Podcasts about Dale Carnegie

What do you do when life feels too heavy and quitting seems easier than pushing through? In this episode, Sam Hind sits down with Phebe Trotman—former professional soccer player, entrepreneur, and author of the Never Quit on a Bad Day series. Phebe’s journey is one of resilience and determination, shaped by both triumphs and setbacks. She opens up about the real struggles behind her success and the mindset shifts that helped her keep moving forward when life felt overwhelming. Through her stories, Phebe offers practical strategies for staying the course when challenges threaten to derail you. She reminds us that setbacks aren’t the end of the road, but opportunities to grow stronger, and that true success comes from implementing what we learn, not just hearing it. Tune in to gain encouragement, gather strategies to face your own obstacles, and walk away inspired to keep going—no matter what comes your way. We’ll be talking about: ➡ [0:00] Introduction: Never quit on a bad day, on a personal level… ➡ [2:33] Early reflections on resilience and growth ➡ [3:26] Imagining a day full of adventure ➡ [4:23] Sharing the craziest adventure experience ➡ [6:02] Never Quit On A Bad Day book series ➡ [10:15] Lessons from challenges in sport and business ➡ [14:20] A runner analogy ➡ [21:24] Tips from Phebe to give it a bit more ➡ [25:00] Helping others achieve the same success and building confidence ➡ [30:27] Keeping grounded and looking after ourselves ➡ [35:56] Maintaining balance ➡ [41:57] Finding ways to be grateful in your life ➡ [43:21] Phebe’s recommended book ➡ [43:32] Phebe’s favourite superpower ➡ [44:08] Phebe’s Favourite quote ➡ [44:21] Advice Phebe would give her past self ➡ [46:17] Check out Phebe Trotman’s website and socials ➡ [44:30] Closing encouragement and inspiration Resources Recommended Book: ➡ How to Win Friends and Influence People by Dale Carnegie: https://bit.ly/3J0gYgU ➡ Never Quit of A Bad Day by Phebe Trotman: https://bit.ly/3H7A5VQ Quotes: ➡ Never quit on a bad day, on a powerful day, on a day when you’ve decided it’s not for you - Phebe Trotman ➡ Champions are made and the choices that we make - Phebe Trotman ➡ It’s not quitting, it’s transitioning - John Maxwell ➡ Life begins at the end of your comfort zone - Neale Donald Walsch About our guest: Phebe Trotman is an award-winning entrepreneur, Hall of Fame athlete, and bestselling author of Never Quit on a Bad Day™: Inspiring Stories of Resilience book series. A dynamic speaker, coach, and mentor, Phebe is dedicated to helping individuals and teams reach their highest potential through intentional action and a growth-focused mindset.Phebe has excelled in both athletics and business, winning six national soccer championships across levels including U19, NAIA, W-League, Premier, and Masters (x2). She has also earned top honors such as W-League Player of the Year, NAIA Women’s Soccer Player of the Year, two-time First Team All-American, and Simon Fraser University’s Female Athlete of the Year. In business, Phebe quickly rose to the top, earning accolades such as Global Distributor of the Year, Global Trainer of the Year, and Top International Customer Sponsor. She has been featured in Success From Home, Networking Times, the #1 podcast MLM Nation, and the book The Four Year Career for Women. Phebe equips individuals and teams with both the practical tools and the champion's mindset needed to overcome challenges and succeed. She is passionate about empowering others to celebrate their wins, set and accomplish their goals, build resilience, and create a life they love. Connect with Phebe Trotman: ➡ Phebe Trotman’s Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/phebeJOYtrotman/ ➡ Phebe Trotman’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/trotmanphebe/?hl=en ➡ Phebe Trotman’s LinkedIn: ttps://www.linkedin.com/in/phebetrotman/?originalSubdomain=ca Connect with Never Quit On A Bad Day: Website: https://neverquitonabadday.com/ Facebook: https://facebook.com/NeverQuitOnABadDay Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/NeverQuitOnABadDay Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@NeverQuitonaBadDay Connect with Direct Selling Accelerator: ➡ Visit our website: https://www.auxano.global/ ➡ Subscribe to Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/c/DirectSellingAccelerator ➡ Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/auxanomarketing/ ➡ Follow us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/auxanomarketing/ ➡ Email us at communnity_manager@auxano.global If you have any podcast suggestions or things you’d like to learn about specifically, please send us an email at the address above. And if you liked this episode, please don’t forget to subscribe, tune in, and share this podcast. Are you ready to join the Auxano Family to get live weekly training, support and the latest proven posting strategies to get leads and sales right now - find out more here https://go.auxano.global/welcome See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

About the Guest:Rashmi Airan was a high-achieving attorney, Columbia Law graduate, and entrepreneur when a real estate transaction scandal changed everything. After serving time in federal prison, she chose to own her story and use it to help others. Today, she's a global speaker, ethics consultant, and advocate for personal transformation. Rashmi's work is rooted in the principles she learned as a Dale Carnegie graduate at age 16—and the resilience she inherited from her immigrant parents.What You Will Learn:How achievement can mask deeper insecuritiesWhy listening to your inner voice is critical—even when it's inconvenientWhat it means to take radical ownership of your mistakesHow to build a support system that lifts you and holds you accountableWhy surrendering control can lead to personal evolutionJoin us for this deeply personal and powerful conversation with Rashmi Airan. Whether you're facing a challenge or simply want to lead with more authenticity, this episode will inspire you to take command of your life—and rise through whatever comes your way. Please rate and review this Episode!We'd love to hear from you! Leaving a review helps us ensure we deliver content that resonates with you. Your feedback can inspire others to join our Take Command: A Dale Carnegie Podcast community & benefit from the leadership insights we share.

My guest for Episode #324 of the My Favorite Mistake podcast is Trevor Schade. Episode page with video, transcript, and more Trevor began his career as a Lean Six Sigma Black Belt with a strong background in coding and process improvement. He consulted on business efficiency and outsourcing before shifting into real estate in 2008. After earning his license, he quickly built a top-performing team of 26 agents with zero turnover over five years. By leveraging a virtual admin team in the Philippines and innovative automation, Trevor's group generated over a million dollars in commissions. In late 2023, Trevor stepped away from leading that large team to focus on investing, advising, and teaching. Today, he speaks on topics including negotiation, time freedom, and real estate strategy, and he has launched Life Wealth courses to help others pursue similar goals. In this episode, Trevor shares his favorite mistake: jumping into a multi-level marketing business at age 19. The venture wasn't financially successful, but it transformed his mindset. For the first time, Trevor developed a daily reading habit that exposed him to classics like Dale Carnegie's How to Win Friends and Influence People and Robert Kiyosaki's Rich Dad, Poor Dad. Those books gave him a foundation in psychology, leadership, and long-term thinking that continues to influence his work. We also explore: How lessons from Nebraska football and martial arts shaped Trevor's resilience What Lean Six Sigma taught him about efficiency, quality, and leadership Why he focused on psychological safety and belonging to keep his team intact How he used outsourcing and automation to scale without burnout The importance of setting trajectories instead of rigid goals in business and life Trevor's story is a reminder that sometimes the most unprofitable ventures provide the richest education — if we're willing to learn from them. Questions and Topics: What's your favorite mistake? How did joining a multi-level marketing company at 19 shape your growth, even if it wasn't financially successful? Did you ever think about leaving earlier, and was staying too long its own mistake? What lessons did you take from Nebraska football and sports about resilience and bouncing back? How did you first get into Lean Six Sigma and continuous improvement work? In what ways did Lean and coding skills help you scale your real estate business? What did you learn about leadership from running a 26-agent team with zero turnover? How did you create a culture of psychological safety and belonging for your team? Why do you emphasize inspiring people instead of “beating them over the head with metrics”? What role have outsourcing and automation played in your business success? You've said you set trajectories instead of rigid goals — what does that mean in practice? Looking back, how do you connect these mistakes and lessons to your current focus on investing, advising, and teaching?

Ever played the party game Green Glass Door? The rules keep changing, and the fun comes from watching people struggle to figure them out. Your career works the same way. The skills that made you successful early on—working hard, delivering results, and being dependable—will only take you so far. At some point, you cross The Edge, an invisible line where the rules shift.On the other side of The Edge, winning isn't about technical proficiency anymore. It's about relational savvy—your ability to make decisions, navigate diplomacy, and get things done through others. In this episode, Adam unpacks the two games of a career, why the transition is so confusing, and how to avoid getting stuck playing by the wrong rules.Drawing on timeless wisdom from Dale Carnegie, you'll learn practical ways to bring calm, energy, and influence into your leadership. If you've ever wondered why working harder isn't working anymore, this conversation will show you how to play (and win) the new game.

 Introduction In today's workplace, annual performance reviews are being scrapped in favour of more frequent check-ins. Firms like Accenture, Deloitte, Adobe, GE, and Microsoft have all abandoned traditional annual reviews in the last decade, shifting instead to monthly or even continuous feedback systems. On paper, it sounds modern and progressive. In practice, however, little has changed. Without properly trained managers who know how to lead effective performance conversations, more reviews just mean more frustration. The real issue is not the calendar—it's the capability of the boss. Why aren't frequent performance reviews working? Frequent reviews look good in corporate press releases, but research and employee surveys show they don't actually improve engagement. Companies like Adobe and Deloitte found annual reviews ineffective, so they moved to monthly or project-based systems. Microsoft and GE adopted continuous feedback apps to track performance in real time. Yet the same managers who struggled with annual reviews are now expected to deliver high-quality conversations every month or quarter. Instead of better feedback, staff just get more awkward, unclear, and demotivating exchanges. Mini-summary: Even when firms like Adobe or Deloitte adopt frequent reviews, untrained bosses still deliver poor conversations. What is the real cause of failed performance reviews? The heart of the problem is communication, not scheduling. Leaders are being asked to provide feedback more often without ever learning how to do it well. This is true in multinationals like Accenture or Microsoft, just as it is in Japanese SMEs. HR tech platforms now enable instant feedback, but if bosses don't know how to give it effectively, conversations remain pointless. Until we fix the skills deficit, reviews—whether weekly, monthly, or annual—will fail to deliver clarity, motivation, or alignment. Mini-summary: The root issue is a communication skills gap, not the review cycle—high-profile firms prove this too. Why do bosses struggle to have meaningful conversations? Many leaders are overwhelmed and chronically time poor. A big part of the problem is delegation—or rather, the lack of it. Too many bosses hoard work instead of empowering their teams. Combined with endless emails, back-to-back meetings, and excessive reporting, poor delegation creates frantic, burned-out managers. In Japan especially, “player-managers” take on too much individual work and neglect leadership responsibilities. The result is a schedule so overloaded that there is no bandwidth left for deep, meaningful discussions with direct reports. Even firms like GE and Microsoft, who adopted continuous feedback models, have struggled with this managerial bottleneck. Mini-summary: Without proper delegation skills, bosses stay frantic and time poor—killing the chance for meaningful conversations. Can AI fix the performance review problem? AI-powered HR systems promise efficiency, and companies like Deloitte and Accenture are experimenting with digital platforms to support feedback. But technology cannot replace human empathy or leadership. Unless managers themselves are trained to listen, coach, and motivate, AI just speeds up a broken process. It may streamline reporting, but it cannot substitute for trust and communication between boss and team. Mini-summary: AI can help administer reviews, but even the biggest firms show that without skilled leaders, reviews stay ineffective. What training actually makes reviews effective? The solution is not a quick two-hour workshop—it's sustained behavioural training. Programs like Dale Carnegie's Leadership Training for Results focus on real skill-building in communication, time management, and delegation. Leaders must confront fear, practise feedback, and embed habits until they become second nature. This type of training, already adopted by firms in Japan and across Asia-Pacific, creates lasting change that technology alone cannot provide. Mini-summary: Long-term training in communication, time management, and delegation is essential for effective reviews. What should executives and HR leaders do now? Executives need to treat people development as a strategic priority, not a side project. The lesson from firms like Adobe, Deloitte, GE, Microsoft, and Accenture is clear: changing the system doesn't work without changing the skills of the leaders inside it. Performance reviews will only drive growth and retention if leaders are trained to deliver them with clarity and empathy. That requires teaching bosses to manage time, delegate effectively, and hold meaningful conversations. Without this shift, the “frequent review” fad will go the way of many failed HR experiments. Mini-summary: Companies must invest in upskilling leaders—especially in delegation—or frequent reviews will remain empty corporate theatre. Conclusion Performance reviews are not fixed by frequency—they are fixed by quality. In Japan and worldwide, unless bosses are trained to manage time, delegate effectively, communicate with skill, and coach with empathy, reviews will continue to frustrate rather than inspire. The lesson for 2025 is simple: don't just do them more often—do them better.

Cory Holen is a seasoned staffing and search consultant with nearly 14 years of experience at Preference Employment Solutions in Fargo, North Dakota, where he leads the Professional Search Division and plays a key role on the leadership team. A proud University of Jamestown (ND) graduate and former Jimmies football player, Holen brings the discipline, competitiveness, and team-first mindset he developed as a student-athlete into his career helping businesses find and grow great talent.Passionate about connecting people with opportunities, Holen thrives on understanding what makes organizations tick and helping candidates step into roles where they can truly succeed. He's a Certified Search Consultant through the American Staffing Association, DiSC certified, and a Dale Carnegie–trained leader who's always looking for ways to keep learning and improving.Outside of work, Holen is a dedicated husband and dad who loves coaching, mentoring, and supporting his two sports-loving sons, Kason and Brooks. He's also active in the Fargo/Moorhead community, serving as Workforce Readiness Director for FMHRA and contributing to The Chamber's Business Training Committee. Known for his energy, integrity, and genuine care for others, Cory brings both expertise and heart to everything he does. More on Cory here: Our Team - Preference Employment Solutions

In this deeply personal solo episode of Great Practice, Great Life, host Steve Riley opens his heart to honor the memory of his father, Donald C. Riley. What unfolds is not just a tribute, but a vulnerable reflection on the man who shaped him through stories, lessons, and quiet acts of courage. While growing up, Steve's home was filled with fables told by his father. Yet these weren't just stories. They were lessons that last. Donald's career as an FBI agent gave him no shortage of experiences. However, it was his gift for storytelling that left the deepest impression. From the Jake Leg story to the tale of Pete Rose, his words carried wisdom, teaching Steve (and now all of us) what resilience, integrity, and perseverance really mean. As Steve reflects, we hear more than just anecdotes, we feel the weight of his father's choices. Donald lived a life that constantly balanced risk with purpose. His bold run for sheriff, his dedicated career as a private investigator, and his unwavering commitment to family reveal a man who chose courage over comfort, time and time again. Because of that, his stories became lessons passed down from father to son and now shared with us. For Steve, these lessons aren't abstract. Instead, they shaped how he leads, how he lives, and how he shows up for others. By sharing them, he invites us to do the same: to take risks, to embrace failure as a teacher, to cherish our relationships, to honor our commitments, and to build a life rooted in gratitude. This episode isn't polished or distant. On the contrary, it's real. It's emotional. It's an invitation to reflect on your own stories. Think of the people who've shaped you, and the legacy you want to leave. When you listen, you'll discover timeless wisdom and you'll be reminded to make today count. Ask yourself: What are you committed to? What are you grateful for today? In this episode, you will hear: Tribute to Donald C. Riley, a seasoned FBI agent Storytelling as a tool for imparting life lessons and shaping personal and professional growth Personal anecdotes like the Jake leg story and Pete Rose narrative for teaching discipline and perseverance Lessons in courage, failure, and taking risks illustrated through Steve's father's career transitions Emphasis on the impact of small, consistent actions and nurturing relationships Lifelong learning and the influence of Dale Carnegie's principles on his father's life and family legacy  Subscribe & Review Never miss an episode. Subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. ⭐Like what you hear? A quick review helps more people find the show.⭐ Supporting Resources: Donald Riley Obituary: obits.lohmanfuneralhomes.com/obituary/donald-riley Steve Riley, Shareholder, Practice Advisor, and Attorney: atticusadvantage.com/team/steve-riley How to Win Friends & Influence People by Dale Carnegie: www.amazon.com/How-Win-Friends-Influence-People/dp/0671027034 Episode 124: A Deep Dive into How to Win Friends & Influence People: atticusadvantage.com/podcast/how-to-win-friends-influence-people-doug-burnetti My Great Life Focus: atticusadvantage.com/books/my-great-life-focus If there's a topic you would like us to cover on an upcoming episode, please email us at steve.riley@atticusadvantage.com. Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.

Most of the important things in the world have been accomplished by people who have kept on trying when there seemed to be no help at all. ~Dale Carnegie Check out John Lee Dumas' award winning Podcast Entrepreneurs on Fire on your favorite podcast directory. For world class free courses and resources to help you on your Entrepreneurial journey visit EOFire.com

Failure can be fascinating - especially when it teaches you how to actually succeed!In this episode of the LinkedIn Riches Podcast, I share a raw story about a sales call that went completely off the rails.You'll hear how a simple (and avoidable!) mistake cost me the deal, and the surprising way AI became my best sales coach afterward.Whether you're a Small Business Owner, Consultant, or Business Coach, this breakdown will help you understand why some LinkedIn leads close into 6-figure clients while others stall or disappear - and how you can avoid making the same mistake I did!WHAT YOU'LL DISCOVER: 

Develop success from failures. Discouragement and failure are two of the surest stepping stones to success. ~Dale Carnegie Check out John Lee Dumas' award winning Podcast Entrepreneurs on Fire on your favorite podcast directory. For world class free courses and resources to help you on your Entrepreneurial journey visit EOFire.com

Neste episódio especial em parceria com a Dale Carnegie Brasil, conversamos com Rogério Rufino, co-proprietário da Soyagro Insumos e Serviços, que compartilhou como sua profunda vivência no agronegócio, desde a infância no campo até o sucesso como empreendedor em Mato Grosso do Sul, foi moldada por um forte foco em desenvolvimento pessoal e profissional. Descubra as lições valiosas sobre ética, relacionamento interpessoal, gestão de equipe e a aplicação prática dos treinamentos da Dale Carnegie que o ajudaram a construir uma carreira sólida e a prosperar no desafiador mercado agro. Uma história de resiliência, visão e o poder das conexões autênticas para o sucesso em vendas e na vida. PARCEIRO DESTE EPISÓDIO Este episódio foi trazido até você pela Dale Carnegie Brasil! Transforme sua carreira e seus resultados com a Dale Carnegie! Há mais de 100 anos, desenvolvemos líderes confiantes, comunicadores poderosos e profissionais de sucesso. Nossos treinamentos comprovados impulsionam seu desempenho e o de sua equipe. Descubra o poder do seu potencial! Dale Carnegie: construindo o sucesso de vidas e negócios há mais de 100 anos. Site: https://dalecarnegiebrasil.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dalecarnegiebrasil/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/dalecarnegiebrasilYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@dalecarnegiebrasil INTERAJA COM O AGRO RESENHAInstagram: instagram.com/agroresenhaTwitter: x.com/agroresenhaFacebook: facebook.com/agroresenhaYouTube: youtube.com/agroresenhaCanal do Telegram: https://t.me/agroresenhaCanal do WhatsApp: https://bit.ly/zap-arp-01 E-MAILSe você tem alguma sugestão de pauta, reclamação ou dúvida, envie um e-mail para contato@agroresenha.com.br FICHA TÉCNICAApresentação: Paulo OzakiProdução: Agro ResenhaConvidado: Rogério Rufino e Taiguara OnishiEdição: Senhor A - https://editorsenhor-a.com.brSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Neste episódio especial em parceria com a Dale Carnegie Brasil, conversamos com Rogério Rufino, co-proprietário da Soyagro Insumos e Serviços, que compartilhou como sua profunda vivência no agronegócio, desde a infância no campo até o sucesso como empreendedor em Mato Grosso do Sul, foi moldada por um forte foco em desenvolvimento pessoal e profissional. Descubra as lições valiosas sobre ética, relacionamento interpessoal, gestão de equipe e a aplicação prática dos treinamentos da Dale Carnegie que o ajudaram a construir uma carreira sólida e a prosperar no desafiador mercado agro. Uma história de resiliência, visão e o poder das conexões autênticas para o sucesso em vendas e na vida. PARCEIRO DESTE EPISÓDIO Este episódio foi trazido até você pela Dale Carnegie Brasil! Transforme sua carreira e seus resultados com a Dale Carnegie! Há mais de 100 anos, desenvolvemos líderes confiantes, comunicadores poderosos e profissionais de sucesso. Nossos treinamentos comprovados impulsionam seu desempenho e o de sua equipe. Descubra o poder do seu potencial! Dale Carnegie: construindo o sucesso de vidas e negócios há mais de 100 anos. Site: https://dalecarnegiebrasil.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dalecarnegiebrasil/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/dalecarnegiebrasilYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@dalecarnegiebrasil INTERAJA COM O AGRO RESENHAInstagram: instagram.com/agroresenhaTwitter: x.com/agroresenhaFacebook: facebook.com/agroresenhaYouTube: youtube.com/agroresenhaCanal do Telegram: https://t.me/agroresenhaCanal do WhatsApp: https://bit.ly/zap-arp-01 E-MAILSe você tem alguma sugestão de pauta, reclamação ou dúvida, envie um e-mail para contato@agroresenha.com.br FICHA TÉCNICAApresentação: Paulo OzakiProdução: Agro ResenhaConvidado: Rogério Rufino e Taiguara OnishiEdição: Senhor A - https://editorsenhor-a.com.brSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

What if the key to building lasting business relationships wasn't about selling harder, but about genuinely understanding others' perspectives?   In this conversation, Alina Trigub joins Angel to share practical strategies for connecting with people, raising capital, and navigating compliance in real estate syndications. Drawing from Dale Carnegie's timeless principles, Alina explains why empathy, sincerity, and genuine rapport are essential for success. She also breaks down key SEC regulations, including the differences between 506(b) and 506(c) exemptions, and how to avoid costly compliance mistakes.   [00:01 - 03:50] The Power of Positive Interaction How avoiding confrontation keeps conversations flowing in a positive direction. Why making people say “yes” early in a conversation builds rapport. The significance of seeing situations from another person's perspective.   [03:51 - 06:40] Rapport-Building in Action How remembering small personal details, like children's names, strengthens connections. Why sincerity in your smile matters more than you think. The importance of authentic listening to make people feel valued.   [06:41 - 09:31] Practice and Personalization How repeated practice reduces fear and builds confidence. Why you should focus on the strategies that resonate most with you. The importance of implementing a few effective techniques rather than forcing all of them.   [09:32 - 13:01] Compliance and the Rules of Raising Capital What the differences are between 506(b) and 506(c) exemptions. Why understanding “preexisting relationships” is critical for 506(b) offerings. The need to avoid compensation tied directly to capital raised.   [13:02 - 17:11] Finding the Right Fit with Investors How matching investor needs with your offering is like finding the perfect pair of shoes. Why a “no” today doesn't mean “no” forever. The importance of staying connected for future opportunities.   Connect with Alina:   https://www.linkedin.com/in/alinatrigub/   Key Quotes:   “The best way to be successful in anything you do is to understand the other person's point of view.” - Alina Trigub   “Just because they're not the buyer today doesn't mean they won't be the buyer next month.” - Angel Williams     Visit sponsorcloud.io/contact today and unlock $2,000 of free services exclusively for REI Rocks community members! Get automated syndication and investor relationship management tools to save time and money. Mention your part of the REI Rocks community for exclusive offers. Help make affordable, low-cost education summits possible. Check out Sponsor Cloud today!

How can identifying your ideal audience and building genuine relationships transform the way you raise capital?   In this episode, Alina Trigub talks about the art of finding and connecting with your ideal investors. Alina explains why creating a detailed audience profile is the foundation for successful capital raising and how authentic, relationship-driven conversations outperform hard selling. She shares practical ways to identify prospects in everyday settings, turn casual interactions into opportunities, and leverage past career skills in real estate investing. The discussion also draws from timeless relationship principles inspired by Dale Carnegie, offering listeners actionable strategies to deepen trust and credibility with potential investors.     [00:01 - 04:30] Defining Your Ideal Investor Avatar How identifying your audience early makes capital raising easier. Why everyday interactions in familiar environments are ideal for finding investors. The significance of asking open-ended “what” and “why” questions to understand investor needs.   [04:31 - 08:52] Relationship-First Approach to Capital Why trust and rapport often matter more than pitching returns. How to build investor relationships like nurturing a family connection. The need to overcome lack of experience by partnering with seasoned professionals.   [08:53 - 12:00] Leveraging Past Career Skills in Real Estate How skills from previous industries can be repurposed for real estate investing. Why clear communication is vital for explaining complex deals in simple terms. The importance of viewing all past experiences as assets for building credibility.   [12:01 - 16:27] Building Credibility Through Experience How shared backgrounds and personal stories can connect with investors. Why long-term experience, even in different areas of real estate, holds weight. The significance of surrounding yourself with a capable, complementary team.   [16:28 - 20:15] Timeless Relationship Principles for Investors How Dale Carnegie's “How to Win Friends and Influence People” applies to capital raising. Why listening, remembering names, and showing genuine interest strengthen trust. The need to focus on others' priorities to create meaningful, lasting connections.       Connect with Alina:   https://www.linkedin.com/in/alinatrigub/       Key Quotes:   “Think of your day-to-day environment. That's where you'll find people who already know, like, and trust you — your ideal investors.” - Alina Trigub   “When you lack a track record, borrow one by partnering with someone experienced. You're offering them and their credibility.” - Alina Trigub       Visit sponsorcloud.io/contact today and unlock $2,000 of free services exclusively for REI Rocks community members! Get automated syndication and investor relationship management tools to save time and money. Mention your part of the REI Rocks community for exclusive offers. Help make affordable, low-cost education summits possible. Check out Sponsor Cloud today!

Merle Heckman, a Dale Carnegie master trainer and safety podcaster, joins us to discuss how safety pros can take advantage of professional development offerings, networking opportunities and more at the 2025 NSC Safety Congress & Expo, set for Sept. 12-18 in Denver. We also review content from the August issue of Safety+Health.

Merle Heckman, a Dale Carnegie master trainer and safety podcaster, joins us to discuss how safety pros can take advantage of professional development offerings, networking opportunities and more at the 2025 NSC Safety Congress & Expo, set for Sept. 12-18 in Denver. We also review content from the August issue of Safety+Health.

My friendship with Nina has got to be the most unique way I've ever made a friend. You gotta listen to the story and see what happened and why I was a bum or at least looked like one. Nina is pretty awesome and leads retreats, coaches, empowers women, and used to live in a bus. She also has a pet mini horse. And her husband is a firefighter. I hope all this has piqued your interest.   Find Nina at https://www.mysticweightloss.com/  Instagram at https://www.instagram.com/enlightenedwellness.us/    Things mentioned in the show: Chris Guillebeau. We met at his inaugural World Domination Summit in Portland OR. https://amzn.to/3IJCkyU  How to Win Friends and Influence People by Dale Carnegie- https://amzn.to/3GR0IhF  How to Do the Work by Dr. Nicole LePerla- https://amzn.to/4maG0Z2  Paul Saladino's The Carnivore Code- https://amzn.to/4fa2GGz    ---   Click here to change your life- http://eepurl.com/gy5T3T   Hit me up for a one-on-one brainstorming session- https://militaryimagesproject.com/products/brainstorming-session-1-hour    Sign up for the Tip Sheet for tons of income opportunities- https://drdavea6500c.clickfunnels.com/sales-pagekwe3so96    Check out the sweet Hyper X mic I'm using. https://amzn.to/41AF4px    Check out Dr. Dave's Streams of Income at: www.drdavidpowers.com   www.instagram.com/drdavidpowers  www.youtube.com/@streamsofincomebydrdave  --- Join the Streams of Income community at www.facebook.com/groups/streamsofincomedream  --- Check out Passive Income Engines to find your own Streams of Income at www.SelfCoachYourself.com --- Check out my best-selling books: Rapid Skill Development 101- https://amzn.to/3J0oDJ0 Streams of Income with Ryan Reger- https://amzn.to/3SDhDHg Strangest Secret Challenge- https://amzn.to/3xiJmVO --- This page contains affiliate links. This means that if you click a link and buy one of the products on this page, I may receive a commission (at no extra cost to you!) This doesn't affect our opinions or our reviews. Everything we do is to benefit you as the reader, so all of our reviews are as honest and unbiased as possible. --- #passiveincome #sidehustle #cryptocurrency #richlife

Matt Britton has been on the front lines of cultural and technological change for over two decades. He's the founder and CEO of Suzy, a leading consumer intelligence platform that helps top companies make real-time decisions driven by human insights. Matt is also the author of Generation AI and a sought-after speaker known for his bold ideas and data-backed foresight.With a deep understanding of Gen Z and millennial consumers, Matt has helped Fortune 500 companies—from Pepsi to Microsoft—navigate everything from social media shifts to brand reinvention. His mission? To help businesses close the gap between what consumers want and what companies deliver.What You Will Learn:Why Gen Z values community and co-creation over traditional advertisingHow companies can build trust by being transparent, responsive, and realWhy staying static is the biggest risk a brand can takeThe key difference between data and insight—and why that mattersHow to foster a culture of innovation inside large organizationsJoin us for this future-focused conversation with one of the leading voices in consumer trends and innovation. Matt Britton doesn't sugarcoat the challenges, but he also doesn't believe in standing still. If you want to understand where your audience is headed—and how to meet them there—this episode is a must-listen. Please rate and review this Episode!We'd love to hear from you! Leaving a review helps us ensure we deliver content that resonates with you. Your feedback can inspire others to join our Take Command: A Dale Carnegie Podcast community & benefit from the leadership insights we share.

In this episode of Bacon Bits with Master Happiness, host Marty Jalove and guest Nate discuss the timeless principles of Dale Carnegie, focusing on building trust, adapting to others, and the importance of empathy in communication. They explore techniques for making meaningful connections, the significance of genuine interest in others, and how to influence people positively. The conversation emphasizes the need for sincerity and the art of listening, providing practical insights for personal and professional relationships.Building trust is essential for successful relationships.Adapting to others' needs enhances communication.Empathy is key in understanding others' perspectives.Offering value in conversations fosters connection.Nurturing relationships requires genuine interest.Dale Carnegie's principles remain relevant today.Listening actively can transform interactions.Remembering names makes people feel valued.Finding common ground strengthens relationships.Being genuinely interested in others is crucial for influence.00:00 Introduction to Master Happiness02:56 The Importance of Dale Carnegie05:52 Building Trust in Relationships09:01 Adapting to Others' Needs12:08 Communicating with Empathy14:57 Offering Value in Conversations18:05 Nurturing Relationships20:43 Dale Carnegie's Influence23:50 Techniques for Handling People27:00 Ways to Make People Like You29:47 Winning People to Your Way of Thinking31:46 Conclusion and Key Takeawayswww.MasterHappiness.comwww.WhatsYourBacon.comwww.BaconBitsRadio.com

Why are so many employees entering the workforce unsure of themselves, lacking confidence, and not quite ready to thrive? And with AI automating more tasks by the day, what should leaders actually be focusing on to future-proof their people? The world is flooded with information at the speed of light, yet starved of real connection and human skills. So how do we bridge the growing gap between soft skills and hard results? In this episode, Joe Hart, President and CEO of Dale Carnegie, joins us to unpack how to future-proof your workforce by re-centering on timeless human principles like empathy, trust, and communication. We explore why emotional and social intelligence, not technical expertise, will define leadership success in an AI-powered world. You'll learn how to better understand and lead across generations by shifting from judgment to curiosity, why building confidence and connection should be at the heart of your talent strategy, and why real growth starts with personal responsibility. Plus, we dive into how leaders can prepare Gen Z to be job-ready through more confidence-building and less criticism, and how to balance high-tech tools with high-touch leadership.   ________________ Start your day with the world's top leaders by joining thousands of others at Great Leadership on Substack. Just enter your email: ⁠⁠https://greatleadership.substack.com/

“When you're wrong, admit quickly and emphatically.” Dale Carnegie's sagewisdom remains as powerful today, as when he uttered them 90 years ago.Humility is an endearing human trait that is dissolving away in modern business.How about going a little “old school” to show customers you own your mistakes?Your buyers will reward your honesty and humility. Why? Because you are notblame-shifting like other vendors!Support the show

“If you want to gather honey don't kick over the bee hive.” – Dale Carnegie. In this episode we talk about exactly that - kicking the beehive. We will also continue on from last weeks episode, "Shtuff Happens Seek Higher Ground" where we talked about what seeking higher ground looks like--because as Ralph Waldo Emerson says, “If you would lift me up, you've got to be on higher ground.” The song we used for the intro was "Are You Happy" by Primitive Radio Gods. The ending song was "Make Someone Happy" by Jimmy Durante. We don't own any rights, but we love the songs! Contact usLinktree: www.Linktr.ee/HappyLifeStudiosEmail: Podcast@HappyLife.StudioYo Stevo Hotline: (425) 200-HAYS (4297)Webpage: www.HappyLife.lol YouTube: www.YouTube.com/StevoHaysLinkedin: www.linkedin.com/in/steve-hays-b6b1186b/TikTok: www.tiktok.com/@happylifestudiosFacebook: www.Facebook.com/HappyLifeStudios Instagram: www.Instagram.com/HappyLife_Studios Twitter: www.x.com/stevehays If you would like to help us spread the HappyPayPal: www.PayPal.me/StevoHaysCash App: $HappyLifeStudiosZelle: StevoHays@gmail.comVenmo: @StevoHaysBuy Me A Coffee: buymeacoffee.com/HappyLifeStudioCheck: Pls contact for details at stevohays@gmail.com

In today's episode, Dr. Killeen dives into one of the simplest but most powerful tools for connection—using someone's first name. Whether you're speaking with a patient, a teammate, or a family member, intentionally saying their name a few times can make a big impact. Inspired by a classic Dale Carnegie quote, this episode is a reminder that small gestures of respect and attention often carry the biggest weight. Try it today—and watch your connections grow stronger.To learn more about Dr. Killeen and his new book, The Shift, or to connect with him, check out www.AddisonKilleen.com.

“Manager and leader”? What's the difference. During my conversation this time with Scott Hanton, our guest, we will discuss this very point along with many other fascinating and interesting subjects. As Scott tells us at the beginning of this episode he grew up asking “why” about most anything you can think of. He always was a “why” asker. As he tells it, unlike many children who grow out of the phase of asking “why” he did not. He still asks “why” to this very day.   At the age of 13 Scott decided that he wanted to be a chemist. He tells us how this decision came about and why he has always stayed with it. Scott received his bachelor's degree in Chemistry from Michigan State and his PHD from the University of Wisconsin. Again, why he changed schools for his PHD work is an interesting story. As you will see, Scott tells stories in a unique and quite articulate way.   After his university days were over Scott went to work, yes as a chemist. He tells us about this and how after 20 years with one company how and why he moved to another company and somewhat out of constant lab work into some of the management, business and leadership side of a second company. He stayed there for ten years and was laid off during the pandemic. Scott then found employment as the editorial director of Lab Management Magazine where he got to bring his love of teaching to the forefront of his work.   My hour with Scott gives us all many insights into management, leadership and how to combine the two to create a strong teaming environment. I believe you will find Scott's thoughts extremely poignant and helpful in everything that you do.     About the Guest:   Scott Hanton is the Editorial Director of Lab Manager. He spent 30 years as a research chemist, lab manager, and business leader at Air Products and Intertek. Scott thrives on the challenges of problem-solving. He enjoys research, investigation, and collaboration. Scott is a people-centric, servant leader. He is motivated by developing environments where people can grow and succeed, and crafting roles for people that take advantage of their strengths.   Scott earned a BS in chemistry from Michigan State University and a PhD in physical chemistry from the University of Wisconsin-Madison. He is an active member of the American Chemical Society (ACS), the American Society of Mass Spectrometry (ASMS), and the Association of Lab Managers (ALMA). As a scientist Scott values curiosity, innovation, progress, and delivery of results. Scott has always been motivated by questions beginning with why. Studying physical chemistry in graduate school offered the opportunity to hone answers to these questions. As a professional scientist, Scott worked in analytical chemistry specializing in MALDI mass spectrometry and polymer characterization.   At Scott married his high school sweetheart, and they have one son. Scott is motivated by excellence, happiness, and kindness. He most enjoys helping people and solving problems. Away from work, Scott enjoys working outside in the yard, playing strategy games, and participating in different discussion groups.   Scott values having a growth mindset and is a life-long learner. He strives to learn something new everyday and from everyone. One of the great parts of being a trained research scientist is that failure really isn't part of his vocabulary. He experiments and either experiences success or learns something new. He values both individual and organizational learning.   Scott's current role at Lab Manager encompasses three major responsibilities: ·      Writing articles and giving presentations to share his experience with lab managers. ·      Driving the creation and growth of the Lab Manager Academy (https://labmanageracademy.com/) that currently contains three certificate programs: lab management, lab safety management, and lab quality management. ·      Helping people through his knowledge of science, scientists, management, and leadership. He is very happy sharing the accumulated wisdom of his experiences as a researcher, lab supervisor, and lab manager. Each article posted on Lab Manager addresses a decision that a lab manager needs to make. Lab management is full of decision-making, so helping people make better, faster, more complete decisions is very satisfying. Ways to connect with Scott:   https://www.linkedin.com/in/scott-hanton/   About the Host:   Michael Hingson is a New York Times best-selling author, international lecturer, and Chief Vision Officer for accessiBe. Michael, blind since birth, survived the 9/11 attacks with the help of his guide dog Roselle. This story is the subject of his best-selling book, Thunder Dog.   Michael gives over 100 presentations around the world each year speaking to influential groups such as Exxon Mobile, AT&T, Federal Express, Scripps College, Rutgers University, Children's Hospital, and the American Red Cross just to name a few. He is Ambassador for the National Braille Literacy Campaign for the National Federation of the Blind and also serves as Ambassador for the American Humane Association's 2012 Hero Dog Awards.   https://michaelhingson.com https://www.facebook.com/michael.hingson.author.speaker/ https://twitter.com/mhingson https://www.youtube.com/user/mhingson https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelhingson/   accessiBe Links https://accessibe.com/ https://www.youtube.com/c/accessiBe https://www.linkedin.com/company/accessibe/mycompany/ https://www.facebook.com/accessibe/       Thanks for listening!   Thanks so much for listening to our podcast! If you enjoyed this episode and think that others could benefit from listening, please share it using the social media buttons on this page. Do you have some feedback or questions about this episode? Leave a comment in the section below!   Subscribe to the podcast   If you would like to get automatic updates of new podcast episodes, you can subscribe to the podcast on Apple Podcasts or Stitcher. You can subscribe in your favorite podcast app. You can also support our podcast through our tip jar https://tips.pinecast.com/jar/unstoppable-mindset .   Leave us an Apple Podcasts review   Ratings and reviews from our listeners are extremely valuable to us and greatly appreciated. They help our podcast rank higher on Apple Podcasts, which exposes our show to more awesome listeners like you. If you have a minute, please leave an honest review on Apple Podcasts.       Transcription Notes:   Michael Hingson ** 00:00 Access Cast and accessiBe Initiative presents Unstoppable Mindset. The podcast where inclusion, diversity and the unexpected meet. Hi, I'm Michael Hingson, Chief Vision Officer for accessiBe and the author of the number one New York Times bestselling book, Thunder dog, the story of a blind man, his guide dog and the triumph of trust. Thanks for joining me on my podcast as we explore our own blinding fears of inclusion unacceptance and our resistance to change. We will discover the idea that no matter the situation, or the people we encounter, our own fears, and prejudices often are our strongest barriers to moving forward. The unstoppable mindset podcast is sponsored by accessiBe, that's a c c e s s i capital B e. Visit www.accessibe.com to learn how you can make your website accessible for persons with disabilities. And to help make the internet fully inclusive by the year 2025. Glad you dropped by we're happy to meet you and to have you here with us.   Michael Hingson ** 01:20 Well, welcome to another episode of unstoppable mindset where inclusion diversity and the unexpected meet, and mostly we get to deal with the unexpected, as opposed to inclusion or diversity. But that's okay, because unexpected is what makes life fun, and our guest today, Scott Hanton, will definitely be able to talk about that. Scott has been a research chemist. He comes from the chemistry world, so he and I in the past have compared notes, because, of course, I come from the physics world, and I love to tell people that the most important thing I learned about physics was that, unlike Doc Brown, although I do know how to build a bomb, unlike Doc Brown from Back to the Future, I'm not dumb enough to try to go steal fissionable material from a terrorist group to build the bomb. So, you know, I suppose that's a value, value lesson somewhere. But anyway, I am really glad that you're all here with us today, and we have lots to talk about. Scott, as I said, was in chemistry and research chemist, and now is the editorial supervisor and other things for a magazine called lab manager, and we will talk about that as well. So Scott, welcome to unstoppable mindset. We're glad   Scott Hanton ** 02:38 you're here. Thank you for having me. I'm excited to have this conversation with you today.   Michael Hingson ** 02:43 Well, I think it'll be a lot of fun, and looking forward to it. Now, you're in Michigan, right?   Scott Hanton ** 02:48 That's right. I live in South Lyon, Michigan,   Michael Hingson ** 02:51 ah, what's the weather back there today?   Scott Hanton ** 02:55 It's probably about 55 degrees and cloudy   Michael Hingson ** 02:58 here today. Well, it's still fairly sunny here, and we're actually, according to my iPhone, at 71 so it was up around 80 earlier in the week, but weather changes are still going to bring some cold for a while   Scott Hanton ** 03:15 in here in Michigan, I visited a customer earlier this week, and I drove by about 1000 orange barrels on the highway, which means it's spring, because there's only two seasons in Michigan, winter and construction.   Michael Hingson ** 03:29 There you go. Yeah, I know. I went to the University of California, Irvine, UCI. And if you ask somebody who doesn't know that UCI stands for University of California at Irvine. If you ask them what UCI stands for, they'll tell you, under construction indefinitely. Sounds right? Yeah. Well, it's been doing it ever since I was there a long time ago, and they they continue to grow. Now we're up to like 32,000 fresh, or excuse me, undergraduates at the university. And when I was there, there were 2700 students. So it's grown a little. That's   Scott Hanton ** 04:05 a lot of change. I'm used to big universities. I'm a graduate of both Michigan State and the University of Wisconsin. So these are big places.   Michael Hingson ** 04:13 Wow, yeah. So you're used to it. I really enjoyed it when it was a small campus. I'm glad I went there, and that was one of the reasons that caused me to go there, was because I knew I could probably get a little bit more visibility with instructors, and that would be helpful for me to get information when they didn't describe things well in class. And it generally worked out pretty well. So I can't complain a lot. Perfect. Glad it worked well for you, it did. Well, why don't you start, if you would, by telling us kind of about the early Scott growing up and all that sort of stuff.   Scott Hanton ** 04:49 I grew up in Michigan, in a town called Saginaw. I was blessed with a family that loved me and that, you know, I was raised in a very. Supportive environment. But young Scott asked, Why about everything you know, the way kids do? Yeah, right. And my mom would tell you that when I was a kid, why was my most favorite word? And most kids outgrow that. I never did, yeah, so Me neither. I still ask why all the time. It's still my most favorite word, and it caused me to want to go explore the sciences, because what I found, as I learned about science, was that I could get answers to why questions better in science than in other places.   Michael Hingson ** 05:34 Yeah, makes sense. So what kinds of questions did you ask about why? Well, I asked   Scott Hanton ** 05:43 all kinds of questions about why, like, why are we having that for dinner? Or, why is my bedtime so early? Those questions didn't have good answers, at least from my perspective, right? But I also asked questions like, why is grass green, and why is the sky blue? And studying physical chemistry at Michigan State answered those questions. And so   Michael Hingson ** 06:03 how early did you learn about Rayleigh scattering? But that's you know?   Scott Hanton ** 06:07 Well, I learned the basic concepts from a really important teacher in my life, Mr. Leeson was my seventh grade science teacher, and what I learned from him is that I could ask questions that weren't pertinent to what he was lecturing about, and that taught me a lot about the fact that science was a lot bigger than what we got in the curriculum or in the classroom. And so Mr. Leeson was a really important person in my development, and showed me that there was that science was a lot bigger than I thought it was as a student, but I didn't really learn about rally scattering until I got to college.   Michael Hingson ** 06:43 But at the same time, it sounds like he was willing to allow you to grow and and learn, which so many people aren't willing to do. They're too impatient.   Scott Hanton ** 06:58 He was a first year teacher the year I had him so he hadn't become cynical yet. So it was great to just be able to stay after class and ask him a question, or put my hand up in class and ask him a question. He also did a whole series of demonstrations that were fabulous and made the science come to life in a way that reading about it doesn't stir the imagination. Yeah,   Michael Hingson ** 07:23 I had teachers that did that too. I remember very well my freshman general science teacher in high school, Mr. Dills, and one day, and he loved to do kind of unique things, just to push the boundaries of students a little bit. He came in one day and he said, I got a pop quiz for everybody, which doesn't help me, because the pop quiz was in print, but he handed it out. And then he took me to the back of the room, and he said, You're not going to really be able to do this quiz. Let me tell you why. And he said, Oh, and one thing he said is, just be sure you follow all the instructions and you'll be fine on the test to everybody. He brought me back to the back of the room. He says, Well, here's the deal. He says, if people really read the instructions, what they'll do is they'll read the instruction that says, Read all the questions before you start answering, and if you get to the last question, it says answer only the first question, which is what is your name and and sure enough, of course, people didn't read the instructions. And he said, so I wouldn't be able to really deal with you with that one, with that whole thing, just because it wouldn't work well. And I said, I understand, but he loved to make students think, and I learned so much about the whole concept of realizing the need to observe and be observant in all that you do. And it was lessons like that from him that really helped a lot with that. For me,   Scott Hanton ** 08:48 I had a high school chemistry teacher named Mrs. Schultz, and the first experiment that we did in her class, in the first week of classes, was she wanted us to document all of the observations that we could make about a burning candle. And I was a hot shot student. Thought I, you know, owned the world, and I was going to ace this test. And, you know, I had maybe a dozen observations about a burning candle, and thought I had done a great job describing it, until she started sharing her list, and she probably had 80 observations about a burning candle, and it taught me the power of observation and the need to talk about the details of those observations and to be specific about what the observations were. And that experiment seems simple, light a candle and tell me what you see. Yeah, but that lesson has carried on with me now for more than approaching 50 years.   Michael Hingson ** 09:47 Let's see, as I recall, if you light a candle, what the center of the flame is actually pretty cool compared to the outside. It's more hollow. Now I wouldn't be able to easily tell that, because. Is my my process for observing doesn't really use eyesight to do that, so I I'm sure there are other technologies today that I could use to get more of that information. But   Scott Hanton ** 10:12 I'm also sure that that experiment could be re crafted so that it wasn't so visual, yeah, right, that there could be tactile experiments to tell me about observations or or audible experiments about observation, where you would excel in ways that I would suffer because I'm so visually dominant. The   Michael Hingson ** 10:33 issue, though, is that today, there's a lot more technology to do that than there was when I was in school and you were in school, but yeah, I think there is a lot available. There's a company called Independence Science, which is actually owned and run by Dr Cary sapollo. And Carrie is blind, and he is a blind chemist, and he wanted to help develop products for blind people to be able to deal with laboratory work. So he actually worked with a company that was, well, it's now Vernier education systems. They make a product called LabQuest with something like 80 different kinds of probes that you can attach to it, and the LabQuest will will provide visual interpretations of whatever the probes are showing carry, and independent science took that product and made it talk, so that There is now a Talking LabQuest. And the reality is that all those probes became usable because the LabQuest became accessible to be able to do that, and they put a lot of other things into it too. So it's more than just as a talking device, a lab device. It's got a periodic table in it. It's got a lot of other kinds of things that they just put in it as well. But it's really pretty cool because it now makes science a whole lot more accessible. I'm going to have to think about the different kinds of probes and how one could use that to look at a candle. I think that'd be kind of fun.   Scott Hanton ** 12:15 And it's just awesome to hear that there's innovation and space to make science more available to everybody. Yeah,   Michael Hingson ** 12:23 the real problem that we face is the one that we mostly always have faced, which is societal attitudes, as opposed to really being or not being able to do the experiments, is people think we can't, and that's the barrier that we always, usually have to overcome.   Scott Hanton ** 12:39 What I find in my time as a coach, mentor, supervisor, is that if somebody believes they can't do it, they can't do it. Yeah. And so it's often about overcoming their own mental limitations, the limitations that they've placed on themselves,   Michael Hingson ** 12:56 and that's right, or unfortunately, the limitations that other people place on us, and we, all too often and weigh too much, buy into those limitations. So it's it is something that we, especially in the sciences, should recognize that we shouldn't be doing so much of. I know that when I was at UC Irvine as a graduate student, I learned once that there was a letter in my file that a professor wrote. Fortunately, I never had him as a professor, but it and I was in my master's program at the time in physics, and this guy put a letter in my file saying that no blind person could ever absorb the material to get an advanced degree in physics at the University. Just put that in there, which is so unfortunate, because the real thing that is demonstrated there is a prejudice that no scientist should ever have.   Scott Hanton ** 13:51 I'm hopeful that as you graduated, there was a retraction letter in your file as well,   Michael Hingson ** 13:57 not that I ever heard, but yeah. Well, I'd already gotten my bachelor's degree, but yeah. But you know, things happen, but it is a it is a societal thing, and society all too often creates limitations, and sometimes we don't find them right away, but it is one of the big issues that, in general, we have to deal with. And on all too often, society does some pretty strange things because it doesn't understand what science is all about. I know when we were dealing with covid, when it all started, leaving the conspiracy theorists out of it. One of the things that I learned was that we have all these discussions about AI, if you will. But AI was one of the primary mechanisms that helped to develop the mRNA vaccines that are now still the primary things that we use to get vaccinated against covid, because they the artificial intelligence. I'm not sure how artificial. It is, but was able to craft what became the vaccine in a few days. And scientists acknowledged, if they had to do it totally on their own, it would take years to have done what AI did in a few days.   Scott Hanton ** 15:13 The AI technology is amazing and powerful, but it's not new. No, I met a person who shared her story about AI investigations and talked about what she was doing in this field 30 years ago. Yeah, in her master's work. And you know, I knew it wasn't brand new, but I didn't really realize how deep its roots went until I talked to her.   Michael Hingson ** 15:37 I worked as my first jobs out of college with Ray Kurzweil, who, of course, nowadays, is well known for the singularity and so on. But back then, he developed the first reading machine that blind people could use to read printed material. And one of the things that he put into that machine was the ability, as it scanned more material, to learn and better recognize the material. And so he was doing machine learning back in the 1970s   Scott Hanton ** 16:07 right? And all of this is, you know, as Newton said on the shoulders of giants, right, right? He said it a bit cynically, but it's still true that we all in science, we are learning from each other. We're learning from the broader community, and we're integrating that knowledge as we tackle the challenges that we are exploring.   Michael Hingson ** 16:27 So what got you to go into chemistry when you went into college?   Scott Hanton ** 16:33 That's a good question. So when I was 13 years old, I went on a youth a church group youth trip to another city, and so they split us up, and there were three of us from our group that stayed overnight in a host family. And at dinner that night, the father worked in a pharmaceutical company, and he talked about the work he was doing, and what he was doing was really synthetic chemistry around small molecule drug discovery. And for me, it was absolutely fascinating. I was thrilled at that information. I didn't know any scientists growing up, I had no adult input other than teachers about science, and I can remember going back home and my parents asking me how the trip went. And it's like, it's fantastic. I'm going to be a chemist. And they both looked at me like, what is that? How do you make money from it? How do you get that? My dad was a banker. My mom was a school teacher. They had no scientific background, but that that one conversation, such serendipity, right? One conversation when I was 13 years old, and I came home and said, I'm going to be a chemist, and I've never really deviated from that path. Did you have other siblings? Younger brother and another younger sister?   Michael Hingson ** 17:54 Okay? Did they go into science by any remote chance?   Scott Hanton ** 17:58 Not at all. So they were both seventh grade teachers for more than 30 years. So my brother taught math and English, and my sister teaches social studies.   Michael Hingson ** 18:10 Well, there you go. But that is also important. I actually wanted to teach physics, but jobs and other things and circumstances took me in different directions, but I think the reality is that I ended up going into sales. And what I realized, and it was partly because of a Dale Carnegie sales course I took, but I realized that good sales people are really teachers, because they're really teaching people about products or about things, and they're also sharp enough to recognize what their products might or might not do to help a customer. But that, again, not everyone does that, but so I figure I still was teaching, and today, being a public speaker, traveling the world, talking, of course, about teamwork and other things, it's still all about teaching.   Scott Hanton ** 18:57 I think I've always been a teacher, and if you talk to my coworkers along the way, I enjoy helping people. I enjoy sharing my knowledge. There's always been a teacher inside but only in this job as the editorial director at lab manager have I really been able to do it directly. So we've developed what we call the lab manager Academy, and I create e learning courses to help lab managers be more successful, and it's been a passion project for me, and it's been a load of fun.   Michael Hingson ** 19:30 And it doesn't get better than that. It's always great when it's a load of fun, yes,   Scott Hanton ** 19:35 well, so you left college and you got a bachelor's and a master's degree, right? No masters for me, that step you went right to the old PhD, yeah. So I went straight. I went graduated from Michigan State. So Michigan State was on terms back in those days. So graduated in June, got married in July, moved to Wisconsin in August. To graduate school at the end of August at the University of Wisconsin. Okay? And my second year as a graduate student, my professor asked me, Do you want to stop and complete a master's? And I said, Wait, tell me about this word stop. And he said, Well, you'd have to finish the Master's requirements and write a thesis, and that's going to take some time. And I said, Do I have to and he said, No, and I don't recommend it. Just keep going forward and finish your PhD. So that's   Michael Hingson ** 20:30 and what does your wife do?   Scott Hanton ** 20:33 So my wife also is in the graduate program at the University of Wisconsin, and she decided that a master's degree was the right answer for her, because she didn't want to be a PhD scientist in XYZ narrow band of science. She wanted to be a master of chemistry. Okay, and so we took different paths through graduate school, but each of us took the path that worked best for us, and each pass has great value, so we're both happy with the choices that we made,   Michael Hingson ** 21:06 and complement each other and also give you, still lots of great things to talk about over dinner.   Scott Hanton ** 21:12 Absolutely. And she took that master's degree, went into the pharmaceutical industry and largely behaved as a librarian in her first part of her career, she wasn't called a librarian, but what she really did was a lot of information integrating, and then moved into the Library Group, and was a corporate librarian for a long time, and then a community librarian. So that path worked brilliantly for her. She also has a Masters of Library Science. So I have one PhD. She has two Master's degree. I have one bachelor's degree. She has two bachelor's degree.   Michael Hingson ** 21:50 Oh, so you can have interesting discussions about who really progressed further,   21:54 absolutely.   Michael Hingson ** 21:57 Well, that's, that's, that's cute, though. Well, I I got my bachelor's and master's. My wife, who I didn't meet until years later, wanted to be a librarian, but she ended up getting a a Master's at USC in so in sociology and and ended up getting a teaching credential and going into teaching, and taught for 10 years, and then she decided she wanted to do something different, and became a travel agent, which she had a lot of fun with. That is different, it is, but she enjoyed it, and along the way, then we got married. It was a great marriage. She was in a wheelchair her whole life. So she read, I pushed, worked out well, complimentary skills, absolutely, which is the way, way it ought to be, you know, and we had a lot of fun with it. Unfortunately, she passed now two and a half years ago, but as I tell people, we were married 40 years, and I'm sure she's monitoring me from somewhere, and if I misbehave, I'm going to hear about it, so I try to just behave. Sounds like good advice. Yeah, probably certainly the safe way to go. But we, we, we had lots of neat discussions, and our our activities and our expertise did, in a lot of ways, complement each other, so it was a lot of fun. And as I said, she went to USC. I enjoyed listening to USC football because I thought that that particular college team had the best announcers in the business, least when when I was studying in Southern California, and then when we got married, we learned the the day we got married, the wedding was supposed to start at four, and it didn't start till later because people weren't showing up for the wedding. And we learned that everybody was sitting out in their cars waiting for the end of the USC Notre Dame game. And we knew that God was on our side when we learned that SC beat the snot out of Notre Dame. So there you go. Yeah. Yeah. Oh gosh, the rivalries we face. So what did you do after college?   Scott Hanton ** 24:09 So did my PhD at the University of Wisconsin. And one of the nice things, a fringe benefit of going to a big, important program to do your PhD, is that recruiters come to you. And so I was able to do 40 different, four, zero, 40 different interviews on campus without leaving Madison. And one of those interviews was with a company called Air Products. And that worked out, and they hired me. And so we moved to Allentown, Pennsylvania to go to work. I went to work at Air Products and and Helen found a role in the pharmaceutical industry at Merck. And so we did that for a long time. I was initially a research expert, a PhD expert doing lasers and materials and analytical stuff. And over the years. I progressed up the ladder from researcher to supervisor to what did we call it, group head to Section Manager, to operations manager, and ultimately to General Manager.   Michael Hingson ** 25:13 Well, at least being in Allentown, you were close to a Cracker Barrel restaurant. Yes, that is true. That was the closest to one to where we lived in New Jersey, so we visited it several times. That's how I know   Scott Hanton ** 25:26 about it. Maybe we were there at the same time. Michael, maybe this isn't our first. It's   Michael Hingson ** 25:31 very possible. But we enjoyed Cracker Barrel and enjoyed touring around Pennsylvania. So I should have asked, What prompted you to go to the University of Wisconsin to do your your graduate work, as opposed to staying in Michigan. So   Scott Hanton ** 25:47 my advisor at Michigan State, our advisor at Michigan State, told us, here's the top five schools, graduate programs in chemistry, apply to them all. Go to the one you get into. And so I got into three. Helen got into two. The one that was the same was Wisconsin. So that's where we went, yeah?   Michael Hingson ** 26:09 Well, then no better logic and argument than that.   Scott Hanton ** 26:14 It was a great Madison. Wisconsin is a beautiful city. It one of the things I really liked about the chemistry program there then, and it's still true now, is how well the faculty get along together so many collaborative projects and just friendliness throughout the hallways. And yes, they are all competing at some level for grant support, but they get along so well, and that makes it for a very strong community,   Michael Hingson ** 26:41 and it probably also means that oftentimes someone who's applying for something can enlist support from other people who are willing to help.   Scott Hanton ** 26:50 And as a graduate student, it meant that I had more than one professor that I could go to my advisor. There was a whole group of advisors who ran joint group meetings and would give us advice about our work or our writing or our approach, or just because we needed a pep talk, because completing a PhD is hard. Yeah, right, so that community was really important to me, and it's something I took away that when I started my industrial career, I had seen the value of community, and I wanted to build stronger communities wherever I went, yeah.   Michael Hingson ** 27:26 So what does a company, does air products do   Scott Hanton ** 27:31 that's sort of in the name, right? They're an industrial gas company. Got some of their big, biggest products are taking air and separating it into its components of nitrogen, oxygen, oxygen, argon, whatever, right? But at that time, they also had a chemicals business and a semiconductor business, or electronics business. So there was a lot of chemistry going on, although a lot of my work colleagues were chemical engineers who were working on the gasses side of the business, we had significant number of chemistry, sorts material science, sorts of people who are working on the chemicals side. Now, over time, Air Products divested those businesses, and now it's much more of a true industrial gas company. But I had the opportunity to work in an integrated science company that did all sorts of things.   Michael Hingson ** 28:23 Yeah, and as as we know, certainly a little helium never hurt anyone.   Scott Hanton ** 28:30 No little helium, you know, raises people's spirits, it   Michael Hingson ** 28:34 does and their voices, it does. I I've visited helium tanks many times at UC Irvine when they had liquid helium, which was certainly a challenge because of how cold it had to be. But occasionally we would open a valve and little cold but useful helium gas would escape   Scott Hanton ** 28:56 very cold. Please be safe. Cryogens are are dangerous materials, and we gotta make sure we handle them with due respect.   Michael Hingson ** 29:05 Yeah, well, we, we all did and and didn't take too many chances. So it worked out pretty well. So you stayed in Allentown and you stayed with Air Products for how long   Scott Hanton ** 29:19 I was in Air Products for 20 years. So the analytical group that I was part of, we were about 92 or 93 people when I joined the company, when I just left after earning my PhD. After 20 years, that group was down to about 35 just progressive series of decisions that made the department smaller, and as the Department got smaller and smaller, we were worried about our abilities to sustain our work. And so a dear friend and a key colleague, Paula McDaniel, and I, worked to try to see what other kind of opportunities there were. Yeah. And so we reached out to a contract research organization called Intertech to see if they would be interested in maybe acquiring our analytical department. And when we called them, and by the way, we called them before we talked to our boss about it, she forgave us later, but when we called the guy on the end of the phone said, Wait a minute, let me get your file. And it's like, what you have a file on Air Products, analytical, really? Why? Well, it turned out that they had a file, and that they had an active Merger and Acquisition Group, and they wanted an integrated analytical department on the east coast of the US. And so we engaged in negotiation, and ultimately this analytical department was sold by Air Products to Intertech. So on Friday, we're a little cog in a giant engine of an global, international company, and our funding comes from Vice Presidents. And on Monday, we're a standalone business of 35 people, we need to write quotes in order to make money. So it was an enormous challenge to transition from a service organization to a business. But oh my goodness, did we learn a lot,   Michael Hingson ** 31:13 certainly a major paradigm shift,   Scott Hanton ** 31:18 and I was lucky that I lost the coin flip, and Paula won, and she said, I want to be business development director. And I said, thank God. So she went off to be the key salesperson, and Paula was utterly brilliant as a technical salesperson, and I became the operations manager, which allowed me to keep my hands dirty with the science and to work with the scientists and to build a system and a community that allowed us to be successful in a CRO world.   Michael Hingson ** 31:49 So at that time, when you became part, part of them, the new company, were you or the standalone business? Were you working in lab? Still yourself?   Scott Hanton ** 32:01 Yes. So I had the title Operations Manager and all of the scientific staff reported into me, but I was still the technical expert in some mass spectrometry techniques, particularly MALDI and also tough Sims, and so I still had hands on lab responsibility that I needed to deliver. And over time, I was able to train some people to take some of those responsibilities off. But when the weight of the world was particularly heavy, the place for me to go was in the lab and do some experiments.   Michael Hingson ** 32:34 Yeah, still so important to be able to keep your hand in into to know and understand. I know I had that same sort of need being the manager of an office and oftentimes working with other people who were the engineers, coming from a little bit of a technical background as well. I worked to always make sure I knew all I could about the products that I was dealing with and selling, and my sales people who worked for me constantly asked, How come, you know, all this stuff, and we don't then, my response always was, did you read the product bulletin that came out last week? Or have you kept up on the product bulletins? Because it's all right there, whether I actually physically repaired products or not, I knew how to do it. And so many times when I was involved in working with some of our engineers, I remember a few times our field support people, and we were working out of New Jersey, and then in New York at the time, in the World Trade Center, we had some customers up at Lockheed Martin, up in Syria, Rochester, I think it was. And the guys would go up, and then they'd call me on the phone, and we'd talk about it, and between us, we came up with some bright ideas. And I remember one day, all of a sudden, I get this phone call, and these guys are just bouncing off the walls, because whatever it was that was going on between them and me, we figured it out, and they put it in play and made it work, and they were all just as happy as clams at high tide, which is the way it ought to   Scott Hanton ** 34:13 be. It's great to work in a team that finds success. The longer I was in technical management, the more I enjoyed the success of the team. It didn't need to be my success anymore that helping the scientists be successful in their roles was truly satisfying,   Michael Hingson ** 34:33 and that helped you, by definition, be more successful in your role.   Scott Hanton ** 34:36 And no question, it could be seen as a selfish byproduct, but the fact is that it still felt really good.   Michael Hingson ** 34:43 Yeah, I hear you, because I know for me, I never thought about it as I've got to be successful. It's we've got problems to solve. Let's do it together. And I always told people that we're a team. And I have told every salesperson. I ever hired. I'm not here to boss you around. You've convinced me that you should be able to sell our products, and sometimes I found that they couldn't. But I said my job is to work with you to figure out how I can enhance what you do, and what skills do I bring to add value to you, because we've got to work together, and the people who understood that and who got it were always the most successful people that I ever had in my teams.   Scott Hanton ** 35:30 One of the things I strive to do as a leader of any organization is to understand the key strengths of the people on the team and to try to craft their roles in such a way that they spend the majority of their time executing their strengths. Yeah. I've also discovered that when I truly investigate poor performance, there's often a correlation between poor performance and people working in their weaknesses. Yeah, and if we can shift those jobs, change those roles, make change happen so that people can work more often in their strengths, then good things happen.   Michael Hingson ** 36:07 And if you can bring some of your skills into the mix and augment what they do, so much the better.   Scott Hanton ** 36:16 Yeah, because I'm just another member of the team, my role is different, but I need to also apply my strengths to the problems and be wary of my weaknesses, because as the leader of the organization, my words carried undue weight. Yeah, and if, if I was speaking or acting in a space where I was weak, people would still do what I said, because I had the most authority, and that was just a lose, lose proposition   Michael Hingson ** 36:43 by any standard. And and when you, when you operated to everyone's strengths, it always was a win. Yep, which is so cool. So you went to Intertech, and how long were you there?   Scott Hanton ** 36:57 I was at Intertech for 10 years, and work I can if you know, for any listeners out there who work in the CRO world, it is a tough business. It is a grind working in that business, yeah? So it was a lot of long hours and testy customers and shortages of materials and equipment that was a hard a hard a hard road to plow,   Michael Hingson ** 37:22 yeah, yeah, it gets to be frustrating. Sometimes it's what you got to do, but it still gets to be frustrating gets to be a challenge. The best part   Scott Hanton ** 37:32 for me was I had a great team. We had senior and junior scientists. They were good people. They worked hard. They fundamentally, they cared about the outcomes. And so it was a great group of people to work with. But the contract lab business is a tough business. Yeah, so when covid came, you know, the pandemic settles in, all the restrictions are coming upon us. I was tasked as the General Manager of the business with setting up all the protocols, you know, how are we going to meet the number of people this basing the masks, you know, how could we work with and we were essential as a lab, so we had to keep doing what we were doing. And it took me about a week to figure non stop work to figure out what our protocols were going to be, and the moment I turned them into my boss, then I got laid off. So what you want to do in a time of crisis is you want to let go of the the general manager, the safety manager, the quality manager and the Chief Scientist, because those are four people that you don't need during times of stress or challenge or crisis. On the plus side for me, getting laid off was a bad hour. It hurt my pride, but after an hour, I realized that all the things that I'd been stressing about for years trying to run this business were no longer my problem. Yeah, and I found that it was a tremendous weight lifted off my shoulders to not feel responsible for every problem and challenge that that business had.   Michael Hingson ** 39:14 And that's always a good blessing when you when you figure that out and don't worry about the the issues anymore. That's a good thing. It was certainly   Scott Hanton ** 39:25 good for me. Yeah, so I'm not going to recommend that people go get laid off. No world to get fired. But one problem that I had is because Paula and I worked to create that business, I sort of behaved like an owner, but was treated like an employee. And my recommendation to people is, remember, you're an employee, find some personal boundaries that protect you from the stress of the business, because you're not going to be rewarded or treated like an owner.   Michael Hingson ** 39:58 Yeah, because you're not because. Or not.   Scott Hanton ** 40:01 So I got laid off. It was in the height of the pandemic. So, you know, I'm too busy of a human being to sort of sit in a rocking chair and watch the birds fly by. That's not my style or my speed. So I started a consulting business, and that was a lot of fun. I really enjoyed doing the consulting work, but I learned something really important about myself, and that's that while I can sell and I can be an effective salesperson, I don't like selling, and as a company of one, when I didn't sell, I didn't make any money, yeah, and so I needed to figure out something else to do, because I really hated selling, and I wasn't doing it. I was procrastinating, and that made the business be unpredictable and very choppy   Michael Hingson ** 40:51 in that company of one, that guy who was working for you wasn't really doing all that you wanted.   Scott Hanton ** 40:56 Exactly the Yeah, you know me as the founder, was giving me as the salesman, a poor performance review was not meeting objectives. So I had a long time volunteer relationship with lab manager magazine. I had been writing articles for them and speaking for them in webinars and in conferences for a long time, probably more than 10 years, I would say, and they asked me as a consultant to produce a a to a proposal to create the lab manager Academy. So the the founder and owner of the the company, the lab X Media Group, you really saw the value of an academy, and they needed it done. They needed it done. They couldn't figure it out themselves. So I wrote the proposal. I had a good idea of how to do it, but I was new to consulting, and I struggled with, how do I get paid for this? And I had four ideas, but I didn't like them, so I slept on it, and in the morning I had a fifth, which said, hire me full time. I sent in the proposal. An hour later, I had a phone call. A week later, I had a job, so that worked out fantastic. And I've really enjoyed my time at lab manager magazine. Great people, fun work. It's really interesting to me to be valued for what I know rather than for what I can do. Yeah,   Michael Hingson ** 42:23 the two relate. But still, it does need to be more about what you know, what you really bring, as opposed to what you can do, because what you can do in general probably is an offshoot of what you know.   Scott Hanton ** 42:38 So this gives me the opportunity to help lots of people. So on the outside of the company, I'm writing articles, creating courses, giving talks to help lab managers. Because I was a lab manager for a long time, yeah, over 20 years, and I know what those challenges are. I know how hard that job is, and I know how many decisions lab managers need to make, and it's wonderful to be able to share my experience and help them, and I am motivated to help them. So was it hard? Oh, go ahead, on the inside, I'm literally an internal subject matter expert, and so I can coach and teach and help my colleagues with what's the science? What do lab managers really think? How do we pitch this so that it resonates with lab managers, and I think that helps make all of our products better and more successful.   Michael Hingson ** 43:31 So was it hard? Well, I guess best way to put it is that, was it really hard to switch from being a scientist to being a lab manager and then going into being a subject matter expert and really out of the laboratory. So   Scott Hanton ** 43:48 people ask me all the time, Scott, don't you miss being in the lab and doing experiments? And my answer is, I miss being in the lab. And I do miss being in the lab. You know, on very stressful days at Intertech, I'd go in the lab and I'd do an experiment, yeah, because it was fun, and I had more control over the how the experiment was run and what I would learn from it than I did running a business. But the flip side of that is, I do experiments all the time. What I learned as the general manager of a business was the scientific method works. Let's data hypothesis. Let's figure out how to test it. Let's gather data, and let's see if the hypothesis stands or falls. And we ran a business that way, I think, pretty successfully. And even now, in in media and publishing, we still run experiments all the time. And it's kind of funny that most of my editorial colleagues that I work with, they think my favorite word is experiment. My favorite word is still why, but we talk all the time now about doing experiments, and that was a new thing for them, but now we can do continual improvement more in a more dedicated way, and we do it a lot faster. Yeah,   Michael Hingson ** 45:00 yeah. So what's the hardest thing you think about being a lab manager?   Scott Hanton ** 45:06 I think the hardest thing about let me answer that with two. I'm not going to be able to narrow it down to one, so I'll give you two. The first one is you transform, maybe one day to the next, from really being in control of your science and working with whether it's animals or rocks or electrons or chemicals, whatever you're working with, having a great degree of knowledge and a lot of control, and the next day, you're hurting cats. And so it's about that transition from having control over your destiny to influencing people to get the work done, and working with people instead of working with experiments, that's really hard. The second is, as a lab manager, there's endless decisions, and so combating decision fatigue is a big deal, and everybody in the lab depends upon you for the decisions you make. And it's not that every decision has to be perfect, you know, that's just a different failure mode if you try to make perfect decisions, but every decision needs to be made promptly. And as a scientist, I could always make more data in order to make a better decision, but as a lab manager, I would often only have maybe 40 or 50% of the data I wanted, and a decision had to be made. And getting comfortable making decisions in the face of uncertainty is really hard.   Michael Hingson ** 46:29 So certainly, being a lab manager or Well, dealing with managers in the way we're talking about it here, has to be very stressful. How do you how do you cope with the stress?   Scott Hanton ** 46:42 So I think ways to cope with the stress successfully is, first of all, you've got to take care of yourself. You know, we've all flown on airplanes, and what is the safety person in the aisle or on the video? Do oxygen masks will fall from the ceiling, and what do we do with them? We put them on before we help somebody else, right? We all know that. But in the workplace, especially as a manager, it's hard to remember that as we care for our team and try and take care of our team, there might not be enough time or energy or capacity left to take care of ourselves, but if we don't fill that gas tank every day doing something, then we can't help our team. And so one way to deal with the stress is to make sure that you take care of yourself. So   Michael Hingson ** 47:28 what do you do? How do you deal with that? So   Scott Hanton ** 47:31 for me, ways that I can reinvigorate is one. I like being outside and get my hands dirty. So I'm not really a gardener, but I call myself a yard dinner. So I grow grass and I grow flowers, and I trim trees, and I want to go outside, and I want to see immediate return on my effort, and I want it to be better than when I started. And it's good if I have to clean from under my fingernails when I'm doing it. Another thing I like to do is I play all kinds of games I'm happy to play, sorry, with little kids, or I'll play complicated strategy games with people who want to sit at a table for three or four hours at a time. Yeah? And that allows my brain to spin and to work but on something completely different. Yeah. And another thing that's been important for me, especially when I was a lab manager is to be involved in youth coaching, so I coached kids soccer and basketball and baseball teams, and it's just beautiful to be out there on a field with a ball, with kids. And you know, the worries of the world just aren't there. The kids don't know anything about them. And it's fun to work with the ones who are really good, but it's equally fun to work with the ones who have never seen the ball before, and to help them do even the most basic things. And that kind of giving back and paying it forward, that sort of stuff fills my tank.   Michael Hingson ** 48:51 Yeah, I empathize a lot with with that. For me, I like to read. I've never been much of a gardener, but I also collect, as I mentioned before, old radio shows, and I do that because I'm fascinated by the history and all the things I learned from what people did in the 2030s, 40s and 50s, being on radio, much Less getting the opportunity to learn about the technical aspects of how they did it, because today it's so different in terms of how one edits, how one processes and deals with sounds and so on, but it's but it's fun to do something just totally different than way maybe what your normal Job would be, and and I do love to interact with with people. I love to play games, too. I don't get to do nearly as much of it as I'd like, but playing games is, is a lot of fun,   Scott Hanton ** 49:52 and I agree, and it it's fun, it's diverting, it's it helps me get into a flow so that I'm focused on. Me on one thing, and I have no idea how much time has gone by, and I don't really care. You know, people who play games with me might question this. I don't really care if I win or lose. Certainly I want to win, but it's more important to me that I play well, and if somebody plays better, good for   Michael Hingson ** 50:14 them, great. You'll learn from it. Exactly. Do you play   Scott Hanton ** 50:18 chess? I have played chess. I've played a lot of chess. What I've learned with chess is that I'm not an excellent I'm a good player, but not an excellent player. And when I run into excellent players, they will beat me without even breaking a sweat.   Michael Hingson ** 50:34 And again, in theory, you learn something from that.   Scott Hanton ** 50:37 What I found is that I don't really want to work that hard and yeah. And so by adding an element of chance or probability to the game, the people who focus on chess, where there are known answers and known situations, they get thrown off by the uncertainty of the of the flip the card or roll the dice. And my brain loves that uncertainty, so I tend to thrive. Maybe it's from my time in the lab with elements of uncertainty, where the chess players wilt under elements of uncertainty, and it's again, it's back to our strengths, right? That's something that I'm good at, so I'm gonna go do it. I've   Michael Hingson ** 51:20 always loved Trivial Pursuit. That's always been a fun game that I enjoy playing. I   Scott Hanton ** 51:25 do love Trivial Pursuit. I watch Jeopardy regularly. A funny story, when we moved into our new house in Pennsylvania, it was a great neighborhood. Loved the neighbors there. When we first moved in, they invited my wife and I to a game night. Excellent. We love games. We're going to play Trivial Pursuit. Awesome like Trivial Pursuit. We're going to play as couples. Bad idea, right? Let's play boys against the girls, or, let's say, random draws. No, we're playing as couples. Okay, so we played as couples. Helen and I won every game by a large margin. We were never invited back for game night. Yeah, invited back for lots of other things, but not game night.   Michael Hingson ** 52:06 One of the things that, and I've talked about it with people on this podcast before, is that all too often, when somebody reads a question from a trivial pursuit card, an answer pops in your head, then you went, Oh, that was too easy. That can't be the right answer. So you think about it, and you answer with something else, but invariably, that first answer was always the correct answer.   Scott Hanton ** 52:32 Yes, I'm I have learned to trust my intuition. Yeah. I learned, as a research scientist, that especially in talking to some of my peers, who are very dogmatic, very step by step scientists. And they lay out the 20 steps to that they felt would be successful. And they would do one at a time, one through 20. And that made them happy for me, I do one and two, and then I'd predict where that data led me, and I do experiment number seven, and if it worked, I'm off to eight. And so I they would do what, one step at a time, one to 20, and I'd sort of do 127, 1420, yeah. And that I learned that that intuition was powerful and valuable, and I've learned to trust it. And in my lab career, it served me really well. But also as a manager, it has served me well to trust my intuition, and at least to listen to it. And if I need to analyze it, I can do that, but I'm going to listen to it,   Michael Hingson ** 53:31 and that's the important thing, because invariably, it's going to give you useful information, and it may be telling you not what to do, but still trusting it and listening to it is so important, I've found that a lot over the years,   Scott Hanton ** 53:47 Malcolm Gladwell wrote a book called Blink, where he talks about the power of the subconscious, and his claim is that the subconscious is 100,000 times smarter than our conscious brain, and I think when we are trusting our intuition, we're tapping into that super computer that's in our skulls. If you want to learn more, read blank. It's a great story.   Michael Hingson ** 54:10 I hear you. I agree. How can people learn to be better leaders and managers?   Scott Hanton ** 54:18 So I think it's there's really three normal ways that people do this. One is the power of experiment, right? And I did plenty of that, and I made tons of errors. It's painful. It's irritating, trial and error, but I used to tell people at Intertech that I was the general manager because I'd made the most mistakes, which gave me the most opportunity to learn. It was also partly because a lot of my peers wanted nothing to do with the job. You know, they wanted to be scientists. Another way is we, we get coached and mentored by people around us, and that is awesome if you have good supervisors, and it's tragic if you have bad supervisors, because you don't know any better and you take for granted. That the way it's been done is the way it needs to be done, and that prevents us from being generative leaders and questioning the status quo. So there's problems there, too. And I had both good and bad supervisors during my career. I had some awful, toxic human beings who were my supervisors, who did damage to me, and then I had some brilliant, caring, empathetic people who raised me up and helped me become the leader that I am today. So it's a bit of a crap shoot. The third way is go out and learn it from somebody who's done it right, and that's why we generated the lab manager Academy to try to codify all the mistakes I made and what are the learnings from them? And when I'm talking with learners who are in the program, it's we have a huge positive result feedback on our courses. And what I talk to people about who take our courses is I'm glad you appreciate what we've put together here. That makes me feel good. I'm glad it's helping you. But when these are my mistakes and the answers to my mistakes, when you make mistakes, you need to in the future, go make some courses and teach people what the lessons were from your mistakes and pay it forward. Yeah. So I recommend getting some training.   Michael Hingson ** 56:17 What's the difference between management and leadership?   Scott Hanton ** 56:21 I particularly love a quote from Peter Drucker. So Peter Drucker was a professor in California. You may have heard of him before.   Michael Hingson ** 56:29 I have. I never had the opportunity to meet him, but I read.   Scott Hanton ** 56:34 I didn't either material. I've read his books, and I think he is an insightful human being, yes. So the quote goes like this, management is doing things right. Leadership is doing the right things. So as a technical manager, there's a bunch of things we have to get right. We have to get safety right. We have to get quality right. There's an accuracy and precision that we need to get right for our outcomes and our results. Those are management tasks, but leadership is about doing the right things. And the interesting thing about that definition is it doesn't require a title or a role or any level of authority. So anyone can be a leader if you're consistently doing the right things, you are exhibiting leadership, and that could be from the person sweeping the floors or the person approving the budget, or anyone in between.   Michael Hingson ** 57:33 Yeah, I've heard that quote from him before, and absolutely agree with it. It makes a whole lot of sense.   Scott Hanton ** 57:41 Other definitions that I've seen trying to distinguish management and leadership tend to use the words manage and lead, and I don't like definitions that include the words that they're trying to define. They become circular at some level. This one, I think, is clear about it, what its intention is, and for me, it has worked through my career, and so the separation is valuable. I have authority. I'm the manager. I have accountability to get some stuff right, but anyone can lead, and everyone can lead, and the organization works so much better when it's full of leaders   Michael Hingson ** 58:21 and leaders who are willing to recognize when they bring something to the table, or if someone else can add value in ways that they can't, to be willing to let the other individual take the leadership position for a while.   Scott Hanton ** 58:40 Absolutely, and you know that really comes down to building an environment and a culture that's supportive. And so Amy Edmondson has written extensively on the importance of psychological safety, and that psychological safety hinges on what you just said, right? If the guy who sweeps the floor has an observation about the organization. Do they feel safe to go tell the person in charge that this observation, and if they feel safe, and if that leader is sufficiently vulnerable and humble to listen with curiosity about that observation, then everybody benefits, yeah, and the more safe everyone feels. We think about emotion. Emotional safety is they anyone can bring their best self to work, and psychological safety is they can contribute their ideas and observations with no threat of retaliation, then we have an environment where we're going to get the best out of everybody, yeah,   Michael Hingson ** 59:46 which is the way it it really ought to be. And all too often we don't necessarily see it, but that is the way it ought   Scott Hanton ** 59:53 to be. Too many people are worried about credit, or, I don't know, worried about things that I don't see. Yeah, and they waste human potential, right? They they don't open their doors to hire anybody. They they judge people based on what they look like instead of who they are, or they box people in into roles, and don't let them flourish and Excel. And whenever you're doing those kinds of things, you're wasting human potential. And businesses, science and business are too hard to waste human potential. We need to take advantage of everything that people are willing to give. Yeah,   Michael Hingson ** 1:00:33 we've been doing this for quite a while already today. So I'm going to ask as a kind of a last question, what, what advice do you want to leave for people to think about going forward in their lives and in their careers?   Scott Hanton ** 1:00:48 So I was participating in a LinkedIn chat today where a professor was asking the question, what sort of advice would you wish you got when you were 21 Okay, so it was an interesting thread, and there was one contributor to the thread who said something I thought was particularly valuable. And she said, attitude matters. Attitude matters. We can't control what happens to us, but we can control how we deal with it and how we respond, right? And so I think if we can hold our attitude as our accountability, and we can direct our strengths and our talents to applying them against the challenges that the business or the science or the lab or the community faces, and we can go in with some positive attitude and positive desire for for change and improvement, and we can be vulnerable and humble enough to accept other people's ideas and to interact through discussion and healthy debate. Then everything's better. I also like Kelleher his quote he was the co founder of Southwest Airlines, and he said, when you're hiring, hire for attitude, train for skill. Attitude is so important. So I think, understand your attitude. Bring the attitude you want, the attitude you value, the attitude that's that's parallel to your core values. And then communicate to others about their attitude and how it's working or not working for them.   Michael Hingson ** 1:02:31 And hopefully, if they have a positive or good enough attitude, they will take that into consideration and grow because of it absolutely   Scott Hanton ** 1:02:41 gives everybody the chance to be the best they can be.   Michael Hingson ** 1:02:47 Well, Scott, this has been wonderful. If people want to reach out to you, how can they do that?   Scott Hanton ** 1:02:51 So LinkedIn is great. I've provided Michael my LinkedIn connection. So I would love to have people connect to me on LinkedIn or email. S Hanson at lab manager.com love to have interactions with the folks out there.   Michael Hingson ** 1:03:08 Well, I want to thank you for spending so much time. We'll have to do more of this.   Scott Hanton ** 1:03:13 Michael, I really enjoyed it. This was a fun conversation. It was stimulating. You asked good questio

Neste episódio especial em parceria com a Dale Carnegie Brasil, João Menezes, Gerente de Vendas da Tecnomyl Brasil, compartilhou lições valiosas sobre crescimento pessoal e profissional no dinâmico mundo do agronegócio. Desde sua experiência com cana-de-açúcar em até a expansão de mercados em vastas regiões do Brasil, João detalha como a busca incessante por conhecimento, a capacidade de se adaptar a novos cenários e a construção de relacionamentos pautados na confiança e respeito foram cruciais para sua ascensão e para o sucesso das equipes que liderou. Uma conversa profunda sobre a importância de abraçar desafios, a resiliência do mercado agro e a arte de transformar o "frio na barriga" em combustível para o sucesso. PARCEIRO DESTE EPISÓDIO Este episódio foi trazido até você pela Dale Carnegie Brasil! Transforme sua carreira e seus resultados com a Dale Carnegie! Há mais de 100 anos, desenvolvemos líderes confiantes, comunicadores poderosos e profissionais de sucesso. Nossos treinamentos comprovados impulsionam seu desempenho e o de sua equipe. Descubra o poder do seu potencial! Dale Carnegie: construindo o sucesso de vidas e negócios há mais de 100 anos. Site: https://dalecarnegiebrasil.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dalecarnegiebrasil/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/dalecarnegiebrasilYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@dalecarnegiebrasil INTERAJA COM O AGRO RESENHAInstagram: instagram.com/agroresenhaTwitter: x.com/agroresenhaFacebook: facebook.com/agroresenhaYouTube: youtube.com/agroresenhaCanal do Telegram: https://t.me/agroresenhaCanal do WhatsApp: https://bit.ly/zap-arp-01 E-MAILSe você tem alguma sugestão de pauta, reclamação ou dúvida, envie um e-mail para contato@agroresenha.com.br FICHA TÉCNICAApresentação: Paulo OzakiProdução: Agro ResenhaConvidado: João Menezes e Taiguara OnishiEdição: Senhor A - https://editorsenhor-a.com.brSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I dive into one of my favorite lost books of marketing: Showmanship in Business by Kenneth Goode and Zenon Kaufman. It's out of print, almost impossible to find, and yet it's filled with some of the most powerful principles I've ever studied when it comes to getting attention and making your message stick. This book was endorsed by Dale Carnegie and breaks down how to turn your product, offer, or brand into something truly memorable. I walk through the four pillars the authors teach, and how I've used these exact ideas in my own business to boost show-up rates, get people to share what I'm doing, and create real moments that matter. Key Highlights: The four pillars of business showmanship: Attract, Emphasize, Emotionalize, and Create Action How Tim Shields created theatrical experiences to sell photography training online The story of my “Dan Kennedy pilgrimage” and why it changed everything for one of our webinars Why a good message alone isn't enough… You need a performance around it How adding intention and drama can 10x the impact of your marketing, even without a big budget This book is a reminder that people don't just buy offers, they buy experiences. The best marketers aren't just teachers… They're performers. And when you wrap your content in a little showmanship, everything changes. If you've ever felt like your message is getting lost in the noise, this episode will show you how to make it unforgettable. Get Russell's book notes here: ⁠⁠⁠http://russellbrunson.com/notes ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://nordvpn.com/secrets⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠northwestregisteredagent.com/russell⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn.com/CLICKS⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job's visibility at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

About the Guest:John Venhuizen leads Ace Hardware, a company with a proud 101-year history, built on the trust and hard work of thousands of local owners. With over 6,000 stores worldwide — nearly all independently owned — John believes that this combination of local entrepreneurship and global support is the secret sauce that keeps Ace strong and relevant.He's a leader who values character, humility, and grit — the kind of qualities that get tested daily when you're trying to solve problems and move a big organization forward. John's perspective is both inspiring and grounded, reminding us that leadership is about service and connection as much as strategy and results.What You Will Learn:Why real leadership is about rolling up your sleeves and tackling problemsHow local ownership creates a powerful bond with communities and customersThe importance of putting faith, family, and character before work — and why that matters for long-term successHow AI is a tool to empower people, not replace themWhy a servant heart and human connection will always be a business's greatest advantageJoin us for this heartfelt conversation with John Venhuizen and discover what it really takes to lead with purpose in a complex, fast-moving world. If you want to lead better and build something that lasts, this episode will give you plenty to think about — and put into action. Please rate and review this Episode!We'd love to hear from you! Leaving a review helps us ensure we deliver content that resonates with you. Your feedback can inspire others to join our Take Command: A Dale Carnegie Podcast community & benefit from the leadership insights we share.

Watch & Subscribe on YouTubeAre you struggling to grow your business while maintaining a healthy work-life balance? Discover how to achieve both financial success and personal freedom with expert insights from Mike Abramowitz.Mike Abramowitz, a business coach and co-founder of Better Than Rich, shares his journey from selling Cutco knives to helping hundreds of business owners streamline their operations and reclaim their time. With a background in direct sales and a passion for personal growth, Mike offers valuable lessons on building systems, maximizing referrals, and achieving what he calls "3x freedom" - time, money, and location.In this episode, Mike delves into the mindset shifts and practical strategies that can transform a struggling business into a thriving enterprise. He emphasizes the importance of delegation, leveraging technology, and focusing on high-value activities to scale your business without sacrificing your personal life.Additionally, Mike discusses the power of referrals, the common pitfalls of home service businesses, and the true meaning of being "rich" beyond just financial wealth. His insights on emotional clarity and presence provide a holistic approach to success that goes beyond traditional business metrics.If you're ready to take your business to the next level while reclaiming your time and freedom, don't miss this enlightening conversation with Mike Abramowitz on the Wealthy Wellthy podcast.Key Takeaways5:43 Reframing sales as influence and skill13:46 The mindset difference in successful salespeople19:59 Mike's background as youngest of eight25:43 Money journey from debt to accredited investor33:20 Working hard on the right things40:26 Common problems for home service businesses46:37 Defining "better than rich" as 3x freedomMemorable Quotes"All sales means is influence. And people might say, what's the difference between influence and manipulation? It's intent. Manipulation is for my own self interest. Influence is for the other person's self interest.""My mess is my message. And that really stuck with me big time. I was like, what can I do to turn this valley and this pain of my twenties and turn it into some sort of gift?""We need to work hard, but we need to make sure that we're working hard at the right things. That's essentially what Andrew helped me with - what are the things that somebody else can do?"Resources MentionedHow to Win Friends and Influence People by Dale Carnegie - https://www.amazon.com/How-Win-Friends-Influence-People/dp/0671027034The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People by Stephen Covey - https://www.amazon.com/Habits-Highly-Effective-People-Powerful/dp/0743269519Connect with KrisstinaWebsite - https://wealthywellthy.life/Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/krisstinawiseYouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@krisstinawiseKrisstina's Book, Falling For Money - https://www.amazon.com/dp/0692560904/

Unlock the Power of Persuasion: Discover "The Elephant Persuasion Principle" Podcast! Ever wondered how to influence people effortlessly, build unbreakable trust, and close deals like a pro? Imagine having a memory as sharp as an elephant's—never forgetting a name, a face, or a crucial detail that seals the connection. Recall like an elephant and watch your relationships soar! Elephants aren't just massive; they're memory masters! With brains weighing a whopping 5 kg (11 lbs - they excel at recall for survival and social bonds. Think about Lakshmi, the elephant in India who, after years of abuse, retaliated against her tormentor in June 2024. It's a stark reminder: elephants remember pain, loyalty, and everything in between. Now, apply that to your life - remember names like an elephant and you'll persuade like never before! Why is remembering names a game-changing people skill? It shows respect and genuine interest, sparking trust and rapport. In business, it supercharges networking and leadership. Socially, it cements friendships and nails first impressions. A 2016 Journal of Social Psychology study proves it: using someone's name boosts your warmth and competence, making you instantly more likable. It's not just polite; it's persuasive 101! But what's happening in your brain? When you hear your name, your attention spikes (like "Great job, Sarah!"), the amygdala lights up with emotion, and the prefrontal cortex evaluates the feel-good factor. It personalizes interactions, validates feelings, and follows social norms that make folks like you more.  Here are two simple techniques: 1. Repeat and Use the Name Immediately: Say "Nice to meet you, Sarah!" and weave it in again: "So, Sarah, what's your story?" Repetition builds brain pathways, shifting names from your short-term memory to long-term recall. Example: At a networking bash, greet John with "John, awesome to connect - what's your passion, John?" Boom - name locked in! 2. Associate with a Visual Image: Link the name to a wild picture. For Rose, envision a Rose coming out of her ear. Your brain loves visuals, leveraging the hippocampus for recall.  Want more insights into recalling names, increasing recall and 4 other techniques to instantly connect to anyone. Tune into The Elephant Principle Of Persuasion Podcast. Whether you're in sales, leadership, or just want to ace social scenes, this podcast turns you into a persuasion powerhouse. Persuade With Power Kurt Mortensen PS Influence University Special More Info Buy Now

In this episode, Tyler talks with Matthew Shaffer, a renowned former golf course superintendent, about his career path and the lessons he's learned from various roles, including at high-profile clubs like Merion Golf Club and Augusta National, and humble beginnings. He credits his time at Hershey Food Corporation for shifting his perspective. At Hershey, he learned to see a golf course as a business asset rather than merely a space to protect. This exposure, combined with the mentorship of legendary superintendent Paul Latshaw Sr., gave him a "recipe for success."  Passionate about the profession, he describes his dedication and innovation to growing grass, mentoring, and equipment as essential to his role.  Developing a team in today's environment Given the shortage of turf graduates, clubs must consider candidates from diverse educational backgrounds, such as sciences or teaching, for positions traditionally held by turf specialists. He emphasizes that creativity and adaptability can make non-traditional candidates strong assets.  During his time at Merion, Shaffer described the value of strong mentorship in creating a positive reputation and providing a supportive environment that allows team members to lead, make mistakes, and learn through correction. Shaffer advises clubs to focus on cultivating their own talent, acknowledging that good team members may eventually leave but can contribute significantly in the meantime. He shares examples of successful mentors, such as Duane Schell, who excelled at developing people despite limited resources.  The importance of communication, work-life balance, and leadership will be critical to retaining and developing today's assistants. Shaffer insisted on communication skills, even sending his team members to Dale Carnegie courses, despite their reluctance. Noting that while each person had a unique style—some stoic, others chatty—all shared qualities of resilience, focus, and a commitment to learning through their mistakes. Understanding club culture and respect for everyone's roles Maintaining an adaptable skills and clear communication with stakeholders given evolving club expectations, like the shift from a "brown and firm" aesthetic to "green and fast." During the hiring process for superintendents, it's crucial to be transparent, helping the club understand its role in supporting the superintendent, rather than placing all responsibility on them. Shaffer advocates for educating Green Committees and hiring parties on resource limitations, suggesting that clubs often need to reassess their own priorities and funding distribution to achieve desired outcomes. He acknowledges the challenges that General Managers (GMs) face and underscores the value of understanding their roles, noting that success in golf course management relies on a strong relationship between the superintendent, GM, and golf pro—a "three-legged stool" essential for stability.  Strong communicators tend to navigate challenges better and foster trust with members and the General Manager around maintenance practices. Whether you're a seasoned professional or just starting out, this episode offers actionable takeaways on leadership, innovation, and navigating the challenges of the golf course industry.

Success isn't a solo act—and your career won't elevate itself.Whether you're building a business, climbing the leadership ladder, or diversifying income streams as a Multipreneur, the people around you play a massive role in your growth. So who's in your corner?In this episode, we're taking inspiration from Dale Carnegie's timeless wisdom and remixing it for today's modern woman: career-driven, community-minded, and ready to thrive on her own terms.You'll discover how to intentionally build your “Support S.Q.U.A.D.”—a network of allies, mentors, and advocates who can amplify your impact, open doors, and help you shine without burning out.

In this episode, Anthony Cudjo openly shares how childhood abuse, bullying, and fighting shaped his personality and taught him about people's energy; he also talks about receiving messages, positive self-talk, alignment with the natural laws, mastering the present, and being an agent of choice.Anthony Cudjo is a transformational coach.  With over 37 years of experience in Human Optimization, he has helped thousands of clients, including top executives, athletes, and entrepreneurs, achieve breakthroughs in their personal and professional lives.Anthony is a certified NLP Practioner, Life Coach, and Metabolic Specialist.  He is a graduate of Dale Carnegie's Leadership and Landmark Forum and hosted ESPN radio's “Fitness RX”.Check out Anthony's website:urh3o.comTo learn more, visit:linkedin.com/in/jason-Shupp-18b4619bListen to more episodes on Mission Matters:https://missionmatters.com/author/Jason-Shupp/

Part 1 How to Stop Worrying and Start Living by Dale Carnegie SummarySummary of "How to Stop Worrying and Start Living" by Dale CarnegieDale Carnegie's book, "How to Stop Worrying and Start Living," offers practical advice for overcoming worry and leading a more fulfilling life. First published in 1948, it remains a classic self-help guide. Below are the main themes and principles presented in the book:Understanding Worry Carnegie begins by explaining that worry is mainly a mental habit that can disrupt our lives. He emphasizes that worrying about the past or the future is futile. Instead, he encourages readers to focus on the present moment and not let negative feelings dominate.Techniques to Stop Worrying Carnegie shares several techniques to stop worrying, including:Ask Yourself, "What is the worst that can happen?" By confronting your fears head-on, you can often see that the worst outcomes are not as dire as they appear.Focus on Solutions, Not Problems. Concentrate on what you can do to improve your situation rather than dwelling on what you cannot change.Live in Day-tight Compartments. This means focusing only on today, not letting past concerns or future anxieties permeate your thoughts.The Importance of Action Carnegie emphasizes that taking action toward a goal or solution can help alleviate worries. He encourages readers to engage in activities that keep them productive and engaged rather than letting thoughts of worry overwhelm them.The Power of Acceptance Accepting what you cannot change is crucial. Carnegie advises that acknowledging the reality of the situation can free you from constant anxiety. He suggests developing resilience by accepting life's challenges and moving forward with a positive mindset.Building Relationships and Seeking Support Having strong relationships can mitigate feelings of worry. Carnegie advocates for seeking support from friends and loved ones, which can provide comfort and perspective when feeling anxious.Practical Advice and Real-Life Examples The book is filled with anecdotes and stories of individuals who have successfully applied Carnegie's principles to overcome their worries. This makes the advice relatable and practical.Daily Habits for Reducing Worry Carnegie outlines daily habits to reduce worry, such as engaging in physical activity, maintaining a healthy lifestyle, and cultivating gratitude. These habits contribute to a positive mental state that helps combat anxiety. Conclusion In conclusion, "How to Stop Worrying and Start Living" provides timeless strategies for managing worry and improving overall well-being. Carnegie's emphasis on action, acceptance, and positive thinking equips readers with the tools they need to lead a more fulfilling life without the burden of constant worry.Part 2 How to Stop Worrying and Start Living AuthorAuthor: Dale Carnegie Dale Carnegie was an American writer and lecturer known for his self-improvement, interpersonal skills, and sales training courses. He was born on November 24, 1888, in Maryville, Missouri, and died on November 1, 1955. Carnegie is perhaps best known for his ability to teach individuals how to effectively communicate and relate to others in both personal and professional settings.Book Release: How to Stop Worrying and Start Living Dale Carnegie published "How to Stop Worrying and Start Living" in 1948. This book became one of his most popular works, offering practical advice and techniques aimed at reducing anxiety and living a more fulfilling life.Other Notable Books by Dale Carnegie: How to Win Friends and Influence People (1936) This is Carnegie's most famous book and a classic in the self-help genre. It provides timeless principles for effective communication and building...

Episode Notes:Brieane Olson has spent 18 years shaping Pacsun into a youth-focused lifestyle brand, stepping into the CEO role in 2023 after serving as President. Known for her digital-first mindset and passion for innovation, she's deeply committed to empowering teams and promoting mental health awareness.  Key Takeaways:How Pacsun builds long-term brand loyalty through purpose and authentic partnershipsWhy vulnerability and intentionality are essential tools for leaders todayMoving beyond trends to a multi-pillar strategy rooted in California lifestyleThis episode is a must-listen for anyone curious about brand evolution and genuine leadership—reminding us all that staying real is the key to staying relevant. Please rate and review this Episode!We'd love to hear from you! Leaving a review helps us ensure we deliver content that resonates with you. Your feedback can inspire others to join our Take Command: A Dale Carnegie Podcast community & benefit from the leadership insights we share.

You can soar like an eagle, even if you feel a bit timid. Discover the secrets to overcoming fear and unlocking your potential next week with my incredible guest.  Join us for insights that will empower you to spread your wings and embrace new challenges!

Every podcast I pull an inspiring quote and chat about it. This week's quote:Let the winds of enthusiasm sweep through you. Live today with gusto. ~Dale Carnegie

Who is Paige?Paige Arnof-Fenn is a seasoned marketing strategist who specializes in helping businesses enhance their visibility in today's competitive landscape. Her clientele ranges from mid to emerging market companies with revenues between $2 million and $200 million to early-stage venture-backed startups, and even large Fortune 500 corporations. With a keen understanding of the challenges organizations face in cutting through the noise, Paige has dedicated her career to crafting strategies that elevate her clients' profiles and expedite the sales of their products and services. Her expertise lies in navigating the complexities of modern business environments, ensuring that her clients stand out and succeed in an ever-changing market.Key Takeaways00:00 Raising Visibility in Competitive Markets03:12 "Every Business is a Brand"07:06 Focus Marketing on Outcomes, Audience11:56 "Show Humanity, Not AI"_________________________________________________________________________________________________Subscribe to our newsletter and get details of when we are doing these interviews live at https://TCA.fyi/newsletterFind out more about being a guest at : link.thecompleteapproach.co.uk/beaguestSubscribe to the podcast at https://link.thecompleteapproach.co.uk/podcastHelp us get this podcast in front of as many people as possible. Leave a nice five-star review at apple podcasts : https://link.thecompleteapproach.co.uk/apple-podcasts and on YouTube : https://link.thecompleteapproach.co.uk/Itsnotrocketscienceatyt!Here's how you can bring your business to THE next level:If you are a business owner currently turning over £/$10K - £/$50K per month and want to grow to £/$100K - £/$500k per month download my free resource on everything you need to grow your business on a single page :It's a detailed breakdown of how you can grow your business to 7-figures in a smart and sustainable way————————————————————————————————————————————-TranscriptNote, this was transcribed using a transcription software and may not reflect the exact words used in the podcast)SUMMARY KEYWORDS* Marketing* Brand* Visibility* Profile* Products* Services* Business* Brands* Pandemic* Online presence* Customer expectation* Audience* Message* Trust* Social media* Outcomes* Commodities* Price* Real estate* Competitor* Features* Value* Experience* Connection* Humanity* Artificial intelligence* Growth mindset* Dale Carnegie* Storytelling* Brand promiseSPEAKERSPaige Arnof-Fenn, Stuart WebbStuart Webb [00:00:00]:Start dancing. Hi and welcome to It's Not Rocket Science five questions over coffee. I have got my coffee with me here. It is, in a mug which I got when I recently returned from Lanzarote which is and Paige has got her coffee with her. So I'm delighted today to be speaking with Paige on our fen. Paige is a really brilliant marketing connector, she's into into connecting, captivating, and converting those customers. So we're gonna learn a lot about how she's done that and what she's been doing in her business. And, Paige, welcome to It's Not Rocket Science, five questions over coffee.Stuart Webb [00:01:11]:Welcome to giving us your spin on the world.Paige Arnof-Fenn [00:01:14]:Thank you, Stuart. It's great to be here. Thanks for having me.Stuart Webb [00:01:18]:No problem. Now I know that, you are, you are you are interested in in these companies and and how they market. So can you tell me the sort of sort of business leaders, sort of business, work the business that you work with? What are the sort of problems that you see that they have that they are maybe maybe not quite converting at the moment?Paige Arnof-Fenn [00:01:40]:So the majority of our clients, I would describe as, mid to emerging market, kind of 2,000,000 to 200,000,000 in revenue, but we also work with companies who are early stage venture backed startups or even big Fortune 500 companies. And a lot of the common denominators, that affect all the organizations today is, you know, they're getting lost in the noise. There's just so much going on, and they want to raise their visibility and their profile so that they can sell more of their products and services faster. And they just feel like, you know, there's just a lot going on, and it's hard to get noticed today.Stuart Webb [00:02:25]:And and tell me, Paige, what are the problems that you've noticed that they have with that getting noticed? Because you're right. A lot of scale up businesses are are often struggling to break through the noise, and and sometimes sometimes it's simple steps they take. What are the sort of things that you find that that business owners you're working with, business leaders that you you speak to are struggling with and how and and what are the mistakes they're making?Paige Arnof-Fenn [00:02:50]:So you know, one, one universal problem, I think, is a lot of people feel like I'm really not a famous person. I don't run a big company that has global recognition. I'm not Taylor Swift or Serena Williams or Beyonce. You know?Stuart Webb [00:03:10]:Few of us are, Paige. Few of us are.Paige Arnof-Fenn [00:03:12]:But a lot of, you know, small business owners don't think of themselves as brands. They just think I'm running this small company. It's not that big of a deal. But the truth is everybody's a brand today. And I think if we learned anything during the pandemic, it's that if you don't exist online, you're really invisible today. And so, you know, the thing that I try encourage, people that, reach out is I really hope that I can convince you that it's important that you do brand yourself and brand your your product or service in a way that connects with your customers and clients on a on an emotional level. A brand is a promise of a consistent experience, and it you want to own real estate in your customer's brain so that every time they have a problem that your product or service that, can help them solve, that they think of you first. And if you own that real estate in their brain, you're a brand.Paige Arnof-Fenn [00:04:18]:And if you don't, you're a commodity. And commodities compete on price, and that's a really bad place to be. Because if you're competing on price and all you do is lower your price to win more business, that's not a sustainable option.Stuart Webb [00:04:33]:I think that's a brilliant message, Paige. And I must admit, one of the businesses that I was helping when it came to the pandemic, when they started the pandemic, they had unknown no online presence. They'd never thought of it. And by the end of the pandemic, they had more business coming in online than they had in their physical store. And, actually, that was one of the causes of the problems they then started to have in terms of that, as you said, that promise. Because, you know, what often you find with brands, with marketing, is that people promise one thing but can deliver something very different. And it's that experience of then failing to meet the customer expectation which actually causes so many problems. And that is a is a it becomes a business issue very quickly, doesn't it? Because people rarely understand that they have to have to live up to what they're talking about in their marketing.Paige Arnof-Fenn [00:05:22]:Absolutely. And you you really need to own a very specific, message. You can't stand for everything. You can stand for one or two things. And I think another big mistake people make is they try to be all things to all people. And theyStuart Webb [00:05:38]:All people. Yes.Paige Arnof-Fenn [00:05:40]:Million, benefits and features out there. People don't remember the features. What they wanna know is how you're gonna help them. How are you gonna help them solve their problem? So it's really important to hone in on your message, figure out what those really singular things are that really matter to your audience and reinforce those messages in everything that you do. And don't spread yourself too thin online either. If you try to be on every platform all the time with all the messages, again, it's just gonna dilute your brand. People aren't gonna, remember too much. And if you're not consistent in your message, if you try to be one thing on one platform and another thing on another platform, you're not building trust.Paige Arnof-Fenn [00:06:32]:And, you know, brands are you know, you you wanna have, unique, special, and different messages that build trust in what you're saying. And people buy brands they know, like, and trust. So make sure they can find you, that you're talking about yourself in a way that's relevant and compelling, and that it's constantly being reinforced in everything that you do. Those are the brands that succeed. And like you said, if they do it well, their business will explode.Stuart Webb [00:07:06]:I love the what you're saying, Paige. And I must admit I I I buy into it a lot of the time because so often I think business owners fail to recognize two things. One of which is, you know, they're reaching out onto 17 different social media platforms, and they've forgotten that on 16 of those social media platforms, their audience is not there, and they are just wasting their time and their effort and their money to reach out to somebody who just doesn't exist. And the other thing that I find so many small businesses do is they forget that they're trying. They should be selling outcomes. They should be selling the outcome of the because, you know, that once again, we go back to that promise. Somebody is not interested in the fact that I I often sort of talk to to people and say, when you buy a stapler, what is it you're looking for? You're not looking for metal. You're looking for us for for the fact that the paper will hold together.Stuart Webb [00:07:54]:So tell people about the paper being held together and how good it is that it does that, not the fact that it's made out of metal because that's a feature that nobody can relate to. And so often people forget that it's that outcome that they're really interested in, not the the steps to it. That's just the incidentals.Paige Arnof-Fenn [00:08:12]:Bingo. What's in it for them? How are you making their lives more convenient, simpler? You're saving them time. You're saving them money. And like you said, if you're just spinning your wheels and you're spending a lot of energy to no end, it's running you ragged, and it's not building your business.Stuart Webb [00:08:30]:Yeah. We're back to that most popular radio station on the, in the world, WII FM. What's in it for me?Paige Arnof-Fenn [00:08:37]:You got it. Bingo.Stuart Webb [00:08:40]:Paige, you must have, and I'm gonna put your, on screen now the the the website where we could come and find more information about you, which is at mavensandmoguls.com. Is there something at that website that we can all latch on to which is already valuable piece of free advice?Paige Arnof-Fenn [00:08:56]:Absolutely. I have a lot of free content. Articles, I've contributed to a lot of books. I've got videos. I've got podcasts. So if anyone that wants to learn more about branding or marketing, personal branding in a digital world, it's all there. There's no gated. You don't have to, give me, email address.Paige Arnof-Fenn [00:09:18]:There's no fee, and I think there'll be a lot of great content for people who wanna learn more.Stuart Webb [00:09:24]:And anybody who hasn't actually managed to capture that email that that that that now and we'll put this into there. We keep a record of all of the great stuff that that guests on the show come across. So if you just go to systemize.meforward free forward free hyphen stuff, I'll try and say that again only this time in English. Systemize dot me hyphen, sorry, slash free hyphen stuff. If you go to that link anyway, you'll see it in the show notes. You will be able to go straight onto a I will have a link straight to Paige's website, and you'll go straight into that in order to be able to get to that. So, Paige, we've got to know a little bit more about you as a as a person. So what is it? Was there a book, a program, a life experience, something that brought you to the point here where you became the the the the marketing mogul that you are?Paige Arnof-Fenn [00:10:15]:So, you know, I am constantly reading and trying to learn. I think having a growth mindset is so important today. There's so much out there. I I like the classics, to be honest with you. I think Dale Carnegie's How to Win Friends and Influence People is one that if you haven't read it or you haven't read it in a long time, there are a lot of great tips on human nature and great marketing tips as well. But there are a lot of current people, Seth Godin, David Meerman Scott, Guy Kawasaki, people that have been real practitioners in marketing and technology, and they don't use a lot of jargon. They're very straight shooting. They talk about their real life experiences in the trenches, the good, the bad, the ugly.Paige Arnof-Fenn [00:11:04]:And I always learn if I follow them online or read their books asStuart Webb [00:11:09]:well. Good good good attitude to have a growth mindset. I love it. So we come to the the million dollar question, Paige, the one that I know you've been asking yourself. When is he gonna ask me that really killer question? And so I'm going to say to you, what's the killer question I should have asked you? And then, obviously, once you've told me what that killer question is, you better answerPaige Arnof-Fenn [00:11:30]:it because I won't know the answer. So maybe is there a quote or, something that motivates you, that inspires you, that affects, you know, how you I love that question. Build your business. And I would say there's a quote. It was attributed to Teddy Roosevelt, but I I think it's been attributed to a lot of people. It's that people don't care how much you know until they know how much you care.Stuart Webb [00:11:54]:And I think I love that.Paige Arnof-Fenn [00:11:56]:I think it's a great quote. And I think especially in this day of artificial intelligence where people are kind of throwing a lot of things, you know, to these rope robotic machinery online, and what comes back is very generic and robotic, copy. And I think you have to remember to show your humanity to stand out today. So people are not looking for facts and figures and to be inundated with a lot of data. I think you have to find the stories that are unique, special, and different to you that make you stand out and get remembered. So, you know, I think if you remember nothing else about our talk today, just remember that showing your humanity, the good, the bad, the ugly, the things that the lessons you learned that only you can share, your origin story. What what is it about you that or how are you gonna help people in a way that they're gonna think of you first and remember you because you're a human being and you're not some AI tool that, you know, uses all the same buzzwords and keywords and copy, people aren't gonna remember that, but they will remember you if you have a great story.Stuart Webb [00:13:14]:Do you know? I think that's a really valuable and I hope a timely piece of advice. I know a lot of people today are using AI to write their blog posts. They're using AI to write their books. I came across somebody the other day who is using chat GPT to write his book for him. And he's using it in a very clever way with some very interesting prompts but at the end of the day when I read something I need to hear the writer's voice and that's when you suddenly sit there and go 'I cannot imagine' I couldn't imagine actually when I read what this this person I I won't use his name, but when he sent me what he'd written, I went, this doesn't sound like it. It doesn't sound like the way he talks, and I certainly don't buy into what he's saying because of it. You've actually got to continue to remember that marketing is about that. Once again, that's delivering on that promise that you make, isn't it? And if you fail to deliver because you have one voice in your marketing and another voice in your delivery, you fail to connect with a customer.Paige Arnof-Fenn [00:14:13]:Exactly. And you get one chance to make a great first impression, so don't blow it.Stuart Webb [00:14:18]:I love that. Paige, that is an absolutely brilliant way to stop. We're gonna stop there before we ruin it by saying anything which actually isn't nearly as brilliant as what you've just said. So, I'm just gonna put this up at the moment. Let's, let's let's let's just ask you. People, if you are interested in getting a a I send out a normally, I send out a weekly newsletter, and it just tells you who's coming up on the podcast in the coming few days. And if you'd like to get on that newsletter so you can get ready to hear some of the great interviews that we have with some brilliant people like Paige, go to systemize.me forward slash subscribe. Simple form.Stuart Webb [00:14:54]:It only asks you for two things, your name and your email address. You'll have nothing more than that. You will only get an email from me about once a week, and that that's as simple as that. So please go to systemize.meforward slash subscribe page. Thank you so much for coming on. What a brilliant piece of advice. And just remember, if you're using AI to write your marketing materials at the moment, you are missing a huge opportunity to be a brand which people connect with, which people love to trust, and that is missing out, and you're leaving money on the table. So, Paige, thank you so much for your time.Paige Arnof-Fenn [00:15:28]:Thanks, Stuart. I love chatting with you today. Get full access to It's Not Rocket Science! at thecompleteapproach.substack.com/subscribe

Discover all of the podcasts in our network, search for specific episodes, get the Optimal Living Daily workbook, and learn more at: OLDPodcast.com. Episode 1728: James Altucher shares unconventional yet powerful strategies to become a world-class public speaker, focusing on authenticity, storytelling, and audience connection over rehearsed perfection. His personal anecdotes and candid insights reveal how embracing vulnerability can turn anxiety into a superpower on stage. Read along with the original article(s) here: https://jamesaltucher.com/blog/how-to-be-the-best-public-speaker-on-the-planet/ Quotes to ponder: "People will only remember one or two things. So make it your story. Make it something they've never heard before." "Vulnerability is what makes a speaker great. Not ‘confidence.' Confidence without vulnerability is arrogance." "The audience wants to be entertained, inspired, and educated. In that order." Episode references: Dale Carnegie's “The Quick and Easy Way to Effective Speaking”: https://www.amazon.com/Quick-Easy-Way-Effective-Speaking/dp/0671724002 The Moth: https://themoth.org/ Chris Anderson's “TED Talks: The Official TED Guide to Public Speaking”: https://www.amazon.com/TED-Talks-Official-Public-Speaking/dp/1328710289 Toastmasters International: https://www.toastmasters.org/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

About the Guest:Sowmyanarayan Sampath is the CEO of Verizon Consumer, leading a multibillion-dollar division serving over 100 million customers across the U.S. Known for his calm leadership and strategic vision, he's focused on operational excellence and reskilling teams to stay ahead in a fast-evolving digital landscape.What You Will Learn:Why AI is a deflationary force that every company needsHow to use AI as a personal growth and communication toolThe career advantage of thinking in three-year chaptersWhat to do when your job evolves—or disappearsEvergreen skills that matter more than ever: clarity, curiosity, and communicationThis episode is packed with insight, strategy, and practical optimism. Whether you're navigating a tech transformation or planning your next leadership chapter, Sampath will inspire you to think longer, lead better, and move with intention.  Please rate and review this Episode!We'd love to hear from you! Leaving a review helps us ensure we deliver content that resonates with you. Your feedback can inspire others to join our Take Command: A Dale Carnegie Podcast community & benefit from the leadership insights we share.

What if talking about money felt more like connection than conflict?My guest today, Sloan Wilkins, brings a calm, thoughtful approach to something that often feels heavy—money. Drawing from his own experience with childhood financial loss and a long career in banking, Sloan shares how mindfulness and intention can reshape the way we manage, talk about, and feel about money. Whether you're navigating finances with a partner or juggling personal and business expenses, Sloan offers practical ways to bring more clarity, trust, and ease into the conversation.What I loved most was his take on how small, regular money conversations can ease stress and bring couples closer. We also talked about why he prefers the idea of a “spending plan” over a strict budget and how mindfulness can become a tool for both financial peace and personal growth. If you've ever felt overwhelmed by money or unsure how to talk about it, this episode offers a refreshing and gentle way in.Highlights:1. How Childhood Shapes Money Habits - Sloan shares why our early money memories still influence how we handle finances today.2. Mindfulness as a Financial Tool - Learn how stress led him to meditation—and how that shifted everything.3. The Power of Small Conversations - Find out why short, regular check-ins about money are more effective than big budgeting sessions.4. Why Spending Plans Beat Budgets - Sloan explains how to make spending feel more purposeful and less restrictive.5. Financial Peace in Relationships and Business - Hear how honest money talks can strengthen both your personal life and your work.Resources Mentioned:Think and Grow Rich by Napoleon Hill - https://a.co/d/4qhEoTN The Richest Man in Babylon by George S. Clason - https://a.co/d/eig3ESs Rich Dad Poor Dad by Robert Kiyosaki - https://a.co/d/3Oop4id Happy Money by Ken Honda (Japanese money mindset expert) - https://a.co/d/2WapM9d How to Win Friends and Influence People by Dale Carnegie - https://a.co/d/5goxeWu Connect with Sloan:Website: https://executivefinancialcoach.com.au/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sloan-wilkins Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ExecutiveFinancialCoaching/ In appreciation for being here, I have some gifts for you:A LinkedIn Checklist for setting up your fully optimized Profile:An opportunity to test drive the Follow Up system I recommend by checking this presentation page - you won't regret it. AND … Don't forget to connect with me on LinkedIn and be...

The title fits, but not necessarily for the reasons you imagine. Barbara Leigh grew up in Wisconsin where she attended college and had a successful career. She tells us about her life and discusses getting married, having two children and over time watching her life choices basically and totally destroy her self esteem.   Barbara tells us how she, while growing up, was constantly described as a “smart girl”. She helped many figure out answers and learned along the way how to observe and research to learn whatever she needed to know. In 1995 when the internet was just coming into our sphere of experience, Barbara learned about it and created web pages and websites for the nonprofit for which she worked. Even with all the technical knowledge she amassed it took many years before she realized that even with all her smarts she was becoming a person who was being reshaped by a partner with his own low esteem and who constantly blamed her for everything that went wrong.   Eventually Barbara realized that something was wrong and began to look in ernest at her life and behavior. She realized that she had to make choices and regain her own self confidence and constructive view of herself. She changed her life and outlook and began growing again emotionally. Barbara tells us about her journey and even includes lessons she learned and wants to pass on to others.   In 2024 Barbara wrote and published her book, “Why Smart Girls Get Into Bad Relationships and How Not To Do It Again”. She is quick to point out that the book is not just for women. It is for anyone who may be facing a “bad relationship”. Barbara shares nine conclusions and thoughts from the book that illustrate why her writings can be so important for so many.   This episode is full of many great life lessons and observations. I do hope you not only enjoy it, but that you also gain some positive life choice ideas from it.     About the Guest:   Barbara Leigh grew up on a small dairy farm in Wisconsin and was considered in school to be a smart girl. She was not the type to get in trouble or make bad decisions. She was involved in lots of activities and did well in school.   She went off to Ripon College where she majored in Speech Communication and worked in the library. After graduation, she got a job in a library at a nonprofit. While working toward a Masters in Library and Information Science at UW-Milwaukee in 1995, she was taking an online searching class and was recruited to build a web site for her employer, being one of only a few employees that had even heard of the World Wide Web.   From there, Barbara built a career as a web developer and eventually moved to online learning and LMS integrations. In each career step she moved toward content, but eventually was directed back to the technical.   In the midst of all that, Barbara got married and had two children. She entered and contributed to bad relationships in her marriage, career and family until one day she decided to just stop. She has spent the last twenty years figuring out what it means to stop, how to continue living, and how to do it better. In 2024, she published a book, Why Smart Girls Get Into Bad Relationships and How Not To Do It Again, and in 2025, she took early retirement to get fully into content and do more writing. She currently writes the Helpfulmess blog which posts weekly. Ways to connect with Barbara:   Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/barbaraleighauthor/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/barbaraleighauthor Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/barbaraleighauthor.bsky.social Website: https://www.barbaraleighauthor.com     About the Host:   Michael Hingson is a New York Times best-selling author, international lecturer, and Chief Vision Officer for accessiBe. Michael, blind since birth, survived the 9/11 attacks with the help of his guide dog Roselle. This story is the subject of his best-selling book, Thunder Dog.   Michael gives over 100 presentations around the world each year speaking to influential groups such as Exxon Mobile, AT&T, Federal Express, Scripps College, Rutgers University, Children's Hospital, and the American Red Cross just to name a few. He is Ambassador for the National Braille Literacy Campaign for the National Federation of the Blind and also serves as Ambassador for the American Humane Association's 2012 Hero Dog Awards.   https://michaelhingson.com https://www.facebook.com/michael.hingson.author.speaker/ https://twitter.com/mhingson https://www.youtube.com/user/mhingson https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelhingson/   accessiBe Links https://accessibe.com/ https://www.youtube.com/c/accessiBe https://www.linkedin.com/company/accessibe/mycompany/ https://www.facebook.com/accessibe/       Thanks for listening!   Thanks so much for listening to our podcast! If you enjoyed this episode and think that others could benefit from listening, please share it using the social media buttons on this page. Do you have some feedback or questions about this episode? Leave a comment in the section below!   Subscribe to the podcast   If you would like to get automatic updates of new podcast episodes, you can subscribe to the podcast on Apple Podcasts or Stitcher. You can subscribe in your favorite podcast app. You can also support our podcast through our tip jar https://tips.pinecast.com/jar/unstoppable-mindset .   Leave us an Apple Podcasts review   Ratings and reviews from our listeners are extremely valuable to us and greatly appreciated. They help our podcast rank higher on Apple Podcasts, which exposes our show to more awesome listeners like you. If you have a minute, please leave an honest review on Apple Podcasts.       Transcription Notes:   Michael Hingson ** 00:00 Access Cast and accessiBe Initiative presents Unstoppable Mindset. The podcast where inclusion, diversity and the unexpected meet. Hi, I'm Michael Hingson, Chief Vision Officer for accessiBe and the author of the number one New York Times bestselling book, Thunder dog, the story of a blind man, his guide dog and the triumph of trust. Thanks for joining me on my podcast as we explore our own blinding fears of inclusion unacceptance and our resistance to change. We will discover the idea that no matter the situation, or the people we encounter, our own fears, and prejudices often are our strongest barriers to moving forward. The unstoppable mindset podcast is sponsored by accessiBe, that's a c c e s s i capital B e. Visit www.accessibe.com to learn how you can make your website accessible for persons with disabilities. And to help make the internet fully inclusive by the year 2025. Glad you dropped by we're happy to meet you and to have you here with us.   Michael Hingson ** 01:20 Well, hello, everyone, wherever you happen to be today, around the world or in space, whatever the case happens to be, we're all in space anyway, so I guess that counts for something. But I'm really glad that you are here, and we're really going to have, I think, an interesting conversation today, because we, we have a person who has written an interesting book, at least. I think it's an interesting book. The title of the book is, why do smart girls get into bad relationships, and how to and how not to do it again. I think that's an interesting title. Smart Girls, I gotta say, though, Barbara, who is our guest, Barbara Leigh, I don't know. I think they're more than smart girls that get into bad relationships or just do dumb things. I don't know. Why is it that most people do dumb things, but that's a different story, and probably not what we're really going to cover today. But anyway, I want to welcome you to unstoppable mindset, and we're glad you're   Barbara Leigh ** 02:19 here. Thank you. Thanks for having me. Appreciate   Michael Hingson ** 02:23 it. Yeah, well, it is probably true. Why do, why do so many people get into challenges? Ah, but we cope with what we have to right? Yes, we do. Well. Well, I'm glad you're here. Thanks for for being here and being on unstoppable mindset. Really looking forward to having a chance to really chat. Why don't we start? If we can by you telling us a little bit about kind of the early Barbara growing up and all that. Alright, well, I grew up. How's that for a great way to start.   Barbara Leigh ** 02:52 That's a great, great way to start. I grew up on a small dairy farm in Wisconsin. I had two brothers and a sister, mom and dad and, you know, cats and a dog and cows. I lived in a small community. Everybody knew each other. Nothing really exciting about my childhood. I was in 4h and I was in lots of activities in school. I did great in school, and I was wildly shy as a small child, but I managed to get comfortable enough with that by being a 4h officer and being in in leadership positions in the activities that I was in. I went to off to college in Ripon, and I been busy working on being me ever since,   Michael Hingson ** 03:56 well, so you, you, you don't sound like you're very shy today,   Barbara Leigh ** 04:06 like I said, I tried to get past that. I'm still wildly introverted, but I'm at least, you know, able to speak in public. That's a   Michael Hingson ** 04:15 start. Well, that's a good you know, I'm I've always been amazed, and I hear it so often that the top fear today is public speaking. And I've never really, I know it's me, but I've never understood why it is, because I've always been somewhat used to doing it, but I think that people approach public speaking oftentimes with kind of the wrong idea, because I find that if people fear it, what they're really saying is they're afraid of the audience and what the audience might do. But I find that audiences generally don't tend to really want to view a speaker as being bad. They want speaker. To succeed. So it's always been a puzzlement to be as to why people are afraid of public speaking.   Barbara Leigh ** 05:07 Yeah, that is true. I was a Speech Communication major in college, and had to take public speaking as a course, and we had a guy in there that was just shook. His whole body. Shook it when he started out, and he by the end of the course, he was the best speaker there. I think he just needed to practice doing it and find out it's not so bad.   Michael Hingson ** 05:34 Well, what did he do? What do you have any notion of what what really eliminated his fear?   Barbara Leigh ** 05:41 I think he just got better each time. I think it really was just just getting up in front of people and finding out, yeah, they aren't gonna do anything. They're trying to do the same thing as me. They're trying to learn public speaking, and they're fine.   Michael Hingson ** 05:56 That's cool. Well, I know when I was a program director at our campus radio station at UC Irvine, I wanted everyone to listen to their their own shows. So we we wanted them to record the shows which they wouldn't do. So the engineer and I arranged for that to get done, and we made people listen to their shows, take the cassettes home and listen to them. And as I think about it, I think that probably more often than not, some of these people were in radio because they didn't have to stand up in front of an audience, and they didn't think about being in front of an audience and speaking so much. And so they did what they did, but when they were compelled, if you will, to listen to themselves, they got better. And they got better because they then heard what everybody else is hearing, and they taught themselves that they could really do better than than they thought they were doing, and that they thought that they could do. And I think that really makes a lot of difference. And some of those people actually ended up going into broadcasting as a as a career,   Barbara Leigh ** 07:01 that's great. Yeah, it really is. It's just a matter of getting used to your own voice. I mean, some people just really got annoyed, I guess is the word at their own voice, and they were like, I don't sound like that. Well, you don't sound like yourself inside your head. Yeah,   Michael Hingson ** 07:27 yeah. I know that when I hear myself talk, I do know that I sound different than I think I sound. And so again, that's part of what I work on. When I listen to recorded speeches, and I listen to what I say and how I say it, because I know what audiences like when they hear a speaker, so it gives me something to work toward. And that's a good thing. Yeah. So it is kind of fun. So you went off to school, you were in high school and all that and and did what? What people do in high school, I assume,   Barbara Leigh ** 08:07 yep, lots of groups. I was in library club and let's see Spanish club and music, musical and choir and various things. Yeah, normal stuff, yeah,   Michael Hingson ** 08:23 yeah. I did some of that. I was in the science club, and there was a math club. Wasn't in too many clubs, but I was in those two and and had a lot of fun with that. So it's, it's a good thing. And then, of course, as many of us do, then you went on to college. Where did you go to college? Ripping College. I've never heard of that college,   Barbara Leigh ** 08:49 very small liberal arts college,   Michael Hingson ** 08:52 which is all the better I am. I'm a fan of smaller colleges. I read in the book David and Goliath, the guy who invented the tipping point, wrote this book, and he talks about the fact that if more people would go to small colleges, they would discover that they could actually be kind of a larger fish in a small pond, rather than being a fish that isn't necessarily as large a fish in a very large pond. So the value of people going to to places that are smaller adds a lot of value, and you do get a lot more attention. And that's why, one of the reasons I think I went to UC Irvine, we had 2200 excuse me, 2700 students when I went there. Now there are 32,000 freshmen. My gosh, I can't believe how large it is. No, it's University California, Irvine UCI, which they always say lovingly, really, truly means under construction indefinitely. They're always building new things on the college. So.   Barbara Leigh ** 10:01 Yeah, ripen is, is under 1000 students total. And   Michael Hingson ** 10:07 what did you major in? I knew all my professors. It   10:09 was great. And   Michael Hingson ** 10:10 that's, that's cool. And I did as well. I and I got to know some of them very well. Actually, a couple, one of them even came to my wedding when my wife and I got married. Some, seven or eight, well, eight years after I graduated, or, well, six years after I graduated, but he, we invited him, and he came to the wedding. So that was kind of cool. What did you major in   Barbara Leigh ** 10:33 speech communication with a religion minor? All right.   Michael Hingson ** 10:37 Wow, that's an interesting combination. Why? Why a religion minor with with that religion   Barbara Leigh ** 10:43 has always intrigued me. I guess it's I am interested in people, and religion has such a strong effect on people, and so I really just wanted to learn more about various religions and and how they work.   Michael Hingson ** 11:01 So what do you what do you think about religion and our world today, and how much of an effect it it has?   Barbara Leigh ** 11:11 It's probably very big question. Yes, yes, I have that's like, one of the ideas for one of my next books is to dig into that I'm I have several ideas of things I want to cover, and that's one of them. But, yeah, it just it floors me that there can be so much variation in people who seem to believe the same things.   Michael Hingson ** 11:44 Yeah, yeah. It is. It is fascinating. I I've said ever since escaping from the World Trade Center on September 11, that what happened, no matter what those terrorists say, was not a reflection on the whole world of Islam and the Muslim faith, those were thugs who decided that they wanted to try to make the world bend to their will, if you will, and and they they did a pretty good job for a little while, but it wasn't a religious war, because I think most Muslims are not that way. That's true, and we shouldn't demonize that religion as such, especially since we could always go back and talk about the crusades in, you know what, 1066, and so on. And if we want to talk about Christianity and what it did, yeah, the reality is, everybody tries to do things in the name of religion, and it just doesn't make sense at all. It doesn't. But people try to justify anyway, which is, which is truly unfortunate. Well, so what did you do after you got a degree?   Barbara Leigh ** 12:47 Oh, let's see. I went off to Well, I got married. There you go, after graduation, and moved to the town where my my husband was living, and we I started working at K Mart, and from there, I went to outlet mall. I was the retail store manager, and then I got my job at a nonprofit, and I've been at that nonprofit for 34 years, until I retired, just not too long ago.   Michael Hingson ** 13:24 Wow. What's the nonprofit? Or can you say   Barbara Leigh ** 13:28 it's the international foundation of employee benefit plans? Okay,   Michael Hingson ** 13:33 well, that sounds pretty useful. You were there a long time, huh? I was wow.   Barbara Leigh ** 13:39 I moved around to multiple departments, but I was able to keep growing later, so I stayed   Michael Hingson ** 13:46 so you you were there 34 years. Wow, that is a long time. What? What did you What did you learn about life being there for so long? Wow, I was out for a general question, yeah.   Barbara Leigh ** 14:06 Well, I learned, boy, so many things I have. The foundation is an Educational Association. So I learned the actual benefits. Part of it, I have a Certified Employee Benefit Specialist designation, but also I learned a lot about people and work environments and and getting along with people, and I learned a lot about technology when I started at the foundation the the World Wide Web was not public yet, and while I was there, I was going to graduate school at UW Milwaukee. I. For library and information science. And while I was doing that, I was taking a an online searching course. And my boss, well, I worked in the library, so my boss asked me if I would create a website for the foundation, because nobody else in the building really had even heard of the World Wide Web yet. Yeah. So I learned all about web development and programming and all of that, just because I happened to be the only one that   Michael Hingson ** 15:40 knew, and using tools like Netscape, remember Netscape? Oh, yes, absolutely,   Barbara Leigh ** 15:50 yeah, wow. So yeah, I learned a lot of that, and then from from the library, I went to it, and was in a web developer for many years, and then from it, I went to educational programs where I was working with our learning management system and the integration with with our association management system. So I was, I was doing integrations, basically and but the things that I learned in technology careers that have helped me thus far have been I was doing a lot of troubleshooting. So I would, you know, a lot of times, you know, if you're in technology, no garbage in, garbage out. So when I get to a problem, I say, you know, there's this, there's garbage coming out, or there's nothing coming out at all. And I work back word through the process to get to the source data. And learning that you finding the source data and making sure that the source data is correct is really important. So I learned about a lot about working my way through systems to find that and also making sure that the systems work. So that has helped me a lot in in my life, because when I got into the situation where I needed to write this book about I managed to work my way back to the source of of the problem. And so the the source of the problem was my beliefs about me, about relationships, about other people. And so it was really helpful for me to have that process already in place in my brain, that I could just work my way back to that and Okay, now I can start from better data.   Michael Hingson ** 18:13 Yeah, do you think that working a lot in technology and perhaps some of the other areas where you worked. Do you think that that taught you more about how to observe and look at things and better be able to analyze them and and remembering them? I just find that so often people don't observe things. And I think learning to observe is extremely important to do   Barbara Leigh ** 18:45 absolutely yes, yes, when that's that's like all of my career was observing and and like you said, analyzing, being able to put what I've observed into what I want to happen, or what I would I need to communicate with other people. I think a lot of my career was, was connecting the right people to the right either technology or the or the other people, or just get making those connections.   Michael Hingson ** 19:30 But you had to learn how to observe people and draw conclusions and get that information to make that happen.   Barbara Leigh ** 19:38 Oh yes. And, you know, it's a process, just in growing up and watching people in general. Like I said, you know, religion was, was my thing, because people fascinate me. So I I've always been a people watcher, not like, go sit at the mall and watch people, but, I mean, yeah. I just really try to understand where people are coming from. And I think once I was in a technology career, it was even more important, because a lot of times in those careers people don't expect the technology person to be able to do that, and for me, that was the most important part with understanding the people, understanding what they wanted, what they were actually saying was not exactly what they wanted, and to try to get it get to what they wanted, and then to work with the system to be able to get what they wanted to come out correctly.   Michael Hingson ** 20:53 How did you discover that? How did you discover that people weren't necessarily saying what they really wanted, or that somehow it wasn't being articulated on it. And I understand that's a really tricky sort of thing. I know in asking myself that I just kind of respond by saying, it's just something you gain from a lot of experience, but you have to think about it. But you know, what do you think   Barbara Leigh ** 21:21 exactly? It's trial and error. You keep having people ask you for one thing and then expecting something else, until you figure out that you know what that's really not what they want, and to get them to verbalize, okay, what is it you want coming out of this? Is it? It's tricky.   Michael Hingson ** 21:47 Yeah, yeah, it is and, and it is something where you got to be pretty careful about how you do it and, and to whom you you focus your attentions to make that happen. Or if you've got some people who are difficult to deal with, and again, I guess that that helps you stretch and grow and you learn how to even deal with those people a little bit better, so that they're comfortable in interacting with you.   Barbara Leigh ** 22:14 Yeah, absolutely. But a big part of my job is making people feel comfortable enough to talk to me and, you know, and a lot of times when I would get a project, I would go to the person that that's using, whatever it is, and ask them, okay, you know, where are you getting this data? What do you want it to look like? And, you know, and ask them deeper questions. And, and these are often the people who are, you know, low man on the totem pole, and don't ever get asked, but those are the people that I needed to get to to find out what you know, where things were coming from, to actually give them what was going to work for them.   Michael Hingson ** 23:10 And that's interesting. You're saying, like, the low person on the totem pole doesn't get asked, and they're the ones that would love to be asked to be able to offer their opinions, so that that opens up whole new opportunities when you convey that you're you're willing to listen, and of course, that also then deals with the whole issue of trust. Because if they tell you something and say, Well, I want this incompetence, and you have to keep it that way. Yes, absolutely, trust is, is such a fleeting thing today, even though it's all around us, everywhere we go And everywhere we look. I mean, we trust that the roofs on our houses aren't going to collapse while we're doing this interview, this well, this conversation, and we trust that the internet is going to continue to work. It might, we'll see. But, but we trust in so many ways, but yet, unfortunately, we also confront, or are confronted by situations that try to teach us not to trust and to be close to trust, which is too bad. Yeah, one of the things that, that, that I talk about, actually, in my latest book, live like a guide dog, is trust. I talk about the fact that, in general, the difference between a dog and a person is while dogs love unconditionally, and I think that's true, although they can be taught not to, obviously, but while dogs love unconditionally, they don't trust unconditionally. But the difference between a dog and a person is that dogs are much more open to trust because we have just learned, or we've drawn the conclusion that we can't trust people, and so we lose that skill of being open to trust and trust. Truly learning how to determine whether we can trust any individual or not, rather than just saying we're not going to trust   Barbara Leigh ** 25:07 Right, absolutely, yeah,   Michael Hingson ** 25:10 which is, you know, which is so unfortunate? Well, I'm sure you've, you've encountered that a lot.   Barbara Leigh ** 25:17 I have, indeed, and you know that's that was part of my process, was learning how to trust again. And that's a slow, slow, hard process.   Michael Hingson ** 25:31 What, what caused you to start to learn not to trust? What? What happened in your life?   Barbara Leigh ** 25:38 Okay? Well, I want to talk about it, but, well, I won't go into too deep a detail, but yeah, I I was in a relationship where, you know, I was with a very a person has low self esteem, and because of that, I would get told that things were my fault, or things were if I hadn't done this, or if anything That happened really was was somehow brought back to me and as a person with higher self esteem, I took that as my personal responsibility, rather than looking at it as no, that's really Your choice, not, not something that I could cause, and that just kept eroding away at my confidence, and it ended up with me having no self esteem whatsoever. Wow. And then we, you know, I hit a point where an event happened, and I, you know, my brain went, nope, I don't deserve that. And that's where the light switch flipped, and I was to, you know, then I started looking around and going, you know what? I didn't deserve that, either or that, and that was not about me. And so then I started to measure against that, and go, Okay, I can set up boundaries now, because this is behavior that I won't accept anymore. And I was able to start making boundaries, and I was able to start standing up for myself. And, you know, as as that process went on, I was able to, I guess, it was motivate myself just by connecting, reconnecting with that higher self esteem person that I had been earlier. And so I would, you know, it honestly took a very long time, because I was at nothing, and at that point, I made a conscious effort to be gentle with myself and to be patient with myself and to accept myself and so with those being kind to myself thoughts, that's how I was able to move forward. And like I said, moving forward started motivating me, and I was able to bring myself back up to a higher self confidence.   Michael Hingson ** 29:02 Did you get? Oh, go ahead. Oh,   Barbara Leigh ** 29:04 but yeah. The the trust being gone was a trust for not just the person I was in a relationship with, but for so many things around me because I didn't trust myself. I didn't trust what I was believing about myself.   Michael Hingson ** 29:28 Did you hate yourself?   Barbara Leigh ** 29:31 I would not say that. I would say I just didn't understand myself. I would like I said, when I got to the bottom, I was able to say, I don't deserve that, so I wouldn't say hated myself. Yeah,   Michael Hingson ** 29:48 that's why I asked the question, because that was my impression of what from what you were saying. It wasn't a hate or a dislike, it was a recognition of what should be and what. And then how to deal with it?   Barbara Leigh ** 30:02 Yep, I was, you know, because I got there and, you know, the light switch went on, and I was like, how did I get here? How did this even happen? You know, it just, I couldn't understand.   Michael Hingson ** 30:18 But as you, as you progressed and as you learned about yourself, and that, of course, was part of it, is that you were learning about yourself and bringing yourself back the person you had a relationship with you weren't able to to, I gather, make positive steps to get them to to be a lot better than they were.   Barbara Leigh ** 30:43 That was not my focus. My focus was no boundaries, so that they couldn't hurt me anymore,   Michael Hingson ** 30:52 right, right? It wasn't a matter of you're trying to heal them, but setting boundaries and it would have it would have been nice if they had recognized what was going on. But that was the difference, is that you recognized and they did not right.   Barbara Leigh ** 31:06 And honestly, once I got to a place where I was back to being who I felt like me, he was able to look at that and take some motivation from that, and he actually went and got help through therapy as well. So it actually turned out way better than than expected, but   Michael Hingson ** 31:41 yeah, so are you guys still married? Yes, we are. Well, there you go. Okay, and that was what I was curious about. So he he did. It wasn't you can't, you can't fix everything because people have to fix themselves. But he was able to recognize that which was, which is so cool,   Barbara Leigh ** 32:02 yeah, honestly, I moved out twice. So, I mean, like I said, I set boundaries, yeah, but we made it work. I mean, like, like I said, when I first made the change I did. I was not strong enough to move to be on my own. I just wasn't. And so, you know, I just tried to be as patient with myself as possible, and and I just kept, kept those boundaries and okay, you can't talk to me like that. That's just not going to work. And as I moved forward, he kind of came along with me   Michael Hingson ** 32:47 well, and it sounds like you're both the better for it today.   Barbara Leigh ** 32:54 Oh, absolutely, yes, we've come a long way. I wouldn't say we're perfect for sure, but   Michael Hingson ** 33:01 it's a it's a process. Yes, it is. So what does he do for work or for a living?   Barbara Leigh ** 33:08 He is a sales person for a home improvement company.   Michael Hingson ** 33:11 Ah, ah, Home Improvement. Tim, the tool man, Taylor, but that's another story. Oh, gosh. Well, that's pretty cool. And does he do well at selling?   Barbara Leigh ** 33:25 Yes, he does that. He had his own business for for many years, and so it just comes pretty naturally to him.   Michael Hingson ** 33:34 Well, at the same time, if you're going to be good at sales, you have to learn to observe and and not take things too personally sometimes as well. I learned a lot about sales when I was confronted by needing to go into sales or finding another job, and then I took a Dale Carnegie sales course, and one of my favorite observations about sales is that the best salespeople are really counselors. They're teachers. They guide you in and help you make the right decision, rather than just trying to force something on you, which doesn't mean that they're not trying to make $1 and sell products, but you can also find that your product might not be what somebody wants, and if you push them into buying it, that's going to cost to cost you in the end anyway,   Barbara Leigh ** 34:24 right? And that's why he makes a good salesman, because he was he, he did the work for for 15 years, and at at his own company, and then he went, moved to sales, and just because his body was wearing out, and for because he knows how the product works, how it goes on the house or whatever, he can explain that to the customer, and that makes it so much easier for them to understand, you know, why they need what they need, and how it works.   Michael Hingson ** 34:59 Yeah. Yeah, and I have found that the better sales people really do understand how the product works, and they take the time to keep up with things, because that's going to make them better at what they do. Yes. So now you have children. How many children?   Barbara Leigh ** 35:16 Two, girl and a boy, and how old are they? 29 and 25   Michael Hingson ** 35:23 oh, they're just kids.   35:24 They're just kids   Michael Hingson ** 35:28 and and I know if they've gone into sales just checking no okay,   Barbara Leigh ** 35:36 and have no interest in doing that, what do they do? My daughter works in customer service, and my son is Air National Guard   Michael Hingson ** 35:47 member. Oh, okay, so it's hopefully it sounds like both of them have some really decent self esteem. Yes, they they learned that along the way from the two of you, which is good, which is a positive thing, which is, which is pretty cool, yeah. So you have retired from being with a nonprofit. You said you were there for 34 years, and what caused you to retire   Barbara Leigh ** 36:17 writing this book, I was, I'm looking at writing more and, you know, doing marketing and doing all the things book has been a lot to do and work full time, yeah, so I decided to give, give it my all.   Michael Hingson ** 36:35 Did you self publish or does the publisher publish it? Okay, yeah, which makes even more of a marketing responsibility for you. Although I think publishers are pushing more for most authors to do more to market their own books, rather than the publishers helping as much as perhaps they could. But nevertheless, well, tell us about the book. Then tell us, if you would tell us about that.   Barbara Leigh ** 37:01 Oh, it's why smart girls get into bad relationships, and how not to do it again. I started out with, well, basically the book is for people who want better relationships, not just women, but I. I started out with a smart girl title, because that is something I identify with. I think of it as an identity, because a lot of books on relationships are books written from the perspective of therapists or the perspective of people who have been abused or some kind of trauma or have addictions or something like that, and that's not, that's not who I am. And so I was trying to give a voice to, you know, average people have these problems too. So the smart girl identity is more about, really, like in high school, people would you know, who didn't know me? Well, what time I yearbook? You're so smart. Or people at work, thank you for fixing that. You're so smart, right? And I believed that. And what I believed was that reasonable humans make reasonable choices, and that's not always true, and so when I wrote the book here, or actually when I when I hit the bottom and I started looking back, I was like, I don't know how I got here. So how did I get here? I went through the process. I figured out that my beliefs weren't quite right, and they sounded good, but when I actually put them to action. They really didn't work. So the book is my process of of getting from bottom of the barrel self esteem back up to high self esteem, and looking at those beliefs and rewriting them.   Michael Hingson ** 39:23 So, um, how so like some of your beliefs that that didn't work. For example,   Barbara Leigh ** 39:28 I will read you a few of them if you don't mind. Okay, so, so you get the idea of where, where this goes. So Belief number there's nine of them. Belief number one, I can trust myself became, I can trust myself when I am being honest with myself, because I was lying to myself quite a bit of the time. It turns out, number two, I am a good helpful person became, I am a good helpful person, but that is not where I find my. Value, and that kind of blew me out of the water when I figured that one out. Number three, I'm smart, but I can't appear smarter than my partner. And that's where the focus on women comes in. It's kind of looks at the social oppression of women and how that affects your beliefs. You know, if you believe that stuff so, number three, became, I am smart and I don't have to hide it. Number four, I must guard my relationship, not only from outside, but from inside to became, I must guard my own boundaries to maintain my mental health and stay true to me. Number five, it is important to keep things steady and stable became keeping things steady and stable doesn't allow me to grow. Fear blocks my growth. Embracing the uncomfortable for a time helps me become better. That one was a hard one to learn how bad number six, self care is indulgent and not a priority. Became, self care is a high priority if I don't care take care of me, I can't be good at caring for anyone else. Numbers seven, I have emotional muscle, and I can muscle through anything became I have emotional muscle and I can use it to pull out of negative thoughts. I don't need to deny my emotions or wallow in them. Just recognize them, feel them, and continue to move all the way through them, and this one kind of hits home for my daughter. My daughter was diagnosed with juvenile rheumatoid arthritis at the age of 20 months, and she used her emotional muscle to muscle through her pain, because she didn't want to see the reaction of people feeling sorry for her, and so she had a lot of of using that emotional muscle to just not show people her pain and and that has been something that we've had to work on for a long time.   Michael Hingson ** 42:33 What did she discover? What did she finally do?   Barbara Leigh ** 42:37 Well, it's been a process, but she's finally actually showing her pain. She because, like she's had a cyst that burst in it. It wrapped around some things, and she couldn't tell the doctor in charge that that she was having that much pain. She she didn't make it a 10 on the pain scale. So the doctor didn't think that she was that, that these complications had happened, because most people couldn't even walk with this pain, but she could, because she's super high pain tolerance. Yeah, and, you know, she learned that she doesn't need to hide her pain, which was, which was pretty life shaking for her, and she's learned that, you know, she can actually tell her doctors, yes, I'm, I'm actually having some pain, and I I really need to have you work on this or or give me medication for this, or whatever. But, yeah, she's she's really come a long way as far as being honest with herself and with other people. Yeah, let's see. Number eight, I can rely on my smartness to figure it out became I can rely on my smartness and problem solving ability. But life isn't always logical. Sometimes I'm starting starting from a faulty belief I don't have to be perfect. It's okay to ask for help when I don't understand and get stuck. And that one it, it seems very obvious, but that one was really ingrained and kept coming up in different ways. Number nine, partial is enough, I can and should fill in. The rest became I am a whole person with my own thoughts, emotions, talents, hopes, dreams and goals. So if I want to be in a relationship, my significant other should see me as a whole person and should be a whole person themselves.   Michael Hingson ** 45:10 Wow, some pretty deep concepts, needless to say, Yeah, but by the same but by the same token, you were willing to step back and observe and think about yourself, so you were able to to create these conclusions and make these changes, which is what it's really all about?   Barbara Leigh ** 45:36 Yeah, I think that's what's different about my book, is that it's not written by a therapist or somebody who's at the other side. It's somebody who's actually in it, um, digging through it and and feeling it and it makes the, you know, it. I pulled apart the process and was, you know, you have to hit all of the things that the you know, the mental, emotional, physical, spiritual, social, all, all of the things to hold those beliefs out of all of the different places in your life where they stuck.   Michael Hingson ** 46:23 You think that people really have to, how do I say this? Go to the bottom or hit rock bottom before they can really start to learn?   Barbara Leigh ** 46:33 I hope not.   Michael Hingson ** 46:38 You did and I but I hear it a lot you really don't know until you hit rock bottom. And I'm not sure I totally buy that. It really depends on what you're able to learn and what you're able what conclusions you're able to draw. But a lot of times hitting rock bottom, if you will, maybe emotionally at least, brings people to where they need to be. But I am with you. I hope that it isn't always that way, and it doesn't need to always be that way,   Barbara Leigh ** 47:06 right? I think there's, there's different rock bottoms, you know? It's I got to the point where I needed to learn, and I learned, and that may not be what you and I would view as rock bottom to someone else, you know, but it's, you know, I finally, I finally flip the switch. And that's, you know, somebody else may have a switch at a different level than   Michael Hingson ** 47:40 or they may not see that there's a switch to flip which is, which is all about choice, yep. So what got you started down the road of writing the book?   Barbara Leigh ** 47:54 To be honest, I never thought I would write a book that was never, you know, a big goal in life for me, and I think it's totally a God thing, because I was, you know, my my daughter's been telling me, you need to write a book. You need to write a book for, you know, years. And I was like, yeah, yeah, sure, no product. And then all of a sudden it was time to write the book. And I was like, I don't know why it's time to write the book, but it's time to write the book. And honestly, it it flowed. I mean, I had all these great ideas for a book, and they went poof out the window when I wanted to start writing. I I just kind of sketched out an outline that was terrible, and showed it to a few people, and they're like, sure, you go. And I threw it away and just started writing. And once I started writing, it, it flowed. It actually just came out. And once I was in it a little, you know, a few chapters in, then I was able to organize it and figure out what I wanted to say and make an outline. But I couldn't do any of that until I just started writing. So I don't know, it was odd. And then I gave it to my son. I gave, like, the first two, two chapters, probably, to my son, and he read it, and he pushed it back over the table at me, and said big words. And I was like, okay, so I took it and I took out all the big words, and I made it more conversational. And now everybody who who has read it and and talk to me is like, you know, it just feels like a conversation with a good friend over a cup of   Michael Hingson ** 49:57 coffee. There you go for   Barbara Leigh ** 49:59 a glass of. Wine. So that's where it   Michael Hingson ** 50:03 got, yeah, it's, it's about not preaching, but presenting and teaching in a in a non confrontive way, which is what it's really about, which is what sales is about, Yeah, but that was very observant on his part to say that, yeah,   Barbara Leigh ** 50:24 you made it so much better.   Michael Hingson ** 50:28 When I wrote thunder dog, my first book I was I wrote it with someone. We collaborated. I had worked on it for a long time, or at least worked on ideas. And then Susie Flory called one day and she wanted, she was writing her own book, and she said, Tell me your story. And after I did, she said, You should write your own book, and I'll help you do it. And she did, one of the things that we had was that the book is about being in the World Trade Center, but it's also a lot about my life. And when we got it to the editor, because her agent, who became my agent, Chip McGregor, was able to sell it to Thomas Nelson publishing, which is now part of HarperCollins. But the editor said, My problem with this book is the transitions. And kind of said, well, what do you mean? He said, Well, you talk at the beginning of each chapter about an event on September 11, and then you you go back in your life, but you don't transition between the two. And then when you come back, you don't transition. And I get lost. And when he described that, it just immediately clicked what he was saying. And I actually then spent a weekend putting transitions in every chapter at the right places. And when he read that, he said, this is perfect. This is exactly what I was talking about. And when one of the major reviewers of the book, Kirkus, which reviews books for publishers and libraries and so on, when they reviewed it, they said one of the most powerful parts about it were the transitions. And so I appreciate what your son said, because sometimes the unexpected thing that someone says is what sends you down a road to make it a much better thought process and a much better book or a much better whatever than it would have been otherwise.   Barbara Leigh ** 52:22 Yeah, absolutely. I had a friend from college read it from an author perspective. So she's, she's written five books, and she gave me just, you know, really, she wrote fiction books so they weren't the same, but she gave me just really good authoring advice. As far as you know, you were used this word too many times, you know, things like that. And that was really, really helpful too to just, oh, okay, I get it. That would make it much more smooth. And you know, that was really helpful for me too, and it's just just to get feedback in any capacity is so helpful, I think,   Michael Hingson ** 53:12 well, and all of those comments that people give you help teach you how to write better. Yeah, absolutely. How has writing the book changed your perspective?   Barbara Leigh ** 53:24 Wow. Well, first thing, I had no idea about writing books or publishing or marketing or any of that, so that's been a whole big learning curve. But as far as you know, even even writing through the book helped teach me some things about the process as well. Just as far as relationships go, and talking through it with I had about a dozen people reading it at chapter by chapter as I got them done and and having getting that feedback from them, as far as you know, how it how it affected them, and it was really just so, I guess, helpful for me to learn what other people were were thinking when they're reading it. Because, you know, some of the things had never occurred to me, some of the things were for from friends who had been through some kind of childhood trauma. And I was kind of looking at, okay, I get what you're saying, and I think this that what you're telling me is you. This part is coming from your childhood trauma, but this other part is definitely something that I could add to my book, and I didn't want to make my book about trauma, because it really in my mind, was for the person that was just an average person, living an average life, having average relationship. However, my friends who have had childhood trauma have actually been the most affected by my book, which I find fascinating.   Michael Hingson ** 55:42 That's that's interesting, but it does make sense, because clearly you're trying to help people be more open about themselves, to themselves. And the people that that do that are the people that have been in situations where maybe they haven't, and they maybe intellectually realize that they need to grow and change, but they hadn't totally emotionally adopted that stance, and so you help them with that, which is cool.   Barbara Leigh ** 56:11 Yep, that's something I was expecting for sure.   Michael Hingson ** 56:15 No, understand. Now you have a blog also right, called helpfulness. Why is why is it called helpfulness? And what is it about?   Barbara Leigh ** 56:24 It is called helpful mess because when I was writing this book, I was writing about helpfulness and how that kind of steered me in the wrong direction, because that's where I was finding my value, and I had a typo that made it helpful. Mess, mess. Yeah, I said related to that mess. Yeah, it's like, that messy part. That's me. I So related to that that I ground onto that word. I was like, Okay, this word is mine,   Michael Hingson ** 56:56 well, and it really goes right along with the book and everything we've talked about today. Needless to say, Have you thought about doing things like starting a coaching program? Or do you do any of that?   Barbara Leigh ** 57:12 I do not. My daughter is, she is a life coach, and she has started a holistic nutrition program. So she's kind of doing that, that thing and, and I've never really been interested in doing that kind of thing. So I like you go. I will help you.   Michael Hingson ** 57:33 Okay, well, that's fair. I think we, we all do what we we feel we're best at, and it may come to the time where you'll suddenly discover that you're really better at it than you think, and that you could, you could coach people, or maybe not, but that's really something to look at.   Barbara Leigh ** 57:55 Yeah, I do want to focus on my writing for a while, but you know, when she's done with her program, maybe we'll get something   Michael Hingson ** 58:01 together. Well, there you go, and she lives close to you. Yeah,   Barbara Leigh ** 58:08 she's a half hour early, all right, so   Michael Hingson ** 58:10 Wisconsin home to everywhere, which is pretty cool. Well, so what would you advise? What kind of advice would you give to someone who's going through a lot of the things that you've gone through and so on? What would be the first thing that you would say to them to hopefully get them started down a different path of of life, rather than thinking so little of themselves and not really wanting to move forward,   Barbara Leigh ** 58:39 I would tell them they have options. You can leave your your value is not in how helpful you are, and be gentle and be kind to yourself and accept that you may not be coming from a belief that is true. And look, you know, try to see when you feel something that right, kind of off. Kind of look at your beliefs and you know, where is this coming from? Because a lot of times you can find it if you look hard enough, yeah,   Michael Hingson ** 59:31 it's about teaching people to truly develop the skill of self analysis, if you will. Yeah, which is something that we, we all ought to do more of we, we tend not to really look at ourselves. And it goes back to the same thing as the whole concept of the fear of public speaking, if we, if we step out of ourselves and look at what happened, we beat up on ourselves rather than recognize. Amazing. This is a teaching moment, and we can learn from it, rather than allowing it to just be something that beats us   Barbara Leigh ** 1:00:07 up. Yes, absolutely,   Michael Hingson ** 1:00:10 which makes a lot of sense. Well, I want to thank you for doing this. We've been we've been at this about an hour. Can you believe it? But I really enjoyed having you talk about it. Do you have any kind of last minute thoughts that you want to convey to people?   Barbara Leigh ** 1:00:30 Well, let's see. I guess if you think reasonable humans make reasonable choices, maybe rethink that. If you want to find my book, you can find it at my website. Let's see   Michael Hingson ** 1:00:48 and what's your website?   Barbara Leigh ** 1:00:51 Barbara Lee, author.com and Lee is l, e, i, G, H,   Michael Hingson ** 1:00:56 so it's Barbara Lee, author.com, yeah, cool. Well, I hope people will find it, and we'll, we'll read it. Is it's available? Is it a hard copy or ebook, or both, or both? Okay,   Barbara Leigh ** 1:01:16 and available on Amazon, Barnes and Noble Ingram, Apple, Google, not all the places   Michael Hingson ** 1:01:24 they're they're an audible version or an audio version,   Barbara Leigh ** 1:01:27 not yet something to work on asking, yeah, absolutely. I know I have two people that have been asking, and I well, I have to start making money before I can spend money on that.   Michael Hingson ** 1:01:43 Yeah, I hear you well, unless you read it yourself, which cuts the cost way down.   Barbara Leigh ** 1:01:49 Yeah, try that. I have no idea how to do that either, so that, you know, has added to my my pile of things I need to learn.   Michael Hingson ** 1:01:56 There you go. It's an adventure.   Barbara Leigh ** 1:01:57 Yes, absolutely, it's on the list. Well,   Michael Hingson ** 1:02:00 Barbara, thank you for being here. I really appreciate it, and I want to thank all of you for listening. I hope that this has been not only enjoyable, but educational and worth your time. Love to hear your thoughts. Love to get your your thoughts about this. So any of you who would we'd love to hear from you, please email me at Michael H, i@accessibe.com that's m, I, C, H, A, E, L, H, I at accessibe, A, C, C, E, S, S, i, b, e.com, wherever you're listening, please give us a five star review. We really appreciate those reviews, and especially we love five star reviews. We want positive reviews, but you give us your honest thoughts. We love that. We appreciate it, and we value your comments very highly. 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In this Episode: In this episode of the Achieve Results Now podcast, Mark Cardone and Theron Feidt discuss the critical importance of customer service, extending beyond business interactions to encompass personal relationships. They emphasize that effective customer service is a developable skill and a form of leadership, crucial for navigating a world increasingly absorbed in technology. They propose three actionable steps to enhance your service and communication with others:   1. Greet and Treat People Like a VIP This first step is about making everyone you interact with feel genuinely important and significant. Whether it's a family member, a friend, or a customer, show enthusiasm for their presence. Examples include giving a warm greeting, making eye contact, putting away your phone, and actively listening. The goal is to set a positive tone and convey that you're happy they are there and their needs matter, aligning with Dale Carnegie's principle of the human desire to feel significant.   2. Listen Like It's Your Job Beyond a mere greeting, active and present listening is paramount. The hosts stress being fully engaged in the moment, not just hearing words but seeking to truly understand the other person's needs, often by picking up on subtle cues beyond verbal communication. They caution against listening with an agenda (e.g., trying to immediately push a product or solution), highlighting that true understanding builds stronger relationships. This active listening allows you to uncover underlying needs, as exemplified by a martial arts student seeking self-defense but truly needing more balance and personal time.   3. Solve the Problem (or Be of Service) The final step is about providing value and finding solutions, but with a crucial caveat: understand the context. In a business setting, customers often approach you with a problem they want solved. Be an authority without being authoritative, offering confident solutions and real-life examples. In personal relationships, especially with loved ones, sometimes the "solution" is simply active listening and empathy, not an immediate fix. However, always look for ways to be of service, even subtly or by anticipating needs before they are voiced, demonstrating your value to them.   The hosts conclude by urging listeners to implement these steps to improve both professional and personal relationships, reminding them to share the episode with those who could benefit. ARN Suggested Reading: Blessings In the Bullshit: A Guided Journal for Finding the BEST In Every Day – by Mark Cardone & Theron Feidt https://www.amazon.com/Blessings-Bullshit-Guided-Journal-Finding/dp/B09FP35ZXX/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=blessings+in+the+bullshit&qid=1632233840&sr=8-1 Full List of Recommended Books: https://www.achieveresultsnow.com/readers-are-leaders   Question: 1.   Do you have a question you want answered in a future podcast? 2.   Go to www.AchieveResultsNow.com to submit. Connect with Us: Get access to some of the great resources that we use at: www.AchieveResultsNow.com/success-store www.AchieveResultsNow.com www.facebook.com/achieveresultsnow www.twitter.com/nowachieve Thank you for listening to the Achieve Results NOW! Podcast.  The podcast that gives you immediate actions you can take to start seeing life shifting results NOW!

About the Guest:Liz Haberberger is the president of Dale Carnegie Missouri and a leadership powerhouse. With a decade of experience coaching professionals at every level, Liz is known for helping people unlock potential they didn't know they had. Her training sessions and keynotes are packed with energy, actionable insights, and honest encouragement.Whether she's working with a senior leadership team or speaking on stage, Liz's mission is the same: inspire people to lead themselves first—so they can better lead others.What You Will Learn:Why attitude is your greatest leadership assetThe “gap and the gain” mindset and how to apply it dailyThe role of optimism and energy in creating lasting culture changeHow to lead with more self-awareness and intentionalityWays to build stronger, more emotionally intelligent teamsGet ready to rethink how you show up. Liz brings practical wisdom, powerful mindset tools, and a spark that stays with you. Don't miss this conversation on the Take Command podcast.  Please rate and review this Episode!We'd love to hear from you! Leaving a review helps us ensure we deliver content that resonates with you. Your feedback can inspire others to join our Take Command: A Dale Carnegie Podcast community & benefit from the leadership insights we share.

In this episode, Lisa Shield, a pioneering love coach with over two decades of experience, delves into the true reasons why many individuals struggle to connect on dates. She shares her philosophy that finding the right connection is more crucial than merely finding the right man. Lisa encourages personal growth alongside dating and teaches listeners how to uncover and address their blind spots that might be holding them back.Lisa also introduces her emotionally naked dating approach, which prioritizes authentic personal development over tactical dating strategies. She provides practical advice derived from Dale Carnegie's classic book, "How to Win Friends and Influence People," tailored specifically for dating contexts. Listeners will learn how to engage in meaningful conversations, make their dates feel valued, and genuinely connect on a deeper level.Key Takeaways:Connecting, Not Impressing: Shift the focus from self-promotion to genuine interest in your date.Personal Growth: Work on yourself to be ready for a meaningful relationship.Active Listening: Engage fully and encourage your date to share more about themselves.Genuine Compliments: Sincerely acknowledge and appreciate your date's unique qualities.Overcome Fears: Confront dating-related insecurities to build true self-worth and confidence.Highlights: Focus on Connection, Not Finding the Right ManAddressing Dating ChallengesHidden Agendas and ExpectationsSelf-Worth and ConfidenceEngaging Communication TechniquesPersonal Growth and Transformation**Resources:**- Free 45-minute presentation: https://www.lisashieldlove.com/registration-page-final-page**Connect with Us:**- Website: https://www.lisashield.com/podcast/- Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lisashieldcoaching/- Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lisashieldcoaching/Want more content like this? Want more content like this?  Want more content like this? Continue On Your Journey: Lisa Shield| YouTube | Facebook | Instagram | Book a Call with LisaEmail the podcast at: podcast@lisashield.com

In this episode of Grow a Small Business, host Troy Trewin interviews Penny Burke, Director of WhereTo Research, shares her inspiring journey of growing the company to $12 million in revenue and leading it through a successful merger with a global firm. She highlights the importance of strong people skills, strategic thinking, and staying passionate about business. Penny also reflects on her early days in advertising and how those experiences shaped her leadership style. This episode offers valuable insights into sustainable growth, effective leadership, and staying true to your values in the business world. Why would you wait any longer to start living the lifestyle you signed up for? Balance your health, wealth, relationships and business growth. And focus your time and energy and make the most of this year. Let's get into it by clicking here. Troy delves into our guest's startup journey, their perception of success, industry reconsideration, and the pivotal stress point during business expansion. They discuss the joys of small business growth, vital entrepreneurial habits, and strategies for team building, encompassing wins, blunders, and invaluable advice. And a snapshot of the final five Grow A Small Business Questions: What do you think is the hardest thing in growing a small business? According to Penny Burke, one of the hardest things in growing a small business is managing time, especially balancing business development ("hunting") with project delivery ("cooking and eating"). She explains that in a project-based business, it's challenging to constantly juggle winning new work while also delivering high-quality outcomes. Additionally, she emphasizes that people management — hiring the right team and dealing with performance issues—is another tough but crucial aspect of sustainable growth. What's your favorite business book that has helped you the most? Penny Burke's favorite business book that has helped her the most is "How to Win Friends and Influence People" by Dale Carnegie. She considers it a classic and values its timeless insights on building strong relationships and effective communication—key skills in both leadership and business growth. Are there any great podcasts or online learning resources you'd recommend to help grow a small business? Penny Burke does not recommend any specific podcasts or online learning tools to help grow a small business. She mentions that her husband uses such resources more than she does, and she personally prefers listening to music during her downtime instead of engaging with podcasts or similar tools. What tool or resource would you recommend to grow a small business? Penny Burke emphasizes the importance of market mapping as a methodology rather than a specific tool. She recommends identifying where your business can play, where it can win, and where you can build your fame. This market-focused thinking helps small businesses define their niche and develop a strong positioning strategy, which is critical for growth. What advice would you give yourself on day one of starting out in business? Penny Burke's advice to herself on day one of starting out in business is: "Just be good. Don't worry about size. Just whatever it is that you're going to do, do it really, really, really well." This highlights her focus on quality and excellence over rapid growth. Book a 20-minute Growth Chat with Troy Trewin to see if you qualify for our upcoming course. Don't miss out on this opportunity to take your small business to new heights! Enjoyed the podcast? Please leave a review on iTunes or your preferred platform. Your feedback helps more small business owners discover our podcast and embark on their business growth journey.     Quotable quotes from our special Grow A Small Business podcast guest: The only thing I've ever wanted to be is good, and not just good, but great – Penny Burke Success is about working on great projects, attracting great people, and delivering great outcomes." – Penny Burke People like working with good people; don't underestimate the power of being one." – Penny Burke  

In this special celebratory episode, William Green spotlights some of the most important lessons from the greatest investor of all time: Warren Buffett. In honor of Buffett's historic decision to retire after 60 years as Berkshire Hathaway's CEO, William offers his thoughts on Buffett's legacy & Berkshire's future; he also shares powerful highlights from his conversations about Buffett with Joel Greenblatt, Nick Sleep, Thomas Russo, Chris Davis, Chuck Akre & Christopher Bloomstran. IN THIS EPISODE YOU'LL LEARN: 00:00 - Intro 04:20 - What makes Berkshire Hathaway's annual meeting a joyous experience. 06:13 - How Warren Buffett's virtues & values shone through at this year's AGM. 14:51 - How he & Charlie Munger made most of their money off 8 or 9 big bets. 22:41 - What Buffett taught Joel Greenblatt about buying great businesses. 27:24 - What stunned Greenblatt when he finally met Buffett. 33:45 - Why Chuck Akre attributes his enormous success to Buffett's teachings. 38:18 - What Thomas Russo learned from Buffett about reducing “agency risk.” 46:17 - How Buffett inspired Nick Sleep to do what he already knew was right. 52:34 - Why Christopher Bloomstran thinks all CEOs should study Berkshire. 1:19:54 - Why Buffett focuses relentlessly on resilience in the face of extreme risks. 1:22:48 - What principles guide Greg Abel's philosophy of asset allocation. 1:26:00 - Why Berkshire directors like Chris Davis vow to protect its unique culture. 1:33:39 - How he achieved staggering success without making enemies. Disclaimer: Slight discrepancies in the timestamps may occur due to podcast platform differences. BOOKS AND RESOURCES Join Clay and a select group of passionate value investors for a retreat in Big Sky, Montana. Learn more ⁠here⁠. Join the exclusive ⁠TIP Mastermind Community⁠ to engage in meaningful stock investing discussions with Stig, Clay, Kyle, and the other community members. Berkshire Hathaway's annual reports since 1995. Robert Hagstrom's book The Warren Buffett Way. Dale Carnegie's book How to Win Friends & Influence People. William Green's podcast episode with Joel Greenblatt. William Green's podcast episode with Thomas Russo. William Green's podcast episode with Christopher Bloomstran. William Green's podcast episode with Chris Davis. William Green's book, “Richer, Wiser, Happier” – ⁠read the reviews of this book⁠. Follow William Green on ⁠X⁠. Check out all the books mentioned and discussed in our podcast episodes ⁠here⁠. Enjoy ad-free episodes when you subscribe to our ⁠Premium Feed⁠. NEW TO THE SHOW? Get smarter about valuing businesses in just a few minutes each week through our newsletter, ⁠The Intrinsic Value Newsletter⁠. Check out our ⁠We Study Billionaires Starter Packs⁠. Follow our official social media accounts: ⁠X (Twitter)⁠ | ⁠LinkedIn⁠ | ⁠Instagram⁠ | ⁠Facebook⁠ | ⁠TikTok⁠. Browse through all our episodes (complete with transcripts) ⁠here⁠. Try our tool for picking stock winners and managing our portfolios: ⁠TIP Finance Tool⁠. Enjoy exclusive perks from our ⁠favorite Apps and Services⁠. Learn how to better start, manage, and grow your business with the ⁠best business podcasts⁠. SPONSORS Support our free podcast by supporting our ⁠sponsors⁠: ⁠SimpleMining⁠ ⁠⁠Hardblock⁠ ⁠AnchorWatch⁠ ⁠Fundrise⁠ ⁠DeleteMe⁠ ⁠CFI Education⁠ ⁠Vanta⁠ ⁠The Bitcoin Way⁠ ⁠Onramp⁠ ⁠Indeed⁠ ⁠Shopify⁠ HELP US OUT! Help us reach new listeners by leaving us a ⁠rating and review⁠ on ⁠Spotify⁠! It takes less than 30 seconds, and really helps our show grow, which allows us to bring on even better guests for you all! Thank you – we really appreciate it! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm

What does it take to master fear, stress, and anxiety in a world that constantly challenges men's confidence? Today, John Heinen welcomes Joe Hart, the transformational CEO of Dale Carnegie and Wall Street Journal bestselling author of 'Take Command.' As a converted lawyer leading a 100-year-old global organization while raising six children, Hart shares powerful insights on conquering the fixed mindset that paralyzes many men. This insightful conversation explores how to navigate major life transitions, build enduring relationships, and maintain family priorities amid professional demands. Hart reveals the surprising parallels between leading multinational organizations and guiding a family, offering practical wisdom rooted in both modern psychology and timeless principles. Don't miss this masterclass in authentic masculine leadership from one of today's most respected thought leaders.

I find that when we communicate with others, in any way, we are either helping or hurting our relationship with them. Yet every day, more and more of our communication is digital. I cut my relationship teeth as a kid on Dale Carnegie's book, “How To Win Friends and Influence People.” But this assumed we were face to face. How do we win friends and influence people from a digital perspective? A few years ago I sat down with an expert, Erica Dhawan. She wrote a book titled, Digital Body Language: How to Build Trust and Connection, No Matter the Distance. Erica says if you look at the next text, email, or DM as simply a method to deliver a message and not as a human interaction, you are missing it. If you think your all-caps or exclamation points or brevity or emojis are sufficient, you're about to be schooled. Ultimately it comes down to this, continue doing it as you have, or realize there is a far greater opportunity for your work and life success if you listen in and hear how you can make some key adjustments and use every text, email, or zoom to solidify and enhance your relationships and significantly increase your relational success.  Sign up for your $1/month trial period at shopify.com/kevin Go to shipstation.com and use code KEVIN to start your free trial. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices