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On this episode of Gun Talk Nation, Ryan Gresham is joined by Tom Gresham for a wide-ranging discussion about celebrity gun culture, Hollywood's evolving relationship with firearms, and unforgettable stories from African hunts. They dive into everything from Cameron Diaz and Jamie Foxx training with real guns for film roles, to the surprising number of celebrities who secretly love shooting and hunting. Tom also shares thrilling stories from Africa, including a close call with a leopard and a towering cobra encounter. Plus, the Greshams talk gun training realities, common shooter misconceptions, and why professional instruction matters more than ever.This Gun Talk Nation is brought to you by Vortex Optics, Smith & Wesson, Range Ready Studios, Tipton, and Ruger.For more content, subscribe to Gun Talk at guntalktv.com, on Gun Talk's Roku, Apple TV, iOS app, Android app, or find Gun Talk on YouTube, Rumble, Facebook, Instagram, X and guntalk.com. Listen to all Gun Talk Podcasts with Spreaker, iHeart, Apple Podcasts, Spotify or wherever you find podcasts.Copyright ©2025 Freefire Media, LLCGun Talk Nation 03.27.25

(Almost) Everything you wanted to know about guns!Tom Gresham is a nationally-known firearms expert, author and television host. For more than 50 years, Tom has engaged in all forms of print, electronic and online media for more than 50 years. As we say in Show Biz: He's done it all: author, magazine editor and writer, TV host, director and creator, radio show host, and online video producer. His national radio talk show, “Tom Gresham's Gun Talk,” and Substack is heard by millions throughout the U.S. and Canada via radio and podcast. Tom is closely related to his famous father, Grits Gresham.Brian Wilson is a nationally-known radio and television host, author, speaker, and consultant with more than 50 years of experience in media as host, News/Program Director, and Owner. His periodic scribblings can be found on Substack On Facebook, check out Brian's page along with his 50 Stories: 50 Years in Radio page and of course, the Now For Something Completely Different Facebook page. Brian's books can be found on Amazon.Thanks for reading Brian Wilson Writes! This post is public so feel free to share it. Brian Wilson Writes is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. Get full access to Brian Wilson Writes at brianwilsonwrites.substack.com/subscribe

Do you have a hard line regarding your limitations as a shooter/hunter? Tom Gresham and Kevin "KJ" Jarnagin deep dive into what plays a vital role in hunting big critters.Catch Tom on Gun Talk Radio: https://www.guntalk.com/gun-talk-radioThis Gun Talk Hunt is brought to you by Ruger, Range Ready Studios, Silencer Central, Savage Arms, RCBS, Smith & Wesson, Hodgdon Powder, and CZ-USA.For more content, subscribe to Gun Talk at guntalktv.com, on Gun Talk's Roku, Apple TV, iOS app, Android app, or find Gun Talk on YouTube, Rumble, Facebook, Instagram, X, and guntalk.com. Listen to all Gun Talk Podcasts with Spreaker, iHeart, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you find podcasts.Copyright ©2024 Freefire Media, LLCGun Talk Hunt 12.14.24

Gun Talk's Tom Gresham explains the reaction to the attempt on #DonaldTrump #Idaho, and Lars Larson previews the week in politics.

In This Hour: --  Adam Winch, founder of Defenders USA, talks about the physical and mental skills needed to become your own first responder.--  Tom Gresham unpacks lessons from a hasty evacuation from wildfires, and also reveals his harrowing "rescue" of Gun Talk radio gear across a turbulent mini-ocean.--  When can you shoot in self defense? Can you shoot a home intruder who is not threatening you? Gun Talk 09.15.24 Hour 1

In This Hour: -- In the video when President Trump was shot, it looked like a Secret Service Sniper picked up his head while shooting.  What was that about?-- Usually it's Tom teasing a new gun, but today he got surprised by a new Smith & Wesson gun that's not out yet.-- Jim likes his conspiracy theories, so the shooting of Trump is fertile ground.Tom Gresham's Gun Tallk 07.14.24 After Show

In This Hour: -- Roy Huntington, editor and publisher of American Handgunner and Guns magazines, is selling part of his gun collection on Gun Broker.--  Long range handgun shooting isn't that difficult, and it's fun.-- Wondering why the Secret Service assigns short agents to protect Donald Trump.Tom Gresham's Gun Talk 07.14.24 Hour 3

In This Hour:-- Corey Beaudreau announces several new guns from Smith & Wesson, including Carry Comp versions of the M&P pistol.  -- A grandfather helps his granddaughter shoot better by moving the target farther away.-- An Idaho credit union has a part of its terms that blocks members from buying guns and ammo.  It got exposed, changed its terms, but won't reveal where the original wording came from.Tom Gresham's Gun Talk  07.14.24 Hour 2

In This Hour:-- The assassination attempt on President Trump exposed weaknesses in Secret Service practices.-- Enhancing personal safety in the wake of the Trump shooting.-- Wayne Black, security professional who has interacted with the U.S. Secret Service many times, thinks they screwed up ... or worse.Tom Gresham's Gun Talk 07.14.24 Hour 1

Welcome to the Ron Spomer Outdoors Podcast! Ron talks guns with #1 Ranked firearms talk show host Tom Gresham of Gun Talk, including how Tom saved Ron's life.    Affiliate Links - help support the channel at no additional charge to you  Use Code RSO10 at checkout for either Diamond Blade Knives or Knives of Alaska, and get 10% off your first purchase.  https://www.diamondbladeknives.com/  https://www.knivesofalaska.com/Home    Shell Shock  Use code RSO10 at checkout to get 10% off your purchase  Shop Shell Shock: https://alnk.to/6TzzKuj    Links:  Website: https://ronspomeroutdoors.com/  Facebook: ﷟HYPERLINK "https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbHFwVmpvSTg2QjhKU0VnNENHaXhOc1pvQzFSQXxBQ3Jtc0trWERrOXFBSXRhbkZnWldnclZHZ1VvVFdVcEhqZUlWWVVwTnZ0Q1Z0bENYckJDVjh6bmNmYVFncmZxSzV0OU84cXhYb1c2Z3VURmZXcmlxN29Qb0tIVk1UaENmcHRSX1duTmk3N1VfTTVUcFZnV256dw&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fronspomeroutdoors&v=xnxZkd7wauk" / ronspomeroutdoors    Instagram: ﷟HYPERLINK "https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbkZmdTlnSl9qX0JHamx5dl9qb1JqTHphZ2VSd3xBQ3Jtc0tucnV1bWQxbWFUdHVwWXNXcWRoSFEyOTFIQ0lfclJZSHd1MU1vSjJabnl3Y0N6dUxZUlYzTnhfWWhmbkYyYUZBaFhpandYYTV6a29DM0hXdHdLMG43Y3VvLVRONWxXWi1GSkU0Q0xxVGNDMWduMDVvSQ&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.instagram.com%2Fronspomer%2F&v=xnxZkd7wauk" / ronspomer      Who is Ron Spomer  For 44 years I've had the good fortune to photograph and write about my passion – the outdoor life. Wild creatures and wild places have always stirred me – from the first flushing pheasant that frightened me out of my socks in grandpa's cornfield to the last whitetail that dismissed me with a wag of its tail. In my attempts to connect with this natural wonder, to become an integral part of our ecosystem and capture a bit of its mystery, I've photographed, hiked, hunted, birded, and fished across much of this planet. I've seen the beauty that everyone should see, survived adventures that everyone should experience. I may not have climbed the highest mountains, canoed the wildest rivers, caught the largest fish or shot the biggest bucks, but I've tried. Perhaps you have, too. And that's the essential thing. Being out there, an active participant in our outdoor world.    Produced by: Murray Road Agency - https://www.murrayroadagency.com/       Disclaimer  All loading, handloading, gunsmithing, shooting and associated activities and demonstrations depicted in our videos are conducted by trained, certified, professional gun handlers, instructors, and shooters for instructional and entertainment purposes only with emphasis on safety and responsible gun handling. Always check at least 3 industry handloading manuals for handloading data, 2 or 3 online ballistic calculators for ballistic data. Do not modify any cartridge or firearm beyond what the manufacturer recommends. Do not attempt to duplicate, mimic, or replicate anything you see in our videos. Firearms, ammunition, and constituent parts can be extremely dangerous if not used safely.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In This Hour:-- Lee Williams - The Gun Writer -- unwraps the story of the U.S. Surgeon General declaring guns to be a health crisis, doing the work of the gun ban lobby.--  In wars, the 1911 pistol was typically loose and rattled when it was shaken.  Did that make it more reliable?--  A caller describes his process of using a power tool to smooth out the barrel of his pistol.Tom Gresham's Gun Talk 07.07.24 Hour 

In This Hour:-- Ted Nugent celebrates freedom ever day, but has thoughts on the 4th of July.-- Game wardens face dangers regularly.  Tim Flanigan details the challenges he faced in his new book, "Night Killers."-- The new Sig P365 Fuse needed a couple of hundred rounds before it was broken it, but it's a heck of a shooter.Tom Gresham's Gun Talk  07.07.24  Hour 1       

In This Hour:-- Hannah Hill, from National Association For Gun Rights, explains why the Supreme Court did not take the lawsuit challenging Illinois' ban on semi-auto rifles.-- Even if you carry a gun, consider adding pepper spray to your EDC.  Here's why, and how to use it.--  In some states you can carry a firearm into a restaurant that serves alcohol, but should you drink?Tom Gresham's Gun Talk 07.07.24  Hour 3  .

In This Hour:-- Ted Nugent just needs to come out of his shell.-- How to use pepper spray, and why you should have it.--  When cost is no object in building a custom rifle.Tom Gresham's Gun Talk 07.07.24  After Show

In This Hour:--  Why does dry fire practice make you a better shot? How to get the most from it.-- In the consideration for the next Gun Talk firearm, on conversation compares the 10mm carbine and thew .41 or .44 Magnum lever action.-- Why not go with a pistol-caliber carbine?  They are available in 9mm, .45ACP, and even 10mm.Tom Gresham's Gun Talk 06.30.24  After Show

In This Hour:-- On July 4 Louisiana gets Constitutional Carry.  However, there are still good reasons to have a carry permit. Dan Zelenka from the Louisiana Shooting Association explains why.--  Gun Free School Zones may be the sneaky trap that can put you in prison, even when you try to obey the law.--  What should you be working on when you practice dry firing? The critical role of follow-through.Tom Gresham's Gun Talk   06.30.24  Hour 3

In This Hour:--  Beloved firearms trainer Tiger McKee's guns are to be sold at aucton.  Dwight Van Brunt explains how it work. The Gunbroker auction will be held here: https://tinyurl.com/njffrybm-- Whether it's the .460 Roland of the .450 SMC, you can shoot a "magnum" cartridge in your .45ACP 1911 pistol.-- If you were to prepare for widespread terrorist attacks or civil unrest, how would you start?  Guns, first aid, and having a plan.Tom Gresham's Gun Talk 06.30.24  Hour 2

In This Hour:-- While the televised debate between Trump and Biden was a disaster for the President, it was telling there were no questions about guns and gun control.-- The U.S. Surgeon General launched a new initive calling for treating guns as a health crisis.  Dr. John Edeen of Doctors For Responsible Gun Ownership details the history of this movement, and its dishonest approach to back-door gun bans.-- Sigsaur releases the latest variation of its popular P365 line.  The P365 Fuse is larger and has much more ammo capacity.  But what is it good for?Tom Gresham's Gun Talk 06.30.24  Hour 1

How an Iowa startup rocketed to a global powerhouse.Two firearms industry legends meet, as Gun Talk's Tom Gresham sits down with Pete Brownell, CEO of Brownells, to commemorate the 85th anniversary of the heralded family-owned firearms supply company.The conversation covers the company's history, starting with Pete's grandfather, Bob Brownell, who founded it in 1939. Initially a home gunsmith and NRA writer, Bob responded to a growing demand for firearm parts and tools, significantly impacting the industry with his "Encyclopedia of Modern Firearms."Brownells has grown from its humble beginnings to become a global leader, adhering to values of quality, customer service, and a deep understanding of gunsmithing needs. Pete emphasizes the company's culture of collaboration and personal relationships, reflecting their customer-first philosophy. Initiatives like "Back to the Lodge" foster a supportive community among employees.Celebrate 85 years of with 15% Off all Brownells products: https://snp.link/644feaa5Pete also shares his own journey, working in the construction industry and Silicon Valley before joining Brownells. His experiences taught him leadership and modern business practices, which he brought back to the family business. He also talks about his passion for mountain climbing and an upcoming expedition to Kilimanjaro with veterans, aiming to inspire resilience and recovery.Brownells has expanded into selling complete firearms, with a focus on their acclaimed BRN line. Looking ahead, Pete and his company plan to enhance the customer experience with better information and to explore new markets like preparedness and survival gear.Throughout the interview, Pete's respect for his family's legacy and commitment to innovation and customer service are evident. The conversation highlights Brownells' evolution while maintaining its foundational values, ensuring its continued success and relevance in the firearms industry.Learn more about Brownells here: https://snp.link/9fc0ef7aTom Gresham is the host of Gun Talk Radio, the original national radio show about guns and gun-related topics, and is celebrating its 29th year. Gun Talk runs on nearly 300 stations weekly across the U.S. and is also available as a podcast - accessible wherever you find your podcasts.Learn more about Gun Talk Radio here: https://www.guntalk.com/gun-talk-radioFollow Tom Gresham on X here: https://x.com/guntalkFor more content, subscribe to Gun Talk at guntalktv.com, on Gun Talk's Roku, Apple TV, iOS app, Android app, or find Gun Talk on YouTube, Facebook, Instagram, X and guntalk.com. Listen to all Gun Talk Podcasts with Spreaker, iHeart, Apple Podcasts, Spotify or wherever you find podcasts.Copyright ©2024 Freefire Media, LLC

-- The aftermath of the Supreme Court Decison on bump stocks.-- Was that a "seminar caller" on Gun Talk Radio today?-- Modifying a strange and older pistol.Tom Gresham's Gun Talk 06.23.24 After Show 

-- Alan Gottlieb of the Second Amendment Foundation explains that the Rahimi decision from the Supreme Court is not the loss to gun righgs the media is reporting.-- He went into the store to get a 9mm, but he came out with a 10mm.-- Reduce recoil for better shooting.  Here's one way how. Tom Gresham's Gun Talk  06.23.24 Hour 3

-- The ideal home defense gun might be a short barrel AR-15 with a silencer. Now that wait times for the NFA tax stamp is shorter, many are considering buying an SBR.-- The inside story on making an AR-15 rifle run well.-- A story in a Dallas newspaper is typical of dishonest reporting, or more correctly, propaganda.Tom Gresham's Gun Talk 06.23.24 Hour 2 

-- The Supreme Court decision on bump stocks go far beyond guns.  Michael Cargill expains how it will affect all federal agencies.-- Combine manufacturing in Washington State, Florida and Wyoming and you get barrels, receivers, rifles and silencers.  Ryan Donahue of Stag Arms pulls it together.-- Tom hints at new pistols to be introduced over the next few weeks.  Tom Gresham's Gun Talk 06.23.24  Hour 1

In This Hour: -- Gun Talk goes live in Boise, which reminds us all to say thanks to the stations carrying the show. -- Why does it cost so much to have a gun blued? What's involved in the process? -- Pete Brownell's outreach to wounded special forces vets and the reminder that each of us can do something to help. Tom Gresham's Gun Talk 06.09.24  After Show

In This Hour: -- Ron Spomer and Tom Gresham remember Melvin Forbes, who created the ground-breaking Ultra Light Arms lightweight hunting rifles. -- A forgotten gem, the .284 Winchester rifle cartridge remains one of the best. --  Shooting competitions for youngsters stretch across the country.  They are a great way for adults to volunteer to support the sport. Tom Gresham's Gun Talk 06.09.24  Hour 3

In This Hour: -- Pete Brownell, CEO of Brownells, talks about the early days of this supplier of tools, parts, and everything for guns, as the company turns 85. -- A mission to help special forces veterans heads to Tanzania to climb Mount Kilimanjaro.    --  He looked for this rifle for 45 years, and then there it was at a gun show.  A lesson about grabbing the gun you want when you see it. Tom Gresham's Gun Talk 06.09.24  Hour 2

In This Hour: -- 2000 students participate in a trap shooting event in New York, and no one was injured! -- Is the AR-15 really a useful firearm for personal protection? -- Yes, you can sell your gun legally.  Here's how and where. Tom Gresham's Gun Talk 06.09.24  Hour 2

In This Hour: --  The U.S. Supreme Court brings in a 9-0 decision in favor of the NRA.  Chuck Michel of the California Rifle and Pistol Association explains how that happened. --  Just as an exercise to help people understand it, Tom decided to rewrite the Second Amendment. -- Taking on the Rattle Battle challenge to get better at shooting. Tom Gresham's Gun Talk  06.02.24 Hour 2

In This Hour: -- Doug Hamlin, the new Executive Vice President of the NRA, explains his plans to revive the Second Amendment group. --  Why do most shooting schools ban shoulder holsters, and should that make you look for a different way to carry? --  Callers weigh in on the promised changes at the NRA.  Many seem skeptical.   Tom Gresham's Gun Talk 06.02.24 Hour 1

In This Hour: -- A  liberal college professor looks into gun ownership and becomes a gun owner himself. David Yamane explains in his new book, "Gun Curious." --  Donald Trump was convicted on 34 felony counts.  Should gun owners still vote for him? --  Carrying a gun for protection involves more than most people realize. Tom explains just a few things to think about. Tom Gresham's Gun Talk  06.02.24  Hour 3

In This Hour: --  A reform slate takes over the National Rifle Association, but is it too late to save the organization? --  The U.S. Supreme Court declines to hear a case banning semi-autos, but it's probably just a temporary delay. --  Tom tries out precision .22 rimfire competition.  It's harder than it looks! Tom Gresham's Gun Talk  05.26.24  Hour 1

In This Hour: --  One way to remember the sacrifices made by veterans is to visit war museums. The WWI Museum in Kansas City and the WWII Museum in New Orleans are great places to start. --  There is no better, and no more fun way, to practice shooting then with a .22 rimfire firearm.  --  Save shipping and hazmat fees by buying ammo and powder locally. Tom Gresham's Gun Talk  05.26.24 After Show

In This Hour: --  How to cannonballs work?  What makes them explode? --  What does it mean to "cowitness" a red dot sight, and is it necessary? --  Congress reviews recent ATF abuses. Tom Gresham's Gun Talk 05.26.24 Hour 3

In This Hour: --  Mike McCoy at the Mountain States Legal Foundation unpacks the lawsuit challenging gun restrictions in New Mexico. --  Did Alec Baldwin actually fire that gun on the set? --  Is appendix carry safe?  Why does it make people nervous? Tom Gresham's Gun Talk 05.26.24  Hour 2

In This Hour: -- LIVE from the Ruger booth at the 2024 NRA Annual Meetings in Dallas, Gun Talk Radio delivers the latest news in products and Second Amendment advances. -- For its 75th anniversary, Ruger offers several commemorative guns.  RG Stitt runs them down for Gun Talk. -- Making a great rifle even better, Timney Trigger adds a new model for the Ruger American Gen 2 rifle.  Chris Ellis talks triggers, turkey hunter, and squirrels. Tom Gresham's Gun Talk 05.19.24  Hour 1

In This Hour: -- Eric Lundgren reveals the latest from Marlin, and hints at what's to come. -- Sig Sauer just keeps bringing out new versions of the P320 and P365 pistols.  Phil Strader unveils the latest. -- At the NRA Show, Franklin Armory announces a new trigger.   Dan Dement tells what it is and what it does. Tom Gresham's Gun Talk 05.19.24  Hour 2

In This Hour: -- Mitch Hulsey of Barrett Firearms announces the return of the REC 7 rifle. -- Meprolight's war-tested lights for defensive uses.  Bill Yerby explains the company's products. -- How much accuracy do you really need? Tom Gresham's Gun Talk 05.19.24  Hour 3

In This Hour: REBROADCAST --  Fun targets.  Playing Battleship at the range. --  Should you shoot a highly-collectable firearm? --  Resident shoots a naked man who broke through the wall of his apartment. Tom Gresham's Gun Talk 05.12.24 Hour 3

In This Hour: REBROADCAST -- What's behind the rapid growth of precision and long range rimfire shooting competitions? -- Paul Parrot explains how Vudoo Gun Works makes super-accurate .22 rifles. -- Would you carry a $3000 pistol for protection?  Tom Gresham's Gun Talk 05.12.24  Hour 2

In This Hour: REBROADCAST -- AWR Hawkins counts down the most important gun rights stories of the year.  --  It might sound crazy, but is a .22 rimfire rifle suitable for home defense? --  Is the Supreme Court avoiding taking an "assault weapon" case? Tom Gresham's Gun Talk  05.12.24  Hour 1

In This Hour: --  The case for, or again, open carry. --  What advantages or liabilities come with using specialty ammo in your carry gun? --  Are gun prices falling?  Should you buy now? Tom Gresham's Gun Talk 05.05.24 After Show

In This Hour: -- Novelist Kurt Schlichter explains why he imagines mass terrorist attacks in the U.S. and why he built his newest book, "The Attack," around that frightening concept. -- Sam Parades of Gun Owners of America reveals details of that group's latest gun rights lawsuit headed to the Supreme Court. -- More power for personal protection handguns?  10mm versus 9mm versus specialty ammunition. Tom Gresham's Gun Talk  05.05.24  Hour 3

In This Hour: --  Can a collection of gun parts be called a gun?  The Firearms Policy Coalition has pushed that case before the Supreme Court. Cody Wisnewski explains what's at stake for all gun owners. -- How can you run afoul of gun laws while trying to stay in compliance? It's easy, as Cam Edwards explains. --  Do Wall Street investors force companies to dump the parts that make and sell guns and ammunition? Tom Gresham's Gun Talk  05.05.24  Hour 2

In This Hour: -- Hodgdon, the major gun powder company in the U.S., buys RCBS, the leading maker of reloading equipment. Aaron Olger tells how that sale came about. -- The slate of reform candidates all were elected to the NRA Board of Directors. Jeff Knox explains what happens now, and guesses about the chances of saving the gun rights group. -- A rancher protects his newborn calves from coyotes with a bolt-action rifle in .223 Remington. Tom Gresham's Gun Talk 05.05.24 Hour 1

Gun Talk's own Tom Gresham - of Gun Talk Radio - sits down with host Ryan Gresham for this episode of Gun Talk Nation. In a wide-ranging discussion, two generations cover the humble origins of Gun Talk Media, the growth of Gun Talk's Range Ready Studios, the importance of mindset, why quality film equipment matters and so much more. Tom Gresham's Gun Talk Radio is currently in its 29th season. Learn more: https://www.guntalk.com/gun-talk-radio This Gun Talk Nation is brought to you by SDS Imports, SecureIt, Ruger, Range Ready, Stag Arms and Aero Precision. Copyright ©2024 Freefire Media, LLC Gun Talk Nation 05.02.24

In This Hour: -- What makes the shotgun such a good home defense weapon? Ken Campbell, from Gunsite Academy, counts the reasons. -- South Dakota Governor Kristi Noem writes about shooting dog, and probably takes herself out of consideration for the Vice President slot. -- It's essential to check your bags for ammunition before flying on the airlines.  At least one tourist who forgot he had a few rounds of hunting ammo in his bag is facing a possible 12 years in prison. Tom Gresham's Gun Talk 04.28.24  Hour 2

In This Hour: --  The Mossberg is a handful, but there are ways to tame the recoil and enhance the aiming options. --  He sees an orange color in the barrel, but it won't scrub out.  Is that rust, or is it something else? --  The hunt continues for the GT30 gun to mark 30 years on the air. Tom Gresham's Gun Talk 04.28.24  After Show

In This Hour: --  World Champion shooter Max Michel why he doesn't start shooting right away when he gets to the range. --  Is the old idea of using rock salt in a shotgun load for defense a good plan? --  States are banning credit card companies from tracking gun purchases with merchant codes. Tom Gresham's Gun Talk  04.28.24  Hour 3

In This Hour: --  Most .22 rimfire ammunition is inexpensive, but not the highly-accurate match ammo. --  The Biden administration continues to support banning marijuana users from owning guns. --  Pepper spray should be considered by anyone wanting personal protection. Tom Gresham's Gun Talk 04.21.24  After Show

In This Hour: -- Why do some gun stores and trainers support restrictions on gun rights? David Codrea has some ideas. -- News stories about people who screwed up and used guns when they shouldn't have.  Unfortunate examples of the need for training. -- You simply shoot better with guns that have less recoil. Tom Gresham's Gun Talk 04.21.24 Hour 2