew hired Peter to be a college rep for A&M Records in the midwest. Craziness ensues including having to buy dope for Cheech and Chong and... a very young Peter Greenberg asks..."how can I expense it". And there is so much more. Enjoy!

I walked to the kitchen this morning and was grateful for two things... 1. That I washed the dishes last night but a few items were still left dirty in the sink. 2. That the dining room table was taken over by a puzzle. Funny how it's the little things lately that bring joy. The thing is, for so long my home had to be perfect. If you walked through my front door you might have asked yourself "does anyone live here?" I was proud of how tidy things were, how people commented on the beauty and flow of my environment, how everything was in place.... until the pandemic hit.  While I sat in my clean, organized, and beautiful home I realized I craved a bunch of shoes in the front hallway, dirty dishes in the sink, and random potato chips underneath the couch cushions! Why? Because that would mean life was actually happening and people I love were experiencing it with me. I now realize the extreme need for order was a veiled sense of control. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE organization. When my desk is clear and pretty with a vase of flowers, I tend to enjoy work more.  If my bed is made before I start my day, my experience that day feels more settled. How my keys hang on the little hook in the coat closet does in fact make me feel calmer knowing I won't be running around searching for them in a panic while I am already 5 minutes late. Yet with anything, there exists this dance with moderation.  The flexibility we allow within our schedules. Being OKAY with the late-night, Netflix binge-watching oily popcorn pan sitting in the sink overnight.  Averting your eyes to the dust in favor of a present and mindful conversation with a friend.  I knew I had encountered a positive turning point when my niece moved back in with me and commented on the "here and there" clutter by saying...  "IT ACTUALLY MAKES YOU SEEM MORE...HUMAN" OH... M... GEE I didn't know whether to laugh or cry! That comment has lingered in my heart and soul and has saved me each time I want to run the vacuum OR call my parents back...wash the dishes OR sit down and watch the latest episode of The Crown with her. It's brought me back to reality when I get anxiety about a missing remote control or glasses or AirPods (funny how they ALWAYS eventually show up especially when the only places I go these days are the grocery store and on walks!) In all seriousness, I'm grateful for the clutter. No, I am not talking about extreme clutter that holds you down and drains your energy. I am talking about loving that Thanksgiving dinner had to be on the little pull-out table in my kitchen because the Parisian puzzle my niece is joyfully working on is holding court on my pretty dining room table.  I am talking about leaving the bed unmade on a Sunday in favor of watching CBS Sunday morning. These and many other moments are where I have learned to feel a sense of contentment in what used to be viewed as "clutter." Let's take it a step further and branch outside our home into "relational clutter"... in the form of friends, family, and colleagues.  How "okay" are you with the messiness of life when it comes to differing opinions? There is a ton of that going around these days with the two big "P's"... POLITICS PANDEMIC Now more than ever, it's important to be okay with this kind of clutter.  Everywhere you turn, you may have people in your life like I do who have differing opinions on both topics. For me, it's been an experiment in being curious and (trying) to firmly plant myself in my own business while resisting the urge to control, judge, or change anyone's minds.  This mantra has been life saving and thank you Wayne Dyer for letting me adjust it a bit... "What another person thinks of me and how that person thinks is none  of my business." There is freedom in letting go of the need to be liked and instead loving yourself enough to let go of trying to manage other people's perceptions of you.  When you release the need for outside validation regarding how pretty your home is or the opinions you possess, a sense of peace arises and you finally have the time to focus on what actually brings you joy, contentment, and calm.    If you find yourself, like me, looking outward for control perhaps it might be useful to go within and investigate what you might be avoiding internally. Becoming vulnerable with ourselves, making peace with ourselves, and finding healing within ourselves is really the only kind of control we have in this life.  So this week, if you find yourself freaking out about the clutter, take a breath and know that the answer to any roadblock or challenge lies within you. The world and any hiccups that come your way is an invitation into growth.  I'll leave you with 3 tips that have helped me navigate this sense of moderation as it relates to the many forms of clutter.... 1. PCC Pause, Challenge Yourself with A Question, and Make a Choice. Whatever clutter triggers you, simply pause for a few breaths and ask yourself "how do I want to feel in this moment/during this conversation?" The choice you make will literally dictate your reality.  2. Prioritize Even though it's driving you crazy having the pile of laundry sitting on your bed waiting to be folded, does it really make sense to quick finish it while risking running late to meet a friend? Is it helpful to linger too long about a loved one being upset with how they perceive you or your opinions... OR would it make better sense to protect your precious joy and focus your attention on cultivating more of it today? 3. Focus On And Delight In "Mini Miracles" The sun rose today just for you and there wasn't anything you needed to do to make that happen.  The rose tea arrived  (from "The Tea Spot" in Boulder, CO!..highly recommend) and waiting to be enjoyed this morning. There are hundreds of things you could do today to bring joy... which one will you choose? Adopt a dog? Make banana bread? Host a Zoom family call?  (Need inspiration? Click here for my favorite "Tranquility Treats" That's it for this week my friend. I am off for a walk so the dishwasher, laundry, AND BED can be attended to later. Who would have thought!!! But it's Sunday, right??!!  Have a great week :) Love, Meg  

Andrew Catalon, who will be calling the Jets-Dolphins game on CBS Sunday, joins JJ to break down what to keep an eye on in the game and the state of both teams entering the matchup. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Busy Thursday edition of GCR-Keegan Akin looks great, Ronnie Stanley has a DIFFERENT injury and more. Shortly into Hour 1, the great Kevin Harlan joined us before he calls Ravens/Texans for CBS Sunday. How much pressure is there when calling a Lamar Jackson game knowing he might do something amazing at any time (considering, you know, he IS Houdini). Later in Hour 1, PressBox Ravens beat writer Bo Smolka joined us to discuss Stanley's injury, any concerns about the stretch run against the Browns and more. Early in Hour 2, ESPN Big Ten reporter Adam Rittenberg checked in to discuss the conference's return to play-how did they bungle this so much? Then we made our weekly NFL picks-lots of big numbers this week, including the Ravens game. And at the bottom of Hour 2, the PressBox Fantasy Football Show as Ken Zalis joined us in studio-what is he overreacting to and unwilling to overreact to from Week 1 of the NFL season?

On this special episode of Spoilers, Harper discusses her favorite reality show, Big Brother, with her amazing friend and BB superfan, Abbie! Check out this season of Big Brother: Allstars on CBS Sunday, Wednesday, and Thursday at 8/7c. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app

Get Exclusive Pop Culture Show video interviews, video content and bonus video exclusively from our Instagram. Sign up for our Pop Cult and be the first to get show announcements, free stuff and insider information only available to cult members. Speaker 1 (00:00:00):Welcome to the Pop Culture Show with Barnes, Leslie, and Cubby. Barnes (00:00:04):Welcome to the Pop Culture Show. Coming up today, Emmy winning director Ken Fuchs from The Bachelor, Shark Tank, Bachelorette, Family Feud. Cannot remember them all but I'm sure he will tell us. He's coming up. He's got some good inside scoop, guys. Leslie (00:00:18):Behind the scenes. Cubby (00:00:19):Great behind the scenes stuff, yeah. Barnes (00:00:21):I cannot wait to talk to him because there's so many things ... All those shows are all about behind the scenes. I mean, that's what makes them. Please rate, review, and subscribe. Please rate, review, and subscribe. We have some sad news. We're announcing right now. It wasn't planned but we're going to go and let you know that we are all three moving to Denmark. Cubby (00:00:42):Yeah, because we're huge there. Leslie (00:00:43):We have to. Barnes (00:00:43):We're huge in Denmark. We're number 10 in Denmark. So we've decided all to take the tax breaks and everything that comes with moving to Denmark. So we'll be heading that way soon. So thank you. Cubby (00:00:56):Also Australia. We've been making some ground up there. Barnes (00:00:58):And Great Britain. It's catching on everywhere but America. Leslie (00:01:04):What's the missing link? Barnes (00:01:05):Maybe tell somebody about us. I don't know. Help a brother out. Cubby (00:01:10):Follow us on social media if you could. We are the Pop Culture Show on Instagram. Even if you can go on your own Facebook page and talk about us, spread the word, every little bit helps. We're giving away money on this episode. Barnes (00:01:22):How about Tag a Friend Week? How about that? Cubby (00:01:24):I love that. Leslie (00:01:26):I like that idea. Barnes (00:01:26):Somewhere in your social media, just write a little something sweet and nice about the little show that could and say, "Hey, if you guys are looking for a good podcast, check these guys out. They're number 10 in Denmark," whatever you have to do. Cubby hit on something key. We're about to give away some money. I hope this doesn't go horribly wrong. It's called Pop Quiz and it's our first week giving away money. It's 50 bucks. Leslie (00:01:48):Fingers crossed. 50 bucks is a lot. Cubby (00:01:50):And it gets bigger. Barnes (00:01:52):Yeah, root for them to fail because next week, it'll be 100. If not, we'll just reset to 50. I'm saying right now, you know the question, both of you. What would you say on the hard scale, on a one to 10, 10 being the hardest? Cubby (00:02:08):I'm going to go eight, because you really had to pay attention. Leslie (00:02:10):It's a tough one. Barnes (00:02:11):It's not just like, "Hey, what color is the sky?" I mean, you had to have paid attention and not just like loosely. Cubby (00:02:21):How do we find this contestant? Leslie (00:02:23):Are they in Denmark? Barnes (00:02:24):Comment. They just comment. Yeah, it's the Denmark. It's one of those people. No, we have a post at the top tagged on our Facebook page and you just put Quiz Me in the comments and then we're going to pick somebody. That's it. I mean, it's pretty easy and I picked her at random. Her name is Christine Fitzgerald. Should be coming up in a few moments. This will be a video segment so you have to check it out. Because I'm sure there are going to be technical problems of some sort that you'll enjoy. Cubby (00:02:50):You'll get to see my shirt. Barnes (00:02:51):Cubby, this is ridiculous. What is that? Leslie (00:02:54):His shirt matches my fuchsia microphone. Barnes (00:02:57):What is it? Cubby (00:02:57):My wife found this in Marshall's. It was on sale for 5.99. I love retro and this is a circa 1991, saved by the bell kind of fashion statement. Barnes (00:03:08):It's about three sizes too small for you, first. Cubby (00:03:10):Yeah. This is called quarantine life right here. Barnes (00:03:13):How about not show- Leslie (00:03:13):The COVID-10. Barnes (00:03:15):He just raised his shirt. Leslie (00:03:17):COVID-10 or COVID-20? Barnes (00:03:19):You were already showing a little too much tummy for me. Cubby (00:03:22):I know. No, I'm not going to lie to you. I've probably gained 15 pounds since March. Barnes (00:03:26):I don't care about pounds, I'm just talking about skin. Your shirt was, it looks like you're wearing your youngest son you don't have shirt. Cubby (00:03:34):Well, this is a bad angle. I'll tell you that right now. Leslie (00:03:37):I kind of feel like we should give away his shirt as well as the 50 bucks. Cubby (00:03:42):That should be the losing price. Are we going to keep this going? Like if she wins today, are we going to ... I know it's not going to roll over. But are we going to have 50 bucks next week? Barnes (00:03:50):Yeah, why not? Cubby (00:03:52):Okay, so we're going to keep this going. All right. Leslie (00:03:54):Are we the only podcast giving away money? Barnes (00:03:56):I haven't heard of any podcasts giving away any money. Leslie (00:03:59):I haven't either. Cubby (00:04:00):All right, last question and I'll move on. What if this keeps rolling over and we're up to out of our budget? What if it's like $900? Barnes (00:04:09):The minute we opened our mouths, we're out of our budget. Cubby (00:04:12):True. Barnes (00:04:14):We all exchange different weeks paying with our Venmo. Cubby's got next. College football's back, guys. Leslie (00:04:21):I had no idea. Barnes (00:04:22):And NFL. Cubby (00:04:24):Yeah, it was good to see that. Barnes (00:04:24):This week, NFL is back. I mean, they were the most boring of the boring games, no offense, but they weren't exciting. What was interesting ... Did you watch any ... Well, Leslie, how many did you watch? Leslie (00:04:35):I didn't even know it started so ... Barnes (00:04:35):Cubby, did you watch? Leslie (00:04:35):... carry on. Cubby (00:04:39):I watched Marshall play Eastern Kentucky for 10 minutes and that was really boring. Barnes (00:04:45):You noticed the camera angles? Cubby (00:04:47):No. Barnes (00:04:48):They've moved the cameras up in the stands and they're angling them down so you don't see the stands. I thought it was very interesting. Watch the next time you watch a game. So they put the cameras- Cubby (00:04:58):They did have a few people at the game. There were a few people ... Barnes (00:05:00):I know but they're trying purposely not to show the empty stands. Cubby (00:05:03):Correct. Barnes (00:05:04):I thought it was interesting. Leslie (00:05:06):Do they pipe in ... I'm just asking because I haven't watched. Are they piping in sound effects and crowd noises? Barnes (00:05:11):I haven't been to a game yet, but I heard they were going to. Cubby (00:05:16):The NBA and the NHL, they're doing a good job of making it sound as real as possible and look as real as possible. They've been doing a great job. With the Marshall game yesterday, had real fans. It sounded like a high school game. But it was good to see it back. Barnes (00:05:30):You know what? They could be on to something. Maybe that's what we should do for the Pop Culture Show. Let's just pipe in fans. Leslie (00:05:35):We need it. Cubby (00:05:36):Crowd noise. Barnes (00:05:37):How about fake people email us all the time? Cubby (00:05:39):The Kentucky Derby, too, was something that I forgot about, that normally I would be all about. That happened on Saturday. Barnes (00:05:45):Yep. Leslie (00:05:45):Completely didn't see that. Did you guys watch the VMAs because they used these really cool virtual reality stages and they opened the show with the weekend, which was phenomenal. That performance was phenomenal. Then Lady Gaga with her masks. Cubby (00:06:00):You guys were talking about Venmo, you were talking about Venmo a minute ago, maybe you can help me with this because last week I got hacked. I'm not sure how it happened. Leslie (00:06:09):Uh-oh. Barnes (00:06:09):You got hacked on Venmo? Cubby (00:06:11):Well, no, no, no. Actually, it reminded me, it was on PayPal. So I have a credit card attached to my PayPal account and I ... Don't laugh at me. I've called QVC a couple of times and ordered stuff. Leslie (00:06:23):A couple meaning how many? Cubby (00:06:26):Two times in the last year. So the only time I've used my PayPal account is through the credit card on QVC. Anyway, long story short, my credit card alerts me if anything over $100 is happening. And I got an alert that a online order was placed for $900 for a Roomba on QVC. Barnes (00:06:46):Is that the vacuum that moves? Cubby (00:06:48):The vacuum that moves. And I clearly didn't order it. I asked my wife she says, "No. Are you crazy? I wouldn't do that." I didn't know where to begin. Do I call QVC first? Do I call my credit card first or do I call PayPal? Barnes (00:06:59):PayPal is fast. Leslie (00:07:01):They are? Barnes (00:07:01):They'll call you right back. Cubby (00:07:03):What I ended up doing is PayPal, they helped me out a lot and they told me to cancel my credit card and change my password on my PayPal. And then I called QVC and canceled the order. It was going to a different address. Whoever did this had my name on it, used my billing address, and it was being shipped to their address, which actually was 30 minutes away from our house. I looked it up on Zillow. And it was actually kind of a nice house. I'm like, "Is this a mistake maybe? Is it the same name as me?" I don't know. Barnes (00:07:36):Cubby, you order more than any human being that I know so maybe it was a mistake. Cubby (00:07:42):No, it was not ... Leslie (00:07:44):Wait, I'm following this. Did you go to that person's house and knock on the door? Cubby (00:07:48):No, I'm tempted to because it pisses me off. But also I'm a nice guy, as you know, and you guys are all nice people and I'm always willing to give the benefit of the doubt. And I'm almost thinking maybe QVC made a mistake because it's the same name as me, first and last. It is New Jersey, it's where I live. Barnes (00:08:04):That leans to a mistake if it's the same name. Cubby (00:08:07):It's the same but they could have used my name because of billing purposes. Leslie (00:08:11):Barnes would have gone to the house 10 hours ago. Barnes (00:08:14):Armed. Cubby (00:08:15):So I canceled my credit card and QVC and all that. Barnes (00:08:19):I think it sounds like a mistake. Same name. Leslie (00:08:21):Wait a second, Cubby, quick question. Is there a possibility that after one of the five o'clock Jager shots that you might have called QVC ... Barnes (00:08:31):I want a Roomba. Leslie (00:08:31):Come on. Cubby (00:08:34):Actually, not at all because my wife and I talk about every big purchase and she would have killed me if I had done that without her knowing. Leslie (00:08:42):That's expensive. I didn't know that's how much the thing was. Cubby (00:08:44):It was like $850. Speaker 1 (00:08:46):Get money. Get paid. Welcome to Pop Quiz on the Pop Culture Show. Get one question about last week's show correct and win cash. Here we go. Barnes (00:09:00):Money, money, money, money. Say hey to Christine Fitzgerald. Hey, Christine. Christine (00:09:04):Hi. Cubby (00:09:04):Welcome, Christine. Where are you at right now? Christine (00:09:07):I am in Woodstock, Georgia. Barnes (00:09:08):Nice. Cubby (00:09:08):Cool. Barnes (00:09:09):You're the first person ever to play Pop Quiz and ... Christine (00:09:11):I know. I've been listening to you guys since 1996. So this is just ... I'm so happy. Barnes (00:09:16):Well, that's great. Leslie (00:09:17):Thank you. Barnes (00:09:18):We just started the show this March so that's amazing. Christine (00:09:20):I know. I've been listening to the show since episode one and telling all my friends. It's been great. Barnes (00:09:26):Well, thank you. Leslie (00:09:26):Thank you so much. Cubby (00:09:28):It means a lot. Thank you. Barnes (00:09:29):We knew somebody was listening. We just didn't know who. Christine (00:09:31):Well here I am. Hi. Barnes (00:09:34):Someone like you who listens a lot, this is going to be a no-brainer, you're going to win the money, which is going to make everyone else mad. Because if you don't win the 50 bucks, it's going to go up next week. Christine (00:09:44):Exactly. Cubby (00:09:45):So are you ready to play, Christine? Christine (00:09:47):I am ready to play. Cubby (00:09:48):All right. I mean, it's rather easy for you if you listen to every second of the episode last week. Christine (00:09:53):I did. I did. Cubby (00:09:53):So here we go. Charles Esten was our guest last week. We talked about how he auditioned for Band of Brothers, but he lost the role to what actor? I need the first and last name. You have 10 seconds. Go. Christine (00:10:10):Damian Lewis. Barnes (00:10:10):Two seconds. That's unbelievable. Christine (00:10:18):I love him so much so I listened to that part very intently. I'm a big fan of his. Barnes (00:10:23):We thought this is a hard question. Leslie (00:10:24):Excellent. Excellent. Excellent. Barnes (00:10:26):Okay, Cubby, get her Venmo and give her 50 bucks. Leslie (00:10:30):Congratulations. Cubby (00:10:31):I will. Christine (00:10:31):Thank you so much. Leslie (00:10:33):We appreciate you listening, too. Christine (00:10:34):Absolutely. Absolutely. I'm so glad you're back. It's made my Monday so much happier. Barnes (00:10:40):This is awesome. Well, please, hold on one second. We're going to put you in the green room and we'll get your Venmo or your Apple Pay or your whatever, your PayPal, and we'll hit you with 50 bucks. Christine (00:10:50):Thank you so much. Barnes (00:10:51):You're very welcome. Leslie (00:10:51):It's actually like, this turned out to be pretty easy, Barnes. Seriously, all you have to do to join in on the fun and win some easy money is just comment, "Quiz me. Quiz me." popcultureshow.com. Just go to our Facebook, the pinned page and just say Quiz Me to win cash. Barnes (00:11:08):There's a pinned post at the very top. Just on that and put Quiz Me and you're set. Cubby (00:11:12):Christine, can you do us a favor? Christine (00:11:14):Yes. Cubby (00:11:14):Now that you love us so much, can you post on your social how much you love this new podcast called the Pop Culture Show and you should listen to it just on your Facebook? Christine (00:11:22):Absolutely. Cubby (00:11:23):Just spread the word because we have five people, I think, listening. Christine (00:11:26):I will absolutely. Barnes (00:11:27):Now that you're on payroll. So it's [crosstalk 00:11:29] Cubby (00:11:30):You're getting paid now. Exactly. Christine (00:11:31):Exactly. Barnes (00:11:32):Congratulations, Christine. Thanks for playing Pop Quiz. Christine (00:11:34):Thank you so much. Leslie (00:11:34):A lot of celebrity news this week, guys. And at the end, we're going to talk about the highest paid celebrities. Some of them I'm sure you'll be like a no-brainer. But I saw this and thought it was really interesting. What do you think is the biggest most liked tweet of all time? Barnes (00:11:51):Well, it had to be Chadwick Boseman. Leslie (00:11:53):It is. It's the tweets sent from his official account announcing his passing. That is the most-liked Tweet of all time. Barnes (00:12:00):I've seen that. Story has been around all week. I've been seeing it everywhere. I was surprised that that ... I wonder what it was before that. Leslie (00:12:06):I'm not sure about that but there's a couple other stories. I don't know if you've seen some of his fans, the Black Panther fans, are saying, "Hey, Marvel, you can't recast the Black Panther." Because there's a couple of movies coming out. So I don't know what they're going to do but fans are up in arms going, "You cannot recast this part." Cubby (00:12:24):What are they thinking? Re-title? Leslie (00:12:25):I don't know. I don't know. It's just he gave such a brilliant performance. Barnes (00:12:29):Why not honor him with casting it in a ... I don't think you need to shut the franchise down. It's horrible that he's passed. But I think he would probably say, "No, you've got to keep this going." Cubby (00:12:41):Right. And dedicate it to him when the movie starts. Leslie (00:12:44):I'll tell you what, another big score though for Netflix. They're going to get his final movie that he ever made. It's Ma Rainey's Black Bottom. It's about August Wilson, played by a Pulitzer Prize winning writer August Wilson and it's about this blues icon name Ma Rainey. Netflix got it. I mean, Netflix is just on fire. I've been reading all this stuff this week about Netflix. Did you see where they're going to offer a bunch of free stuff on Netflix this week? Barnes (00:13:14):They're going to streaming Stranger Things maybe and ... Leslie (00:13:17):The unpay wall. It's a netflix.com watch free and they have The Two Popes, the first episode of Stranger Things, Birdbox, a lot of stuff. Cubby (00:13:30):The power of Netflix, Cobra Kai was on YouTube a year and a half ago, that was the Karate Kid reboot. I saw it a year and a half ago. But all weekend, people have been talking about, "Cobra Kai on Netflix. Just binged it. It's so good." I'm like, "I knew about this a year and a half ago." But because Netflix picked it up, it took it to a whole new level. Barnes (00:13:49):Well, actually YouTube vacated it. Cubby (00:13:51):Did they? Barnes (00:13:52):You're right. They're getting out of original production. Cubby (00:13:56):I didn't know that. Barnes (00:13:56):So they bought the rights to those first two, but yes, they did pick it up. What's wild is there are people talking about it and I just can't ... I tried to start it, I'm 10 minutes in. I have a hard time with retro stuff. Cubby (00:14:11):It's not bad though. Give it a chance, please. Barnes (00:14:13):I am. I'm 10 minutes in and I'm going to give Staten Island King, whatever that thing, a chance. Leslie (00:14:17):Staten Island King, whatever. Now I heard about the show, Carrie Underwood tweeted about it and everybody's talking about it. But I had no idea, Cubby, that it had started on YouTube. It's the same when you guys made fun of me about the Michael Jordan, the documentary The Last Dance. I mean, I never watched it on ESPN. It had a whole new life on Netflix. Barnes (00:14:39):It's so good. But Cobra Kai was filmed here in Atlanta mostly. Leslie (00:14:42):Cobra Kai. Barnes (00:14:43):You can't tell watching it. Cubby (00:14:44):Check out CBS Sunday morning. Great piece on Netflix and how they have just exploded ... Barnes (00:14:50):Dominated. Cubby (00:14:51):... since the pandemic started. Leslie (00:14:53):How about a $100 million Netflix deal from Meghan and Harry? Cubby (00:14:59):Is it official? Leslie (00:15:00):Well, I don't know if it's official but apparently they're talking to them about TV show, documentaries, films, scripted kid's programs, everything. Barnes (00:15:09):Why is everybody all up on them? What do they have to say? I mean serious, why are they such a hot commodity? Leslie (00:15:17):I think people actually really liked him. He was like the bad brother and a lot of people were fans of hers when she was an actress. I don't know what the allure is. Barnes (00:15:25):A lot of people think she's an opportunist. Leslie (00:15:29):That has been obviously ... I don't know if you ever saw some of the vicious things that Piers Morgan had to say about her. Barnes (00:15:35):I'll start with the royal family, for one. What do you think her ass is on the outside? It's just strange. Cubby (00:15:41):Yeah, I don't care about it, to be honest with you. I know some people live and breathe it. Leslie (00:15:45):Okay, who has 200 million followers on Instagram? Barnes (00:15:49):Not us. Leslie (00:15:50):First female to reach that, Ariana Grande. 200 million. Cubby (00:15:55):I remember when Katy Perry was on top for a while and Justin Bieber. But Ariana Grande now, huh? Leslie (00:15:59):Guess who's second place? Barnes (00:16:00):You know what would be a fun bit is between the three of us, we have to try and book a guest that we know one of the other two can't stand. That would be a great segment. Leslie (00:16:12):So you're saying you want me to get Meghan Markle on or ... Barnes (00:16:15):I don't even know who that is. Oh, yeah, that's her. I'm saying someone notable that you've been like, "Ugh, really?" Cubby would try to book Ariana Grande on the show and then I'd have to stomach it the whole time. Cubby (00:16:27):You would love it because she has 200 million followers and she would turn that to the podcast. Leslie (00:16:31):True. Okay, coming in second place is Kylie Jenner with 193 million Instagram followers. Cubby (00:16:41):I'm still suspect because you can buy so many things. I still don't know if they're real people but whatever. Leslie (00:16:47):All right, quiz for you guys. When was the last time Arnold Schwarzenegger was on television? Because he's coming back. Barnes (00:16:55):He hosted The Apprentice. Leslie (00:16:57):Yep. Celebrity Apprentice. 2017. Barnes (00:17:00):It was awful. Leslie (00:17:03):Well, now he is going to start a global spy adventure for television revolving around a father and a daughter. Barnes (00:17:11):That might work. Leslie (00:17:11):I know this coming back to TV. Cubby (00:17:12):Do you think he went away for a while after all that whole housekeeping incident? Leslie (00:17:17):Yes, such an embarrassment and sad actually. Mariah Carey just got a big Apple TV deal. She's going to do a magical Christmas special with a lot of big guests. I wonder how much she got paid for that. Barnes (00:17:29):Cubby, you know Mariah Carey? Cubby (00:17:31):I don't know her, interviewed her a million times. Barnes (00:17:33):I asked because New York, I mean, you get a lot of people on there. Cubby (00:17:36):She used to come up to Z100 all the time. Barnes (00:17:38):Is she nice? Cubby (00:17:40):She's really nice, but a lot of maintenance involved. I mean, you know ... Leslie (00:17:45):Can't deny that voice. Cubby (00:17:47):They come in an hour ahead of time before an interview because everything is filmed for online, and her people come in an hour before. "Where she's sitting? Where's the lights?" Barnes (00:17:56):Where's your president? Cubby (00:17:56):"Don't film this side." It's pretty high maintenance. Leslie (00:18:00):She does have a side. I remember that, right? Which side is one ... Cubby (00:18:03):It's her left. No. Let me think. She doesn't want her left really to be seen a lot. It's mainly her right. That's what she prefers. Barnes (00:18:10):What's wrong with her left? Cubby (00:18:11):I don't know. I think it looks fine. But you'll notice a lot of her videos and pictures, she's really, right side is more ... Barnes (00:18:19):[inaudible 00:18:19] a devil tidbit, Cubby. Leslie (00:18:20):I love that. They're celebrating the 25th anniversary of All I Want For Christmas. That always makes the charts every year anyway because it's one of the most popular Christmas songs. You know what she should do is invite Nick Cannon on the show. Barnes (00:18:34):Don't they hate each other? Leslie (00:18:36):I don't know if they hated ... I think they're amicable, right? Cubby (00:18:39):I agree. I think they're civil. I think it might have gotten bad there for a second the first it happened, but I think they've cleared the air a bit. Leslie (00:18:47):So I didn't see a lot of fanfare on David Blaine and flying with the balloons but it just happened. I guess I did it live on YouTube, but he floated over the Arizona desert holding about 50 helium balloons. Did you watch the video for that? Barnes (00:19:04):I saw a clip of it. Cubby (00:19:04):I saw the clip. That was it. Barnes (00:19:07):YouTube pay for that? Leslie (00:19:09):I'm not sure. He floated 24,900 feet, which is about 4.7 miles and then he parachuted back to the ground. Cubby (00:19:18):Is it bad that I just don't care? He did a few things 20 years ago. It was really kind of cool. Leslie (00:19:25):So weird I didn't hear anything about it. By the way, we had known that the Rock had COVID, Dwayne Johnson. I guess he's better now but he's talking about it. Dwayne Johnson (00:19:35):My wife, Lauren, as well as my two baby girls and myself, we have all tested positive for COVID-19. I can tell you that this has been one of the most challenging and difficult things we have ever had to endure as a family. And for me personally, too, as well. I've gone through some doozies in the past. Barnes (00:19:58):Is that now? I know the clip is now but is this from the past they tested positive? Leslie (00:20:05):Yeah, because they said he's on the other side of it right now. Barnes (00:20:07):I just wonder how long ago that was. Cubby (00:20:09):Do you know how they first suspected that they had it? No one could smell what he was cooking. Good night everybody, drive safely. Leslie (00:20:19):Then you saw Robert Pattinson has COVID, and he was in that number one movie over the weekend, Tenet. Barnes (00:20:25):I shouldn't even say this. Leslie (00:20:31):He's like the new Batman. Barnes (00:20:32):These sets and their protocols are kind of a joke. I mean, you walk by and they stick a thing near you and they go like, "Raise your nose up. You don't have COVID. Keep working." But when Batman gets it, you have to stop. I think that they probably overlook a lot. I don't have facts, I'm just saying that the tests ... My friends that work in the business say the testing is a joke. Leslie (00:20:55):I will tell you that I'm ... Barnes (00:20:55):They touch you and, "Nope, you don't have it." Leslie (00:21:00):... working for Viacom and they just had the VMAs and now we're working on the CMT Music Awards, the protocols are really, really, really strict. Barnes (00:21:09):Good. It should be. Leslie (00:21:09):Not quarantining and yeah. Barnes (00:21:10):Shows that are out in the field, they're getting very liberal with their testing. Leslie (00:21:15):By the way, I didn't mention this at the top of the show, but I watched Mulan, which Lanie has been wanting to watch. Remember it was supposed to have a huge theatrical release, but it came to Disney Plus over the weekend, we paid 29.95, 30 bucks for it. Because even if you have Disney Plus, you still have to pay for it. So it'll be really interesting to see how well it does. Cubby (00:21:35):That's messed up, by the way. You're already paying for a subscription and then you have to pay on top of that? Leslie (00:21:42):You have to pay on top of that. But I'm imagining of you have a family with a bunch of kids and stuff, that's still cheaper than going to the theater, right? Cubby (00:21:48):True. True. Leslie (00:21:49):Did you guys see that Billy Eilish is going to help design the logo for the 2028 Olympics? Barnes (00:21:55):That girl, she's so talented. She's getting so many cool unique gigs. Leslie (00:21:59):They're bringing 20 different creators. Well, I love what she said, is she said, "The font I chose is the font that I use for my logo. And who knows if that's going to be relevant in my life in eight years. But I have this whole thing about not wanting to please my past self or future self. It's all about pleasing your present self." That's what she had to say. Cubby (00:22:19):She's got a big future. Leslie (00:22:20):So should we go through the highest paid celebrities? Barnes (00:22:23):Of the year or of all time? Leslie (00:22:26):No, it says The Highest Paid Celebrities. This is the annual list from Forbes. Cubby (00:22:31):Now, correct me if I'm wrong, I thought we talked about how the Rock was leading one poll last week or two weeks ago. Leslie (00:22:37):Yes. I have the top 10. He is number 10. Cubby (00:22:40):The Rock is number 10? Barnes (00:22:42):I thought he was one. I thought he was one. Leslie (00:22:44):No. This is the Highest Paid Celebrities of 2020. Cubby (00:22:47):Here we go. Leslie (00:22:48):He's number 10, 87.5 million. LeBron James is number nine. Barnes (00:22:53):Look at that. That's with Coronavirus, people. Get off your couch. Leslie (00:22:56):It's crazy. 88.2. Howard Stern, 90 million at number eight. Number seven, Neymar, 95.5 million, soccer player. Tyler Perry at six. Tyler Perry is just always on fire, 97 million. Lionel Messi, I didn't know who that was. I had to Google him, 104 million. He's another soccer player. Number four soccer, Cristiano Ronaldo, 105. Did I say it okay? Cubby (00:23:23):Yeah, you nailed it. Leslie (00:23:24):105 million. Roger Federer, Barnes, 106.3 million. Barnes (00:23:29):Still? Leslie (00:23:30):Ain't that crazy? Barnes (00:23:31):Wow. Leslie (00:23:32):Kanye West, 170 million at number two. Barnes (00:23:36):Dang. Leslie (00:23:36):Any guesses as to the number one overall celebrity? Barnes (00:23:39):Cubby? Cubby (00:23:41):I'm going to go ... Barnes (00:23:42):Number one? Cubby (00:23:43):I mean, Justin Bieber? Leslie (00:23:45):That's a good guess. Barnes (00:23:48):Kim Kardashian. Cubby (00:23:49):Kim Kardashian. Leslie (00:23:50):No, it's in the family though. Barnes (00:23:52):Kylie? Leslie (00:23:53):Yeah. Cubby (00:23:54):Kylie. Leslie (00:23:54):Kylie Jenner, 590 million because she has that cosmetic line. Barnes (00:23:59):How does Kim handle that? She's not longer the queen. There is some new music going to run through. I was so impressed to hear ... Have you guys heard ... I'll play it and you'll know instantly who it is. And then of course, I'll tell you who it is. Have you heard this yet? (music) It's The New Bush. It's 1998 again, baby. Cubby (00:24:20):It sounds good. Gavin would be a great guest [crosstalk 00:24:23] Leslie (00:24:23):I love Gavin Rossdale. Barnes (00:24:24):I texted him this week. I haven't heard back from him, but I hope to get him on. Cubby (00:24:27):There's the name drop. We got one. Barnes (00:24:29):You just said you'd like to have him on. He was a- Cubby (00:24:31):I know, but just the way you said it, so nonchalantly, "Yeah, I texted him." Leslie (00:24:35):Very sad with what happened with he and Gwen, but back in the day, he and Barnes did hang out a lot. Seriously. Barnes (00:24:44):All the time. Cubby (00:24:44):No, I think you're ... I'll give you that. I do remember that. Barnes (00:24:44):We used to play tennis and all kinds of crazy stuff. So that's The New Bush. The album Front To Back is great. Check it out on whatever your streamer is. This is new from Sheryl Crow. (music) Cubby (00:25:09):She's always been nice. I know we've all met her a million times, right? Barnes (00:25:11):She's awesome. Leslie (00:25:12):She lives in Nashville. Barnes (00:25:14):Can you text her, Leslie? Leslie (00:25:16):She's awesome. Cubby (00:25:16):You can text her? Leslie (00:25:17):Her barn is nicer than most people's houses. Cubby (00:25:20):Please text her. Barnes (00:25:20):I like Sheryl. Tell her we miss her. I'm sure you've all listened to the new 6ix9ine, Punani. (music) Now here come a lot of beeps. (music) [crosstalk 00:25:48] and so on and so forth. Leslie, you know what Punani is? Leslie (00:25:55):I don't. Barnes (00:25:57):Oh, boy. Cubby (00:25:58):You're kidding. Leslie (00:25:59):No. What is it? Cubby (00:26:00):It's like a [inaudible 00:26:01]. Leslie (00:26:01):It is? Barnes (00:26:02):It's not like a [inaudible 00:26:04]. It's a little ... Cubby (00:26:06):It's in that area. Leslie (00:26:07):Don't ask me to Google it, I'm not going to. Barnes (00:26:09):Leslie, what is punani? Leslie (00:26:11):I don't know. Barnes (00:26:13):P-U-N-A-N-I, look it up. Learning with Leslie, that's what the segment will be called. Leslie (00:26:22):Don't make me do this. Barnes (00:26:23):Punani, you've got to get hip to your pop culture. Cubby (00:26:27):This is the Pop Culture Show. Barnes (00:26:29):Learning with Leslie. Okay, go ahead. P-U-N-A-N-I. Leslie (00:26:33):It means beautiful flower. Barnes (00:26:35):Okay, keep going. What is it [inaudible 00:26:41]? What's a punani? Leslie (00:26:45):Hawaiian slang for vagina. Barnes (00:26:50):There you go. Leslie, you learned something today. The next time you hear punani ... Leslie (00:26:54):I learn every week on the Pop Culture Show. Barnes (00:26:57):So now listen to this song with a whole new ears. (music) Cubby (00:27:06):And we found our Pop Quiz question for next week. Barnes (00:27:12):All right, three more. I didn't know that this guy was still making music. This is another ... Can you tell who this is? Listen. (music) This is new. Cubby (00:27:28):I will tell you I like it. I love that house sound. Barnes (00:27:31):Billy Ocean. Cubby (00:27:33):Billy Ocean? Get the hell out. I love it. He's '70s, right? Barnes (00:27:35):It's called One World. His voice is so perfect. Leslie (00:27:38):I like Billy Ocean. Barnes (00:27:40):Two more. Aloe Blacc. (music) He's got a great voice, too. Leslie (00:28:01):He does. Barnes (00:28:01):Very distinctive. And last one, Phineas has a new song. We all know who Phineas's sister is, don't we? Leslie (00:28:07):Mm-hmm (affirmative), mm-hmm (affirmative). Billy Eilish's brother. Barnes (00:28:10):Yeah, Billy Eilish. I'm just making sure. (music) It's very sad. Who does he sound like? Sounds like almost ... Cubby (00:28:41):I was just thinking that. Like Coldplay for me. Barnes (00:28:41):Like a David Gray kind of thing. Yeah, like Coldplay. All new this week. Cubby (00:28:46):Barnes, Leslie, one of you have to have a Peloton. You strike me as Peloton people. I know for sure. Leslie (00:28:53):No, I have a rebounder. Cubby (00:28:55):What's a rebounder? Leslie (00:28:56):It's like a small trampoline. Barnes (00:28:58):Dude, she has it in her living room. Leslie (00:28:59):Yeah. I do 200 jumping jacks. Barnes (00:29:03):At random moments, they come over and do jumping jacks on a trampoline in their living room. I'm not kidding. Cubby (00:29:09):Well, God bless you. That's more exercise than what I'm getting. Barnes (00:29:11):I was editing last time I was there and all the sudden Lanie came out of nowhere and started flying in the sky like he's part of Cirque du Soleil. I'm like, "What's happening? What is this?" Leslie (00:29:23):But I have thought about the Peloton. Cubby (00:29:25):I've got great news because I've been thinking of a Peloton, too. It's been a little bit out of my budget. They are preparing to launch a cheaper treadmill and a new high end bike and they're going to cut the price of their existing bike. This new treadmill called Tread is going to cost less than $3,000 compared to $4,295 the current model. It'll be smaller and have a cheaper belt design like most other treadmills on the market versus the current models, slat design. The new stationary bike will be a premium offering called Bike Plus, and it will likely cost more than the current $2,245 version. Peloton will then drop the price of the existing machine to less than $1,900. That's the rumor mill. But shares have been falling. Leslie (00:30:14):That's really smart on their part. Barnes (00:30:16):That's a cult. It's almost like SoulCycle. Those people are into it no matter what you say. Leslie (00:30:21):Now, have you seen The Mirror? Barnes (00:30:23):I see the ad. Cubby (00:30:24):I've seen commercials for it. Leslie (00:30:26):It's pretty expensive, too. I think it's around five grand. It's expensive. Barnes (00:30:28):Is that a fake person or is it a real person? Leslie (00:30:35):I'm not sure. The designer, you mean? I'm not sure but ... Barnes (00:30:35):Can you like order like, "I want a blonde, 40 ..." Leslie (00:30:39):Your custom trainer. Barnes's custom trainer. Barnes (00:30:42):Can you build your virtual trainer or is it just a person that ... Leslie (00:30:44):That would be brilliant but... Barnes (00:30:46):... that pops on? I don't know. Cubby (00:30:48):Again, I'm happy about this because I've been on the border, I've been on the fence here and I think if it goes under $3,000. Leslie (00:30:55):He says that as he's tucking his shirt in. Cubby (00:30:57):I know because I'm feeling so fat guys. I really am feeling fat. Barnes (00:31:00):Put them in a category with Netflix. The pandemic has been very, very good to them. Cubby (00:31:03):Yeah, it really has. Barnes (00:31:08):Our next guest is the director of, as I put it last week, every show on TV, I think. Leslie (00:31:14):Pretty much. Barnes (00:31:15):Shark Tank, The Bachelor, Bachelorette, Family Feud, To Tell the Truth. Help me, Ken. Ken Fuchs (00:31:21):Celebrity Family Feud. Barnes (00:31:23):Celebrity Family Feud. Ken Fuchs (00:31:25):Misery Index. Barnes (00:31:25):See, I'm not kidding. Ken Fuchs, welcome to the show, sir. Ken Fuchs (00:31:28):Thank you. Thanks for having me. Leslie (00:31:30):Ken, how did you get started? I mean, this is pretty incredible resume. How does one get started as a director and now you have this incredible resume? Ken Fuchs (00:31:38):Well, that's a good question. I think if you ask 10 directors, you get 10 different answers. My path was a little circuitous. I started in production right out of college and I worked my way up in the production ranks, which gave me a really solid footing in how things are done and actually, I think made me a better director. Then somewhere along the line of being a production manager or line producer, I started AD-ing, assistant directing and then that led to directing. So I sort of moved up one ladder, jumped sideways into the more of the directing track and then got my break on a late night NBC talk show called Later with Greg Kinnear, which was a 1:30 AM talk show. Bob Costas used to host and then Greg took over, and I was the AD on that for many years and then started directing that. Barnes (00:32:35):Well, what was the first big show? When I say big, prime time. How did that jump happen? Because that's a big you know, 1:30 in the morning AM, on a network is of course, it's a big break, but the shows you're doing now are iconic. Ken Fuchs (00:32:53):I don't know exactly. I think I came around ... My career kind of coincided with the advent of ... Well, there was always variety television and non-scripted television. So I had the late night gig and that led to a daytime talk show with Roseanne. The ill-fated Roseanne talk show. Barnes (00:33:13):That did very well though, didn't it? Ken Fuchs (00:33:18):Not particularly. Barnes (00:33:19):No? I thought it did well. Ken Fuchs (00:33:20):It ran for two years and it didn't do good. Barnes (00:33:22):Oh, Roseanne. I'm thinking of Rosie. Ken Fuchs (00:33:26):No, no, no. Not Rosie. Roseanne. Barnes (00:33:29):I can see that. That had to be problematic. Ken Fuchs (00:33:32):It was incredibly complicated every day. Barnes (00:33:37):Did she used to yell at people? Ken Fuchs (00:33:38):Yeah. She'd yell at you and she'd love you and she'd hug you and she'd ... She was unbelievable. It was everything you would think it would be. I look back on it fondly and she was actually ... We actually were very close. But it was very difficult and just chaotic. It was just a lot of chaos in her life and in her brain. But super talented. She would have the interview once a week and she would say things and ask questions that nobody else would ask. So I think she was actually brilliant and creative and talented in a certain way. And then sort of challenged in another way. Cubby (00:34:21):Well, Ken, now you got me wondering. I know you don't work with Ellen DeGeneres but she's been ... You hear people say she's difficult. Do you know anybody at that camp that [crosstalk 00:34:31] Ken Fuchs (00:34:31):Hundred and hundreds of people have been through that camp. Barnes (00:34:34):Is this a sensitive topic? Ken Fuchs (00:34:35):Not for me. Not for me, no. I have no problem ... I don't know the woman, I only did ... I actually did the pilot for that talk show. It wasn't an airing pilot so they call it a presentation. But because I was working with Telepictures on Bachelor, they brought Ellen into the stage where we were shooting a Bachelor show and did a quickie sort of talk show, a couple segments to see if it worked. Barnes (00:35:01):Like a mock up? Ken Fuchs (00:35:02):Yeah, mockup. Mm-hmm (affirmative), exactly. Barnes (00:35:05):And you're saying what? That she was difficult then? Ken Fuchs (00:35:08):I don't know it was difficult, but I certainly didn't feel that warm and fuzzy feeling at the end of it. So I can't personally pass judgment on her. But I know over the 17 years of that talk show, the stories coming out of there have been pretty consistent and not very flattering. Barnes (00:35:27):So these stories aren't new. These have been going on for years. We're just not hearing ... I mean, this is the first we're hearing of them? Ken Fuchs (00:35:32):Yeah, of course. Barnes (00:35:33):Wow. Leslie (00:35:34):That's amazing. Barnes (00:35:35):Well, all eyes are going to be on her next week when that show comes back because she's going to have ... Do you think she's going to give like a speech or something when she comes out? Ken Fuchs (00:35:41):I mean, I guess so. I mean, she has to do some kind of damage control. I think I read something recently where she's offering something to the staff and crew in terms of ... I can't remember what I read, but definitely there's stuff going on there. Cubby (00:35:57):She have to pull an Oprah, "You get a car, you get a car," to everybody in the audience. Barnes (00:36:01):That's something. Ken Fuchs (00:36:01):Maybe. And maybe she didn't know everything that was going on. I know those executive producers a little bit. And I know a lot of the stories revolve around the atmosphere on the show and not necessarily Ellen per se and exactly personally. You never know on any show, really, what the disconnect is between production and the talent. Leslie (00:36:24):Ken, now the audition process is happening for a lot of these shows. I mean, obviously, you're looking for larger than life personalities. What sort of things are you guys looking for? Because it's got to make for great TV. Ken Fuchs (00:36:39):I think it's hard to pinpoint and that's why it's hard to know what will work. I'm not involved on the executive level or the corporate level in terms of deciding who they back for a show and who they don't. But I've done a handful and I've done some that I thought would be very successful with really talented lovely people. I did the Megan Mullaly daytime talk show for NBC and it was an incredible experience, but it didn't quite catch on and for whatever reason didn't go forward. I've done great shows that don't go move forward. And then I've done other shows that like The Bachelor that have lasted 20 years and ... I don't know if there's any explaining it really. Barnes (00:37:27):Well, any show you watch, if you pay attention, you're going to see at the end, "Directed by Ken Fuchs." Ken Fuchs (00:37:32):Let's hope. Barnes (00:37:32):Let's hope. It's funny to hear you go, "I need to pick up another show." Like, "Dude, you have Shark Tank, Bachelor, Bachelorette." Ken Fuchs (00:37:41):But you know this business, Steve, if you're not moving forward, you're moving backwards. Barnes (00:37:44):Well, you're pretty forward. Ken Fuchs (00:37:45):I'm pretty lucky. Let's put it that way. I have two shows for 20 years and one for 12. That's almost unheard of. And I thank my lucky stars every day, but all three could get canceled tomorrow. So you always want to be meeting new people and challenging yourself to expand your career. Cubby (00:38:06):Ken, I love the behind the scenes stuff. So one of the things I heard early on, I think, Barnes, you told me first. Is it true they do, like the Rose Ceremony taping, usually by that time, it's 5:00 AM because they've been drinking and hanging out and that's why sometimes everybody's a hot mess? Is that true, the Rose Ceremony is always early morning, practically? Ken Fuchs (00:38:24):It's a long night. Bachelor is a long process and it's a long night. So the first night they're meeting 25 to 30 people. So that's just incredibly long process anyway. Barnes (00:38:40):And there's a bartender, Cubby. Full on ... Cubby (00:38:43):Anything you want, right? Barnes (00:38:45):It's a huge bar. Ken Fuchs (00:38:46):Not me, not me. Barnes (00:38:47):No, yeah. But the bar is huge. Ken Fuchs (00:38:48):Well, the bar and that whole situation has also been toned down over the years because it was a little bit much. But each Rose Ceremony, as the season progresses, there's fewer cast members, the nights get shorter and shorter. The first night's really very long. Barnes (00:39:07):How did the people keep track? So when you're talking about these 20 ... The first night, there's all these people. How are people keeping up with these side storylines and with all the things that are going on in that house? Ken Fuchs (00:39:20):The producers, you mean? Barnes (00:39:22):So is there a producer for each person? Ken Fuchs (00:39:24):Not quite, but there's a lot of producers and there's story people and, you just kind of like any other reality show, you're behind the scenes, you're monitoring and keeping track of conversations and what's going in which direction and who she's talked to and who she hasn't and who needs time and who's going to get time. Somebody will get into a situation where they're sitting down for one-on-one with her and some guys might meet her with three of them at once. I think over the course of the first night, we try to give each guy or each gal a chance to have at least a few moments with them. Barnes (00:40:03):Cubby, Leslie, as you go into that house, which is actually someone's house, The Bachelor Mansion, how long does the guy live there? A couple years? Ken Fuchs (00:40:12):No, it's been there a while. Barnes (00:40:13):So you go in, if you ... Ken Fuchs (00:40:15):Well, we've been there eight years. Barnes (00:40:16):Yeah, a long time. You go in the garage and they've transformed this guy's garage into literally a control room. So there are cameras, I mean, there are screens all over the wall, there are people watching every little move. Then you go into ... What room has the producer, a room with all these producers who are watching individual feeds and crafting storylines? Or they ... Ken Fuchs (00:40:38):Exactly. There's chances for everybody to watch everything and you can kind of call up what you want to see or what you want to hear. Barnes (00:40:45):It's amazing. Ken Fuchs (00:40:46):Yeah. It's like if you were in a television studio, you'd have a control room or a truck. So when you're on location, you have to build out that infrastructure and that technology, which is a massive undertaking. Our team is incredible. Barnes (00:41:02):Have you guys ever busted anyone having sex? Ken Fuchs (00:41:06):No. Barnes (00:41:06):I'm surprised with all the liquor that's flowing and just the people trying to make a statement whether it's a guy or a girl. Ken Fuchs (00:41:11):No. There's not really that much opportunity for them to be alone off camera ... Barnes (00:41:17):I mean, they know the cameras are there but they're like, "Screw it. I'm going to go for it." Ken Fuchs (00:41:21):Now you're getting more into the Bachelor in Paradise world. Barnes (00:41:24):We can shift to that. Ken Fuchs (00:41:25):Well, I don't do that show so I can't speak on Bachelor in Paradise specifically but I think the rules on Bachelor in Paradise are different than the rules on Bachelor. The rules on Bachelor have always been try to keep things ... We don't want to have that happen early on because it just takes a ... Barnes (00:41:45):Well, fantasy suite is a fantasy suite ... Ken Fuchs (00:41:46):Fantasy suite is in Episode Nine when they're down to three. So until they're down to three ... Barnes (00:41:53):Keep it in your pants. Ken Fuchs (00:41:54):Yeah. Barnes (00:41:56):Until they're down to three and then it's all game on. Ken Fuchs (00:41:58):Then it's all good, yeah. Leslie (00:42:00):Ken, one of the shows you work on that I am obsessed with and literally can binge all day is Shark Tank. Do the sharks know in advance who they're about to meet? Ken Fuchs (00:42:12):So here's a very interesting thing about Shark Tank. And it's really fascinating because when you think about producing, if you were producing a show, you would want your talent to have as much research and information about what they're about to see and hear so they'll be prepared to make good television or radio. In this case, the producers were right on about this. It's exactly the opposite. They literally do not and cannot know anything about the companies or the products or the businesses because, A, it would give them an unfair advantage. But B, you'd lose the whole process of discovery and that discovery ... Ken Fuchs (00:42:50):So when you walk out on that rug and you say, "I have a scissor that cuts through anything." whatever it is, then go in, they start from ground zero. Who are you? Where are you from? What's your backstory? How did you get here? Why did you get here? What are you going to do with the money? What's your long range strategy? How do you scale ... All those questions, if they had any of those answers, they wouldn't ask those questions and that discovery process is what's so interesting to you and me as the viewer is these really brilliant investors asking really thoughtful and deep and important and meaningful questions that I either wouldn't have thought to ask or I wouldn't have put together. That discovery process is really the whole show. Barnes (00:43:33):I could watch 15 of those in a row. I mean, honestly, Leslie, it's an hour. When they come in and pitch, right, Ken? It's an hour-ish? Ken Fuchs (00:43:44):It's edited down into there's four per hour. So there's six acts. Two of the businesses get two acts and an act is seven or eight minutes. It's basically a half, it can be as short as a half hour, it could take as long as an hour and a half. But once they hit the rug, they do their 90 second pitch or two minute pitch, and then it's on. It's just Q and A, question and answer. And it sort of needs to go as long as the shark needs to go. We're a little bit at the mercy of the sharks because they're spending their own money. So we could hope that Mark Cuban makes a decision really quickly and decides to spend half a million dollars but it's half a million dollars. And if it takes him an hour to get to that decision, then it takes him an hour. Barnes (00:44:31):It's fascinating to watch. Ken Fuchs (00:44:33):I'll tell you what, what's really interesting to me is the whole process. When that hour is cut down to eight minutes or 15 minutes, it's still great on TV, obviously. It's the best of the best. But sometimes just that long process of watching it all go down in the studio is really fascinating. Barnes (00:44:53):As an entrepreneur, Leslie, sometimes when I'm in LA and they're in production, I will mark off a day on my calendar and I'll go there and I'll sit from 10:00 AM to 6:00 at night and watch the entire thing. Ken, come [crosstalk 00:45:07] Leslie (00:45:07):I totally see that, yeah. Barnes (00:45:08):Ken goes, "Dude, are you bored?" I'm like, "No." I mean, literally, it's like you're watching business deals go down with billionaires and you're a fly on the wall. Leslie (00:45:19):And they all play their roles so well. Especially Mr. Wonderful. Ken Fuchs (00:45:23):Yeah, that's right. Over the years, they've sort of crafted and created their own personas. And Barbara and Robert does his thing and Laurie. But Mr. Wonderful's one of my favorites, too. Cubby (00:45:38):Ken, do they set up a clunker? Like, "All right, we know this is not going to go well. We have to run." Ken Fuchs (00:45:43):Not we really but we shoot ... It was a 22 episodes, we have 88 companies and we'll shoot a few more than that and we prepare them to do well. In other words, we don't want them to come out there and lay an egg and not be ready. So the producers work with them for a while to get them up to speed and what to expect and to do their best. But this certainly turns out to be clunkers. Sometimes they're just, we can't have everyone get a deal, right? That's not the goal and that's not as interesting. But also the sharks they're so smart, they're going to get to something that probably or might be problematic and then they're going to pass. Barnes (00:46:30):I think some people listening might think that you're just covering for the show when you say that they don't know anything. What's fascinating is everything's covered up. So when they change out say, between Cubby pitching and Leslie pitching, the sharks go over and grab M&Ms and do whatever they do, go to the dressing room, whatever, and then they bring out the new stuff. It's all covered. Then the sharks actually have a team sitting 50 feet away on their laptop, who also don't know what's coming. So then Cubby comes out the door and these guys are researching it for the first time. Ken Fuchs (00:47:05):You don't want to have the ... Again, you want the process of discovery. You don't want them knowing, and so we keep the props and the art department on one side of the stage away from the sharks and away from their [crosstalk 00:47:17] people. Barnes (00:47:17):I love that it's authentic. Ken Fuchs (00:47:17):Yeah, it's pretty authentic. Exactly. And look, that's always the word everyone throws around. And it's really the word. It's really, really the critical part of what makes any of these show successful, Bachelor included, which is the authenticity. If you really believe and you feel and you know that this is happening live and in the moment, it's just so much better. Barnes (00:47:41):Do you think you're desensitized to these personalities and these billionaires? I think that it would be weird to be around that many people as your job every day that are that influential and you're seeing this circus of A plus personalities moving around and you're directing them. Ken Fuchs (00:48:04):Yeah, I guess so. Although they're sort of in my backyard. The stage, that's my familiar place and more so than theirs. Now, if I were to go into their companies or their boardrooms, I'd probably be nervous as hell and freak out. But they're in my playing field and they want to do well and they want the show to do well and they want to come off on, they want them to do good deals. So we're there to sort of help them. They're also just lovely, lovely people. We've had great guest sharks, but our six originals are just all, to a man and woman, just lovely, sweet, nice, smart, collaborative people. Barnes (00:48:44):It's intimidating. Cubby, imagine this, one of the times that I was there, we were going to go to lunch. Ken, we're going to walk across the lot, it ends up being at one table. Me, Ken, Richard Branson, and Mark Cuban. Leslie (00:48:59):That's a little intimidating. Barnes (00:49:00):I just sat there and didn't say anything hardly until we started talking about the Caribbean. But it was just weird to see these two billionaires just shooting around. Like, "Yeah, whatever, whatever. Hey, what Caribbean island should we go, " I mean it's just ... Branson, of course, owns a Caribbean island but it was just weird ... Cubby (00:49:19):That they were talking like we would be talking at lunch. Barnes (00:49:21):And then just like it's normal but then we go inside and Ken's like, "Give me the phone. I need to get a picture." You got to picture Branson. That's the first time I've seen you do that, get a selfie. Ken Fuchs (00:49:31):I was a little fanboy of Branson and ARod. I had to get a picture with ARod and send it to all my Red Sox fan friends. Cubby (00:49:39):Ken, how's taping going to be going on with the COVID thing going on? You're going to be in a bubble? Ken Fuchs (00:49:45):We've done a lot of combinations. All the shows have done a really great job. A lot as you know are back in production. Some are more remote, Zoom style and everybody sort of remotely ... Barnes (00:49:57):Who's Zoom? Ken Fuchs (00:49:58):It wasn't the voice ... Barnes (00:50:03):I thought you're saying your shows. Ken Fuchs (00:50:05):No, no, no, no, no. Different shows are doing different things. But basically, the non-scripted world is getting back into production pretty successfully and with super strict protocols. Testing, masks, social distancing, Plexiglas. Barnes (00:50:21):What about Shark Tank? How is that going to work? Ken Fuchs (00:50:21):Shark Tank's back in production. You'll have to see it. I don't want to give away too much. We've tried all the shows. Same with Family Feud, which we're shooting here in Atlanta. We're trying to maintain the basic bones of the show. So when you watch it as a viewer, you'll be able to appreciate it, enjoy it just like any other season. But there are some ramifications and there are some accommodations in terms of social distancing. Barnes (00:50:49):But what about sharks? Can you talk about where it's being shot? It debuts on the 16th. Ken Fuchs (00:50:55):I can't remember whether it's a secret or not, but what production has done is created a bubble. Exactly what you were saying, Cubby. We try to create somewhat of a bubble so that the cast and crew are safely in this together and without so much coming and going and external factors in terms of any elements that might create a COVID situation. Everyone's willing to do it. The crew is all very happy to do it. Everyone's thrilled to be back to work. As difficult as it is with the masks, I'm sure everyone knows, it's worth it to A, stay safe and B, be able to be back at work safely and still making good television. Barnes (00:51:45):Do the Shark contestants come out with a mask on? Ken Fuchs (00:51:50):No, so the unions have done a really thorough job of coming up with recommendations. The IAA and the DGA and SAG-AFTRA have really work together on coming up with their blueprint for what production will look like going forward. The on-camera talent has a mask. Everyone wears a mask as long as possible. But then if you're rolling and you're on camera, you can take off your mask. Then the hair makeup and wardrobe people, anyone working, there are sort of zones, so that zone closest to the talent, they call them different things on different shows, but those people are most heavily protected. Protected for their sake and also for the artists, for the talent's sake. Then people more behind the scenes like myself are in another zone. We have different protocols. But it's all the same stuff. Wiping down everything thoroughly, constantly. So things are taking a little slower, taking a little longer, and that's okay, because we all want to be safe. Leslie (00:52:54):Ken, I have to ask this question. I mean, you're a mega director of all these television shows. What are do you doing in Barnes's basement? Ken Fuchs (00:53:04):I ask myself that very same question all the time. Barnes (00:53:08):Because we have good steak. Ken Fuchs (00:53:09):The other day I went and I was like, "I'm getting a little depressed." Although it's really, I'm pretty happy to be here. And then I went open up my shade and I was staring at the ground and I realized, "I'm in a bunker and it's a bunker mentality." And you know what? It's that mentality that gets us through production. Everybody's in it together. We're all just keeping our head down and working hard and not focusing on how things are different than they used to be. But no, I really appreciate Steve's offer because it's really beautiful. Barnes (00:53:41):Stay calm. We feed him steaks, we take him to the local eateries. Ken Fuchs (00:53:45):It's not bad. Barnes (00:53:45):Laundry. Ken Fuchs (00:53:46):It's not bad. Barnes (00:53:47):Well, let's talk about your house in Calabasas, California. You have some very interesting neighbors like Kim and Kanye. Ken Fuchs (00:53:57):Hidden Hills has kind of blown up. When I first moved Calabasas, Hidden Hills was a little sleepy little town and then with the reality shows and ... Who was it? Jessica Simpson and ... Barnes (00:54:10):Do they live in Hidden Hills? Ken Fuchs (00:54:11):No, they lived in my old neighborhood in Calabasas. So that started the craze of reality shooting and Hollywood. And then rich people became very aware of who was out there. I lived on the same street as the Jenners in my old house. My boys grew up with Kendall and Kylie, and roughly the same age. They moved eventually. Kris moved to Hidden Hills and the kids moved to Hidden Hills and I moved to Hidden Hills. It's just a whole thing now out there. Barnes (00:54:45):Your house was ... Who was it? Nick Carter? Ken Fuchs (00:54:46):Yeah, my house was Nick Carter [crosstalk 00:54:48] Barnes (00:54:48):Nick Carter's house. Ken Fuchs (00:54:49):Yeah. When he took the gold records off the wall, there's still the mark on the wall from ... Barnes (00:54:57):Trick or treating in your hood must be insane. You got The Weekend, you got Kim and Kanye. Who else? Cubby (00:55:03):I don't know. You don't recognize them because they're wearing an outfit. Ken Fuchs (00:55:06):Yeah. I'm not sure they're doing the whole ... I'm not sure they do the whole trick or treat thing. Drake's in there. And there's a lot of old school Hollywood. It was kind of a enclave of writers and composers. It's a little far out of town so it's not people who really want to have 9:00 to 5:00 necessarily but a lot of creative types out there. Barnes (00:55:31):There's a little van, Cubby, Leslie, sitting down in front of Kim and Kanye's. I guess that's their security or just some dude just sitting in there? Ken Fuchs (00:55:37):I'm sure the security. Barnes (00:55:39):Which is in a secured gated thing and then you got the little dude in the van. Ken Fuchs (00:55:44):I haven't tempted fate but ... Cubby (00:55:46):Little dude in the van. I'll give you a podcast right there. Barnes (00:55:49):Hey, the next week on Little Dude in The Van. The reason he's here is because of Family Feud. It got moved back here ... It was here for many years and went to LA. Then why did it come back? Ken Fuchs (00:56:00):When Steve Harvey took over, we came out here. That was 10 years ago. We did seven years here in Atlanta. And then Steve got very busy in LA with his talk show and Little Big Shot so we just decided to do Feud back in LA because he was already in LA most of the time. And now he's back mostly in Atlanta so we're back in Atlanta. We were in LA for three years and now we're back here. Steve's just, I mean ... Barnes (00:56:27):He's insanely funny. Cubby (00:56:28):I've met him a couple of times. Such a nice guy, too. Ken Fuchs (00:56:31):It's such a perfect blend of talent and format. Barnes (00:56:34):But the thing is, Family Feud sucks. Hold on, let me finish my sentence. Leslie (00:56:38):Wait a minute. Barnes (00:56:39):Sucks compared to when he's off on a break of Family Feud. If you could capture the commercial breaks, the dude is on all the time. Leslie (00:56:51):I can see that, yeah. Ken Fuchs (00:56:52):He's unbelievable. I'm like, "Steve, why don't you take a break?" Some hosts go in the back and take a break or ... Barnes (00:56:59):He's on it like he's doing a stand up gig. Ken Fuchs (00:57:02):He feels really committed to an audience that's come and to see him. It's really like going to a live stand up special every day. Barnes (00:57:11):So what now? Now he doesn't have a full audience. Ken Fuchs (00:57:12):Well, it's interesting. Now, I thought it would really suffer and I didn't know how he would handle it. For some hosts and for some comics, that would be deadly not to have the two or 300 people out there. But he's amazing. I think his experience and his ... He's just such a hard worker. He's really giving it his all and he's doing great. The shows are as funny as before. The audience is really just a handful of family members that aren't playing that game and somehow he brings it to life and he's doing his best job ever. Because when you watch it on TV, we'll sweeten it, you won't ever know that it's not a full audience. Barnes (00:57:54):You know how he does that stare, Cubby and Leslie? Cubby (00:57:57):Like he knows what we're all thinking? Barnes (00:58:01):He does a lot with his eyes. Cubby (00:58:02):Right, right. Leslie (00:58:03):His expressions are priceless. Cubby (00:58:04):It's great. Barnes (00:58:05):Watching him tape one time, somebody gave him a wrong answer. And so a production person or something walked up and gave him a card and the card said the wrong thing, right? So they start taping, he goes, "Survey said ..." They do it and it was the wrong thing. He immediately started making fun of himself when M

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Everyone, Sheevaun here. I want to talk about something that I'm seeing a lot in our community and the folks that we're helping. We're an elevated community for folks who are looking to provide a solution out into humanity and really do good work in the world. And I help businesses grow and thrive and expand and make sure that they're on the right track and that they're physically, mentally, emotionally, spiritually, relationally, financially, on the right track. The interesting thing that I've been noticing during this time is this thing around fear and that fear energy. I'm looking at my notes over here because I wanna make sure to be really mindful of the current climate of fear and how to talk about that. So if you watch the news a whole lot, they just put this on Sunday, CBS Sunday morning. Kind of cool that they put this on CBS Sunday morning. Because we've known, in the work that I do that this, this body of science exists. They said that, thoughts are contagious. News is contagious. Thoughts are contagious, meaning a thought that is negative and icky and problematic and or positive, et cetera. They're all contagious. It's easier to pick up the negative thoughts because we're used to playing in the drama. So the really interesting thing about all of this work is that with fear, fear of life, fear of where we're living, fear of our livelihood, fear of what is unknown, you know, pretty well. Almost all the fears are really coming up and it really forces us to have to look at our inner world and what is happening in our inner world. You know, there's a cut the cord video, we'll put that in the in the description below, "cut the cord", meaning you're gonna disconnect that energy between you and all of that fear. At least it will give you a time to breathe.  You can really get out there and do your work and really be much more clear-headed. You may have to cut the cord a thousand times to really get that shifted. So the fear energy that's out there and that is cycling and circulating, it's driven by the news, but it's mainly driven by our own insecurities and, and not feeling safe enough. The thing that's most important is if you can look and acknowledge that within yourself, you have made it this far in your life and that you're better at making it than you give yourself permission. If you can tap into that again and again and again, what you're going to discover is you're going to discover that, oh, I have kind of made it through a lot of stuff. It isn't going to be the end of the world as we know it.  It is going to be changed and hopefully we are part of the solution and part of the best part of change that there is. So, cut the cords around fear of you're feeling, fear of your being around people. A lot of people in your family who are talking about fear just cut the chords a whole lot and really, give yourself an isolated kind of, we'll call it the cone of silence. I don't know if you remember that from a long time ago, but the cone of silence would be the cone of silence of fear, and look at things that are positive, that you know, nature's great and things, you know, find a book that really uplifts you and continue to revisit and revisit and revisit that. This whole channel is about getting you out of the frame of where you were and getting you into a solution. We just happened to be in more magnified times. My name is Sheevaun Moran. You can subscribe, I would be grateful if you did that. Share if you feel that this is a value, and find me at sheevaunmoran.com. See you soon and keep the faith and the hope and the joy and realize that you're safer, you're more loved, and you're more appreciated than ever, and you have more available for you than you have any idea; step into that. Big hugs.   CONNECT WITH ME: Full site http://bit.ly/cpENJY Twitter http://www.twitter.com/Sheevaun Facebook http://bit.ly/2hCAlPT LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/sheevaunm... Blog site http://bit.ly/2fn67jh Subscribe to my channel! http://youtube.com/EnergeticSolutions

Have you ever dreamed of living in an actual utopia? Sound too good to be true?  Turns out it’s closer than you think! Serenbe is the world renowned pioneering self sustaining community about 40 minutes south of Atlanta. Recognized by Time Magazine, The New York Times, Oprah and more, Serenbe boasts edible trees, a professional farm, a focus on art, education, and a lifestyle steeped in wellness. Today, I got to speak to the sought after CEO and founder Steve Nygren.  One thing that stood out is the amount of a-ha moments of what we can do in our own homes that can instantly improve our health, mental wellness, prevent cancer, and promote happiness. For instance, in the Serenbe community, there are about 100 kids that live there and not one of them has asthma. You’ve got to hear this interview! Steve is clearly a person who is committed to the purpose of marrying old fashioned values and community without sacrificing modern back lolcity life. And inspiring other people to elevate the importance of nature in our own communities.  And it got me thinking about the people that I love that struggle with their health, struggle with depression, struggle with a lack of motivation - and it made me wonder if all of it is connected to our environment. I mean what if we used ourselves as Guinea pigs and made some simple changes - or even big changes - and it improved our overall conditions? What if it improved the quality of life for aging parents?  What if it reversed  medical conditions? What if it could help the earth? Serenbe | Instagram | Serenbe Real Estate | Serenbe Events Little Left of Center is also broadcasting on DecaturFM and Salesforce Radio. If you haven’t hit subscribe yet, please make sure you do so you never miss an episode of these perspective-shifting conversations. Leave a review. SHARE it with your friends and enemies.  Connect with me on the socials at Instagram, LinkedIn,  Facebook or good old fashioned email.Thank you so much for listening and I’ll see you next week!   Transcript: All right. So we are here today with Steve Nygren. He is the CEO and founder of the Serenbe community. And I'm sure I'm going to butcher this, but it is a, a really inventive, self-sustaining Agora, Agora, Agora hood, agrihood, and it is amazing about 40 minutes South of Atlanta. And so I'm so thankful for you to sitting down with me. So my podcast is called little left of center and I interview culture changers and I couldn't think of anyone better than you. As far as culture changing, you really have started a movement, so I'd love to hear a little bit more about it. How did this idea come to you? Well, first of all, welcome to Sarah. Thank you. Interested in what we're doing here. Thank you. Thank you. Well, this is, is Really a reaction to urban sprawl and what we didn't want to have in the 70s, 80s, 90s. I am the hospitality guy in Atlanta and in other cities. Yeah, that's right. And we, we brought fine dining in a casual atmosphere to Atlanta in the 70s. And, and it was a movement that was happening in America and we really were the leaders in the Southeast on this. And so I built that to a company that was in eight States and then had an opportunity to sell it and stepped off the treadmill. We lived in Ansley park at the time and a full community in downtown Atlanta. Yes. And, and where we could walk two blocks, one way to symphony hall high museum and all the restaurants along Peachtree and the other side we could walk to Piedmont park, the botanical gardens. So it was the ideal place. In fact, we'd planted gardens for our small children to be married in one day. And so we, we weren't looking for any lifestyle changes but we bought this farm on a a weekend drive out of a whim really. And I decided it was a good investment cause it was so close to Atlanta and there was this beautiful countryside cheap as is all get out or was I considering, yes, because there were no real roads here. So this wasn't on the way to anywhere. And most of metropolitan Atlanta was not aware of this beautiful rolling countryside that had been forgotten in, in the urban sprawl. Everything went North and then West and East and even South East, but not West because there were no roads to anything really major here. And so this was just sort of a whim. We rented the old historic farmhouse out and fixed a shack in the back in case we ever wanted to spend the night. You know, I, I imagine getting, you know, a, a horse and a couple of things for the kids and we'd just come out and it'd be fun. Was it a second home? It was a second home in 90 when we purchased it. And to my amazement, everyone was anxious to leave that wonderful city house with the pool on the media room and matching Barbie cars for all the three girls, you know, battery operated. You know, we, we, we, we, we thought we had the ideal world. And so it was my surprise that everyone wanted to come here to the country where we stayed in the shack. And connected to nature. And so doing that for three years was my value shift. And so I had an opportunity to sell the company, sold the big house, retired from most of the boards. And we had a wonderful seven years in retirement, but in that seventh year we became concerned about urban sprawl because Atlanta was running out of available land this close to the city and there was some development threats. And I started buying land and at 900 acres I realized I couldn't keep buying land to protect us. And 900 acres in the path of urban sprawl really doesn't protect you from anything. Anyone who's been in Metro Atlanta for the last several years understands how fast that train couldn't couldn't come. And so this was really a reaction as to what could we do first thinking about how can we be a model to do it differently. And then bringing 500 landowners to actually regulate the zoning on 40,000 acres. How did you find 5,000, 5,000 landowners? 500, 500 that owned 40,000 acres. So this was the Southern tip of Fulton County that was not zoned. And so it was still agriculturally zone, but that's what happens in metropolitan Atlanta. And so today we have what's called the Chattahoochee Hill country Alliance and that 65,000 acres in four counties here rewriting the corner of Fulton County to Carolyn Douglas. And this is a green space and, and a path with 30 miles of the Chattahoochee run Chattahoochee river running down through it. And we are the first to develop under these regulations. We now 40,000 of it in the two counties. We're allowed to become our own city of chat Hills. We're in, in, in I think the fifth geographic largest city in the state. But our population is in the bottom 2%, I think. So that, you know, even know where to start developing. Like how did you, well, I was, you know, and as I look back of course my first restaurant was in Midtown in the 70s when that was trash. And then in the early eighties, I became head of the Midtown Alliance. And then thanks to the Woodruff foundation and we brought in Tony Nielsen out of Boston and really looked at the rezoning for metropolitan Atlanta or Midtown Atlanta. And so you look at what's happened to Midtown today from the zoning that was put into the place in, in, in the late eighties. So, so that's why it's one of the largest zoning plans in Metro Atlanta. So I realized that that was really my training ground when I saw what was in front of me to bring these landowners together of diverse pro development, pro preservation. It was very similar to what we did in a very urban area of Midtown Atlanta. And so that was my, in my a roadmap. Did you find any resistance at that point or was it such a green space that you were able to kind of do what you want? Well, the important things to understand is I didn't come with a plan that I asked them to either like, or not like a, we came in and said, okay, what, what do we want the future to be like? So this started with neighborhood coffees of both small and large, large landowners. We divided people into groups of, of equal a similar sized property. And it's a wonderful journey on how you can bring a coalition to people that normally are fighting and all these zoning battles that you hear about. Of course we started with skepticism. What's this going to be about? But we were able to turn the majority of the landowners by the time we took this forward, 80% were paying dues into the organization to move this forward from, from all extremes. And we've come up with a plan where the pro-development, which has really economic value realize they can make more money than they would have. And the preservationist realized we're going to preserve 70% of this land and yet we'll put 20% more housing in the 30% by creating a dense model. The countryside of England was our model because after world war II, they couldn't afford urban sprawl. The Island was only so big. And so that was our, our, our real model now. It was quite a trick bringing English land law to a property rights Southern state. But we work with all of this. We worked with university of Georgia, Texas a and M, Georgia tech. And so this was really an academic process. Most of the people were in the professional planning thought we were nuts and this didn't make sense. But you really look at what we created here. It's, it's how we developed 80 years ago or more, you know, it was dense villages before the automobile allowed us to, to sprawl everywhere. And so this is why what you see is very European or very reminiscent of how people 50 grew up. Chances are, it's funny when you talk about, you know, you hear about food being organic and it used to be just food and now everything is processed. But here, isn't it something like 70% of the plants or trees are edible, but that's, I think you're referring to our common area. So in Grange for instance rather than a lot of ornamentals we have 70% is all edible landscaping. So at every crosswalk there's a blueberry bushes. There's banks of figs. The kids all know that when the service berries come out, that that's the beginning of the spring season and there's excitement. The is, is the, the bud start coming on the blueberry bushes and then the Apple trees and, and it's a natural understanding of the seasonality of our foods. And of course, we, we bring the farms right up to the houses. You mentioned Agri-hood. Well, we were really an agri-hood is, well, we were the, I'm not sure what I think about that name, but it actually Sprong from a New York times reporter doing a story on Serenbe and the fact that we were included farms while a couple of developments had had farms in a master plan such as Prairie crossing outside Chicago. It was off in the corner. And we were really the first to bring it right up to the edge of the houses. There was a perception that farms were smelly and dirty and not something you wanted to live next to. And so we really led that effort. And now farms are seen as the future. Amenity as golf courses were back in the eighties and nineties. Yeah. That's the thing that there's no golf course here. People move here because of the living cause of the wellness because of the food being sourced here because of the farming that sourced here. That's right. I want to hear more about, about what, what have you seen, I mean, you've been on this property for 20 years now, 32, three years. Wow. And Serenbe hasn't been created that long, but that's how long we have here. But the people that live on this property that are residents, what kind of health benefits have they seen from choosing to live on a self sustaining pioneering community like Serenbe? Well, we're reaching this year is our 15th year anniversary of people actually moving here into the community. And we started as a community really looking at the environmental aspects. So this is why we do not allow lawns because to have a beautiful lawn, you have to chemicalize it. And I realized that was not an environmental thing. And so you know, the way we've saved the tree, 70% saved. So these all started out as environmental principles and now that 15 years later, it's all the health benefits come from the same thing. So environment and health are very tied together. So over a hundred children here, no asthma the people have reported to me, they've gotten rid of their antidepressants. And now there's real medical proof that connection to nature does affect your mental attitude and connecting to one another. And I don't know if you notice people are waving in one another, that they're smiling, that you, you can fill fashion in such a really beautiful way. That's right. And, and it's some of that old fashioned connection to nature and connection to each other. That does affect our mental health and our mental health. Now. Its documented affects our physical health and some of the main diseases. And yet we had been building places over the last five decades that remove us from both nature and each other. So that's so this is, is really basically how the built environment is causing some of our health problems that we have today. We have a lot of regulations so that people can park near their back door near the stores or whatever they're going to. We're obsessed with the convenience for the automobile and no wonder we have obesity. We are not worried or even aware of where our food is grown in. You know, it should be regional, local, yes. Organic is, is a tag that has really come on what was a very natural thing 50, 60 years ago. And you know, for the first time ever we have obesity and malnutrition in the same body. So there's something very wrong with what we're calling food and where, how we're trying to nourish people. So here's what I'm wondering. This is very in Vogue now. I think people are starting to figure out the connection between the food and the environment. I think because there are so many environmental catastrophes that are happening outside our door and people's sicknesses are getting worse and worse than chronic diseases. How did you have those foresight 20 years ago or 30 years ago? How did you, it's very hard to go against the grain, you know, but it sounds like you have some type of vision. How did you know this? I have a lot of entrepreneurs that listen to this. Where, where did you feel this in your body? Well, I think there is a lot to be said about following your heart or you know, in your gut. And I believe that these organs are actually thinking functions and the mind is set up to organize. And we have gotten in Western society the idea that we should be led by the mind and that's not so, and if you find a lot of people that are out front one, any concept in any area is because they had that gut feeling or they followed their heart on what they wanted to do. Our, our mind is as far too organized. It won't let us go out in front. There were. And so I'm one of those people who have always sense things and been willing to follow my senses rather than what conventional wisdom tells us. I did that with the restaurants. We were the leaders and going into places like Midtown, one pinned down was nothing, no place. We were the first liquor license in Roswell, a first table service restaurant in Decatur. We were part of the Pennsylvania development authority renovation of Pennsylvania Avenue in the 80s between the white house and the Capitol downtown Pennsylvania. So we were really willing to take those, the, those gutsy move just because it seemed right. And those were all places that are fabulous today. You have won awards for this, you are world renowned for what you've done in this community. And I think it has sparked an inspiration to be able to duplicate those. How do you replicate this beyond these walls? Because it's, it's very expensive to live here. So some of the critiques are, you know, I can't, it sounds great. I can go visit, you know, there are yoga retreats. There's ways to do that. There's an in that I could stay on, but I can't afford to live there. So you've touched on two things that I'd like to both the address both of them separately. So first of all, let's talk about how do you replicate this? And the important thing, it isn't, it is not about the granite curbs, the custom streetlights the incredible physical things that you see here. It's really the principles that you, you see you know, when we started everyone thought I was crazy. And at times I did too, but I had crossed through that path threshold of passion that I knew we had to do it because I suddenly realized that no one was doing this as I searched for somebody to help me and I, I couldn't believe it and I realized it had to be done. And so we just we're busy doing because anyone I talked to about aha, sure. But we found out the market was ready. People were showing up to buy it, even though the financial community and the real estate community thought we were just nuts. He sold a lot before it even broke ground. We did. But, but, but that, that was strictly one-on-one, people that had heard about it and knew about it, and it started selling out. So I started very, very slowly. And then of course, the recession hit and, and that was difficult for us as long as everyone else. But were some of the few people our size that remained alive. And during the recession then or after the recession, there were a lot of analysts that realized walking communities and environmental communities where some of the first to step out of the recession. So suddenly there was a lot of interest in places like Serenbe, what were we about? What were the principles? Why were buyers interested in this? And that's when I realized that many people were putting us in boxes whether it was a new urbanist, environmentalist Agra hoods. And we're all of that the urban land Institute, which is the granddaddy of all developers. They published a book on the 10 top environmental communities where one of those 10, they also have a pamphlet on the 10 top dense or newer business communities. And we're also there. We're the only one in both. And now they have a whole pamphlet and teaching about bringing agriculture in and, and we led that effort and we're the only one in, in that, in, in all three. And so I thought, well, who are we? What are the principles? And I real fault lies that it's really following the biophilic principles. I meant to ask you what is biophilic? So it's, it's it's great if, if, if any of your listeners come to visit find the Halsa restaurant and we've created a room next door to really educate people on what biophilia movement is. The term biophilia was popularized by EO Wilson. And then Yale has done a lot of work Stephen Kellert out of Yale and Tim [inaudible] out of the university of Virginia. And it, it, I realized that I had to deal with about 13 silos that I have identified, both in public perception and policy. Because 50% of what you see here at Serenbe was not allowed when we started in 2002, three. Who was governing it though? Well, these are local zoning codes. It's federal storm water environmental protection division. There's, we have so many layers of regulations and they are layered on decade after decade without really understanding why sometimes something happens in a regulation. And then we might put another regulation on 20 years later, but we haven't removed the earlier one. And, and a lot of these regulatory boards are now in such silos. They don't understand even the unintended consequence that another entity has within the division. And so this is what we started running up against is all this. So, so we've identified and you'll see a big board and, and, and we can get you a picture of it if you, if you put on, but it's, it's those various silos that we brought all together. And so it's just like so many things that happen naturally, 50, 80 years ago, we didn't have to identify him. It's become society. Just like you identified food. It was just local good food. Yeah. Now we've tagged it as organics, dif, you know, do we say that's organics versus chemicalized food? I mean, that's, that's sort of, it'd be better from a psychosomatic person. That's what it should be. We should say we're having to identify good food versus what we've turned food into or what we call food. So it's just a lot of those things. This is really a, a movement I believe that we have been part of from the built environment people are doing in other ways. And now working with Tim Bartley of the university of Virginia we host the biophilic summit, and these are leaders of both educators and policymakers. So planners of cities MIT, Harvard, Yale, they all come now and to big planners head of Google campuses, for instance, to just come on our board. And every spring you can go on our webpage is the biophilic summit. And people are coming from all over. We've also in the fall, now we have Nygren placemaking. We're planning, I think our seventh conference. And this is geared for developers to really address what these principles are. So if you want to do it you can bring your local legislators, your, your city council people or your bankers. And many times we've had some local governance bring developers to show them this is what they want in their community, something more like this. So we're now a good model that, that can be used to show this makes economic sense, is quality of life, it's health, it's a lot of these things that we're searching for today. And we're now a model that makes that happen. And a 40% of the people that come to this conference are outside the United States. So this is a, this is actually a global concern. It isn't just in the United States. And then we'll touch on the affordability as well. So that's a good question. So you see when we started, that was part of the original plan to have affordable housing. Right? Well, number one was looking at environmental. And I found when I talked about the environmental aspects, people say, Oh, are you going to be one of those eco villages with straw bale houses and imagine in the earth. And you know, there I realized there was a real stigma towards environment and what have you and that if we were going to change things, we had to bring influencers in from various places. And you don't do that through affordable housing. The other thing I looked at is this area did not need affordable housing. We were in an area that was depressed this 40,000 acres could not cover their own bills for services. So we were a detriment to Fulton County. And so the understanding is that that we needed executive housing to balance the tax base. So it's popular today to talk about affordable housing because the stories that hit the press are those places where workforce housing is displaced. We're not talking about enough is the communities across the United States where the executive housing has disappeared and services have had to been cut to the very bone, or those local jurisdictions have gone bankrupt because they have not kept an equal balance of housing on both sides. If you look at what's happened to rural America and the anger, and that's coming, that's the big issue. We have created places with only affordable housing. And so this is a, another thing that we have to look at both sides of the coin. And we're a good example of that. So in the 40,000 acres we were able to convince the state legislature that we could have independence of our own city because Serenbe's tax base that we projected forward. So today we have disturbed 80 acres that's tax producing in a 40,000 acre city, and we represent 50% of the tax base. Wow. So this allows farmers to stay on their farm, land at a reasonable tax base. This allows for affordable housing in the area. And the leadership from our community has stood up an incredible charter school for the greater area. 500 kids attending that school. The majority of them come from low income housing. And it's a real model. If you look at CBS Sunday morning, Google that Chattahoochee Hills charter school alive, you saw at the school, I saw, I saw your, your special on. Oh, so you see, we really, and there's where health these, you know, we, we built cottages for the classrooms in the woods. Kids spend a third of every day in nature and we have the lowest reported absentee due to health of any school in the state. And so this is a good example. There are some simple solutions out there that aren't that hard, but we are in such ruts of how we do things that, that we're missing these solutions. Have you seen people from these, these summits that you have here? Have you seen this duplicated? Is that, I think the farmers are the real heroes too. You know, like how have you seen it? Have you seen it pop up elsewhere? Well, the thing is is you do not see replicas, but you see principles applied in various areas. So you look at the number of developers putting farms in, you look at the number of places that are now doing geothermal and not allowing lawns and they're, they're taking pieces of it. The idea of putting a blueberry Bush as your, your crosswalks were really influencing development around the country and even some people that haven't been here. The other key thing is universities are really showing up. And so this is some of the, your future planners and Texas a and M has the connection, you hear them say an N. They have had two semesters where they bring the professor and students for a complete 12 weeks where they live on campus. So it's a semester away program. We are working now with the university of Georgia to create a program where students from anywhere can apply as long as their host university accepts the, the, the curriculum that they're setting. And we hope that leads to an actual dorms that we're going to build a us so that university students from anywhere in the world could come. It's an opportunity for corporations. Bosch had their experience center here for five years. And so a good example they have, they're in 36 countries. This could be a scholarship program they create for all their communities too, where kids in those communities could apply to spend a semester here on environmental education. And this may be a meta question, but I'm thinking about, I know you have daughters, I know you have grandchildren and your grandchildren. Are they growing up on the property? They are, what is it like to watch them grow up in this community that must have been different from your daughters who grew up in the city? It is such a reward. I mean, that, that, that, that is my, that's your legacy, you know? Absolutely. And you know, we, we, if you have children, you start looking at the world through a different lens. And it was the weekends here in the country. W w our girls were three, five and seven when we first purchased the land, they were six, eight, and 10 when we moved here. And that was just following my gut and my heart as to what I thought was necessary for them. Did your wife freak out? Like where are they going to go to school? Well, they were going to Woodward and they continued to go toward where, so you, we're, we're on the edge of the city, so we didn't, you know, we're not in nowhere. That's the beauty. We didn't have to change our doctors, our hair stylist, we didn't change anything except where we lived on a day to day basis. And we had a great house. We, we had the second largest lot in Ansley park on a Hill. We had an acre and Ansley and anyone who sees acres that just, you know, that that's, most of them are about a quarter acre, you know, if that, and some smaller. And so we, you know, it was ideal, as ideal as you could have in the city. And we loved it and we just changed. And so after we lived here full time for about six months at dinner one night, I asked the girls if they were happy. We made that change because there was changes. Excuse me, I expect them to say, Oh yeah, we have bunnies, we have a horse. And they looked at each other and Garnie, my oldest looked at me and she said, the freedom dad. And I said, what do you mean to freedom? And she said, well, we had that big yard in Ansley fans too, but we always knew you were looking out the window at us and we could never ride our bicycles unless there was an adult with us on along the sidewalks. And she says, when we moved out here, we became free. And I had no idea that I was that uptight about them or they were in the city or that they were aware of it. And so so that, that was about 11 years after that. Richard Lou wrote the book last child in the woods, and I don't know if you're familiar with that, but this from that book is a medical term, that derived of nature deficit disorder and it's children's brains really are not developing. There's a piece of it that's that you think of as common sense because they live in such structured, built and social environments that they never have the opportunity to develop. And so I, I, I sent rich a note and said, thank you for giving voice to what we intuitively knew 11, 12 years before that. I said, all of our friends in the city thought we were nuts. Now I can just send them your book and they can see that we were, we really understood something. I think one of the best examples is a big picture of a group of kids that are out running a various ages and they, they cross a stream with, you know, a couple inches of water. Not a big deal if you hit it, but there's rocks in it. And all the bigger kids know how to hit the rocks and get across to the other side. And off they go. And this picture zeroes in on about a three year old and you can see he hasn't crossed the stream yet. And he's standing there looking at the rocks and trying to figure out if his legs are long enough to hit those places to keep going. And that's the kind of brain development that doesn't happen today because very few kids are in a natural environment. And if they are, there's an adult that picks him up and puts them on the other side of the stream. And so we're depriving our young people of that opportunity. And this is why you hear a lot of professors talking about the smart kids arriving at college that can't figure out simple things. Yeah, that's true. And this is where nature deficit disorder came into be. This is hitting a little bit close to home because I live right in the city. I live in old fourth ward. So I live right on the Atlanta BeltLine and my kids. We have a little backyard, we have a little front yard, we have a garage, we have a gate, you know, so for there, that's a big, big deal there. There aren't a lot of it. But I would not let them for a moment out of my sight. Even though it is cleaned up a lot, you know, and, and the one thing that I miss more than anything is the chance for them to run and be free and to not have us watching them. And I took my kids at, they're four and seven, and I took my kids to a photo shoot and it was at a blueberry farm and I'm in Lawrenceville. And they had a whole thing of wild flowers and they could not be still, they were so happy to just run. So I get that. I believe that too. It must be amazing to watch your grandkids be able to be free. Well, it's, it's incredible. And, and it was the best decision we ever made in our girls. Anyone who knows them, talks about how self-assured they are. I mean, they were, they were leaders in both high school and college. That, that foundation we gave them by moving here and giving them that connection to nature and that freedom that I didn't, not realize we were depriving them of at the time. And now they have all chosen to come back and live here to raise their children and to see my grandchildren and all the kids here. And we, we talked many times about the free range kids and is probably one of the big things people notice is these kids running around without any obvious parents the nature trails, the things they can do. And so I, I think one of the big things we need to do is, is, is look at the two bookends of our society. And now as we're dealing with motto, our community on health and wellness, we really looked at Scandinavia a lot where intergenerational living is very common. And the programming in America we tend to cage both our children and our elders. And that's one thing I think we have to have to change. So I, I'm all for free range kids and uncaged elders. It's completely different. Parents are caged, they're gate. I think there's self-imposed cage. Well they don't want to leave anymore. And that I think is because they don't have access to something, a healthier environment. Will you look at the wa, I mean this is all very convenient for everyone to walk. They, you know they can sit on their front porch and people of all ages come by to wave and just say hello and what a difference that makes. For an elderly person that's maybe especially they lose their driver's license or their homebound for our health reasons to have a bunch of kids run them by your front door all the time. That's the way it used to be. And it, it, it, it lifts our spirits. Tell me about the art in the community. Your whole face just lit up, but also so you see, we, you know, the basis here is, is, is preservation of land. So 70% is, is going to be preserved. And then the density creates the density. So that's the basic underlying of the zoning. But we realized there were four other pillars if we wanted really a vital lifestyle. And that's art, agriculture, health and education. And art is an important piece. It has been through generations through centuries. But we seem to not be funding it, not giving it the respect or the importance that it needs. And so we wanted to develop areas for artists and we wanted to put policy in place. So we created the serum B Institute for art environment and there is a 1% transfer fee for every house is sold or resold in the future. So this gives a permanent annual funding for arts programming. This allowed us to do some early things. Our artist in residence program was the first program we borrowed people's carriage houses, guest rooms. Now we have a 40 acre campus that we're developing for our visiting artists. Wow. Because we had those funds we were able to launch the play house and now Serenbe play house is house is like, I, I, I've never been there, but people rave about it. It's, well, the, the playbill out in New York said we were one of the 20 important regional theaters in the United States today. You must be so proud. And then because of our Institute, when the contemporary dance group left the Atlanta ballet two years ago, we were able to catch them so that they, Metro Atlanta did not lose them. And so now we have Terminus, which was the contemporary dance. So and then plus we have smaller. So those are each now large enough that they are their own divisions under the umbrella of the Institute. It's a little bit like Woodruff arts center and has the divisions under it. And then we're also have other groups dealing with music and film and things that might emerge to to major divisions in themselves. So that's growing. In fact, the 2020 budget is three and a half million dollars. Wow. Funding the yards a lot, especially the play house and Terminus, a lot of their tickets, that's unheard of. Unheard of. And it's sustainable because a lot of their budget comes from ticket sales and classes. So it's earned income. It isn't always with their handout. And that's part of what sustainability is. If there, if there's a foundation of money somewhere then you inspire them to go out and do these things and not always having to worry about whether they're going to survive for the next year. That base is there and it allows creativity and entrepreneurship within the arts. That's gotta be amazing to be able to have that kind of well-rounded offering here. Do people never leave? I mean, are there some people that just stay on property? You know, we have this incredible pool and the arts and all, and I, and I know of three families last year that shared with me that when they were planning their summer vacation, they couldn't figure out any place to go that they would like better than staying home. You get depressed, you know, like driving off the lot therapy. I don't dry off that much, you know. But you know, I've been, Atlanta is right there so I don't miss anything that I want. But and you see like the, the Playhouse, only 1% of our ticket sales conferences, zip code people are coming in from all over. In fact, we have an amazing number of season ticket holders outside the state. Wow. Isn't that something? But you do have a lot of programming for holidays and for season and for children and for families here, if you go to our page, we have things every week. I will never try and go yoga. But I've been to a yoga retreat here within, try the Ariel now she, you know, the yoga studio now that they boot in their new space in the one Moto building, they have aerial yoga and that is an incredible hit for coming. So I will do that, but not go yoga. Yeah. Well you know, you could watch, I have a girlfriend that is desperate cause she comes down here from Roswell to do goat yoga and she's like, you're going with me? And I said, no, I'm not. I'll go for any other reason. She's, she's convinced. I'll try it. But but I love what you're doing. And, and one thing I was thinking about, cause I think our other problems to solve and you found a problem that has been solved here. Where do you go from here? Well, we have a lot of things to do. Yeah. What's next? You know, when I think about where we were 20 years ago is we were just thinking about saving this. And luckily a dear friend was Ray Anderson. People in the environmental movement would know him as he founded interface carpet, which brought carpet squares to America. And then after reading Paul Hawkins book in the 90s he changed his company to be an environmental footprint for 30 years. And when the white house created the council on the environment in the early nineties or mid nineties, he was the first chairman of that. Now he's a dear friend. His stepson's godfathered are a 31 year old. So we knew Ray through all this. And so at dinner one night when I was concerned, I said, Ray, you know, the smart people who, who could come help us, who's, who's developing responsibly. And of course, there were no developers doing this kind of responsible development to this degree, but he asked the Rocky mountain Institute out of Colorado to help. And so Ray and the Rocky mountain is to convene 23 thought leaders here in September of 2000. Now, this is back when there were only a few voices talking about the environment. Today, while there's still a lot to be done, we at least have a roadmap and we have a pretty good idea of what needs to be done and what the problems are. Today I think we're at the same place with health that we were 20 years ago with environment. We know we have to do something. We know we can't continue. How can you contribute here on what has been done? We are, we are really at the forefront of this. We are, as a society, we're sicker than we've ever been. And I depressants increase four fold each decade. For the first time in the last two years, our life span has become shorter rather than longer. And that, that trend has, has turned at the current rate through some of the CDC figures. If we don't reverse the amount of money we're spending by 2035, it will be 50% of our GDP towards health. This is a train wreck that a lot of people are talking about and there's going to be something different. We, we feel well, we know we're at the forefront. Two years ago, the global wellness summit that looks at this internationally gave us the international award and innovation for built environment and what we're doing here very few people here use their insurance, but everyone feels they have to have it. And I call the, our current insurance. That's extortion. And so if you have people doing health where, you know, where's that going to change? How's are, how are people going to take, start taking control of their own responsibility for their health? We should own our own health records instead of these medical institutions. We should be looking we should be making it a lot better for natural. We, we have a medicinal garden that was planted planned by the university of Georgia. We're teaching people how to harvest their front yard rather than run to the pharmaceutical company. And so we are, we're in a very broken society is we deal with our health and you just look w w we're getting sicker and more depressed and starting to die younger. So there's something seriously wrong. I think a lot of it comes from the built environment and that's the piece that we're demonstrating and showing it, it can happen. And we're an option for people that want to change their lives. Sarah and B and places like Sarah and B are, you start looking the fact that we do not have lawns that have to be chemicalized I think deals a lot with the asthma issue and probably cancer. You know, we, we w we live in fascinating. Yeah. We live in a chemical society. Yeah. We, we you know, almost all houses have lawns. You, you have to chemical eyes it to keep the weeds down and make it look like it does. And we're in a tendency to want things to bloom rather than edible things. We're, we're, we're putting things that bloom. And then we put chemical fertilizers on that to make them grow more. And then pretty soon the bug started coming out. I was wondering how you guys handle bugs here. Well, we are in Georgia as though it's amazing. You walk by our streams, puddles of water. More people call me and ask me what we do to prevent the mosquitoes and the pesty bugs. Yeah. The, you know, the, our ecosystem works pretty well if we leave it alone. But if you start putting these chemicalized things, the natural predators of those pesty bugs disappear. They're going to get out. And so we're left with these pesty bugs that are overpopulated then such as mosquitoes. And then, then we wonder what's wrong. You know, when we lived in Ansley park, it drove me crazy. At least twice a year I came home and there was a sign in my neighbor's yard. Do not walk on the lawn for 24 hours. My cats could never read that across the lawn, into the house, onto the sofas. But you know, how does that disappear for 24 hours? So, so, you know, it's dangerous enough that they have to post these signs and then we wonder why we have cancer and asthma and depression. We need to wake up as a society and as buyers start demanding different places that we're going to live and that we're going to raise our children. What are some ways, what are some ways that people can help take steps for a healthier life? Well let's just talk about the built environment. For instance wherever you live. This was a tour I had about several months ago and I was talking about this and there was this, this, this woman and after I was talking about this, I thought she was ill because she kinda got white and she, I could tell she'd lost focus. And I said, are you all right? She, she asked, she said, I've just been thinking, we live on a call to SAC with about 20 houses and our whole bigger community, there's a big prize on the yard of the year, tons of chemicals. And we pride ourselves at someone on our call. The SAC always wins. And I had been sitting here thinking about each house and there has been an cancer in almost every house on our call to SAC. And she says, I'm, she says, you have just scared me to death. She says, what you just said makes so much sense. And I'm just applying that to my own neighborhood. So one thing is get your neighborhood together and decide that, that, that this is a problem and you're going to change what you're doing. And everybody thinks, Oh my God, what's the neighborhood going to look like without lawns? It's amazing how few people notice. We don't have lawns. I didn't notice. See, I love it. I bring developers through. I do tours of landscapers and their clothes that the front porches are close to the road. That's right. Yeah. And, and so it and many times we've walked 40 minutes through the community talking about the very aspects of, they'll say no, what's one of the biggest things you notice that's different about most communities? And they talk about the granite curves, the streetlights, the width the the car, all sorts of things. And, and it's, it's rare, maybe 10% of the time that people notice there are no lawns and they all look surprised when I tell them, Oh, there's no one. So, so just start looking about where you live, that, that's a huge thing. Start using your, your local farmer's market, really think about the food you're putting on the table and what that food is and where it's going and where it's coming from. It can, you know, organic from Argentina, I don't think, you know, makes sense. I would rather have a locally grown from a region around here. So support local farmers, local food, understand that you know, meet part of the problem with meat is, is all the steroids and things that is put into it. Yeah. Where if you're getting local meat, local chicken grass, the grass fed, you look at just the color of a, of a chicken in a grocery store that comes from grass fed and comes from a chicken farm. And the color of it is very different. You look at a grass fed, a egg versus a regular egg that the colors are very different. So start being aware of of the food you're putting on the table and what you're doing. Start thinking about your daily habits of, of, of, of, of where you're, where you're walking. We're in, can you walk, where can you walk to places versus constantly worried about convenience. That's a huge piece is the physical activity here at Sarah and B, we have winding streets, but we have a path grid. So generally you can get everyone faster by foot than you can by car. That's an intentional design yet attentional design. Wow. And, and you find we really don't have that much room. So someone shared that they had been on diets for 30 years and finally gave it up about five years before moving here. Hadn't thought about diet, but suddenly they had lost 20 pounds. And it's purely the lifestyle of the food available and the fact that once you park your car, you're, you're walking to everything here. And so that, that, that's a real lifestyle. So there's, there's a lot of simple things in what we're doing. I think the wakey the awareness part, it's things like thinking about lawns that I would have never thought about even though it is right in front of my face, you know. So I thank you for that. I think it's really helpful cause I think people are starting to understand that what they eat and what's around them is really affecting their health. I think people are starting to connect that there is sickness or the antidepressants are because of some of the things that are not really their fault, just not the awareness of a better way. And now I think it's becoming more in fashion to to have sustainable, better energy. Do you guys have solar panels here or is it electricity? How, how do you, when you've touched another great thing. So, you know, it's another one of those issues where everyone understands the issue, but they come in at the wrong place on it. So when you're talking about things like solar, we really need to talk about reducing your demand of energy. Tell me more. And so every house here has to be certified. Most people know about lead certification. We use earth craft, which is out of the South. Well, I like it. It's local. It, it's out of Atlanta and it's in the Southeast. I really like it because they have a minimum of three inspections. So I know when that house is completed. And so I, I love you, I love your perceptions because you're, you're, you're exactly where we are as a society and in, in talking about the expense. So I want to talk a little bit more about that. So if you, if you reduce the demand in, in building a well built house, that reduces your energy demand by about 30 to 35%, then if you put geothermal in, which is a very natural system of using the temperature from the earth to heat and cool your house, that reduces your HVHC costs by 50% or about 35% of your overall energy demand. The other thing about geothermal is it's silent. So you don't have those air compressors going, which a lot of things I think disturbs our nervous system is the noise of a lot of these things. And the compressors are one of those things that our air conditioning, so if you have reduced your energy demand by 65 to 70%, then solar becomes very affordable. And the next step to put a solar on a non-energy efficient house, it doesn't make a lot of sense. It's, it's very costly. And this is why the, the payback. So most people, when they talk about things, it is more expensive to build a good house. It's a little more expensive. You put solar on. But a good example is the demonstration house we built with BOSH. And so it was certified. It was geothermal. And then on a 1800 square foot house, they were able to put a third of the solar. So it cost a third to actually put solar to run the house. You can watch the meter running backwards. It was more expensive when we sold it. They got a 75 or 80% mortgage. So their monthly mortgage bill was more expensive than it would buy on a comparable house somewhere that wasn't certified, wasn't geothermal, it wasn't solar. But the increase in their mortgage was less than what their power bill would have been. So it's cash positive year one, month one. And so what happens is we are used to comparing silos to silos rather than overall things. And, and, and that's a problem that keeps us in these ruts of doing the same old thing because of this stereotype that it's more, and actually it's not, it is more expensive to build, but it, it's less cashflow every month out of the family pocket. Those are the kinds of things we're not looking at. And then if you reduce your health costs by having an environmentally built house, no asthma, just just think of what that starts doing. Quality of life as well as actual medical bills. So in America we are really not applying costs of things, the true cost of everything. And so that's why we're having troubles measuring and we don't do a lot of things because we perceive it as being too expensive. Yeah. I think when you put it into context like that, it makes a whole lot of sense. And it sounds so idyllic here and it makes me sad that I don't know that I could live here, you know, like can I, but if I could take certain steps to get better and to bring this awareness to people, that's how it starts. I suspect you're an aware enough person and you have children that you'll do anything for them. And as you become aware of these issues, there's things that you haven't noticed that will probably really start bothering you when you think about how it's affecting your kids. And that's, that's where we're going to change the, the, the public has to start with what we're willing to put up with as buyers, whether it's home, whether it's what our food or what, where are we? And so what Sarah, and be in places like Sarah and be, we're making people aware of these differences. And I've had a lot of people that come back and say, you know, I, I hate you. And I said, why? And they said, you've made me aware. Yes. And now some of these little things I didn't think about driving me crazy. You know, whether it's, you know, this woman said, I, I, you know, I never really realized how irritated I was at the compressor, outside our bedroom window. And now that you talked about it, she says, now it's louder than ever. She said, it's just driving me crazy. It's like nails going down. You know, I think there's a lot. And so if there's anything we need to wake up as a society because we cannot continue in this path. It's just, it's, it's just that serious. That's why I was so interested in thankful to have some time with you because I think it is an important change that needs to be made. How do people find you? We can go to our webpage at www dot Serenbe dot com E R E N. B. E. And it's tell me where the name came from. Well, it was when we came out here. And you tend to name your land and w w when we slowed down to simply be, we found the serenity we had been searching for. That's beautiful. You know, we, we tend to go faster and faster searching and the reality is if we just slow down, chances are it's right there. Well, thank you so much Steve. You are blazing a trail. I'm so thankful for the example that you're setting and the time you spent with me and for my audience, and can't wait to see what's next for you. Well, I'm looking forward to you bringing your children back and spending some time in nature and on us, our of our trails that they will love it. Thank you.

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The Scalpel with Dr. Keith Rose is proudly sponsored by Zbones Bone Conduction Headphones   Learn more @ zbones.io   Interview with Veteran, Actor, Director, Writer, and Patriot, Kerry Patton.   Kerry Patton - IMDB    https://www.imdb.com/name/nm6435165/   Ours may become the first civilization destroyed, not by the power of our enemies, but by the ignorance of our teachers and the dangerous nonsense they are teaching our children. In an age of artificial intelligence, they are creating artificial stupidity. Thomas Sowell   If they were taught actual history and civics. If they understood the founding   "The aim of every political Constitution, is or ought to be first to obtain for rulers men who possess most wisdom to discern, and most virtue to pursue, the common good of society; and in the next place, to take the most effectual precautions for keeping them virtuous whilst they continue to hold their public trust." James Madison   ". . . Virtue, morality, and religion. This is the armor, my friend, and this alone that renders us invincible. These are the tactics we should study. If we lose these, we are conquered, fallen indeed . . . so long as our manners and principles remain sound, there is no danger." Patrick Henry   Cut 1: Remember “webiles wobble but they don’t fall down https://grabien.com/file.php?id=799151   NADLER: “There is an overwhelming case beyond any reasonable doubt that the president betrayed the country by using by withholding federal funds appropriated by Congress, breaking the law in doing so, in order to extort a foreign government into intervening in our election to embarrass or to try to embarrass a potential opponent of his. There’s overwhelming evidence of that. We couldn’t wait because — I mean, some people said well, let the election take care of it. He’s trying to cheat in that election. So it is essential that we bring this impeachment to stop the president from trying to rig — not from trying, he tried — from rigging the next election, from conspiring with a foreign government as the Russian government attempted to rig our last election. The evidence is overwhelming. The latest evidence with Parnas and Giuliani makes it even more so. It made sense to wait a while, as the more evidence filled up but we have to proceed, because the election, the integrity of the election is at stake. Let me at one other thing. This is a test of the Constitution. The president’s conduct violates the Constitution in every single way. Trying to rig an election. Stonewalling the Congress saying no one may testify because I can have a coverup despite Congress. But it’s a test of the Constitution now. The Senate is intended by the Constitution to conduct a fair trial. The American people know that in a trial you permit witnesses. You present the evidence. If the Senate doesn’t permit the introduction of all relevant witnesses and all of documents that the House wants to introduce, because the House is the prosecutor here, then the Senate is engaging in an unconstitutional and disgusting coverup. So The question is does the Senate — the Senate is on trial as well as the president — Does the Senate conduct a trial according to the Constitution to vindicate the Republic or does the Senate participate in the president’s crimes by covering them up?”   Obama Passed the Buck. Trump Refused to Play. https://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and-politics/296902/obama-passed-the-buck-trump-refused-to-play https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/2020/01/donald-trump-and-mythmakers-caroline-glick/   Cut 2: https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/01/brian-mast-speaks-silence-ensues.php   We're All Being Pretty Quiet About Obama's Failures, Aren't We https://thefederalist.com/2015/12/15/were-all-being-pretty-quiet-about-obamas-failures-arent-we/   Move away from self government the more destruction you experience. No one can legislate self government. All country’s suffering social decay Are a lack of self government. Break laws personally, breaking of personal law produces public chaos. Don’t have a community problem, we hAve personal problems that Effect the community.   Small Business: Entrepreuners ^^^. Increased regulations extinguish Individual drive where   Work (ergon) means to become. If you go to work you can be sent home.   Growth without management leads to chaos. Massive unchecked growth consumes resources indiscriminately. The larger an unchecked, unmanaged, and unaccountable group becomes (without self government) the more it consumes.   In the real free market the better you manage, the more resources you are given. In government the poorer you manage, the more resources are taken to fix the unmanageable situation. (Throw more money at it)which creates opportunity for the morally challenged, (no self government) to enrich themselves while seemingly trying to solve the unsolvable problem (intentionally). This usually spawns more opportunity for growth of the disfunctional organization and that sums up our expanding leviathan of a central government. are thrown at it.   Self government is a must when oversight is at a minimum.   Individual in the free market gets paid for creating solutions and solving problems. There ability to address and solve problems create value. The more coherent and orderly one provides in business, the greater their value.   Politicians, media, govt beaucracy create problems with no solutions that allows them to create wealth by exploting chaos.   In the real world you don’t work for money, you are paid for solutions. In the political realm, you are not paid for solutions but increase your wealth by creating problems for which there are no solutions. Just more programs, think tanks, non profits, ect. Creating a need so you can take more from those who work with the by product of disincentivizing the best and brightest from reaching for the stars to fulfill their purpose and destiny. Self government brings stability, order, and clarity. Where problems are solved, diseases are cured and the civil society benefits as a whole from the individual’s self governing. When legislative government grows past its confines and intent... it produces chaos, destruction and the dissolution of the civil society.   POSTED ON JANUARY 15, 2020 BY SCOTT JOHNSON IN IRAN, JOHN KERRY, OBAMA FOREIGN POLICY “A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY” REVISITED The Democrats can’t wait to realign American policy on Iran consistent with the inclinations of the mullahcracy. It is a bloody disgrace. Lee Smith performs a great service reminding us of the essential elements of Obama’s policy in the Tablet column “Obama passed the buck.” I had forgotten some of the details. I strongly recommend Lee’s refresher course. The cash and other financial resources made available to Iran in part as ransom and in part to secure the JCPOA aren’t the worst of it, but they have done great damage. Lee puts it this way (and I think he has it right): There were several money streams the former White House poured into the regime. One was sanctions relief, worth hundreds of billions of dollars. Last month Iranian President Hassan Rouhani said that in leaving the JCPOA and reimposing sanctions, Trump cost the regime $200 billion. The Obama administration provided another source of income by unlocking escrow accounts when the deal was implemented in January 2016, flooding the regime with some $100 billion in previously frozen oil receipts. The most infamous payoff was the $1.7 billion in cash the administration shipped off to the IRGC on wooden pallets in exchange for U.S. citizens held hostage by the regime. The White House said that there was no “quid pro quo,” that it was Iran’s money to begin with—$400 million the pre-revolutionary government had deposited in 1979 to buy U.S. arms, plus interest. But the U.S. had already used the $400 million to compensate terror victims of the Islamic Republic. That was Iran’s money. The $400 million the Obama administration used to “pay back” the Iranians belonged to the U.S. taxpayer. Of course, that’s not how Obama administration Secretary of State John Kerry puts it. We have the spectacle of John Kerry defending Obama’s policy with an explanation like this one last week reported by the Washington Free Beacon: “Kerry on $1.7 Billion Payment to Iran: ‘We Gave Them a Little Bit of Money’” Kerry appeared on the CBS Sunday morning gabfest and was pressed mildly on this point by host Margaret Brennan (transcript here ). The clip below captures the exchange.   Trump Economy Is Really Experiencing a Middle-Class Boom https://www.heritage.org/markets-and-finance/commentary/trump-economy-really-experiencing-middle-class-boom Under our watch https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/01/new-post-trump-constitution-partisan-impeachment-endless-investigations/     #KerryPatton #Hollywood #Deterrence #GoodGuys #Soleimani #Iran #Iraq #MerryChristmas #Deception #DrKeith #TheScalpel #News #Politics #Future #Conservatives #Democrats #hypocrites #liberals #immigration #presidentialcandidate #brands #america #freedom #branding #progressive #truth #history #Dependence #independence #ValerieJarrett #POTUS #MAGA #Trump

Berättelsen om hur två bröder från Manchester lever ut myten om sig själva med kraschade hotellrum, kaosartade spelningar och vilt festande. 1988 befinner sig en ung brittisk kille på turné med rockbandet Inspiral Carpets. Han arbetar som roadie och har rest med bandet till Tyskland. Han ringer hem till sin mamma i Manchester och får reda på att hans lillebror Liam har startat ett band. Storebror Noel tycker det låter som en usel idé, om han själv inte får vara med i bandet och skriva alla låtar. Så börjar berättelsen om ett av 90-talets mest tongivande rockband. P3 Musikdokumentär om Oasis handlar om bröderna Liam och Noel Gallaghers liv i rampljuset. Om den hårda uppväxten i Manchester, som kantades av både våld och musik. Om drömmen att slå igenom och att bli unisont hyllade av en hel värld. Men framförallt är det en berättelse om två bröder som inte kan hålla sams om en karismatisk sångare och en genialisk låtskrivare som både hatar och behöver varandra. En dokumentär av Teresa Kristoffersson  Producent: Axel Winqvist  Exekutiv Producent: Ulla Svensson Tekniker: Fredrik Nilsson Programmet är en produktion från Tredje Statsmakten Media Ljudklippen i dokumentären är hämtade från: Dokumentären Oasis: Supersonic producerad av Entertainment One, Top of the Pops, Guth av TG4, Parkinson, Inspelning av John Harris från brittiska NME, Late Night with David Letterman, The O-Zone, BBC News, Sky News, MTV, Sirius XM, Channel 4, Seven Network, portugisiska SIC, The Pat Kenny Show, Absolute Radio, CBS Sunday, Ekot. I dokumentären återges scener från böckerna The Last Party av John Harris och Brothers, From Childhood To Oasis -The Real Story av Paul Gallagher och Terry Christian. Artikeln Oasis: Ruling Asses skriven av Chris Mundy och publicerad i Rolling Stone Magazine (1996-05-02) har också varit en viktig källa.

Defo and Lubie talk tons of NFL with the man who will be on the Green Bay Packers vs the Philadelphia Eagles call for Westwood One Thursday night. He also will be on the New England Patriots and the Buffalo Bills call for CBS Sunday, Ian Eagle!

Jacklyn Thrapp and Morgan DeTogne preview what you can expect at the American Theatre Wing's 73rd Annual Tony Awards. We're LIVE at the 2019 Tony Honors talking about what being on a red carpet is like ... then we meet the Broadway stars ahead of the big broadcast on CBS Sunday night. Special Tony-Nominated Guests: Stephane J. Block (The Cher Show) Robert horn (Tootsie), Mary Testa (Oklahoma revival), Heidi Schrek (What The Constitution Means To Me), Jawan M Jackson (Ain't Too Proud: The Life and Times of the Temptations) & Dominique Morisseau (Ain't Too Proud: The Life and Times of the Temptations). PODCAST SPONSORED BY: 260 Sample Sale, Mara Hoffman & Original Sin Cider Watch the IGTV special here For more information about our musical visit GoodMorningNewYorkMusical.com --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app

It’s our first ever live show…thanks again to Union Beer Store for inviting us…we truly felt the love from everyone who came out in support…just be happy, Britney…don’t take the click bait…mira que los trapos sucios se sacan hoy en dia…cancel the cancel…clocked at 10 minutes for the CBS Sunday morning reference…sorry for the GOT spoilers, kids…seriously, we need to find a helium substitute…Betty White for Reina del Carnval…get it together Alabama…maybe instead of a stripper, may we suggest burlesque dancers at your funeral…LOST viewers are probably still upset…ugh, Pattinson as Batman, like Bruce wasn’t moody enough…the rainbow sherbet beer was sooooo delicious… End Song: “Shots” by LMFAO Union Beer Store: http://unionbeerstore.com/

They say three times makes it a tradition. Terry Dimonte loves Christmas and radio, so every year we have him on the show to talk about those two things... and more. We talked about our love of one of North America's most renowned restaurants Joe Beef, and his annual visit from the Prime Minister, Justin Trudeau. Terry mentions that his photographer Adam Scotti is a good Twitter follow. We also touch on he enjoys CBS Sunday morning, and still getting a hard copy of the newspaper. Terry also talked about the changes in his life with his new girlfriend Jessica, and we look forward to CHOM's 50th birthday this fall.I also served up one of the questions from this FYI Music News article I was featured in and we spent our remaining minutes talking about the lack of talent on the air these days. We believe it has hit some form of critical mass and believe radio companies are changing their approach.You'll hear the voice of Jacob Stoller at the tail end of this show; his podcast is called "Leafs on Deck" and it focuses on the Toronto Marlies.Merry Christmas to all!There's more about this episode on our show page!Thanks also to the people who make this show possible every week including:PromosuiteMatt Fogarty VoiceoversJustin Dove at Core Image StudiosMegatraxNLogic

This week’s Truth Prescription features Michelle Miller, CBS Anchor and Host (CBS in the Morning, CBS Sunday and CBS Evening News). This fellow HBCU Alumni, a Howard University graduate, kicks off a candid conversation about her time in college, the life-changing lessons that she learned while studying abroad and the power of failure. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

The program all about TV. Our guests: Jane Root (rescheduled from last week), former Discovery Channel president and executive producer of The Great American Read, beginning its second season earlier this month on PBS; Hannah Anderson (reset from last month), co-star of The Purge, USA Network's event miniseries adaptation of the popular movie franchise, and Suraj Sharma, co-star of God Friended Me, the new CBS Sunday night drama which begins September 30.

The Auburn Podcast: Basketball grabs road win; Top offensive lineman enjoyed Auburn Here are some time stamps to follow along with on the podcast: Start of the show: Blackerby introduces the show and welcomes his listeners from his old podcast. He shares where listeners and reader can find the podcast. 2-minute mark: Auburn basketball earned a big road victory this past weekend without their leading scorer Bryce Brown. Blackerby also discusses Auburn's placement in March Madness Bracket Preview that aired on CBS Sunday morning. 10-minute mark: Calvin Anderson made it clear what he was looking for in his next school. Blackerby measures up Auburn against the other schools that he is considering based on what Anderson has said is important to him. End of the show: Blackerby wraps up playing audio of Anderson's time with the media and previews tomorrow's podcast and urges listeners to rate and review the podcast. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Being asked to write a short bio is like a short walk down a long trail. How could I possibly brush past everything I might have seen along the way? Instead I need to acknowledge the people the that put me on and keep me on the path. The love of my life Gina. She keeps me in line and pointed in the right direction. My boys Will and Henry. I love these two so much more each day. My teachers Chris S., Ralph M., Larry L. and so many more humans I travel the broad highway with each day. My work family Andy, Spencer, Corey, Justin, Casey, Shawn, and now Al, Roy, Mark, Michael, Fee, Johnnie, Jordan, Brandon, and Michael. My fitness folks Everyone at Hit & Run Downtown and Midtown. Especially, Justin, The McGoldricks, Hunter, Big Dave, Coach Matt, Diamond Jim, Brennan, The Lashers, and all the rest of the people working to get better each day. Finally, my Mom, Dad, and Little Sister (Anne Marie). I'm convinced without you I would've been lost long ago.  I heard something on CBS Sunday morning while watching a John McEnroe piece, "As long as you live life will teach you how to live it" or something like that, thank you. Be Well, Bill

Paulie and Petey back from separate vacations. Learn the good, the bad, and the ugly of their trips! Lots of boxing to talk about! CBS Sunday's fights were very good! Tonight on Fox Sports 1 and Mayweather's last fight on Saturday night. Get the inside scoop from the Magic Man and entertainment and airline advice from Petey Podcast!

Paulie and Petey back from separate vacations. Learn the good, the bad, and the ugly of their trips! Lots of boxing to talk about! CBS Sunday's fights were very good! Tonight on Fox Sports 1 and Mayweather's last fight on Saturday night. Get the inside scoop from the Magic Man and entertainment and airline advice from Petey Podcast!