Podcast appearances and mentions of michelle kim

We love to hear from our listeners. Send us a message. In close partnership woth Johns Hopkins and TriLink BioTechnologies, Jeff Coller, Ph.D. and Michelle Kim, Ph.D. have built a sandbox for RNA developers and aspirational RNA business builders to play in. On this week's episode of the Business of Biotech, we team up once again with Advancing RNA's Anna Rose Welch to learn about the venture, dubbed the Johns Hopkins University RNA Innovation Center. Anna Rose and I query Drs. Coller and Kim on how the Center came to be, what it has to offer, and how early-stage RNA explorers can benefit from the resource. Access this and hundreds of episodes of the Business of Biotech videocast under the Listen & Watch tab at bioprocessonline.com. Subscribe to our monthly Business of Biotech newsletter. Get in touch with guest and topic suggestions: matt.pillar@lifescienceconnect.comFind Matt Pillar on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthewpillar/

** Originally published on February 15, 2023 **Here's a star replay episode, another one of my favorites! Apparently, it's one of yours too - as one of the most downloaded episodes so far. Michelle does an amazing job walking through all things Operations for GTM. What should we cover next on the show? DM me, comment, or write a review to share feedback. I appreciate you! - Jane--In this episode of "Women in B2B Marketing," host Jane Serra sits down with Michelle Kim, former Director of Sales Operations at Zendesk (now Senior Director, Sales & Customer Success Operations at Culture Amp). Michelle shares her career journey from sales to customer success operations and her current role in sales ops. The discussion highlights the distinctions between sales operations and revenue operations (rev ops), emphasizing the importance of communication and collaboration among sales, marketing, and customer success teams. Michelle also discusses challenges in forecasting, the balance between data and human elements, and offers advice for those new to operations. The episode provides valuable insights for marketing professionals aiming to enhance operational efficiency.Michelle talks us through:Her professional journey from sales to customer success operations and sales operations.The distinction between sales operations and revenue operations (rev ops).The importance of communication and collaboration among sales, marketing, and customer success teams.Responsibilities and strategies involved in sales operations, including territory management and forecasting.The debate between centralized and decentralized operations models.Challenges in achieving accurate forecasting in a fluctuating economy.The significance of research and understanding existing processes in operations roles.Balancing data-driven decision-making with the human element in operations.Motivating team members by understanding individual motivations and aligning them with business objectives.Advice for individuals new to operations on self-management and identifying operationally inclined team members.Key Links:Guest: Michelle Kim: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michellejykim/Host: Jane Serra: https://www.linkedin.com/in/janeserra/ Mentioned in this episode:Women in Revenue community: https://womeninrevenue.org/The amazing Sydney Sloan (future WIB2BM guest!): https://www.linkedin.com/in/sydsloan/Dimitri Tamparopoulos: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dimitri-tamparopoulos/[Book Reco] How Women Rise: https://www.howwomenrise.com/Michelle's Podcast Recommendations:The Revenue Engine: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-revenue-engine/id1554168319UnapologeTECH: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/unapologetech/id1526386752Permission to Speak:

**Note from Jane** This week, it felt wrong to publish a typical marketing-focused episode, with a big election on many of our minds. So somehow, last minute, we gathered this amazing group of women leaders to talk about how they're handling this emotional time with their teams. I hope our conversation provides guidance, camaraderie, and a little hope during tumultuous times. - Jane ---In this special roundtable episode of "Women in B2B Marketing," host Jane Serra leads a discussion with 5 fellow women leaders in GTM on navigating the workplace during the emotionally charged 2024 U.S. Presidential election. The panel includes Anne Pao, Michelle Kim, Sarah Reese, Meg Thomman, and Purna Virji, who share insights on fostering a supportive work environment. They emphasize empathy, open communication, and mental health awareness, drawing from personal experiences, particularly from the 2016 election. The conversation also touches on handling political discussions professionally, advocating for respect and understanding.Together, this group discusses:The impact of the 2024 election on workplace dynamics.Emotional toll of significant events like elections on employees.Importance of empathy and vulnerability in leadership.Strategies for creating a supportive work environment during stressful times.Normalizing conversations about mental health in the workplace.Navigating political discussions and differing beliefs in a professional setting.Balancing personal and professional identities regarding political views.Encouraging open communication and validation of feelings among team members.Practical strategies for supporting employees during election day, such as flexible schedules.Fostering a culture of respect and understanding in diverse workplaces.Key Links:Guests: Anne Pao - Founder & CEO of Ignite Consulting - https://www.linkedin.com/in/annepao/Michelle Kim - Entrepreneur, 3x VP Marketing - https://www.linkedin.com/in/michellejeankim/Sarah Reece - Director of Demand Gen @ Orum - https://www.linkedin.com/in/sbethreece/Purna Virji - Principle Consultant, Content Solutions @ Linkedin- https://www.linkedin.com/in/purnavirji/Meg Thomann - Communications Director @ Wedgewood Pharmacy- https://www.linkedin.com/in/meg-thomann/Host: Jane Serra: https://www.linkedin.com/in/janeserra/ Book Recommendation:Difficult Conversations - https://www.amazon.com/Difficult-Conversations-Discuss-What-Matters/dp/0143118447

Sue Yom, Editor-in-Chief, co-hosts with Dr. Michelle Kim, Professor and Co-Chair of the Cancer Center's Neuro-Oncology Clinical Research Team at the University of Michigan, and our journal's section lead for the CNS section. Our guests are Dr. Joshua Palmer, Associate Professor at Ohio State University and supervising author on the article, Dose/volume tolerance of the brain and predictors of radiation necrosis after three fraction radiosurgery for brain metastases: A large single-institutional analysis, and Dr. Arjun Sahgal, Chair and Professor at the Odette Cancer Centre of the Sunnybrook Health Sciences Centre, and supervising author on the article, Systematic Review Informing The Management of Symptomatic Brain Radiation Necrosis after Stereotactic Radiosurgery and International Stereotactic Radiosurgery Society (ISRS) Recommendations.

The oddness of mood boards, some back-to-school content, and one heck of a food journey, featuring international ice cream, dream potato-chip collaborations, and dip delicacies worth dealing with baggage claim. Buckle in! Erica loves Word. notebooks, and Claire is all about the MochiThings checklist ones. Some foods discussed: Magnum Double Starchaser, Jon and Vinny's house salad, the 40 Aprons creamy clam dip recipe, Tenayo bean dip, Brothers Products black bean chipotle hummus, NYT's vegan onion dip recipe, and Gwyneth's black bean recipe.This AIGA Eye on Design story by Elizabeth Goodspeed had us reconsidering the mood board. Decoupage! Some of our favorite pieces are ones by Michelle Kim (see also: Kneeland Co.), John Derian, Joseph Heidecker, and Quintana Partners. See also: all the good stuff on Chairish. And, PSA: Mod Podge makes dishwasher-safe gloss and has incredible branding in general.Share how you do your to-do lists with us at 833-632-5463, podcast@athingortwohq.com, or @athingortwohq—or join our Geneva!This episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct, or indirect financial interest in products, or services referred to in this episode.Try professional counseling from BetterHelp and take 10% off your first month with our link.Discover so many more natural diamond truths at naturaldiamonds.com/thankyou.Find wellness on your next stay at Westin.Embrace BTS season with an MBA from The Georgia Tech Scheller College of Business.Start hiring now with a $75 sponsored-job credit to upgrade your job post at Indeed.YAY.Produced by Dear MediaSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

We have a VERY special guest this week! Michelle Kim, AKA Evelyn Kwong, reunites with the gang to relive their awkward teen years, catch up on life since Ned's, and to go deep about the reason she stepped away from acting. They share stories about a dodgeball game gone wrong, Cookie & Evelyn's first kiss, Asian American representation, and how Michelle let go of her identity in acting. Which co-star was Daniel's first kiss? How did Mulan inspire Michelle to get back into acting after Ned's? What did Michelle think about being on the iCarly reboot? Get ready to heal your inner child with this heartwarming episode. Follow @NedsDeclassifiedPod on Instagram & Facebook, and @NedsPod on TikTok. Want access to weekly bonus videos, exclusive behind-the-scenes content and more? Join our Patreon now at patreon.com/NedsPod. Shop Ned's Pod merch at https://fanjoy.co/collections/neds. Disclaimer: This content was produced prior to the recent SAG-AFTRA strike authorization. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

We have a VERY special guest this week! Michelle Kim, AKA Evelyn Kwong, reunites with the gang to relive their awkward teen years, catch up on life since Ned's, and to go deep about the reason she stepped away from acting. They share stories about a dodgeball game gone wrong, Cookie & Evelyn's first kiss, Asian American representation, and how Michelle let go of her identity in acting. Which co-star was Daniel's first kiss? How did Mulan inspire Michelle to get back into acting after Ned's? What did Michelle think about being on the iCarly reboot? Get ready to heal your inner child with this heartwarming episode. Follow @NedsDeclassifiedPod on Instagram & Facebook, and @NedsPod on TikTok. Want access to weekly bonus videos, exclusive behind-the-scenes content and more? Join our Patreon now at patreon.com/NedsPod. Shop Ned's Pod merch at https://fanjoy.co/collections/neds. Disclaimer: This content was produced prior to the recent SAG-AFTRA strike authorization. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dr. Michelle Kim is Chair of Cleveland Clinic's Department of Gastroenterology, Hepatology, and Nutrition. She joins this episode of Butts & Guts to discuss neuroendocrine tumors. Listen to learn more about what causes neuroendocrine tumors, how they are diagnosed and treated, and other important information about this disease.

The creatives at VideoAmp are risk takers — game changers. They have a level of ambition and drive that can't be bought or taught, and it's driving innovation throughout the industry.On this episode of Best Story Wins, we speak with Michelle Kim, Vice President of Brand Design at VideoAmp. According to Michelle, the secret to cutting-edge culture is brand storytelling and company-wide alignment. From carefully tailoring the onboarding process to ensuring open avenues of honest communication, Michelle dives into what it takes to build an impactful brand story from the inside out.Join us as we discuss:How to define your brand story and what storytelling really meansEmpowering your team to show up with purposeWhat volatile times mean for innovation prioritization

There's a lot of chatter around RevOps lately, so Michelle joins us to talk through the world of Revenue Operations - from Sales through Customer Success and Marketing. What makes each and every Ops team work more efficiently and ultimately drive more revenue for B2B brands?Michelle talks us through:Keeping the revenue engine running smoothlyThe #1 skill for a successful RevOps professionalDifferent org structures: centralized vs decentralized RevOpsForecast accuracy - how this has changed over the last few years, and how Michelle's team has achieved 1-5% forecast accuracy (wow!)How revenue operations can differ at smaller brands vs more mature, enterprise brands The importance of a "Secondment" - or job rotation, or an internal internship - gaining exposure to different teams within your oganizationKey Links:Guest: Michelle Kim: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michellejykim/Host: Jane Serra: https://www.linkedin.com/in/janeserra/ Mentioned in this episode:Women in Revenue community: https://womeninrevenue.org/The amazing Sydney Sloan (future WIB2BM guest!): https://www.linkedin.com/in/sydsloan/Dimitri Tamparopoulos: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dimitri-tamparopoulos/[Book Reco] How Women Rise: https://www.howwomenrise.com/Michelle's Podcast Recommendations:The Revenue Engine: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-revenue-engine/id1554168319UnapologeTECH: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/unapologetech/id1526386752Permission to Speak: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/permission-to-speak/id1491356006Dear Asian Americans: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/dear-asian-americans/id1500293933Speak as a Leader: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/speak-as-a-leader/id1647699850Asian Hustle Network: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/asian-hustle-network/id1520338573The Tao of Self-Confidence: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-tao-of-self-confidence/id1035011998You Are The Brand: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/you-are-the-brand/id828811790

The recent surge of psychedelic research has sparked a growing interest in psychedelic-assisted therapy using psilocybin to treat various mental health conditions including addiction. In this episode, Trauma Report writer Michelle Kim discusses this approach in detail with Dr. Albert Garcia-Romeu from the Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine at the Center for Psychedelic & Consciousness Research. Dr. Garcia-Romeu works in the Behavioral Pharmacology Research Unit at the Department of Psychiatry and Behavioral Sciences, and is also a Guest Researcher at the National Institute on Drug Abuse Intramural Neuroimaging. Tune into our podcast to learn more about the therapeutic potential of psilocybin for addiction treatment.

This week's chapel speaker was Dr. Michelle Kim. Dr. Kim is Associate Professor of Engineering at John Brown University.

On this week's episode, Jovin interviewed Dr. Michelle Kim who is a current fellow at Saint Joseph's University (SJU) with Janssen Pharmaceuticals. Please tune in to hear about her experience as a current fellow, the unique experiences SJU provides compared to other fellowships, and why you should apply TODAY to be a fellow at SJU! Resources talked about during this episode: - Apply to Saint Joseph's University fellowship now at www.sju.edu/pharmafellows - Please feel free to contact current fellows if you have any questions at the following email: pharmafellows@sju.edu - Feel free to contact Dr. Michelle Kim if you have any further questions on her LinkedIn profile.

AMDG.  If we made a list of FAQs about the Kolbe curriculum, the top question would likely be why Kolbe begins high school with Greek history, literature, and philosophy.  Today's episode explores that question through a roundtable discussion with some of our resident experts: Kolbe history chair Therese Prudlo, philosophy professor Dr. Don Prudlo, former college philosophy professor and current Kolbe instructor Dr. Carl Hasler, and Kolbe literature teacher Michelle Kim.  Highlights of the conversation include how early Christian thinkers had to appeal to the Greek intellect, how a classical education combats the American tendency toward collective forgetfulness, and how students find themselves enthralled by and eager to engage with primary sources despite the time gap between Ancient Greece and Generation Z. Related Kolbecast episodes 102 A Great Commission featuring the 2022 graduation speeches, Ms. Ellen Finnigan's among them 60 Mission: Possible 17 Secure to Explore 26 Truth in Person This is Day 3 of the 2022 Kolbecast Convention. Listen here to Day 1 with Dr. George Harne or Day 2 with Matt and Erin Ingold of Metanoia Catholic. The Kolbecast has covered a lot of ground in its 100+ episodes. Our website's new filters make it easy to find episodes organized by topic. Head to Kolbe.org/podcast and scroll down to choose episodes on a particular subject or to see the entire catalog of episodes. Check out Michelle Kim's opening talk and prayer at Kolbe's recent Open House. Members of our panel today can be heard on these other Kolbecast episodes: 15 Asparagus Moments, 36 Embrace the Fifth Day and 37 Take a Moment with Therese Prudlo 64 Stricken by Ideas with Dr. Carl Hasler and Therese Prudlo 39 Reclaiming the Territory, 40 Windshield Time, and 78 The Kolbe Man Show with Dr. Don Prudlo 93 Good Thinking with Dr. Carl Hasler and students 70 First Draft: A Parent In-Service, 87 Home Base, and 94 A Boy, a Book, and a Library Mouse with Michelle Kim Subscribe to the Kolbecast in your favorite podcast app and never miss an episode. If you have a moment to leave a ratings and review, that will help the Kolbecast reach more listeners. Have a suggestion or question for the Kolbecast team? Write to us at podcast@kolbe.org. Interested in Kolbe Academy's offerings? Visit kolbe.org.

Throughout the past few years, many have awakened to the external forces of injustice. But what if the key to making a lasting impact involved waking up to your own capacity to transform? In this conversation with Michelle MiJung Kim (she/her), a longtime activist & author, we discuss the real work of justice and how it involves going beyond just recognizing what's wrong. We tackle Anti-Asian hate, solidarity between Asian and Black communities, and the importance of the collective in the pursuit of justice. We also discuss her four-part framework that frees justice-seekers up to chart their own paths, and what's not ours to carry on this journey as we are continuously caring for ourselves. Find Dani on social media: www.facebook.com/ohhappydani www.instagram.com/ohhappydani www.twitter.com/ohhappydani Find Michelle MiJung Kim on social media: www.instagram.com/michellekimkim www.twitter.com/mjmichellekim https://www.linkedin.com/in/mjmichellekim/ Find the podcast on social media: www.instagram.com/fortheultimategood Grab artwork for the heart and home at www.ohhappydani.com Reach out about the podcast to admin@ohhappydani.com For the Ultimate Good is produced by Lovely House Media.

AMDG.  The one area of life where gravity doesn't quite apply is head knowledge and heart knowledge—in formation, even for young children, the heart is the most important piece.  Today Joan Claire FitzPatrick, Jamie Leatherby, and Michelle Kim join Bonnie and Steven to discuss how Catechesis of the Good Shepherd uses beauty and child-led engagement to bring children to God.  The ladies explain how CGS uses an “atrium” as part of its approach for children to gain discipline in their bodies while learning to care for themselves and their environment.  They illustrate the theological and historical significance of the program and the goal of evoking joy and peace.  And if all of this sounds a bit unattainable or precious, fear not: they also touch on ways to take stress off parents and make the program fit your family. Relevant links: For more information about this program, visit the Catechesis of the Good Shepherd website. A is for Altar, B is for Bible by Judith Lang Main Michelle can be heard on Kolbecast episode #70 First Draft: A Parent In-Service with Chrissy Almanzar and on episode #87 Home Base with fellow homeroom instructors Kim Crawford, Jenni Mammola, and Brittany Doucette. Joan Claire and Jamie were instrumental in the success of the 2022 Vocations Retreat, selected sessions of which are available here. Look for the Kolbecast in your favorite podcast app, where you can subscribe and never miss an episode. If you have a moment to leave a rating and review, that will help the Kolbecast reach more listeners. Have a suggestion or question for the Kolbecast team? Write to us at podcast@kolbe.org. Interested in Kolbe Academy's offerings? Visit kolbe.org.   

Williams Sonoma is one of those brands that I would consider a pillar in the hospitality industry. They are known for their quality and their cutting edge design, but most of all I know them for the products that have filled my wish list holiday after holiday, year after year. Through their seasonal collections, they welcome designers to curate lines that breathe fresh, unique aesthetic into their serveware collections. Michelle Kim, a fashion designer based in LA, brings her maximalist style with mismatched patterns that share her unique story to Williams Sonoma in their newest spring collection. While I was ecstatic to learn more about the line, I also was itching to know the story that led her to…here! Michelle shares her unique journey to this launch, walking us through: Her memories of exploring fashion through her dad's garment factory as a kid.The process of overcoming her own self doubt and imposter syndrome on her road to becoming a creative.How to craft our own personal style and why it matters.Her passion for animal rescue and how to get involved.Of course, everything you need to know about how to get the collection.Whether you are looking for a pattern to add character to a traditional table or you are looking to add to your pattern rich collection, Michelle Kim's Williams Sonoma new line fits every table! Find her full collection and get your own pieces here! Follow Michelle's Journey on Instagram @moremkimReady to try Gobble 15 Minute Meal Kits delivered straight to you door? Use this link to get 3 Meal kits (6 Meals!) for only $36!

This episode was an IG Live interview that I did with my good friend and AH-MAZING coach, Michelle Kim @thecosmicmentor.Michelle always knew that she noticed and experienced things differently from others, but she kept it hidden as she grew up in a strict S. Korean, religious family. She tells us how she finally followed her intuition and Spirit Guides, left her high-flying corporate job in HR, and is now aligned with her path doing what she loves - coaching. (Note: my voice and laughter is pretty loud compared to Michelle's - I was a lot closer to my microphone! Don't say I didn't warn you!)

AMDG. As enrollment season arrives, we're taking a look at the opportunities Kolbe Academy middle and high school students have to take homeroom, a course that's come a long way since it was first offered and now combines opportunities for academic support, community, and personalized guidance from Kolbe's devoted, resourceful teachers. This episode features four of those marvelous homeroom instructors – Kim Crawford, Brittany Doucette, Michelle Kim, and Jenni Mammola – and offers a glimpse into their clever, compassionate approach to providing a home base for Kolbe middle and high school students regardless of how many courses the students take online. We also hear about the bonds that have been forged through the homeroom courses and how families can connect with each other outside of class. Links mentioned and helpful: School-wide address with announcements about the 2022-23 school year Sign up for Shadow Week starting March 7, 2022 2022-23 Summer Courses How to connect with other Kolbe families (for enrolled families only) Kolbe Admission Events related Kolbecast episodes: Ep 3 Dramatic Arts with Dolores Mihaliak Ep 33 Show Your Work with Kelly Powers Ep 46 Language Lab with Jenni Mammola Ep 49 Revealed through Story with Joseph Pearce Ep 53 Through a Catholic Lens, Kim Crawford's Kolbecast debut, and Ep 66 Bonhomie à la Kolbe with Kim and Kolbe advisor Ashley Massey Ep 50 Cast Party Ep 60 Mission: Possible with tenth grader Xavier on the 9th grade year Ep 61 Middle Ground with middle school teachers Alex Pischke and Amanda Hayes Ep 70: First Draft: A Parent In-Service featuring Michelle Kim along with Chrissy Almanzar & Erica Treat Ep 76 Study Buddies with Jenni Mammola and officers of Kolbe's National Honor Society chapter Subscribe to the Kolbecast in your favorite podcast app and never miss an episode! Have a suggestion or question for the Kolbecast team? Write to us at podcast@kolbe.org. Interested in Kolbe Academy's offerings? Visit kolbe.org.      

AMDG. We talk a lot on the podcast about the importance of eloquence for people regardless of whether they're in the liberal arts, STEM, or other professions. With that in mind, writing is an important part of the Kolbe curriculum across subject areas in keeping with principles of Ignatian pedagogy that listeners can learn more about on the Kolbe blog (see below). So how do we develop that art on a day-to-day basis? Bonnie and guest co-host Erica Treat (a Kolbe advisor and friend of the Kolbecast) endeavor to answer that today with the help of Kolbe instructors Chrissy Almanzar and Michelle Kim. We also hear more about Kolbe's Homeschool Plus and Self-Paced Plus programs and get a preview of the Kolbe Academy Virtual College Fair on Friday, October 29, 2021.  Kolbe Academy blog posts referenced:  The Basics of Ignatian Pedagogy and subsequent posts in a six-part series by Stacey Jarzynka  ‘Mottoes' by Willa Ryan   Sign up here for Kolbe's Virtual College Fair on October 29, 2021. Check out this blog post for how to prepare for the day. Related Kolbecast episodes include   Ep 38: Substance Matters with CLT Founder Jeremy Tate  Ep 40: Windshield Time with Dr. Donald Prudlo of the University of Tulsa  Ep 59: The Secret Whiteboard with Everett Buyarski and Erica Treat  For more information about Kolbe's career planning services or to connect with an advisor, click here. Kolbe is proud to partner with a number of authentically Catholic colleges and universities to aid in the post-secondary school discernment process.  For more information about Kolbe's grading services, check out this section of the Kolbe website. To sign up for Homeschool Plus or Self-Paced courses, contact your child's grade level advisor.  Interested in Kolbe Academy's offerings? Visit kolbe.org.     Look for the Kolbecast in your favorite podcast app and subscribe for effortless episode delivery.  Have a suggestion or question for the Kolbecast team? Write to us at podcast@kolbe.org.   

This week, CEO, author, speaker, and activist Michelle Kim gets in the arena to talk about her recent book. It's called, The Wake Up: Closing the Gap Between Good Intentions and Real Change. And in it, Michelle clarifies what she's come to understand in her lifelong social justice activism while giving us all the tools to show up for societal liberation. Her work is beyond the basics, she digs deep, and she spares no truth. Most of all, she promises discomfort, which she assures means real change.

Join Leah Smart every week for an all-new season of In the Arena. As she explores vulnerable aspects of the human experience to inspire transformation. This season she sits down with CEO of LinkedIn, Ryan Roslanksy, NYT bestselling author, Bruce Feiler, CEO of Awaken and author, Michelle Kim, former NFL Coach Daron Roberts, founder and investor Reid Hoffman- and many more. Don't miss new In the Arena episodes! Subscribe to the In the Arena Weekly newsletter: https://tinyurl.com/2bn59zff

Join Me? We've seen and heard the rise of anti-Asian hate and attacks.  Thank you to everyone who has checked in with me. Here's my first Fireside chat where you'll hear a variety of voices and perspectives on racism. I encourage you to take some time out to listen to "A Conversation on Anti-Asian Hate" The sister episode to this one is Episode 263 Affirmations Because Black Lives Matter   Thanks for listening to our Fireside chat! Here's more about the guests and some more conversations and resources to help stop Asian hate. GUESTS Lee Uehara and Andy Wang, Asian American Podcasters Association     Sheena Yap Chan, Tao of Self-Confidence podcast       Mike Kim, Brand You podcast (Mike will be on an upcoming Fireside chat) Read Mike's Article "Some Guy Called Me 'Yao Ming'"   RESOURCES Hear Eileen Park's response to the anti-Asian hate she received after her wedding was featured in Vogue magazine, the same week of the senseless Atlanta murders at AffirmationPod.com/EileenPark   Hear Jeannie Mai and Jenny Wang share their thoughts and emotions about Asian hate on Jeannie's podcast Listen Hunnay at AffirmationPod.com/ListenHunnay   Hear from Melody Cheng, Helen Wu and Janet Wang from the Asian Boss Girl podcast chat with the founders of #HateIsAVirus, Michelle K. Hanabusa and Tammy Cho at AffirmationPod.com/HateIsAVirus   Hear Chanel Tsang from the Peace Out podcast (for kids) talk about how to respond to racism and lead a Loving Kindness Meditation at AffirmationPod.com/AntiAsianRacismForKids   Join Eugene Lee Yang from The Try Guys for an in-depth presentation of the unique struggles the Asian American community faces at AffirmationPod.com/EugeneLeeYang    Learn More at stopaapihate.org     Account to Follow

Employees identifying as POC and LGBTQIA+ have disproportionately experienced negative outcomes resulting from the pandemic, including higher rates of infection, greater loss of employment and AAPI discrimination. In this episode of SHRM’s Honest HR podcast, host Wendy Fong speaks with Michelle Kim, entrepreneur, writer, DE&I thought leader and CEO of Awaken, to provide insights and action steps on how to proactively and effectively support the POC and LGBTQIA+ employees at your organization.EARN SHRM RECERTIFICATION PDCs FOR LISTENINGHonest HR podcast episodes will help you build your competencies while earning professional development credits (PDCs) toward your SHRM-CP/SHRM-SCP recertification! All relevant details, including the Activity IDs, are provided during the podcast episode.Additional topic resources:How U.S. Companies Can Support Employees of Color Through the Pandemic - Harvard Business ReviewLearn more about SHRM's Together Forward @Work initiative

Anti-Asian crimes have spiked since the pandemic started, with more than 3,000 incidents occurring all across the country. What is behind this increase in hate crimes, what is being done about it, and what still needs to be done to stop it? Join us for a discussion with three Asian American leaders about addressing anti-Asian violence in America. Nikki Fortunato Bas is president of the Oakland City Council and represents District 2, one of the most diverse districts in the city. Since taking office in 2019, she led the passage of the strongest COVID-19 eviction moratorium in the state of California and a COVID-19 grocery worker hazard pay $5 wage bonus covering 2,000 workers in Oakland’s largest grocery stores. Russell Jeung is a professor of Asian American Studies at San Francisco State University. In 2020, Dr. Jeung launched Stop AAPI Hate, a project of Chinese for Affirmative Action, the Asian Pacific Policy and Planning Council, and San Francisco State Asian American Studies. It tracks COVID-19 related discrimination in order to develop community resources and policy interventions to fight racism. Michelle Kim is a queer immigrant Korean American woman writer, speaker and entrepreneur challenging the status quo in tech and beyond. She is the CEO of Awaken, a leading provider of interactive equity and inclusion education programs facilitated by majority BIPOC educators, where she has consulted hundreds of organizations and top executives from Fortune 500, tech giants, nonprofits and government agencies to spark change. NOTES The Commonwealth Club thanks Gilead Sciences, Inc. for its generous support of The Michelle Meow Show.  The Michelle Meow Show thanks Kaiser Permanente for its support of independent LGBTQ media producers.  SPEAKERS Nikki Fortunato Bas President, Oakland City Council Russell Jeung Professor of Asian American Studies, San Francisco State University; Author, Family Sacrifices: The Worldviews and Ethics of Chinese Americans Michelle Kim CEO, Awaken; Author,The Wake Up: Closing the Gap Between Good Intentions and Real Change (Forthcoming) Michelle Meow Producer and Host, "The Michelle Meow Show" on KBCW/KPIX TV and Podcast; Member, Commonwealth Club Board of Governors; Twitter @msmichellemeow—Host In response to the COVID-19 pandemic, we are currently hosting all of our live programming via YouTube live stream. This program was recorded via video conference on March 11th, 2021 by the Commonwealth Club of California. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Anti-Asian crimes have spiked since the pandemic started, with more than 3,000 incidents occurring all across the country. What is behind this increase in hate crimes, what is being done about it, and what still needs to be done to stop it? Join us for a discussion with three Asian American leaders about addressing anti-Asian violence in America. Nikki Fortunato Bas is president of the Oakland City Council and represents District 2, one of the most diverse districts in the city. Since taking office in 2019, she led the passage of the strongest COVID-19 eviction moratorium in the state of California and a COVID-19 grocery worker hazard pay $5 wage bonus covering 2,000 workers in Oakland's largest grocery stores. Russell Jeung is a professor of Asian American Studies at San Francisco State University. In 2020, Dr. Jeung launched Stop AAPI Hate, a project of Chinese for Affirmative Action, the Asian Pacific Policy and Planning Council, and San Francisco State Asian American Studies. It tracks COVID-19 related discrimination in order to develop community resources and policy interventions to fight racism. Michelle Kim is a queer immigrant Korean American woman writer, speaker and entrepreneur challenging the status quo in tech and beyond. She is the CEO of Awaken, a leading provider of interactive equity and inclusion education programs facilitated by majority BIPOC educators, where she has consulted hundreds of organizations and top executives from Fortune 500, tech giants, nonprofits and government agencies to spark change. NOTES The Commonwealth Club thanks Gilead Sciences, Inc. for its generous support of The Michelle Meow Show.  The Michelle Meow Show thanks Kaiser Permanente for its support of independent LGBTQ media producers.  SPEAKERS Nikki Fortunato Bas President, Oakland City Council Russell Jeung Professor of Asian American Studies, San Francisco State University; Author, Family Sacrifices: The Worldviews and Ethics of Chinese Americans Michelle Kim CEO, Awaken; Author,The Wake Up: Closing the Gap Between Good Intentions and Real Change (Forthcoming) Michelle Meow Producer and Host, "The Michelle Meow Show" on KBCW/KPIX TV and Podcast; Member, Commonwealth Club Board of Governors; Twitter @msmichellemeow—Host In response to the COVID-19 pandemic, we are currently hosting all of our live programming via YouTube live stream. This program was recorded via video conference on March 11th, 2021 by the Commonwealth Club of California. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Joy talks to Michelle Kim and Georgia State Representative Sam Park on the recent Atlanta area shootings. On how little is known about some of the victims and what can be done by media and public officials, Kim says, "I do think that there needs to be much longer term commitment to building that relationship and trust to understand the needs of the community more deeply."

I woke up at 6am this morning feeling confused and had the urge to share my thoughts on Anti-Asian Hate crimes. I am just speaking for myself and do not represent all Asian Americans but I am just sharing some of my experiences as an Asian American Male who despite being born in America will never viewed as an American even though I've never been to Asia just because of the color of my skin. Reading Michelle Kim's article inspired me to want to share openly in hopes of educating a few what many people don't know about Asian American hate crimes. "They show a 91-year-old Chinese man being shoved to the ground in Oakland's Chinatown on Sunday, January 31st, just two days before an 84-year-old Thai man, Vicha Ratanapakdee, was pushed and killed in San Francisco, and multiple accounts of robberies targeting Asian-owned businesses in Chinatowns. In New York, a 61-year-old Filipino man was slashed across the face from ear to ear on Feb 3rd, and on the same day, a 70-year-old Asian woman was assaulted and robbed in Oakland." I would like to share with you all some stories from my past that I know have made me who I am. 1. Working at a previous company where I called racist comments as my nickname. 2. At a team outing that traumatized with the Men's Cross Country and Track at Cherry Hill West. 3. With one of my best friends back in High School 4. A hurtful comment with a formal manager of mine 5. Random moments walking around Queens/Brooklyn/New Brunswick being called Jackie Chan. 6. A story about my wife's younger sister sharing that she was walking to Target and had a bus of kids say go back to China… 7. My mom was afraid of going to Costco because of the racial comments fearing for her life. In the US, there were 3,800 anti-Asian racist incidents, mostly against women, in past year. Asian women report hate incidents 2.3 times more than men. The founder and director of demographic data and policy research nonprofit AAPI Data have said that a confluence of factors, including the effects of poverty and financial struggle exacerbated by the pandemic, as well as opportunity, could have played into the heightened anti-Asian sentiment. How can you be an ally and take action? Educate yourself. These articles and learning more about these incidents will give you some more awareness of how we have been feeling but Asians typically don't have a voice in mainstream media. These 5 articles are a good place to start. 1. Vincent Chin-https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Vincent_Chin 2. Chinese Massacre of 1871-https://www.lapl.org/collections-resources/blogs/lapl/chinese-mssacre-1871 3. Read this article by Michelle Kim- https://medium.com/awaken-blog/on-anti-asian-hate-crimes-who-is-our-real-enemy-207ee7354926 4. https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/03/17/us/shooting-atlanta-acworth 5. Learn more about the Model Minority Myth: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txbtTCckp_k It wasn't easy creating this video to share openly about how I feel about the Anti-Asian Sentiment but Thanks for listening.

Toral and Anthony explore the topic of anti-Asian violence and what it means to show solidarity with Asian, Asian American, and Pacific Islander communities during this time. For more information on the bias reporting tool, please visit: https://diversity.cornell.edu/our-commitments/bias-reporting-cornell For more resources on anti-Asian violence and how you can show your solidarity, feel free to review the following links: - "On Anti-Asian Hate Crimes: Who Is Our Real Enemy?" by Michelle Kim: https://medium.com/awaken-blog/on-anti-asian-hate-crimes-who-is-our-real-enemy-207ee7354926 - "How to support Asian American colleagues amid the recent wave of anti-Asian violence" by Jennifer Liu: https://www.cnbc.com/2021/02/19/how-to-support-asian-american-colleagues-amid-anti-asian-violence.html - "45 Ways to Donate in Support of Asian Communities" by the Editors of New York Magazine: https://nymag.com/strategist/article/where-to-donate-to-help-asian-communities-2021.html - Asian American History series by PBS: https://www.pbs.org/show/asian-americans/

Maria is back to join Julio in her first ITT Sound Off in 2021! They break down the latest with the Senate impeachment trial for former president Donald Trump and process just how horrifying the attack at the Capitol on Jan. 6th was. Maria and Julio also discuss the devastating reaches of white supremacy in the country from the Biden administration's deportation of Haitian immigrants to the recent wave of hate incidents and violence against the Asian-American community.ITT Staff Picks:One of the breakout stars of the Senate Impeachment trial was Rep. Stacey Plaskett of the U.S. Virgin Islands. She opened her presentation by saying: “I’ve learned throughout my life that preparation and truth can carry you far, can allow you to speak truth to power. I’ve learned that as a young Black girl growing up in the projects in Brooklyn, a housing community on St. Croix, sent to the most unlikeliest of settings, and now as an adult woman representing an island territory speaking to the U.S. Senate.”“Anti-Blackness is baked into the immigration system and ICE has merely operationalized it. In fact, the federal agency has spent Black History Month deporting Black immigrants," writes Tina Vasquez for Prism, "Since Feb. 1, over 500 Haitians have been deported in an effort to deport 1,800 to Haiti by mid-February.”Michelle Kim writes about the Anti-Asian Hate Crimes in the Medium Awaken Blog: “White supremacy wants us to remember the unhealed wounds we inflicted on each other, historical and ongoing anti-Blackness in the Asian community and anti-Asian incidents perpetrated by Black individuals, but not the stories of solidarity that have existed in equal measure, but are somehow left out of our history books and media coverage.”Photo credit: AP Photo/J. Scott Applewhite See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

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(S3, EP 4) Michelle Kim joined in for this week's episode as part of Season 3's theme, "Where Do We Stand?". Michelle is a queer social justice activist, and is currently the CEO of Awaken, which provides interactive DEI (Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion) workshops for a number of leading tech companies across the US. She talked about the barriers that BIPOC employees are still facing with their employers, and what companies are failing to do in addressing the systemic racism and micro-aggressions in their work culture. She spent time breaking down where DEI initiatives fall short, and how companies must use best practices to dismantle white supremacy in their environment. Please check out this episode for more on my discussion with Michelle. Recorded: July 10th -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Special thanks to my sponsor, Lawrence and Argyle, a Viet-American owned merchandise line representing immigrant empowerment. Get yourself a pin, hoodie or t-shirt and show off your immigrant pride. Visit them at www.lawrenceandargyle.com or on Instagram @lawrenceandargyle or on their Facebook page -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bio: Michelle Kim is an entrepreneur and Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) thought leader who believes in creating compassionate space for uncomfortable conversations that go beyond just “checking the box.” She is the CEO of Awaken, a leading provider of interactive DEI workshops, where she has consulted hundreds of organizations and top executives from Fortune 500 to tech giants to spark meaningful change. Michelle has been a lifelong social justice activist and has served on a variety of organizations such as the San Francisco LGBTQ Speakers Bureau, SF Human Rights Commission's Advisory Committee, and LYRIC nonprofit's Board of Directors. Her work has appeared on world renowned platforms such as Harvard Business Review, Forbes, The New York Times, and NPR, and she has been named Medium's Top Writer in Diversity 3 years in a row. Visit Awaken at www.visionawaken.com. Follow Michelle on LinkedIn or Twitter. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/banhmichronicles/support

#037 - In this episode of Inclusion in Progress, Kay is speaking to Michelle Kim, CEO of Awaken, to talk about inclusive language at work. Michelle shares her story as an Asian American immigrant and member of the LGBTQIA+ community — and how she connected her tireless passion for social justice to her DEI work for startups and Fortune 500 companies. She also invites us to consider how to be more intentional and inclusive as language evolves, and highlights the need to consider our impact when leading diversity, equity and inclusion at work.

Michelle Kim appears to be a normal, twenty-something year old, first generation American, living the American dream in California. But over the last few months the dream is starting to become a nightmare because of her membership in the Shincheonji Church of Jesus. The church has been labeled a cult, accused of brainwashing its members into submission, and claim its founder called himself Jesus. The church, with its 300,000 members, is based in South Korea but has branches in 20 countries including the United States. Kim attends the church in California where she was born. The South Korean church became the focus of the government's blame for the Coronavirus spreading in the country. "Patient number 31," as the 61-year-old woman is called, was a member in the Daegu branch. In mid-February she was diagnosed with COVID-19, a diagnosis made after she attended services. She thought she had a cold, but it turned out to be the deadly virus. It spread to 4,000 members. The government demanded the church hand over its list of members, including those outside of South Korea. According to the United States Commission on International Religious Freedom, "The government of Seoul locked down Shincheonji churches in the capital, and some mainline Protestant groups have accused the church of deliberately spreading the disease." On this episode of Lighthouse Faith podcast, Michelle Kim tells her side of the Shincheonji controversy, and how being a member has made her fear that once people know her church association, she could be ostracized, lose friends, or worse yet, her job. See omnystudio.com/policies/listener for privacy information.

Listen to and be encouraged by how ELM members are experiencing grace and living their lives during these unusual times! We caught up with Michelle Kim this week—a mother to two lovely dogs, fan of K-dramas, and Christ lover. 

Welcome to the very first episode of TITT Talks – Growing Up Asian Pacific American! We recorded this episode nearly three months ago, but given the surge of social unrest surrounding the topic of race, we felt it was important to launch the podcast with this as our first episode.  While we directly discuss matters of our own #aapi identities, our hearts are with the black community.  We collectively must do our part to rise against the injustice in this world.  Together, with action and self-education, we can create a world of equality and justice today and for the next generation. #blacklivesmatter ____________________________________________ WAYS TO GET INVOLVEDParticipate in #BLACKOUTDAY2020 on July 7, 2020. This is a call to action where ALL people of color are encouraged to come together in one day of solidarity to not spend a dollar.  Collectively, this group of minorities has $3.9 trillion dollars in economic spending power. Use your own platform, big or small, to educate your family and friends on the injustice black people face daily. It’s not enough to be quietly non-racist, now is the time to be vocally anti-racist. Donate to organizations serving Black communities, like TGI Justice Project, Black Girls Code, and the NAACP to name a few. This is just one of the many suggestions from Michelle Kim’s article, “20+ Allyship Actions for Asians to Show Up for the Black Community Right Now”. We encourage you to read the full article. Subscribe and listen to the following podcasts which dive into important conversations around racial equality and justice: 1619 by The New York Times, About Race, Code Switch by NPR, The Diversity Gap, Intersectionality Matters! Hosted by Kimberlé Crenshaw, Momentum: A Race Forward Podcast, Pod For The Cause from the leadership conference on civil & human rights, and Pod Save the People by Crooked Media. This listed was published by Sarah Sophie Flicker & Alyssa Klein. Sarah Sophie Flicker & Alyssa Klein published a full list of Anti-racism resources that range from articles, videos, bookies, movies, organizations to support, and more. Please go here to read it. Donate to the funds for George Floyd and Amaud Arbery. Sign the petition for justice for Breonna Taylor. ____________________________________________ MONTHLY SPOTLIGHTAs part of TITT Talks' women supporting women initiative, each month TITT Talks will spotlight a member of the community. In this video, you will be introduced to Proud Usacharoenporn. She is a lawyer and business litigation partner. In her spare time, she uses her graphic design skills to raise funds for two wonderful, non-profit organizations: The Little Red Dog and The Center for Disaster Philanthropy, Inc. The Little Red Dog rescues dogs from high-kill shelters across Southern California, rehabs them through behavior training, and finds them forever homes. Proud has fostered several dogs for this rescue and has adopted one! In exchange for a donation to @thelittlereddog, Proud will create for you a personalized portrait of your pet to cherish furever and ever.Proud has also written and illustrated a children’s book called “Panda-Emic” to benefit The Center for Disaster Philanthropy, Inc.’s fund for COVID relief. The story is intended to give parents a way to explain the pandemic to their young children, to spread solidarity, and to inspire positivity. It details the story of five friends who are forced to stay apart because of the “Panda-Emic,” a pandemic started by the pandas that rocks the animal world. The Center for Disaster Philanthropy supports other worthy non-profits that help healthcare workers and especially vulnerable population, such as Americares, CARE, and Feeding America. If you make a donation to The Center, Proud will send you a copy of her book, “Panda-Emic” for you and your family to enjoy. You can donate/purchase here.  ____________________________________________ CONNECT WITH US Sign up for our NEWSLETTER – TITT Talks Tea IG: titt_talks FACEBOOK: TITT Talks E-MAIL: TITTtalks@gmail.com YOUTUBE: TITT Talks Podcast____________________________________________ WE WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU What topics would you like to hear discussed on the show? Click HERE to let us know!

In July 2014, Eric Garner, a 43 year-old unarmed black man, was killed when a New York City police officer placed him in a chokehold after Garner questioned the officer as to why he was being harassed. In March 2018, Stephon Clark, a 22 year-old unarmed black man, was shot and killed by two officers of the Sacramento Police Department in the backyard of his grandmother's house while he had a phone in his hand. The officers stated that they shot Clark, firing 20 rounds, believing that he had pointed a gun at them. Police found only a cell phone on him. In September 2018, an off-duty Dallas Police Department patrol officer entered the apartment of Botham Jean, a 26 year-old unarmed black man, and fatally shot him. The officer said that she had entered the apartment believing it was her own and that she shot Jean, believing he was a burglar. In February 2020, Ahmaud Arbery, an unarmed 25-year-old black man, was fatally shot in Glynn County, Georgia, while jogging. Arbery had been pursued and confronted by two white men, a father and son, who were armed and driving a pickup truck.  The father was a former police officer, and his son shot Arbery at point-blank range with a shotgun.  The event was recorded on video by a third white man, who was following Arbery in a second vehicle.   No arrests were made until May 7, two days after the video of Arbery’s shooting went viral. In March 2020, Breonna Taylor, an unarmed 26-year-old black woman, was fatally shot by Louisville Metro Police Department (LMPD) officers. The officers forced entry into her apartment in Louisville, Kentucky under the authority of a no-knock search warrant. Gunfire was exchanged between the LMPD officers and Taylor's boyfriend, who believed that the officers were intruders. The LMPD officers fired over twenty shots, and Taylor was killed after being shot eight times. In May 2020, George Floyd, a 46-year-old unarmed black man, was killed in Minneapolis, Minnesota during an arrest for allegedly using a counterfeit bill. A white police officer knelt on Floyd's neck for almost nine minutes while Floyd was handcuffed and lying face down in the street, begging for his life and repeatedly saying "I can't breathe."  These are only a fraction of the stories of which we know.  These stories are only a minuscule fraction of the abuses that have actually occurred against the Black community as the result of senseless police brutality.We are Asian American Pacific Islander women.  While we face our own societal obstacles based on our race alone, we absolutely recognize that those disadvantages will never compare to the fear that the Black community faces on a daily basis.  We do not live in fear that we, or our loved ones, will be killed for asking why a police officer has pulled us over, while going on a jog, for using a cell phone, or while simply existing in our own homes.As women of color, as mothers, and as humans, we cannot remain silent when confronted with the reality that any person has to live with this fear.  We have an obligation to proactively contribute to positive change, whether by marching, donating, signing petitions, educating ourselves on Black history and experiences, and speaking out against racism in any form.  We unequivocally believe that Black lives matter and that there cannot peace until there is justice for all. In this episode, we discuss our thoughts on the current climate of race relations in America and our call to action in light of the most recent atrocities committed against the Black community.  We hope you will share yours with us as well. ____________________________________________WAYS TO GET INVOLVED Participate in #BLACKOUTDAY2020 on July 7, 2020. This is a call to action where ALL people of color are encouraged to come together in one day of solidarity to not spend a dollar.  Collectively, this group of minorities has $3.9 trillion dollars in economic spending power. Use your own platform, big or small, to educate your family and friends on the injustice black people face daily. It’s not enough to be quietly non-racist, now is the time to be vocally anti-racist. Donate to organizations serving Black communities, like TGI Justice Project, Black Girls Code, and the NAACP to name a few. This is just one of the many suggestions from Michelle Kim’s article, “20+ Allyship Actions for Asians to Show Up for the Black Community Right Now”. We encourage you to read the full article. Subscribe and listen to the following podcasts which dive into important conversations around racial equality and justice: 1619 by The New York Times, About Race, Code Switch by NPR, The Diversity Gap, Intersectionality Matters! Hosted by Kimberlé Crenshaw, Momentum: A Race Forward Podcast, Pod For The Cause from the leadership conference on civil & human rights, and Pod Save the People by Crooked Media. This listed was published by Sarah Sophie Flicker & Alyssa Klein. Sarah Sophie Flicker & Alyssa Klein published a full list of Anti-racism resources that range from articles, videos, bookies, movies, organizations to support, and more. Please go here to read it. Donate to the funds for George Floyd and Amaud Arbery. Sign the petition for justice for Breonna Taylor.____________________________________________ CONNECT WITH US Sign up for our NEWSLETTER – TITT Talks Tea IG: titt_talks FACEBOOK: TITT Talks E-MAIL: TITTtalks@gmail.com YOUTUBE: TITT Talks Podcast____________________________________________ WE WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU What topics would you like to hear discussed on the show? Click HERE to let us know!

Leaders around the world are trying to help their teams navigate an incredible amount of uncertainty. This can lead to a deep sense of frustration about the world, the workplace, and our role within it. That’s why we need to have the courage to have difficult conversations about topics such as race, politics, equity, and belonging.In this episode, Damon Klotz speaks with Michelle Kim, Co-Founder and CEO of Awaken. Michelle and Damon talk about how to manage a team in times of political trauma, create space for uncomfortable conversations at work, and minimize the impact of uncertainty for your employees.* Michelle wanted listeners of the show to know that she asked Culture Amp to make a donation to The Transgender Gender-Variant & Intersex Justice Project in lieu of a payment to Awaken for her time today. Culture Amp has made a donation of $2500 to the TGI Project and we want to thank Michelle for her leadership and generosity.ResourcesBlog posts referenced:https://medium.com/awaken-blog/managing-teams-in-times-of-political-trauma-what-to-do-what-to-say-to-boost-psychological-safety-b5782969d6fa https://medium.com/awaken-blog/urgently-looking-for-anti-racism-training-for-your-company-start-here-f4d2f7e97111https://medium.com/awaken-blog/20-allyship-actions-for-asians-to-show-up-for-the-black-community-right-now-464e5689cf3eList of Black owned DEI companies + Black DEI professionals: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1giDIGTd5XvuCrP9n-Y70_NQPegvmcejdg8x3ypM5Iu4/edit#gid=0TGI Justice Project Website - http://www.tgijp.org/Connect with Michelle on LinkedIn, and learn more about Awaken on their website.

Yelp Elite, Michelle Kim, shares her experience as an active Yelper. A week after we shared strong feelings towards inept reviews, we learn how the power of the typing-fingers is as strong as the power of those considering the reviews. Learn the good, the bad, and the ugly before you Yelp.

Zach has the honor of having a conversation with Dr. Erin L. Thomas, Head of Diversity, Inclusion & Belonging at Upwork, about organizational equity during the COVID-19 pandemic. She graciously shares some advice regarding what organizations can do during this time to at the very least reduce harm for their black and brown employees and talks a bit about how her perspective and focuses at work have shifted as this pandemic has continued. Check the links in the show notes to connect with Dr. Thomas!Link up with Dr. Thomas on Twitter! She's also on LinkedIn. Links in order:https://bit.ly/3c0BXKhhttps://bit.ly/3c7qhFELearn more about Upwork on their website. You can view their open positions by clicking here. Links in order:https://bit.ly/2TEC8Vnhttps://bit.ly/2A5X00WFind out how the CDC suggests you wash your hands by clicking here or below.https://bit.ly/2Ug4l5KHelp food banks respond to COVID-19. Learn more at FeedingAmerica.org.https://bit.ly/2WD73UkCheck out our website.https://bit.ly/living-corporateTRANSCRIPTZach: What's up, everybody? It's Zach, and you know what? I'ma just go ahead and say it right now. It's also Emory. Emory, say something. [Emory breathes] That's just her breathing. Emory is, at the time of this recording, six weeks old. So we're here because I'm on daddy duty and my wife has to get some sleep. That's right. Husbands, help your wives, or partners rather, excuse me - not to be overly gendered on a podcast all focused on inclusion, equity and diversity. Help your partners, you know what I'm saying? Everybody, you know, they--one person can't do it all. Sometimes you gotta step in, and this podcast is great, and I love y'all, but of course I love my daughter the most. Well, I love my wife also. Let me not do any type of weird hierarchy right now live, like, a live-streaming conscience of thought on the podcast, but the point is you have responsibilities. There are things that take precedent. And look, we're in a new normal, so I'm just here. Where was I? Right, Living Corporate. So look, Living Corporate amplifies and centers black and brown voices at work. Why do I say black and brown and not, like, people of color? Because I want to be very explicit, we want to be very explicit, with what our mission is. So we aim to center and amplify black and brown identities, marginalized folks, folks on the periphery, in the workplace, and we do that how? We do that by having real talk in a corporate world. Now how do we do that? We do that by interviewing incredible leaders cut from all type of cloth. And, you know, we've had executives. We've had professors, entrepreneurs, public servants, activists, civil leaders, elected officials. We've had all types of people, artists, and today is no different. Today we have Dr. Erin L. Thomas. Dr. Thomas is the head of diversity, inclusion and belonging at Upwork where she leads diversity, inclusion and belonging, or DIBs. She leads the strategy implementation and coaching for all of Upwork. Prior to Upwork though, Dr. Thomas was a managing director at Paradigm, a diversity and inclusion strategy firm where she partnered with companies to embed DIBs into organizations through culture transformation and people development. Prior to Paradigm, Erin held positions at Grant Thornton LLP, Argonne National Laboratory developing D&I strategies, programming and metrics. Her work has been featured in Fast Company and the New York Times and recognized by Forbes, Human Rights Campaign, the National Association for Female Executives and the Equal Opportunity Magazine. She holds a PhD in social psychology, a Master of Philosophy in social psychology; a Master of Science in social psychology; and a Bachelor of Arts in psychology and international studies from Yale University. She is accredited, y'all. Okay? Don't question us, okay? We're coming to y'all. We bring y'all heat rock every single week, and the heat rock we bring is because we have guests that have heat rock. I'ma say heat rock again just so y'all get the point. Yes, I'm turnt up. Yes, it's a Tuesday. Who cares? Erin, what's up? Welcome to the show. How are you doing?Erin: I'm doing great. Thanks so much for having me. Hi, little baby Emory. I am so excited to be here, and I want to give you a number. So I'm really into, during COVID times, anchoring, you know, "How are you doing?" on a scale. 1 is, you know, "We've got to get out of here and get some more support." Like, "We're not doing well." 10 is, you know, "COVID what? COVID who?" But I think, like, if you're a 10, you also probably need some external support. Zach: Facts. [laughs]Erin: And I think today I am... I'm, like, a 7, 8. I'm very excited to be chatting with you. What's your number?Zach: That's a really good question. You know, I don't know. So it's interesting because your scale, I don't know how it accounts for, like, other things, right? So, like, I'm also here with, like, a six-week-old baby. So maybe I'm, like, a--so, like, coronavirus is not, like, at the top of my mind because I'm trying to focus on keeping this thing that looks like me alive. Maybe I'm, like, a--I'd probably say I'm, like, a 7, 8. Like, I'm pretty good. I'm happy, right? Like, I mean, life is good. The new Drake album--well, not the album, but a little collection of loosies came out recently that was very good, that I enjoyed. You know, my favorite shows are still coming on. I've caught up on some anime. So I'm keeping myself well-distracted.Erin: [laughs] That's good. I think distracted is good. I think--I don't know, I think in the beginning days of all of this it felt, for me at least, a little weird to compartmentalize, or I felt a little guilty, but I actually think that's incredibly healthy, you know, to find moments of just pleasure and delight. That's all we got, right? That's all we got.Zach: I mean, this--the reality is that before this pandemic, like, I was already a homebody. Now, people at work--like, people who know me from work would--they may not know that, because, like, in person, like, I'm a fairly gregarious guy. But, like, you know, people are complex, right? I think, like, we create a lot of these terms and things that aren't really academic or scientific just to kind of better compartmentalize people, like, "You're an extrovert, you're an introvert." It's like, "I mean, I enjoy people, but I also enjoy being alone." Like, I enjoy being at home, being with my wife and now my kid. Like, I'm fine with that. But I'm glad, I'm glad that you're excited. I'm excited and in a good place as well. You know, this would be interesting to do again, like, if our numbers were wildly different, right? So, like, you're a 7, 8, I'm a 7, 8, but if I was, like, a 2, then, like, I wonder how the dynamics of this discussion would look, especially considering what we're talking about.Dr. Thomas: Yeah. I mean, I think then--and this has happened to me at work, right? Like, I come in low and someone else is high or vice versa. I think then that's the--I mean, that's the point of it, right? It's a moment of pause to figure out what do you need to put aside or do you need to get off this call or how can I support you and give that person who's lower an opportunity to either just share or not or articulate more. I just think it's a great window into "How can we work together towards whatever it is that we need to achieve?" And if now's not the time, fair. You know? We gotta go and come back together when we're both in the right space. I think that happens all the time, we just don't often put numbers to it, right?Zach: I agree, I agree. So look, that actually is a really good segue for us to get into this. Like, this pandemic, it continues to expose and exacerbate all types of inequities, from social to governmental and of course workplace, just all across the board, and I'll tell you, frankly it just feels overwhelming for me to think about holistically, let alone try to address, and so I'm really curious about just, like, considering your role with Upwork, I'd love to hear how your perspective and focuses have shifted as this pandemic has continued, and considering your level within Upwork and, like, the organizational power that you wield by way of your level, I'd love to hear about how power and influence has shaped your praxis.Dr. Thomas: Yeah. Whoo, this could take the whole hour, which, you know, happy, happy to unpack it for that long, 'cause it's deep. It's deep and very real. Like, the quickest answer for me is not that much has actually changed about the objectives that we set out to achieve for this year. How we go about them certainly has had to stay agile and nimble, but in the work that I do that's always the case. I always like to be super responsive to context and not get so [prescriptive?] about how we execute but to kind of keep our eyes on the prize, and so from my personal vantage point, I--especially during the beginning days of this--have never felt more critical than I do right now. You know, I think there's so many external conversations and great thought leaders who have articulated this better, what this crisis has really done, like most crises, is magnify fractures, gaps, inequities, that already existed, and so I've used this really as an opening to accelerate my platform and the work that I'm doing for marginalized folks at our company. So just to dig into it, you know, I did a couple of tactical things once it became clear to me that, you know, "This is serious. This is not the flu. This is gonna change everyone's lives forever," and I don't think that's an overstatement. So once that reality sort of set in, the first thing I did was I revisited these operating principles that I had crafted when I started at Upwork. So I joined the company in December of 2019. I'm only about weeks in, and there's been a lot of change since then, internally and obviously externally, but as a team of one and as the first DIB leader in our organization, I thought it was really important for me to just get anchored on what [?] and, you know, use that decision framework for really [advertising?] how I [fell?] in my role. I think, especially when a role like this is new or especially when someone comes in with a multi-disciplinary background [or] a very strategic lens, folks don't necessarily know what the role is and they kind of fill in their own blanks and make their own stories. So that was important to me, and I revisited those once we started quarantining just to make sure that they were evergreen and [stood up?] in this crisis, and they did, thankfully, and I can put [?] on my name. There's only four, and everything we do is, you know, it's systemic, so #1 is account for the systems and structures we're operating in, and that's, you know, systems and structures within our company and certainly externally as well. So that's #1, definitely holds true today. #2 is everything we do is tailored to the most specific population or the most specific point in the employee experience as possible, and so it kind of goes back to how you introduce the podcast, which is it's basically about centering. We have to get specific. We have to get articulate and discrete about what problem we're trying to solve or what opportunity we're trying to seize, and certainly during public times that's been really critical, and I think that principle holds up. The third is active. So I really wanted to mark that for myself and for others. You know, there's no passive way to do this work. Like, we're gonna have to change some things, and, you know, I think that's intuitive, but also [?] to declare. And then the fourth thing which is super critical for me, and this is where I see a lot of DIBs or DEI, whatever acronym you want to use, professionals flounder a little bit, is being pragmatic and being compelling and cohesive and telling, you know, one story that folks can get behind that also makes sense in the context of the day-to-day decisions and work that they're doing, and I think too often DIBs work kind of exists in a bit of a vacuum, right? It's a little bit of a tag-along or an extra-curricular, and I think that's the piece, you know, during corona times, that I've had to really get critical, even more so with myself, about "[?]," right? Like, do people have the capacity for this new thing or this new structure or this new effort and just really kind of giving grace to the folks who have to carry forward on the strategies, who have to, you know, change their behaviors, because it's a lot to ask even in the best of times, and I want to push and, again, lean into this comfort, but also be gracious with the fact that folks are dealing with a lot right now. So that's one of the things I did, was just, like, double-check on the way that we're going about this work. So relevant during this time. Another thing was just re-prioritizing some of those actual objectives. There were just, like, a couple that, even before corona, were nicer to have, but now it's clear that this is not the year to be working on the frills. It's really--we gotta stick to the essentials in terms of our strategic goals. And then the last thing I'll quickly say is I actually really leveraged the fact that it seems like most folks are becoming kind of armchair experts in academiology these days, right? Like, I'm learning more, more about viruses and how they spread, and I think there's some really interesting--and if I thought about it hard enough there could be a poem out of this, but, you know, I think there's some really interesting overlays between what we're seeing with the virus [Emory makes some noise] and how I think about people and the fact that--hey, Emory! The fact that we are all connected, we're all inter-dependent, and we need to center the most vulnerable. I think, as a society, that's becoming more and more clear, just with the true facts that are coming out from COVID, but it also I think has been what activists and DIBs practitioners have been saying for, you know, decades, and so I think, at least in my company, it sort of seems like there's this window of opportunity to seize on this understanding of centering and equity and disproportionate impact that folks are getting externally and [?] that same framework and understanding through the work that I do internally. I just think folks are grasping it a little bit more easily now than they might have been before this. So that, for me, has been exciting.Zach: That's awesome. And yes, hello, Emory. But no, you're absolutely right. [laughs] You know, what I find curious about this time, or intriguing even, is that because of the real impacts that this pandemic is having with folks that look like us and that don't look like us and the frustrations that come along with that, it's creating avenues for people to have even more frank conversations and to really kind of, like, get past some of the jargon and, like, these super long monologues about whatever and really get into, "No, how can we actually create impact and change and help? Because there are people who actively need help," and I think that's--and I try to be, like, a silver lining type of person, so, like, that's--so I would say that is something that is a positive out of all of this. I do think also, to your point around DEI practitioners, I do think that there's a bit of a gap when it comes to, "Okay, how do we transition from--" And I've talked about this with some other folks in the past. I think we're now doing a decent job of, like, talking about the historicity of oppression, or we'll talk about systemic inequities in, like, these very, like, high level systems that almost seem--like, we speak about them almost, like, in the abstract, right? So we'll say, like, "Well, you know, black men, they have disproportionate--they're targeted by police and da-da-da," and it's like, "Okay, that's true," and I'm not being dismissive of that. "Let's talk a little bit more about the systemic inequities in your workplace though," right? Like, "How can we transition these conversations to be a bit more practical and targeted to the reality of your employees?" And, like, that's--and I get why, you know, there's a variety of reasons why we don't necessarily have those conversations when I don't think we necessarily know how, but then two, like, it's increasingly uncomfortable to have conversations about actual power in your workplace, because then we start looking at individuals, right?Dr. Thomas: Yeah. I mean, it's hard, or maybe impossible, not to take, you know, a conversation about power and privilege personally, but at the same time I think where I've seen the most effective work, where I've done the most effective work, is where we actually sort of meet somewhere in the middle. It's about what roles or positions do we hold, how are those products of a greater societal system, and given the seat we're in--it's not really about us. I think it's really about the position. But given that we fill it, you know, what is our responsibility? To disrupt things that before now we weren't aware, you know, we were products of, or now that we are we realize we have a bit of an urgency to leave a legacy or leave things better than where we found them, and I think that's where the activation can happen. That's where we can get [?] without guilting people, right? Without making them defensive. I think it's just the reality of, "Oh, this is all by design, and we're sort of products of this greater architecture. So now what are we gonna do about it?" And if we're not gonna do anything, that's fine too, but then we should stop talking about it. Right? So, like, that's fine. I don't--[laughs] I want to be clear that I don't judge or begrudge that. It's fine. You know, companies and leaders can make those choices, but then stop talking about it. That's where--right?Zach: Yes. That's my rub too. At a certain point it's like, "Look, I'm tired of us talking about diversity being our strength and there not being anybody that looks like me that actually has any type of authority or power." You know, "I'm tired of us always--" Like, not shoehorning in, because no disrespect. We talk about gender in these very, like, binary, exclusionary ways without being intersectional at all with race or sexual identity. We talk about sexual identity in these binary ways without including race. We ignore any race trans identities, particularly trans black female identities. So, like, if we're gonna do this, let's do it. If we're not gonna do it, let's not. It's 2020. Rona or no rona, let's just--let's just be honest. [both laugh]Dr. Thomas: I agree. I mean, you know, that's where folks get disillusioned. That's where, you know, when the word doesn't match the deed, it reads as inauthentic because it frankly is, and I think most companies or leaders within them would be honestly better served to talk a little less about diversity, about inclusion, about equity, [then keep on?], or to raise--you know, raise the bar for themselves, but this weird in-between is just not working, right? It's not working. It's frustrating the folks who are most impacted. And then we see the results, which is very minimal quantitative gains when it comes to actual representation within the workforce. So these things all [?] together. They all relate, so yeah.Zach: They do. Now this is me going off the chart, but it just popped in my--not popped in my head, 'cause I think about it a lot, but we didn't talk about it for this interview. We gotta have you back, Erin, 'cause I really want to talk about in group, out group dynamics and the pressures that marginalized people in positions of authority have to, like, toe the line in that regard or how much they push against to then create inclusive workplaces for people who look like them. 'Cause, like--no, and I recognize that's a big topic, but, like, I just want to say this 'cause it's on the top of my heart and my mind. Like, I've noticed--and I've had these conversations, like, with black folks, like, off the record, right? So, like, in consulting, you know, there's all these different tracks of leadership, and, you know, the highest up is typically managing director or partner, and I've talked to some black partners who I really respect and everything, and I'm like, "Look, how many of you do you meet?" 'Cause the people that I talk to, like, they're with it. Like, they're conscious. They genuinely care. They try to use their access, power and privilege, relative power and privilege, to help other folks that look like them--and I'm talking, like, two people, right? [both laugh] And I asked them like, "Yo, what's going on? Like, why are the rest of y'all a bunch of Clarence Thomases up here? Like, what is this?" And so we had this whole frank discussion about it, but I really want to have you back on, because, like--I don't know. I feel like you and I could have that conversation, but I want to have it because, like--and I had this very... it was not uncomfortable. Wait, let's pause. Everybody stop, everybody. Y'all should know by now. This is, like--we're a couple hundred episodes in, hundreds of episodes in actually of Living Corporate. Y'all know I enjoy awkward conversations, so this exchange I'm about to explain to y'all was not awkward for me. It was awkward for them, okay? It was not awkward for me. So, you know, I had this conversation, and--[Emory makes noise] Oh, goodness, my daughter is loud. Hey, y'all. Y'all, check it out. Y'all hear these vocals by Emory. Don't play. No labels, but, you know, we'll make a SoundCloud soon. So anyway, I was talking to this person and I was like, "Look, the reality is the folks in power only let a certain amount of us in these spaces, okay, and when you see us in these spaces high up, like, to find somebody that looks like us in those spaces who genuinely care, who are not closing doors behind and who are speaking truth to power--" Again, I'm not asking you to come show up in a Kunta Kinte shirt. I'm just saying if you could just--[Dr. Thomas laughs] Okay? If you could just, you know, act like you're black, act like you recognize, you know, experiences. To find those types of people, it's like finding a unicorn with gold teeth, you know what I mean? It's crazy. Dr. Thomas: Yeah, and it's hard for me to speak to personally simply because my role is diversity, right? [both laugh] I'm not here as a [?] professional, I am a diversity expert and researcher. So that's, I guess, a privilege if you will that I hold as a leader in my company, and I recognize that. It was true in my last role too. I was in a consulting firm, and I was on the leadership team, but we were a diversity consulting firm, right? And so even in there you see some of that where, yeah, I had to really reconcile with the fact that I was doing this work and certainly had more latitude to, you know, speak that truth to power than I would if I were in another profession, and at the same time even I find myself vigilant, of course, and protective, of course, of how much is too much, you know? Where do I strike that balance of advocating in ways that people can hear versus that active, you know, operating principle that I called out earlier, you know, [?] folks that healthy discomfort. It's tough. It's a whole level of calculus that I have become I think decent at. I think also though I always--and, you know, we should talk about this another time because we can go real deep into this, right? I always view this dance of, like, on the one hand, any professional--especially any leader--is context switching and code switching all the time, right? Like, that is effective leadership, right? That's effective, but yet when you're a person of color, when you are black--which I can speak to--when you're brown, I think it creates some compunction of, like, "How much of this is playing the game that anyone would play and how much of this is selling out?" And I don't have an answer. I think everyone has their own barometer for that, but it's something I challenge myself on all the time. Like, "What of this feels like me and what of this feels like I'm becoming complicit in something that I don't subscribe to?" And, you know, sometimes I can't really codify when I'm feeling uncomfortable, but I know what I'm feeling, and that's when I have to really check myself and really examine if how I'm showing up or what I'm sharing or advocating is really serving my key audience, which is our marginalized folks at our company.Zach: Yo, so thank you for real. Sound Man, put a little round of applause in here for Erin answering this question off the fly, 'cause we did a pre-production. This was not part of the questions, but it was just something on top of my mind. Thank you so much. Now, look, let's get into this though, because we're just now really at the top of the conversation we planned on having. So look, at the time of us recording this, over 32 million folks have applied for unemployment benefits. At the same time, many companies are trying to retain their employees and keep them engaged in new working environments. I mean, there's even a lot of unofficial conversations happening on companies having pressure to not let go of too many minority employees in the name of just optics and potential legal ramifications. I'm curious, can we talk about this dynamic [?] where tensions may be, particularly for black and brown employees.Dr. Thomas: Sure. I mean, when I hear this question I'm really thinking about it as what are black and brown workers maybe thinking, feeling, [?] with individually if they are still employed, and I think I've seen both--at Upwork it's certainly [?] as well, 'cause obviously I consume research, I consume, you know, thought leadership externally, and I think there's a picture that's sort of forming for me in my head, which is there's a range I think of emotional reactions for folks who are still employed, and I think at its best folks are feeling really grateful of course. Right? It's sort of--going back to operating on a scale of 1 to 10, it's, like, yeah, a very compartmentalized 1 to 10, but, like, we're grateful for the blessings we have, and I think certainly that is true for folks who are in jobs with fair pay and fair benefits. They want to give their all to their employers because their circumstances could be so much worse. And I think especially in, you know, people work, in mission-driven organizations and purposeful organizations, that's incredibly true, you know? I'm seeing more and more come out, for instance, among mental health professionals who are burning out 'cause they're just giving it all. And I think, you know, in normal times it's hard to strike that balance of taking care of others versus yourself, and I think especially now, if folks are lucky to still have some semblance of job security, they're giving a lot, and they're very grateful. I think, towards the more extreme ends of this spectrum of reactions, I'm also seeing certainly some guilt, some comparative guilt, you know, around--there are folks out there who are on the front lines, who are essential workers, who have lost their jobs, and so "Maybe I'm not feeling great about what I'm doing or where I am, but, like, how could I complain?" Right? Like, "How can I explain when--maybe things aren't ideal, but I have so much," and so that's where I start to get--yeah, I get a little nervous about that, but I understand it, right? Like, you won't want to rock the boat right now when employment is so precarious. I think there is, you know, on this extreme end of the spectrum, a bit of grief happening, just--obviously black and brown folks are more likely to have people around them succumbing to this virus, falling ill, being unemployed themselves, and so, you know, folks are at work but breathing different losses that some of their counterparts may not be breathing as directly. And then there's backdrop of fear. Like, even if you feel secure in your job for now, this whole situation is obviously unprecedented. We don't know what will happen to the economy, we don't know what will happen to our companies. And again, the research shows that black and brown folks, and women, are the first to get furloughed, to get laid off, to your point, and we know in secure times black and brown folks are more heavily scrutinized, and I think folks who are still working feel a microscope that may or may not be on them, but it's impossible not to be vigilant about if you're gonna make it out of here with the job you went into this crisis with and if that job is actually the right job for you or if you're feeling beholden to, you know, a vulnerable time in your life. I think it's a very confusing time, but it all goes back to what we were talking about earlier, which is that it's just magnifying some of the sentiments that folks are always feeling. I think there's an overlay of, like, true uncertainty that is pressing, but I think folks are really trying to just get through the day, trying to keep the jobs they have, and, you know, trying not to encounter some of the secondary traumas that come when you lose that job, that security that you have in place. So I'm seeing a whole swirl of things, and the way they look to me basically is people are tired. They are exhausted. They are burning out and, you know, I think they're taking care of themselves a little less than they used to because it feels a little risky to do that.Zach: You segued really well into my next question about, like, black and brown employees and their experience, and it's funny because I was talking to a colleague about this, talking to a workplace colleague about, like, my own experiences, and I was telling him about, like, you know, "I've had some stresses because I've had some friends who almost fell victim to COVID-19," and, you know, they recovered, you know, but I also have acquaintances whose family members have passed, right? So you're right, like, what's on my mind and the stresses and the drama is--just what's on my mind is different throughout the day, or maybe it's just a little more real. Let me not say that other folks--'cause there have been white folks dying from the coronavirus too. So it's like, you know, not about trying to dismiss one to uplift the other. It's just like, "Okay, this is real for you, and it's even more real for me." And so I'm curious, like, you know, can we talk a little bit about what organizations can do during this time to at the very least reduce harm for their black and brown employees?Dr. Thomas: For sure. I think, you know, first I want to say 1. thank goodness for your friends who have recovered, and 2. I'm very sorry for the losses that are close to you, and to your point, I'm sorry for that for everybody. This is--you know, the backdrop to all of this is just... it's really hard to fathom honestly. It's hard for me to, like, wrap my head around the devastation this has caused, and it's just--it's so painful, and I'm sorry that everyone is going through this in some way, 'cause everyone is affected and is going to be in some way by the physical toll that this is taking on people. To that point, you know, I think there's a few things that orgs can do kind of from the top down. I think there's also things certainly that any individual colleague or manager can do for the folks around them, but I'll talk about this on a couple of levels. Sidebar, I always think of the Nick Jonas song "Levels" whenever I'm thinking about how to approach this work. Zach: Now, hold on, what is the Nick Jonas song--'cause see, the only song I know by Nick Jonas is that "I still get jealous--" You know what I'm saying? "[continues singing]."Dr. Thomas: It's about--I'm trying to think of how it goes. It's about "love has levels." "Levels, levels." I don't know the words.Zach: Come on, Erin. Come on. I hear you with the vocals.Dr. Thomas: I know. I gotta find it, but I like him, and I know he has a song called Levels, and I always think about it. It's like, "Oh, levels, take me higher--" I don't know. Levels take me higher. I don't know. It's a terrible song.Zach: It's a terrible song? Okay. Did he have a black choir in the background? [both laugh] Yo, when Nick Jonas came out there, boy, he came out there and they was like, "I still get jealoous." I was like, "What is going on? Jesus ain't got nothing to do with this." I mean, he's a jealous guy. Anyway, moving forward... [both laughing] Dr. Thomas: I'm gonna have to find it, I'm gonna have to sing it and just send you a little audio clip, 'cause I can't even remember the tune, 'cause it's not a memorable song. Love you, Nick.Zach: Okay. [laughs]Dr. Thomas: You know? From the top down, companies, and really I'm talking about leaders, people leaders, diversity leaders, can take care to do a few things. One is--and I saw this during the earlier days of people sheltering in place. I think it's leveled out maybe a bit, at least from my vantage point, but in the beginning there was a lot of corporate messaging--and I think you even see this still in commercials--of, you know, "We're all in this together," and on its face, cool, cool, cool. Like, right, you want to build camaraderie, you want to cohere folks around a shared sense of community, but if you beat that drum a little too long, especially within your company, I think it can kind of err to the side of being colorblind, right, and really minimizing the disproportionate strain that there actually is on employees of color and on black and brown folks. So I think striking that balance of certainly we're all in this together, and also there are distinct experiences that we know folks are grappling with. It's an important sort of dual approach to make sure that your folks who are black and brown know that they're seen, know that they're recognized for their unique experiences through this and the unique impacts that they're encountering. So that's one thing, just sort of take that multicultural lens to those company communications that you're sending out. I think another thing is, you know, wherever you can creating space for employees to uncover and share more about their specific experiences. So, you know, we did this back in April at Upwork. We partnered with Michelle Kim, who I know is a friend of the pod.Zach: Come on. What's up, Michelle J. Kim? Shout-out to Awaken Co. What's up? [imitating air horns]Dr. Thomas: [joins in, Zach laughs] She's awesome, and we sort of co-facilitated I think a 75-minute conversation with leaders of our Asian ERG(s)--and this is before the data about [?] were coming out with regards to black and brown folks, and the conversation was mostly around--in terms of the media--anti-Asian bias and discrimination and racism, so we seized on the timeliness of that conversation and built out, you know, a virtual forum for our employees to share what they were concerned about, what they were hearing in their day-to-day lives and interactions, and to scale out from that, from those stories to give more context to, you know, why are we seeing this, what is this. This is not unique to this moment in time. This is, you know, a pattern repeating, and really come from a place of urgency to educate our folks a little bit more about historical context and why it matters now and certainly what they can do to disrupt and call out bias in themselves and discriminations they're seeing externally. A third thing is certainly around mental health and benefits and resources to aid folks, you know, who are experiencing trauma and grief. And I don't think this just has to be if you've lost someone close to me. I think in general folks are really struggling obviously with anxiety and insomnia, and there's data coming in on that, and so making sure that your company has the right level and amount of bereavement and [leave?] policies, but also just coaching and support with your EAP if you have one or your [?] and getting them at least to a basic level [?] of providing that 1:1 support for folks and hopefully referring them out to medical providers if they need, you know, more professional coaching. And then the last thing, you know, is related to what you were saying about terminations and lay-offs and all that. Every company should be auditing the decisions they're making this time when it comes to furloughs and risks, making sure that they're looking at that through an equity lens, making sure that they're not just focusing on people's kind of positions in the company or tenure, because black and brown folks tend to sit lower in the org and tend to be earlier in their tenure, so really taking a performance-based approach to that analysis can be helpful in getting out of that sort of hamster wheel of, you know, first in first out when it comes to black and brown folks. So those are, you know, top-down, structural considerations that companies can be taking every day. I think on the ground, peers and managers can be doing some of what we've already role modeled in this conversation. Check in with people, my goodness. Just think about who you haven't spoken to in a while. Think about who you might normally pass at, you know, the water cooler or the coffee station, and if you haven't chatted with that person 1:1 in a minute, you know, Slack them, ping them, whatever you've got in terms of internal messaging systems, call them, pick up the phone and check in. Just see how people are doing, and make sure you create, you know, space to actually hear their answer and to actually respond. So, you know, as opposed to the normal "How's it going?" Like, really ask the question and really wait for the answer and be with that person with whatever they share, you know? I think it's really about those personal connections that we probably took for granted when we were back in an office setting, for those of us who were in offices, and that are harder to actualize now, right? Like, we're all home. We're all behind screens, and so there is no organic water cooler conversation. That means we have to make a little bit more effort to reach out to folks and to show them that we care about them, that we're connected to them and that we're a resource, or that the company has resources, for them whenever they need.Zach: I love it, I love it. Now, Erin, you know that we're about real talk in a corporate world like I said at the top of the show. For the executive leader to this and perhaps rolling their eyes or maybe, like, speed listening and being like, "Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know this. Yeah, yeah, yeah," like, you know, just kind of being dismissive as to the gravity of this and why this matters. Why should folks have an inclusive and equitable lens during this time, and then what's the potential fallout in your mind if they don't?Dr. Thomas: I have so many reactions to this question. I think, first, if someone's rolling their eyes to this, which... yeah, could be true, I'll just, like, emphatically say that's not my key audience. Like, I'm just not--you know, I'm really not, and I'm just not. That's not my sweet spot. There were times earlier in my career where that was, where I found it fun to really push the business case for equity, business case for diversity. I am not interested in that anymore, and thankfully I'm in an org where I don't have to do that. Like, kudos to those of you who are doing that. Frankly, for me personally, that's ineffective, right? You know, people do not make decisions based on facts or data. So, you know, I could stand here and talk about the research that's been done. You know, Great Place to Work just did a study around [?], right, and they showed that those who focused on inclusion did better during the recession and saw more returns. So, like, I could share all those stats and all that, but it doesn't matter. Like, if you're rolling your eyes, if you are asking why or if, like, it's probably not gonna happen for you. Just call it, you know--because you can Google it, you can ask Siri, you can ask Jeeves, you can do whatever you want to do, but, like--Zach: [laughing] Not ask Jeeves.Dr. Thomas: [laughing] You can go back to Jeeves if you have to, but my point is that this is not how people make decisions. People make decisions emotionally. They do what they want to do and then they rationalize it later. That is a fact. Zach: That is a fact.Dr. Thomas: You know, it is. And that's science. [laughs] And so if you're not in any way emotionally inclined to care, nothing I say, no data point is gonna make you care. So I think that's one thing. Like, I am impatient and frankly, especially with, you know, decades of research that I think has really caught on in industry, we're just past the point of denying the value proposition of diversity. I think it wastes calories. I think it distracts from the meaningful question, which is, like, how we can go about it during this time or, you know, what we should be prioritizing. I think those are fair questions, but if you're, for whatever strange reason, listening to this podcast and rolling your eyes, like, I don't have time for it. I just don't. I don't. And already that was too much time explaining how I don't have time for it. So that's my quick reaction to that. [both laughing] I think those who are kind of, you know, struggling with how to go about this or where to maybe invest less or more, that's incredibly fair. I think that is incredibly challenging. So what I would say there is just--it goes back to what we talking about earlier. I mean, this is life and death, right? It does not get more real in terms of a call to action than this moment in time, and I think every leader should sit themselves down and critically examine what legacy they want to leave, you know? This is the time for companies to demonstrate what living values, living their values actually looks like. It's their time to pressure test, you know, different mantras that companies love to share around, you know, authentic selves at work, or "Bring your whole selves to work," because you saying--it goes back to what we were talking about earlier. You're saying those things... well, here's your moment. Here's your moment to [know?] what it really means, and that's true at the company level, it's true at that personal level. Hopefully you're inclined to want to dig more deeply into what actualizing on your commitments actually could mean right now, and I think that's the place to get really serious about where are the potential gaps between what you're saying and doing. And as we said earlier, you know, if you realize "Huh, even in these most dire circumstances, we're maybe not really ready to make the investment that we might need to actually move the needle or create the environment that our people need." Okay. That's a tough conclusion to come to, but okay.Zach: That's responsible though, right?Dr. Thomas: Right. Yeah. I mean, and then okay, well, then you have to communicate that back, but if you have been talking a game for a while and are realizing you want to step it up, that's amazing, and I think from there what you can be doing is really leveraging external leaders--I mean, there's a lot of information, tools that are free. You could certainly and should be always leveraging your internal employees or workers however they want to be leveraged to help you reveal your blind spots. But this is it. Like, this is the moment, and hopefully orgs will really step it up and leave a footprint that I think can last for generations. You know, what companies do now I think is going to reset how people see them in the public light, how people see them as an employer of choice or not, and so it's a critical kind of come to Jesus moment hopefully for leaders and orgs to double down or to de-emphasize the things that we've been talking about for a while.Zach: Yo. Man, I mean this has just been an incredible conversation. I would be remiss not to drop a Flex bomb right here, and then also some air horns, put 'em in right here. Okay, there we go. Erin, before we let you go--before Emory and I, excuse me, let you go, any parting words or shout-outs? I know you've been dropping wild gems this entire time, but I just want to give you one last--you know, where they can find you, what you're excited about with Upwork, anything. Give you time to plug.Dr. Thomas: Oh, goodness. Okay, I did not prepare for this. I have so many people to thank. I would say find me on Twitter. That's it. Please don't try to find me on LinkedIn. I don't respond on LinkedIn. Real talk. It's just too cluttered. So ErinLThomasPhD is my Twitter handle. I would say check out Upwork. I have been a lot of places. I have led diversity within two other organizations before now. I've been an expert consultant. I've seen a lot of what companies are doing, and I wouldn't be at Upwork if I weren't rabidly passionate about what we're doing and about all of the magic ingredients that attracted me to our company. So I'd love for folks to check us out. Come work with us. We're a great, amazing, purposeful company doing great work, with cool leaders like me, so come on through.Zach: I mean, this is the best ad I could imagine. [both laugh] All right, y'all, you know what it is. We're having real talk in a corporate world. I'm saying it, like, three times this time, but you know we amplify and center marginalized, underappreciated, underrepresented, undersupported, underestimated voices at work, and look, you can check us out anywhere, okay? Look, we're all over Barack Obama's internet. You just Google Living Corporate, okay? We're gonna pop up. We're there, okay? We're all over. Check us out on Twitter @LivingCorp_Pod, @LivingCorporate on Instagram. Shoot, if you old school and you're like, "Nah, Zach. I gotta go in the browser and type in the domain like a true OG," then I'ma say, "Okay, cool," and I'ma tell you www.living-corporate.com, please say the dash, or livingcorporate.co, livingcorporate.us, livingcorporate.tv, livingcorporate.org, livingcorporate.net. We got all of the Living Corporates except livingcorporate.com, so if you type in livingcorporate.com and Living Corporate does not pop up do not be mad at me, 'cause I told you already we don't got that one. We got all the other livingcorporates, or living-corporate.com--please say the dash, all right? You can also email us at livingcorporatepodcast@gmail.com. You can also DM us, okay? DMs are wide open. We are not afraid of the random DM. Just hit us up. We'll make sure we hit you back. If you have a listener letter, you know, you could submit it right there. We'll answer it on the show. We got a decent number. We try to get to a critical mass so we can answer a few, and then we kind of make that an episode. Just so y'all you know. It's, like, a peek behind the curtain. Until next time, y'all. This has been Zach, and you've been listenimg to Dr. Erin Thomas of Upwork. Me and Emory are gonna catch y'all later. Emory, you got anything to say? [Emory's silent] Nope? All right, y'all. Peace.

Anxiety, Violence, Opportunity, and More in Process Hacker News from Hack the Process Podcast Welcome to the Process Hacker News, your roundup of useful news and updates from Process Hackers who have been guests on Hack the Process with M. David Green. This episode we’ve got anxiety, violence, opportunity, and more. For all the links, check out the show notes: https://www.hacktheprocess.com/anxiety-violence-opportunity-and-more-in-process-hacker-news-from-hack-the-process-podcast/ Enjoy! Media The Global Coworking Diaries is a project put together by Alex Hillman and Kali Norman, interviewing community leaders around the world about how the current health crisis has affected coworking. The pandemic has created a lot of disruption in our lives, but Andrew Nance wants to help ease your anxiety with some mindful breathing exercises. How did Maria Dismondy become a children’s book author? Find out in her new interview on the Coach Azul Podcast. Join Rhonda Magee and Dan Harris on Ten Percent Happier as they teach you to meditate and stop toxic tendencies.. Despite the current economic uncertainty, it’s still a good time to build your business from scratch. Tune in to Tom Morkes’s conversation with Jovana Miljanovic to lean how. Writing The Innovator’s Spirit, a new book by Chuck Swoboda just came out, and it’s already a bestseller, reaching number one among Amazon’s new release books! Congratulations, Chuck! In light of ongoing police violence against the Black community in the United States, Michelle Kim suggests twenty actions Asian Americans can take to show allyship. As a business owner, Zvi Band‘s latest article talks about the value of being transparent to your team and your stakeholders. A new blog post by Safi Bahcall features Michael Farzan, the Scripps Research virologist who worked on SARS, who mentions how Covid-19 is a dumb virus compared to HIV and Influenza. Recommended Resources Many people are having a hard time with their finances while sheltering in place. In an interview with Today, Ramit Sethi, a personal finance pro referenced by Maneesh Sethi, proposes ways to manage bills and credit card fees through strategic planning and negotiation. Salesforce CEO Marc Benioff is the topic of an article in Business Insider because he took a 90-day no lay-off pledge and is urging other CEOs to help their employees through the coronavirus by doing the same. Marc was one of the folks mentioned by Tiffani Bova in her interview. As we adapt to life during and after the pandemic, we have the opportunity now to prepare for a better future by prioritizing justice, diversity, and inclusion. Tiffany Jana, mentioned during the interview with Joy Wiggins and Kami Anderson, issues a call for us to focus on equity in her blog post. Thanks for checking out this Process Hacker News update from Hack the Process. If you liked what you saw, please leave a comment to let us know what processes you’re hacking.

Michelle Kim is the Co-Founder and CEO of Awaken and this episode’s guest for our Stand Against Racism mini-series for Organize Your Butterflies! As we continue to do the work of justice, we recognize how important it is to elevate the stories of those who are working at the ground-level and providing resources for those who are curious about building equitable, accepting, and compassionate spaces for all people. Michelle’s work with Awaken provides these resources through workshops at companies and organizations of all sizes, and we are proud to feature her and her story, as she and her team work to build a more just world. To find out more about Michelle, be sure to follow her on Twitter and read up on her Medium articles!

In today’s episode, I interview a very special guest, Michelle Kim. Michelle is a Top Producing Realtor and founder of Mosaik Real Estate in San Francisco, as well as a homeowner. She recently purchased a 2-unit building and underwent a full renovation just in time to move-in before the shelter in place initiative went into effect. Michelle shares her insight from both perspectives and provides tips and mistakes to avoid. We also touch on the current state of Real Estate during this coronavirus pandemic. Get your earbuds ready for a jam-packed episode!Today’s episode is brought to you by The Renovation Planner™, a physical planner with an amazing framework created to guide you through the home renovation process from start to finish. If you want to learn MORE about how you can plan and manage your home renovation project successfully, click here! LINKS MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE>>The Renovation Planner™ >>Michelle Kim, Mosaik Real Estate SOCIAL MEDIA LINKS>> Facebook>> Instagram

Join Change Catalyst Founder & CEO Melinda Briana Epler for the first installment in a new series: Leading With Empathy & Allyship. In this first episode, Melinda focuses on countering xenophobia in the workplace with Michelle Kim, Co-Founder and CEO of Awaken.In this episode, Melinda and Michelle have an important conversation about: Defining xenophobia and anti-Asian racism, harassment, and bullying during COVID-19 and beyondIntersectionality and the myth of the “model minority”Holding ourselves accountable as allies and accomplicesPractical ways companies can address these issues in the workplace⭑⭑If this is helpful, don't forget to subscribe to the podcast and like this episode!⭑⭑Additional Resources➡ Awaken's virtual training on combating xenophobia: visionawaken.com/virtual➡ "Allyship (& Accomplice): The What, Why, and How" by Michelle Kim: tcin.co/MichelleKimAllyship➡ Coronavirus fears show how ‘model minority' Asian Americans become the ‘yellow peril' by Matthew Lee, NBC News: tcin.co/NBCModelMinorityinCOVID➡ Report Hate Crimes and Incidents via Stop APPI Hate: tcin.co/StopAPPIHateThank you to our in-kind sponsor Interpreter-Now for providing high-quality ASL interpretation. Learn more at interpreter-now.comFor more about Change Catalyst, and to join us for a live recording, visit changecatalyst.co/allyshipseries.Support this series: patreon.com/changecatalystsConnect On SocialYouTube: youtube.com/c/changecatalystTwitter: twitter.com/changecatalystsFacebook: facebook.com/changecatalystsLinkedIn: linkedin.com/company/changecatalystsSupport the show (http://patreon.com/changecatalysts)

Welcome to the Process Hacker News, your roundup of useful news and updates from Process Hackers who have been guests on Hack the Process with M. David Green. This week we’ve got momentum, impactful ideas, terrible leaders, and more. For all the links, check out the show notes: https://www.hacktheprocess.com/momentum-impactful-ideas-terrible-leaders-and-more-in-process-hacker-news/ Enjoy! Events Brian Solis will be one of the keynote speakers at the Future of Marketing Conference on February 19 at the Georgia Aquarium in Atlanta. Media Malcolm Gladwell has published a new book called Talking to Strangers. Find out what it’s all about as Omar Zenhom breaks down the invaluable lessons he found in there. Tom Morkes is joined on his podcast by Jonathan Keyser, the CEO of Arizona’s largest tenant rep commercial real estate firm, who talks about how he grew his business, how he trains leaders thru the Keyser Institute, and how you don’t have to be ruthless to win. Writing All You Have to Do is Ask, the new book by our latest Hack the Process guest, Dr. Wayne Baker, is now available. Go get your copy today and give yourself permission to ask for the help you want. Leadership teams can be high-performing powerhouses, but they can also set a bad example in the organization. In Ron Carucci’s new Forbes article, he points out the pitfalls of tolerating bad behavior within leadership groups. Being a parent is all about great child-rearing, and Maria Dismondy wants to help you out with a list of parenting books to raise kind and caring kids. Wouldn’t you love to have a one-hour work week? Jon Dykstra weighs the pros and cons if he were to work one hour a week and still try to grow his online publishing company. Turning Ideas Into Impact is a new book out on the Think Aha website that gathers insights about leadership skills from sixteen women who are Silicon Valley consultants, including the book’s co-author, Kimberly Wiefling. Recommended Resources SXSW 2020 is happening from March 13 to 22 in Austin, Texas, featuring speakers Tim Ferriss and Brene Brown, who jointly inspired Hack the Process guests Michelle Kim, Omar Zenhom, Alex Cespedes, Vinay Patankar, Malek Banoun, Heather Chauvin, and Kate Swoboda. You can now get the expanded version of Love Yourself Like Your Life Depends on It by Kamal Ravikant. Marissa Orr found motivation in Kamal’s books. Blasting Through Blocks is a new workshop by Julia Cameron, who was mentioned as a resource by Loic Le Meur, Jay Wong, and Heather Chauvin. Thanks for checking out this Process Hacker News update from Hack the Process. If you liked what you saw, please leave a comment to let us know what processes you’re hacking.

Zach chats with Michelle Kim, co-founder and CEO of Awaken, in this episode centered around effectively creating inclusive leadership cultures. Michelle shares her journey into social justice work with us, including what led to the creation of Awaken, and she explains why she and her organization prioritize the needs of the most marginalized people in the room.Connect with Michelle - she's on Twitter, Instagram, and LinkedIn!Check out Awaken's website and social media pages! Twitter, IG, FB, LinkedInYou can read Awaken's Medium blog by clicking here.Want to learn more about Build Tech We Trust? Here's their website and Twitter!Click here to read the Salon piece mentioned in the show.Visit our website!TRANSCRIPTZach: What's up, everybody? It's Zach. Yes, again, it's me. Your boy, your host, your friend, your co-worker--maybe your co-worker, I don't know. If you work with me you know that I have this podcast, and, I mean, hopefully if you're checking it out, you know, hopefully you're having a good time. Shout-out to you. I'm not gonna say your name, but you know I'm talking to you. What's up? Look, you know what we do. We serve to amplify the voices of black and brown people at work, and we do that by talking to black and brown people in a variety of spaces, right? So these could be executives, public servants, activists, creatives, entrepreneurs, anybody, and we try to have these conversations in approachable and authentic ways, centering black and brown and otherwise underrepresented experiences and perspectives at work, and today we have with us a very special guest, Michelle Kim. Michelle is the founder and CEO of Awaken, a firm that empowers leaders and teams to lead inclusively and authentically through modern interactive and action-oriented workshops. Prior to Awaken, she had a successful consulting career working with C-suite and VP-level executives at high-performing companies around the world, helping them set ambitious business goals and align their teams to achieve them. While working in management consulting and technology start-ups, she experienced and validated first-hand the urgent need for modern, up-to-date education that empowers leaders to be more empathetic, agile, and culturally aware. Come on, now. Culturally aware. Pay attention. Michelle's experience in organizational change management, strategic goal setting and social justice activism set the groundwork for Awaken's multi-disciplinary and action-oriented learning programs. As an immigrant queer woman of color, Michelle has been a life-long social justice activist and community organizer. Michelle, what's going on? Welcome to the show.Michelle: Hey, thank you for having me. I'm so honored.[yay sfx]Zach: No doubt. It's a pleasure. It's a pleasure. Michelle: Those are the sound effects that you told me about. [laughing]Zach: Yes, yes. So for those who are newer to the show, I have a soundboard. I have all types of sounds on here, you know what I'm saying? You know, we add a few things from time to time, and, you know, just enjoy yourself. If you're new to this space, sit back, grab something to drink--it doesn't have to be alcoholic, you know? I respect your choices, your boundaries. But enjoy the soundscapes that are gonna be coming to you in this episode and many more to come.Michelle: I love the production.Zach: You know what? We gotta add a little bit of razzmatazz, just from time to time. So let's do this. You know, I gave a little bit of an intro, but for those of us who don't know you, would you mind telling us a little bit about yourself?Michelle: Sure. Hi, everyone. Thanks for having me. Thanks, Zach, for the intro. I think you covered a lot in my intro, but I think something that some people might be familiar with is actually my writing. I am an [?] writer. That's how I communicate my thoughts and perspectives to the world, in addition to facilitating workshops and doing speaking like this one or on stages all over the country. My passion is in really closing the gap between how we talk about social justice in our society today and how, you know, quote-unquote diversity and inclusion gets done, and quickly. So I think that there's a lot of work that we can do to help bridge the gap in understanding and awareness of how we communicate with each other. And also a fun fact about me is I'm a Virgo.Zach: Shout-out to Virgos. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Wait a minute. You said you're a Virgo?Michelle: I'm a Virgo.Zach: Man, shout-out to the Virgos one time. I'm also a Virgo. [air horns sfx] You know what I'm saying? They don't know about us like that. But please, tell us about your Virgoness.Michelle: You know, a lot of my friends who know me closely know my tendencies to be highly critical, but I also think that's what--I think being critical gets a bad rep, but I actually think that being critical is what makes me decent at my job. I also think that I have perfectionist tendencies, which I don't think is healthy, so I'm working on that. I like being organized. I am a huge fan of to-do lists. And I love--my love language is acts of service, so I think that also aligns with me being a Virgo. So I tend to, you know, go overboard when it comes to supporting other people, sometimes to a fault, 'cause I need to prioritize self-care and boundaries and all of that, but I'm not. I'm not perfect at that stuff.Zach: I just feel so--I feel so seen in you talking about yourself.Michelle: [laughing] Good. I'm glad, I'm glad. Virgos unite.Zach: They do. And honestly, like, you know, here we are, two people who over-extend for others sitting down, having a conversation that really helps to amplify one another. Isn't that something? [look at us sfx] Not me, you know what I'm saying?Michelle: That's right.Zach: [laughs] You were about to say something.Michelle: I said "Do you know who else is a Virgo?"Zach: Beyonce.Michelle: Beyonce's a Virgo. So whenever I feel like I need to be [?] about being a Virgo, I look to Beyonce for inspiration.[ow sfx]Zach: I'm right there with you. I mean, if she can do it, certainly I can do it. And, you know, my dad's a Virgo, so shout-out to my dad. He was born on the 6th, I was born on the 4th, and, you know, we're a lot alike. Okay, so yeah. Let's talk a little bit about your inspiration for social justice, and I really want to--'cause social justice is such a broad term. It's often even, like, used as a pejorative these days. So, like, when you say social justice in, like, your history, what does that look like for you?Michelle: That's a great question. My journey into social justice work really began with the lens of being a queer person. You know, I think my journey really started with my coming out. So I came out as queer and bisexual when I was 16. So I was in high school, and I was really confused. I didn't know about, you know, any social justice issues beyond--I think what people were talking about then were women's rights, and, you know, now I understand that to be white women's rights, but we'll get into that more. But when I came out as queer I didn't have a lot of resources, so I was really actively searching for community and support to make sense of who I was [and what I could do about my identity.] I was really fortunate to have found a great support group within my high school that was kind of an underground support group, and through that I found out about this program happening out of UC Santa Barbara where they were doing youth activism summer camp kind of stuff for LGBTQ young people. So that was my entryway into social justice work, and that's where I learned how to organize, how to, you know, stage protests and knowing my rights as a student activist, and that's where I learned about social justice activism and writers who wrote about social justice, like Audre Lorde. So that was my entryway into understanding social justice, is through the frame of my being queer and learning from queer trans activists, also young people, and that's also where I learned about the intersections of being queer and also being a person of color and all of the nuances of the different identities and the intersections of different types of marginalization and oppression and how often times they all come from the same root and source of, you know, patriarchy or white supremacy. So, you know, I'm throwing a lot of [?] here, but really at the end of it, for me social justice is about, you know, understanding that we're all in this struggle together, and in order for us to achieve equity and equality and justice that we need to have solidarity in this frame of social justice.Zach: And so I'm really curious, right? Let me talk to you a little bit about my perspective, it being singular and limited, right? So I don't believe this is the way it is. This has been, like, my perception as I look--a cishet black man, Christian black man, looking across this, like, D&I space, right? Like, I'm seeing, like, different camps and groups, right? So I see this group that is largely white and who--like, they're invited to a lot of the fancy things, but they're not necessarily credentialed other than being in a certain social strata, but they're not really credentialed in any type of lived experience, nor are they credentialed in any specific level of education, but they're credentialed in, like, certain experiences from, like, again, just being in certain spaces, right, that are afforded to them because of their class and race. I then see another group of people that are very much so, like, activists. Like, they're on the street. If they're using social media, it's to mobilize something tangible. It's to affect a change in some type of grassroots community level. And then I see, like, another group that is kind of--like, they're in the corporate space and they're doing a few things, but they're not necessarily really, like, enacting anything beyond whatever the company needs them to do to kind of mitigate litigious risk, but I think--I'm kind of seeing, like, tensions against each of these groups. I'm curious about, like, your perspective, considering your social activist background and the work you do today. Do you see similar camps in the space, and, like, if not, what are you seeing? Do you think I'm oversimplifying kind of, like, the various camps and groups, or, like, what's your perspective on that?Michelle: I don't think you're oversimplifying per se, 'cause I do see what you're saying. I hear you in terms of there being different--because identities [are?] also a different approach to doing diversity and inclusion work inside the workplace. I think--a couple things that I want to clarify in terms of my beliefs is that I don't think anyone can truly call themselves a D&I expert. I certainly don't call myself a D&I expert, because I believe fundamentally diversity and inclusion is about lived experiences, so it's all about how we make sense of our lived experiences in relation to the systems that we inhabit, so I think everybody's an expert in their own lived experience, and I can't ever claim that I'm an expert in your life, right? So I think that's one belief that I have, that we all are experts in our owned lived experiences. And then another belief that I have is that, you know, social justice activism isn't just about being out in the street and marching and protesting. You know, there's a lot of activism happening inside of workplaces today as well through corporate activism, but also just daily acts of survival for a lot of folks, especially black and brown people, underrepresented people of color and trans and queer people inside workplaces. I think what they're doing, just by mere survival and speaking up when they can, is an act of activism. I think there is a greater sense of responsibility that I'd love for D&I professionals to have, whether they're inside or outside of the workplaces, in really making sense of how change happens and pushing the boundaries to serve the most marginalized people in the room. I think that's where my criticality comes in, when you start to talk about mostly white--I think I've seen a lot of white women take up the role of head of D&I. That's where I start to question whether, you know, are they understanding the positionality of being a white person, doing this work inside workplaces, holding a position of power? And, you know, I start to question sort of how change is being [assisted?] inside companies while prioritizing the needs of the most marginalized people. So I do think that people without the social justice frame, as in--you know, I think the root of my education and the foundation of my social justice education that I've gotten from, you know, activists who were organizers at the community level, what they've taught me is that in order for us to enact change, we need community, we need solidarity, and we need to approach everything through the lens of centering the most marginalized people and their needs, 'cause then everybody in-between and all of us will rise together. So that is sort of my approach when it comes to education or policies, whatever organizational design we're talking about. If we can center the most marginalized people, then everybody else will benefit. So that's the social justice framing that I use to approach all of my work, but I think I see some D&I people in the corporate space doing D&I work as if this is a new discipline that's not tied to social justice at all, right? That this is--in a vacuum, this is just about recruiting the most, you know, diverse set of candidates, that it's about retaining those people once they get there, but it's sort of in a vacuum without the understanding of systemic issues and history that has fueled D&I to exist in the first place. I think that's my biggest sort of criticism about how D&I gets done in the corporate space today.Zach: And I get that, right? It resonates with me, which is why I was so excited, because I really enjoyed--like, I've read some of your written work, and of course I follow you on social media. I love what Awaken is doing, right? And really, based on what you're sharing, I'm curious, how does that translate into the work that Awaken does? Because everything you're saying, I'm hearing it, right? But I guess I'm trying to understand--how does that effectively translate in majority-white spaces in the work that--and I'm making an assumption that the spaces that you engage are largely white. If they're not correct me, but from what I'm looking at it seems like the spaces are largely white, and it seems to be that when I talk to other D&I professionals, the subtext of a lot of the work, and even some of the, like, backhanded critique that I've received--because I'm often times received as "Well, you're passionate, but you're not really credentialed, right?" Like, "You're a person of color and you have a certain lived experience, but, you know, you don't have the same foundation that I may have as a quote-unquote D&I expert, so your point of view only goes so far," or it's only limited to the black experience. There seems to be, like, a subtext of "Let's not make people too uncomfortable," but the work that you're talking about in centering underrepresented or the most marginalized, that--I feel as if the argument could be made that you're automatically making other people uncomfortable. So again, just what does all of that look like as it translates into your work with Awaken?Michelle: Yeah, that's a great question. And I'm also so curious about these credentials, right? [both laughing] 'Cause I see these credential programs or certification programs. Like, what are you certifying people for? I'm so curious. I think there are absolutely some skills that we can learn, whether that's facilitation or curriculum development or policy design, that we can get better at, but in terms of understanding other people's lived experiences and the identities that folks hold and the complexities that come with that, I don't know if we can truly ever be credentialed enough to be, you know, discounting other people's experiences and opinions. So that's my perspective on it. And in terms of how our approach translates into our work, you know, I think we can talk about sort of the founding story, why we were created in the first place. So, you know, after having done organizing work when I was in high school and college, I decided to pursue a career in, you know, the for-profit space because I needed to make money, let's be real, and I was told actually by my activist mentors, who have gone onto pursuing social justice careers as career organizers and non-profit folks, that they were also experiencing very sort of similar harm, because even non-profits are predominantly led by white people, right? So I think the issues that we think are non-existent in progressive--quote-unquote "more progressive" spaces, they continue to exist, while folks are not making enough money to make ends meet. So--[straight up sfx]Michelle: [laughs] I love the sound effects. Knowing that and knowing my situation as a--you know, I grew up low-income, and I needed money to support my family. The advice I got from my mentors was "Hey, you can create change in certain spaces." They warned me about the toxic culture, but I went in sort of ignorant about what I was getting myself into. So I also really am grateful for my journey, having started my career in management consulting and in tech. I think I have experienced a lot of different things that I wasn't ready for but I'm grateful for nonetheless. But when I entered in those spaces, I was exposed to and I searched for D&I spaces, right? Because I thought that that was what I knew to be social justice work. So when I joined an employee resource group, I was, you know, disappointed at the level of conversations that were being had around what it means to be inclusive, what it means to be a diverse place, and I was surprised and disappointed and disillusioned by what companies were talking about as D&I was quite surface-level and marketing-oriented rather than real actionable behavioral change or cultural change that were being modeled by leaders of the company. So, you know, I was going through different workshops and trainings and just kept feeling like I was not seeing the level of conversations that actually needed to take place in these spaces, and it felt really safe. It felt safe. It felt white-washed. It felt diluted. As, you know, somebody who was just sitting in the room and constantly challenging the facilitator, I felt like I was doing all of the work. [Zach laughs] And after the [?] is over, you know, unfortunately the burden of re-educating other people who went through the workshop who now thinks that they are quote-unquote "woke" or who say that they checked the box, right? "Okay, we went through this unconscious bias training, so now we're good. Now I'm back to being a progressive person who cares about this issue." [Zach laughs] You know, [it was?] a challenge to really think differently, but the burden of their action, their unchanging behavior, their unawareness, and they're now feeling like they know what they're talking about, falls on the most marginalized people in the room, and I think that was a frustration that kept coming up for me as I was going through different types of trainings, whether that was done by external vendors or internal people, that people weren't pushing people enough, and I genuinely felt the need for a compassionate space for uncomfortable conversations, and that's our mission statement, to create a compassionate space for uncomfortable conversations to developing inclusive leaders and teams, and the way that we do that is by centering the needs of the most marginalized people, meaning we don't pat on ourselves on the back when a workshop goes well from the perspective of a bunch of white men saying that that workshop was great, you know? That may be true, but if, you know, the one black person in the room says that that workshop wasn't good while a bunch of white people say that the workshop was great, we don't pat ourselves on the back for that, right? But if we can support the most marginalized people in the room, you know, in tech and also in many other spaces as predominantly black and brown folks, trans, queer, people of color, if they give us the stamp of approval, if they feel like they were seen and heard and lifted and that they didn't have to do all the work, that's success for us, right? So by designing our curriculum to speak truth to them and to, you know, have that frame of "Can we lessen the burden on people who are the most marginalized in these spaces by saying the things that they can't say because there are too many risks and repercussions that they fear?" That's our job, and I don't think enough D&I practitioners out there are taking that approach, because, you know, if they're internal, their job is at risk. I get that. So I think as a third-party, we coming in--we have a different level of risk that we get to take because we don't have that kind of repercussion that we need to worry about, besides not being able to come back to that place again.Zach: Right. And, I mean, at that point that, you know, they don't let you back, I mean, you already got the bag anyway, so... [cha-ching sfx] You know? Michelle: [laughs] Well, and usually we can come back, because we don't often take on one-off workshops. I think that approach is pretty harmful, and, you know, companies come to us and say, "Hey, we just want to do a one-day, like, [?]." We tend to say no to those engagements because we really believe in delivering impact and working with people who are genuinely interested in real change. So, you know, I think the mistake people make is thinking that meeting people where they're at needs to be done by diluting the message. I don't think that's true. You can meet people where they're at with compassion and criticality. So you don't have to coddle people, but I think you can be compacted and make your content accessible for folks that they understand and they can move along the journey while feeling and embracing some tension and discomfort that comes with challenging their beliefs.Zach: So it's funny, because you see, like, even in, like, our current political tone and tambor today from, like, mainstream media, it's still around, like, the idea of respectability and quote-unquote kindness, kind of pushing against this idea of, like, call-out culture or just, like, keeping it real, like, just saying how things are, and it's interesting, and I hear what you're saying about, like, coddling versus accessibility. Do you have an example of what it looks like to effectively call something for what it is while at the same time making it accessible for folks to actually grasp and understand. Like, I don't think there's enough work that you could do to cater to or mitigate against fragility, but I would love to hear, like, kind of what Awaken does and, like, what that looks like for you.Michelle: Mm-hmm. Hm, let me think of an example. I think that's a great question, and I'd love to be able to contextualize it just a little though with an example. I think--I don't know why this example keeps coming up in my head. I think it's because we're designing a curriculum right now around inclusive interviewing practices, and one of the common questions that comes up is this idea of not lowering the bar and hiring in this sort of notion of meritocracy, and I think, you know, one way to approach that is really sort of making the person who said that feel like they don't know what they're talking about and, you know, calling them racist and all of that... I think is one way. [both laugh] I think another way could be really helping unpack why meritocracy doesn't currently exist, even though that is an ideal that we can strive for together, and how people who are currently in companies today may not have been hired purely based on merit. Zach: And how do you prove that though?Michelle: How do you prove that?Zach: Yeah.Michelle: I think there's a lot of data that actually backs up the claim around how meritocracy doesn't exist. I mean, what we often talk about is that, you know, meritocracy is a concept that was created as a vision that we can all work toward, but we falsely believe that right now there is sort of meritocracy in a sense, but there's lots of data that shows that actually there's a lot of biases in the hiring process, whether it's from the referral stage or, you know, the interview stage or the deliberation stage. I think there's a lot of data that actually shows discrepancies in the ways that we make decisions, and I think, you know, calling that out specifically I think is really helpful. I think the harmful alternative of sort of diluting that fact of, you know, not having meritocracy is that I have sometimes heard, you know, folks explain that to people in a way that actually equates hiring people of color or women as lowering the bar and that being sort of the, you know, unfortunate short-term solution. Like, yeah, but we need to hire more people of color and women, so, you know, we want to make sure that we are getting that quota filled. So I think there's, like, a lot of weird ways of people explaining difficult concepts to make people feel comfortable, because the discomfort in this conversation is the fact that you may not have been hired based on your merit, right? I think that's the tension, is that if we debunk meritocracy, people who have these jobs in higher-paying positions, they are feeling attacked because they feel like they warrant--they didn't get to where they are purely based on merit, and recognizing that they've had privileges that weren't afforded to another demographic groups, I think that in and of itself is the discomfort, and I think a lot of folks have a hard time calling that out, because we're then directly sort of highlighting the fact this may be an awful position that they're in. And I think talking about privilege in general is something that's really difficult for people. It's not an easy topic for any of us to really grapple with, but I think if we can't have those tougher conversations where we are directly highlighting and shining light on the fact that, you know, there are--"Yes, we worked hard, and there are struggles that we didn't have to go through to get to where they are." I think if that conversation doesn't happen, it would be a huge miss.Zach: You know, Michelle, when you and I first spoke, you know--we do our thing, we try to get to know each other first, and then we do the episode. A little bit of background behind the scenes for y'all, but anyway, when you and I first spoke we talked about people of color and that term, right? And we had conversations about Living Corporate and how, you know, we don't really use the term "people of color," we say black and brown. And then you and I had a conversation about how you don't really consider, or you don't count, Asian-American or, like, that space, East Asian, in the "people of color" category. Can you talk to me a little bit more about that?Michelle: Yeah. I think that's a great question. So I think, just to clarify, I do count Asians as a part of the people of color community, but I think there's context that we need to put into place whenever we're using the term. So I think the term people of color is a useful term when we're talking specifically about non-white people in the context of talking about white supremacy and how that impacts all people who are not white who experience racism and other forms of oppression because of their race. Where I don't feel comfortable using the term people of color is when we're discussing specific issues that impact black and brown communities. For example, when we're talking about police brutality or the murders of black trans women, I think it's really important for us to be specific about who we're talking about, because as an East Asian person, I don't have the same type of fear or risk when I'm around police. I think that is really important for us to specify, and I think that understanding around how there are very specific forms of racism, like anti-black racism. I think that clarity is so needed in having this conversation in a more effective way, and also for, you know, Asian-American folks to be able to show up in solidarity with folks who are experiencing very specific forms of marginalization. Zach: I just... you know, one sound we don't have on the soundboard is, like, finger snaps. [snapping fingers] But I'ma put these in there. Yeah, I love it. And it's interesting because, you know, we're moving at the speed of the Internet when it comes to a lot of this stuff, right? And certain things become trendy or become--I don't know. They kind of just catch fire, and I think the term people of color, it has a place, and I've seen it be used interchangably when people are just talking about black folk, right? It's like, "Why are we using that term right now when--" If we're really talking about something targeted for black Americans, if we're talking about something that's targeted for Latinx trans Americans--these groups, as niche or as just unique or small as they may seem to you, these represent actual human beings. So I think it's great that we're using them, but sometimes for me--it sometimes almost gets used as, like, a catch-all, and you end up erasing a lot of identities and experiences and points of view.Michelle: Totally, and I think if we can't be specific about the actual issue, then how can we solution around it, right? If we can't name what the actual issue is? It's not police brutality against all people of color, right? It's [?] against black and brown people specifically, you know? People who are seen as a quote-unquote "threat" to cops. I think it's really important for us to get specific around that so that we can solution around it, because it wouldn't make sense for us to do--you know, to solve for all people of color experiencing police brutality because that's not true. I think, you know, when we talk about black maternal [debts?], that's not happening to Asian-Americans that it's happening to black folks who are giving birth. So, you know, I think specificity is important for solutioning the right outcomes, and also, like you said, it doesn't erase people's experiences. I think tech is starting to incorporate more of the term around underrepresented POC, because, you know, Asian-Americans are overrepresented in many tech companies, but, you know, Asian-American also, similar to POC, is a very broad terminology, so I'd love to be able to see some dis-aggregated terms that we can use to also talk about underrepresented Asian-Americans. But yeah, I think specific language is always helpful in most cases, and I think there's also purpose to the term people of color when we can really mobilize and build a coalition across all people of color.Zach: I think it's just so interesting. I do think a function of white supremacy is, like, keeping things as surface as possible so that--because the more surface you can be, like, to your point, the less specific and targeted you can be in your solutioning, and if you're not targeting your solutioning, then you're not really gonna be able to affect true change. 'Cause, you know, and the last thing about this in terms of, like, just keeping things general and grouping people all together is, like--I know that in Europe there's a term that's called... it's black--it's like people of color to the max, right? So it's called "BAM," black, Asian, and Middle-Eastern. Like, what is that? Michelle, like, that's--that is nuts. You can't--huh? Like, when someone told me that--like, I just learned about this maybe, I don't know, like, a couple months ago. Like, a colleague told me, and I said, "How is that possible?" Like, those are thousands of identities and experiences and cultures and languages and histories. Like, how are you just going to just lump--so you're just gonna take all the non-white people and put 'em in one big cluster? Huh? Considering the history of, like, colonialism and, like--oh, my gosh. Like, that's nuts. You can't do that. And so, anyway... okay, okay, so from this conversation, what I'm hearing, I don't think that we always give, like, members of the majority enough credit in their ability to have an honest conversation when it's framed effectively, right? I think a lot of times it's kind of like, "Well, we don't want to bring that up because then that makes people uncomfortable," or "We don't want to bring that up because then they shut off," and it's like... eh. I mean, yes, people are fragile, but, like, come on. We've got to be able to have some type of--some level of authentic conversation around something. So that's--Michelle: Yeah. I wouldn't go as far as giving them credit. [both laughing] You know? I think there is a reason why--you know, why people are hesitant to have that conversation. I think it's because of the backlash. It's because of the fragility and it's because of [?] and also frankly the repercussions that people face. So I think while we sort of finesse the way that we deliver certain messages without losing the criticality but also having compassion and being accessible, what we also need to be doing is building the resiliency on the part of the dominant or the privileged group so that we can receive that information and check their fragility or check their defensiveness, and I think that education needs to be more prioritized than the other stuff.Zach: I agree, and thank you. Thank you for pushing back. [laughing] I do think there's a low level of fluency and stamina, right, when it comes to these conversations, and it's interesting because I just read an article, and it was published on Salon, and it was called "Diversity is for white people: the big lie behind a well-intended word." Have you read that yet?Michelle: I have not.Zach: Yo, I'ma send this to you. But it's just interesting because it's really this conversation in a really tactful rant form just around, like, how D&I is often phrased today, and it's, like, phrased with, like, white comfort in mind as opposed to the perspective and experiences of the marginalized in mind, and so I just find that very interesting. Okay, so look, you're the first East Asian-American person that we've had on the show, and so first of all, you know what I'm saying, shout-out to you. [air horns sfx] You know, shout-out to you for that and just being here, you know? [coin sfx] Michelle: Thank you for having me. I'm honored.Zach: Nah, I'm honored. I mean, I'm excited. I think there's this--like, despite civil rights history and all of the work especially done, like, within California, L.A., Oakland, in the '60s, and of course, like, during the era of the Black Panthers, there's this stereotype that Asian-Americans don't really care about social justice. Like, have you heard this before, and, like, why do you think that that is?Michelle: Yeah. Yes, I have heard that before, and I continue to hear it quite often. I think something that I hear when I meet people for the first time and I talk about what I do and we get to know each other a bit better, a weird sort of form of compliment or they think it's a compliment that they pay me is this fact that, you know, I'm one of the unique ones, right? Like, "Oh, wow. I've never met another Asian person who is like you," or "I'm so glad you're doing this work, because we need more Asian people doing this," and I have mixed emotions about that, because while I appreciate the acknowledgement of the work, I think that there's also this continuing erasure of the historical work that different Asian-American activists have done, whether that's the labor movement that was led by Filipino activists or folks marching [?] or even current activists working as prison abolistionists who are Asian-American racial justice organizer or disability justice organizers like [?], queer trans [?] activists. I think there's a lot of folks who are doing really radical work who continually get erased, so it leaves sort of a bitter taste in my mouth when I hear that because I think that with that simple sentiment we're erasing so much of history and current work that's being done. I also think that some of that comment is valid in that, you know, I do see a lot more work that can be done on the part of Asian-Americans specifically. You know, East Asians in tech is sort of the reputation that I hear about where people can be more active in doing D&I work or social justice work, and I think there's a real sort of lack of awareness or even the sense of solidarity amongst Asian-Americans in what their place is, like, what our place is in this conversation around social justice activism. So I think it's a complex topic. I do think that we can do more. I think all groups can do more, and I think there's a serious lack of education around Asian-American history and sort of--even the current facts around, you know, the struggles that Asian-Americans are going through, that if more Asians knew about that and if more Asian folks found commonality between our oppression and other marginalized communities' depression that we may be able to build a coalition to do more amazing work.Zach: One, thank you for--that's a really thoughtful answer. All of your answers have been very thoughtful. It's almost like you're very... awake. [haha sfx] What's really interesting, to your point around just, like, history, is as much as the Black Panthers--I really think that the way that we think about--and when I say we, I mean just, like, Americans, right? Like, the way that Americans categorize and think about the Black Panthers has to be, like, some of the most effective example of American government propaganda, right? Like, we think of Black Panthers as the equivalent of the KKK, like, the black equivalent, like they're these terrorists and that it's just full of these angry black people, and we don't think about the fact that Richard Aoki was--he was a founding member of the Black Panthers, right? Asian-American. And he's not, like, this ancient figure. Like, he passed away in 2009, but we don't really talk about that, and I'm really curious as to--'cause, like, the Black Panther Party, and, like--not the new Black Panther Party, but the initial, original Black Panther Party was not, like, hundreds of years ago, and so it's just so interesting how we are uneducated, right? We're uneducated just on civil rights history, and we're certainly--I don't remember in high school or in college hearing anything about Asian-American participation or engagement in the civil rights movement. That was not anything that I remember being taught, nor do I remember that being something that was, like, readily available for me to learn, you know?Michelle: Right. And I think that lack of education is within the Asian-American community itself, right? I think I feel like sometimes I know more about, you know, black history than my own sort of Asian-American history here in the U.S., and I'm an immigrant, so I think I grew up with a different set of history lessons. So there's a lot of catching up for me to do as well, and I think that the--I mean, even in the school system, I'm sure you've been talking to your guests around the lack of real education around what really happened in history too, right? Not just for Asian-Americans, but for, you know, black Americans and, you know, Latinx Americans. I think there's a lot of, you know, untrue history that's being taught to our youth, which is problem #1, and I also think there's a lot of internalized racism and oppression that exists in the Asian-American community, and there's a lot of complex topics that I don't know if we have time to get into, but things like the--Zach: Well, pick one. Let's go. I have time.Michelle: You know, the myth of Asians being closer to white people and the sort of model minority myth, and that's a very prevalent stereotype, and I think there's a lot of interrogating that we need to do when we talk about those things around, "Well, who were the initial group of Asian-Americans that were allowed to come to the country? What were the ramifications of that? What are some of the current statistics that we can talk about, even in the workplace, around Asian-Americans being the least likely group to advance to senior leadership positions even though they are overrepresented in industries like tech and, you know, [?] in an analyst position?" "How does that impact the continuing stereotypes and narratives around Asian-Americans?" Being good at math, and, you know, I think there's a lot of complex, intertwined stories that we tell about our people, Asian-Americans, and also we're combining an entire continent when talking about Asian-Americans as this monolith of a people when if we were to dis-aggregate that data, there's actually a ton of lessons to be learned around who's actually marginalized within the Asian-American community, right? I recently learned that 1 in 7--I think that's the stat--1 in 7 Asian-Americans are undocumented, and they're the fastest-growing population that's undocumented in the United States currently, but we don't hear about that, right? We don't hear about that narrative, and I think the way that white supremacy works is this sort of untrue and erasing of different stories that make the people of color the collective question and also not able to work alongside each other, and I think that's the--the most difficult thing that I see in the sort of solidarity that we need to be able to move the needle on this work is that there's so much of a lack of education on everyone's part, including myself, that we need to do a lot of work to be able to, you know, truly practice that solidarity with each other.Zach: Man. You know, and, like, Michelle, you've been just casually dropping just bombs, like, this whole conversation, right? So I just gotta give you at least one. [Flex bomb sfx] 'Cause it's been ridiculous. But one thing you said--and it brought something back to my memory. So I'm not gonna say the consulting firm. If y'all want to look on my LinkedIn, y'all can make a guess as to where this was. It's not the one that I'm at right now, but I'll never forget, Michelle, I was at a team dinner--this was some years ago--and we were talking about... so, you know, I'm at the table, and then there's senior leaders, and then there's, like, super senior leaders, and there's me, and I was, like, a junior-level person at this point in time, right? This was, like, five or six years ago. And so I'm a pretty junior person, and there's somebody in there talking about this one particular employee, and they said, "Oh, Insert Name Here is the perfect little Asian. He just does exactly what I tell him to do. He does his work and then he goes home." And I remember I was just eating my dinner--I literally stopped, I looked at the person who said it and was like, "Oh, my God. I can't believe you just said that." And she looked at me, and then you could tell that she, like, quickly averted her eyes and was kind of, like, "Oop--" You know, like, she got caught, but just that idea of this subservient just worker bee that just does whatever I tell them to do... that just stuck with me forever. I was like, "Oh, my gosh." Like, that's not--I'm still flabbergasted by that, as you can tell, and I told my coach. I said, "Hey, this is not okay," right? I said, "This is what happened." And they were like, "Oh, well, you shouldn't have heard that." I was like, "No, no, no. It's not about me shouldn't have hearing it. Like, they shouldn't have said that, but beyond them saying it, they shouldn't believe that." So yeah, I just wanted to share that. Like, I'll never forget me hearing that. And, like, they were talking about the person like they were a--you know, like a resource, and, you know, they call talent that in consulting, resources, but in a genuine, like, piece of property [way], right? And it makes you just question, like, "Well, damn, okay. You felt comfortable enough to say this at a team dinner." And it was a white woman, by the way. But, like, you felt comfortable enough saying this in, like, a mixed group at a team dinner. Like, God forbid, what are you saying about me, what are you saying about other people, what are you saying about this person in, like, more private settings, you know what I mean?Michelle: Right. Well, the scary thing though is that sometimes that kind of trope or narrative is almost seen as a compliment, as if we should be celebrating that. "Well, you know, why is it so bad for us to say Asians are good workers or Asians are good at following orders?" And what have you. I think sometimes that trope gets weaponized to divide the people of color community even further, which is--you know, I think we saw that divide also in the recent affirmative action case, right, where Asian-Americans--there were arguments on both sides around how Asians are being discriminated against for getting good grades and all of that kind of unfortunate, annoying [?], but that's a conversation for another time.Zach: No, you're absolutely right. And to be specific for our listeners who may not be abreast, recently that was the affirmative action case that went before Harvard, correct?Michelle: Correct.Zach: Yeah, and so it was interesting--so, like my perspective, as I was kind of, like, reading and understanding it was, like, some people were saying--so I'm on this app called Fishbowl... this is not an ad, but Fishbowl is, like, this anonymous posting app for consultants and other, like, different industry professionals, and people on there were talking about the case, and so basically the commentary was, "Yeah, you're excluding us and you're letting in these black and brown people who aren't smart enough to get in, but you're trying to fill in these racial quotas." And I was like, "Wow." I don't think that that's the point, and I think the data showed that the people who are the most advantaged by this current system of applications and acceptances were legacy students, right? It was people that--but again, like, to your point, then you'd see people arguing, then you'd see black and brown people arguing with Asian-Americans about, you know, "Well, we deserve to be here--" Again, I think that's--white supremacy is winning again when we start having those types of... when it starts devolving in that way, you know what I mean?Michelle: Right, exactly. And I think it also comes from the fact that a lot of people don't understand the point of affirmative action and why it got started in the first place. It's almost like people think that we're just trying to fill quotas or, you know, have diversity for the sake of diversity, but I think this is where the concept of D&I falls short 'cause we're not actually ever talking about justice and correcting past mistakes or historical oppression. So I think there's a lot of conversations that we need to have that we're not having right now around this concept of justice and sort of historical wrong-doings being corrected with some type of mechanism, and I think similar conversations, you know, are being had in tech and other industries where they're focused on quote-unquote "diversity recruiting" where folks are talking about that concept of, you know, lowering the bar for the sake of diversity and, like, all of that stuff I feel like are interconnected and they're just happening in different spheres, and I think for me it's always coming back to the lack of basic communication around history and social justice concepts and people not understanding how all of these struggles are connected. I think there's just a lot of room for improvement in how we're talking about these issues.Zach: You know, we gotta have you back to talk about the connection--like, to really talk about justice in diversity, equity and inclusion work, because, like, I have all these questions, but I want to respect your time. [both laugh] So let's do this. First of all, let's make sure we have you back. We definitely consider you a friend of the pod.Michelle: Thank you.Zach: Yeah, no, straight up. So thank you for being here with us today. Now, look, y'all--now, I don't know what else y'all want from me. I'm talking to the audience now. You know, look, we come at y'all, we bring y'all some amazing guests, you know, we're having these really dope conversations. I mean, [what more do you want from me? sfx] what more do you want? Like, I'm not even trying to martyr myself. I'm just saying, like, "What do you want?" And when I say me, I mean Living Corporate. Like, you see this guest. Michelle Kim is a beast. Like, thank you so much. This has been a great conversation. Now, look, before we get out of here though, Michelle, I have just a couple more questions. First of all, where can people learn more about Awaken?Michelle: You can learn more about Awaken at our website, www.visionawaken.com. You can also follow on Twitter @AwakenCo and our blog. Please check out our blog on Medium, www.medium.com/Awaken-blog. I'm all on Twitter, I'm on LinkedIn. You can follow me. I also have an Instagram. So all of the social media platforms there's gonna be me or Awaken, so please follow us and subscribe to our newsletter.Zach: All right, y'all. Now, look, she said all the stuff. Mm-mm, hold on, 'cause you're probably driving or you're doing something, you know? You're in your car or maybe you're typing something up on your phone, but what I really need y'all to do is I need you to stop... [record scratch sfx] and check out the links in the show notes, okay? Make sure y'all hit up all those things. I want y'all clicking on them links like [blatblatblatblat sfx]. You know, check them out, okay? We'll make sure we have everything right there for you. Now, Michelle, any shout-outs or parting words before you get out of here?Michelle: Well, I think we're living in a really interesting time right now. There's a lot going on in so many different communities and our society, so my shout-out is to everyone who is doing their best to survive and to thrive to take care of themselves, to stay vigiliant, to educate themselves, and to be in community with people that care about you. I think that's so important in this climate. One last shout-out I want to give is to this new initiative that I'm a part of called Build Tech We Trust. It's a coalition of different CEOs and tech leaders who have come together to say enough is enough around white supremacy spreading online on social media platforms and other tech platforms. It was founded by Y-Vonne Hutchinson and Karla Monterroso of Code2040, and check out our work. We're doing some really important work to build coalition around this issue of radicalization happening on tech platforms. So Build Tech We Trust, and I can send you the URL so you can link it.Zach: Please do. Y'all, this has been--first of all, Michelle, again, thank you. Great conversation. We look forward to having you back, because we will be having you back. If you would like to come back--it's not a directive, you have agency. Michelle: [laughing] Of course. I'd love to. I'd be honored.Zach: Okay, super cool. Listen, y'all. This has been the Living Corporate podcast. You know, make sure you check us on Twitter @LivingCorp_Pod, Instagram @LivingCorporate, and then--now, the websites. Now, look, y'all hear me rattle off all these websites every time - livingcorporate.co, livingcorporate.org, livingcorporate.tv, livingcorporate.net, right? Livingcorporate.us I think we even have. We have every livingcorporate, Michelle, except livingcorporate.com, but we do have living-corporate--please say the dash--dot com. Now, if you have any questions or any feedback for the show, just hit us up. We're at livingcorporatepodcast@gmail.com. Hit us up on DM. All of our DMs are wide open for your convenience. That's right. We take on the emotional labor of keeping our DMs open so that you can reach out to us, okay? So you hit us up and you let us know if you need anything. If there's anything else, just Google us, right? Type in Living Corporate on your browser. We're gonna pop up. We're on all the different streaming mediums. Make sure to tell your momma about Living Corporate, your cousin, or your weird uncle, or your racist uncle at Thanksgiving. So you make sure you--come on, shoot the link over. We got all kinds of stuff on there, so we out here, okay? What else? I think that's it. Shout-out to Aaron [thank you], shout-out to all the listeners, and God bless y'all. Or, you know what I'm saying, bless y'all, 'cause I'm not trying to offend anybody, but bless y'all, okay? And what else? I think that's it. This has been Zach. You've been listening to Michelle Kim, founder, educator, activist, public speaker, and of course CEO of Awaken. Catch y'all next time. Peace.

Michelle Kim, staff writer for Them., joins the show. We discuss the reemergence of Frank Ocean and the purpose of his PrEP+ parties in New York, getting first-hand accounts from Reed and Michelle. Later, we ask ourselves if we really need a Frank Ocean rap album right now. Eric returns with #DiepThoughts and it gets extreme. We also do Good/Bad on Lord Apex, BEAM, MC Kevin O Chris, and Tinashe. The Spice Rack is back to give spicy takes ranking Frank's discography. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/therapwritersshow/support

Michelle Kim (Them., FADER, Pitchfork and others) joins us over the phone to talk about her experience at Frank Ocean's PreP Queer Club night, LGBTQ artists balancing their identities and the need for alternative voices in media. Donate to Planned Parenthood: https://www.weareplannedparenthood.org/onlineactions/2U7UN1iNhESWUfDs4gDPNg2 Songs featured (in order): Frank Ocean - DHL King Princess - Cheap Queen

Welcome to the Process Hacker News, your weekly roundup of useful news and updates from Process Hackers who have been guests on Hack the Process with M. David Green. This week we’ve got personal branding, work disagreements, event planning, and more. For all the links, check out the show notes: https://www.hacktheprocess.com/personal-branding-work-disagreements-event-planning-and-more-in-process-hacker-news/ Enjoy! Events On October 9, join Nicaila Matthews-Okome at Side Hustle Pro Live in Washington, DC with her special guest Maya Elious, a personal branding pro who will break down the details of how she bootstrapped her own business. Get your laugh on at Isn’t She Funny, with Sarah Cooper among the dude-free line-up on September 30 in Brooklyn, New York. Media What separates great companies from the rest? Learn about identifying your customers and positioning your brand from April Dunford on the Escape Velocity Podcast. The Anthony Eisenman Show features Bill Wooditch talking about learning from mistakes and making down payments on your success. Writing Going beyond the usual check-the-box diversity workshops, Michelle Kim tells Nurole how her organization, Awaken, takes a different approach and promotes deeper conversations around diversity and inclusion. Inspired by National Women’s Equality Day, Kimberly Wiefling shares insights and infographics about on how we can promote gender equality at work. In response to Forbes mentioning only one woman innovator among ninety-nine men, Sarah Robb O’Hagan has released a list of ninety nine innovative women, including lean social impact champion Ann Mei Chang, Bozoma Saint John who was mentioned by Sasha Ariel Alston, and Susan Cain, who was recommended by Ron Carucci. Problems at work sometimes stem from disputes. The newest Hack the Process guest, Steve Farber recommends a few strategies to keep disagreements from ruining work relationships in his recent Inc article. Brian Solis is featured along with Tim Ferriss, Marie Kondo, and Esther Perel in this article on how to be the best version of you. Recommended Resources Some folks struggle as businesspeople while yearning to take on a role they are more passionate about. Anita Wing Lee, mentioned by Tara Byrne, was one of them. Read how she chose to be an artist as opposed to being an entrepreneur in her newest blog entry. The Event Planner Expo will happen in New York City from October 1 to 3, showcasing some of the top speakers in the events industry, including Gary Vaynerchuk, whose work has inspired Malek Banoun, Tara Hunt, and Zack Friedman. Thanks for checking out this Process Hacker News update from Hack the Process. If you liked what you saw, please leave a comment to let us know what processes you’re hacking.

Michelle opens up about her experience growing up as the “token Asian American” in most circles. Then, attending the University of California-Irvine, where the majority culture looked like her--causing her to question her value and identity. Michelle shares how she uses life experiences, such as the recent birth of her son, to incorporate and share about Korean culture. I especially appreciate her willingness to unpack the challenges she faced with her parents for marrying her husband, who is Black and Jewish. I can’t wait for you to listen and share your feedback!Learn more about MichelleInstagram: @michellekimmccoyPhotography: Michelle Kim PhotographyActing: IMDbStay connected with me onInstagram: @vivmabuni + @somedayisnowpodcastTwitter: @vivmabuniwww.vivianmabuni.comCreditsSound Engineer: Aaron Kretzman of Phos StudiosMusic: Joseph Patrick of Passion Net ProductionsExecutive Producer: Chantel RunnelsDesign: Jocelyn Chung

Contemporary Coworking, Prolific Podcasting, Subscriber Segmentation, and More in Process Hacker News Welcome to the Process Hacker News, your weekly roundup of useful news and updates from Process Hackers who have been guests on Hack the Process with M. David Green. This week we’ve got contemporary coworking, prolific podcasting, subscriber segmentation, and more. For all the links, check out the show notes at https://www.hacktheprocess.com/contemporary-coworking-prolific-podcasting-subscriber-segmentation-and-more-in-process-hacker-news/. Enjoy! Events Catch Jenny Feinberg in the Castro Art Walk in San Francisco, as she showcases her vibrant, expressive paintings on August 1. Seerfest 2019 is a one-day digital marketing event on October 3 in Philadelphia, where April Dunford will be a speaker. All sales from the tickets will go to Hopeworks Camden, an organization set up to help the youth of Camden, New Jersey achieve technology skills and job opportunities. Media In a world where working remotely at home is starting to be more common, why is coworking still valuable? You’ll hear about it in an interview with Alex Hillman on the Building Remote Teams Podcast. On the Inspired Money Podcast, you can find out more about Engel Jones and how he launched his record-setting podcast with the goal of having thousands of meaningful conversations with folks. Bill Wooditch pays a visit to the Breakfast Leadership Podcast to discuss his book, Fail More, and how failures can be used as foundations. In an interview with Bloomberg, Safi Bahcall discusses why he thinks Richard Branson and Elon Musk have outdone NASA. Writing Why do you need to segment your subscriber list and what’s the best way to do it? Brennan Dunn has come up with a beginner’s guide to help you out. When your boss betrays you it can change our career outlook, and most times, it’s for the worse. In a new HBR article, Ron Carucci offers ways to avoid the risk of becoming someone you don’t want to be. Some folks still prefer physical books over ebooks, and Curtis McHale is one of them. He also names a few book titles important enough to buy in hard copy. Recommended Resources Sean Ellis, who was referenced by Vinay Patankar and Maneesh Sethi, is working with Itamar Gilad to present the Breakout Growth Workshop in Barcelona on October 1. The event hopes to accelerate value delivery and achieve breakout growth for both new startups and established companies. On October 3, TEDxSan Francisco will be featuring a wide range of speakers, including Lauren Kunze, who was mentioned by Loic Le Meur, and Kimberly Bryant, who inspired Michelle Kim. Here is a list of interesting UX folks you can follow on Twitter, and one of them is Laura Klein, who was recommended by Rich Mironov in his Hack the Process interview. Thanks for checking out this Process Hacker News update from Hack the Process. If you liked what you saw, please leave a comment to let us know what processes you’re hacking.

Episode #258.  This week host Justin Trawick talks in a very echoey room with Kennedy Center Washington National Opera violinist Michelle Kim.  Discussion includes Justin's car narrowly getting towed and Michelle saving it, having tear marks on your violin, and celebrating your birthday on New Years Day.  Go to TheCircusLife.com for past episodes and go to JustinTrawick.com for upcoming shows and see you on July 27th at the 930 Club! 

Welcome to the Process Hacker News, your weekly roundup of useful news and updates from Process Hackers who have been guests on Hack the Process with M. David Green. This week we’ve got glass ceilings, organizational phases, superfans, and more. For all the links, check out the show notes at https://www.hacktheprocess.com/glass-ceilings-organizational-phases-superfans-and-more-in-process-hacker-news/. Enjoy! Events You can catch Ann Mei Chang as a keynote speaker at OpEx DC 2019 Humentum Annual Conference, a gathering focused on growing trust for greater impact, which will happen from July 10 to 12 in Washington, DC. The Woman Evolve Conference 2019 is all about encouraging ladies to connect, grow, and shatter glass ceilings. Nicaila Matthews-Okome will deliver a workshop at the event, which will take place in Denver, Colorado from July 12 to 13 Register for The Growth Design Series, happening from July 29 to August 1, to increase the membership of the growth designers community and help deliver more value to clients. The event is brought to you by Cascade SF, founded by Andi Galpern. Product managers, join Rich Mironov for a presentation on “What Do Product Leaders Do?” in Palo Alto on August 7 to learn about how to advance your careers and product leadership skills. Media The Effective Founder features Brennan Dunn, who shares about his startup journey from building Double Your Freelancing to RightMessage. Brian Solis digs into the topic of digital anthropology, how technology has affected everyone’s minds and health, and how he came up with the idea for his book, Lifescale, in a new interview on Mind, Body Spirit with Dr. Kayte. Aaron Walker is a life and business coach whom Engel Jones has turned to for guidance. Listen to Aaron’s engaging twelve-minute conversation with Engel on the Twelve-Minute Convos Podcast. Writing On Best Practices in Human Resources, Joy Wiggins who was recently a guest on Hack the Process with her co-author, Kami Anderson, lists five ways women can go from sabotage to support and help each other instead of showing hostility. Kimberly Wiefling is a lady badass, and you can read about her inspirations and her passionate, scrappy approach to life on Lady Badassery. Loonshots author, Safi Bahcall is a physicist and biotech entrepreneur, and on the Outside Voices Podcast, he dives into innovation and the basic phases of an organization. Recommended Resources Give It Up by Netroots Nation is gathering folks on July 12 in Philadelphia to help find ways to develop a donor base and directly give to the community. Leslie Mac, whom Michelle Kim looks up to, is going to take part as a speaker. Product folks, get your tickets for Mind the Product San Francisco, which will run from July 15 to 16 and will highlight some of the industry’s top movers and shakers. Product discovery coach Teresa Torres, mentioned by Rich Mironov is featured as a speaker. Make sure you preorder your copy of Superfans, a book by Pat Flynn about building your tribe and growing your business, which will hit bookstores on August 13! Omar Zenhom, Paula Jenkins, and Nicaila Matthews-Okome are some of Pat’s own superfans. Thanks for checking out this Process Hacker News update from Hack the Process. If you liked what you saw, please leave a comment to let us know what processes you’re hacking.

Welcome to the Process Hacker News, your weekly roundup of useful news and updates from Process Hackers who have been guests on Hack the Process with M. David Green. This week we’ve got chaos, segmentation, impossible goals, and more. For all the links, check out the show notes at https://www.hacktheprocess.com/chaos-segmentation-impossible-goals-and-more-in-process-hacker-news/. Enjoy! Events You can catch Brian Solis, our latest guest on Hack the Process, in person at the free event Open Influence Summit 2019 in Los Angeles on May 15, and at SVB + Create33 Author Series in Seattle on May 16. The first Forbes Opportunity Zones Summit: Investing for Impact is on May 21 in Newark, New Jersey. Catch Anne Driscoll discussing how her coworking startup, Launchpad, is helping entrepreneurs in locations that need it most. Engineering leaders such as Ron Lichty will be presenting at the 2019 San Francisco CTO Summit on May 21 to share their wisdom about better processes and more effective management. Media Alex Cespedes has rebranded his podcast “Or So I Thought.” Listen to the inaugural episode, inspired by Andy Warhol and Bill Murray, as Alex shares his musings on indirectly accomplishing goals. Are you stumped by Facebook Ads and how they work? Learn a few basics from the author of Facebook Ads Manual and founder of Super Spicy Media, Mojca Zove, as she reveals why Facebook Ads can be a good investment, and how they work compared to other social media platforms, on the In the Trenches Podcast with Tom Morkes. Thuy Pham is the founder of Freshly Baked Brand, through which she helps clients with their brand strategies. Hear how she crafts memorable brands in her recent conversation with Engel Jones on the Twelve-Minute Convos Podcast. Marketers can learn the three segmentation essentials they need to know from this video taught by Brennan Dunn. Writing The winners of the 2019 Independent Press Awards have been announced, including Shackled, the biography book written by Adam Siddiq. Congratulations, Adam! Loonshots, a term coined by Safi Bahcall are big ideas or goals that seems impossible. In a Q&A with AEI, Safi talks about the wisdom of nurturing loonshots and how it’s been proven out over and over in history. Recommended Resources Everyday Chaos is a book by David Weinberger coming out on May 14, about how we’re living with technology in today’s complex world. Tara Hunt recommended David during her Hack the Process interview. Let your girls 7-12 explore webmaking at Black Girls Code, Seattle’s Build a Webpage in a Day in Tacoma, Washington on June 15. Kimberly Bryant, founder of Black Girls Code, was a source of inspiration for Michelle Kim. The CMO Podcast was recently launched by Jim Stengel, who was mentioned by Steve Goldbach, and the first episode tackles the mindset of a Chief Marketing Officer. Award-winning author and psychologist Dr. Shefali Tsabary, recommended by Heather Chauvin, breaks down the meaning of great parenting in this fireside chat with Mindvalley’s Vishen Lakhiani, who was suggested by another Hack the Process guest, Michelle Dale. Thanks for checking out this Process Hacker News update from Hack the Process. If you liked what you saw, please leave a comment to let us know what processes you’re hacking.

Today's coffee date is Michelle Kim McCoy - pastor's wife, actor, and photographer. She is a multi-passionate and creative woman who balances many things and is stewarding them well. If you can relate to having multiple passions and creative outlets, you're going to want to listen. Michelle shares about having a ministry mindset, setting healthy boundaries, the cost of obedience, and even tips on a healthy marriage. Grab a cup of coffee and join us! Michelle's IG: https://www.instagram.com/michellekimmccoy/ Coffee & Honeycomb IG: https://www.instagram.com/coffeeandhoneycomb/

Red Flags, Early Mornings, Dubious Devices, and More Welcome to the Process Hacker News, your weekly roundup of useful news and updates from Process Hackers who have been guests on Hack the Process with M. David Green. This week we’ve got red flags, early mornings, dubious devices, and more. For all the links, check out the show notes at http://www.hacktheprocess.com/red-flags-early-mornings-dubious-devices-and-more-in-process-hacker-news/. Enjoy! Events Heather Chauvin is bringing a One-Day Women’s Leadership Mastermind to Ontario, Canada on February 22 to help women step up, be empowered, and learn to lead. Media On the Badasses in Tech Podcast, Sasha Ariel Alston shows up to talk about how she began in tech. Her book, Sasha Savvy Loves to Code, was also called out by Ladies Love STEM as one of five inspirational children’s books. You can automate your schedule and manage your appointments with Acuity Scheduling, as explained by the founder, Gavin Zuchlinski on The Nicole Holland Show. Every one of us has experienced fear of failure at one point in life. Kate Swoboda wants to help you have more courage and get unstuck from this fear in her newest podcast episode. Most entrepreneurs say that getting up early is the key to productivity, but is it really? You can find out what Omar Zenhom thinks about it on The $100MBA Show. In Curtis McHale’s most recent vlog, he asks you to check and see if your priorities match your actions. Listen and discover if you’re spending enough time on the things you set out to do. Writing Meet Awaken’s 2018 Inclusion Award Winners, announced this week by Awaken CEO and co-founder Michelle Kim. Congratulations! Our privacy may be at risk with smart home devices, but we can’t seem to let go of the convenience of having them. Tara Hunt shares her opinion on why it’s important not to trust these smart devices blindly. RightMessage, co-founded by Brennan Dunn is one of the recommendations on Pat Flynn’s list of tools for email marketing. As a freelancer, choosing clients can be tricky. Avoid problems by taking note of these red flag phrases bad clients might use spelled out by Ryan Waggoner. Recommended Resources Rick Hanson and Daniel Rechtschaffen, two resources mentioned by Andrew Nance, are both joining Educating Mindful Minds from April 19 to 21 in New York, where mindfulness will be discussed in the management of stress, anxiety, and mental health issues. Social media experts and leaders will be gathering in San Diego at Social Media Marketing World from March 20 to 22. Boss Mom Dana Malstaff, recommended by Maria Dismondy, will take part to discuss how to create a sustainable community using Facebook groups. The Dynamic Lifestyle Podcast features Jay Samit, whom Pam Wasley mentioned. On the show, Jay chats with the hosts about being innovative and avoiding job disruption. Thanks for checking out this Process Hacker News update from Hack the Process. If you liked what you saw, please leave a comment to let us know what processes you’re hacking.

Meditating Moms, Real Resolutions, Viral Video, and More Welcome to the Process Hacker News, your weekly roundup of useful news and updates from Process Hackers who have been guests on Hack the Process with M. David Green. This week we’ve got meditating moms, real resolutions, viral video, and more. For all the links, check out the show notes at http://www.hacktheprocess.com/meditating-moms-real-resolutions-viral-video-and-more-in-process-hacker-news/. Enjoy! Media What exactly is a side hustle? Nicaila Matthews-Okome is featured on The Way We Work, where she tells you what the side hustle revolution is all about. Paula Jenkins also had a side hustle: growing a business while working a nine to five job. Listen to her experiences and reflections in her latest solo episode on Jumpstart Your Joy. Heather Chauvin practices meditation, and it has done wonders for her as a mother and entrepreneur, which is why in her new Mom is in Control episode, she shares the power of meditation, how to make time, and how to do it effectively. If you haven’t heard of emotional intelligence and how it can work for you, tune in to Tiffani Bova’s latest episode of What’s Next Podcast, in which she discusses leadership, marketing, and EQ with Author Justin Bariso. Writing New Year’s resolutions don’t work! In her latest blog post, Maria Dismondy encourages you to settle for solid goals instead. Want to get yourself noticed and get booked for various events as a speaker. Read some of Frank Strona’s tips. What’s Influencer Marketing and how do you take advantage of it? Alistair Clay defines it for you. LeadFuze, co-founded by Justin McGill, posted a blog entry comparing popular sales data platforms LinkedIn Sales Navigator and LeadFuze. Recommended Resources Ken Block is a co-founder of DC Shoes and a pro rally driver who recently went on The Tim Ferriss Show to talk about the art of marketing with his viral Gymkhana videos. Tim is a big influencer who made a strong impression on some Hack the Process guests including Carter Thomas, Michelle Kim, Omar Zenhom, Alex Cespedes, Vinay Patankar, and Malek Banoun. In June, New York Times bestselling author Elizabeth Gilbert is releasing a new novel, City of Girls, and she’ll also be attending the Vacation Rental Women’s Summit in New Orleans from February 19 to 20 to address issues that women face in the vacation rental industry. Elizabeth’s books were a source of inspiration for Tara Byrne and Jenny Feinberg. Are you interested in gene editing? Technology? Physics? Nuclear fusion? If yes, then you might be one of the one hundred twenty people that YC 120 is looking for. Apply to join the community and you’ll get to join a weekend conference in Colorado from April 26 to 28 with free lodging, food, and flights from anywhere in the world. Both Ankit Shah and Ricky Yean mentioned Paul Graham, who co-founded the seed accelerator, Y Combinator.

Imposter Syndrome, The Tao of Trauma, Political Prisoners, and More Welcome to the Process Hacker News, your weekly roundup of useful news and updates from Process Hackers who have been guests on Hack the Process with M. David Green. This week we’ve got imposter syndrome, the tao of trauma, political prisoners, and more. For all the links, check out the show notes at http://www.hacktheprocess.com/2019-01-08-process-hacker-news-imposter-syndrome-the-tao-of-trauma-political-prisoners-and-more/. Enjoy! Events The San Francisco Engineering Leaders Community Summit 2019 will have Ron Lichty on the speaker roster this coming January 24. Attendees can expect to hear about leadership, engineering, careers, and agile. You can also catch Ron’s webinar, Organizing and Scaling Agile Teams on January 16. Also on January 24, Ron Carucci will join the Organization Design Forum to discuss honesty as a design challenge. Courses Nicaila Matthews-Okome is now on Skillshare with a course about how to start your own podcast. Nicaila’s own podcast, Side Hustle Pro, was also featured as one of the top business podcasts of 2018 by Podcasts In Color. Media The second episode of Nicole Holland‘s relaunched and renamed podcast, The Nicole Holland Show, features Jordan Harbinger as a guest host interviewing Nicole about stepping out, being seen, and overcoming Imposter Syndrome. The Groundless Ground Podcast hosted by Lisa Dale Miller kicks off its second season by focusing on the tao of trauma and trauma-informed acupuncture with Alaine Duncan, Doctor of Chinese Medicine. The Do A Day Podcast recently featured Jon de Waal talking about his career and how he fell to rise again. Check out this short video by Jina Anne for highlights of Clarity Conference 2018 on design systems. Writing Shackled, a book by Adam Siddiq about his grandfather’s political imprisonment, won two awards recently: second prize in the biography category of the 2018 Royal Dragonfly Book Awards and grand prize for the 2018 Reader’s Choice Awards from TCK Publishing, which was founded by another Hack the Process guest, Tom Corson-Knowles. In November and December of last year, Rich Mironov conducted a survey to learn what product leaders worry about. Read his latest blog entry to discover the results. Michelle Kim made it onto Leah Nichols’s second annual 100 Azns list, celebrating noteworthy Asian Americans for 2018. Recommended Resources The Implications Wheel Facilitator Training Workshop lets you explore the long-term consequences of ideas, the power of paradigms, and innovation. The event runs from February 25 to March 1 in Fountain Hills, Arizona led by Joel Barker, a resource mentioned by Kimberly Wiefling. Spend a few days of contemplation and reconnection with Jack Kornfield in Massachusetts from January 13 to 18 at The Wise and Loving Heart: Meditation for Freedom, Courage, and Compassion. Jack is a Buddhist author who shaped Loic Le Meur’s meditation practice. Thanks for checking out this Process Hacker News update from Hack the Process. If you liked what you saw, please leave a comment to let us know what processes you’re hacking.

Flawed Narratives, Office Humor, Novel Writing, and More Welcome to the Process Hacker News, your weekly roundup of useful news and updates from Process Hackers who have been guests on Hack the Process with M. David Green. This week we’ve got flawed narratives, office humor, novel writing, and more. For all the links, check out the show notes at http://www.hacktheprocess.com/2018-12-19-process-hacker-news-flawed-narratives-office-humor-novel-writing-and-more/. Enjoy! Events Aging is one life transition that can be difficult to manage, but you can Develop a Game Plan for the Fourth Quarter of Life with the help of a six-hour workshop being led by Jon de Waal in Shoreline, Washington on January 12. Join Heather Chauvin for her live Mom Is In Control Time and Energy Intensive happening on January 5 and come away with better ways manage your schedule and your energy level. Media Being an office employee can put people into horrifying or hilarious situations. Sarah Cooper is putting together a demo for a new podcast, Don’t Tell HR, and she would love to hear about your stories for her show! Listen to Ron Lichty on Software Engineering Daily to learn the lessons and challenges of engineering management. On the Nonprofit Leadership Podcast, Ann Mei Chang shares her ideas on how to increase social change impact as a nonprofit organization. Lisa Dale Miller has released the final episode for season one of the Groundless Ground Podcast, in which she defines the five aggregates and their deathless nature, the main cause of mental and emotional suffering discussed in the Buddha’s teachings. Have you read James Clear’s Atomic Habits? Curtis McHale gives you an idea of what lessons the book contains. The video of Rich Mironov’s presentation at the Business of Software Conference in October about the organizational challenges of roadmapping for different stakeholders at enterprise software companies is now available. Check it out! Writing What does Diversity of Thought really mean, and is it relevant without demographic diversity? Michelle Kim exposes this flawed narrative and its ramifications in a Medium post. Drip is an electronic customer relationship management tool, and Brennan Dunn has written a blog post to show you how to use it to tailor your marketing and provide intimacy at scale for your customers. Recommended Resources Miami, Florida is the next stop for Gary Vaynerchuk’s Daily Digital Deep Dive on January 16. Gary, who was referenced by Malek Banoun and Tara Hunt, will teach the business strategies he used in his very own VaynerMedia. For National Novel Writing Month, Pat Flynn turned his camera on and recorded himself writing a novel in one month. Paula Jenkins, Nicaila Matthews-Okome, and Omar Zenhom have all recommended Pat and his podcast, Smart Passive Income. You meet and network with other entrepreneurs at events, but how do you follow up after the conference? See some suggestions on HBR in an article by Dorie Clark, who was mentioned by Nicole Holland and Ron Carucci. Thanks for checking out this Process Hacker News update from Hack the Process. If you liked what you saw, please leave a comment to let us know what processes you’re hacking.

Interim Executives, Poetry Agents, Content Curation, and More Welcome to the Process Hacker News, your weekly roundup of useful news and updates from Process Hackers who have been guests on Hack the Process with M. David Green. This week we’ve got interim executives, poetry agents, content curation, and more. For all the links, or to watch the video, check out the show notes at http://www.hacktheprocess.com/2018-12-11-process-hacker-news-interim-executives-poetry-agents-content-curation-and-more/. Enjoy! Media It’s essential that you evaluate yourself regularly to take control of the life that you want, as explained by Byron Morrison in his newest video. In his most recent interview for iHeart Radio, Barth Getto discusses how cooperatives can empower ecommerce entrepreneurs. Writing Congratulations to Avochato and their CEO and co-founder, Alex De Simone, who just announced they have raised $5 Million in Series A funding, which the mobile messaging platform will use to continue to provide great customer service. How do you know when to hire interim executives for your company? Find out from a recent blog post on Cerius Executives, headed by CEO Pam Wasley. Learn more about Kimberly Wiefling‘s career and her work with the group Silicon Valley Alliances in her featured interview on Lama. Discover some interesting reads you may have missed in Ashe Dryden’s recent post discussing her favorite books of 2018. Onboarding new hires well helps you keep them, and Ron Carucci shares his thoughts about how to do this in his latest articles on HBR. Poets, if you’re searching for poetry and literary agents, then look no further. Tom Corson-Knowles has a list for you. Recommended Resources CEOs can shape the external environment, and here are seven organizing principles suggested by Michael D. Watkins, whose book was referenced in Pam Wasley’s episode of Hack the Process. Learn about the EpiField and feel the ranges of energy at The Energetic Experience, led by Donny Epstein, on February 18, 2019 in Denver, Colorado. Adam Siddiq spoke highly of Donny during his interview. You can build your audience by curating content. Nathan Barry, recommended by Justin McGill, experienced this and explains how to do it in a recent blog post. In the newest episode of The Tim Ferriss Show, Tim chats with author and integrative medicine practitioner Dr. Andrew Weil, who discusses plant medicine and more. Vinay Patankar, Alex Cespedes, Malek Banoun, Michelle Kim, and Omar Zenhom have all mentioned being influenced by Tim Ferriss. Thanks for checking out this Process Hacker News update from Hack the Process. If you liked what you saw, please leave a comment to let us know what processes you’re hacking.

Holiday Mentors, Profitable Podcasts, Trauma Therapy, and More Welcome to the Process Hacker News, your weekly roundup of useful news and updates from Process Hackers who have been guests on Hack the Process with M. David Green. This week we’ve got holiday mentors, profitable podcasts, trauma therapy, and more. For all the links, check out the show notes at http://www.hacktheprocess.com/2018-12-04-process-hacker-news-holiday-mentors-profitable-podcasts-trauma-therapy-and-more/. Enjoy! Events Why not eat, drink, be merry, and get mentored by design experts this season? Cascade SF, founded by Andi Galpern, is bringing you Holiday Mentor Night on December 11 in San Francisco. If you missed out on Finish Up Weekend last September, here’s another chance to join! Alex Hillman invites you to get on the list while it’s early and enjoy a weekend of productivity from January 25 to 27 at Indy Hall in Philadelphia. Courses Become a certified coach through Courageous Living Coach Certification, a training program created by Kate Swoboda. Registration for 2019 trainees is open until December 10. Media The National Business Book Awards official podcast, Curating the Business Conversation, recently kicked off their first episode, which features Jennifer Riel discussing integrative thinking as described in her book, Creating Great Choices. Entrepreneur and podcaster Jordan Harbinger joins Tom Morkes on the In the Trenches Podcast to share some of his secrets about starting and growing a profitable podcast. Seth Godin was also a recent guest on Tom’s show. Jessica Spaulding of Harlem Chocolate Factory shares her ups and downs as an entrepreneur on the Side Hustle Pro podcast, hosted by Nicaila Matthews-Okome. Writing Have you heard that Tara Hunt is dropping the word “Social” from the Truly Social brand? Read her newest LinkedIn post to learn why. Christine Henderson just published this interview with Maria Dismondy, in which Maria shares her background, her writing journey, and her approach to social media management. Recommended Resources On The Trauma Therapist with Guy Macpherson, who was recommended by Lisa Dale Miller, Trauma Consultant Margi Bennett speaks about human rights and trauma advocacy. Kimberly Bryant, one of Michelle Kim’s influences, shares her background, the foundation, and the mission of Black Girls Code in an article on Success. The Healing Power of Mindfulness, the third installment of the Coming to Our Senses series by Jon Kabat-Zinn, is now out. Jon is a prominent figure in the mindfulness community who has touched the lives of many practitioners, such as Bill Duane, Rhonda Magee, and Lisa Dale Miller. Thanks for checking out this Process Hacker News update from Hack the Process. If you liked what you saw, please leave a comment to let us know what processes you’re hacking.

Romantic Music, Uncomfortable Conversations, Finding Purpose, and More Welcome to the Process Hacker News, your weekly roundup of useful news and updates from Process Hackers who have been guests on Hack the Process with M. David Green. This week we’ve got romantic music, uncomfortable conversations, finding purpose, and more. It’s been a year since we started publishing Process Hacker News, and I’d love to know what you like about it and what improvements you’d like to see. Please feel free to add a comment or send a note and share your thoughts! For all the links, check out the show notes at: http://www.hacktheprocess.com/2018-11-13-process-hacker-news-romantic-music-uncomfortable-conversations-finding-purpose-and-more/ Enjoy! Launches Check out the soundtrack created by Mike Massy for the new romantic comedy film, Khabsa! Events On November 16, catch Jon de Waal among the speakers of TEDxTacoma in Washington, as they explore bridging the gap between military and civilian families. Curtis McHale joins forces with Jason Resnick for Stop the Cycle, a workshop designed to help freelancers learn how to get clients, which goes live on November 30. Curtis’s upcoming book, The Freelancer’s Guide to Getting Started, is also now available for preorder on Amazon. Media The Dervish and the Mermaid Podcast has been around for five years, but they are now saying farewell. Tune in to Kyeli and Pace Smith’s final episode as they conclude their podcasting journey with what they call their 10 house rules. Writing This past week more than 100 women were elected to congress in the United States of America. In a new Forbes article, Ron Carucci explains why this is great for everyone. Tiffani Bova’s book, Growth IQ, has won another award; this time from the 2018 800-CEO-READ Business Book Awards. Congratulations! More awesome news from Sasha Ariel Alston who is featured on the cover of Role Model Magazine’s fall-winter edition. Way to go, Sasha! Why do you need to make room for uncomfortable conversations in the workplace? Read about Michelle Kim’s fight for diversity and inclusion in a Glass Door interview. Did you know that you can reach out to your customers thru text messages with Avochato, a software startup co-founded by Alex De Simone? Well now it’s possible to automate customer text messaging with Avochato’s new Zapier integration. Quizzes can be part of a great marketing strategy, and Josh Haynam can tell you the ten best quiz topics to use of when trying to create your own quiz. Recommended Resources On the Hack the Entrepreneur Podcast, whose host Jonny Nastor was recommended by Alistair Clay, hear how Tibor Laczay of Zenni Optical co-founded his company with his wife and how they went from their garage to one of the biggest glasses manufacturer in the world. Catch feminist Gloria Steinem, who inspired Jenny Feinberg at Lesley University’s Boston Speaker Series on November 19 and 28. Sam Altman, President of YC Group, talks about choosing projects, creating value, and finding purpose in a new episode of the Y Combinator Podcast. Y Combinator is a startup accelerator firm co-founded by Paul Graham, referenced both by Ankit Shah and Ricky Yean. Thanks for checking out this Process Hacker News update from Hack the Process. If you liked what you saw, please leave a comment to let us know what processes you’re hacking.

Welcome to the Process Hacker News, your weekly roundup of useful news and updates from Process Hackers who have been guests on Hack the Process with M. David Green. This week we’ve got personalized marketing, fear of failure, sharp iron, and more. For all the links or to watch the video, check out the show notes at http://www.hacktheprocess.com/2018-10-16-process-hacker-news-personalized-marketing-fear-of-failure-sharp-iron-and-more/ Enjoy! Events If you’re looking for more information about integrative thinking, Jennifer Riel, co-author of Creating Great Choices, will be speaking at TEDxToronto on October 26. Changemakers: NYC speaker series will feature Steve Goldbach and other executives on October 19 discussing dynamic entrepreneurship and disruptive intrapreneurship. Community Brennan Dunn, co-founder of the RightMessage website personalization service, has just launched the Personalization Marketing Mastermind with RightMessage where folks can share ideas and learn about personalization marketing strategies. Media Fear of failure can hold us back from even trying. Listen as Byron Morrison inspires you to move forward in his latest vlog on The Freedom Mindset Show. In the latest episode of Kate Swoboda’s podcast, Kate announced she’s coming out with a new book: The Gift of Coaching! Tune in to the episode to discover what’s in store and how the book came about. Marisa Murgatroyd, referenced by Nicole Holland, talks about online courses and her career shift on In the Trenches Podcast with Tom Morkes. Writing Culture Amp’s list of 21 diversity and inclusion influencers just came out, and it includes Hack the Process guest Michelle Kim. Congratulations to Sasha Ariel Alston for being chosen as an honoree in Her Campus’s 22 most inspiring college women under 22! Engineering managers, be sure to check out Ron Lichty‘s thoughts about a programmer’s motivation in his recent interview for Plusplus. Recommended Resources Tickets for the upcoming Success Squared event in Australia with Gary Vaynerchuk are sold out, but folks willing to drop by Las Vegas can catch him at the National Achievers Congress Conference on November 26. Hack the Process guests who were influenced by Gary include Malek Banoun and Tara Hunt. Iron Sharpens Iron is a life-transforming men’s mastermind led by Aaron Walker, whose previous mastermind Engel Jones was a part of. Check out a video of Iron Sharpens Iron’s past events to see what goes on and find out if it might be right for you. Thanks for checking out this Process Hacker News update from Hack the Process. If you liked what you saw, please leave a comment to let us know what processes you’re hacking.

Rentable Fashion, Courageous Parenting, Effective Moonlighting, and More Welcome to the Process Hacker News, your weekly roundup of useful news and updates from Process Hackers who have been guests on Hack the Process with M. David Green. This week we’ve got rentable fashion, courageous parenting, effective moonlighting, and more. For all the links, check out the show notes at http://www.hacktheprocess.com/2018-10-02-process-hacker-news-rentable-fashion-courageous-parenting-effective-moonlighting-and-more/ Enjoy! Launches Congratulations to Rent the Runway for opening up a standalone shop in San Francisco! The fashion startup, where Hampton Catlin is VP of Engineering, lets members rent special occasion clothing for a monthly subscription fee. Events Some seats are still available at Integrative Thinking for Leaders on October 5 in Toronto, where Jennifer Riel will teach participants to use differences to create new options. Media Teens can be tough to manage, but you can listen to some tips from Psychologist Dr. Ken Wilgus as he shares his knowledge about effective parenting of teens in the newest episode of the Groundless Ground Podcast by Lisa Dale Miller, As a guest on the Raiseology Podcast, Kate Swoboda discusses the courage habit and how it applies to the challenges of being a parent. On the Building A Business That Lasts Podcast, Gavin Zuchlinski talks about Acuity Scheduling’s history and growth, and how the appropriate work attitude can support learning and decision-making. Curtis McHale compares running a business to running a race, and sheds light on what happens when the going gets tough for a business. In Tiffani Bova’s Let’s Be Clear interview at Dreamforce 2018, she shares the wisdom learned from the thirty companies she talked to for her book, Growth IQ. Writing Got a full-time job? Ryan Waggoner recommends you try moonlighting as a freelancer and provides several great reasons why in his updated article. If you’ve been exercising and eating well, but these healthy habits are leaving you worn out, Julian Hayes II suggests eleven possible reasons in his recent article. As a Mindfulness Instructor, Andrew Nance shares some ways to use performing arts to help children express emotions instead of acting out. On Quora, Rich Mironov gives his thoughts on the challenges of product acquisition for a large tech company, as opposed to new product development. Recommended Resources Tony Robbins is a motivational speaker who was mentioned as an inspiration by Byron Morrison, Jay Wong, Adam Siddiq, and Luis Congdon, and on his recent podcast episode, he chats with author and leadership expert Sam Walker about what it means to be a true leader. Sixth, seventh, and eighth graders can register now for the Black Girls CODE Computer History Museum Enrichment Event on October 28 in Mountain View, California to learn about designing and coding. Kimberly Bryant, the founder of Black Girls Code, was recommended by Michelle Kim. Thanks for checking out this Process Hacker News update from Hack the Process. If you liked what you saw, please leave a comment to let us know what processes you’re hacking.

Powerful Conversation, Finding Happiness, Financial Control, and More Welcome to the Process Hacker News, your weekly roundup of useful news and updates from Process Hackers who have been guests on Hack the Process with M. David Green. This week we’ve got powerful conversation, finding happiness, financial control, and more. For all the links, check out the show notes at http://www.hacktheprocess.com/2018-09-25-process-hacker-news-powerful-conversation-finding-happiness-financial-control-and-more/ Enjoy! Events Join Tom Morkes and the rest of the writers at International Authors Summit online from October 1 to 5 to uncover the secrets of becoming a professional author. Both engineering team members and managers alike can discover a manager’s role in agile and learn how to create the best team at Managing in an Agile World, presented by Ron Lichty from October 13 to 14 as part of Silicon Valley Code Camp. Planning to start a podcast? Find out if podcasting is for you by joining Nicole Holland’s webinar on October 1. Learn the power of conversations and maximize your business potential through audio at We Are Podcast 2018 which runs from October 18 to 20 in Brisbane, Australia. The event will highlight some influential podcasters, including Omar Zenhom, who is offering listeners a 25% discount if you use the code IKNOWASPEAKER to register. Media Bloggers, take a look at the video Brennan Dunn recently published: a behind the scenes look at how he personalized the Double Your Freelancing website. Steve Goldbach went on the TD Ameritrade Network to explain disruption and his book Detonate on camera with host Oliver Renick. Writing Who runs the world? Women leaders! Kimberly Wiefling provides an infographic showing their importance, where they are, and what challenges they’re meeting. Josh Haynam shares the steps he took to increase signups by 98 percent in 60 days on the Interact Blog. Marianne Williamson is a best-selling author known for books that deal with spirituality. In a recent interview with Luis Congdon, Marianne shares her wisdom about finding happiness when life knocks you down. Recommended Resources Tim Ferriss is a widely known author and speaker who impacted many, including Michelle Kim, Omar Zenhom, Alex Cespedes, Vinay Patankar, and Malek Banoun. His latest podcast episode shines the spotlight on Adobe Chief Product Officer Scott Belsky. The Smart MoneyTour hits San Francisco this October 2! Discover how to take control of your finances with Chris Hogan and Dave Ramsey, who was recommended by Engel Jones. For entrepreneurs on the other side of the world, catch Bozoma Saint-John and other big-name entrepreneurs at DigiCon XE 2018 in the Philippines from October 3 to 5. Bozoma is one of the influences recommended by Sasha Ariel Alston. Thanks for checking out this Process Hacker News update from Hack the Process. If you liked what you saw, please leave a comment to let us know what processes you’re hacking.

Diversity and inclusion in the workplace is a hot topic in today's social networks, and Michelle Kim of Awaken aims to educate businesses on how to practice it with ease and grace. She talks about actions a CEO can take to reduce unconscious biases or microaggressions, how to deal with uncomfortable conversations, and the social impacts that a business can face today based on their behaviors handling certain situations.

Delirium, Dancing, Deep Meditation, and More Welcome to the Process Hacker News, your weekly roundup of useful news and updates from Process Hackers who have been guests on Hack the Process with M. David Green. This week we’ve got delirium, dancing, deep meditation, and more. For all the links, please check out the show notes at http://www.hacktheprocess.com/2018-08-14-process-hacker-news-delirium-dancing-deep-meditation-and-more/ Enjoy! Launches There’s a new book out by Andrew Nance, Mindful Arts in the Classroom, which allows educators to introduce mindfulness in class. Events Allowances is the name of Jenny Feinberg’s new painting exhibit which will be open to the public starting September 16 in the Bay Area. Drop by to see Jenny’s bright, lively art. Media Get to know Luam Keflezgy on the Side Hustle Pro podcast as she tells Nicaila Matthews-Okome how she jumped from pre-med to following her passion and becoming a celebrity dance choreographer. In the latest episode of Double Your Freelancing, Brennan Dunn finds out how software engineer Lionel Martin builds trust through roadmapping, which is a process of Identifying your client’s needs by interviewing them. Writing In honor of Black Women’s Equal Pay Day, Michelle Kim posted a new essay to remind everyone that equality for Black women extends beyond the issue of wages. In a new article written by Jennifer Riel, she offers a more in-depth description about the integrative thinking process, and how she and co-author Roger Martin use the concept. Press releases aren’t obsolete yet. Get some media coverage for your brand or event by using these powerful tips on how to write a press release from Alistair Clay. Delirium seems to be everywhere. In a new article, Daniel Coffeen defines the word delirium as “the state of being without fixed orientation,” and discusses how it applies in his life. Recommended Resources Deepen your meditation habits with Living Compassion’s Your Practice Retreat starting September 29 to October 6 at the Zen Monastery Peace Center. Cheri Huber, mentioned in the interviews of Kate Swoboda and Mike Massy, leads Living Compassion. On the Crush the Journey Podcast, Dorie Clark, referenced by Ron Carucci, talks about her book Entrepreneurial You, and about speaking, consulting, and jazz. Dr. Shefali Tsabary’s 4th Annual EVOLVE Experience starts on October 26, but early bird tickets will be available on August 15. Dr. Shefali, a resource mentioned by Heather Chauvin, hopes to inspire, awaken, and transform your life with this three-day summit. Thanks for checking out this Process Hacker News update from Hack the Process. If you liked what you saw, please leave a rating in iTunes, and a comment to let us know what processes you’re hacking.

Anti-wave revisits their puberty years in this week's episode! Robert and Ira review EIGHTH GRADE with guest and eighth grader, Michelle Kim. Then, they talk about their top 5 pool movies. Listen for free through iTunes, Stitcher, or GooglePlay. If you thought you knew what Ira and Robert were like in puberty, you're probably right. 

Anti-wave revisits their puberty years in this week’s episode! Robert and Ira review EIGHTH GRADE with guest and eighth grader, Michelle Kim. Then, they talk about their top 5 pool movies. Listen for free through iTunes, Stitcher, or GooglePlay. If you thought you knew what Ira and Robert were like in puberty, you're probably right. 

Mindful Veterans, Scalable Sales, Training Wheels, and More Welcome to the Process Hacker News, your weekly roundup of useful news and updates from Process Hackers who have been guests on Hack the Process with M. David Green. This week we’ve got mindful veterans, scalable sales, training wheels, and more. For all the links, check out the show notes at http://www.hacktheprocess.com/process-hacker-news-for-july-10-2018-mindful-veterans-scalable-sales-training-wheels-and-more/ Enjoy! Events Get your giggle on with Sarah Cooper at the Laughing Buddha Comedy Showcase at the Triad Theater in New York on July 24. Woman veterans can now enroll in the upcoming Veteran’s Path Anchor Program which begins on July 15. In this four-month program in Colorado, vets can expect to learn and practice mindfulness tools that can support them in their daily lives. Bill Duane is the Vice Chairman of the Board at Veteran’s Path. Awards Congratulations to Jennifer Riel and Roger Martin for winning in the strategy and leadership category of Emerald Publishing’s Awards for Excellence 2018 with their article, An Integrative Methodology for Exploring Decision Choices. Launch RightMessage by Brennan Dunn is launching RightAsk, which is a great way to survey and segment your audience. Media If time is constantly an issue for you, listen to an interview with Curtis McHale as he shares some secrets for making the most of your limited time on The Productivity Show. Discover how to build an effective scalable sales process from this Close.io webinar featuring Steli Efti, Mike Sutherland, Mike Paladino, and Vinay Patankar. Get some tips on side hustling and stock trading from investor Tela Holcomb, who was interviewed by Nicaila Matthews-Okome for the Side Hustle Pro podcast. Nicole Holland guests on the Marketer of the Day Podcast with Robert Plank to discuss interviews that convert, targeting the proper audience, and building your network. Writing What do McDonald’s and Petco have in common? A sales-increasing marketing technique you can learn from! Luis Congdon writes about an effective marketing tactic that you can use for your business. Recommended Resources Akimbo, a podcast by Seth Godin has a new episode in which Seth talks about juggling, bicycles, and training wheels and how all these apply to life. Alex Cespedes and Tara Byrne are both fans of Seth Godin. Congratulations to Kimberly Bryant, one of Michelle Kim’s influences, for being honored at the annual McDonald’s 365Black Awards, which gives recognition to individuals who have had a positive impact on the African-American community. Tune in to Grow Your 1099, a podcast hosted by Josh Jones and Mitchell Levy, who was referenced by Kimberly Wiefling. Mitchell himself takes the guest chair in the latest episode, sharing details about his work-life balance. Thanks for checking out this Process Hacker News update from Hack the Process. If you liked what you saw, please leave a comment to let us know what processes you’re hacking.

Mindful Lawyers, Revolutionary Memes, Brave Magic, and More Welcome to the Process Hacker News, your weekly roundup of useful news and updates from Process Hackers who have been guests on Hack the Process with M. David Green. This week we’ve got mindful lawyers, revolutionary memes, brave magic, and more. For all the links, checkout the show notes at http://www.hacktheprocess.com/process-hacker-news-for-june-26-2018-mindful-lawyers-revolutionary-memes-brave-magic-and-more/ Enjoy! Services Loic Le Meur has launched a new version of the Leade.rs platform, matching you with the speakers you need for your events. Check it out! Events Law practitioners, Rhonda Magee invites you to join the Mindfulness in Law Society, where community is built around compassion and mindfulness. The annual national mindfulness conference for lawyers and judges, Mindfulness in Law Society ABA Conference, is also coming up in Chicago on August 3. Media The Groundless Ground Podcast by Lisa Dale Miller features Kathy L. Kain, who discusses how somatic psychotherapy helps heal patients with developmental and complex trauma Learn more about quiz marketing with Josh Haynam in his interview on the THRIVE Podcast. Oprah Winfrey has now partnered up with Apple! How is this development going to affect tech? Steve Goldbach shares his insights in an interview on The Street. Check out the slides for this presentation by Tara Hunt titled The Revolution Will Not Be Televised, but If You’re Lucky, It’ll Be Memed, presented this month at the Canadian Cable & Telecommunications Association for Marketing Leadership Forum. Writing Pitching podcasts for interviews is a great promotional strategy these days. Author Maria Dismondy has a new article giving you the basics on how to get on a podcast. Wondering if unconscious bias training is effective? Read what Michelle Kim has to say about it. Alex Hillman did a Q&A interview for Ryan Chatterton, focusing on his hiring process for Indy Hall. In a recent blog post, Jon Dykstra points out the similarities and differences between flipping websites and flipping real estate. Recommended Resources Enjoy a week of meditation and relaxation beginning July 7 at the There is Nothing Wrong with You Retreat with Cheri Huber, who was referenced by Kate Swoboda and Mike Massy. Elizabeth Gilbert is a bestselling author who inspired a lot of folks, including Jenny Feinberg and Tara Byrne, and you’ll find her along with Cheryl Strayed holding self-discovery workshops at Brave Magic: An Invitation to Curiosity, Creativity, and Courage from September 20 to 23 at 1440 Mulitveristy north of Santa Cruz, California.

Hosting Teas, Urgent Sales, Thriving Creatives, and more in Process Hacker News from Hack the Process Podcast Welcome to the Process Hacker News, your weekly roundup of useful news and updates from Process Hackers who have been guests on Hack the Process with M. David Green. This week we’ve got hosting teas, urgent sales, thriving creatives, and more. Enjoy! Events Tea with Strangers, founded by Ankit Shah, is hosting several events this month! See if anyone is hosting a tea time in your area, and make some new friends. From September 20 to 21, the Agile Greece Summit 2018 will feature some great speakers, and Rich Mironov will take part to speak about the need for user validation. You can listen to George Mumford, Rose Pavlov, and Rhonda Magee explain mindfulness for social justice at a three-day conference of contemplation and compassion from October 5 to 7 at the Garrison Institute. Books The cover of Sarah Cooper’s upcoming book, How to be Successful without Hurting Men’s Feelings, has been revealed, and the book is now available for preorder! Media Season 2 of the Double Your Freelancing Podcast is out! In the newest episode, you’ll hear host Brennan Dunn chatting with Dustin Robertson, the CMO of Drip Automation Software. Listen to what Curtis McHale thinks of Dan Zadra’s book, Where Will You Be Five Years from Today?, on his book review podcast, Should I Read It. Side Hustle Pro just released an interview with author, speaker, and Essence Senior Editor Charreah Jackson, in which host Nicaila Matthews Okome chats with Charreah about her new book, her side hustles, and more. In the newest episode of In the Trenches, Tom Morkes welcomes Deadline Funnel CEO Jack Born, and they get into the topic of increasing sales by using scarcity and urgency. Writing Find out the research process used by LinkedIn’s Sunny Patel in this article from Andi Galpern. The most recent Hack the Process guest, Jennifer Riel got asked ten questions in an interview with Kurt Manwaring of From the Desk. Recommended Resources An event for women leaders is taking place in Irvine, California. You can now register for BizChix 2018 Live: Leadership for Women Entrepreneurs happening in November, which will be led by its CEO, Natalie Eckdahl, one of the influences mentioned by Maria Dismondy. If you’re in New York City on June 20, catch Jeff Goins, an author and speaker recommended by Curtis McHale, as he talks about his book, Real Artists Don’t Starve: Timeless Strategies for Thriving in the New Creative Age. If you’ve got a tough job, but you want to succeed in high-stress situations, tune in to this new podcast episode by Tim Ferriss, who has a number of followers among Hack the Process guests, including Michelle Kim, Omar Zenhom, and Alex Cespedes. Thanks for checking out this Process Hacker News update from Hack the Process. If you liked what you saw, please leave a comment to let us know what processes you’re hacking.

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Welcome to the Process Hacker News, your weekly roundup of useful news and updates from Process Hackers who have been guests on Hack the Process with M. David Green. This week we’ve got PR misconceptions, talent strategies, book reviews, and more. Enjoy! Media Increase your focus dramatically by asking yourself this question that Jay Wong has for you. Doing things differently may just help you find your way to success. Listen to how Josh Haynam adjusted his process and approach until his company became a hit on the Make It Snappy Show. Curtis McHale has been publishing book reviews on his podcast, Should I Read It, and his most recent review is of a book by Michael Hyatt titled Your Best Year Ever. Listen in! Pamela Wasley advises entrepreneurs to be strategic with talent on the Absolute Advantage podcast. Writing In honor of International Day Against Homophobia, Biphobia, Intersexism, and Transphobia, Michelle Kim has written a little reminder for the LGBTQI community. What are the three common customer misconceptions about public relations? You can find out from an article written by Ricky Yean. A personal story about how a friend cheated him for money is shared by Luis Congdon, and he reveals the lessons he learned from this unfortunate experience in his latest Entrepreneur article. Michelle Dale gets more personal in her recent blog post and tells about the true story of her path to confidence and self-discovery as a digital nomad. The founder of Burning Man, Larry Harvey, recently passed away, and Loïc Le Meur wrote a post in his honor. Recommended Resources One of the folks that Michelle Kim looks up to, Kimberly Bryant of Black Girls Code, has been honored at Silicon Valley Forum’s 21st Visionary Awards. Congratulations, Kimberly! Are you working your schedule or is your schedule working you? Find out on this episode of the Here and Now Toronto Podcast with guest Eric Termuende, a workplace expert recommendation made by Tara Byrne. Amy Hoy, referenced by Alex Hillman, has written a blog post ranking nine ways to make software-as-a-service (Saas) customers hate you. Thanks for checking out this Process Hacker News update from Hack the Process. If you liked what you saw, please leave a comment to let us know what processes you’re hacking.

Welcome to the Process Hacker News, your weekly roundup of useful news and updates from Process Hackers who have been guests on Hack the Process with M. David Green. This week we’ve got psychic intuition, pricing turmoil, the delirium of kairos, and more. Enjoy! For all the links, check out the show notes at: http://www.hacktheprocess.com/process-hacker-news-for-may-1-2018-psychic-intuition-pricing-turmoil-the-delirium-of-kairos-and-more/ Events Jenny Feinberg will be holding a solo exhibition of her paintings starting June 1 at Serendipity Labs in Hollywood. Join Rhonda Magee, Sharon Salzberg, and Acharya Fleet Maull for a few days of meditation at Compassion in Action, which will run from August 15 to 19. There’s also a video of Rhonda’s recent talk, Toward Just Healthcare for All: Revolutionary Reflections on Mindfulness, Social Justice, and Integrative Medicine. Media Brennan Dunn created RightMessage even when his other business, Double Your Freelancing was doing great. Why? Listen to his story on the Mixergy Podcast. In an episode of It’s Time to Sell Podcast, you’ll hear Gavin Zuchlinski discuss how to run an efficient and productive business. Yoga expert, speaker, and author Suzan Colon speaks with Paula Jenkins about her book and her work on the Jumpstart Your Joy Podcast. Let Julian Hayes II teach you how to sleep your way to success on the 5 o’clock Hustle Podcast. Watch this video by Guy and Ilan Ferdman for a chance to win free spiritual books and a program as well. Join now! Writing Andrew Hsieh, editor-in-chief at The Slant, interviews Michelle Kim about how she hopes to redefine how companies talk about diversity and inclusion. A recently published Redbull article by Seth Abramovitch featured Sarah Cooper, and reveals how she went from being a Google designer to a comedian. Mark Silver has been holding off on updating the rates for his services on Heart of Business for some time now. Read how he feels about changing prices. Kairos is knowing the right moment, and Daniel Coffeen shares his musings on the delirium of that often-sought perfect state. Recommended Resources Dublin, get ready! One of Jay Wong’s favorite authors, Neil Gaiman is speaking at the International Literature Festival in Dublin on May 27. The Ziglar Legacy Conference and Behind-the-Scenes Tour of Ziglar Headquarters will happen from May 3 to 4, featuring various big names in the industry. Zig Ziglar is a major influence for Engel Jones. Keith Ferrazzi emphasizes the value of showing up early and shares his back story in the latest video he published. Keith’s book, Never Eat Alone, was mentioned by Ryan Waggoner in his interview. Thanks for checking out this Process Hacker News update from Hack the Process. If you liked what you saw, please leave a comment to let us know what processes you’re hacking.