Podcasts about Precautionary principle

David Siegel is a tech entrepreneur from Silicon Valley. He has been researching and writing about climate since 1990. 00:00 Introduction and Setup00:17 Understanding Statistical Numeracy02:26 Gun Control Study04:12 Motivated Reasoning and Political Bias07:23 Personal Beliefs and Group Identity10:04 Medical Misconceptions and Drug Efficacy12:10 Critical Thinking and Scientific Curiosity16:13 Climate Change and CO2 Debate25:32 Heat Transport and Climate Dynamics27:15 Skeptics vs. Promoters: A Historical Perspective27:59 The Precautionary Principle and Government Overreach28:25 The Importance of Scientific Curiosity30:27 Proposing a Climate Debate32:12 Debate Structure and Logistics35:32 Challenges and Funding for the Debate38:07 Final Thoughts and Call to ActionX: https://x.com/PullNewsLongevity: https://www.infinitegameoflife.com/=========AI summaries of all of my podcasts: https://tomn.substack.com/p/podcast-summariesMy Linktree: https://linktr.ee/tomanelson1

1.27.2025_Environmental L..A.W.S. - PFAS Analysis and the Precautionary Principle by Thompson Hine

IntroductionLIVE from your ESG corn maze, it's a Business Pants Friday Show here at October 25th Studios, featuring all your favorites: AnalystHole-man Matt Moscardi. On today's weekly wrap up: McDonald's investor relations team hires entire writing staff from The Onion, an accelerated retirement at Southwest, Denny's is saving lives, and a shout-out to Mr. CorpGovOur show today is being sponsored by Free Float Analytics, the only platform measuring board power, connections, and performance for FREE.Story of the Week (DR):McDonald's strange week: DR MMTrumpMcDonald's is distancing itself from Donald Trump after a high-profile visit to the fryerWe don't support presidentsRead McDonald's memo about Trump's controversial visit: 'We are not red or blue – we are golden'E. coli outbreak/quarter pounder/onionsE. coli outbreak tied to McDonald's Quarter Pounder kills 1, sickens dozens in USTaco Bell, KFC, Pizza Hut, Burger King pull onions amid McDonald's outbreakA much bigger McDonald's lawsuit is about to ‘erupt' in the aftermath of its E. coli outbreak, food safety lawyer saysCDC told McDonald's about potential E. coli outbreak late last weekFDA probing McDonald's supplier Taylor Farms as source of E. Coli outbreak, CNBC reportsDEI failure? According to comparably.com, only 2 of Taylor Farms leadership team of 16 are women. So I guess Vivek would agree that it was the men? Former Abercrombie CEO Mike Jeffries charged with sex trafficking, interstate prostitutionSouthwest chairman will 'accelerate retirement' and step down next week, as board appoints 6Disney to name CEO Bob Iger's replacement in 2026, taps Morgan Stanley's Gorman as chairBoeing strike drags on as latest deal is rejected by 64% of unionGoodliest of the Week (MM/DR):DR: Apple CEO Tim Cook's Other Job: Helping Nike Turn Things AroundDR: Denny's to close 150 restaurants, will reduce menuMM: McDonald's linked to E. coli outbreak, CDC saysTrump just served them!MM: SEC Fines WisdomTree $4 Million for Investing in Fossil Fuels and Tobacco in ESG Funds DR MMAssholiest of the Week (MM):Southwest and activist investor Elliott strike deal to keep CEO Bob Jordan, add six new directorsLook how we have to coddle these fucking directors - the six directors leaving Southwest will be gone by November 1, but Gary Kelly, who has sat on this board and let it languish for THREE DECADES will still get to linger at the back of the conference room as “Chair Emeritus”In: David Cush, Sarah Feinberg, Dave Grissen, Gregg Saretsky and Patricia Watson plus Pierre Breber, who was already addedWe have Grissen, Saretsky, Watson, and Breber in our dataAverage earnings: 413Average TSR: 389Out: Biegler, Biggins, Blunt, Cunningham, Gilligan, and SoltauAverage earnings: 356Average TSR: 371Survivors: Doug Brooks, Ed Conrado, Bob Fornaro, Rakesh Gangwal, David Hess, Elaine Mendoza, Chris Reynolds, and Lisa AthertonAverage earnings: 379Average TSR: 500Replacement skills:Energy/oil (Biegler) for energy/oil (Breber)Government (Blunt) for government regulator (Feinberg)TWO professors (Cunningham, Gilligan) for TWO airlines (Cush, Saretsky)Bankrupt retail (Soltau) for mediocre hotel (Grissen)Bank (Biggins) for Bank tech (Watson)Jordan staysThis is the big win??? Replacing mediocre with mediocre, keeping Kelly napping in the background, and Jordan, a lifer alongside Kelly, keeps his job? That's a WIN?Teen Dies by Suicide After Becoming Obsessed With AI Chatbot150m raised at a 1bn valuationAndreesen anchoredTechno Optimist Manifesto:We believe Artificial Intelligence can save lives – if we let it. Medicine, among many other fields, is in the stone age compared to what we can achieve with joined human and machine intelligence working on new cures. There are scores of common causes of death that can be fixed with AI, from car crashes to pandemics to wartime friendly fire.We believe any deceleration of AI will cost lives. Deaths that were preventable by the AI that was prevented from existing is a form of murder.Our present society has been subjected to a mass demoralization campaign for six decades – against technology and against life – under varying names like “existential risk”, “sustainability”, “ESG”, “Sustainable Development Goals”, “social responsibility”, “stakeholder capitalism”, “Precautionary Principle”, “trust and safety”, “tech ethics”, “risk management”, “de-growth”, “the limits of growth”.Accountability and oversight: noneOpenAI disbands another safety team, head advisor for 'AGI Readiness' resignsMeta Oversight Board seriously concerned about Facebook's ‘overenforcement' of Harris-Walz nipple postWhining Boeing InvestorsLawsuit Against Boeing's Board Seeks Accountability for Safety FailuresOhio AG Dave Yost on behalf of Ohio Public Employees Retirement System and the State Teachers Retirement System of OhioThe lawsuit contends that board members and senior management know about the ongoing unsafe practices but even today fail to address them, choosing instead to prioritize profits over safety and regulatory compliance.“The failure of Boeing's directors and officers to implement and oversee Boeing's safety and compliance functions in good faith led to incalculable damage to Boeing's relationships with its regulators, customers, lenders, potential employees, and the flying public,” the lawsuit says.Congrats on the lawsuit! Also, the 2024 proxy vote by OPERS:Headliniest of the WeekDR: Microsoft CEO Nadella asked for pay reduction after security slip, but total comp still rose 63% (more than $30 million)MM: H/t to Mr. CorpGov on his substackWho Won the Week?DR: He wins when he says and when he doesn't says: Jamie Dimon Privately Supports Kamala Harris. He Just Won't Say So.MM: Shake Shack, the only fast food company not associated with e coliPredictionsDR: Jamie Dimon Says you should feel safe eating at McDonald's even though he wouldn't be caught dead eating at McDonald's. Also, the next CEO of Disney comes from NetflixMM: Ozempic cures e coli

In a world of Artificial General Intelligence, machines would be able to match, and even exceed, human cognitive abilities. AGI might still be science fiction, but Séb Krier sees this technology as not only possible, but inevitable. Today on Faster, Please! — The Podcast, I chat with Krier about how our public policy should facilitate AGI's arrival and flourishing.Krier is an AI policy expert, adviser, and attorney. He currently works in policy development and strategy at Google DeepMind. He previously served as Head of Regulation for the UK Government's Office for Artificial Intelligence and was a Senior Tech Policy Researcher at Stanford's Cyber Policy Center.In This Episode* The AGI vision (1:24)* The risk conversation (5:15)* Policy strategy (11:25)* AGI: “if” or “when”? (15:44)* AI and national security (18:21)* Chatbot advice (20:15)Below is a lightly edited transcript of our conversationPethokoukis: Séb, welcome to the podcast.Krier: Thank you. Great to be here.The AGI vision (1:24)Let's start with a bit of context that may influence the rest of the conversation. What is the vision or image of the future regarding AI — you can define it as machine learning or generative AI — that excites you, that gets you going in the day, that you feel like you're part of something important? What is that vision?I think that's a great question. In my mind, I think AI has been going on for quite a long time, but I think the aim has always been artificial general intelligence. And in a sense, I think of this as a huge deal, and the vision I have for the future is being able to have a very, very large supply of cognitive resources that you can allocate to quite a wide range of different problems, whether that's energy, healthcare, governance, there's many, many ways in which this technology can be applied as a general purpose technology. And so I guess my vision is seeing that being used to solve quite a wide range of problems that humans have had for decades, centuries, millennia. And I think you could go into so many different directions with that, whether it's curing diseases, or optimizing energy grids, and more. But I think, broadly, that's the way I think about it. So the objective, in a sense, is safe AGI [Artificial General Intelligence], and from that I think it can go even further. And I think in many ways, this can be hugely beneficial to science, R&D, and humanity as a whole. But of course, that also comes with ways in which this could be misused, or accidents, and so on. And so huge emphasis on the safe development of AGI.So you're viewing it as a tool, as a way to apply intelligence across a variety of fields, a variety of problems, to solve those problems, and of course, the word in there doing a lot of lifting is “safely.” Given the discussion over the past 18 months about that word, “safely,” is, one, I think someone who maybe only pays passing attention to this issue might think that it's almost impossible to do it safely without jeopardizing all those upside benefits, but you're confident that those two things can ultimately be in harmony?Yeah, absolutely, otherwise I wouldn't be necessarily working on an AGI policy. So I think I'm very confident this can be done well. I think it also depends what we mean by “safety” and what kind of safety we have in mind. Any technology, we will have costs and trade-offs, but of course the upside here is enormous, and, in my mind, very much outweighs potential downsides.However, I think for certain risks, things like potentially catastrophic risks and so on, there is an argument in treading some careful path and making sure this is done scientifically with a scientific method in mind, and doing that well. But I don't think there's fundamentally a necessary tension, and I think, in fact, what many people sometimes underestimate is how AI itself, as a technology, will be helpful in mitigating a lot of the risks we're foreseeing and thinking about. There's obviously ways in which AI can be used for cyber offense, but many ways in which you can also use that for defense, for example. I'm cautiously optimistic about how this can be developed and used in the long runThe risk conversation (5:15)Since these large language models and chatbots were rolled out to public awareness in late 2022, has the safety regulatory debate changed in any way? It seems to me that there was a lot of talk early on about these existential risks. Now I seem to hearing less about that and more about issues about, maybe it's disinformation or bias. From your perspective, has that debate changed and has it changed for the better, or worse?I think it has evolved quite a lot over the past — I've been working in AI policy since 2017 and there's been different phases, and at first a lot of skepticism around AI even being useful, or hype, and so on, and then seeing more and more of what these general models could do, and I think, initially, a lot of the concerns were around things like bias, and discrimination, and errors. So even things like, early-on, facial-recognition technologies were very problematic in many ways: not just ways in which they were applied, but they would be prone to a lot of errors and biases that could be unfair, whereas they're much better now, and therefore the concern now is more on misuse than it accidentally misidentifying someone, I would say. So I think, in that sense, these things have changed. And then a lot of the discourse around existential risk and so on, there was a bit of a peak a bit last year, and then this switched a bit towards more catastrophic risks and misuse.There's a few different things. Broadly, I think it's good that these risks are taken seriously. So, in some sense, I'm happy that these have taken more space, in a way, but I think there's also been a lot of alarmism and unnecessary doomerism, of crying wolf a little bit too early. I think what happens is that sometimes people also conflate a capability of a system and how that fits within a wider risk or threat model, or something; and the latter is often under-defined, and there's a tendency for people to often see the worst in technology, particularly in certain regions of the world, so I think sometimes a lot has been a little bit exaggerated or overhyped.But, having said that, I think it's very good there's lots of research going on on the many ways in which this could potentially be harmful, certainly on the research side, the evaluation side, there's a lot of great work. We've published some papers on sociotechnical evaluations, dangerous capabilities, and so on. All of that is great, but I think there has also been some more polarized parts calling for excessive measures, whether regulatory, or pausing AI, and so on, that I think have been a little bit too trigger-happy. So I'm less happy about these bits, but there's been a lot of good as well.And much of the debate about policy has been about the right sort of policy to prevent bad things from happening. How should we think about policy that maximizes the odds of good things happening? What should policymakers do to help promote AI to reshape science, to help promote AI diffusing as efficiently as possible throughout an economy? How do we optimize the upside through policy rather than just focusing on making sure the bad things don't happen?I think the very first thing is not having rushed regulation. I'm not personally a huge fan of the Precautionary Principle, and I think that, very often, regulations can cause quite a lot of harm downstream, and they're very sticky, hard to remove.The other thing that you can do beyond avoiding bad policy is I think a lot of the levers to making sure that the development goes well aren't necessarily all directly AI-related. So it'll be things like immigration: attracting a lot of talent, for example, I think will be very important, so immigration is a big one. Power and energy: you want there to be a lot more — I'm a big fan of nuclear, so I think that kind of thing is also very helpful in terms of the expected needs for AI development in the future. And then there are certain things governments could potentially do with some narrow domains like Advance Market Commitments, for example, although that's not a panacea.Commitments to do what?Oh, Advance Market Commitments like pull mechanisms to create a market for a particular solution. So like Operation Warp Speed, but you could have an AI equivalent for certain applications, but of course there's a lot of parameters in doing that well, and I wouldn't want a large industrial-policy-type approach to AI. But I think generally it's around ensuring that all the enablers, all the different ingredients and factors of a rich research and development ecosystem continue to thrive. And so I think, to a large extent, avoiding bad regulation and ensuring that a lot of things like energy, immigration, and so on go well is already a huge part of the battle.How serious of a potential bottleneck is the energy issue? It seems to me like it's a serious issue that's coming fast, but the solutions seem like they'll take more time, and I'm worried about the mismatch between the problem and finding a solution to the problem.I suspect that, over the coming years, we will see more and more of these AI systems being increasingly useful, capable, and then integrated into economic systems, and I think as you start seeing these benefits more and more, I think it'll be easier to make the case for why you need to solve some of these kind of policy issues a bit faster.And I also think these solutions aren't that difficult, ultimately. So I think there's a lot that can be done around nuclear, and wind, and solar, and so on, and many regulatory processes that could be simplified, and accelerated, and improved to avoid the vetocracy system we're in at the moment. So I don't think the solutions are that difficult, I think mustering the political will might be right now, but I expect that to be less of a challenge in the coming years with AI showing more and more promise, I think.Policy strategy (11:25)Speaking of vetocracy, whatever the exact substance of the regulation, I am concerned, at least in the United States, that we have 50 states, and perhaps even more bodies if you look at cities, who all have a lot of ideas about AI regulation, and I'm extremely concerned that that sort of fractured policy landscape will create a bottleneck.Can we get to where we need to go if that's the regulatory environment we are looking at, at least in the United States? And does, ultimately, there need to be a federal . . . I think the technical word is “preemption” of all those efforts? So there's a federal approach, and there aren't a federal approach, plus a 50-state approach, plus a 175-city approach to regulation. Because if it's going to be what I just described, that seems like a very difficult environment to deal with. I'm not wildly optimistic around a patchwork of different state-level regulatory systems. I think that will come with various externalities, you'll have distortionary effects. It will be a very difficult environment, from a commercial perspective, to operate in smoothly. I think I'm a lot more open to something at a federal level at some point, rather than a big patchwork of city-level or state-level regulation. Now, it depends on exactly what we're talking about. There might be specific domain, and context, and application-specific regulations that might make sense in some state and not another, but in general, from a first principles level at least, I think that would probably not be desirable.A second regulatory concern — and maybe this is dissipating as policy makers learn more, especially at the federal level, maybe, learn more about AI — is that, at least initially, it seems to me that whatever your policy idea was for social media, or about content moderation or what have you, you just kind of took that policy framework and applied it to AI because that was what you had. You pulled that baby right off the shelf. Are we still seeing that, or are people beginning to think, “This is its own thing, and my ideas for social media may be fine for social media, but I need to think differently about AI”? Obviously the technology is different; also, I think both the risks and potential rewards are very different.Yeah, totally. I think that has been an issue. Now, I wouldn't say that's the case for everyone. There's been some groups and some institutions doing some very careful work that really think about AI, and AGI, and so on in careful, more calibrated ways; but also I've seen quite a lot of reports where you could have easily imagined the same text being about social media platforms, or some kind of other policy issue, or blockchain, or something just being repurposed for AI. And there's a lot of stuff out there that's just very high level, and it's hard to disagree with at a high level, but it's far harder to apply and look at from an operational or practical perspective.So I've been seeing quite a lot of that; however, I think over time, the field is maturing more and more, and you're seeing better thinking around AI, what it really is, what's appropriate at the model level versus at the application level and the existing landscape of laws and regulation and how these might apply as well, which is often that's something that's forgotten, or you have lots of academics coming in and just trying to re-regulate everything from first principles, and then you're like, “Well, there's tort law, and there's this and that over there.” You got to do your gap analysis first before coming out with all this stuff.But I think we are seeing the field of AI governance and policy maturing in that space, and I expect it to continue, but I still, of course, see a lot of bad heuristics and poor thinking here, and particularly an underestimation of the benefits of AI and AGI. I think there's a tendency to always think of the worst for everything, and it's necessary, you need to do that too, but few are really internalizing how significant AGI would be for growth, for welfare, and for solving a lot of the issues that we've been talking about in the first place.The Conservative Futurist: How To Create the Sci-Fi World We Were PromisedAGI: “if” or “when”? (15:44)Is AGI an “if” issue, or is it a “when” issue, and if it's a “when,” when? And I say this with the caveat that predictions are difficult, especially about the future.In my mind, it's definitely a “when” question. I see no real strong reason why it would be an “if,” and that being completely impossible. And there's been many, many, many examples over the last 10 years of people saying, “Well, this is not possible with neural networks,” and then 10 minutes later, it is proven to be possible. So that's a recurring theme, and that may not be sufficient to think that AGI is feasible and possible, but I'm pretty confident for a variety of reasons. About AGI, by the way, I think there's an excellent paper by Morris and others on Levels of AGI [for] Operationalizing Progress on the Path of AGI, and I think it's a very good paper to [frame one's thinking about AGI].And that goes back to one point I made earlier in that, at some point, you'll have systems that will be capable of quite a lot of things and can do probably anything that your average human can do, starting at least virtually, remotely, to start with, and eventually to the physical world, but I think they'll be capable in that sense. Now, there's a difference between these systems being capable in an individual lab setting or something and then them being actually deployed and used in industrial processes, commercial applications, in ways that are productive, add value, create profits, and so on, and I think there's a bit of a gap here. So I don't think we'll have a day where we'll wake up and say, “Oh, that's it, today we have AGI.” I think it'll be more of a kind of blurry spectrum, but gradually I think it'll be harder and harder people to deny that we have reached AGI, and as this stuff gets integrated into production systems, I think the effects on growth and the economy will speak for themselves.As to when exactly, I would think that, at least the capabilities, I would expect that in the next five years you could easily see a point where people could make a very confident claim that, yeah, we've got systems now that are AGI-level. They're generally capable, and they are pretty competent, or even expert-level to at least 90th percentile of skilled adults, and then the challenge will be then operationalizing that and integrating that into a lot of systems. But in my mind, it's definitely not an “if,” and I would say the next five to 10 years is the kind of relevant period I have in mind, at least. It could be longer, and I think the tech community has a tendency to sometimes over-index, particularly on the R&D side.AI and national security (18:21)Do you have any thoughts, and maybe you don't have any thoughts, about the notion that, as perhaps AGI seems closer, and maybe the geopolitical race intensifies, that this becomes more of a national security issue, and the government takes a greater role, and maybe the government makes itself a not-so-silent partner with tech companies, and it really becomes almost like a Manhattan Project kind of deal to get there first. Leopold Aschenbrenner wrote this very long, very long paper — is that an issue that you have any thoughts on? Is it something that you discuss, or does it seem just science fictional to you?Yeah, I do do a lot of thinking on that, and I've read Leopold's report, and I think there's a lot of good things in there. I don't necessarily agree with everything. I think things like security are really critical, I think thinking about things like alignment, and so on, is important. One thing I really agree with with Leopold's report that I'm glad he emphasized was the need to secure and cement liberal democracy, “the free world must prevail” kind of thing. I think that is indeed true, and people tend to underestimate the implication on that front. Now, what that looks like, what that means and requires in practice is not fully clear to me yet. I think people talk about a Manhattan Project, but there are many other potential blueprints or ways to think about that. There could be just normal procurement partnerships, there could be different models for this. At some point, something like that could be defensible, but it's very hard to predict that in advance, given particularly. . . well, how hard it is to predict anything with AI to start with. And secondly, there's loads of trade-offs with all these different options, and some might be a lot better than others, so I think certainly more work might be needed there. But, in principle, the idea doesn't seem completely crazy or science fiction to me.Chatbot advice (20:15)You recently posted on X that you were baffled at how many people don't use these language models or chatbots daily. I think a lot of people don't know what they would use them for. Do you have any recommendations for ways that people who are not in your line, who are not coders, that people can use them? Do you use them in ways that are applicable to the way regular people might use them?Yeah, I think so, and under the post, I gave a few examples of how I use it. Now admittedly, most of these wouldn't be something that anyone would do, but I thought about this last weekend when I was seeing my parents and I was trying to get them to understand what Claude or Gemini is and how to think about it, what kind of questions are worth asking, and what kind of questions are not worth asking, and it's very hard to come up with a very crisp way of sharing these intuitions. I think the first piece of advice I'd give is probably to just take one of these models and have a very long conversation with it about some sort of topic, like try to poke holes, try to contradict, and I think that starts giving you maybe a few better intuitions about what this can do, as opposed to just treating it as some sort of question-and-answer Oracle-type search engine, which I think is not the right use case.That is probably the most unsatisfying way to look at it, and just treat it as a better Google search engine. I mean really that sort of conversational, curious aspect, rather than saying like, “Find me a link.” “Find me a link” isn't a great use.Exactly, and people will often do that. We'll do a thing, we'll get some incorrect answer, or hallucination, or whatever, and then we'll say, “Oh, these things are not good, they're not accurate,” and we'll stop using it, and to me, that is just crazy. It is very fundamentally incurious, and I think there's ways of using them and thinking of them that is very useful. So what have I done recently? I'm trying to think of an example. . .I had some papers that I couldn't understand very well, and I would just ask it for better analogies, explanations, try to dig into certain concepts and ideas and just play around with them until the insights and intuitions were easier for me to internalize and understand. And I think you could do that at different levels, and regular people also want to understand things, so I think that might be potentially an example. But the very first thing I would do is simply long, protracted conversations to really get a sense of how far the model can really go, and then, as you do that, you'll find things that are a bit more creative than, “Can you please rewrite this email for me? Can you find typos?” or “Can you fill in my tax report?” or something. I think one way a friend used it — and of course, there are obvious limitations to that, get a lawyer and everything — but he had a legal contract that someone sent to him, and he couldn't afford a lawyer straight away, so he just said, “Can you help me find potential issues and errors in here? Here's who I am in this kind of contract. Here's what I'm concerned with.” And it's a first starting point. It can be useful. It gives you interesting insights. It doesn't mean it replaces a lawyer straight away, but it is one potential interesting way that everyday people could use.Faster, Please! is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit fasterplease.substack.com/subscribe

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In this episode, Ralph and Luc spotlight an environmental success story: the Montreal Protocol's role in healing the ozone layer. We draw comparisons to the pitfalls of the IPCC's COP process and try to derive a diplomatic blueprint for climate policy. We look into the science of how ozone and chlorine works in the stratosphere, the history of the activist scientists (Sherwood Roland and Mario Molina) who first sounded the alarm about CFC's destruction of the ozone layer, and the work of technocrats in devising their replacement. We also examine the geopolitical dynamics that were foundational to this planetary victory. You can also watch this episode on YouTube at: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qlz8O0_fkh4  Sources: • We sample clips from the 2019 PBS documentary Ozone Hole: How We Saved the Planet, written and directed by Jamie Lochhead — notably interviews with Mario Molina, Joan Roland (widow of Sherwood), Lee Thomas (administrator at the EPA), Crispin Tickell (adviser to Margaret Thatcher) and Bob Watson (NASA). https://www.pbs.org/show/ozone-hole-how-we-saved-planet/  • We also sample clips from this 2021 interview with Susan Solomon (the atmospheric chemist who demonstrated CFC's impact on ozone) and Stephen Andersen (leader of the Montreal Protocol and co-chair of its Technology and Economic Assessment Panel), by the Future of Life Institute, in which they share their roles in the closing of zone hole.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hwh-uDo-6A • We cite elements from the 1998 book Ozone Diplomacy: New Directions in Safeguarding the Planet, by Richard Elliot Benedick. • We cite the 2002 book Ozone Connections: Expert Networks in Global Environmental Governance, by Penelope Canan and Nancy Reichman. • We cite the 2019 book The Ozone Layer: From Discovery to Recovery, by Guy P. Brasseur. • We cite the 2021 Nature article The Montreal Protocol protects the terrestrial carbon sink, by Paul J. Young, Anna B. Harper, Chris Huntingford, Nigel D. Paul, Olaf Morgenstern, Paul A. Newman, Luke D. Oman, Sasha Madronich & Rolando R. Garcia.https://doi.org/10.1038/s41586-021-03737-3 • We refer to insights from the 2021 book Cut Super Climate Pollutants Now!: The Ozone Treaty's Urgent Lessons for Speeding Up Climate Action, by Alan Miller, Durwood Zaelke and Stephen Andersen. • We also cite from the 2023 book 35th Anniversary of Protecting the Ozone Layer, by Marco Gonzalez and Stephen Andersen.  Read more at: https://ozone.unep.org/ozone-timeline and https://csl.noaa.gov/assessments/ozone/2022/downloads/twentyquestions.pdf

In today's conclusion of my interview with Dr. Stuart Fischbein (from the Birthing Instincts podcast with Blyss Young), we talk about the intricacies of God's design, the new postpartum depression pill, "jabs", exposure to heavy metals, and Dr. Stu's recommendations for how to have the best chance to have a natural birth.     Helpful Links:   2 WAYS TO WORK WITH LORI:   --> Sign up HERE for the Your Birth, God's Way Online Christian Childbirth Course! This is a COMPLETE childbirth education course with a God-led foundation taught by a certified nurse-midwife with over 20 years of experience in all sides of the maternity world conducted LIVE this summer.  Learn more or sign up HERE!   --> Sign up for your PERSONALIZED Pregnancy Coaching Midwife & Me Power Hour HERE These consults can include: birth plan consultation, past birth processing, second opinions, breastfeeding consultation, and so much more!  Think of it as a special, one-hour appointment with a midwife to discuss whatever your concerns may be without any bias of practice policy or insurance policy influencing recommendations.     Lori's Recommended Resources HERE   Sign up for email updates Here   Be heard! Take My Quick SURVEY to give input on future episodes you want to hear --> https://bit.ly/yourbirthsurvey   Got questions?  Email lori@yourbirthgodsway.com     Socials: Follow Your Birth, God's Way on Instagram! Follow the Your Birth, God's Way Facebook Page! Join Our Exclusive Online Birth Community -- facebook.com/groups/yourbirthgodsway   Learn more about Lori and the podcast at yourbirthgodsway.com!   FREE Bible Study - If you die today, do you know where you're going? Can you be sure?  Let there be no doubt!  Let's study together here!   DISCLAIMER:  Remember that though I am a midwife, I am not YOUR midwife.  Nothing in this podcast shall; be construed as medical advice.  Listening to this podcast does not mean that we have entered into a patient-care provider relationship. While I strive to provide the most accurate information I can, content is not guaranteed to be 100% accurate.  You must do your research and consult other reputable sources, including your provider, to make the best decision for your own care.  Talk with your own care provider before putting any information here into practice.  Weigh all risks and benefits for yourself knowing that no outcome can be guaranteed.  I do not know the specific details about your situation and thus I am not responsible for the outcomes of your choices.    Some links may be affiliate links which provide me a small commission when you purchase through them.  This does not cost you anything at all and it allows me to continue providing you with the content you love.

Gene editing is a powerful and specific technique that allows customized changes to DNA. Because there are no additional sequences transferred, and alternations match what could happen naturally over time, the technology is considered less invasive and less prone to regulatory oversight. That's true in the USA, Canada, China and other nations. However, the European Court of Justice determined that these techniques should be regulated in a manner identical to transgenics, where the EU has not approved such innovations in over two decades. EU scientists see how the EU is falling behind and after long may never catch up. The rejection of technology leads to a tremendous economic loss. Dr. Emma Kovak of the Breakthrough Institute discusses the current regulations, the proposed changes, and the dynamics of opposition to a good technology that could have profoundly positive impacts for people and the planet. 

How the world got rid of lead in gasoline.Sources: REVIEW: Clair Patterson and Robert Kehoe: Two Views of Lead Toxicity (uniwa.gr), Chemical concentrations of pollutant lead aerosols, terrestrial dusts and sea salts in Greenland and Antarctic snow strata - ScienceDirect, Historical changes in integrity and worth of scientific knowledge - ScienceDirect, The Removal of Lead from Gasoline: Historical and Personal Reflections - ScienceDirect, LSU Press :: Books - A Thousand Ways Denied, The Ancient Oyster - Country Roads Magazine, The Development of the Louisiana Oyster Industry in the 19th Century. (lsu.edu), Historical review of European gasoline lead content regulations and their impact on German industrial markets (Technical Report) | ETDEWEB (osti.gov), Precautionary Principle and the Kehoe Principle • LITFL • CCC. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

n this episode of Benevolent AI, safety researcher Dr. Roman Yampolskiy speaks with Host Dr. Ryan Merrill about societal concerns about controlling superintelligent AI systems. Based on his knowledge of what the top programmers are doing, Roman says at the most there is only a four year window - at most - to implement safety mechanisms before AI capabilities exceed human intelligence and are able to rewrite its own code. And that window could even be as short as one year from now. Either way, there's not much time left. Yampolskiy discusses the current approaches to instilling ethics in AI, as well as the bias shaped by the programmer who determines what is helpful or ethical. Yampolskiy advocates for a pause on development of more capable AI systems until safety is guaranteed. He compared the situation to the atomic bomb. Technology is advancing rapidly, so programmers urgently needs to establish social safeguards. More engagement is needed from the AI community to address these concerns now, to address the worst case scenario, then any positive outcome is a bonus. With all the risks of advanced AI, it also presents tremendous opportunities to benefit humanity, but safety first. #Benevolent #ai #safetyfirst Watch on Youtube @BetterWorlds # About Roman V. Yampolskiy Dr. Roman V. Yampolskiy is a Tenured Associate Professor in the department of Computer Engineering and Computer Science at the Speed School of Engineering, University of Louisville. He is the founding and current director of the Cyber Security Lab and an author of many books including Artificial Superintelligence: a Futuristic Approach. # About Better Worlds Better Worlds is a communication and community building platform comprised of weekly podcasts, engaging international conferences and hack-a-thons to encourage and support the development of Web3 solutions. Our programs celebrate voices from every continent to forge a shared and abundant future.

In episode seven, Daisy and Clare chat about all things related to fish - from where to obtain those all important essential omega 3 fatty acids, to whether fishing really is sustainable and what you can eat as an alternative on a plant based diet if you decide to leave fish alone. Further references are linked below: https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/public-health-nutrition/article/are-we-running-out-of-fish-fish-health-and-sustainability/3D836148DDB47B8F1D2E790872533B90 Li N, et al. Fish consumption and multiple health outcomes: Umbrella review. Trends in Food Science and Technology 2020. doi:10.1016/j.tifs.2020.02.033 Song M,et al. Association of animal and plant protein intake with all-cause and cause-specific mortality. JAMA Intern Med 2016. doi10.1001/jamainternmed.2016.4182 Jayedi A, Shab-Bidar S. Fish Consumption and the Risk or Chronic Disease: An Umbrella Review of Meta-Analyses of Prospective Cohort Studies. Advances in Nutrition 2020; 11:. Burns-Whitmore B, Froyen E, Heskey C, Parker T, Pablo GS. Alpha-linolenic and linolenic fatty acids in the vegan diet: Do they require dietary reference intake/ adequate intake special considerations? Nutrients 2019; 11:. Statement on the benefits of fish/seafood consumption compared to the risks of methlymercury in fish/seafood. EFSA J 2015. doi:10.2903/j.efsa2015.3982 Update on the monitoring of levels of dioxins and PCB's in food and feed. EFSA J 2012. doi:10.2903/j.efsa.2012.2832 Xue B, et al. Underestimated Microplastics Pollution Derived from Fishery Activities and ‘Hidden' in Deep Sediment. Environ Sci Technol 2020. doi:10.1021/acs.est.9b04850 Cohen L, Jefferies A. Environmental Exposure and Cancer. Using the Precautionary Principle. Ecancermedicalscience 2019. doi:10.3332/ecancer.2019.ed91 Chen J, et al. Antibiotics and Food Safety in Aquaculture. J Agric Food Chem 2002.doi:10.1021/es011287i Courtenay M, et al. Tackling antimicrobial resistance 2019-2024- The UK's five year national action plan. J Hosp Infec 2019. doi:10.1016/j.jhin.2019.02.019 Manyi-Loh C, Mamphweli S, Meyer E, Okoh A. Antibiotic use in agriculture and its consequential resistance in environmental sources: Potential public health implications. Molecules 2018; 23(4):795,doi:10.3390/molecules23040795  Milanovic V,  Osimani A, Aquilanti L, et al Occurrence of antibiotic resistant genres in the faecal DNA of healthy omnivores, ovo-lacto vegetarians and vegans. Mol Nutr Food Res 2017; 61(9) doi:10.1002/mnfr.201601098 The Gospel of the Eels - book by Patrik Svensson https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-64814781 https://marine-conservation.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/Sala-et-al_Nature_2021.pdf Financial Times articles (behind a pay wall) Missing ice and bleached coral: the sudden warming of the oceans | Financial Times 7/8/23   Use of horseshoe crabs' blue blood puts pharma groups under scrutiny | Financial Times (ft.com) 23/8/23 Seagrass beds | WWT  https://www.vegansociety.com/resources/nutrition-and-health/nutrients/omega-3-and-omega-6-fats?gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjw38SoBhB6EiwA8EQVLr47EqsO8r6_-9XuzhPk1rWVqZm4V1FtXDUD_FWKiTxINNDBNTM4RxoCWRwQAvD_BwE

In this episode, my guest is Marc Andreessen, the legendary software innovator who co-created the internet browser Mosaic, co-founded Netscape, and is now at Andreessen Horowitz — a venture capital firm that finds and brings to life technologies that transform humanity. We discuss what it takes to be a true innovator, including the personality traits required, the role of environment and the support systems needed to bring revolutionary ideas to fruition. We discuss risk-taking as a necessary but potentially hazardous trait, as well as the role of intrinsic motivation and one's ability to navigate uncertainty. We also discuss artificial intelligence (AI) and Marc's stance that soon everyone will use AI as their personalized coach and guide for making decisions about their health, relationships, finances and more — all of which he believes will greatly enhance our quality of life. We also delve into nuclear power, gene editing, public trust, universities, politics, and AI regulation. This episode is for those interested in the innovative mind, psychology, human behavior, technology, culture and politics. For the full show notes, including articles, books, and other resources, visit hubermanlab.com. Thank you to our sponsors AG1: https://drinkag1.com/huberman LMNT: https://drinklmnt.com/huberman Eight Sleep: https://eightsleep.com/huberman InsideTracker: https://insidetracker.com/huberman Momentous: https://livemomentous.com/huberman Timestamps (00:00:00) Marc Andreessen (00:03:02) Sponsors: LMNT & Eight Sleep (00:06:05) Personality Traits of an Innovator (00:12:49) Disagreeableness, Social Resistance; Loneliness & Group Think  (00:18:48) Testing for Innovators, Silicon Valley (00:23:18) Unpredictability, Pre-Planning, Pivot (00:28:53) Intrinsic vs Extrinsic Motivation, Social Comparison (00:32:52) Sponsor: AG1 (00:33:49) Innovators & Personal Relationships (00:39:24) Risk Taking, Innovators, “Martyrs to Civilizational Progress” (00:46:16) Cancel Culture, Public vs. Elite (00:53:08) Elites & Institutions, Trust (00:57:38) Sponsor: InsideTracker (00:58:44) Social Media, Shifts in Public vs. Elite  (01:05:45) Reform & Institutions, Universities vs. Business (00:14:14) Traditional Systems, Lysenkoism, Gen X (01:20:56) Alternative University; Great Awakenings; Survivorship Bias  (01:27:25) History of Computers, Neural Network, Artificial Intelligence (AI) (01:35:50) Apple vs. Google, Input Data Set, ChatGPT (01:42:08) Deep Fakes, Registries, Public-Key Cryptography; Quantum Internet (01:46:46) AI Positive Benefits, Medicine, Man & Machine Partnership (01:52:18) AI as Best-Self Coach; AI Modalities (01:59:19) Gene Editing, Precautionary Principle, Nuclear Power (02:05:38) Project Independence, Nuclear Power, Environmentalism (02:12:40) Concerns about AI (02:18:00) Future of AI, Government Policy, Europe, US & China (02:23:47) China Businesses, Politics; Gene Editing  (02:28:38) Marketing, Moral Panic & New Technology; Politics, Podcasts & AI (02:39:03) Innovator Development, Courage, Support  (02:46:36) Small Groups vs. Large Organization, Agility; “Wild Ducks” (02:54:50) Zero-Cost Support, YouTube Feedback, Spotify & Apple Reviews, Sponsors, Momentous, Neural Network Newsletter, Social Media  Title Card Photo Credit: Mike Blabac Disclaimer

Protection from untested interventions has long been the basis for ethical decisions in medicine and especially pregnancy. So what happened? Blyss & Dr. Stu discuss the wisdom of Naturopathy and the attack on longstanding principles and wisdom from many fronts. ACOG changes ethics and the Arrive Trial isn't all that we were sold.In this episode, Dr. Stu and Blyss cover the ACOG Committee Statement No. 6: Ethical Considerations for the Delivery of Obstetric and Gynecologic Care During a Pandemic.They scrutinize the risks associated with untested products for pregnant and breastfeeding women, the ethics of using such products, and heartrending news of sudden cardiac events in young people. The ebbs and flows of this conversation lead to the significance of finding a healthcare provider that resonates with your beliefs.Key highlights:Vaccines, Child Visits, and Medical EthicsCorruption in the Medical WorldNature's Importance and Preventive ActionsEthics and Vaccination in a PandemicThe ARRIVE Trial's Impact on Induction RatesEpisode resources:Ethical Considerations for the Delivery of Obstetric and Gynecologic Care During a PandemicEffects of the ARRIVE Trial on Elective Induction and Obstetric Outcomes in Term Nulliparous PatientsThis show is supported by:LMNT | Go to drinklmnt.com/birthinginstincts to get a free sample pack with every orderNeeded | Use code BIRTHINGINSTINCTS for 20% off your first month or first 3 months of a one-month subscription at thisisneeded.com.BIRTHFIT | Go to birthfit.com and use the code INSTINCTS1 for a discount on the Basics Prenatal program, or INSTINCTS2 for a discount on the Basics Postpartum program.Connect with Dr. Stu & Blyss:Instagram: @birthinginstincts / @birthingblyssWebsite: birthinginstincts.com / birthingblyss.comEmail: birthinginstinctspodcast@gmail.com Call-in line: 805-399-0439

Value: After Hours is a podcast about value investing, Fintwit, and all things finance and investment by investors Tobias Carlisle and Jake Taylor. See our latest episodes at https://acquirersmultiple.com/  About Bill: Bill runs Sullimar Capital Group, a family investment firm. Bill's website: https://sullimarcapital.group/ Bill's Twitter: @BillBrewsterTBB About Jake: Journalytic Jake is a partner at Farnam Street: http://farnam-street.com/vah Jake's podcast: https://twitter.com/5_GQs Jake's Twitter: https://twitter.com/farnamjake1 Jake's book: The Rebel Allocator https://amzn.to/2sgip3l About Bill: Bill runs Sullimar Capital Group, a family investment firm. Bill's website: https://sullimarcapital.group/ Bill's Twitter: @BillBrewsterSCG ABOUT THE PODCAST Hi, I'm Tobias Carlisle. I launched The Acquirers Podcast to discuss the process of finding undervalued stocks, deep value investing, hedge funds, activism, buyouts, and special situations. We uncover the tactics and strategies for finding good investments, managing risk, dealing with bad luck, and maximizing success. SEE LATEST EPISODES https://acquirersmultiple.com/podcast/ SEE OUR FREE DEEP VALUE STOCK SCREENER https://acquirersmultiple.com/screener/ FOLLOW TOBIAS Website: https://acquirersmultiple.com/ Firm: https://acquirersfunds.com/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/Greenbackd LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tobycarlisle Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/tobiascarlisle Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tobias_carlisle ABOUT TOBIAS CARLISLE Tobias Carlisle is the founder of The Acquirer's Multiple®, and Acquirers Funds®. He is best known as the author of the #1 new release in Amazon's Business and Finance The Acquirer's Multiple: How the Billionaire Contrarians of Deep Value Beat the Market, the Amazon best-sellers Deep Value: Why Activists Investors and Other Contrarians Battle for Control of Losing Corporations (2014) (https://amzn.to/2VwvAGF), Quantitative Value: A Practitioner's Guide to Automating Intelligent Investment and Eliminating Behavioral Errors (2012) (https://amzn.to/2SDDxrN), and Concentrated Investing: Strategies of the World's Greatest Concentrated Value Investors (2016) (https://amzn.to/2SEEjVn). He has extensive experience in investment management, business valuation, public company corporate governance, and corporate law. Prior to founding the forerunner to Acquirers Funds in 2010, Tobias was an analyst at an activist hedge fund, general counsel of a company listed on the Australian Stock Exchange, and a corporate advisory lawyer. As a lawyer specializing in mergers and acquisitions he has advised on transactions across a variety of industries in the United States, the United Kingdom, China, Australia, Singapore, Bermuda, Papua New Guinea, New Zealand, and Guam.

Nassim Nicholas Taleb (@nntaleb), the author of “The Black Swan” and “Antifragile," joins episode 83 of The Julia La Roche show alongside veteran Wall Street Journal reporter Scott Patterson (@pattersonscott), author of “Chaos Kings: How Wall Street Traders Make Billions In the New Age of Crisis.”  “Chaos Kings,” which features Taleb, recounts the story of Universa Investments, a Miami-based investment firm specializing in risk mitigation, deploying a tail-risk hedging strategy to limit losses from an outsized market event, like a Black Swan. Taleb is the Distinguished Scientific Advisor at Universa. Led by Mark Spitznagel, Universa is among the best-performing investment managers of the last 15 years, reaping massive gains from market crashes. During the depths of the COVID-19 pandemic in early 2020, Universa delivered a stunning 4,000% return during the first quarter when markets sharply sold off. The firm has posted a 15-year average annual return on capital north of 100%. 0:00 Show open 1:00 Chaos Kings story  6:40 A problem with infrequent but large losses   9:45 Precautionary Principle  12:29 Tail risk hedging  15:30 Flaws of modern finance  17:17 Mark Spitznagel learning to “love to lose”  19:00 Fragilities, hidden risks, big picture macro environment  23:43 Addressing misconceptions around Black Swans  25:30 Optionality  30:16 Experience and execution of the strategy  31:49 Black Swans v. Dragon Kings  34:30 Predicting an event is one thing; benefitting is another thing 36:00 Sornette's Dragon Kings  38:50 Universa's 4,000% gain  41:45 Getting to know Nassim Taleb  46:01 Rethinking investing  49:01 New age of crisis  54:40 Parting thoughts 

 In this episode, we dive deep into his latest piece on 'Why AI Will Save the World'. We get into the piece and some of the critiques and really go all out. 0:00 Intro1:31 Discussing “Why AI Will Save the World” 2:40 The Baptists and the Bootleggers of AI Doomerism in Washington D.C5:49 Private Truths and Public Lies8:54 The Parallels between Prohibition and AI11:27 Why AI is a Positive Force for Society13:22 AI: Artificial Intelligence or Augmented Intelligence?15:50 Definining intelligence20:46 Marc's Definition of Superintelligence25:11 How Marc and his 8 Year Old Son use ChatGPT28:43 What would it mean if you had an AI that was as smart as Einstein?30:06 Marc's counter response to Why AI won't kill us all31:07 Marc's response to AI as a runaway process/orthogonality thesis38:07 On Hostile Powers Using AI38:38 The Precautionary Principle and Fire40:37 Parallels between AI and Nuclear Weapons?46:29 The Two AI Counterfactuals that worry Marc48:52 China's intentions with AI52:07 Intelligent Design's Impact on Humanity55:31 Why is open source important to AI?58:31 Marc's Advice to Founders in AI1:01:00 What Marc would say to World Leaders about AI1:04:22 Cultural Portrayals of AI1:13:15 What is the next step for ChatGPT?1:18:50 Data's Role in AI Advancement1:22:18 Synthetic Data and AI1:26:44 How ChatGPT Impacts Education1:33:58 Does AI take the place of human relationships? 1:37:35 Defining “Immanentize the Eschaton” 1:46:26 Marc's Favorite ChatGPT Prompts 

The Other Side of the Story with Tom Harris – Climate activists say that we must follow the “Precautionary Principle” and phase out all fossil fuel use to “save the climate.” To do otherwise is reckless, they warn. But they are the ones being reckless, advocating that we eliminate the reliable, inexpensive energy sources that allowed us to grow to 8 billion souls. Despite the fact that there has...

The Other Side of the Story with Tom Harris – Climate activists say that we must follow the “Precautionary Principle” and phase out all fossil fuel use to “save the climate.” To do otherwise is reckless, they warn. But they are the ones being reckless, advocating that we eliminate the reliable, inexpensive energy sources that allowed us to grow to 8 billion souls. Despite the fact that there has...

How can we merge the concepts of slippery slopes and the precautionary principle? James Andow explains how precautionary evaluation of risks can help us evaluate both the risks of ending up on a slippery slope to deployment, and the risks resulting from deployment. James argues that we need to concern ourselves with risks, not just inevitabilities, when considering slippery slopes. For additional reading discussed, see books "Innate" and "the WEIRDest people in the world". Paper: "Slippery Slope Arguments as Precautionary Arguments: A New Way of Understanding the Concern about Geoengineering Research" (https://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/whp/ev/pre-prints/content-whp_ev_3729)

In this episode I'd like to explore the impacts of the precautionary principle in public policy.  Many people think that the precautionary principle is the safest way forward. We shouldn't use a tool until we're sure that it won't harm us. This just makes sense, doesn't it? The application of the precautionary principle in European energy policy, for example, has lead to the shut down of Germany's nuclear fleet, strong labelling laws for GMO products, and many other decisions of which I am not yet aware. Today I'll be interviewing an economist who has a unique interdisciplinary perspective on the environment, health, and labor economics to get an expert opinion on this topic. I came across his insightful work as references in a Freakonomics podcast episode titled, “nuclear energy isn't perfect. Is it good enough?'. Matthew Neidell is an economics professor in the Department of Health Policy and Management at Columbia University's Mailman School of Public Health.  He is also a faculty member with the Earth Institute and the Columbia Population Research Center. Neidell received his PhD in economics from UCLA and has performed policy work for various organizations, including the Environmental Protection Agency, Institute of Medicine, Rockefeller Foundation, and World Bank He specializes in environmental, health, and labor economics, applying the latest empirical methods to examine the relationship between the environment and a wide range of measures of well-being, including worker productivity and human capital, and how human behavior affects these relationships. Support more penetrating public policy perspectives at patron.podbean.com/therationalview Join the Facebook discussion @TheRationalView Twitter @AlScottRational Instagram @The_Rational_View #TheRationalView #podcast #precautionaryprinciple #nuclearpower #publicpolicy #environment #energytransition #greenenergy #atomicenergy

Is virtue signalling behind damaging EU environmental policy? In this Swift Half with Snowdon, IEA Head of Lifestyle Economics Christopher Snowdon speaks to EU regulations blogger David Zaruk. David been an EU risk and science communications specialist since 2000, active in EU policy events from REACH and SCALE to the Pesticides Directive, from Science in Society questions to the use of the Precautionary Principle. They discuss a variety of topics ranging from anti-pesticide NGOs to the demonisation of industry professionals in general. David's blog, 'The Risk-Monger', can be read here: https://risk-monger.com/  

Cass R. Sunstein is currently the Robert Walmsley University Professor at Harvard. From 2009 to 2012, he was Administrator of the White House Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs. He is the founder and director of the Program on Behavioral Economics and Public Policy at Harvard Law School. Mr. Sunstein has testified before congressional committees on many subjects, and he has been involved in constitution-making and law reform activities in a number of nations. Mr. Sunstein is author of many articles and books, including Republic.com (2001), Risk and Reason (2002), Why Societies Need Dissent (2003), The Second Bill of Rights (2004), Laws of Fear: Beyond the Precautionary Principle (2005), Worst-Case Scenarios (2001), Nudge: Improving Decisions about Health, Wealth, and Happiness (with Richard H. Thaler, 2008), Simpler: The Future of Government (2013) and most recently Why Nudge? (2014) and Conspiracy Theories and Other Dangerous Ideas (2014).

Podcast: Meeting of Minds Podcast Episode: Peter Thiel: “The State Contains Violence”Release date: 2022-09-29Peter Thiel, arguably the most successful tech investor of modern times, also reads widely and thinks deeply about philosophy and theology. In a fascinating follow-up to his previous interview about his mentor, Rene Girard, Thiel discusses how modern ideologies such as fascism and communism "up the dose" from murder to genocide as Christianity weakened the power of human sacrifice.  He also discusses how progressive ideologies are "stronger moves" than fascistic or reactionary ones because they weaponize Christianity's concern for victims. Thiel talks about how the state, with its origins in paganism, restrains violence by using violence and how Christians might navigate that dilemma by engaging politically but not becoming excessively entangled by it.  Finally, Thiel points out how those who promise to protect us from Apocalypse can actually accelerate its coming.  Timestamps: 01:08    Girard, Scapegoating04:00    Mimetic copies: Hitler and Stalin, Nazism and Communism, Fascism05:30    Wokeism, Christianity, and Academia10:40    Wokeism in cities, response to real estate costs. Structural Wokeism14:27    Winning and losing postures towards wokeism17:10    Wokeism is Christianity without the forgiveness18:30    Acknowledging sin even when it enables critics21:55    Holocaust as the ultimate test of forgiveness, destroying the concept of forgiveness25:52    Ignorance and forgiveness27:55    Gospels as deconstruction of philosophy32:05    Getting tangled in politics. Government and violence33:55    Can leaders behave like Christians?35:37    The katechon and accelerationism. Preterism and futurism.39:10    The Antichrist as a false katechon41:14    The Precautionary Principle: technological Armageddon45:15    Enabling Fascism to fight Communism46:12    Reagan coalition49:30    Christianity and mimetic entanglement, political atheism54:30    How much can people change?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Podcast: Meeting of Minds Podcast (LS 30 · TOP 5% )Episode: Peter Thiel: “The State Contains Violence”Release date: 2022-09-29Peter Thiel, arguably the most successful tech investor of modern times, also reads widely and thinks deeply about philosophy and theology. In a fascinating follow-up to his previous interview about his mentor, Rene Girard, Thiel discusses how modern ideologies such as fascism and communism "up the dose" from murder to genocide as Christianity weakened the power of human sacrifice.  He also discusses how progressive ideologies are "stronger moves" than fascistic or reactionary ones because they weaponize Christianity's concern for victims. Thiel talks about how the state, with its origins in paganism, restrains violence by using violence and how Christians might navigate that dilemma by engaging politically but not becoming excessively entangled by it.  Finally, Thiel points out how those who promise to protect us from Apocalypse can actually accelerate its coming.  Timestamps: 01:08    Girard, Scapegoating04:00    Mimetic copies: Hitler and Stalin, Nazism and Communism, Fascism05:30    Wokeism, Christianity, and Academia10:40    Wokeism in cities, response to real estate costs. Structural Wokeism14:27    Winning and losing postures towards wokeism17:10    Wokeism is Christianity without the forgiveness18:30    Acknowledging sin even when it enables critics21:55    Holocaust as the ultimate test of forgiveness, destroying the concept of forgiveness25:52    Ignorance and forgiveness27:55    Gospels as deconstruction of philosophy32:05    Getting tangled in politics. Government and violence33:55    Can leaders behave like Christians?35:37    The katechon and accelerationism. Preterism and futurism.39:10    The Antichrist as a false katechon41:14    The Precautionary Principle: technological Armageddon45:15    Enabling Fascism to fight Communism46:12    Reagan coalition49:30    Christianity and mimetic entanglement, political atheism54:30    How much can people change?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Peter Thiel, arguably the most successful tech investor of modern times, also reads widely and thinks deeply about philosophy and theology. In a fascinating follow-up to his previous interview about his mentor, Rene Girard, Thiel discusses how modern ideologies such as fascism and communism "up the dose" from murder to genocide as Christianity weakened the power of human sacrifice.  He also discusses how progressive ideologies are "stronger moves" than fascistic or reactionary ones because they weaponize Christianity's concern for victims. Thiel talks about how the state, with its origins in paganism, restrains violence by using violence and how Christians might navigate that dilemma by engaging politically but not becoming excessively entangled by it.  Finally, Thiel points out how those who promise to protect us from Apocalypse can actually accelerate its coming.  Timestamps: 01:08    Girard, Scapegoating04:00    Mimetic copies: Hitler and Stalin, Nazism and Communism, Fascism05:30    Wokeism, Christianity, and Academia10:40    Wokeism in cities, response to real estate costs. Structural Wokeism14:27    Winning and losing postures towards wokeism17:10    Wokeism is Christianity without the forgiveness18:30    Acknowledging sin even when it enables critics21:55    Holocaust as the ultimate test of forgiveness, destroying the concept of forgiveness25:52    Ignorance and forgiveness27:55    Gospels as deconstruction of philosophy32:05    Getting tangled in politics. Government and violence33:55    Can leaders behave like Christians?35:37    The katechon and accelerationism. Preterism and futurism.39:10    The Antichrist as a false katechon41:14    The Precautionary Principle: technological Armageddon45:15    Enabling Fascism to fight Communism46:12    Reagan coalition49:30    Christianity and mimetic entanglement, political atheism54:30    How much can people change?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

2/20/22 AM - The Lord's Prayer - Part 1 | "Precautionary Principle of Prayer" | Pastor Paul McGee

Welcome to The Nonlinear Library, where we use Text-to-Speech software to convert the best writing from the Rationalist and EA communities into audio. This is: The Long Long Covid Post, published by Zvi on February 10, 2022 on LessWrong. A while back I mentioned I'd aim to write a longer post on Long Covid and Katja Grace's post on it. This is that post. First I deal with Katja's post, then Scott Alexander's Long Covid: Much More Than You Wanted to Know. My core model of Long Covid after writing this post: Long Covid is real, but less common than many worry it is. Reports of Long Covid are often people who have symptoms, then blame them on Long Covid whether or not they even had Covid. The exception is loss of taste and smell. Long Covid severity and risk is proportional to Covid severity and risk. If you didn't notice you had Covid, you're at very very low risk for developing Long Covid. Vaccination is thus highly but incompletely protective against Long Covid. Children are thus at minimal risk. Omicron is thus less likely to cause serious Long Covid than Delta. My current estimate of the forward-looking-practical-use chance of a healthy non-elderly person getting serious, life-impacting Long Covid from a case of Omicron is about 0.2%, or 1 in 500. This number will decline further once Paxlovid is readily available. Long Covid remains the primary downside of contracting Covid while young and healthy. Diseases often have long-term negative health effects. Long Covid is not fundamentally so different from Long Other Disease. If you are worried going forward about Long Covid you should consider things like permanently not living in a city to avoid diseases. A lot of people are in poor health. It is likely worthwhile to treat your health a lot more seriously than most people do, irrespective of Covid. The Precautionary Principle carries some weight in all this. Remember that the chance of preventing a Covid case via additional Covid prevention, going forward, even with extreme measures, is not all that high. If you compare the potential costs of Long Covid to the costs of Long Covid Prevention, it is obvious the second is a bigger threat. Short-term additional vigilance is reasonable but rapidly becoming less reasonable. Using Long Covid as a reason for not returning to normal once case levels come down would not be reasonable. Katja's Post This may or may not be entirely fair, but I am going to use Katja Grace's post on LessWrong as a steelman of the case for worrying about Long Covid. It is by a thinker I respect, and is clearly advocating for the side of ‘be worried,' and seems to aim to be exhaustive. It doesn't cover every concern I've heard, but it's a lot of them. I'm placing sufficient stock by her selection process that I will focus in detail on the ones she includes. Katja assigns letters A-R to her points, and I deal with these in order. Before I begin, I'll summarize my takeaways so you can decide which sections you want to read or skip, and have perspective on what you are reading, if you want to go in non-blind. A, B, C and D establish that Long Covid exists but don't make the case about frequency or causation that they might seem to be making. They do establish that a lot of people have a lot of chronic health conditions. E is effectively punted to the section on Scott's post since it talks about Scott's estimate. F, G and H are a claim that there is a bunch of ‘dark matter' style damage being done and that it manifests in lots of additional deaths that aren't attributed to Covid. The population statistics don't match up with this, and I consider these to be selection effects or otherwise non-causal. I reminds us that lesser outcomes can also be concerning but I don't see how they can be that big a share of the overall problem. J asks about future unknowns. Given how much time has now passed, and what I see as the relevant reference classes, I don't think we need worry about this going foward, but precautionary ...

Link to original articleWelcome to The Nonlinear Library, where we use Text-to-Speech software to convert the best writing from the Rationalist and EA communities into audio. This is: The Long Long Covid Post, published by Zvi on February 10, 2022 on LessWrong. A while back I mentioned I'd aim to write a longer post on Long Covid and Katja Grace's post on it. This is that post. First I deal with Katja's post, then Scott Alexander's Long Covid: Much More Than You Wanted to Know. My core model of Long Covid after writing this post: Long Covid is real, but less common than many worry it is. Reports of Long Covid are often people who have symptoms, then blame them on Long Covid whether or not they even had Covid. The exception is loss of taste and smell. Long Covid severity and risk is proportional to Covid severity and risk. If you didn't notice you had Covid, you're at very very low risk for developing Long Covid. Vaccination is thus highly but incompletely protective against Long Covid. Children are thus at minimal risk. Omicron is thus less likely to cause serious Long Covid than Delta. My current estimate of the forward-looking-practical-use chance of a healthy non-elderly person getting serious, life-impacting Long Covid from a case of Omicron is about 0.2%, or 1 in 500. This number will decline further once Paxlovid is readily available. Long Covid remains the primary downside of contracting Covid while young and healthy. Diseases often have long-term negative health effects. Long Covid is not fundamentally so different from Long Other Disease. If you are worried going forward about Long Covid you should consider things like permanently not living in a city to avoid diseases. A lot of people are in poor health. It is likely worthwhile to treat your health a lot more seriously than most people do, irrespective of Covid. The Precautionary Principle carries some weight in all this. Remember that the chance of preventing a Covid case via additional Covid prevention, going forward, even with extreme measures, is not all that high. If you compare the potential costs of Long Covid to the costs of Long Covid Prevention, it is obvious the second is a bigger threat. Short-term additional vigilance is reasonable but rapidly becoming less reasonable. Using Long Covid as a reason for not returning to normal once case levels come down would not be reasonable. Katja's Post This may or may not be entirely fair, but I am going to use Katja Grace's post on LessWrong as a steelman of the case for worrying about Long Covid. It is by a thinker I respect, and is clearly advocating for the side of ‘be worried,' and seems to aim to be exhaustive. It doesn't cover every concern I've heard, but it's a lot of them. I'm placing sufficient stock by her selection process that I will focus in detail on the ones she includes. Katja assigns letters A-R to her points, and I deal with these in order. Before I begin, I'll summarize my takeaways so you can decide which sections you want to read or skip, and have perspective on what you are reading, if you want to go in non-blind. A, B, C and D establish that Long Covid exists but don't make the case about frequency or causation that they might seem to be making. They do establish that a lot of people have a lot of chronic health conditions. E is effectively punted to the section on Scott's post since it talks about Scott's estimate. F, G and H are a claim that there is a bunch of ‘dark matter' style damage being done and that it manifests in lots of additional deaths that aren't attributed to Covid. The population statistics don't match up with this, and I consider these to be selection effects or otherwise non-causal. I reminds us that lesser outcomes can also be concerning but I don't see how they can be that big a share of the overall problem. J asks about future unknowns. Given how much time has now passed, and what I see as the relevant reference classes, I don't think we need worry about this going foward, but precautionary ...

Thanks for listening to the BattleFest podcast - you can support us by subscribing, sharing and leaving us a review. Check back next week for more recordings from the Battle of Ideas festival 2021. IS IT TIME TO RETHINK THE PRECAUTIONARY PRINCIPLE? A new #BattleFest recording from the Battle of Ideas festival 2021: https://www.battleofideas.org.uk/session/is-it-time-to-rethink-the-precautionary-principle/ Can we treat decisions about something like a pandemic in the same way as those to do with the environment and new technologies, like artificial intelligence? Or has this pandemic shown us that we need to consider each new threat in a more holistic way, considering the economy, well-being and people's freedoms as much as the direct threat to health? Is it time to finally depoliticise precaution and treat each case as unique? Or with political alignments becoming as important as the dispassionate assessment of risk, will the precautionary principle remain another victim of the all-encompassing ‘culture wars'?

Interviews with former South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford and adjunct professor David Zaruk. Mark Sanford is a statesman who served as the governor of the state of South Carolina and served as the U.S. representative for South Carolina's 1st congressional district from 1995 to 2001. David Zaruk is an adjunct professor at Vesalius College and Facultés Universitaires St-Louis and has been an EU risk and science communications specialist since 2001, active in EU policy events from REACH and SCALE to the Pesticides Directive, from Science in Society questions to the use of the Precautionary Principle. https://geneticliteracyproject.org/2021/10/15/risk-hazard-and-precautionary-principle-why-europe-gets-crop-biotechnology-and-chemical-regulation-so-wrong/ Broadcast on Consumer Choice Radio on December 31, 2021. Syndicated on Sauga 960AM and Big Talker 106.7FM. Website: https://consumerchoiceradio.com ***PODCAST***  Podcast Index: https://bit.ly/3EJSIs3 Apple: http://apple.co/2G7avA8  Spotify: http://spoti.fi/3iXIKIS Our podcast is now Podcasting 2.0 compliant! Listen to the show using a #Bitcoin lightning wallet-enabled podcasting app (Breeze, Fountain, etc.) to directly donate to the show using the Bitcoin lightning network (stream those sats!).  More information on that here: https://podcastindex.org/apps  Produced by the Consumer Choice Center.  Support us: https://consumerchoicecenter.org/donate See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

We start looking at campaigners taking court action against governments for failing their climate targets - and whether this should these battles take place in court.  There's been a few cases of COVID at Forest Green Rovers, so we talk about what's ahead for the rest of the season.  Reindeers are starving in Lapland because of climate change - will they still be here in Christmases to come?  We talk about the sell-out debut of Sky Diamonds and what's next for Dale's latest project.  We also hear about Sea Snot for the first time - it won't be the last. 

Cass R. Sunstein is currently the Robert Walmsley University Professor at Harvard. He is the founder and director of the Program on Behavioral Economics and Public Policy at Harvard Law School. In 2018, he received the Holberg Prize from the government of Norway, sometimes described as the equivalent of the Nobel Prize for law and the humanities. In 2020, the World Health Organization appointed him as Chair of its technical advisory group on Behavioural Insights and Sciences for Health. From 2009 to 2012, he was Administrator of the White House Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs, and after that, he served on the President's Review Board on Intelligence and Communications Technologies and on the Pentagon's Defense Innovation Board. Mr. Sunstein has testified before congressional committees on many subjects, and has advised officials at the United Nations, the European Commission, the World Bank, and many nations on issues of law and public policy. He serves as an adviser to the Behavioural Insights Team in the United Kingdom. He is currently employed by the Department of Homeland Security to work on the Biden Administration's climate and immigration policies.

Interviews with former South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford and adjunct professor David Zaruk. Mark Sanford is a statesman who served as the governor of the state of South Carolina and served as the U.S. representative for South Carolina's 1st congressional district from 1995 to 2001. David Zaruk is an adjunct professor at Vesalius College and Facultés Universitaires St-Louis and has been an EU risk and science communications specialist since 2001, active in EU policy events from REACH and SCALE to the Pesticides Directive, from Science in Society questions to the use of the Precautionary Principle. https://geneticliteracyproject.org/2021/10/15/risk-hazard-and-precautionary-principle-why-europe-gets-crop-biotechnology-and-chemical-regulation-so-wrong/ Broadcast on Consumer Choice Radio on October 23, 2021. Radio: http://sauga960am.ca Radio: http://bigtalkerfm.com  Website: http://consumerchoiceradio.com ***PODCAST***  Apple: http://apple.co/2G7avA8  Spotify: http://spoti.fi/3iXIKIS  Produced by the Consumer Choice Center. Support the show: http://consumerchoicecenter.org/donate See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying join Bridget to discuss their latest book A Hunter-Gatherer's Guide to the 21st Century . They have a fascinating conversation covering how so much in evolutionary biology is obvious in retrospect, why an explicitly scientific and evolutionary understanding of who we are as humans doesn't take away the sense of awe or miraculousness of our humanity, and how the rate of change we are living through now is so great that there's really no comparison to any other point in human history. They discuss the Precautionary Principle, the function of religion, the fourth frontier, organic food, hyper-novelty, banishing your fear, what makes a good partner, and the Omega Principle. Be sure to check out their DarkHorse Podcast for more in-dept h conversations with them both.

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When people consider the harms which might be caused by technology, they often point to the "precautionary principle" as a possible way to mitigate those harms. This principle seems straight forward but once you actually try to apply it the difficulties become obvious. In particular how do you ensure that you're not delaying the introduction of beneficial technologies. How do you insure the harms of delaying technology are not greater than the harms which might be caused by that technology. In this episode we examine several examples of how this principle might be applied. It isn't easy, but it does seem like something we need to master as new technologies continue to arrive.

Mother, Author, Researcher ‘What is happening behind the curtain?' The UN Agendas, the World Economic Forum - Your Future? Giving a wider understanding of the issues facing us today, both in NZ and globally. Worth your while to listen to the whole interview. Author of ‘We are Revolting' and her new book just out ‘Under the Shadow', Antoinette lays the groundwork of her research as to what is happening on a global scale. She says she is a big picture person.  The fact that over the years, our NZ Governments, both left and right have signed us on to the United Nations Agenda21 and Agenda23 that have slipped through without there being a public discourse or debate and education of ‘we the people' as to what does this all translate into. Why the silence and why have our elected representatives not mentioned this to their constituents? Especially as this all started back in 1992. Then there is the question of what's the game plan being acted out under cover of the Covid crisis? Where and where does the World Economic Forum from Davos in Switzerland put the ‘Great Reset' in place. Where the cashless society comes into being, that by 2030 ‘we will own nothing and we will be happy' - how about - full of Joy!  Note, that both our Prime Minister and our Deputy Prime Minister have attended the World Economic Forum in Switzerland. Yet a quietened NZ MSM, ‘soothed with ample funding' from our Government discreetly looks the other way.    This is what happened - the Fourth Estate (your Media) have remained silent and tight lipped.  www.AntoinetteJames.com   With a new book just out: UNDER THE SHADOW: Agenda 21 in New Zealand New Zealand National and Labour governments have collaborated in binding the country to UN goals. National Prime Minister Jim Bolger signed Agenda 21 in 1992, without democratic debate! Labour Prime Minister Helen Clark rolled-out NCEA underpinned with UN Common Core Curriculum goals in the early 2000s, without democratic debate! National Prime Minister John Key signed Agenda 2030 in 2015, without democratic debate! Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern authored New Zealand's first Voluntary National Review 2019: An audit of the country's progress and commitment to UN 2030 dictatorship, without democratic debate! Every New Zealander's life is going to change for the worse. UNDER THE SHADOW is a 314-page exposé of Agenda 21/2030 outcomes and projections in New Zealand. This publication has over 300 quotes and citations from many documents, publications, speeches and statements. Under the Shadow gives the Agenda backstory, names the architects, explains the ideology and exposes the elites main driving force. Copies of UNDER THE SHADOW can be purchased on AMAZON or for New Zealand postal addresses, directly from the author - $35 plus P&P Having presented this info at many public meetings last year, I found the tree metaphor became an easy way to untangle while putting a handle on the very historic and complicated UN tiptoe to Agenda 2030.  This is the contents to give you a feel to what is covered - Preamble.…………………………………………………...9 Life Under the Shadow of Agenda 21..................………..15                       Religious Roots…………………....……….21                       Isms…………………………………….….....28                      One World Religion………………….…......36 Grafting of Agenda 21………………………………...........39                     Arborists………………………………………39                               Arthur Balfour……………………...…...39                               Alger Hiss………………………..….…..40                               Successive Popes………….….……….....40                               Alice Bailey……………………..…..…....43                               David Spangler……………………....…..45                               Maurice Strong…………………....……..46                               Benjamin Crème………………..……......50                               Robert Muller…………………..……......51                               Pierre Teilhard Chardin……………....….52                               U Thant………………………………....54                               House of Rothschild….……………...….55                               House of Rockefeller……………...…….58                      Hothouse effect………………...…….….….....65                               UN prayer Room………………....……..65                               Ark of Hope……………………....…….65                               Earth Charter………………...……….....67                               Gaia and the Temple of Understanding....70                               Burning Bush………………………..….71                               “Church”……………………...…….…..72 Different Pots Same Plant…..….……….…….………....…..76                       League of Nations……………..……………..76                       United Nations………………………………78                       Rio Earth Summit…………………..………..84 Agenda 21 Metaphor….................….….….……...….....….....89                      The Roots….……………………..……..........90                              Of manipulation…………………….…..90                              Of indoctrination…………………...........91                              Of propaganda…………………………..91                              Of coercion…………………..………….92                                      The Trunk……..……………....………….…111                              Social Justice……………………….…...116                              Economic Justice…………………….…119                              Environmental Justice……………….….120                       The Branches………….……….……..……..126                              Earth Charter……………………….…..126                              IUCN…………………………....……...127                              ICLEI……………………………….….132                       The Fruit………......……….………..….........136                               NZ Voluntary National Review………..137                               Ardern, Goal Keepers Address………...139                               Sustainable Development Goals……….143                               SDG 1………………………...…….…144                               SDG 2…………………………...….…146                               SDG 3………………………….….…..151                               SDG 4………………………….…..….152                               SDG 5……………………………..…..157                               SDG 6……………………………....…159                               SDG 7…………………………..….….164                               SDG 8………………………………....172                               SDG 9………………………………....181                               SDG 10…………………………….….185                               SDG 11………………………………..189                               SDG 12………………………………..194                               SDG 13………………………………..198                               SDG 14………………………………..205                               SDG 15…………………………....…...209                               SDG 16………………………………..215                               SDG 17………………………………..220                               SDG 18 kept secret……………………224                               Kiwi Fruit…………………………..….230                               Waikato Initiative…………………..…..230                               Wilding…………………………..…….235                                Urban property grab…………….……241                                Smart Growth……………….………..249                                Significant Nature Areas……....……….250                       Fertiliser……………….....…..................…….254                                 Think Globally………………...….…..254                                  Millennium Declaration……….……..254                                  Publicprivate Partnerships…….….….256                       Staking………………………………….…..260                              Hegelian Dialectic…………….……..…260                              Delphi Technique…………….…..…….261                              Gaslighting…………………….…….…263                              Precautionary Principle………..……......266                      Pruning………………………….………….270                        Weeding………………………………........272                              Protestant Christianity…………..……..272                              Thinkers……………………………….273                              Nationalism……………………………275                              Truth…………………………………..275 Time to fortify the Pa……………………………………..279 Axe to the Root: TIMBER!........................................................293   Final Word………………………………………………..303 Of course COVID, WEF, AI all fit into the jigsaw puzzle of secrecy and word trickery. I am a "big picture" commentator. Understanding the big picture makes it easier to understand the incremental steps by our gov and councils to ultimate end-game of communism that will best be described as a 'technocratic oligarchical scientific dictatorship'. Antoinette has also written another book in 2019 called WE ARE REVOLTING: ‘A Red Pill Read'  Paperback – January 4, 2019 · Kindle $14.99 Read with Our Free App · Paperback $35.26.  Antoinette states that in 2019 the Prime Minister of NZ wrote NZ's First Voluntary National Review to the United Nations - which is basically an audit of NZ and saying to the UN bosses where we are at, as a country. She says that it has all the basic feel good language - but behind that are ‘word definitions' - and that there is a lot of word trickery going on. Shared Responsibility and Public Private  - what do these words really mean? That key words are frequently placed in this Agenda's schedule - words that give us the ‘feel good vibe' such as ‘wellbeing' and the question is posited what does the word ‘wellbeing' translate to for the elite at the top of the UN, plus bankers and movers and shakers? What does ‘wellbeing' mean to the elite at the top of the pyramid of power? Have a listen - because what Antoinette says is very important for us all to take in. From Tims point of view as the interviewer  - I did not want to get in and argue points - I was instead offering a platform that is based on Freedom of Expression - and I know that we are being limited as time passes. Whereas as Antionette says, as a Christian that we need to be taking care of human life. That we are sacred beings - (Tim believes we are souls inhabiting bodies - (see his previous interviews about souls and near death and out of the body  experiences.) Note that in most cases Atheists refuse to debate this). Antoinette states that we are in the decade of eco restoration and that is a very good thing in Tims estimation - however it's all about how the top of the ‘pyramid of power' is going about doing this. So this is a very important point to understand - we need both - but how the Agenda's are being promulgated is that the Governments are making no effort to educate the public. There is no use of the Fourth Estate to educate humanity of what is the issue and what is at stake here. There is a balance … we have to take in the precautionary principle in situations - like the non growing of Genetically Engineered  food in NZ  - But, when it comes to Covid the authorities are not following this themselves. Because in NZ for example, the Pfizer injection has not been passed as safe by the FDA and that it is still in an ‘experimental phase' as per Med Safe here in NZ. so there is a huge in-congruence with how our elected servants are governing us - some will say ‘ruling us'. The current Government's understanding of Agenda21 according to Antoinette is that their adherence to Agenda21 is to the restoration of the environment as it was before man walked on our planet. This is seen as going too far - too fast - especially with 7.8 billion beings that need water, feeding, housing, health and education - etc. Antoinette mentions Rosa Koire on NZer Vinny Eastwoods show. link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MPKl1yskKs    In this interview Antoinette also mentions:  Bill and Melinda Gates - at the Goal Keepers Conference 2019 - where our Prime Minister commits NZ to the Agenda21 Goals.   That at present NZ is now locking away significant natural areas … But, this is not being done with open transparent, local, and district participation of the land owners and the farming or agricultural community. It is being imposed. This interview talks about top down control coming across NZ's rural sector - South Waikato for instance has been given a plan to control its water - (and we need plans to clean up our water) - however rural people are not being kept in the loop and the authorities are forcing the issue by initiating local bylaws etc without having open discussions with the locals.  This is coming from the top down. This is not localised democracy. Antoinette - stresses that Local Government is not doing the work around having meetings with local rural residents or local town hall meetings and giving people a heads up on what it would like to do or what is actually going on. It all appears to - being put in place and that everyone in the community just has to comply. Like - it's being forced upon the people. The rural sector is about to be managed … where previously in a localised community district or region - ‘we the people' governed ourselves by democratic principles. However this does not appear to be happening.  What we hear in this interview is that we are being ‘Ruled by an elite' - that sees us in many ways as useless eaters and that we do not have a soul … this is why management of the future is being set up - because in many ways we as a society have not been alert and have let our local democratic system deteriorate, by not voting - to such a degree that ‘others' have stepped in and in many ways subtly hijacked the process.  This Interview includes: The Fabian Society and the connection to the Royal Society … Article 61 and the Nuremberg code  He Whakaputanga. The flying of the 1835 Flag, when 34 Maori Chiefs came together to re-emphasise that they were independent.  Antoinette says she raises this flag at her home. This interview covers a vast number of issues that have not been given any coverage or discourse in NZ. Once we in this country were very keen on participating in our young democracy. However, you can see how the voter turnout at local government elections has fallen dramatically over the last 50 years and it is at this level that change is being forced upon us, because there are fewer checks and balances.  Antoinette as a mother and someone who has witnessed the decline in all areas of family, education, health and community life over the decades has decided to make a stand. She has to be acknowledged and empowered for standing up to a system that has lost its way and or been infiltrated. Well worth grappling with the subject matter she brings to us all. Because we are in the grips of and irregular warfare. Mentioned in this interview is the link between 5G and Covid. https://www.rfglobalnet.com/doc/fixed-wireless-communications-at-60ghz-unique-0001 https://transition.fcc.gov/Bureaus/Engineering_Technology/Documents/bulletins/oet70/oet70a.pdf Also, that there is in place a new Nuremberg Trial coming due to the unlawful acts of Government and Health officials around Covid. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJXCG3tXwj4     Dr Reiner Fuellmich    https://reesereport.com/    - 4 minute videos to get the point across. There is an axiom that states - The means justifies the ends, not the ends justifies the means.  You will find that both Facists and Communists will go with ‘the ends justifying the end' - whilst those who believe in virtue and principled morality - will always go with - ‘the means justifying the end.'  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZC0NOljRWQ&t=282s     Vox  2014   Police State Contagion:   NOTES: Tim mentions that in 1992 at the Rio UN Conference in Brazil, that 192 Nations signed up to Agenda 21 - Under the auspices of George Herbert Bush - who as the Head of the CIA spent 12 years in the Whitehouse - 8 years as Vice President and 4 years as President. With his son George W Bush having another 8 years as President in the Whitehouse. What were these insiders doing during this time? www.AntoinetteJames.com

We compare the precautionary principle approach of obsessing over avoiding one negative outcome to the economic way of thinking, which entails examining the seen and unseen consequences of each action, and is a much more sane, safe, and intelligent way of approaching complex issues. We examine two contemporary episodes of global mass hysteria to see how dangerously reckless and counterproductive using the precautionary principle is.

What is the precautionary principle? Thanks for asking! While over 50% of people in the UK have received at least one coronavirus vaccine dose, the EU is lagging far behind at 16%. Just two days ago, the World Health Organisation described the rollout in Europe as being “unacceptably slow”. The delays are down to several factors, one of which is the precautionary principle.In mid-March, 18 countries suspended use of the Oxford AstraZeneca vaccine, including some of the EU’s biggest member states like Spain, Germany and France. They cited the precautionary principle as justification. This followed reports of blood clots in some patients who had received a dose of the vaccine. What’s the link between the vaccine and the precautionary principle then? Couldn’t you argue the EU leaders were right to exercise caution? In under 3 minutes, we answer your questions!To listen to the last episodes, you can click here:What is poverty porn? What is Stop Asian Hate?Who is Ousmane Sonko?A podcast written and realised by Joseph Chance. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

With many countries pausing the AstraZeneca vaccine distribution, the precautionary principle is again at the forefront. Nikos discusses its history and how it fits with various negative philosophical trends'.Consider supporting our work by becoming a member: https://aynrandcentre.co.uk/membership/

The precautionary principle refers to the idea that public policies should limit innovations until their creators can prove they will not cause any potential harms or disruptions. The problem with the precautionary principle is that uncertainty about the future and risks always exists. Living in constant fear of worst-case scenarios means that best-case scenarios will never come about. But can the precautionary principle really lead to deaths? Yes, it can. Literally and figuratively! Advocates of the precautionary principle might believe that doing nothing in the face of uncertainty seems like the safer choice. However without risk, there can be no reward. Generally speaking, it is almost never wise to completely prevent experiences that might offer important benefits that are difficult to foresee! How Many Lives Are Lost Due to the Precautionary Principle? - HumanProgress https://www.nber.org/papers/w26395 https://www.amazon.com/Golden-Rice-Imperiled-Birth-Superfood/dp/1421433036 --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/nadjmat/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/nadjmat/support

Quick Overview Ms. von Weizsäcker expresses how she has enjoyed listening and learning through her participation in many negotiations and drafting processes such as the biodiversity convention, biosafety protocol, the Earth Charter, and more. Her elaboration on the meaning and importance of the Precautionary Principle, the Polluter Pays Principle and the Environment Democracy Principle is full of insights and clarity. She reflects on the power dynamics in some negotiations and also in the causes and on the consequences of environmental degradation. On the interactions among different actors to move forward in the implementation of these principles, she uses an example in the COVID context. She outlines some of the deep challenges that every organization faces, including finding the right level of engagement and responsibility, building consensus, and listening to the voices of the unheard. Towards the end, she encourages people to travel to the unknown with all the navigating tools and to act on the best available knowledge, as the world cannot afford to wait.

The Precautionary Principle is being used to justify the closure of state borders in Australia to deal with COVID-19. Should the Precautionary Principle, which many argue is relevant to climate change, be extended to COVID-19? Economics Explored host Gene Tunny discusses the Precautionary Principle and COVID-19 with Joe Branigan, Director of Tulipwood Economics.Links relevant to the conversation include:The precautionary principle should not be used as a basis for decision-makingJohn Quiggin on Complexity, Climate Change and the Precautionary PrincipleThe Cost-benefit RevolutionCOVID19: Getting Australia Safely Back to WorkCancer screening, heart attack and stroke presentations down in Victoria during coronavirus pandemicThe silent death toll of COVID-19 revealed: Huge 25 per cent jump in suicides each year

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With human health including animal and vegetation health, being paramount, how can we organise a moratorium on Elon Musk and the current 5G satellite deployment? That in their thousands they are being launched into low earth orbit and particularly over Australia and New Zealand, why the hurry and this continuing question ‘where is the independent health research?’ This was one of the most revealing yet shocking interviews that I have engaged in. I talk with  barrister Ray Broomhall from Tasmania who is part of a group of 14 lawyers Australia wide. They have voluntarily come together to educate the Australian public to the 5G ‘health dangers’ and also to advise them of a way forward  to halt 5G towers and then bring a stop to this 5G deployment across their whole country. That no until ‘independent research and studies’ give this technology a clean bill of health. NZ is also experiencing this same 'imposed' roll out of the global 5G network - with Government, Media and Telcos all in lockstep, to deploy it across the country. Tim mentions that he had just come off the phone after speaking with Steffan Browning Ex Green MP who 'by chance' early one evening very recently happened to witness up in the early evening sky the deployment of a whole number of satellites and at first he was in awe of them as he gazed at this spectacle - and then he went into shock and realised that this was a violation and that this was not right - and so I asked Ray about this procedure of having 40,000 more satellites in near earth orbit constantly raking us with their wireless frequencies. Ray says that Elon Musk is connected to even another company and he has just got approval from the International Communications Union as there was a world radio communications conference in Egypt last November in 2019. That NZ and Australia were party to this conference - and all agreed that Elon Musk now had approval to operate at the 60 gigahertz band. Which basically means it is a Free license type of arrangement where at the moment for wifi in homes - you can have it at 2.4 - out to 5 gigahertz - and the authorities have now increased it to the new wavelength band to 60 gigahertz. You will find that all smart technology will now have chips in them which will compliment the 50 gigahertz frequency that satellites will operate at. And you will find that wifi modems and mobile phones, laptops etc will be operating at 60 gigahertz as well. However Ray believes that Musk is actually going to add another 20,000 satellites and increase it to 60,000 in total. Tim mentions 'they' are using the 'global commons' which is the upper reaches of the atmosphere to do what they are doing - but they have not got permission from both myself and Ray so how do they get this license to be able to 'overrule' the people down here on the surface of the earth? Ray says this is what people do not realise, that there is legislation - particularly in NZ as we have the 'Outer Space and the High Altitude Activities Act of 2017 - which he says provided some sort of reassurance for NZ in regards to not only satellites but also in regard to high altitude platform stations and he say that listeners need to know that there is more than just satellites that are a concern - up in the heavens so to speak. There is a thing called high altitude platform stations or HAPS or High Altitude Pseudo Satellites. These are not actually satellites as such but they are actually drones - which are about 80 metres in length - they fly around the 20 kilometre altitude mark in the stratosphere - so they are well above the clouds - they are solar powered but they are designed as part of the 5G roll out with all these 40,000 new Elon Musk satellites. What they do is that they are each the equivalent to 1,800 towers and they operate in a 200 kilometres radius (and our Government and especially the 4th Estate our media TV, Radio and Newspapers in NZ are exceptionally quiet about sharing this critical information.) (No surprises here). They are actually launching them from Australia from a base in Wyndham as well as from Hawaii and he says the corporations are 'rushing' to put up these high altitude platforms and that every 200 kilometres there is going to be one of these circling up in the air and they remain for about 3 months up there - then they are replaced with another. Whilst they then come down and land - get overhauled and revamped ready for the next assignment. So it’s More than just Satellites They are going to be operating at a whole conglomerate of frequencies - both high and low - from the one signal - from 60 gigahertz all the way down to your mobile phones etc like 2G, 3G, 4G, 5G - all combined - but not only sending data - but wireless power transfer as well. He says listeners need to know what this means. He says that in essence they are sending electrical energy down from these high altitude platforms ... so that our phones will not need to be plugged into the wall to be powered up. They will be charged automatically - by the airwaves - the electricity - like autonomous vehicles, plus other devices in your home thus eliminating power cords to the wall. Everything is eventually going to be powered, via the air. So 5G is far more than what people realise. Our phones are going to be transmitters and receivers - and our modems meshed into the network that will be totally integrated into all the small transmitters on power poles outside on your street across all towns and cities - they will be ubiquitous - and basically the whole atmospheric envelope that envelops our planet will be one vast electronic 'cloud' of electronic data pulsing at increasing frequencies ...all at the same time - they will also be integrated into the macro system of the larger towers that we see dotted everywhere which he says they are erecting them in the thousands at the moment. So with overhead platforms and in a higher orbit satellites - this is all part of one integral unit - this is what 5G portends So where is mother nature in all of this? He encourages you to do your own research. Ray mentions that the WHO in 2002 in a report on Microwaves and cancer said that Children should not be exposed to anything over .3 of a micro Tesla. Now this is a magnetic field (we are surrounded by one of many). Especially anything over.3 of a micro Tesla becomes problematic. Listen to this broadcast as it is imperative that you make the effort - especially if you love your children and what could cause lymphatic leukaemia. Some mobile phones operate at 6,200 micro Tesla’s - then things become very serious. So there is a huge disconnect between what the WHO says and what is being put into children's homes. The Australian Radiation Protection and Nuclear Safety Agency ARPANSA in Australia is the regulatory authority that NZ is part of in regards to standards. https://www.arpansa.gov.au/about-us  Listen to the conundrum of different standards between ICNIRP the International Commission on Non-Ionizing Radiation Protection Icnirp.org - that Basically says that 100 micro Tesla is the public safety standard BUT ONLY FOR SHORT TERM effects.  For long term effects the WHO recommends .3 of a micro Tesla - so there is a real problem here. Yet in Australia and here in NZ, ARPANSA are following the ICNERP thus it's an issue here in relation to long term exposure to electromagnetic radiation. That Ray's concern with his clients and his colleagues clients, is the huge exposure issue. Oxygen depletion at 60 gigahertz - stating that when one gets exposed to 60 gigahertz research states it depletes 98% of the oxygen that it irradiates into - which is a real concern. Saying this is not a conspiracy theory and that dormant viruses are activated by electromagnetic radiation. For Example: The Epstein Barr virus is asleep in all of us and when it's exposed to non ionising radiation - he says it becomes activated. Epstein Barr virus is 'herpes.' He mentions vaccinations that the antibodies etc for vaccinations are made in animal embryos rabbits, chickens, rats, monkeys etc and if there is a latent virus possibly inside these tissues - in the vaccination, that is how it could possibly be transferred to humans. Plus we can see that the electro radiation can activate dormant viruses - and he is not suggesting that this happened in Covid - but there is a real concern that by exposing the planet and everybody to this radiation - that there could be more repercussions. Listen. Wireless Towers in Australia - Doctors are now coming to the conclusion that these impose an extreme risk of harm to health and ARPANSA are aware of this... That the Telco industry is following ARPANSA and are failing to listen to the medical practitioners and Doctors are saying that if people are exposed to this radiation. This is becoming a serious issue. Especially with regard to leukemia. NOTE: There is not one medical practitioner that sits on the ARPANSA board. They have a disclaimer - do a search and type up ‘ARPANSA disclaimer’ - you will find it says very clearly - that it is not set up to give health advice on electromagnetic radiation and non ionising bands etc - you best go see your qualified medical practitioner. They state it is only for educational purposes - ONLY. Telecos - Being Held Up for Assault? There is a Harassment Act 1997 here in NZ. In Queensland the Law simply classifies that any person who applies force against another without that person's consent - that it's classified as assault. In Qld applied force includes heat, light, electrical energy in any other substance or thing. So Ray says any electromagnetic radiation or electromagnetic energy comes under that interpretation/criteria So technically that can be classed as assault. YOU can get restraint orders against Telcos ... Listen how doctors in Australia are using common sense mechanisms that are actually in place. Check out Doctor Bruce Hocking … in an ARPANSA document. Hear Ray talk on the brain's synapse activity can occur at 0.75 volts per metre. Nerves can be effected at 6 volts and that the heart can be affected at 12 volts and be a serious health issue You just have to Listen to this interview to grasp both the seriousness and the scope. What To Do Go to your doctor and make a statement. If concerned about self and children re exposure from this tower etc then ask the doctor to assess the situation and come to conclusion. Ray says Doctors has stopped towers in their tracks Listen to a case of 8 doctors who happened to be living in one street in Australia that were opposed to 5G - they had a community meeting with neighbours with 13 doctors attending in all - saying No - and they got the tower removed. Ended up that Telco stopped the deployment of 2,500 small cells installations across Australia Physicians for Safe Technology https://mdsafetech.org/ Have a peruse of their site. Leukaemia is a big problem. Do your own research. There are 250 different FB groups in Australia, discussing the deployment of 5G Ray said that we need to Exercise the Precautionary Principle and have a Moratorium until independent research gives a 100% assurance that 5G is safe. (which presently, it is not). Go to your Local Council especially in towns and small cities and educate them. In Australia now forming a political party called NO 5G. Regarding Satellites passing overhead insurance is needed for rockets leaving and also deploying satellites. Listen to the last closing minutes of this video about insurance costs in space. This was one of the most riveting interviews I have done on technology and the imposition of it on the human race. We have to become really aware that technology does not need nature to work. You can see that on the Moon and Mars. However, we are all born of nature and that all biota within the biosphere require a balanced healthy ecology and environment for the web of life to homeostatically flourish and continue. This is an exceptionally important interview for the health of the human race and all precious life on our planet. www.5g.org.nz   Next Weeks Interview: Aotearoa Water Action https://www.aotearoawateraction.org.nz/ Who owns NZ's water? What is the NZ commons? Overseas Water Corporations are pumping away drinking water and paying virtually nothing for this ‘taonga’ - resource. Who are they and who is allowing consent for this practice?

Russ Roberts is an economist and the host of EconTalk. Show notes Selected links •Follow Russ Roberts: Website | Twitter •EconTalk •Macroeconomic Patterns and Stories, by Ed Leamer •Fooled By Randomness, by Nassim Taleb •Systemic Risk of Pandemic Via Novel Pathogens -- Coronavirus', paper by Joe Norman, Yaneer Bar-Yam, and Nassim Taleb •'To philosophize is to learn how to die', essay by Montaigne •How Adam Smith Can Change Your Life, by Russ Roberts Topics discussed •When and how did EconTalk begin? 8:55 •Has interviewing over 750 people made Russ a better or more effective person? 13:59 •How to really understand an idea. 32:00 •What has Russ learned from Nassim Taleb? 35:43 •The Precautionary Principle. 42:03 •The lockdown dilemma. 48:38 •The Precautionary Principle again. 1:11:52 •Is Russ afraid of death? 1:18:49 •What has Russ done to improve his craft as an interviewer? 1:27:18 •Where was Russ born and what did his parents do? 1:48:21 •Why did Russ study economics? 1:49:52 •Narrative economics. 1:51:13 •Who are the most important economists for non-economists to know? 1:57:12 •How does Russ think about what he does? 2:02:31 •Vipassana meditation. 2:06:26 •When would Russ recommend economics as an undergraduate degree? 2:17:18 •Adam Smith's distinction between being loved and being lovely. 2:21:14

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One of the common divisions in our modern global societies is whether a community is resistant towards change and innovation or accepting of it. What do genetically modified food, children adopted by LGBT families, and abandoning coal mining for renewable energy have in common? They are all progressive plans that require a society that is open to new things; however, is accepting all things new necessarily the key to progress and life satisfaction? In this episode of Beyond the Present podcast Dan and Poujix discuss this issue in depth and explain why the optimum approach is the moderate one that is open to new things but is still rooted in the tried and true methods of the recent past.

The COVID lockdown has been on many levels a ‘planetary catharsis’  Greek katharsis, from kathairein ‘cleanse’, from katharos ‘pure’. As a GP working from his home clinic he was able to assess and help patients, but fortunately did not have any with COVID:19. NZ’ loss of life has fortunately been low at 22 deaths. Life is slowly opening up again. But, Robin is now dealing with the fall-out from the lock down. This interview starts quietly however it was not long before it ramped up and some very potent information was shared that reminds us that we are in many ways being overtaken by technology that far exceeds our knowingness. To the degree that those whom possess it and deploy it, lack the consciousness of what they are doing. Thus the world has changed radically. Those with existing anxieties and depression - have increased and are overwhelming. This situation has affected our physical health and immunity due to delayed treatment which also causes more anxiety.  Younger people in general have not been affected by COVID although there have been rare cases. Medical and nursing staff have been affected especially in close areas, where they are working with extremely limited social distancing. Robin mentioned that due to the increased fear mode where we retreat into ourselves, even to child-like instincts - that this precedes the development of our rational brain that oversees everything. Our frontal lobe or cortex, can take stock of our emotions and in the face of fear we are very very vulnerable - especially if we do not have a great say in our current situation and we are locked away from being in any proactive role. That the majority of the population is very vulnerable, not so much now to the virus per see, but the control of the systems and also politics and corporations. And we are watching this unfold on a daily basis. We are also seeing contradictions - Donald Trump not wearing a face Mask yet Dr Fauci and Dr Birx wearing masks and the latter are perceived as representing big Pharma and big Medicine. So there is this contradiction going on. Robin said it is important for peer reviewed studies among peers to get to the correct diagnosis and healing modality. We notice two days after this interview that the WHO has no interest in testing the viability of Hydroxychloroquine, because the WHO is invested with Bill Gates and his Foundation and is wanting to vaccinate the 7.7 billion humans who inhabit our planet - and to continue this for every over virus that may arise into the future. At present there are a huge number of scientific papers coming out every day - especially in the US with contradictory statements and without complete peer reviewed processes.  As a result  the global public are now being exposed to a confusing amount of information - saying, wear gloves, masks and social distancing and another comes out equally - forcefully saying - that’s all wrong! MSM Controlling the Narrative Which Robin says is how we get the evidence and then peruse it to evolve the science - the problem we have is that MSM is presenting it in a black and white terms. They are presenting it the way - that their narrative wants to present it.’  They are not converting this information in a particular adult way  and that version can not be challenged  via mainstream media - they in essence control the narrative across all MSM, and that means any alternative viewpoints are not able to challenge them. Robin continues saying that they may think that they are protecting the public - but that is not the way to behave. Professor’s Computer Model Gets It Wrong Professor Neil Fergusson of London’s Imperial College ran a computer scenario - that freaked out the world - saying millions were going to die -  basically causing the world economy to shut off and go into lock down. The result is, we will be picking up the pieces for years to come as an impact of his over estimation. But, not only that - we see people who originally were supporting the lock down, disobeying the precautions that were put in place and instead openly flaunting the so called lock-down. So there were two scenarios - one for the ordinary people who were doing what they thought was right, whilst the authorities openly abused the situation as per the NZ Minister of Health going on a cross town jaunt to ride his bike, as a local example. Same thing happened in Britain and even Barack Obama playing golf whilst Michelle was saying on TV - stay at home! Entitlement and the Abuse of Power This NZ Minister doing what he wished is a classical state of ‘entitlement’.  This Robin mentions is an example of narcissistic personality disorders and psychological  disorders - and these people are being exposed … and people are quite rightly asking questions about this!. Universities in Bed with Word Technology Corporations It has also been revealed in the last two weeks that London’s Imperial College has a sponsorship deal with Huawei the giant Chinese tech and surveillance corporation to the tune of 5 million pounds and they are in collaboration with other world major offshore tech corporations. Plus, we also know that Bill Gates and his Foundation have granted Imperial College US$ 30 million as of March of this year. So we are seeing within the academic circles the state of tertiary education - basically around the world, being dependent on technology corporations. That their narrative is how we are all going to be ‘guided’ and progressed into the 4th Industrial Revolution of AI and dependent on 5G wavelength and above. etc etc. http://www.chinabankingnews.com/2020/05/21/huawei-enters-5million-5g-ai-cloud-tie-up-with-imperial-college-london/ https://needtoknow.news/2020/05/bogus-covid-predictive-models-are-funded-by-the-bill-and-melinda-gates-foundation/    Scroll right down this post! Artificial Intelligence (AI) is being Enforced on Humanity AI, the Internet of Things, Social credit surveillance, cashless society, mining of human energy and thoughts for cryptocurrency. This is being done by using specific psychopathic seduction techniques. Robin goes on to say that it’s a steady progression across multiple disciplines, platforms and modalities and areas into an artificially intelligence controlled world. This is where both the billionaires of Silicon Valley and the Chinese from a diametrically different perspective are wanting to herd the human race towards and they are now not wanting to wait for 2030. Totalitarian Tiptoe Happening Now The totalitarian tiptoe is now a giant leap forward that has been sprung upon us over the last few weeks. In other words humanity unknowingly are enveloped in a controlled ‘technical fog’ and we are on the receiving end of it all - Like it or not. He quotes Naomi Klein who in dealing with a high tech corporation in Maryland in the USA , now sees humans as being ‘bio hazards’ where as (sterile) machines are not. This is where it is all heading - and that is ‘human-less and contactless technology.’ It has become the Time of the Machines … He goes on to say if you talk about the Corona virus and 5G in the same breath - you are shut down! Yet, whilst the lock down all the tech corporations have been making hay while the sun shines. Because they can still work remotely and all the systems are virtually in place - plus fibrotic cables globally - so super fast media is at their fingertips. They have 24/7 ubiquitous global connectivity. The Battle for the Soul of our Planet is Full On. Meanwhile the battle for the soul of our planet has ramped up. It’s a hybrid of what Biblical Prophecy is about - and instead of arsenals of armaments and nuclear missiles - it’s the invisibles - it’s about frequencies and viruses and fear - that, which can not be seen. It’s hugely psychological too. The dark is extraordinary deceptive and it is being fought out mainly in the USA. The Deep State have also been in bed with China too. Heaps of deception everywhere. In the UK there is the  77th Brigade takeover of the UK Government. https://www.ukcolumn.org/article/british-military-information-war-waged-their-own-population We are in an Existential Crisis on a Global Scale. Robin says that those who are looking deep and doing the critical thinking - the serious homework and the serious research - are being gaslighted (another psychopathic trait) as being ‘conspiracy theorists.’ You have to listen to the interview - for as an Medical Doctor, Robin’s message is - we are being railroaded by huge tech corporations that are shunting us all into a giant omnipresent frequency cloud that is global in scope and we will be relentlessly bombarded and fried by untested frequencies coming at us from not only our ordinary surroundings like 5G towers but from satellites from space as well. Not only this, but because of our reluctance to look this challenge head on we are also not being able to get out in front of the narrative. Because MSM shuts us out. As you will notice, we will never have this discussion on TVONE - TV3 , Radio NZ or the NZ Herald - because they are all connected to ‘vested interests’ that do not feel any connection to humanity, or biota or the natural world as such. Nature in many ways has no part to play in the world of AI other than as a dead backdrop to our daily drama. This 4th Industrial Revolution is not just based on frequencies for ‘supposedly’ bettering our life - they are based on highly focussed data connections from machine to machine. Like the Borg. See Star Trek.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borg The human heart and aspirations are not factored into this - other than to seduce the unwary to the table and then be ensnared with this tech. Like your young ones with their flash new ‘smart’ phones. Dr Robin say that when it comes out that these frequencies pose a danger to our children, our grandchildren and the unborn then it will be imperative that people understand - because when the human race does … it will never ever allow these wireless frequencies be deployed or used. Calling out the Lies But also … that all the tech industries lies that are being promulgated are not sustainable - so let’s keep going - let’s keep explaining and let’s apply the Precautionary Principle. Governmental Double Standards? As a result of this coronavirus we have seen enacted in the extreme - measures of closing down our country and confining us to our homes over the last two months. So why do we not apply the same precautionary principle to the ongoing increasing amounts of non ionising radiation - to a whole population in a way that is impossible to isolate ourselves from?     That the powers that be - can not have it both ways. If we have the precautionary principle for the virus - then to be consistent we have to apply this to 5G as well. Because there are increasingly more papers coming out exposing the dangers of this technology, than there ever was for the coronavirus. We can note that MSM media have become very quiet about Elon Musk’s super status of putting up 33,000 satellites in geostationary orbit so as to rake and microwave our planet with 5 G frequencies. That journalist and their ilk today have kowtowed to money over content as well and duck any controversial content for fear of being pushed out of the gala tent. There are very few NZ journalists who will go hard against the government in power, for fear they will never be invited to the many lavish functions that are frequently put on. Like, not wanting to be excluded from the revelry. ;) No Journalists in NZ prepared to stand up? Robin mentions Mike King, a NZ comedian who was fronting for the NZ Pork Board selling products made from pigs. Well, someone got to Mike and showed him the horrendous conditions that pigs were living in and being exploited here in clean green happy NZ. When he realised the slavery and inhumane way pigs were being treated he courageously said enough and resigned. Now where is that ONE JOURNALIST in NZ who will stand up regarding 5G for instance and state that they want to produce a balanced article on the  health dangers of radiation of wireless radiation - we only want one of two to do this and why is this not happening? Hello? That virtually reality is coming. We have Siri from Apple and Samsung have Bixby…. plus Amazon has Alexa - sweet sensuous compelling voices …  Holographic Assistances. The New York Times is working to have news readers that are holographic that will read the news (or their version of the news.) - and do exactly what is programmed in them for today. Like have the correct intonations - show empathy in the right places, smile warmly when required - the timbre of their voice, sound caring - as this becomes the new normal. That this will be the reality and we will think the news reader is real and if she is pretty enough and he handsome as well - we will eventually fall in love with them - especially as they ever so subtly flirt with us and possibly sound more and more like our best friend. We are entering a realm where humans are to be ever so subtly lobotomised out of the equation and artificial intelligence - takes over. And this great leap forward has happened in the last 6 weeks - due to the virus setting the stage as to how to communicate with a captured fair stricken audience. We are going to see a radical shift in the future for humanity if Silicon Valley and AI robots have their chance to get into the driver's seat, Trans humanism - where Soul is to be superseded by machines? This will speed up the move into trans humanism they say, by 2030. But, they want to get it happening as soon as possible - the reason being ‘they’ want a captured audience who have lost their spiritual connection to a greater reality. That with this AI tech, that trillionaires will emerge from this - hence the race is on …that 29 people even now, have more wealth than that the bottom 3rd of our planet's population. That Mom & Pop shops will disappear now in this post COVID phase and big tech will have its robotic warehouses filling texted orders and the shift will be monumental. It has been semi like this for 30 years plus - in some countries   Bill Gates vaccines for all 7.7 billion of us. Will we be further dumbed down with infotainment and ex-rated movies and subsidised cannabis? (Go and do you own research on DuckduckGo.com  Hydroxychloroquine -  Big Pharma does not like it as it is extremely cheap, even though it has been around for decades. Every drug has a downside and an upside. Trump when photographed wears no mask, whilst Dr Fauci and Dr Birx have masks and because they are the face of big Pharma, pull rank on Trump, because they are doctors. Over the last 6 weeks of this crisis, doctors in the field in the US have come out on social media telling that many people who die of other diseases are being tested for COVID and if they find any trace of COVID are pronounced that their death was attributed to COVID, yet they may have died of a heart attack or cancer. For this they are being banned. This is a huge scandal.* This has been found out and exposed in Italy. https://www.breitbart.com/health/2020/05/27/italy-96-of-coronavirus-fatalities-had-other-chronic-illnesses/    Also the medical model in NZ have Doctors consultations last about 6 minutes - when 30 minutes is not enough. This too is a scandal. The Human Gut and our Alimentary canal. The Human biome - has trillions of viruses in our gut - but balance occurs - we are an ecosystem of viruses, bacteria and fungi. They all live within us and they mutate and we would not be alive without these viruses. They are part of our makeup.  Listen to the story about the placenta virus - that without this virus - every mother would reject their baby. We discussed that New York city in the US were having large losses people* Tim ventured because people are in a high rise city - there are very few gardens and thus factory and industrial food is eaten and it is often devoid of life force and vitality. 5G Regarding 5G and its effects there are so many cofactors and we need to be looking and researching all these things. But, so many are deferring to the WHO and WHO says 5G is ok.  There is even a conflict of interest with the Prime Minister's Science Adviser - Listen. The Cashless Society NZ, Australia and Sweden, are very close to switching to cashless. What are the ramifications?  NZ youth now just don’t carry cash and use EFTPOS and this is going to have huge adverse ramifications for ‘activists or anyone who goes against the Corporate and Government narrative.’  YOUR CARD IS DECLINED. Please go to the nearest Police Station, Listen AI - Universities in NZ  Are eradicating the arts and philosophical departments, they have been cleansed of anything to do with higher mind and values. We are losing the higher arts. Massey UnIversity here too.  The classics are gone including pure science and health science as well as the biological sciences and marine biology. All these to be replaced by an AI Innovation block. Huawei are involved in this ….that NZ in the future will be AI run with the Internet of Things Robin says we are sovereign beings - we have to become super aware ASAP  We will not be able to elect anyone to save us - as the system has all been set up - not in our favour. The 4th Industrial Revolution however - can be cured with goodness - love and compassion - and common sense We have to guide the machines to help us - also to not divide us …  Robin says not the other way around but essentially we need a conscious awakening They - the Tech world, are exposing their lies very early in the game - so being alert we can see their plans Next Week. Glen Atkinson http://garudabd.org/ His wish is to show how Living on Earth can be achieved in a friendly and cooperative manner, through working with our creations energetic organisation. Glen Atkinson – an Artist who expresses through Astrology, Gardening, Homeopathy and Philosophy – has developed the agricultural and medical work of the turn of the century Austrian philosopher, Dr Rudolf Steiner, into a rational and secular approach of being with nature, while staying true to Dr Steiner’s energetic indications. On 11th February 2020, he was conferred a ‘Doctor of Philosophy’ as recognition for ‘significant lifetime achievements in the field’.

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Is there any use in choosing to live more sustainably if you’re surrounded by an unsustainable system? There are those who argue there is little value in making efforts to trim your own ecological footprint. They lament, “It’s difficult to skinny up your life when you live within a system that needs structural change,” built to drive itself off a cliff. The GrowthBusters disagree. But who can you turn to for good advice on this? An astrophysicist, of course! We’re joined in this episode by NYU professor Joshua Spodek. Yes, he has a degree in astrophysics, but these days he’s busy teaching and coaching leadership and entrepreneurship, doing TEDx talks, authoring best-selling books, blogging daily, and hosting his own podcast. It takes Joshua a year to accumulate a load of trash, and he hasn’t hopped on a plane in four years. So when it comes to both the joy, and the value, of individual planet-saving action, Josh is our guy. Here is the complete email from Rob Boman in Oregon (we shared a portion of it on the podcast) Links promised are below this. Hello, I just listened to podcast #35 (uncoupling nonsense). I could send a lot of stuff and I’m in the process of developing a website, but for now, you might find this interesting: I call it The Fifteen Criteria Points of Genuine, Meaningful Sustainability Thanks for your work, Robert Bolman 1) What people commonly refer to as “sustainability” is not truly sustainable. For example, people will refer to “sustainably harvested lumber”. Lumber may be harvested in a manner that is not destructive of forest ecosystems, but in order for lumber to be sustainably harvested, not only would the chainsaws and logging trucks need to be running on something other than fossil fuels, but the chainsaws and logging trucks would need to be MANUFACTURED using something other than fossil fuels. When you consider the amount of energy required to make a large metal object like a logging truck, it is clear that even Forest Stewardship Council certified lumber is far from sustainable 2) Genuine, meaningful sustainability is defined by a rigorous set of criteria including, but not limited to the use of nonrenewable resources and the impossibility of infinite growth on a finite planet. 3) It therefore follows that achieving genuine, meaningful sustainability is a dauntingly complex, remote, far-flung ideal. It will be VERY difficult to achieve. 4) As difficult as it may be, genuine, meaningful sustainability WILL be achieved because to do anything less is unsustainable. Whatever the human family fails to do voluntarily, we WILL do involuntarily. It is possible that we will become a sustainable, advanced, complex civilization. On the other hand, dust blowing on the wind is sustainable. 5) The longer we wait, the longer we procrastinate, delay and make excuses, the more wrenching and traumatic the transition to sustainability will be. We are squandering precious time and resources presently. We have used up approximately half of our one-time geological allotment of fossil fuels. The remaining half will be increasingly more expensive and energy intensive to extract. We should be feverishly using the remaining half to construct the post-fossil fuel infrastructure that we will need. This is especially the case when considering Climate Change. Fully preparing for life without fossil fuels could take decades. Also, it is not at all clear just HOW everything we do with fossil fuels can be accomplished with wind, solar and biofuels. The time to begin that transition is NOT when the fossil fuels are dwindling and the economy is collapsing. 6) Growth is unsustainable. Period. Within a closed, finite system like a petri dish, an island or a planet, growth of the physical environment cannot be continued. Thus, mainstream economics with its emphasis on perpetual growth is quite misguided and unsustainable. (The joke goes that an economist is someone who believes that given sufficient water and fertilizer, a tree can grow to be 100 miles tall.) 7) The best efforts at sustainability will be in vain if population isn’t addressed. It has been consistently shown that the best way to encourage poorer populations to have fewer children is to provide them with education, health care and a more humane quality of life, generally. Therefore, arguably, the extremely poor distribution of the world’s wealth is unsustainable. 8) When the consequences of a given action are not fully understood, it is best to err on the side of caution. This is called The Precautionary Principle and if so called “conservatives” were genuinely conservative, it would be the bedrock of their philosophy. It is safe, prudent and truly conservative. When looked at in the context of genuine, meaningful sustainability, so called “conservatives” are not conservative at all. They are radical, cavalier and dangerous. 9). Carrying on with business-as-usual, assuming that technology will emerge to save us is optimistic to the point of irresponsibility. This is a good place to invoke The Precautionary Principle. No doubt new technologies will emerge to help us through the coming transition to sustainability, but we are facing some    serious challenges and there is no guarantee that technology will make this an easy transition. Technological optimism IS NOT a sound basis for public policy. 10) Human labor is environmentally neutral. So, wherever any toxic, energy intensive industrial or agricultural practice can be replaced with a different process using human labor, that’s what we should do. Seen in the context of the approaching depletion of fossil fuels, we perhaps don’t need to worry about unemployment. There will be plenty of work for people to do. 11) In order for market forces to govern a sustainable world, environmental and social costs must be accounted for. The way mainstream economists view the world, countless true environmental and social costs are nonchalantly brushed aside – dismissed as “externalities”. Then, with a straight face, these same economists insist that the “wise and invisible hand of the free market” should be allowed to decide things for us. We might as well have a chimpanzee with a Ouija board making some of society’s more important decisions. It’s absurd. For example, if the true environmental and social costs of fossil fuels were accounted for, they would be far more expensive and we would be living in a very different world with dramatically different transportation, land use, manufacturing and agriculture. 12) So many powerful economic interests make so much money from such unsustainable business practices and so many people enjoy such great levels of comfort, convenience and entertainment through such unsustainable means that achieving genuine, meaningful sustainability will be very upsetting to a lot of people. In other words, the necessary and inevitable changes are gonna PISS PEOPLE OFF. 13) Therefore, in order to achieve genuine, meaningful sustainability, those in positions of power must carry out dramatic, sweeping changes for which there may not yet be widespread, popular support. The practice of politicians tiptoeing around, reluctant to upset people must end. True leaders must be ready to say, “Here’s what we’re gonna do. Here’s why. And this pallet of document boxes is the scientific research supporting our decision, so please stop shouting and start reading.” 14) It follows that in order to achieve widespread, popular support for sustainability, the public must be educated – a task too important to be left to the mainstream media & “education” as it commonly exists. Corporate lawyers should not earn ten times the income of a public school teacher. Rather than cutting funding for National Public Radio and Television, funding should be dramatically increased with the condition that all corporate underwriting be eliminated. We should consider a national public print media to provide an alternative to the New York Times and Washington Post. 15) In order to function better as a species, human beings must develop an enhanced faculty of discernment whereby we will tend to believe what is true as distinct from believing what happens to be convenient. It has been articulated by people ranging from Albert Einstein to Shirley MacLane that HUMAN CONSCIOUSNESS MUST CHANGE for the world’s problems to be resolved, but this idea is viewed as being vague or abstract – better discussed by philosophers and psychologists than by policy makers. But there is nothing vague or abstract about the DENIAL, DELUSION and sometimes SOCIOPATHIC BEHAVIOR being exhibited by those in positions of power in the world. The hierarchies of power don’t groom and condition the finest people among us to rise to the positions of leadership. In order to achieve and thrive in positions of power, people often find it necessary to embrace a deeply flawed view of reality. Or in many cases, sociopathic behavior can serve those in power very nicely as they dig, claw, kick and gouge their way to the top. This is how politicians and corporate executives wake up in the morning, look in the mirror, genuinely believe that their behavior is acceptable and then spend their days doing a gross disservice to future generations. It is high time we bring the full weight of modern psychology to bear on those running the world. LINKS: (We didn’t get around to discussing all these, but we want to share them with you, anyway.) Joshua Spodek website Leadership and the Environment (Joshua Spodek’s podcast) Dave Gardner episodes of Leadership and the Environment What everyone Gets Wrong About the Environment – TEDx Talk by Joshua Spodek Find Your Delicious: Leadership and the Environment – TEDx Talk by Joshua Spodek Joshua Spodek on flying: What a Year Without Flying Taught Me About Responsibility, Empathy, and Community – in Inc. Magazine Covid-19: Addiction to Flying and Other Polluting Behavior Was a Lack of Motivation and Imagination Year 4, Day 1 of Not Flying The Longer I Go Without Flying, the More People Talking About Flying Sounds Like They’re Talking About Heroin The Longer I Go Without Flying, the More People Talking About Flying Sounds Like They’re Talking About Heroin, Part 2 Joshua’s 20-Minute Vegetable Stew A Christmas Thought on Climate and Population - by Joshua Spodek Towards the 'Walden Wage” Waiting for the World to End - by The Mavericks Join the conversation on Facebook Make a donation to support this non-profit project. Archive of all episodes of the GrowthBusters podcast Subscribe to GrowthBusters email updates See the film – GrowthBusters: Hooked on Growth Explore the issues at www.growthbusters.org View the GrowthBusters channel on YouTube Subscribe (free) so you don't miss an episode:

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Freeman Dyson in the report from the 2001 World Economic Forum defined the Precautionary Principle as "that if some course of action carries even a remote chance of irreparable damage to the ecology, then you shouldn’t do it, no matter how great the possible advantages of the action may be. You are not allowed to balance costs against benefits when deciding what to do."

This episode was a discussion with David Zaruk. David is a professor at Odisee University and is most widely known as the “Risk-Monger.” He has been an EU risk and science communications specialist since 2000, active in EU policy events from REACH and SCALE to the Pesticides Directive, from Science in Society questions to the use of Precautionary Principle. You can find his Risk Monger blog at: https://risk-monger.com/ and be sure to follow him on Twitter at: @zaruk

Can we fight the coronavirus without becoming mere peons to governments that "take charge" without even addressing their alleged constitutional limits, much less our rights? Yes. One way is by recourse to the principle that is being used to commandeer the whole of our society, and shut down capitalism. The Precautionary Principle doesn't just cut against us. But that means stop being weenies about "conspiracy theories." It also means becoming MORE sophisticated than ever about the Knowledge Problem — about epistemics. Being a "conspiracy theorist" has never been more intellectually respectable. If you do it right. The key? Well, there are several. But one is an old word: Epoché. This episode of the LocoFoco Netcast features Timothy Virkkala flying solo. The video of this presentation is available on YouTube, per usual. LocoFoco.us is where the LocoFoco team can be found and interacted with.

What makes for good policy during times of pandemics and other such emergencies when it comes to managing risk? How do we normalize risk, and how do we measure it? In this podcast, Kevin Quigley gets into the nuts and bolts of how policy makers approach risk, and how they should approach it during the pandemic. Kevin Quigley is the scholarly director at the MacEachen Institute for Public Policy and Governance and a professor in Dalhousie’s School of Public Administration, Faculty of Management. He specializes in public sector risk and crisis management, strategic management and critical infrastructure protection. He has published an acclaimed book on critical infrastructure, numerous articles in academic journals and studies for a professional audience; his newest book, Too Critical to Fail: How Canada Manages Threats to Critical Infrastructure was published by McGill-Queen's in November 2017 and shortlisted for the Donner Prize. This podcast is part of a special GDP Roadshow series featured a COVID-19 video panel with the Canada International Council and the MacEachen Institute of Public Policy & Governance. Check out the entire Video conference here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOPY1gvkmr4 Follow Dr. Bob on Twitter: @ProfessorHuish

Freeman Dyson in the report from the 2001 World Economic Forum defined the Precautionary Principle as that if some course of action carries even a remote chance of irreparable damage to the ecology, then you shouldn't do it, no matter how great the possible advantages of the action may be. You are not allowed to balance costs against benefits when deciding what to do. In this episode, Ron and Ed will speak about the implications of the precautionary principle on society in general and on business innovation in specific. While COVID19 was (ironically) the catalyst, this is a topic that needs all of our attention and not just during this current situation.

Freeman Dyson in the report from the 2001 World Economic Forum defined the Precautionary Principle as that if some course of action carries even a remote chance of irreparable damage to the ecology, then you shouldn't do it, no matter how great the possible advantages of the action may be. You are not allowed to balance costs against benefits when deciding what to do. In this episode, Ron and Ed will speak about the implications of the precautionary principle on society in general and on business innovation in specific. While COVID19 was (ironically) the catalyst, this is a topic that needs all of our attention and not just during this current situation.

Freeman Dyson in the report from the 2001 World Economic Forum defined the Precautionary Principle as that if some course of action carries even a remote chance of irreparable damage to the ecology, then you shouldn't do it, no matter how great the possible advantages of the action may be. You are not allowed to balance costs against benefits when deciding what to do. In this episode, Ron and Ed will speak about the implications of the precautionary principle on society in general and on business innovation in specific. While COVID19 was (ironically) the catalyst, this is a topic that needs all of our attention and not just during this current situation.

Adam Thierer, a Senior Research Fellow at George Mason's Mercatus Center, joins the show to discuss how the precautionary principle has shaped today's energy landscape and the profound benefits of permissionless innovation. Links: • The latest from Adam: https://www.mercatus.org/scholars/adam-thierer#0 • More about the Mercatus Center: https://www.mercatus.org/ • More from Adam about permissionless innovation: https://permissionlessinnovation.org/ • Get the book Permissionless Innovation: https://permissionlessinnovation.org/book/

Carolyn Raffensperger has been advocating for the environment since 1982. She's currently executive director of the Science and Environmental Health Network, and a tireless proponent of the Precautionary Principle when it comes to balancing economic and environmental impacts.

Carolyn Raffensperger has been advocating for the environment since 1982. She's currently executive director of the Science and Environmental Health Network, which is a key proponent of the Precautionary Principle when it comes to balancing economic and environmental impacts. Raffensperger sees the environmental movement's best strategy to reverse the destruction of our planet as one of civil rights litigation. Governments, at their core, are here to keep safe the commons upon which all life depends: clean air, clean water, clean soil. She argues that our current policies are violating the "Rights of the Unborn" to a clean and healthy environment.  The post Becoming Beloved Ancestors with Carolyn Raffensperger: PYP 366 appeared first on Plant Yourself.

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There has always been a lingering question as to why is 5G being hyped up, as the panacea for all things with communications and especially the internet of things. That they must deploy NOW as soon as possible! Why the hurry?   Claire Edwards has worked for 19 years in the UN in Austria as an editor on Drugs and Crime, anti Terrorism and especially worked on Space documents and the 'peaceful use of outer space' … which has a legal subcommittee and a scientific and technical sub committee and as a results she has a very good understanding of Space Law as well as some of the issues regarding space (which should be designated as part of the global commons). What brought her to an in-depth understanding of 5G and its effect on human health is that in December 2015 the UN installed all along the ceilings in what is called 'public access points' in the UN International Centre in Vienna in Austria. These areas were for public use. Radiation Exposure 'off the scale' So she decided to take her radiation meter for measuring electromagnetic fields - and do some ‘readings' in this whole area.  She visited the conference areas, where they had these 'public access' areas that were for mobile phones - cell phone access and also for wifi access. In these conference areas they tend to have very high ceilings - and she found that the radiation was not that bad, but in the corridors where most of the staff worked - as these were very narrow corridors - with metal walls and very low ceilings above all these public access points - her meter would not even measure the exposure levels there, as it was off the scale! So she contacted all the authorities in Vienna, as well - also the UN medical service in Vienna - and also the Staff Union - and staff representatives. She said that this needs to be looked into and that they bring in the Building Biology people in to find out if these levels are safe. She spent two years chasing this up and the result was that everyone ignored her. She says as soon as the technology was deployed she became ill (hypersensitivity) - she was ill for 7 months with flu and colds continuously.  What she has found out since is that flu symptoms are nearly identical to electromagnetic radiation poisoning. Because it’s an environmental toxin. Asking the United Nations Secretary General about 5G  She did not connect this at the time - but as soon as this technology was activated - that is when she started to suffer health affects. However as no one would do anything about it, she decided on early retirement and it was not until a year and a half later that the United Nations Secretary General made a visit to Vienna - during which he addressed the staff and she was still able to, as an ex UN employee - attend his talk. So she addressed the Secretary General Antonio Guterres as nobody else would listen - telling him that this was extremely dangerous and that something should be done about it. https://www.takebackyourpower.net/un-staff-member-5g-is-war-on-humanity/ She was concerned for the 4,000 UN staff who work at the Centre and that were being exposed everyday for 8 hours or so. The reaction from the Secretary General was to make a joke out of this. Which Claire felt was highly inappropriate. Especially as he is an electrical engineer and a physicist. Where previously he had actually taught about telecommunications technology early in his career. So of all people, he should (would) have known what Claire was talking about. Naturally she considers this negligence in the extreme. Meanwhile the staff in Vienna have been exposed to this for 4 years and she has heard of people who have collapsed and died,  people who have had heart attacks, a phenomenal number of breast cancer cases. However, this issue is not being addressed. So after addressing the Secretary General she wrote to the EMS Scientist Appeal of 2016 as well as well as the EU-5G Appeal of 2017 Stating that she has told the UN Secretary General of the dangers of 5G so he cannot say he doesn’t know now - because she has just told him. What came as a result was that the professor of the EU - 5G appeal asked her to help them on the issue of Space, and she now has found herself assisting on a very committed level. No understanding and adequate training in electromagnetic radiation.  The universal problem that is ubiquitous today is that medical staff are given no training to understand what the health consequences and effects are from electromagnetic radiation. So they simply do not know. However, people in the emerging understanding of the consequences of electromagnetic radiation - actually have a whole history that goes back to the 18th century when electricity was first generated - and she says that we know what all the symptoms are.  That electromagnetic radiation is alien to our biology - so it affects everything - it’s going to exacerbate every disease.  And she said you can not basically list them. And the medical staff do not really know - so what will happen is you turn up at a hospital and say - Doctor I am having all these nose bleeds - or all of a sudden I am having all the headaches - Dr I have something wrong with my heart. Am I having a heart attack? Dr I can’t get my breath - I can not breathe … I have pain all over my body … etc tinnitus - these are common initial symptoms. Heart problems? So they send you to a heart specialist. Tinnitus - to a hearing specialist  etc - however they do not know what is really happening. They do not see this as a “syndrome” - which is what it is. Because the medical people do not get training in it. There are over ten thousand peer review studies - that the public do not get to hear or see. Even though there are over 10,000 peer review studies of the effect of 5G - disseminating this information is a huge challenge. (When was the last time the NZ Herald or Radio NZ gave another side of the 5G debate?) However, Claire says that there have been over 28,000 studies - But the regulatory Agencies have been co-opted by Corporations and that guidelines have been set that are deliberately astronomically high. For example - most of the world is using the ’so-called' safety guidelines of the International Commision on Non Ionising Radiation Protection. It’s a Private Club It is a little club in Germany - that under German law it’s actually a little private club. It operates under no transparency - no supervision - it appoints its own members, none of the members of the International Commision on Non Ionising Radiation Protection are medical doctors or environmentalists. These are technical people, who systematically dismiss all the science on the biological effects of electromagnetic radiation. As a result, they have set these ’so-called’ safely guidelines, so high - to give you an example. Listen - to where in Sweden an apartment close to an antenna 10 metres away that to break the safely guidelines you would need 666,000 such antennas around this apartment in order to exceed those safety guidelines. (It’s a farce). It is like something akin to setting your speed limit for your cars when driving along the road at say a million miles an hour. You could never exceed these limits. Also, regarding these International Commision on Non Ionising Radiation Protection 'guidelines is that a lie has been perpetrated.  Military use of microwave radiation - as weapons The American military wanted to develop microwave radiation weapons. This is all documented. They, put together and compiled a whole series of compendia in the 1970’s and the 1980’s of all the bodies biological effects to microwave radiation - because they wanted to develop microwave weapons. We have this information, because it has been declassified and a lot of these studies came from the Soviet Union. There were thousands of studies listed.   In 1973 the World Health Organisation - which is part of the United Nations - held a symposium of which the title was  The Biologic affect and health hazards of Microwave Radiation. So this shows that there were and are biological effects. Note that in 1976 there is a document emanating from the US military - stating - It's not desirable to have adequate public exposure limits - because this would impede the development of weapons and also impede the profit of industry. (The military Industrial complex). Weapons Expert Barry Trower, calls this the saddest and most despicable document in history. So this has all been suppressed (surprised?). The International Commision on Non Ionising Radiation Protection insists that there are no biological effects and  that there are only heating effects. This is what is called the ‘thermal hypothesis.’ The basis of the thermal hypothesis means that if you simply hold your phone away from your body, it cannot be heating you - and therefore you are going to be relatively safe. This is not the case because these frequencies are alien to our biology and it will interfere with our whole bodies biological system because our body functions electrically.  That exposing ourselves to microwave radiation is essentially killing our body. That is why the US military wanted to develop microwave radiation weapons - in order to kill! Note that over the last 25 years with mobile phones and wireless technology we are now all immersed -  24/7 . Insects and the effects of ubiquitous microwave radiation.   Insects are being affected - so what about bees? She says the phenomenon of colony collapse disorder - that the bees are dying. She states that when Marconi was doing his experiments with wireless in 1906 around 90% of the bees on the Isle of Wight died. They brought in fresh bees and they too died within a week. So this is a known. Claire has talked with various beekeepers and they have shared many different stories. One keeper when visiting his hives had bees swarm out of the hive and attack his mobile phone, because they felt the emanations coming off the phone. Another bee keeper said that he very quickly worked out that the bees were dying when he placed his hives in between two antennas. So he actually made a map of the area where all the phone antennas were and made sure that he never sited his hives between two phone antennas. Safety Guidelines - Incongruent?  The so called safety guidelines have been based on a 200 pound US military male - someone with a substantially sized body. With regard to the thermal affect - the smaller the body the greater the effect. Therefore women are far more vulnerable to this. Especially children. Because children’s bodies contain more water - proportionately. Plus they have growing brains and their brains are always growing until adulthood. She mentions that a 2 minute mobile phone cal, with your phone near your ear will cause your blood brain barrier to leak. So children should never come into contact with a mobile phone. She says even computer use is detrimental, as children with their growing brains are especially vulnerable. She states that there are reports of children in the USA who’ve been immersed in radiation who now have brains that are like senile old people.   A scientist from the US - Massachusetts Institute of Technology MIT has predicted that by the year 2025 every second baby will be autistic. That the smaller the body the more susceptible it becomes. She states that effects to the foetus in utero, could occur?   She talks about even small exposures causing autism and HDHD. Listen In China, pregnant women are required to wear a protective apron to protect them from exposure to electromagnetic radiation. Plus the police even enforce the wearing of this apron. But in the west we are never told about this exposure and remain oblivious to the consequences. That even today some pregnant women find it convenient to use ‘their bump’ to actually put their laptop on and rest it directly above the foetus. Bird deaths falling out of the sky.  The Hague in Holland . Listen 24 or so minutes in.  http://www.radiationdangers.com/5g/hundreds-of-birds-drop-dead-during-5g-experiment-in-the-hague-the-netherlands/ Coventry hospital in the UK - testing 5G for their ambulance service - and birds just dropped dead all around. https://www.sott.net/article/424669-Three-NHS-workers-die-suddenly-while-working-for-same-toxic-ambulance-trust-Could-5G-be-related Regarding the elderly  There is a huge wave of neurological disease and death manifesting in the western world  - are we entering a tipping point? She mentions the rates of dementia are escalating rapidly. Even dementia in people younger than 30 years of age. Listen. Pacemakers could be a serious problem - especially stepping through metal detectors at airports. But, if we have ubiquitous 5G technology everywhere - what does this mean for people with pacemakers. Satellites in geo-stationary orbit. So with antennas every hundred metres and 53,000 satellites in geo-stationary orbit beaming down at us continuously from space - there will be no escape? Effects on the human body  This includes replacement metal body parts -  It could re radiate radiation deeper into one’s body. Mercury amalgam fillings - could leak/ HEARING AIDS problematic  serious pain in the jaw when exposed to wireless technology. Hence the precautionary principle has to be enacted in the meantime. We are an experiment in a microwave oven - but actually we are now an experiment with the microwave oven door being left open. 5G is to going to supersede 3G and 4G - yet we are all going to be exposed by them all as they are all still going to be used.  The accumulative effect of what all these technologies have caused over the last 20 years has yet to be measured.  Also covered is the Schumann resonance and that of the earth at 7.83 hertz - but it has changed and now oscillates higher. This needs to be researched.  Claire talks about the difference between 4G and what 5G Phased Arrays are.  She describes a directional beam that is part of this technology  Listen to this ... That all the studies - 10,000 of them are being suppressed.  Closed In-House Research.  The Telecom industry finances its own studies and in doing so they muddy the waters … and though there are 25,000 plus universities world wide - there does not appear to be a University that is prepared to carry our ‘independent’ research. If an independent study of 5G on bees was conducted and the research was unfavourable against this new technology  - the University could very well lose its funding. https://www.webometrics.info/en/node/54  Just like the same play book as tobacco and asbestos, there is a war going on to hide the research on new products and technologies less they never get to market.   The truthful scientists can’t get published - and can also lose their tenure or and even receive threats … Note: there is a race to deploy this technology before the public become wise to the dangers - hence the hurry. Club of Rome In this interview we also hear about the Club of Rome that started in  1972. It comes under the microscope with its report Limits to Growth.  “The common enemy of humanity is man. In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill. All these dangers are caused by human intervention, and it is only through changed attitudes and behavior that they can be overcome. The real enemy then, is humanity itself."   Club of Rome   That on  a finite planet there are limits to growth especially in the extraction of natural resources and the resulting pollution, however we also hear that the findings were used to skew the evidence to find a way to halt the massive increase in population. This is where social manipulation comes in and brings us to the present day where population pressure is now being subtly manipulated. This also includes eugenics     https://www.amazon.com/Limits-growth-Project-Predicament-Mankind/dp/0876631650   The Club of Rome subsequently founded two sibling organizations, the Club of Budapest and the Club of Madrid. The former is focused on social and cultural aspects of their agenda, while the latter concentrates on the political aspects. All three of these 'Clubs' share many common members and hold joint meetings and conferences. Club of Madrid:  http://www.clubmadrid.org/who-we-are/members/ Ex NZ Prime Ministers - Helen Clark and Jenny Shipley are members. Note that there is a push to: take power away from ‘local authorities’ and the people. This is part of the strategy to consolidate power. For example dissolve all localise Councils and bring them under a larger umbrella organisation. E.g the ‘enforced’ formation of NZ’s largest super city - that of Auckland.  To tie this all in to a more coherent understanding - there is a push by these Clubs to ‘influence consensus reality’ - however it is not being done ‘openly and transparently’. That these organisations plus the United Nations have not come out and mentioned the ‘Precautionary Principle’ with regard to 5G is of concern to us all.  This means that we are being herded down a particular pathway - that is treating us to not being recognised as ‘souls’ in a human body - but more so, just a collectivised mass of humanity that can be told what to do - without us ever being engaged in the process of co-creating and shaping our future and the destiny of our children and grandchildren.  Finally Claire mentioned:       Is the Stop 5G Movement Being Hijacked? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JuiJtwH_uo George Soros is involved. Where ever he puts his money  - there are major problems. The only way through this is for us here in NZ is to build up locally and take our concerns and educate our local residents and Councils as to what is happening. We have to organise locally. “We need to do everything from a grassroots level.”  Note it is important that we do not align with stop5Ginternational.org as they have ‘another agenda running.’  This below is some information on the telecommunications situation in NZ about how 5G fits into the picture here.  First of all, to date the NZ government has ignored health concerns about 5G, seemingly preferring to take advice on health effects from a committee that includes people with telco industry connections.  https://www.5g.org.nz/2019/02/27/why-is-the-minister-of-health-taking-advice-about-the-health-effects-of-5g-from-a-committee-influenced-by-people-with-ties-to-the-telecommunications-industry/ The Minister of Health and the Minister of Telecommunications refused an invitation to meet with Prof. Dariusz Leszczynski when he visited NZ late last year.  Unfortunately, the intransigence of key ministers in central government means that 5G is already operational in parts of NZ.  Vodafone has been able to launch 5G in parts of Auckland, Wellington, Christchurch and Queenstown. It is using a 3.5 GHz band for this.  5G has been introduced to parts of some of the smaller towns in the South Island by Spark. Spark is using a 2.6 GHz band for this and the towns are Alexandra, Westport, Clyde, Twizel, Tekapo and Hokitika.  Other than these areas, most of New Zealand remains 5G-Free.   There is a test zone in the Viaduct Basin in downtown Auckland where Spark has been (and probably still is) testing a 27 GHz band. Other than this, to the best of my knowledge, NZ does NOT have small cells producing this type of high frequency radiation.   A couple of smaller towns in the North Island have effectively fought off telco plans to build new cell phone towers and therefore helped to stymie telcos’ plans for 5G for their town. (They have done this with good community organisation and a lot of courage because in NZ, the regulations about cell phone tower placement are massively biased in favour of telcos – not communities –  if you want background information it is here: https://www.5g.org.nz/2018/10/09/5g-in-nz-the-legal-and-regulatory-situation/)   In NZ we are facing a situation where telcos are generally pushing wireless communications in general, in addition to hyping 5G.  Telcos are marketing wireless home phone systems to unwary consumers. (See this link: http://www.saveourlandlines.nz/news/why-it-may-not-be-such-a-good-idea-to-take-up-the-offer-of-a-wireless-landline-phone-system/) plus recently there have been a couple of  reports about telcos refusing to connect customers to the copper system: http://www.saveourlandlines.nz/news/please-report-any-instances-of-telcos-refusing-to-connect-copper-landline-phone-or-internet-services/ Telcos here are also marketing “fixed wireless” internet systems even in areas where good internet is available via copper or fibre.  (See: https://www.5g.org.nz/2019/07/08/if-you-dont-want-to-see-more-cell-phone-towers-in-new-zealand-dont-use-fixed-wireless-internet-services/ ) The other issue that we are facing here in NZ is that in November 2018, the government passed legislation (the Telecommunications (New Regulatory Framework) Amendment Bill) that means that access to the copper landline phone system is going to be phased out in many areas of NZ . Fibre has been installed, largely at taxpayer expense in most NZ towns and cities (the roll out of fibre is ongoing).  See this link for a summary of the campaign against the Telecommunications (New Regulatory Framework) Amendment bill - http://www.saveourlandlines.nz/news/2019-update/  In practical terms, the passing of the Telecommunications (New Regulatory Framework) Amendment bill means that in order to have a hard wired internet and phone connection, most NZers will end up having fibre as their only option as most of the population lives in towns and cities.  The 5G-Free NZ campaign encourages the use of hardwired phone and internet systems. See this link for details: https://www.5g.org.nz/safer-technology/ In terms of space-based 5G, there was a “consultation” in 2018 organised by Radio Spectrum Management NZ (which is a business unit of the government’s Ministry of Business, Innovation and Employment (MBIE) and SpaceX indicated its interest in operating 5G in NZ in that consultation. See: https://www.rsm.govt.nz/projects-and-auctions/consultations/preparing-for-5g-in-new-zealand-technical-consultation/ NZ also unfortunately has a rocket launching facility on the Mahia Peninsula (the closest city to Mahia is Gisborne) where satellites are being launched including those with links to the US military/intelligence agencies.    https://thespinoff.co.nz/business/01-08-2019/spying-on-earth-rocket-labs-payloads-get-more-and-more-interesting/ https://thespinoff.co.nz/business/17-05-2019/shell-be-right-attitude-to-rocket-lab-putting-nuclear-free-nz-at-risk-experts-say  NB:  I do not have any information about whether the Mahia site is being used for 5G satellite launches but this is obviously a possibility and for obvious reasons many NZers are not happy about the use of the site for launching military-linked payloads – especially given the huge grass-roots activism in the 1980s that led to NZ being a Nuclear Weapons Free Zone…  I trust this gives you a useful overview of the NZ situation. For information about the rallies throughout NZ on the 25 January 2020 - please go to: www.5G.org.nz

          Guest – Dr. David O. Carpenter, co-editor/author of the Bioinitiative Report – shares his advice about the negative health effects proliferated by wireless devices – smart meters, cell phones, WiFi in schools – and why the precautionary principle and prudent avoidance are important.  

Pertinent re-play from January 8, 2004 on defining the desirable future (and role of government)   Caroline with great ally, embodying environmental justice, executive director of Science and Environment Health Network, Carolyn Raffensperger, animator of The Precautionary Principle, and today's focus: “The Public Trust Doctrine,” as we engage public discourse in defining the desirable function of government (to protect the commons). www.sehn.org   Support The Visionary Activist Show on Patreon for weekly Chart & Themes ($4/month) and more… *Woof*Woof*Wanna*Play?!?* The post Visionary Activist Show – Archives: ‘The Public Trust Doctrine' appeared first on KPFA.

He says, “In my lectures I will present the current scientific knowledge as well as the current lack of scientific research on the biological and health effects of the 5G millimeter-waves. I will also present the evidence, and the reasoning, for the invocation of the Precautionary Principle and for the temporary moratorium on 5G deployment, while awaiting for the much needed scientific research on millimeter-waves.” Dr. Dariusz Leszczynski, PhD, DSc is Adjunct Professor of Biochemistry, Division of Biochemistry and Biotechnology, University of Helsinki, Finland. He says: “I am scientist with keen interest in molecular biology research, or work as an expert/consultant, or as journal/book editor. Thanks to my age and working in universities around the world, I have a very broad experience in scientific research, in science publishing and in dissemination of scientific information to expert and lay-person audiences.” Dr. Leszczynski, who researches non-ionizing radiation, emphasizes that, “there is a continuous talk about assuring that the 5G maintains low levels of EMF exposure. However, there is not sufficient scientific research to show that low levels assure no health effects in short- and long-term exposures (acute and chronic exposures). It seems that the telecom industry assumes that their low level exposures will not cause- ever -any health effects and the telecom industry forcefully imposes this scientifically unsupported assumption on others, especially governmental decision-makers.” Rd. Leszczynski says there is an urgent need to start research studies examining effects of millimeter-waves on human health. However, there is a strong resistance from the telecom industry and from the decision-makers to start new research programs. The International Commission on Non-Ionizing Radiation Protection (ICNIRP), and the telecom industry, strongly propagate the idea that the low power of EMF emissions from the 5G devices will guarantee that human health will not be affected. However, the same assurances were made in the 70’s when the first generation of cell phones was commercialized, followed by the unlimited spread of the 2G, 3G and 4G devices – as long as the device emits radiation within the ICNIRP guidelines it is considered as safe, which is not necessarily the case as shown by a number of research studies. As a direct consequence of the scientific research, in 2011 the International Agency for Research on Cancer classified radiation emitted by the cell phones and cell towers as a possible human carcinogen. This classification appears to be strengthened by the new research studies on 3G and 4G-emitted EMF published after 2011. However, what the biomedical research on millimeter-waves, performed in the future, will show is a complete enigma. Why hasn’t the media taken this up and warned us all? Dr. Leszczynski explained that in many cases new outlets rely on Telecom businesses to advertise with them and so it could be a financial hit if they spoke out against these companies. He also explained that the media is reluctant to be seen as scaremongering and looking like tin foil hat wearers. The same probably goes for universities and tertiary institutions relative silence on this. I asked the professor what the difference between 4G and 5G were. He explained that 5g builds on 4G but then includes millimetre waves that are much shorter and higher energy waves. While they can carry more information, their range is less and they are easily blocked by buildings and trees etc, therefore requiring more transmitters at closer proximity. I asked about the effect on trees and it appears to be inconclusive, but certainly it is possible that trees could suffer damage from the energy from cell phone towers. Again not enough experiments have been carried out and we rely on anecdotal evidence. It is the same with bees.  Dr. Leszczynski said there was a study done in Belgium that showed that the millimetre waves caused increased temperatures in bees, which could cause problems with bee behaviour, such as losing the way back to their hives, but there needs to be more study. No matter what the future research will show, 5G technology will be by then fully deployed and without any possibility of reverse because the whole future life of humanity will be based and dependent on the functioning of the 5G radiation-emitting devices. He says, “This is a unique situation in the history of the human kind when the whole human population will be exposed to man-made devices emitting non-ionizing radiation that was insufficiently tested before deployment. What is and what will be the responsibility of the scientists, decision-makers and industry leaders who permit deployment of insufficiently tested technology that will affect us all? The answer is simple – no responsibility … because if any health problems will show up in the future, these will most likely take tens of years of time to manifest and, by then the persons that currently enable deployment of insufficiently tested radiation-emitting 5G technology will be retired or the proverbial “six feet under”.”  What would Dr. Leszcynski say to the government? *The IARC classification of RF-EMF as possible carcinogen is sufficient to trigger consideration of the Precautionary Principle. *Recommendations concerning RF-EMF and health effects should be based on science. However, many committees (SCENIHR, ICNIRP, WHO, HPA, SSI) simply disregard evidence of effects from epidemiological case-control studies and animal studies and say that the effects are not seen in scientific studies. Such statements disregard the evidence at hand. *General public, decision makers and scientists at large have no idea what are the “criteria” used by these committees to dismiss the positive studies because, description of these “criteria”, is not provided. What would Dr. Leszcynski advise the government to do? The Precautionary Principle should be used for RF-EMF and should include, among others:  *Stop saying that there are no established non-thermal effect - if cancer risk increases in epidemiological studies it indicates that non-thermal effects happen.  *Strengthen the safety standards; change them to reflect the current scientific evidence, showing the possibility of health effects.  *Protect the children – applies to cell phone use; not so much cell towers.  *Develop better technologies that emit less radiation. Reduce exposures of general population by making health agencies to advise people to do so.

In this episode I talk to Christian Munthe. Christian is a Professor of Practical Philosophy at the University of Gothenburg, Sweden. He conducts research and expert consultation on ethics, value and policy issues arising in the intersection of health, science & technology, the environment and society. He is probably best-known for his work on the precautionary principle and its uses in ethical and policy debates. This was the central topic of his 2011 book The Price of Precaution and the Ethics of Risk. We talk about the problems with the practical application of the precautionary principle and how they apply to the debate about existential risk. You can download the episode here or listen below.You can also subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Stitcher and a variety of other podcasting services (the RSS feed is here). Show Notes0:00 - Introduction1:35 - What is the precautionary principle? Where did it come from?6:08 - The key elements of the precautionary principle9:35 - Precaution vs. Cost Benefit Analysis15:40 - The Problem of the Knowledge Gap in Existential Risk21:52 - How do we fill the knowledge gap?27:04 - Why can't we fill the knowledge gap in the existential risk debate?30:12 - Understanding the Black Hole Challenge35:22 - Is it a black hole or total decisional paralysis?39:14 - Why does precautionary reasoning have a 'price'?44:18 - Can we develop a normative theory of precautionary reasoning? Is there such a thing as a morally good precautionary reasoner?52:20 - Are there important practical limits to precautionary reasoning?1:01:38 - Existential risk and the conservation of value  Relevant LinksChristian's Academic HomepageChristian's Twitter account"The Black Hole Challenge: Precaution, Existential Risks and the Problem of Knowledge Gaps" by ChristianThe Price of Precaution and the Ethics of Risk by ChristianHans Jonas's The Imperative of ResponsibilityThe Precautionary Approach from the Rio DeclarationEpisode 62 with Olle Häggström #mc_embed_signup{background:#fff; clear:left; font:14px Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; } /* Add your own MailChimp form style overrides in your site stylesheet or in this style block. We recommend moving this block and the preceding CSS link to the HEAD of your HTML file. */ Subscribe to the newsletter

In this episode I talk to Christian Munthe. Christian is a Professor of Practical Philosophy at the University of Gothenburg, Sweden. He conducts research and expert consultation on ethics, value and policy issues arising in the intersection of health, science & technology, the environment and society. He is probably best-known for his work on the … More #64 – Munthe on the Precautionary Principle and Existential Risk

Groups of people are organising across the country to have the discussion that the Teleco's are not prepared to have.  This is especially to do with health.  Recently groups have sprung up in Albany, Waiheke Island, Mangawhai, Torbay, West Auckland - Coromandel, Tauranga, Wanganui, Wellington, Nelson, and the Golden Bay/Takaka area so there is a grassroots movement spreading like mushrooms - because inherently there is a distrust of corporates, world wide as well as a reticence to believe in what our Governments are saying and not necessarily doing. The Controversy. Sue originally was involved in researching 4G telephone wireless networks and that there was wifi very near to schools. Also, that telephone towers were placed close to play centres - like in one case 5 metres away and that the 'standards for this technology are written by the ‘corporates' who produce this technology. She also researched how the standards are enforced - about the NZ Government Advisory Committee and that if you are concerned about the harm - you are not allowed on the Government Advisory Committee. 5G Technology 5G radio waves are very short but very intense radio waves - and there is yet, not enough health data to support the safety of this technology. There is also the deployment of telephone towers dispersed at around 100 meters distance from each other - especially in major built up areas like the inner city - but also across the suburbs and residential areas. Where our children spend most of their lives, including biota - pets, cats and dogs as well as flora - trees and shrubs. But, we as a community have not been asked if we agree to having the close proximity of these towers to our homes. What Sue questions is, where is the public dialogue around this, when did the Teleco's engage us to ask us for our permission? It's like Spark and Vodafone and the NZ Government are all ready to roll this technology out and we the community are still waiting to have the conversation as to its safety. Where is the engagement with the localised community? The ‘Precautionary Principle’  Scientific Experts who are 'independent' who are not profiting from this 5G tech are realising that there are some serious deficiencies in the actual technology that is being ‘sold’ to us - as well as the process as to how we should approach this ‘new’ technology.  The ‘Precautionary Principle’ is not being adhered to - in the rush to get this technology out into the marketplace. Why the Hyped Up Rush to Roll 5G Out? As of this moment - if 5G was not rolled out for another year or two - how many people would it really affect? Would it affect you and your family? Would the world come to an end? Lets dwell on this, if we waited another year or two to really get clarity to its safety, would this not be prudent? Especially as we already see so many children suffering from health effects, that doctors can not diagnose as to what is the source.  Should we not also add to this a question around the decline in bee numbers? (The canaries in the coal mine?) Sales over Civilisation? The hype that big business is salivating over is driverless cars - well take one look at the coagulated motorways into and out of Auckland at rush hour every day - what's the urgency of a driverless car or wanting to download a movie or a video game into our smart phone in 10 seconds ...? Really, is this where the narrative is going - that ‘we have to have it now’ and get it ‘whilst it is hot?’ If this is the general consensus - then we have to realise that the term 'conscious' choices will never prevail, as we as a civilisation lose our moral compass in a race to the bottom. The Time lag of Learning the Pros and Cons. People who have been alive for 50 years or longer will realise that ‘old NZ’ - was a country where there was a closer relationship between neighbours and community. That we once had politicians who we could approach and genuinely converse with. Political parties had ‘Manifestos” - which they produced prior to an election and that they would follow or do their best to adhere to.  Now-a-days it’s ‘ad hoc’ everything and intentions are thrown out the window as politicians 'make up policy on the fly' and they trust that because the world is moving at such a rapid pace that any flak or faux pas will have its 5 minutes in the headlines - to then be subsumed by more outrageous news to be quickly forgotten by the public - by the next election. With the Corporate Agenda interlocking with Government, as the premise of the eroding of public confidence - we are finding that there is no real intent to educate the public on this global 5G issue. We are being subjected to glitzy advertising - telling us how much better the world is going to be with slick computer graphics and yet, all these videos do not show anything of nature - no trees, flowers or pastures green. (see Spark) - Because they are all being commissioned by head trippers who are controlling the narrative to buy into 5G. Grass Roots Awakening across NZ. However - across NZ there are concerned people who are aware of the problems that 5G may carry with it. Groups of people are organising to have the discussion that Teleco's will not have. Such as recently in Albany, Waiheke Island, Mangawhai, Torbay, West Auckland - Coromandel, Tauranga, Wanganui, Wellington, Nelson, and the Golden Bay/Takaka area that there is a grassroots movement spreading like mushrooms - because inherently there is a distrust of corporate’s worldwide as well as a reticence to believe in what our Governments are saying and not necessarily doing or ... vice versa. Global 5G Awakening This grass roots uprising is happening overseas and at this stage it is in Brussels the seat of the EU Governmental Centre which has come out for a moratorium. But, Mill Valley in California is calling for a halt - Byron Bay in Australia is making a lot of noise and in Switzerland one of the Cantons has dug in and said stop.There are many other places, such as in Italy, Florence is pushing for the Precautionary Principle and the Rome district wants to follow suit. Even in Russia the Defence Ministry has acknowledged 5G’s problems. However, as MSM - ‘mainstream media’ (along with Google) is all pro 5G - it is extremely difficult to get a full coverage of how many regions of all the world’s countries are involved in pushing back. The Minister of the Government of the Brussels-Capital Region, Céline Fremault, has vowed to halt 5G deployment. “The people of Brussels are not guinea pigs whose health I can sell at a profit,” states Fremault in an interview with L’Echo. “I cannot welcome such technology if the radiation standards, which must protect the citizen, are not respected, 5G or not.” Brussels halts 5G deployment indefinitely: 5G project, says authorities, not compatible with radiation safety standards https://www.newstarget.com/2019-08-20-brussels-halts-5g-deployment-indefinitely-radiation-safety-standards.html How Citizens Can Organise To Come Together In this interview NZ's Nuclear Free Movement back in the mid 1980s was invoked as an example of how individuals and communities across the country came together back then. This was when local people, like mothers, churches, disarmament activists and people just wanting a peaceful world went to their local, regional councils, including towns, cities and boroughs and having them pass municipal by-laws that made each particular area a Nuclear Free Zone. That over time the numbers increased until there were around 105 Nuclear Free 'Zones' across the whole nation. These covered an area of around 67% of human habitat - that allowed David Lange the NZ Prime Minister the mandate to make into Law, that NZ become a Nuclear Free Country. This was an example of democracy being allowed to fulfil itself. Building a Groundswell This example of community involvement could be used to encourage NZer's to instigate more 5G communities to show the Government our ‘elected servants’ that there is a huge groundswell of public opinion that is not at all happy with the way 5G technologies is being enforced on the NZ public. More so, that next year NZ is having its general election and this could very well be an election issue. Elections Coming Up Also that later on this year there are Local Government elections and Councillors have to be elected - and already mentioned in this interview 4 Board Members attended the Albany local 5G presentation that allowed them to see the seriousness of what this technology presents. As well as the concerns of the electorate. How to Organise Locally at Grassroot Levels 5GFree-NZ on Facebook and www.5G.org.nz are places for you to peruse - especially - if you want to start up a local 5G Group. Sue is also involved with Oceania Radiofrequency Scientific Advisory Association (ORSAA)  It’s an Advisory Panel that brings together multidisciplinary scientific experts from the Oceania region as well as from other parts of the world. They are connected to many other leading experts globally.  https://www.orsaa.org/advisory-board.html  Doctors and Professionals are ‘encouraged’ not to speak out against 5G. As a side note - because Doctors are in a profession with exacting standards - they have to have permission from their 'Medical Association' - if they wish to make any pronouncements on health issues in the public arena. In the case of speaking up against technologies such as genetic modification, vaccines, fluoridation etc - this is way outside the bounds of what the Medial Association allows. It is forbidden and if a medical professional speaks out against such subject matter they are  'warned' that they will lose their license and thus all such doctors etc are kept on a very short leash.  Hence, you will rarely see a Dr speak out on public health issues. The same goes for scientists and many University professors - as  well. Doctor’s Grouping in Large Numbers. There is a large group of Doctors ready to speak out - so they are grouping in numbers large enough to have safely in numbers. This is about to happen very soon. This is a Global Issue … and we are exposed to 5G radiation 24/7/365 Science is finding DNA damage - and even our ability to clearly think, when in the presence of wireless radiation. Some liken this radiation to living in an airport security zone 24/7/365  The NZ Health Act Legislation and the 1956 NZ Health Act.  It says that they are for  improving, promoting and protecting public health. What does it mean 'protecting public health? This is where the focus of 5G needs to concentrate on. What are the NZ Authorities, the Government and the Health Department doing to prove that this technology is safe? In this interview we learn that the Ministry of Health is interpreting the Act differently and not necessarily protecting public health - but more so vested interests! (Listen) - even just for the first 1 minute will give you a startling understanding of what we are having to deal with. Time for a 5G Moratorium across NZ. By enacting a ‘moratorium’ in the meantime - allows the ‘precautionary principle’ to be acknowledged - this to any wise, civic, responsible elder is the prudent thing to do. Can New Zealand become a global leader and become 5G Free? This is a very quick synopsis of only 15 minutes into this very important understanding of the dangers of deploying 5G before the facts of its safety and efficacy are made known.   5GFree-NZ on Facebook and www.5G.org.nz are places for you to peruse - especially - if you want to start up a local 5G Group. https://takebackyourpower.net/ I enjoyed talking with Sue on this vexing subject, and to find a way to solve the 5G challenge. - Tim

Kai Spiekermann (LSE) gives a talk at the Rationality & Decision Meeting Munich (26-28 Jan, 2012) titled "The Precautionary Principle Reconceptualized".

On February 27, The Harvard Law School Library hosted Prof. Cass Sunstein @CassSunstein for a talk and discussion on his latest release, "On Freedom." Cass R. Sunstein is currently the Robert Walmsley University Professor at Harvard. From 2009 to 2012, he was Administrator of the White House Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs. He is the founder and director of the Program on Behavioral Economics and Public Policy at Harvard Law School. Mr. Sunstein has testified before congressional committees on many subjects, and he has been involved in constitution-making and law reform activities in a number of nations. Mr. Sunstein is author of many articles and books, including Republic.com (2001), Risk and Reason (2002), Why Societies Need Dissent (2003), The Second Bill of Rights (2004), Laws of Fear: Beyond the Precautionary Principle (2005), Worst-Case Scenarios (2001), Nudge: Improving Decisions about Health, Wealth, and Happiness (with Richard H. Thaler, 2008), Simpler: The Future of Government (2013) and most recently Why Nudge? (2014) and Conspiracy Theories and Other Dangerous Ideas (2014). He is now working on group decision making and various projects on the idea of liberty CASS R. SUNSTEIN https://hls.harvard.edu/faculty/directory/10871/Sunstein Harvard Law School https://youtu.be/ZbJlJP3hAug We are proud to be curating a stream of positivity, fact, and information on Twitter at @PublicaccessPod (twitter.com/PublicAccessPod) Facebook as well @PublicAccessAmerica (facebook.com/PublicAccessAmerica). Please take a moment to subscribe, rate and review on iTunes ( goo.gl/soc7KG) The Stitcher Smart Radio App (goo.gl/XpKHWB) or any where you find your favorite podcast.

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Did you know that healthful foodsheds are key to democracy and a sustainable future? Join Food Sleuth Radio host and Registered Dietitian, Melinda Hemmelgarn, for her interview with Philip Ackerman-Leist, M.S., organic farmer, professor of sustainable agriculture and food systems at Green Mountain College (VT), and author of “A Precautionary Tale: How One Small Town Banned Pesticides, Preserved its Food Heritage, and Inspired a Movement.” Ackerman-Leist shares the David-and-Goliath story of Mals, Italy, the tiny town whose residents put their children’s health and future first, and by a referendum vote, banned the use of pesticides. Ackerman-Leist helps us understand how and why protecting and rebuilding our foodsheds is key to a sustainable future, and how no food and agriculture policy change is too difficult if community  members join together with a positive vision and cooperative actions. Related website:  www.topplinggoliath.org

Did you know that today’s children are suffering from increasing rates of auto-immune illnesses, asthma, autism, ADHD, and digestive disorders?  Join Food Sleuth Radio host and Registered Dietitian, Melinda Hemmelgarn, for her interview with Michelle Perro, M.D., author of “What’s Making Our Children Sick? How Industrial Food is Causing an Epidemic of Chronic Illness, and What Parents (and Doctors) Can Do About It.” Perro describes the changes in children’s health she’s witnessed from over 35 years of practice as a pediatrician, how she became interested in integrative medicine, and the connection between genetically modified foods (and related increasing herbicide use), gut integrity and health. She also explains the importance of the Precautionary Principle when protecting children’s health: https://www.sehn.org/ppfaqs.html Related website: https://www.gmoscience.org/whats-making-children-sick-can/

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Despite the fact that our show is pretty much the opposite of careful, we discuss precaution, regulation, and institutional choice with Sarah Light. The environmental and other effects of Uber and Lyft are complicated. If they’re very hard to calculate and understand, how should we regulate them to address their harms? With uncertain webs of causation, can the precautionary principle tell us not simply whether to regulate but who should regulate? Sarah thinks so. This show’s links: Sarah Light's faculty profile and writing Sarah Light, Precautionary Federalism and the Sharing Economy Lisa Rayle, Susan Shaheen, Nelson Chan, Danielle Dai, and Robert Cervero, App-Based, On-Demand Ride Services: Comparing Taxi and Ridesourcing Trips and Use Shared-Use Mobility Center, Shared Mobility and the Transformation of Public TransitCass Sunstein, Beyond the Precautionary PrincipleCass Sunstein, Laws of Fear: Beyond the Precautionary PrincipleRobert Hahn and Cass Sunstein, The Precautionary Principle as a Basis for Decision Making Special Guest: Sarah Light.

Environmental lawyer and executive director of the Science & Environmental Health Network Carolyn Raffensperger lays out the history of the Precautionary Principle and portrays how it can be used as an effective tool in policymaking to protect the public health, environment and future generations. She maintains that it is “the beginning of an essential transformation in the way we relate both to the Earth and to the things we invent.” This speech was given at the 2001 Bioneers National Conference and is featured on the Ecological Medicine, Vol. 1 and Environmental Justice, Vol. 1 Collections. Since 1990, Bioneers has acted as a fertile hub of social and scientific innovators with practical and visionary solutions for the world's most pressing environmental and social challenges. To experience talks like this, please join us at the Bioneers National Conference each October, and regional Bioneers Resilient Community Network gatherings held nationwide throughout the year.

Environmental lawyer and executive director of the Science & Environmental Health Network Carolyn Raffensperger lays out the history of the Precautionary Principle and portrays how it can be used as an effective tool in policymaking to protect the public health, environment and future generations. She maintains that it is “the beginning of an essential transformation in the way we relate both to the Earth and to the things we invent.” This speech was given at the 2001 Bioneers National Conference and is featured on the Ecological Medicine, Vol. 1 and Environmental Justice, Vol. 1 Collections. Since 1990, Bioneers has acted as a fertile hub of social and scientific innovators with practical and visionary solutions for the world's most pressing environmental and social challenges. To experience talks like this, please join us at the Bioneers National Conference each October, and regional Bioneers Resilient Community Network gatherings held nationwide throughout the year. For more information on Bioneers, please visit http://www.bioneers.org and stay in touch via Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/Bioneers.org) and Twitter (https://twitter.com/bioneers).

Nassim Nicholas Taleb, author of Antifragile, Black Swan, and Fooled by Randomness, talks with EconTalk host Russ Roberts about a recent co-authored paper on the risks of genetically modified organisms (GMOs) and the use of the Precautionary Principle. Taleb contrasts harm with ruin and explains how the differences imply different rules of behavior when dealing with the risk of each. Taleb argues that when considering the riskiness of GMOs, the right understanding of statistics is more valuable than expertise in biology or genetics. The central issue that pervades the conversation is how to cope with a small non-negligible risk of catastrophe.

Independent researcher in spiritual science and metaphysics Tom Brown questions our world view and looks at how it is sometimes based on historically inaccurate science.Have we created our society from a faulty model? Have Newton, Darwin, and others, made incorrect assumptions that science is still based on today?How do our belief systems play into this, and why do we need a paradigm shift to correct this? Is our collective unconscious actually creating the reality that we experience? Is life as the quantum physicists describe to us, or have they got it wrong as well?Referring often to Rudolf Steiner’s Etheric Sciences, Tom talks about man’s descent into matter, and how people are living in an illusion. Just to challenge us he asserts that not only is the earth going around the sun, the sun is going around the earth.This interview will not only provoke you, but will stimulate you to question everything you thought you ever knew. Before coming to New Zealand Tom worked as director & chief editor at Borderland Sciences Research Foundation in California. He also organised a global network of researchers and was publisher on numerous cutting edge projects.In  New Zealand in the late nineties he was the Founding Director of the New Zealand Hemp Industries Association.He has written four books: The People Before, with Gary Cook Loom of the Future  - The Weather Engineering Work of Trevor Constable The Lakhovsky Multiple Wave Oscilllator Handbook The L. E. Eeman Report— The Pioneering Years of Biocircuitry Created videos: Nature Was My Teacher – The Vision of Viktor Schauberger The Lakhovsky Multi-Wave Oscillator Free Energy Research with Peter Lindemann and Eric Dollard Tesla's Longitudinal Electricity with Eric Dollard and Peter Lindemann Quaternity Edited: Journal of Borderland Research 1985-1995 (50 issues) Metal Power - Soul Life of the Planets by Alison Davidson The Cosmic Pulse of Life – The Revolutionary Biological Power Behind UFOs by Trevor Constable Lithium and Lithium Crystals by Haroldine Websites: Spectrochrome.com RainEngineering.com BorderlandResearch.com and thomasbrown.org In the talk Tom refers to a movie by Ben Stuart, ‘Esotetic Agenda' This programme is sponsored by www.TheAwarenessParty.com   *    URGENT EARTHFILES FOR THIS WEEK!   * Both Lisa and Tim have already submittedKeep GE and GMO'S out of Auckland and Northland.We need your help! PLEASE WRITE A SUBMISSION. See below.We need massive numbers of submissions to Auckland Council.Auckland's proposed Unitary Plan includes good statements to protect the community against release of GMOs.However, could you take a minute or two to write in support of this - preferably using your own words - and adding any points you want including from the 'background' section further downYour message of support is needed NOW - before the government changes the RMA to block councils having a role in protecting against GM risks, and before Federated Farmers and others write to oppose the Precautionary Principle in the plan.Including your Contact details you could write something like:"I write to support the policy of precaution on GMOs contained in the Auckland proposed Unitary Plan.The Unitary Plan's precautionary GE objective, and methods & policies to achieve that objective, are important to the community.I support local protection against GMO risks, which have been recommended by the Northland /Auckland "Inter Council Working Party on GMO Risk Evaluation & management Options"I support a precautionary approach by council providing an additional tier of protection against risks of outdoor use of GMOs which central government has not addressed through the EPA."Include whether you wish to speak to your submission and whether you would like to receive further information.Email your submission to: unitaryplan@aucklandcouncil.govt.nzPlease email now.Submissions close 28 February 2014 but please send your submission now, before The Minister for the Environment changes the law to stop any precautionary/ prohibitive GE content in the Auckland Council proposed Unitary Plan.  NOW you can see what we are dealing with. The Government moving the goal posts, so that NZ may not become the only ark on earth for uncontaminated organic seeds.Background:Councils in Northland, Auckland, Bay of Plenty, and Hawke's Bay have responded wisely to concerns about GMOs by investigating the risks posed by GMOs in the environment, and how they can best minimize these risks.In Auckland we must write in support of the draft Unitary Plan sections prohibiting GMO release. Auckland Council has worked with other local councils to control GMOs because of gaps in the Hazardous Substances and New Organisms (HSNO) Act.The Plans includes:• ensuring GM operators are financially accountable for the full costs of contamination, clean-up, monitoring and remediation• adopting a precautionary approach to manage potential risks (economic, environmental, social and cultural) from outdoor use of GMOs• protecting marketing advantages associated with a “GE free” status• addressing community and cultural concerns of mana whenua.NOW PLEASE INVITE YOUR FRIENDS TO DO THIS, SO THAT WE HAVE HUNDREDS OF SUBMISSIONS.THINK JUST HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO HAVE OUR BIGGEST CITY AND DISTRICT GE FREE IN OUR ENVIRONMENT.Keep Monsanto out!!Thank youLisa Er

Eighth of nine short introductory podcasts on Bioethics by Marianne Talbot.

Eighth of nine short introductory podcasts on Bioethics by Marianne Talbot.

Eighth of nine short introductory podcasts on Bioethics by Marianne Talbot.

Eighth of nine short introductory podcasts on Bioethics by Marianne Talbot.

Bryan Innes and his partner Joanna Pearsall were the initiators of NZ's first EcoShow, and to this day continue their interests in the ecological and sustainability realm.Now based in Turangi at the base of lake Taupo, they work the land at 'Awhi' Farm - the Maori word for embrace, which they are turning into a living example of sustainability and earth systems.From working with soil, compost and mulch to tasting the sweetness of eating their own home grown organic food, they are truly living in harmony with the land. Bryan is also experimenting with building homes with local earth materials that are cheap and affordable. Building one's own earth house is far cheaper than the mainstream models; these houses are insulated and warm, plus wooden cordwood housing actually breathes, and is ideal for asthmatics and those with certain allergies. Bryan is also importing sustainable tools, such as scythes that are as easy and efficient as a petrol or electric weed eater, and better for you ergonomically, plus other tools made of bronze, with quality as good as steel, as bronze does not rust.Also, following the Precautionary Principle, he is readying their lifestyle for energy decline as the global economic collapse continues to unravel.Bryan is currently engaging Bernard Lietaer, the Belgian who was the architect of the Euro, who has shifted his allegiance to localized currencies, recognizing that the small micro-monetary systems have far more merit if we are to find a way forward. One example of this is the JAK interest free bank in Sweden.Bryan is a gentle steadfast soul who is deeply confident about facing the future with our untapped potential for innovation and harmonious community.www.ecoshow.co.nz

Featured special guests include: Dr. Riki Ott, PhD: a community activist, a former commercial salmon "fisherm'am," and has a degree in marine toxicology with a specialty in oil pollution. She experienced firsthand the devastating effects of the Exxon Valdez oil spill—and chose to do something about it. She is the author of Sound Truth and Corporate Myth$: The Legacy of the Exxon Valdez Oil Spill and Not One Drop: Promises, Betrayal, and Courage in the Wake of the Exxon Valdez Oil Spill (Chelsea Green, 2008). She is also the founder of three nonprofit organizations that deal with lingering harm from man-made environmental disaster. Dr. Ott will be informing us of first hand observation of a possible cover up by BP. Her recent appearance on a variety of news programs has sparked controversy and interest in underlying agendas in the Gulf. www.rikiott.com Peter Taylor: Science Analyst and Policy Adviser to all levels of government, the voluntary sector, international NGOs, the EU and the UN. In 1978 he set up and directed the Political Ecology Research Group in Oxford, pioneering critical environmental review and the service of leading scientists and lawyers in the protection of communities and biodiversity. He was involved in government reviews of ocean pollution and the UN’s system of oversight and protection and participated in the development of the Precautionary Principle and the moves toward clean production technology. From 2000-2003 he sat on the UK government’s national advisory group for the Community Renewables Initiative and has taken a long-standing interest in the environmental impact of energy-related developments. In addition to his scientific training, Peter has a Diploma in Social Anthropology from Oxford University and has studied systems of thought, magic, causation and healing among tribal peoples in Africa. He has also trained with North and South American shamans, worked within the Celtic traditions and is a long-term adherent of Himalayan yogic practice, wherein he specializes in breathing and meditation teaching for health professionals. Gail Swanson author of The Heart of Love : Mary Magdalene Speaks. As a channel and intuitive healer, Gail will be sharing a special message related to the Gulf. After moving from New Jersey 13 years ago to Sarasota Florida, Gail spent many days and nights on the sands and in the water of the magnificent Gulf of Mexico. She walked the crystal sands and bathed in the healing Gulf waters. She feels this magical area was the catalyst that opened her to receive a life changing vision. She was shown of her connection to Mary Magdalene and soon a communication with Mary Magdalene began. She was guided to share these messages to help to bring forth the power of the divine feminine and to help to heal and balance the masculine and feminine energies. She speaks today to express her love for these waters and it’s inhabitants and to discuss the extreme importance of our spiritual connection to all the waters of the earth. www.theheartoflove.com Barbara Hand Clow Best Selling author of The Mayan Code, Mayan Elder will be speaking in terms of time resonation with the 102,000 year Regional Underworld of the Mayan Calendar, and how the oil spill began at EXACTLY 9500 BC, the time of the great cataclysm during the end of the Global Maritime civilization, the fall of Atlantis. Therefore, this oil volcano is either the beginning of a great extinction, or is the trigger for the psychic processing of ourselves as a multi-traumatized species. www.handclow2012.com Dr Ian Prattis Professor Emeritus Carleton University, Ottawa, Canada will be speaking on the topics of The Spin Factor, Consumer Culpability, Spiritual Guidelines and how they relate to the Gulf. A poet and scholar, peace and environmental activist - has trained with Masters in Buddhist, Vedic and Shamanic traditions and gives dharma talks, seminars and retreats around the world. He is the founder of Friends for Peace - a coalition of meditation, peace and environmental groups that works for peace and planetary care and also the resident teacher of a Buddhist meditation community in Ottawa, Canada - the Pine Gate Sangha. He encourages people to find their true nature, so that humanity and the world may be renewed. As a Professor of Anthropology and Religion he teaches courses on Ecology, Symbols, Engaged Buddhism and Meditation Systems. The meditation teacher is not separate from the professor or the global citizen. www.ianprattis.com Barbara Goodfriend: Animal Communicator Shares a special message from the sea animals of the Gulf of Mexico. Animal communication is understanding spoken between species whose hearts and minds are linked through mutual love. It is a thread that weaves interaction in the wild. It brings us deeper levels of compassion and learning in the domesticated world. It is very tangible and beneficial for both the animal and human involved. www.barbaragoodfriend.com

Featured special guests include: Dr. Riki Ott, PhD: a community activist, a former commercial salmon "fisherm'am," and has a degree in marine toxicology with a specialty in oil pollution. She experienced firsthand the devastating effects of the Exxon Valdez oil spill—and chose to do something about it. She is the author of Sound Truth and Corporate Myth$: The Legacy of the Exxon Valdez Oil Spill and Not One Drop: Promises, Betrayal, and Courage in the Wake of the Exxon Valdez Oil Spill (Chelsea Green, 2008). She is also the founder of three nonprofit organizations that deal with lingering harm from man-made environmental disaster. Dr. Ott will be informing us of first hand observation of a possible cover up by BP. Her recent appearance on a variety of news programs has sparked controversy and interest in underlying agendas in the Gulf. www.rikiott.com Peter Taylor: Science Analyst and Policy Adviser to all levels of government, the voluntary sector, international NGOs, the EU and the UN. In 1978 he set up and directed the Political Ecology Research Group in Oxford, pioneering critical environmental review and the service of leading scientists and lawyers in the protection of communities and biodiversity. He was involved in government reviews of ocean pollution and the UN’s system of oversight and protection and participated in the development of the Precautionary Principle and the moves toward clean production technology. From 2000-2003 he sat on the UK government’s national advisory group for the Community Renewables Initiative and has taken a long-standing interest in the environmental impact of energy-related developments. In addition to his scientific training, Peter has a Diploma in Social Anthropology from Oxford University and has studied systems of thought, magic, causation and healing among tribal peoples in Africa. He has also trained with North and South American shamans, worked within the Celtic traditions and is a long-term adherent of Himalayan yogic practice, wherein he specializes in breathing and meditation teaching for health professionals. Gail Swanson author of The Heart of Love : Mary Magdalene Speaks. As a channel and intuitive healer, Gail will be sharing a special message related to the Gulf. After moving from New Jersey 13 years ago to Sarasota Florida, Gail spent many days and nights on the sands and in the water of the magnificent Gulf of Mexico. She walked the crystal sands and bathed in the healing Gulf waters. She feels this magical area was the catalyst that opened her to receive a life changing vision. She was shown of her connection to Mary Magdalene and soon a communication with Mary Magdalene began. She was guided to share these messages to help to bring forth the power of the divine feminine and to help to heal and balance the masculine and feminine energies. She speaks today to express her love for these waters and it’s inhabitants and to discuss the extreme importance of our spiritual connection to all the waters of the earth. www.theheartoflove.com Barbara Hand Clow Best Selling author of The Mayan Code, Mayan Elder will be speaking in terms of time resonation with the 102,000 year Regional Underworld of the Mayan Calendar, and how the oil spill began at EXACTLY 9500 BC, the time of the great cataclysm during the end of the Global Maritime civilization, the fall of Atlantis. Therefore, this oil volcano is either the beginning of a great extinction, or is the trigger for the psychic processing of ourselves as a multi-traumatized species. www.handclow2012.com Dr Ian Prattis Professor Emeritus Carleton University, Ottawa, Canada will be speaking on the topics of The Spin Factor, Consumer Culpability, Spiritual Guidelines and how they relate to the Gulf. A poet and scholar, peace and environmental activist - has trained with Masters in Buddhist, Vedic and Shamanic traditions and gives dharma talks, seminars and retreats around the world. He is the founder of Friends for Peace - a coalition of meditation, peace and environmental groups that works for peace and planetary care and also the resident teacher of a Buddhist meditation community in Ottawa, Canada - the Pine Gate Sangha. He encourages people to find their true nature, so that humanity and the world may be renewed. As a Professor of Anthropology and Religion he teaches courses on Ecology, Symbols, Engaged Buddhism and Meditation Systems. The meditation teacher is not separate from the professor or the global citizen. www.ianprattis.com Barbara Goodfriend: Animal Communicator Shares a special message from the sea animals of the Gulf of Mexico. Animal communication is understanding spoken between species whose hearts and minds are linked through mutual love. It is a thread that weaves interaction in the wild. It brings us deeper levels of compassion and learning in the domesticated world. It is very tangible and beneficial for both the animal and human involved. www.barbaragoodfriend.com