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Are you an aspiring practice owner feeling overwhelmed by the prospect of starting or buying your own practice? In this episode, Kevin Klingshirn offers indispensable guidance tailored just for you. Drawing from his vast experience, Kevin emphasizes the power of resilience, the importance of seeking mentorship, and the critical need for a clear vision of your ideal practice. We explore how Dentagraphics can be a game-changer in helping you make well-informed decisions by providing location and demographic insights.We dive deep into the intricate challenges that come with starting a business, from spotting the right opportunities to understanding market dynamics. Kevin shares his wisdom on leveraging patient demographics and assessing competition, ensuring you're well-prepared to build a thriving practice. This episode is a must-listen for anyone wanting to harness the power of vision, comprehensive market analysis, and strategic planning in their journey toward successful practice ownership.What You'll Learn in This Episode:Why it's essential not to fear failure in practice ownership.The benefits of seeking help and mentorship in your journey.How to define a clear vision for your practice.The role of Dentagraphics in location and demographic assessments.Key challenges practice owners practice owners face and how to overcome them.The importance of understanding patient demographics and competition.Don't miss this chance to turn your practice ownership dreams into reality. Tune in now!‍‍Sponsors:Studio 8E8: Dentistry's story-driven marketing agency. Traditional marketing repels. Story-first dental marketing attracts.We bring your story to life in a way that captivates and connects: https://s8e8.com/affiliates/tdm?utm_source=tdm&utm_medium=affiliate&wc_clear=true‍You can reach out to Kevin Klingshirn here:Website: https://www.dentagraphics.com/Email: kevin@dentagraphics.com‍‍Mentions and Links: Businesses/Brands:StarbucksChipotleTargetBank of America‍Software/Tools:Google Meet‍If you want your questions answered on Monday Morning Episodes, ask me on these platforms:My Newsletter: https://thedentalmarketer.lpages.co/newsletter/The Dental Marketer Society Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/2031814726927041‍Episode Transcript (Auto-Generated - Please Excuse Errors)‍Michael: Hey, Kevin. So talk to us. What's one piece of advice you can give us this Monday morning,Kevin: Monday morning piece of advice knowing your listeners, know, the primary audience is going to be. Young practice owners, and I'll gear this towards those that haven't started a practice or bought a practice, basically haven't entered practice ownership.This is what we help doctors with. one piece of the big puzzle, right? We'll talk more about it in a bit, but demographics, we help doctors figure out like where to start a practice, where to buy a practice, if a location is good or not. We talk to a lot of nervous practice owners. So what I mean by that is.They're going to be first time business owners. They're going to be serious business owners. The general practice is a serious thing. It's a big production. And it comes with a lot of responsibilities. My advice would be just get used to not knowing what you're doing. Get used to asking for help, get used to doing things that are really unfamiliar and you have no idea how they work.The reason why I can relate to it is just because we started this business about 10 years ago now. Seems like a really long time when you say it out loud, but in those 10 years, just as a, a small business owner here at demographics, we've had to do a lot in terms of running a business, hiring operations, fulfillment of the reports and products that we offer, taxes.everything that comes with just being a small business owner. I would guess the idea is, don't be afraid to fail. Don't be afraid to not know, you're always going to be intimidated, but day. The course, why I want to loop this back is a lot of practice owners. They just won't jump in or they're scared to jump in.it's scary. You're never completely ready. We probably weren't completely ready to. Started business when we started a business, but just with time, with talking to people, figuring out, who, good for your team, who's bad for your team, all the world works. that's the only way you're going to get through it.And that's now how we've created a very successful businesses 10 years later. And I think there's a lot of parallels to practice ownership. Michael: Nice, man. One thing you mentioned is, even if you feel like you're, like, completely unready, still you need to jump in, but what would you say if you're looking at two people who are potentially wanting to own a practice, and you tell them, hey, give it more time to one, and then you tell the other one, oh, no, you're ready, you're just overthinking it.what are the signs of give it more time? Kevin: our case, specifically, give it more time in somebody that just doesn't really know where they want to go. They don't know the type of practice that they want to eventually own.They don't have that vision currently laid out.They maybe have just been almost like peer pressured into, I'm of the age where a lot of my peers are starting or buying dental practices. Therefore I should be as well. Everybody's path different. and this goes back to what I was talking about. You don't need to be ready to handle every part of running a business because you probably never will be.somebody has been trained in a very specialized way through school. And then they do. An associate job for however many years. They still don't learn how to run a business. You'll never know exactly how to run a business, until you really just start doing it. But somebody who is ready versus somebody who's not is having a pretty clear vision for the type of practice that they want to do.Own, they know where, and that's really what we help them with. somebody that doesn't, say, you know, type of patient that I want to work with anybody, where should I go anywhere? Well, I'll make money. That's probably not somebody that's quite ready to jump in. Michael: Now, at Denti Graphics, do you see that a lot?Do you see where people are like, Hey man, I'm just going to be peer pressured? Kevin: The term peer pressure doesn't really come up because it's Negative scary. And maybe they don't want to admit that it is peer pressure, but people that just gone through the motion of school associate work, and now it's probably time to buy a practice or start a practice.So that's what I should be doing, but they're just not ready for it. Michael: Gotcha. Anything you recommend that we can like self evaluate? Because I'm sure some people are listening to this and then they're thinking, Snaps, maybe I've been peer pressured. Maybe I'm looking at my Facebook groups and I'm like, it's time for me to be a practice owner too.Kevin: So for me, I just gauge it by talking to people and you can just tell who's ready, who's not, who's taking this seriously versus who's, just asking the questions that they maybe think they should be asking, or, you know, really green questions. Like, I don't know anything about this. I think I'm looking to start a practice for the first time or buy a practice for the first time.and I guess I should start here. I would go back again to like, knowing generally the type of practice that you want to start or buy in the type of community where you want to start or buy in the general area where you want to start or buy.things like that are what come to mind there. Michael: Gotcha. Okay. And then you also mentioned to get used to asking for help when it comes to what y'all initially do, Is that how that kind of came out to be is like, Hey we'll find the right location, the exact specific thing because you felt that wasn't happening or, Kevin: the business was started by my partner here, Kent, uh, 10 years ago, and his background was in like city planning and figuring out like where within a city might be a good place for a project to take place. my brother actually worked in the dental space. He still does. he was with Bank of America 10 years ago, and he was the one who said, Kent, you know, I think that there's an opportunity for this.and I think you'd be really good at it. And Ken kind of checked it out and he's like, yeah, I do think I'd be really good at that. I jumped on board about a year and a half later, when the business got big enough where he couldn't do it all on his own, but it all started with just like identifying an opportunity.It sounds a little cheesier, funny, but kind of with a focus on things like maps and data demographics. Figuring out like where within a city would be a good place do something. I've always been intrigued with like, how does Starbucks and Chipotle and target, how do they figure out where to put their stores?So then when we had a target on the dental space. It was both, a good opportunity to tackle, and Kent had experience in it. I did not to be frank, but something that interests me, just from the job and everything's where I took off from there. Michael: Nice man. Now I've heard of this and I've seen this and we've had a lot of, uh, people on the podcast who either have looked at a location and then they said, the demographics don't work, but I'm still going to do it.Or they've gone the other way, right? Where doesn't work and I'm not going to do it. Now, the ones where it says, I'm still going to do it. What I guess to you, would you recommend if someone goes through this whole process and says, I still want to do it here and it's okay, then just do it. Kevin: Sure. Michael: But is there a, better solution or what do you think?Kevin: I've always saw it. Cause we've talked to people like that. It's like, I'm from this quaint town in California. That's really competitive. And I'm going to start or buy a practice there. I'm going to start a practice there because there's no practices there to buy. If that's your mindset and that's what you want to do, you should do that.doesn't matter how much competition there is. would say, look at, the type of practice that you want to start or buy. And presumably, if you're familiar with the community, you're familiar with the type of dentistry that you'd be doing there. But I think that the right practice owner can take a practice.Really competitive, challenging market through the lines of a startup and make it work just by being driven, standing out, being different, good marketing. but it is our job to assess it and say like, Hey, based on what you want to do, this could either be tough or this looks like a. full go green light.Now, when we do identify those opportunities where the doctor wants to be there, and then we look at it and it's like, Hey, this looks pretty good. got to think that you're gonna have a better shot there initially than a really competitive market. A lot of it comes down to just like supply and demand.Supply of existing practices in an area demand through demand for dental care to kind of simple things that we want to measure to figure out if it's a good area, not considering what this, practice owner might want to do, but anybody that's just dead set on like, Hey, this area I'm from there.This is where I'm going to open their dental practice. Good for you. You've already identified like, one piece of this vision puzzle that I Talked about initially where what's your vision? What's your goal? Like, What do you want to do? What kind of practice do you want to have? If you already know exactly where that practice is going to be, who am I to tell you that you can't have a successful practice there?Michael: Yeah. Interesting, man. So does dendrographics kind of like you guys assess all that with the practice owner? Cause I always, I don't know why I always just thought like, Oh no, we're just going to find you your location and that's it. Kind of thing. Or like, we're going to look at your demographics and that's it.But do you go through that whole background with them? Kevin: We always want to start with describe to us your ideal patient base. And then how a typical process will look like is it's like, okay, I'm in, greater Charlotte. I'll start a practice anywhere in greater Charlotte that matches my ideal patient base.So if this person tells us my ideal patient base is upper middle income homeowners that's a family centric area with strong home ownership and it's stable and high growth and everything like that. let's go out and find you a practical area. think like population density.There's a large market there for dental care large enough. People living in the area, basically, let's not recommend that you start over a national park because there's no competition. And the few people that live there are in your target, patient profile, we find you a practical area that matches your ideal patient base.That's also. Not hyper competitive relative to the area, the less competition, the better. If we can match those other two things, practicality, and then a fit with the patient base that you're going for. Michael: So then in Kevin: the case of like greater Charlotte, if we go through the entire area, we'll come back and we'll say, Hey, these top areas, they match what you're looking for the best.Now it's part two of the job is then to go out and we don't know inventory of available. Real estate. Right. So can you go out and figure out where are there available properties in these areas like in greater Charlotte that matches what you're looking for that's in the areas where we've recommended and of course consider other things.The terms of the real estate that you're looking at, uh, are you fond of the area? And that's all part of the site selection process until ideally in the very end, you find a location somewhere that you're fond of somewhere where the price is right. The terms are right. and then where we've generally recommended that you look when we assess the market at the beginning.Michael: Gotcha. Okay, man. That's interesting. So all that kind of comes into, and then is that like a specific, if you don't mind me asking, Uh, for that, is it everybody's different or is it like a set thing or what does that look like? Kevin: So in terms of our services or products we have two types. We have a platform software basically where somebody can go on there.It's a little bit more DIY. And run their own research, work with us directly to like assess areas. So picture you get access to software and then you're working with me on the side to like do Google meets and look at different areas and assess locations. So that would be our subscription side of the business.On the other side is what we call like our legacy business, and that's our custom reports. There's two reports that we sell. There's a single site study and there's an area analysis. The area analysis, that's the first one I laid out where doctors in greater Charlotte, they don't know where to go. We're going to recommend where we think are the top areas for them based on again, competition, ideal patient base, practicality.That area analysis is 699. The site study, that's As in depth as we can get on one specific office location. So is one, two, three main street, Concord, North Carolina, good location for the startup dental practice that I want to get going here. So everything we can tell a doctor about one, two, three main street.Is it a fit with your patient base from very weak to very strong? You know, How do we assess it? But between the. Software in the report side of the business, two different types that we, I would say at this point about equally, sell in terms of like what people buy, but it's, do you want to do it the more do it yourself route?So this is people getting on our web app, running their own searches, we have a lot of cool tools in there. We wouldn't, you know, 15 minutes, unfortunately, wouldn't cover. A full like product overview, but like you can send mailers to off market dental practices. If you're looking to, purchase a dental practice, you can run an instant search on a location.And we've even rolled out like a new tier, which is designed more for like the existing practice owner. It's called the grow tier, where. You can plot your patients at an active dental practice on a map. So like if I have two locations in greater Columbus, Ohio, and they're five miles apart, but I want to see like every patient down to the address level, like where they fall on a map within drive times, where they're coming from, if there's a part of Columbus where you're not getting a ton of patients, but you know, that's an area where.the demographics match your preferred, like patient type. We can like market to those areas. And then there's also a direct mail tool now that we just wrote out it's targeted direct mail, where we can say like, all right, I'm in Columbus, Ohio, I want to target, a pediatric dentist in Columbus, Ohio, I want to go after new movers.With children income of, this number and above how many households meet that criteria. And then directly through our app, send them direct mail at like 59 cents a piece. So it's really affordable. It's super targeted. And it's another tool that we've rolled out to help, not just those starting by doctors, which has primarily been over the past decade, our wheelhouse, but now to, Existing practice centers to help grow their practices.So again, if we did like a total product overview, it would take a bit, but we've grown a lot since those legacy reports, the area analysis, the single site study don't sell a ton of them. But, uh, we're of course always looking for new ways to like fill in gaps where maybe we don't fit. We don't have a product that fits exactly what somebody is looking for.can we create products to do that? Michael: Yeah. Kevin: all sort of under the umbrella of data analysis, competition, mapping, and things like that. Michael: Awesome. Awesome, Kevin. I appreciate your time. And if anyone has further questions, where can they reach out to you directly? Kevin: I am easy to get ahold of my emails.Kevin at denta graphics. com. our website is denta graphics. com. You can book a demo on there just to meet one of us here and talk about where you're at in this process, how we can help discuss your search, things like But yeah, we're easy to get a hold of. So anybody that wants to reach out again, Kevin at dendrographics.com is my email or the website's dendrographics. com. Michael: Awesome. So that's going to be in the show notes below. And Kevin, thank you for being with me on this Monday morning episode. Kevin: Thank you, Michael. Appreciate you having me here. ‍

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00:00.33 mikebledsoe Yes, I was just writing I was doing my books waiting on that max here and. 00:01.00 Max Shank Oh. 00:07.77 Max Shank We were just saying. It's nothing like a ah novel. It's nothing like a ah book. But that's how it all really began was we wanted to write down that you owe me 10 goats and I owe you. My daughter's hand in marriage when she comes of age or something like that right? it's it's Contracts. It's contracts. Basically I O use. 00:25.60 mikebledsoe Yeah I remember. Ah yeah, it's a recording of of transactions so recording of contracts agreements the I remember um watching my. 00:42.30 Max Shank It's like the word record you record a record. 00:44.30 mikebledsoe yeah yeah I remember watching my dad do the books for his business back in like you know the 80 s and 90 s you know I wasn't I wasn't aware enough to know what he was doing until probably the early 90 s but ah. 00:49.82 Max Shank Yeah. E. 01:03.41 mikebledsoe Yeah I just remember him like having an actual book of things and and writing in the ledger where the money went and this not I Just remember like that was the most frustrated I ever saw him like. 01:11.51 Max Shank Oh. 01:18.76 Max Shank Is. 01:20.69 mikebledsoe Like the guy. The guy's a craftsman right? He he was a craftsman and so like ah he was a builder like he did a lot of ah home improvements but also built these really amazing cabins from scratch and yeah. 01:24.29 Max Shank What craft. 01:36.18 Max Shank No shit building a cabin from scratch is like a really cool thing I think now that's what I think is cool now I think that is cool now I used to think lifting something really really big over your head was super cool. 01:39.60 mikebledsoe Yeah, so he was. 01:43.13 mikebledsoe Totally. 01:52.25 mikebledsoe Um, yeah, yeah. 01:55.28 Max Shank And it still kind of is but now making your own cabin from scratch that is fricking cool. 02:01.27 mikebledsoe Well, it's interesting because you know he was so gifted at that and then because he wanted to do things the way he wanted to do them meant that he was going to own his own business which then came with all these other ah requirements. Ah, for. 02:18.27 Max Shank Who. 02:20.53 mikebledsoe To do that because and really the only reason is required is because you have to pay taxes. Other than that you you wouldn't actually have to maintain books. It'd probably be beneficial to maintain books to maintain a ah record of of your transactions and all that stuff. 02:31.97 Max Shank Yeah. 02:37.60 mikebledsoe But I think a guy like that would have done better just to have been winging it the whole time and put more of his attention into what he was actually skilled at. 02:45.24 Max Shank Man that speaks so much to me because we could talk about this probably all day right? where these different personality types crazy thrive in one way and then really struggle in another way and it's like how do you. Compound and multiply your zone of Genius while minimizing the damage of one of these let's just call it a ah deficit or or just like a ah simple lack of desire to do you know back in the day if if you went out on the hunt. 03:15.51 mikebledsoe Um, what. 03:22.60 Max Shank Crafting is like a version of hunting or gathering kind of you can make that that leap it's about energy transformation and generation. Ah, there was no need to really keep a record because you either came home with food or you did not. There's no like little book. Oh I can. 03:35.72 mikebledsoe Right. 03:41.83 Max Shank Didn't get food again today. It's like no, we all know. 03:43.47 mikebledsoe Yeah I think the only like thinking ahead that people had to do early on was if you lived up North you had to think about the seasons changing but aside from that you know if the the closer you move to the equator the less. 03:53.97 Max Shank Um, yeah. 04:01.48 mikebledsoe You really have to keep a record or think about much of the past or the future. It really is about. Did you bring home a kill today or did you find some food today or are we warm. Are we comfortable today? Yeah, so yeah, the um I you know what I I find to be interesting is. 04:10.29 Max Shank Right. 04:21.38 mikebledsoe I avoided doing the books in my business I avoided doing bookkeeping anything with finance at all and so ah, a little over a year ago I decided to I was talking to a friend I was talking to a friend like two and a half years ago and he was like well. 04:27.48 Max Shank It. Ah. 04:40.29 mikebledsoe You know you've never done your books I go no he goes you should probably do your books at some point just so you you know what's happening in the business like at a very granular level and I go I go. Okay, he goes I Still do my books and he's he runs multiple companies and. 04:47.89 Max Shank I. 04:58.20 mikebledsoe This and that definitely a different personality than I am right? but but he was right. There was a there was a there was something about the business I didn't quite understand yes I could get by without it I didn't need to do it. But if I rip. 05:00.86 Max Shank Um, yeah. 05:09.86 Max Shank Um, well, you're a star Mike you can make it you can make it work even if it's not a good plan and I can relate. 05:23.74 mikebledsoe It's how you broke up for a None 05:24.72 Max Shank Oh you can make a good plan Work. You can make a bad plan work. Ah, just because you have those skills and I can super relate to that and when you're ah less wise you trick yourself into thinking. That you had a good plan but really, you had a shit plan and you just happened to pull a miracle out of your ass. 05:48.20 mikebledsoe Yeah, there's a pattern of behavior if you were to look back that the ah and it it is. It's like my whole family The ah the whole family. There was a saying growing up was like a ble so could fall into a pile of shit and still smell like a rose. 05:57.65 Max Shank But. 06:08.40 mikebledsoe like like 1 of those like we would put ourselves in these predicaments. But somehow we'd fucking escape. Yeah yeah, and it was kind of like a running joke. But the the thing is is when that is true when that's happened enough times. It starts. 06:14.20 Max Shank Find the shower. Yeah. 06:22.76 Max Shank Oh. 06:27.66 mikebledsoe It's It's hard to make planning important when not planning you still get pretty good Results. Maybe not the ultimate result you're looking for but pretty good results and I think most people have ah they have developed some type. Of something in their personality ah patterns of behavior in their life where they have continued to get a reward and so that's why they keep behaving that way even though there might be some people saying hey you might want to try it this other way. It's like why would I listen to somebody suggesting to do it another way unless my weight. Hasn't been working but what happens is as we get to a certain point that has happened with me. It's like I keep butting up against the same ceiling right? It's like oh every time I try to make more than this amount of money I hit the ceiling every time I do this I hit a ceiling and or every time I have a certain goal I hit a ceiling in the in. 07:17.28 Max Shank Oh. 07:22.65 Max Shank On. 07:27.70 mikebledsoe Reason is because the thing that got me to where I am now is probably the thing that's going to hold me back moving forward and I'm ah I'm a huge fan of of ah knowing your weaknesses and studying it. 07:33.46 Max Shank Interesting idea. 07:46.19 mikebledsoe A little bit just so you know what you don't know like I I do I learn enough about finance so that I know how to I can at least spot the Bs I can tell if somebody else knows what they're talking about. But if I don't know anything about it and I just straight up delegate it Out. I I think that's dangerous because I've done that before and gotten burned. How about you have you had like business partnerships and stuff like that where like not necessarily because somebody burned you. But. 08:12.67 Max Shank Um, like you repeat that you you receive you repeat the same pattern is that what you're asking or. 08:18.90 mikebledsoe No, no, no like if you don't know enough about a task that you have not developed yourself and say you completely outsource that task That's that's a problem. 08:29.86 Max Shank Oh yeah, yeah, you put something you put something outside of your observation and and it leaves you vulnerable in in several ways I know at Discount Tire They don't promote anyone from the outside. It's only from the um. 08:47.60 mikebledsoe Yeah, um. 08:49.31 Max Shank The bottom up the whole thing and it's all about knowing every part of the process. Ah dude, you've said so many things that I want to respond to I took a couple notes here and the first one was ah in relation to the the bookkeeping. It's like. 09:01.15 mikebledsoe You. 09:07.88 Max Shank Reminded me immediately of the word intuitive eating and intuitive movement. So now we have intu intuitive finances. Ah here here on our show. We do intuitive finance is a new course coming out featuring ah featuring ah the. 09:19.79 mikebledsoe Let me go see if that domain's available. 09:26.96 Max Shank The crypto prince Mike Bledso and the ah the dinosaur. 09:29.82 mikebledsoe Um, there's like so many domains I have to buy right now just spitting them out. Yeah. 09:35.97 Max Shank Totally all right? So check it, you have intuitive eating and intuitive movement people are probably familiar with those terms but None of the things I was talking with my buddy about ah we're like man how are you shouldn't do. Intuitive eating if you suck like if you don't have knowledge and skills like intuitive eating is for sure the best way I would I mean it's a bold claim intuitive eating can be wonderful but you but also you need to have. 10:05.30 mikebledsoe Well, you have to be in touch with your intuition for it to work for 1 10:14.61 Max Shank Some understanding of what is in the food like you can't if you go on just like pure ah like gut reaction. You're just going to eat ah like chips and soda pop all day long because it's delicious. So with finances you dig into the books a little bit. 10:17.74 mikebledsoe By the way. 10:34.52 Max Shank Now you might have a chance to approach something. That's a little bit more intuitive because now you have that vocabulary that ah understanding of the elements right? So that was the None thing I thought of um, it made me laugh. 10:50.14 mikebledsoe Let's you got to have this structure. You have to have this structure in order to flow and like an intuition and flow go hand in hand. Yeah, exactly. 10:55.40 Max Shank Right? We're talking about that last week right we were talking about that last week. The pipes are the structure and it harnesses the flow in the direction you want it to go ah and then the other thing that was interesting. We were talking about how? ah. A good outcome doesn't mean you had a good plan and if you're a super achiever guy. You can basically make a bad plan work and you don't want to conflate those 2 you don't want to confuse those things and think oh my plan was good. Really no, you're a stud but your plan sucks and so that's kind of. Looking at those weaknesses and then finally um, the the the identity perpetuating patterns is a funny one to me like if you ah I don't I don't know if this is true. It feels kind of true to me. But if you pride yourself and you label yourself as someone who's extremely tough who can take a lot of punishment and get back up every time they fall down. I have this idea that life is going to feed you more of that. What do you What do you think about that your identity perpetuating your reality. 12:15.37 mikebledsoe Um, oh yeah, absolutely the? Ah ah well what we have to talk about the reticular activating system in this case and ah the RAS as a part of the brain. 12:27.38 Max Shank Save the 10 dollars words for another podcast you son of a bitch. 12:34.80 mikebledsoe Is responsible for so spotting things. So for instance, um, if I go buy a red pickup truck. What am I going to see a lot of on the road red pickup truck. We all know this we've all heard you know and we've all had the experience of. 12:35.99 Max Shank Fucking nerd. 12:45.98 Max Shank You. 12:52.32 mikebledsoe We become interested in something and then all of a sudden we we start seeing it everywhere and we see it's a sign. Um and and so ah, the same thing happens with identity. If we believe something about ourselves and I like the way you talk about identity max which is you know the story we tell ourselves about ourselves if we that is our identity and we have this story about what is true I also like to think about what we believe to be true about ourselves and what we believe to be true about the world. Those are the None big things to have beliefs about right? It's either a belief about self or belief. 13:28.64 Max Shank Yeah, maybe that's what encompasses your identity right? is your place in the world. Also it's not just the label you attach to yourself. It's um, there's that classic phrase is you know. Life is happening for you. Some people believe and some people believe life happens to you I used to start off asking people questions like ah do you feel Life is more like a game a show or a ride I used to start all my like coaching programs with these weird. 13:47.29 mikebledsoe Right. 14:07.70 Max Shank Questions and then I'd ask people what the word intelligent means and people would stumble all over it and have no clue what smart even means and it was just like this fun thing but depending on how you see life if you see life is more like a ride you might have a hell of a wild and awesome ride. But it's going to be different than someone who thinks they are playing a game that they must win right? It's going to be huge difference. 14:27.60 mikebledsoe Yeah, totally yeah, right is passive that it's happening and there's not much I'm going to do um, a game I'm an active participant. It might be great. Ah. 14:36.17 Max Shank Um, and it might be great. It might be great. The the thing is like I want to I make sure that people understand I'm not trying to say that one is superior although I love games and winning is fun. Winning isn't everything. But it's the only thing right? There's that all like ah but I've I've met people who live life like it's a ride and they they do well and they're very happy and I've seen people who. Live life like a game and it's a real challenge the whole time and it doesn't look as far and vice versa. So There's quadrants you know. 15:19.30 mikebledsoe Yeah, well I think the ride I think the ride is a good way to go if you have momentum in a certain direction. There's like because well well what? what? ah. 15:32.12 Max Shank Everybody's got momentum in a certain direction dude like you the word momentum starts with the word mom. As soon as you get launched out of a vagina there is momentum to you. 15:42.85 mikebledsoe Yeah, well if you're if you're in a poor trajectory and you're on a ride then it's not a good thing. But if you have if you're going in a great direction with Momentum then the ride is probably really good for you. So. 15:45.53 Max Shank Your life has momentum as soon as you cross the gate. Yeah. 15:58.64 Max Shank I Like that we're going to bring it back to physics here. Yeah, we're going to coast a little bit kick push kick push Coast right? I think with when it comes to work which is ah a big part of. 16:05.45 mikebledsoe Exactly exactly. 16:17.36 Max Shank Ah, even having any accounting or bookkeeping to do. It's um, it's nice to remember that the suffering that you feel the amount of effort you apply has ah very little to do. 16:35.71 mikebledsoe Yeah. 16:35.97 Max Shank With the result you know, ah Momentum and Aerodynamics are a really really nice example of that. So just just having ah a better, a better setup can be. Be a huge difference maker. It doesn't matter how much effort or suffering goes into it I think that's ah, another big identity thing I know for me that was ah that was a challenge I Thought that suffering was proportional to success or or good or goodness right? Um, and I think. 17:08.96 mikebledsoe Yeah, yeah. 17:13.79 Max Shank A lot of people still do believe that is my guess so like. 17:14.60 mikebledsoe They do I talk to people who do all time I Want to go back to like the the collecting of evidence for what you believe about the world and what you believe about yourself. So this this identity you know who you believe you are and what you believe the world is and how you fit inside of it. 17:26.34 Max Shank Oh. 17:33.77 mikebledsoe You These are all just a series of narratives that are playing out most of these narratives were set up when you were a kid and you what you've been doing the whole time. He's been collecting evidence to support it you ah the that part of your. 17:42.86 Max Shank I. 17:53.20 mikebledsoe Brain doesn't go out there looking for things that don't support it. They're going out there look for things that do support it and so you can tell? Yeah, so when you yeah so when you have stacked a lot of time. 18:03.25 Max Shank Confirmation Bias I think is what that's called think like racism like racism you you get up ah in the morning your parents are racist. They're saying bad things about the neighbors. Maybe you live in a bad area where. 18:14.32 mikebledsoe Um, yeah. 18:20.45 Max Shank All your neighbors are bad white and black and yellow and different colors alike but you only look out like what you were saying with your ah reticular activating system is you look out for those things and not only is it that you see them. Because what you notice is so different than what you see and you just confirm those beliefs over and over again because your vision is crazy small and Selective. You know, kind of going back to the vision Piece. It's a very complex mechanism that. Creates a total illusion inside your brain. 19:02.83 mikebledsoe There was a I was listening to a podcast by Lex Friedman the other day I forget who shared it with me. Um, but he's he's ah interviewing this like evolutionary physicist I don't know like so some some dude that's they. Is way smarter than either None of us and he was talking about. 19:24.72 Max Shank Well I resent that clearly you don't know what the word smart means. 19:29.65 mikebledsoe Ah, this guy. Ah, basically through mathematics is able to demonstrate how our perception is. It's impossible for our perception to match reality. And in fact, it's so far from reality that. Which which isn't not news to you or me but to a lot of people. They they do think that they're noticing some things and then they're perceiving others when in fact, it's None perception that's happening and if we look out through lens of evolution then what we're what we have is. Ah. Ah, ah, the fittest right? It's it's the fittest is what evolves it's not It's not the truth. So the truth does not actually ah doesn't come into play when it comes to survival so whatever you whatever you need to perceive in order to survive. Is how your entire consciousness will develop. 20:33.22 Max Shank When you say truth What do you mean because I I would agree that what a person sees is dependent on their memory because what they're what they're doing is they're differentiating ah the way a picture is interpreted. 20:50.10 mikebledsoe And um. 20:52.71 Max Shank And the picture is just simply about the ah um, the reception of light and we only have a small visible spectrum. So you're talking about the truth being everything versus what is visible to the naked eye. Oh then. 21:08.25 mikebledsoe That's correct. 21:11.57 Max Shank Absolutely I mean there's ah there are some great pictures. You can look up on the electromagnetic spectrum That's like a really cool ah thing to check out. Everything is just buzzing around and some of it. We can see and some of it. We can't and some animals. 21:26.57 mikebledsoe Yeah, and but it's not. It's not necessary. Yeah. 21:30.52 Max Shank And see ultraviolet and Infrared. It's not Useful. It's really about what is a um I feel like I say it all the time.. It's like what is a predictable Pattern. What is a predictable pattern if you have a really hard turtle shell on your back. It's predictable that. Nothing is going to bite through it as long as you're inside the shell if you're inside a cave and the cave is sealed the the jaguar or the leopard or the line will not get you in the night those kind of things are um. 21:52.83 mikebledsoe Yeah, yeah. 22:09.88 Max Shank Stuff that we've learned based on what we've seen but it's not the the whole picture right. 22:13.80 mikebledsoe No, no. But yeah, so we look for the fact is almost nobody has an accurate understanding of the world or of themselves. Well that. 22:26.49 Max Shank What do you mean? almost nobody who's this who's this guy that has it all figured out I want to meet this dude and. 22:32.64 mikebledsoe There's this one guy there's this one guy I think that he may have it figured out but he'll remain nameless. 22:40.97 Max Shank He's the one he's the 1 standing on the milk crate at the corner of a Columbus and None right? it it is probably someone like that I mean hey yeah, the concept. 22:44.00 mikebledsoe For sure for sure. He's the fuck crazy fucker lives under the bridge. Well, there's a have you read? the have you read this series by Jed Mckenna okay Jeed Mckenna wrote a ah. 22:57.58 Max Shank M. 23:00.16 mikebledsoe Series. The first book is called spiritual enlightenment The damnedest thing and um I used to be really hesitant to even mention it in public. But I've gotten a little bit looser because you know what if you want to destroy your entire ego. You know who am I to stop you So the. This guy. Ah, this guy wrote this book on Enlightenment. He basically outlines how spirituality is actually ah will keep you from being enlightened and really creates a distinction between the 2 And you know that the the deal is you can't explain what enlightenment is because it's something that would only you can only experience once it's you can only experience it and then once you've experienced it. There's no going back to the illusion and. 23:53.90 Max Shank Well, and once again, what are we trying to describe when we say the word enlightenment so just getting really right? It's ah it's a sign. It's a symbol that we're using to determine like this feeling that we we have this feeling in mind. 23:57.14 mikebledsoe Was It's indescribable. Well well being well being well being. Well different people. Well a lot of people see it as a feeling but the the way the guy describes it This book is that you only see you you know the absolute truth at all times you're. 24:11.78 Max Shank Right? and. 24:21.41 Max Shank Yeah. 24:23.10 mikebledsoe You stabilize that state of consciousness and um, basically life gets incredibly boring because there's no narratives I mean you can witness narratives but you're not actually participating um in them anymore at all. 24:37.11 Max Shank Um, yeah. 24:42.64 mikebledsoe There's nothing to believe about yourself. There's nothing to believe about the world outside of what you can directly validate for yourself through observation and even then the story that tying the the dots together to create a narrative just doesn't exist anymore. 24:59.11 Max Shank It would be so hard to function with other people if you actually did that it'd be. 25:03.36 mikebledsoe Well well in the book If you read the book series. You'd really, there's he he's basically documenting conversations and he fucking almost hates having to interact with people. You know it's It's not a you know he basically just sees everybody as little children. 25:15.30 Max Shank Um, right. 25:21.59 Max Shank Well that I agree with I mean people are like little children. Um. 25:23.32 mikebledsoe Well, he gets into that in the book as well. I think you would enjoy the series. Yeah, it's a it's a trilogy. It's it's I chuckled my way through it and it was. It was pretty good. Ah although I. 25:30.36 Max Shank The series. Okay. 25:40.35 Max Shank I Feel like. 25:42.47 mikebledsoe Read it in 2017 at it early Twenty seventeen it ah it did do a number on me totally totally. 25:46.65 Max Shank Ah, might hit a little different now too. Ah I liked what you said about spirituality getting in the way of enlightenment because when I think of the word enlightenment I Like you know me I like to keep things as simple as possible because I'm not as smart as all these science guys and. 25:55.97 mikebledsoe Yeah, yeah, yeah. 26:11.66 Max Shank When I think of enlightenment I think about just a reduction in in mass. So you're you're reducing So you're trying to literally make yourself lighter. Yeah, it's like I wrote this phrase down that I've always loved. It's like you can only sharpen. 26:20.42 mikebledsoe It's a destructive process. 26:31.20 Max Shank By removing material like otherwise it's a different thing but you sharpen something by taking stuff away and ah there are a lot of different analogies in some ancient wisdoms About. You know, don't be sharp like a sword you know, let yourself become dull and plain like a stone in a River and that kind of stuff and I really resonate with that and the more you have to keep up with these stories the the more you are burdened. And so it's like how do you find a way to fully connect which is like flow in that moment without getting attached and you realize every attachment you have is derived from that identity that you have all all the attachments. Are in relation to your identity. It's like a big net where you're the center spoke or maybe a wheel where you're in the center and it's all these relationships with everything else. 27:30.19 mikebledsoe Well, the way the way that Jed ah he describes it in the book. He's like you know, a lot of people like to think about what you're talking about these these these beliefs that are in our consciousness like I believe they're in this beautiful web. Or a net or something like that he goes the reality is it's a rat's nest. You have no idea what belongs where until you start pulling a thread and and even then you don't know what? Ah every what all it was connected to and um, yeah, so like that that really hit home for me when. 27:59.22 Max Shank Um, oh yeah. 28:08.74 mikebledsoe Because I up to that point I was thinking Oh there's this beautiful web and if I pull this part of the web then I'm not really sure what'll happen on this other side of the web but he's like now it's a Rat's nest. It's just as a is a disaster zone inside of people's minds. Oh. 28:17.48 Max Shank E. 28:23.29 Max Shank Um, often yeah. 28:27.88 mikebledsoe Which I find to be accurate because anytime I've worked with people through like a belief and then we watch it dissolve. There's just no way to predict how that's going to impact their life. It's like oh I didn't know it wass going to impact that area of your life in that way. Okay, that was a surprise. 28:43.17 Max Shank Some people are more attached. Some people are a little some people have a pretty easy time letting stuff go and some people have ah a really hard time or. 28:44.79 mikebledsoe Some people are more attached. 28:52.64 mikebledsoe I have um so I have a ah story to share I have a ah mentee I was talking to yesterday and he goes mike do you believe in curses I was like well um, you know. If you're talking about someone putting a curse on you if you believe someone put a curse on you then the only way the curse will work is if you believe that the curse is real if you believe that someone put a curse on you then it weren't like you you are cursed and and. 29:21.25 Max Shank Um, then it definitely worked. You're fucked. That's yeah. 29:29.50 mikebledsoe And you're the only one that can undo it right? and so and so that was That's how I started he goes. He's like well well I met this guy and he said that he said that Um, my family had a curse and I. 29:43.89 Max Shank Sounds like 1 of them spiritual ah barriers to enlightenment perhaps or maybe he was right I don't I don't know. 29:48.16 mikebledsoe Yeah, well well Ego I Go what? Well I say I I was like well we have to Define Curse of course that we we do that on the show at Lot. We Define things and I was like like look I don't I don't necessarily believe in curses in the way that ah. People who use that language probably believe in them because I don't need to believe in the curse I Um I I think that people use that language when they're actually confused about what that is. It's like this. It's mystical. And that's one of the things that ah jeed was getting in the book with spirituality is there's so so much mysticism and that is there's so much mystery, There's so much that we don't understand that you have to buy into and that happens a lot in spirituality people start throwing these words around and I don't know what they're talking about. 30:44.60 Max Shank On. 30:44.85 mikebledsoe And I'm pretty sure they have no idea what they're talking about because they just strung together a bunch of words that don't make any sense to to anybody in the room and if I were to ask them to break it down in plain language. It's not going to happen and so anytime anyone starts using a lot of flowery language. Both me my fiancee would just leave. 30:55.95 Max Shank Um, right. 31:04.62 mikebledsoe Like neither one of us like to put up with that that shit you know and so that there's a lot of people in the quote unquote conscious community that exists that like you know I think they're doing good stuff I like them and all that but we're probably not going to hang out I don't want to like those people are confused. And so ah, what. 31:25.45 Max Shank How could people not be confused I mean we act like it's just been this sequential build. But the reality is that cultures and nations and peoples and laws have just been patched together ah time and time again with. Almost never having a chance to really clean the slate. That's why when you have something like America it's like whoa. It's not totally blank slate but it's it's pretty close. They were like okay, let's let's think about this real quick like. 31:54.53 mikebledsoe It was. It was pretty. It was pretty blank. 32:04.41 Max Shank What are we going to do here and because and then of course now what we have is just the patchwork quilt of that initial weaving and we're just sticking stuff in here and we're like oh yeah, the school's not doing so good so they need more tests or we'll teach them the tests ahead of time and. 32:09.64 mikebledsoe Yeah, yeah, yeah. 32:23.67 Max Shank It's just all these fucking patches and ah so it's no wonder that it's just this absolute cluster fuck like you were saying where most of the stuff you just have to take on faith Ah, which of course is kind of kind of back to. Well. 32:35.95 mikebledsoe We you don't have to I I I try not my my goal is I tell people a lot of times they'll ask me what I believe I go and I said you know I don't believe in much of anything if I can't validate it for myself then I'm gonna tell you. 32:42.72 Max Shank Yeah I mean. 32:55.92 mikebledsoe I don't know. Ah there are things that are useful if I were to believe when I believe this way it's something I can't validate for myself. But I can validate the result of believing it which is ah something I want in my life or something I don't want in my life. So I I like to. 32:56.92 Max Shank O. 33:04.61 Max Shank And. 33:11.30 Max Shank E. 33:14.52 mikebledsoe Be able to admit that I have no idea what the truth is but I do know what's useful and ah there are some things that I can validate for myself and I just know that now going back to the curse and and a curse on the family the the way that I. I Talked about that with him is that every family has a curse and the yeah and they they have some blessings as well. But the but the curse. 33:40.63 Max Shank Whoa How about a blessing do they have blessings Also because if you can curse another person then it would stand to reason that you could also bless them The logic's not sound completely. But. 33:48.22 mikebledsoe Um, yeah, you could. 33:55.70 Max Shank If you believe that you can be cursed. You probably also believe someone could say a prayer for you or give you a blessing or cast a magical spell. 33:59.91 mikebledsoe But I think we've all seen this like I think what? But what he was talking about is that there's a trend in his family. There's a trend of this pattern of behavior and and it seems mysterious to to them and maybe to people around them who who. 34:08.84 Max Shank In. 34:19.57 mikebledsoe Are Not very good at paying attention. Um, they're not in that practice and so but if you pay attention close Enough. You have well there is a pattern of behavior that's leading to these cursed results right? These results to seem to be a curse. Well the curse is going to be a mystery until you. Until you go to? why are people why? what is the behavior that's leading to this and where did that behavior come from and. 34:45.17 Max Shank Back to curiosity if you can get to that state like then then that's like as close as you can get to a ah blank slate moving forward is to get curious about what is rather than confirming what you believe I think is the. 34:52.22 mikebledsoe Key So curiosity keep curiosity. 35:04.14 Max Shank The major key so you're curious about what is or perhaps what can be ah and that way you are not confirming the pre-existing beliefs right? Which definitely feels more stable I mean everything. All the all this talk about writing stuff down and recording things is to increase predictability and stability. So I feel comfortable lending you the None goats. 35:30.35 mikebledsoe Yeah, well this is what as you I said Curiosity is the cure for curses. So if you if we're going to show title somehow. So so so um, look so I'm talking to him and I go. 35:38.60 Max Shank Um, cool. That's that sounds nice. 35:50.26 mikebledsoe This is the curse is what your parents learn from from their parents and then what they taught you is is there's an ancestral pattern of behavior that's playing out and if you don't understand how that pattern works then it's going to be mysterious. And then someone's going to come along and and use the label curse because it's the word curse is kind of a mysterious thing in itself like Witches curse things and that you know it's kind of like it's magic. Yeah, so like I and then so I have to go back in that. Yeah. 36:15.78 Max Shank Um, yeah, like a Hex or something like that. Yeah, but you can use magic for good too. You know. 36:24.97 mikebledsoe It to something that's magical or mystical is just something you don't understand how it works yet. Yeah. 36:29.62 Max Shank Yes, exactly magic You don't get the trick and as soon as you know how it works. It's not magic anymore. It's just a trick hey do the trick. You know it's magic when you don't follow what's happening and most things really are magic I'm a very curious guy I don't like to not know stuff. 36:36.33 mikebledsoe Now. 36:47.11 mikebledsoe Yeah. 36:49.43 Max Shank Honestly, maybe it's maybe it's a character defect or an an effect I don't I don't know exactly what it is but ah, it's really difficult actually to know how stuff works just if you look around wherever you are right now and just try to figure out how all the stuff is working. Unless you are a like Captain Science or something like that. You're going to find it really taxing to figure out how everything works in the world around you and I think one of the things about objectivism which is where i'm. Trying to come at things from it's weird I'm like objectivist in terms of like if it works I'm going to use it and that's good enough for me and also a more metaphysical connection to an everlasting eternal and infinite source that is. Totally the opposite of objective. It's completely subjective. It's like a feeling that it's funny because it's either ah true or not true and so if I am making myself. Believe that it is true and it gives me a good feeling then I just kind of gave myself a little blessing basically and I think that's a lot of what religion is about It's like hey you know what it feels good that there is a wise fatherly figure who's not too hands on. 38:06.49 mikebledsoe Exactly. 38:21.42 Max Shank By the way, not an overbearing parent or father figure all powerful looking out for me. He loves me says so in the book. That's that's going to feel pretty nice I can totally understand what I would feel nice. Are you kidding. 38:33.16 mikebledsoe Yeah, well you know, ah this brings up. Yeah well well I see a huge like a really beneficial place for religion. Um, you know when I look at when I look at you know people that are you know mainstream people. 38:38.37 Max Shank About the boost in morale. 38:47.62 Max Shank Fanatics. Oh. 38:51.95 mikebledsoe Religion is a really great way to get them to behave like if somebody doesn't hasn't been through the questions and the logic and really sat with themselves and have an understanding of like ah of karma basically cause and effect how you know if I do this and I get this result. Most people have no idea that person is going to do really good going to church on Sunday and having the None commandments repeated to them and because the 10 commandments. It's kind of hard hard to argue with that shit like. 39:26.10 Max Shank It's a bit outlandish really I mean no killing or coveting the neighbor's wife give me a break. 39:30.48 mikebledsoe I think there was there was I think the one that don't covet your neighbor's wife is the only one that does not include an action that every the 9 commandments was don't do these things and then the last one was like. 39:47.64 Max Shank Don't even want this. 39:49.67 mikebledsoe Stamp out that desire like it was the it was the only one that was around desire. Everything else was about behavior so which is really really interesting that it that it that it was wrapped like that which I think is also really good advice. Ah you want to be miserable. 39:58.36 Max Shank Um, it's like yeah, ah. 40:07.81 Max Shank Just covet everything You don't have. 40:08.31 mikebledsoe Like it. Yeah I mean just means to have envy you know to be jealous like it's like oh you know that dude's wife is hotter than mine I I think about her all the time talk about suffering you want to make yourself suffer. 40:21.16 Max Shank How about the illusion. How about the illusion like that I mean you bring up a great point could talk about it all day. But I won't I mean look at what we do to fabricate a better illusion shiny sports cars glittery tits. We're doing the whole nine yards just to. We're so hyper audio visual. We're so hypervisual. It's insane and you know that. 40:46.44 mikebledsoe I think 75% of your perception at least seventy five eighty percent on the yeah well the eyes are just an extension of your nervous system. It's just like your nerves have come out and it makes more sense. It makes sense. 40:53.42 Max Shank Um, it's like. 41:00.69 Max Shank Yeah, yeah, no I follow I Follow what you're ah what you're going at um I think it's interesting. A lot of people consume media now with the sound off and it's just visual isn't that interesting. 41:03.82 mikebledsoe Now. 41:10.63 mikebledsoe I Do I I I have everything set up to where I have to like purposely turn the sound on and and I hope if you don't have a caption on your video I'm I'm skipping right over because I don't want to interrupt I don't want to interrupt my music. 41:19.50 Max Shank Um, yeah. 41:24.52 Max Shank Um, oh shit game over that. 41:29.22 mikebledsoe And got my music playing to my phone now I'm going to have some fucking Instagram real barin now get out of here. So I caption everything. Ah. 41:33.86 Max Shank Totally totally totally. But I think that just goes to show that we we are. We're very one-dimensional and very heavily focused on the vision and this whole this whole thing. It's like we're not quite. 41:42.53 mikebledsoe Yeah. 41:52.86 Max Shank Um, full slaves to our primal ah lust and hunger which that's pretty fun. That's one good option but we're also not fully bought in to this enlightened state either. You know? So we're not we're not really ah enjoying the primal ah savageness and we're also not really in the egoless enviousless wrathless smoothness of ah you know, connected communication and communion. With other things and ah creatures in your universe which is your unique perspective. So. It's a but it's a real bummer to be between those 2 is that's like the worst place you don't really get the benefit of either None you know you're. 42:35.65 mikebledsoe Yeah, ah. 42:46.30 mikebledsoe Ah, yeah. 42:49.76 Max Shank Lizard Brain afraid all the time you're not really getting the you know the the lust and the hunger they're full due and you're not on the the wizard mode either sounds awful just bought in the illusion. 42:58.50 mikebledsoe Terrible terrible. So ah, so so there there was this moment I had where I um I really got to have um, an appreciation for religion I was it was ah. 2018 I was in ah Paris France and I went to see Notre ah Notre Dame um and before it burned ah and I got to go I walked in. 43:22.62 Max Shank Any. 43:33.80 Max Shank Um I did too. It was awesome I might have been there in the same year I might have been there at like the same time is fucking weird. We were there on a date. 43:36.17 mikebledsoe So cool. So I walked in I'm looking at oh oh weird. So they add all this these ah these these monk These monks had like these hats. You know you saw like the hats with the Jewels and. 43:50.57 Max Shank Just kidding like. 43:55.44 mikebledsoe And everything and are and I'm in there and I'm looking at the the cathedral from inside and I go and then I went and looked at the outside I was like man there is a lot of symbolism here and I was like this is super psychedelic like yeah, what I'm looking at. 44:08.63 Max Shank Um, lot of fancy hats in religions too. 44:13.71 mikebledsoe What I'm looking at is it looks very mystical and reminds me I remember looking at this one piece and I was like that's a fucking dmt trip right? there I'm gonna tell you right now I've I've been there and I and then I started seeing it everywhere I was like this is. These cathedrals in Europe are so psychedelic and so I'm in Notre domina and I'm like I'm like okay I'm getting a download here. Let's go home. Went back to the apartment I booked a tour. 44:32.94 Max Shank Um. 44:45.59 mikebledsoe For the next day I was like I need I need like a proper tour this me wandering around and by myself not going to cut it and so what do I do I drop acid before the tour because I'm a genius and ah. We signed up for a group tour but we were me and my ex-wife were the only 2 that signed up so we had a private tour while on Assad and we we got to go the guy was like I normally don't tell people about this because if there's catholics ah in the group they get really triggered. 45:06.25 Max Shank Amazing. 45:20.80 mikebledsoe Because there was so much of the symbolism on the church was taken from ah ancient Egypt and and basically every religion up to that point is represented in in Notre Dame um which makes it even more interesting than some of the other cathedrals. Yeah, it's. 45:34.90 Max Shank See I didn't I didn't even know that that's awesome I checked it out but I did not get a tour I Certainly didn't get that. 45:40.33 mikebledsoe Ah, there there is references in the architecture to ah the chakras 7 chakras it's very it to me. It was like very blatant but ah to someone who's. 45:48.49 Max Shank So now. 45:54.34 Max Shank Ah, neat. That's awesome. That's neat. No no, no, that's neat. No, that's really cool. This is neat. 45:59.19 mikebledsoe Ah, he said 8 I was like but ah that is neat. So so i' go inside and I and I get to spend a couple I you know how long I spend because I'm on asset two or three hours with this tour guide and we're just jamming I'm like just pulling all the information out of him and I'm like I'm like well what do you think about this, he goes. 46:13.30 Max Shank A. 46:18.69 mikebledsoe Oh you're one of those I was like yeah man I don't care like like let's really go there So I got to go there with this guy and basically what I got the conclusion I came to is these monks are sitting in the church in a dark room and they're in there just chanting chanting for days. 46:19.83 Max Shank Are in. 46:37.72 mikebledsoe Chanting and chant they're getting into these psychedelic states they're doing it through chanting. Maybe they're drinking some wine and chanting and they're getting into this weird state and maybe there's some mushrooms in the wine who the fuck knows and they get these. They get all this information they get they get to have contact. 46:43.57 Max Shank Yep. 46:56.58 mikebledsoe With the divine this they have this mystical experience that they then get their experience truth in a way that you can't explain to somebody else. But once you have this experience. You go. You know we probably you know. 47:06.12 Max Shank Oh. 47:13.26 mikebledsoe Property rights is a thing and the cat back then the Catholic Church controlled property if you want to buy or sell you know your deed it was held with the Catholic Church and and Notre Damme was ah was it started being built I want to say in 808 or 900 somewhere there and wasn't finished until like well technically still not finished. But. I think it was ah like a none project so it was not a short project. 47:36.19 Max Shank Um, the 151516 sounds right to me fifteen sixteen hundred I can't recall maybe as late as 17 47:43.49 mikebledsoe Well I think they then I think they may have had like a finishing point but then they started up again and depending on who was who was who believed what at the time they would like tear down a statue and put a different statue up and all the shit. Yeah. 47:51.63 Max Shank Rebuilding and building. 47:59.10 Max Shank Funky right? I remember there were some cool statues and like gargoyles and devils on the outside and shut like that there. It was actually the outside was super hardcore I remember looking at that for a long time. There was a lot of angels and demons. 48:01.37 mikebledsoe Um, yeah, it's like like super hardcore. 48:14.38 mikebledsoe And Mary with Mary with a torch surrounded by gargoyles and yeah, it's fucking wild and so um, so I I got thinking about it and I got to appreciate I go all these peasants outside they're giving them gifts because they come out. 48:15.38 Max Shank Devils and freaky shit. Yeah, you know that would. 48:33.28 mikebledsoe After days of chanting go I got the message I had a meeting with god I had this divine mystical experience and you know what Don not don't try to fuck your buddys wife you know, ah and you shouldn't steal shit and you know what I mean like. 48:49.10 Max Shank Um. 48:52.30 mikebledsoe All these rules were created by the church. Um, but they're not they weren't new but like there was other rules like they had you know the church was running shit back then they were really running shit until around the fifteen hundreds and so um, ah. 48:55.35 Max Shank Um, well those aren't new ideas though at that point either. 49:03.78 Max Shank Yeah. 49:11.68 mikebledsoe I Really just got a big appreciation for religion at that point because I go well for me to expect for everybody to have had I've had a lot of mystical experiences. You know that the meeting with God has happened several times where. 49:23.44 Max Shank Um. 49:29.44 mikebledsoe I Go into this really deep state and things become very obvious and the behaviors that follow like oh yeah I should change this I shouldn't shouldn't behave like this anymore like this because I'm at a blindment with this other thing and so as like I'm just making myself miserable. 49:35.35 Max Shank What. 49:47.91 mikebledsoe So when I first had that experience I go everybody should have this experience and then after years of promoting people to have this experience I Realized a ah most people are not willing to have the experience. They're not. They're not even curious about it. It's not interesting to them and then B some people. 49:52.47 Max Shank Um I. 50:02.82 Max Shank And. 50:06.73 mikebledsoe Become curious about it and they probably shouldn't have touched it because they don't they couldn't they they can't handle. There's they don't have enough like some type of mental construct in order to handle the the weight of that experience because you're going from 0 to 60 50:24.37 Max Shank Um. 50:26.10 mikebledsoe And ah and a split second with some of these things. Um, and so. 50:29.42 Max Shank Yeah, it's way faster than chanting. It's like you can achieve kind of a similar experience with a lot of different things like you can get the runners high or you can just ah smoke a blunt or something like that you can chant for three days or you can just drop some acid. 50:41.10 mikebledsoe Totally yeah. 50:47.13 Max Shank And so we have all these shortcuts to get into that state and I think it's a connected and receptive state. It allows you to see past your own illusion I think it it temporarily depending on the dosage right. 51:03.32 mikebledsoe Yep. 51:04.40 Max Shank Temporarily takes away that tight grip on the um ego that you've built essentially as a suit of armor to survive the environment that you live in and we live in an environment where stories matter quite a lot I Mean. Like the the reality of how I am on a day-to-day. Basis is so different than from what you would find if you just searched for me on the internet. You would think that all I do is play Sports lift weights. 51:33.37 mikebledsoe Um, yeah. 51:40.74 Max Shank And dance in my backyard with my shirt off but I call it mobility instead of dancing and that would be That's like the whole thing. That's that's the illusion that's out there. So whatever. Whatever avatar you project out you you use it. Maybe not as armor maybe almost as like a scuba suit to enter the environment of society that we're in so it's natural that you would want to do that. You'd want to have armor plating you'd want to have these ah pretty colors on this avatar. So people really like it and maybe someone will even love you. If Your feathers are are pretty enough and so everything is just reinforcing these ideas but it's still coming from like a lizard brain type of desire and so it's no wonder that people are a little tangled up. Like in like a ah web of self and parents and teachers and fame and shame and blame and all these different things like that's why when you were like oh people are just children I'm like yeah they're like often abused children and abuse is like. It happens in so many different ways. It's like ah probably like 1 of the least popular things to talk about is rape but the only problem with rape is the lack of consent because nearly everybody is on board with sex and a lot of people from both genders like raping. Also. But that's like maybe even another. Ah, that's a different can of worms that I'm not not looking to unpack right now off the cuff because well look. It's um. 53:23.68 mikebledsoe Why'd you even mention it. 53:29.53 Max Shank People have their boundaries crossed in a lot of different ways and the the thing is it's that feeling of having your boundary crossed and so people feel um, abused or diminished or beaten down or taken from in a lot of different ways and so it's like. That idea that ah wherever you get wounded the bone grows back twice as strong like the calcification is like your personality from all these miniature traumas you've had and if someone's. Forcing you to do None thing or another they're still forcing you to do None thing or another and how you can harmonize that into the future is going to determine how you find the world and you know there are different levels of trauma. But if you're not willing to let it go. You are just going to go ah equal and opposite to that force basically right. 54:25.32 mikebledsoe Yeah, yeah, yeah. 54:31.37 Max Shank Ah, yeah, So I'm not Surprised. People are all all twisted up with identity and perception and I know personally I've found a lot of peace through trying to see things as they are. And it's not something that is like on off switch but it can happen really fast all at once. In fact, just for anyone listening. It's kind of an interesting thing in my experience. It's not a linear progress on this sort of. Thinking it All. It's like giant leaps forward and then a little plateau and then a giant leap forward and then a little Plateau I don't know what it's been like for you. But. 55:17.51 mikebledsoe Yeah, it? um well the giant leaps forward or never yeah, they can be difficult. But yeah, it seems like seems like there's this giant leap forward then I got to stabilize the jump right? There's not a. So like oh I jump forward and everything's Great. It's like oh now because in those giant leaps especially if you have a shift in your own identity then everybody in your life. You're about to ah destroy their expectations of you. The stability is gone. 55:37.27 Max Shank But. 55:49.48 Max Shank Well, the Stability's gone right? The stability. 55:54.85 mikebledsoe There's chaos it creates chaos and it creates chaos for your friends and your family because they can count on you to behave like this whether it's a good behavior or not and they're even looking to count on. They're counting on you to behave poorly and then all of a sudden you do something in order to be successful. 56:05.51 Max Shank Right. 56:13.73 mikebledsoe And they may even get mad at you about it. They like like I've I've had people in the past that were like mad that I was successful enough to where I didn't have to run my gym anymore they were like oh you're like leaving. 56:17.74 Max Shank They'll definitely get mad at you about it. A lot of the time. 56:26.48 Max Shank A. 56:30.18 mikebledsoe Things behind you, you're you're changing and you're a different person like and they're mad about it I go Well yeah, that was isn't that the point like what do you think I was doing all this work for to stay the same. 56:34.66 Max Shank Um, yeah, yeah, dude I remember that I remember the one that made me laugh The hardest um I fired this guy who worked for me because he was lying to me. 56:54.19 mikebledsoe Yeah. 56:54.45 Max Shank And if I can't trust someone. It's basically like see you later you know and 1 of the members at my gym texted me and said I can't believe you did this. You're really ruining my happiness. 57:05.62 mikebledsoe Ah, you're in charge of their happiness. All of a sudden. 57:11.00 Max Shank I just thought it was so funny. It was like anything different. This guy's like totally lost it and you know there are two sides to every story right? So there's no point in trying to have like an argument about its rightness or wrongness it. It just is what it is. It's like that Mark Twain quote how his. Taylor was the only reasonable person because he took his measurement new every time instead of measuring him against how he was in the past and dude absolutely like if you quit drinking I think that's ah one that a lot of people relate to you know. 57:34.38 mikebledsoe Um, yeah. 57:45.54 mikebledsoe Oh yeah. 57:48.86 Max Shank Ah, used to be a bit of a party animal or just ah, a different type of party animal and as soon as you stop as soon as you stop doing that They're like what do? what are you doing? You're you're like ditching us. Oh you're too good for us or something I guess like no man like just doing a different thing. 57:51.25 mikebledsoe Yeah I had the same thing quit drinking. Yeah. 58:03.26 mikebledsoe Well it kind of sucks when you stop drinking because I had this experience I remember it was yeah it's like well 20 I remember it was like 2013 and i. 58:12.44 Max Shank That's where our culture has fun for adults. That's like the place. 58:21.61 mikebledsoe I had to actually cut back on drinking a little bit up to that point not completely I started smoking a little bit of weed when I was my and 2011 so I started smoking weed because I didn't like how I was behaving when I was on alcohol I was. Blacking out I was doing and saying stupid shit. Um I was around like my gym members. You know I'd be out at a bar with gym members. The next thing you know like like what what did I say last night I don't even know? Yeah, yeah, yeah, the next day is like. 58:52.55 Max Shank Feeling of up. 58:57.14 mikebledsoe I Just I don't know what I did but I got this feeling. It wasn't good. You know, ah and so I cut back the drink and I I discovered that weed if I smoked a little weed before I went out I would drink way less and then weed would make me way less aggressive. 58:59.53 Max Shank Right. 59:14.18 mikebledsoe So I could still be out I could still be sociable. 59:14.87 Max Shank Um, oh you think Alcohol alcohol is like so crazy when you think about it that we're just like yeah whatever you can have it have as much as you want? whatever. 59:21.30 mikebledsoe Yeah, yeah, yeah, but but I was using the weed to like offset the you know it calm me down and and then I would just drink less and because I was already kind of feeling it if I drink too much while being high that ah that. Wasn't fun I would I would hit it. 59:40.75 Max Shank But it sounds like yeah I mean it sounds like you got to that point where you were ah using your intuition and getting curious about it instead of just writing the momentum of like oh it's Friday let's all get drunk because that's just what we do and I think a lot of folks. 59:52.70 mikebledsoe Yeah now. 01:00:00.12 Max Shank Maybe don't even like it that much. They just want to be liked so they'll do the thing that gets people to like them. You know, drinking can be a competition that you can win speaking of life as a game. 01:00:04.36 mikebledsoe Well, it's. 01:00:12.87 Max Shank As soon as I figured that out I was like hey I bet I could poison myself twice as fast as you motherfucker and that everyone's like yeah you did it. 01:00:19.94 mikebledsoe Yeah, yeah, if you ever win a drink game. It doesn't It's never as cool as you think it's gonna be and a lot of people need that liquid courage. You know like it's the only way they can. It's like ah well it's it's it's well they have to like D It's like. 01:00:34.52 Max Shank Be sexual. It's the only way they can like let their guard down. 01:00:39.39 mikebledsoe It detaches them from themselves enough to where they can just kind of let loose. But anyways I digress I um so in 2013 I started eating way more psychedelic mushrooms and then after my None big psychedelic mushroom experience. 01:00:44.50 Max Shank Um, yeah. 01:00:56.66 mikebledsoe I cut out alcohol a hundred percent I 01:01:00.40 Max Shank Dude, we should do a series of shows on a different substance every week guys. We're gonna start it. Nice and simple coffee week. One is coffee nice and simple week two. We bring out a little booze week 3 weed week 4 01:01:03.90 mikebledsoe Ah, it's not the None time I've heard this pitch. 01:01:12.40 mikebledsoe I want to do it now I want to do it's a lead magnet. It's a lead magnet. We'll do 10 shows on 10 different substances and there's ah the lead magnet is that you can um you have to figure out which substance we were on. It's a mystery. 01:01:17.14 Max Shank Okay, we're going to go in Spain. 01:01:31.10 mikebledsoe During the show and if you can match it up successfully you get a prize. Yeah, you have to like you know label it. There's gonna be 10 shows 10 substances definitely social security number. Um yeah I think that's a great idea. So. 01:01:32.90 Max Shank Um, and you only get None guess. You got to enter your social security number. 01:01:49.87 mikebledsoe Started eating mushrooms and I cut out alcohol completely and I was the guy you know I owned the gym I was I had a a house with a big backyard at a pool and you know I I bought the house because it was a great place to entertain guests. So I'm throwing these parties I got a keg in the backyard like we're doing everything. 01:01:52.25 Max Shank A. 01:02:08.74 mikebledsoe I'm not drinking and it's not 1 those things where I'm like I'm trying not to drink is just like I really just don't give a fuck about having a drink at all like someone can hand me a beer and it's like 0 desire. Yeah. 01:02:09.43 Max Shank Yeah. 01:02:20.10 Max Shank But well you got something better something that that suits you better. That's what it's about right? It's like let's get intuitive about the different medicines that we're applying. 01:02:28.91 mikebledsoe Yeah, and so I just remember this one afternoon I've got a bunch of people in my house were standing in a circle. Everyone's got a red solo cup in their hand I'm drinking water and I'm happy as a clam. And I probably smoked a little bit of weed. Um, but I kept on trying to have conversations that had way more depth than what I would have when I was on alcohol and I just remember people looking at me weird I Remember people getting uncomfortable and walking away and it was. 01:02:54.51 Max Shank Or you can. 01:03:06.10 mikebledsoe It was all of a sudden there was this barrier between me and the people who I had been getting drunk with for years and having a good time with and when I look back and I go oh I just wasn't meeting their expectation of who they believe Mike Bletzo to be. They didn't know what to do with me and in fact. 01:03:20.41 Max Shank Inhale. 01:03:23.72 mikebledsoe Probably didn't weren't that interested in talking to me because they were wanting to talk to a guy that was more like who I was behaving like and so. 01:03:31.56 Max Shank And I mean your cells are all changing except for like neurons basically throughout your whole life. They're they're dividing and dying and dividing and dying. They're going through this process of death and rebirth and so. 01:03:38.33 mikebledsoe Yeah. 01:03:50.75 Max Shank If most of your cells are different seven years later wouldn't like you also be quite different seven years later and the fact of the matter is your brain and the pathways in your brain can change way way faster. 01:03:57.28 mikebledsoe Absolutely. 01:04:10.50 mikebledsoe Well yeah, the first was it in and exercise sci

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importance of hemp and how to accept the message of me what did you can you gather out of that amine Christmas we met at first two years ago yeah so my my initial meeting of Christmas two years ago that's we told the story before will repel your facts right and I walked by the lexical booth and another salesperson other than marketing person Christine Thiel grab me and the thing I remember most about that is Dave Christine and Chris all super tall like this is a really tall child apparently hip will make you taller I know you call me someone will be involved with that company so we could do some real basketball or something you know join the election all basketball team what you honestly if you're in listening to get your project today if you've ever wondered about hey look at him is new to me and I'm not really sure what to think that's that's okay today's episode is really kind incredible as Chris can walk through what it's like to to not just look at Hampton say minutes taboo that's taboo it's okay so many people started there and he's got a lot of experience in helping people understand the benefits behind him and what he can do to change their lives for what I love about this is that he comes from these industries are so regulated and she had to transform that into an industry that is so misunderstood you know when you look at that you look at his bio he only looks on website it says it is skilled in helping people and companies overcome their psychological creative and strategic barriers so that they can achieve the professional personal and creative goals so more than just be the chief marketing officer this guys can be my life coach break through all those barriers yet when Ken and Chris Chris's got a lot of a lot of expense he actually went to theological theology school in not in California but were to talk about that for sure yes that means because just think about the transition nearly everything he's gone through in and of course and he's either great guy can't wait from to join the show hit the bottom of the hour course that they were have KPD KB MD's corner where basically Dr. Brown will die do like he's been doing the last seven shows in address some recent research topics and get tiny previews about what to talk about your two minutes yeah so what we always like to do is try to have a bootable format here so everyone knows what to get it into the show so we know we have a fantastic guest I also want to talk about some recent science it's out there so we have forcefully graduate student that helps us out and she sent a really cool article about ALS or Lou Gehrig's disease the same disease that killed Stephen Hawking right I have a very personal tide of this because when my good friends Dr. Russell Veronica in San Antonio a gastroenterologist that I've trained with and with medical school with his father unfortunately passed away of this so I saw this article which to my knowledge the first one that actually looks at ALS and CBD ties in perfectly because we have Christmas song near chief marketing officer now we can't make disease claims what we can say is look it may help some of these different diseases where there really is no treatment and this is a really cool study that I wanted didn't and it's also even said that because today shows can be so incredible and that the way we learn how to balance real information and what we can legally say as a marketing person and then what the consumer can do with both of these angles to kind of piece these puzzles together much like the episode we had last time in stem cell oh yeah you know this fascinating cool stuff you like why don't more people know about this will Chris has to deal with that every day is like no we can say this we can't say this oh my goodness yes is be fantastic if we did this but we have to do it this way because his background I think is a perfect background coming from the super regulated industry to an area that is so gray that you really 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the labeling says so NSF certified for sport is the same thing that Richard dietitians there with MLB NFL NCAA Olympics Olympics they look for that little mark to make certain that when they recommend a supplement or an over-the-counter supplement or aid to their athletes that it's on there so they know that it's a it's a clean product and John Teal features that endorsement that's also because a lot of companies don't have that we pay to play for that eventually I think that what we should have is a KB MD endorsement over here was just means that we like the product to say absolutely right some quick follow-up from from my last week show one of the coolest things as people began to take in Dr. Wade McCann as if he didn't check out episode seven go back and listen last week if you have any questions about stem cells the future stem cells what it's like to market stem cells in this FDA over regulating environment even know you have truth in your hands go back and listen episode seven but once Wade McKenna finished his his episode all week we received email I even got texts stem cells are good for hair growth stem cells can actually help me with my sciatica that I've been dealing with for a few years it's amazing what people don't know about stem cells and then how many people said I thought whenever I used quote unquote cord blood that I was using stem cells and it turns out that you're just not so anyway last week's feedback to getting feedback from last week I got a ton of feedback I actually got a ton of feedback people were I got a lot of calls people wanted to go I think a lot of people actually call me how to actually get into Dr. Wade McKenna's practice of which I think is also because when we have some real like that they can make it make a difference I mean when I sit there and think about this we are completely under utilizing everybody with analysts on the show so far photo bio modulation stem cells once you get into the science you like wow the site speaks for itself much like CBD yes science much like outrun to the science hold its own yeah and that's a cool sinks within a marketing gimmick it's none of this and that's what Chris is going talk about how do you how to stay above how do you stay above the bar where everybody else is trying to play a marketing game and usually want to get out there and help people that's remarkable whenever you look back and you does mention it photo by modulation with James Carroll and talking about stem cells last week with the Dr. McKennitt the parallels that were running here with the CBD industry or hemp industry and what the FDA basically is doing because the FDA is it it it playing all three of those we got truth and results so true and you just can't cannot see it's crazy but anyhow if and you can always go back and check any of our previous episodes you can always go to iTunes and search for gut check project so be sure to subscribe and share with the print so speaking of share with a 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please iTunes you to YouTube you can also do the gut check project channel you can subscribe and share there as well that we are always here in the Sony studio you can always listen live it spoony.com so smutty.com iTunes get check project YouTube gadget project thank you so much subscribe and share so Dr. Brown let's head into KPMG corner what's on the corner today well let's talk a little bit about some personal stuff start this is kind of interesting I'm a little bit embarrassed about this what you know how when sometimes it's too close to you and you don't know what's going on well my mom unfortunately she fell hurt her shoulder about three months ago and she's been rehabbing Kent and I was just talking to her and I just went oh my gosh did I not send you CBD that are not and she owes no I don't know you know I tried something like that some hemp oil what she tried screws that endure anything else like okay let me send you something so I sent her some bottles with some vitamin D and sufficient oil because I believe in using these fatty acids to really help brain information in such large Dr. couple days ago and she was post be doing three more months of rehab and she goes okay and it's so exciting I don't have to go to rehab anymore my shoulder feels great it actually back to normal this is after you sent everything this is after center about two weeks of using the CBD and so she's Artie on trunk Hill always has been for quite a while but so after sending the CBD and now embarrassed because I'm like oh my gosh my own mom herself and that would be something owed to the patient immediately you just forget when it's too close and then my sister who's actually black belt in aikido and she's always been yourself open to students rose to banged up my mom gave her a bottle and she just texted me this morning said oh my gosh that works so well the key to this Morgan talk about this with Chris that there are differences in different types of CBD and what is out there how you market so my personal story is sorry mama should be given to to three months ago just was too close to it we got so much stuff going on and you know fortunately better late than never she's doing great yeah I know that's a it's of these brothers, interesting so you said in another we can touch on Chris but when James was on James Carroll from outdoor laser he talked about imitators right and then last week with the with Dr. Wade mechanically talked about imitators or people that don't administer stem cells appropriately or may not actually even be utilizing stem cells but saying that they are or putting in chemicals that will destroy destroy those that are not probably not to their own fault I just don't know enough about it because the reality is we talked about this is CBD industry and I'm I tell my patients this I said I would get into a loop of the science would explain a little bit we have this new brochure that explains a little bit and we get into the fact of what your end or cannabinoid system is how it links the nervous system and the immune system put you back in balance that is so simplistic because the reality is were going to see a field of medicine called Endo Kanab analogy and your Genesee specialist called Endo Canavan allergist's share I'm convinced of it sure any of you have a hepatology ST have the endocrinologists there is actually no reason why you would have an Indo Campanella just as we begin to learn more that CBD absolutely totally agree right it's about you anything going on in the personal life personal life at the boys I mean honestly the boys are doing great. During off-season basketball who ended up I know that seems like add the theme but that's that's really what they're into but I did go shoot with my youngest earlier this week and I learned that dad dad is the worst basketball player in the household now Matt can drain from all points of the court I'm just I'm no match anymore there faster than I am and now that he's basically 6 foot tall and 15 and gauges about 61 now in 1730 I just not much I can do with with either one of them so very much dominate brain I headed down to Kaleo FX this week though oh that's right you want one of my favorite conferences to be great conference it's a chemist think that immediate which is so busy just to go this week will unfortunately I have to go to Newark New Jersey and film a national commercial for archer until Roger entails time to take out her until the next level were to be doing some national commercial so I would love it really affects would love to be helping out at the election all booth pate BMD CBD booth trash and talk about trying to learn the on the entourage effect without an CBD but I don't fly up to New York in the true commercial which I'm a little bit nervous about the Wilson estate bowing on the head Keith Michelle Noris tune into your commercial as soon as it airs big shot today and they are the one to put on file with X they do a great job if you never been that appealing effects in Austin Texas it is what's your time you going to be introduced to a bunch of different things that could probably change her health and that's how we found CBD out and say I'm very partial to pill effects last year I give a talk and one over really well talked a lot of people had to be able to get their books it was really exciting you just it just fun to see a like-minded community I did the mojo 50 show this morning we're talking about sugar and the paler community does not really eat M&Ms those guys do M&M tasting Delphi lot M&Ms of failure effect listen if you have M&Ms you to balance it out with much until Fisher 100% totally so yeah you just have a great time hello effects I will make you feel better about you not been know to beat your sons because the only person that can warm Lucas up is my daughter Carla because both my wife and I are incapable of even even hit the ball back against those guys don't know probably know why it's super humiliating I I feel memo Mike is it embarrassing that the youngest person in the family is the only person I can warm Osama before matches and vice versa they want each other up it's really cool that's get down so I'd have any hits on the on the corner before Chris joins us will I do want to bring up one thing here I will bring up an article I was try to bring up one article to talk about just now woman talk about marketing Christmas songs it's about marketing a lot of people look at the big deal I want to tell everyone about this and so on I really like to look at disease specific states And the article that we can achieve that in the beginning here is an article related to the meta-analysis was published in the Journal of neurochemistry here this year just couple months ago and what it looked at is it did a meta-analysis which is a compilation of studies usually meta-analysis I have in the scientific literature are considered to be more robust picture taking a lot of studies putting them together and this is looking at ALS known as anti-atrophic lateral sclerosis Lou Gehrig's disease is a devastating disease and as I had mentioned earlier it actually took the life of my good friend Dr. Russ of Ron Ike whose guesser Alderson San Antonio and we actually saw his dad his father correct we actually saw this progressive disease and that's the deal about ALS eight what it does is if you're unaware of it I find it to be one of the most devastating diseases out there there's a book called Tuesdays with Maury that I read back many years ago they commit a movie about it also censures about the progress the progression of ALS and somebody that where there is a caregiver helping them out and you get a feeling about how it just slowly chips away and what it does this damages the nerves that control muscles so over time all of your muscles weaken to the point where they cannot contract eventually hitting the diaphragm so you can't read you lose the ability to speak because you can't control your tongue you lose the ability fine motor movement changes first because the small muscles go and you can't button things and it is just a debilitating but you keep your mind eventually you have some mind changes and they don't really understand why it is they believe there's a small genetic component but really what it is it's an excitatory issue with the nerves releasing too many of certain chemicals that eventually do not allow the do not allow the muscle to contract on the words and try to sting like muscle doesn't work so this was quite a while ago I've been in practice for 17 years Russ and I with both med school and fellowship together it was during residency so were talking 27 years ago 25 years ago I do know anything about CBD fat I know they must be in touch two years ago so this study came out red actually showed that they looked at mice and they looked at their ability to travel distance they looked at their grip strength that she put them through some sort of little American ninja course where they had them hang upside down on the net so like a Jacob's ladder, it was it was it was really it was fascinating that I made a run a wheel what they did is they they actually looked at those that had that were given CBD and those that were the control group and what they showed across the board in this meta-analysis is that those mice I'm sorry let me preface that the mice were genetically predisposed to have ALS so they all had a lot okay okay and what they did is that they showed that the mice that were on CBD could actually run further the mice could cling long-running that they actually increase the grip strength running real activity and they had improved survival and they did not have weight loss when they looked at all the studies something stood out to me that was very interesting they were all given CBD one particular study that they look that used a Madrigal inhibitor now what Maggio is is that's the enzyme that breaks down to AG one of your Dodgers and of cannabinoids in one of these days were to get into the deep science about the inner cannabinoid system gets all complex that's a drug it's in study and it's called KM L 29 so it's fascinating that the FDA's over here try to regulate right and in the background you've got drug companies try to develop drugs to manipulate the system if they can figure out that's awesome but is really interesting because the macro inhibitor was not as good as the traditional CBD and so what they found is that CD1 and CB to agonists in other words CBD significantly delayed the decline of motor function when compared to the control group and they showed a consistent 12 to 25 days longer of normal motor function in the mouse world what you doing is really improving that so right now there's no treatment for this they've got a couple drugs available one called real you tech and one called red Dick Reddick Have Not Even Sure That That Was around When Ross's Dad Was Sick They Said That It Could Potentially Slow down the Progression by a Month or Two While the Superexpensive Month or Two That's It I Member at the Time When We Went outside and Rushes Flying All over the Country Thing Is That Everywhere There Were Trying Everything They're Looking at Using Creatine and Different Things like That so Here We Have This Deal Where We've Got Eight Now You Can't Just Translate Mouse Models to Humans But It's Really One of the First Step in Trying to Figure Some Stuff out My Deal Is That We Know That CBD Helps in Many Different Ways and I'm Not Saying That This Is a Disease Claim I'm Not Saying That This Is Functioning and Will Help but It Certainly Can't Hurt and Might Help Right so When You Have a Very Specific Disease Group like ALS to Desperate Group with No Significant Treatment I Think It's Fascinating That These Guys Went to the Trouble of Putting Together This Mouse Data to Actually Try and Figure This out so Here We Have Grip Strength Upside down Running All of It Which Means That There Is Some Potential That This Could Actually Help This Very Devastating Disease and Is Very Small Group of People Because It's Rare but When It Does Affect You It Affects Everybody It May Affect One Person so the Number the Thing We'll Talk about Is When We Say Disease Oh This Is the Incidence of This Disease This Is the Prevalence of This Disease As Somebody Who Lost My Dad at a Young Age It Affects More Than Just the Person That Dies Share the Prevalence or the Incidence of the Disease Affects Everyone Around Them Right so I Think That If We Can Help Those People with ALS If You Know Anybody with ALS or Lou Gehrig's Disease This Is Something That May Be Showmen We Can Certainly Forward This Article to Anybody That Would like to so Include Any of the Studies That Utilize a Mouse AMI All All of the Drugs They Began and and and Started There to Try to Find out If This Is a Workable Model and Unfortunately with Today's Highly Regulated Environment He Can't Just Keep Going Forward but Were Trying to Help People Connect the Dots This That CBD Is Safe to Take and You Shouldn't Have Any Serious Side Effects Certainly by Consuming CBD It Just so Happens That in This Mouse Model We Saw These Improvements Draw from the Conclusions What You Will But This Is What I've Seen and I Mean I Think That Were Hinting In the in the Correct Direction I Just Think That It's You Know This Is Work Were Offering Hope Church When Scientists like This Do This You Just Offer Little Bit of Hope And It Is a Devastating Disease and We Just Want to See People and Just Offer Them Something an Alternative Right And If They Can Even If They Feel a Bit Better Well We Got 20 Seconds Left Here in Just a Moment We Are Going to Be Joined by Chris Who Song the Vice President of Marketing Communications Analytics and off a Hemp Industry Marketing Expert Is Going to Be Incredibly Silly Very Exciting and Super Excited Let's Do the Seal Here in about Two Minutes Dr. Kim Brown Here a Host of Check Project with Lycos Eric Rieger Eric Regency and Mojo Guys over There and Overhears Really Talk about Our 20 over Bloating I've Seen in My Practice That I'm Trying to Is a Whole Lot More Than Just a Floating Product Yes It Does a Whole Lot More Than Just Exploding Because of the Polyphenols That You Find Keen on Trying to Get Your Exactly Right the Polyphenols Are Those Molecules That We Find in the Mediterranean Diet It Makes Vegetables and Fruit Very Colorful What Are Some of the Things These Polyphenols Do Eric These Polyphenols Can Actually Stop and Nation Help You Have More Energy Thinking Have You Antiaging and Polyphenols Are Great Athletes It Sounds like It's Your Health: More People Than Just Loading Tell Me How It Is Taking out Front If You Want to Go so 2002 Capsules Three Times A Day Facing Me with You Aren't Bloated and Just Want to Polyphenol Intake Everyday Three Chances of a War for You to Love My Tummy.com/Are You Tired of High Cable TV Rates Sign up for Dish Today and Get a $500 Bonus Offer While Supplies Last Loss Locking Your Price for Two Years Guaranteed Call American – Your Dish Authorized Retailer Now 800-570-6630 800-570-6630 – 800-570-6630 Authors Required Critical Negation 24 Month Commitment Early Termination Fee Any Automakers Friction Supply Call for It Looks like You're Losing I Am I Losing Weight I Am Losing My Lost about 10 Pounds How Are You Doing It Funny Name but I Done It with Review Zone RAD Use Zone.com and the Stuff Works It's Unique It and All That the Molecule Bissonnette Found in That I Can Tell You Is It It so It Makes You Feel Full and He Keeps Your Mind Off of Wanting to Overeat and Also Boost Your Metabolism If You're Done and More Guy Try It Today It's Gonna Work for You like His Work for Brad and Countless Other People Read You Zone.com Are IDUs Zone.com Okay Welcome Back to the Second Half Hour Episode Eight of the Gut Check Project I Married Grigor Joined by Your Host Dr. Kent Brown and Now We Have the Vice President of Marketing Communications at Alexa and All Mr. Chrissy Song Chris Welcome to the Show Thanks for Having Me Absolutely Absolutely Better Radio Voice Than You and I Both Well Yeah Well You Guys Have a Better Face for One of the First Things He Chris Asked Where He Sat down and Said Do You Guys Do One Headphone or Two and Then Can Analogize That We Do We Do to Because We Didn't Know How to Do That so Anyhow I Just a Quick Reset Thank You for Joining the Show Thank You Again for Having Me Actually Catch a Project Is Brought to You by Arch on Teal As Well As KB MD CBD You Can findkbmdcbd@kbmdhealth.com and it just so happens that Chris may happen to know a little bit about KB MD CBD As Well Please Think Our Dialects and the Power Power by Licks and All so Chris You We Are Now in Dallas That's Where Our Studio Is Siam in Dallas Here with You Guys Thanks for Having Me I Grew up in Plano Just down the Road Just I Know That That's Also That's Where I Live Right Now Sam Right on Teakwood Okay All Right in the Middle Was Back When There Was Still Some Farmland in That Region Roads That Were Definitely Not Paved Back That Well While You Have Made Your Journey All the Way to Being a Market Expert but It Was You Got Zero Stress Remember I Was Told about Russ and His Dad yet Will He's Just Call Me Right Here Is Try to Call Him to Let Me Describe a Little Bit about about His Experience Home on Such a Crazy Timing to Rent a Van Fantastic What Will Look at That Set up Well in the Meantime While Were Getting the Call Set up Which This Be Our First Time We've Ever Had Live Taller All for You Chris That's Awesome Though Our Weight Much to Say Go Wildcats for Plano West Guy While Nice Nice Sticky Big Absolutely so from Plano You Are You Hello When You Plan to Graduate High School There No so I Was Born in the Fort Stockton Texas Home Right Now Where Judge Judge Roy Bean the Hanging Judge a Hanging Judge Meant to Write Also the Largest Groundhog Population in Texas That at the Time Did I Know That I Seconds Probably Pretty Pretty Have Been Doing down There but No I Moved to All over Texas with My Dad Is an Engineer for General Electric Okay so We Were All over the Place and Then Moved to California Right and I Graduated College out There and Jumped around All Sorts of Places since Then Is Your Degree in Theology Theology Yeah That's Right This Is Great for What I'm Doing Preaching about Hemp and CBD What May Think That I in All Honesty When You Find That There Is Actually Quite a Bit of Similarity and There's Going to Be A Lot of Congruent Messaging Well There There Is A Lot Of Congruent Messaging and and We Can Get Super Deep on It If You'd like but Overall Community, Theology or CVD Will Get the Loan Both of Them Get Real Deep on Both but That Because I Think Are Highly Connected I Think One of Them I Don't Know How Far You Want to Get into This Right Now but CBD Itself I Think It's Is One of the Main Things in the Unit Can Have Annoyed Systems and Allows All That Better Empathy Sure Which Is What Is Causing so Much Disregard and Disconnection in Our Society Right Now Right and If We Can All Take a Significant Amount of Quality CB and Improve Our Ability For Our Brain to Connect with People and and Not Have Social Anxiety And Connect to People Then Were Going to Actually Build Improve Our Culture and and Not Not Have All These Great Divides so I Would Assume That Probably Whenever You Are Studying Theology That That May Not Have Been Your Attitude Towards CBD or Hemp Products or That Was Even on Your Radar Though My Gosh Cannabis in CBD and Hemp Was Bad Sure You Know the Devils We Write Back Then and That It's Definitely Not Something That I Supported I Told My Kids Said No Don't Do Dumb Stuff Listen to Dad and Don't Do Drugs and Cannabis Was Definitely One of Those Things and I Had to Change My Tune Much Later in Life and My Mom Actually Group Cannabis and Marijuana While She Was Raising Us in Texas and Oklahoma and Back What Was Illegal She Was like One of the Original Member That Was – She Is Original OGE That so and You Know I I Being the Rebellious Teenager Decide I'm to Put Our Three-Piece Suit and Go Learn Religion and You Look down from My Port Perch on People and Obviously I Had to Humble Myself and Admit Mom Was Right the Whole Time That Is so Fascinating I Don't Want to Break the Story Whatsoever but I Think We Have Our First Because This Is Going All Dr. Russell Running San Antonio He Is Patched in And Russ Can Hear Us Morning Man This Is Also My Was That Obvious He Heard the Show This Morning Was Talk about You and Your Dad I Appreciate That That Means A Lot It Does so Russ Whenever You Found out That Your Dad Had ALS When When You Look at the Options That Were on the Table What and in You Being Physician What Did You Think of the Landscape and What Did You Think the Options Would Be For Him and Then Now Looking Back to What What Cans Talking about in Terms of CBD and ALS What I Mean I Lost My Dad You've Lost Your Dad Can Lost His Dad and You Know It's It's No Fun for Anyone Any Always Wish That You Had the Experiences of Technology Later What What Do You Wish You Could Take Back to in Time from What We Learn Now She Mentioned That My Dad Started Get Sick with ALS Back When Can Our Medical School Diseases Just Initiated This Really Is and They're Just Just Seated Man Who Was Pillar of Strength and It Just Wait, Wait Enough and Where They Couldn't Hold a Hammer He Could Climb a Ladder and the Most Devastating Part of That for Us Was When He Studied the Single Ball Ballparks in Ankeny and Carry on a Conversation and Eat Well Anymore Back Then There Was Nothing for Writers One of Those Diseases like Pancreatic Cancer You Got It Sorry I Just Not Then We Can Do and Then I Moved down Here to San Antonio Started Launching Residency and Fellowship and Hooked up with Carding Jackson Was a Neurologist down Here Amazing Woman Who Runs a Big ALS Clinic Here in South Texas and I Started Flying My Dad down Twice a Year and She'd See Him in an Even In Her Clinic It Was the Experimental Things of This Kind of False Hope Was Some Anti-Inflammatories There Wasn't Anything That Worked and There Are Days When It Looked like It May Be a Little Stronger and Days When He Wouldn't Now 15 Years Looking Back You Know That He's Been Gone There's Been so Much Advancement in so Many of These Neurologic Diseases and It's These Natural Types of Things That Seem to Keep Coming up As Potential Cures for This and Have Even Had an Opportunity to Have Him Try Something like This Back Then I Did My Right Arm for Combat and I Would Believe That You Don't Get Back That's I Think When You Talk about Suitable Were What Is Referring to Is the Ability to Swallow the Ability to Form Wet so I Remember When Your Dad Would Come Visit and We Would All Go to Your We Would Gather His Residence Would Go to the Pool And She Would Mumble Words That Only a Wife of 30 Years Could Understand and She Would Translate so He Was Still Completely with It Couldn't Communicate but That Kinda Shows Also the Bond That Husband and Wife Can Have Watching Your Mom Be Able to Understand What Your Dad Was Trying to Say Was Very Touching to All of Us In Talking with Him and That's the Part He Hated the Most You Got Your French Don't You Go out Yes and Cocktails Have a Dinner You Care Phone Conversation When You're like That Friends Don't Want to Hang out with You Anymore Because It's Hard and Embarrassing to to Say I Don't Know What You're Saying so There Were Times When My Dad Loved to Drink Beer I like to Drink Beer I Were Small-Town Nebraska I Would Grow up up There so When He Got to That Point in His Disease And He We Had the Decision to Finally A Peg Tube Feeding Put Two But into His Stomach to Swallow Much Anymore When You Come down Here and I Cannot Would Sit around and We Drink Beer and Dad Would Set Some up in Achieving Stringent Squared Together and It Was Awesome and and One of the Greatest Things I Remember Doing with My Dad Back and When He Got to Where He Couldn't Talk Was I Flew up and Picked Him up and Took Him up to Minnesota Went Fishing and Camping for Weekend We Sat around the Campfire We Just Drank until I Can Really Talk Either Loved It but That's What That Disease Did Nothing We Tried Were I Think That What Were Seeing Now with This Is That We Can Talk on the Mode of How Potentially the End of Cannabinoid System Works in These Neurotransmitters No Rust We Have Christmas Song on the Show Today Is the Marketing Director of Licks and All and He Was Just Tell yet He Was Talking about How His Mom Actually Was The Original OG Is Raising Her She Was Growing Marijuana and He Went to Theology School, Rebelled The Opposite Way like If You Are a Pastor You Really Grow Weed If You're Growing We Bellied Theology School You Find out You Know What You Go Back to the Things Parents. It Worked and It Made Sense Mom Was Right I Long Yeah Yeah I Mean I Joke That All the Time. I Grew up My Dad Was Yellow Country Music and Bud Light Not Solid to Rock 'n' Roll and Drink Out Of Date Now 50 and I Listen to Country Music Drink Bud Light Back Here at That Time That Often Did That Because You Find Those Things Were We Did Know Hey Rossiter – Neurology Practice Are You Incorporating Type of Natural Alternative Anything like That Big and Real High Population of People That Are Educated on the Younger Patient Population That I Have an Initial Internet Savvy and A Lot Of Them Come to Me Already Knowing A Lot about These Things and Having Read A Lot about These Things It's All out There When You Look Which Having Awesome so I Do I Have Acrobatic Doctors That I Work with I Have A Lot Of Patients on CD Oils Not Just for Things like This That Were Talking about but My Miles to Christ in Crohn's Patients with Chronic Nausea Patients My Chronic Pain Patients like Everything It Works for Some and It Does Percent Doesn't. Well I Want to See How It Was with What You Can Find Is That and What I Found Is That Not All CBD Is Created Equal And so with Some Things and so We Have Chris on Right Here and That I I'm Very I Think I Have a Similar Mantra Have A Lot Of Patience to Come into Being There Already Though I'd Artie Tried to Be like My Mom Tried Hemp Oil Which Probably Was Hemp Seed Oil Now That I Think about It in the Will and so It's like All Things You Know Not All Seabees Created Equal That's Working to Get into Today for the Rest of the Show Talk about This How Do You Market That How You Get the Word out That Just Because You Tried This Blanket Term CBD You Know You Gotta Really Make Sure That They Got a Certificate of Analysis and All That so I Want to Do If You Had Patients and It Didn't Work on Listing the Rest of the Show Because It May Be That the Power Dialects All Brand Is What You Really Need That's Exactly What We Need to Hear Some I'm Glad You Get Thanks for Involving Me and Bring Back 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dad included nice if you haven't done it don't knock it did you try it because I'm going back that fell awesome and now I mean table I got really ticklish feet but I didn't know something learned about myself is that my left foot is more ticklish than my right because as they began to exfoliate the bottom of my foot especially the left side I was crying from laughing so hard as I got in my mouth and of course the other woman doing is looking up and laughing again with everyone else as they exchanged their own jokes in another language I'd alsojust like Spanish and did it at my expense was completely worth it and I will deftly be back so I almost got a pedicure once I know standing out front and I looked at my feet and it remind me of the scene from dumb and dumber with a grinder to toenails a wireless want to do that to anybody to put the clause back in the shoe keep on walking now is he always worried he wanted done it when I reveal like a Frito toenail or anything else like that but I think I walked away as best we can be that had since probably I was a baby's kids really good pedicure now don't even have to ask what you been up to because you and I rush to hang out we were this last weekend he and Emily were business makes a little bit of pleasure yeah and that was in the Utah powder mountain that was awesome incredible skiing lots of powder fantastic so much snow for late March he was beautiful is a great place to go and visit not crowded either now our ski experiences were little bit differently where they were loaded and so to put it in context Eric was like Kelly dropping and taking these tractors up and I actually had escorted down the mountain by two wonderful people Lindsay Vaughn and Susie Chapstick but it was Juliet and Karen are awesome so I survive it was a big thing didn't break anything didn't do anything but the our expenses were totally different you came back just on my couch that was incredible backcountry all powder and I was like oh yeah my little different I had two women sort of guiding me down the mountain the whole way so there's no shame in effect I'll even say whenever you but whenever we yeah got into our skis the first day you had planned on even making a few runs together it was snowing so hard I stopped to buckle up my helmet is safe and I looked up and Ken and the other four people that I was skiing with were gone they probably want you probably want 20 feet away from me but it was a complete wideout for the first what our we skied oh no I Don't I ended up staying in that area and like true why don't I lost everybody like it was you couldn't see your hand in front of you who not only did I not been skiing over 10 years that's not the way to start now and shout out to Blake Kingsbury for finding me he looked like a yeti lost in a snowstorm and that basically was my beacon on the way down I had no idea how to get down but dad know that was that was a great time up it to powder mountain if you like skiing snow skiing deep powder skiing you take yourself a big powder mountain we move on here a little bit to basically the news because yesterday while we were working at the Indocin or you ran up to me you said look at this study this is a little bit more in terms of what we've been talking about bore catalysts and what causes cancer I will let you take it over from there because it's pretty pretty incredible piece but thought it was so it was just published a photo so appropriate to have Mark on the show were duly talking about cancer and surviving cancer well in this just recently published in the Journal of science this month they did a study with a looked at how high fructose corn syrup actually enhances colon cancer in mice so what they did is they took the equivalent of one soda a day and they gave the mice that amount of fructose corn syrup the issue is that they had genetically engineered these mice so that they would get polyps and cancer sure which is funny because you wonder like your to be genetically engineered you never think that your to get that like I'm genetically engineered to be faster genetically engineered bigger stronger than one poor mouse is like on genetically engineered to get cancer and that's how they end up looking at these different studies so what they did as they showed that by giving the high fructose corn syrup dramatically raise the amount of polyps and cancer over 80 times the mice that were not given high fructose corn so this is with an equivalent of one soda one soda a day so it's absolutely incredible because I love your member but a year ago study came out where was looking at how the rate of colon cancer millennial's has been going to share we did a video on that on YouTube or Ricardo was we did the interpretive jujitsu and what it showed is it dealt with the millennial's were getting a higher rate of colon cancer because of obesity they should with these mice they did not become obese they did not develop metabolic syndrome it's strictly due to the fructose and the sugar that they were consumed then they were able to actually show that I take it was fructose the tumor cells love it so much that they could put a radioisotope and they could show that it just got sucked up it turns on certain genes that allows the tumor to go undetected absolutely fascinating because the fructose and that the high fructose corn syrup they believe could be very similar to others like table sugar bottom line is tumors love sugar and this is the first study that's been done were really actually look at that and it's actually fascinated Mileage Is about to Come to Clear My Throat What This Actually Shows Is Now They're Looking at How to Actually Adapt Fasting Plus Ketogenic Diet When You Have Two More Surprises If You Can Give Him Sugar That's Just Going to Absolutely Feed It like Crazy so Fascinating Study Just One Soda a Day Can Do This Just Write down A Few Things Here Because You Said A Lot Of Impressive Information so If We Were to Backtrack and We Can Take Away That Tumor Cells Love Sugar and Live They Love Circulating Glucose That's Going to Be Their Main Desired Use for Energy and That's How They Grow They Don't Have Energy They Can't Grow Something Else That You Said and There Was Was Really Captivating to Me and That Is They Were Able to Take the High Fructose Corn Syrup after Consumed and Basically Activate A Process Where the Body Could Not Detect That They Were Tumors Themselves so Not Only Were They Now Stealing the Energy so They Could Continue to Grow As a Cancer And Develop into a Bigger Tumor Diesel Tumors Now Are Being Able or Allowed to Activate Something Where They Were Basically Incognito Not Being Able to Be Detected by the Mice and Their Immune System Greg Will Exactly Actually Gets into so This Is Where I Start Getting into the Geeky Stuff Little Bit There's an Enzyme Called Keto Hexokinase Which Will Change Fructose into Fructose One Phosphate While That Turns on The Gene in the Tumor to Use the Glucose More so That's What Tells It to Absorb It More so It Actually Little Cascade and They've Actually Shown the Third Trying to Develop Drugs That Actually Block That So There's Ashley Phase 2 Clinical Trials Going on with Her Trends If They Can Block That One Little Enzyme Does That Sure so What Then The Able or Would We Then Be Able to Extrapolate That Maybe the Reason Why Millennial's Are Now Seeing an Increase In Colon Cancer Is Because Generationally Probably If We Were to Back It up Two or Three Generations We've Seen an Increase in Sugar Consumption People Believe That Sugar Is Related to Inflammation That Those Two Things Combined Together Are Now We Are Seeing an Increase in These Types of Cancers They're Being Detected Because When You Consume Any Type of Food He Goes Straight to Your G.I. Tract Would You Say That This Is Somewhat Related or Possibly Related Will That Was the Funny Part Is This Study Gets You Thinking about That Because When They When They Were This Is the First Time That We Have Seen People Having a Higher Incidence of Colon Cancer Than Their Parents Rights for Simon so It Was Speculated over It's Gotta Be Obesity It's Gotta Be the Metabolic Syndrome This Is the First One Would You Look at Something Ago Now Looks like It's the Way That Were Processing Food The High Fructose Corn Syrup Is in Everything Everything but It's Really Concentrated One Can of Soda and so the Consumption of Soda Has Increased since the 80s Significantly So Is It Our Diet That's Doing This Were Trying to Label It with Different Things Owed Sedentary Lifestyle or Possibly It Smoking or Whatever Now Looks like Our Diet Is Really Contributing to the Amount of Cancers That Were Seeing You It's Wild If You Just Look Back I Can Never Looking Back at Pictures of My Dad or My Mom Growing up and What Family Pictures Look like Whenever They Went on Vacation He Would See Everyone and All the Ancillary Players in the Photographs Around And Who They Considered to Be Overweight Back Then In the 50s and 60s and Stephen the 70s And It's Starkly Different Than the Then the Body Type so What People Look like Today and What We Consider Overweight and for Me Personally I Really Don't Even Point It Those People It's Just Our Food Supply Is so Inundated With Lots of Things That You Just Are Unaware Could Possibly Be Contributing to Natalie Being Overweight but Probably the Diseases That Maybe Are Going to Have That You Don't Even Know the Are Manifesting Right Now Unfortunately Possibly Even Colon Cancer for Millennial Becomes Really Kind of the Disheartening That They Are Actually Allowing or They'd the Insurance Companies Are Allowing Us to Screen People at an Earlier Age and They Wouldn't Do It If It Weren't In Balance with with Cost It's Always More Cost-Effective to Catch a Cancer Early Then Late so If They Are Allowing People to Not Have To Wait till 50 To Come in and Just Get Their First Screening and Now They've Lowered It Doubly 4545 and If There's a Family History of Violence Then It's 42 Start to Begin and That Was Not That Way It All 10 Years Ago for Sure It Was an End It's Fascinating Because Here I Am I Just Got This Article Yesterday You and I Were I Was Doing Colonoscopies Yesterday and I Just Started Jumping up and down Because I Realize That When Patients Go into Recovery Most of Them Are Given a Can of Soda after They Get out There Sentiment. To That Right Now Were to Put a Stop Ides I Told All the Nurses Alike No More so to Tour Patients Were Trying to Stop Colon Cancer And Were Causing It by Drinking Minnesota so We Should At Least Lead by Example Would Be Given Patients a Pack of Cigarettes with Her Leaving the Endo Center I Got Admit It Did Nobody in the Hospital System Seems to and from RT Friends at Them so I Bet If You Want to Find the Smoking Dock Just Look for the Respiratory Therapist outside of the Hospital Why That's the Same at Every Single Hospital Ultimate Training Every Hospital Billing I Don't Know Either It It's It's It's Really Kind of Fascinating Hey Before We Might Give Any Other Quick Takeaways from This Particular Study Rotates Just That This One Is Just so Impressive Because It Really Shows That the Way That We May Be Treating Cancers in General Is Wrong so I Talked to Some My Cancer.Friends of My Katie Put People in a Ketogenic Diet Greatly When the Do That No We Don't Do You Ever Use Fasting When Somebody Has Us and We've Discussed before That the Fasting Mimicking Diet Actually Has Been Shown to Improve The Effect of Chemo And Decrease the Amount of Side Effects but That's Still Not Being Implemented so Here Is One Example It Always Starts out As Animal Studies Are Which Is When Humans but I Think That This Is the First Step to Show Hey Proper Treatment of Cancer Is to Starve It Not to Just Dump a Bunch of Sugar on It Which Is What Were Kinda Doing Yeah Isn't It Interesting That Maybe Even When Your Body Is Trying to Recover from an Episode of Cancer Not Just When It's Chemo Induced but When People Begin to Lose Weight Everyone Immediately Becomes Concerned Possibly It's Sometimes the Body Just Knows What He Wants to Do And by Starving These Tumors from the Circulating Glucose Is Its First Mechanism of Defense We've Got to Stop Feeding This Is Base Leads Rogue Cell Or Whatever It Is It Happens to Be Going Out Of Control Yeah… That I Think It's Faster Oh Did You See the Speaking Fascinated to See That That's California Man Was Awarded $80 Million Because He Had 56 Acres That He Was Using Roundup for Decades $80 Million That Is so Wild That It so It's an Incredible That It It Took This Long to Find out about and We Were Spraying It on Everything so We've Got Dividing up the Deck Stacked against You If You Got a Carcinogen on Your Food Chair and Then If You're Going to Take the Corn Fructose Which the Horn Was Sprayed Right Now We've Got a Double Whammy Going on Right There You I Can or When the First Big Move in a Big Push of the Non-GMO Foods This 90 Mode Foods That and I Was Really Rather Ignorant in Terms of What That Actually Meant And It Was Really Easy to Find Detractors from People Who Were Reporting That Movement like All They're Just They're Just Afraid They Were Doing New Technology in Food Development and Etc. so Much More Than That It Comes down to Protecting You and Yourself from Carcinogens Which Can't Taste You Can't Detect You Have No Idea You Have the Healthiest Person in the World Is Exercising Not Smoking Trying to Eat Right And While They Are Eating the Foods That They Trust Such As a Great Piece of Broccoli Vegetable Actually Consuming Glyphosate or Roundup In Their Food and They Get Sick That I Read Another Article Which Showed If You're Exposed to Round up on a Regular Basis You Have over a 41% Chance of Getting Lymphoma Hodgkin's Lymphoma I Don't Know Where They Got That That I Need to Find the Actual Article but in This Particular Study They Were Referencing Ups I Think That Was Used As a Type of Cancer That That Man Got And That's Why He Was Awarded This so Probably for a Follow-Up Episode Because What We Do Here Is Always Try to Speak into the Facts and Know That We Seen the Trend on Various Types of Cancers Including Lymphoma Have Been Increasing I Just Don't Have It on Hand That We Will Tackle That Probably in a Future Episode in Terms of the Non-GMO Versus GMO Roundup Life Estate Is or Has To Be Something to Though Because You Have the Lymphoma Belt in the United States Which Is Nebraska and Iowa Run from Agronomy and That's What University Breast Is so Good at Transplants Because They're One of the First Places to Do the Autologous Bone Rail Transport Because They Were Seen so Much Leukemia and Lymphoma And They Didn't Technically Everyone Said They Couldn't Explain They Didn't Know What It Was But It's the Same Thing Is Whenever They First Figured out the Black Lung Was Kind of the Problem In Minutes It's Really No Different EE No One Created the Industry to Make People Sick but Once People Began to Get Sick It's like What's the Acclamation Here Are Just Kind Crazy Everybody's Getting Sick and You Realize It's a Sit in the Air and You It's It's Really No Different from the Time That You and I Went to Virginia We Worked in the Coal Mine That One Day Yeah with Zoo Lander Haplotype Man Man's Underrated Moving Speaking of Movies Are Yesterday's Sent Me His at His Top Five Movies or Lease That I Reminded Him of That He Wants to Cover Why Does He Send Them to Well He Said to Me Because I Was Just Curious on What He Would like to Talk about Ancillary to Some of His Incredible Story Already but Will Dig in and See How How Well He Actually Knows These Movies Whenever the Last Half Hour Rolls around and See What Mark Knows about His Own His Own Favor. He Descended to Her Did He Fill out Our Gut Check Project Intake Form That's a Good Question so If You Have Somebody July Can Nominate to Be on Our New Show Gut Check Project You Can Visit Us a Gut Check Project.com Go to Connect and since Some of the Way That You Think You Be a Good Fit for Get Your Project to Be Interviewed by Your Very Own Dr. Brown and on That Form of Course We Find out Really Little Bit Everything about Who It Is Going to Have on Show I Do Know It's the It's the Eric and Dr. Ron I'm Here to Just Pull up Movie Lines Occasionally When You Say Things like Black Long That's That's All I Could Think about Them like Julian Yeah Well You Know That That There's Nothing Wrong, Challenge You to Ask the Hard Questions Okay for Any of Our Guests Yeah What You Say That You so We I Think in the Future What We Should Do Is You We Should Have an over under Policy Only Jessica Make Riley Barbara Walters Style Okay Really Did Indeed Make Sense That Something I Met Me Physically or 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Have a Whole Lot of Time Right Now but That You Take That You Would've Drilled a Hole Show on That but Basically the Way That I Tell My Patients Is CBD Just Sort of Presses the Reset Button and Puts Everything Back in Balance and If You Think of It Anxiety Is Just an over Firing Nervous like Sensitive Nerve Always Does Is Just Calm It down like a Traffic Cop so That You Just Get All the Anxiety Is Just a Perception of Neurons Firing Right below the Extreme Version Would Be Seizure Early on Just Because Everything down Gets to Go Back to Normal Now so I Kind of Explained It to My Patients Might Just Try It If You Have a Deficiency in Your Endo Cannabinoid System Chances Are You Can Have a Pretty Good Response with Wild Thing Is the Just of Multiple Applications for Utilizing The Indo Cannabinoid System Which Everyone Has In Their Own Body Basically Resetting Just like He Said to Make People Feel Better and There's a Bunch of Different Ways to Make It Happen but Rather Than Make It Sound like a Magic Pill for Everything We Really Want to Break That down and Build Keep Those Questions Coming Dealing with Anxiety Is Something You're Going to Have Someone on a Think in about Six Weeks I Think so You and at That Point Time Will Get a Much Much Much Deeper but Any Other Applications of CBD and Questions like That Combine with Polyphenols… Gasifier Questions Because This Is Holding Figure Who Do Other Episodes Definitely What Is the Old Anybody That Swimming Towards Us Asking a Question We Want to Address It and We Have the Ability to Bring Some Experts in and Were Just Gonna Make Sure That We Do This and Try to You Have Some Fun but Also to Work, Science Here and so We Want to Make Sure That We Use Science and Studies to Explain Everything in a Very Delay Term Hopefully We Can Do It Because the Other Cannabinoid System Is a Tough System to Explain He Said Were There Hopefully and That's Something That We Want to Do Today with Today's Guest Is Going to Join Us in the Next Half Hour Will Bring All Hope to Everyone This Is Our Next Guest Is Mark Simone and He Is the Only Documented Five Year Survival Are Survivor from D Differentiated Chondrocyte: Please Get an Incredible Story to Stick around He Is Taking His Journey and Turning It into His Way to Reach Others and Deliver Now You Can Fly Anywhere in the World and Paid Discount Prices on Your Airline Ticket Book a Flight to Date Alignment Harassment to Read or Anywhere Else You Want to Go and Pay A Lot Less All the International Travel Apartments Right Now Low-Cost Airlines 800 452 1075 800-452-1075 That's a Got an Old Car Donated Whether It's Running or Not to the United Breast Cancer Foundation and Save a Life They'll Even Come and Pick It up for Free The United Breast Cancer Foundation Has Saved Hundreds of Women's Lives through Their Free or Low-Cost Breast Screening Exams but Now They Need Your Help The United Breast Cancer Foundation Wants to Save More Lives through Early Detection by Offering Women 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Joining Us Today His Name Is Mark Silliman and As I As I Mentioned at the Bottom of the Last Half Hour. He Is the Only Five Year Survivor Of D Differentiated Chondrocyte, The Only Five-Year Survival on Record Eyes Got an Incredible Story of Actually Known Mark for Almost 20 Years I You're an Entrepreneur Your Husband and Father of Three Former D1 Football Plate Would You Where Did Apply Zero Other School like Other Than the University Of Texas I Didn't Do Nothing about Him You Had a Bright Did Not Know the University Nebraska Has One That Texas Tech Has Programmatic When You Get That UniFirst Nebraska That's Royal Memorial North Because of the Cornhuskers Mark Has an Incredible Story and To Briefly Mention I've Known Him for Almost 20 Years Actually My Wife and I Bought Our First Home From You Back When You're Dabbling in Our Building Homes and Even Had Cereal Lunch Manure for a Long Time Go Ahead and Looking at Bring a Jump Forward a Little Bit But Once You Take from Their Which Part the Serial Entrepreneur Report What Are the Cancer Part Well in 2010 I Guess I Would Diagnosed with Bone Cancer Okay and Originally It Was Just Gonna Be a Simple 19 Hour Procedure 15 Hours by the Surgeon Four Hours by the Plastic Surgeon There Were to Take out Half My Pelvis so Actually Had a Hemi Pill Back to Me with Allograft I Was Stuck You Real Quick Good Is Working to Get It That's When You Want Is Not What You're Going to Want Something Different Well Now It's It's It's How It Kinda Hit from You Little Bit So I Remember Bringing My Oldest Gauge over to Your House and This Would've Been an Earlier 2010 Right and You Were Laying on the Floor of Your Living Room And You Kept Saying Rear My Back Honest I Don't Know What the Hell's Going on This Only Place I Get Comfortable Take a Nap and You Are Laying on the Floor of Your Living Room with Her Legs Propped up and Physician Interposition Had Scanned Her Back I Was Trying to Find out Where the Pain Was Coming from and Got Different Diagnoses of a Stretches and Other Things like That They Weren't Working And Then It Led to Someone Look Old and a Little Bit Different Location So I Guess in January of That Year and Coach My Daughter's Basketball Team And They Were Doing a Drill in Particular like the Way the Drill so I Hopped in June This Year and under the Real And Course There 10 or 11-year-old Girls Must like Herding Cats Betting on so I Get up the Next Morning Get This Back Pain Thinking Whelming on Little Older and Will Shape Just Pulled Something Couple Weeks Later Be Fine That Didn't Work So Would It Gotten so Painful and I Was so Restless That My Wife Kicked Me Out Of Bed Not Move the Couch Could Getting Comfort There Then I Moved to the Floor and That's What You Remember Him Sleeping on the Floor No Jumpers Are You Comfort Well up into Two or Three Different Doctors Had Had the MRIs of My Lower Back and Had SI Injections I Went to a Chiropractor for Couple Three Weeks of He Said I'd Be I Can Get You Straightened out New Massage Therapist Went to Massage Therapist Every Day for a Week and She Said I Can Get That That Muscles in This like a Rope and I Can Get How Old Were You When You're Going through the 4445 And the The Massage Therapist Is Heather's New Work Sports Medicine Guy across the Street Want to Go See Him I Walked in And He Looked at Me and Says Will You Come to Get Your Gates, Funny And He Took Extreme up My Pelvis Which Nobody Every Identified My Pelvis Because the Pain Was in My Lower Back And Send Me Cross to the Hospital to Do a MRI of One of My Lower Pelvis Now And I Come Back to Him and in the and in Small Town You, Know Everybody Lives There Will the Radiology Tech Pulls Me Out Of the of the Tube in His Shoes, White until Something Wrong And His Name's Mark Also And Marquis Prompts I Can't Tell You You Just Can't Go Back across the Street See the Doctor Have All the Film Thing Else Will He Pulls up the Films and I've Got This and What Just Lit up on Screen This Tumor in the Pillows That Was the First Indication of Where It Was Always Just a Muscular Muscular Problem and Not a Bone Problem or Cancer Problem Bryant Family History of Bone Cancer or Anything like That Don't Cost My Mom to To Diet Coke Today To Brain Cancer. And She Fought That for 10 Years and Multiple Servers But No Bone Cancer They Can Is It Even Common for an Older Person to Have a Bone Cancer Both Extinct It's Very Rare The Type of Cancer You're Talking about the One That You Ended up Being Diagnosed with What's Unusual about It That Involves Both Bone and Cartilage Nice Leather Coat the Deed Differentiated Type of Cancer Router Actually Goes into Both of Them There Is a KJ's Disease When You're over the Age of 60 That Can Turn into Bone Cancer but Most of the Time It's Kids That Actually Came to Bone Cancer That's Called Osteosarcoma so This Is A Completely Different One It's Very Unique Very Very Rare Well the Congress or Coma Is As Rare and That Was the Original Diagnosis from the First Biopsy Which Is like You Said Boeing and Cartledge and F They Took the Tumor out and Did a Full Biopsy Then They Decided What We Pulled out a Bunch of Homogeneous Sales at That Point in Time and so Controversial, Is Not Exactly What It Is No Matter/in This This Loaf of Bread to Define the The Real Answer and It Should Be Differentiated Which Means That They Can't Tell You Where It Came from Whether Described It to Me Was If What What's the What's the Cell in Your Body That the T Cells That Produced the The so the Osteoblast No Over-The-Counter Blessed Usually It's It's a Blast That's the Precursor No so If I Have a Cell in the Body of Stem Cell or Something That's Going to Create a Fingernail As of the Stem Cell Yeah Okay so the Stem Cell It Is Releases Sale to Become a Fingernail or Hair Follicle And That It Was It's Differentiated So It Goes from What That Stem Cell Is to the Fingernail Will It Fall Short That's the D Differentiated Part so They Don't Know Where It Came from It Ends up And All Your Organs at Some Point Time They There Wasn't There Is No Cure That They Have Found This Point They Just Keep Having Surgeries and Taken Stuff out So What You Think You Know Your 44 Years Old Got Young Kids What's Really Going through Your Brain I Mean Let's Walk Us through Somebody That Actually Unfortunately You're Still Here to Talk about It What's Going through Your Brain That You Had a Doctor Come in Well So Entry Part of the Story I'm in Amman for a Week Four Weeks Actually in a Body Cast, but I'm Laying in His Bed and Can't Move And Now Let the Bones Everything He'll And the First Time the Doctor Comes in Orthopedic Lady She Brings a Guy with Her Big 6 Foot Seven Guy Hi Mark I Want You to Meet This Guy from the Blood Bank Okay Great a Home or Not She's Always She's Just Been No She's Trained in All These Fellows She's Just This Incredible Physician Innovative Because Five Years Prior to The Surgery That She Did for Me They Just Took the Leg off Understand. So You Run Rampant Leg She Had Created and Innovated This This Particular Procedure So the Guy Comes in from the Blood Bank And He Says I Think We've Infected with HIV In One Yeah Blood Transfusion I Think We've Given Your Chubby So I'm Kind of Freak in a Little Bit of Artie Get This This Rehab This Will Be a 24 Month Rehab and Learn How to Walk and Develop a List of Internet Your Company Thanks and Thorne Legibly And the He Was Kidding Right Was a Silly Bit Series And so We Can Freaked out so It Goes Janice and I Gonna Freak out All Just This Conversation but You That I Know It's Only Kind of Well He Comes Back in 0234 Days Later and Says Ride so We've Retested Your Blood It's Not Showing up There's No Markers in Your Blood Will Continue to Test You Will Think You're Okay I Think We Have Something False Reading Which Is Probably Not Coming He's Probably Just the Messenger They Probably Have the Biggest Guy There's like Every Head Every Time We Infect Some Truth HIV-AIDS Has Represented How Often Does This Happen in That Particular Blood Bank Is like Sorry I Got a Get to Know the Room Overhearing. We Have an Assignment You So He Leaves after I Come in the Clear but This Kind of a Roller Coaster of Stuff That You Know You Had the Surgery 24 Months Now You Have a Chevy or Whatever You Get Is No Fight This Fight She Comes in a Couple Week Later Zone Brings Another Doctor and Says Hey Mark You Need to Get Your Affairs in Order Oh Because You Got about That Best Six Months to Live Unlike What Was Going on and so You Ask about What Was Going to Your Head Are You There's Denial First You Told Me HLB's Are Not Buying Your Story Anymore Now You Tell Me That I Got Six Months to Live on the Bind That Story Anymore Either And the You Know He Leaves and Then We Go through All the Scenarios over the Statistics What's Is This Legit How Do You Know Is Is a Misdiagnosis We Believe in Miracles Mistakes And He Wouldn't Talk about Any of That Stuff Just Works on a Positive Attitude No You Have Good Family Good Support Group and We Need to Pray to Whoever You Pray to And the In Order to Go As Best We Can Only Point I Would Become Polytheistic Sure Start Praying to All of Them Well and He Leaves Right and so There Is a Guy in Town Aaron Milstein Was in Town Visited Me in the Hospital and This Guy Delivers Loses Me an Error My Dad I'm 10 Crap And My Wife's Back Home And She Had Heard This in a Cigarette I'm Not Saying a Word Aaron When You Go Home You Not Saying a Word to Your Wife I Want This out to My Wife Comes Back in This Weekend and Dr. Robbie by the Way You're Gonna Deliver the News I'm Not Going to Write so He Leaves And so You Go through the Know Is Calico 5° of Separation You Denial Whatever What You Gonna Do Now Get Your Fair Share Is My Tell You That You Get Zero Liberty Anything but Your Kids And in the Lives of Things That Night I'm Laying in Bed and Talk about Having No Begin Being the Religious Was out Born and Raised in the Church and Hence Have a Pretty Good Religious Background but I'm Pitched at That Point I'm Having a Fight with God More Argument The Stages Brother and This Isn't Happening to Me And I've Got a Wife I Get Three Kids If I'm Good – I'm Okay Back but I'm Not Okay Leaving Them Alone Without Needed to Take Care Of My New Summer Influence Rest Their Life And the Time Marcus Was Third Grade and Then EAN Where like to Fit in Sync with Their Six Grade Yeah They're Not Rulon I'm And Some past Minimum Wrestling in Bed before Because I Can't Get Any Risk As I'm in so Much Pain Amount to Different Campaign I'm Fighting in Bed And, and I Asked the Doctor Early about Miracles Mistakes And I'm I'm Telling You since I'm Sitting Here Pam There's a Just Peace Washes over Me and I Was like I Got This Boot You Have To Worry about It Again from That Point on Never Thought about It Again No New That I Just Knew I Was Gonna Survive My Job Was Just to Sit Back and Let the Doctors Do What They Do Just Survive And I Never Had Another Doubt It Was Just Another Doubt When You Go to All Kinds of Different Emotions but at That Point I Can Pinpoint That Particular Night In That Particular Time Lay in My Bed That Just This Piece Just Should Just Watch the So It Was a Journey so Obviously Held That the Doctors There Was Intervention There Was Medicine Use What Was the First Step and Then Going through That Kind of Schedule Well after He Told Me Also Dine Six Months He Says Renders and Chemo Which One Part of the Original Plan And He Says If the Cancer and Get Your First Chemo Might Take You to His Close like in the Death And so Started at about 240 Pounds And Ended up at Hundred and 87 Pounds Not Hear My Head Not Eyebrow Not on Those Here Nothing to My Butt Crack Nothing Great I Got a Great Plus Track Story I'll Tell You What I Think Is Interesting It's like I Can't See Any Hair Appear Honey Get over Here and Check It Check It You Opened It up so I Got a the Story Them so Now They Get You up to Rehab Right and You Get Move in and and Running It through One of My Jobs Was to Get up Just Walked to the Nurses Station and Back And I Got This Walk and I Get This Go We Haven't Got a Nobel Drama so Don't Fall down And His Name's Alex Left That Matters but Some Walking a Little Bit And I Get a Nurse Station Come Back Think of Had a Good Day Chemo Start to Sit in This Is Going on for Several Weeks Now Now I'm Bald In Almost All My Eyebrows Nothing Else, but Record Showed That Just Run the Story Anyway so I'm Plugging along with This Little Walker and I'm Sweat Its Work And so His Squeak Squeak Squeak Is a Bad Food You Gotta Stop The Guy Gets New Tennis Shoes or Something to Those at the Time No Hearings All Messed up And so That Was Just Really Driving Me Crazy so That You Stop It's Not May Misuse Arts Week and That Is Not Me so Just Stop He Stopped and I Don't Squeak We And Alex That You Know It's Not Me Markets Coming Out Of the Words Come from Is Not Me Maybe It's the Walker That Is Not the Walker Alex to Stop so He Lets Go And We Schooley and a Wooden Walker so at This Point I Am Not Weight-Bearing on That, My Right Leg at That Point What It Happened I Had Worked up Just Enough of Us Went up That In My Butt Crack Every Time I Walked He Would Just Go So Now I Go through All This Every Stop Looking around and so Now I Know That Every Time That I Was Going to Rehab I Was in a Walking Pillow Squeaked That's When I Knew That I Had Accomplished My Goal Don't Use Workup Enough to Wash with Sweat Now Get the Squeak Going and It Was Just the Funniest Thing That I Got a Bazillion Just Hilarious Stories Out Of All This Have a Real Serious Situation but There's a There's A Lot Of Humor in It and You Have Some Humor Chair Otherwise You Know the Doctor Really Said If You Don't Have Some A Positive Attitude about Stuff and Support Your Family and I Completely Believe That Because There's so Many Things in Our Brain We Don't Know That the Brain Does Leases or Controls in You Being You Guys Mean the Doctors Will Have All That Knowledge Young at All, Intellectual Me What I'm Trying to Wrap My Brain around Is When Your Brain Said No We Got This What Did Something I Mean There's Epigenetic's Going on When No I Got This Does That Change Something in Your Body That Allows You To Have a Better Chance of Surviving a Cancer That Kills a Mindset Has To Matter Hat on It Months It's Been a Big Think about Using Somebody in the Office in the Head They Walk around Get That Permanent Frown on Her Face No They're Just Negative All the Time and They Got Those of People Walk around or Just Bouncing off the Water Happy and You Can't Tell Why Is That Is That Genetics Is That Something in Your Life Is It Just Your Attitude What Is It Your Your Physical Appearance Turns into What You're Your Attitude Becomes and If a Negative Note That the Frown on My Face Than You Can See the Body Language That Best Personality That You Become so the Survival Piece I Think Is Is A Lot Of It Is Mental and It's a Battle and If You Decide At Some Point I'm Going with This Then You Can Whip It I Can Tell You That Story but I Could Also Mean There Will Be Another Thousand Stories out There the People Didn't Survive How Do You Know I Remember after It Has a Good While after You Finished Everything You Came up with a Slogan I Think You Started to Incorporate Will Get to It Later but It Was Your Getting What You're Getting Because You've Been Giving What You Been Giving Right And That Can Go Back to Your Attitude Really in Anything Right It's That's Funny I Stole This from Zig Ziglar I Wish I Could Say I Invented or Kept It but It Wallace I Was Gonna Let You Float within the 21 When Her Water, Carried My Wife Work Foreman and Brought Home All the Tapes and so on Wasn't to Home and I Thought Just That's Just so Appropriate Because If You Give a Bad Attitude You Can Get a Bad Attitude and Return And I've Just Goofed around in Different Settings Where People Can Get into a Situation Were A Lot Of Negative Gossip Producing All the Nonsense on Social Media and in the Talking Heads in the News and the Media Nowadays You Going to Setting and Thereby Can Be Fixated on a Particular Item Have This Negative Attitude and You Just Bring One Person in There and You Start Lacing in the Loop with a Positive Attitude and You Watch the Whole Dynamics of the Room Change yet and It's Kinda Interesting Just Somebody's in the Coming Change in Attitude and Works the Same Way yet I Just Know Where to Listen or Ask Might so That's a Big Long Name for the Cancer but It's a Type of Bone Cancer but Is It That Is There Any Other Way to Describe It He's Asking If There Is Any Other Way to Scratch I Have yet Forgot What I Thought As I Have Found Art but That Is Any Other Way to Describe That Type of Bone Cancer Mark The Lie We Had a Listener Who Is Written in and Wanted to Know Better That Long Night – GD Differentiated Congress or, Yeah Indeed Differentiated You Can Convert Sarcoma Condo Sarcomas the Common Name for It but Because It's Special The Differentiated Gallic Alec up and I'll Just Text a Link Back to Them through Spiny and yet It's a It's It's Rare It Say There's Really No Other Way to Describe It Other Than You've Got This Cancer That's Crossing over between the Cartilage in the Bone and This Is Forming The Cancer That's Coming to the End of the Pelvis like That The Edges Sounds While I Equate Just Give Us a Rundown and Then of What the Activities What You Had to Do I Know They Had to Do Chemo You Had Your Surgery So Yeah so We Had 19 Our Own Record of Good Story in This So You Know Is Doctors Going for Any Kind of Surgery They Give You the Purple Pen Right Operate on the Right Knee and so As the Patient Number Right Now No Make a Mark on My Knee Right Knee So When You Go and You Don't Screw up and Mark the Light on the Left So the Plastic Surgeon Guy Comes in and He Still Me All That Were Gonna Do And They Were Going to Take 6 Cm Out Of the Middle of My Stomach All the Way down Past My Bellybutton up Got a Whole Brand-New Bellybutton by the Way And There Were No since This Backup Okay and Their Rent Their Creighton Flaps If You Think about Taking a Big Jump Folgers Coffee Cup Put Record Your Pelvis and Pushing It Always through Your Body Everything That Went into That Coffee Cup Ended up in the Trashcan Okay so You Got a Cavity There Now What Are You Going to Do so They Were Taken the 6 Cm Out Of My Lab to Put into This Flap down Here to Keep My Insides from Falling up the Backside These Pointers Right Going Right Drawing and the So I Took That Purple Pen and I Said Dr. Reese Make Sure You Leave Me a Sixpack Abs on My Stomach I've Never Had a Sixpack Abs I Thought That Was the Only Chance I Was Ever to Get It and He Did a Pretty Dang Good Job But The Orthopedic Lady Worked for 15 Hours Straight And in the Plastics Guided a Four Hour Surgery on Same Day on the Same Setting And so 19 Hours Totals, It's Amazing Crazy That Is a Long Surgery Which Is I Mean Just Absolutely Incredible Because A Lot Of Times We Talked about Where Medicine Fails but Certainly You and I Talked about That True I Feel like Medicine Could Be Doing a Better Job For Instance Controlling Diet Right Then We Have That 15 Hours Surgery That Is Incredible This Is Where It's Definitely Succeeding Yes Well You Guys There's a Reason Why They Call It You Practice Medicine Because There Is Little Perfection in It Because You're Operating on Human Body Which Is Imperfect to Begin with Right And so And We Talked a Bit Earlier How Went from from One Dr. Trying to Chase down a Diagnosis and I Feel Fairly Fortunate That Each Doctor Said I've Tried I've Made an Attempt and I'm in Have To Send You to Somebody Else and so I Kept It Referred over and over and over It Might've Been a Frustrating Situation but in Reality the Doctors Practicing What He Knows And's Finally Stops and Says I Think There's Somebody Better To Help with Your Diagnosis or Help Push You down the Track Where You Need to Be so Appreciated That That They Weren't so Egotistical That Said I Got This in the Switch Problem Is in and Sit Me down You the Wrong Path so It Was Kind of a Neat Progression That See How the Physician Community Just They Work Together Come up with Right Diagnosis at the End of the Day So Then What Were the Were There Any Other Foreign Bodies Any Other Animal Parts That Maybe You're Sporting Right Now That Didn't Just Belong to You Well So I Have Somebody Else's Pelvis and Me Okay and I Don't Know Are You Going on Animal Parts but While I'm Here Here about a Man Not Really Sure so the Good the Joke Is That They Were Looking for Similar Pelvis Same Shape Same Size the Telegraph You Know of Cadaver Bone to Bone And the Want to Find Something And They Finally Find It in the Comments Aren't We Can Do Surgery on This Particular Day Now You Don't Have a Whole Lot of Female Orthopedist Right And the Lady That's down at MD Anderson Is a Female And so I Thought That Was a Little Unusual And I in My Day Job I Do with Physicians All over the Country And so That's a Little in Common So I Go to the MD Anderson Website Liquor up And It's Black Lady Which Makes It Even More Uncommon And When You Meet Her You Go Oh My Gosh You Are Perfect for This Job You Are the Right Person She Is a Freak and Ball Buster and She Always Had All These Other Physicians Following Her around Because She Was Kind of a Pioneer in This Particular Type of Procedure so She Had Called And Finally Found the Bone Mrs. Art Room Schedule Surgery for This Particular Day How Does She Do That like Can't Even Begin Looking for a Pelvis It's Going to Fit In a Could Ever There's a Bone Bank And Oh so You – and Then Donate Your Organs and the and This Is up California and This Is Another Funny Story That I'm at a Conference That I Go to Once You're Always with You Guys In All These Vendors Are in the Know in the Exhibit Hall And I'm Talking about My Story It to This One Guy Nieces Where Did You Get Treatment Sit down in Houston in the Engine Just When Did You Do That Is It in July 2010 I Think I Know about You Simply Mean Sidwell My Wife Works at the at the the Bone Donor Place Whatever It Is Where They Freeze All the Stuff and She Was Working Going to Bone after Bone after Bone to Try to Find a Picture When It Was This Size and Had to Go to Houston and Bob Baugh And*The Chief I Was Least Found She Was Looking for Shoes As It Will This You Know Anything about the Person That I Got It from And She Says Yeah 300 Pound Black Lady So I Thought I Got This Black Doctor Working on Me I Got This Black Bone in Me and I'm Have a Soul When I Come out Here You Do Dance Better No I Do Not Either to Help Me up Here But I Forget What Your Original Question Was about Diverted into the Wrong Snow We Were Just Talking My Animal Yeah We Just Just the Different Different Graphs That You You Had to Use Mean Here's Surgery Although It We Already Know That It's Long There's There's a Process to It Is a Process to the Chemo There Was a You Had the Best Attitude but It Was Still Work but I Can Still Remember That the Months and Months of of Watching You Show up Tell Your Kids Athletic Events and Games Try to Pull the Truck As Close As You Could to the Football Field You Said You Could Watch and Participate In Family Activity and Every Time I Stop by to See You He Did All You Could to Smile and I Knew That It Was Difficult But You Made It through… Told and Believe Miracles Mistakes Not I Think I'm a Walking Living Breathing Miracle You Don't Ever Take a Single Day for Granite Because If You Have yet Sit and Think about It for Second Get Your Affairs in Order Get Six Months to Live I Think That Would Change Your Life a Little Bit The Things That You Would Miss Definitely so It Just Enhances Your Attitude There Is a Great Day Rated below When You Got to the End Of Basically Felt Okay We Are in the Clear Now We Are Now Are Counting Months an Hour to Count Years of Mark's Survival Time What Was the Turnaround Said Okay We've We Got to the End of What Were Going to Do with You What Was That Day like and Then How Did You and Susan Then Susan's Wife Is His Wife's Name by the Way Has You and Susan Then Began to Get into the Frame Set of Okay We Are Now Moving on with Our Life Everyday's a Great Day And Then Sending Our Accounting up and Yelled Me to a Year Then Is Alluded to Earlier You Made It to Five Years an Hour Already Little over Seven Right So What Was It like No One Halyards This July Night 19th 98 so I Was off the Year What Was It like to to Get to the End of Whatever Therapy That What's so I Mentioned before I Start out 240 Pounds How Is It Jim at Hundred 87 Pounds Indicator Where We Live They Have This I Didn't Have Any Idea but Had at the Time There's a Service That Would Flock Cancer Patients to and from Houston for Free Guy Would Take Any Money If You Driven to Houston It's Not the Most Scenic Drive from Dallas-Fort Worth to Houston Is, Beating Long to Yeah So He Put You in a Plain Little Private Plane to Fly and Drop You off a Millionaire Take Unicorn Delivery to the Hospital and Then Come and Pick You up When You're Done Instead of Being a Five or 6 Hour Dr. and then up in an hour and 1/2 flight which was Fantastic So to Start the Process I Was in Pretty Good Shape Other Than a King Physically Move Mentally I'm Okay But by the End of the Process Nine Months Later Shriveled Withered Enough That I Can't Physically Get Out Of Their Plane And Susan Had to Call Somebody in Town to Come Pick Me up Physically Pick Me up Put Me in My Car Because I Couldn't Do It Myself And I Member Were Driving Home And Just Exhausted And Grind and Say I Can't Do This Anymore Unfinished and He Said Either the Cancer to Get Your Chemo Going Get You At That Point I Was Done of the Chemo so We Call Them Safe Were Done And so Think with That Tortured You Enough That's Reasonable We Have Got to Finish That Story in the Next Half Hour and Then We'll Talk a Little Bit about That Same Charity That Flies People down to Houston Because Mark Decided His Journey to Lead and Inspire Him to Do Something That Is Really Cool Thank You for Sharing That We Had Movies Get to The This Is the Only 24 Hour Take Anywhere Platforms Dedicated to Food and Fun We're Spoony Our Townhall.com, the Special Counsel's Rush Investigations Walking Fresh Speculation the President from May Pardon Some of Those Charged in the Probe Some of the President's Closest Advisers and GOP Allies Fear the Pardons Could Set off a Political Firestorm The President Preparing to Hit the Road Later Today As White House Correspondent Greg Clugston Explained for the First Time since Being Cleared of Russia Collusion by the Special Counsel the President Goes before Thousands of Supporters at a Michigan Rally This Evening Political Observers Will Be Watching to See How Mr. Trump Addresses the Issue Which Could Be a Preview of How He Uses It Politically during His Reelection Campaign the President Calling for the Resignation of Democrat Congressman Adam Shifts Chair of the House Intelligence Committee on Twitter the President Writes a Shift Spent Two Years Knowingly and Unlawfully Lying and Leaking Mr. Trump Also Talking about the Just a Small Laissez-Faire Writing That the FBI and DOJ to Review the Outrageous SEs Smell like Case the Presidents Blasting Chicago Prosecutors to Drop Charges against Millett Tweets Their Handling of a Quote Outrageous Case Was an Embarrassment He's Calling on the FBI and Justice Department to Investigate Correspondence Argument Johnny Says Mr. Trump Altercation Embarrassment to Our Nation Facebook Being Accused of Housing Discrimination Charge Leveled by the Department of Housing and Urban Development HUD Is Accusing Facebook's Ad Platform of Encouraging Enabling and Causing Housing Discrimination Facebook Recently Vowed to Overhaul Its Ad Targeting Systems to Prevent Discrimination in Housing Credit And Employment Ads a Seattle Bus Driver Being Lauded As a Hero despite Being Shot and Wounded by a Car Jacquard He Still Managed to Drive His Boss with a Dozen Passengers on Board Out Of Harm's Way While Street the Dow up 48 Points More of the Stories at Town Hall.com Take the Pain Out Of Ordering Your Diabetic Testing Supplies with Diet Thrive Diatribe Ships the Testing Supplies You Need Directly to You When You Need Them Best of All with Plans Starting As Low As Eight Dollars a Month Diatribe Is Probably Going to Cost You Less Than What You're Paying Today Diatribe Is so Convinced That You Love Their Service They're Offering Your First Month of Supplies Three Simply Type the Kodak DOC and Checkout Diet Thrive.com That's DIA Thrive.com Have You Done It Did You Catch a Glimpse of Yourself in the Mirror I'm I'm One of Those People You Don't Want to See Naked IBM Most of Us but I Mean You Look and You're Going to Die I Don't Get Whatever All It's Horrible Hey That's Doc Townsend and Brad Staggs to Tell You about a Different Way to Shed Those Pounds This Is Brand-New Technically Been around for a Couple Years or so It Was Based on Research from the 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Second Hour Episode Forever Getting Project Here with Your Host Ken Brown I Am Eric Rager Joined Today by Mr. Mark Silliman Will Continue His Story Here in Just a Brief Moment Quick Reminder If You Want to Get Your Daily Polyphenol Fix Pickups and Are Trying to Let Love My Tummy.com/Spoony He's Wearing It All Right Here in so Many I Love That He Just He Just Took off Her Sweatshirt and There It Was Perfect We Are to Get Comments Today so You Go to Get Check Project.com and You'll Take Straight the Page Go to Connect You Can Send Us Messages What Is Really Cool One of the Listeners Said That He Deftly Checked His Ego at the Door so We Call This the Jet Check Project You Really Can't Learn If You Think You Already Know Things so The Ego Is the Biggest Enemy to Learning So We Ask Everybody to Check Their Ego at the Door so We Can Talk about Anything Including Squeaky Butts Squeaky Bats Mark Did That Right off the Bat First Half-Hour Ego No Enzyme No Ego and That One at All No No No Hate Mark so We Are Rounded out the Last Half-Hour You Telling Us That You Had Been at the Point Where You're like I'm Ready to Stop Not Being Able to Get Out Of an Airplane And You Finish It up on That Story Where You Began to Emerge Out Of Therapy and and Post Cancer Treatment Will The Treatment Part Was over Now Just to to Survive So I Go Back Every For a Long Time As Every Month First Year Goes by Course Masking the Chemo Doctor Now Tell Me Statistics Many Survivors Do We Have No Who Else Is like News out There I Get Nothing They Could Be Grim Nothing You Know When I Don't Talk about That Which Have a Good Attitude We Could Move Forward Right So It's Every Month Asking the Same Question Back down Houston Finally Had Your Two Rollaround Same Questions Same Story Give Me the Same Answers Showers and a Great Attitude about Improbable Your Three Rolls around And or the Statistics And He Finally Coughs up That We Gotta Have People You Can Have a Data Backup Patient Right Now We Got a Bunch of Patient Statistically like You Tell Me Where a Man How Many of My Mother Would Get 455 Patients in Our Database And I'm Thinking I Am Not Sure That's a Statistical Analysis Enough of the Sample Size for Statistical Analysis May Be so Mean Spirit Better Than Nothing Sure but That's Only Give Me at That Point so Your Four Rolls around And I'm Beat Them up Again Whether Stats Only People like Me except Her And Get Better and Put on Weight Grumble Her Back The One Closer to Normal Aside from I Don't Have a Groin Muscle and Half of the Hamstring Muscle In Somebody Else's Pelvis and We Can so It… I've Got Some Limitations in the Things That I Physically That I Can Do And Give Many Statistics Year for He Finally Says Will You Are the Only Patient That We Have Had That Hasn't Had a Reoccurrence In the It within Four Years so to Bed Mentioned Earlier That That Then Take out the Tumor but They Don't Know Word or the Genesis of the Cancer So It It Affects All the Rest of Your Organs and He Had Said That And We Just Take out Organs As They Go on to You Can't There's More and We Can't Take out and That's It You Your Done Lights out So He Says You're the Only Case That We Have That Has Had a Reoccurrence of the for Your Mark Five Years Rolled around I Give Him the Same Questions And He's Pretty Excited That Point And He Says You Know I Think I Found the Secret Elixir to Solve This Problem He Lost His Brother to This Type of Cancer so He's, Dedicated His Life to Solving the Problem Whoa And He Says That I Think I Want to Go from 0% Success Rate To 20% So Go Seem the Following Year and How's All That Going Were the Stats Not until Manning and He Says He Is Buried I Don't Use Were Depressed but He's Not It's Jovial and As Happy As He Has Been Because He It's What He's Doing Now What He Did on Me Is Not Working on Other Patients so He Where He Thought He Had Found Some Kind of Cure to Help Some People It Had Worked so at That Point He Said We Still Have Any Documented Survivor And I'm Now at Nine Years of Be Nine Years of Some And so for Lack of And One Was Living There Anybody with This Type of Cancer They Get Funneled to MD Anderson to Take Well It's Rare Enough That I Don't Know That Everybody You Know Can Identify the Particular Type of Cancer and They End up at Anderson Sure You Know That I Feel Fortunate Enough That I Had Doctors That Said Well You Got Something's Kinda Weird Here and I Think You Need to Go on Those Centers of Excellence So My Mom Spent Middle Years Go on the MD Anderson and I Had Experience That in the Care That They Gave You There's so That's First Place I'm Going But There's Other Places in the Country That These Guys These Researchers Shared Information Back and Forth I'm Not Saying That the Dr. Robbie Had 455 Patients of His Own Don't Hate They've Collected This from from Other Clinics or Other Centers of Excellence and Greatest Database and Sharon Research So You Were Patient Number One To Make It to the Five Year Survival Mark and I Did Not See Him in January and Still Go Back Every Year But I Didn't Get Him on the Schedule So the Orthopedic Lady but This December Want to Go Back I Will Make Sure I Have Him on Schedule so I Can Give Him One More Time Right Where the Stats We Also like Me Is There Anybody Else out There That's That Surviving How Are You Doing to Your Cretin The New Elixir Saul Somebody Else's Problem It's Crazy but That's Just like When You Are down to Your Last Dollar You Don't Know How You're Going to Get Out Of the Casino And You Going to Put It on the Table and Hopefully Hit Hard Eight or Something like That so That She Could Buy the The Flight Home That Is Exactly What I Was Thinking throughout the Whole Story Yes They Can Blackjack the Whole Time That's All I Mean That's That's All and Its Outlets Actually It's Craps but so March I Whenever You Talked about the Flights down to Houston This Whole Journey Inspired You to Take up a Completely New Hobby You Still Have Your Other Job Where You Still Deal with the Orthopedists and That's Obviously Something That You've Done Well in Your Own Entrepreneurial Spirit Etc. but You Took up a Completely Different Line of Hobbies And Wanted to Tell Us Little Bit about That Well so the Guy That Runs This Nonprofit Indicator Kept Busting My Chops Marketing Learn How to Fly Needle Half-Life And Off-Line Looks like A Lot Of Fun Theoretically at Coming That Looks, Your Fighter Pilot Doing All That Stuff but When You Actually Watch What They Go through and What They Do and What They Have To Know and Learn I'm the Guy That Wants to Put the Key in the Car and Just Go Right I Don't Know All the Details and All That Other Stuff Is Just One Draft Just Want to Go and Watch Him and All the Stuff That He Does Fine so There's No Way So I Mentioned Earlier That He Wouldn't Take Any of My Money So the Only Way That I Could Give to Him Because What He Gave to Me Didn't You Get Good or Given Which Given I Decided to Volunteer They Do a Charity Bicycle Race Every Year in August a Week or so before Hotter Than Hell And We Have People to Come from All We Had Somebody from Czechoslovakia and Australia with People from All the World That Show up This By Chance And Then End up in Modern Hill in Wichita Falls Which Is Kind of a Cool Ride so These People Arrived in Sandman This Is A Lot Harder And Harder Than Help Is How to Enhance Flat You Have Some Hills to But It's Pretty Good You're Right in the Trees and on the Country and It's a Little Bit Different Anyway so I Volunteer My Time for This Bicycle Rally And of Course He's Given Me the Mark Geller How Fine You Gotta Do All the Stuff in the Next Bobbio He's Cuban But As Names Fob You And We Say Five You Think of Long-Haired Guileless on the Harlequin Romance Books and Stuff up to Another Five Euro Story in a Minute but Anyway so Bobby I'm Not No Money to Do It One of the Ladies That Runs This Kind of Head Pet Dog in Charge of the The Bicycle Really She's a Doctor in Town Jesus: Clients Not like That That's Just Bob You What You Comply with Me and I'll Show You What It's Really like Pilots Live in Decatur It's Not That Big of a City Is Only Five 6000 People Live in Decatur but 74,000 Pilots through the You Think Everybody's Flying Planes Yeah She Gets Me in and Select Jeep Punching the GPS and the Plane Just Takes You There Right Skunk in Your Car except You Gotta Drive Give a Gas and Brake When a Plane You Just We Put in the GPS and It Just Goes I'm Oversimplifying Thi

I Talked to Gorgeous George host of MMA Junkie Radio about the move from Vegas to LA for UFC 232, UFC Lightweight Division, UFC on ESPN + 1, and we gave predictions for UFC 232 PPV Main Card and Prelims Card on FS1.

Blank it, thank it! J.D. Amato (The President Show) returns, in the last episode of our mini series devoted to the filmography of director Ang Lee, to discuss 2016’s high frame rate Iraq War drama, Billy Lynn's Long Halftime Walk. But what makes this movie so revolutionary? What is the evolution of frame rates in film? Who are the shortest and the tallest actors according to IMDB? Together they examine the history of cameras from film to digital, the BIG3 basketball league and never doing an episode on The Happytime Murders. This episode is sponsored by [Away](https://www.awaytravel.com/check) CODE: CHECK, [Brooklinen](https://www.brooklinen.com/) CODE: CHECK and HowStuffWorks’ [The Soundtrack Show](https://www.soundtrackpodcast.com/). For your very own “I Talked the Walk 2018” merch goto [TeePublic](https://www.teepublic.com/stores/blank-check)! On Thursday, look out for our bonus episode on the Ang Lee directed short film [“Chosen”](https://youtu.be/Z6azAviqGvs) part of the BMW film series The Hire and then next week will begin our new mini series on the films of Nancy Meyers! [David Sims’ Billy Lynn's Long Halftime Walk review on the Atlantic](https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2016/11/the-unreality-of-billy-lynns-long-halftime-walk/507449/)

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Hu Geys, Irv. Haves a! Incredibblee tlentd editer,   Makes no sense, does it? That is because no one edits the subtext. Without an editor, Looking neat gets pretty rough. That is all I knew, so I Talked with Lisa Mangum, (Author, Editor and a pretty cool gal) She edits for shadow mountain a publishing company for Thomas S. Monson, Ann Romney, Brandon Mull, and totally other cool people. Because everyone knows about the Author, but the left out part is the editor. Lisa Dumbs Down, The steps, and the duties of editing a best seller.