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Play Episode Listen Later Jul 7, 2024 40:43

There is never a shortage of stories to follow across the National Park System, whether you're in the West at Olympic National Park, the Northeast at Acadia National Park, or the Southwest at Grand Canyon National Park. This week, Contributing Editor Kim O'Connell is down in North Carolina to spend a few days at Cape Hatteras National Seashore, which has no shortage of news to report on, whether it's leatherback sea turtles nesting, the restoration of Cape Hatteras Light, or the collapse of houses into the Atlantic Ocean at Rodanthe. Kim is working on a number of those stories for the Traveler, and we're going to check in with her today to learn what she's discovering.

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Two leatherback sea turtle nests found on Cape Hatteras

WHRO Reports

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 2, 2024

It's the first time the National Park Service has found two nests in one season since the agency started tracking the data.

"The Little Mermaid" Musical at First Flight High School

Outer Banks This Week

Play Episode Listen Later May 14, 2024 11:40

In this stand-alone episode of the podcast Blake Taft, director of "The Little Mermaid" musical, originating from Cape Hatteras Secondary School, talks with Justin about his background in theater, how the production was brought to life by students of Cape Hatteras and what other plays and/or musicals are on the horizon.

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Ep.04 John DePersenaire: Speed Reduction Zones in the North Atlantic

The Katie C. Sawyer Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 24, 2024 71:07

CONTACT YOUR LOCAL CONGRESSMAN: https://www.boatingunited.org/take-action/congress-protect-boaters-speed-restrictions/? Summary In this conversation, Katie C. Sawyer and John DePersenaire discuss the proposed rule for the North Atlantic right whale situation and its implications for boaters and seaboard communities. They highlight the importance of speed for recreational fishermen and the economic impact of the proposed rule. They also emphasize the need for collaboration and the use of technology to address the issue. The regulatory process and timeline are also discussed. The conversation discusses the dual path process of rulemaking, with an interagency review and a public side. The role of the Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs (OIRA) is explained, along with the challenges of the public not being aware of any changes made to the rule. The formation and work of the Whale and Vessel Safety Task Force is highlighted. The current stage of the rule being in OIRA's hands is discussed, along with the strategy for the ongoing public comment period. The involvement of the Small Business Administration and the importance of a comprehensive approach are emphasized. The potential of recreational anglers as an untapped resource is mentioned, and a call to action is made to reach out to local congressmen and participate in the Boating United action alert. Takeaways The proposed rule for the North Atlantic right whale situation has significant implications for fishermen, including economic impact and access to fisheries. Speed is essential for fishermen to reach fishing grounds and maximize their trips, and the proposed rule would greatly restrict their ability to do so. Collaboration and the use of technology, such as artificial intelligence and marine electronics, can help reduce the risk of vessel strikes on whales. The regulatory process for the proposed rule involves public comments and review by various agencies, with the final decision taking into account economic impacts and other factors. The rulemaking process involves both an interagency review and a public side, with the Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs (OIRA) playing a key role. The public is not made aware of any changes made to the rule during the interagency review, creating uncertainty. The Whale and Vessel Safety Task Force is working on a comprehensive approach to reduce vessel strike risk and protect North Atlantic right whales. The current stage of the rule is in OIRA's hands, and there is an ongoing public comment period.a The involvement of the Small Business Administration and the need for a balanced approach that considers both industry needs and whale protection are important. Recreational anglers have the potential to contribute valuable information and technology to mitigate the risk of vessel strikes. Transcript Katie (01:42.718) What's up, you guys? Welcome to the Katie C. Sawyer podcast. I'm sitting down with John DePerson here today. John, tell us a little bit about yourself and who you are. John DePersenaire (02:26.149) Yeah, sure. Thank you, Katie. And thanks for having me on. So my name is John DePersonere and I'm the Director of Government Affairs. So that's a really broad title and it really encompasses a lot of different aspects of my portfolio of work. So obviously things like regulatory issues, government affairs issues, things that have to do with either regulatory or legislation that impacts us as a manufacturer in the marine industry, but also how our customers use the boats. So like fisheries management, that's all really important part of that. as well, but also then on the sustainability side, looking at things like efficiency, looking at our energy use, looking at our waste stream, all those sort of things, supporting efforts to support fish habitat and some other projects that we're doing. So it's a really broad scope of work and it's really, really interesting. Katie (03:23.458) That's awesome. That's a huge responsibility on your end. And like you said, broad. Before I started fishing, I was working, not even close, but I was working as director of environmental health and safety for an oil and gas company. And it's just like there's like this entire channel of products that you're supposed to manage. And you're like, I like this is so, so broad. But that's amazing. I'm really, really honored to be sitting with you here today. Thank you so much for giving your time. I really want to jump into what's going on. on right now with the North Atlantic right whale situation and the proposed rule that was set forth in August of 2022 and how that's affected us and what we can see moving forward. So can you just give us a little bit of a status on what's going on with the right whales and what the what rule was proposed as a reaction of that? John DePersenaire (04:17.536) Yeah, so, you know, this is an issue the industry has really been following carefully for the past year and a half now. And as you said, you know, this proposed rule came out in August of 2022, and it was driven by NOAA. So NOAA has a an office within it's called the Office of Protective Resources. And their job is to carry out and implement. the mandates of the Marine Mammal Protection Act and the Endangered Species Act. So with North Atlantic right whales, they are, there's no question that they are in pretty serious, dire concern in terms of a population size. And just, you know, recognizing the history of that species, it really was one of the targeted, most targeted species in commercial whaling for centuries, which really- drove down the population, but also imposed some sort of ecological constraints, which just made it much harder to rebuild when commercial whaling stops. So like when you fish a, or not even fish, but when you hunt a population down that low, you start to have genetic issues. And we see that like with, you know, upland hunting and things like that, you try to manage for a strong gene stock. And so that was one of the constraints. So that like, you know, if you look at reproductive output for North Atlantic right whales, it has been trailing off. And so it just makes it that much harder to rebuild. So they know the two main sources of mortality for North Atlantic right whales are entanglement with fishing gear, mostly lobster pots up in Massachusetts and North and also up in Canada where they spend their summers and vessel strikes. And so NOAA has been trying to... up with management measures that addressed those two sources of mortality. And so the rule that came out in August, that was directed towards the latter, that was directed towards reducing risk of vessel strikes. And what that did was it expanded upon an existing rule that was in place starting in 2008. And what it did was it dropped the size class of vessel that would be subject to vessel speed rules. It expanded the areas that would be subject to the seasonal management areas. John DePersenaire (06:39.036) And it also expanded the vessels. So it dropped it down from 65 and above down to 35 feet and above. And so what that really did was originally the 2008 rule was really focused more on the ocean-going vessels, so like the container ships, the tankers, some of those really high displacement, high tonnage boats. It also captured some of the recreational fleet as well. but the intent was really the bigger ocean growing vessels. And so this step now starts to bring in a massively different segment of the fleet now. And you're starting to bring in center consoles and a whole bunch of boats that have probably never even seen a North Atlantic right whale. And so this is all about reducing risk. And this is what is somewhat different than what we typically deal with fisheries management. Katie, I know you're really versed on highly migratory species, you know, and so a lot of times we're dealing with, you know, quota setting and, you know, really specific percent reductions, trying to get to a sustainable biomass and things like that. So we can tailor regulations based on that percent reduction we have to achieve. This is a little bit more nebulous in the sense that we don't actually have that number that we need to reduce risk by. And so that's a really challenging thing. for us to look at. And so we're just not versed in trying to figure out how we come up with a solution to that. And so when we first saw the rule, we're like, oh my God, this is gonna impact a vast number of boats. For a lot of people, it's gonna go into effect November 1st and last through the end of May. So those are really, really important times of year for up and down the coast now. I mean, as you know, like we have some of the best tuna fishing off of... New York and New Jersey now in November and December, which is crazy to think, but I mean, it's just, those are no longer months when people have their boat out of the water and up on the hard for the winter. It's, you know, we're fishing all the way through January. And so that becomes a real, real big impact. Also guys that move their boats from say our area down to South Florida in the fall, you know, they're gonna be subject to this. And so what, you know, typically is a... John DePersenaire (09:02.128) know, two, three day trip now becomes something massively different when you're going 10 knots. And so there's all sort of implications that we have to think about in terms of impacts of this. But one of our biggest criticisms was obviously, you know, a recreational boat hitting a North Atlantic right whale is an extremely rare instance. In fact, we have some third party analysis that really shows that it is like that one in a million chance. I mean, that really is numbers of boats and the numbers of strikes that are attributed to those boats under 65 feet. But the other thing that we were we were sort of upset about was that there was really no alternative in there that took into consideration technology, right? And so, you know, Katie, I know you've run boats for a long time and, you know, boats are constantly improving it. And so for, you know, every time you come out with a new model, it's always safer than the last model. And that's just a function of, you know, engineering, design, improvements in marine electronics. And so safety is just one of those key elements when you're building boats, you know, safety, efficiency, performance, amenities are sort of like the top four things, right? And so a big part of safety is collision avoidance. Like, and we don't want to hit anything that's on the water. I mean, you know, like, Katie (10:29.37) I think what a lot of people don't understand is that a vessel between 35-65 foot, if it hits a whale, we know and there's gonna be damage. There's gonna be significant damage to the vessel and like you said, potentially the safety of the people on board. That's a really good point. John DePersenaire (10:47.82) Yeah, so I mean, the point is, is that, you know, this is a space that, you know, we and other builders and the whole marine industry are constantly working on. It's not like we just heard about this rule and like, now let's figure out something to do here to not hit whales. Like this is just something we do and not to put it in a in-person way, but a North Atlantic right whale is just another object in the water that we do not want to hit. And we have been developing products over these years that allows us not to hit them at a reduced rate. So. We've been making progress on this and we were, it was unfortunate that there were no alternatives that kind of gave us credit for that or provided an opportunity to explore how technology can reduce risk. So, of course. Katie (11:31.502) I'm going to stop you right there before you go on because this is a great segue. The first thing I want to touch on is you said a couple things throughout that were interesting points. So from what I understand, correct me if I'm wrong, in 2008 there were speed reduction zones put in place in the Atlantic Northwest of the ocean, Atlantic Northwest, Northeast of the U.S. That always gets confusing for me. Where speed reduction zones for ships above 65 foot. length. Is that correct? John DePersenaire (12:03.6) That is correct. And most of those areas were around sort of the entrances to major courts. So like the approach to New York Harbor, Delaware Bay, Chesapeake Bay, Cape Fear. Then there was also areas south of Cape Hatteras where there are seasonal nursing areas and calving areas. So like where the mother and the calf are spending a lot of time down there in the winter time. And they are vulnerable down there, there's no question. Katie (12:29.118) Yeah, for sure. And it's specific in areas where you see a lot of cargo ships coming through because it's significant to global trade and economy. Now, can you tell us a little bit about how, if there was any impact on our economy based on the speed reduction zones for vessels of that size? John DePersenaire (12:49.304) Yeah, I mean, you know, one thing that's been interesting about this rule is it sort of brought a lot of different sectors together that typically didn't work on, you know, issues together. And so one of those, well, a couple of those sectors were pilots, you know, fast ferries, the shipping interests, the ports, and, you know, so offshore wind, you know, they all have really big concerns and they... speculate it's going to have implications not only for their operational needs, but also you think about just getting product to shelves. Does that impact supply chain issues? Does that impact availability of products? Does that impact cost to the consumer? So all those sort of things are playing into this and they certainly have implications that are not discrete to recreational fishing and boating, this is something that would impact a significantly broad part of the maritime commerce in general. Katie (13:56.398) Mm-hmm. But, okay, let's talk about how you said it's difficult, I believe, I think you said that it's difficult to quantify the population of whales right now. Do we know how long it takes for them to reproduce and they have how many, they have one pup, I think it's a pup, right, a whale? I'm not sure, one baby, a calf, that's right. A calf at a time, correct? And every now and then too, but like you were saying, John DePersenaire (14:18.835) Cheers. Katie (14:27.912) significantly decreased base to overfishing or over harvesting. So in the past, way years ago. So I just want to like really clear up the blurry areas of the last 15 years of regulation to help protect these Atlantic right whales. Is that what you said? Is it the population's difficult to quantify? John DePersenaire (14:53.912) Well, it's not typically challenging to quantify it. And in fact, North Atlantic right whales are probably one of the most studied and monitored large marine mammal populations in the world. I mean, that's a fact. What I think difficult is that, again, we're not seeing reproductive output that would sort of get us to that number that they believe it needs to be at to be considered sustainable. And so, like, for example, I'm not a North Atlantic right whale biologist, so I don't know the exact numbers in terms of, you know, their gestation period and how, you know, their sort of calving cycle. But I do know from a management standpoint, the agency is sort of looking for 50 calves a year to, for many years to get the population to a sustainable level. And if you look at reproductive output over the past, you know, 10 years, I don't think we've gotten to 50 once, you know. So it's sort of underperforming and there's a lot of reasons for that. You know, genetic issues are one, the population size is small, so it's harder for them to communicate and find the mates. You know, there's things happening with climate change and their food source, you know, they're really dependent on copepods and, you know, they're not sort of like a humpback that can, you know, switch from, you know, herring to bunker to, you know, anchovy, you know, like, you know, they're really discreet feeders and they are really keyed in on copepods. And so their availability of copepods is somewhat changing and perhaps putting them in more areas where they're vulnerable to things like ship strikes. So there's a lot of challenges that are happening there. Katie (16:37.45) Yes, excellent answer. I love it. So what we're seeing is we're trying to, well, Noah put forth a rule, a proposed rule to try and limit the speed of vessels to help protect these whales, but there's lots of potential issues associated with that. Now you mentioned taking into... Now, you mentioned taking into account technology. Can you go on that a little bit for me? John DePersenaire (17:07.936) Yeah, so, you know, and I think it's important, maybe your audience, it's not really important, but yeah, I know for some people involved with this issue, this is important, and they don't quite understand this, that for us, speed is an essential element of our boats, right? Not only is it, you know, safer, you know, to run a boat when it's, you know, operating at a, you know, at the most optimal speed. But for us, we're not necessarily designed to be out in weather that a container ship can be out in. And so speed allows us to maximize on these weather windows of opportunity, right? And so if we are trying to get to fishing grounds and it takes us say two hours to get out there, we can conduct our trip and get back before that weather turns and makes it unsafe out there. If we are now forced to, you know, to have that two hour trip now become six hours to get out to wherever those grounds are, that could put us in a unsafe situation or we just canceled the trip altogether because the weather window was not big enough. So speed is one of those things and just everything about our vessels is designed around performance, speed and range. And that's really the only way recreational guys can access the fisheries. I mean, we are not... commercial fishermen where we can go out, you know, 10 days at a time and, you know, say goodbye to the family and say, Hey, I'm going marlin fishing. I'll be back in 10 days. Maybe some people can do that, but you know, it's a different, it's a different element for us, you know? And so speed is, is it's not something we can dismiss and say, well, you guys can just go slow and still carry on your way. Like it doesn't work that way. Speed is an essential element of our boats. Katie (18:42.37) Yeah. Katie (18:54.002) And why is it important for these fishermen to be able to get out to the fishing grounds instead of canceling their trip when there's weather? Like tell us about the economic benefits of that. John DePersenaire (19:02.964) Oh, I mean, yeah, I mean, so well, I mean, it's well, first of all, it's it drives a significant economic impact. I mean, so just from Viking standpoint, I mean, this is a really prime example. You know, we're the leader of the world leader in terms of building sport fish boats. You know, we produce the most in the world and our boats are really designed exactly to go far and fast and engage the highly migratory species. And so if you take away our ability to. to go fast and access the fish that our boats are designed to do. I mean, the value of that goes down significantly, you know. And so, you know, we have over 2,000 employees that are just building boats to go fast and offshore. I mean, that's exactly what we have a workforce that's doing every day, you know, and that includes electronics folks and everything. So the impact is it just cannot be understated more. And I think what was so alarming in Katie (19:49.055) locally. John DePersenaire (20:03.46) the proposed rule in terms of the cost benefit analysis that NOAA put together, they did not understand that trips would be canceled and people wouldn't even take trips under a 10 knot limit. And so yeah, and this is the other thing that's really important. So it's not like these areas are going to be really, you know, discrete like they were in 2008 and they were around just, you know, entrances to inlets and ports and things like that. know, in some cases, like in the Middle Atlantic, they're going offshore 90, 100 miles, you know, and so, you know, it's hard to imagine even going 20 or 30 miles at 10 knots in a recreational boat. I mean, it's just, it's hard to imagine that. And I just know that would just drive people not to do it. Their boats would come out, you know, December or October 31st, they wouldn't go back in until June 1st, and, you know, you're missing a massive amount of economic activity for that. Katie (20:42.614) No, it's... John DePersenaire (20:57.268) And also, I mean, you're really denying a lot of people access to fisheries. So, you know, I know you're a big, you know, HMS fisherman. And so that's one of those fisheries where only the public can only access that through a boat. Like, so the HMS permit that everyone gets that goes out in Marlin and tuna fishes, you know, that's assigned to a vessel. It's not like you can fish for them from shore. It's just illegal to do that, quite frankly, which is an interesting discussion all in itself. But. Katie (20:57.364) Yeah. Katie (21:21.751) Yeah. John DePersenaire (21:25.42) So you have to go out on either your own boat, your friend's boat, a charter boat, a headboat, you know? And so when you start to think about how this would impact those boats, you almost become, it almost becomes an obstacle for the public to access those fisheries, which are really economically valuable, sustainably managed and really good eating, you know, for some of them, not marlin, of course. Katie (21:47.074) Mm-hmm. Yep. No. Yeah. John DePersenaire (21:50.36) But you know what I mean, so it becomes this impediment for the public to access a well-managed resource. And I think that's like a really unintended consequence that they didn't quite think about when they put this into place. Katie (22:02.166) Right, definitely. Because, I mean, it's not just, like you said, it's not just all the jobs that would be at risk at Viking. It's all of these seaboard communities that depend on the tourism, that depend on people wanting to go offshore and go fishing recreationally. Didn't you tell me, John, that you did a impact study on one specific operation and the amount of economic loss that company would had was just exponential? What was that? John DePersenaire (22:30.188) Yeah, so that's a tour boat captain out of North Jersey. And his specialty is getting folks out, particularly in the fall, to chase striped bass and tuna. And he's built a great business on that. He's got several captains, quite a few mates. He's got three boats. And just looking at his operation between the times that this rule would be in effect between November 1st and the end of May. He was looking at losing 70 trips. And so that was roughly working out to $140,000 a year, just for him. And it's not just him as the owner operator, but his mates, the other captains that run that boat, the people that detail and service his boat, the people he buys the bait from. It's just that you talked about, yeah, the marina where, I mean, all that shoreside infrastructure that supports the recreational fishery and commercial fishery would be impacted. Katie (23:09.567) Yeah. Katie (23:17.226) The Marina. All the support. Katie (23:28.09) Yeah. And then you have situations like, for example, the White Marlin Open in Ocean City, where I mean, it's not really in the zone, but you have I'm sorry, not really in the time frame, but you have so many people coming to these communities and it's quantifiable millions of dollars being brought into these communities just so that people can be a part of the recreational fishing sector. Like, I mean, that's crazy. That's crazy to me. Hotels, restaurants, all of that Katie (23:57.904) really big in the northeast. So I find that interesting. I'd like to also touch a little bit on how we have... there seems to be like a big disconnect between what people are, how some people are dubbed environmentalists. It's kind of like a like a bad word sometimes in our industry, which is strange because in my mind, like I'm an environmentalist 100%. I have a master's degree in environmental science, you know, like I, I'm an environmentalist, but I love the ocean. I'm also a fisherman. And I think that there's like this stipulation between the parties other every single time. And for example, I think that a lot of people think that fishermen aren't conservationists, that fishermen don't love the ocean, but we're the ones that are spending our lives out on the ocean that want to share that with other people. And I think it's important to really highlight the fact that a lot of times you'll see polarization between the parties, but that involving different stakeholders is really important in making educated good benefit of the whale population. You touched on how this has brought together a lot of different stakeholders. Can you tell me a little bit more about that? John DePersenaire (25:18.348) Yeah, and that's a really good perspective. And so, you know, one of the things that when we saw the rule come out and sort of analyzed it, and, you know, we obviously knew it was gonna have impacts from an economic standpoint and an access standpoint. But we also knew that there was other ways of addressing this. Like, we just feel like we're too smart of an industry not to come up with another way of, or providing another tool to help with this issue. And so what we did was we pulled together a task force of experts in various different fields, from marine electronics to analyzing very high resolution satellite to artificial intelligence, processing thermal imagery and visual imagery, forward-facing sonar, modelers that work on crime analysis, but they can see an application here for managing whales, even friends at like, you know, ROFs, which, you know, I know a lot of your listeners are really familiar with, you know, they have a really interesting approach that, you know, they analyze sea conditions looking for marlin and tuna, but that same application can be used to figure out where we may want to focus management efforts for North Atlantic right whale. So all of this gives us the ability to start to think about how we could more... Katie (26:36.45) So cool. John DePersenaire (26:43.3) dynamically manage this and also have more nuanced approaches that are consistent with what we see in terms of differences of risk across vessel classes. So like what we may want to see for say an ocean going vessel, like a container ship, may not be the best approach for what we see on a 35 foot center console. You know, there's just the attributes of those vessels. It's just vastly different. there's safety concerns that, say the center console can take a base of action, whereas a container ship just, they're not at liberty to take action or slow down or any of those things. So the idea of this task force was really to look at ways that we could start to think about it on that more nuanced level. And also a big part of that was really putting an aggressive thought towards leveraging technology. And again, I... spoke before about how we're always building a safer boat every day. It's not like we build a less safe boat tomorrow. We're just constantly improving upon that. But what's really interesting about the task force is that we've put this really aggressive focus on marine mammals. So we've always been trying to avoid anything that's in the water. And now we've just sort of thought about how we can be more. narrowly focused to speed up acceleration for marine mammals. So for instance, we did a pilot project last December off the coast of New Jersey and we affixed, you know, so Viking, Atlantic Marine Electronics, working with a company, you know, so we put a FLIR on top of a commercial fishing boat out of Barnegotte Light, you know, and FLIR is something you're familiar with, you know, a lot of our boats have that, you know, it's nothing new, right? And so what was really knew about this was that the FLIR feed was being processed real time by an artificial intelligence algorithm. So it was able to, as that feed was coming in, it was able to classify a whale spout, you know, so its breath, it could pick that up, and also its body. And so it was a really fascinating exercise to see what is possible. And it wasn't perfect. John DePersenaire (29:04.056) But as you know, with AI, it's just, the training is what makes it so good. So the more these things are used, the more data we can throw at them. That's what's really going to spark this innovation. That's what's really going to accelerate this process. And I think what's so interesting about that is that it's coming from the private sector. So you talked about environmentalists. It's, I'm not dismissing any other industry, but we're really at the forefront of trying to find. pathways here to reduce our risk of hitting whales. And that's a really important thing. So one of the things that the task force asked for, you know, over a year and a half ago was for NOAA to convene a workshop and to pull all these various stakeholders together, you know, and figure out how we can collaborate. You know, what are people working on in all these different buckets that have to sort of be addressed and come together to create this overall bigger risk reduction approach. And so that workshop was finally convened last week. And I think it demonstrated a couple of things. First of all, I think it demonstrated that we are sincere. We're here to work. We're not starting from zero. And we've been focusing on this over the past 12 months. The other, I think, really important thing was that we're open to working with anyone. So this is sort of separate from the vessel speed rule in the sense that we're committing long term to doing our part in this issue. And so we are willing to work with anyone. If anyone has a project that they've been working on that has some relevance for this and there's some ability to assist or support what they're doing or bringing them on. And we can provide vessel time on one of our demo boats or something like that. We are open to working through this solution in good faith. And that's something I think was, I think our industry really demonstrated that. commitment to this and I was very impressed and really I was quite proud, you know, to show us, you know, the garments, the Navico's, the, you know, the fathoms, the roffs of the world to show up and say, yeah, what can we do? You know, let's roll up our sleeves. Let's think about this as a problem that we can all collectively contribute to and make some real progress towards. So it was great to see that. Katie (31:18.766) Yeah. That's awesome. I love, I got chicken skin. That's super cool. Um, congratulations. Can you give us like a timeline breakdown? A little idea on the regulatory side, how it looks, because this is where things get a little blurry for me, if I'm being honest. But the regulatory side, how it looks, you, um, they, they proposed a rule. Then the Whale and Vessel Safety Task Force, that's what it's called, right? That's the name for it? Was assembled. And tell me a little bit about the timeline. that has ensued since the rule was proposed and what has gone on y'all's end and on the government end. John DePersenaire (31:58.124) Okay, yeah, so like you said, the rule was introduced in August of 2022, and it's following, it's moving forward with the traditional federal rulemaking process. So it was open for public comments for, originally it was open for 30 days, believe it or not. And so one of the first things we did, I think the next day or the day after that, Viking put in a request for an extension for the public comment period, because we just. I mean, we knew immediately that this was the most consequential regulation that was ever going to impact our industry. Katie (32:32.35) I mean it's crazy. You already touched on the fact that like 10 knots is so slow. You guys, 10 knots you get like approximately 10 miles in one hour. That is so slow. That's what we go at night when we can't see anything. John DePersenaire (32:37.448) Right. John DePersenaire (32:43.02) Yeah. Right. Right. And so we knew we needed more time. So we put that request in. We got another 30 days. So the comment period was open for a total of 60 days. And so there was over 90,000 comments that were submitted from various interest groups. And we're very passionate about this issue, but there's also that other side that are very passionate about whale conservation, and rightfully John DePersenaire (33:17.368) we agree that we need to do something to help them. Absolutely we do. And so when that comment period closes, Noah is then charged with reviewing all those comments and responding to them. Not necessarily each individual comment per se, but the general themes of the comments. So there could have been say, 5,000 comments that were all sort of geared in one direction or. there may be 10,000 comments that came from an action alert or something like that. So they can respond to them as an aggregate, not necessarily each individual one. And so they look at those comments and they take them into consideration and they think about how they could perhaps modify the regulation. And so they can do a couple of things. They can, they can make modifications in response to those comments where they can do nothing and move forward with it. And so that's something that the public is not aware. And when, yeah, and so when federal rulemaking is taking place, in fact, the agency charged with putting forward that rule typically has, you know, is not able to talk about specifics in terms of modifications to what they may be considering or may have done in that rule. So it's sort of an unknown how this is sort of playing out. And so, but. Katie (34:13.95) It's behind closed doors. John DePersenaire (34:37.44) it has taken a much longer time. So originally when the rule came out in 2022, there was this sense, again, I talked about that really short public comment period, 30 days, but there was also this thought that they wanted to hurry this up and have it in place by November of 2022. And so we were like, oh my God, how can this dig? And so that was sort of the timeframe that the agency was initially pushing. And so as you can see, that's been Katie (34:55.77) Oh my gosh. Ah! John DePersenaire (35:07.068) significantly, significantly extended and not just because of the impacts to, you know, again, going back not to the impacts just to us, you're talking about, you know, national economy wide sort of impacts that have to be considered. And it wasn't just us that were submitting comments with concerns, it was the ports, it was the pilot associations, it was the shipping interests, it was the ferries, it was a whole host of people that make a living or their businesses tied to moving on the oceans. So it's a big deal. And so, so as you can see, we're much farther along than the original timeframe that no one wanted to get this done by. And so now we've just transitioned into this final step. And so some of you may have seen the first week of March, the rule went from the Department of Commerce, it went to a small office within the White House. It's called the Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs. And that's sort of this final analysis where they look at all the work that NOAA has done in developing the rule. They look at their cost benefit analysis, their modeling exercises, how they are looking at risk reduction, what alternatives they've put forward, the economic impacts. So they look at sort of all of that. And they also, even though they're not necessarily a political branch, they look at sort of the of the White House, they also try to mesh up what this rule could do in terms of some of the priorities of the administration. So, you know, things like, you know, how will this impact American jobs? How would it impact domestic manufacturing? How would this impact inflation? How would this impact supply chain issues? All sort of things that we've been talking about over the past few years. So that could come into play in this, because of course, when... Katie (36:55.158) macroscopic view. John DePersenaire (37:01.46) no one in the Office of Protected Resources put forward a rule, they're not necessarily in the position where they have to give so much weight to some of those bigger sort of impacts. They're really just, again, their mandate is really to put forward measures that seek to protect and rebuild an endangered species. And that's, so this sort of all comes together at this final stage. And there are opportunities for the public to weigh in. There's also opportunities for, you know, members of Congress and other people to weigh in this process. It's sort of a dual path project that happened in parallel. One is an interagency review, which is not open to the public. So that's where this office of OIRA will reach out to, say, Interior or Commerce, all these different departments within the federal government, and ask about their input and thoughts on the rule and how it would impact the the issues and the stakeholders that they're charged with dealing with. And then also there's this public side. So the members of the public actually can request a meeting with OIRA and then the final stage. Katie (38:12.882) OIRA is Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs. And so when the rule got pushed to OIRA or given to OIRA, did it then become public knowledge or is it still all behind closed doors? We don't know what's going on after the comment period. John DePersenaire (38:17.68) That's right. John DePersenaire (38:29.26) Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's what's so challenging about this. Again, I said there is an opportunity for the public to weigh in and have a meeting, but when the rule advances, the public is not made aware if any changes have been made. So we understand that some changes were in consideration, but we don't know specifics or if they address all of our concerns. We have no idea. Katie (38:54.818) from that public comment period, way at the beginning. Wow, so all this time, it's been behind closed doors. We have no idea what's being discussed or if there have been any changes being made. We can speculate on what's being discussed, but if there have been any changes being made, and then it gets pushed over to OIRA, we still don't know, but there is an opening for public comment. When is that opening for public comment? Has it already happened? John DePersenaire (38:57.296) Correct. Yes. John DePersenaire (39:21.912) So it starts when the rule is forwarded to OIRA. So it's open now as of the odds of March. And we don't know exactly when that closes. So there's a bit of uncertainty in the speed at which a rule can stay or advance out of OIRA. And there's a couple different things that could happen here. One, OIRA could review this and say there are concerns. And we need to go back and come up with different, or not different, but add different alternatives, or add new ways of dealing with this issue. So thinking back to the original rule that came out, there was a whole bunch of support documentation that was with that. And one of those was the draft environmental assessment. And in that assessment, it included five different alternatives. but all of them were exclusively focused on vessel speed. There was no consideration of technology or any other ways of reducing risk of vessel strikes. And so one thing that could happen is that OIRA looks at this and says, the economic impacts are significant enough that we want to send this back to NOAA for them to consider alternatives that could utilize existing technology or technologies that could be developed. to help with this issue of reducing risk. So that's a pathway that could be beneficial for us, or it could just move forward as written. Again, we don't know exactly how it's been rewritten, but it could just move forward and become final. Katie (41:00.13) So tell me how the building or the assembling of the Whale and Vessel Safety Task Force has played a role in this process. John DePersenaire (41:15.168) Yeah, it's been a really interesting, and I'm so grateful to the members who agreed to sit on that task force, because I think it's unprecedented in the sense that we've seen such a diverse field of experts really sit down and commit to working on this. So the task force is just a, basically it's a think tank, you know? But it has all the key elements, right? So, you know, obviously we're looking at things like detection. We're thinking about how detection information makes it out to the fleet. You know, how that one, you know, how we want that to display on someone's multifunction display. We're thinking about how we can better model. So we're thinking about this in a really holistic way. And we're trying to address all these different sort of puzzle pieces that have to come together. to ultimately get information out to operators. Because that's a huge part of this and something that is just so, it's just missing from the current approach is that if we can get information out to operators, information that's timely and relevant, there is a significant benefit in that. And as you know, as an operator, like, you know, you don't wanna be bombarded with information that's not relevant, right? You know, because the last thing you want is, Katie (42:41.358) Oh god no. John DePersenaire (42:43.076) being, you know, having all these alerts going off, because after three or four, you're like, oh, that was for, you know, an area 100 miles south of me. Like you're going to turn it off or silence it, you know? And so one of the big things that we really have to focus on is getting the most relevant, important information out to operators when they're in an area where they need to get that information. And that's a key element that this task force and what the industry is working on. So as you know, like, Katie (42:47.85) Mm-hmm, you get me. Yeah. John DePersenaire (43:11.056) There is a ton of research institutions out there that have been doing incredible work on North Atlantic right whales and marine mammals in general, like just experts. Awesome, they do such good work. But that information and that work has not much use for us in its present form. There has to be this connection to the marine industry to bring it all together and then to have a positive response. And that's ultimately what we're trying to do. We're trying to give... operators information so they can make decisions about their trips and also how they can make decisions about reducing risk of hitting wells, right? And so that is the real critical element where the task force and our industry plays a role that sort of no one else can. Like we have to be at the table if we want to see this complete solution, so to speak, come together. Katie (43:49.196) Right. Katie (44:04.826) Yes, okay, I love it. So not only has it been, has since the public comment period has been behind closed, I'm sorry. So not only has everything been behind closed doors since the initial public comment period, but this task force has been assembling. And didn't you guys push to have a NOAA representative sit aboard the task force so that they can know what's going on? John DePersenaire (44:31.904) Yeah, no, and it's been a great asset for us and I think for Noah as well. So we meet with that liaison once a month. And you know, I think that's a great It's a great commitment showing that they're willing to engage with us and share information. And one of the things from this workshop that we're really keen on doing is continuing that sense of collaboration that we saw during the workshop. I mean, I think the majority of people went into that really with, you know, this willingness to sit and talk with anyone and really figure out how we can work together on this issue. And so That's something we really want to continue with NOAA moving forward. You know, again, we may have concerns with the rule, but we're in complete agreement that we want to reduce vessel strike risk. So we are in parallel with them on that effort if they're willing to work with us. And everything we've seen so far since the workshop has been great. And we want to continue that type of synergy that we think is really essential for this type of problem. Katie (45:40.758) Well, on behalf of the industry, I think it's absolutely incredible that you guys have not only like just sat back after public comment period, but taken all this initiative to, like you said, take a holistic approach on the issue and to come forth and provide a solution and to fight to make sure that no one knows exactly what's going on and to have a liaison there. I think that's awesome. So the rule right now is in OI-Rez hands. Is that is that correct? John DePersenaire (46:09.764) That's correct. Katie (46:10.672) So you mentioned there's another opportunity for public comment, which is happening right now. But you don't know what's being discussed in the rule or what's being proposed moving forward or what Oryrus is exactly seeing. So what's your strategy going into this public comment period? Because you can't say what you said in the initial one because that's just a waste of time, right? So what's your mindset there? Like how are we looking at that? John DePersenaire (46:39.372) Yeah, so. Our strategy going into this is, again, we don't know what the rule is, but I mean, I think from Viking's, I'm just going to speak just from Viking standpoint, you know, we have, you know, just over 20 different models of boats. All of them are over 35 feet, except for three. So I mean, the impact to us is really, really significant. And even if they were to say, increase that minimum threshold from 35 up to 40, it really doesn't do much. for us. So our argument really has not changed even if say the rule has changed as it's progressed on to O'Rei-Ry. And again, we're just speculating. We don't know exactly what they've done to that rule. But there's really a couple of things that we are going to bring to those meetings and how we're going to try to address this. There still are really significant modeling flaws. So this is something we talked about early on. Katie is that, you know, the way no one looks at vessels and the risk is associated with that vessel. Originally, it was those 35 foot and up all had the same sort of characteristics, right? So you think about displacement and draft depth, you know, they are just vastly different between a Panama X container ship and a 35 foot center console. And so one of the big criticisms is like, you know, if you're going to model risk, I mean, come to us, get the data, we can show you what a 35 foot center console drafts, right? And what it does at 10 knots and actually how that draft actually to step tall, it starts to decrease as you get up on plane. So we can show you all of that. And we don't think that they've taken enough steps to get to that level of specificity that would make sense from a management standpoint. So we still think that they are vastly, vastly. Katie (48:12.715) Open book. John DePersenaire (48:35.936) inflating risk of recreational boats because they haven't, at least as far as I know, they have not come to any of the manufacturers to get those vessel specs, which would be critical to put into that risk encounter model, which is driving a lot of this. So that's something we will continue to point out. The other thing is that we sort of do now have real impacts. So we've had a few orders that have not gone through because of the vessel speed rule. So... no longer is this theoretical in terms of what it could do to an industry like recreational fishing and boating or a boat builder like flaking. We now have demonstrable impacts and it's not just us and our workforce. You know, for that boat in particular that was canceled, you know, there's 28 different suppliers that we go to from engines to stabilization to electronics packages to... know, riggers, rott holders, coolers, fish box appliances, like the list is significant, you know. So again, we can start to demonstrate that their cost benefit analysis, which put this at three, roughly $3,000 per vessel per year, was just vastly underestimated because we now have, you know, we now have one example where we can just say, we can walk through, you know, the spec sheet, the bill sheet for that boat and say like, Katie (49:47.227) Oh my gosh. John DePersenaire (49:59.512) what we had to go back to those people and say, this order is not going through now, we're gonna need to cancel this PO. And so, and also wrapped up in that boat was roughly 13,000 labor hours. So that's a big hit for a workforce that is here to build boats. So that's really what we're going into, but obviously other groups will be going in talking about the safety aspects, talking about the privacy aspects, knowing that AIS, a safety tool. is now being used for enforcement. And that's a huge concern. Talking about just the public's access to the resources, you know, these well-managed fisheries, which we've worked all so hard to get rebuilt and well-managed, and now all of a sudden, we're not going to have access to them for up to seven months out of the year. So those are all key issues that, you know, we are going to be going into this OIRA phase really trying to drive home. And of course, you know, small businesses will be weighing in as well. The ferries, the charterboat guys that, you know, can demonstrate lost trips during these periods of time. All that is really, really critical in this stage. Katie (51:06.914) I want to ask you about the small business and the inter, I don't remember the lingo, but the intergovernment relations or branches. We'll get to that. But first I would like for you to tell me, please tell me a little bit about how they're proposing for AIS to be used for surveillance and why that's an issue. Tell us what AIS is. Start from the beginning. John DePersenaire (51:27.488) Yeah, so that is it. Yeah, so AIS is Automatic Information System. And so the easiest way to think about AIS is almost like air traffic control. So when you pull up like flight aware, you can see the flight number, all the aspects about that plane, what its heading is. And we have something very similar on the marine side. And the rules for vessels that are required to carry AIS generally broken down into two classes. One is class A, those are vessels that are over 65 foot and engaged in commercial activities. So they have both receiving and transmitting AIS. And what that means is that they are sending out a signal that gives it's, you know, the vessel's identification, what its classification is, its heading and its speed, I believe, and also its position. So you can... Katie (52:18.89) Yeah, speed, length, and bear, yeah. John DePersenaire (52:22.028) So, right, so if you pull up something like marine traffic, you can actually see where all those big MERSC ships are, are going and all the tugs and tows are going because that's a really important thing to know. Like if you go out and fish for, you know, giants in the mud hole and spring fog, you really want to know those boats are coming, right? So it's a huge safety tool. Boats that are under 65 feet or non-class A vessels include a lot of like, you know, Vikings and sport fish boats. And they're typically, Katie (52:40.096) Yeah, definitely. John DePersenaire (52:52.044) receive only. So they get the benefit of receiving that AIS signal, but they don't have to transmit their information. And so what's been happening over the past few years is that NOAA enforcement has been going into these data sets of AIS data and they've been retrospectively investigating boats and seeing where they may have exceeded some of the existing, again, remember, going back to 2008, there have been some areas that have been placed since then for both 65 foot and bigger. And what they've done is they've gone back and figured out, just calculated if they exceeded the speed limits. In a lot of cases, it's not even like, you know, it's a 10 knots. Two years. Yeah. Or, and in cases, some cases it's like, you know, not even like, you know, they're going 40 miles an hour in this, you know, 10 knot zone. They're going like 13 knots, like something that Katie (53:34.89) It's not even real time. It's like going back and looking and then... John DePersenaire (53:49.396) And you know, running boats, like depending on the sea, you can be, you can be going between bouncing between eight and 12 a lot of times, right? Even if you're just trying to spend the tide or you're navigating an inlet. And so. Katie (53:50.882) with the current, yeah. Katie (53:55.534) 12. Yeah? Mm-hmm. Katie (54:01.226) especially when you're looking at a ship of that magnitude and size. John DePersenaire (54:04.14) Yeah, and so that's what I think is one of the most concerning parts of the enforcement aspect of this is that they're taking a tool that has been designed for a navigational aid and a significant safety benefit and using it for enforcement. And the last thing we want people to do is to second guess themselves, turn that thing off and be like, it's just not worth the risk because it's not like these fines are like, you know, Katie (54:23.646) Stop using it. Mm-hmm. Nope. No. John DePersenaire (54:31.192) you know, $50 for like an undersized fish. I mean, these are, you know, pretty significant fines, upwards of $7,500 of violation. So it's not like it's insignificant. Katie (54:38.199) Yeah. Katie (54:41.87) Oh my gosh, so this kind of like makes me sick a little bit, but obviously we want people to follow the rules. We don't want cargo ships going 30 knots in a 10 knot zone, you know, for sure. But like in my personal experience, you guys like. the AIS system in the central, in the Pacific, I know this isn't what we're talking about, but I'm just saying in the Pacific there's no shipping lanes. So it's a very, very essential safety tool that both you can see the ship and know where they're heading and what direction and what speed, especially when it's two in the morning and there's no moon. And they can also see where you are and your speed if you're underway or not. And I mean, you have to have AIS. And looking at I don't have a lot of experience in the Northeast, but I do know that there is significant fog conditions and we already touched on the fact that there's like a lot of ship traffic and a lot of boat traffic because these are really big ports. And like John just said, I just have to reiterate this that no, we don't want vessels to be going too fast in these zones. But what we really do not want is for people, for humans to be turning off their AIS system be a like a sea that's pushing you a little bit further because you're trying to get out of a storm, whatever it might be, and turning their AIS off and putting themselves at risk. So yeah, no, there's a that's a that's a big issue. John DePersenaire (56:14.668) Yeah, and so like for the Northeast in particular, you know, like, you know, New York is now considered the busiest port in the U S you know, and so you can imagine all the vessels, you know, coming in and out of that approach. And you're exactly right. I mean, like say you're out fishing and you're hooked up, you know, say you've got a giant on, you know, you, you want to have your AIS on because as those, those big container ships are trucking through and there's no, you know, there may not be any speed restrictions out there. I mean, they'd be going 26 knots. Like you want them to see you. And so that's a really critical thing to keep our fleet safe. And the last thing we want is it to be used for something it wasn't intended to. And then people start to second guess that because they're concerned about enforcement or even just privacy issues. I mean, we're not considered a highly regulatory, highly regulated activity. And for some applications like the commercial shipping sector, yeah. I mean, that makes sense for them to be. Katie (57:00.982) Yeah. John DePersenaire (57:13.136) tracked and monitored. And I think it makes sense to use I.S. in that application for them. But like for the private citizen, it really doesn't. Like I think a lot of people will be upset if, you know, we just found out that like, say the FBI was tracking everyone's cell phone position. Like it's just, you know, we do have fourth amendment rights. Like you can't just have, you know, warrantless search, you know, and monitoring. Right. And so that's, this really comes into that element. You know, do our federal enforcement Katie (57:32.432) It's very 1984, big brother. John DePersenaire (57:41.768) agency is allowed to have access to that data without a warrant. I mean, that's a real serious privacy question that has to be answered, to be honest. Katie (57:50.23) Yeah. and especially with you guys working on potential technological advances and uses for tech to help mitigate this situation. Just the fact that you guys are working hard to give a different solution, I think is exceptional. Now, already we know how it worked with proposing the rule. We know you guys built a task force and are continuing to try and find a better solution, continuing to be involved in the government, even though it's all behind closed doors. And you told me the other day, I believe, that there is, you got involved a little bit with the small business office in the U.S. Can you tell me, I don't remember the lingo, I'm sorry, but can you tell me how that is a way to help benefit the situation as a whole despite the fact that you guys don't really have a say in what's going on the regulatory side? John DePersenaire (58:44.512) Yeah, so we had a roundtable discussion with the US Small Business Administration back in September of 2022. And it's really an interesting branch of the federal government. It's relatively small. But they have this one office, it's the advocate. And really what their charge is, is to make sure that small businesses in the country are not, you know, inordinately impacted by federal regulations, right? Or at least that the impacts are known if they move forward with a decision on that. And so during that round table discussion, there was representatives from our sector, the recreational fishing and boating sector, the ports, pilots, fast ferries, even seaplanes. I think there was a representative for the seaplanes there. So as you can imagine, it was everyone that had some stake or had some activity on the water that was important to them. And really what that ended up producing was a really strong letter from the Small Business Administration that was submitted to the federal record that pointed out that the industry was demonstrating that there were things that could have been considered in terms of reducing risk through technology. but they weren't considered in the rule. And so that was a really powerful statement. And so as this rule now goes on to OIRA and reflecting back upon those two pathways that happened in parallel there, that interagency review is not open to the public, but the Small Business Administration is involved with that interagency review. So... That is something where we have been sort of going back to them and providing them updated impacts. And so we've had some charter boat operators submit their statement, basically saying, I do X number of trips in this period of time. I sail from this port. This is what I charge for a trip. I'm a small business. I have four employees. I have two employees, whatever it is. And that's a real impact that the Small Business Administration, they can go back and John DePersenaire (01:00:58.42) submit that during the interagency review. So I think those are going to be really critical messages. And again, like the most important thing, I think, in this stage is bringing new information. The one thing that was hard about that public comment period, again, it was, it's hard to believe they're going to do it in 30 days, but even with 60 days, it was really hard to even get a lot of the economic impact information there, you know, and it just took more time for us to develop that and talk to the right people and get that all into place. So This is a good opportunity for us to bring that new information to the table because I think it's really compelling and it's really critical that they know about these impacts before they make a decision on this rule. Katie (01:01:41.49) Yeah, well said. Perfect. I love it. Besides the task force and the US Small Business Administration... You're gonna have to forgive me on that. What other... Have you guys been doing anything else in all your time you have? Or... I'm just kidding. John DePersenaire (01:01:53.477) I'm so happy to say it. John DePersenaire (01:01:59.556) Well, yeah, I mean, so, you know, listen, members of Congress, I mean, they're always concerned about, you know, constituents and impacts to, you know, their, their states and their districts that they represent. So this is a time where, yeah, if you ever thought about, if you thought more about how this would impact you, your business, your, maybe if it's even not a business, how it impacts your livelihood and your recreation, because that's a important thing, you know, reaching out to your member of Congress, letting them know, that member of Congress can then relay that message also through the interagency review. So they're allowed to engage in that as well. So all these sort of things are important. And again, the message is not that the hell with the North Atlantic right whale, you know, let it just run its course. What we're saying is that let's figure out how to come up with a really reasonable that acknowledges the needs of the industry, but also acknowledges that we have to do something for North Atlantic right wells. And we think there's that balance that can be struck there. And listen, we've, again, you've pointed out that task force several times. I mean, it's not just there on paper. We meet, we talk about this, we're doing pilot projects. The electronics folks are hard at work trying to figure out how this, get this all integrated onto a screen. So work is being done. It's not like we're just. pushing this off and saying, you know, we just want to go fast. You know, we are trying to come up with alternatives here that make a lot of sense. And so that's really what our message is at this final stage is all about. You know, we are working towards something that's going to have benefits for both the industry and. Katie (01:03:42.162) 100%. And not only that, but don't we feel like having a speed reduction zone for vessels 35 to 65 foot doesn't actually make a big difference on the right whales? John DePersenaire (01:03:58.124) Yeah, I mean, that's something that, yeah, we're not exactly sure it's going to have much benefit. This is one of the, you know, I talked about this earlier, but this is, again, it's all about reducing risk. And again, it's just a little bit of a foreign approach because, again, thinking back to fisheries, you know, we're typically given a status report of a stock, right? Say we're talking about bluefin tuna, for example. know, and say, all right, this is the stock status. It seems like we have to reduce fishing mortality by 25%. This is what that 25% reduction is going to do to our overall domestic quota. This is how we're going to implement regulations to achieve that 25% reduction in quota. This is a little different in the sense that they say we need to reduce risk of vessel strikes. We don't disagree with that, but we're not giving a clear objective. And so from an incremental progress standpoint, how do you even know if you're making progress. That's a real tricky thing. And so what was so interesting as we were trying to dive into the details to figure out a little bit more about this so we could help with our work and product development and all that sort of stuff, seeing if we're coming up with ideas that even had adequate effectiveness rates, what we found was that, what was so interesting is that in response to the 2008 Vessel Speed Rule, there was a reduction of vessel strikes. but there was actually no, they were not able to correlate that to the rule. So it's a really interesting modeling exercise and one that doesn't quite make sense. It seems like we need to figure out what was driving. Maybe it was a Vessel Speed, because I mean, I know when I think about a big shipping container, I mean, if that thing's going 15 knots or 10 knots and it hits a whale, I mean, I don't think the outlook is much different, to be honest. So... It just makes you really want to dive into the details and it really wants you to make sure that we're looking at this from a really comprehensive standpoint. Like we don't wanna just assume that risk from a 35 foot center console boat is detrimental to the stock. It may be and it may have a risk, but is that significant enough to take such significant action? Or are there other ways that we can go about? John DePersenaire (01:06:20.204) mitigatin

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Season 2, Episode 12 ”Bermuda's Gunpowder”

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TNT Radio

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 21, 2023 54:58

GUEST 1 OVERVIEW: Basil Valentine is a philosopher, poet, broadcaster, writer, musician, horse racing aficionado and Leeds United supporter. He is a regular contributor to SUNDAY WIRE WITH PATRICK HENNINGSEN, and a prolific X (Twitter) poster. https://21stcenturywire.com/sundaywire/ https://twitter.com/says_basil GUEST 2 OVERVIEW: Ryan Dawson is a Cape Hatteras native from the town of Buxton, North Carolina. He is a graduate from the College of William & Mary. Currently living In Korea, Mr. Dawson is the author of Welcome to the USSA and a co-author of Why Peace. Mr. Dawson has worked as a geopolitical analyst and political radio host for the former FBI translator, Sibel Edmonds, of Boiling Frogs Post. He's made a variety of political documentaries dealing with a wide range of subjects such as the second Iraq War, the September 11th terrorist attacks, the anthrax affair, covert operations of the CIA, and the JFK assassination. Mr. Dawson's work has been featured on a variety of television news networks such as Russia Today and MSNBC, as well as on political satire comedy shows like the Daily Show with Jon Stewart. He is regularly interviewed on a number of political radio shows and websites. He currently runs the ANC Report, an independent media outlet with a focus on economic and political news.

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Light Hearted ep 252 – Alysa Hardin-Lapp and John Havel: Cape Hatteras, NC

Light Hearted

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 19, 2023 58:32

Cape Hatteras Lighthouse, North Carolina. Photo by Jeremy D'Entremont. Alisa Hardin-Lapp andi "Light Hearted" host Jeremy D'Entremont. Photo by John Havel. Cape Hatteras Lighthouse on North Carolina's Outer Banks is one of the most visited lighthouses in the world. Offshore from Cape Hatteras is a dangerous twelve-mile long sandbar called Diamond Shoals. Countless shipwrecks there led to the nickname “Graveyard of the Atlantic.” A lighthouse was first authorized at Cape Hatteras in 1794, and the station began service in 1803. The lighthouse that stands today began service on December 16, 1870. It got its famous black and white spiral daymark three years later, making it easier to tell apart from other area lighthouses. At 198 feet, it's the tallest lighthouse in the United States and the second tallest brick lighthouse in the world. Cape Hatteras Light Station was transferred to the National Park Service in 1937. The National Park Service continues to manage the lighthouse and keepers' quarters, as well as conducting public tours. The Outer Banks Lighthouse Society also actively supports all North Carolina Lighthouses. A major restoration of Cape Hatteras Lighthouse will soon be underway. John Havel There are two people in today's interview. Alisa Hardin-Lapp is the supervisory park ranger for the Hatteras Island District, and John Havel is a board member of the Outer Banks Lighthouse Society who has done many years of research on the history of Cape Hatteras light station.

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National Parks Traveler Podcast | Cape Hatteras Shorebirds and Sea Turtles

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Play Episode Listen Later Nov 19, 2023 39:08

Throughout history the barrier islands that today are home to Cape Hatteras National Seashore have been attractive to wildlife. A variety of sea turtle species come ashore to lay their nests, and a variety of shorebirds settle there, too, to lay their eggs. But the thing with wildlife nesting on the beaches of Cape Hatteras is that one great season can be followed by a poor one. Influencing the outcome can be human disturbances, storms, and predation. How was 2023 for piping plovers, a threatened species, at Cape Hatteras, and what about the sea turtles? To get the answers to those questions we've invited Meaghan Johnson, the seashore's Chief of Resource Management and Science to join us.

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Time running out to avoid a government shutdown; authors sue ChatGPT-maker OpenAI; Alex Murdaugh pleads guilty to financial crimes

Hot Off The Wire

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 21, 2023 13:23

On the version of Hot off the Wire posted Sept. 22 at 6:42 a.m. CT: WASHINGTON (AP) — With the collapse of House Speaker Kevin McCarthy's latest plan to avert a federal shutdown, lawmakers have left town with no endgame in sight. The White House will tell federal agencies on Friday to prepare for a shutdown, according to an official with the Office of Management and Budget who insisted on anonymity to discuss the upcoming instructions. That's standard seven days out from a federal disruption. A core group of Republicans refused to vote with the speaker, whose job is on the line. Afterward, McCarthy acknowledged his frustration, saying, “This is a whole new concept of individuals who just want to burn the whole place down.” MIAMI (AP) — The National Hurricane Center says a storm off the eastern U.S. will deliver tropical storm conditions to the coast of North Carolina. The storm was forecast to make landfall in North Carolina on Friday. The center reports the storm, currently designated Potential Tropical Cyclone Sixteen, is located located about 330 miles southeast of Charleston, South Carolina, and about 325 miles south Cape Hatteras, North Carolina. It's moving north around 14 mph with top sustained winds of 50 mph. Storm surges between 3 and 5 feet are forecast for parts of North Carolina with localized rainfall up to 7 inches in some places. TORONTO (AP) — Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy is to speak before the Canadian Parliament on Friday as part of his campaign to shore up support from Western allies for Ukraine's war against the Russian invasion. Zelenskyy flew into Canada's capital late Thursday after meetings with U.S. President Joe Biden and lawmakers in Washington where he faced questions about the flow of American dollars has helped keep his troops in the fight against Russian forces. Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau greeted Zelenskyy at Ottawa's airport and will also speak to Parliament on Friday. It is Zelenskyy's first visit to Canada since Russia invaded Ukraine in February 2022. ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. (AP) — Police in Albuquerque say two people have been arrested in connection with a drive-by shooting outside a baseball stadium that killed an 11-year-old boy and prompted New Mexico's governor to issue a controversial gun ban. Police say the two men were arrested Thursday over the Sept. 6 shooting after an Albuquerque Isotopes game. Froylan Villegas was killed and his cousin, Tatiana Villegas, was left partially paralyzed. On Thursday, Albuquerque's police chief said the two men had argued with people during the ball game and mistakenly opened fire on the truck carrying the boy and his family as it was leaving the parking lot because it closely resembled the truck of the intended targets. MIDDLETOWN, N.Y. (AP) — A charter bus carrying high school students to a band camp careened off a New York highway and tumbled down an embankment, killing two adults and seriously injuring several others. Gov. Kathy Hochul said a front-tire failure could have contributed to the early Thursday afternoon accident on Interstate 84 in the town of Wawayanda, about 45 miles northwest of New York City. The two adults who died were 77-year-old Beatrice Ferrari of Farmingdale and 43-year-old Gina Pellettiere of Massapequa. Five of the 44 passengers on board were critically injured. according to state police. UNITED NATIONS (AP) — It's one of the United Nations' more obscure bodies, with no space to call its own within the riverside headquarters. And there is scant insight into how it decides a question of far-reaching impact: Who gets let through the door? With an anodyne name, the U.N. Credentials Committee has long gone unnoticed; it doesn't even appear on the U.N.'s own organizational chart of its many councils, agencies and departments. But when it comes to countries riven by political divisions or coups, the nine-member body is the gatekeeper to the world's stage at the U.N. General Assembly's annual meeting. Leaders of factions within divided nations know that the committee's decision stands to withhold or bestow some much-desired legitimacy. The 49ers rough up the Giants, Milwaukee and Philadelphia get closer to postseason berths, the Rays pad their postseason resume, and other results in baseball's penultimate Thursday of the regular season. On the version of Hot off the Wire posted Sept. 21 at 4 p.m. CT: WASHINGTON (AP) — House Speaker Kevin McCarthy's latest plan to prevent a looming federal shutdown by appeasing his hard-right flank quickly collapsed Thursday. It's a crushing defeat that makes a disruption in government services almost certain. A government closure is increasingly likely as time runs out for Congress to act. WASHINGTON (AP) — Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy is delivering an upbeat message to U.S. lawmakers in a whirlwind visit to Washington. Zelenskyy briefed lawmakers on the state of the war Thursday and told them Ukrainians “are winning." Zelenskyy was facing Republicans who are now questioning the flow of American dollars that for 19 months has helped keep his troops in the fight against Russian forces. Zelenskyy will also meet with President Joe Biden at the White House. It's Zelenskyy's second visit to Washington since Russia invaded and comes as Biden's request to Congress for another $24 billion for Ukraine is hanging in the balance. NEW YORK (AP) — Rupert Murdoch is stepping down as leader of both Fox's parent company and his News Corp. media holdings. Fox says he will become chairman emeritus of both corporations. His son, Lachlan, will control both companies. The 92-year-old Australian media magnate's creation of Fox News made him a force in American politics. He built his empire from a single newspaper in Australia. He moved to England, then the United States with the invention of Fox News and the purchases of both the New York Post and The Wall Street Journal. Forbes estimated the Murdoch family's net worth at roughly $19 billion in 2020. Fox News Channel has profoundly influenced television and the nation's politics since its start in 1996, making Murdoch a hero to some and pariah to others. JACKSON, Miss. (AP) — Mississippi's state auditor says numerous social science and humanities degree programs are “indoctrination factories.” Auditor Shad White argues in a new report the state should defund several college majors and invest in subjects that match the state's workforce needs. He proposed tying public investment to workforce needs instead of providing funds without regard for the degree programs offered. In numerous statements on social media leading up to the report's publication, White said there should be no taxpayer funding for “useless degrees” in “garbage fields.” White statements and his report arrive as education, from K-12 to the university level, remains at the center of America's culture wars. NEW YORK (AP) — John Grisham, Jodi Picoult and George R.R. Martin are among 17 authors suing OpenAI for “systematic theft on a mass scale.” Their suit was filed Tuesday in New York and is the latest in a wave of legal action by writers concerned that AI programs are using their copyrighted works without permission. The suit was organized by the Authors Guild, and also includes David Baldacci, Sylvia Day, Jonathan Franzen and Elin Hilderbrand among others. A handful of similar suits were recently filed in California. OpenAI did not immediately respond to a request for comment. Silicon Valley tech giant Cisco is buying cybersecurity firm Splunk in a $28 billion deal as it looks to keep up with potential security threats that could be brought about by the increasing use of artificial intelligence. Cisco will pay $157 per Splunk Inc. share. CHARLESTON, S.C. (AP) — Convicted murderer Alex Murdaugh has pleaded guilty in federal court to financial crimes. Thursday's court appearance is the first time the disbarred attorney has admitted responsibility for a crime before a judge. Murdaugh is serving life in prison without parole for killing his wife and son, but he adamantly denied shooting them from the witness stand at his double murder trial. In federal court, Murdaugh pleaded guilty to 22 counts of financial fraud and money laundering. He will be sentenced at a later date. The federal guilty plea likely locks in years if not decades in prison, even if the double murder conviction is overturned. CHARLESTON, S.C. (AP) — Convicted murderer Alex Murdaugh has pleaded guilty in federal court to financial crimes. Thursday's court appearance is the first time the disbarred attorney has admitted responsibility for a crime before a judge. Murdaugh is serving life in prison without parole for killing his wife and son, but he adamantly denied shooting them from the witness stand at his double murder trial. In federal court, Murdaugh pleaded guilty to 22 counts of financial fraud and money laundering. He will be sentenced at a later date. The federal guilty plea likely locks in years if not decades in prison, even if the double murder conviction is overturned. A coalition of 25 governors and the Biden administration are set to announce a pledge Thursday morning to quadruple the number of heat pumps in U.S. homes by 2030. Heat pumps are important because they use little electricity, yet are able to heat and cool buildings. Since they often replace oil or gas furnaces that add greenhouse gases to the air, they can meaningfully address climate change. The pledge on heat pumps is a collection of state initiatives to work toward the goal of ramping down emissions to zero by 2050. PARIS (AP) — King Charles III has made an emotional stop in front of Paris' fire-damaged Notre Dame cathedral on the second day of his state visit to France. He also met with young athletes in a working-class, multicultural suburb of the capital. Earlier, Charles made an address to French lawmakers at the Senate, praising France and the United Kingdom's “indispensable relationship” and its capacity to meet the world's challenges, including the war in Ukraine and climate change. Thursday's busy schedule came a day after he was greeted by French President Emmanuel Macron during a ceremony at Paris' Arc de Triomphe and attended a state dinner at the Palace of Versailles. MINNEAPOLIS (AP) — Bob Ross was known for his unpretentious approach to painting on his long-running show, “The Joy of Painting,” but now the painting he completed on his first episode in 1983 is for sale for nearly $10 million. Minneapolis gallery owner Ryan Nelson calls the painting, “A Walk in the Woods,” the “rookie card” for Ross. Nelson bought the painting last year and then priced it at $9.85 million. Ross' paintings are hard to get and are expensive, but none has sold for nearly that much. Nelson says he's in no hurry to sell and would like to display the painting so that lots of people get to see Ross' work and understand his efforts to encourage regular people to paint. —The Associated Press About this program Host Terry Lipshetz is a senior producer for Lee Enterprises. Besides producing the daily Hot off the Wire news podcast, Terry conducts periodic interviews for this Behind the Headlines program, co-hosts the Streamed & Screened movies and television program and is the producer of Across the Sky, a podcast dedicated to weather and climate. Lee Enterprises produces many national, regional and sports podcasts. Learn more here.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

National Parks Traveler Podcast | South Florida Wildlands Association

Pass the Secret Sauce by Matt Shields

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 6, 2023 53:27

Majestic wildlife abounds across the National Park System. You can see wolves, grizzlies and bison in Yellowstone, California condors at Pinnacles and Grand Canyon, moose in Voyageurs, and sea turtles at Cape Hatteras and Padre Island, and elephant seals at Point Reyes National Seashore, just to name some of the possibilities. Another charismatic species in the park system, but one you're not likely to see, are panthers. Also known as mountain lions, or cougars, depending on the region of the country. These are big stealthy cats, most often on the move after dark, which is why you're not likely to spot one. South Florida is best known as home for the Florida panther. Another reason you might not spot one of these cats is because there are so few of them. Conservationists at the South Florida Wildlands Association fear the population of the iconic Florida Panther may have dwindled to as few as 100 cats. They don't know for sure, though, because the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service has not released a species status assessment and population count since 2009. And without current information, the fight for the panther's existence and efforts to curtail development that threatens it, are more challenging than ever. In this week's podcast, the Traveler's Lynn Riddick speaks with the executive director of that organization to hear about their latest efforts to address the assaults on the panther's habitat and their approach in protecting this incredible, endangered creature.

Episode 215: From Van to Empire: Unleashing the Power of Possibility

Play Episode Listen Later May 31, 2023 34:35

Have you ever wondered what it takes to turn your life around completely? In this extraordinary episode, our host, Matt Shields, takes you on a riveting journey from the confines of a cargo van to the heights of a real estate empire spanning hundreds of apartments across the country. Prepare to be inspired as Matt fearlessly shares his personal story, unraveling the transformative moments that propelled him beyond the limitations of his circumstances. Through tales of resilience, determination, and unwavering belief in the power of possibility, Matt's incredible journey will challenge you to ask yourself: What's holding you back? Join us as we delve deep into the triumphs, setbacks, and pivotal decisions that defined Matt's path to success. Discover the secrets behind his rise from living on wheels to becoming a prominent figure in the real estate industry. This gripping episode will ignite your own dreams and leave you with a newfound belief in the infinite potential within you. Don't miss out on this thought-provoking episode that will empower you to break free from the shackles of doubt and embrace the boundless opportunities that await. It's time to unleash your own potential and embark on the path to greatness. The power to transform your life is within your reach - tune in now and let Matt's remarkable journey be the catalyst for your own incredible story. Today on Invest in Square Feet, we have a special episode. We've received many comments, wanting to know more about my background and how I got to where I am today. So today I have Troy, who is a recent guest on the Invest in Square Feet Podcast, interview me about some of my upbringings and the way that I look at certain situations. We all have events that shape and mold our responses and our reactions to things, and I get pretty deep into some of the personal experiences that I've gone through, some of the hardships that I've gone through in my life. My goal with all of this is to be more open and more transparent with all of our listeners so that you guys can know me a little bit better and understand where I might be coming from, from specific events or happenings that I might have gone through in my own life. On Invest in Square Feet, we unlock the secrets of wealthy entrepreneurship. I'm Matt Shields and my mission is to help business owners protect and grow their business so that they can invest. Passively into multi-family real estate. So today's gonna be a little bit different as the intro had described before. I'm going to be interviewed today and tell a little bit about my story and the reason why I wanted to do this. So that everyone can understand that we all go through setbacks and struggles. I reveal some of the things that I've gone through, some of the low points in my life to where I am today, how I sprung back from those situations, and literally today I own multimillion dollars worth of real estate. I hope this inspires you and I hope that it connects you a little bit more with my story. And what I've been able to accomplish, and I look forward to having you reach out, and I'd love to be able to help you take your business to the next level so that you can also do the same thing, and also invest in multi-million dollars worth of real estate. I love, the mindset of referring to these ebbs and flows of life, as, seasons right? So many people get so bogged down into my life is falling apart. Things aren't going well. And, that's not the way that life is always going to be. You know, you're going through a season, maybe it lasts six months, four months, a year, you know, things will get better and you have to recognize that it's a learning opportunity and it's a learning opportunity to be able to really spring yourself forward because now you know what not to do, right? You've already, you've already made it to that part, part where you feel like you failed or what have you. So, um, we all go through it and you just have to, to have the perseverance to keep on, keep on going. It gives me chills because, you know, Matt, when you think about it, when people think, you know, is it, why is everything getting worse and or why is this happening to me, the good news is, is if you pay attention and get recalibrated, you can actually realize that there is a winter coming up. There's gonna be a time where we can sit back a little bit. We don't have to get out there and cut that grass right away, if you will, and you know, we're gonna ha we're gonna have a little bit of snow and, and it's some time to recalibrate and then get ready to spring back out. Um, like what you call it, seasons. I like that. Tell me a little bit about you today, Matt, describe yourself today. If you were to look at yourself in, in maybe three areas, if we could. I'd like to talk about. Um, I'd like to talk about your relationships. Um, I'd like to talk about, about your wealth. I'd also like to talk about health, um, maybe mentally and physically and taking a look where we are today, but then also, you know, I'd like to then after go back and talk about was it always like that and, you know, and how did we get up to this point, kind of working in reverse I have a, a number of different companies and a number of different focuses. I have a technology company and we build custom software, custom apps for many businesses. , one business has sold more than, uh, a hundred million dollars using, uh, our apps, uh, so that they're on the, the sales side of things. So it. We have a great understanding of what drives people and what, where the, where the blockers are, where the issues are that. A lot of people may not necessarily see, right? So technology company, um, is doing well and a number of years, probably about five years ago or so, I started getting involved in large multi-family real estate. We've got about 780, uh, units, uh, under management right now. Uh, and to a company, those, those assets. We also have our own property management company and our own construction company to be able to, to feed and work off of one another. Um, and then I also have a podcast. That is in the top 3% of all podcasts, uh, out there. So that's, that's in a nutshell, that's what I'm doing today. It's a great journey and, and I'm learning every day as well. And I think that that's, that's one of the keys, like we said before, there's always seasons, there's always things that are not going to go the way that you had planned. But if you have this perspective where you are always open to earn, uh, to, to learning and to bettering yourself and, and approaching things from a positive perspective, no matter how bad they may seem, um, It's gonna serve you well, right? And again, we're all gonna go through things. We're all gonna lose things. We're all going to have the days that aren't going to go the way that we planned. But at the end of the day, you know, keeping that positive perspective is really key for what, what I found. Um, and again, i, I app approach that with pretty well everything in my life. Um, relationships, I always look at the positive side of things. Uh, I choose. Not to have assholes in my life. Like if I don't get along with you, then you know, I'm, I don't keep banging my head against the wall trying to, you know, make things work. I prefer to have positive people and people that are, um, you know, out there doing things that motivate them and drive them. So that's the type of people that I like to surround myself with because then that, that just feeds my energy and that motivates me as well. I wanna do better. I want to be able to keep up with them or beat them or whatever it is, right? So, so that's how I approach. Pretty well ev every relationship, um, you know, that I, that I have. Um, and then from the, the fitness side of things, again, always learning. Uh, but I've, I, I feel like I've pretty well always been in, you know, pretty good shape. Um, I, I'm, I'm pretty active ski play volleyball a lot. Um, you know, we used to run a lot more when my knees were a little bit better, but, uh, yeah, I feel like health has kind of always been one of those things that I've, I've been pretty lucky with, I guess you can say. Uh, and, and interestingly enough, one thing on the health side of things, I don't go to the doctor at all. I, I don't take aspirin. I don't take medication. Um, I believe in healing myself naturally and. Um, you know, with the foods that I eat and, and, you know, I don't take cough medicine. I don't do any of that stuff. So, um, that's the way that I've pretty well always been. And I, and at the same time, I don't eat any type of fast food or anything, don't drink pop. Um, it's probably been 25 years since I've had a sip of any type of pop. So, um, again, it's just, just my lifestyle. It's the way that I have chosen to live so, It did. It's, uh, it, I I would believe that, um, having those areas balanced like that today would be a dream come true. Would I, would I say that that would be an accurate statement? It's interesting that you say that and. I don't, I'm not one to brag at all. To me, I feel like I haven't even started yet. I, I feel like the things I've done are normal. Um, And yet other people tell me all the time, like, oh my God, I can't believe that you did that. How did you do that? That's, that's incredible. That's amazing. But to me it's just, it's just, it's life. Right? So I, I think the goal with all of this is be is, is to bring other people into this way of thinking where. You know, again, you're gonna have your ups and downs. Don't let it, don't let it destroy your life. And I've, I've gone through that situation as well in my own life. Everything hasn't been, you know, peaches and roses this entire time. Right. I've, I've had my share of struggles, which we can get into that in a few minutes as well. Um, but it, it showed me when, you know, when I was at rock bottom. Yeah, it's, life isn't that bad, right? Like, this isn't anything to like, oh my God, I can't, I can never, I can never do this. I don't wanna do that again. But I've learned from it, but I lived through it and everyone is so afraid of loss and so afraid of what everyone is gonna think about me. And I have to put on this, this persona of, you know, nothing is wrong and I'm, uh, you know, I'm an expert on, on everything. Right? Um, Once you lose all of that, you realize that it really isn't that bad, you know, to, to lose things. And it's, it's, it would be worse if you have something in your life that you want to do and you never do it. That to me is, you know, is the true failure. That's the true loss that you never, you never had the ability or the the drive to actually accomplish it. So, you know, if you. If you go through things and you fail, at least you tried, right? And you've learned from that. And then use those learnings to be able to try something else or try it differently. And that's what I feel like this whole thing is all about. That's what I want to be able to get, you know, through to people to help them through those issues. Help them through those blockers. Get out and do whatever the thing is that you're, you've been wanting to do. Um, don't worry about the failure. You're going to fail. It's part of life. Expect it and learn from it and then, you know, get up and do it differently. Do it better the next time. I love that. Thank you. Matt. If we looked back at, you know, le let's, let's go back quite a ways. Let's go back into when you were, I'm gonna call you the inspiring entrepreneur, a time when, if you could describe to us, You know, what was it like to, you know, get your first business license and, you know, what was your thoughts, what were you gonna accomplish? Not looking at maybe so much as where we are today, but, you know, you were a young man, an electrician, I believe if, if I remember right. And, and, uh, tell us a little bit about that first business. What did it feel like to, to be a part of that, um, time of your life? I'll even bring it back a little bit further than that. Growing up, my, my dad was an entrepreneur, right? Uh, he had this line of country craft type decorations that he would make in our house. So he had all kinds of tools and he'd, you know, Woodworking and all of that. And they had some pretty decent accounts, like JC Penney's was one of their accounts that they had. And as a kid, I can remember going to the local JC Penney's and, and they would set up my dad and my mom would set up the displays with all their products in JC Penney's. And that's, that's kind of what I thought life was like. Like that was not. Not a big deal to me. Now I look at, look back on and I'm like, that really was something different. So growing up I always had this idea of, you know, doing things to make money. I remember I, I would, you know, buy antiques and, you know, kind of fix them a little bit. I remember there was a sewing machine, like one of the pedal sewing machines that. Was broken and, and I, I figured out how to fix the pedal thing and then resold it and, you know, made some money. So I was always doing those types of things. But, uh, so out of, out of high school, I didn't go to college, but I joined an electoral contracting company. Um, I. Which interestingly enough, the reason why I joined an electrical contracting company was because I wanted to buy houses and fix them up and sell them at the time, and electrical was sort of the area that I didn't really know all that terribly much about. So, uh, when I was out of high school, I joined the electrical contracting company, which like was about a five year program or so, and as soon as I had enough hours in the industry and I passed the electrical or the, the apprenticeship program, I took the state license and got my state certification and started my own electro contracting company. So I was. 22, something like that, 22, 23 maybe. Um, at the time, and that was the last time that I ever had a, you know, a true W2 type position. Um, you know, I haven't worked for another boss since then. Um, and again, people look at that and they're like, what? You know, you were so old and or so young and you acted so, so old with. You know, the decisions that you were making, right? That's the way that I always have been. I've always, I've always gone out and wanted to be able to better myself. Um, I can, I can remember as a teenager, I was reading all of the, you know, the Rich Dad, poor Dads, and, you know, all of those types of books that were exposed at the time to better yourself. That was, that was who I was. I always wanted to, again, better myself, make, uh, Make a living doing the things that I felt that, that were worth doing. That. I love that. And Matt, it sounds like to me that you're somebody who maybe doesn't live with inspiration, but with ownership of the type of life that you want. You don't grow to it. You, you just simply live it. That's something that I've always believed in. Um, I also will say that I've always had the, , the make it happen type mentality, right? I can remember being very, very young, , I started putting roofs on houses when I was 11 years old. Uh, I, I had, uh, I guess he was an uncle who was in the building trades and. 13, 14, 15. I was the one who was hauling everything back and forth on the job sites. And they're like, you know, people don't work like this. People don't, you know, I can't even tell you the last time that I had, uh, especially a younger person, do as much work as what you do. And that's just the way that I've always been. I, I, I get to work and I make things happen. And I feel like when you have that type of mindset to just go after it and, and get whatever it is done. You're going to be successful. And I still live my life, even on small things. Like, you know, I get up at six o'clock every morning, no alarm or anything, you know, I'm watering the plants, I'm cleaning the house. You know, I, I don't, I don't sit around, I don't lay in bed and, you know, think about getting up or I don't grab the phone and start. Scrolling through things, you know, I get up and, you know, start, start producing, start learning, start whatever it is that I'm doing. That's, that's always been my personality. So, Matt, let's take a look for the, the entrepreneur whether they're in, in trades or they are in, um, you know, in medical profession, real estate. You know, what ha, what have you. There's an entrepreneur, um, everywhere that is, is listening to us and saying, um, you know, Yeah, you know, I've had a dream. I've wanted to do things, but I'm also scared of failure and what does that really feel like and look like? And I think a lot of people are scared to talk about the failures. They, they look at it as a place of, uh, you know, either that, you know, a lot of pain, um, you know, or a place they grew from, but, When I listen to you talk, and in, in the past you've talked about, you know, having some bumps as part of the journey that was actually quite enjoyable and allowed you to go through a different season and, and shift and pivot. And instead of allowing it to seem like, uh, the, the dissolution of, or, you know, or sort of the, I guess, the, uh, The teardown of your, your life or your business. You looked at it as a, as, as a way of just adapting and, and keep moving on cuz you had the big picture in mind. Could you tell me a little bit about, you know, what, what does failure, um, or the, what people would perceive as a failure for you? When I was 16, my father, my father passed away. He actually drowned in Cape Hatteras. So obviously this was a complete shock to the family. And at the time, prior to that, I was, I was very, very quiet, very shy, very reserved, always worried what people thought about me. And that really brought me out of my shell, right? I, I realized how short life was and living that way, you know, under putting so much stress on myself because of what I was perceiving everyone else to think of me. Um, I. Was not serving me well at all. So I was, you know, 17 and realized, you know what, when I, when I express myself and when I show people my thoughts and ex tell people the what I'm thinking, everyone started to gravitate toward me and I started to really enjoy life, right? So I look back on that situation and. I S I I, I would do anything to have my dad back, but I can absolutely say that that was one of the first dark times in my life that I realized. You know, let's look at this from the positive. And that's what I, that's what I take away from it now, that that event really brought me out of that, out of my shell, right? So we had talked about the, you know, the next couple years I started my own electoral contracting company, and that was doing well. Um, and one of the goals that my dad and I always had was to buy houses and fix them up. Rent them out, you know, sell them, kind of getting, getting into the real estate side of things. So when I started the electoral contracting company, I started to also buy the houses and, and work on that. And it worked really, really well because when the electoral contracting business was slow, I was able to send the, the guys, the team to the houses and, and we would work on the houses then. So as a great filler of projects, um, until 2008 happened, and this, this was in the Cleveland market and. In 2008, obviously there was a lot of, lot of turmoil in the, in the markets. Very much like what we're going through right now. And unfortunately I had a number of companies that owed me money on the El electrical contracting side of things, who went out of business, which then I was responsible for, you know, making all of those, all of those payments, which ended up putting my contracting company out of business as well. So at one point, You know, I had this, I had this decision of my mom lives in the area so I could go live, you know, on my mom's couch. Uh, or I could embrace this and, you know, Explore what the quote unquote rock bottom looks like. So I chose the rock bottom side of things and I had one of the, the cargo vans from the electoral contracting company that I put a cot in the back of of it and I went to Walmart or wherever and got the best sleeping bag that I could get, and I would spend the nights in hotel parking lots in the back of the van sleeping on this cot. And, you know, the, the thought process was that, If I go to a hotel parking lot, there's always all kinds of, um, you know, cars from all over the place there. So I wouldn't be bothered all night long or get towed or whatever. And then, uh, I, I had a gym membership, so six o'clock in the morning I'd wake up and go to the gym and do my workout and, uh, take a shower and then go on about my day, right? And throughout that entire process, I realized that I was working extremely hard. To buy things that I thought that I needed to, to have in order for other people to think that I was successful. So I, I, I, again, I learned from that. Rock bottom time that you don't need to do all of that. You don't need all of the fancy things. Like that's, that's just driving more, more use and more stress and you know, it's just a perpetual motion. The more you get, the more you need to make, the more you need to keep up with all this stuff. And the bigger house you have, the more grass you have to cut. All of that stuff. Just starts to hinder you after a while. So, um, so I, I, I got rid of all this stuff. I lost a lot of stuff and I was so much lighter and so much happier after that. And again, I realized that I went through this thing that everyone is afraid of going through. And I came out on the other side unscathed. Right? It's, it's not that big of a deal when you go through and you lose everything. Um, so since then, I, I pivoted the, the electoral contracting company into the technology company, um, which sounds like a large leap, but we had started doing energy management in 2005. Uh, so we were writing software and, and controlling building systems, H V A C systems, lighting systems, you know, before anyone was really doing that. So we had a little bit of, a little bit of background in software de development. So that's, that's where I took. Uh, the, the learnings from earlier in my life and moved forward with the technology company, which has morphed into what it is today. So what, what has been feedback from people like now today? Um, hearing that, that story so far, like what are, what, what's an aha moment that they're like, you know what, I did that too, or Maybe that's what I need to do. Have you had any circumstances like that where someone has said, you know, Matt, I thought you were crazy. So I went and I went and found a cot. I, I've, I'll say that most people are more reserved where they don't necessarily. Get into those types of conversations, but I do, I do tell that story with the hope that it does inspire people to go out and do things. And I, I just had a conversation a few days ago, and this, this happens a few times a week, I would say, where, you know, people say, you know, I was talking to you and I realized I was thinking too small. So I, I, now this is what the new goal is, right? Or this is where I'm, this is where I'm going. So, M my goal again is to be able to inspire people to be able to, if take that step, whatever it is that you are afraid of. Or if you've already taken that step and you think that your goal is here, maybe your goal needs to be up here and go after that bigger goal, right? And once you achieve that bigger goal, then there's something above that, right? So don't limit yourself to mediocre. To the normal way of life, quote unquote, normal way of life. Just because you're afraid of something or you're afraid of what people are going to perceive of you if you, if you fail. Um, that's, that's sort of my whole message is just let's, let's get everyone inspired. Let's join together and, and. We can all learn from each other. And I'm, I'm not saying I'm the, the master expert of anything. I'm always open to new ways of doing things and new thought processes and uh, new introductions and, you know, I'm learning from people every day. Matt. If, if we'd looked at when that time could have been low, there's gonna be people going through recession here, maybe as they're listening today or sometime in the future. And then oh eight will come back at some point for somebody. And that might not be on a global scale. It might be just for you and your own economy or your city community. Um, maybe just in your own mindset. Would you say that the re one thing that got you through that was, were you more aware of the fact that you were at rock bottom and you sulked, or would you say you were more aware that you had a bigger goal in mind to get you up to. You know, a thousand plus, you know, um, doors to, to own or, or, you know, technology companies. Or maybe you didn't have that exact vision yet, but could you, if you were telling somebody today that says, you know what, I, everything's terrible. I've got a mound of bills. My marriage is on the rocks. My kids aren't talking to me. I spend less than four hours a week with anybody in my family. What was the big picture that you could say to somebody is just to stop and think about differently today? So I can remember when I was going through that time that I, I purposely wanted to feel what that felt like. To, you know, be at rock bottom because I feel like before that, again, I was always worried about the material things, the material possessions, and I wanted to break myself of that, of that thought process. And I felt like going through this where I didn't have anything, I knew what it was like to have all of this stuff. I, I lived in a 5,000 square foot house by my, by myself. Um, So I, I had all of the things that people consider as being successful, but I didn't like, I didn't like the feeling of. What that was doing. I didn't like the, the feeling even of people that I was hanging out with at the time. Again, people would look at me and sort of, I don't wanna say use me for my money, but, you know, wanna hang out with me because it seemed like I had a lot. Right. So I wanted to completely separate, separate myself, and completely break myself from that entire thought process that, that sort of internal presentation of what I felt like I had to do. And for me, going the path that I went, I felt was the best way to be able to break myself of that to, so that I didn't, I didn't portray that feeling anymore. I didn't portray that emotion of, I've gotta worry about. You know what people are gonna think of me. And it kind of goes back even to when I was a kid, right? Like I, I said, I was always very, very self-conscious and worried about what people thought of me. You know, fast forward 10, 15 years, I still was doing that, but I was, I was doing that with stuff and presenting myself as being, you know, somebody that was not authentic. So by, by breaking all of that and living through a completely different life, Um, I was able to separate myself from that. So I, I remember having that, that exact, that exact thought as I was living that. And I was never afraid, cuz I always knew that I had the skills or I had the ability to be able to do more. What I'm finding interesting with, with what you also said is as I went through my different seasons of ups and downs, whether that be my mental, physical relationships, wealth, all of those things, I'm realizing that, you know, having a, a person or a mentor who can actually see through all of that, very hard to come by. If I was to ask you, Matt, Would you be somebody who, who would, who could organize a group of people? Like such as myself or my peers or other people at different levels, no matter what level they come at, and help them organize a way of chunking things down. A way of, you know, saying it's time for a new chapter. Right? Or it's time to get ready, you know, clean up the, the yard cuz the new season's coming and we need to, to recalibrate. It's actually interesting that you, uh, mentioned this cuz this is exactly what we are looking to, to accomplish next, right? Um, our goal, and some people might be listening to this on the podcast or maybe you've heard of this, uh, somewhere else, but the podcast Invest in square Feet is all about. Wealthy entrepreneurship and our goal is to be able to take business owners and grow and protect their wealth so that they can invest passively into multi-family real estate. So our goal is to be able to work with other business owners. No matter where you're at, again, I'm, I'm saying business owners, but it could be people who are thinking about, you know, creating a business. Uh, and we'll, we'll have this group, this mastermind type, uh, facility where we'll pair you up with other people that, um, you know, are in a similar boat, but then also some people that are a little bit. Further, a little bit more advanced than what you are. So again, you're always going to, to keep growing through this, you're always going to have that, that direction, that guide to be able to, um, know what to expect at this, this certain level. And I, I'm, I. Like I said earlier, I'm not even at my capacity. I'm not finished yet, so I'm still always looking for additional people to be able to bring into my life to help me get to the next level. So I'm even going to use this, you know, for, to better myself. Um, and that's, that's the whole reason why I even started the podcast. Invest in square feet to bring entrepreneurs together, learn from other entrepreneurs. Uh, and now we've interviewed. Over 200, I think we're probably about 230 or so interviews at this point. So we've, we've interviewed all, all types of industries. Multimillionaires, zinc, 500 billionaires. We've, we've had everybody, uh, all walks of life and all types of. Um, advice and input from a lot of these people, which again, has shaped and helped me with the way that I think. And I want to be able to expose this from not only my own perspective, but again, bringing together everyone who, who is going through and, and, and experiencing these, these different things all at the same time. Um, you know, bring them together so that we can all grow together and learn from one another. And, um, Again, make, make our mark on this world, which again, ultimately is about, um, bettering, bettering the lives around us, bettering our worlds, whatever it is that we're, uh, that we're interested in And a great way to think of all of your businesses, um, is that it's a vehicle to accomplish something else. So one of, one of the goals that I actually partnered with, uh, some other multi-family real estate investors is to eradicate dog EU in Asia, right? So I'm a, I'm a huge dog lover, and this is very early on, but our goal is to. Understand, you know, how the dogs got where they are today, what are the complications for getting them, um, you know, getting them adopted, you know, medicine, all of that type of stuff. Um, you know, we want to play a role in that and be able to make a huge impact into eradicating, uh, the dog euthanasia. So all of the stuff that I'm doing, all of the businesses that, that are being started and created, that's one of the end goals that I want to be able to use those vehicles to be able to, to impact. And I'm sure that the listeners have all kinds of. Um, opportunities, organizations that they're interested in as well, and using the business as a vehicle to be able to impact whatever those organizations are. That's, that's what this is all about. Love that, Matt. , something maybe that's repeatable by you or, or by anyone else is, uh, listening is. To me, you get an opportunity today to decide on something. You can either take part in recession or you can decide not to take part in recession, You can look at whatever excuse you want to not growing, whether that's inflation or job loss, or you know, hard to find staff or you know, all kinds of things that are going on in the media today. Or you can decide to go after a mission. That's exactly what this whole thing is all about. This is my way of bringing people into my life who have, have goals and want to be able to better themselves. Powerful things can happen when you have people. Connected who are on the same, the same e energy wavelength. It's really, inspiring being able to be around people who are, who are making things happen. So that's what this whole thing is all about, and, and trying to cultivate that, that group of people to make that impact in the world. All right, so there you have it. You know, I find it really interesting when you open up and talk about things that you've gone through in the past, and this could be good or bad, but a lot of people seem to gloss over the bad and they don't want to talk about it. But in my experience, I felt like when I embraced that quote unquote rock bottom, and now looking back on it, I. Talk about those types of things. I can absolutely recognize the transformations that I went through during that time period. And just like everything else in my life, I, I try to keep a positive attitude about everything. And I recognize that when I made those changes to embrace the rock bottom, it really did it more or less humbled me. Right. I was able to get away completely from the mindset of having to keep up with everyone else and having to have the best of everything right. So, Remember to embrace your rock bottom no matter what you're going through. If you feel like you are at rock bottom or you've hit a low point, make sure to embrace it and learn from it and evaluate what you're going through and thinking at that time and what you should be doing to move forward so that you don't have that happen to you again. That's one of the main things that I see people doing is they'll hit some type of rock bottom, they'll. Make some type of crash landing, but then they don't change anything. It's still the exact same routine. They might not be as disciplined as what they need to be, so don't do any of that. Right. One of the other main things that I've absolutely learned over the years is that you want to. You want to find someone who has already done whatever it is that you are trying to accomplish, whether that be an individual person or if that's joining a group, your learning curve is going to be so much shorter. That's what you want to do. You want to be able to find other people who. Ideally are doing it right now. You know it's best if you can find someone who is actively doing whatever it is that you want to do right now and then learn from them whether you have to hire them or they have some type of program or group or something like that. That's the type of situation you want, and be careful when you get into a situation where, Someone claims that they had done so many things in the past, but they're not doing that today. They might have had success at that point whenever that was in the past. But things change. The market changes. People change. And things that might have worked 10, 15, 20 years ago might not necessarily be as effective anymore. Or other people, the market have caught up to whatever they are or whatever that they did. Maybe the market is all doing that now and, and their unique selling proposition is no longer unique anymore today. So be very, very careful who you're taking your advice from. One of the other really powerful things that I like to do is, again, refer to these ups and downs, and everyone is going to have these ups and downs as seasons in my life, right? None of these things last all that terribly long, but we all have this propensity to look at the worst case scenario and look at. The sky is falling, and this is horrible, right? This is a season that's not going to last very long, right? Maybe it lasts six months, two months, three months, a few weeks, but we think that our lives are over. So don't get bogged down in that. You're going to make it through and refer to these both ups and downs as seasons in your life. And of course, as always, if you want to understand what the wealthy do, head over to invest in square feet and sign up for our newsletter. We're going to have other tips and tricks and things that our guests reveal to us that are only. Published on the newsletter, and we also are publishing the various different investment opportunities that we may have available as well on that newsletter we drop every Wednesday, and we are available on whatever podcast platform it is that you use.

National Parks Traveler Podcast | Yellowstone's Gold and Cape Hatteras's Shifting Sands

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Play Episode Listen Later May 21, 2023 36:43

There are external and internal influences that can impact units of the National Park System. Urban sprawl can strangle parks and their natural resources. Wildfires can sweep across boundaries and into parks. Rivers can flood and wash out trails and roads, as we saw last June at Yellowstone National Park. Today we're going to be talking about looming threats to Yellowstone and Cape Hatteras National Seashore. In the case of Yellowstone, it's a gold mine proposed to be sunk into a mountain towering over the park's northern entrance at Mammoth Hot Springs. At Cape Hatteras, it's the Atlantic Ocean and the natural dynamics of barrier islands, which were not designed by nature to remain in one place. Instead, they shift as the ocean erodes beaches and moves sand about. In both of these cases, there are solutions in sight. The question is whether they'll succeed.

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The Essential Guide to Visiting and Camping in the National Parks

Play Episode Listen Later May 17, 2023 51:55

Art of Manliness Key Takeaways There are 63 national parks, but there are 424 national park sitesThe most crowded time of the year is when every kid in the country is out of school; it is especially busy in the first few weeks of summer vacation Months in advance, check if the park you plan to visit has a reservation system There are only five parks that require a reservation to get into the park; however, most all require a reservation for campingPeople will get their entire family on computers to sit there are refresh the park's website hoping that one of them is lucky enough to get access to a reservation “The single most important thing that we tell everybody is to get up early.” – Jeremy Puglisi Yellowstone is a driving park more than it is a hiking park; it is a touring parkJeremy's favorite national park in Olympic National Park in Washington state and his favorite state park is Assateague in MarylandJeremy and Brett liked Grand Teton more than Yellowstone Some of the best state parks: Custer State Park in South Dakota, Adirondack Park in New York State, Assateague State Park in Maryland, Snow Canyon State Park in Utah, and Jack London State Park in CaliforniaNationally overlooked parks in the East: Acadia in Maine, Cape Cod national seashore in Massachusetts, Shenandoah in Virginia, New River Gorge in West Virginia, and Cape Hatteras national seashore in North Carolina The most popular parks, such as Yellowstone, Yosemite, and the Grand Canyon, will be less busy during the shoulder months (March-April and September) Read the full notes @ podcastnotes.orgAmerica's national parks are one of the country's greatest treasures, and many people have it on their bucket list to visit one or more of these gems. But figuring out where to go and how to execute a national park experience can sometimes feel a little overwhelming.Here to offer some really helpful advice on both visiting and camping in the national parks is Jeremy Puglisi, co-author, along with his wife Stephanie, of Where Should We Camp Next?: National Parks: The Best Campgrounds and Unique Outdoor Accommodations In and Around National Parks, Seashores, Monuments, and More. Today on the show, Jeremy walks us through how to navigate the complex reservation system some of the parks have in place and what it takes to secure a campsite inside the parks. He then shares his best tips for getting the most out of a national park experience in general, as well as when you're visiting some of the country's most iconic destinations, including Yosemite, Yellowstone, and the Grand Canyon. At the end of our conversation, Jeremy shares the national parks he thinks are underrated, and if you want to avoid the crowds of the national parks, he also shares his picks for the country's best state parks.Resources Related to the PodcastJeremy's previous appearance on the AoM podcast: Episode #711: — How to Plan the Ultimate Road Triprecreation.govnps.govKOA campgroundsAoM Article: Beat the Crowds (And the Fees) With Dispersed CampingConnect With Jeremy PuglisiThe RV Atlas websiteThe RV Atlas podcastRV Atlas on InstagramRV Atlas on Twitter

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Episode 208: Beyond Yes-Men: How Agreeable Sales Teams Could Be Costing You Profits

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Play Episode Listen Later Apr 12, 2023 29:18

What if the qualities we look for in our salespeople - being agreeable, friendly, and eager to please - are actually hindering our sales and costing us profits? In this thought-provoking podcast, sales expert Jeremy Miner challenges the conventional wisdom that a happy and accommodating sales team is always the most effective. With decades of experience in the sales industry, Jeremy brings a fresh perspective to the table, showing how a different approach can "pull your clients in" and avoid the common pitfalls of traditional sales techniques that often trigger resistance in potential customers. From door-to-door sales teams to high-level boardroom negotiations, the insights shared in this podcast have the power to transform the way you think about sales and revolutionize the way you do business. So join us as we explore the fascinating world of sales psychology and discover how to unleash the full potential of your sales team. Get access to a free mini-course called the NEPQ 101 Mini-courseSign up here: www.salesrevolution.pro I had the opportunity to spend quite a bit of time with some very, very, very successful people, and we were talking about legacy and what we want our legacy to be. What do we want to leave behind after our days are over? And a really interesting. Comment was brought up, and this is something that I think I need to share with everyone because it's something that not very many people think about. We all think about all of the success, and we all think about what we're going to leave behind and how great it's going to be for whoever it is, whether that be an organization, our families, or whatever it might be. We're proud to leave all of them. Things are behind to the next generation. This one particular topic, though, really stood out and made me realize that, yeah, you know, I have some work to do in this area as well. As many of you know, my father passed away when I was 16. He drowned in Cape Hatteras. And I'm not gonna get into all the details as to what happened afterward, but essentially this idea, this concept that was brought up was something that I lived through as well, and the idea is so simple. All you have to do is just put instructions in place for whoever it is that you might. Giving your assets to afterward. Tell them bank accounts, tell them, you know, plans who, who has what information, how, if you have a business, how does the business run? Who is responsible for what? Just planning out and giving that information to you. Heirs can be incredibly, incredibly powerful and they will thank you over and over and over and over again for having the foresight to be able to put all of that information in place and have it in one area so that people know and understand it. On Invest in Square Feet, we unlock the secrets of wealthy entrepreneurship. I'm Matt Shields and my mission is to help business owners just like you, protect your wealth so that you can invest passively in multi-family real estate. Okay, so today we're going to have a really interesting conversation with a sales professional named Jeremy. If you've heard of him before, you probably know that he has some, we'll call it unorthodox ways of selling, and we'll get into this, but most sales trainers, most salespeople approach sales with a very. I guess the happy type of mindset. You want to be the person that is very upbeat and positive when you approach whoever it is that you're trying to sell to. And Jeremy teaches a completely different idea, and I can tell you from experience that this does work. This does get you more. Engaged with your sales prospect, so I'm not gonna spoil it. I'm not gonna go any deeper than that. Jeremy's gonna dive into the entire process, and how you can increase your sales, and it is completely unintuitive to what most people believe. I remember the sales manager was like, Hey, Jeremy, just remember when they opened the door. You gotta be really excited, be really enthusiastic, and start talking to 'em about all the great things this is gonna do for them. But I noticed from the very first door, That I was getting all these objections every time I, the more excited I was, the more turned people, people were, more turned off, the more excited I was. We can't afford it. We don't need it. We already have a company for that. Uh, we already talked to you guys last month. I need to talk to my spouse. Let me think it over. Can you call me back a week, a month, or a year later? And I remember probably about seven to eight weeks in of that if I remember. There was this one time I was, I was standing on the curb. I was actually sitting down. I still remember cuz my legs, like when you, have you ever done door-to-door sales? Sure. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. You know, when you go around door to door for 10 straight hours, your legs start to get pretty damn tight. Mm-hmm. , right? Like, it's, it's a, it's a workout in itself and you're talking like the middle of July, full humidity, sweat, drench down your back, you're at nine o'clock at night. And I remember one particular, it was a Friday night. I was sitting there waiting for the sales manager to pick me up. I'd worked 12 hours that day and made zero sales. So when you make zero sales in a straight commissioned sales job, that means you make $0. You can be better off working at McDonald's. That whole week I'd made zero sales, so I'd worked 60 plus hours, made $0, and I remember setting there, just barely married. Child on the way, how can I go home to her and say, we don't have enough money to pay our rent in a couple of weeks, we're gonna have to move in with your parents. Mm-hmm. live in the basement. It's gonna be one of those guys. Okay. Yeah. My pride, I did, I had too much pride to do that. Okay. And I remember thinking like, you know, maybe. Maybe selling just wasn't for me. Maybe I just wasn't a salesperson. I was not born. I need to get a real job. Okay. And I remember, uh, when the sales manager picked me up that night, he popped in a Tony Robbins cd, cuz 20 plus years ago, people, believe it or not, listen to things that are called CDs. Mm-hmm, he popped in the CD and I might be butchering it, but he said, he said something to the fact that, that most people. For the simple reason, they don't learn the right skills that are necessary to succeed. They don't learn the right skills. Now, I went on to say that everybody's taught skills, but the people who fail are the ones who were not taught the right ones. And when I heard that it was like this. It was like the kind of the. Maybe the heavens open up to me like there's this light, light bulb moment, like, you know, like the God was speaking to me and sent down his messengers. That may be what the company was training me and what I was learning from some of the old sales gurus. Maybe they just weren't the right skills. Maybe they were outdated. Maybe they just didn't work. Very well with today's prospects. I never thought that that could even be a possibility. I was so new in sales, I just didn't know what I didn't know. Mm-hmm... And at the same time, my degree that I was going to school for magically thought heaven's behavioral science, and I was getting a minor in human psychology. Okay, which is kind of important to understand in sales. I don't think most salespeople understand the psychological impact, of the way the brain thinks. And so I was learning from my professors that the most persuasive way to communicate was here the theory, but from the gurus, they were teaching. It was over here. It was like completely opposite. So I'm like, how do I take the theory of behavioral science and how the brain makes decisions to do something or not? How do I take that and put that into a sales process? Mm-hmm... So that was my whole thing at that point. How do I do that? So I started learning how to use techniques that work with humans. So instead of pushing my prospects that trigger sales resistance that most salespeople are taught, I started learning from just the way human beings interact and the way they think. Psychology to get my prospects to pull me in where I didn't have to push when I started learning that skill. Selling became very, very easy and extremely profitable from that point. Are you with me? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, so walk through an example of that, like, right? So I would imagine that when you first started out selling whatever it was you're selling, you know, as you know, knock, knock, knock on the door. , you know, Hey, you know, ma'am, we're, we're here, we're selling, you know, this product, and it's, you know, gonna be great. You, you're gonna get this and this and this, and Oh no, I don't want it. I don't want it. As you said, you went through all the different objections. What, what did that turn into after you started realizing this? How did that, how did that pitch change, would you say? Yeah, and it's obviously different door-to-door than if you're selling B2B or more inbound leads. Outbound leads, which I can give different examples for that as well. But you know, what I started noticing is that the more I looked and acted and talked like a salesperson, The more resistance I was getting from the prospect. Mm-hmm... So I started thinking, even in those days, 20, it was about 22 at that point, how do I reduce that resistance? So I'm not competing with that in the first minute. Because if you're competing with sales resistance the very first minute, it's so hard to overcome that. You're just competing with objections the whole time. It, just makes selling so stressful when it doesn't have to be. So how do I reduce resistance? So as a door-to-door salesperson, which is gonna be different than if. Selling to a boardroom meeting. It's a little bit different there, but what I started doing is I'm like, Instead of wearing all these nice clothes that my sales manager taught me I should wear and like nice watches and jewelry. Cuz that just smells like what, right? Sales. Salesperson. Salesy. Yeah, exactly. Salesy. How do I, how do I get them to view me not as a salesperson, even in my wardrobe? So I'm like, okay, what I'm gonna do is I bought like a $10 Walmart watch. Cause I didn't have any money anyways. It wasn't like I was doing a fancy watch, but I bought like a $10 Walmart watch. I remember I put a tape. On my side of my, of my, my pants, I wore just cargo khakis. I wore a white New Balance grandpa shirt. Do you know what I'm talking about? The white new balance, like when you become grandpa age, you start wearing the white new balance cuz you want the cover. I started wearing those as a 22-year-old Okay. Just a regular polo shirt. Very basic. Had the company logo on there, and then I'm like, okay, what other things can I do? I got a metal clip. like this with like a survey thing on it, so mm-hmm. , I think I'm more like a meter reader. And then I went and got a lime green and an orange construction vest. I'm not kidding when I say this. And just that alone, when they came to the door, lowered resistance cuz they didn't view me as a salesperson trying to sell them something. So instead of being up in their grill like I was, I was more back and I was sitting here like, Looking around the home, you know, kind of looking around like, I'm doing a survey, and they come, they're like, oh yeah, how can I help you? And I'm like, yeah. Are you guys the, um, are you guys the, the homeowners here very like, confused, like Yeah, yeah. We're the homeowners. What's going on? Immediately? Instead of like triggering sales resistance that most salespeople do in the first 10 seconds, I'm triggering curiosity. Okay. Just that alone, man. I could go into a lot more, but just that alone, right there almost, I call it the confused old man, because when you hear a confused old man, what do you wanna do? You wanna help you help. Exactly. Exactly. Help, right? You wanna help the confused old man? That's a great analogy. Just by that lowered sales resistance by 80, 90%. And then if you have the right questions to ask at the right time, you trigger to be more cur. One thing we all have to understand, this is just behavioral science 1 0 1, within the first seven to 12 seconds of any sales interaction you are involved in. Mm-hmm. , whether that's. Door to door, whether that's on a cold call to a company, whether that's presenting to a board of directors, whether that's in a home selling B2C or an inbound lead. You're setting here like we are on Zoom. Your prospects subconsciously, we cannot even help it the way our brain works. Are already picking up social cues from you. They're picking up on your verbal and nonverbal and body language cues from your tonality and what you were saying and or asking that triggers their brain to react. This is scary. If we don't understand this, react in one of two ways. Okay? So if we come across as aggressive, overly assumptive, and needy, you know what I mean by needy, right? You can tell when the salesperson needs the deal, right? Hey, do you have two minutes of your time or I can? Nobody believes you're only gonna take two minutes of time. You're needy and you come across attached. And you don't know the right questions to ask. It triggers the brain to go into what we call fight or flight mode. You've heard of fight or flight mode, right? Sure, absolutely. Everybody has. But does anybody know what triggers fight or flight mode? Most people don't. And as a salesperson, you probably want to understand what triggers fight or flight mode. So you eliminate that so you don't trigger fight or flight mode cuz then you're just competing against the Great Wall of China, I call it. Mm-hmm... It's like the great wall of objections you have to then break down. I'd rather not have a wall at... I'd rather just have complete openness so I can do that. So that's where the prospect, when you trigger fight or flight mode, as everybody knows they do what They get defensive. Mm-hmm. , that's flight mode or flight mode is they try to get rid of you and they say things like that, oh, I forgot about the appointment. Hey, I'm too busy. Can you call me back later? Oh yeah. Call me back Saturday night at 10:00 PM Okay, I'll call you back Saturday. And then they never answer. Right? Yeah. Or, you know, after we, we just don't need it. Uh, we're good. We already used somebody for that. How much is this gonna cost me within the first 30 seconds? You're just, you're triggering that. Okay. Now, once you learn how to work with human behavior, okay, we call that neuro-emotional persuasion question. It stands for n e p q, and you learn how to come across more. In your conversations now when I need, when I say neutral, that means you're unbiased. You're not quite sure if you can even help yet. How? How could you even know if you could help it? Like if somebody comes to you and says, Hey Jeremy, I appreciate you. Let's say you're going in front of a boardroom meeting and they're like, Hey Jeremy, this sounds really good. Somebody you haven't even met yet. A decision maker. You've met with three or four other decision-makers. Now you're coming in, there's eight. Four of them don't even know who you are. And they're like, Hey, we are to use a vendor for this. Why should we go with you? What would most salespeople say when they heard that? What do you think they would say? Yeah, they would, they, they start going, oh, we're the best at this, or You should go with us because we've been ranked the number one in customer service and we've, JD Associates ranked us, and our clients are this and this and this. That's why you should go with us and our competitors. It's in one ear out the other. Because why? Because every salesperson says that. So they just associate you with everyone else trying to stuff their solution down their throat that's ever tried to sell them something. So what I wanna do is I want to disarm that person. I want them to let their guard down. because if I can get them to let their guard down, then they become open to what I'm offering. Mm-hmm. , if I can't, very hard to make a sale. Okay. Or it just prolongs the sales cycle by 10 times. Okay. So if they say something like that, I'm just gonna lean back and say, well, I'm not quite sure that you should yet. Yeah. You know, we'd have to understand a little bit. About what you're using right now in X, Y, Z areas, just to see if we could even help, because there are some firms where there's just not much we can do for them, and they're sometimes better off staying with who they already have. So for example, we need to understand and then boom, I want you to watch when you do that, the body language and the demeanor of the prospect when you say, well, why should we go with you? Well, I'm not quite sure that you should yet. , if you pause two or three seconds, they're gonna be like, mm-hmm. Yeah. You can just tell them, it's just it, you take over the status in that room. Mm-hmm. , because experts and authorities don't need the sale. They already have all these clients that are getting results. They don't need you. In fact,, when you do that, it's almost like they view you much differently. They're like, Okay. Maybe I should listen to this person. He doesn't seem needy. Mm-hmm. , because when you feel that somebody's needy, let's say you're, you say you're single and you're chasing after somebody, you're really interested and you just keep chasing them in the beginning, what do they typically do? Yeah. They're gonna run away. They run. Yeah. But if you act like you don't need them, what do they typically do? Yeah. Then, then they're all over. Yet they, yeah. They want that. Pull you in more. It's the same thing in sales. I, I don't know why nobody's putting that together yet... It's just. Human Psychology 1 0 1. That is so interesting. So, You know, obviously, again, this, this can go in all kinds of different directions depending on exactly what you're trying to sell and the, the, uh, the, the platform or the median that you're trying to use it in. But do you have, a framework or a structure that you would say, you know, works pretty well in pretty well? You know, any situation too. Again, ki that that opening comment, that opening remark, is it, is it essentially, you know, I'm, I'm not sure you should or, so biggest, the biggest problem with most companies and their salespeople is that their salespeople do not have a structured sales process that everyone in the company is following. everybody's doing their own thing. They're just winging it. And then the, the owners, the, the sales management are wondering why, oh, y you know, they're losing 30% of their staff every six months having to replace 'em. They just, there's no se there's no sales structure that actually works. Mm-hmm. the reason why, our company has grown so fast, like Inc. Uh, I mean, it doesn't really matter, but Ink Magazine ranked us the fastest, or Inc. 5,000 list, ranked as the number one fastest growing sales training company, not overall. , but number one, fastest growing sales training company in the United States last year in just our third year. The reason that is, is because our sales structure, our methodology that we train companies, n e PQ works for any industry. Mm-hmm... When people say, well, I don't know. I know you train this company in that company, in this industry, but I don't know if it'll work for me. I sell X, Y, Z, and Z digits, and it has to be sold a certain way. I just don't know. All we simply say is, do you sell to human needs? Mm-hmm. ? Yes. Now, do the human beings you talk to, do your prospects talk to, or do they have problems? Yes. Or do they have at least emotional needs? Yes. Does your solution solve those problems and emotional needs? Yes. Then what we train you would actually work for what you sell, okay? Mm-hmm... So we use a methodology called N E P Q which stands from neuro emotional persuasion. Persuasion questioning. So from the start of that conversation, okay? From what we call connecting questions, which take the focus off you. Put it on them. Mm-hmm. from situation questions that help you and the prospect find out what their real situation is from problem awareness questions. This is all structured, okay? It's not out of order. It's in a structure because it persuades them the most. It pulls them into the most problem awareness questions that help the prospect find out what their real problems are. One thing we all have to do, and we all know this, is that most of your prospects when you initially start talking to them, don't even know that they have a problem. , or maybe they know they have a problem, but they don't really know what the problem is. They know that something's wrong, but they don't know what the real problem is, or most of them don't really understand the consequences of what happens if they don't do anything about solving the problems. So when you learn what we train you, not only are you able to help them find that one problem. but you're also helping them to able to find two or three or maybe four other problems they didn't even realize they had. And when you're able to do that, not by telling them that you tell them what their problems are, it does what one ear out the other. You're biased, you're the salesperson. Your questioning allows 'em to see. How bad their problems really are, and it builds a massive gap in their mind from where they are. We call that their current state or current situation compared to where they want to be. We call that their objective state. Now, what's the gap in between all of these newfound problems that your questioning skills allow them to see they have, that they didn't know they had before? When you're able to do that, they start to view you. They don't view you like all these other salespeople trying to push something down their throat. Yeah. They view you as the expert, the trusted authority in the market that they're going to buy all of the time. So problem awareness questions help you and them find out what their real problems are, and the root cause of the problem. See, most salespeople can help them find a problem, but they're not able to help the prospect realize what the root cause of that problem is, and then most importantly, how those problems are affecting them. , personally, I'm talking even CEOs of Fortune 500 companies, how those problems are affecting them personally, the business personally. Okay. Then we wanna move into a stage called solution awareness questions that allow them to see what their future's gonna look like once all these newfound problems are solved. So they're like, oh my gosh, this is what my future's gonna look like for me, for my business, for themselves personally, depending on what you sell, B2C or b2b. And then we wanna ask what's. Consequence questions that allow them to see what the consequences are, the ramifications are if they don't do anything about solving the newfound problems, okay? Mm-hmm. , then we're, if we're in B2B sales, we're then either going to transition into the next step. That could be a demo. The next step could be a proposal. The next step could meet the board. The next step could meet the next decision-maker. Just depends on what your next step is in your sales cycle. B2b, if you're in b2c, If it's a one-call close, say you sell life insurance or something, just as an example, be the next step presentation. Okay? Or maybe it's a two-step next-step demo. Then the close just depends on your industry, and your process. We teach all of that. And then how do you present? How do you present back where it emotionally connects the dots? So instead of boring your prospects to death with like a 50 mm-hmm. slide deck. About, here's our corporate office. It looks so fancy. Here are our awards. Nobody cares about that. I hate to tell you this. Nobody can give an S h I T about what your corporate office looks like or how many awards you won. They can Google that themselves and look at your company website. They do not care. You are just boring them. We wanna connect the emotional dots of their problem. , the root cause and where they want to go, and how our solution will actually solve those problems and give them where they want to go. That's what they care about. Mm-hmm... And that gets 'em to think results-based thinking. Over price-based thinking, because if you get 'em to think price-based thinking, you're dead. They're just gonna negotiate you down. You get 'em to think results-based thinking. They will gladly pay way more to your company to solve their problems and get them what they want. If they can feel like you can get them the best result, they will gladly pay way more. I can assure you that. Mm-hmm... Mm-hmm... And then we wanna ask what are called commitment questions that get them to commit to take the next step and purchase what you're offering to solve their problems. So that would be the sales structure. in an overview, bunch of boring nerd stuff. I know. No, no. I, I, I love that and I, I, I'm, I'm curious. Um, I, I think that a lot of people will go in, as you said, they've got their 50-page or 50-slide deck thing Correct? And go into this pitch and here's who we are, and we did this, and we have this and, and all of this fi Yeah. And finally, in the end, they get to whatever it is that they're, you know, they're, they're trying to sell with your approach. Would you, would you say you're selling in a boardroom? Would you walk in and, and, you know, start going into that? We're gonna have a presentation up on the board, but we're also gonna take him... It's not like we're just going into the boardroom and that's the first meeting we've had. Yeah, it's typically a first-call discovery. If you're selling b2b, for most industries, the first call's gonna be a discovery call with some type of C-level executive. That might be part of the decision-making process, probably not right. And then you're navigating. You have to learn the right questions to navigate through the organization and bring in the other decision-makers. Forbes had an article the other day, about the average company in the United States of America, we're not even talking Fortune 500 or Fortune 100, just the average size company has 6.7 decision makers and or influencers. Now, even if it's not a decision-maker, what happens if you're selling some type of software? Let's say that you're selling cyber. And you're selling to a bank, say Wells Fargo for example. I'm just throwing out some. In some companies, not only do you want to get involved, the decision makers, let's say the CFO, F, or the CEO make the ultimate decision, I dunno, or the department, but let's say the CTO O is gonna be the one that's gonna have to train. their staff on how this new software works. They don't make the decision, but they're the ones responsible for training the staff. Do you think you probably want to get that C T O and the department head over there involved because do you think they can influence the ultimate decision maker on what they decide to do? Hell yeah. Because, the ultimate decision maker might not be down in the trenches and even know what their problems are. They might have zero ideas, they're over the company. They don't know what's going on in the cybersecurity part. So not only do you have to get the decision makers involved, you have to get the influencers because that c t O might feel his job is gonna be threatened by this new software. They could feel like it's gonna take too much to install it, it's gonna take too much to operate it, and then they. Shoving it off to the decision makers and dissuading the decision maker, and then the sales loss. So you have to know how to navigate and bring those other people in. But if you're in a boardroom, typically there's gonna be even other decision makers in there who don't know anything about you. You go in there and just go through a presentation, you're, it's like you're wing it. You're hoping and praying that something you said in the presentation is gonna stick and they're gonna magically buy. Uh, we call that. , you know, it's a drug. I love it. So many salespeople take where they hope and pray something they're gonna to say is gonna stick. And that's a hard and unpredictable way to close sales. It just, you have no control. So we wanna go in with that sales process. It might be an abbreviated questioning process, but we're gonna start off that instead of like, Hey, going right into our pitch. We might come in and be like, now John, I know, I know we've, we've met and we've talked about X and Y and Z. Let's, let's do this. We prepared something to go through on how we could. You know, the challenges, that Jim and Laura brought up the other day, but just so I don't go over things that they might have already discussed with you, what would everybody like to cover today? Just to see if we can actually help. Mm-hmm... And then I want to get like, well, we wanna cover this and we wanna cover that. And I'm like, okay, now I know where to go. And then I'm gonna ask more questions about that. I might start going through the presentation, but I'm also gonna stop and ask situation and problem awareness questions while I'm going through the presentation. So instead of a 50-slide deck, I might have that down to 10 or 12. My questioning skills are really pulling out more emotion. Cause that's where decisions are made decisions. And then I can close that. Dig you with me. Yeah, yeah, for sure. For sure. That makes perfect sense. Um, if you, if you could draw a picture of. Some of the results that you've gotten, right? Like what, what a salesperson's results might have looked like before they were going through your training. Look like after, I mean, I could, we have over 7,000 testimonials, in the last 28 months. So, we train every industry. So Forbes says there are 158 industries and then subsets of those, we're in all of those at this point. So, uh, we have, we trained over 351,000 salespeople in the county. In, the last three years, over 7,000 testimonies. The hard part about getting testimonials from salespeople is they never wanna. Yeah, how they're outselling everybody three to one. It's like pulling teeth. Like we don't, we don't even ask people anymore. People just come into our Facebook groups or ads and they'll post like, Hey, I started going through N PQ a year ago and my income went from 5,000 a month in commissions. Now I'm making 25,000 a month in commissions. Selling the exact same thing. Or, you know what? We have this home improvement company and we were doing 5 million in sales two years ago, and last year we did 47 million in sales, like massive results. You know, that's why we're ranked so high on, the INC 5000 list because you can't have that type of growth as a company without getting crazy results for your clients. Mm-hmm... And that's kind of why it's spread from, you know, fortune 100 companies. We even have a few of those clients now, all the way down to celebrities like Ryan Sirhans, one of our clients, the Million Dollar Listing New York guy, we train all of his salespeople that sell real estate, and lead generation coaching programs. Man, you know, wasn't that a great conversation? I know that I learned so much, and I hope that you did as well. So in today's episode, we learned just how important it is to approach the sales process from your customer's point of view. What is it that they're concerned with? What is it that they are interested in learning and fixing on their own? We learned how that typical, happy, upbeat characteristic that most salespeople have can actually be creating sales rejection before the conversation even starts. Success in sales is all about building relationships, and when you approach the sales call from a way where you are truly trying to understand what it is that the customer is struggling with, and what are their concerns, you're going to build a much, much deeper, more lasting relationship. If you're interested in learning more from Jeremy, I suggest that you check out some of his Facebook groups. Jeremy gives away a tremendous, tremendous amount of value for free in those groups. But he also has a free course@salesrevolution.pro where you can sign up and again, you get a free course called N E PQ 1 0 1 mini course, and he says that there are a few questions included in that mini-course, and just including those few questions alone to your sales process is going to increase your sales. And don't forget, if you wanna understand what the wealthy do, head over to invest in square feet and sign up for our newsletter. We include more content in that newsletter from our guests, and you can only get that from that newsletter. That is also how you learn about different investment opportunities in real estate and technology that we personally invest in. We drop every Wednesday and we are available on whatever podcast platform it is that you use.

Engines of Our Ingenuity 2525: Protruding Land

Engines of Our Ingenuity

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 18, 2023 3:52

Episode: 2525 Reflections on protruding land, shipwrecks and lighthouses. Today, protruding land.

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Four Foundations of the Church

Cornerstone Chapel - Audio Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 19, 2023 44:56

In 1869, the tallest lighthouse in America was built in Cape Hatteras, NC. It was built ½ mile from the coast, but after more than a hundred years of beach erosion, the Army Corps of Engineers had to relocate the lighthouse another ½ mile inland. The erosion threatened the foundation of the lighthouse. In a similar way, the Church is to be like a lighthouse—guiding people, warning people, and helping people to get safely home to Jesus. But unfortunately, there has been a slow erosion of some of the foundational elements of the Church that threaten the Church's ability to be that beacon of light that we are called to be. In Acts 2:42, we learn about four foundational elements that defined the Early Church—things that should still define the Church today. Find out what they are and how our church endeavors to stay on solid ground.

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Light Hearted ep 213 – Kraig Anderson, “Lighthouse Friends”

Light Hearted

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 19, 2023 62:03

Kraig Anderson Kraig Anderson is the owner and webmaster of one of the most popular lighthouse-related websites on the internet, lighthousefriends.com. Kraig grew up in the landlocked state of Utah and didn't move to a state with lighthouses until he attended graduate school at the University of California Santa Barbara. After earning his PhD in 1995, he worked for a few years at a high-tech company in the Bay Area, and it was while on an extended assignment from this job to the Raleigh/Durham area that he became interested in lighthouses following a day trip to Cape Hatteras and Bodie Island on the Outer Banks. After returning to California, Kraig planned a few trips with friends to explore lighthouses on the West Coast, and in 2001, he launched lighthousefriends.com to chronicle these journeys and help others discover lighthouses. Over the next decade or so, he managed to visit every lighthouse in the United States and a good portion of those in Canada. Using historic records and photographs gathered in his travels, Kraig compiled a history of each lighthouse in the United States and Canada to complement his photography. Screen grab from lighthousefriends.com Kraig co-authored a book on the lighthouses of New Brunswick in 2012, and in 2016, he received the “Modern Day Light Keeper Award” from the National Lighthouse Museum. During 2018 and 2019, Kraig compiled an inventory of keepers and other lighthouse personnel for the U.S. Lighthouse Society's research catalog that includes over 25,000 individuals. He currently serves on the board of directors for the U.S. Lighthouse Society. U.S. Lighthouse Society Executive Director Jeff Gales takes part in this discussion with Kraig Anderson and Light Hearted host Jeremy D'Entremont. This episode is also available in a video version on the USLHS YouTube channel.

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Capt. Marty's Outer Banks Fishing Report 12/9/22

Capt. Marty's Outer Banks Fishing Report

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 9, 2022 1:28

Jody O'Donnell fills in and files today's report, where offshore fishing was sparse, but surf fishing saw the likes of bluefish, sea mullet, and even several sharks near the Cape Hatteras point.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Researchers use “fake eggs” to spy on sea turtle hatchlings in Cape Hatteras

WHRO Reports

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 28, 2022 1:19

The team, including the University of Virginia, is using biological subterfuge.

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Big Sharks from the Surf w River and Bryan Lester

Fisherman's Post Fishing Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 28, 2022 48:46 Transcription Available

After an orientation on the types of sharks and the ideal water temperature and conditions, this episode goes into the big baits, the big gear, and the technical know-how needed to land big sharks from the Cape Hatteras surf. Made Possible By: Marine Warehouse Center Bland Landscaping Company Academy Sports For business inquiries contact: billy@fishermanspost.com Our Guests: Bryan & River Lester Hatteras Style Custom Rods IG: @hatterasstylecustom https://www.hatterasstylecustomrods.com/

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Ep. #21 Ryan "Leeps" Leopold

Life Boat Podcast.

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 18, 2022 128:34

The guys sit down with surfer, spear fisherman, hunter, all around waterman, and Human Fish Market Ryan Leopold to talk about Surfline overestimating reports lately, growing up in Virginia Beach, digitizing 300+ home surfing videos from Dad, Spearfishing, Cape Hatteras, gardening, growing your own food, importance of mother nature and being a good person, sponsors, friendship, mental health, his beautiful/ wonderful girlfriend and so much more in this episode. Give it a listen! Please let us know if you love the show. Thank you for listening and supporting the Podcast! If you want to sponsor us let us know...Follow us : Dylan @toddgossJonah @riggedforsea.Guest: Ryan Leopold @geeples

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May 15 - The 1951 Hurricane Able

This Day in Weather History

Play Episode Listen Later May 15, 2022 6:16

The season overall was already awake as we had already registered one tropical cyclone but this was the first hurricane of 1951, and seeing as how the letter A opens up the alphabet, we had a storm named Able. Later, on May 22, Hurricane Able reached its peak wind speeds for its lifespan when it hit 90 mph (150 km/h) about 70 miles (115 km) off Cape Hatteras, North Carolina. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Erick Huertas Crashes at Benji's

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 30, 2022 48:21

In this episode of the Budget Overland Podcast, Benji has a great conversation with our overlanding friend Erick Huertas, who is passing through on a cross country trip. Erick Huertas spent most of his childhood in Lancaster County Pennsylvania. Growing up in a low-income household, he developed a passion for the arts as a form of expression early on. Upon graduating High School, Erick enlisted in the United States Navy as a member of the esteemed Hospital Corps. As he began to travel the world as a young adult, he turned to photography to document his memories and the places he had traveled. While working as a healthcare worker in the fight against COVID, he purchased a Land Rover LR3 as a ‘fixer-upper.' In the summer of 2021. He embarked on the famous Trans-American Trail, a 5,000-mile dirt road trail from Cape Hatteras, NC to the Oregon Dunes. Erick spent 86 Days on the road and traveled across 33 states and 13,000 miles during his westward journey. Documenting his journey in a handwritten journal and taking photos on his iPhone, he will be featured in “Land Rover Owner International” in February 2022. Erick's moderate success through his trail encouraged him to take photography more seriously. Erick soon purchased a camera and enrolled in The University of Washington's Professional Photography Certificate. Through the Guru Shots Photo Competitions, he has been featured in 11 exhibitions and three magazines. Currently, he writes for LRO and “Rover Depot” documenting his expeditions. Erick also shoots stock photography for Alamy and iStock, a subsidiary of Getty Images. Erick hopes to blend his passions of Photography and writing with his passion for medicine as he aspires to work for Médecins Sans Frontières (Doctors Without Borders). In addition to being a student of Photography and Nursing, he studies French, German and Arabic. Erick has a strong belief that language and art are some of the best ways in connecting across different cultures. Connect with Erick: Social: @wandering_lottie Email: erickhuertas0@gmail.com www.flickr.com/people/erickhuertas Benji Ward is the founder of FB Budget Overland and co-host of the Budget Overland podcast. Benji is an off-road enthusiast, entrepreneur, and has been involved in the automotive industry for the past ten years. He enjoys spending quality time with his wife and son, exploring God's creations, and sharing tips and tricks along the way for overlanding. Jay Tiegs is co-host of the Budget Overland podcast, a 26 year veteran of the U.S. Army, outdoor enthusiast, and endurance athlete. He is passionate about outdoor adventure travel in his Toyota 4Runner and loves sharing his experiences to encourage others to get outside. If you enjoy the podcast, would you please consider leaving a short review on Apple Podcasts/ITunes? Your feedback is important to me and it would also take less than 60 seconds and make a difference in getting those hard to get guests as we expand our reach. Vist the Budget Overland Store: https://budget-overland-swag.myshopify.com/ Join the Budget Overland Newsletter: https://www.jaytiegs.com/pl/2147549465 Join the Budget Overland Facebook Community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/312054236893725 Watch the Budget Overland Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCcro_9fySgsgZiwO1E1lj1g Contact/Follow Benji: Instagram: @slow.yota Email: Budgetoverlandofficial@gmail.com Contact/Follow Jay: Link Tree: https://linktr.ee/dohardthings Email: jay@jaytiegs.com Website: www.jaytiegs.com

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Erick Huertas Crashes at Benji's

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 30, 2022 48:25

In this episode of the Budget Overland Podcast, Benji has a great conversation with our overlanding friend Erick Huertas, who is passing through on a cross country trip. Erick Huertas spent most of his childhood in Lancaster County Pennsylvania. Growingup in a low-income household, he developed a passion for the arts as a form ofexpression early on. Upon graduating High School, Erick enlisted in the United StatesNavy as a member of the esteemed Hospital Corps. As he began to travel the world as a young adult, he turned to photography to document his memories and the places he had traveled. While working as a healthcare worker in the fight against COVID, he purchased a LandRover LR3 as a ‘fixer-upper.' In the summer of 2021. He embarked on the famousTrans-American Trail, a 5,000-mile dirt road trail from Cape Hatteras, NC to the OregonDunes. Erick spent 86 Days on the road and traveled across 33 states and 13,000 milesduring his westward journey. Documenting his journey in a handwritten journal andtaking photos on his iPhone, he will be featured in “Land Rover Owner International” inFebruary 2022. Erick's moderate success through his trail encouraged him to take photography moreseriously. Erick soon purchased a camera and enrolled in The University ofWashington's Professional Photography Certificate. Through the Guru Shots PhotoCompetitions, he has been featured in 11 exhibitions and three magazines. Currently, he writes for LRO and “Rover Depot” documenting his expeditions. Erick also shoots stock photography for Alamy and iStock, a subsidiary of Getty Images.Erick hopes to blend his passions of Photography and writing with his passion formedicine as he aspires to work for Médecins Sans Frontières (Doctors Without Borders). In addition to being a student of Photography and Nursing, he studies French, Germanand Arabic. Erick has a strong belief that language and art are some of the best ways inconnecting across different cultures.Connect with Erick:Social: @wandering_lottieEmail: erickhuertas0@gmail.comwww.flickr.com/people/erickhuertas//////////////////ATTENTION////////////UPDATE BELOW///////////////////Hello, and welcome to the Budget Overland Podcast. Created by Jay and Benji in November 2021. Fast forward to April 2023, Jay and Benji parted ways. Not to worry Benji did a re-boot and skipped to season 3. BOP now has////////////|||\\\Voicemail Hotline+01-314-266-9536LISTENER DISCOUNT CODES:MOORE Expo "BUDGETOVER10" 10% offDevos "BOGOODS" 10% offMORRFlate "BUDGET" 15% offOverland Spices "BOSPICE" 10% offWhiskey & Wilderness "BO10" 10% offBigfoot Blankets "BO10" 10% offLonesome Adv "BO10" 10% offLinks to BO YouTube, Facebook, Instagram and Store go tohttps://www.budgetoverlandportal.com/ Become a BO Supporter! https://www.patreon.com/budgetoverland**Go to Apple Podcast and leave BOP a review! You will automatically be entered for our "Super Swag Pack Giveaway" We announce a winner every 50 Reviews! **Join the monthly "Insider Deals" email, where we partner with companies once a month with discounts on gear! https://www.budgetoverlandportal.com/***A special thanks to my BO PATRONS: Thank You!Joe GWandering PossumBrandon DillowChad LansingShane DeibertJay-Are SmithJimmy Jet -ST4x4ORP

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1990: Record high temperatures in Eastern US

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 12, 2022 2:44

The winter of 1989-1990 in the eastern 2/3rds of the nation had been brutal. November 1989 started mild in the western part of the nation, and a bit cooler in the East it was nothing out of the ordinary. The weather, however changed dramatically in late November. It turned very cold with frequent snowstorms in the central states and the east. In the Midwest temperatures averaged, in some places more than 15 degrees below normal, and it ranked as one of the 5 coldest Decembers on record, and the fierce winter was just getting started. At the end of December, just a day before Christmas one of the greatest coastal snowstorms every recorded struck South and North Carolina. By Christmas morning 1989 snow reached almost 4” in depth in Charleston, SC, 15” in Wilmington NC and more than a foot all the way out on Cape Hatteras, NC. Snow covered the ground as far south as Tampa and Daytona Beach. In January and February of 1990 temperatures began to moderate somewhat – but it remained cold and snowy in many places in the East. In mid-March winter broke and it did so by completely flipping the script. Warm air started to build across the Plains states and by March 10th the jet stream, that had dropped far south in the United States and brought cold air with it had retreated quickly northward into Canada. That allowed the warm air out west to pour into the East. March 12 , 1990 saw unheard of record high temperatures. The mercury reached 90 in Raleigh, NC, 87 in Norfolk, Va. 86 on the beaches of Atlantic City. And amazing 95 in Baltimore Md, breaking a record that had stood for 100 years. Meanwhile cool air still held out over New England and Long Island. While readings in northern New Jersey soared into the upper 80s, central Long Island was chilly. LaGuardia Airport, a mere 60 miles away in New York City reached no higher than 47. But the winter was clearly on the run on March 12, 1990 and no more artic air reached into the Eastern states until the following winter. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

National Parks Traveler: Cape Hatteras' Crowds And Collapsing Houses

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 6, 2022 44:16

From coast to coast, national parks, national forests, and state parks are being crowded, if not overrun at times, by visitors. One part of the country that has seen record-breaking visitation has been the Outer Banks of North Carolina, where Cape Hatteras National Seashore, Fort Raleigh National Historic Site, and the Wright Brothers Memorial combined welcomed nearly 4 million visitors last year. National Parks of Eastern North Carolina Superintendent Dave Hallec discuss that record visitation, and risks to ocean-front homes at Rodanthe.

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1994: Massive snowstorm dumps 30" in Central PA

In My Footsteps: A Cape Cod and New England Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 3, 2022 1:31

On March 3 1994, a major storm belted the eastern states, heavy rains fell along the east coast and heavy snow piled up in the interior. As much as 30” of snow buried parts of central PA. This intense storm resulted in the establishment of many seasonal snowfall records in the region. The snow was accompanied by frequent thunder and lightning in some locations. These thunder snows, acting much like downpours of rain in the summertime – gave downpours of snow that mounted up, in some places to 4-5 inches in a single hour. Along the East Coast, on the I-95 corridor, there was more than 2” of rain accompanied by wind gusts over 60 mph and urban street flooding and flooding along streams; 25 foot waves crashed on to Cape Hatteras, NC. A snow avalanche buried 5 cars under 20 feet of snow, trapping the occupants for 28 hours before rescue in the Pennsylvania Mountains of Clinton County. 28" of snow fell at State College PA; 24" at Lock Haven, PA. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

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Episode 55: The Wreck of the Montclair; Cape Hatteras National Seashore; 1970's Product Mascots; the Genius of Weird Al Yankovic(2-3-2022)

Play Episode Play 45 sec Highlight Listen Later Feb 3, 2022 48:42

Episode 55 starts off with the story of the wreck of the schooner Montclair off of Nauset Beach. Destroyed in a storm in 1927 the vessel remains a part of the beach itself, being revealed and hidden repeatedly over the years due to shifting sands. How did it end up there though?A very special Road Trip takes us to the beautiful Cape Hatteras National Seashore in North Carolina. Located on the Outer Banks it features a pair of historic lighthouses and so much more. Cape Hatteras Lighthouse was in fact the end game for the epic 2,100-mile jaunt in 2019.The king of parody music, Weird Al Yankovic has been making fans laugh for over 40 years. Parodying songs from Michael Jackson, to Queen, to Nirvana, and countless more, Weird Al has a timeless appeal that we dive into going way Back In the Day.Do you remember many of the popular and iconic product mascots of the 1970's? We're going to talk about the Top 5 including Morris the Cat, Woodsy the Owl, and more!There is a new This Week In History and Time Capsule as well!Be sure to watch for my livestreams called Without A Map Friday's at 8pm on Instagram which serve as a sort of postgame show for the podcast. Find them on IGTV after they've finished.Helpful Links from this Episode(available through Buzzsprout)Purchase Iconic Hotels and Motels of Cape CodWear Your WishDJ Williams MusicKeeKee's Cape Cod KitchenChristopher Setterlund's YouTube ChannelChristopher Setterlund.comThe In My Footsteps Podcast BlogOuter Banks.comWeird Al.comCape Hatteras Lighthouse - In My FootstepsListen to Episode 54 here.Support the show (https://www.buymeacoffee.com/InMyFootste)

HTP EP 29: The Wreck of the Steamship Home 1837

The History Things Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 31, 2022 76:05

Welcome back to another BONUS edition of The History Things Podcast! In this episode we change it up a bit by keeping things in house with co-host Pat McGuire taking us through the tragic sinking of the steamship Home of the coast of Cape Hatteras, North Carolina in 1837. This was a neat experience to get back to our roots being the storytellers that we are! This episode keepings things in the first quarter theme of the "Graveyard of the Atlantic," and features a harrowing account of one of the worst disasters to occur off of the coast of the Outer Banks. We sincerely hope you enjoy this new series where Matt and Pat take turns regaling you with some of their favorite tales from antiquity! The History Things Podcast is brought to you by TR Historical, your one-stop shop for all your historical fang gear needs. Shop TRHistorical.com and use the promo code: HISTORY THINGS to receive 10% off your next purchase. Make sure to tell them Pat & Matt sent you!Want to stay up to date on the latest news and happenings here at The History Things Podcast? Make sure to follow us on social media at @TheHistoryThingsPodcast (Facebook & Instagram) and to leave us a 5star rating and review on your favorite podcast app! All questions, comments, and compliments can be sent to HistoryThingsPodcast@gmail.comThanks for listening, we hope you enjoy the show!

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Episode 9: The Pulaski

Nautical Nonsense

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 14, 2022 23:03

The S.S. Pulaski was built for the ocean, unlike her predecessor Home. Pulaski was larger, faster, more robust and far more glamorous. She was the who's who of eastern seaboard ocean liners, everyone sought a berth aboard and dare to take a trip on board the new and elegant Pulaski. She was built so impressively not only to attract the attention of rich businessmen, but to allay passenger fears after what happened to the S.S. Home. S.S. Pulaski departed on her fourth voyage on the thirteenth of June, 1838. She was to set sail from Savannah, pick up more passengers in Charleston, then carry on to Baltimore. Many of the passengers on board were wealthy businessmen with last names we have all heard of, Hamilton and Rochester to name a few. The passengers who traveled on the Pulaski were some of the richest folk in the Southeastern United States. But, not all of the names are recorded in the manifest for the transit. And truthfully, this was a pretty common occurrence for the time. Sometimes tickets were exchanged, or someone signed on last minute, and there would be no record of that person on the ship. Sometimes, people just disappear from our written history. The North Carolina Coast is a mysterious place. There is one place in particular though, that leaves you with an eerie feeling. Hatteras Island used to be known as Croatoa or Roanoke Island. And yes, that's the same Roanoak Island where the settlers disappeared from without a trace. A large part of Hatteras island is mad up by the sandy Cape Hatteras. And while it may seem like a lovely vacation spot with a quaint lighthouse, this mystifying jutting cape off the North Carolina Coast and the area surrounding it, is also known as the graveyard of the Atlantic. Further Reading: Graveyard of the Atlantic Connect with Sydney Zaruba: Nautical Nonsense on Instagram Sydney on Instagram Nautical Nonsense & Sydney on Patreon

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HTP EP 28: The Outer Banks & The Graveyard of the Atlantic

The History Things Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 1, 2022 73:05

Season 3 is here! In our 2022 kickoff episode, we hang out with the Administrator of the Graveyard of the Atlantic Museum in Cape Hatteras, North Carolina, Josh Nonnemocher! Josh was a fantastic guest who took us through some of the coolest known and unknown stories and histories associated with one of the United State's most favorite vacation destinations, the Outer Banks!So if the winter doldrums are getting you down and you are longing for a nice warm beach, JOIN US this quarter as we get you prepared for you summer excursions and perhaps inspire you to take one if you weren't already... seriously... take a vacation everyone... you have earned it!From the islands founding, to the Golden Age of piracy and perhaps its most favorite pirate Blackbeard, to the American Civil War, lighthouses, the RMS Titanic, both World Wars, plus numerous technological advancements such as radio and the first flight by the Wright Brothers, come find out how the Outer Banks has a fingerprint on some of the worlds biggest stories from history! Also be sure to check out the Graveyard of the Atlantic Museum when you visit the island and let Josh know what an amazing job he did on the show!The History Things Podcast is brought to you by TR Historical, your one-stop shop for all your historical fang gear needs. Shop TRHistorical.com and use the promo code: HISTORY THINGS to receive 10% off your next purchase. Make sure to tell them Pat & Matt sent you!Want to stay up to date on the latest news and happenings here at The History Things Podcast? Make sure to follow us on social media at @TheHistoryThingsPodcast (Facebook & Instagram) and to leave us a 5star rating and review on your favorite podcast app! All questions, comments, and compliments can be sent to HistoryThingsPodcast@gmail.comThanks for listening, we hope you enjoy the show!

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Overlanding the Trans-American Trail with Erick Huertas

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 15, 2021 54:25

In this episode of the Budget Overland Podcast, Benji and I have a great conversation with Erick Huertas Erick Huertas spent most of his childhood in Lancaster County Pennsylvania. Growingup in a low-income household, he developed a passion for the arts as a form ofexpression early on. Upon graduating High School, Erick enlisted in the United StatesNavy as a member of the esteemed Hospital Corps. As he began to travel the world as a young adult, he turned to photography to document his memories and the places he had traveled. While working as a healthcare worker in the fight against COVID, he purchased a LandRover LR3 as a ‘fixer-upper.' In the summer of 2021. He embarked on the famousTrans-American Trail, a 5,000-mile dirt road trail from Cape Hatteras, NC to the OregonDunes. Erick spent 86 Days on the road and traveled across 33 states and 13,000 milesduring his westward journey. Documenting his journey in a handwritten journal andtaking photos on his iPhone, he will be featured in “Land Rover Owner International” inFebruary 2022. Erick's moderate success through his trail encouraged him to take photography moreseriously. Erick soon purchased a camera and enrolled in The University ofWashington's Professional Photography Certificate. Through the Guru Shots PhotoCompetitions, he has been featured in 11 exhibitions and three magazines. Currently, he writes for LRO and “Rover Depot” documenting his expeditions. Erick also shoots stock photography for Alamy and iStock, a subsidiary of Getty Images.Erick hopes to blend his passions of Photography and writing with his passion formedicine as he aspires to work for Médecins Sans Frontières (Doctors Without Borders). In addition to being a student of Photography and Nursing, he studies French, Germanand Arabic. Erick has a strong belief that language and art are some of the best ways inconnecting across different cultures.Connect with Erick:Social: @wandering_lottieEmail: erickhuertas0@gmail.comwww.flickr.com/people/erickhuertas //////////////////ATTENTION////////////UPDATE BELOW///////////////////Hello, and welcome to the Budget Overland Podcast. Created by Jay and Benji in November 2021. Fast forward to April 2023, Jay and Benji parted ways. Not to worry Benji did a re-boot and skipped to season 3. BOP now has two show a week, Monday & Thursday! Out of respect fo////////////|||\\\Voicemail Hotline+01-314-266-9536LISTENER DISCOUNT CODES:MOORE Expo "BUDGETOVER10" 10% offDevos "BOGOODS" 10% offMORRFlate "BUDGET" 15% offOverland Spices "BOSPICE" 10% offWhiskey & Wilderness "BO10" 10% offBigfoot Blankets "BO10" 10% offLonesome Adv "BO10" 10% offLinks to BO YouTube, Facebook, Instagram and Store go tohttps://www.budgetoverlandportal.com/ Become a BO Supporter! https://www.patreon.com/budgetoverland**Go to Apple Podcast and leave BOP a review! You will automatically be entered for our "Super Swag Pack Giveaway" We announce a winner every 50 Reviews! **Join the monthly "Insider Deals" email, where we partner with companies once a month with discounts on gear! https://www.budgetoverlandportal.com/***A special thanks to my BO PATRONS: Thank You!Joe GWandering PossumBrandon DillowChad LansingShane DeibertJay-Are SmithJimmy Jet -ST4x4ORP

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Overlanding the Trans-American Trail with Erick Huertas

The History of the Americans

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 15, 2021 54:21

In this episode of the Budget Overland Podcast, Benji and I have a great conversation with Erick Huertas Erick Huertas spent most of his childhood in Lancaster County Pennsylvania. Growing up in a low-income household, he developed a passion for the arts as a form of expression early on. Upon graduating High School, Erick enlisted in the United States Navy as a member of the esteemed Hospital Corps. As he began to travel the world as a young adult, he turned to photography to document his memories and the places he had traveled. While working as a healthcare worker in the fight against COVID, he purchased a Land Rover LR3 as a ‘fixer-upper.' In the summer of 2021. He embarked on the famous Trans-American Trail, a 5,000-mile dirt road trail from Cape Hatteras, NC to the Oregon Dunes. Erick spent 86 Days on the road and traveled across 33 states and 13,000 miles during his westward journey. Documenting his journey in a handwritten journal and taking photos on his iPhone, he will be featured in “Land Rover Owner International” in February 2022. Erick's moderate success through his trail encouraged him to take photography more seriously. Erick soon purchased a camera and enrolled in The University of Washington's Professional Photography Certificate. Through the Guru Shots Photo Competitions, he has been featured in 11 exhibitions and three magazines. Currently, he writes for LRO and “Rover Depot” documenting his expeditions. Erick also shoots stock photography for Alamy and iStock, a subsidiary of Getty Images. Erick hopes to blend his passions of Photography and writing with his passion for medicine as he aspires to work for Médecins Sans Frontières (Doctors Without Borders). In addition to being a student of Photography and Nursing, he studies French, German and Arabic. Erick has a strong belief that language and art are some of the best ways in connecting across different cultures. Connect with Erick: Social: @wandering_lottie Email: erickhuertas0@gmail.com www.flickr.com/people/erickhuertas Benji Ward is the founder of FB Budget Overland and co-host of the Budget Overland podcast. Benji is an off-road enthusiast, entrepreneur, and has been involved in the automotive industry for the past ten years. He enjoys spending quality time with his wife and son, exploring God's creations, and sharing tips and tricks along the way for overlanding. Jay Tiegs is co-host of the Budget Overland podcast, a 26 year veteran of the U.S. Army, outdoor enthusiast, and endurance athlete. He is passionate about outdoor adventure travel in his Toyota 4Runner and loves sharing his experiences to encourage others to get outside. If you enjoy the podcast, would you please consider leaving a short review on Apple Podcasts/ITunes? Your feedback is important to me and it would also take less than 60 seconds and make a difference in getting those hard to get guests as we expand our reach. Join the Budget Overland Facebook Community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/312054236893725 Watch the Budget Overland Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCcro_9fySgsgZiwO1E1lj1g Contact/Follow Benji: Instagram: @slow.yota Email: Budgetoverlandofficial@gmail.com Connect with Jay: Website: www.jaytiegs.com Facebook: www.facebook.com/sjtiegs LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/jay-tiegs YouTube: www.youtube.com/user/jaytiegs Instagram: www.instagram.com/jaytiegs

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Set Fair For Roanoke Part 2

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 2, 2021

Sir Walter Ralegh's first attempt to settle the Outer Banks of North Carolina -- the first Roanoke colony, under the command of Sir Richard Grenville -- got off to a rough start. A storm off Portugal had scattered the fleet, and only Grenville's Tiger and Thomas Cavendish's Elizabeth made it to the agreed interim rendezvous on the southwestern coast of Puerto Rico. Grenville and Cavendish replenished the fleet with Spanish prizes, and eventually got to Cape Hatteras only to lose most of the colony's supplies when the Tiger ran aground trying to enter Pamlico Sound. We also discuss the "Black Legend" debate, the revisionist view that anti-Spanish propaganda by English and Dutch Protestants unfairly influenced much of the image of the Spanish empire, and how two things can be true at once. The featured image for this episode is Sir Richard Grenville at age 29. Selected references for this episode James Horn, A Kingdom Strange: The Brief and Tragic History of the Lost Colony of Roanoke David Beers Quinn, Set Fair for Roanoke: Voyages and Colonies, 1584-1606 Black Legend (Spain) Alan Sherman, "Good Advice"

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Episode 398: Cape Hatteras Lighthouse (Entry 182.PS4303)

Omnibus! With Ken Jennings and John Roderick

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 30, 2021 69:09

In which erosion on North Carolina's Outer Banks prompts the government to move a twelve-story lighthouse half a mile inland, and Ken is in favor of shipwrecks when the ships are bad. Certificate #6374.

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Episode 23: Cape Hatteras

Civil War Weekly

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 22, 2021 23:17

Episode 23 will include the naval action at Cape Hatteras as well as a brief rundown of the Confederate and Union navy. https://cwweeklypod.wixsite.com/my-site Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/CWweeklypod Venmo: @Timothy-Patrick-48 --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/civil-war-weekly/support

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Cape Hatteras Light

In The Beacons Light

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 20, 2021 9:21

The tallest free-standing lighthouse in America is on the Outer Banks of North Carolina's Cape Hatteras. 268 steps to the top is all it takes to be able to enjoy an incredible birds-eye view of the cape.

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Sea Turtles of Cape Hatteras National Seashore

America's National Parks Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 13, 2021 13:18

Under the light of the moon, shelled creatures emerge from the ocean and make their way onto the sandy shoreline. They drag their bodies through the sand until one by one, they stop. Each migrant reptile will use her back flippers to dig a hole in the sand, depositing up to 100 eggs before covering them again for protection. The new mother will then follow the moonlight back into the safety of the ocean. It's early summer along this seashore, and something spectacular is occurring: it's sea turtle nesting season along the Outer Banks in North Carolina. A couple of months later, tiny turtles will emerge from the sand and their shells and begin the seemingly impossible journey back into the ocean, on the same sand their mother did years or even decades earlier. Although they face many challenges, these magnificent creatures are worth protecting. This week on America's National Parks: the sea turtles of Cape Hatteras National Seashore.

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1788: Hurricane over George Washington's Mt. Vernon

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Play Episode Listen Later Jul 23, 2021 2:44

On July 23, 1788 after causing ship disasters southeast of Bermuda, a hurricane moved northwestward over the tidewater area of Virginia, and right over George Washington's Mt. Vernon Plantation. At Ocracoke Inlet, southwest of Cape Hatteras, 6 ships were wrecked and 11 were driven ashore with 2 dismasted. As the storm center passed just to the east of this point, the wind shifted. This caught ships unaware and added to the disaster. An account from Norfolk stated that: "at 3am the wind suddenly shifted from northeast to south and blew a perfect hurricane - tearing up large trees by the roots, removing houses, throwing down chimney, fences, and laying the greatest part of the corn level." The following day on July 24th, George Washington wrote in his diary: "about noon the wind suddenly shifted from northeast to southwest and blew the remaining part of the day violently from that quarter. The tide this time rose higher than it was ever known to do, driving boats, etc. into fields where no tide had ever been heard of before, and must, it is apprehended, have done infinite damage on their wharves at Alexandria, Norfolk, Baltimore, etc. At home all day." It would take more than a year to repair the damage to those ports. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

#15 Keeper James - Shipwrecks Of The Outer Banks

Outer Banks Podcast - Presented By Seaside Vacations

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 16, 2021 47:42

The Outer Banks Podcast, presented by SEASIDE VACATIONS. On this episode of the podcast we talk with James Charlet author of “Shipwrecks of the Outer Banks: Dramatic Rescues and Fantastic Wrecks in the Graveyard of the Atlantic.” Keeper James tells us how the Outer Banks has become the Graveyard of the Atlantic, how the crisis of shipwreck after shipwreck was answered with the formation of the little known US Life-Saving Service, and why ship captains across the country dreaded traveling near the Outer Banks' Cape Hatteras. We also talk about the Outer Banks involvement with the Titanic and much more. If you have ever been interested in shipwrecks this podcast is a must listen. Rent an Outer Banks beach home here: https://www.outerbanksvacations.com Keeper James website: http://www.keeperjames.com Keeper James Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KeeperJamesOBX US Life-Saving Station Chicamacomico historic site website: https://chicamacomico.org Graveyard Of The Atlantic Museum: https://graveyardoftheatlantic.com

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Damien Leroy and Gwen Le Tutour Blue Planet Show wing foil interview #13

The Blue Planet Show

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 19, 2021 82:35

Damien Leroy and Gwen Le Tutour have been on a roll, posting two great instructional videos per week and helping lots of people getting started in the sport. They are humble but are clearly exceptional humans and motivated by a desire to help people. Interview transcript: Hello friends. It's Robert Stehlik. Welcome to another episode of the blue planet show. in today's show. I'm interviewing Damien Leroy and Gwen Le Tutour. We talked about their background, how they got into watersports, wing foil technique and equipment, what inspires them, and how they love to share their stoke with others, watch it here on YouTube. Or you can listen to it as an audio only podcast, just search for "Blue Planet Show" in your favorite podcast app. Today is June 19th, 2021. And this month you've been posting two videos. Every day. One video is part of our video contest and one of our blue planet videos. So I hope you can join us for the daily videos contest and our blue planet daily videos. We're going to decide the contest winner on August 14th with a $2,000 price. So to enter, please check out the link below. And send it to your submission. Today's guest Damien, and when are amazing human beings, they're very humble, but I'm stoked to have him on the show. If you've winged foiled at all. You've probably seen some of their great, amazing instructional videos. They do a great service for the sport. And so without further ado, here are Damien and Gwen, Damien and Gwen, welcome to the Blue Planet Show. Thanks so much for joining me. Let's get started a little bit with your background. Maybe Damien, tell us a little bit about, how, where you grew up and how you got into water sports and all that. One, thanks so much for having us and we appreciated and how I got into water sports. Technically I've been in water sports since I was like two, but I grew up a ski racer in Colorado, which was on snow a little bit different, but truthfully. Really get involved with the water. Much until my like teens. I was training in Mount hood, Oregon, and I would go to the Gorge. I'm sorry, I'd go to the coast and boogie board. And I thought surfing was way too hard. And boogie board was like the coolest thing ever. And yeah, it just more from there. I saw kite surfing. I was a big ski racer. And kite surfing was the unknown and yeah, I that's kinda what got me into it was ski racing, seeing it in hood river training at the gore training in Mount hood and visiting the Gorge. And I had some injuries, he racing and went to Florida, Naples, Florida. And my best friend in Naples was flying one of these kites. And I didn't know him at the time and I walked up and he just handed it over and he's oh, you gotta try this. I was just like, whoa, what is this? And for that's where it started truthfully. I'd say how long ago was that when you got into college? Ah, man, that's I was 18, so for like close to 21 years ago. Yeah, it was at the beginning. Things were super, truthfully, even in the Gorge, people wouldn't talk about it. It was all wind surfing and you'd see one or two guys, which for sure was probably like Corey Rosler and maybe Lou like visiting or something, but nobody was doing it. Nobody would do lessons, nobody would talk about it. And and my buddy in Naples happened to buy a kite and just learn on his own and it was awesome. And then I got connected with Cabrina right in the beginning and was just been super blessed ever since. And I've been riding with that company for a long time and just incredible family, credible group of people and just super grateful because I was able to become moral champion and do all sorts of things in the sport. But more than that, I was able to give back and. Share the knowledge that I've learned throughout my incredible adventures. I'm now back with people, which is the most rewarding thing you can do. And I read that at one point you were kiteboarding world champion. Yeah. I just did everything. I tried everything so racing and speed and freestyle, big air and way everything. You just do it all when you're just into it. And I won a solemn, a world championship which was racing around some buoys in Spain and yeah, for me, I just always wanted to challenge myself. That was it. So as long as I could keep challenging myself, I would stay excited about the sport. So it didn't matter what I was doing. I was always excited about it versus I see a lot of people get really hooked on freestyle and then they just burn out and, ends quick. So for me, I was lucky to get into foils and just always keep trying something different. Cool. So where did you grow up in Colorado? I was born here and Vail, Colorado. And then I moved when I was 10. We had a fly fishing business in Alaska, so it halfway in the summer I would work with my family and Alaska fly fishing, which was a business we own. And then half the summer I would train in Mount hood. And then I just, we moved everywhere, Idaho, Montana. You name it all over the world, so we're very, it was exciting time and I'm very grateful and it was a neat childhood and hopefully I can share it with my new little baby girl. Awesome. So you have, you're married and have a daughter or? Yeah, I just had a little two month old little nugget and she is just. I don't know, everybody tells you and I'll say it to everybody out there, you don't know until you have a child, but, I was so driven in all these directions, do all this stuff. And when you have this like thing that you created and for sure there's, lack of sleep, but it's the most beautiful thing you could ever do. Awesome. Yeah. All right. Thanks for sharing that. What about you, Glen? Can you tell us a little bit about your background? Yeah I grew up in France and in Brittany next to the ocean. So I grew up surfing and wind surfing my browser got me into it. And then when I graduated from college and I was about to travel for work that's when I started kite surfing, because wind surfing was just like, I don't know, but at the time if you were a windsurfer, there was I dunno, you had your community and you maybe didn't really want to transition kiteboarding. But for me, I had always been very interested in what it took was just like traveling and be like, okay, I need to like, be able to, like travel whiskey and make it a lot more convenient. So that's when I started. Guide thing. And I was working as a Marine engineer, so on ships traveling around the world and I've always been really passionate about the ocean. And so I really wanted in everything I do, I want to use my skills in a way that easier help people or help the planet. And so as a Marine engineer, I joined a nonprofit called . It's a conservation ocean conservation, nonprofit, and that's when I left France and went to Australia to work on the ships and I met a girl, I didn't speak English at the time. I'm in a girl, an American girl, she's now my wife. And that's how I ended up in the U S so I never imagined I would come to the us. I remember growing up. Like looking at magazines and how why and all of that. And I was like, just dreaming and and then, like seeing my life now it's like unreal, but everything started all there was a huge shift when I met Damian. So last year I was living in Idaho and because my wife is from there and I came to Florida to buy a van. And I had been following Damien for awhile on, on Instagram. And I reached out to him. I was into videography, either video, refu business in Idaho. And I was like, Hey do you want to make a video? I'm going to be here for two days. But I was thinking like this guy is we're a champion. Like he's not going to reply to like me. A video of refer from Idaho, but your dad, he replied, he was like super nice. And he was like, yeah, like for sure let's do it. So we made a video and I edited it and then Damon loved it. And I was like, okay, I sing there is more to do. So we were really aligned in, in our values in and you, our mission which to me is always using my skills in whatever I do to, to help and to make it like meaningful. So we really connected. And then that's when we started to work on some videos together to really help people, especially, it was the perfect timing when winning was like picking up. So we were like, let's create something to help people whinging and living their best life. Like we do. This was back like, so when did you guys meet? That was about a year ago. You said that was last year in September and that's when we met, but then I went back to Idaho and and then came back in three, nine in December. Okay. And so before that, you also did a video videography for like wind surfing, kite surfing, things like that. Yeah, I would say not I was always just most of my business was just videography and I was taking, anything. Being based in Idaho, I was a lot of, it was not involving what your spot, but when I would travel to Maui I connected with people. I would always try to that was my passion, but when I met Damian, he just took it to the next level. Yeah, I think I saw somewhere too, that you were into ultra running and things like that, like during sports, is that right? Yeah. Yeah. I did a lot of things in my life firefighting. I was in the military and I did love stuff. And then running, I took running because I was based like for a while I was like away from the ocean and I needed something to do. And running was like the most conveniencing because you can do it anywhere. So I picked up running and not being like so passionate about running, but I was like, how can I challenge my. Was running that's pretty much, what I can do right now. And so I did a lot of or like I did a few, like a hundred mile races, which is very challenging, but it's a great experience where you find yourself in a hundred mile race. For sure. Robert, I have to try him in Glen, ran a hundred miles in firefighting outfit. I'm just letting you know, on a hundred miles in for firefighting. That's hard core. So when you met Damian at you, you had already had a YouTube channel and you've been actively making videos for a while, right? Or was that kind of a new thing? Yeah, no, I had been oh you talked to. Oh, it was just, both of you, but yeah, it was funny cause yeah, to build that kind of a YouTube following and stuff like that, it takes usually takes more than a year. Just wondering before, before you guys met what were you doing? And yeah, for me, I, my whole career was obviously competing in the beginning and as a competitor, any young athlete out there, there's always somebody good coming along, so you gotta keep your options open. And for me, I got into sales right away and became a sales rep for some brands. And so I was still competing and working. So I had a full-time job, but I also was still competing and it was a perfect match because it makes you work hard at what you do. And also you get the reward of playing and doing the best you can do competitive. And YouTube. Yes I had a YouTube channel forever. I had all the social media is you have when you're an athlete, never anything big on YouTube. I just did it to do it. I loved making videos. It was like a passion of mine, but I wasn't never had enough time and was working probably most of the time. And so I enjoyed capturing unique angles or unique things or building new mounts or capturing something different. That's where my passion was. And I was lucky to ride for companies like GoPro and connect and do really cool things. But my YouTube thing was never a thing. And When I ran into Gwen, he said it best, and that was our personalities. Like we're in sync. We just were out to help people in my whole entire life has been that and to be able to share and give people their best life and motivate people and get them out and get them up off the couch. And even if it's the simplest thing, it may not be wing surfing or whatever it may be, but just to motivate people to get out. I think a lot of people think athletes or, wealthy people or whatever it may be. Don't struggle, everybody struggles. And it's a matter of just surrounding yourself with good people and taking the step to get over that problem, whatever it may be drinking or depression or who knows. And so that, that's what stems this and Gwen is, just the perfect fit of somebody who's same motivation. W we can go to the beach and bang out 10 videos and just have so much information because we're so passionate about it because we know it helps people. And that's really it. If it helps one person it's good enough for us, and for sure, we'd love to help as many people as we can. And it's a privilege to be able to work for somebody like Gwen. Who's so passionate. And truthfully, I'd say in four months, we. In four months, we created a YouTube channel for sure. It was, I think my YouTube channel was many years old, but just never did anything with it. And now our goal is to help people and inspire. Yeah, it's awesome. I really like you're all thinking about sharing the love and happiness and stuff like that, it's a pretty big goal, but I think, obviously with that kind of passion and enthusiasm you guys have for it it's great to see that. And and yeah, I really good quality tutorials too, that you guys put together a nice cinematography and all that stuff. And I've been doing that too for a long time and some help, but obviously you guys are doing kind kinda on a whole nother level. I think like just, really good quality and it's not easy to do, and it's not like you make a ton of money. Posting free videos on YouTube. Sometimes people think that YouTube is get paid millions of dollars. Like some of the guys do, but not at the level we're at right. It's probably just enough to buy all the gear that you need to buy. think we're probably still in the hole for sure. But this is a passion project for both of us, for sure. And in Gwen's truly the just incredible, he sees the, he sees it all and puts it together and I'm just OCD and I just can't stop talking. So that's about it. I think what was special when I met Damien I was only like we, we had together for just one weekend when we first met and what kind of what I found like special was like, the man was like, so like connected with everybody at the beach. And I think that. That's that's when I saw like the potential of of just like being able to help people on, on, on any level, because sometime, if you are like like Damien, like world-class rider world champion, you might be a bit disconnected from the people at the beach, but Damien is so like you go to the beach and the man is always going to be helping anybody. I think the first weekend, like there was a guy that he was getting into. And had maybe some issue with his foil and Damien went to him and help him getting his full set up. And I'm like, this guy is we're on champion and a rock staff, and he's going to help a guy that, it's, I think to me that was like very special. And I was like, okay, if we are going to be able to do something like very special and help people and it's going to be meaningful, yeah. Awesome. Yeah. You guys doing a great job, so actually let's talk a little bit about kinda getting into wing foiling and common issues. People that people have and like tips for beginners, basically, people that want to get into it. They're not really sure what to do. And what do you tell people that are just starting. I would just say, for anybody out there look, everything you, you do in life. That's new, you're unsure. So like you've got to take a chance and all I'd say is most people that take a chance with this, they actually really enjoy it. And I would say, just get yourself a wing and you can play with it on the beach. You can play with it anywhere. There's wind on land, board, skateboards, snow water, sup you don't need to buy all this stuff right away. Just get yourself a wing and start playing with it. And to me, your kids can play with it. You can jump off stuff obviously within reason. But yeah, that's kinda, my, my tip is just give it a shot. It's I think you'll be shocked with what can, what doors it can open. That's my first piece of advice. Yeah. So we're just watching this video here on YouTube. Obviously it's good to just watch a lot of your instructional videos before trying it. But I think a lot of times, yeah, the, one of the mistakes that people make is this going in the water right away before they learn basically to handle the wing and they think they can just do it. And then, every time you fall in getting back on the board and you get really tired quickly, and then you can't, it's hard to learn that on the water. The more you can figure out the wing handling on land the better. And, but what are some pointers you have? It seems like beginners always have a hard time with the catching, the tip of the wing and then the wing flipping over how do you coach people to avoid it? Yeah, I think the biggest tip that we have passed around, that's a very helpful for everybody is we always just say whatever direction you're going, punch the water or punch, punch the ground. And what that does with your backhand is make that wing fly. Because most people just pull in, it's I'd say kite surfing or other things, everybody's reaction is to pull in and if you actually steer your back, hit back hand, it makes that wing fly above your head. So it has a lot to do with just slowing down your front hand and steering with your backhand, but we always would say, punch the water, punch the ground. If you're, if you feel like that wing tip is going to catch, cause all you're really doing is just turning that wing to lift up. And that was a really helpful one. And I'll be Frank with everybody. I struggled for three days straight and I consider myself pretty skilled and I got murdered at this. I didn't grow up wind surfing. So it was like all new to me. And I did exactly what you said. I went straight into the water and I was like, I can figure this out. And I couldn't even get up on the board cause I couldn't fly the wing. And it took that process of just getting beat to, to realize that I should fly the wing a little bit more and build my way into it. Yeah. It's probably something you just have to pretty much do as get humbled a little bit to start with, so maybe if you think you can just do it, just go in the water, get humbled a little bit and then you'll figure out that you should learn it on land for us. Like we don't really need to tell people that an interesting thing is in the video that's playing right now we see Damon and Carrie Kelly is my sister-in-law and Kelly grew up in Idaho. She has never done any water sports. She has never really been in the water. Like no surfing, no no wind. Nothing in the water. And when I came here I started winging and she got interested and she wanted to learn and now she's doing it and it's been, yeah, it's been like about five months. And, but within three months, like she was like up and falling both ways. And she learned falling with the wing. Sometime the easiest way is definitely falling or I'll behind a boat, which to just, she just went straight to the wing. And so that, it shows that it's possible. You don't have to have experience doing something else, but for sure don't expect this to be easy. It's helpful anybody, but the truth is if you put in the time and you keep trying and you go and, whenever you can, you will get it at some point. So for sure, Yeah. It's not an easy sport to learn, but it's definitely not impossible to learn, obviously. Especially if you have, some instructions and stuff like that, people. Yeah. It's funny. Cause people, when they start to foil, they always think oh yeah, I watched a bunch of videos, so I can see what they're doing. I can do it. And especially people that already know how to surf and stuff like that. And then they pretty much get humbled the first time they try it, it's definitely not, it's definitely very different from surfing. And and even with the wind surfing background and knowing how to foil already, it took me a while to learn it. Although I think for me, because I already knew how to foil and I could wind surf, it was a pretty quick learning curve, but yeah. If you have no experience with any wind sports and so on, then yeah. It's not, it's basically like you have to learn two things, foiling and weight when you're handling together. Yeah, for sure. And Gwen, he was funny when I first met him literally the day I met him, I think I gave him my winger. He's never tried it. And I'm like, I don't know. This guy seems awesome. Super genuine. I was like, take my gear and I, and it was blowing like 30 knots. He just went and he gave it a shot and that's how it started. It was awesome. That's awesome. Yeah, to me like the most important, when you do anything is like going out there and doing it. I never wait until things are perfect to study, it's if you want to get into running but you, I'm not gonna go on the run until you have the, the new shoes, the GPS watch the running shorts. For me, I'm like I want to start running. Okay. Let's do it. And maybe I'm going to go out with the wrong shoes. Okay. I figure it out on the way and along the way I make it better, but. Sometime I think one mistake that can be done is just never starting because of waiting to have every single line up perfectly. I think to me it's better to stop and have the wrong gear, have the wrong condition, but go out there and learning by making mistakes is actually a great way to learn. Yeah. Yeah. I know. It definitely sometimes people, and I think the same is true with being on YouTube. Sometimes people think they have to have a recording studio and perfect camera gear and whatever. But really a lot of times, like the way I started it was just like shooting some phones. Shooting some videos on an iPhone and then posting it. And it was, it's more about the con creating content that, that is helpful to people I think is the most important thing, really, not having perfect video, but you guys definitely do a good job on both sides. And actually, so Gwen, I'm gonna stop the screen share on here for a minute, but for you, it's, I think 6:00 PM here in Hawaii, it's like noontime. So it's a little bit early to drink beer, but I noticed that you showed us the beer can earlier. So can you, so this is really cool. It's a Cabrina drift and BU it's a collaboration between Airstory brewery based in Charleston and Cabrina, and basically it's a program called project. So it's a it's a project called new found freedom. And basically it's to help people with disabilities maybe amputee or mental disabilities or any kind of disability to help them get it. Guiding and whinging. Or the prostate from GSBM is going to to finance this project. And so last weekend we were actually in Charleston and it was a 11 participant, a lot of them from special forces they've got hurt and maybe he's yeah, like missing a leg, two legs and we got them into guiding and winging and it was like, amazing. So yeah, this is just to, to finance this project. And it should be available in many places. But for now I think you would have to go to the brewery as story. It's a story. Yeah, it's for a brewery company in China. Yeah, that's sounds great. Earlier I heard like birds chirping and stuff like that. Are you like in the forest or something like that? It sounds like you're like out in nature or something. Yeah, I'm outside on the deck. But I'm here in Cape Hatteras with even niche from Cabrina. We are filming some content with Kia, he and yeah, a bunch of writers. I saw he a couple of weeks ago on the north shore. He's so he's in on the east coast now? Yes, he's here. He's here we are. Yeah. We are like doing some filming and unfortunately this week we have no wind, but hopefully wind picks up. Okay. How come Damian's not. He didn't make, he didn't make the cups. Okay. All right. Let's talk a little bit about then more advanced stuff in wing filing. So I saw you recently just posted a video on doing three sixties, so I'm gonna, I'm going to pull that one up here, how to do a 360 video. So yeah, let's talk a little bit about the progression and tricks you're working on and maybe walk us through this one. Yeah. I just down the street 60 I, I Damien get me into trying new stuff and actually like the funniest thing is often when we make a video about something, I'm filming I'm behind the camera, but I actually learn a lot from just filming it and then I go out there and I try it. Like we made a video recently was how to work the dog guiding it's when you dumb your kid in the water, you're falling, you dumb the cat and you keep writing it and you launched a guide again. I filmed it and then right after they in was like, all right. And then. When it's going to go out there and try it. And that was not even like part of the plan. He just said it at the end of the video. But then I went out there and tried it. So yeah it's really fun. Like filming was Damon act or sold them a lot of stuff. And I go out there and try it. Yeah. That's awesome. I just saw Damien, you have your it's your daughter, right? This is a, the reason why I'm not up and the truth is Gwen's been teaching me stuff. So he's actually teaching Evan, everything up there, but really what is taking over, he is the cream of the crop, a father. This is a little Ava, she's our little nugget and I'm super blessed. I have a wonderful family, beautiful wife. And yeah so Gwen's teaching Kiani and a few things. So when you have kids also, you're fine. No. I'm I'm married, but no kids. No. Okay. Yeah. I find whenever you have I talked to about this about with keen to wild as well, and you said that when you talk about weed foiling and get all into it and think about it, stuff like that then, and then you get on the water. It's everything comes easier if you have that, the right mindset to start with. So we're talking about if you're on the way to the beach, listening to a podcast or something, or like a conversation like this kind of gets your mind in the right place and gets you stoked. And then probably the same thing when you're shooting a video and then getting the instructions and then trying it for real. So you guys have been making pretty quick progress with the wing flow. You know what I mean? Like we were saying, we were talking about how it's not that easy to learn, but once you figure it out and you progress pretty rapidly, it seems what do you agree with that? Yeah. I, here's what I would say. And, we spoke a little bit about it, but I would say there's a lot of people that are nervous about going to the beach and struggling and looking bad because they may have been a good kite surfer or maybe a good something, whatever. They're just worried about looking bad. And I always am like, okay, everybody's been there, so just go be there and you'll progress. And I say that truthfully in the best thing you can do is just go talk to people because everybody's usually willing to help or give a tip because they like to share the same passion. You, myself, Gwen, everybody likes to share information and help somebody. So I think you'd be surprised and maybe a lot of people are shy to talk to somebody. And I would always say, man, talk to people, ask questions and just watch it learn. Maybe you'll get some information, but I would say yes. The wing foiling sport is just evolving super fast. The first thing I wanted to do right off the bat was backflips and I'm still working on the backflip because. It's one of the scariest tricks that I've done, period, across the board in everything I've ever done, just cause it's I don't know you, the Chi you can hang from things. The wing is just I feel like there's just nothing there to hang you. So it's pretty wild if it goes wrong, but it's the sport's evolving incredibly fast. You're doing it in places nobody would think. And you're pulling surfers in that are foiling, and now they're like it's windy. Why not get a wing? So it's completely doable. And intercostals lakes, gusty places, mountains, absolutely endless. So that's why it's super unique. And it's just a great thing. You can share it with the whole family. Yeah. I think there is like a unique like opportunity right now to get into winging. And the amazing thing is, most people are like getting into winning, so everybody's progressing together. It's a new spot. So I think it's really fun, like right now to get into it because you figure out things like in the same time as everybody, where if you maybe sat in 10 years then, yes, there would be like more resources to progress, but I think it's really fun to be like progressing as the sport is progressing as well. For sure. And just to have the gear improving so much, like the foils are getting and the wings are getting so much better so quickly. So actually, so let's talk a little bit about the equipment. So let's start with the foils, like what kind of foils do you use and where do you recommend starting on and what are you using now? And what's the progression. Yeah. That's a loaded question. I would say look I w personally I love, I think Cabrina foils and lift walls. There. There's some my favorite foils in the industry, for sure. I would recommend to most people out there, we live in Florida. So winds are a little bit lighter, but I would even say no matter where you are in the world, it wouldn't hurt to have a wing around, call it the two fifty three hundred or 2000 square centimeter or bigger wing, which is a very large wing. And the reason why is, if you're not very good, you're at least going to have a wing that kind of gets you up the soonest as possible. The other kind of big mistake, a lot of people make is maybe they have a 12 foot board and there they throw a foil on it, and they're really struggling to even get up when it's windy. And the truth is you have a huge surface area that's sticking to the water. So you actually want the shortest thing you can get within reason with high volume or high leader. So you can actually stand on it and float and it's stable. That's the easiest, in my opinion, for learning for foil and board, as far as wings, the good Brina wings I think are absolutely awesome. We have two different versions and personally I like them both. I think the X two has incredible low end. So the sixes and sevens are incredible in the low end. And then the mantis is. Wave riding efficient machine, for sure. But I think, truthfully, I'd say wings, you could just get your hands on something and go for it is definitely, it changes things up. As you get better, you go to smaller foils. And poor Gwen. I throw everything at him. I'm like, try this, do this. Do I need to just whoa wow. Look at this. And he's doing all these tricks and I don't know. It's pretty wild to see how he went from. Here's a wing Gwen, try it in 30 knots and it's probably too big, but that's all we had. And now he's like doing three sixties and he's learning everything. And then he learned the 360 videos coming soon. But 180 360, I don't even know what it's called. Awesome. Yeah. So wait, what is that move? You're talking about, the hour drive. So the funny thing is, the funny thing is, right now for winging like tricks you don't find a lot of videos. And when I feel. On the outdrive. I actually didn't really know that there was a trick and that's just something, a transition that I would do guide falling. And I was like, ah, I think I could do it with a wing, so I just tried it. And then later I found on YouTube oh it's called now drive. And there was a video about it. So I watch it and it definitely helped me. So now we made a video about it because we just didn't like that move. And so it's fresh now mine and they can, we can really give good tips to people. But the next thing that we need to tackle is the flakka and Daniel has been like different. They're like doing it like the past. I don't know, like a couple of weeks he has been like landing like so many. The next video coming would be the flagger. Yeah, I finally is just starting to figure out how to land them, but I've done like probably hundreds of them where I crashed. So for some reason I have, so what's the secret to pulling off the landing with the wing? It seems like it's always hard to get the wing right on the landing for me. Yeah, I would say so my tips for the flakka would be, and I'm not a professional yet at it, but I would say I was always trying to just go massive. So I was just trying to do a massive 180 and truthfully, I would say I know in anything learning, I would always take small steps. So I would say, just get the full out of the water. Flip your board. One eight. And you don't need to go massive. You're just trying to get emotion and learn the most motions. If you can get the board to go 180, the next tip is when you swing that wing across into the wind, you want to try to have it as level with the horizon and actually pull your front hand close to you, which kind of levels the wing off. I would always keep it out in front of me and it just, you just get back winded and just get, smoked and flip over. But I would say just, really think of the, how the air works, hitting the wing, and I think that'll really change it. The next best thing I would say is man, try it like 50 times on the beach. Cause you're going to really learn what to do or what not to do with that wing when you spin it across. And in the wind. Yeah, the tip that gunner gave me that really helped is just to keep the wing at keep it at the level of your head that don't get it up here, keep it like this. And then that way you can spin it around. You pretty much have to bring the wind through the wind. You can't really do it over your head. Cause then it just close you backwards. Yeah. So it's like keeping the wing load. That seems to have helped me in that. And then, like you said too, like not doing like a huge air, you don't have to be super high for it. That's it. That's a good tip too. And then spinning the board first and then having everything else. Follow it. Yeah. Yeah. Just build your way into it. I think when I first saw Gwen and showed a video or something, I was like, oh my gosh, that thing's sick. The first thing I do is try to do in the air. Cause I'm like, for sure I can do three sixties all the time. Total wipe out. And I was like, okay, maybe I should build my life. So yeah, it's fun. It's fun for us. We're learning too, and that's such a passion for us because it's, every day you can learn something new and then you get to share it with people and share your mistakes, which is brilliant because that's, we're making every mistake, just like everybody else. And our goal is to be like, we did all this wrong. Sure. Try this. Cool. So what about boards? What kind of boards are you using and what was the progression on the boards of what do you recommend for beginners? And then how do you progress to where you are now? Yeah, I would say bores a totally recommend I would say general size, I would say for beginner would be anywhere from five, four to I dunno, six. Five maybe. And I say that's a little bit longer, but I say it because there are a lot of people that are very large out there and you want to make sure it's within reason to them. But I would say leader wise, I would say is the most important and with like stability. So I would say anywhere from a hundred leaders, if you're, I would say 185 pounds, that's pretty solid all the way up to, if you're 250 pounds, we're talking 130 plus leaderboard, just to give you that stability, to learn the sport a lot easier now, as you get better, that boards here's what I would say too. That's super important as you get better. Yes. You can go to all the small boards and do all the tricks, but I would even say for most people, those boards are absolutely perfect for your longevity. And the reason I say that is every day you can go and if it loads out or the wind dies, you're still milking your wing in and you're standing there going, if you have a synchronous. You're swinging them back. So you're always up and doing it versus climbing up or trying to get up. And that's very helpful. As far as like my favorite boards, I would say the Kareena macros are awesome. Lyft has an amazing wean boards as well, but I would say it's just coming up with the right size for your weight. And for me, I'm 155 pounds. And I would say to stand on around 70 liters is perfect for me to fully stand the balance on it and go. And then I would say obviously you can go a lot smaller all the way down to 28 liter boards, but it's definitely changes everything. Yeah. I meant to go on a tiny sinker board. You have to have steady strong winds. So it's hard to do that with when the wind starts to drop off and stuff. Okay. So w where do you what does the future hold, like? Where do you see the sport going and what do you see for equipment? Do you have any ideas or things you would like to see in the future? I'll jump in quick and then I'll let him go ahead and jump in here. Cause I'm always talking. That's my issue. I'm sorry guys. But I, I was just talking to a guy on a phone yesterday and I see this at resorts. I know it sounds crazy ski resorts open area resorts snow, because the easiest way to learn this would be on the snow or the ice, like for sure, because you're actually, I would say land boarding, but I would even say if people ski or snowboard, it's the perfect way to learn it because you're early. Kind of going, you just stand there and there's no, there's not a lot of surface tension, so you can just go so you can learn the wing and you can actually do this. And I could see people going across sliders and hidden kickers. And I just see it, I see that potential, but I would say the biggest thing it does, that's super unique to me is it takes places that you never thought you would ever wing an opportunity to go play. And what I mean by that is kitesurfing you, professionals can get into some pretty crazy places in gusty winds, but I would say the winging, you can go anywhere and you can really, it opens the doors to a lot of incredible opportunities. So I think this word is going to boom. For sure. Yeah, I was living in I'd hope before I came to Florida and I was guiding on the lake. It's a big lake and it's amazing, but people cannot get into cutting them because yeah, trees everywhere. The launch is super sketchy. There's no way you can learn. There is no beach, like it's right. Like the trees and then the water often the wind from where you have to stand from the wind is offshore. So you have, and then the wind drops and like you end up swimming with all Yogi. And that's where I see winging is going to be a game changer. So like in places like this, like a mountain now people are not going to be able to stop winging because it's a lot safer. If the wind dies, you Alan's is big bone. You can swim back. No problem. If it's gusty, no problem. It's gonna open definitely like new locations and make it possible to a lot of people that would have never considered guiding is intimidating. And I think meaning is really gonna appeal to a lot more people just because we is, I wouldn't say it's easier, but I would say it's a lot safer when you talk a lot more big enough. Yeah, that's a good point. And actually I wanted to give a shout out to this, our, a YouTube watcher. His name is Joe skill, and he's a paraplegic. He's actually the one who said, I should interview you Damien and has been watching all your videos and all my videos. And he's totally into winning even though he's in a wheelchair. And so I wanted to ask you Glenn, like you said you when did that, with disabled people, so how do you get introduced to someone with that's a paraplegic? How do you introduce them to these sports? Yeah we, this weekend, this past weekend we had somebody that was missing two legs. And we just had him on the standup paddle. He was able to see it so he was just sitting on the standup paddle with the wing and and he had a lot of fun. For him it's something like he would have never considered. If you are already into like wing falling, you might think, okay. Doing the wing on the standup, other is not that fun, but for him, it was a an incredible experience that he would have never even been able to do it. He was also, we introduced him to cutting also, and he was doing body drag and had so much fun. So it's not about in this case it's not about having him like, okay. The only way to do it is having on the wing, up on the phone. No, there is in-between, there is a lot of way to do it. That is still going to be really fun for him because yeah, it being on the wetsuit, being connected with the wind and everything, it is an incredible. Yeah, that sounds great. I was also thinking, actually Joe was saying that he was thinking about doing it with a small wing in a sport wheelchair and just like on, on a parking lot or something like that. And that, that sounded interesting too, an interesting way to do it. Yeah, for sure. He'll be going and doing backflips in no time. Yeah. Sounds like he's into, so let's talk a little bit about the YouTube channel. So what are your goals? What's your strategy? What, I know you said you're putting out a new video twice a week. How do you do that and how do you keep that motivation to, to, I know it's a lot of work to write, to, to produce all the video and the editing and. Yeah. I would say the motivation we're we're we have plenty of motivation and I can go down and just unleash because there's so much information out there that we can share with people. And it's not that we can't, we just, anybody can really, and we just have the opportunity to be able to work good together. And I would say, truthfully, I've never met somebody. And like Gwen, because he's so quick and motivated and he sees the biggest thing. I would say that, that I would say most people struggle with in video is what is your direction? What is your goal? I would say Robert, you're actually brilliant at it, but you have a reason behind everything and you put it together and it's an, it's a presentation that people want. Capture that info Gwen, same thing. He has a vision when he makes a video it's going to be, this is the message. And I think that's the best thing you can have is just have an opening and middle and an end and a message. And so our goal is to share as much info with people. And I would say, there's days we go and we do, I think truthfully, our max day was 10 videos in a day, but in a four hour period now, is it all the footage in that day? No, we've captured the footage throughout times doing different things. But I would say, I think the motivation is there big time, because it's so exciting to hear people that just get, get, are living their best life because of it or just even if they gave it a shot and they're enjoying it and they're struggling, but they're enjoying it to us. That's everything. Just the. Life is about living. It's hard to get up sometimes and it's hard to, look at the positives. And I think that's the reason why we're trying to pump them out as many as we can to just help people. Yeah. So the funny thing is just an hour ago I was filming a division. Somebody came up to me and asked are you going I just watched your video. And actually it was like the dark drive. And now he's getting, he just did the duck drive and now he's getting into the 360. Like this, like we really see that we are making a difference. People are commenting on the YouTube channel all the time. And we go to the beach and people are coming to us. And on this day, like the biggest thing I think that is keeping us going is that we enjoy the process. We want to, we have, we want to make help as many people as possible, but we don't have a goal of, I dunno, getting like a million subscribers or, it would be great, but the truth is even if we don't, we are still going to do it because that process is what we enjoy. We are doing it and that's fulfilling in itself. Yeah, that's great. That, that happens to me a lot too. Like when I go down to the beach, not even just in Hawaii, anywhere in the world, really like in, in Holland or in Australia, people come up to me as oh, I learned how to win, how to stand up pallet board from you or whatever. So it's pretty pretty cool to, to get that kind of feedback for sure. But here's that video about how to duct jibes? So maybe we can break that down a little bit the learning, how to deduct Jack, cause people have been asking me about that. What are you doing? How do you do that? This one's classic because I'm that gentleman who's in this video, we call him the legend. His name is Harry Andrews. Andrew's any truly is a legend. This guy he's done it all. And I've been lucky enough to know him for many years. And when I say done it all learned to paraglide together, race, motor, cross. Absolutely. The guy does everything and he does it like, we talk about Kioski and Glenn and Evan and all these professional kites are hers. You watch Harry at the beach. He's like doing all these board offs and flipping it around and putting it on his feet. The guy is incredible, but we're lucky enough to have him here in Jupiter is a dear friend of mine. And One day. He's God, Damien, I'm doing the duck job. I'm like, what the heck is a duck job? I've never, ever heard of a duck jive. And he's out there practicing it. And so the next day I'm like, wait, dude, Harry's doing the duck jab. I don't even know what it is. So I went and tried it and I'd go into these downwind turns going like a hundred miles an hour on the wing would hit me and flip and twist. And I was like total disaster. But my tips to everybody trying to learn how to duck jive would be try it on the beach again. I always say that, but you can really learn your hands and what to do with the wing on the beach first. And you can, watch these videos and in Gwen slows it down so you can actually see the process of the wing and how to drop it. But the most important thing is you're going to, you're going to crack off downwind because you need to take the tension out of the wing, but you can't crack off to straight down in, or else you're actually gonna have a backwind issue, but I would say you need to be going down when and that's going to help take some pressure off. And then you just steer your way around and you're going to drop that wing down and it's going to circle around. And, but I would say the biggest tip to me, I would say is there's a downwind movement. And that's, you got to take the pressure off that wean for it to spin. Yeah. Releasing the pressure from the wing. And then I like to like the back handle, I'd like to move my backend forward to the second handle so I can grab the very back handle with my backhand. And then I look for the front handle. Like I like, I always that's if you miss that, grabbing the front handle on the other side, then it's really hard to pull it off. So the quicker you can grab that and get your hand on the front handle again, then it's free twist or preterm. And I would say everybody's different, right? So some people have comfortable things like Gwen learning a new trick off the pay took it. Cause it just felt comfortable. If you feel comfortable, maybe twisting your handle before you go into it, try it because it may work for you. It may not work for others, it never hurts to try some of these things to better your progress that day. Yeah. Right on. I hear we're getting another, yeah. So these ads are obviously pretty annoying for people who watch the videos, but that's how YouTube is get a little bit of money from the videos. So here he's yeah, grabbing the wing pretty far in the back, grabbing the front handle sometimes. Yeah. Like when I crashed and CG, cause they don't grab the front panel. That seems to be the one of my issues, which is nice on like the wing that we are using Damien and in Harry and I the Cabrina X tool, like the handles are very wide and I totally I really loved that because he makes grabbing the handle on, in this case, like a bit easier. And then one of the advantages of this move to an in light wind, if you do it right, you can do it completely without getting back winded. Versus sometimes if you do a regular jibe and you're moving down, when you get like the apparent wind can actually be against you. So you can get back winded sometimes in the light went jive. So I liked doing it in really light wind conditions sometimes. Yeah. Good move to learn. That's what we ride in. So that's where we'd love to try an island. What conditions do you have usually? What are the winds like and how the yeah. What kind of conditions. I'd say we get to choose to, I'd say we get five to third, I would say, there's, we used to have a lot of cold fronts that were really powerful and we'd have 30 plus, but I would say on average you would be a good day and be like 12 to 25 maybe. Or in the twenties, that'd be a magical day. So it's perfect for learning, but it's we don't really get the cold fronts like we used to get and we still do, but it's definitely less and less. So the wind is not like Hawaii or it can sustain 30 to 40 all the time. So yeah. Yeah. It's a little bit different for us here on Oahu and Maui. Just the way the island is shaped with the wind. It kind of funnels the wind between the two sides of the island, but on a wall it's usually like about 10 knots later than on Maui. As when we can barely get going, it's already cranking on Maori, so it's not where it's not quite always, but at least we do have steady Tradewinds and yeah. Luckily global warming hasn't affected the Tradewinds. It seems plus on the wing foiling, you can really get going and less wind than you need for windsurfing or even cutting, I think or in gusty winds, it just works better because yeah, if you have to wait for a couple of minutes for the next Gustin, once you're up on the foil it's pretty easy to keep it going, even in really light winds. Yeah, it's and that's, you nailed that perfectly is, you're in a lighter wind spot, we're in a lighter wind spot. And I would say across the country, there's a lot of places that are light winds, but even gusty. And I would say to throw a kite up a hundred meter line or a hundred feet line and have kites phone and disasters, it's just so easy to grab a wing and give it a shot. And I think, Gwen nailed that earlier, but that's that's why it's so achievable for people. And you truly can go live your best life and try something new and learn something new because we all like learning. And that's what it's all about. So as we learn how to do duck jives and all these things that this legend here brings to us, and we're like, what was that? What are we doing? Okay, we're going to try that. That's great. In terms of the skills that you have, would you say a lot of, oh, that one. I'm just watching it, the video here, but it's the skills that you have, like how much of it is like talent, like natural God-given talent and how much of it is just practicing and doing it over and over and screwing up until you can find me do it. I would say for most people, look, everybody's been given a talent and I would say for sure, there's people out there that are significantly, you know, more, advance or they've been given stronger muscles or whatever it may be. But I would say, I would just say to anybody out there. Yes. You put a lot of time in the water, you're going to get good at it. A lot of people skiing, I always remember this. It's a good analogy, but everybody skiing would say, man, you're really good at skiing or whatever. And I'm like I skied every single day, literally through the summer, every single day, every day I could. And they would only go on a ski trip three times a year. You're only going to be as good as how much effort you put into whatever you do. Make sure to put effort into something and just like Landon or yourself, you study it, you learn it, you learn your craft and you'll be incredible at it. I would say I'm very blessed and I've been very skilled and I'm but I would say I'm no different than anybody out there. And I say that truthfully, because you can learn something if you put your mind to it. And I don't care if you're 200 pounds, I just think anything is possible. If you really just put your mind to it. He's teaching right now. Yeah. No, not quite. So do you ever a lot, I think a lot of it is really is mental. Like some days you go out and everything's just perfect, you're in tune with the conditions in your equipment. Everything's perfect. And you feel like Superman, you can do anything. You can pull off all kinds of moves. And then the next day you go out on the same equipment, the same conditions, and you're like a total cook again. So does that ever happen to you and is there anything you can do about that or your mindset? Yeah, I would say, you nailed it and you've opened it that way, but I would say, look, you always got to go into every day, every session, every work appointment, every time with your wife or your loved one, whatever it is always be looking for the positive in whatever the situation is because you're spot on. For everyone already out there, Gwen and I go down to the beach and we may have learned a new trick and then the next day you can't do it because you just, it didn't click again and that's normal and that's totally fine because maybe your muscles are fatigued or maybe you just are a little off or the conditions are a little bit harder or whatever it may be. That's part of the learning process. So don't, if you get it and you get up willing in one day, don't think tomorrow you're going to be winging exactly the same, it will still keep coming. But I think a lot of people get frustrated or they get beat down and I would just say, look, be open to maybe it wasn't the perfect conditions. Maybe I just wasn't on my game today. So it's a hundred percent mental and it's how you look at it and always have a better outlook on whatever it is, whether it's winging or life or depression or whatever, just you got to have a better outlook. And I think if you change that mentally and your whole life and work and relationships and weaning and. Will just absolutely blow your mind. You will change. You will surround yourself with good people. All of a sudden, opportunities will come, you'll learn the duck jive like I did. And that was just cause I was surrounding myself with good people and Gwen did the 180, whatever it was called. I still don't even know what it's called, that's how I learned it. I didn't think of it, but it was a great opportunity to see it. Wow. This is great. I'm looking at the positive. Let's give it a shot versus I'll never do it. I'm not going to try it. I can do these other things. I'm really good at I'm going to keep doing them instead. I'm like open to try it. Why not? What's the worst can happen. I crashed, I looked like a moron. I crashed all the time and a lot of people are nervous to crash or look bad. And I would say, look, that is life learning, making mistakes, and your mistakes lead you to be a better person and relationships and work and business and you name it. And that's how you learn. So I've made a lot of mistakes. So I get pretty good things. Yeah. I think I would say sometime you have to detach yourself from from the goal or like still have a goal, but not be so like the fulfilling path is an only attributing the goal the process should be fulfilling. And if you can do that then. Whatever the outcome is, you're going to be stoked because you are doing, you are in the process. So for me, I just see it as how, however frustrating it is that sometime that as good as the day from before but you are still out there and that's the process. And so that, try to get that being fully fulfilling and the outcome when, the outcome is good or not. That's okay. But if you put in the time and you go out there and you have fun and you enjoy the process. Yeah. It wouldn't be, it would be good. Yeah. You still learn something even when you're a coop and nothing's working, but let's say, do you have any pointers for someone that's stuck in that negative mindset or whatever, getting upset with themselves or being stuck in a negative mindset? How can you turn that around as the more positive and optimistic or, obviously you learn a lot better when you're, when you have a positive mindset, right? Yeah. We joke, but we'll we'll text you Harry's phone number so everybody can call Harry and they can personally get advice. Now I would just say, look, everybody goes through this. Just know that you're not the only one. And the ways to get out of it is to say yes, just say yes to something, get up and do something and it can be anything. It can be, go for a walk. It can be just get up and do something. Because if you just keep dwelling on it, you will just put yourself lower and whatever it may be, or you'll get deflated. And you just don't want to try anything. You don't want to do anything. And I would say the best thing you can do is change your scenery, change, whatever you're doing, get up, do something different. Yeah. Take your brain off it, take a break, relax, whatever it may be. Just change that but know that there's the process. The process that Gwen speaks about is everything. I went to Hawaii. I think I have the speed record with Alex Guerin Hawaii. Maybe. I don't even know if that stands, but that was a process to get a speed record in Hawaii. It was not about getting a speed record. It was about. Going out with my buddy and going as fast as I can, and his daughter did it and it was just incredible experience. And did we know we could do it? We didn't even know if the wind was going to be perfect. We thought it would be, but who knows? It's when and you just don't know. So just get up and always look at the glass, full it's just there, you just, if your car breaks down, locate ran good until today. That's okay. Get it fixed. Moving on and look at the positive. Don't look at my life's over. Oh my gosh. It's there, there's no gain from that. Yeah. And I would say every time you do something and you failed, it's good because that means you are one step closer to six to succeed. The more you fail, the closer you get to, being successful. So don't get discouraged and, and draw the process. And the more you fail, the better you're going to get. Yeah. It's like that quote from Wayne, Gretzky, like that you miss every shot you don't take. So just, you gotta keep trying to achieve things, even if you have to fail or, hundreds of times or thousands of sense I was thinking about that Thomas Edison failed like thousands of times before you invented the light bulb. Yeah, not giving up too easily. It's part of it. And I think a lot of people a dear friend of mine, Julie Mancusos Olympic athlete or Olympic medalist, many time, whatever. And even when I won my world championship, you're your pinnacle, people think it's, that's the moment. That moment is just okay, what do I do next? So just know that, your life, whether it'll go through these roller coaster. So the best thing you can do is always just keep learning, keep trying, keep opening the door to try new things, because that'll keep a healthy lifestyle versus getting so fixated on something that if you don't achieve it, I don't make a million dollars. I don't get the cool job. I don't get the perfect setup, whatever it may be. You're just going to get crushed versus. How many workers are as I can today may lead to me owning my own business. But you just got to, always have a goal or a dream, for sure. I think that's a really good thing and work hard and treat people the way that you would want to be treated. And I think you'll be incredibly successful. Yeah. That's a good point. One thing that people say, like writing down goals, like in, in writing or telling other people about it, it holds you more accountable to achieving that goal. Is that something you agree with? Is that something you do that you have written goals? Yeah. We have 15 notebooks here of videos that are coming. I'm just kidding. I just think, yes, I've always been whether it's writing it down or having it in the back of your brain, but the most important thing. And I'm one to know cause I've, I had a pretty bad accident midway through my life here that led me to my beautiful wife and a lot of great things. Everything happens in life. So I would say just because you think you're meant to be something, so say I thought my whole life, I was going to be one of the best ski racers in the world who would have known, I would have ended up in Florida, playing with wings and kitesurfing and who knows, so just start taking those roads and it's gonna lead you to some special, incredible opportunities in life. I would just always be open to learning and take different paths and you'd be pretty excited on your outcome. Do you have anything to add that to that wins? Yeah. I've done so many things in my life, like trench change like path so many times. And I come from a family that's very traditional, like in a way, like you, you go to school for something and then you get that job and then you keep that job and you get married, you have kids and you retire and that's it. But for me I, I've never been change is scary sometimes. In the end, like you just have to be open trigger yourself first. Like when you do something and and it's not fulfilling or it doesn't make you happy, then you, it's your responsibility to find what's, what you want to do. What's what makes you happy? I think that's the priority. And then that will lead you to many different ways and it's not going to be a straight line, but if you if you are open to trying new things, if you keep don't get stuck somewhere and opportunities come all the time. So you just have to be open to it and change path. When. Yeah, definitely. And I agree that you don't have to live a boring life. That's what you make of it. So courage everyone to try to live their life to the fullest. So let's talk a little bit about the, kind of the obsession with foiling. Once you get into foiling, you get that feeling and it's I want to say it's like an addiction or it's like a drug that you want again and again. So is there a dark side to it? Is there like a downside or is it just a healthy thing for you? Is there, do you ever feel like it's, maybe there's a negative downside to it. I think the negative would be like, if you're in a relationship, you have to buy multiple foils for sure. For your wife, for your kids, that would be the negative of it. No, I would say, they're, I would say the negative that everybody is always worried about, is it danger? I'm going to get caught. I heard of people getting cut or hurt or, and I would just say, look, yes, it's dangerous. But I would say you get into your car every day. That is 10 times more dangerous. And everything is within reason. So if you take it slow and watch your YouTube channel and learn all this stuff and you can do it and you can learn safely and you may have some setbacks. That's all part of it. But I would say it's everything in life has it's dangerous. And if you're always worried about every danger, you're never going to do anything. So you got to take a little bit of a risk and go talk to the girl that you wanted to talk to. If you don't talk to her, you're never going to get her for sure. So take that risk and talk to her. So there's so many things that it leads to in life. And I would say with foiling, the biggest one is danger. And I would say it's only is danger is dangerous as you make it. Learn to Hamilton and Benny. And some of these guys do, and, in Kailani doing the massive waves, that's pushing the limit, but they're also, that is their challenge and learning of them, what is possible. And I think that's their level, mine may be on a two foot piece of chop and I get scared and I go home. It could be that, but I'm okay with that. And it's fun. Yeah. Yeah. It's different levels of risk. I just watched that a movie about the guy what's his name? Alex Honnold climbing free soloing, El Capitan in Yosemite with like super hard sections, super high off of the ground. That was incredible. So compared to that, I think wing filing is pretty safe compared to that. And especially on the water, but I get one thing I would say, if you're doing it on land, like on a skateboard or an ice, you do have to be careful, especially when you go fast. A lot of times you can't. Hold up your head. So if you hit the ground and your head hits the it's, the ice, or that the ground, you can actually get pretty injured. So wearing a helmet and knee pads, elbow pads, and all that kind of stuff. It's definitely a good idea. If your issue, you're not doing it in the wall. And even the water, I think you wearing a helmet is a good idea when you're doing crazy moves, like flips and stuff like that. We're not going to hurt at all. Any type of safety, Mo impact this to even full wetsuits. So you don't get all scraped up when you're climbing up and down off the board learning, booties for chafing, the top of your feet. I know I needed them the first day when I gave him all my wing stuff, he came home like bloody, and I was like, ok

Episode #68 - "Jester" 40 Day Hikes on the MST (Hikes 37-40)

"Jester" Section Hiker

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 17, 2021 37:51

Jester has completed the 40 Hike Challenge and all 40 Day hikes from the Book, Great Day Hikes ON North Carolina's Mountains To Sea Trail. In this last episode of the series Jester shares with you day hikes 37-40. Jester brings you along as she completes the road walk on Cedar Island, visits the lighthouse on Cape Hatteras, takes in the views on the Pea island wildlife refuge, has a crazy trek on the Beach, and finishes with hike #40 on the tallest active sand dune at Jockey's Ridge State Park, the Eastern Terminus of the Mountains To Sea Trail. Thank You to our show Sponsor, The MST Guide by Pocket Trails. Providing up-to-date maps and extensive trail information, Pocket Trails plans to give MST hikers everything they need to know, both when they need it and in the palm of their hand. The MST Guide App is now available in the Google Play Store and coming to the iPhone very soon! The MST Guide App by Pocket Trails: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=app.pockettrails.themstguide The MST Guide on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/themstguide/ Thanks for listening and Happy Section Hiking! Great Day Hikes ON North Carolina's Mountains-to-Sea Trail: https://stores.portmerch.com/mountainstoseatrail/featured-products/great-day-hikes-on-north-carolina-s-mountain-to-sea-trail.html Mountains to Sea Trail: https://mountainstoseatrail.org/challenges/40-hike-challenge/ Jockey's Ridge State Park (MST Eastern Terminus): https://www.ncparks.gov/jockeys-ridge-state-park/home "Jester" 40 Hike Challenge Complete Itinerary: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SjgM4CACCopSAL8GlnongRns7B-NGYL2rjtAoywRK58/edit?usp=sharing "Jester" Reference Tools, Gear Lists, Hiking Resume and more: https://solo.to/jestersectionhiker Connect with Julie "Jester" Gayheart: Email: jester@jestersectionhiker.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jestersectionhiker/ Website: https://www.hikingradionetwork.com/show/jester-section-hiker/ Music for the Podcast provided by: The Okee Dokee Brothers - "Through The Woods" https://www.okeedokee.org/

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National Parks Traveler: A Cape Hatteras Conversation

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 4, 2021 51:57

How is life on Cape Hatteras National Seashore these days? We sat down with Superintendent Dave Hallac for a wide-ranging conversation about the national seashore, touching on topics ranging from beach access to wildlife and even pirates.

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1990: Record high temperatures in Eastern US

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 12, 2021 3:27

The winter of 1989-1990 in the eastern 2/3rds of the nation had been brutal. November 1989 started mild in the western part of the nation, and a bit cooler in the East it was nothing out of the ordinary. The weather, however changed dramatically in late November. It turned very cold with frequent snowstorms in the central states and the east. In the Midwest temperatures averaged, in some places more than 15 degrees below normal, and it ranked as one of the 5 coldest Decembers on record, and the fierce winter was just getting started. At the end of December, just a day before Christmas one of the greatest coastal snowstorms every recorded struck South and North Carolina. By Christmas morning 1989 snow reached almost 4” in depth in Charleston, SC, 15” in Wilmington NC and more than a foot all the way out on Cape Hatteras, NC. Snow covered the ground as far south as Tampa and Daytona Beach. In January and February of 1990 temperatures began to moderate somewhat – but it remained cold and snowy in many places in the East. In mid-March winter broke and it did so by completely flipping the script. Warm air started to build across the Plains states and by March 10th the jet stream, that had dropped far south in the United States and brought cold air with it had retreated quickly northward into Canada. That allowed the warm air out west to pour into the East. March 12 , 1990 saw unheard of record high temperatures. The mercury reached 90 in Raleigh, NC, 87 in Norfolk, Va. 86 on the beaches of Atlantic City. And amazing 95 in Baltimore Md, breaking a record that had stood for 100 years. Meanwhile cool air still held out over New England and Long Island. While readings in northern New Jersey soared into the upper 80s, central Long Island was chilly. LaGuardia Airport, a mere 60 miles away in New York City reached no higher than 47. But the winter was clearly on the run on March 12, 1990 and no more artic air reached into the Eastern states until the following winter. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

1994: Massive snowstorm dumps 30" in Central PA

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Play Episode Listen Later Mar 3, 2021 2:35

On March 3 1994, a major storm belted the eastern states, heavy rains fell along the east coast and heavy snow piled up in the interior. As much as 30” of snow buried parts of central PA. This intense storm resulted in the establishment of many seasonal snowfall records in the region. The snow was accompanied by frequent thunder and lightning in some locations. These thunder snows, acting much like downpours of rain in the summertime – gave downpours of snow that mounted up, in some places to 4-5 inches in a single hour. Along the East Coast, on the I-95 corridor, there was more than 2” of rain accompanied by wind gusts over 60 mph and urban street flooding and flooding along streams; 25 foot waves crashed on to Cape Hatteras, NC. A snow avalanche buried 5 cars under 20 feet of snow, trapping the occupants for 28 hours before rescue in the Pennsylvania Mountains of Clinton County. 28" of snow fell at State College PA; 24" at Lock Haven, PA. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Light Hearted special edition – Cape Hatteras (NC) 150th anniversary; Bett Padgett and John Havel

Light Hearted

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 9, 2020 33:50

Offshore from Cape Hatteras, North Carolina, the Gulf Stream collides with the Virginia Drift, a branch of the Labrador Current from Canada. This current forces mariners heading south toward a dangerous twelve-mile long sandbar called Diamond Shoals. Countless shipwrecks there have led to the nickname “Graveyard of the Atlantic.” A lighthouse was first authorized at Cape Hatteras in 1794, and the station began service in 1803. By the 1860s it was decided that instead of extensive repairs to the old tower, a new one would be built. The new tower went into service on December 16, 1870. At 198 feet, it’s the tallest lighthouse in the United States and the second tallest brick lighthouse in the world. Cape Hatteras Light Station, North Carolina, in 1898. (U.S. Lighthouse Society) Cape Hatteras Light Station was transferred to the National Park Service in 1937. Over the years, efforts were made to stabilize the beach in front of the lighthouse as the ocean crept closer. After years of study and much debate, the lighthouse was moved 2900 feet from its original position in 1999. The keepers’ houses and other light station buildings were also moved. The National Park Service continues to manage the lighthouse and keepers’ quarters, as well as conducting public tours. This December 16 marks the 150th birthday of the 1870 tower, and the National Park Service is putting on a special event. You can watch the event on the Cape Hatteras National Seashore’s Facebook page and Dare County’s CURRENTtv. Cape Hatteras Lighthouse, U.S. Lighthouse Society photo. The Outer Banks Lighthouse Society actively supports all North Carolina Lighthouses. Bett Padgett has served on the organization’s board of directors since 1999, and is serving her second stint as president. Bett is a North Carolina native who taught guitar at NC State University for 29 years. She continues to teach music, and she also writes and performs original music. John Havel is a New Jersey native who’s lived in North Carolina for more than 40 years. His love for Cape Hatteras Lighthouse and its history led to John becoming a board member of the Outer Banks Lighthouse Society, and he serves as the historian for Cape Hatteras Lighthouse. Bett PadgettJohn Havel Listen to the podcast episode:

Tim Blanchard - A Canadian Kitesurfing Heritage Moment

Permastoked with Derik Hyatt

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 16, 2020 134:22

#PERMASTOKED, Episode 18: Tim Blanchard - A Canadian Kitesurfing Heritage Moment…Now Available Free for Streaming and Download on the Alexa App, iTunes / Apple Podcasts at https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/permastoked/id1518415157, Deezer, Pandora, Podbean, Google Podcasts at https://podcasts.google.com/search/permastoked, Stitcher, Spotify at https://open.spotify.com/show/6qsR6lN7M7edO798HSBxpj, iHeart Radio, TuneIn or wherever you get your podcasts. You can also Watch the Show on our YouTube Channel at https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChueUd4VG0WYXN3ky532vzg?. Be sure to Listen, Rate, Review and Share! In this episode, Derik Hyatt interviews Owner and Head Instructor of Surf Culture Canada and Founder of Kitestock, Tim Blanchard. These two Windsor-Essex County Natives discuss the power of Lake Erie; Tim forming a band named Sublime before the actual SoCal Reggae Dub band, Sublime; windsurfing; the history and development of Canadian kiting on the west coast and the Great Lakes; escaping the grips of US Border Patrol for posing a threat to Homeland Security by kiting on the Detroit River; Kitestock; foiling; snow kiting, wing surfing, kiting on a food tray, SUP, surfing and more! Well-traveled waterman and Puce resident, Tim Blanchard started windsurfing in his early teens. At 20 he traveled extensively, spending a year in Australia, New Zealand, Fiji and Costa Rica where he caught the surfing stoke. After University he moved to Victoria, BC and spent his summers training for competitive windsurfing in Hood River, OR (The Gorge) and Lake Nitnat. He began his kiting journey in 1999 along with Ross Harrington (head designer of Ocean Rodeo) and the rest of the Victoria crew. His first kite was one of Ross’s hand made 8m four line kites. He got in over a hundred sessions at Lake Nitnat during the summer of 2000, mastering his kiting skills, before moving back to Ontario to attend Teacher’s College. Being years ahead of everyone else in the region with his polished skills and powerful riding style, he quickly became the poster child for Great Lakes high-performance kiteboarding. During the spring of 2001 Tim took part in the first Internationally Certified Instructors Training Course taking place in Cape Hatteras, NC. He has since trained 1000’s of students and several instructors over the past 20 years. With over 25 years of water sports experience in the World’s Oceans and the Great Lakes, he can provide you with the proper skills and knowledge to safely get on board. He was also the Great Lakes rider for the Naish North American Team from 2001-2006. Due to work, instructional and family responsibilities he only competed a few times but was the “King of Great Lakes Big Air Champion” and placed second overall at the 2001 IIes de la Madeleine World Cup event. His current day job as a high school science teacher, experience as a collegiate track and field athlete and crossfit athlete/trainer make him uniquely qualified to provide the best instructional experience in Canada. Today, in its 20th year of operation, founded in 2000 by Tim, Canada’s first certified instructor, Surf Culture Canada has pioneered the sport in Southwestern Ontario and is committed to the continued promotion of kiteboarding and other wind and wave sports in the Great Lakes and Southern Ontario. Surf Culture Canada has some of the most passionate and experienced instructors in the world and is also equipped with the latest equipment which makes learning faster, easier and more fun. As Canada’s first kiteboarding school, with over 1000 lessons taught and 7000+ hours of combined lesson and riding time, Tim Blanchard is your kiteboarding authority in Ontario. The most experienced, the most respected, Tim Blanchard and Surf Culture Canada have been featured in: KiteBoarding Magazine, Kiteboarder Magazine, OLN, CBC Radio, Global TV, Intersections Magazine (Mazda), and local TV interviews. To learn more about Tim or to book lessons with Surf Culture Canada online, visit www.surfculturecanada.ca/. To connect with Tim on social media, you can find him on both Facebook and Instagram at @surfculturecanada and on Twitter at @SurfCultureCan. This episode was recorded on November 10, 2020. It is family friendly with minimal swearing, but no F-bombs. To reach Derik Hyatt for comments, questions, collaboration, sponsorship, business enquiries or bookings, including SUP and yoga, please email info@freshwatersurfgoods.com. Permastoked is brought to you by Freshwater Surf Goods. Your surf brand devoted to spreading the stoke across the unsalted seas and cultivating pride amongst the surf community. We do this by providing products and apparel that celebrate the awesomeness of both Great Lakes and Canadian surf culture. Look for our products in a surf shop near you, such as SurfSup Eco Shop in Kincardine and Goderich where you can also find Derik Hyatt teaching surf, SUP and yoga. For more information, visit www.freshwatersurfgoods.com and be sure to sign up for our newsletter. You can also find us on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter at @freshwatersurfgoods. To stay up-to-date on all things surf and SUP from across Canada, be sure to join our Facebook Group, the All Canadian Surf & SUP Club. Mahalo for listening and stay stoked! LINKS Web: www.freshwatersurfgoods.com Facebook: www.facebook.com/freshwatersurfgoods Instagram: www.instagram.com/freshwatersurfgoods YouTube: www.youtube.com/channel/UChueUd4VG0WYXN3ky532vzg? 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Hurricane off Cape Hatteras

Accidental Adventures

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 10, 2020 10:25

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385. Huey Long vs Willie Stark

Louisiana Anthology Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 3, 2020

385. Every Man a King vs All the King's Men. Last spring, Bruce taught an upper-level course in Louisiana literature. This week, we're airing a class discussion on Huey Long in his autobiography, Every Man a King, vs Willie Stark in Robert Penn Warren's All the King's Men.This week in Louisiana history. October 4, 1792. Under Gov. Carondelet, the first theatre opened in Louisiana on St. Peter St., N.O. This week in New Orleans history. James Gallier Sr. Perishes in Hurricane, October 3, 1866. Was an architect. He died along with his second wife Catherine Maria Robinson, on October 3, 1866, when the steamer Evening Star, on which they were travelling from New York to New Orleans, sank in a hurricane at Cape Hatteras off the Georgia Coast. This week in Louisiana. Red River Revel Arts Festival October 3rd, 2020 - October 11th, 2020 Festival Plaza 101 Crockett St, Shreveport, LA 71101 318-424-4000 | Fax Website | Email This popular art and music festival features nine days of food, live music, children's activities, and some the finest visual and performing arts experiences from local and regional artists. Postcards from Louisiana. Quess @ Take 'em Down NOLA. Listen on iTunes Listen on StitcherListen on Google Play.Listen on Google Podcasts.Listen on Spotify.Listen on TuneIn.The Louisiana Anthology Home Page.Like us on Facebook.Cleanth Brooks and Robert Penn Warren

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1788: Hurricane over George Washington's Mt. Vernon