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LearningDust
LearningDust 5.05 - Jose Florido

LearningDust

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 21, 2024 63:03


@JoseFlorido from @Freepik joins us to discuss his career in UX design and the importance of parental involvement in children's education. He shares the benefit of his experience working for @Facebook, @Google & @Spotify and tells us about his work creating beautiful presentations for educators using @slidesgo

Plan With The Tax Man
Finance Fortress: Practical Strategies for Retirees Against Scams & Fraud

Plan With The Tax Man

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 7, 2024 25:12


As much as any other threat, recognizing and avoiding scams has become a necessary skill for today's retirees to develop. Join us as we explore crucial steps you can take to safeguard your financial well-being against the growing tide of scams and identity theft. Learn from real-life stories and gain practical advice to keep your finances secure in this digital era, all from the perspective of a seasoned financial professional.   Important Links: Website: http://www.yourplanningpros.com Call: 844-707-7381   ----more---- Transcript:  Marc Killian  00:01 As much as any other threat recognizing and avoiding scams has become a necessary skill for today's retirees to develop. Join us this week on plan with the tax man as we explore some crucial steps to hopefully safeguard your financial well being against the growing tide of scams and identity theft. Look up in the sky. It's a bird.   Announcer 2  00:21 It's a plane. No, it's the tax man. He may not be a superhero, but Tony Morrow has saved many retirement plans with his extreme knowledge of tax planning strategies. It's time for a plan with the tax man.   Marc Killian  00:36 Hey, everybody, welcome into the podcast. It's playing with a tax man with Tony Morrow and myself here to talk about your financial fortress, practical strategies for retirees against scams and fraud. And for this month of March, I think Tony and I are going to kind of stay with tech as our theme. We're going to talk about some scams and stuff. This week, we're going to talk about some other technological, you know, retirement planning things on our next episode. So we're gonna kind of use that as our theme this month in March. What's going on my friend, how are you?   Tony Mauro  01:03 I'm doing well. How   Marc Killian  01:04 about you hanging in there? You and I were talking offline, as we got started that it's just you know, it's March already. And   Tony Mauro  01:10 we're busy, busy, busy, busy. And I thought these two topics that we're going to talk about in these next couple episodes be? Yeah, like I said, very, very timely, it's tax season. There's   Marc Killian  01:19 all kinds of things going on. Yes, sir. You're hear a lot from clients. So yeah, looking forward to sending information back and forth doing this, you know, the scammers they love to come out in force at different times of the year, certainly around Christmas, right. That's a good one springtime tax time, right? They tend to kind of come out there, oh, you, you know you, your tax bill is this or, you know, you owe this and use your tax, you know, return to pay for it, all these kinds of things. Right? always something going on. So let's jump in and talk about a few things. And, you know, I got this first a little news example here, Tony, that I wanted you to kind of listen to this and check this out. And then tell me things that you've seen similarly or heard, you know, within your own practice, right. So there was this news example, little synopsis here is the lady named Marjorie 77 years old, lost $660,000 to a Tech Support Scam, where the fraudsters posed as bank officials and somehow convinced her to wire her funds into crypto to protect her money from suppose a theft. Well, of course, they stole their money. Americans over 60 lost $3 billion last year in cyber fraud crazy, absolutely   Tony Mauro  02:30 crazy. It really is. And I think to elaborate on it, you know, most of the time the seniors tend to be the bigger targets but it can happen to anybody. And with all this tech going on and really sitting behind computers and phones all day it comes at us and you know we were just talking about how busy we are and sometimes you you're busy and you're not paying attention and you just go with it and then some potentially could happen the worst case I've seen in our own practice is we had a an elderly lady several years back just that she just uh you know, annual tax climb but she came in and she had said that she had gotten calls from somebody saying that they needed money they were pretending to be somebody she knew and they wanted paid in some kind of visa gift cards. Yeah, she kept going Yeah, going to Walgreens and getting visa gift cards anyway, at the end of it all before she found this out she was out about $11,000 and this poor lady you know, didn't have much to begin with and just a sad case and that is what is going on leading to these huge numbers is stuff like that people are getting our clients are getting robo calls and scam calls from people pretending to be the IRS and the IRS comes out and says they never will call you exactly always a letter Yep. And you know don't fall for it but people people do sir you know and it's it's all over I just had a call actually wasn't a call was an email yesterday directly to me saying that the person's name and says I need access to my portal please help. I looked her up on our system. She's not even a client of ours. I you know, that's a scam email coming in? Oh, wow. directly to me. Yeah, as a business not just individuals, but businesses to businesses, we you know, we clients don't realize it, but how much we spend dollar wise, and, and also timewise and trying to protect their data, because it's all out on portals. Now, you know, all this tax data, we got to be very careful with and it's difficult. But I think from a large, big picture view, you've really got to pay attention to what you're reading. And we'll get to some some more examples here in a second, but it's terrible. And I think it's only gonna get worse because we are getting into a society where we're not even using real money a lot of times anymore, you know, it's all it's all transfers and EFTPS and credit cards.   Marc Killian  04:53 Yeah, exactly. And that we're gonna Yeah, that's a great point because like with your credit card, or excuse me your gift card comment where Gotta run through some of this stuff, right? So let's go, let's kind of break some of these things down for folks and give some examples. We'll put a link into the show notes as well, that gives kind of more examples of some of the things from Thompson's routers, article from Thomson Reuters on there, that might give a few more ideas for people to look through as well. But, you know, so there's, we've, a lot of us have heard of phishing, right? We know about phishing emails. So there's phishing vishing. So that's phishing with a V. And smishing. This is hilarious how we make up these words, right? Yeah. But anyway, so let's, let's run through those three real fast. So phishing, of course, we just mentioned, you just talked about it yourself, emails and websites trying to steal your data. That's one, right. So be Be diligent there, I think we've gotten a lot better about those. But, you know, again, keep your head on the swivel, exactly,   Tony Mauro  05:44 because I mean, emails are coming at us so fast, that again, a lot of times, we're not reading them, and we're just flying through them very easily to be deceived, I would definitely check out you know, the headers of your email, make sure it's coming from somewhere you kind of recognize that's, that's the big one. And even   Marc Killian  06:02 with that, Tony, I would say be still be very careful, right? Because we're seeing these kinds of scams. We've talked about this a little while back, where, you know, you get an email from Amazon, for example, since it's so massive, and everyone uses it and says, there's a problem with your order, click here to sort it out, or we'll help you get it taken care of, don't do that. I don't care if it you know, if it says Amazon, and it looks like their logo and everything looks fantastic. Immediately just delete the email, and then log in to your personal web, you know, Amazon account, go on the web, whatever, you know, you go there versus a link, they provided you to go there, right. And that way, you're going directly to the horse's mouth to see if there's an issue nine times out of 10, there isn't one, it's just someone trying to scam you. So definitely be careful there. What's vishing, Tony, or   Tony Mauro  06:48 visiting is if you actually get a call. And a lot of times these will come in through your cell phone, because everybody's using the cell phones, and they're trying to trick you into providing personal information. And they're very good at it, you know, and most of the time, I mean, the easiest way to do this is, if you don't recognize him, I would probably just hang up, it would be my best advice. If it's somebody you know, or somebody that really needed your personal information, they're either going to call back, or they're going to get it some other way. But this is where I think my dad's got a lot of these calls. He's a senior, he gets them at home a lot on his landline. And they're asking him for his information. They're pretending to be either a credit card company, or somebody soliciting and they're asking him for his course, they know his name, but they want his address. Sometimes they'll ask for credit card information. Some of them have even asked him for his social security number. Yeah. Obviously, you do not want to give that stuff out. No bank information, do not give that out nothing. And   Marc Killian  07:42 they try some of that stuff to this is the IRS calling or that kind of stuff, right? And it's just that's not the case, right? They're gonna send you certain certified letters, they're gonna send you appropriate things of that nature. So smishing is also cell phones. This is just through text. And that's obviously the big one now too, right? Because it's like, again, it could even be the Amazon thing. There's a text from Amazon saying, there's a problem with your order, click this link to sort it out. You know, yeah,   Tony Mauro  08:07 I just, I just had one of these yesterday, I pulled it up on my phone to for this call. It was from a person, I get a text that says, Hi, my dear friend, it's been a long time since I've heard from you. Have you been? I have no idea who this this number is. So I texted them back said who is this? And she said, It's Diana. And you saved my number. And I said, I think you have the wrong number. And then she started asking me questions about my personal information. And that's like, why do you need this? I was playing with her a little bit, and finally got her to just stop. But I think she was fishing for some personal information from me pretending to be an old friend. And oh, yeah. And that that's just a little bit too fishy, you know? Exactly.   Marc Killian  08:49 No pun intended, right? Yeah.   Tony Mauro  08:51 It's just so you gotta watch it because they will, you know, they will. I've seen clients bring stuff in with text, pretending to be credit card companies. Again, your your card has been declined at least call or at least provide information. Things like that. Haven't seen too many from the IRS, the IRS scammers usually call or send emails, but it's probably possible that they could start data again, the IRS doesn't text at all, they're very old fashioned with their communication. So you know, be be careful with that, too. So there's three three areas you got to be careful of. Yeah, exactly. They are just crazy. And what's at stake, right, Tony is obviously identity theft, financial loss, credit damage, motional stress, right?   Marc Killian  09:31 So the obvious kinds of things. So let's provide a couple of examples here. And I said, um, as I mentioned, we'll put the link in here to the Thomson readers that give some more details on each of these. But let's run through kind of a few bullet points of the styles of scams that are going around government imposters big one right? Because people get immediately scared Oh crap, I gotta take care of this. It's the government you know, and often that's what they're they're preying on that and praying for you to also be like, just scared and immediately do Whatever, because you don't want to, you know, have some sort of government problem. Yeah, we   Tony Mauro  10:03 haven't we have a commercial here, for example, from the Polk County Sheriff, saying that, you know, we will don't fall victim to scams that somebody calls you from the sheriff's office demanding money or you're going to jail, you know, that, that kind of thing. So they're, you know, they're, what do you want to call it? In an authority figure? Yeah. And that scares people, just like the government. And so they actually are taking their time and money to run commercials, because it's going on around here right now that people are getting scammed like that. And police would be another one,   Marc Killian  10:35 I would say, yeah, right. We've seen those kinds of things to where if you don't pay this amount, sheriff's department's on his way out to lock your house to lock you out, you know, for some sort of, and that's like, that's all crap, right? Don't fall for that stuff. They do not do that you're going to certainly be properly notified through certified mail. You know, so don't fall for that governmental imposed imposters, sweepstakes. I don't know if I see these as much anymore. But certainly like, hey, you've won something kind of thing.   Tony Mauro  10:59 I haven't seen a lot of people complaining about this. But you could see how this would work. I mean, you know, somebody calls says you want something and oh, by the way, give us all your information and your credit card to collect the prize or something you've already won, which should send up red flags right away. But again, people especially maybe the you know, the elderly, or people that are alone, a little little more craving for some contact, and conversation. So gotta be careful there as well.   Marc Killian  11:25 Yeah. Computer Robo scams, you talked about that robo calls and phone scams, the robo calls. So this big one here, folks is and Tony, like, I know, you know this as well make sure that you don't say yes, you know, when you get these phone calls, where they're like, Hi, this is such and such, you know, blah, blah, blah, I'm having trouble hearing you. Can you hear me? And you go? Yes. And they record that? Yes. And now they plug that in to whatever automated thing where would you like to buy, you know, $5,000 worth of whatever. And they plug in your little voice saying yes. And therefore you're kind of screwed. So don't say yes, just say, I can hear you. Right or something like that.   Tony Mauro  12:02 That's right. I, my brother, again, I've got so many examples of this. But it's a robo call kind of phone scam, where the scammers are recording people's voices. And then they're using AI to create that voice in a conversation. And my brother had an insured who called him up, because he's trying to get basically wanting to know if there's any insurance coverage for this. But the client received a call that he swore was his son, it was his exact voice and everything saying he had been picked up, he was in jail, and he needed him to wire him $5,000. And the other guy did it. And it was a scam. And the guy was trying to see if he could get some insurance coverage. But insurance company said no way. Yeah. But this guy, I mean, he's not elderly. He swore it was his son. Now, he left a voicemail. And then you know, the father panicked a little bit saying, Well, I can't call him he's in jail. I'm going to I'm going to wire this money right now. And he did. So that's a that's an extreme example, but it does happen. And with his AI, if they hear me talk a little bit, they probably can somehow, you know, clone my voice and make make words up for   Marc Killian  13:15 Exactly. And that's kind of similar Tony to the grandparent scam, which is on my list. fairly similar. It's a loved one scam of some form, right? Where, to your point, you know, you get this message or an email saying, Hey, grandma, grandpa, it's, you know, Suzy, and they've got the information. And you know, I got in an accident, and I've got to pay $3,000 to for bail or you know, whatever. Right? Yeah. And people will jump to that. So don't do that. Don't worry about definitely don't go down that route. The computer tech support scams. We just talked about that for Lady Marjorie, who fell victim to that. Be very careful with tech support of any kind, they are hoping that seniors will be like, I don't understand this thing. So let me get some help. And again, don't go through any links or information that you've gotten via email or text. If you really are having a tech issue with your computer or a specific app or software. Go directly to that company for tech support. Don't go through a link that some you know that you especially unsolicited link, right. Unsolicited links. Yeah, yeah. Okay. To your point about the grandparent scam, I'll actually or to you, excuse me, you're talking about that person that was messaging you and acting like they knew you. That's a new one to a romance scam.   Tony Mauro  14:28 Yeah, this very well. Could have been that, you know, I don't know, I didn't get that far with it. But yeah, you really don't know. You know, maybe they're trying to scam you. And again, with the ability of you think about it on the phones with a romance scam. What I'm thinking of is somebody send you maybe a provocative pic of whatever, and people are gonna say, Oh, well, you know, what's that? Let's take a look. And then all of a sudden you're in a conversation with somebody you don't even know. And you know, then all of a sudden you've given out some information you should know   Marc Killian  14:56 while they're playing. They're playing on the fact that they're hoping that you're lonely especially Yeah, because they can find out if you're widowed or something like that, right? Yeah, single person. So So those are some examples. And we'll give a few more things telling you this so we won't get too too long in the episode. Let's go through kind of rapid fire or some ways to better recognize the signs of the scam. I'll start with a simple one age old thing that grandma taught us a long time ago, if it's too good to be true, probably is.   Tony Mauro  15:21 Yeah. And I think another one I mean, I'll rapid fire the next one. You know, if you if you get links, and you start reading an email, you need to look at the link. I definitely wouldn't open attachments. That's a rule in business for us for sure. Eating on a personal pewter. That's how all this stuff creeps in.   Marc Killian  15:39 Yep. So be very careful about that. Does it look suspicious? Yeah, exactly. Is it we mentioned it a second ago. Is it unsolicited? You know, is you're getting some random thing, asking you for personal information or to solidify something that you may or may not have done, and you don't recall it. If you've sent solicited, then that's a good sign. Yeah.   Tony Mauro  15:59 I think another one with that is if you get an email, and it's the paragraphs don't make a lot of sense. Or wording. Oh, spelling error? Things like that. Yeah, definitely. Then look up top seat, you know, I   Marc Killian  16:13 mean, who does that that's a great point. Another one. A lot of scams originate from overseas in different countries. And so therefore, their wording or their their English translation may not give me that click right. Right. Something looks off, you're thinking? Well, it to your point earlier about the pictures or something like that, you're thinking, well, this person looks, you know, or says they're from Florida, for example, right. But yet the wording in the language tells you that maybe they're not, you know, or something like that. So that's great point, actually, are they requesting a small amount of money in order for you to get a bigger amount of money? This one? I think most people are wise to this, Tony, it makes me think about the one from since of anyone around the 90s. Right that that prints in Nigeria that will give you $40 million? If you you know, that was so old, but there's still things going like that going around.   Tony Mauro  16:59 They must on that. I don't see that very often anymore. But every once in a while I will. It's a must. Somebody must be doing that still. Exactly. Yeah. What else you got? Well, you know, one is, like I said before, you know, most legitimate companies aren't going to have you pay them in gift cards. Yeah. And so be very careful of that. Because just like my little story with my little tax client, I mean, that's almost for sure. A scam? Yeah. Just just don't do that.   Marc Killian  17:28 Yep. Okay, so let's, let's beyond like spotting those red flags. Let's talk about some protections, we'll wrap it up with some protections here to avoid being a scam victim. Obviously, in today's day and age, we're all sick to death of passwords. I get it. But it is the world we live in. So create some strong, unique passwords. And for God's sakes, folks, if it's financially related, please change them regularly.   Tony Mauro  17:51 Absolutely. I always encourage clients to get a password keeper that randomly generates passwords have different passwords for every site. Because if you have the keeper, you don't need to know that you just need to know your master. And, you know, I so many clients have the same password for every single site. We've all heard it. And then like you I hate them, too. I hate multifactor authentication, but it's the world we live in. And it'll certainly protect you a lot better than having, you know, your first and last name as your password. I mean, yeah, it doesn't take very long for hackers to break the hip stuff. Exactly.   Marc Killian  18:26 And I get it. We all hate it at this point. But you got to do it, man, especially when it comes to your financial stuff, monitor your bank statements and credit card transactions regularly, folks, we can probably tie these two here together, Tony, turn on those fraud alerts, right with your credit cards. I mean, every time I make a transaction, it's annoying to get that extra message. But so what you know, hey, you charge $47 Well, if I know that I did it, then I ignore the email. But if I say I charge $47 And I don't recall doing it, it allows me to think well let me go dig into this.   Tony Mauro  18:58 Yeah, I think if you don't have that on your credit cards with the tech that they have, and we'll offer you with that, that's just plain silly. And then I think we always tell our clients even personal clients, you need to be reconciling your bank statement and credit cards every month now many don't do it and that's when you're going to miss something that may be slipped through on that bank statement and you didn't know about because all you're doing is you know living off of the last ATM slip you got right you had this much money in your bank account. Yep. And that's how things go unnoticed in small amounts because the good the good ones with bank accounts they'll slip stuff in very small odd amounts so to hopefully go unnoticed yeah, great point Tony. Great point they're not big big dollar amounts and then next thing you know you've got 15 charges say from like a Google yeah of $12.50 over five months you know and that's how they do it and then once you catch on they   Marc Killian  19:52 move to the next Yeah, for sure. I just got one myself from from there's a I know there's a gaming service. I know it's a legitimate service. called Twitch, but I've never used it and there's no teenagers in my house. And all of a sudden, I had three random twitch $7 Not a big deal, you know, but I'm like, well, that's not I didn't do that. So of course, I immediately talked to the credit card company, and they got it reversed. So somebody gets your information. And yeah, to your point, they're hoping you will just be like, Oh, $7 Oh, I don't remember what that was and move on. And then it's, it's a reoccurring monthly charge? Well, you got three of them now 21 bucks a month, every month? Hey, you know, that adds up. So and if they're doing that to 100 people, well, they're making bank. So you got let me ask you is as a tax professional and a financial professional, Tony, what do you think about, you know, retirees, pre retirees, or really anybody freezing their credit, especially like, if you're set as a retiree or a pre retiree, if you're over 50, there's a good chance that you're not planning on opening any new lines of credit soon? If that's the case, is it worthwhile to freeze your credit,   Tony Mauro  20:52 I think depending on your situation, and the amount of money you have, I think it's, it's worth looking at, absolutely, because you're not gonna always unfreeze it, and you don't have any need to run out and get credit. And it's just gonna make make it that much harder for somebody to really get one over on you or, you know, get credit cards out there, it is a little bit more work to then go get some credit to unfreeze it. But again, you're not in any any real rush. So   Marc Killian  21:20 I think they've made this technology better, too, right? I think you can go on to your, to these credit rating places and just put a hole, put a freeze on it. And that basically just means nothing new can be opened under your name until you unfreeze it. And I don't think the steps are all that complicated now. So no, not like they used to be Oh, yeah. For sure. You know, just a couple little really extra steps logging in and, and Firefox and freezing it. Yeah. Yeah. So it could be worthwhile. It's a great way to protect yourself. So last piece, we'll wrap it up. I know, we're getting a little long here, folks, but just some digital housekeeping real quick. Keep your anti virus software up to date. That's a good one. What else? Tony?   Tony Mauro  21:57 I'd avoid using public Wi Fi, you know, especially definitely don't use it. And access to any type of bank info or any personal data. Yeah, you're gonna do that good point. Like, you probably   Marc Killian  22:07 have a public Wi Fi there at the office, you know, many doctors offices, lawyers, offices, so on and so forth. Right? They offer public Wi Fi while you're waiting, especially doctor's offices, right? Because you're there hours or whatever. And you want to jump on your phone and do something, well, fine. If you're using that. But keep that real basic. If you're jumping on to check your Twitter or something fine. Maybe right. But certainly don't go check. Don't go checking your bank, don't go into your banking app while you're on unsecured public Wi Fi. That's a that's a no, no, let's not do that. No, no. And then finally, you know, you talked about passcodes. And then we talked about passwords, well, make sure that you've got something on your phone that way too, right. Don't use your address as your passcode. You know, some people like to use their fingerprint, and that's fine, you know, or that design thing where you got to draw some weird pattern to unlock your phone, but just consider having secure your phone lock it up to   Tony Mauro  22:59 Yeah, even even now with the iPhone. The face ID is better than just know nothing at all. Yeah, the   Marc Killian  23:06 things would still weirds me out, though, right? I don't know how I feel about that. It's like,   Tony Mauro  23:12 I don't trust it.   Marc Killian  23:12 I don't need it. And then you got my face too. But of course, I guess at this point, everybody's posted pictures of themselves on Facebook at some points or faces or everywhere anyway. Yeah, interesting stuff. But you know, there's that two factor stuff, too, right. A lot of companies now are almost forcing you to do that. Yeah. So we make them for our payroll clients, you know, to get into their portals, we   Tony Mauro  23:32 have the two factor authentication. Yeah, for every every payroll, clients, employees, you know, and some employees really don't like it, but we tell them we're not shutting it off. Because if somebody gets in and changes your bank account information, you know, then that's going to be bad for you. And so it's for your own protection. So,   Marc Killian  23:51 definitely, well, you know, final summary folks, you know, there's a lot of scams out there. If you do think you're a victim immediately start calling the companies you need to talk to if you're working with a financial professional like Tony, for example, reach out to them and let them know so they can immediately take steps if you feel like your information has been compromised, of whatever level and of course if it's egregious enough for your concern, call the police. Whatever the case is, but take steps to protect yourself so Hopefully, this helps you out a little bit here on this episode, the financial fortress and Tony anything else where we go Oh, that's   Tony Mauro  24:22 it looking forward to next meeting.   Marc Killian  24:25 Yeah, yeah, I mean, we're gonna keep continue on with the tech stuff here again, because it is that time of year, tax season is upon us and the scammers do come out and for So protect yourself out there, folks. And if you need some help reach out with Tony and his team at your planning proz.com You're planning proz.com Don't forget to subscribe to us on Apple, Google Spotify, and we'll see you next time here on plan with the taxman.   Walter Storholt  24:52 Securities offered through a van tax investment services SM Member FINRA SIPC, investment advisory services offered Are through a VAT tax advisory services insurance services offered through an event tax affiliated Insurance Agency investment strategies discussed in this episode may not be suitable for all investors please consult with a financial professional  

Plan With The Tax Man
Are Your Good Money Habits Holding You Back? (Part 1)

Plan With The Tax Man

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 11, 2024 18:24


This episode might be a bit counterintuitive. We're going to question the real impact of common financial habits. Are the strategies you consider beneficial actually working in your favor? We explore the pros and cons of practices like ignoring account statements and strict budgeting. Join us for a practical discussion, as we uncover the unexpected effects of everyday money decisions. Are your good money habits holding you back?   Important Links: Website: http://www.yourplanningpros.com Call: 844-707-7381   ----more---- Transcript:  Marc Killian  00:00 This episode might be a bit counterintuitive, but we're going to question the real impact of common financial habits. Are your good money habits holding you back this week here on plan with the tax man? Look up in the sky. It's a bird.   Tony Mauro  00:14 It's a plane.   Announcer 2  00:16 No, it's the tax man. He may not be a superhero, but Tony Morrow has saved many retirement plans with his extreme knowledge of tax planning strategies. It's time for a plan with the tax man.   Marc Killian  00:29 Hey, everybody, welcome to the podcast mark here with Tony once again to talk investing finance in retirement. And actually we're gonna do this over a two part episode. This week's and our next episode we're going to do are those good money habits you have holding you back and basically I've got some good money habits that if we're doing good things, hey, there's nothing wrong with that. But could there be a disadvantage? Or could we be maybe going a little too far in one direction and we want to make sure we have some balance in there so that's gonna be the topic of the conversation this week with Tony here on plant with the tax man, my friend what is going on? Welcome to the new year. This is we're taping this here in early January. So I know we've all gone through the New Year stuff but Happy New Year, my friend. Same to you.   Tony Mauro  01:09 It's good to be back tax season will be here before we know it. And as we're taping this, we got a lot of snow coming down. Yeah, that's   Marc Killian  01:16 what you're telling me. You're getting Blizzard Blizzard fi so yeah, and we're getting heavy, heavy winds and storms and possible tornadoes later. So it's, it's an interesting day for us to be talking. But that's alright. We'll get in there. We'll get in here. That's how that's how determined we are in to do a good podcast, right?   Tony Mauro  01:31 That's right.   Marc Killian  01:32 Ray. What are we like the the what is it? The Postal Service? We're rain or snow? Tony and I are doing a podcast? That's right. Or good stuff? Well, Tony, this is our 100th episode, by the way. So not only are we getting hit with storms, you and I in different kinds of storms in different locations, but we're celebrating our 100th episode. So kudos to you, my friend. I feel like we need a drink or something.   Tony Mauro  01:56 We need a little celebration. As it seemed like it's been that long.   Marc Killian  02:00 I know you guys need some balloons or some scotch and or drinks or something. I'll well we won't do that. We'll keep it straight. But you know, Anyway, congratulations, and thanks, folks, for hanging out with us here for you know, whatever episodes you happen to catch, and how long have you been watching or listening? Excuse me listening to us. We certainly appreciate you. And hopefully you'll enjoy this week's content. Well, let's get into these money habits. So Tony, I want to break this up. I've got 10 of them. Okay, I want to break it up over the next two episodes, we'll do five this week. And I'll kind of give you the good okay, I'll kind of set up the the main piece here and kind of give the good you know, way of thinking about the good habit. And then you kind of maybe give us the counterpoint as to some things to think about it to where we don't drifted into a bad habit. Does that make sense? Okay. Yeah. Okay. Sounds good. All right. So let's start with ignoring our account statements, easy to do, right? We get these statements, we get things all the time. And some folks, they just, you know, open the financial drawer and toss them in there. And I guess the good side of that would be like, it avoids overreacting to short term fluctuations, right? Because you're not looking at it. Right? So you don't have to get all upset every time you go, Oh, man, it's down a little bit. Right. But why might that be a   Tony Mauro  03:08 bad idea? Well, it's, you know, it's sometimes a bad idea for a number of reasons. You know, one thing is, you may get into such a good habit, which you never look at them, and you really never know how you're doing. The other thing is, is, if there's some changes that have gone on in the account, maybe something that doesn't look right, you know, I hate to use the word fraud, but it's not, you know, it's possible in today's age, that that can be going on. There's other issues such as well, you know, you're gonna miss an opportunity maybe, to make any types of adjustments to the portfolio. So it's while it's a good idea, and I hear a lot of clients say that I don't like to look at my statement, especially if after I've watched the news, but I think you'd probably need to keep it on the good side, you need to review it at least once a quarter, you know, and not just throw them in and never review them at all, because I think you're doing yourself a disservice by doing that. And hopefully your advisor won't let you do that either. Or asking you for for a meeting every every so often. And worst case, they're going over it with you so you can at least understand what's happening.   Marc Killian  04:10 Exactly right. I mean, it's they can get confusing, I get it, but we shouldn't just always throw that stuff in the junk drawer, the financial junk drawer and not look at it. Okay, keeping a strict budget. Okay, now, this sounds like a good habit to have, right? Certainly, it helps you ensured some discipline on your spending and your saving helps you achieve your financial goals. But strict budget Oh, be careful, right. So what's some bad things to think about here? But   Tony Mauro  04:34 I think sometimes people that really love budgets, and frankly, you think an account like B would love budgets, I really don't. I don't I don't follow one I kind of do and I do in my own personal life, but I don't let it get to be too restrictive because obviously, you know, if it's too restrictive, it gets too stressful. Sure. You feel like you can't have any fun in life. And you know, I think you miss out on Some things so I'd say set a budget. Don't go overboard and feel like, you know, if you miss on some things, you really beat yourself up because it's, you know, it has to be a flexible.   Marc Killian  05:10 Yeah, exactly. The flexible diets Exactly. Yeah, exactly. Here, we're in a new year, or you're probably on some sort of diet, maybe people are right, so five people, you know, and I think that's the key to like, we get emails all the time from people, they're like, you know, I just got to retirement. And I'm really like, or the fear of like, I've been saving and been really good about saving, now I have to pull money back out, and it stresses me out, right. So they're on a budget, and they kind of maybe, then they get a little too tight. But to your point, you've saved all this money to enjoy it. And retirement, having a strategy and a plan is going to help you especially laid out in black and white, it's going to help you feel good about actually pulling that money out and using it for things that you want to so Exactly, yeah. Okay. Number three, investing in familiar stocks, again, sounds like good and practice, right? So invest in what you know, has always been sage advice over the years. And it's certainly easier to understand, you know, things when you have a familiar arity to them. But you know, I mean, all you could just, I could just throw out the word Enron as a reason why it could be bad, right? So, you know, just don't want to go overboard. And in any one thing.   Tony Mauro  06:14 Yeah. And with with your example, with Enron, for example, I mean, you what you really lack if you stick to just a few things, you know, then you lack diversification. And if any one of those particular securities in that case, you know, you mentioned Enron go bad, which went bad in a real bad way, big way, I should say. And, you know, that's really going to hurt your overall portfolio. So, you know, while you want to stick with, you don't want to get too into exotic investments and do that kind of thing. You want to work with your advisor, on diversifying your portfolio, not only for the number of types of securities, but also based on your risk, and also based on tax efficiency. So yeah, definitely. I think that that that particular one could go bad in a hurry, you   Marc Killian  07:02 know, yeah, exactly. You know, and it's like, and sometimes Well, again, I'll use some examples where we get emails and Tony to the show into to your website, where people are, like, you know, hey, I was left some, you know, an inheritance when I was left some money from or less some stock from mom or dad, you know, and dad had, you know, stock X for 40 years. And you know, he really loved that, I really love them, I don't want to sell them. And yet, you're looking at it thinking this is probably not a good thing for you to hang on to, right. And that's why I'm not gonna pick any particular company. But again, you've got like this attachment to it. And it may not be the best thing for your financial situation.   Tony Mauro  07:34 It really is. I just had a big accounting client that we do their monthly accounting for. And he's very reluctant. He's a young guy to get a 401k going for his business. And his biggest fear is that he watched his mom and dad, they worked for a company here locally, for almost all their lives. And they all of their investment, or their retirement savings was in that stock inside the 401. And it went under. Yeah, so he's very skittish of the market because of that. Yeah.   Marc Killian  08:03 I mean, I understand that, but but he's the owner of this company. Right. So he's, he's a control versus his parents who work there and didn't have control. So didn't have control. But I mean, yeah, I   Tony Mauro  08:13 mean, but the important thing is, I keep trying to tell him, as I tell most clients is, like you, we're going to, we're going to diversify, we're not just going to end up in one type of security here. Because that's recipe for potential disaster. Indeed, yeah. So I mean, again, you know, the   Marc Killian  08:26 idea here, you know, there's, there's good habits, right, investing in familiar stocks can sound like a good habit, but you gotta be careful to not let it cloud you or restrict you, again, maybe a little too much. Number four, embracing automation. So you know, we're all probably AI to death. At this point. We're tired of hearing about AI at this point. It's everywhere, and everything and every marketing thing is seems like but automation does have some good points. And certainly investing and saving simple saving stuff, right? I mean, just you know, having your money come out of your check, go right to if you're still working as a pre retiree, going right into accounts, hey, that makes things easy ensures that timely bill payment, right? You don't to worry about extra fees, because you didn't pay the light bill on time, you know, or whatever. So there's certainly some good things to automation. But I would imagine the downside, it would be maybe disengagement told me where you're again, you're no longer paying attention, like you should be.   Tony Mauro  09:19 It's that and then, you know, I think to effectively kind of ignoring technology and just refusing to maybe learn or embrace anything new. I mean, especially for retirees, my dad included, you know, he's now in his 80s he's getting like that where he don't and so I can make fun of him a little bit, but he, you know, technology, he refuses to kind of embrace it and learn it. And you know, with an AI, I think AI and all of this stuff is only going to get more and more in depth as we all age, but he's at a point where he feels like well, I don't want to learn anything new. I don't, I don't want to embrace that but then he ends up with things It's like he just had it where he accidentally turned on the. And this has nothing to do with finance. But he accidentally turned on the closed captioning on his TV and can't get it off. And nobody   Marc Killian  10:10 might come to like it. I love it. I'm only 52. And I use it all the time.   Tony Mauro  10:14 He likes it. So yeah, I mean, so he's mad about that. But again, he, he struggles with technology. But I think it's one thing to you know, especially as you get older, maybe you don't want to get too far into it. But I do think you need to keep up. Yeah. And at least tight, you know, don't ignore it completely. terms, and   Marc Killian  10:31 I'm with you there my mom's 82. And she actually has, she actually has a pretty good grasp on some technology. And she does pretty well with it. But then at some other times, I'm like, you know, she'll ask me the same question like for the 30th time, and I'm like, How can you remember all this other stuff? If you can't remember this? I don't know. Yeah, at me alone?   Tony Mauro  10:49 Well, right. But like my, my dad, you know, with in most advisory firms, and really, even if you're doing it on your own, you know, you're logging into a portal, you're looking at your account. If you can't do that, you know, yes, you will get a statement. But everything's going to online. And like said, You gotta at least be able to function and do some of that stuff.   Marc Killian  11:12 Yeah, definitely. So I mean, again, automation can be really useful. So just make sure you're also not, you know, setting and I think think about like this too, right, Tony, the set it and forget it mentality that we talked about sort of with the statements can also kind of bite you here on the digital side, too. Right? You might set up your target date fund, for example, 15 years ago, or something like that. And you're like, it's gonna take care of it for me, and it kind of does. But could there be better options? Right? Could it be better things for you to be doing? So? Alright, and then also the fifth one here, we'll wrap it up this week, then we'll come back in a couple of weeks and do the other five of good money habits. So patients patients getting into the stock market? Well, no, scratch your head a little bit. Good. The good side? Well, I mean, that means I'm not making a mistake, I'm thinking things through, right. I mean, I'm not being irrational or anything like that, right. But you can also pretty obvious here, you can also just sit with your thumb in your ear forever and not do anything, right. You gotta be careful with your patients levels,   Tony Mauro  12:09 as in the first thing that pops into my mind is the whole market timing. Yeah, and people that want to try that and think that they can out smart the market as a whole, it's impossible to do. And, you know, there's, you can just go out and Google things like now and you'll find the studies if you missed the best five days, 10 days in the market, or whatever, timeframe over the elbow, or whatever timeframe you want to use, and you'll see how low your returns are. And so you don't want to be too patient and try to be too picky. The best thing probably, is to dollar cost average and constantly be putting money in good times and bad into whatever you plan, I'd say the market but whatever, right? You are investing in, yep, to avoid that to avoid, you know, getting that emotion into it. And just, you know, make it a habit. A lot of times you can do it through your paychecks, we've talked about it before 401, KS, and that kind of thing. But that's really what you're forcing yourself to do is to not not get stuck in that rut,   Marc Killian  13:11 L for sure. Because sometimes people will see these questions too, where it's like, hey, the markets kind of doing bad. I think I'm gonna pull back on my, you know, my contributions to right, you know, and it's like, but I'll pick it back up whenever things, you know, tip the other way. It's like, No, you're looking at that entirely wrong. Right? Yes. Yeah, it's dipping a little bit. And that's not the most pleasant thing, but you're getting it on the cheaper your dollar cost average. And so keep pumping it in. Right?   Tony Mauro  13:34 It is it's funny that we have clients with their employees that do it in their 401 K's that will say that exact thing is, you know what, I'm gonna I'm gonna pull this back. Mark's not doing very well. So in other words, you're trying to time it because you think that because the markets down? Like you said, that's the exact worst time you want to do it. You want to be in there. What, Why, why you're where your money goes a little further. So we try to talk them out of it. Some of them do, some of them don't. And then the bad thing too, is sometimes people will forget to change it back. Exactly. Yeah. Contributing? Yep. Um, so that's a tough one to see. And I don't advise doing that. Yep, for sure. Do that people   Marc Killian  14:09 do it? Yep. That's where, and that's where some of these good habits sometimes can, you know, best intentions, right. But they wind up kind of maybe backfiring a little bit too. So you always, you know, life is long. You know, life is designed to stay on the ball. You know, we can we can let things slide a little bit here. My wife and I were just laughing about when I had open heart surgery almost 11 years ago. Now. I had to go on this diet. And we're dieting right now in the new year, to your point a second ago in your tongue, being flexible. And it's like, you know, for you to just this diet we're on right now is actually working pretty well. And it's not too bad. And we're actually kind of doing all right with it's like, why didn't we do this versus that hardcore crashing? I had open heart surgery. So we went to the extreme level with some extreme diet, right? And it didn't stick and here we are 13 or excuse me 11 years later, you know, and starting all over again. And it's like it could have been As if we did just, you know, moderation if we would have gone with a reasonable diet versus some extreme thing. And I think that's what happens sometimes financially, we'd have some big a moment financially that happens to us. And we get a little extreme instead of being a little more prudent or being calculating with our moves. I suppose that makes sense. I think so. Yeah. Cool. Well, good. So that's open that translated?   Tony Mauro  15:22 I mean, I think you're exactly right, that whole new year's resolutions and dieting and everything else people try. I mean, we could talk for an hour on just that kind of stuff not even related to   15:33 right. But it means thinking about your findings, or look at the market, for example. So in December, we'll wrap it up here with this, Tony, but in December, right, so you know, late in the fourth quarter, the Fed had their their meetings, right. And they talked about various different things. And they're like, Well, we're gonna not we didn't do anything, and then we're gonna see you, and we're gonna hit pause, and we're gonna wait. And then in December, they go, Oh, we're gonna cut rates probably in 2024. Well, the market loves that idea. Right. So the market got very excited as the year went on down, but then January started, and and some of the reasons why they started, I think, maybe, you know, the prognosticators or whatever, sort of looking at some of the reasons why the Fed was thinking about cutting rates. And then they went, Oh, well, maybe it's not that great, after all. So the markets been off to a rough, rocky, rocky start here, this first part of the year, you know, and I just was on a call yesterday, where, you know, basically, it's a market update from basically our advisory firm, you know, and they've been talking about this for a couple of months. But I think this goes back to our points about the, what they're calling The Magnificent Seven stocks of the s&p 500, that actually accounted for almost all of its gains in 2023. And you know, they were playing it well. But yeah, but if those weren't in there, then the gains would have only eroded or the return would only been X. And, you know, I'm sitting there thinking over these months, everybody interprets these numbers a little differently. You can you can slant them any way to make whatever you're talking about   Tony Mauro  16:56 look good. And I think that back to our big point of people need to be investing regularly, in good times and bad because if you're trying to, you're trying to handpick, and again, market time and do everything else, you're gonna end up with not a lot of return, and definitely not going to meet your goals. Definitely,   Marc Killian  17:15 definitely. So again, so good habits can be, you know, be very helpful, but they can lead us astray sometimes. So be careful with that. That's gonna wrap it up this week here on the podcast, we'll be back with the second half, and just a couple of weeks, so don't forget to subscribe to us here on playing with the tax man at your planning proz.com. That's you're planning proz.com. You can find a lot of tools, tips and resources at Tony's website. And of course, you can check him out on Apple, Google Spotify. I keep saying Google, but it's it's really YouTube now. So Apple, Spotify, and they've converted everything to YouTube. So either way, you can find all the information that you're planning. proz.com Tony, thanks for hanging out, my friend. I'll see you in a couple weeks. All right, we'll see you next time. We'll catch you next time right here on playing with a tax man with Tony Morrow.   Walter Storholt  18:03 Securities offered through a van tax investment services SM Member FINRA SIPC investment advisory services offered through advanced tax advisory services insurance services offered through an event tax affiliated Insurance Agency. Investment strategies discussed in this episode may not be suitable for all investors. Please consult with a financial professional.  

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Easy Wins in Personal Finance (Part 2)

Plan With The Tax Man

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Welcome to part 2 of our discussion on easy wins in personal finance! It's important to eventually get a comprehensive financial plan for yourself, but sometimes even just a few minor adjustments in your portfolio can make a big difference. Let's discuss a few more easy places to start...   Important Links: Website: http://www.yourplanningpros.com Call: 844-707-7381   ----more---- Transcript:    Marc Killian  00:00 We're picking up with part two of easy wins and personal finance. With Tony Morrow this week, we're gonna pick up where we left off on our conversation for the prior podcast, going through 10 places where hopefully you can make some adjustments to get you into better shape. So that's the focus of the podcast this week here on playing with the tax man. Look up in the sky. It's a bird.   Announcer 2  00:21 It's a plane. No, it's the tax man. He may not be a superhero. But Tony Morrow has saved many retirement plans with his extreme knowledge of tax planning strategies. It's time for a plan with the tax man.   Marc Killian  00:36 Hey, everybody, welcome into the podcast, Tony and I wrapping up 2023. With our second half of the conversation on easy wins and personal finance. And Tony where you can you know, we're taping this, about two or three days before Christmas. I tried to finish up work this week before we all get out of here and and celebrate the holidays. But can you believe 23 is almost over crazy.   Tony Mauro  00:58 I can't believe it. I know it seems like the older I get, the faster these years go by. And it's interesting, but I you know what, the older I get to though, the more I look forward to the holidays, and spending time with family. So hopefully, everybody can, you know, can relate to that get that done as well, as they can expose? Yeah, well, if   Marc Killian  01:18 you're checking out the podcast, we're dropping this on Thursday, the 21st. So you got just a couple of holiday shopping days left. So hopefully, you've already got that stuff out of the way. And you don't have to run around like a crazy person. But if you do, be safe, and be sane, and all that good kind of stuff out there. And for now, just hang out with us and then listen to a couple more things here. So we're gonna go through six through 10. Tony, on our list of 10 things to work on. So let's let's pick it up with number six, which is certainly right in your wheelhouse. It's the tax efficiency of your investments. So not all investments are tax efficient, right. And so this could be a great place that you could do some tweaks and make some changes, working with your professional, your advisor to you know, really get some good wins.   Tony Mauro  02:03 Yeah, and you know, this time a year, for us, you know, a lot of our clients are asking these these types of questions and tax efficiency. I mean, you know, they get a little confused when they hear it, whether it's, you know, on the news or wherever, and really, it comes down to, you know, being able to analyze what you have, and making sure that, you know, it's not causing you any ill effects tax wise. I mean, and there's a number of ways, you know, that we do that. I mean, for our clients, I mean, we have some, some software and some calculations and whatnot, but you know, you can run it with your advisor, or at least inquire but, you know, not all assets are basically equal in terms of the way that you know, that they're taxed, and how they're treated for taxes. I mean, a lot of times we think, you know, clients will ask us, Well, you know, I've got such and such stock, or sometimes even bonds, you know, that I can sell and take a loss on. But a lot of times, you know, we'll do some tax planning with clients, and then we'll get their statements. And all of a sudden, they'll have some kind of huge capital gain that they didn't tell us about maybe maybe not even unknown about you, and especially in funds. And so then that goes on their tax return, you know, and then all of a sudden, they have a higher tax bill. The other interesting culprits are high dividend paying stocks, which we advocate. And then also interest in bonds and or other types of investments. And those two things are treated differently for taxes. So you got to kind of watch out for that, because bonds and CDs and stuff like that are taxed at normal tax rates, and which is generally higher than stocks. So you've got to make that this this whole thing part of your plan. Like say, if nothing else for taxes. Yeah,   Marc Killian  03:43 and exactly. And this is, I mean, I think outside of having the income plan so that you know how much you've got coming in, you know, each month in retirement, I think this is probably the number two spot, right? I mean, this is where you can truly make or break a strategy. So being tax efficient. And you know, you started out with saying people get a little confused here, and that's exactly why they should turn to professionals in this regard. Because if you've been DIY in it, right, you can, you can grow the wealth. We talked about that all the time, you can grow the wealth a lot easier. You know, certainly over the last number of years, it's a little easier to kind of build up money versus that preservation phase that distribution phase which is retirement and boy being tax efficient could make a big ol big ol swing there so it can over long periods of time especially Yeah. 2530 year retirement that's a long time so so tax efficiency number six number seven, check those beneficiary designations Now we talked about easy wins. So you might guess you could make the argument Mark taxes aren't that easy for me to fix? Okay, fine, fair. So we're cleaning that one up with number seven which is tax or check beneficiary designations. This is an easy win to anybody can get done and should do Tony this. This should not happen like those stories that just about every advisor has about someone getting remarried and then passing away and the ex spouse still being on some accounts on place. and they shouldn't happen, because it's just so easy. You can fix this stuff in like five minutes, you   Tony Mauro  05:04 can, and this, to me needs to be part of everybody's, you know, annual, I guess, review slash plan wherever they do, you need to add this one because it is easy to fix. Now, obviously you got to know where what you have and where it's at. And then you've got to contact, you know, custodians and things like that to, you know, just to double check. It would behoove you, though, to make a list of everything you have, keep it on your own, right what your beneficiaries are, that's what I do. And then it's part of my review process just for my own self. And we do it for every client, as well as, here's the beneficiaries you had last year, anything changed anything, you know, that we need to add? Because, like you say, things do happen. And I think I might have mentioned this on the last show or a while back, I was just checking mine as part of this year, and I found one that I did not have, yeah, you did. Yes, son. Yeah, as a contingent beneficiary. So you know, I just missed it. And, you know, easy change took about 10 minutes did it right online, and fixed it. But if you don't do this bad things can happen. And some of the worst generally are what like, say when a spouse dies? Or a divorce? Yeah. And then it's just a real ugly legal mess.   Marc Killian  06:15 So don't let that happen. Because this is this is an easy one. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, this one, the one, we don't spend much time on this, just get it done. If you've got a professional you're working with, just ring them up and say, Hey, I'm getting a divorce got a divorce, you're probably talking to them anyway, I need to make some changes, or you know, somebody's passed away, and you want to remove them or whatever the case is, just just take five minutes and do it. So Alright, number eight, rebalance the old portfolio. I feel like I should because it's Christmas time, I should say like rebalance ye portfolio. Yield portfolio. You know, rebalancing, I think some of us kind of feel like this happens automatically. And maybe, depending on how things are set up, it could, but you know, is it rebalancing the way that you really, truly need it to? And how easy is this to do? Tony? Like, I think in today's world, right, with so much stuff on these online portals, you probably can go rebalance some of this stuff yourself pretty easily. If you know what you're   Tony Mauro  07:07 doing. Yeah, yeah, if you know what you're doing, you definitely can, you know, it's, it's wise to, you know, make sure that your your rebalance strategy fits your needs, rather than just a general, you know, 60% or 15%. Yeah, you know, in in each type of fund or investment, because what happens is, again, in the investment, world rebalancing, that's kind of some, some, maybe lingo that people don't understand, but what happens is, if you've got your money, you know, diversified in different types of sectors, or, you know, asset classes, some do very well and others don't. And so then you get out of balance, meaning that you might have too much in one sector or asset class, because it did so well. And you want to rebalance that. So in other words, you know, you've kind of taken advantage of, you know, the old, the real thing, you know, buying high and selling low is, you know, you want to rebalance and keep your same percentages, so that based on, you know, whatever your plan is, it doesn't get too out of whack, because we've had it too, or some people will come in they haven't rebalanced for years, and all of a sudden, they have much, much more exposure to, you know, higher risk type of operator investments. And, and they're nearing retirement. And so, you know, luckily, in the cases I've seen, nothing bad has happened, but it could before you get it rebalanced. Sure.   Marc Killian  08:26 Yeah, definitely. So, again, get it done, you know, talk to your advisor, this is something that can be pretty quick. If you're using an online portal, you probably could go in there and make a couple changes and, or even just look at the automation is there to a lot of times, you know, there's I think there's like even checkboxes to automate for rebate is Yeah, yeah,   Tony Mauro  08:43 a lot. A lot of portfolios now, especially if they're using individual fund managers will rebalance automatically. It's their job to go in and do it, you know, rather than having to have you worry about doing it. So if that's available, it's worth looking at. Okay.   Marc Killian  08:56 All right. Number nine, are you under estimating your proper emergency fund? Now, when we did the one last time, right, we kind of framed the conversation on, the first one was keeping the right amount of cash. And we kind of talked about that from a standpoint of maybe being retired, right, just having some cash on hand, I think the emergency funds side of this conversation, you could kind of maybe make the argument that this is pretty similar. But let's talk about this one, if you're still working if you're a pre retiree, right, so understanding your proper emergency fund balance, if you're a pre retiree, in case you do lose your job, especially with a lot of the things that are happening here as the years winding down, you know, there's still a lot of talk that 2024 is gonna be a fairly rough year and businesses have been cutting, you know, cutting people already, right. So you want to make sure you got that emergency fund set, in case, you know, you got to float yourself for a couple of months.   Tony Mauro  09:43 Yeah. And generally, in the financial planning realm, you know, the ego out and Google things and you're gonna get a lot of different answers, but kind of the standard is, you know, three to six months of your monthly living expenses, and that's a good start, but I Do you think you need to take it a step further as work with your advisor on truly what your, you know, lifestyle is and what your expenses are, because maybe you want to up that a little bit, maybe you've underestimated just how much that really is. So six months, you know, what you thought might have been doable might be Ooh, boy, you know, that's a lot to try to try to get to, I still think you should shoot for it. But like you say, in the corporate world, especially with with cuts and things like that you never know, when you could possibly be out of a job. And you know, how hard it is to find a new one. I mean, generally, these days everybody's looking for looking for employees, but that doesn't mean you know, you're going to just grab something real quick. And so I think it's a lot easier to, you know, to figure this out. And I, we asked everybody at tax time, even our retail tax clients, and very, very few even have one, number one, we talked about that last time, but once you have one, you gotta be able to fund it. And you gotta be able to adjust it as your as your lifestyle changes,   Marc Killian  11:00 for sure. Yeah, I mean, think about the different lessons we've learned over over the last few years, right, with the COVID situation, people getting locked out of work and whatnot, you know, and having to have some money to float and get by. So if you're still working and getting good idea, rule of thumb, sure a three month thing is is a great place to start with the rule of thumb rule of thumb, but just also do some a little bit extra digging, just to make sure that that is the right amount for you. Like you said, you can shoot for six, that's even better. So yeah, absolutely. All right, final one here, number 10. automate your savings. We just talked about automation a little bit with the portfolio, but automating the savings, right? So an easy win to get yourself where you want to be. I just what was this I just saw something the other day, Tony, where somebody said, I am blown away by the fact that, you know that if I over the course of time, if I've saved like $100,000, you know, from from a long, long period of time starting younger, that it can easily turn into a million by the time I'm older due to compounding, right. And so it's the idea of, you know, consistently putting money away all through our life, for our retirement well on all these automated things we have now can really help that along as well. So if you're still working, pre retiree, or even some, you know, share this message in a lot of our audiences, you typically, you know, retirees and pre retirees but share it with your grandkids too, right? Hey, automate those savings, you're out in the workforce now, start automating this stuff, and you'd be surprised what happens when you get older.   Tony Mauro  12:20 Yeah, it really is true. And with with today, especially with the technology to be able to do this fairly easily. And you're never gonna amazes me, you're never gonna never, never miss it, you got to learn to live without it. We're such a society, at least in America, you know, want want want everything. Right, that delayed satisfaction, I   Marc Killian  12:40 just I that was almost like, Charlie is almost like Charlie Brown's teacher, right there, you see, wow,   Tony Mauro  12:45 yeah, we just want want, and I'm reading a book, it has to do with physical activity and whatnot. But it's a great saying, and you can apply it here, really, to any of these, and that is that, you know, when you make hard choices, life becomes easy. When you make easy choices, life's can get very hard, which means, you know, in the text of, you know, you have to be able to do some of these things, which seem hard, they're really not, but it takes some discipline, it takes some delayed satisfaction, which is, you know, saving, number one is that, but automating it will help you learn to live without it. And, you know, you forget about it, you know, and then the next thing you know, you know, 3040 years go by, and all of a sudden life is easy for you. And whereas if you don't do this, and as you know, you know, most of us, you get your paycheck, you've got bills to pay, and then you pay your bills, and then you always pay yourself last. And that's exactly the wrong thing to do. This forces you to pay yourself first. And I can't stress that enough, whether it's through your paycheck with with your retirement plan, or even outside of that, it's pretty easy to set up any type of investment to just go into a bank account or savings and, or whatever you tell it to pull out, you know, and put it in the investment as you go. I mean, nobody's doing it for us, right. And it's right, very few of us have have those, those pension plans anymore, so it's up to us. So we've definitely got to try to take care of   Marc Killian  14:12 And then wonder if you can automate this stuff, and like I said, you're never gonna see it, then great. And most again, most of you're still working 401 K plans and things of that nature. And you can certainly, obviously, automate this stuff. But you know, you can automate some additional savings too, especially if you're still working. And you feel like you're behind and we've talked many times about little things like the ketchup contributions and various different things. So you know, if you're in a position where you can put a little extra way, there's nothing wrong with feathering the nest for later on down the way right,   Tony Mauro  14:39 that's right, especially just like the last one just talk about automate the emergency fund get it got a little money you know, going in every single month, and again, you won't miss it and then all of a sudden that's that's kind of on autopilot and hey, you know, before long then now you have what you need.   Marc Killian  14:54 Exactly. That's a great point to automate that. That urgency fun, good stuff. All right. Well, Tony, thank you, my friend for hanging out with me. Thanks for hanging out with me all year long as we've gone through is hopefully hopefully shared right some useful nuggets of information. Yeah, the listeners. And of course if you haven't subscribed or you have and you know somebody else who might could benefit from you know the podcast and picking up some, you know some useful tidbits along the way, let them know that they can subscribe to plan with a tax man on Apple, Google Spotify and whatever platform you like using, just type that into the search box or have them go by and we'll give them this website right here. You're planning proz.com That's your planning proz.com where you can find a lot of good tools, tips and resources. Stop by there yourself if you're not already working with Tony and check out some things there. And don't forget to subscribe to us on the podcast as well. And that way you can catch future episodes as well as check out some past episodes and we'll be back with new episodes in 2024, which is really weird to say, Tony,   Tony Mauro  15:52 I know Yeah, I'm looking forward to it and hopefully everybody else's to I've enjoyed the year and hope everybody has a great Christmas.   Marc Killian  16:00 Yeah, indeed have a great holiday season all the way across the board. And Tony and I will be back in January here on a plan with the taxman.   Walter Storholt  16:16 Securities offered through a van tax investment services SM Member FINRA SIPC investment advisory services offered through a van tax advisory services insurance services offered through an event tax affiliated Insurance Agency  

Startup Insider
Flix • Signa Prime • Startup-Verband • OpenAI • neoom • Google • Spotify • Koa • Coachbetter • Scailyte

Startup Insider

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 11, 2023 13:52


Heute u.A. mit diesen Themen:Flix gewinnt vor Gericht gegen DBBericht: Signa Prime vor InsolvenzantragNeues Vorstandsteam beim Startup-VerbandGrößte Gründerfabriken in EuropaClimateTech-Investitionen stabilOpenAI: Kartellbehörde prüft Microsofts EinflussEntlassungen bei neoomGemini-Demo: Google gibt Inszenierung zuSpotify-CFO verlässt Unternehmen15 Millionen US-Dollar für KoaCoachbetter erweitert Seed-FinanzierungScailyte stockt Series-A-Runde auf

Digital Bash Podcast
Weekly Update: ChatGPT Voice für alle

Digital Bash Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 24, 2023 6:01


Du kannst jetzt ganz einfach mit ChatGPT reden – auch wenn du nicht für Plus oder Enterprise zahlst. OpenAI hat inmitten einer aufregenden und wegweisenden Woche für das ganze Unternehmen, ja für die ganze Branche, für zahlreiche User ein hilfreiches Feature Update geliefert und ChatGPT Voice für alle zur Verfügung gestellt. In der App kannst du es direkt ausprobieren. In der neuesten Folge des Digital Bash Podcast Weekly Update erzählt dir OnlineMarketing.de-Redakteur Niklas Lewanczik mehr über die Rückkehr von Sam Altman und Greg Brockman, das Hin und Her um die Führungsetage des für die AI-Entwicklung so wichtigen Unternehmens und die Möglichkeiten, die ChatGPT, aber auch andere Player wie Anthropic und Stable Diffusion neuerdings bieten (ein neues Video-KI-Tool und eine optimierte Chatbot-Version sind mit dabei). Darüber hinaus geht Niklas auf einen großen Werbeboykott auf X ein (an dem auch Disney und Apple mitwirken), spricht über diverse Feature Updates auf Instagram, die Creatorn das Löschen von DMs und langfristige Anzeigen von Stories ermöglichen, und thematisiert aktuelle Prognosen, Zahlen und Einschätzungen zum Black Friday und zur Cyber Week. Zudem geht es um Snapchats werbefreie Experience und einen einst geheimen Deal zwischen Spotify und Google. Einige der wichtigsten Themen der Woche findest du hier:Prompte Rückkehr: Sam Altman und Greg Brockman wieder bei OpenAI ChatGPT Voice für alle Nutzer:innen verfügbarAI Feature Updates: Stable Video Diffusion und neue Claude-Variante als ChatGPT-KonkurrenzInstagram: Spam Follower herausfiltern und DMs löschenInstagram Stories für 7 Tage: My Week Feature im TestInstagram Reels in Stories im Vollbild – Anpassung durch FingerspitzenX: Darum stoppen Disney, Apple, IBM und Co. ihre Ads Black Friday 2023: Zahlen, Insights und PrognosenGeheimer Deal mit Google: Spotify umgeht Play Store-ProvisionVerpasse keine News aus der Online-Marketing-Welt und höre dir die Folge direkt an, um in unter 10 Minuten dein Update zu den wichtigsten Entwicklungen aus der Branche zu erhalten.Informiere dich auch über unseren Digital Bash und bleibe up to date, Tag für Tag.Das OnlineMarketing.de Team wünscht dir ein fantastisches Wochenende. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Plan With The Tax Man
Retirement Planning's “Hidden” Questions

Plan With The Tax Man

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 19, 2023 15:06


The retirement planning world is filled with plenty of advice and suggestions, but there are critical questions lurking in the shadows – the unasked, the overlooked. These are the questions that can help define the comfort and security of your retirement future. On this episode, we unearth and tackle these hidden, but essential questions about retirement. Important Links: Website: http://www.yourplanningpros.com Call: 844-707-7381 ----more---- Transcript:  Marc Killian  00:36 Hey, everybody, welcome into the podcast. Thanks for tuning in once again with Tony and myself as we talk investing finance and retirement here on plan with the tax man and Tony is the tax man at tax Doctor Inc, serving folks all around the area. So if you've got some questions, got some concerns, need some help? When it comes to all things with your retirement reached out to Tony, who is a CPA CFP and an EA of 27 plus years experience and a great resource for you to tap into it. You're planning proz.com? That's your planning proz.com? Tony, my friend what's going on, buddy? How are you?   Tony Mauro  01:08 I'm doing good. As we as we're taping this just kind of getting ready to wrap up the 2022 Filing Season, believe it or not so well upon the extension deadline.   Marc Killian  01:17 That's, that's so wild that is that that late, you know. Yeah. But hopefully you didn't have to struggle to hopefully, hopefully anyway.   Tony Mauro  01:25 Yeah, hopefully not. I mean, in, you know, a lot of people starting to think about, you know, you're in tax planning and next year. So this is a good, good time to talk about some of this stuff.   Marc Killian  01:34 Yeah. And, you know, I've got, we're kind of called this hidden questions or overlooked. And I think a lot of these that we're going to go through a couple of them here, Tony, I think people probably we all know a lot of this, but I think what happens is, we often tend to get our focus in one or two areas, sometimes when it comes to retirement planning, or whatever the case might be, we tend to often focus, you know, really on like this larger item, and then some of these smaller ones, while we are aware, they maybe don't get the attention that they should unless, of course, you're working with a financial professional. So let's talk about them a little bit, and just discuss it obviously, you know, as a tax practice, as that's a huge part of what you guys do as well, you know, a question might be eventually, hopefully, people realize, hey, you know, in the end, what's these tax deferred savings accounts going to actually cost me in taxes? Because at some point, you know, again, if you think about focus, it's easy to go, Well, hey, let's kick that tax burden down the road. So I don't get to deal with it for a while, but eventually, a while shows up, right? Eventually, you got to pay the piper. So   Tony Mauro  02:32 yeah, and, you know, this is the biggest question that we try to answer for people, and try to let them know that, you know, you have a partner it generally with with it with this handout, and I, you know, I we make fun of the government, because that's Uncle Sam, you know, so, you know, a lot of people don't realize that, you know, a part of this money you have, you have an IOU to the federal government. Well, in the States, maybe for that matter for   Marc Killian  02:56 this training, you know, and I think, Tony, I think we realize it, right, I think we just forget it, because if you spend 20 or 30 years, punting, you know, the tax ball, then you kind of go all the sudden one day you go, Ah, crap, right? Yeah, I forgot about then,   Tony Mauro  03:10 So what we try to do, though, is with our retirees, especially, is to let them know, if you do have tax money in tax deferred accounts, that there when you start pulling that money out, right, you know, some of it is going to be taxable. And what we try to work with them on is using other monies first, and then filling up the tax brackets that they're already in, and not jumping to the next one, because they've already got, you know, a tax issue. Let's not compound it and make it worse. And so I think that's important to work with your tax person or advisor, especially in retirement to make sure you're not just needlessly pulling money out. Yeah. So you can kind of control your tax bill a little bit, but there are, you know, for the younger people, the Roth and things like that Roth 401, K's where you're not going to have this issue, and so those will become attractive. But yeah, that's a whole nother conversation. Yeah,   Marc Killian  03:58 for sure. And, you know, if we kind of set this framework around the hypothetical numbers, we'll just go with the easy million dollar math, you know, million dollars in a 401. K, and we can kind of use this for a couple of these questions here. Yeah, you know, you sit there and say, and I get it, it's sexy. It's like, who I'm a millionaire, I can't wait to say that, or whatever. And you're not to your point, because you're really more like a 700,000 year or so. Because, you know, you gotta give Uncle Sam bell 30%, you know, or roughly right, depending on every situation can be different. So you don't really have the million and that leads to my second question, which is, you know, how much can I withdrawal from my savings each year? And if we're using that same million dollar analogy, Tony, a lot of people, they they hear the 4% rule, they think, Hey, that's a good place to start the conversation. And it can be it's a good place to start the chat. But that's, you know, if you go with 4%, you're talking about 40 grand a year off the million but as we just said, you may not have a full million because you got to still pay the taxes because you've been deferring. So now you got what 700 grand that's what 28,000 A year right. So I mean, it just starts To change all the numbers,   Tony Mauro  05:01 it does. And what we look at it when we're working with people is we either use the four, sometimes 5% rule, and just using the 40,000 a year because most people don't want to dip into their principal, they want to say, well, what can I earn? And, you know, if we if we get something conservative in urine and 4% of the 40? Well, we have to tell them again, you're not going to get 40, because we have to pay tax on that. And so it's going to be, you know, a little bit different. And that's when they get a little surprised. Like, what I didn't know that. And so we don't want what their first response is, is, like I said, they said, well, I'll just take out more say, Well, yeah, but then you're gonna have the next tax bracket potentially in kind of all kinds of issues. So it's important that where I think this is where the visor can really show their their value or worth is being able to work with this and keeping your taxes to a minimum.   Marc Killian  05:51 Yeah, I mean, because think about, you know, the future you right. So we often, you know, with these first two categories, Tony, we were kind of punting or wondering what we're going to do later on, don't forget that later, you is standing down the road somewhere waving at you going, hey, don't forget about me, you know, we got to be efficient with not only our spending and our budgeting and things of that nature, I know, everybody hates the B word, but still just having some sort of a, an incoming out, you know, outflow kind of projection is certainly important. So those are the first two. Number three is the life insurance question, right? So again, maybe not necessarily hidden. But if we've been trained, just like we have with the tax deferred accounts, to have life insurance, when we're in our 30s, or 40s. And our kids are younger, and, you know, case, something happens, income replacement, send   Tony Mauro  06:37 them to college, if I die, that kind of thing. We're trained on that we're also trained that, well, we probably don't need that when we're an older person, right, when we don't need it when we're over 70. But life insurance has changed so much that it could actually be a real swiss army knife for a lot of things. No, it could. And I think the question should be, you may not need the same type of insurance, that when you were young, but if you've got a policy that you know, you bought a long time ago, it's still viable, there may be some very useful uses for these policies. Because just because you have, like you said, everything paid off and kids out, you may still, like, in my own case, if my wife dies, you know, a big part of her retirement is IPERs. And which is a pension she can't outlive. But if she were to pre deceased me that I would get a payout on that. But that wouldn't really be enough to cover a lot of years in retirement for me. So for me life policy on her still makes sense. Even if she's retired, especially, you know, if I've got it, and it's doesn't cost a whole lot. Now, I think where people get a little confused is like, well, you know, I'm 65 years old or something, life's too expensive. It may be at that point. But we're talking more, you know, something you bought a while back. So I think in certain cases, again, another issue that you need to talk to your advisor about all of these, I think you should, but because it may not be Who've you just to cancel them all, especially depending on your situation. And then   Marc Killian  08:05 of course, if you if you did cancel something because you just under that old school mindset, and then you do need it, it's harder to get it back. Because your order and back. I mean, the insurance, right, we're all one blood test away from being uninsurable. Right. Yeah, exactly. Depending on what could happen there. And so lots of different ways to consider and again, I think, again, life insurance could be a real utility, Swiss Army Knife kind of thing for folks. There's the death benefits. Sure, there's still the living benefits, there's income replacement. I mean, you might still need income replacement in your seven you might Yeah, you know, tax free retirement, just lots of different things to at least have the conversation on. For sure. So number four, medical coverage. So a kind of a hidden question or might be alright, again, maybe not hidden, but just kind of we well, I got Medicare so groovy. I don't do any anything over and above that, though, in the answer is probably right. You're probably gonna need something. District Medicare. Yeah.   Tony Mauro  08:58 Yeah. I always tell clients Well, the short answer is yes. I said, but if you want to, don't want to take my word for it, let's the first time you're sick, wait till you get that bill, and watch what Medicare does not cover. So there's a lot of things. This is a whole profession. Now. I was gonna say to you and of itself. Yeah. Do you guys have somebody in house? Or do you refer people? A lot of advisors definitely suggest for folks to talk to Medicare specialists? Yes. I don't have anybody in house. I refer people out okay, to a local guy who's a Medicare specialist, you know, that can help them. Explain what Medicare covers and what it does and then all the different options they have because you can you can buy a lot of gap policies and supplements so that you can really feel good about okay, I'm pretty much covered for everything, but you obviously got to know the cost. Sure, because it does add up. Yeah, but yeah, I think Medicare for me, what I tell people is that's going to cover major things, and that's a good start. But, boy, if we're all living too long, we all hit you know, people start to get ailments. You're gonna We spend a lot of money quick on other types of medical care if you just have Medicare, so I strongly encourage them to visit with somebody.   Marc Killian  10:08 And if you think about, really what retirement can entail nowadays, depending on you know, the walk of life you're in or where you find yourself, you know, you almost really do truly need a team or a group of folks. You know, you need that financial professional, you need that CPA right. Now, if you're lucky, you might have somebody who's a CPA and a CFP on one like, Tony, right, but you need that tax person, you need that planning person. Elder Law, probably some sort of attorney. Yeah, right. And then maybe a Medicare specialist. So it's almost like, you know, it's part of the basketball, no pun here. But I was like the dream team, right? You need three or four players to help you out. You're the fifth, you go, that was four different categories. And we're the fifth. So there you go. There's our dream team. That's our basketball team. Alright, number five, how much am I really paying in those fees? And commissions? This is the only one probably that is truly a hidden question on this, that I think we, you know, most people just don't even realize how much stuff is actually hidden in the fine print. Because Tony, many people will go, Oh, my guy or gal charges me 1%. Right. And they think that's the end of it. So Tony charges me 1%. That's all I'm paying. Yeah, but what do you have? And what do those products have inside them?   Tony Mauro  11:19 That's right, because and we try to educate clients that Yeah, even though you're an advisor relationship with us, if we're managing assets for you, whether it's 1%, or three quarters of 1%, if you have funds or different things, outside of just plain old stocks, there are expenses inside those funds, you never see because they always, you know, basically take it off the return before anybody ever talks about returns. And so it's important to try to drill down and just make sure you understand, you know, all of the expenses you've got. And sometimes, you know, it's worth it. And sometimes it's not, we try to keep expenses low, because obviously at the end of the day, it cuts into your return, which means that, you know, less money for you. But at the same time, which I you know, I think we do a fairly good job of educating the client of, you know, nobody does anything for free, the mutual funds don't work for free, we don't work for free, right? Hopefully, you're getting some value out of this. But just so that they know, and the bad part is, is we have to re educate usually about every year, every other year, depending just to make sure that they haven't forgotten because they do they just they've completely started getting oblivious to it. Yeah, very true. Very true. But most of them, they always defer back and say, Well, you know, we just kind of hope you're gonna watch those fees for us, which we do. And we you know, but, you know, if you have concerns, I would definitely say, don't be afraid to ask your advisor, because if they're good, they're going to explain this to you and make sure that you understand how it works.   Marc Killian  12:52 Yeah, and have a fee analysis done, right. Because, you know, sometimes people will have that they get that delusion in their head, or whatever you want to call it, that they're paying, you know, the 1%. And, but then, you know, alright, I've got this, you know, Product X, and it's paying me, you know, 5%, and I'm only paying 1% to my guy or gal, so cool, I'm making four. And then you want to do an n Fe analysis and looking at what's inside that product X that you've got, and maybe there's another percent or percent in a quarter in there. And so now you're only making you know, 2.75, right, or something like that. So it which may be fine, but it may drive the vehicle, but it may not either, right? So find out and have that conversation. So that's why these are five questions that can get a little hidden or overlooked. You know, sometimes they straight up high. And other times, it's just we take our focus off of it. We take our focus off of the you know, the the money we've been saving for retirement if it's all tax deferred, because we forget, after so many years of doing it that eventually we got to pay Uncle Sam, we know it, but yet we tend to you know, look away from it. So lots of these reasons why these hidden questions can come back to bite us. And that's why it's important to talk with a qualified Pro. Like Tony, if you're not already working with him, or if you are and you've got somebody who might benefit from the podcast and maybe having a conversation. Often financial advisors do complimentary reviews and consultations just to see if it's the right fit. So reach out to get on his calendar. Have a conversation if you're planning proz.com It's your planning proz.com. And don't forget to subscribe to the podcast, very simple. Just hit the heart or the Follow button depending on what app you're using. Plan with the tax man is the name of it on all the major platforms Apple, Google Spotify, type that into the search box or just find that at Tony's website. You're planning proz.com Tony, my friend thanks for hanging out and breaking some of these questions down for me. All right, we'll   Tony Mauro  14:38 see you next time.   Marc Killian  14:39 I always appreciate you I know we're getting into the end of October here. So have yourself a happy and safe Halloween. And we will see you next time here on plan with taxpayer.   14:53 Securities offered through a van tax investment services SM Member FINRA SIPC investment advisory serve Risk is offered through a VAT tax advisory services insurance services offered through an event tax affiliated Insurance Agency

Plan With The Tax Man
Dissecting Dave Ramsey's Tik Tok Advice

Plan With The Tax Man

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 5, 2023 15:38


Dave Ramsey is well known for his no-nonsense approach to personal finance, particularly in the areas of budgeting, debt management, and wealth-building. He has gained a significant following through various media platforms, including books, radio shows, podcasts, live events, and more recently, Tik Tok. Tune in as we peel back the layers of Dave's bite sized Tik Tok advice and share our thoughts beyond the clips. Important Links: Website: http://www.yourplanningpros.com Call: 844-707-7381 ----more---- Transcript:  Marc Killian  0:01   Dave Ramsey is well known for his no nonsense approach to personal finance, particularly in the areas of budgeting, debt management and wealth building. He's gained a significant following through various media platforms with books and radio shows, podcasts, live events, and now tick tock So, this week on the podcast, we're gonna peel back the layers of Dave's bite sized nuggets of Tiktok advice and share Tony's thoughts on those here on plan with the tax man. Announcer 2  0:27   Look up in the sky. It's a bird. It's a plane. No, it's the tax man. He may not be a superhero, but Tony Morrow has saved many retirement plans with his extreme knowledge of tax planning strategies. It's time for a plan with the tax man. Marc Killian  0:44   Welcome into another edition of the podcast where we discuss a little Dave Ramsey advice this week with Tony Morrow once again here with us. Obviously Tony from tax Doctor Inc. and always chatting with us here on the podcast about getting to and through retirement. He's got 27 plus years in the industry. He's a CPA, a CFP and an EA. So certainly a great resource to tune into and talk with and so Tony with all that good stuff said I got to ask you first how you doing? And second, do I am I gonna see you on Tik Tok pretty soon or what we're going to catch Tony Mauro  1:14   up and doing good is rolling into fall. So that's good. And you know, I'm not a tick tock guy. Marc Killian  1:19   No, no tick tock dance craze for Tony and coming up saying no, no, Tony Mauro  1:23   no, I've looked at it a little bit. And I know that that's not for me. Yeah, I Marc Killian  1:28   mean, either, man. That sounds like either get it? I don't get it. But you know, Dave's got he does do a lot tour his some of his demographic definitely can be younger. So it certainly makes sense. Right? It does. Definitely runs on it. And I don't know, it seems a little too addictive for me. So I Yeah. Why should people make a fool of themselves? And I can do that, too. Yeah. The internet has definitely no shortage of places to watch people do goofy stuff on video. That is for sure. If you ever need if you ever need a laugh that can you can certainly get a laugh that way. But then you can also kind of go down that rabbit hole and go, Oh, my Lord, what have we turned into? Oh, yeah. So yeah, it's a very, it's a very slippery slope. But for fun today, on the podcast, let's talk a little bit about some of his advice. It's really more about the advice versus the tick tock, if not really be into the app or anything like that has nothing really to do with it. Just kind of more of a humorous anecdote to kind of bridge this gap. But it's really more than interesting advice that he has, some of these are pretty good. So I want to get your take on this. He said, Don't invest in anything, if you can't tell me how it works, and don't invest in something just because you're really excited about it. If it gets your pulse rate up, there's a chance you're getting conned. Yeah. Tony Mauro  2:37   And I think you know, all of these, we'll go through today, just a moment on Dave Ramsey himself. He, I generally agree with his general financial advice. And I mean, there's some things I don't agree with, and you know, type of thing. But overall, if you, in my opinion, follow some of his basic things, it's really going to at least set you on the on the stage to go down the right path, he's not going to give you specific advice. That's where I think you need an advisor to help you implement the plan. But anyway, back to topic. Number one, I do agree with him on this, because I generally, you know, if you have something you see, or someone you know, is trying to provide you with, generally it's an investment, and you don't understand it and you don't feel comfortable with it. Generally, my advice would be SCS, maybe back up a minute, maybe try to get some some additional info right info on it. Because in an ethic even Warren Buffett says that, you know, he doesn't invest in anything that he doesn't understand. I am sure. Peter Lynch used to say that and so really their their theme there is you want something that you can at least understand that a lot of people say, Well, I don't even understand how the stock market works. So are you saying never invest in the market? No. But you know, you can get some education, right? Simple. Yeah. And make sure your adviser is explaining, you know, what companies that you're in and or funds that you're in, right? Because you certainly don't want to have somebody come in and say, you know, something like, Well, I can make you X percentage, and we're going to do it safely in futures. And you know, that that's really not the case there. Yeah, Marc Killian  4:19   yeah. And so we tend to follow them that fear of missing out thing, right, we tend to fall for that, that moment, where people are like, it sounds really good. And I'm gonna be cautious, but boy, I don't want to miss out on that either. Right. So it's easy to kind of slide down that slope. Tony Mauro  4:34   Yes. I had a tax client several years back, he was very much into that fear of missing out and he he loved to, you know, just gather information that was coming in, whether it's from the internet, and he he spent a lot of money but is the culmination was as he went to some seminar. And these people, basically, I think, talked him into, you know, doing this options scheme. Yeah. You know, and they they said, if you do this, this is follow us, you know, you're gonna make a lot of money. And he ended up losing a lot of money on the out and, and it was 50 some at the time and he just it's like it was no talking him out of it. But I think that's one of those things where, you know, that allure of maybe the fast buck and and he didn't understand it and didn't understand the risks involved, which again, if you're going to do something like that, you need to talk to your advisor first, I guess. At the end of the day, that's what it comes down to. Marc Killian  5:31   Yep, for sure. All right. Well, that was the first one and I definitely agree with a lot that just be careful. Don't you know, I mean, obviously, crypto would be the one you could easily think about on that first quote, people were like, Oh, I don't want to miss out on and I want to be the crypto millionaire. And it's like, okay, well, then the next day your crypto ramen noodle eaten fool to right. So you're up down your UPS down, right? So just be careful. And yeah, to your point about Dave, just remember, he is a financial coach. I mean, he's got a great empire there. But he's not he's no longer if he ever was, I'm not sure. But an advisor or consultant, he's not really licensed that right now. Certifications are licensed at this point. He does not he might have at one point he might have. Yeah, I'm not sure. But I don't think he did. Yeah, he doesn't need to be licensed because he's not selling anything as far as mutual funds or insurance or, you know, securities, things of that nature. So just kind of bear that in mind. And I think a difference between someone like Dave, or even Suze Orman who may have been that way at one point as well, they no longer practice, right, they're no longer seeing clients on an active basis. So the advice can be very broad natured in general, where, you know, we're going to talk general nature and broad stuff here on the podcast. But then when you come in and sit down with Tony, that's when you're diving into the specifics, because again, you're active, right? You're doing this every day, taking care of your clients. You're a CFP, right, and a CPA, and an enrolled agent. So yeah, there's a little bit of a difference there, and how the messages could be perceived. So Tony Mauro  6:49   we, you know, fortunately, or unfortunately, have to follow some rules. And we have, you know, we have a fiduciary responsibility to put the client first we can a lot of trouble, you know, if we don't do that, and so we have to make sure we're covering all the bases where I think, you know, just general advice, which is really what we're doing here, but yeah, you know, doesn't have to kind of, you know, adhere to that kind Marc Killian  7:11   of, well, we always view the podcast is really a way to share some nuggets of information, but also personality that is you right, so that folks that are listening to maybe a currently our clients, they're, they're getting to kind of catch up on some things that, well, they don't have to always see you, right, they can tune in to the podcast and kind of just stay abreast of what's happening. It's a it's a great way to just kind of keep in touch with your clients outside of the normal review, but also for other potential folks who might, you know, benefit from the message or need to seek the advice of a professional in their area. That's the kind of the other reason of the podcast as well. So it kind of serves both purposes. But again, we do kind of keep the general information somewhat general until you sit down and really go through that planning process. But anyway, enough of that, let's go back into the Tick Tock here, I'm gonna go to the third 1x I'm gonna jump around in the interest of time, he says if you're not careful, you make short term decisions, which tend to keep you in the short term, if you make long term decisions, they can probably be well, they're almost always are painful now, but awesome later. So it's the concept, Tony of that delayed gratification. We're not good at that. Right? So for me, the first thing I think about here is clearly the traditional 401k we kick it down the road, so we don't have to deal with it. Right. But if you'd maybe look at maybe doing conversions or paying the taxes now. Yeah, it's painful, right? That's better because nobody wants to pay taxes. But it could be awesome later. Tony Mauro  8:32   Yeah, this one it's worded a little differently, but it's pretty much right out of his book, The Total Money Makeover, which and I still tell my son this is last words aren't you know, live like no other. So eventually, you can live like no other, which is this in a different way, basically saying, you know, put off some of the short term gratification, right for long term happiness. Marc Killian  8:53   Right, right. Tony Mauro  8:54   We as we as well, I can't speak for the whole world. But I think as as Americans for sure. Don't like, we want stuff to right gratification. And big picture. What he's saying is maybe you should think about your long term plan before you go out and blow $100,000 on a car, for example. Yeah, you know, that short term gratification. It's all cool and everything. But is that a wise move? But at same time, he talks a lot about, you know, don't don't plan so much for the future, that your whole life is miserable. It's moderation. We don't know you're gonna die. And yeah, and we don't want that either. So there's a happy medium in there. Exactly. He talks a lot about what you think Marc Killian  9:31   about our politicians. Great Ones. Yeah, I think about our politicians. We were just talking about that a little bit. Who is in our leaders? I think they're really guilty of this. They don't really look long term, right? They make so many short term decisions. They want to be knee jerk reactions, and then later on, they go well, we'll just deal with and figure it out later. Much like the situation right we were talking about. Yeah. So you know, there's there's got to be that happy medium. But I think in this context, like I said, I certainly took it as is the one for right now. What's going on is maybe it's a tax consequence. Maybe it's a tax situation, to take a look at for yourself and thinking, Okay, do I bite the tax bullet now and reap those rewards a little later on? Or do I keep deferring and kind of waiting, you know, to deal with that animal 30 years from now, you know, so, right. Lots of ways to go about Tony Mauro  10:17   it. I was just gonna say I think too with with us, we tend to try to get people to start at least thinking about putting some money away for retirement. Start small. It's a little pain. Let's Let's bite off a little bit bits of pain before you know and and get you used to it. Yeah, yeah. And then we can always increase. But yes, there's a little bit of sacrifice there. Yes. Marc Killian  10:37   Yes, sir. Indeed. All right. Well, let's do one more. And we'll wrap it up this week here. I love this one people that retire wealthy, it wasn't an accident. They didn't get to wealth, get to retirement and go, gee, hell that happened. Right? So unless you hit the lottery, or an inheritance from your Uncle Milton who left you $30 million, you had no idea about more than likely becoming wealthy in retirement did not just you didn't fall trip and fall into it. Right? Tony Mauro  11:03   That's right, I actually have a picture. In my home office, I have a lot of, I don't know, you know, just kind of pictures that depict, you know, good sayings. And one is got this is worn out guys at the top of this mountain, they it says the guy at the top of mountain just didn't fall there, you know, and he worked hard. And I think well, yeah, same thing. With you know, getting to your goals into retirement is it's a process, it's work at some sacrifice. And, you know, if, if you're one of those few that get lucky, great. But for most of us, that's not going to work. And so, you know, we've talked about it. A lot of times, you know, you have to have a plan. It's not fun at times, there's some sacrifice, but in the end, you're going to be very happy that you did it. I think Dave Ramsey talks a lot about that is trying to try to stay the course. Marc Killian  11:54   Yeah, yeah. And I think you know, that, to me, this also speaks to tried and true ways of going about it, Tony, right. So not trying to necessarily swing for the fences, not trying to jump into crypto, you know, back to that investments that you don't understand kind of thing, right? You know, making sure that it's fine to have some of that, but there's nothing also wrong with the things that the, you know, academics has proven to work for the last, you know, 100 years, there's some tried and true things that work, right. Tony Mauro  12:20   There is a fact, you know, going back to that I was gonna say, we were talking about the first topic, I actually had an accounting client today, email me, and he's a chiropractor. And he said, I've got people that want to pay me in Bitcoin. I don't know anything about it. Should I do it? And I told him, absolutely not. I said, you know, that's you don't know anything about it, it's hard to get your money out. It's not you know, I'm not saying bitcoin is bad, right. But you certainly don't want to take that as forms of payment, and when you need it for cash and your bills, I mean, so it's, you know, kind of what we talked about, you know, have a fear of missing out. I mean, it kind of wraps it all up, and he doesn't know anything about this. And Marc Killian  12:59   I mean, it's, I don't even know how to be awfully small fractions, I think, I mean, I go to a chiropractor, and it's not that much of a bill. I'm thinking man and one bitcoin is still what, six or 700 bucks or something like that, you know, so I don't know. Yeah, that would be I don't know, I mean, maybe like he could be sitting on a potential goldmine. Just gotta figure out how to actually work it. But But to your point, if you don't understand it, don't do it. Tony Mauro  13:21   You know, at least at least get yourself educated. So yeah, I think that it's all relative. And, you know, going back to our main, our main point here is a lot of what Ramsey talks about in his head talks about does make good financial sense. You know, you just got to take it to that next level, work with your advisor and implement, you know, what works for you. Marc Killian  13:40   Yeah, you know, it makes me think about that pizza story. Do you know that? You know, the Bitcoin pizza story from about, I don't know, 20 years ago, 13 years ago, something like that? No. So a guy named Laszlo I think something another paid another guy 10,000 bitcoins in 2010 for two Papa John pizzas to have delivered to his house, right? Because they didn't know what they had or what it was. So just think about that for a second 10,000 Bitcoin right? For two pizzas, you know what's its what's its price today at the time we're talking 25,980 Only that's all. So he paid 50 grand in today's dollars for two pizzas. fetus. Yeah, that's incredible. So you never because you don't know what's he didn't know what they had. Right? They didn't know what it didn't know what the deal was until 2010. So you just never know that I think that kind of wraps it up and illustrates our point of make sure you understand what it is that you're doing, what it why that you have, what you have, what it's doing for you what it's doing inside your retirement plan inside your portfolio, and get educated get some help plan with a tax man. That's why Tony is here. If you need some help reach out to him. You're planning proz.com That is your planning proz.com to speak with Tony Morrow at tax Doctor Inc. You can subscribe to the podcast on Apple, Google Spotify, which every platform you like using just type it into the search box, Oregon, stop by the website for all the information and details that you're planning. proz.com Tony, thanks for hanging out my friend. All right, we'll see you next time. Yes sir. And I look forward to seeing your next dance craze on Tik Tok. Yeah. We'll catch you later here on playing the tax man. Speaker 4  15:25   Securities offered through a van tax investment services SM Member FINRA SIPC investment advisory services offered through advanced tax advisory services insurance services offered through an event tax affiliated Insurance Agency Transcribed by https://otter.ai Disclaimer: Securities offered through Avantax Investment ServicesSM. Member FINRA, S.I.P.C. 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Market Mondays
Stock Analysis: Domino's, Philips, 3M, Meta, Google, Spotify, and Crocs Stocks Explained

Market Mondays

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 4, 2023 16:12


Join us as we simplify and breakdown the complexities of stocks. In this episode, we delve into the performance and potential of Domino's Pizza, Philips, 3M, Meta, Google, Spotify, and Crocs. Whether you're a seasoned investor or just getting started, this analysis will give you a clearer understanding of these companies' stocks. Don't forget to like, share, and subscribe for more insightful stock market content. #StockAnalysis #InvestingMadeSimple #FinancialLiteracySupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/marketmondays/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

MacPaw.Tech
Цукерберг і Vision Pro. Google кличе в офіс. Spotify покращили рекомендації? It's raining cats&dogs

MacPaw.Tech

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 4, 2023 52:47


Технологічний подкаст з колегами про роботу й новини Валерія Козаченко — https://instagram.com/lerok_._ Іван Тараненко — https://instagram.com/borodavanya Сергій Кривоблоцький —  https://twitter.com/Krivoblotsky 00:00 Інтро 00:25 Вітаємось! 1:03 Айтівців назад до будівель? 25:32 Новий Spotify smart shuffle  36:56 Vision Pro девайс не для всіх TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@macpawtech Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/macpawtechtalks Telegram: https://t.me/mtechtalks

NY CERTIFIED w/ MRCAKEAVE
FOURTH OF JULY, BUSTA RYMES, 14 YR SET FREE

NY CERTIFIED w/ MRCAKEAVE

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 30, 2023 23:20


What's Popping NY! I'm your host MR CAKE AVE! We talk about breaking news, trending stories and hot topics! We are available on Apple podcast, Google & Spotify to name a few! There's so much to talk about this weekend so let's not waste any time. If you'd like to show make sure you tell your friends and share with everybody you know. We're always looking for contributors so hit me up @MRCAKEAVE ON Twitter new episode every week! Happy Fourth of July weekend to everyone. Have a holiday!

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Trump found liable, Santos Arraigned, Protest in Subway

NY CERTIFIED w/ MRCAKEAVE

Play Episode Listen Later May 11, 2023 25:15


What's Popping NY! It's MR CAKE AVE. Your host bringing you this weeks Breaking News, Hot topics & Trending stories! Former president Trump ordered to pay 5 million. & Rep. George Santos pleads not guilty at his arraignment. Protest in subway station lands 10 people arrested. Happy Mother's Day weekend to all the moms. Knicks stay in the series. 3-2 with game 6 tomorrow. Elon musk says there will be a new CEO at Twitter and so much more! Make sure to like subscribe & share! We are on Apple , Google & Spotify! @MRCAKEAVE on Twitter. For Comments , topics & questions

Startups are hard
41: Хто планує задачі на спринт?

Startups are hard

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 8, 2023 26:23


Сьогодні в епізоді – як ми відмовилися від щотижневого планування і що прийшло замість нього.00:25 Новини Джина02:24 Апдейт щодо платної аналітики08:15 Апдейт по sourcing marketplace08:48 Планування на ДжиніПідписуйтесь на Startups are hard на Apple Podcasts, Google або Spotify. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit newsletter.maxua.com

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SEASON 6, TRUMP ARRAIGNED, SUMMERJAM, ROOKIE COP SHOT

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Play Episode Listen Later Apr 6, 2023 27:34


What's Popping NY! It's ya host MR CAKE AVE with a brand new episode of NY CERTIFIED. I'm a Podcaster native to this huge city we call home!This weeks Breaking News, Trending stories & Hot Topics! This podcast is for everyone! It doesn't matter if you're new or a native to the city! We're always looking for contributors so send your comments, topics, questions to @MRCAKEAVE on Twitter! This week President Trump has his arraignment. Summer jam will now be in Queens June 4! Rookie cop was shot in Queens. This weekend we celebrate Easter and Good Friday. so many more stories and topics. Make sure you subscribe! Like & share! Thank you to all the new subscribers. This is a new season. We bringing new episodes! And new topics every week. Available on APPLE PODCAST, GOOGLE & SPOTIFY now #ADFREE .

Startups are hard
#40: Recruiting is broken

Startups are hard

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 19, 2023 23:33


Обговорюємо новини Джина, головну проблему рекрутинга та бізнес-ідею Льоші.00:00 Вступ і вітання00:16 Офсайт Льоші01:29 Новий лендінг без України03:12 Попрощалися з Farouk04:48 Чому Макс не може знайти бекендера06:07 Головна проблема рекрутинга11:22 Льоша пітчить Максу бізнес-ідею23:02 ПрощаємосяПідписуйтесь на Startups are hard на Apple Podcasts, Google або Spotify. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit newsletter.maxua.com

#THATSWHATUP Show! ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL w#Trista4SenateGov&Prez! #comedy #music #politics

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#acapella @Beatles #BackintheUSSR #cover included !! F*** him! In prison LOL Christ our violence establishes that Trump has been getting preferential treatment by the judicial system so far! However, he is slammed again to his knees today with this awesome news of more criminal probes! LOL #arresttrumpnow #arresttrump

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Mysterious death of Journalist Dorothy kilgalleñ & the JFK assassination!

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Play Episode Listen Later Jan 31, 2023 59:59


F*** him! In prison LOL Christ our violence establishes that Trump has been getting preferential treatment by the judicial system so far! However, he is slammed again to his knees today with this awesome news of more criminal probes! LOL #arresttrumpnow #arresttrump

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THE ANCIENT ONES- MIND-BLOWING NEW DOCU! & MARY TRUMP BEATS HER UNCLE'S A$$ IN COURT! LOL

#THATSWHATUP Show! ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL w#Trista4SenateGov&Prez! #comedy #music #politics

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 31, 2023 119:59


F*** him! In prison LOL Christ our violence establishes that Trump has been getting preferential treatment by the judicial system so far! However, he is slammed again to his knees today with this awesome news of more criminal probes! LOL #arresttrumpnow #arresttrump

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Trump gets sucker-punched by new Italian crime probe, AND

#THATSWHATUP Show! ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL w#Trista4SenateGov&Prez! #comedy #music #politics

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 31, 2023 120:00


F*** him! In prison LOL Christ our violence establishes that Trump has been getting preferential treatment by the judicial system so far! However, he is slammed again to his knees today with this awesome news of more criminal probes! LOL #arresttrumpnow #arresttrump

#THATSWHATUP Show! ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL w#Trista4SenateGov&Prez! #comedy #music #politics
Listening party! This is my first album, SATISFACTION GUARANTEED #TristaGenova

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Play Episode Listen Later Jan 30, 2023 59:59


If you like it share! Get me a deal with a record producer or record label offers welcome! You can send me message on Instagram #Tristaartista or is it #artistatrista I forget I'm releasing my first solo album, SATISFACTION GUARANTEED tonight on my Facebook page #MusicbyTHEETrista & Instagram - you can consider this a #virtual #listeningparty of sorts; I released this album on YouTube five years ago on New Year's Eve. I'd like to invite @EddieVedder @JohnMellencamp @JohnnyDepp Miley Cyrus @MattDamon LisamariepresleyRIP- & thank you, all the coolest people in #hollywood! for following me and my work! Perhaps you would dig my solo album

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TheMummichogBlog - Malta In Italiano

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 12, 2022 5:19


"英格兰和更多摩洛哥奇迹的伤心 - 每天足球 足球周刊系列 聆听的更多方式 苹果播客 Google播客 Spotify RSS订阅 下载 由Max Rushden与Barry Glendenning,Philippe Auclair,Lars Sivertsen和Barney Ronay合作。由乔尔·格罗夫(Joel Grove)和我们的前任制作" "-Start AD- #TheMummichogBlogoFmalta Amazon Top和Flash Deals(会员链接 - 如果您通过以下链接购买,您将支持我们的翻译)-https://amzn.to/3feogyg 仅在一次搜索中比较所有顶级旅行网站,以在酒店库存的最佳酒店交易中找到世界上最佳酒店价格比较网站。 (会员链接 - 如果您通过以下链接购买,您将支持我们的翻译)-https://www.hotelscombined.com/?a_aid=20558 “因此,无论您希望别人对您做什么,也对他们做,因为这是法律和先知。”“ #Jesus #Catholic。 “从受孕的时刻,必须绝对尊重和保护人类的生活。从他生存的第一刻起,必须将一个人承认为拥有一个人的权利 - 其中每种无辜者都是无辜的权利。”天主教教堂的教理2270。 堕胎杀死了两次。它杀死了婴儿的身体,并杀死了母亲的科学。堕胎是深刻的反妇女。它的受害者中有三个季节是女性:一半的婴儿和所有母亲。 流畅的马耳他无线电是马耳他的第一号数字广播电台,演奏您的轻松最爱 - Smooth提供了“无混乱”的混音,吸引了35-59个核心观众,提供柔和的成人现代经典。我们操作一个流行曲目的播放列表,并定期更新。 https://smooth.com.mt/listen/ 关注电报:https://t.me/themummichogblogdotcom Tumblr:https://www.tumblr.com/themummichogblogofmalta blogspot:https://themummichogblogofmalta.blogspot.com/ 论坛:https://groups.google.com/g/themummichogblog Facebook:https://www.facebook.com/groups/chinesecommunitymalta 结束广告---" "评估的制片人是丹妮尔·史蒂芬斯(Danielle Stephens)。 SAT 2022年12月10日23.35 GMTLAST在Sun上修改了2022年12月11日00.22 GMT Max Rushden与Barry Glendenning,Philippe Auclair和Lars Sivertsen一起加入,英格兰从卡塔尔鞠躬2022 如何收听播客:您需要知道的一切 00:00:00 00:54:12 评分,审查,在Apple播客,SoundCloud,AudioBoom,MixCloud,Acast和Stitcher上分享,并在Facebook,Twitter和电子邮件上加入对话。 今天:英格兰的表现不错,但还不够好,因为他们输给了法国。哈里·凯恩(Harry Kane)有痛苦的人,他错过了第二次罚款,但是是否有充分的理由对未来充满希望 - 加雷斯·索斯盖特(Gareth Southgate)应该成为2024年带领英格兰的人吗? 法国将在另一项艰苦的努力中看到阿特拉斯狮子成为有史以来第一个通过击败葡萄牙进入世界杯决赛的非洲第一方面,将在半决赛中与摩洛哥见面。 另外:小组向美国记者格兰特·瓦尔(Grant Wahl)致敬,他在卡塔尔(Katar)报道世界杯时不幸去世。 https://www.theguardian.com/football/audio/2022/dec/10/heartbreak-for-for-gor-england-and-more-moroccan-miracles-football------------ "

Startups are hard
33: Вчуся делегувати задачі

Startups are hard

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 18, 2022 21:09


Делегування це складно, але без цього дуже важко реагувати на рост бізнесу чи продукту – тебе не вистачає, ти втрачаєш увагу, важливі задачі перестають робитися (або не починаються).Порада “спочатку розібратися самому, делегувати потім” працює далеко не завжди. Кращий шлях – “look at what greatness is to calibrate”.Show notes:* Scaling by “delegation” isn't good enoughПідписуйтесь на Startups are hard на Apple Podcasts, Google або Spotify. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit newsletter.maxua.com

Startups are hard
32: From Zero to 5K in a Month

Startups are hard

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 4, 2022 18:47


Продовжуємо пошук УТП Джина для international.Підписуйтесь на Startups are hard на Apple Podcasts, Google або Spotify. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit newsletter.maxua.com

Startups are hard
31: Tech lead vs PM

Startups are hard

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 28, 2022 20:25


Сьогодні на подкасті:* Жовтнева аналітика* Нові обмеження по відгукам* Хто має відповідати за розробку, ПМ чи техлід?Підписуйтесь на Startups are hard на Apple Podcasts, Google або Spotify. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit newsletter.maxua.com

Startups are hard
29: No code

Startups are hard

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 14, 2022 24:57


Чи потрібен no code, якщо у вас є програмісти?Також у подкасті:* Готуємо окремий епізод про фронтенд * Тормознули пошук бекенда* Плашка збільшує шанси на найм Підписуйтесь на Startups are hard на Apple Podcasts, Google або Spotify. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit newsletter.maxua.com

Startups are hard
27: Моя секретна зброя

Startups are hard

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 29, 2022 14:00


В цьому епізоді:- Апдейт по техборгу- Підписали новий безліміт- Вебінари для international- Відповідь на питання про відповідальністьПідписуйтесь на Startups are hard на Apple Podcasts, Google або Spotify. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit newsletter.maxua.com

Startups are hard
#23: Технічний борг треба повертати

Startups are hard

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 25, 2022 20:58


Що робити, коли технічний борг не дає швидко рухатися в продукті?Show notes:Вакансія аналітика в команду ДжинаРинок праці: стало гірше (Твіттер-тред)Технічний борг, епізод №16Підписуйтесь на Startups are hard на Apple Podcasts, Google або Spotify. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit newsletter.maxua.com

Startups are hard
22: Naming matters

Startups are hard

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 18, 2022 23:44


Звідки взялася назва Djinni і яке відношення до цього має AngelList.Новини:- Asdfasdfasdf розсилка і як це вплинуло на open rate- GDPR та боржники- Новий лендінг для international- Найдорожчий найм (бонус) в історії ДжинаShow notes:- My interview with Naval RavikantПідписуйтесь на Startups are hard на Apple Podcasts, Google та Spotify. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit newsletter.maxua.com

Startups are hard
#21: Як Джин став безкоштовним

Startups are hard

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 11, 2022 25:16


Шість (!) з топ-10 найдорожчих наймів липня були безкоштовні для Джина, тобто мо заробили на них $0 бонус. Як це трапилося? Це найбільша наша помилка чи uncanny good strategy? Розбираємось.Підписуйтесь на Startups are hard на Apple Podcasts, Google та Spotify. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit newsletter.maxua.com

On the Brink with Andi Simon
323: Maura Carlin and Christie Derrico—Isn't It Time For Us To Solve The "Balance Dilemma" For Working Women?

On the Brink with Andi Simon

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 1, 2022 49:24


Hear how to be bolder and braver at balancing your life Suppose you are a working woman with children. I bet you have experienced the "Balance Dilemma." How can you find the right balance between home life, family, a business or professional career, and even your own self-care? You, your partner or spouse, your friends and your family will enjoy this podcast. My guests, Maura Carlin and Christie Derrico, have an awesome podcast called The Balance Dilemma. Yes, the title is exactly what we want to share with our audience today. Need some help balancing all the different parts of your life? Listen in! Watch and listen to our conversation here How to help women and men have families, careers, and a life to live A little background: Maura and Christie are both attorneys. Maura describes herself as: “Litigation attorney turned journalist, writer, podcaster, still asking questions.” Christie is an entrepreneur, lawyer, podcaster and author who combines her multi-disciplinary talents with her passion for giving back. Making work life and home life successfully coexist together shouldn't be so hard, but as most of us know, it is. Even after decades of women trying to balance their lives and their careers, very little has changed. Sadly, we're still trying to figure it out. Questions the three of us delved into which affect all of us When we consider the declining birth rate, the later ages at which women are getting married and the limitations of childcare, as well as its cost, we as a society must step back and rethink, What we are doing? What do we value? How do we provide a more balanced life, and why is it even more essential to do it now? Listen in and enjoy. And please share with us your ideas at info@simonassociates.net.  To contact Maura and Christie You can connect with Maura on LinkedIn or email her at mauracarlin@gmail.com. You can find Christie on LinkedIn. Want a deeper dive into how you can achieve work-life balance? Start with these:  Podcast: "Work PAUSE Thrive" with Lisen Stromberg Podcast: Melissa Greenwell—Gender-Balanced Leadership Doesn't Just Happen Blog: Rising To The Occasion, Women Are Proving To Be The Heroines In This Crisis Additional resources for you My two award-winning books: Rethink: Smashing The Myths of Women in Businessand On the Brink: A Fresh Lens to Take Your Business to New Heights Our website: Simon Associates Management Consultants   Read the transcript of our podcast here Andi Simon: Welcome to On the Brink With Andi Simon. Hi, I'm Andi Simon. I'm your host and your guide. And as you know, my job is to get you off the brink. We've moved into our 300+ podcast and it truly is an honor to celebrate with you. Every time we have a new one, we get lots of people across the globe coming to us asking for more. How do I get you off the brink? How do I help you soar? Well, I do that by letting you listen to people who are doing just that. They help you see, feel and think in new ways so you can add some tools into your portfolio. The world is going through a great transformation. So today, I bring you two amazing women. I have Maura Carlin and Christie Dericco. I met them through a mutual friend who then introduced me and I was absolutely honored to be on their podcast, The Balance Dilemma. This was a terrific in-person WVOX recording of a podcast. And today we're going to talk a little bit about podcasting. Actually a lot about podcasting, because I do them with great pleasure. I haven't monetized it. I don't want to, I don't want have advertisers. I just want great people to help you see, feel and think in new ways. So today, let me tell you a little bit about these two wonderful women. And then they'll tell you about their own journey. But listen carefully to their own experiences. There's something there for you, each of you, to begin to understand how in our life's journey, we continue to soar only if we get off the brink. So here we go. I have Maura Carlin here, who spent over 15 years as a litigator at law firms. Now remember, I could have been an attorney or an anthropologist. But it was my husband who said to me, "Be an anthropologist and I'll be here for you," and he doesn't mind my telling you that because it was 55 years ago and I am still an anthropologist. But she started as a litigator while raising her family and left law and focused on journalism, working as a producer and host on LMC media's news programming. So this is an interesting blend here. Her natural talent and live on-air interviews was on display weekly during roundtable discussions with elected officials, newsmakers and more. She received a BA from Cornell and a JD with honors from George Washington. But she is really on another part of her own journey. Now Christie Derrico grew up in a world encouraged by female entrepreneurs and she and I love to share stories about those female entrepreneurs. I often thought I should write a book called What I Learned On My Grandmother's Knee because it was my grandmother who taught me all about how to count money at the end of the day. It was so interesting, beginning with Christie's grandmother and continuing to her mother, a tech entrepreneur. She established her law practice in 1998 and tailored her firm to meet her community and family needs. She lives in Westchester. Maura has three sons, and Christie has four children. They are truly the epitome of "the balance dilemma." Thank you for joining me today. I'll start with Christie. What's your journey? And then I'll get to Maura and then we'll go deep into what has podcasting taught us and what we're trying to do with it. Christie, how about yourself? Christie Derrico: Well, Andi, like many people, I was inspired by reading To Kill a Mockingbird. I knew that I wanted to be a lawyer from freshman year of high school when that is usually assigned. And I went right from college to law school, and I was a college athlete. And then I went to compete in law school. As you know, more than I can attest, law school is not an easy feat. Each level you go up in your education, it's harder and harder. But I have loved being an attorney. And I've handled litigation, handling many cases, criminal and civil. And I also established a local practice where I got to connect with people in the community. And that's one of my favorite things. I'm not very good at tracking my pro bono hours because there are just so many of them. If someone walks in with a problem, I'm there to help even if sometimes they can't pay what would be the customary rate. So I met Maura on a show a few years ago. And we just struck up a friendship and started a conversation that became The Balance Dilemma and it had a launch in this pandemic where many people had an opportunity to pivot and try new things. And that's our story. Andi Simon: What I love about it, you must know Adam Grant's book, Give and Take. Givers just really are essential to the beauty and joy of our society. And as you said about your pro bono, givers, you know, it's sort of like, How can I help? As opposed to, How can you pay me? And that is a real mark of a woman I want to have on my podcast. Maura, what about you? Maura Carlin: You know, it's funny, I hadn't even realized how similar Christie and I were in those beginning years because I too wanted to be a lawyer after reading To Kill a Mockingbird in eighth or ninth grade. And I did not come from a family of lawyers or business people, for that matter. My father was an artist. And my mother was a teacher, and both grew up poor. And I didn't want to do what they did. And I wanted to be a lawyer. So I went to college. I too, was a college athlete for a couple of years, and went straight to law school also. And during law school, I really didn't know much about the practice of law as it turned out, and ended up going to a big firm in New York City, and started my law career that way. And then along the way, like two intense career couples with children, couldn't really make it work very well. And there were things going on at home. And I went home thinking it was temporary. And we then actually had a third kid, and I got involved in local journalism, which is something I had always been interested in. I did radio in college, and I really pursued that while I was home. I needed flexibility, I needed to be around. So there we have it. And Christie and I met on the set of this new show, which was a combination of news and a discussion roundtable. And we hit it off right away talking about the struggle. Andi Simon: The struggle has accelerated during the pandemic. It was there before, people talked about work-life balance, and I used to say, Why is work not life? I couldn't quite figure out what this balance was that we were trying to get. But it was always about women in that work-life balance. And it is an interesting time for us to take a look at how women have creatively solved an unexpected challenge. And now we're trying to figure out how the next challenge is going to put more strain or opportunities for creative ideas to come forth, as people are being asked to come back to the workplace. And I'm hearing this constant recurring theme: Well, you knew before the pandemic, to work at home was a gift you gave me. It was part of my benefits. During the pandemic, you gave me a day to figure out how to do it. And now you want me to come back to the office. And some folks are going back in the office and sitting on zoom in the office because their colleagues are still removed. We haven't figured this out. So go ahead. Christie Derrico: So Maura and I, the three of us, have used the same word: flexibility. So adding to my bio, I had a formula for flexibility from having a mother and a grandmother who were working mothers. And I learned things, and things have been tweaked through the generations. I have my mother's sisters who still run the family business and they have children. And so I had a benefit of things that many women don't: I have rules. I try to keep things hyperlocal like Maura. I'm very involved in the community. So if something falls apart, you're a known entity and somebody can swoop in and drive your kid home or something like that. But what really brought Maura and I together was an article that was at that time, 30 years old: Confessions of a Superwoman. Maura why don't you tell Andi about how this spawned our project? Maura Carlin: This is actually a funny story. Your parents dump everything in your attic when you have a house to get you out of theirs. So at that time I was finally hitting the boxes and I found this article from December 1980. I don't know where or how I got it, but I clearly didn't read it. And this woman was trying to do it. And this was what really hit me. She was trying to have this high flying career and she was a prominent scientist. And she had a child and she couldn't make it work. And what really struck me and what Christie and I talked about 30 years later, was very little had changed, and even more so, we were speaking about it in the same terms and that was just unbelievable and kind of horrifying at the same time. Christie Derrico: And I will just add to that, that in the pandemic, even leading up to it, progress has been with fits and starts. And we've seen in our community, I think there are less day cares here than when I moved here in the late 90s. Why is that? And how can we move forward unless we address the elephant in the room—childcare—and other issues that help women stay in the workforce. And our project, The Balance Dilemma, has been a super interesting social science, so to speak, analysis of all the machinations of this work-life balance. What has been most interesting to me is that our guests have been entrepreneurs, re-inventors, creators, executives, parents, partners. We have had fine artists, other types of artists, writers, all people telling the story, not just women. There are men too of how they have made a life for their families and themselves and keeping their identity and making livings and things like that. It's been absolutely fascinating. Andi Simon: I'm curious, maybe you can provide perspective on this. How do we make changes, because to your point, there's less childcare, there are fewer childcare workers. I didn't have childcare, I had to hire a nanny. I remember my husband and I navigating the complex waters of who was going to work on which days, and I worked Wednesdays and Saturdays at the university, so he could take care of the kids on Saturdays. There was always navigating. But on the other hand, we never really thought back and said, What did we do here? This was sort of just how we got it done. But how do we make the changes that are going to be necessary to create something we're calling a work-life balance or something? I'm not quite sure that vision of what we're going toward, and I'm not sure how to help us get there. Maura Carlin: I think we need to figure out the childcare piece of it, as Christie was saying. Someone has to be there at some time, whether it's a parent, or another family member, or someone you hire. I don't see another solution. But it's something that keeps getting ignored. And one of the things on the balance limb is, interestingly, we don't talk politics, but this is the one policy area where we kind of have to go into it and see how different people have handled it. And it always seems, and this is where my husband and I actually had a problem because it comes back to this: someone seems to have some flexibility. You know, even our last guest, who was the lead parent, she from the very beginning was able to work from home long before work from home was a thing. And that allowed her to be around for the children. She also hired someone that you could delegate to, but she had the flexibility. And I don't know how you do it otherwise. Why are children the afterthought instead of the thought in our society? Christie, do you have perspective? Christie Derrico: Absolutely, I mean, we've had some common links with Frank Schaeffer. I found his book, Fall in Love, Have Children, Stay Put, Save the Planet, Be Happy. It's a big, big, long title. But I found some of the things, I'm not saying Frank and I agreed on everything, but it was refreshing that he was discussing it and putting it out there. And we were discussing just this weekend with my mother when she was finishing her college degree and she was at community college, there was a childcare facility. And I remember being there. That didn't mean I was there 7-to-7, but in the time that she had to take some classes, I could go there. I wonder how many colleges have childcare facilities these days? I don't think many. And it has made it an afterthought. But childcare is just one component of it. The thing that Maura and I have touched upon is planning. Young people, young women, young men, don't often think about, How do I want my life to look 20 years from now? They kind of spontaneously go into things that they like without really thinking, Oh, wait, is this going to be the career that gives me the best work-life balance? And Maura and I were not fond of the book...what was the name of it, Maura? It had a Wall Street exec in London and it was so depressing that she would come home at night and couldn't stand to see her husband. She would buy store-bought pies and distress them to bring them into school for the school play. Like it was such a Debbie Downer of a working woman. I couldn't stand to read the book, not that it wasn't well written or entertaining, it just hit a nerve with me. So how can we make this, as you say, something that there is some forethought, or there is some flexibility. I think the change in the marketplace in the economy is allowing people in general to change careers easier. You're not staying in one place. So we have to be open to, Maybe I'm going to shift to this, maybe I won't earn as much money, but I'm in it. And maybe I need to be there for four years, and then it could shift again. So hopefully these changes that were coming out of this pandemic can facilitate that flexibility that did not used to exist. I also think that the flexibility is coming from employers. If you ask for it, because of the pandemic, allowing people to work from home or understanding that people do have other people to watch over. And it's not just children, it's their elderly, elderly families as well, which is also huge. Andi Simon: Let's think big. Frank Schaeffer was on the podcast and I loved his ideas. And I said, So why is it so hard for employers to realize that if they opened up a child-friendly culture, they could attract people who would not only come and want to come and stay, but see them aligned with their own values? Is that such a foreign idea? As we're talking about it, and he and I talked about it, I said, Frank, this isn't so hard, just open up the gap. My daughter worked for The Gap. The Gap had a daycare where you can bring them in at three months. And they did it. So why is this such a mystery? And why do they fight it? Well, you don't have to go into politics and figure out why society and government doesn't. But how many businesses could do it tomorrow? Christie Derrico: Well, I think we have to look at successful examples. So we're lawyers, and Maura and I love to research. So I am a fact-, evidence-based person. So we can have a theory and it sounds great, but if I can't find the data to support that, even if it's a good formula, I'm not going to be behind it. And I won't bore you, Maura knows, I've gone down the rabbit hole of some of these issues. And we have a running Google document with our research that I find absolutely fascinating on the issues of family and work. But we have to do things here that have been proven to be successful. The evidence just shows that if you have flexibility, women do stay in the jobs longer. But we have to be in agreement that there's some professions that you just can't bring your kid to work. So maybe this is why I think it needs to be a broader societal solution. And another thing that we found is, it's a lot easier to achieve flexibility when you're at the top of your game. If you're having to do this at the beginning of your career, before you've had the chance to do internships and put in long hours and prove yourself, it is a lot harder. So these are the discussions that we have to have and stop kicking the can down the road. Andi Simon: Well, is that why the birth rate in this country is declining and declining at a very high rate and marriage rate is declining. And people aren't getting married till they're older. They are having kids at high risk levels and 40% of the kids are born to single parents and not to the guys. And so now you have an interesting demographic. Now, it's telling us something to your point, How can we not plan ahead? Well, we are planning ahead, sort of, which is, I'm not going to get married, we live together, I've done my savings. I think that the generation that's coming is so different from the Boomers and even different from Gen X and Gen Y somewhat. But they see this and they're beginning to talk about the changes they can bring. And I'm hoping that they can visualize something that addresses the balance dilemma. Christie Derrico: We have discussed this quite a bit. Our oldest children are the same age and they're in a similar line of work. But we can't answer whether these are for social scientists to study but I was curious. I did read the book. It's a dialogue with the Boomer and the Millennial. And it did open my eyes to see some of the reasons why some of the things you are talking about exist. We can't sit there and say, Well, back in my day we did it this way. There's a reason they feel insecurity. They went through some national crises, the 2008 meltdown, 911. These are part of the reasons that they feel they need huge security before they go on to that next step, aside from the socio expectations and living together and things like that. So I think that we have to look at them, address them, and try to give support, otherwise this is going to keep trending and we're not alone. All developed countries have low birth rates, but some have been more successful than others. And I think when we say fact- or evidence-based, that's what we need to look at: How do they do it in the countries where it's worked? And how can we have takeaways from those examples? Maura Carlin: Well, I actually don't 100% agree with Christie in terms of the age groups just because looking at them, I don't think that our older children fall into that. And it may be because I think they're considered young millennials, as opposed to the older millennials. So at least for my son, I don't think he was affected by those things the way some of the older ones were. I also think what they've seen is, how hard it is. I don't think it's just because of external things like crashes and, you know, real big crises, like 911. I think that they've seen their parents trying to figure out how to do this. And my eldest was keenly aware of the decision that I made, that someone needed to be there. And there, they haven't seen a solution. Andi Simon: Let me shift the focus aspect. Men. I'm married to a fantastic guy who went into his own business. When I was an executive at a bank, and I'm traveling up to Buffalo, and he's taking care of the kids, not that he's not employed, working and building his own business. But without Mr. Mom, it would have been more challenging. And we always had nannies, but they weren't the same. My kids' relationship to Mr. Mom is fantastic. And I think that's because he did become like a mom. And he was the guy who made sure they had a driver to pick them up and take them. And he was the one who picked them up and took them out for dinner. And we made it work. And they are both professional women doing the same. How are the men handling the roles they play? Are they shifting? Are they reinventing what masculine means? Are they good at staying at home? Moms: I had some executive coaching clients where the guys were sitting on the couch, and the kids were crying, and they were on the phone with me, on Zoom. And they said, How do I deal with this certain child who's a husband and two children who are children? Christie Derrico: We've had two guests, and we've had a number of men, but we've had two guests, for sure, men who did that. One in particular. And he really was. He liked to be called Mr. Dad, as he told us. His wife is a very prominent orthopedic surgeon, and he took over the homefront. And that was in fact the title of our episode. It was a choice he made, he was a lawyer also. And he was happy with having done that. And the kids grew up, they're happy. And they probably do, according to him, give a hard time to mom sometimes for that. Another one was a teacher, a journalist, who flew all over the world, and was never around. And ultimately decided that he would step back from that and take things that kept him around more. So I mean, they are starting to make those kinds of decisions. But what it's showing us is not that two people can have these high-flying careers at the same time, but rather that somebody has to step back, and it almost doesn't matter who it is. Someone has to step back. Go ahead, step back at home. So the other guest we had was a teacher. And he gave us an insight on paternity leave. And what he told us, one question we had had was when men take paternity leave, what are the stats? Are they home while the wives are home just giving a hand or they really, you know, coming in and staying home with the child alone, because obviously that's a big difference. And Steph explained, as did another guest of ours, a female guest, that they staggered the paternity leave so that someone who was a family member could be home with a newborn, and they could stretch out the time before they needed to hire a caregiver or bring them to a daycare. This is where analysis is important to understand how these families are cobbling it together. But as I'm hearing it, Andi, your perspective, you know, your voice here is men and how they're handling the situation. Women, we have found, also do something called gatekeeping. They're used to running the house, they say how the laundry is folded, dinner, what's prepared. We have to let go of some of those, our anal habits, and I'm speaking for myself, and just allow someone else. My husband did the shopping yesterday. I have to stop thinking in my head, all the things he forgot, or all the things that he bought that I don't like or don't usually buy. It's okay. And if he decides to make a meal during the week, I've got to eat it. I'm sure it's gonna be healthy. And I can't be the gatekeeper, which will be which penalizes me at the end of the day, if I can't delegate, if I can't accept that my children put their laundry away 60% perfect and some clean stuff goes back in the laundry bin or whatever they do, or dirty into the drawers. It's okay. And that's part of this discussion that we have to take up, maybe a little less perfect because we will be liberated if we can do that. Now we're gonna start sharing. Andi Simon: Your evidence is also grounded in a history where when the men came back from the war, the women who were doing just fine working were put back into their home. And welcome to the suburbs where they had their home. And I've met men who have wanted to sell the home, only to find out that it was a castle that the woman had controlled and built, and she was not going to sell that home. He thought it was a house. And she said, I'm not selling this, I built it. It was her career in a complementary fashion. Their identity is connected to their job, which was to care for the home. And I met another woman whose husband was an accountant, and she had dinner for him every night, the same time, when he came home. I'm going to think of it as theater, they knew those roles really well. They could play them in a heartbeat. Could they change roles and play a new one? Oh, it was terrifying. The thought of, How will I do this? So there's so much complexity into something that on the tip of our tongue says, But of course you can. And I'm not sure it's that easy. Maura Carlin: Something I don't think we talk about enough is the work demands and how they've changed over the generations. No jobs or few jobs are nine to five anymore, or even less than that. And I'll just tell you that my mother was a teacher, she was still home in the afternoon. My father, while he wasn't a businessman, actually negotiated for shorter hours and did freelance on the side. And he was home on Fridays. But even when he worked full time in the city, it wasn't the same kind of hours that we are expected to work now. And you know, that makes it harder. For one, to deal with the children, but it's harder to get childcare for those who want to work 9-7 or 7-9. So that's another piece that I don't think we talk about enough. Christie Derrico: I'm sorry, the entrepreneurial solution. That's, I don't advocate any 9-9. No. And believe me, I work hard. But a lot of my work and my husband's work, we do bring it home. What I was going to say, before we did mention Confessions of a Superwoman. But another great article is, Why I Want a Wife, which I had to write an essay on in high school. One of my teachers had me write an essay and it has nothing to do with, you know, partners, sexual partners. It's a support system. And this hidden workload. Running a house is laborious if you are cleaning in COVID. So many people couldn't have their cleaning help come in and they realized, this is really tough work. And there's a lot more I think that can go into parenting than just, you know, the ministerial making the sausage, as they call it. I mean, there are issues that come up with children, or at least in some families, that can't be addressed by other people. Andi Simon: Yep, they need their parents. Now that leads to the role of parents. Because, you know, we started the conversation: Has our society put on the side burner the child? And it worries me because rather than the child being the foremost most important thing that we should be working for, that we should be developing society around, it's almost a sidebar, and as Frank was discovering by taking care of his grandchild, this is exciting. It's wonderful. It's exhilarating. Why are we all built around our children? So as you're doing your research, why aren't we all built around the children? What is it in our American society where children are hard, both wonderful, but also challenging. How do we get our values on that stuff? Christie Derrico: The word helicoptering has come up. And in the course of our research, the UN study on birth rates has found that over-parenting has contributed to the lower birth rates, the expectations, and truthfully, I think children are less independent. The days of "just be home at six" are gone. They're very orchestrated with lots of activities. And a lot of parents' involvement is required driving. Even if you hire someone to drive, you have to be careful that it has to be somebody who's very skilled with your precious cargo. But that is a part of this discussion. And now we found again, with the pandemic, with the schools closed, a huge bulk of the support system that parents had disappeared overnight. And not only did you have them home, you are expected to do their schooling in front of a computer. But I will say that from the guests we've spoken to and our personal experiences, I actually don't think people have put the parenting on the backburner. I think that they're expecting to do it all. And they're expecting to do parenting at a much higher level than at least my parents did. Some of it's from society, and some of it is internal. Yeah, and some of it is the kids. Andi Simon: You're raising some interesting questions about society because I remember that I was pretty free and I had a bike, and I could ride my bike after school over to Lord and Taylor's and I had my own allowance. I could spend it however, I didn't have to explain much of anything. We went outside onto the street and played kickball, whoever was around. I still know my next-door neighbor. And Bobby and I laugh sometimes how free we were to be, and to learn through that becoming. But today, everything is different. And if you don't have them in lacrosse, and then soccer and then rugby, then they hang around with nothing to do because nobody's outside hanging out playing kickball. So you're caught between the two. So let's assume that's just going to be our society for a while. As you look forward to coming out of the pandemic, any thoughts for the women who are willing to look for that balance dilemma and somehow address it in some fashion because the businesses are full of a balance dilemma. Maura Carlin: I think it's going to have to be flexible. And it's going to have to be flexibility coming from the employers. The problem that I see, and I think about this all the time is, it's one thing to be flexible. But if the workload doesn't change, it's very hard. And I'm not talking about those who allow the workload to fill as many hours as you have. But there are things that just can't be flexible. I tried it at one point. After having kids, if the judge needed me to be in court, I had to be in court. And it really didn't matter whether it wasn't my day, or I had a parent-teacher conference. So, you know, there's a society piece in control. And those are two good insights. Christie Derrico: Well, I have managed to make my career flexible. And I have been before judges and I can remember a couple of tough experiences. I did have one story. My husband cut his finger one morning, and all I had was a Mickey Mouse or princess Band-Aid. And I said, "This is it. You're gonna have to go to court with this." So he puts it on and he goes, "This is great. The jury is gonna love this. They'll know I'm a dad." And I walked out and I said, "Ah, if I had walked in with the Mickey Mouse Band-Aid, I think that they would have thought, She's a terrible mom. She can't even get a Band-Aid. See the symbolism? Isn't it the same Band-Aid? In any event, this comes back to the issue of change. You know, when deciding careers and which position, the thing that we have addressed on our show are pivots, divots, pitfalls, curveballs...they happen, and how do you handle it. Or if you did decide to stay home for 10 years for great reasons, we have to stop thinking of parenting as pure drudgery. It's the most wonderful time and you only get that one chance. So if you decide to stay home, what happens? It takes a lot of courage. And we have featured many guests who have done return-ships. One woman was like a 40-year-old intern. And we didn't get to address this in one of our recent shows, but it was on my mind. She said that she felt that her managers could turn to her and talk about business problems because she was the only adult in the room, or, you know, a senior adult, not somebody who was 22 years old and didn't even know where to put the stamp on an envelope. So there are aspects, and now we can look at different careers, see where we might fit in best and aim for that. It probably takes us a couple years to reenter. But looking at these pivots, I think you have to just build yourself up and do it. Andi Simon: It's interesting listening to you because I hope those who are listening to us begin to think to themselves, How do we begin to change our attitudes or values, our minds? I did a workshop for the Petroleum Association in Pennsylvania in June last year, and they're all struggling without drivers. I said, Have you thought of hiring women? And they looked at me. I said, Well, listen, what is wrong with having drivers from 10-3? And let them do it when they drop the kids off at the schoolbus and pick them up after? And they looked at me. I said, You're short, you know, you have a challenge. And how can you then compliment them differently? How do you start to think about it from the eyes of what's possible? Because they're all sitting there waiting for jobs. And you simply say, Well, that's not our job. Why? Christie Derrico: These are the discussions we need to have because benefits are tied to employment. So if you have an employee, and they have a benefits package, it's harder to rationalize what is part time. Does a person want to take that on and have no benefits? So those are the solutions and the discussions we need to have. So we can have people that just can't commit to 40 hours a week, or 38-42 hours a week. And there are places for them. The biggest thing though when you return to the workforce is your family and getting them to adapt to loading the dishwasher, doing their own laundry, picking up a night to cook something. This is part of the cooperation. Andi Simon: You know, as a conductor of the family orchestra, everyone had an instrument to play. And if you conducted it well, they enjoyed it, it was an opportunity to shine as opposed to a penalty box because they were trialed. We can talk about how I trained my family, because part of it was to give them the confidence that they could have the opportunity to learn the training, and not to do and to be them. I was the enabler, the facilitator, the lover, the hugger, but not the "I'll take charge, you really messed it up" person. And that requires maturity on our part, to see this as a conductor might, where they aren't all playing their instruments yet, but nobody's trained them to play them. And so the metaphor that works for me might be something to share as you're thinking about them. I do have two thoughts to talk about. What is self-care? We have a 30-day challenge, actually a 60-day challenge, for a group of women presidents down in Nashville, it's going on now. And it's called Time to Take Care of You. And they're all stressed out. But the research is extraordinary that self-care can reduce stress. And what's happened is that for many successful women, they think it's guilty to take care of themselves. What does that mean, anything from having a cup of coffee on their porch, to working out, to setting aside time on their calendar for quiet time, a quiet walk, to go and have a hobby that they can do and how to program it so that it's part of their day. What are you seeing in terms of self-care, because this is our third and I'm going to be doing these as often as I can because everyone who gets into them doesn't want it to stop. Taking care of themselves is something to overcome, called guilt. And then when they do it, they go, "Oh, this makes me feel like I'm valued. I'm worth something." What do you see? Maura, do you want to start? Maura Carlin: Well, I mean, personally, I'm one of those people who needs to exercise. I need to move. Not everyone feels that way. I think the problem is finding the time. It's very hard to set aside that time. And Christie and I do talk about that you need to have friends. If that's important to you, you need to get exercise for health reasons. But for some people, it's sort of like what energizes them. I think you need time to yourself. And I will tell you that I have started doing a gratitude compassion class that I'm failing at miserably. But that's okay. And the big part of it is being kind to yourself. Yes. And I think that's what we all need more of. Andi Simon: Well, I find that the challenge is just fascinating. Because once they get into it, it takes a day or two or three, and then all of a sudden, they don't want to stop it. And it has a gratitude part at the end and the wall of wins with a high-fiving each other. Christie, do you find people with self-care as the afterthought also, because without it, you can't be happy? Christie Derrico: Well, in the evolution of my family, my grandmother unfortunately passed away before she was 60. And I feel that she nearly worked herself to death. She did have an illness, but she was not good at the self-care aspect of it. And she had the biggest heart. And I think of her all the time in terms of the lessons as a business owner, and a mother. And my mother brought that to the table to say, You got to have sports, you have to have friends. So it's something that's been part of my life. I get up very early to do my exercise, which sometimes can be, you know, exhausting, but it's maybe you do it three days a week, and not five, you know, you find a way to accommodate it. But in talking about pivots and trying new things, I went back to school, and I am almost halfway through a Masters in English. And I see our podcast as something that Maura and I did. That was a personal hobby that turned into something. We learned new things. And we had to make room for this. I mean, Maura edits the audio for our shows, I do the newsletter and the graphics. I can't even believe I've learned how to do that. I think it's really important to keep learning new things, especially with all the new technology. And it can be very frustrating. But I think actually keeping up with it is really important. From a mental standpoint, and to not feel like the world has passed. Andi Simon: So we are about ready to wrap up. So if that is your first: the world doesn't pass you by, you must stay up on top. Do you have one or two other things more and then I'll let Christie do hers. Maura Carlin: The thing that I keep telling myself that I wished I told myself earlier was to be bolder and be braver. And things that scare me, I have to go do them. Andi Simon: I love that be bolder, be braver. I never thought of it that way. But you're right. To be brave I think is what we need to be because the times have always been tough. And somehow we all had families that mustered through them. And I think these are going to be exciting times to come out and be brave, be courageous. Christie, your last thoughts. Christie Derrico: With the gratitude theme, sometimes we have to stop and reflect and really applaud ourselves about what we've achieved. Stop focusing on what we didn't do, the things that didn't turn out great. Never. You must love to have experienced love loss, like it's all part of it. And I think that Maura and I do a post mortem at the end of our season, and even sitting here today, I was thinking this weekend, how much we achieved on the goals we set for ourselves. And if some don't happen, that doesn't really matter. That's okay too. But it's important to take stock and be appreciative and compliment yourself that you've done a good job. Andi Simon: You know, the brain research I love because it's, you know, being an anthropologist and looking at culture, that the brain, the human being, needs gratitude, appreciation. It needs to have those three things every day that you did well. And all of a sudden, the car is actually toasted and the rain goes flying around and that love hormone makes you feel warm and fuzzy. If you don't, the cortisol has a great time making you feel angry. Somebody said to me at a meeting, "I have a friend who's angry all the time. How do they change?" He said, "Just take control of your mind. There's nothing in your mind. That's anger. It's just the way you think. So now what's happening is you're happy." How do you turn lemons into lemonade because nobody can do it but us. And we can each do it so that we can then smile every morning. So the first thing that my little 30-day challenge tells you to do is to wake in the morning and smile. And all of a sudden, the day looks very cool. Why not? It's perfect. This has been such fun. If they want to listen to The Balance Dilemma, or get a hold of you, where and how do they do that? Christie Derrico: We are on the internet at thebalancedilemma.com where you can find old episodes. We have show notes and things recommended by our guests. We're also on social media at The Balance Dilemma podcast on Facebook and LinkedIn. And any place you listen to your podcasts, which could be Apple, iTunes, Google Spotify. The Balance Dilemma, you can find all the episodes and listen in. We appreciate it. Andi Simon: You were bold and brave and courageous and true. And I loved having both of you here. So for my listeners, all of you have done a great job making us in the top 5% of global podcasts. I don't know how many podcasts there are, so I don't know what that actually means, other than it's fun to share. And we're in the top world 20's futures podcast. So I'm a real fan of Futurism because the signals are coming to us every day. And today's podcast makes me remember that there are signals coming to us that the times are changing fast. We know that. But how can we do this in a way that will be stronger for our kids and their kids and create a real strong culture and society where children are in the forefront of what we're doing and how we're doing it? And that doesn't mean just popping them in the car and helicoptering them over to the next lacrosse game. I mean, there's something broader here and even getting them to love to read and understand the joy of exploring ideas and staying on top of what's happening because they're going to lead us. These are great, great stories. You can reach me at info@andisimon.com. My books are on Amazon, Barnes & Noble: Rethink: Smashing The Myths of Women in Business and On the Brink: A Fresh Lens to Take Your Business to New Heights from which this whole podcast developed. And as we move into our post-300th podcast, I'm really happy to be sharing lots and lots of great stories. Thanks for coming. Have a great day. Stay well and enjoy the joy of living.

You're In Good Company
Australia's first Google & Spotify employee on investing in tech | Kate Vale

You're In Good Company

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 20, 2022 36:12


Ever wish you could ask the leaders of the world's largest tech companies about what to invest in? From Australia's first employee and Managing Director at Google, to Spotify, to her own venture capital fund, Kate knows a thing or two about what makes a tech company successful! On today's episode, we ask Kate all about her career, and what she believes are the greatest investing opportunities in consumer technology today. Keep track of Sophie and Maddy between the episodes on Instagram, or on TikTok, and come and be part of the conversation on Facebook with our You're In Good Company Discussion Group. Got a question or a topic suggestion? Email us here. *****In the spirit of reconciliation, Equity Mates Media and the hosts of You're In Good Company acknowledge the Traditional Custodians of country throughout Australia and their connections to land, sea and community. We pay our respects to their elders past and present and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people today. *****You're In Good Company is a product of Equity Mates Media. All information in this podcast is for education and entertainment purposes only. Equity Mates gives listeners access to information and educational content provided by a range of financial services professionals. It is not intended as a substitute for professional finance, legal or tax advice. The hosts of You're In Good Company are not financial professionals and are not aware of your personal financial circumstances. Equity Mates Media does not operate under an Australian financial services licence and relies on the exemption available under the Corporations Act 2001 (Cth) in respect of any information or advice given.Before making any financial decisions you should read the Product Disclosure Statement and, if necessary, consult a licensed financial professional. Do not take financial advice from a podcast. For more information head to the disclaimer page on the Equity Mates website where you can find ASIC resources and find a registered financial professional near you. You're In Good Company is part of the Acast Creator Network. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

#GeekTalk Daily
1209 #GeekTalk Daily - Mit Google, Spotify und Samsung

#GeekTalk Daily

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 12, 2022 7:11


Google Maps integriert Live-Daten für Luftqualität – vorerst nur in den USA iOS 16: weitere Apple-Apps können deinstalliert werden Meta Portal: Smart-Display soll sich nur noch an Geschäftskunden richten Spotify will zum Marktführer bei Hörbüchern werden, doch Apple hat ebenfalls Pläne Porsche schluckt den E-Bike-Hersteller Fazua Samsung Odyssey Neo G7 und Odyssey G4: Zwei Gaming-Monitore vorgestellt Apple Maps als Reiseführer

Playing FTSE
Earnings Deep Dive! Alphabet (Google), Spotify, Polaris and Meta!

Playing FTSE

Play Episode Listen Later May 1, 2022 58:13


This week, Paul makes a bold prediction about Meta Platforms. Will he be right? Earnings reports are continuing to come in and we're looking at advertising monster Alphabet, streaming specialist Spotify, and a little bit on recreation vehicle manufacturer Polaris. First up, though, it's a game. It's been a while since the three of us got together for a podcast and Steve D has a game to ease us back into the swing of things. This time, we're thinking about what hedge funds own. Steve's been painstakingly looking through the top holdings of the top performing hedge funds and he's noticed some interesting recurring themes. So Paul and Steve W are guessing away at which is the most popular. Then it's on to Elon Musk's takeover of Twitter. Blink and you might miss it. After that, it's time for Alphabet's earnings. Google's parent company has had an interesting quarter and it's been catching the eye of all three of our podcasters. A mixed effort from Alphabet as the profit-making segment fared generally well with the exception of YouTube and the loss-making parts of the business generally pushed higher. The market wasn't impressed, though, so is there something that we're not seeing? Next is Spotify, which Steve D likes more than Paul or Steve W. Following on from the Netflix report last week, it's interesting to see how the music streamer has got on. Find out what a MAU is (in case you've never seen our show before, or in case you've forgotten like Paul). One reason that Spotify is particularly interesting is that it's successfully been operating with an ad-supported tier. With talk of Netflix moving in that direction, could this be a model to follow? Lastly, via a quick detour on Polaris from Steve W (it's a cyclical company doing cyclical things) it's time to see if Paul's guess about Meta Platforms is on the money…

Startup Insider
Startup Insider Daily • Finanzierungs-Rekord • Gorillas • Tesla • Recht auf Reparatur • Spotify • Snapchat

Startup Insider

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 11, 2022 47:42


Heute u.a. mit folgenden Nachrichten: - Deutsche Startups: Finanzierung auf Rekordwert - Gorillas gewinnt vor Gericht - Tesla kündigt erneut Robotertaxis an - EU-Parlament stimmt für Recht auf Reparatur - Facebook muss Hassrede-Kopien suchen - Vodafone will Bahn-Funklöcher schließen - 150 Millionen Euro Strafe für Google - Spotify testet TikTok-ähnlichen Feed - Augmented Reality bei Gen Z beliebt Heute begrüßen wir im Rahmen der Reihe “Investments & Exits” Carlo Schmid, Principal bei Cherry Ventures.

This Week in Finance
NFTs to Instagram, Petco: The Next Hot Stock, Elon Dances to Berlin Gigafactory, Google/Spotify Fees

This Week in Finance

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 27, 2022 37:24


Buffett, NFTs, Walmart, and Elon. All that and more, in This Week in Finance! Mar 17th - Mar 24th  -----  NFTs: https://techcrunch.com/2022/03/15/instagram-nfts/?guccounter=1  Buffett: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/berkshire-hathaway-acquire-alleghany-11-094234451.html  Disney: https://www.cnbc.com/2022/03/20/disney-ceo-chapek-iger-falling-out.html?__source=iosappshare%7Ccom.apple.mobilenotes.SharingExtension Illness: https://www.cnbc.com/2022/03/20/health-experts-predict-uptick-in-us-covid-cases-due-to-new-bapoint2-variant.html?__source=iosappshare%7Ccom.apple.mobilenotes.SharingExtension  Food: https://www.cnbc.com/2022/03/20/big-food-automation-is-making-its-way-to-main-street-menus.html?__source=iosappshare%7Ccom.apple.mobilenotes.SharingExtension  Boeing: https://www.cnbc.com/2022/03/21/china-plane-crash-china-eastern-airlines-boeing-737-crashes-132-people-on-board.html?__source=iosappshare%7Ccom.apple.mobilenotes.SharingExtension  Diversity: https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/diversity-equality-in-american-business/?sref=xuVirdpv%3Futm_campaign%3Dtwitter-moment&utm_source=twitter&utm_content=equality&utm_campaign=socialflow-organic&utm_medium=social  Petco: https://www.cnbc.com/2022/03/23/petco-is-inflation-proof-ceo-says.html?__source=iosappshare%7Ccom.apple.mobilenotes.SharingExtension  Tesla: https://www.cnbc.com/2022/03/22/gigafactory-berlin-tesla-ceo-elon-musk-opens-electric-vehicle-plant.html  DOT: https://www.cnbc.com/2022/03/23/buttigieg-says-dot-will-dole-out-2point9-billion-in-infrastructure-grants.html?__source=iosappshare%7Ccom.apple.mobilenotes.SharingExtension    Google/Spotify: https://finance.yahoo.com/m/75fa19cb-d734-3d23-a60f-e3d49473f44b/google-will-let-spotify-add.html?.tsrc=fin-srch  Walmart: https://www.cnbc.com/2022/03/23/walmart-sues-bjs-wholesale-claiming-theft-of-sams-club-self-checkout-tech.html -----  Website- https://jemi.so/financialfriends

Doppelgänger Tech Talk
#130 e-Commerce merkt Krieg | Freelance vs. Founder | Florence Gaub | Hubspot ❤️ Podcast | Apple Abo | Frank Bohlen

Doppelgänger Tech Talk

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 26, 2022 66:23


Als Freelancer etwas gründen? Google + Spotify gegen Apple? Person des Monats: Die Sicherheitsexpertin Florence Gaub. Hubspot macht Podcaster_innen groß. Instacart wird kleiner. E-Commerce merkt Krieg. Apple macht Abo. Tencent wächst langsamer. Der Digital Market Act kommt im Oktober. Blue Orca Capital shortet Li-Cycle. P.S.: Sorry für die Hintergrundgeräusche in der ersten Hälfte Philipp Glöckler (https://twitter.com/gloeckler) und Philipp Klöckner (https://twitter.com/pip_net) sprechen heute über: (00:05:00) Gründen während man Geld zum Leben braucht (00:14:00) Spotify und Google Pay (00:16:45) Apple Hardware subscription (00:22:00) Hubspot und Podcasts (00:32:45) state of ecommerce (00:50:00) Tencent Shownotes: Florence Gaub (Sicherheitsexpertin) https://twitter.com/florencegaub Stefan Brand (Care) https://twitter.com/der_brand Blue Orca Capital is short Li-Cycle https://twitter.com/blueorcainvest/status/1506982970145615878 **Doppelgänger Tech Talk Podcast** Sheet https://doppelgaenger.io/sheet/ Earnings & Event Kalender https://www.doppelgaenger.io/kalender/ Disclaimer https://www.doppelgaenger.io/disclaimer/ Post Production by Jan Wagener https://www.linkedin.com/in/jan-wagener-49270018b Sponsoring: https://www.doppelgaenger.io/sponsoring/

We're Listening
Ep. 56 Trinity Ncube ”Slowing Down”

We're Listening

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 28, 2022 30:28


FRESH VOICES & NEW FACES…People We Should Know in the Community.  Ep. 56 Trinity Ncube  “Slowing Down” Trinity comes from a very academic and intellectual background.  Although he had much success, he always felt something was missing.  When he heard someone sharing the 3 Principles understanding, he felt there was really something to it. Trinity heard Truth.  He realized he needed to slow down, listen to his inner guidance, and surprisingly ended up doing more.  Trinity is now creating and teaching from the 3P understanding. ________________ The 3PGC's podcast called “We're Listening.  A Community Where All Voices Are Heard” hosted by Rob Cook.  Three Principles Global Community is a collection of practitioners, coaches, and community leaders from all over the globe who point clients toward their own innate health and wisdom.  No matter the circumstances, the goal is to see that you already possess the power to transform your life.  LISTEN TO THE PODCAST HERE:  https://imrobcook.com  https://3pgc.org/3pgc-podcast/ DOWNLOAD ON ALL YOUR FAVORITE STREAMING PLATFORMS: Amazon, Apple, Google & Spotify.  

Feeding Fatty
I Want To Feel Better. Focus On Disease Cause and Prevention

Feeding Fatty

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 4, 2022 62:40


I Want To Feel Better. Focus On Disease Cause and Prevention Featuring Dr. Linda Marquez Goodine I want to feel better. I think we've been shaped that way by social media, the news, I mean, everything you see, you go online, you order it, and you get it in 24 hours. You don't even have to leave your house for anything. If you want coffee, a pizza, but you know, it's not always the best option. As I always have conversations with patients because they want to get better About Dr. Linda Dr. Linda Marquez Goodine, D.C., C.N. Dr. Linda Marquez Goodine is a Chiropractic Physician, coach, author, speaker, wellness educator and podcaster who has been practicing since 1993. She received her undergraduate training at California State University Fullerton and attended Los Angeles College of Chiropractic. She has been licensed and practiced in several states including California, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Tennessee and is in active practice in Lake Havasu, Arizona. She is a certified Functional Medicine Practitioner with extensive postgraduate training in Nutrition, Functional Blood Chemistry, Functional Endocrinology, Brain Chemistry, Thyroid Health and Managing Obesity. She has been studying health and nutrition for over 40 years. Her mission is to help people get to the root cause of their health problem, fix it with a natural, drugless personalized step by step plan including addressing the mind, body and spirit for optimal living.   She currently devotes her practice to treating difficult conditions using customized blood test panels, hormone testing, gut testing and additional functional test to get to the root cause. Her non-invasive therapies, natural remedies, systems based approach and passion for health have allowed her to help thousands of people. She keeps a very active lifestyle in addition to giving workshops, writing articles, in private practice and the mother of three children and is happily married to her high school sweetheart. She enjoys spending time with her family, running and reading books on health, fitness and personal development. Contact Information: 888.503.5587 info@premierhealthoc.com Social Media www.DrlindaMarquez.com https://www.instagram.com/drlindamarquez/ https://www.facebook.com/drlindamarquez/ https://www.youtube.com/c/LindaMarque More Information Linda Marquez Goodine, D.C., C.N. Premier Health & Wellness 540 N. Golden Circle Dr. Suite 112 Santa Ana, CA 92705 Office 714-599-3339 Email: DrLinda@PremierHealthOC.com www.premierHealthOC.com www.feedingfatty.com www.drlindamarquez.com   Full Transcript Below   I Want To Feel Better. Focus On Disease Cause and Prevention Featuring Dr. Linda Marquez Goodine Sun, 8/1 6:11PM • 1:02:20 SUMMARY KEYWORDS eat, people, food, body, good, talking, feel, thinking, protein, meditation, muscle, thyroid, patients, running, life, mind, problem, moving, brain, athlete SPEAKERS Dr. Linda, Terry, Roy Barker   Roy Barker  00:05 Hello and welcome to another episode of Feeding Fatty This is Roy  Of course we are the podcast chronically our journey through wellness or to wellness. We know we started a lot of talking about diets and what we eat not necessarily a diet but just trying to take a more balanced approach. You know what we eat getting away from the sweets and carbs. We've also you know, kind of gotten into exercise and movement which is important and mindset as well. We talk a lot about you know, what's going on in our life and we also have professionals that we bring on from time to time to talk to them so today is no different. We have Dr. Linda and I'm going to let Terry introduce her   Terry  00:08 this is Terry  Dr. Linda Marquez Goodine is a chiropractic physician, coach, author, speaker, wellness educator and past podcaster who has been practicing since night 1993 I thought that was that was a typo. I always say it's 19 something. She received her undergraduate training at Cal State University Fullerton and attended Los Angeles College of Chiropractic. She's a Certified Functional Medicine Practitioner with extensive postgraduate training in nutrition, functional blood chemistry, functional endocrinology, brain chemistry, thyroid health, and managing obesity. She has been studying health and nutrition for over 40 years. Her mission is to help people get to the root of their health problems, fix it with a natural drugless personalized step by step plan, including addressing the mind body and spirit for optimal living. Dr. Linda, thank you so much for coming on. There's so much more to say. But I want to get right into talking to you. Welcome to the show. Thank you so much for being on with us.   Dr. Linda  01:55 Oh, thank you for having me on. I was just been so excited to chat with you. You both just have just you're full of just life and just I love your personalities. Do I go when I lived in the south for a little bit like in South Carolina. I lived in North Carolina and Tennessee. And then it's like you start talking like y'all and thank you ma'am. And this is Southern girl coming out. Oh   Terry  02:22 my gosh, I would have been backhanded if I didn't say ma'am or sir. I still say it and people get offended now. It's like whoops, I'm don't mean to offend you. But   Roy Barker  02:31 it's funny because I spent some time in the northeast and you know, I always said thank, you know, like a cashier to convince me Thank you, ma'am. You call them ma'am. You know, it's like it was an insult to be called ma'am there.   Terry  02:44 Guys.   Roy Barker  02:46 Well tell us a little bit about your journey. How did you grow up wanting to you know, help others is this kind of been something that led you down the functional path?   Dr. Linda  02:57 You know, I've always kind of been I always saved I'm still a nerd I was I've always been a nerd and I always I kind of go back to middle school when I just you know you have those moments you know you have that day that you just you just know something's just gonna change your life well I had that moment when I was in middle school when a kid was he said some not so nice things about my about my body. And it was just that one thing that you know you you turn would say make lemon into lemonade. You know, life gives you lemons, you make lemonade and and I just from that time I was about 12 years old. I just just totally just changed by live I started I started running which then I fell in love with running and then my mom started taking me to the do remember Jack Lalanne? Yeah. So one of the first gyms that he had opened was in Orange County, California. And my mom would take me to the gym when it was women back in the day, it was just women were on certain days, men were on certain days and then on Sunday,we would split the time, ever since   Terry  04:11 Wow.   Dr. Linda  04:12 Um, it just it really just changed my life. I mean, I grew up under care under like chiropractic care. we ever got sick, which very rarely we did. My mom went just and got herbs out from the garden and just made us a tea and just said drink this. You know, we didn't miss school. If we have a little cough. It's just like drink this. You're going to school. It's not like nowadays. And she cooked for us at home. We weren't really want to pop a pill for anything. It's like okay, we're going to go to the chiropractor. And so that's kind of how I grew up. And I knew that I wanted to be a doctor. I wanted to help people. And I really wanted to be a brain surgeon because I thought that's like the hardest thing that anybody could do. That would be the coolest thing. But there's a little problem. I hate blood.   Terry  05:00 That reading under it.   Dr. Linda  05:02 Like, I don't know about that. And growing up under chiropractic care now i just i rant I because I ran a lot as well, I ran cross country and I started running marathons and so forth. But that's really what kept me on healthy and sane. And it was just amazing what they could do the miracles that I saw just in our in our, you know, in the practice, just watching people and hearing the stories, but in our, you know, with our family as well. So that's kind of where my journey started. And I went to chiropractic college, and from there, you know, physical medicine is working more on the body, the physical portion of the body. And then I got more into what's called Functional Medicine, which is more working on from a nutritional perspective, the biochemistry of the body. So that's kind of how I got involved in in what I'm doing now. And I love it.   Roy Barker  06:01 So interesting, bringing up Jack Lalanne, because I remember my dad, and one of our neighbors, they would get together, I guess, whenever his show was, I can't remember like in the evening, and they had this, you know, like a slant board that he did a lot of stuff on slant boards, but he wore those like, coveralls tap things all day. Yeah.   Terry  06:23 Yeah, but my dad had like a jumpsuit, it was just suit thing. And he used to mow his lawn mowed the lawn and it with his with his black socks that we thought we laughed forever. Like, Dad, you are such a nerd. And we cannot have any way Come while you're doing this. Oh my god. Well, that just seems like such a natural progression for you to go into functional medicine and the holistic side of it, since that's how you were brought up. And so you know, so many of us, it seems like now we just really want to throw pills at it and just fix it quick fix. We want the drive thru, we want everything now. It's just everything on demand. And it can't be like that, especially when you're talking about your health.   Dr. Linda  07:14 I think we've been shaped that way by by social media, the news, I mean, everything you see, like you say you want something, you go online, you order it, and you get it in 24 hours, you know, you don't even have to leave your house for anything anymore. If you want coffee, you want you know, a pizza, which I don't eat, but you know it pretty much anything. If you want to you can google anything, you want to learn something, you just YouTube it and it's there instantly. But you know, it's not always the best option. As I always have conversations with patients because they want to get better. They want to say, Oh, well, if I do this, well, I feel better tomorrow, yet they've had an issue for years. And a lot of them like it's got to be easy. Otherwise, they won't do it. And it really frustrates me. And I think that's kind of where the mind training comes in. And I remember I believe it's Rohn Jim Rohn. He says, don't wish for things to be easier, wish for you to be better. Because when you're better, things will be easier. Everything you do becomes easier, not Let's wish that this was easier. And that's kind of the progression of where we have gone as a society. And it's really just just disheartening. Because we never get to, I think, reach our full potential if we just want everything to be easier.   Terry  08:46 Yeah, and it just seems like I mean, everybody, I feel like everybody wants to do the right thing, but wanting and doing that. It's just not the same thing.   Roy Barker  09:00 Well, and we found out it's, you know, we talk start have started talking a lot about sustainability. Because, you know, I'm that guy that wants to quit and cookies today and tomorrow, I want to see, you know, a big difference. And I know that's not realistic, but it's like, you know, that's the that's kind of the world my mind lives in. And so, you know, us trying to make these little changes and tweaks that we can mindlessly do from now on, you know, something that we don't have to continually think about and just because that's us, we we know what we should do. And we know how to do it. We know all the right things. It's just, you know, something, we can start but something will typically derail us like you know, I don't know just a change in schedule. Sometimes that's all it takes   Terry  09:48 something happy or stressful either way.   Dr. Linda  09:52 I think that's where the mindset comes in. And I that's where behavior modification and I look at my soul As an athlete, and that's how I say I'm an athlete, and if I'm an athlete that requires daily discipline of mine training, water intake movement, what fuel I'm putting in my body. And you know, when I'm in practice still, and I do functional medicine and physical medicine, the physical aspect is I'm still adjusting patients and I will share with them because they come in with like, shoulder problems, back problems, knee problems, or you know, a lot of kids their their necks, they're like this the whole time. They have horrible posture. And I'm telling them, it's not what I'm doing. And here, it's what are you doing the 24 and a half other hour 23 and a half other hours that you're not in the office when I'm working on you, we need to focus on. And I think when you change that mindset that you know, hey, I'm Roy, I'm an athlete in training and your training is so that you can perform better in life. And you can be the best version of you. Because I always feel if you if you're not feeding yourself, Well, you can't express yourself to the fullest potential that I believe God has given you gifts to share with everyone else. So everyone else is losing now.   Roy Barker  11:19 We talked about this, that it affects us. You know, we I've got another business podcast, but you know, we had a guy on there talked about, you know, to be a good leader, we have to have that self care, we got to get our sleep, we got to eat right. And it's true. Because, you know, if you don't get enough sleep, you typically grumpier, you don't make as good or as quick decisions. And it just it, it really affects all areas of our life and our partners as well. Because when I don't feel good, I'm sure. You know, I'm not as active or as quick to do things for Terry as I should be. So we, anyway, that's a good point to make   Terry  11:56 leading by example. Its such a when you think about it, it's like, oh, my gosh, what do I have? What do I have delete about? But you do everybody does? You just have to do it?   Roy Barker  12:10 Yeah. And I'm thinking about the about you saying that you're an athlete, as I just got to thinking when you said that, I thought, Oh, I'm kind of like SpongeBob is SpongeBob, his friend, you know, like, Yeah, what is that? Yeah. What I feel like   Terry  12:26 always thinking, I'm the athlete that's gonna join the hot dog eating contest. That's terrible. I'm kidding. That was an awesome analogy. Because I'm, I was thinking that's something I could do. If I thought I was an athlete, and started in that mindset, and started going toward that path. It might it, it would help me not might, it would help me try to get back in because, you know, we get off track. So   Dr. Linda  12:52 we're even asking yourself, what would the best version of you be like? No. Do you have a game or having a picture of the best version of you? What would he or she look like? And it's totally up to you however you want that person to be?   Terry  13:09 No. Oh, that's awesome. Yeah, taking notes. Yeah.   Roy Barker  13:14 You know that that vision because we talk a lot about in in business, where do we you know, where do you see yourself? How do we want to get there? So we should do the same thing with our with our health and wellness as well. So we had a couple different things we hope to get to. But I think we wanted to start with the five health strategies women should know that doctors don't sell them.   Dr. Linda  13:43 We'll see what how many we can cover that. Yeah. interesting one, but let me tell you that because this is what I share with my patients especially as as we get older. A number one I'm like, you have to have protein. I'm like big on you've got it. I tell my patients and men and women I said the minimal you should be having as 100 grams of protein a day and have protein for breakfast, break your fast with protein. Because you have macros protein, you have fat, you have carbohydrates, you do not need carbohydrates to live, you do need fat because your brain is primarily made of fat and it will function off of fat, not necessarily I mean, it does also offer sugar carbohydrates. However, for every 100 grams of protein that you eat, your body will make 60 grams of carbohydrates. So it's still making carbs that other systems in the body can run off of it. Yeah, that's one thing I said eat protein for breakfast and, and I have them shoot for the goal. First eat 100 grams of protein. If you want to add in some carbs or something else after that, then go for it, and that way, most of the time, they're satiated. Not only that, they're starting to build muscle. And you when you focus on muscle, the fat just comes off. And you need to have healthy muscle in order to have a healthy body. Because there's other systems that benefit from having healthy, a healthy muscle mass, you know, in your body, and as you increase it, your fat mass is just going to go down. So that's one thing I said eat protein for breakfast and shoot for 100 grams.   Roy Barker  15:33 Okay, okay. Got it? Yeah, because, as on the chiropractor side, I guess, you know, our skeletal system is very dependent upon our muscles to make, you know, because that's another thing I know, about myself is not having as strong back muscles. You know, I tend to slump over probably more than I shouldn't   Terry  15:55 sitting at the desk and just, you know, look in different directions. And   Dr. Linda  16:00 in the end, take a look at the older population, they look more emaciated. We were just talking like about Jack Lalanne. I mean, he was ripped, and he looked amazing. It's like, Okay, take him and a person that's running all the time, who hardly has any muscle mass, and they both break their hip, who's going to recover faster? I'm banking on the guy with the muscle, not the scrawny guy who is going to lose even more muscle mass because they're like, well, I can't move, I can't do anything. Whereas the guy that has more muscle mass, like why can still work my upper body. So give me some weights or let me do something and they're going to heal and recover because most of the older population, they don't actually die from a hip fracture. They die from the complications of a hip fracture, that hit home that really hits home personally, because that did happen with a loved one. No, that's why I'm like, even as we get older, and one of the common reasons people don't eat protein as they get older is because they their stomach, they make less hydrochloric acid to break down to proteins, so they don't feel like they're hungry. And I'm like, Okay, then you need to start supplementing with hydrochloric acid because yes, you do start making less however, you, you need that in order to digest the protein that you're eating.   Terry  17:27 Okay. Interesting.   Roy Barker  17:32 All right, so what what is the what is the second thing   Dr. Linda  17:35 number two would be kind of like we're talking about, you know, protein for muscle is resistance training. Our ancestors were moving, they were they were moving all the time, the men went out and did the hunting. Right. They were very active. And women, they didn't just stay, stay, stay around the grounds and just chitchat. They were preparing things as well, they were doing so I'm a big believer of, you know, resistance training, moving heavy things, more functional movements, I do a couple different things. at the gym, I like to do more like I like to do squats, I like to do lunges, anything is going to work more the bigger muscles, you know, like, chest press, things of that sort. And I've also go to like a combat fitness class, which is a combination of like kickboxing, boxing, kind of martial arts and doing ropes and push ups and setups and you're just moving the whole time. And I believe that resistance training really helps a lot with that. And especially it just gives you more confidence. As women, I always feel like we need to be more confident. And that once again, is going to help build muscle and when you help build muscle, your basal metabolic rate goes up. So your fat mass goes down. And we have a tendency to focus I think we've had weight loss. The whole weight loss industry, that's what they're focused on weight loss, but whatever you focus more on, you become you have more of that problem. It's just like, what happened when Oh, drug free America. It's like, you know, we're having more drugs. Now. Why don't we focus on Hey, let's get America healthy.   Terry  19:27 Say no to drugs. That's the whole thing.   Dr. Linda  19:31 is like, let's let's focus on you know, becoming stronger, more functional in our movements, you know, posture and we're talking no kids who are, you know, here, it's sad that I have to tell kids, Okay, sit up, shoulders back, you know, the girls chest up, you know, and in their head is like, forward and like okay, you have like 12, a 12 pound bowling ball. That's way out here. And it's just creating biomechanically the body, you're gonna have a lot of other issues, lower back issues, mid back issues. And so just being mindful of even just your posture as well. So the the protein, the resistance training and the resistance training, you become more in tune with your, your, the physicality of your body, to your strength, your posture.   Roy Barker  20:21 And even if you can't make it to the gym, you know, there are a lot of things. And that's a great thing I keep in kind of been on this kick today about how what a great time we live in, we have so much information and things at our fingertips. But anyway, the point was, I was gonna say, we can look up ways to do the resistance training around the house with things that we have, we don't have to go buy a lot of equipment. We don't have to go to a gym, we can do it, you know, right here,   Terry  20:50 and there's a YouTube video for me, YouTube, whatever, there's something for everything.   Dr. Linda  20:54 Absolutely. And those bands come out come really handy through those really intense because you're, you're stressing the muscle throughout the full range of motion, right? Like working with free weights at the gym. It's just like, okay, you get to maximal contraction, then you just, you know, kind of release it and go back down when you're using bands. I mean, you're working the muscle and full range of motion. Oh, it's great.   Roy Barker  21:22 Yeah, and a lot of those two actually can help you incorporate that core strengthening as well, which I know that that's really important. You know, we tend to want to focus on our extremities, but that strengthen in our core, helps with balance and a lot of other things.   Dr. Linda  21:39 100% Absolutely. prevents a lot of lower back. lower back problems, which, literally, I mean, probably actually have you both experienced some back problems.   Roy Barker  21:52 Not just like, more, well, she's   Terry  21:56 got terrible I have a lower back fracture I didn't even know I ever had and then some crushed disc in my neck. And I just feel like I'm just all shriveled up already.   Roy Barker  22:05 Yeah, and I haven't had any thing like that. I mean, I was out moving some tree limbs yesterday and think I might have overdone it. So I've been kind of hobbling around like a older gentleman today.   Dr. Linda  22:19 So you're, you're a little sore today.   Roy Barker  22:22 very sore.   Terry  22:23 I feel like if I move, you know, I feel like some mornings I get up and I just don't want to move because I hurt in those certain areas. But I know once I get going, I do. Close your ears, Roy. Once I get going, I do feel I feel better afterwards. I mean, I'm gonna be tired until I address the issues, you know, like I should, I guess. But the more I move, the better I feel along the day, and I'm able to accomplish more.   Dr. Linda  22:57 And once you get going, it's kind of like okay, I'm going on, right? It's moving, it's moving. Right?   Terry  23:03 You can do this. I can do this. It can do this. I can do this.   Roy Barker  23:07 Well, sometimes it's like in life in business and health and exercise and everything. It's it's a momentum, if you can ever take that first step, the second step, and third step, they just become much easier.   Terry  23:21 Yeah.   Dr. Linda  23:21 And we have to talk to ourselves a lot of time. I mean, we all do, right. I'm not the only crazy one that's having conversations with her.   Terry  23:30 I'm my best listener. talker, not listener, I don't listen to myself, I talked to myself.   Dr. Linda  23:38 times we have some pretty intense conversations, right? I mean, in the morning, it's like, oh, you know, you really need to sleep you really need to get your rest. The other ones say get up. Yeah. And the other ones now but yeah, you went to bed late last night and it's like the the angel and the devil kind   Terry  23:57 of exactly. That is exactly what it's like. Yeah, I hope nobody is listening to what's going on in my head because I know what I'm that's it straight jack and for me, I'm going   Dr. Linda  24:10 all be committed if you can we all read each other's minds, you know, that person is thinking you look at them, like we're given the devil Look,   Terry  24:21 if you could just give them the little white bubble, you know, that says what they're thinking what what everybody's thinking, you know, with the little dots on it, and everybody's thinking this. There's a cloud. Oh, gosh. Okay, we digress. Yeah. So what's the third thing, ma'am   24:33 Third one I always tell my patients do this as well is check their ability to digest their food. Because you can be eating all this great food grass fed organic pasture raised, but if you're not digesting it, it's like you have holes in your tank. Should one have a real easy way to do this. is to take the baking de baking soda test. There's another test called the Heidelberg test, but you have to go into the doctor's office and it's like three, I think it's like 300 bucks, you swallow something in there, a little pill and then it tells you how much hydrochloric acid stomach is releasing. But if you do like a just a baking soda test, I have my patients do this like for three mornings in a row. And what they do is take about a quarter of a teaspoon of baking soda, pour it in some water, put in some water, mix it about four ounces first thing in the morning and drink it, they should get a nice, healthy belch within like the first 30 seconds minute, and within three minutes, if you don't belch there's a good likelihood that you're low in hydrochloric acid. And you need hydrochloric acid of course to stimulate instruct the whole digestive system important for gallbladder function, pancreatic output on liver function, opening and closing of different valves in the digestive tract. So said you've got to make sure that you're digesting the food that you are, you know you're eating, because then you're not extracting the nutrients. And you're not triggering the nutrient centers in the brain telling you Hey, I'm full. I've had enough. Okay. in the morning. I'll do that in the morning, then you want me know?   Terry  24:57 So it's a quarter of a teaspoon with water or ounces of water? Okay. Yeah.   Roy Barker  26:40 All right. And I got permission to belch.   Terry  26:42 Oh, my gosh, I was gonna say I don't think he has an issue. Sorry.   Roy Barker  26:51 Okay, thank you. Let's move on to Okay.   Dr. Linda  26:58 All right. Number four, we have been talking a little bit about this. But I think you've really, really have to train your mind. Because in the mornings, when there's times I normally get up at four in the morning, we like to meditate. And I remember this, I had gone to retreat, and I remember the doctors had, he's in my head saying Do you want to stay the same? Or do you want to change in the biggest time, there's two times throughout the 24 hour cycle, when your brain is more susceptible to changes subconsciously. And a lot of the things that we do on a conscious level, we can't change them on a conscious level because they're done via the subconscious level. So it's between it's right when you're waking up. And that four to five o'clock hour is when those brainwaves start to change, just like your beta brainwave, for example, is when you're awake, you're wide awake, and you're ready to go. But when you're sleeping, you're in what's called a Delta brainwave. So think about this, you're in you, you go through Delta, when you're asleep in a you're just waking up, it's called theta. And then when you're a little bit more active, it's alpha. And then when you're super active, it's beta. So you're going through that transition where your brainwaves are changing when you're just waking up. And also when you start winding down and going to bed. So that's the important time to really work on the that subconscious mind and with meditation, visualization, affirmations, speaking to yourself, recording your goals and actually listening to your goals in your own voice. super powerful.   Terry  28:55 I have heard that Yeah. Many things, but I haven't done it yet. So I don't like to lose myself in that circle. I got an excuse for everything. I hear a lot.   Dr. Linda  29:05 Yeah, do it. It's really powerful. And then, I mean, I go back and I have the recordings of podcasts that I do. like years ago before podcasting became so popular, just being on radio shows. And I'm listening to them. They just came up on my phone. I'm like, wow, who's this girl? She's smart. And I'm like, Oh my God.   Terry  29:29 That's too funny.   Dr. Linda  29:30 But just listening to your voice like no, Terry today's gonna be the best day ever today, you know, and then you're you're just you're really just speaking out to the universe what you want. Because everything we say we think has a vibrational energy has a frequency. The heart map Institute has done a study that our heart has like this big energy field. You know, and even just when you hug someone like you know, Heart to Heart instead of the side hug It's so powerful, you know. So I try to like, hug my kids and I just, you know, squeeze them. I'd rather have like a hug Heart to Heart instead of like a side hug. And it's just, you know, when you train your mind, you really can do anything as you were saying, it's like, oh, yeah, and I really, I really don't want to get up, you start finding excuses, of why you don't want to get up right?   Roy Barker  30:27 Now, so much. No, that's interesting, because, you know, I've tried meditation over the years, and just never had much success. But you know, what I think I've learned lately is that it's not going to be perfect every time. But we have to stick with it. Because you know, I have better days than not. But the other thing we added is doing it at night, right before bed for me, because it clears my head, have all these other thoughts I've got going on. But it really relaxes me and prepares me for sleep. It's interesting how that happens.   Dr. Linda  31:03 And there's so many different forms of meditation. I was at a retreat, and we were in meditation from, I want to say it was four in the morning till about eight in the morning. Wow. It went by so fast. However, yes, we were in the meditation for that long and it went by fast. And before I was just like, people were telling me that had attended the retreat. I'm like, there's no way they're like, it only felt like it was 20 minutes. And it did, it only felt like it was 20 minutes, because meditation really is just is just being aware. Well, and there's times where I'm like meditating. I'm closing my eyes, and I'm thinking about everything else I got to do. And then I just bring myself back to the present moment. And I'm like, No, no, no, no, no, just come back. And I just go, I just kind of, you know, look at my look at like, looking at something dark. And just breathe and focus on my breath. Yeah. And there's guided meditations. And you can start with the five minute meditation, just focusing on your breath, and just being aware of your breath.   Roy Barker  32:13 Yeah, that's kind of what I do that I tried to do 10 minutes, but try to really focus on that. Breathe in, in and feeling that go all the way down, not in holding it for a minute, but then actually, you know, feeling an exhale. The other thing too, is I'm a very shallow breather during the day. And so that's a good time to try to train myself to take those deep breaths. But it's hard. I have to admit, it's a challenge to keep re centered or keep in the moment, because I'm like, you, I'm thinking, Oh, when I get through with this, I need to do this and I need to do and then but it's okay. I think I've learned for me, it's okay. I just have to stay say, Okay, stop, you can think about that. When this meditation is through, you don't have to think about it right this moment. You just have to continually remind yourself and recenter   Dr. Linda  33:05 Yeah, and I think a lot of it too, goes back to just, you know, training your mind. Right, is really even the words that you're saying? Like I will, I would say so many times I can't meditate, or I hate meditating. And so those are, those are powerful affirmations in a negative way. Right? Everything we say, our body, our it's, our body encodes that. Yeah. And so we'll create situations in your life to make that true. And that's where the mindfulness and that's where training your mind. Like, I can do this. I can figure it out. There's a way if other people do have done it, I can do it. I'm not really sure how but I'm sure I can figure out a way. And then what happens you get some sort of YouTube video shows up a friend calls you get a text, something shows up a book falls off the shelf. Crazy things happen.   Terry  34:09 World runs by it's like over the hedge that movie, you know, squirrel squirrel, that's me, I can get distracted by anything.   Roy Barker  34:17 But I think that the the self talk too, is important. Because my dad used to have a saying that cat never could. And so you know, when we say I can't, it may be, you know, reframing that say how can I? Or let's figure out how we can not just I can't because   Terry  34:36 if you want to have already made up your mind,   Roy Barker  34:39 yeah, it's like whatever you tell you. When is it there's a saying about that, that you can be, you can be successful or you can be a failure. It's whatever you tell yourself. You'll make that right. You know, if you say I'm a failure, I'm a failure. Right? Yeah.   Dr. Linda  34:56 Absolutely. And as you were saying, if you say something like well I can't do that. You can just add yet. Yeah, you know, sentence or as you were saying, How do I reframe this? Or if I have questions, I have patients and people that I coach ask, you know, what would it take for me to blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah? And just throw that question out there? What would it take? And when you do that, something will show up. It's like Google, holding your brain in and it's like, oh, you know, why am I so dumb? It's like, Okay, well, your brain is gonna bring back memories of stupid things you did when you were a kid. And that's like, That's why, and why am I so awesome? Yeah, it's gonna bring you bring back situations of, well, you did this, this, this and that. So it's really, so much is really the mind training. And I think that's like a missing component. And that really should be the priority in anything that we do, whether it's business, whether it's relationships, whether it's we're trying to get healthier, lose weight, you've got to train the mind and is we're talking about my mind is, Hey, I'm an athlete. I'm not competing in the Olympics or anything, but I try to train like, I'm an athlete, so that I can show up as the best version of myself every single day. So we all need to speak to each other.   Terry  36:28 Right, that I started reading, what is it breaking the perhaps the habit of being yourself? Dr. Joe Dispenza. Oh, yes, we have heard. I mean, he has been his name has been thrown around an awful lot lately. And so   Dr. Linda  36:48 yeah, that's the seminar that I went to their slash retreat seminar that was meditation, neuroscience, and the energy in the room is just like, overwhelming me like, positive and just it's life changing. Oh, Ben week, just   Roy Barker  37:08 say is the visualization and talking to yourself that use that power for good, not evil? Because I was, I was just thinking, how could I make some a bowl of ice cream appear? No. Careful watching.   Terry  37:26 being silly. Alright, yeah. So okay, so that was the fourth one mind, train to mind.   Dr. Linda  37:36 The fifth one that thats really overlooked that your doctor probably will never tell you is very rarely unless you're a functional medicine doctor is that you know, food can heal your body.   Roy Barker  37:52 Yes,   Dr. Linda  37:52 a pill doesn't heal a you know, heal your body, it just turns up certain circuits. So you're not feeling things just like if you're in pain, it's a pain pill, but still doesn't fix the problem. And if you look at the top conditions that we're dealing with, it's really bankrupting our country, from cancer to heart disease to arthritic knees, depression, those are inflammatory conditions, diabetes, you know, die, obesity, those are all inflammatory conditions that are caused by the food we eat and its lifestyle. And so, whatever made our body sick, we can undo it because the beauty of it is we we created the problem unless you were born without let's just say without a spleen or with one kidney or without an arm. You know, though, those are other. That's those are far and few in between, compared to most people that have type two diabetes, rheumatoid arthritis, thyroid issues, heart disease, those are all lifestyle and even if you have a gene a genetic predisposition for those, it's so your lifestyle choices and how you live that led it to you. There's a sane and functional medicine, it's your genes load the load the gun, but it's lifestyle that pulls the trigger. Interesting. You can have the genetic predisposition for it, but you're the outcome of it doesn't have to be like your ancestors because you're choosing to do things differently and live differently. So food can heal your body.   Roy Barker  39:38 Yeah, we are we have learned that we've talked to you know a lot of people that that is something that we truly believe and, you know, there used to be a I guess the theory or thought that you couldn't reverse type two diabetes, but I'm here to tell you that you will have a say in my opinion. You can if if you eat Right, and you move right and you do all those things. Most people, I guess, let's say the people that's lifestyle has created it, you can turn your lifestyle around.   Dr. Linda  40:11 Absolutely, yeah. 100% I have seen that and even with heart disease and show many people on medication, and I said you can, food can heal your body. Absolutely. 100%. And it doesn't really benefit a doctor to tell you that. If they're just it's typically a five or seven minute office visit. You can't teach them in that time. And why are you eating that? You know, and sometimes it's deeper than that. There's there's emotional things. And that's why go back into Well, what's going on in the mind? What are you telling yourself? What conversations are you having with yourself? What conversations are you having with everyone else around you? Both all really, they all tie in, you know, together, all five of them. But food can heal and we're talking about food in its most natural state. And well,   Terry  41:09 thats the key right there. Because it's, you know, so much of our food has just been processed and additives and, and supplements as well. So you have to be careful with your supplements if you're taking supplements, but you should try to do as much with with the whole foods first before adding a supplement. Correct?   Dr. Linda  41:33 Absolutely in in with supplements, it's there to supplement, it's very difficult to get all the nutrients that you need, unless you spend the entire day just focusing on that because the food quality today is not the same as it was 50 years ago. Even not saying like McDonald's. They weren't as bad. You know, 30 years ago, 40 years ago. It's pretty bad now and you know, so many of the fast foods I mean, it's it's fast food, and I don't even know what a hamburger costs at McDonald's and how but I'm sure like they're making a huge profit because it's the the cheapest food that you can get,   Terry  42:22 right? It's probably you know that much real beef or whatever they want to call it. And then the rest is just junk, just junk that they've thrown in. Well,   Dr. Linda  42:34 nowadays, too. There's a science to food a lot of there, there's food scientists that there's a lot of chemicals in the food that will actually trigger parts of the brain so that you're not satisfied and you just want more. And there's nutrient sensors in the brain that tells you when you're eating good food, healthy food that you've had enough to eat, and that you don't need to eat anymore. You don't junk food and chemically processed food does not have it doesn't sensor, it doesn't trigger those nutrients sensors in the brain telling you stop eating, you've had a month, it doesn't. Whereas it's really hard to sit down and eat two pounds of steak. I can sit down and eat a pound of ribeye, but I can't sit. You know. I'm sure that after a pound of ribeye, I'm like, Okay, I'm good for a while on stuff. I'm just satisfied. Yet people can eat a whole pizza. And there's no there's hardly any nutrients in that pizza. And they're just like, okay, now I've had a whole pizza and they're more like bloated   Terry  43:42 And they want dessert   Dr. Linda  43:44 They feel uncomfortable. But they still can have dessert. Yeah, they'll still keep eating.   Roy Barker  43:50 So what about these? Speaking of the, you know, food can be medicine, you see a lot of these charts that they how the different foods easily fruits and vegetables, how they align with parts of our body. You know, we've always heard about like the carrots and your eyes side. Tomato, I think it's tomatoes and your heart. But there are some really good infographics out there that have that is is there some validity to that?   Dr. Linda  44:22 You know, that's a good question. We used to share that with people. Honestly, I think a lot of it is more just encouraging people to to eat more of the real food. It's like okay, if if like you say carrots are good for the eyes. Okay, what does that just mean? If I have a little sliver of carrot, I'm good to go. It's where we have to look at Well, how much of carrots right for your eyes, you know, what state and so forth. So, yeah, a lot of the vegetables and fruits there's a lot of vitamins in them and minerals. And how much do you have to eat of that too? Right? Well, there, there is some validity to that. But a lot of the studies don't really show Well, what's the quantity that you have to consume? Is that 100 grams, 200 grams, then we really are getting into the science of all that.   Terry  45:19 Well, then if you have, you know, like one of those, if you have something like type two diabetes, or thyroid issue, or hypothyroidism or hypertension, then you have to worry about, like, the fruit, the sugar and the fruits and which, which of those break it down even further to which of those fruits actually are going to be more beneficial to you?   Dr. Linda  45:45 Absolutely, absolutely. Yes, you, especially a person that's a diabetic, they'll say, Oh, yeah, I eat a lot of fruits and vegetables. And it's, it's like six cups of fruit a day, and maybe like their vegetables considered a carrot, or corn or potato. Like sorry, that's not a vegetable doesn't count like is your vegetable serving. And so really, everything is customized for each person to figure out, you know, what works for Terry, what works for Roy, you may be on two different eating templates. Like, my eating template is different than my husband. And it's funny, because he's like, Okay, what eating? What eating plan are you on? Now? What are you doing now, and I'm like, I'm always rotating, because it's like, the Four Seasons, right? It's like summer, a lot of people eat more vegetables, you lean out more winter, you put on the winter coat, because you're probably you know, eating more, you're eating just more probably snacking on things because you're inside more. When the summer you know, you're outdoors more. So I'm always changing my, my palate changes a lot. And so I rotate the foods that I eat as well. Sometimes I'll be carnivore, where I'm just eating meat. And there was a time where I was a vegetarian, there was time when I was vegan. And there were different times in my life, where I was just doing something different. And it just didn't work for me, it was okay, I was I when I'm like, Okay, I'm gonna go back and do plant based. And then 20 years later, I decided to plant base for just a short period of time. And I'm it just it did not agree with me. I was I felt horrible. My skin was horrible. I got bloated, and I'm like, there's no way I'm going to continue to do this. And for me, and for my body chemistry, it just it didn't agree with it. And we tend to forget that. I'm not sure if you're familiar with like lectin. And, you know, in plants there's, you have, plants can't hide, they can't run away from us. So they have their own little defense system. And if we eat them, it's like, hey, they have their internal defense system, like phytates. Whereas like an animal, you know, that's going to be our dinner, but they can run right into for us in euphoria to eat plants. We're still eating something that doesn't want to be eaten. So it's really looking at each once again, like when I work with patients, it's like, Okay, I need to know their history. What you do have kids, what's your ancestry? What medication are you on? What is your goal? To figure out what eating template works for them? And then we just tweak it as as we go. And just depends on what is the goal when you try to diminish some of the cardiovascular issues you have or you know, control blood sugar, it's just like you want to optimize your thyroid because even like, you mentioned some before Terry about with thyroid, sometimes women who have too many cruciferous vegetables, it can inhibit that whole fibroid on conversion. Right. So yeah, there's a lot to this.   Roy Barker  49:02 Yeah, and then so OK, I think the other important part that you've mentioned is it's okay to tweak, you know, we we can start down a path. And it may not be working exactly the way we need or want it to, but maybe it just takes a little tweak to, you know, get it just to that right spot. And that gets back to I'm sure. You know, you encourage people keep that keep an eating diary. So we know what you're putting in if you're testing your blood, you know, test your blood sugar's you stay on top of your blood pressure, and then you can see how you're eating affects all these things.   Dr. Linda  49:41 Absolutely.   Terry  49:43 And how, Okay, can we I know there's so much to talk about, but I do want to make sure upon this too. So five reasons that you're not losing weight. Oh.   Dr. Linda  49:56 All right. Well, let me run those really quickly. Yeah. Come on down, especially with women as we get older, but one is having low thyroid function. Remember thyroid is a low butterfly gland here that, that really you have thyroid receptor sites and every cell in your body and they are responsible for the basal metabolic rate. So how fast everything goes? Sure, if you have low thyroid, no matter if you're eating clean, you're exercising but you don't address your thyroid. And then you're going to continue to struggle with that. And I've seen that Peto people that go, keto, paleo, they do plant based, they do vegetarian. And I'm like, well, you're if you're, if you don't know your thyroid markers and women, the reason women start to have more thyroid issues as we get older is because our estrogen levels drop, right? We need estrogen for healthy thyroid function. And because of stress that'll interfere with that. So low thyroid would be number two low iron levels as well. I will see that with a lot of women who they don't want to eat, you know, animal products because they they've been told the the narrative is eating meat is bad for you eating meats gonna cause cancer, eating meats gonna raise your cholesterol So I often ask people my goal. How often are you eating like a steak or ribeye? Well, I don't eat red meat. I eat really healthy. I'm like, Well, whatmakes you think they're red meat is not healthy. You know? It's kind of like having you know, why is chicken healthy? And why is beef? not healthy? Why steak not? It's more looking at? Well, how was the animal raised? animal was raised on what steroids antibiotics? Does it make the chicken healthy? No!   Terry  51:46 Right? What kind of meat it is? process? Just foods.   Dr. Linda  51:51 Yep. So the low thyroid, the low iron levels, we see a lot of that you need to have healthy iron levels in order for your thyroid to work properly. And of course, we have all time, low iron levels, you're tired a lot of the time and if you're tired, you're not going to want to exercise. You get lazy, you get complacent, you know you're irritable. You're grumpy. So you just don't feel good.   Terry  52:13 What do you got the funny look in his eye like, No,   Roy Barker  52:17 no, no, no, no, I'm just saying. You know that that's the way that goes with, you know, with sleep that starts the downfall of, you know, grumpy not x not wanting to go exercise just leads to a lot of places. Yes,   Terry  52:31 I'm sorry.   Dr. Linda  52:32 Another one is even on we talked about and if you're not eating enough protein. So I know that I've gone through that even with patients. It's just like people do keto and keto is very high fat, kind of moderate protein. I like to do more of a higher protein, higher fat and then drop down their fat so that fat is just for the purpose so they can feel full.   Terry  52:57 Okay,   Dr. Linda  52:57 break your sugar cravings. And then number four would be stress. You know, stress can be physical stress, chemical, emotional stress, and like you were saying, Roy, I mean, one of the physical stressors is not eating, not sleeping enough not getting adequate sleep, right? Because a lot of healing fat burning occurs while you're sleeping. Yeah, your body's recuperate. Anytime that we're awake, your body's in a catabolic state mean it's, it's breaking down. Anytime we're resting, we're sleeping. We're in an anabolic state, meaning we're recovering. We're building muscle recuperating. So stress the physical, chemical, emotional chemicals, you know, everything that we're eating everything we're putting on her skin, everything in their environment, and emotional comes with our relationships. The most important relationship is the one that you're having with yourself. After that, that mindset and the positive self talk and creating a mind movie a life movie, a life script of what would you want your What was your What is your ideal life, like, and visualizing and seeing it and hear it every single day? It's like, man, I tell everyone, I said I have the best husband in the world. I said, because every morning I just I say that I'm like, I'm so grateful. I have the best husband in the world. So I tease them and I tell him I'm hypnotizing you every day. He is and he's an awesome husband, you know, and then the other one that we overlook and a lot of people overlook and you're hearing more and more of this now or gut infections. I don't know how much you you're learning about, you know, interviewing all these people, but gut infections are huge with parasites bacterial H. pylori, when you're not making enough hydrochloric acid to digest the food, she'll get infections are huge, and I really believe that that's one of the one test that everybody should do and kind of connecting this with COVID. You know, a lot of it has to do with your immune system. And because a lot of people ask me well about COVID, and the shedding and all this, and I'm like, you know what a virus is going to thrive in a weak environment. And it's always looking for a weak host. And guess what 60 80% of your immune system is in your gut. How many doctors are checking your gut for infections? Very few. And that's one thing that's so overlooked. And I think I would prefer running a GI map a stool test over on blood tests sometimes and probably would get better results with patients. Because when you have gut issues, you're going to address that with what diet?   Terry  54:17 That's great.  Right? That's right.   Roy Barker  55:43 Yeah, that's those are two things that I think we have learned or I'll speak for me, those are two things I have learned as we've done the show gut health, because like you said, was it 70 or 80% of our immune system starts there. And the other one is inflammation. It's like inflammation seems to be you know, the bane of all bad things that happened to our body. Start with the inflation.   Dr. Linda  56:11 Yeah. Your body says, Yeah, when your body's inflamed when you're inflamed. Guess what? You will end up with a leaky gut. And when you there's the gut brain connection as well. So when you have leaky gut, you have leaky brain. Oh,   Terry  56:25 yeah.   Dr. Linda  56:26 Huge connection with that. Yeah. So inflammation impacts the gut is well, right,   Roy Barker  56:32 right. Excuse me.   Terry  56:34 Yeah. Oh, my gosh, I remember we had a we we've had a few guests that have talked about leaky gut leaky brain. But recently, we had we had an is Delia neurologists. She's neurologist, she's dead. She's something to do with neurology. I can't think of exactly what her title is.   Dr. Linda  56:57 And even a lot of psychologists now are starting to work with their patients even address them. And psychiatrists, instead of giving them medications just like, hey, they're running more labs now. And even a person that's depressed can have low iron levels, and they're like you're depressed and the low iron levels or have low functioning thyroid, and they want to put them on some sort of medications, like, Okay, my low iron levels, and my low thyroid levels are also connected to my diet.   Roy Barker  57:26 Right? Yeah, exactly. Well, I know we're running way long. But we did want to get those last ones in there. And we certainly do appreciate that. Did you have something else, Terry?   Terry  57:38 No, no, that was great. I know, I can talk to you all night and get leaky brain. I'm like, oh, gosh, now I gotta go worry about I gotta take my omega 369 oil right after this. Working on that I'm working on not getting all timers or dementia. Working on all of that in my gut.   Roy Barker  57:58 Dr. Linda, we'll have to have you back on we could like I said, we could go on for another hour very easily. But yeah, we thank you for your time. What is a habit? Or a tool? What is something that you do or use every day in your life that you feel like adds a lot of value professional or personal?   Dr. Linda  58:18 gratitude? Excuse me, lets you know, excuse me?   Terry  58:36 Oh, my goodness.   Dr. Linda  58:39 I'm okay. Okay.   Terry  58:42 Gratitude isn't like good. I mean, that that is a really good one. I have to remind myself all the time with my angel on my devil on my shoulder saying gratitude, gratitude, gratitude. You have to if you don't if you're not grateful, then we'll have to look at the good things that are happening because everything else will pile on and it'll become a bad situation   Roy Barker  59:09 you know, even on our worst days, you know, we have to remember there's somebody that's got it much much worse than we do we have a sha you know, we have third world or first world problems, you know, we've got shelter, we've got food. But you know, we worry about the internet not working or the computer not being fast enough. So yeah, we really need to watch that because that just adds to needless stress and I'm in that person. So I'm speaking from personal experience there for sure.   Dr. Linda  59:41 so grateful that I still have my voice for some reason. I need water.   Terry  59:48 That's right, that just goes to show you you can never drink too much water right.   Roy Barker  59:55 Alright, so who do you like to work with? How can you help And then of course, how can they reach out and get a hold of you?   Dr. Linda  1:00:03 Well, I would say the people that are willing to take responsibility, so I'm losing my voice here, fitness. Or say people that are willing to take responsibility and are ready to make a change. Okay. Yeah. And most people that come to me have been to, oh, gosh, 7,7,8,9, sometimes even 10 doctors before, you know, they come and see me. And they're at their wit's end that see if I can get my voice back here. They're kind of at their wit's end of just, they don't know what to do anymore. Excuse me. And the best way to to get ahold of us is just go to our website, Dr. Linda Marquez.com   Roy Barker  1:00:57 Okay. All right. Great. Well, and we will include that in the show notes. Again, thank you so much for your time. It's been very educational and enlightening. Yeah, we appreciate that very   Terry  1:01:07 much.   Dr. Linda  1:01:07 Thank you both. And I appreciate what you're doing, and just how you're sharing the information and bringing on guests to educate and help other people and just contributing to the good of this world. So I want to acknowledge you both and thank you for that.   Roy Barker  1:01:23 You bet.   Terry  1:01:24 So glad to have had you on here and we'd love to have you back. You've bee a wealth of information   Roy Barker  1:01:31 well, we never talked, I wanted to also talk about energy. You talked a little bit about that. That's something we've learned a lot about as well. So next time we can do that.   Dr. Linda  1:01:39 Sounds good.   Roy Barker  1:01:40 Alright, that's gonna do it for another episode of Feeding fatty. Of course, I am Roy. I'm   Terry  1:01:44 I'm Terry   Roy Barker  1:01:45 You can find us at www.feedingfatty.com we're on all the major podcast platforms, iTunes, Stitcher, Google Spotify, for not a one that you listen to let me know I'd be glad to get it added to make it easier for you to listen. Also, we're on all the major social media platforms probably tend to hang out on Instagram a little more than the other. So reach out we'd love to interact with you over there. Also, a video of this interview will go up on our YouTube channel, go over there and check it out. Until next time, take care of yourself and take care of your health.   www.feedingfatty.com www.drlindamarquez.com  

Air Hug Community
73. Dare to Challenge Conventional Aging with Lisa King

Air Hug Community

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 4, 2022 35:53


"To challenge aging, an entire world view must be challenged." (Deepak Chopra) Because nothing holds more power over the body than beliefs of the mind. If you're teetering on how to decipher what you can and cannot control when it comes to midlife health and fitness, then this talk is going to profoundly affect your current world. This talk appeared originally on Instragam live. My dear friend and guest Lisa King and I talk candidly about our own realizations in our 6th decade and beyond, and how Deepak Chopras best selling book "Ageless Mind Timeless Body"  published in 1993 was truly ahead of its time. We touch on stress, being one with the universe, meditation, and even intermittent fasting. It goes way beyond having great genetics, exercising, and eating well. Check back next and every Tuesday for a new episode of the Air Hug Community podcast. Thank you and please consider leaving  a 5-star review on Apple, Stitcher, Google Spotify, and http://bit.ly/AirHug podcasts xoxoxoxox Follow Lisa on Instagram @thefulfilledpharmacist  Reach out to me on Instagram @judyarazoza

Feeding Fatty
Change Your Habits, Change Your Future. Create Your Best Life Now!

Feeding Fatty

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 28, 2021 56:33


Change Your Habits, Change Your Future. Create Your Best Life Now! Featuring Dr. Lauren Keir Simmons We need to listen to our bodies. For whatever reason, even when we have a feeling that is abnormal, most will tend to kick it down the road until it develops into something more serious or worse yet, beyond help. It doesn't hurt to do some research to verify what we are told and don't hesitate to get a 2nd opinion. About Dr. Lauren  Dr. Lauren is a Certified Health Coach who went on a 2 year wellness journey in 2015. During this health journey, I experienced the hormonal ups and downs of an autoimmune disease which took me from 219lbs to 118lbs. After taking my autoimmune disease (Hashimoto Thyroiditis) into remission (in 8 months), I knew I had the skills to assist YOU at solving problems, changing bad habits and living a healthier lifestyle. Lauren Keir Wellness was born.  www.laurenkeirwellness.com www.feedingfatty.com Full Transcript Below Change Your Habits, Change Your Future. Create Your Best Life Now! Featuring Dr. Lauren Weir Simmons Sun, 8/1 4:12PM • 56:14 SUMMARY KEYWORDS eat, people, migraine, day, happening, body, autoimmune disease, medication, individuals, doctors, remission, pinched nerve, sugar, laughing, olive oil, symptoms, reiki, hypertension, food, Dr. Lauren, Change Your Habits, Change Your Future, Create Your best life SPEAKERS Terry, Dr. Lauren, Roy Barker Roy Barker  00:06 Hello, and welcome to another episode of feeding fatty. This is Roy,   Terry  00:09 this is Terry.   Roy Barker  00:09 So we're the podcast chronicling our journey to wellness. And of course, you know, when we started this, it was mostly about our diet, not a diet, but mostly you know what we were eating, trying to get that under control. And then we've talked a little bit about exercise, you know, and we've also pushed a lot into mindset, because even though a lot of us know what to do, it's actually getting it done, and then getting it done, where it's sustainable into the future. You know, I have to admit, I'm very good at getting something started. But you know, things change a month or so and then, you know, we're off track. So anyway, we're just looking for that path to where we can, you know, find the healthy wellness way and be able to stay on it. So a lot of times we talk about, you know what we're going through on our journey, but we also have professionals in the industry and today, we have Dr. Lauren with us, Terry, I'm gonna let you introduce her.   Terry  01:06 Dr. Lauren Keir Simmons is a certified health coach who went on a two year wellness journey in 2015. During this journey, she experienced the hormonal ups and downs of an autoimmune disease, which took her from 219 pounds to 118 pounds. After taking her autoimmune disease, harsh hashimotos thyroid thyroiditis, that's a mouthful into remission. She did that in eight months. She knew that she had the skills to assist you at solving problems, changing bad habits and living a healthier lifestyle. Lauren Keir wellness was born. Dr. Lauren, thank you so much for joining us today. I am so excited to hear about your journey. I have heard about it, but everybody else needs to hear about it because it is something else. tell tell us how how did you know i know i just read that. But tell us in your own words, what happened to get you onto this journey here?   Dr. Lauren  02:08 Yes, I was actually driving down the highway. And I experienced what I know now is an intractable migraine. And the the migraine, it was like a bolt of lightning that hit the top of my head and it zigzag through my body. And then it stopped at the bottom of my feet. Wow. And that was essentially the beginning of my wellness journey. I had no idea what it was at the time when it was happening. And I was driving down the highway, I thought that I was having a stroke. That's how bad it was. I you know, immediately, you know, turned around and went back to the nearest emergency room to find out you know, discover what was going on. And so that's what I learned after a little bit the initial restart, that it was what was diagnosed as an intractable migraine. So that's essentially what it is and what it was in a nutshell. And it has continued. It is essentially continue.   Terry  03:16 Well I'm What's the difference? I mean, what's the difference between a and I've had migraines off and on for years. What's the diff? What's an intractable mind? What does that mean?   Dr. Lauren  03:24 So so it laid the it was labeled and neurologists labeled it as an intractable migraine because it never stops? Oh, wow. Yeah, it just never said never stopped. They kept going on and on and on. And what happened was that neurologist at that time, she attempted to, you know, prescribe medications. And what she discovered was, was that medications would not, were not able to stop the migraine that it was. It was innnate. So it was biological, and it was not anything that they could do to No, there was no medication, you know, there there are general medications that they give you for them. The hypertension medications, they try seizure medications, and so forth. And none of that will work for me. So she said to me, at the end of 90 days, you're going to have to go natural. She said none of this will work for you. You're going to have to go natural.   Roy Barker  04:27 Yeah, no, just the question. I think you answered a little was, you know, was it you said it was biological, not like life circumstance. So what what is the trigger? Is it just something that was born genetically or was there something else that triggers that?   Dr. Lauren  04:45 Essentially, she did not know. And so what would what she meant by where I had was I had to go natural was I had to figure out like a natural solution. Whether it was How can I put it, whether it was a lack of nutrients in my body, whether it was food allergies that was causing it, you know, whether it was something environmental, possibly that was causing it. And you know, and I would have had to do the research, which I essentially did to learn, you know, what was happening. So there was several things that was that were going on at that time with my body. At that time, I had not yet been diagnosed with hashimotos thyroiditis. And so that was one thing that I learned. And then I had to get to, it went on to I had to get to the root cause of what was happening. You know, what, what brought on the hashimotos thyroiditis, because there is a root cause there's several root causes to Hashimoto thyroiditis, and most people never get to the bottom of their autoimmune disease, they just go ahead and take the prescription medication and the autoimmune disease never goes into remission. It just stays there. You're basically medicating it is what you're doing.   Terry  06:07 So putting a bandaid on,   Dr. Lauren  06:09 you're putting a bandaid on it. And so it was there was several things that were going on. At that time, I was perimenopausal, I had an autoimmune disease. And then I had the migraine. And so it was like what are we going to address first with the lesser of the evils? Yeah.   Terry  06:26 So what did you Where did you start? I mean, you have to get a hold of those migraines as much as you can. So yeah, the least function.   Dr. Lauren  06:36 So it's interesting, because I'm actually able to function with them, which is a bad, it's not a good thing at all. I learned to function with them. And I've had people to tell me, I don't know how you do it, because they bring me to my knees. Well, it's only a few of them that I've had that have actually like brought me to my knees where they makes me sort of kind of make me go blind, because you know that migraines will get behind one eye that I can I can literally function with them until it gets to that point. And then that's when I kind of you know, I kind of slow down. But I have, you know, since then began addressing the migraines, because you know, everything else is in check.   Terry  07:25 Right?   Roy Barker  07:27 So how have you found anything that has helped or anything that maybe you've cut out that has lessened either the intensity or the frequency of them.   Dr. Lauren  07:37 So the one thing, the one thing that I had to do was, I had to get through menopause, that was one. The second, the first thing was was that I brought the the autoimmune disease and that into remission, had to get through menopause, because that's what you know, they have hormonal triggers. And then the last thing was, you know, to try to figure out if it was something that was physical that was going on. And what I discovered, as it progressed, was that every time I would have, I would always get MRIs of my right on my right side of my brain, I would always get the right side of my brain scan, and they will find nothing, they like you're perfectly fine, you have nothing going on. I said, there's a problem, because every time I would get a migraine, they would see me doing this. My doctors would always see me doing this. And I was like what is wrong with your neck? And I'm like, I don't know, it just makes my you know, psychologically, it makes my head feel bad. And then one day I said, I said, Let me get my neck scan. And that's when we found out what was happening. So it was cervical radiculopathy a pinched nerve. Oh, wow. It was it was a pinched nerve. And so I began getting treated for that for a pinched nerve bestes that, you know, essentially what it is. So of course, you know, with a pinched nerve, you have to begin manipulating and this is me talking, manipulating the spine so that you can correct it and it can stop   Roy Barker  09:15 pressure on it, oh,   Dr. Lauren  09:17 pressure on it because it can cause it so it's it's behaving the same way that the sciatic nerve does. You know, when you have that pain in your lower back. It behaves the same way. And so, you know, for me if I sleep wrong or something like that, Oh, there goes a migraine and still feel natural, still have to go natural. So they had tricks and so on and so forth. You know, that you want to do to you know, to kind of manage them. Well, lots and lots of supplements. Yeah. Yeah, and a lot of people don't know that because You know, when you became begin medicating yourself, and and the medical profession, they're just throwing stuff at you like, okay, Here, take this, take this, take this, I'm not taking any of that stuff, because what happens is, you go back to, you begin medicating yourself with the prescription medications, and it will throw your autoimmune disease off. Okay? Yeah, and people don't pay attention to that stuff. And I'm like, I'm going to protect this first, because it's gonna take me out, if I let if I let it go out of remission is going to take me completely out. Yeah. So you know, certain things is, and there are many things that you can do, you can meditate. You can do Reiki, you know, you can do your Epsom salt. So, you know, the magnesium, magnesium relaxes your body more than anything, that you know that magnesium is very good, you know, for your body. And so it is extremely, you know, is extremely helpful. And it's extremely relaxing, you can get massages, massages can help to manage that. So, hat you have to I can't get my right now because, you know, I'm, you know, I'm being treated for, you know, being treated with a physical therapist, but you have to get them I get, I get the, you know, massages, just to control the, you know, for the environment and so forth. Because of, you know, all of the pollen and so forth, it clogs up my lungs, and I can't breathe. In the palate around here. It's very heavy. It's very heavy. So I get that so they can push, you know, my lungs out. And I can breathe. Right? Well, yeah,   Terry  11:52 well, and we also a couple of months ago, I guess it's been about two, maybe three months ago, we went to our first Reiki sessions. Like not just stayed away from it, because you know, the whole energy thing is just kind of, it's kind of those one of those strange things that you don't know too much about. So it's one you know, you have to research it so you can understand it, but it's so true. Everything is energy, I get it. It made made me feel great after my first one. And the second one, I was just like I was, I think I was trying to feel too much. So I didn't respond like I needed to, but Roy Roy had a really good experience, I think,   Roy Barker  12:32 yeah, it was interesting. And not that I'm a non believer, I just didn't know anything about it. And you really have to go into it. Just, you know, personally, I would say go into it, open minded and relaxed and you just have to see where it takes you. And it was very interesting. We actually taped an interview with the young lady I don't think it's aired yet that that we did it with but the heat that she pulled out of my body was incredible. I mean, just like she was over my forehead. And it felt like a hot coal was just on my head, forehead But anyway, and then it was also the other thing that was strange was kind of like got between that sleep and consciousness place. And I just had some you know, some things that came to me. I had three words patience, strength and wisdom which is like you know, I don't know where that came from   Terry  13:28 but must be met you   Roy Barker  13:33 you know it just it made my chest well up. Anyway, it was very interesting how that how that all went took place, but   Terry  13:41 it was very cool. Yeah,   Roy Barker  13:43 I was gonna ask about the the autoimmune. So how, how are you treating or how are you dealing with that? autoimmune. autoimmune disease? Yes.   Dr. Lauren  13:54 Is there a remission? Is I just go about it? Yeah, I just go about it. Normally, I actually pulled mine into remission with food. And you know with supplements and so forth. Yeah, it worked for me. Let me just say this, it worked for me. So that was what that was what I required.   Terry  14:12 So what kinds of things did you what kinds of things affect you like do you can you have dairy? Can you have eggs, can you have gluten? Can you have any of that or did you like start just stripped down and then you took everything out and then added it in as you went?   Dr. Lauren  14:29 So I am gluten intolerant? But I do not eat gluten non gluten thing. I don't eat things that are labeled as non gluten. Ah, that don't have gluten. I don't eat things that don't have gluten in them. I eat things that are natural that are totally natural. Dairy. Most people that have autoimmune diseases cannot cannot ingest dairy at all. It's just not it's just not it doesn't work for you. Um, So for me, I can't do I cannot do dairy at all. It doesn't work for me.   Roy Barker  15:06 What were some of the symptoms of the autoimmune because I've never, I've never dealt with it with humans. I actually had an animal that had it in the best way the doctor put it on me was that his body was actually turning against itself. Is that kind of thing? Okay.   Dr. Lauren  15:25 Yeah, so yeah, but your body? Yes. Yep. Yeah, your body actually does. It attacks its own self is what it does. And it does not. So you are like a foreign body to your body. So is is how can I put it? It's like it's invading it like Space Invaders or something like that.   Terry  15:45 Exactly what I was thinking,   Dr. Lauren  15:47 yeah, like Space Invaders. And so you kind of attacking yourself. So you have to retrain your body to say, okay, no, this is what I belong here. And this is what I should be eating. So what happens is another way that I can put it is, is that the foods that you are eating like like my, my, I call it my native foods in New Orleans, my body is tapped out. It will not allow me to ingest anything that I used to eat as a child. So if I want to eat crawfish, I cannot eat crawfish. If I want to eat gumbo, jambalaya, shrimp creole, any of those things at all, because my body is tapped out, it's exhausted.   Roy Barker  16:32 Now, what were the symptoms that you had to, you know, get you to seek out medical help with that.   Dr. Lauren  16:39 I was I had adrenal fatigue. I, I was I had brain fog. I had, um, I had I was hoarse. So um, you know, my thyroid was was a little inflamed, it was a little inflamed. I couldn't I had a lot of it was the headache. I had, that my, a lot of the symptoms that I were having was crossing over along with the along with a pinched nerve. So I'm trying to isolate those. It was I had the initial inflammation. It was initial inflammation. And then I started losing weight like crazy afterwards. But it was initial Yeah, the amp, the inflammation that went to 219 pounds. I had never been that that heavy before. So I was always hovering like around, like maybe I'll say 150 pounds, maybe, which is like a size eight, then I I've expanded to like a balloon to 219 pounds, which was the size 16. And then when I went down to what should have been my normal weight all along. I was 118.   Terry  18:09 Wow, how long did how long of a time period did it take for you to inflate, inflate, deflate the original expansion and then the deflation was? Was it eight year? No, not eight.   Dr. Lauren  18:30 It came on. So my way came on over a period of maybe about five years, mate, maybe about five minutes. Alex outstretching and say 10 years, it was maybe like about maybe about five years, five to seven years. And I'm going Something is wrong, something that you know, something is wrong, something is wrong. Like I've never been this large. And you know, you know how people will not be honest with you. Oh, you're fine. Yeah, yeah, something's wrong. Something is wrong. So I kept investigating and investigating. And then when the migraine hit, I said, up, yes, something's really wrong. So that's when I started, you know, going to all of the specialists and so forth. So I started gathering my documentation. And you know, each person would give me their diagnosis of what they felt was going on. And so they felt this was going on, and I would get a pill for this. And then this was going on, and I would get a pill with this. And then by the time I was done, I think I had like 20 or 21 different medications that the doctors had given me that I did not take. I said this is insanity, but they didn't you know, they only know traditional medicine only knows what they know they treat stuff by symptom, right. And so they were going by what I was telling them I would never know You know, I would never bad mouth any of the doctors for what, you know, for what I went through, because that's what they're trying to do. They're trying to give you medication for, you know, your symptoms and so forth. And they don't know the, you know, holistic side of medicine.   Terry  20:19 Well, and how did you start looking into the holistic side of it?   Dr. Lauren  20:23 So I, I reached back at to some information that I had gotten 10 years prior to my, my incident. And so I started doing a little research because I'm a little, I'm a little flu. You know, I'm a little, I'm a little researcher, by nature, because I have a background in psychology. So I started doing a little research. And I said, something is not right with this. So I started going, you know what, let me lay off of the sugar. So that's the first thing that I did when I extracted all of the sugar out of my diet. And it was it was a lot of it, which you think is it actually does not have sugar in it actually has sugar in it. I said, Why in the world? are we adding sugar to potato chip?   Terry  21:20 addiction? Everything's cocaine.   Dr. Lauren  21:24 Oh, yeah. So everything, you know, not that I was a potato chip eater. But as I was doing my research, I was like, This is pure insanity. I began getting, you know, extracting the sugar out of my system. So I mean, I went cold turkey. The first 72 hours of me going cold turkey. I have withdrawal like a crackhead. And it was it was insane. I was I was like this, I was like, and I said, I'm having a panic attack. And my mother says, I know you all go lay down.   Terry  22:02 Lay down.   Dr. Lauren  22:03 Yeah. She says, I know you wash. She said go lay down. And this is literally how I was talking. And she says no, go lay down. She was like, I can't, I can't because there was really nothing that she could do. I went cold turkey withdraw. And then after that, I was fine. extracted the sugar. And then I began to do a little more research. I went to probably about seven or eight. It may have been more specialists than that. Anything would have ologists. On the back of it. I was on the back of their title. I went to it at everything. I had gone to a I had gotten a colonoscopy and end up endoscopy. I went to an allergist, I went to a cardiologist. I went to a it was insane. I had I probably I fired two cardiologists. I actually fired no one went to another one. Because the first cardiologist I went to she was on hypertension medication. I said, If she's on hypertension medication, she can't help me. She cannot help me because I'm not trying to go on on hypertension medication. Because I said I had hypertension. I said No, I don't. Well, yes,   Terry  23:20 I mean, your body knows best.   Roy Barker  23:23 And that's why I think we have to be sure we listen to ourselves. Because we and I'm not speaking for you, I'll speak for me, but you know, we tend to I had the feeling today and then we'll be okay tomorrow and we kind of kick this can down the road until it can, you know, even turn into a lot worse things.   Dr. Lauren  23:41 Right? I was fortunate I always tell people, listen to your body, you know, go to the doctors, you know, hear what they have to say, listen to them. But I knew for myself, I knew I did not have hypertension, what I did have was because they were following it was my heart would start racing. That is a characteristic of hashimotos. When your heart just starts racing, I would be I would be in the bed and I would be getting waking up at five o'clock in the morning. just waking up and my heart would start racing.   Roy Barker  24:21 Wow. So So you've taken all this information that you've kind of gathered upon yourself and then now you're starting to help others.   Terry  24:30 Yeah.   Dr. Lauren  24:32 Yes, as best I can. Um, I know, I know what I know. And a lot of I've been able to help a lot of people, you know, as it relates to a few lifestyle diseases because generally what I focus on, you know, I can, you know, generally help individuals with, you know, hypertension, you know, kind of extracting those inflammatory foods that they have in their system, you know, working with the doctors, I do not take any Want off of medication, I do not put it put anyone on medication, the medical doctors do that. But I can't work alongside of, you know, the medical doctors to help them to tweak their patient's diet, to, you know, kind of reduce that inflammation, and, you know, kind of work with them to help to make them you know, as well, you know, as you know, as I can't, but I have definitely helped individuals, you know, with diabetes, pre diabetes, and so forth, to get their numbers back in check. Because you don't want that inflammation in your body, the longer you have that inflammation in your body, the more damage that it can do. And so, you know, the longer you want a lot of that medication, the more damage that it does to your body. And so that's why I was fighting so much that I did not want to take the medication they were giving me, you know, I do have, I was diagnosed with asthma as a child, and I've never taken an ounce of medication, they gave me inhalers and all this, I said, I'm not taking that stuff, that stuff will raise your blood pressure. And, and then then when your blood pressure's high, they're going to give you what hypertension medication. Now, so for myself, and I always say this is for myself, always make sure that you, you know, check with your physicians and so forth, because they know your medical history far better than I do. And so you definitely want to check in with them to, you know, to see, you know, what your numbers are, get your blood work, get your annual checkup, and so forth. And then, you know, make sure that you're living a healthy life.   Roy Barker  26:47 Yeah, I think that's another good point is that there's, you know, and we're not medical doctors, and we always specify, they'll see a doctor take their advice. But you know, one thing I think we've learned is that, well, it first off inflammation, you know, as we as more research has come out, it's like, it's kind of the root of most of the evil in our bodies. But a lot of this can be influenced by our diet. And like you said, we don't know what, well, we know, there are a lot of things you would think doesn't have sugar, but, you know, we don't eat a lot of sugar. And not long ago, we ordered from a little Italian restaurant. Oh my gosh, I'm telling you that red sauce, it was sugar Laden. I mean, it was almost like eating a candy bar. So anyway, you know, people do that stuff, because it makes it taste better makes the kids eat it. But sometimes it can be that addictive factor. And going back to your withdrawals, I found the same thing coming off of carbohydrates. When my doctor first diagnosed me with type two diabetes, he said, You know, I want you to cut your carbs back. And so that was on a Thursday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday night, I started like, right above my eyes, it felt like my head was gonna blow off. And I carried that with me through Sunday. And to be honest, I thought I was dying or have, like you said, having some kind of a stroke. And so I went to, you know, the CVS a little drugstore and had an auto machine, my blood pressure was escalated. So it scared me I call my doctor the next day. And he's like, we'll come in, he took my blood pressure and it was normal. He said, Well, first off, those machines aren't that great. But he said secondly, he said you're just having withdrawals from carbohydrate. Pisa is like a drug and you will have to come off of that.   Terry  28:41 Yeah, surely there are like rehab places where you can go and get, you know, have, you know, get withdrawn from sugar and carbs and things that if there aren't, there needs to be because it's a hard, you know, three days for sure, if not a little bit longer, but then you have to learn what you need to be putting into your body. So you don't have those cravings in the future and make sure that you're addressing whichever issue it is that you have, whether it's the hashimotos or or type two diabetes or whatever, right.   Dr. Lauren  29:19 And that's what I teach people. That's what I teach people how to do when they the first 72 hours of the worst when you withdrawing off of sugar. They it's the worst and so you just have to kind of take it for me. I wanted to get rid of the migraines and so I knew that I had to tolerate it. I'm like it's gonna stop eventually. And it did. But what people do is when they relapse so when people are on their own a diet as they like to call it instead of a lifestyle, lifestyle change the first 72 hours when they stop eating sugar. All they think you know, okay, so So what can I eat? Drink water? No, no, what can I eat, drink water. Because you're dehydrated is what's happening. And so they don't even think about that. Know what can I eat? Like, I can't eat this or fill in the blank with this and no drink water just drink water. Yeah, people were so much negative. So we're born with addictions. Because when you think about think about this, when you're born with it, what is the first thing that people that that moms are giving their babies? No.   Terry  30:26 Milk.   Dr. Lauren  30:28 What is milk having it? Sugar, sugar, sugar, breastfed even if the babies are breastfed, whatever it is that you've ingested. Guess what they're ingesting? Oh, yeah. So they're getting it straight from so we come in, we come into the world with that sugar addiction, and so we're predisposed to it. So unless, unless the mom's body is clean. And the mom has detox before she had the baby. Guess what's happening? The cycle is happening. So if mom has asthma guess what the baby's gonna have will have asthma as well. Oh, yeah. So people are wondering why these little ones are born or coming out with this asmin. So for Guess what?   Terry  31:20 That makes so much sense. Oh, my gosh. It's so true. Okay, so what would you tell? So like we're dealing with? So I have, at one point they, I was told that I had hashimotos. But then they came came back and said no, no, you have hypothyroidism. But hashimotos. And hypothyroidism? They're two separate issues, right? I mean, the hashimotos is auto immune, and then the thyroid. The hyperthyroidism? Is the gland itself. The disease? Yes. So I did differently.   Dr. Lauren  32:02 So what Yeah, so what probably happened was, is that it's hot hashimotos can actually turn into hypothyroidism if you don't catch it in time. So it's the it's the progression of it. Ah,   Terry  32:16 okay.   Dr. Lauren  32:16 It's the progression in this the way that the numbers look, that's the way that's the way that it was explained to me. And so you can have normal, if you have normal TSH levels like I do. They don't, they don't really test you for the hashimotos or the high hypothyroidism, if you have normal TSH level, what has to happen is you have to continue to you have to do the second layer of tests, which the doctors don't like to do. So you're looking at the, you know, the T three, t four, you're looking at all of those numbers. And that is how you determine what the what the what the hashimotos is. So, yeah, you can always, you know, get a second opinion, you know, from another doctor and so forth. But what they do even with the Hashimoto, they want to put you on the, you know, on the on the medication. Yeah, I was I, that wasn't my case. I was fortunate, I always tell people that that wasn't my case. And so I always guard, I always guard my food with my life and pay attention to what it is that I'm eating, so I don't eat out.   Terry  33:32 You don't eat out? I don't eat out at all. We might withdraw with that, too. We're gonna withdraw from doing that. Yeah. But   Roy Barker  33:44 yeah, but really, you know, in order to know what's in this stuff, you really just have to because it's not that people do it maliciously. They do it to make the taste better, where people come in, and things like that. But we just never know what those ingredients are.   Dr. Lauren  34:00 I do know what's in it. And that's why I don't eat out. Yeah, yeah. And I don't eat out and I tell people this, you don't eat anything? No, I know. restaurants, the food industry is not in it to they're not in it for health. They're in it to make money. I get that. I get that. And so and so I have to eat at home because most oftentimes if you ask the chef's what's in the food, and they don't even know. They don't even know I'll give you a perfect example. I used to enjoy eating Ed said restaurant, I won't give the name. I used to enjoy eating at a certain restaurant. And I said what type of oil Do you use on your lamb chops? And they said, Oh, we use olive oil. That's what the chef said. And I said, No, it's something else that is in that I said because I can taste it. I can taste it. It tastes like grease. So I asked the manager Because what I do know is, is that olive oil burn at that high on that high heat, there are only two oils that you can use at high heat. And almond oil is one of them. Almond Oil is too expensive for them to cook with. Olive oil is too It does not it burns too fast, right? So I asked the manager, I said, What is it? What type of oil is that? He said, Oh, that's olive oil. And it's mixed with canola oil. I said I knew it. I know I was very inflammatory for your system. So that is generally if they say they cook with olive oil is olive oil mixed with vegetable oil, or whatever it is that they're using so that they can cook at high heat on those grills.   Roy Barker  35:47 And I'm sure the cost factor to they can put a little drip of olive oil in there and tell you that we're cooking with olive oil. But the ratios, the ratios probably more skewed to the canola oil.   Dr. Lauren  36:01 Oh, yeah, of course. Of course it is. And I didn't ask that. I get it. I said I get it. I said thank you for sharing that with me. I never ate at the restaurant again.   Roy Barker  36:11 The other thing they kind of trained us up on too is eating. So such large volumes of weight for days have become crazy. And that's something that you know we have trouble with is, you know, Terry's a great cook. And so even even as we eat at home, I like you know, I want that second helping, where if I would just give myself a few minutes round will eventually be full. And you know, the other day, I don't know, I was kind of snacking we and we hadn't eaten too much. And I just said, Oh, I'm I'm hungry for some popcorn or something like that. And I said I want some popcorn. And she's like, aren't you not full? I said, and I thought for a minute. I say yeah, I really am full. But I felt that like ran through my chest. I just kind of had this sinking feeling you know? And it was it was probably dehydration, it could it was probably being a little bit tired. Because it was the end of the day. Yeah, there's all these other feelings that I've begun to realize that you know, that hunger or the desire to eat. I'm not gonna say hunger because it's usually not hunger, it's a desire to eat comes from a lot of other places than being hungry.   Terry  37:20 Yeah, and I'm always trying to you know, I'm always I am not a good cook. He's very sweet to say that, but he's just so happy that a bay is taking care of him. Anybody and I am really not that great of a good. But I my goal is to make sure that he doesn't get snacky and, you know, that's a hard because, you know, like he said, it was just really right, you know, within an hour after we ate and I was like, Are you full? Are you still cool? No. And the the fact that he realized, you know, that's just his pole in his chest. And that's kind of what his deal his schpeel is, before he goes to bed. He's got to go through this. Maybe if he can just grab some water or you know something, do something else and then go to bed. Just go to bed.   Dr. Lauren  38:14 That's hard. Cuz you cuz you'd like to snack? Oh my gosh, hard.   Roy Barker  38:21 Popcorn, you know, saucy stuff. And then I don't know, somewhere along the way, I develop a sweet tooth. And so now it's even doubly because like, I need a little bit of sweet and then a little salt. After that,   Terry  38:33 probably that's probably me. But I am the grocery shopper. So I don't have to bring that stuff home. But I'm feeling you know, usually when I go I'm hungry. So I want to go and you know, Oh, those look great. Well, I'm going to get them nuts. But I'm not going to get the wrong nuts. But then I'm going to Oh, there's some cookies, I'm going to grill just a little bit.   Dr. Lauren  38:55 hard. I tell you, it doesn't end when you when you're eating a healthy lifestyle like I do. It doesn't And trust me, the cravings don't in, you just have to you know, you just have to take it baby steps. Yeah, I tell people baby steps with that. Because it's traumatic for you to have to just stop it like all at once. It really is traumatic. So you just have to take baby steps. You have to be kind to yourself, as well. You know, if you fall off the wagon, or you kind of partially on a wagon, you know, just get back on it.   Roy Barker  39:32 That's all I usually fall off and then get ran over by the wagon. But yeah, I mean, it's a lot. It's a it's an adult thing. I don't remember it as a child so much but you know, it's an adult habit that I've done for years. And you know what, the other thing I've learned is it's usually because of getting sleepy. So at night if I got something I want to do in the And I was like, well have something quick to eat instead of just listening to my body and just go into bed, drinking that glass of water and just go into bed. It's it's difficult. But like you said, we have to be kind and not be like, Oh, well, I fell off. So I'm just going to continue on this bad path, because we never get it fixed when we do that.   Dr. Lauren  40:20 Yeah, yeah, don't beat yourself. Yeah, tell people don't beat yourself up. It won't happen overnight, everyone has to do it. You know, you have your own path. Right? You know, is your body you have your own path, and you have to do it in your own way. You just have the knowledge if you have the knowledge, then you know what it is that you can do. Right, you know? And so that's essentially what it is. You just have a few things that you want to work out at a time just a few things that net Arielle take everything all at once like I did I tell people do not follow my lead. Trust me when I'm telling you.   Terry  40:59 Yeah, the big picture is just so hard. If you it's easier. I say that it's easier if you chip away. That's what helps me better. But do I do it all the time? And everything? I do? No, but I should.   Roy Barker  41:13 Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I think that sets us up for failure. Because you know, and I'm this guy, I'm always telling off for myself. But, you know, you wake up one day fed up, and it's like, okay, no more sugar, no more cars, I'm going to the gym. You know, I'm going to go crazy. And like, you got so much commotion in your life that you've just developed, that, it's no wonder that we, you know, have these temporary setbacks. And so, you know, trying to take one thing, and then also, you know, maybe doing things gradual, if you if you have the luxury of the time, you know, sometimes people get to a position that they have to make drastic changes immediately. But if you can, you know, just yeah, just start cutting back a little here a little there until you get to the point where you really want to be Yeah,   Terry  42:03 exactly. Well, you're right. I was I'm sorry, go ahead.   Dr. Lauren  42:08 You're right. That's what that's why a lot of people do fall off the wagon. And they're like, Oh, well, you know, and then you have the other individuals that are go, okay, I've eaten Well, all week. What cheat meal Am I gonna have this weekend? Why   Terry  42:24 the weekend, we're celebrating,   Roy Barker  42:26 saying, I can't do that. Because if I have one taste of this, whatever the cheat is, I want it more and more. So you know, some people can handle that. But I just have to say I'm not one I have to go to the extreme of just not having it. You know, cuz like those little I always say the cat, I don't know, the company. Somebody came out with these little 100 calorie little ice cream sandwiches a few years ago. Oh, yeah. I love those things. But you know, I eat four or five of them at, you know, at a setting down. So it really wasn't doing me any good. You know?   Terry  43:06 You had more so you were full. I   Roy Barker  43:08 didn't need anymore. I'd have been better eating the old original big ones. I probably only had 250 calories. Like, I just get a little taste for it. And then you know, it's just uncontrollable. I love it. Yeah.   Terry  43:22 Okay. Dr. Lauren, I wanted to let's, let's kind of Reel back I know, we're talking about all over the place. But so you're a certified Health Coach, what kind of programs do you offer on your website? And you have a new one that I want you to talk about as well?   Dr. Lauren  43:37 Yes, I have it. So it's called the metamorphosis health coaching program. And my signature program is the bee fly the top. So eventually, initially, I did a 21 day just to get people started. But what I discovered was, because I'm so adamant about it, I could do it. But other people like this is over whelming so what I did was I reeled it back in, and I wrote I'm rolling it back out on September the sixth. And it is going to be a self paced program is six modules. And it's going to be a self paced program. So you go at your own pace, and you can, you know, move it along, or you know, kind of stopping, you know, as you need to and then you know, you can kind of help yourself as you go along. And then you get me to answer your questions in our own little group on Facebook. So I get to you can come in there and ask as many questions as you can, as much as your heart desires. To talk about that you also get a you also get a health consultation, so that you can learn about out what it is that you know, you can eat, you know, we look at all of your habits your eating, past present, and what you're going to be eating in the future, because you're going to do a lifestyle change. And you know, we just kind of go from there.   Roy Barker  45:19 And I think I'll put this more as a question. But you know, for me, I find that sleep, I have come to realize sleep is pretty much my trigger for all my downfalls. Because here's how the pattern goes, stay up late, don't get enough sleep, and then get up in the morning need extra fuel food to get moving, but then you're too tired to get out and move in. I know that when we talk about weight loss, you know, it's more 80% diet. But for me, you know, I feel like I need to move every day and I don't I walk from you know, the bedroom to the office and sit down and stay here pretty much where I need that movement. But the other thing is, when I'm out moving, I'm not eating. So you know, it kind of works twice, double for me as it gets me moving. It's good for the rest of my body. But also, it's an opportunity not to be in front of food.   Dr. Lauren  46:19 Yeah, I give. So I have a couple of people who I coach who they work from home. And when they're not working from home, they travel. And I said, so this is what I need you to do. I need you to set an alarm at lunchtime, get up at lunchtime and go walk for half an hour. And then then you know, of course it was the excuses that came. Okay. So this is what I need you to do. If you need to take a phone call, if you are on a conference call, do it on your cell phone and go walk while you are on that conference call. Because a half an hour a day will be so much more helpful for you to do that walk in even if you if you need to be in the house and you have stamps in your house, do the steps. Yeah, the steps up and down. Even if it's just for 10 minutes, do those steps so you can get those get the walking in to get your body moving. Yeah. You know, so you have to kind of set that time aside in order to do that.   Roy Barker  47:21 Yeah. And it's easy, because I can't do all of mine that way. But the ones I can make the announcement. I'm gonna be breathing hard. I'm not being chased. I'm not dying. So don't worry, it's just me walking,   Terry  47:34 because I hurry up with your meeting so I can get on with it.   Roy Barker  47:37 But you know, the other thing we've talked a little bit about is I, my my big name, fitness watch. Kind of pooped out on me. And so I started using a different one the Fitbit again. And I really like it because it the other one may have had it, I just didn't use it. But this one has a every hour it wants me to get 250 steps in. So I get a little prompt like, Hey, you got this many. And I do what you said, if I can't get out, I will just get up and walk around the house. I can still get it in. But the awesome thing is that at the end of the day, I've got about 2500 steps, you know, to kind of get started, I'd like to get more than that. But it's a great start with just a little bit of effort throughout the entire day. Right now, you know, I'm telling you, I had to I was back out in the field this week for one day. And we were doing some field visits. And I was with two colleagues that just wore me out we had like, you know, 5500 steps through this day and I came home and was just   Terry  48:41 it was zero doubt. Yeah,   Roy Barker  48:42 after you know, sitting at home in a chair for so long.   Dr. Lauren  48:46 Yeah. I tell you something else that you can try. If that wears you out, you know yoga will give you cardio as well. Yeah. If you get up in the morning and do that. Do that breathing and so forth. Yoga, I love yoga. If you if you tell me something about running or walking or something like that. Yeah, I'm not doing it. Yeah. Yeah, I'm not doing it. But yoga, I will do 90 minutes of yoga. A day. I will start out with it in the morning and I will do it in the evening. And that is that is equivalent to the walking that you need to do. And it will wear you completely out.   Roy Barker  49:32 Yeah. Yeah, you know, that's a great thing about our day and time is you know, there's the negatives of the food and the drive throughs and all of that but the positive we have so many tools at our disposal, that if we will use them that they will help because you know like the watches it also it makes me input my water so I can keep up because again, that's another bad habit is I can go through to three days and not ever drink any water. Drink Coffee. Yeah, so I can put my water in. But we can also do the yoga on the computer, we've got a DVD where we could do it at home, you don't even have to get out of your pajamas to do it. So, you know, we got so many great things to take advantage of, I think we just have to make up our mind and just try to have that discipline to do it.   Terry  50:21 I think we even had a guest who said that she does. She does it in bed. Like when she first wakes up. I mean, there's just really not any excuse. If you want to lay down and do it in bed, then do yoga in bed. There's there's an app for that there's that you can watch a YouTube, whatever. And it's been in bed, yo. And we also, we also just talked to somebody about laughter yoga. Oh my gosh, if you have never experienced it, you have got to do it. Because you just laugh from deep, your diaphragm belly loud. You know, you go into it thinking, huh? What is that everybody's just going head. It's just kind of like a canned thing. That's what you think, Well, no, bye, bye. You know, 1015 minutes, everybody's laughing at everybody else's laughs you're there, to screen fulls of people and they were just dying. laughing. It was hilarious. But it's also good   Roy Barker  51:13 for the stress. Because, you know, when, when one of us gets stressed, the other one will start that, you know, laughter and the other one can't help but start laughing and then, you know, for myself, it takes me out of that. Not so great place and it'll put me in a better place to carry forward with the rest of the day where, you know, instead of just getting all stuck in the mud with wherever I was. I love it. Yeah, it's, uh, it was it's, it's kind of a blessing for fine. I'm, I can be a little intense at times. And so she can be like,   Terry  51:51 I'll just start laughing. I'll just look at him. Like, really? Just start laughing. He's like, what's funny? I'm like, nothing. Just laugh.   Roy Barker  52:02 With Dr. Lauren, we appreciate your time. We've gone way long. I know that but such a good conversation. So many great things to think about. You know, one of our questions we always ask is, so what is a habit or tool? What is something that you use in your daily life professional or personal that you feel adds a lot of value?   Dr. Lauren  52:22 For me, when I we just started talking about the yoga I do Reiki? Okay. Every morning, when I get up, I do Reiki It is so relaxing, before I start my day, and so I find that that relaxes my complete Body before I get going and so that's very helpful for me if I don't do anything else, you know, before I you know, before I leave out and in the morning, that is one thing that I do is my Reiki.   Roy Barker  52:52 Awesome, Alreight. Well tell everybody, who do you like to work with? How can you help them? And then of course, how can they reach out and get a hold of you.   Dr. Lauren  53:02 So I like working with individuals who are either trying to change their lifestyle, who want to learn how to eat healthier, those individuals who are who are plagued with lifestyle diseases such as hypertension, diabetes, obesity, and they want to change their lifestyle. I like working with those individuals. And, you know, genuinely, you know, when you're working with me, you're going to lose weight. For those individuals who want to bikini bodies, I can do that as well. I don't, you know, I don't specifically market to that population. But the individuals that I do work with those that do have, you know, the lifestyle diseases, and I do that through The B-Fly Detox Program. I also have, you know, work with individuals who have special events going on, you know, such as, you know, lifestyle, life events, you know, like weddings and so forth. I work with those individuals, red carpet events, I work with those individuals to get them prepared for that. And so, all of this is under my umbrella of The Metamorphosis Health Coaching Program, and they can find me at my website, which is www dot Laurenkeirwellness.com.   Roy Barker  54:31 Okay, it would be sure to put all that in the show notes. Speaking of weddings, just I'm a dude, so I don't get this I guess, but they we have a toll road authority here in town that's been advertising the last two days. Somebody lost their wedding dress. They found this really nice wedding dress on the side of the road. And they feel like it belongs to somebody they're trying to figure out well, how do you bet there's some bride that is absolutely beside herself thinking about her dresses laying on the side of the highway   Terry  55:00 So that's that's kind of an extreme way to say I really don't want to get married or maybe they were mad. Maybe they were getting divorced. Throw it out. I was out and yeah,   Dr. Lauren  55:12 I don't think that bride lost it. I think she you know, there was all times I think brides to get bridges on throw that guy's away time away. Well, okay,   Roy Barker  55:22 well hopefully she went on her way to the chapel when she threw it out the car window. Alright guys, well, thanks again. that's gonna do it for another episode of Feeding Fatty. Of course, I   Terry  55:33 am Roy. I'm Carrie.   Roy Barker  55:35 And you can find us at www.feedingfatty.com we're on all the major podcast platforms, iTunes, Stitcher, Google Spotify. If we're not a one that you listen to, if you'll reach out, I'll be glad to get it added so you can make your Lee's listening easier. Also, we're on all the major social media platforms hang out on Instagram a little bit more than any other place. So reach out we'd love to engage with you there. And a video of this interview will go up on our YouTube channel when the episode goes live. So be sure and check that out as well. Again, thanks for listening. Take care of yourself and take care of your health. www.laurenkeirwellness.com www.feedingfatty.com

The 1958 Lawyer
Nate Dinger: Signature Bank

The 1958 Lawyer

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 23, 2021 25:48


Nate Dinger is the Senior Vice President of Commercial Banking at Signature Bank - he helps small, mid sized businesses, and law firms in Chicago manage their finances. Often times lawyers don't have any time to take care of their own firm's financial concerns so Nate, along with Signature Bank, helps them through financial advise, management and even through giving out loans for cases - which is uncommon since banks usually see court cases as high risk situations. Nate also talks about their company vision and focus of being a relationship-based bank. He discusses the big difference between knowing a guy or a gal and calling a generic phone number since people feel more valued when talking to a legitimate person than a service line.  Timestamps:How lawyers can benefit from commercial banks (3:10)Relationship-focused banking (10:41)Financing cases through commercial banks (16:01)Character as the most important of the four C's(20:16) “When the suns shining and everything's going fine, you might not need them. But on a rainy day, when things get shaken up a bit, it certainly helps to have a warm body to call.” Nate Dinger Connect with Nate:Website: http://www.signature-bank.com/index.cfmLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dinger/ Nate Dinger, Senior Vice President, Division Head - Commercial Banking at Signature BankCommercial BankingNate Dinger is the Senior Vice President of Commercial Banking at Signature Bank - he helps small, mid sized businesses, and law firms in Chicago manage their finances. LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dinger/  Have comments, questions, or concerns? Contact us at feedback@1958lawyer.com Episode Transcript:Ron Bockstahler  0:29  Okay, welcome to the show. I'm your host Ron box dollar. And today we have Nate dinger, Senior Vice President and division head at Signature Bank, a commercial bank located in chicago primarily in Chicagoland area, helping small midsize businesses, Chicago and law firms in Chicago. So they have a special niche. Nate, welcome to the show.Nate Dinger  0:47  Thank you for having me. I appreciate it.Ron Bockstahler  0:48  Yeah, we're gonna try to get through this without me butchering everything I say. But hey, let's talk about you a little bit. You've been with the bank for just over 16 years. Now, let's talk about how you got there. Yes,Nate Dinger  0:59  I got here, I took a job with a much smaller community bank, you know, a long time ago, and that bank no longer exists. It was fell victim to the first recession a little while ago. And But in that process, one of my clients, new Mecca work our CEO in May, the introduction signature was a much smaller place back then. And, you know, I jumped on board, I was young and willing to take the risk to a newer bank. And you know, it's been a lot of fun. It's been a fun ride since then.Ron Bockstahler  1:26  Awesome. And you're Wabash man, you and I were talking that before the show. So what's it mean to be a wall bash? Man? Can you explain it to our Chicago listeners who don't know?Nate Dinger  1:35  Sure? Sure, sure. So I think it means a lot to me, that's for sure. So for those of you that don't know, while Bash is a smaller, all male liberal arts college in Crawfordsville, Indiana, to great school, very tight network of alums. And, you know, it's a place where I learned to think, and, you know, you have small class sizes, where you're oftentimes, you know, under 1010 students in a class, you're interacting directly with your professors who challenge you on a day to day basis. And it really helps not only, you know, get a college degree, but I think, learn to think and, you know, help you, you know, help you grow up during the college process, so meant a lot to me.Ron Bockstahler  2:11  And to me, it says, You got great Midwestern values, which I know is one of the big things that Signature Bank, Let's chat a little about Signature Bank, what sets you guys apart from other banks?Nate Dinger  2:20  Sure. So I think there's a few factors. Number one is that we are strictly a commercial bank, and we're a relationship focused. Our bank was founded by three former LaSalle bankers that, you know, left there when Bank of America bought them and kind of pushed their group up market, you know, bigger deals, that sort of thing. And what we really value is the owner operated business where we can sit down with decision makers, you know, learn how their business takes, learn how they make money, and hopefully form a partnership. So 10 years from now, we'll still be in business will be bigger and better. And so will they and, you know, we'll be a value add partner, rather than just a money center.Ron Bockstahler  2:59  So Nate, how do you guys work with law firms, law firms kind of unique in what they need and what they do? So how does your Signature Bank really molded into let's face it, I got a reference to you from an attorney who's a good friend of mine said you got to talk to Signature Bank, the one of the best banks in Chicago for a lawyer.Nate Dinger  3:14  So sure, sure. So we've got a lot of different programs for law firms, given that no two law firms are identical, and none of them are exactly alike. So, you know, from your, your typical, you know, call it corporate law firm that, you know, has accounts receivable, so on and so forth. We've got programs designed for that type of firm, and we have a niche on the plaintiff side, that contingency fee firms that I don't think a lot of banks really appreciate, given the lumpy nature of their cash flow and the potential risk of losing a case here and there. We've developed a lot of specific programs around that, and not many banks, taking the time to understand how those businesses work. So I think that's something that that really sets us apart. We're also not scared of, you know, service industry clienteles, a lot of banks don't like that they like assets that they can touch, they like a building or a vehicle or something of that nature. But we really value service companies where we can meet the individuals learn how they work. And, you know, for lack of a better term, some cases, you know, we're betting on the jockeys and not the horses. So we understand the people that are running those institutions that I don't think a lot of banks really appreciate.Ron Bockstahler  4:21  Here, you bring up. I mean, basically, you're but you're an asset based lending institution. And if you're a law firm, your cases are your assets. Can you talk to how you guys look at a law firms cases? And how are they valued as an asset?Nate Dinger  4:35  Sure, sure. So there's a couple of different ways that you can, you know, put a value on and the first one is you take a look at the expenses that the firm has, has invested into their portfolio. So oftentimes, you'll see several 100,000 You know, million dollars, whatever it may be invested into a portfolio of matters and to us seeing that the firm has invested not only their time, but their dollars into these cases. How Get as comfortable. It also, in most cases, they don't have all their eggs in one basket. So, you know, diversification is an important thing for us in most situations that if something does go sideways, and heaven forbid, there's a loss, you know, at a trial or case settles for an amount less than the client had hoped for, that there's still work remaining that can, you know, get the clients pay, keep the firm running and, you know, ultimately get the bank paid back as well. We also firms in more in the mass tort, or class action space, we can value the projected proceeds from some of the larger the larger mass torts, larger cases out there, and lend back a percentage of the expected proceeds, you know, to those firms to help with, you know, their working capital, their ongoing expenses, and or continuing to build their portfolio. So those are just a couple of the different ways that we look at those.Ron Bockstahler  5:51  Some of them, can you talk to a little of some of the products, the loan types, your partner buy in buy? Let's, let's see firm acquisition loans, plan of early access loans, you guys, are you playing in those areas?Nate Dinger  6:05  Absolutely. Yeah, those all the above, I guess, would be the box check. You know, to that question, we do them all, every situation is a little bit different. You know, here's one that we're a unique loan that we're doing just as an example, right now, we've got a client that has a large verdict against a money good defendants, which has been appealed. And insurance company has offered to ensure their verdict in the event that something gets overturned in the appellate court or whatnot. So we're looking to help them finance the premium, which is a hefty sum, to ensure that case, and that's just one of the creative products, if you will, we have out there. But as far as you know, looking for a box to check to fit a firm into we don't really have one, we take a look at every, every firm and evaluate them individually, because it's tough to really, you know, although they both may be to plaintiff firms or baby to, you know, pick another genre, you know, they all don't operate the same. So we want to make sure we really understand each one and that, you know, its own merits, you know, can support we're looking to do.Ron Bockstahler  7:05  So now let's talk to some of the attorneys that are listening, and what should they be doing to prep or, you know, set up their law firm to be able to go out and work with a Signature Bank or receive the best, best quality financing for cases they're working on? What can they be doing today? If even before they have those cases?Nate Dinger  7:24  Absolutely. So I think the first thing is your financial reporting and your organization around your portfolio. Many times we get an introduction to a firm, and they really don't have good books and records demonstrating the portfolio of cases that they have. So we always recommend outside of just tracking the expenses that have gone into them, track your timeline, you're reasonably, you know, estimated timeline of resolution for the cases, and then kind of high low it, I know what the popular thing for firms to do is and the low end, we expect to settle for x, or on the high end, if things go well, we anticipate why having an organized set of financials really helps, it can speed up the process immensely. So you don't have to create them once you go out looking for financing. And it helps the loan officer individual looking at the case, understand things and you know, kind of tell the story to any sort of approval committee helps us tell the story a little bit better if things are organized,Ron Bockstahler  8:15  you know, when the PPP loans came out last year, year and a half ago. And we my model, you know, we did a lot of webinars to help our law firms receive those loans. And we ran into several of them that hadn't done their taxes in going two years back. And I was I was a little surprised. But did you guys run into the same things I know you guys participated, you helped a lot of your clients with those programs. Did you see that? And then is that something that they should? I mean, they gotta look to how do they avoid that? INate Dinger  8:42  guess? Yeah, so we did run into that. And I would not just with law firms. But you know, with a number of our different clients. Thankfully, we were able to to work with everybody, we got 100% of our clientele, PPP that wanted it. So it was a big success story. From our end, we were very proud. It was some long days, it's a long night, you know, working 1214 16 hour days to ensure that everybody was going to get their funding, because if you think back, it's not that long ago, but it was very chaotic. And nobody knew what was coming next. We didn't know when the courts would open again, that sort of thing. So it was a priority for us to work with our clientele. But to your first point about you know, filing the tax returns and things I you know, it's a best practice for any type of business to to get the financials filed in a timely manner in professional service areas, unfortunately, are ones that, you know, some of the best lawyers in the world and some of the best doctors in the world are busy doing their thing day to day. They're busy treating patients or representing their clients and forget to do the backend things. So yeah, I think making that a priority. It certainly helps if you're looking for for financing.Ron Bockstahler  9:42  You know, Nate, I'll say another thing that surprised me as we're helping attorneys get the PPP loans. Several of them are with large banks and their, you know, solo or partner practice law firms, and they're with Chase and PNC, and they couldn't get anyone on the phone. So they couldn't even talk to someone about how they can apply for that loan. And I thought Why are you with that bank? It's not an appropriate bank for this your size of operation. I mean, you're less than $5 million, your operation? You know, that's where I think Signature Bank can really it really steps up and says, No, we'll talk to you to kind of talk to how you guys handle customer service and why you different from, you know, let's beat up on Chase and PNC.Nate Dinger  10:19  Yeah, absolutely. So I think the biggest difference is here, you work with people, you don't work with one 800 numbers, or anything along those lines, you'll always have a person's number to call him, you know, most of the time you have multiple people you can reach out to so you know, if I get hit by a bus tomorrow, you know, you've got three or four other folks that you can call while I'm in the hospital, you know, probably hiring one of your lawyers to represent me. And that's that's been, you know, Mission one from day one, it signatures were a relationship focused institution, you know, big banks are, they're good for what they do, you know, the capital markets and things of that nature, they do it well. But I think PPP was a really good value prop, I guess, call it a validation for banks like ours, that we really did step up. In helped, we helped a lot of companies that came from big banks that were either told no, we're not going to process your application, or come back in two weeks, because we don't have time to handle the volume. We said, you know, what we're happy to help and stepped in and helped quite a few new clients for signature, you know, get their PPP funding, we help with the main street program, several other things along the way over the last couple years. But it's true, if you're at a bank, whether big or small, and you don't have a person to call, you're probably doing yourself a disservice. Because you know, when sun shining and everything's going fine, you may not need them. But on a rainy day, you know, when things get shaken up a bit, it certainly helps to have a warm body to call.Ron Bockstahler  11:39  And that's so I've owned a model office suite now for 20 years. And I've always had a call someone I call an individual, it's never been with a big bank. And when the bank a couple of times this has happened, the bank got bought by a bigger bank, and my banker, I just moved with my banker. And I was surprised that so many law firms didn't have a banker that they knew. So So I think hopefully, after this show, there are gonna be picking up the phone and calling you and calling your team and saying, Okay, we need to have I guess, let's answer this question. What are the hesitations for a lawyer, a small law firm, not to want to go with a small bank, what historically have been the things that you've heard?Nate Dinger  12:17  You know, over the historically it was location, you know, we're commercial held, we only have three offices. So we're not on every street corner, like a chase or a BFA. But with technology these days, you can deposit checks from your phone, from your desk anywhere. So you know, and the need for cash, actual cash has gone down significantly over the last, you know, call it 10 years. So a lot of the previous, you know, hesitation factors, you know, don't don't exist anymore. Or some people think that, oh, you know what, we're too small. Nobody really cares about us, or nobody will appreciate our business. And that couldn't be further from the case. You know, we appreciate every client Big or small, you know, and they're all treated the same way. You'll always have, you know, dedicated account officers, our technology is also second to none, given that we're not on every street corner, and we do business, primarily Chicagoland, but across the US, our online platform is, like I said, second to none, you can do any and everything that you could with the bigger bank with us these days. And we have to remain competitive in the tech space. Because because of that factor, our clients need to make the deposits they need to do everything that those places offer. But we offer all that plus, you know, a face and a handshake.Ron Bockstahler  13:27  It's funny, you say that I remember thinking I came back, I had my family out in Hawaii in January of 2020. And we came back and you know, the pandemic happened. And I would say going into August, September, I still had the cash, maybe it was $100 in my pocket that I had back in January because I hadn't spent cash and you know, while that cash has gone now, but I really haven't spent cash since because, you know, as you said, things have changed. We don't need an ATM on every corner. We don't eat cash all that much. So the needs of I think that's just the changing times. And law firms need to understand that they need to change also. So it opens the door to you know, quality banks, where you can actually talk to a person you know, your own person on a regular basis like Signature Bank, talk about it. Let's go the one big things that I do hear a lot of attorneys talking about that's or IOLTA accounts. And I know you guys have a lot of experience working with them and IOLTA accounts kind of talk about how you set those up. And you know why they want to go with you for their IOLTA accounts.Nate Dinger  14:24  Sure. So I think you know, we first things first, we really value and appreciate the law firms and understand the importance of these accounts. We know that things have to be you know, they have to be a well oiled machine and they can't have any hiccups. They can't have overdrafts, that sort of thing. So we from the very front end, understand and appreciate the importance of the IOLTA accounts. We take care of all the reporting that's required to the state meaning paying the interest sweeping it to, to them, so they're they're covered on that and we also have very robust fraud protection. It's ramped up, you know, even higher than normal for for a Catholic We do understand the appreciation of them for several different fraud prevention tools that we offer, and many layers you can you can stack on, to ensure that nobody gets their hands on, on your money. And, you know, from time to time that happens, you know, lawyers write a lot of checks to, to their clients and things. And every now and again, that gets in the wrong hands, but we do everything in our power to protect it when that happens. And you know, we've gotten a lot of business over the years, from lawyers that have had issues elsewhere. And, you know, then got referred to us because we do, you know, understand the importance of them. So, yeah, it's something we, we take seriously. And we also appreciate the firms trusting us, you know, with those accounts.Ron Bockstahler  15:40  So Nate, the attorney that referred me to you how I met you, as she's a personal injury law firm and just couldn't say enough good things. What are some of the special things you guys can do for personal injury law firms, or contingency for sci fi firms? Like I guess, they're more than just personal injury? So I should expand that?Nate Dinger  15:57  Sure, sure. So the number one thing that we do to those firms is we lend money, which is fairly unusual. If you talk to a lot of banks that have law firm clientele, the first thing they're going to ask you for is, let me see your accounts receivable aging, or something like that. And these firms don't generally have accounts receivable. So that's step one, we understand that, and we have our own set of metrics in things that we look at to value those firms. And on the flip side, lend them lend them money for their case expenses, or, you know, to help finance working capital, while they have resolved cases that are waiting to find, because oftentimes, these cases can have anywhere from, you know, 60 day to an 18 month tail on them, everything's resolved, you know, the money is going to be paid, it just takes forever to work through the process. The last 18 months, especially things got a long gated as courts were closed, and judges were unavailable and things like that. So those are things that signature understands and puts into the equation for financing that I don't think a lot of other competitors do.Ron Bockstahler  16:58  Now, that was definitely set you apart. I think it's very hard for a lot of law firms to find the financing they need to take on some cases. So great point. Let's chat about you guys are Chicago based. I mean, I know you're all across the country, but you really focus you take care of people in Chicago, let's talk about some of the organizations that you guys are out there supporting. Because I know that's a it's very important to a lot of the law firms out there that want to they're doing the same thing that make sure they take care of their, their hometown with you. Well, sure, sure. That with a little bit of a you know, I know Mr. Corey, I know you guys, but you guys got a long list, what are a few that really want it? Let's talk on?Nate Dinger  17:29  Yeah, so Ms. accordion is in a, you know, it's funny, we're, they're, they're pink, and you know, we, we count the money on their candy days, you know, when they collect other change. And you guys see, I'm getting your jelly beans and stuff out there. It's a really fun, you know, fun time of the year for us, because you really see the impact on a first hand basis is when they're all in, they're dumping their change in that sort of thing. So that just a great cause, you know, I was just at a gala last week for nonprofit schools called Instituto, and it's in the west side of Chicago. And we were there for their fundraiser. You know, there's quite a few different organizations, we really support the Evans scholar Foundation, which is a caddy scholarship for a needs based scholarship for kids that caddy and it's a full ride for four years for the individuals that qualify, and it's such it's a life changing thing for the kids that that get it, you know, we help with boys old girls hope, Mercy Home this lot. You know, it's really fun to see all the different organizations that are that our executive team and our, you know, our lending staff are involved with, I can go on for a while on all of these things you can tell they gets me excited. But yeah, it's a fun, it's a fun thing to do.Ron Bockstahler  18:34  Absolutely. I mean, look, I've been through your website, I've talked to some people within the organization, I know you guys are doing a lot for the community. So thank you very much, everyone. Appreciate that. But also, that's another reason why I think a lot of our law firms need to call you guys and talk about let's work with the firms that are helping our community. I think that's top priority, we got to be thinking about that. So I know you work with a lot of law firms, you know, what are some of the things you're seeing today, as far as what's changing in the business of law?Nate Dinger  19:00  You know, I think we're specifically today and or even the last 18 months, the closures really, the core closures really hurt a lot of our clientele. They just, they have a nice portfolio of cases and good cases and things of that matter, but they couldn't get things moved along. So both for their clientele that either needed the money or you know, needed help, they weren't able to do so. And it's not through any fault of the law firms. It's just kind of the, the crazy, hopefully once in a lifetime situation that we were in addition for signature, you know, we didn't panic, you know, we understand that these things are really out of out of our client's control. So we found ways to work with every single one of them. You know, I think the law firm industry as a whole, you know, it's funny, it's viewed as a high risk entity in banking terms. You know, we're very heavily regulated, you know, business and certain types of companies are considered high risk and a lot of that has to do with their law firms are handling money on behalf of their clients and a lot of have, in some situations a lot of money on behalf of their plants. So those types of things are a red flag for our auditors and any sort of governmental agency saying, Oh, how do we make sure things are on the up and up, and, you know, that's something that we take very seriously. And, you know, we know all of our clientele and are able to help them. And you know, kind of navigate some of those roads in the event there ever are issues, you know, every now and again, client will get their IOLTA account out of balance, you know, just by mistake or a bookkeeping error, you know, they cut a check for $10,000 instead of $1,000. And those are the things that we can help them clean up because it's getting more and more important and more heavily scrutinized as time goes on.Ron Bockstahler  20:40  So last, I think, a couple of things. I'm going to give you the last word, but I heard, I think it must have been a video with your CEO MC O'Rourke talking about character and the things you guys you know who you're banking with. And it might have been one of your videos where you guys talk about it's not the company, the law firm that pays the loan back, it's the owner, it's the individual. So talk to the character, talk to what you're looking for, as far as when you're out there meeting the right people, that's going to be the right let's call it the right law firm lawyer for Signature Bank.Nate Dinger  21:09  I think that's probably the most important see, if you will, you know, they in banking, you talk about credit, you talk about character, you talk about, you know, there's the four C's, but I think characters is number one, we like to look everybody in the eye and shake their hand, and really learn who they are, you know, how their firm operates. And you know, what they value and, you know, nine times out of 10, if we're on the same page with the owner of the firm, or the, you know, the different partners, we can find a way to help and it's just one of those, you know, call it old school, call it whatever you want one of those things that we'll never stop doing. Because we find it it's one of the most important things we do on a day to day basis is to get to know our get to know our clients.Ron Bockstahler  21:51  I think that's I think it just that's important in life know, dealing with the right people working with the right people. And you're right, I don't think that'll ever change. Right? A lot of a lot of things.Nate Dinger  22:01  Yeah, our CEO, he's got a couple of the cliche, but he says I got a guy. And if I don't have a guy, I need to have a guy that has a guy that I can I can talk to it's his old school way of of doing business, but you know what works? It's what I believe in as well. So rather than having a one 800 Number, you know, now you got a guy if you're listening to this, or gal do we have plenty of women on our team too, but I'd have be happy to be that guy. Well, nowRon Bockstahler  22:25  that anyone's listening to this show any lawyer out there listen, and now they got Nate, you got nature banker give Nate a call. They last word, what do you want the last word you want to leave our audience with about yourself about Signature Bank? Yeah, INate Dinger  22:36  think the number one thing we'd like to leave with the audience is that we are committed to this space, the legal, the legal space is something we really value and enjoy doing. You know, we talked about the individuals earlier, and it's probably some of the most fun clients that I have in this space as well. So I'd like the audience to know that they can call me about anything, whether it's, you know, I've got a deal in place with my current bank, is it good? Is it bad? What do you think that sort of thing so I'm happy to talk through any situation that that may arise and see if we can be a good fit. Sometimes we're not like we can't do business with everybody unfortunately. And if I'm unable to help, there's a good chance that I know somebody that will we've got a deep network in this space and hopefully know either with signature or someone that we know we can be evaluated to any of the listeners.Ron Bockstahler  23:22  So I lied so that my last question you know, you just made me think of litigation finance are you guys tying up or working with any litigation finance firms at this point in time?Nate Dinger  23:31  We don't really work directly with any of them it's funny we take we get business from and or refer business to you there are several in the area that we know sometimes when they have clients that are you know, already for a senior banker you know, like we're typically lower risk but also lower cost and in some of the litigation finance companies out there we get referrals from them and or we have clients that their risk appetite is a little more than ours. We have several that we can also refer to those litigation finance company so we know and we know them well but there's nothing directly you know, there's not a directly correlated back and forth for any of them.Ron Bockstahler  24:10  Sure. Okay. The best way for our audience listeners to get a hold of youNate Dinger  24:16  Sure. Telephones always on my direct line is 312-386-6904 Or feel free to email me and dinger which is m D i n g R at Signature Bank dot bank.Ron Bockstahler  24:31  Say that email again because that bank that's different.Nate Dinger  24:34  It is it's new. So yeah, it's N. dinger at Signature Bank dot bank.Ron Bockstahler  24:40  name has been great to have me on your show really appreciate you coming and talking to us and introducing our audience to Signature Bank we I think a lot of them want to give you a call after this show. So it really highlights what we're doing. October is financial awareness month at a modest so we're trying to really bring you you've had the CFO we've had Steve Metro with Metro financial come in and talk about how they can save more money. But you know, it all comes down to the bank got to have a strong bank and personal relationship with the banker is a must. If you are a small business, a solo law firm or a partner practice law firm, so appreciate you having on the show. Thanks for listening everyone, and we'll catch you again next week.Voiceover  25:17  Thanks for listening to the 1958 lawyer podcast. If you liked the show, tell a friend and please subscribe rate and review us on Apple podcast, Google Spotify or wherever you get your podcast. If you'd like to hear more about Ron or Amata go to a motto offices.com All the links are also available in Show NotesTranscribed by https://otter.ai

Feeding Fatty
Your Convenience Is Killing You! Raise Your Awareness To Stop Bad Habits

Feeding Fatty

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 23, 2021 63:05


Your Convenience Is Killing You! Raise Your Awareness To Stop Bad Habits Featuring Dr. Lori Monaco When it comes to your eating habits are you on autopilot? Are you just looking for the most convenience? If you are it's probably killing you! In order to change bad habits, start with awareness. You may have to take the more difficult road. Yes, it's easier and more convenient to hit the drive-through or microwave something but what are you really getting? About Dr. Lori Dr. Lori Monaco is the founder and CEO of Align Yourself Inc. She is an authenticity teacher, speaker, and coach, and a Chiropractic Physician. She specializes in mindfulness practice, transformation, and aligning with authentic self to create an abundant life. Lori earned her professional degree from Sherman College and her coaching certification from The Institute of Heart Math. She was a post-secondary human health science teacher for almost two decades. She is a member of Lead Up for Women and a Board Member of the non-profit organization Journal of Hope. Known as the Badass Buddha and the Fat Eviction Specialist, she is the creator of “The 7 Core Pillars of Alignment” where she teaches people how to love more, laugh more, live more, be happy, be real, take charge of their health, and to create peace and harmony within to live a more fulfilled life. Her other programs include: B.L.A.S.T. VIP and group coaching, the “Evict the Fat” wellness program, and various workshops for educators, corporate, and laypeople (online and in-person). She is the cohost of the show “Viva Café con Leche” and BlogTalkRadio Show “Viva Moms After Dark”. Lori has written articles for a multitude of magazines and is currently working on her own book. She lectures locally and throughout the country and coaches remotely connecting with clients around the world. She has 3 daughters that totally rock and resides in southern CT. Connect with her on: FB, Twitter, YouTube @drlorimonaco, IG @thebadassbuddha1, and TikTok @thebadassbuddha www.drlorimonaco.com www.feedingfatty.com Full Transcript Below Your Convenience Is Killing You! Raise Your Awareness To Stop Bad Habits Featuring Dr. Lori Monaco Sat, 7/24 2:36PM • 1:02:49 SUMMARY KEYWORDS eat, people, meds, lose, habit, day, body, eating, feel, years, taught, younger, thinking, monaco, kids, talk, diabetes, ice cream, live, put, Convenience is killing you, Raise your awareness, stop bad habits SPEAKERS Terry, Dr. Lori, Roy Barker   Roy Barker  00:05 Hello, and welcome to another episode of Feeding Fatty. This is Roy,   Terry  00:08 this is Terry.   Roy Barker  00:09 So we are the podcast chronicling our journey through wellness. And that can include diet, not a diet as much as just what we eat. Also exercise and movement throughout the day and mindset we have gotten to be as we've gone through this, we've uncovered mindset is a huge component. A lot of us know what to do, but trying to figure out how to do that and do it consistently over long periods of time. That can be the challenge. So, you know, we bring new podcast, kind of updates on our situation talk a lot about diabetes, but also we have professionals in their disciplines on from time to time and today is no different. Terry, I'm going to let you introduce Dr. Lori.   Terry  00:54 Yeah. Laura. Dr. Lori Monaco, aka The Badass Buddha is an authenticity teacher, coach and speaker, chiropractic physician, co host of the YouTube and Facebook show, "Viva Cafe con Leche:. And the blog talk radio show "Viva Mom's After Dark". She's the creator of the "Seven Core Pillars of Alignment", "Transformation University", "B.L.A.S.T., VIP and Group Coaching" and the "Evict The Fat" wellness program featuring Chirothin". Laurie special specializes in mindfulness and transformation and has created online and in person workshops for corporate healthcare, education and laypeople. badass Buddha teaches people how to love more, laugh more, live more, be happy, be real and be themselves to create peace and harmony for a more fulfilled life. She's a compassionate and silly human, a loving mom and a proud Gen X or she is unapologetically herself and teaches and inspires others to be the same. Dr. Monaco, Badass Buddha. Welcome to the show.   Dr. Lori  02:04 Who's that professional? She sounds really cool. Like, who was she talking about? Like, well, we are professionals time to time I'm like, no. That's right   Roy Barker  02:15 No, no, I've been on those shows before where they introduce you. And I'm like, Okay, let's stop here, because it's only going to go downhill. Well, thank you so much for taking time out of your day to be with us. Really appreciate it. We're excited. Tell us a little bit about how you got here. I mean, you've got a lot going on, but you know, is helping people. Did you grow up wanting to be a professional that helped people? Or did you kind of take the long and winding road into this?   Dr. Lori  02:46 I guess I've always been I mean, I've always been very compassionate. And without knowing the word, empathic, you know, I didn't realize that till I got older. Originally, it was all animal based. So I wanted to be a vet, you know, and I love being around animals. And then I guess it was really in college. That's when you know, I mean, I took the I took, I took the four year plan, but I didn't know what the heck I was going to do. So I just kept switching my major and my brother, my might, I only have a two siblings, I have a brother and a sister, my brother and they're both much older than I and my brother was a chiropractor, he still is, and I really resonated a lot with that I knew I just I knew I didn't fit in the mainstream. And I definitely didn't want to just dispense drugs and stuff to people I just always believed in the power that made the body can heal the body. And so I opted to go into that. And then it was my transition over the year. So I've been a chiropractor for over 22 years. Wow. And I know I was like 10 when I graduated. Yeah. And so, um, and then, you know, I mean, it was great. And I and I did when I was first two years it was you know, it was great. I liked it, but I wasn't in love with it. And then I decided to you know, add something to my income. So I started teaching and I was teaching post secondary like anatomy and physiology classes pathology and and that's what I realized that what I was meant to do like and and I was a speaker since chiropractic school because they taught us to teach, you know, wellness and teach your patient so I definitely hit got bit with the bug, you know, the freaking bug. And so I knew I liked that but then teaching I was like wow, this is this is what I'm definitely passionate about. And I'm very good at you know, so I did that for years and almost two decades teaching. And then but a few years back I hit a really low point in my life. I had had depression since I was about 15 when I look back at is probably about since about 15 and had one major depressive episode but was not prepared for the major depressive episode we're going to have just about almost six years ago, and it was so bad. It was six months long, three weeks for suicidal and Oh, wow, I, when I finally started to come out of it, and I said, Okay, you know what I don't, I got to figure this out because I got to fix myself because all these years all these things, I was a kid. I never felt right. I never felt like I was myself. And then I started to really deep dive into like, the personal development. And it was at that point, when I started to really feel better. I said, Okay, I want to teach this. And so then, you know, you go on to the next phase, you're like, well, who does that? Oh, coaches, so you know, that you get certified to be a coach and, and it's evolved from that. So I love working with people like I love humans, I love animals, too. I actually love all creatures, and but humans, just we have so much potential. And so I look back at all the years that I wasted, because I just couldn't get out of my own way. So that got me to where I am today. And I love like, I'm so passionate about helping people, especially those that are really stuck. And especially those that deal with like depression and anxiety, which we have a hell a lot about that like, like the amount that we have. Now, with everything that's happened over the last year. It's just, I mean, before that it was already epidemic. Now it's even worse.   Roy Barker  06:18 Yeah, and I'm concerned a little bit. You know, we don't have to belabor that point. But, you know, we thought we would see, I guess some things happen in the beginning, but I think the government stepped in and provided some funding, which helped people you know, at least have shelter and eat and all these other programs. But now that the extra unemployment is going away, a lot of these rent, and utility. I don't say abatement because they weren't abatement they were more just kicking the can down the road. But a lot of these programs are ending. A lot of people are being forced to go back to work after they've enjoyed working from home for a year. So I mean, it's not working at all. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So there's just a lot of things coming together all at once. And I, you know, kind of makes me wonder, you know, what is this going to look like going through these next few months, and we've already you know, we're in the Dallas Fort Worth area. And we've already seen to me what I consider an exponential rise in crime and violent crime and things that people are doing. So anyway, I think everybody seems to be stressed and at their wit's end, and there's so many great things that we can do to help ourselves both mentally and physically.   Dr. Lori  07:34 Oh, for sure. I think I think the biggest challenge was that there were many people, not everyone, and not the majority, but many people that took last year as a moment to to breathe, and to slow down and assess things. And it was and it's those individuals who have done the have had the most success. Right? They realize that okay, this is not exactly we don't know, but to say that we'll be back on track. You know, remember, in the beginning of March, they were like, oh, we'll be back on track by the summer. And most people that were really thinking about it, we're on now it's not Yeah, it's gonna be like, probably about a year and a half. So I'll prepare for it, I'll make the shifts, I'll do what I need to do. Know, and knowing that even when that's up, then we have to shift again. So those people, I don't want to call them enlightened people, but I think they just took they just were more aware. They had the best time, versus the individuals who just wrote it and said, Oh, I can't work, okay, then the government's going to help me, oh, and I'm going to be home. And I and, and instead of like bettering themselves, and I'm not blaming, you know, the person, you know, you only know what, you know, I mean, that's, that's the reality, it's, but at the same time, that is a little bit of an excuse, because we are living in an age where you can find anything out, you can learn anything, and there was so much online, I mean, there was so much available, there were so many free courses, there was so many different things. So I, I feel like in some ways that we as humans didn't step up as much as we could have, you know, like, we people gained weight during COVID. You know, they ate like, you know, like, offley audio, and we just sort of, and I say we, because that was me in the beginning, like it was this did get overwhelming for me, but then I just like, Okay, that's enough. And you know, and actually lost 40 pounds in COVID, you know, during COVID. So, that's, that's awesome. I'm telling you, it's like, wow, you know, so, um, but it's but it for the rest. It was just sort of, you know, and then they come out and now they're like, Oh, my God, what am I going to do? I don't want to go back to work. I don't want this. I don't want that. But they sort of didn't prepare themselves. And, you know, so my hope is that for those of us that really kind of had a good mindset going in, and throughout that because I believe in Jay and I believe in the collective consciousness, you know, and we need to put that out there. We need to for those of us that that decided to start new projects and did really well in 2020. put that out there out there for all these other people that are floundering, and say you can do this, like you can do this, you just, you know, everything, as Marie Forleo says, everything is figured out double, you know, because because it is, you know, we have that ability, where that's what we have these fabulous brains for that reason.   Roy Barker  10:29 Well, and most people say they put on the COVID-19. And I said, Well, I'm an overachiever, I did the COVID 38. So no, oh, well, good for you. But, you know, we were out well, I'll speak for myself. But let Terry, I'll let her speak for her. But, you know, I think I was one of the lucky unenlightened ones that didn't really know what to expect. But it was such an opportunity for us to slow down. And I think after a couple months into it, we were like, we really needed to slow down as this, you know, everybody is out fast paced running here and running there. And, you know, now we've kind of made a pretty big switch is, you know, we're enjoying being home, we figured out things, you know, we have enough to do to keep 10 people busy around here. So it's never, it's never a shortage of something. But you know, getting out more in the back. I think Terry is, you know, when it's a long story we'll get into but you know, when she moved out here, a few years ago, it was like, she's not the Pioneer Woman, but you know, she's adopted, you know, she's got her herd of deer and some turkeys and other wildlife that she's taking care of now, I just got a herd of deer and squirrels, raccoons, wild turkeys weird. So, you know, that's our thing is, you know, we wake up in the morning and say, you know, we kind of laughingly call on customers, we say how many customers we have out that our customer down at the cornfield. So anyway, you know, we were I think we were lucky because like you said, I think and we were lucky to because we were able to continue working, it didn't really disrupt a lot of things, except the slowing down part, which I'm very thankful for. Yes. It's just nice to be able to take a breath and not always feel like you have to be somewhere else.   Terry  12:17 Yeah, and we took a lot of time to take took that time to work on our eating habits and different ways that we could eat to age better, as well as trying to lose a few pounds, you know, and it's trial and error, of course along the way. But, you know, just trying to figure out, I used to eat everything and anything and was grown up, I went when I grew up, it was on junk, junk food, you know, Chuck, dad would buy 12 bags, big grocery sacks full of Halloween candy, and we might give one away if we were lucky. The rest of it, he ate probably, you know, nine or 10. And we ate the other one. But we had to fight for it. You know, we just lived on peanut butter and chocolate. I'm telling you. And it was not a good. It wasn't I mean, it was good then but you know, you get older you start putting on the pounds, you don't even realize that it's happening. And and next thing you know, you're 56 and you're like what? Wait, oh, yeah. Oh, man, that just came out.   Dr. Lori  13:31 And you get diagnosed with something too. And then you sometimes have the audacity to go How did that happen? Well, you know, because we were taught to be detached like that, though. We're taught that, you know, I mean, how many times have you heard it's like, oh, you know, one minute, they're saying you kids really shouldn't eat this much sugar, Baba blah, and especially we're all around the same age. So it's like we that really wasn't, you know, they say, Oh, you know, the kids really shouldn't eat that much sugar, but it didn't matter. They push it now with more statistics, but the you know, back in the day, and even now it's like, well, you know, you could get away with it as your you know, you're gonna have to change when you get a little older, you can eat that way anymore. Don't   Terry  14:10 worry about it. Now, what   Dr. Lori  14:12 habits are habits and if they're instill that a young age, you know that it's funny, I hear this story a lot from people I hear, you know, because I talked to people about their, the their habits that were forged since they were younger, and especially with eating and I didn't I wasn't raised that way. I was actually my mother had very limited we were very limited on our sweet. A truly like we were not allowed to have sugar cereals. We were you know, we got ice cream every so often. And I look back and I'm like, wow, that's ungrateful. Like I ate a lot of vegetables ate a lot of fruits, you know, but it was when I got older and I was on my own. I was like, Oh, I could buy this myself. You know, and that's and so sometimes we it's not even that you're raised that way. It's just no matter what. It's one Once you get the taste for it, it's it's a drug, it's especially sugar, you know, and so you get it in there and you're like, I feel really good after I ate this. Why is that? You know, you know, of course you don't ask why that is you just say, Oh, this, I gotta have the more correct, right, you don't realize that it's literally your chemicals being released in your brain that are saying, No, no, no, you want, this is really good stuff to have, you know. And so we tend to be forced into the change. You know, it's when you get the, the doctor says to you, oh, you know, you're, you know, you're pre diabetic, or, you know, your blood pressure is up there, and we're gonna put you on meds. And what's scaring me nowadays, is that the generation behind us are not as scared about the meds, though, like, our generation was probably the first generation to hit their 40s and 50s. And be told you need to go on meds. And we were like, what do you got to be kidding me, you know, like that my parents didn't go on meds till they were in their 60s, you know, like that. And then we're like pushing pull fighting a little bit. But I mean, I've seen over the years, the generations behind us, you know, they're, they're getting on meds in their 20s. And they're not even on just one med. And so for them to say the doctor said, Well, now you didn't need to be on this. But alright. It is what it is not realizing that just some changes in your diet is could be a big game changer. You know? Well, I   Roy Barker  16:29 think you're, you know, what, you talked about habits. And I don't think there's some data out there that proves this. But, you know, like my generation, we had a couple fast food places. I mean, we live in a pretty big town, there were a couple fast food, places that I knew about that, you know, on a Friday night, or Saturday was kind of a treat to go get a hamburger. Right now, they're on every corner and you go down, you know, we have like, restaurant rows here, where there'll be one street with nothing but fast food restaurants. And the surprising thing is, I noticed this when my kids were gone. But you could drive by at nine o'clock at night. And there were car loads of families that were just now going through eaten, you know, drive through stuff at nine o'clock at night. And it It surprised me, but I've heard sense about this study, that's just saying that, you know, because of that they were raised in fast food drive restaurants that they have, there are a lot of issues with these, you know, with the younger generation that 20 to 30 year old group now because of that,   Dr. Lori  17:31 yeah. Oh, for sure. And it's not, you know, that we always talk like, we always hear this about the fast food places, the fast food places. But even even beyond that piece, you know, they Some people say oh, no, but I don't we don't we don't go to fast foods. You know, we go food shopping. But if you're buying packaged food that goes into the microwave, and it's just, it's already made, and it's it's the same thing. It's the same exact thing. And so it I think it's a false, like sense of whatever, that they feel a little bit better, like, Oh, I'm not, you know, I'm not going out to the fast food restaurant. But you know, so I go to the food store. And again, it's all convenience, you know, our convenience of killing off, you know, I mean, listen, who was out, like, think about when we were kids who was out at nine o'clock at night, with their parents going to eat? We were already like in bed, you know, whether you're going to sleep or not, you're like, No, we ate at like dinner time. And remember back in the day, like the TV used to go off at a certain time like that. And they or they used to have the commercial. It's 10 o'clock. Do you know where your children? Are you ever that way? So it's like, but now it's like parents just, it's like, their kids are up late. They're out. I mean, okay, I could see I'm a little guilty with this with my kids. Like, my kids are definitely blue. The bedtime, you know, I used to go to bed really early, but my kids go to bed a little bit later than I did. But I like you said you're out at night and 910 o'clock at night you have a family out, just getting ready to eat or shopping at Walmart or whatever, you know, and and I'm in my head going is late for these kids to be out like what is this doing to their sleep schedule their you know, their their chemical balances. I mean, all this stuff, but it's become so accepted. Yeah, you know, so it's, it's and then that all ties in so if you if you're not getting the sleep you want and you're and your body's stressed out, you crave the credit your foods, because that's just the way I mean, you crave the carbs, you crave the and the process stuff. And so it's like all that sets up.   Roy Barker  19:36 And even when my kids were small, you know, we had we lived in a small town at that time. So we were very structured dinner at five or six o'clock kids in bed by eight or 830. I couldn't imagine trying to get a child out of bed in the morning to go to school that didn't go to bed till 11 or 12 o'clock at night. I mean, it was a fight with two that were getting plenty of sleep that we'd have to call the SWAT team and Do not   Terry  20:02 go when.   Roy Barker  20:03 But you're right. And that's what I noticed about me is sleep deprivation starts the trigger of, I don't feel good anyway. Now I need I think if I, for some reason, it's that I want to eat something to get a little burst of energy, well, then you have to keep doing it, you know, you get a little high than he get the valley. It's such a bad cycle to get into, because that's where then I don't feel like getting out and exercising or moving. And to me, it's, I've begun to see that that is like the beginning of the end for me when things go wrong.   Dr. Lori  20:41 Yeah. And it takes the it takes the awareness to stop it, you know, say, Okay, yeah, this isn't good. And this isn't, you know, and we're, when we talk about I mean, you know, everybody these days talks about habits like, Oh, well, this habit and this habit, and I don't think people even still really know how severe bad habits can be habits are not we're not just talking about the brain like subconsciously not thinking about we were saying that it's also it's a physical habit. You know, it's not just about that you're craving something, your body physically, it's just like they talked about with smoking, you know, for some odd reason, we always understand that with smoking, we're like, oh, well, there's the chemical addiction. There's the emotional psychological victim of there's a physical ditch and holding the cigarette in your hand. Well, it's the same thing with food. It's like holding a soda cup in your hand slipping through the straw. It's, it's having a bag of chips sitting down next to you, while you're, you know, watching TV. And your body is literally physically come accustomed to the fact that when you sit and watch this show, you're usually munching on this. And so even if you try your best, and you say, Okay, I'm not eating this anymore, and I'm not gonna eat past this hour, you plop down and put that TV show on, you're sitting in the same exact seats that you normally do. And all of a sudden, you wonder why 10 minutes, and you say to yourself, I'm not even hungry, this is fabulous. This is great, I'm gonna feel good. And then 10 minutes later, your body's like, Where's the chit? Like, all sudden, you're hungry? And you're like, wait, but this just doesn't make sense. I was just, I thought about it, I'm full. Now, why am I wanting to eat the chips, because that is the whole package. And you've trained and we train our brain, and inevitably, our body to do it, you know. And again, it's all about awareness, you have to become a conscious majority of your day. And it's like, we're only like, conscious about 5% of our day, right? So so in order to change it, you have to be conscious, a lot more, and it's exhausting. It really is, you know. And so in the beginning, some people are really gung ho about it, but that's why we lose the momentum. And that's why we, we, we fall off the wagon, so to speak, because we just we lose it as we, the more fatigued we get. So that's why in the morning, everybody's so perfect. Like, people get up in the morning, like, I'm not eating this today, I'm good. And you're good all day. And then as the day goes on, you hit the afternoon, and then all of a sudden, you're starting to feel it, it's a little harder, it's a little hard to say no to this, and then by a certain point, that's why sometimes I would say to my clients don't eat, you're not going to eat past this time anyway. But if you find that you're getting hungry, and you cannot, you know, like you're it's really becoming overwhelming. Go to bed, like go to bed. And and if they're like, well, I don't want to go to bed at like nine o'clock at night and blah, blah. I'm like, why not? Why got too much work to do. But if you're working and staying up on your computer, and you feel like you want to munch on something, then just say, you know what, I'm just gonna finish my work tomorrow, get up earlier, tomorrow, get up earlier, go to bed now. And then you won't feel so guilty because you didn't eat before you went to bed. And how many times do we even when we're hired? It's not even that we're actually hungry. We it's funny, we get cravings that we want to eat, like we're quote, hungry when we're tired. And when we're thirsty. Sometimes thirst is what we're what we're like, we're, we're dehydrated.   Roy Barker  24:10 Yeah. And I'm like, I'm dehydrated all the time, because I don't like water. And, you know, talking about habits. You know, I was in the habit of always having a Coca Cola in my hand. The It's been a while but one day, I mindlessly wandered over to the cabinet. And they were chickpeas. So it wasn't totally bad. But you know, I had my hand in there before. I told Terry I'm I already knew he was yes. And no, we're not really wasn't even given it a thought. You know, luckily I stopped but the other night we had a good dinner, little vegetables with a little piece of meat. It was awesome. It was the right size. And then about an hour later I'm like, Oh, I can sure use a snack and she's like, Well, are you hungry again? And I stopped the dawn. I'm like no, my belly felt all full but I felt it in my chest and I don't know why it just kind of like a sinking feeling up there. But, you know, if you really stop and be mindful about where is this feeling coming from? Like, then it's like, No, I'm not hungry at all. And I was able to push through I wasn't happy about it but right. Habit because, you know, I, prior to Terry, you know, that was my thing is, you know, I would have all this bad night eating, you know, I'd sit in front of the TV and eat some popcorn, I have to admit, I'd get in the car at 10 o'clock at night and drive up to the little quick stop place. Maybe they have nachos or ice cream, just a little snack just to kind of pick me up. And I'm like, you know, like what you said, now thinking back and let me just go to bed because that's all I was really doing. was fighting sleep for a fifth, correct?   Dr. Lori  25:49 Yeah. And why? Like, why do we, you know, and what you were saying about? Uh, it's you do, it's like before you know it, you're eating it. And then your brain catches up and you go, what am I doing wrong? And but the interesting thing is, for those out there listening, it's like once it is it's you have to be you have to be mindful, you cannot mindlessly do it. Because mindlessness does go subconscious. And you're just you're on autopilot. So if you're changing the habit, you force it, you force it, you're forced to have to think about it. But interestingly, the once you do it, and it, it catches, you also want to make sure that you honor yourself with saying, When thought when you're presented with the item that you use to eat or drink or whatever, and you have no desire for it, you have to honor yourself and celebrate it. You know, like I was thinking about this the other day, you know, I could not remember the last time I had soda. And I was a big soda drinker. I mean, I wasn't like I didn't have it all the time in the house. I did. I didn't actually the cool part is I never bought it for my house. But I did go out a lot. Like I'd be on my way back from work and I'd stop you know, in the kids and blah, blah, blah. And so it was had soda soda soda and, and soda was like sprite was my beer. When I would do yard work was the people like are sweating, they drink their beer over sprite was my thing. So we're like, oh, you're going to run out to this lunch to go get us something at me, you know this and give me sprite? So as we were talking about it the other day, and I'm like, yeah, you know, I haven't had soda in and I stopped for a second I said, like, I don't even remember the last time I had, so it must be like six years, you know, like six years. And I, I really loved saying it. Like I loved saying and I was like, I have not had it in six years. Like this is really, really cool. You know, and again, I didn't have that big of an addiction to it. But to be able to say that and, and it's whatever, you know, if we do happen to go out to eat, you know, whether it is a good food fast, you know, we'd say that or the or, or just a restaurant, you know, I never asked for that, you know, like, it's it's the it's always Water, water, water, you know, and don't think twice about it anymore, you know. And so I I'm happy about me and I still, you know, there's still pieces that I do struggle with that I have to be very ridiculously mindful of not eating. But I'm so glad that there's certain pieces that I've let go and it's so nice. It's so nice to not even think about it.   Roy Barker  28:24 And that I've cut way down. I mean, years ago, it was worse. But that soda just, you know, I guess it's I don't think it's really all as harmless as what they make it out to be. You know, I've heard none at all that this store is dying. Yeah, yeah, that's nice. And eventually your body. It's getting some kind of a glucose out of it. So it uses that. But anyway, that's been tough. And also thinking about other triggers. Like we did a lot of soul searching on ice cream, because that is my thing. I mean, I can eat ice cream, breakfast, lunch and dinner. I don't need anything else. It's got, you know, it's all the food, all the food groups all rolled into one. But, you know, we started talking about efficiency. Well, it's like I told somebody one time like aspirin, it's just frozen cereal. But we trace this back about why it's such a big thing. And it's interesting that my two grandfather's and my dad. It's like whenever we had a celebration, that is that was the go to like I'd go over to my grandparents and be you know, it's just a little thing. You know, I'd be out there helping him push the lawnmower around, around or whatever and we put in a good day's work. Let's go get an ice cream. So one grandpa took me up to the drugstore. And then the other one. They had a dairy queen right up at the corner of their screen in a busy street. So let's show up the Dairy Queen. We need a break and then dad same way You know, it'd be at his work come with him even into my teenage years and he had always come out and stopped me and like, let's go get an ice cream. So there's a little dq down down the road from him. And it's so vivid, my memory of setting in that dq. With him the jukebox, this will give away some age, but there's like a Van Morrison song playing. I mean, I can see it just like it happened this morning. So anyway, I think that also, maybe there's a lot of the emotional stuff that's tied to anything is that, you know, that was good time spent with, you know, my loved ones for sure. But it was also reward for a job well done. So there's a lot more to it than, you know, just,   Terry  30:45 you were sad. And all that.   Dr. Lori  30:47 Yeah. That's what makes it so challenging. When people are, you know, like, it's, it's, it's so easy to say, oh, we're gonna switch to a clean diet, and we're not going to eat processed anymore, and we're not going to have sugar anymore, and we're not going to take in dairy anymore. and blah, blah, blah. And it is, you know, on paper, on paper, it's so easy, but, but when what when you start to I mean, listen, I grew up Italian. So like, I mean, I remember vividly going to my grandmother's, every other weekend, the whole entire family would pile into her split level house. And we would have multiple courses. And inevitably, you'd always have the macaroni That's what you call that and the sauce and the meatballs and the sausages and then they take out the pastries after and the espresso and, and to me, it's you know, it's like any most Italians will tell you that Italian Americans especially that, that it's it was always around food and, and there was always a joyful moment. And so, you know, I'll even to this day, I mean, I don't eat pasta anymore. But I'll To this day, like when somebody does have pasta, that's what I think of like, I think of Oh, you know, grandma's house. And, and you know, when the one thing I will say this, though, is that, you know, when we were all younger, not that I'm making an excuse for it, but when we were all younger, the quality was much better. So like if you were eating the pastas, and if you were eating the ice creams, it was so different than it was now even the sugar was different, it was still addictive, it was still not good. But But now the the amount of chemicals that they put in these things and the flavoring and it's just, it's we are so not just addicted, chemically but and physically but but it's it's actually carrying us off, like we're the this is not good stuff anymore. And, and it and it's it's like you know, it bothers me because we focus so much on not that we shouldn't you know, like this whole thing with, with what happened last year in the virus, it's but we have to really step up and look at the bigger picture here that we you know, our bodies are really, really powerful, we can really ward off a lot of stuff. But the more hips we ate, the less effective we become. And so, you know, I was always taught from a young age, you know, outside in, you know, the boy, whatever would do the power that made the body heals the body and your body is the ability to heal. And but you it's just like a car, you put lousy gas in the car, the car's not gonna last as long you know, and, and when we continuously put lousy stuff in and actually there's been research that shows us that generations of lousy food, have it have made the diabetes and the heart disease more prevalent in a younger age. So what they the renewer researchers saying that Okay, so my you know, the the those that were born in the set, you know, in the 70s in the 60s, you're one you were like one generation of the junk like that, that's when it kind of started it was it was starting a little early for that but that's when it really started but if you had kids and then your kids had the junk and then your kids had the junk they're really setting themselves up for some really because they didn't even get you know, the the start they didn't even get the base work and it's and they're believing that genetically we're also passing on these corrupt gene. You know, like it's almost like passing on files or going to computer and passing in these on you know, and and when we look at it that way, boy that's really scary. But that's that's very bothersome to me especially   Terry  34:33 now that you said that. I mean I have two daughters and one of them the older one is eating. She She eats a lot better than than the younger one. The young ones still, you know trying to go in through the fast food grab and whatever's packaged fast, quick because she's on the go on the go on the go. And then not that my older ones not but she takes more time in is more conscious of her decisions, to eat whole foods more at Whole Foods, and she knows, you know what's good for her. And that's funny that you scientists now realize that I think they said that.   Roy Barker  35:15 Yeah, the other thing I think you mentioned was garbage in, garbage out. And that's one thing while we have started this, thinking more about it, because you know, we're getting into this the age where there's really no going back, and there's not a lot of time to adjust and make changes. And so I think, you know, the, what we carry into our older age is going to determine, you know, how well we age and we don't, we always say, we don't want to outlive our wellness. And so that's what's got us really not tearing me, I'll say me, you know, it's got what me is got thinking about, you know, you have to really put the Think about what we're putting in, we should eat, to live not live to eat. Another revelation that I had is we went up to our little favorite restaurant and we had some chips in a margarita. And after we got through, I'm like, Well, why did we even go up there? We could have ate, you know, we could have ate or drank at home, we went up there for the experience, I could have had the same experience with Terry sit down patio with a glass of water, and no chips. And so, again, I'm not great at this, but I'm trying to rethink this about it, what it does, it's not about what you're eating as much as the company you're with, and the spot that you're in, that we can enjoy that and still eat good food.   Dr. Lori  36:36 That's and that's what makes it so complicated. There's no easy answer, like I love when they make quotes, you know, because I mean, I do have a, quote, weight loss program that I offer. And, you know, you always hear Oh, diets don't work. And I love to argue that point. I'm like, Listen, if they didn't people, people lose weight when they're on a diet they do. But what you need to say is that they're not sustainable. And that's true, you know, we know that. So it's like, so don't say they don't work they do. I mean, otherwise, people wouldn't be using them because people lose weight on them all the time. But it's, um, we just, we're so hell bent on, you know, Oh, I got to lose the weight. Because, you know, for Vanity Fair, but and that's fine. That's fine. I think over the years, what we've done, though, is that, you know, my parents generation, they just, they just wanted to live long, you know, it's like, because, because back then their parents didn't live long. So it's like, so they, they were like, We just, we just want to live to a certain age. So instead of dying and 60, we want to be able to live to be 80. Okay, and so that when they got their wish, you know, people were living that long. You know, I mean, my Actually, my grandmother lived, she was almost 107. You know, sorry, I'm sorry, take that back. We wait, I think that back 97. But all our faculties like, she wasn't even on medication. And so So, but now it's like, okay, that's not just enough anymore. You know, I mean, I said, I think right before we got started, how old my kids are and like, so my kids are, you know, 2717 and seven. I'm 5151 and a half actually, you know, so you do the calculations. And I when my youngest one graduates high school, because I just had one the graduated high school in June. But when my youngest graduated high school, I don't want people to go up to her and say, Oh, is this your grandmother? You know, actually, what I want them to say is, Oh, is this your sister, you know, like, that's what I want. And so I so now it's okay, I it's not good enough, just for me to live long. I want to, I want to enjoy every moment of my life, and be active and participating and not be a burden on my children and or society I want to so that means that I have to do what it takes for me, you know, I it's we're we're always looking outward, oh, if I don't, if I don't look young, I'll go to the plastic surgeon. Or I'll get this procedure done or something. If I if I don't feel good, I'm going to go and get you know, gastric bypass if I'm too overweight, because I don't work. Nobody wants put in the work. You know, and you never had a problem put in the work getting this way. Like that's the funny part because it was enjoyable, you know? But you're like, Okay, you can't expect nothing to happen. Again, it's the same thing that I've said before. It's like people are shocked when the doctor says, Oh, you have to go on medication for this or that. You know, I remember years ago, my you know, my ex his family has a history of heart disease and diabetes, you know, and, and he's always been overweight, and I was overweight as well. But luckily for me, the overweight didn't go to any type of morbidity, but he was in his late 30s. And he comes home and he was all bad. He goes, You never believe what the doctor said to me. And I'm like, what he goes, I have to go on high blood pressure meds. My blood pressure is elevated. I'm like, You got to be kidding me. And he's like, he said, lose the weight. Because you're fat, lose weight and you want to go on the medic, the medication. He's like, could you believe he said That's me and I started laughing. I'm not good. I'm glad he said that to you. Because you because you are like you are and we're afraid of the F word. And God forbid, we say that f word we don't we don't want the doctors get in trouble for saying it. Oh, man, I'm sensitive. And this is what I say. nobody's saying you don't look beautiful, everybody looks beautiful the way they are, I don't care. I don't care how big how small they are. It's not about that. It's about your health, right. And if body fat equals disease, which it does, that increases your risk of certain diseases, and you lose the ones that are really common in this country. If excess body fat increases your risk, then get rid of the excess body fat, right? And then you won't be you don't have to worry about going on meds, you don't have to be sick or whatever, you know, his mother just passed away. She was only by she was 72. And she had she had diabetes for years. And she died in October. And because she had been in the hospital, the whole entire summer since the summer she was in the hospital, because of the advanced stage of her diabetes, and her kidneys started shutting down. And, and I actually, I was surprised that she lasted as long as she did, you know, because she was in and out of the hospital for last four years. So, to me that's not quality. That's not that's not okay. Like I want, you know, if my kids want to if my grandkids someday, you know, Sue and want to be climbing up on the, you know, the the playscape outside, I'm going to be climbing on there with them. You know, I don't I don't want to be saying oh my god, my back hurts. I can't do that. You know? So it's a choice. It's a choice. And it's and I'm not saying it's an easy choice. You know, it's there are those moments where you're like, Cookie looks really good. You know? And it's like, and then you say, Okay, well, if I haven't had the cookie, you know why I haven't eaten this poorly in a while. Can I have it? You know, bless those people who are avid, I mean, I gotta tell you like that are clean dieters 100%. Every single day. I'll admit it, that's not me. I you know, it's, I would say 96% of the time. I am. But there's always those moments, and, but I go in with an awareness knowing Okay, I know that if I eat this, or I drink this, there's probably gonna be consequences to pay, and I'm gonna just, I'm gonna have to live with that. And then I'm gonna have to take it easy. And not do that again for a while. barring a   Terry  42:28 death sentence from your physician. How you get going, how do you keep going? What's the sustainability secret? Help me, Laurie. Help me to call you baby. I'm gonna call you baby for baby. That sounds good.   Dr. Lori  42:44 So first off, you have to want to that's the number one like you can't nobody can ever talk you into doing anything unless you really want to, like if you if there's the want there. And and so you're right. It's usually we do get that done sentence. That's what gives us the push, or some people not even anymore. Some people just don't even care. They're like, I don't whatever. But it's you have to you have to have your wants. So you have to think of it emotionally, mentally, physically, physiologically, like, Okay, how am I feeling? I want my How do I look? You know, throw it all in there the login when people say, well, it's not about vanity, listen, it is for me, it was you know, like, I'm, I'm 51 I want to not just lose the weight because it's better for my health. I want to look damn good. Like, I want to, you know, I want to I want to be, I mean, it's not like I didn't feel sexy, being overweight, but I feel a lot sexier that I lost 40 pounds, I gotta tell you, you know, it's a heck of a lot more fun buying clothes. So you just have to say, okay, just let's go through the whole thing. The more emotional connection you put, the more meaning you put to it, the more successful you'll be. Okay, so then you say, all right, so emotionally, mentally, and physically in Visio, I'm connected, I want to do this. But your body will fight. You know, your subconscious brain will kick in. This is what you saw. And this was funny, because I did some training with Dr. Joe dispenza. And I highly rated he's fabulous. And, and, and he felt it so remarkably well and so easy. It is what he says. He says, You have two conversations with the subconscious and the conscious, you know, and the body is attached to the subconscious. That's the autopilot body does everything you know, that's why you just grab, you know, the food and you just put in your mouth before you thought about it. Right. So this, this is what the body does. The body says, Oh, you want to change? Alright, I'll, you know, I'll humor you for now. You know, that's fine. We'll change we'll get up in the morning at 5am we'll go workout and I don't really like it, but we'll do it. Because in the back of the body's going it'll give them a week. You know, that'd be Yeah, you know, and, and then we'll we'll we'll get our way. And that's exactly what happens. Because every day it gets a little harder and a little harder and a little harder. And then when we get into it. So if you say I'm going to get up at 5am and I'm gonna go work out and I'm going to meditate and I'm going to do all these things and then they learn goes off you go, I'm gonna hit the snooze for five minutes. Then somebody goes, yes, we're already winning. Like we're already winning the app. We got the snooze and tomorrow be longer snooze. And then then tomorrow, we'll just say, Well, I won't do it tomorrow. today. I'll take a break. I did so well, that and then and then the body goes against Yes. Because here's the deal. It's not that the body doesn't like you. The body's just following what you told it to do all those years ago. The body's saying, well, you said we didn't have to get up. You said we didn't have to exercise. You said you didn't mind looking like this. You said you'd like to eating this stuff? Why are you changing now? So when somebody pulls out the numbers I love and they pull the numbers and they go, Oh, it takes 90 days to break a habit. Oh, it takes there's if you Google is there's like, so many days, this is the real this is what it takes. It takes anywhere between a week and a year to break a habit. Wow, some are easier than others. It just depends. But the point is, is that when you get the resistance, and this is answering your question, Terry, the once you do get started, you need accountability. You need people to help you be accountable. You can't do it alone. It's just it food is addictive. But it's also necessary, we need to eat it, you know, it's like an alcoholic alcoholic has people to back them up, they have a sponsor, they have they don't have to have it in the house. But how do you tell that to somebody who you have to have food in the house. Like you can't just leave the food out and go, I'm not buying any of those anymore, you know, but so you need you need multiple accountability partners, you need somebody that's that's going to be able to answer the phone in the middle of the night. And or if you get up really early, or if I'm going through this. And you can't just rely on one sponsor like, quote, sponsor for you. So you have to, you have to go in and announce to everybody around you. This is what I want, I want to eat this way. Now I want to look this way, I want to weigh this, I want to have this amount of body fat. The reason you have to tell them all that is because they're also very used to you as you are, and it's uncomfortable for them for you to change. So if all of a sudden, like especially mother's wedding, you're not eating this, you know, it's like an insult like me, that's the mentality now what do you do about you eat more? And I don't want it I'm watching my Well, what are you talking about? You know, so you have to also announce it to them and say, I really, really need your support on that. So so and if you can't be there to support me, just don't don't dangle it in front of me. You know, don't enable me. So it's a lot of conversation, a lot of communication, a lot of writing things down. And it's everything to redirect redirect your mind so that you don't do it notes everywhere. Don't eat this. Don't eat this. Don't buy this, you know. And like that that mindlessness   Roy Barker  47:49 that Be mindful about it. Yeah, it's hard. You just got to slow down. Because I'm so that way, you know, you wake up or not wake up. But you know, you kind of come to like, Oh, I just ate this whole bagel stuff I wasn't supposed to eat. And you're so right on the habits that, you know, you have the best of intentions, but it just takes time. It takes sometimes a lot of time and a lot of effort and a lot of willpower.   Terry  48:15 Well, and when we talk to you the first time I have Joe dispenza this book that you have listed what it is even the habits, breaking the habit of being yourself. Yeah, I can't even think it's sitting right there on my nightstand. What a great, fabulous. It is. I mean, you know, it's good. I'm not finished with it, but I have it there and I've started it and and I am expecting great things. And I will share it with Roy. But I do share I mean, you know, he'll be reading something else. And I'll be Hey, you're saying this and he's like I'm trying to read. But he you know, we've heard his name thrown around a lot. So there's something to what is coming out of his mouth and from his pen.   Dr. Lori  49:01 He is and I recommend it to your your audience. And to both of you. It's the three the there's the three amigos they're called it's Dr. Joe dispenza. It's Dr. Bruce Lipton. And it's Gregg Braden. And Gregg Braden is more of the spiritual but it's still the mindset just like Joe's talks about Joe was more of those science meditation guy and then Dr. Bruce lips Lipton is the epi genetic sky. And he's the one talking about how you can literally rewrite your genes and you know you we all have these we all have the markers, the quote, I love when when doctors say stuff like that, oh, we have the marker you you're gonna you have a family history of diabetes and heart disease. So you have the genetics for it. So you're gonna get it. And it's like so what epigenetics and this is the total science you know, this epi genetic says they're there, but something turns them on. And once they're turned on, then Then the disease process, wolves will start. And if you can turn them on, then you should be able to turn them off. And the way we turn them on is through our lifestyle. It's our eating, it's our stress level, that's our lack of sleep. And after, that's why most kids are born, you know, they're not born or they don't develop diabetes. And when I say that, we're talking about type two diabetes, we're talking about adult onset. They know they're not born with that, if they're going to be born born with or get diabetes, when they're children. It's type one, and it's a different entity, but we're talking about they don't they are born with atherosclerosis, and they don't develop it at five, you know, this is years of living our life, you know, it's a lifestyle. So, so when you look at a newborn, and you look at or a three year olds, and if you look at that kid and say, Oh, well, you have the genetics for that. So, you know, Michael, put you on the meds now, or, you know, something stupid like that, but, but the reason we can prevent it, or why is it that people have a heart attack? And that's their wake up call. And then they massively change their, their, their diet, and they start exercising, they start running. And next, you know, they're running, they've slimmed down. They're off their meds. And they're running marathons. Like what How is that possible? Because that's the way the body works. We can reverse things with it unless we get so so bad. Right? But it's that's why then some people just give up on they'll say ads too late. It's never too late. Again, it's about you know, it's the expression. If, if it's important to you, you'll find a way If not, you'll find an excuse, right, and that and that's what it is.   Terry  51:41 So true. That is so true. Oh,   Roy Barker  51:44 I was gonna ask you. I know, we've talked about a lot of things. And we're getting short on time. But can you talk about your seven core pillars of alignment? Or? Yes? And no, what we'll have to do is get you to come back on we could talk about that.   Dr. Lori  51:59 Yeah, no, I'll talk really quick about them. So it's seven, it's, it's when you're looking at aligning with your like, being in living the healthy life living an abundant life. If you if you don't address all these things, then there will always be something missing, you'll always be off, you'll be misaligned in that way. So what it is, is it's your mental, being, your emotional being, your physical being, your physiological being mean, and how you function. You're about how your body functions, your spiritual being, and your social being, and then your financial being. And, you know, you could be in the greatest health and in the best shape, and you eat well and you meditate, but your finances stink, that's going to add stress. And that's going to prevent you from doing the things that you want to do. And that's going to take its toll and so, so when you when you work on every single one of those pieces, that's when that's, that's how you're going to live an abundant life. And, and we're not saying that you you have to have all these things, and you know, all these tangible items, it's just a matter of just what's important to you. So when you're you and you have to define each of those for yourself, but work towards all of them, you know, so and then they do come and steps. That's why that's why it's it's interesting, when people lose a lot of weight. You know, they'll get divorced sometimes because they've transformed their body, but they also transform their their themselves. And, and they don't know why they're like, I don't know why, like, I don't want to be with this person anymore, that my my significant other doesn't want to be with me anymore. Because I lost the weight. But don't worry, they'll get meaner because they get angry, they get so angry that they didn't do this sooner, or they're just different. Or they're it's also the same reason why people fail at it and gain the weight back because the weight loss the physical change, and the physiological change. Their mental and emotional states weren't prepared for it. Interesting like when somebody wins the lotto, you know, when they win the lottery, they The reason they a lot of them loses like it's really crazy statistic, it's like 85% who win the lottery are right back to where they were within a five to 10 year mark or something like that. Because they didn't change their mindset. They didn't there was an a mental emotional connection to the lack of money or the maybe not lack but the the middle class or whatever they were class they were in, that they couldn't fit into the all of a sudden I have all this money, and they couldn't make it happen. So that's, that's where that came up with and that really came up. It's not like I mean, there's all types you'll hear for there's four things or six things or that but this was really specific to what I noticed about my growth and and it does align with other what other people say but that's just my those are the seven and you can do all of those things. But if if you don't have the social element It's a moot point if you so any one of them, if they're not, if you don't feel like completely aligned or authentic, you know, that's the other piece of that you're aligning with your authentic self. So if you don't feel that that's you're resonating with each of those pillars for who you are in a positive way, then you'll need the work like you know, and it doesn't matter who you get the work from, it's just you got to do the work, you know?   Terry  55:28 Well, and you said you said also we you also have a victor fat wellness program, I wanted you to talk about a little bit about that too. On a note work   Dr. Lori  55:40 time time. Crunch. It's it's a six week program. And it's it's based off the the chirothin weight loss program, which is a chiropractic program. It's only   Roy Barker  55:55 Oh, no. Can you still hear me? Can you hear me?   Terry  56:14 Okay, sorry about that.   Roy Barker  56:16 went away at the chiropractic chirothin   Terry  56:19 carrier.   Dr. Lori  56:20 So the chirothin program is a it's a it's a six week weight loss program marketed specifically to chiropractors. And it's, it's a combination of supplements and eating have like a eating protocol, you know, intermittent fasting, cutting certain things out elimination protocol, so certain foods, you don't eat you. And minimal exercise. Like there's there's specific exercises that you do. But what I added to mine, that's why quality, like the fat program is that it I added to the coaching piece, because, you know, you can get people to go on this. But listen, I went on it the first time and I cheated myself. So it's like, the so I'm like, I can't get to be accountable here. You know, I'm supposed to be the doc, you know. So I did it, wipe package it one day, and I said, I'm gonna just put some group coaching sessions with it, and I'm gonna go on it myself with the group. And that's how I lost the 40 pounds. And I did it from like, mid June to the beginning of November, November, I lost 40 pounds. But, um, and it's, it's great, you know, and it's really, it's marketed as a weight loss program, but it's a it's really an anti inflammatory elimination protocol, you know, and then you just sort of eat that from that point going forward. And I mean, you feel fabulous after I mean, the weight loss is like a side effect that we say it's but but I have people getting off meds, lowering meds. You know, having been diagnosed with autoimmune diseases, where it's either went into remission, or their symptoms are a lot less. So. I mean, in the end, that's what it's really all about.   Roy Barker  58:01 Wow. All right. Well, we're gonna get you to promise to come back and see us there's so much more we could talk for hours, we know that, you know, you have a fun place to go to. And have to watch but better be careful what I eat and drink there. So I have to go to a party.   Terry  58:18 Yeah, that's kind of a downer after you've had your discussion with us. And yeah.   Roy Barker  58:23 So what is a habit or a tool, what's something that you do every day in your life that you feel adds a lot of value professional or personal.   Dr. Lori  58:33 I live I am a mindfulness practice person. I'm, that's, that's what I do. I don't if I if I don't do it in the morning, which I my intention is always to do something like a meditation breathing, you know, manifesting, I will do it throughout the day. But gratitude is probably the biggest piece for me. I really through all throughout my day, different times, I will talk, you know, think about what I'm grateful for, say it out loud, something comes up and I'm like, wow, I'm really grateful for this, you know, and it's it's such a game changer. And you know, even even when it's a bad situation, and what about you know, what, what can I learn from this what, so I'm going to be grateful for this piece. And I always feel worse when I don't do it. Like if I notice that I'm in a bad mood. I have to think back and go when was last time I said, you know, maybe it was like in the morning and it's like all day. Okay, that's it, then what am i grateful for right now? I'm really grateful. I'm like, I'm grateful for moments like this to be able to speak and share my knowledge, you know?   Roy Barker  59:37 Well, we were grateful that you took time out of your day to be here too. We are and I think that is awesome. You know, we no matter how bad things are, there's usually somebody that's got things a lot worse than we'll ever know. So just being thankful for being able to have some sunshine in our day or whatever, you know, other positive things are going on. Sometimes just to live through a day is granted. Do that dude. All right, Dr. Laurie will tell everybody you know, who do you like to work with how you can help them? And of course, how can they reach out and get a hold of you?   Dr. Lori  1:00:12 So you could reach out to me I have a website, Dr. Laurie Monaco calm. I'm also on Facebook and LinkedIn for the same under the same name Dr. Laurie Monaco, Instagram, I am the badass Buta one. And let's see Tick tock, the badass Buddha and I also have YouTube I view to channel Viva coffee cola chain, Dr. Laurie Monaco, I work with I really love working especially with people who are really new new coaching that have never really coached before that are have that idea that they're really not worth it, or they they're stuck or they have depression or anxiety. I do work with men and women, I guess I tend to work with women more so. But that's not that just just the way it is sometimes. And I do work with teens and younger, but I think vast majority of my people are like in their 20s and up. But it's it's for people that really, you know, I'm I'm a cheerleader. I'm I'm in your face. I'm you know, I but I'm also your biggest fan like I you know that and that's, I think, you know, I met I balanced between loving and and pushing without enabling. And so for anybody who feels like they just think maybe they can't work with a coach that's so hardcore, or, you know, is is too regimented. I'm regimented, but I have a whole way of like my regimen. So but it works. It works really well. So,   Terry  1:01:45 okay, the BB regimen.   Roy Barker  1:01:47 Yes, the DB DB. All right, we all reach out to Dr. Lori, see how she can help you. I mean, a lot of great stuff. Thank you so much. Again, great conversation. And we'll get you back on we can go into a little bit more of this stuff more in day. Thanks, Ray. Thanks, Terry for having me on. And thanks for for listening to me today. Well, that's gonna do it for another episode of the feeding fatty podcast. I'm Roy. I'm telling you can find us at www dot feeding fatty.com we're on all the major podcast platforms, iTunes, Stitcher, Google Spotify. If we're not on one that you listen to please reach out I'd be glad to get it added to make your listening easier. Also, we're on all the major social media platforms tend to hang out probably more on Instagram. And we will put up a video of this interview when it goes live. So go over to the YouTube channel and check that out. So until next time, take care of yourself and take care of your health.   www.drlorimonaco.com www.feedingfatty.com

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JUDGE JOE BROWN chats with DR. GEORGE C. FRASER and DR. BOYCE WATKINS .. . LEADERSHIP (Eldership), WEALTH and TOXIC REPRESENTATION

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Feeding Fatty
When Conventional Medicine Was No Help, This Mother Jumped Into Action

Feeding Fatty

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 9, 2021 65:39


When Conventional Medicine Was No Help, This Mother Jumped Into Action Featuring Amy White Is your body working with you or against you? It's not hard to tell. How do you feel? We need to listen to what our bodies are trying to tell us. When we don't listen, sometimes the only option is to have a major malfunction of some type. We also should be comfortable in our own skin. Its never too late to make needed changes in your diet, sleeping, exercise About Amy Amy White is a board-certified holistic nutritionist and functional nutrition and lifestyle practitioner. She has been working as a nutritionist, health & weight loss coach for over 12 years. Throughout this time Amy has come to understand that most health and body weight frustration is often a simple body communication problem. Once proper communication with the body is restored excellent health and a happy body weight become the natural result of living and enjoying everyday life. My work is more than food. It's really about lifestyle choices and learning how to eat for the health and body you want. I believe it's important to really understand inputs beyond food that impact overall wellness. Things like, sleep, fasting, protein, movement/exercise, self-talk and for a lot of my client base (over 50) embracing age as number and taking responsibility for the quality of your life. www.thesimplicityofwellness.com www.feedingfatty.com Full Transcript Below When Conventional Medicine Was No Help, This Mother Jumped Into Action Featuring Amy White Fri, 7/23 3:08PM • 31:44 SUMMARY KEYWORDS body, eat, people, thought, food, health, happening, sugars, feel, gut, doctor, inflamed, functional medicine, processed, headache, point, bad, guess, learned, late 30s SPEAKERS Amy, Terry, Roy Barker   Roy Barker  00:00 Hello, and welcome to another episode of Feeding Fatty.   Terry  00:06 I'm your host, Roy and Terry.   Roy Barker  00:07 So we are the podcast chronicling our journey through wellness. It can include you know, what, what we intake as far as food, our exercise our movement, you know, I've, there's a lot of difference between moving and exercising. And so movement is a good point to talk about with that, but also our mindset, we a lot of times we know what we need to do, it's just doing it and it's being sustainable. So those are the things that we'd like to talk about. And we also have, you know, professionals in the field on. And so we're lucky we have Amy White with us today, Terry, I'll let you introduce Amy.   Terry  00:35 Yeah, Amy White is a Board Certified Holistic Nutritionist and Functional Nutrition and lifestyle practitioner. She's been working as a nutritionist, health, health and weight loss coach for over 12 years. Throughout this time, she's come to understand that most health and body weight frustration is often a simple body communication problem. Once proper communication with the body is restored. excellent health and happy body weight becomes the natural result of living and enjoying everyday life. Amy, welcome to the show, I want to talk about this communication with your body. Yeah, and how did you find yourself in this realm of nutrition and coaching and all of that?   Amy  01:13 Well, I'm so I'm currently in my mid 50s. And I entered this area in my late 30s, really early 40s. And it was, you know, just like most people's stories, it was a family health issue, not mine, but my daughter's. And so I got into nutrition actually, because of gut health. So she had some gut gut issues. And we were we were unfortunately found ourselves in a position where the conventional medical community didn't seem to be able to help. And so then it was just kind of like, I'm one of those people that you know, once I tug on a thread, if I can't find the answer, I just have to keep digging. And she was she was getting ready to go to college, and she had digestive issues her entire life. And at this point, right, she's now like 16. And I'm thinking we should probably fix this. I'm such a good mom, let's wait 16 years to dig into this. So we did and we actually went and had a gastro enthrall just do a whole scope and see what was going on in there. And she basically said, Oh, she's fine. And I just kind of like he is because she's really not, you know, we go out to dinner at a restaurant and she ends up leaving the table and going outside and sitting on the curb. Because she feels so bad. And she's got this pressure and whatever. Wow. So the doc was like, Yeah, no, no, she's fine. She doesn't even have reflux or esophagus is beautiful. And we've been told she had reflux, and she was one month old. So that was actually nice to know. And but as the doctor was leaving the recovery room, she turned around and she said, Oh, I mean, her small intestine is red and inflamed. But that's really nothing to worry about. And then she left. And I thought, that seems like something to worry about. But I had new zero at this point. And I was completely we were living in Chicago at the time. And I was complaining some our girlfriends, I'm like, I don't know, and I'm sure we've all been there. But this was the first time in my life was in this position where I sought the expert looked for the answer and didn't get an answer. And then I had no idea who to ask where to turn. It was just it was very scary and frustrating. And so many people stop at that after they hear their so called expert. I mean, not that they're, you know, medical experts and all that they just stop. Yeah, but you were a woman on a mission. I'm sorry. Well, I literally thought I was stopped. I was just like, Oh, I guess I don't know. But I was very uncomfortable with that. It just felt bad. And so I was complaining. And one of my girlfriends said, Oh, you need to go see this nutritionist. And I literally was like, I don't even know what that is. But I'm in. And so that's where I got introduced to this idea of nutritionists. And I was like, hold on. And so she made one tiny dietary change. She I mean, we saw her once she said do this, which was all she told my daughter to do was stop eating gluten. I mean, you know, and back then it was like, Oh, the gluten thing. And so we did so we left the office and we went to Whole Foods and bought everything that said gluten free, which again, I don't recommend, but at the time, that's all we knew. And but you know what, even just doing that two weeks, my daughter, everything changed. It was a little freaky. And I thought Hold on a second. This is like magical. And so I started reading everything I could find about food and the body and I find We looked at my husband, my daughter ended up leaving for college and I looked at my husband and I said, I am out of things to read, I've run out. So I said, I'm going to take, I guess I'm going to start a program because they will have a reading list. So I inevitably ended up joining or getting into a new master's program for nutrition. And I had looked at, we were in again in Chicago, so I looked at the local universities and what they offered, and I was reading the syllabus, and I thought, you know, this is kind of exactly what I don't believe anymore. So it was more conventional. And I thought I don't, there's got to be something else. Because this is this. This is what I've learned from that nutritionist and what I've learned in my reading, and then I stumbled on holistic nutrition. And that's when I was like, Oh, this is it. This is what I've been looking for. And so that is the program, I got my master's in and then became board certified in that. And then went on to get certified as a functional nutritionist. So using functional medicine frameworks and things like that with patients and clients. Yeah. So it's Yeah, so that's, anyway, that's what happened or how it got started. Yeah, it's interesting. Anytime somebody says red inflamed, and that's in the conversation, I mean, it's just kind of mind boggling. At the very least, if it wasn't a big deal, you would think that that would have been part of the larger conversation, like we see this, it's okay. But, you know, anyway, it's, we I guess that's the other good lesson from that is, you know, we have to actually invest in ourselves. And even if we hear something from, you know, somebody that's educated, we're all human, we all make mistakes. So, investing that time in our own health is, as youth proven very well worth it. And they may not know, I mean, you know, they may not know if it's a traditional type ration, they may not know, to, to tell you to go somewhere else to get more information. I mean, why is it red? Why is it plain. And I, I've since learned, you know, that she was really on the road to sort of celiac. So what was happening was those micro villi in her small intestine, were just getting rubbed down and beaten down. And if we hadn't intervened, it's very likely that she could be much sicker now or that she wouldn't be. And so we were lucky to be able to get in there and kind of hope that when we did, and but you just intuitively, I think you kind of know if something feels right or wrong, like if someone says something, and just intuitively you can kind of go, Yeah, I don't think I don't. Yeah, that doesn't feel right. So saying retina inflamed, like you said, isn't an issue didn't feel right. You know, it's just like, that   Terry  05:51 sounds weird. And   Roy Barker  05:51 that's not that doesn't usually come after the Oh, by the way. Yeah, it was a very surreal experience. Well, we're glad she is back. To be unhealthy. And you know, what, that's one thing. That's, that's why we love this show is because, you know, we, I think we started it just because of the accountability and actually to just let other people know that you're not alone. And when you're, you know, whatever you're going through, somebody else is going through it, maybe there's some helping community. But it's been amazing the stuff that we have learned. You know, and I think this is another big area that we've kind of learned, we've learned enough about just to know what it matters is that gut health that so many things, start in our guts, you know, our brain health, a lot of the, you know, I guess, the release of chemicals, and endorphins and things like that, but it's a very important part of our wellness, but traditionally, you just don't hear much about it.   Terry  06:42 Well, your your our immune system is housed down there in our gut. So really overall health, it is going to have to start in the gut. And so many people don't consider gut health because they don't have gas and bloating, or constipation or diarrhea. They maybe they have anxiety or depression, excessive levels of stress, migraine headaches, but they don't associate that with their food. And so it's really interesting to help people understand there's it's it's quite a wide range of things that you can feel if your gut is out of balance.   Amy  07:08 And you could kind of if you don't mind, you can kind of educate us a little bit because, you know, we have got a couple of functional providers that we have talked to before. And so I guess what kind of tell us the the difference in the holistic and the functional and traditional because I feel like the functional makes an effort to get to the root of it. Not like oh man, I've got a bad headache. Okay, here's an aspirin. But more of the question of what is the underlying issue causing this headache For sure, so root cause protocols is what they call in functional medicine. So you're kind of looking at the symptom. So the thing that somebody is complaining about, and then you're like, Okay, well, you can take an acid, and that will stop the immediate pain. But why are you having the pain? So that's what functional medicine is doing. It's, it's a very curious place to be, you know, you're just very fascinated and curious with what's happening. And ideally, you want the patient or client to become as fascinated by their own body, you know, so they start to ask those questions. So what's causing that? So that would be the functional aspect, right? We want to get to the root cause and stop, stop the symptom from happening. The holistic part as with functional medicine, and this is only my interpretation, but its whole body health. And so with holistic, everything is so synergistic. So again, it's not just food, it's food, it's sleep. It's body movement, it's detoxification, so much everything that's going on in the body, and it's all synergistic. And so that's kind of the holistic approach is how do we make everything kind of work together? And so that, to me, that traditional conventional approach has sort of, in my mind shifted to more of that. band aids, right? So we take this pill, and then we take this pill, counteract the effects of that pill, and it's just sort of masking the root problem. So yeah, so that's kind of were kind of how I think about it. We had a guy on, we haven't aired the episode yet, but we had Dr. Robert Yoho, on that, talk to us the other day about the the amount of revenue that doctors make off of prescriptions, and it's unbelievable, really, I guess, I never, I knew that they probably had some incentives, but I didn't realize that, you know, some of them could be as much as it was. So it was almost a disincentive. I'd rather keep giving you the aspirin for a headache, because I'm making a little money off that. If I were to actually cure you, then, you know, where's my income stream. And I know, not all, all traditional doctors are that way. But definitely, it's a conflict. It's scary. If you let your head go there, because you can spiral and just be like, Wait a second, you know, and it's so it is a little scary. I remember, way back when I had first started in my holistic nutrition program, and I was talking to a friend of mine, and one of her kids, her little kids was having some gut issues and some problems. And so we were chatting about this, that, you know, I don't know what they were eating. And I something they were just eating traditional American foods, so cereal, and, you know, granola bars and whatever. And I said, I, you know, I, I think you might want to adjust what they're having, or somehow we got onto food. And she said, Listen, there's no way that there's food in the grocery store that is going to be harmful and dangerous to us, because there's no way the government would allow that to happen. And I just remember just sort of, like, almost just I was speechless, because I thought, Oh, my gosh, people actually believe that. And I but they don't really care about our health. That's not what's going on, you know, in the store, when with most foods there is our health isn't the focus, it's money. There. It's a business and, and so I thought that was so eye opening. This is a this is a woman who's incredibly edgy, she's well educated, she's a lawyer, she you know, and I thought, wow, I just so that was sort of eye opening, and it kind of helped me understand. Maybe we're most people's perspective is   Roy Barker  10:17 Right, right.   Amy  10:18 That's so true. Oh my gosh, so many people do think about that, and many things, but especially with the food aspect of why our government would allow people to poison us. Yeah. Yeah, and even like with the things that do come up with, you know, meat or whatever, it's just that there's not enough people also to to monitor every action of every manufacturer. And so sometimes, even if it perceived to be okay, you know, things can go wrong in the process to make it really not bad. And fortunately, until people start coming in to a doctor and report it, we just don't know about that. Right? So I'm a big advocate for people really taking the time to notice how they feel, right? If something's going to make someone else feel great, whereas it's going to make someone else feel terrible. So you just have to really start to we say you need to sort of, you know, put your detectives cap on and just really like, does this make me feel better? Does this make me feel worse? Yeah. You know, it may be totally different for my husband and my kids, but each one of you are going to have a different reaction. But you have to take the time to if you care, and maybe you aren't feeling as good as you think you can feel then you need to take that time to just say, Hmm, yeah, this works for me, and this doesn't, and it's maybe journal it. Yeah. And I definitely have had clients who have said no It never occurred to me to think about how the food I eat made me feel. And then once they did, they were shocked to realize, Oh, I have choices here, I actually don't have to eat these things if they make me feel terrible. And that's when sort of things start to change.   Roy Barker  11:35 I guess that's part of the communication that we were taught. I think Terry was asking about that, in your intro, you know, the communication, the simple body communication is a problem.   Terry  11:46 Yeah, what is that,   Amy  11:47 so, so remember, food, is just information. And it's how we communicate with the body. So when we, we tell them, we want something from our body, we want to, you know, have excellent health, great energy, we want to sleep well, we want to fit into our, you know, ideal size of clothing, you know, whatever it is, we need to use food to tell the body specifically what it is that we really need from it. And so I think of the body as this, you know, kind of obedient three year old, that takes everything very literally. So you have to be very careful about what you're saying, because it's going to do what you tell it to do. And so when I was back in my late 30s, and I was putting on weight, and I was uncomfortable, and I was achy. And I was always in a bad mood. And just it was that it was it was horrible. I thought I was telling my body, I really want to sleep while I want great energy, I really want to, you know, drop some weight and feel good again, but really, by what I was eating, I was telling my body, we're going to sit very quietly, we're not going to have any energy, so we're going to definitely want to not move. And then we're going to want to pack on a lot of extra fat. And hold on to that, you know, so that was what I was telling my body based again, based on the what I was eating, which was a lot of processed manufactured carbohydrates. And because I was trying to not eat too much me and I was trying to avoid fats and you know, so I was, you know, eating things that said fat free and low calorie and, but they weren't, they weren't telling my body the right message. Because they, because they were so processed and manufactured and everything came in a little, you know, single serve baggie, or this that or in this little, you know, you know, throw it in the microwave dinner, you know, perfect size. It wasn't it really matters what you choose to eat. And so, this is getting a little confusing, but there's another term that I learned along the way, and it was called metabolic debt. And I love this. So again, I was approaching 40, I had pretty much spent the 20 years prior eating, doing whatever I wanted. And for the most part, my body compensated, and I was okay. But then all of a sudden, in my mid 30s, my body sort of stopped holding it together for me, which is I basically my metabolic debt from all of the previous years had kind of caught up with me and my body was like, I can't, I can't mask this anymore. I can't do it. This is really what's going on. And so I was metabolically very out of balance. My blood sugar's were really high, it was complete sugar addict. I'm sure my insulin was high. I didn't know at that time that you could even test insulin. I didn't know what it was. But based on what was going on with my body, those were the signs that's where I was headed, wasn't sleeping, well, it no energy. Man, I was such a cranky monster too, is I wasn't fun to be around. And so anyway, at once we went through this whole thing with my daughter and I learned about food as magic. I also learned Oh, hold on a second, I need to eat in a different way to tell my body a different story. And so once I started shifting what I was eating, and I got off the process carbohydrates and a cut way down on the on the sugars, and I use, you know, carbohydrate as an umbrella term for sugars. So less grains, less, you know, all of that stuff. And then my body started responding completely differently. And that's when all of a sudden might come body composition started to change again, and I started getting you know, heading. So now at 54 I am in way better shape than I was at 37 not just shape, but my health is better, my energy is better, I sleep better. All of those metrics are so, so much better. If this is who I had been when I was 37 I would have been so happy. So you're myself and everything you're saying I mean because in your 30 you know you're maybe you're raising your kids doing what you can for your family, you just kind of whatever you can get to eat quick and easy for you and your kids. So everybody's eating all the processed everything going through the drive thru is all of that and then You have all these aches and pains and headaches and oh my gosh, and I put on tons of weight to Yeah. And it's amazing. If you eat the eat the right foods for your body. What can happen is just a whole transformation. And I saw this funny Instagram or tweet yesterday or today and it said, Listen, if you hold off on dinner long enough, everyone will eat cereal. So follow me for more healthy food tips. And I cracked up because I was like, right, that's what you do. Because everyone's so busy. And I thought, ah, and then eat cereal, and it's horrible. But it was so funny, because I'm like, that's so true. So I tend to. So when I was 37, I felt terrible. And it felt like it that was it for me, like the best years were behind me. Because everybody had always said, Oh, you're on a sporty Oh, it just gets worse when she hits 40. And I thought, again, not something I liked. I didn't like it when people said that to me. And so I got a little bit, you know, competitive. I was like, that's not gonna happen, you know that. That's not okay. But yet, then I saw it happening. And I was like, no. And, and so since in the years that I've been doing this, especially with the doctor referred patients that I see, I have had women in their late 30s say to me, I know my best years are behind me, I just don't want it to get worse. I mean, it's okay, but how can I sort of, not gain more weight not have less energy, and I just, if I have to stay here, I'm here, I just don't want it to get worse. And I thought, Oh, it just broke my heart. Because I thought no, if they're not behind you, you have so much ahead of you, but they just kind of had in their own mind given up because they didn't realize that they can completely change how they look how they feel. So that's sort of my mission at this point is to is to impact these women who have spent their life nurturing everyone else. But now they're at this point where their kids are grown up, they're moving out, they have more free time. And you know, they've, they've probably got some money that they can spend on themselves. It's just a point in life, that's actually should be really fun. Because, you know, we're kind of having this second childhood, but we're, you know, we have more wisdom, we have more money, we have more time. And we don't care so much about what everyone else thinks. So it's time to really kind of take charge and kind of embrace that, and be the best version of you. So I just, I don't want to hear another woman or man for that matter. Say, yeah, I just I know, my best years are behind me. And I, you know, I just hope I, you know, I don't know, you know, I don't know what they expect. But,   Roy Barker  22:45 ya know, because this is the best time. You know, it's a, it's a great time in life. But you need to feel good to enjoy that. And to understand that and say, I have my days, you know, still trying to sort all this eating out. But definitely, you know, there are some things that, like you said, talking to you're listening to what your body's telling you. And it's the things I love the most probably but you know, like the chips at the Mexican restaurant and the Margarita. And I don't know what's changed about that. It's my body, but it's like, they put a lot of this heavy syrup in it to vibrate and sweeten it. And that stuff. It just almost makes me ill. I mean, like to the point that it's that next morning when I get up we've talked about this before is that now for maybe two or three hours, it is like my head from my eyes is just full of congestion. It takes me a long time just to get out from under that. And anyway, so you know, like that stuff. I just have to stay away from it. Now there's no   Amy  23:48 Well, it sounds like you've shifted your diet in such a way that you really decrease those extraneous sugars. And so you're much more sensitive to the sugar. Because what I've discovered it's not the tequila. It's actually this like you said, it's the syrup. Yeah, and your body's now having this huge hit from the sugar and it's going Wait a second. We don't do this anymore. And now you're actually wreck I said this to somebody recently, too. I said, How cool is that? that your body is letting you recognize how inflammatory those sugars are. Oh, look what it's doing. Yeah,   Terry  24:21 that's a great that's a great way to say it. Ah, I mean, it's sometimes I was watching a show a morning show couple days ago and this gal was on there she's she's a health health coach. I'm not sure exactly which specific area but but she was in the gym.     When Conventional Medicine Was No Help, This Mother Jumped Into Action Featuring Amy White Tue, 8/31 6:12PM • 41:04 SUMMARY KEYWORDS eat, protein, diabetic, food, salt, sugar, clients, insulin, vegetables, manage, long, grams, blood pressure medicines, keto, week, person, feel, squash, high blood pressure, day SPEAKERS Amy, Terry, Roy Barker   Roy Barker  00:03 Hello, welcome back to the Feeding Fatty show. I just wanted to wanted to make just a little announcement that we lost power in the initial interview with Amy White. And she has agreed to come back on we're gonna finish the talk. So that's where we're picking up if it seems like it's a kind of a weird segment into this, just wanted to let everybody know exactly why so   Terry  00:27 little choppy?   Roy Barker  00:28 Yeah, yeah. Amy, thanks for taking time to come back. That was awkward.  Oh, yeah. No my pleasure, I just like when the you know, just the power went out. And it was down for about three hours. That night naturally went out a second time. But anyway, we're all good now. So welcome back. Thanks for taking time out of your day. And so I thank you and Terry had a little conversation there going, and we wanted to be sure and capture talking about, I guess, we want to go with the type two diabetic and high blood pressure.   Amy  01:00 Yes. So that is a you see that combination, often that that high blood pressure tends to go along with high insulin, so pre diabetes, type two diabetes, so that whole sort of metabolic imbalance. And I was saying that I have, typically when I work with pre diabetics, so people will come to me because their doctor wants them to go on medication for their pre diabetes, and they're like, I don't want to go on medication. I would rather fix this. And the doctor usually says, Okay, well, let's come back in three months. And which works perfectly, because that's what I like, is 12 weeks. And so they'll come see me and they're like, Can we do this so that I don't have to go on medication. And I'm like, absolutely. So in a matter of 12 weeks, we will basically adjust their diet to manage those metabolic hormones that are high insulin, blood sugar. And and typically in 12 weeks, we see their their labs completely shift to healthy non diabetic labs. So they no longer are showing us pre diabetic so that the doctor is like well, we there's no conversation to have because you're not pre diabetic. Now I've had the opportunity to work with there's a doctor that refers patients to me. And so I have had the opportunity to work with a diagnosed type two diabetic. And, and he was on three blood pressure medicines. And he wanted to manage this. And so he started working with me and again, we did a 12 week window. And as it as a diagnosed type two diabetic, I mean, his labs for really bad, let's say, it's hard to quantify without my numbers in front of me, but not good. And but in 12 weeks, he shifted all of his lab markers to non diabetic lab markers, and better I mean, not even pre diabetic he was again, in all healthy optimal ranges. And, and he felt great, but I was saying one of the things was that he didn't lose a tremendous amount of weight, I think he lost 20 or 25 pounds, which I guess in 12 weeks actually is a lot of weight. But he hadn't probably he would probably have liked to lose another 20 pounds, maybe. But ultimately, he came off all of he was on three blood pressure medicines, and he came off all of that. And but one of the things that's so important, if you're listening to this, if you are on high blood pressure medicine, and you're shifting your diet, you have to have a cough at home, because it happens very quickly, you can start coming off those medications, like within a week. So you have to have a cuff at home. If you're starting to notice that you bent over and you stood up and got dizzy, check your blood pressure might be too low. So you need to make sure you can get through to your doctor and let them know what you're doing so they can adjust your medication. Because Yeah, you don't want to you don't want to be passing out because your blood pressure is now too low.   Roy Barker  03:59 Right? Right. So what were some of the fundamental shifts that y'all made? Yes.   Amy  04:04 Well, you know, for for this particular person, because I knew they were type two diabetic we went in and really attack the sugars in the diet. So where are the sugars coming from? What is it that's keeping his insulin high? Why is his blood sugar so high, so we did have to go in and get real serious about cutting out sugars, and really at that point, anything that converts quickly to sugar. So, you know, starchy vegetables are not bad foods, fruits, not bad foods, and these are all good foods. But if you are already suffering with high insulin and high blood sugar, these foods are not helping. They're just gonna keep your blood sugar high. Once you're healthy and your blood sugar is at a normal level, you can start to reintroduce these foods and see how well you tolerate certain things or you know how much of something you can have before Sort of impacting negatively. And often, depending on how long you've been sick, how long you've been tied to diabetic can reflect how much you're going to be able to reintroduce. So it's been a long time, you often are going to be very carb sensitive, and you may not be able to reintroduce as much as maybe you'd like to.   Roy Barker  05:22 And I know you, we kind of caught you off guard with this topic. So you may not have this right top of mind. But was this was this person a, I don't know how to describe it more like a junk food or candy bar, ice cream eater, or did they have a pretty good diet, it was just the the underlying things that we don't think about, like the fruits and the starchy vegetables that was causing the problem,   Amy  05:51 and a lot of alcohol. So a lot of fruits, this person has tons of fruit trees in their yard. And so they would, you know, do a lot of canning and making fun drinks and with the fruit and baking. And this person was it's also it was also a man, so he also was traveling, so he spent more time out away from home than he was at home. So that's kind of a high stress environment. So he was always traveling. So there was a lot of conferences where he was just eating what was available, going out with clients. So a lot, not necessarily junk food, but maybe more restaurant foods, unhealthy fats, things that you can't control when you're in that kind of an environment. But I think I think a lot of it was, um, there was a lot of alcohol, a lot of fruit. But yeah, there was there was treats and stuff in there. And I know, it was funny, because one of the shifts that this particular person made was over to a lot of cheese. So they sort of took out a lot of the goodies and and ate cheese instead, which can backfire. But at the beginning when you're trying to come off the sugar, it really worked for this particular person. Now in the long run, if you have weight to lose, or want to lose weight, the cheese definitely will, will slow you down or totally can backfire at some point. Same with nuts. So that's usually that's tier two, where we start looking at that kind of stuff. That's the first things first is to break the sugar cravings. So yeah, stop kind of needing the sugars.   Roy Barker  07:34 Well, that's one thing that we kind of figured we were way over doing is cheese. I mean, yeah, it was like there was nothing that   Terry  07:43 dairy in general   Roy Barker  07:44 is just like there was nothing that cheese wouldn't cure, or whatever. But also, for the high blood pressure side, I think a lot of cheeses tend to be high salt. Is that correct?   Amy  07:59 Well, um, yeah, I think there can be salt. But that's one of those interesting things where everybody kind of with high blood pressure, Biggie gets real worried about the sodium. And but you know what, we need salt. So there's been a lot of, I've been reading a lot about salt and how important it is in the body and how it's actually a misnomer to think that with high blood pressure, though, you need to eat less salt. Because there's this, you know, I'm not a salt expert, but it's I definitely push salt on my clients. One of the things if we're stopping the processed foods, then all of a sudden, you aren't eating as much sodium as you think you are. And when your insulin starts to come down, I like to sort of I describe it to my clients, I'm like, when our insulin is high, our kidneys are kind of like clench, they're just like, you know, kind of angry, and then as her insulin comes down, we tend to flush, all of a sudden our kidneys relax, and they start functioning the way they're supposed to function. And we refresh all this fluid. So one of the things you notice when your insulin starts coming down is you have to pee a lot. That's a good sign. But we're flushing all these minerals. And so I'm sure you've heard of the low carb or the keto flu. And this is usually a now they're starting to recognize this as attributed to this mineral imbalance or this electrolyte imbalance. So we're releasing all this sodium and only you only have to have one of the electrolytes out of balance at one of the electrolytes to be low, and that throws them all out of balance. So the one that we tend to pee out is sodium. So you actually need to make sure you're getting enough salt. So I definitely recommend as people are coming off the sugar, lots of pickles, olives, and definitely if you have an electrolyte mix that you like, you know start including that are just adding salt to your water. And you can tell when you need salt because you crave it and it needs No often people are like, Oh, I don't I don't need salt. I don't use salt. I don't salt my food, but theirs are addicted to potato chips. And yeah, so your body wants your salt in this very narrow places balance. And so if you are craving salt you need salt in once you have enough things will start to taste too salty. Yeah. So if you were drinking on the electrolyte drink and you love it, and then one day, you're just like, this is like seawater, you're fine. You don't need any more salt.   Roy Barker  10:30 And that's funny say that because Pringles, you know, that's not a chip of choice. But whenever I start craving Pringles, it's just almost like, you could just lick the salt. Yeah.   Terry  10:42 Absolutely, I try to get the lights.   Amy  10:46 I guess not as good.   Roy Barker  10:49 So in the beginning of this, the, for some of us that have troubles, it would just be probably more like the inline with the keto, just more protein. But the veggies you have to be very selective. And, you know, that's one place where we kind of stumble a little bit because, you know, we, you know, not all vegetables are created equal. And so I guess what are the recommended? Or how do we know, which are the ones that will convert to saw a convert to the sugar?   Amy  11:23 more rapidly? Yeah. So So I love that you said so with this. So if you're in this type two or pre diabetic place, you're sort of leaning more than that keto. So I do think of and I may have said this earlier in the previous conversation, but I do think of sort of dietary principles on this spectrum. And this helps me because when I meet with a client, and we look at where they are, where their health is, and where what their health goals are, you know, health body, it can help me to, you know, determine probably where they're where they should start on that spectrum. So if somebody is coming to me, and they're pre diabetic, or type two diabetic, I am definitely going to start them over here with the keto low carb, because we just have to manage the sugar out of the gate. And so yes, so typically, my recommendation is non starchy vegetables, right? Easy to say, you sit there and go great. What does that mean? So think of crunchy vegetables, think of things you would put in a salad, things that grow above ground, except corn, corns, a starch. So all those sort of above ground vegetables, all your leafy greens, your peppers, and cucumbers, green beans, tomatoes, I include onions, even though they grow below ground, because they're usually a condiment. And so carrots grow, then beets grow underground. But again, if you're using them as a condiment, you can do that. But if you want to just keep things simple, just above ground vegetables, okay? Yeah, and you can't go wrong. You can even you can't you don't have to worry about measuring or weighing leafy greens, just as much as you can possibly talk.   Roy Barker  13:06 above ground is good. That's where you want to go. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.   Amy  13:10 unrooted Yeah, so not not the rooted vegetables. The other place you can get it can be a little squishy is with with squash. Squash is above ground. But I think we all know, there are certain squashes that when you roast them, they taste like candy. So the more they taste like candy, the more sugar is in there. So these are just, if you're trying to be real careful and keep your carbs really low, then my recommendation is to avoid this squash at first. Maybe that's a tier two. That's one of the first things you bring back before the root vegetables. And but it's so interesting because it to me the Wow. So I've shifted a lot. So I was always I've always been low carb. And I've always been very pro keto. And I still am for the right people. But I really come to this place now where once somebody is healthy, so their health is coming back into line. Now they have body goals. So maybe they want more energy, they want to lose some weight, you know, something, maybe you're getting older and you're like, Okay, I want to get better as I get older. So I want to age well, I need more strength, I need more lean muscle I you know. And then I start to look at this idea of total, the least amount of energy, that's usually my dog that's causing I kick them out so they just scratch on the door. And so some people feel more full, if they have more fats, and other people feel more full if there's more carbohydrates. So I like to say we're prioritizing protein. Protein is the target. Okay, and then you have your fats and your carbohydrates. On a seesaw. So if you're having a higher fat day, you're gonna have a lower carb day. If you want to have a higher carb day, maybe you're like, you know what, we just have to have sweet potatoes for dinner. And I want roasted beets in my salad. And so again, I'm talking about real whole food, carbohydrates, not pop tarts. And you know, maybe you're having a higher carb day. And so now your fats are going to be lower. So first of all, in nature, your higher fat foods are typically low carb, and your higher carb foods. In nature, whole real foods are low fat. So squashes low fat, sweet potatoes are low fat beats or low fat. And so if you just eat the real food, you're gonna just that seesaw will move naturally. Okay, it's when we have that sweet potato, or that baked potato, and we throw the sour cream and cheese and everything on there. And now we have fats and carbs together. And this is where sort of the problem arises. And so with clients at this point, once they're sort of healthy and trying to manage their body composition, I'm going to prioritize the protein and then we're going to play around and see where they feel the best. You know, maybe you need more carbs, maybe you need more protein. And if it like, if they're anything like me, I switched from day to day,   Terry  16:23 right? Yeah. So Well, I'd be going back, going back to the squash, my squash never tastes like sugar. I mean, I can do them any which way Roy will eat them. He'll eat anything I cook, which is awesome. But But squash is not one of his favorite things. Now, I did do some spaghetti squash the other day and did kind of like a roasted chicken casserole. Yeah, like non dairy cream cheese with it. Yeah. And, you know, some diced tomatoes and green chilies. And it was really good. It tastes really good. Yes. That's what we do we do meatballs for spaghetti squash. That's our meatball dinner. Yeah. I mean, I love the spaghetti squash and Roy, he likes it too.   Roy Barker  17:14 Yeah. So the other question sorry, as it go, unruly. what how much protein is a target, because I know, there's always controversy about if you start eating too much, it could be converted back to sugar as well or glucose. So   Amy  17:37 this is the whole idea that protein will turn into the chocolate cake and that gluconeogenesis. And I am a believer that gluconeogenesis is demand driven, not supply driven. So I am a high protein, I push high protein. And I obviously I'm not a researcher, I follow and read protein researchers. And I'm you know, kind of learning and moving through that on my own and then with my clients. And one of the things that I have discovered over the years is that it appears as we age, we need a lot more protein than we did when we were younger. So somebody at 55 needs less more protein than somebody who's 25 doesn't mean the person that's 25 can eat God's or protein, they can and they should. But at 55, I don't have the hormones that that 25 year old has to create this muscle protein synthesis. So I am without a certain bolus of protein, I'm not managing my lean muscle mass. Well, which is exactly what I do want to do, as I'm aging, I need to maintain if not grow that lean muscle because it's our organ of longevity. So for somebody my age, so 55, let's say and the older you get, then the more protein but the recommendation that I've seen for me is about 150 grams, or even more per day. And so what I sort of shoot for with my clients is a minimum of 90 grams of protein a day. That's like the bare minimum and I say 90 grams for a reason. And I like three, two to three meals a day without snacking, ideally. And if you're going to eat, then you want that bolus of protein to be about 30 grams. So if you eat three meals a day, that's going to give you 90 grams of protein bare minimum. But ideally you want more than that, so that you can kind of you know, get get that protein up and it's not that hard. Once you get once you wrap your head around it. It's not that hard to eat 45 to 60 grams in a meal. And so you can really get that protein up it's not that hard.   Roy Barker  19:57 Yeah, cuz I've I've seen anywhere from, you know, like, as low as 75, you know, 150 to some even up to 180. So, that's even higher than that. Yeah, even. Yeah, cuz there anyway, just a lot of stuff out there. So that's good. You know,   Amy  20:17 one rule of thumb that I read and I really liked was your ideal body weight in grams of protein. So if you're somebody who wants to weigh 130 pounds, then shoot for a minimum of 130 pounds of grams of protein. So that kind of taste makes it a little easier, because a lot of times you see those equations that it's like this many, you know, this many grams of protein per kilogram of lean body weight and na and, and not everyone's doing math, and it's very confusing. So think about your ideal body weight, and that amount that that's your minimum for your protein in grams.   Roy Barker  20:55 Well, that makes it easy. Yeah, cuz, yeah, lets me run on where I need to, or where I want to, because that's one thing. You know, I'm not anti keto, I just hear that staying on it long term, can have consequences as well. But I think for somebody like me, that's been struggling and trying to put veggies in and, you know, even looking at doing more plant based, I think, you know, now I'm back to the thinking that we just need to drop back to this, try to, you know, ramp up the proteins, take all the take everything out, and then start adding back. If I can ever get to know where I really need want to be on glucose ratings, then just start adding back and see what really affects those, you know, when we start different vegetables.   Amy  21:48 Yes, and it's one of the other things or advantages to prioritizing your protein is you're gonna end up crowding out a lot of those other foods simply because you won't be as hungry, and the protein will fill you up. So you do end up crowding out a lot of the other food so I You're so you're you're leaning sort of more going thinking more plant based. And it's so funny, because I will actually go carnivore, especially with clients who have gut issues. I always, you know, we'll go carnivore, just like clear everything out and let's just heal the gut, then you can start reintroducing and see what works, but that going carnivora often calm all that inflammation down. It's so interesting.   Terry  22:30 Oh, wow. That one? Yeah. Yeah,   Roy Barker  22:34 that's, that's what? No, that's good. Because, you know, we've been struggling with the vegetables just because it's hard to know what you can look at. I don't know, there's some way we could look at them and see what we thought they might do. But there are some that have been good, you know, healthy for me, that tended not to be so.   Amy  22:55 Right. It's very different for every single person, what works for Terry may not work for you, and vice versa. It's just you have to know what's gonna, what makes you feel good?   Roy Barker  23:05 Well, that's good information to have. Yeah, I appreciate that very much. And I think, you know, the listeners should get a lot of benefit from that. There's just so much information out there about what to do and when to do it. But like myself, I've just been having more and more difficulty controlling it. And COVID hasn't helped less exercise probably put on a few extra pounds that I didn't need. So too close to the kitchen to say,   Amy  23:33 you know, I'll be honest with you, this is what I do for a living. And I woke up this morning. And I didn't even want to get out from under the covers, I just everything right now just feel so heavy. And it just makes everything so hard. And I felt like you know, I made it through 2020. And I did a good job. And I, you know, went in positive and I'm like, I'm going to come out better. And now we're having sort of this relapse. It's this this son, you know, analogy of that false summit. You know, we're there, we did it, and then you're just like, oh, you haven't, and it just is so crushing. And I'm just in that just like everyone else. I'm at that place where I just, um, like, I just don't think I can keep doing it. It's just so hard to keep doing the right thing all the time.   Terry  24:19 It really is. It is brutal. And when you fall off, you know, you have a couple of days where you're like, I'm just not going to. I did great. I'm going to celebrate today. I did great the last couple of days eating my celebrate today. And then it's like one more day. Oh, it's the weekend. Our stock start Monday. Well, you know, we're having a hard time getting back into that starting date.   Amy  24:46 So that is that is key, right? Is that okay? I fell off or I you know, I didn't do make the best choices, and that's fine. The problem is you don't want to get stuck there. You need to like step back up. Get back over it start moving again. fallen off and you know, it's okay, but just don't get stuck there. And that's that's the trap. And whatever everybody's gonna have different ways of mentally kind of challenging themselves to move beyond that. And then you're so lucky you have each other and you can, you know, motivate and try to encourage. That's it's important. It's right now especially.   Roy Barker  25:25 Yeah, I think that mental, the mental part of it is because no, we like to keep up on what's going on in the world. But it's unfortunate. It's just not not good news in the know, especially with this COVID it's now what we're seeing here is a lot of just saw a friend of mine that I went to high school with posted something about his granddaughter's whole sixth grade class has been quarantined out of an elementary school. So let's The first one was tough. It was affecting older people. Now this one seems to be different than it affects younger, but, you know, it's like, like you said, When are we gonna? When are we gonna feel like we're gonna handle this and they're gonna be live? Yeah, I just don't feel like I can live right now. And it's getting the best to me. Yeah, the scary part is is like, is this? Is this the new normal? Or? Maybe if it's, you know, is that something not   Amy  26:23 accept this as a new normal? I, you know, Rory, I did have a question for both of you. Are you guys doing any intermittent fasting? Or do you?   Terry  26:34 Do you do any of that? I was gonna bring that up to you. We had when we started doing plant based, we, we started intermittent fasting, where we would eat at noon, and would eat at 7pm and then not eat again until noon the next day. And we kept that up for a good while didn't How about how long do you think it's okay, you felt okay. until noon? Well, yes, I think up until I think about a week of it, I was kind of kind of done,   Roy Barker  27:10 I think we went for about a month or six weeks. But breakfast is my meal, the one that I enjoyed the most. And I just part of it was I just missed the meal. And then, but what I think we would call intermittent fasting, it may not be long enough, but if we could do like from 6pm, six, or 7pm to seven or 8am, you know, still like a 12 hours, I don't know if that's long enough to be considered intermittent fasting, but that would be optimal for us is just to be able to do that. And because that's my worst part is actually at nine or 10 o'clock at night. So that would cure a lot of things for us, you know?   Amy  27:53 Well, so I always look at 12 an hour, 12 hour fast as your if that's like, everybody needs to get to a 12 hour fast. And so you have to have that equal one to one ratio of feasting to fasting and so 12 hours overnight is going to give you that. And that's an I have a lot of clients who can't even to can't start there, they can do 910 hours. So we work our way to 12 hours. And then once you get to 12 hours, and that starts feeling really good, then maybe we do 12 and a half hours, and ultimately try to move it to 14 hours. And then if you really want to go for it, you can go to 16 hours. So more of an eating window than necessarily this idea of intermittent fasting. So for somebody like you who likes breakfast, well, maybe that's when you have your eating window, you have an earlier eating window in the day, and then you just end it earlier. So instead of, you know having dinner, maybe you eat your last meal at 5pm or 4pm or something like that you do your window that way. And I not going to do the math super fast in my head, but whatever would work out for maybe say an eight hour eating window from when you start and then stop. Okay. Yeah, so that's an that's another way to kind of play with it. Or if you want us to do a 10 hour eating window that then you're looking at a 14 hour fast. So you figure out Oh, I do like to eat earlier in the day. So I'm going to have my eating window earlier. So a lot of people are like, well, I'm going to eat at noon, and then I'm going to stretch it till you know, whatever dinnertime. A lot of people do it that way. But I come across a lot of people who are just like I feel better if I eat earlier. So I want to have that morning or that early meal. And you just shift to what works for you. And I asked you about the plant base because one of the things I find with clients and I always say no forcing a fast, I want it to happen naturally. And so when we are managing their sugars, so that they're you know, they're getting to that ability to use body fat for fuel, that's when they start to fast naturally, because now their body has plenty of fuel. It's not asking them to feed them and so their appetite really suppresses You do still get you still, your body will still ask you to feed it because it needs nutrients, it needs you to give it food, it needs those nutrients. But as far as that, you know, stored fuel, it's good tons of fuel. So you don't end up having those hangry these you don't like have that swing where you're like, I feel great, or I feel horrible. I feel great. I feel horrible. And so it makes it a lot easier. And again, if you start to prioritize that protein, you may find that you can do a little bit of a longer window. And but you should just let it happen. Don't force it. Just let it happen.   Roy Barker  30:32 Okay, yeah, cuz I was just thinking, if I do a 10 hour, that would be from eight to six, it'd be optimal. Now it's still given well, but really, you're saying you want to get to a 16 is? Well,   Amy  30:48 I think 14 is awesome. I do I think 14 is great. And if I guess the point is 14 becomes something that all of a sudden you realize, oh my gosh, I went 16 hours today. Fantastic. But you know what? Go with your 14, your 10 hour eating window, and then just let nature take its course. And if that ends up sometimes being longer? Great. Okay, well, we   Roy Barker  31:09 may try that, because that's something we did we know we just talked about, we've talked about shifting it. But really, that's what we would normally want to do anyway is you know, have that last meal around six. Yeah, not eat again till breakfast that cuts all my evening snacks out.   Terry  31:26 And, and so and   Amy  31:28 then you're also creating your own personal food policy, which is, I do not eat after 6pm. So instead of just being like, oh, maybe she has something in front of the TV, you're like, Oh, no, I don't eat after 6pm. It's that simple. It's really, it's one of those funny things. When you create a food policy for yourself, you think I do this, not this, it's that it's cut and dry. It's black and white. And boom, I recently did my had a new food policy that I put in place, which was I do not eat in front of the television. And it's so funny, I, I put up a video on what not to do. Because I put my food policy in place, I don't eat in front of television, this is going amazingly well for like a week. And then I started to get very antsy about it. And I started to feel not good about it. I'm like, I just can't do this. Like it's too hard. And I'm like, what is happening. And I realized in my brain, my simple, I do not eat in front of the television had morphed into no electronics, while I'm eating, no distractions, I have to focus on my food. And it just became overwhelming. And way too much. Because I like to read Yahoo News when I'm eating my lunch. And all of a sudden that was off the table. And then I realized that is not off the table. That is not my policy. It is only that I do not eat in front of the television. And then all of a sudden, it became easy again, I'm like, I can do that. You know, but all of a sudden morphing it into this thing where I had to be mindful all the time when I was eating and no, you know, it's just like, Ah, you know, I mean, at some point, I might get to that place from like, Okay, I'm not going to read Yahoo News when I eat my lunch. But that is not this time. I am not there.   Terry  33:08 I see. I mean, that's exactly what what we do is we just like restrict, restrict everything to the letter, and then we start adding things like exactly like that too much.   Amy  33:20 Yeah, we can have to get really good at that one thing. So it becomes this mindless action, like I don't to the point where you so what we're trying to do is become less mindful. We want to create these mindless habits that actually propel us in a positive direction instead of mindless habits that are totally working against us, like eating in front of the television. I must get more to eat because it's fun. I'm being entertained in multiple ways. Now, you know, so now when I just say no, I'm not eating in front of the TV, I just cut out all the extraneous food calories that I don't need. was so easy. Just a little tiny tweak. Okay. Oh,   Roy Barker  34:02 yeah, cuz that's always been my you know, for years that's been my downfall is that nine or 10? o'clock? hunger and, you know, sad to admit that there'd be times if I didn't even have something in the house. I'd leave it nine or 10 o'clock to go get it then. Anyway, just   Amy  34:19 better to do that though. It's actually better if you have to leave the house and go get it than to have it in the house. That's, you know, cuz you will, you will do that, but probably less often. If it was in the house, you need always do it. Right. Oh, oh, yeah, the food policy stuff. There's, like over eating that's my thing. Like I eat the right food, but I definitely can eat a lot of it. So there's a lot of food policies you can put in place to just help you manage just that one simple thing like, Oh, I don't eat in the car. No food in the car. Oh, I don't eat at my desk. No food at your desk, you know, simple little. Oh, here's one for parents. I do not eat off my children's plate. Oh, is it There, that's the only thing you're going to change. You can have what they're having, but you have to put it on your own plate. That's,   Terry  35:06 that's a good one. That's a really good one. Because that was always my excuse. And that's why I ballooned up. Many y'all do it gives you permission. Oh, yeah, I think you want that, that, you know, help them make their decision on what they want to eat. So you can finish it, because they're not gonna like it.   Amy  35:23 How many times you nibble off their plate? And you don't even realize?   35:28 It's what's Yeah.   Roy Barker  35:31 Well, Amy, thank you so much. For giving up your time, it's been a great talk in, you kind of inspired me to change some things around and see what that's gonna do. So I'm great. Yes. I'm so glad it was really fun talking with both of you, as well. So tell us what is a habit or a tool, something that you use on a daily basis that you feel adds a lot of value to your life?   Amy  36:00 I people are gonna hate this, I like to track my food. I like to track my food, I like to Well, I like numbers. I like data. And while I'm prioritizing my protein, I want to I want to hit my proteins. So I like to look and watch and see Did I hit my proteins is Was it a higher carb day or higher fat day? How did I manage that. So I use carb manager calm as my tracker. And the best thing that I can do is I can get up in the morning and I can put my whole day in my tracker. So I've already outlined everything that I'm going to eat, including snacks, not that I snack, but maybe I want to snack that day, I don't know. So I'm going to include some snacks just in case and they're still going to work, they're still going to my numbers are going to work for me, it's all going to work out even if I do decide to eat those snacks. So that's one of the things that I do to kind of keep track of what's going on, especially right now. Because as I mentioned earlier, I'm having a really hard time staying positive and just doing all the right things. You know, I'm just like, oh, so for me to like, at least stay on track that way. So I can at least see what I'm eating. And and then even throwing the things in there that maybe aren't the best. I got to put them on my tracker. And then I can actually see Well, what does that mean, if I eat? I don't know, Haagen dazs Mini cup. What does that look like in my tracker? doesn't look good. But you know, it's there. So.   Terry  37:28 Right. Well, and that positivity is really aware with Yeah, I mean, that's hard to find right now, you know, just on top of the regular things that you're trying to do? Well, and everything else.   Roy Barker  37:40 And I think it's important, you know, also about that is to be honest with yourself. And because I've done it before, you know, you keep track of all the good stuff, but the bad stuff. It's like a I'm not poor. But I think what we could do is we can see at the end of the week or the month, we can look at our results and say, Well, this is I can see exactly why because I had to hogging dos bars. Right, right. That's why I didn't get much, much traction this week. So   Amy  38:08 I read this thing, probably 10 years ago, and it said, so yeah, you don't have to write it down. But your body knows exactly what you ate. So you might as well write it down tricking anybody. And it's To me, it's kind of a game, like I'll get in the morning, I'll be like, okay, I want to hit my proteins. And I'm definitely feeling like I'm on an apple today. And we have some, you know, cooked red potatoes that we they're so good. And you know, so it's going to be a higher carb day for me. So I'll look at my, what I'm planning to eat. And then I'll look at my numbers. And I'll be like, okay, so I need to tweak some stuff here. Because it's so then I'll play around and see what I what I need to do to actually get the numbers that I want. So for me in the morning, it's just like this little numbers game that I'll play with myself. Right? keep it interesting.   Roy Barker  38:58 All right, well, Amy, tell people who do you like to work with? How that how you can help them? And of course, how can they reach out and get a hold of you.   Amy  39:07 So I often am finding myself working with women, typically 50 and older, who are at this great place in life. I refer to it as our second childhood. And we get to call the shots. But they don't feel great. So they're like, okay, I want I want this I want to feel amazing, I want to be myself, but you know, it's all about me now it's my time. So we you know, that's what I'm working with. And it's I also work with men, but more often than not women are the ones who come to me and sometimes they don't have a weight loss goal. They just want to feel better. And they want to make sure that they're doing the right things so that they maintain their bone health and their lean muscle mass and you know, that kind of stuff. And but you just my website if you go to it's called thesimplicityofwellness.com and actually, it's soon super simple if you go to my website, there's only one thing you can do. And it's a start here button and it just takes you into my free mini course. And, and so that's kind of what's going on there right now.   Roy Barker  40:12 Okay. Oh, great. And we'll include that in the show notes as well. Yeah. Alright. Well, thank you again, Amy. We appreciate all the great information and that's going to do it for another episode of Feeding Fatty Of course, I am your host, Roy   Terry  40:24 Terry.   Roy Barker  40:25 You can find us at www.feedingfatty.com we're on all the major podcast platforms iTunes, Stitcher, Google Spotify for not a one that you listen to. Please let me know I'd be glad to add it to make it easier for you to listen to us. We're also not all the major social media platforms we probably tend to hang out on Instagram. Love for you to reach out and interact with the third there and we have video of this interview will go up when an episode goes live. So check us out on our YouTube channel. Until next time, take care of yourself and take care of your health. www.thesimplicityofwellness.com www.feedingfatty.com

Feeding Fatty
Is The U.S. Healthcare System Failing Due to Greed, Ignorance, or Arrogance?

Feeding Fatty

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 2, 2021 69:02


Is The U.S. Healthcare System Failing Due to Greed, Ignorance, or Arrogance? Featuring Dr. Robert Yoho What's wrong with America's healthcare system? We are the richest most developed country in the world and we refuse to take care of our own. Even if you have decent insurance you have to fight for everything you get. Forget about those uninsured for whatever reason. We can and should be committed to doing much better. Let's start demanding more. Now!!! About Dr. Robert I was born in l953 in Richmond, Virginia, and grew up in Kent, Ohio, (known for the Kent State riots during the Vietnam war), was an Eagle Scout, and a Judo wrestler. I spent four years at Oberlin College and went to Small College National Championships in Varsity Wrestling my senior year. Then, was accepted at one of the finest medical schools in the United States, Case Western Reserve University in Cleveland, Ohio. At 22 years old, one year into my medical education, I decided that I needed to “find myself” and took a two-year sabbatical. After starting and managing a tree surgery business, I went to Wyoming to work on oil drilling rigs, and then spent the next year traveling to rock climbing areas. I became a master climber and traveled to cliffs in twelve states. Additionally, I published articles in climbing magazines and made “first ascents” at Devil's Tower, Wyoming, and Joshua Tree, California. I made an early ascent of “The Naked Edge,” a classic climb near Denver, and climbed the Long's Peak Diamond. As recently as the mid-1980s, I climbed such difficult classics as Astroman, the west face of El Capitan, and the Crucifix in Yosemite, free climbing up to a mid-“5.12” difficulty level. I climbed the Regular Northwest Face of Half Dome in 18 hours in 2004 and the Nose route on El Capitan in less than 24 hours in 2005. After returning to medical school in l978, I found that bodybuilding complemented my studies. With the added responsibility of specialty training and professional pressures, I had less opportunity for athletics in the past decade. However, I ran 14 triathlons in the late '80s and early '90s and made time for some Kempo Karate (though injuries sidelined me). I have practiced Astanga (flow) Yoga and trained with the legendary 70-year-old master Yogi, Frank White, at the “Center For Yoga” in Hollywood. More recently, I practiced Bikram Yoga and concluded, “it's way hot in there.” (105 to 115 degrees F). I currently practices Baptiste Yoga every day. I married a wonderful woman from Trinidad and had three kids. My son Alan became an All American cross country star in high school, and he and his twin Sarah graduated from Brown University. He now works at Google and Sarah at Nasdaq. Hannah, their older sister, managed a group at the Four Seasons Resorts by the time she was 24. Curriculum Vitae: cosmetic surgery career (now retired) DATE OF BIRTH October 3, 1953 INTERESTS Children, weight lifting, rock climbing, psychology, writing, kayak, Ashtanga and Bikram yoga. Bookworm: Reading averages 3 new books a week. Climbed El Capitan 4 x, Half Dome, Sentinel, Astroman (5.11c), Crucifix (5.12b) in Yosemite. New routes: a grade 5 in Zion and El Matador (5.11) at Devil's Tower, others at Joshua Tree. Climbed regular route on Half Dome in 17 hours 2004. EDUCATION 1971-1975 : Oberlin College Oberlin, Ohio 1975-1981: Case Western Reserve Univ. Medical School 10900 Euclid Ave, Cleveland, Ohio. 44106-4920 POSTGRADUATE TRAINING 1981 – 1982: Internal Medicine Internship R 1 year University of Cincinnati, Cincinnati, OH 1982 – 1983: Dermatology Residency R 2 years Hanover, New Hampshire at Dartmouth-Hitchcock Medical Center One Medical Center Drive, Lebanon, New Hampshire 1983 – 1985: Emergency Medicine Residency Training Los Angeles County Hospital LAC/USC Medical Center 1200 N. State St. Room 1011, Los Angeles, CA Huntington Memorial Hospital, Pasadena, CA WORK HISTORY 2020-2021 full-time writer. 2019: retired from my medical and surgical practice and resigned my medical license. I had a fantastic career, and I was initially sad to end it. But I was soon relieved that I was no longer responsible for patient care and was able to write full time without conflicts of interest. See also the first chapter of Butchered by Healthcare for the circumstances, included on this website under “Writing.” 1992-2019: Cosmetic surgery practice, Pasadena, Visalia, and Oxnard, California. Liposuction, breast implantation specializing in through the umbilicus (belly button), laser blepharoplasty, face-lifts, facial implants, laser resurfacing, vein treatments, hair transplantation. Operated medical hyperbaric chamber between 1996 and 2000. 1987-1994: General practice in Pasadena, California. 1984-1987: Employed by the Huntington Memorial Hospital Emergency Medicine Group, SPECIAL EXPERTISE One of the most extensive experiences in the United States with tumescent liposuction and Brazilian butt lift with fat. Some of our liposuction supply vendors say we are their largest account internationally for several years. Trans-umbilical breast augmentation is a surgery that many try, but few become proficient. Thousands performed. One of only two surgeons in the United States who passed the specialty boards in both cosmetic surgery and emergency medicine. PAST MEMBERSHIPS IN PROFESSIONAL SOCIETIES Los Angeles County Medical Society California Medical Association American Society of Cosmetic Breast Surgery Fellow, American Academy of Cosmetic Surgery ACADEMIC STAFF APPOINTMENTS (INACTIVE) Drew-King Medical Center, assistant clinical professor, Department of Dermatology. Training residents in cosmetic surgery techniques. BOARD CERTIFICATION EXAMINATIONS TAKEN AND PASSED (NOW INACTIVE): American Board of Emergency Medicine (ABEM), 1987. Re-certification examination passed l999 and 2009. 3000 Coolidge Rd., East Lansing, Michigan 48823-6319 American Board of Dermatologic Cosmetic Surgery passed in 1999. Recertification passed ten years later. 18525 Torrence Ave., Lansing Illinois 60438. (708) 474-7200. American Board Laser Surgery passed in 2000. 417 Palmtree Dr. Bradenton, Florida 34210-3009. ACLS re-certification 1999, 2002, 2005. ATLS in past. Member, Fellow, and Past President, American Society of Cosmetic Breast Surgery: testing included written and oral examination as well as peer observation of surgical technique. PEER REVIEW WORK Produced with Robert Goldweber, M.D., Socrates Emergency Medicine Oral Boards Review Course, 1987. This was distributed nationwide for over 5 years. Emergency Medicine Residency Director Huntington Memorial Hospital (coordinated and trained Los Angeles County Hospital emergency medicine residents) 1985-1987. Board of Directors of California Academy of Cosmetic Surgery, 1998-2000. Outpatient surgical facilities reviewer training for IMQ surgical centers and AAAHC surgical centers. (Inactive) Testified before California Medical Board 6/01 regarding liposuction standards and 11/02 regarding expert witness problems. Robert Yoho Website – Hormone Secrets and Butchered by Healthcare www.robertyohoauthor.com www.feedingfatty.com Full Transcript Below Is The U.S. Healthcare System Failing Due to Greed, Ignorance? Featuring Dr. Robert Yoho Wed, 7/21 1:13PM • 1:08:42 SUMMARY KEYWORDS drug, people, doctors, studies, book, good, called, money, influence, fda, problem, patient, alzheimer, industry, patent, hormone, healthcare, crazy, years, standards SPEAKERS Dr. Robert, Terry, Roy Barker   Roy Barker  00:00 One. Hello and welcome to another episode of Feeding Fatty. I'm your host Roy.   Terry  00:08 I'm Terry   Roy Barker  00:08 Of course we are the podcast journaling chronicling our journey through this wellness process. You know, in the beginning, we talked a lot about diet, not a necessarily a diet, but you know what we eat, what, what we're trying to cut down on and be more healthy eating. We also talk a lot about exercise getting out and moving.   And we talk about mindset as well. That has kind of been the point it's led us to a lot of people know what they should be doing, trying to get in the right mindset to make the change, and then also to make it sustainable. That seems to be the difficulty and the challenge for us. But anyway, we also bring guests on from time to time experts in the field today is no different. We are very lucky to have Robert Yoho with us and I'm gonna let Terry introduce him.   Terry  00:55 Now. Robert Yoho is 67 years old. He has spent three decades as a cosmetic surgeon after a career as an emergency physician. His generalist training gives him perspective and allows him to avoid favoring any medical specialty. He's had little deal dealings with hospitals, Big Pharma or insurance companies before he wrote his his book Butchered by Healthcare. No one has ever considered him a whale prescriber or device device implanter he retired from the medical practice in 19. Excuse me, 2019 1999. Dr. Yoho, thank you so much for being on the show. We're so happy to have you as a guest.   Dr. Robert  01:38 Thanks, Terry. Well, let me just go over my sequence which led to my interest in this field. Yeah, I have all things. I did a career in cosmetic surgery, doing breast dog breast implants, liposuction, you know, facial, beautification, all that stuff. And I had two people in six months die in my offices. Oh, wow. And so that was quite a timeframe, introspection, and one of them I wasn't even operating on but it still was a heck of a shock.   And, you know, cosmetic surgeons or plastic surgeons usually have one fatality in surgery during their careers. And I'd had to in a very short sequence, so I started thinking and reading and I started uncovering what I later became started to think of as medical corruption. And so the basic, you know, I'm listening to your guys podcasts. And I see, it's an interesting process, because you have not had chronic diseases, you haven't had to worry about your health, you're, you're pulling your way through this material and thinking you're smelling a rat somewhere, that there's some. And I can tell you, after four years of studying this material, there's a lot wrong. And the bottom line is that we spend twice what the other developed countries spend per person, twice what Japan, Great Britain, France, and so on, and Canada spends per person.   In other words, we spent nearly 20% of our gross domestic product on health care, right? And twice as much per person. And the worst part is we get a bad product, okay? In other words, aren't we have earlier infant mortality. And it's not an academic controversy 50%, fully 50% of what we do, either doesn't work or actually is harmful. And there's many references for that you can look at my book butchered by healthcare to get more detail. But, but it doesn't work. Now, the simple bottom line for how this all developed is we raise money out of the sky, on our health care providers and the healthcare industry.   We gave them our insurance money, we gave them our federal Medicare money. And it was when free money happens, there's a lot of people come around to scoop it up. And these are entrepreneurs, you know, or possibly criminals, you know, that that got into this thing. Now, I'm not saying it's all bad, I don't want to make that message. You know, half of it works, you know, and a half as important and we have new therapies for certain things that are profoundly effective. But and the way these people have influenced our prescribing and the medical devices, and the insurance industry, is essentially through bribery.   Now bribery is a technical term, that term means something in legal jargon, so I really shouldn't use that term, but it's anytime money changes hands, the well is poisoned. And as we You see, you'll see when we go through these various medic medical specialty, there's a lot of money changing hands between industry and the rest of of the medical service providers. I mean, it's a phenomenal thing.   And so the important point, which you can read, if you start looking at influence theory in psychology, is that any amount of money changing hands profoundly affects the person's behavior, even taking a woman out to dinner and serving her a nice meal, you can get benefits that are far beyond the the cost of that meal. You know, that's a simple thing that drug reps come into their offices feed us food. And we think it doesn't influence our behavior, but it does. And it's a terrible thing. So that's the basic setup of medical care worldwide, but particularly in America.   And I'm, before I let you guys start the questions, I'm just going to tell you the three central insights I had during my study of this, and I didn't learn this right away. But the first one I've already mentioned, and that's the updated Golden Rule. And that is, those are the gold make the rules, right? That's, and the second is, science is being used to obscure the truth. Okay. So if you don't understand it ROI, that doesn't mean you're a dummy. What that means is somebody is BSE, you know, because you're just as smart.   As a storyteller, you're smart as the average physician. And sometimes, if you learn too much detail, that actually obscures the truth, because you don't need to be an academic to judge ethics. The last thing is, and this is the important one, if there's controversy about something, that doesn't mean that there's controversy, that means that it doesn't freaking work. Right? If if there's controversy, confusion, or contradictory evidence, don't fall into the trap of believing reasonable people disagree? Because you know, and I know, they've studied hundreds, if not 1000s of patients to produce the controversy. So forget about it, it doesn't work.   So you read a study that says, we don't know for sure they got these barely statistically significant figures or something like that, it means it doesn't work. So that's a good rule of thumb. I mean, I can't state that absolutely. Blanket fashion. But it, it is a good place to start. So ask me anything you want, I can develop the medical specialties or the insurance industry or, you know, a lot of other areas where we've essentially   Roy Barker  07:31 gone off the rails and say, Man, I got a I got a flat. But let's start out with your first concept. The, you know, the golden rule the people with the money, Mike the rule, because there's not only a lot of influence between the the pharmaceuticals and the doctors, that I would suspect with lobbyists and everything else, there's a lot with our lawmakers as well.   Dr. Robert  07:54 Yeah, the lobby for healthcare is far bigger than oil and gas and banking combined is, is monstrous. pharma has a $1.3 trillion gross worldwide, and it's something is well over half the profits occur in the United States and 40% of the sales, it might be 70 or 80% of the profits. So these guys have money to burn.   Roy Barker  08:19 One of the things that just just now thought of this when we were when you were doing your intro is is there a way to track the if I'm a drug maker cannot track the the doctors that are prescribing as though   Dr. Robert  08:33 they track a track exactly who it is. And I here's how they do it. They go to the pharmacy and they get the prescriber number, and then they go to the AMA, and the AMA sells them. The doctors name that associates with a prescriber number the AMA is a very economic organization. They shouldn't be doing this in my opinion. Yeah.   Roy Barker  08:55 Yeah. Because it's good to   Terry  08:56 know I was gonna say it's backlinks, it's like SEO, you know, computerized everything. It's all I don't even know where I was going with that, because I have so many things running through my head, I can't even form a good one.   Dr. Robert  09:12 Let me give you a stunning example of how money pollutes I mean this, this one is going to be hard for you guys to believe. But oncology is one of the most heavily influenced or, you know, cancer therapy. The cancer doctors is one of the most heavily influenced specialties and the reason is, well over half of their incomes come from retailing cancer drugs, they get about 25% and the average cancer drug costs $100,000 a year.   So these guys have these chairs, right the cancer chemotherapy chairs, the more chairs they have and the more patients they have, the more they can bill and they clip 25% off the top of the drugs price. Now you think this is terrible, but it's gets worse. It gets worse. This would be If a doctor sold them the drug, so another doctor, the drug, it would be called camping. It's a federal crime, they put both of them in jail. But the drug companies are allowed to do this because of some sort of exception. Now it gets even worse, they are rewarded, they are rewarded by the milligram. In other words, larger doses make more money for them. So they are incentivized to prescribe very high doses of whatever the most expensive thing is.   Now, I mean, doctors have integrity, we're trained to have ethics in a way that no other industry is. And you know, we're pretty good bunch. But I just want to say that there's no way anyone can get around a financial incentive, even a small one. And these guys well over half of their income, on average comes from far from sales of these drugs that they deliver in the office. Some of the other specialties, like the guys doing the testosterone blockers like Lupron to the best of my knowledge, they get, you know, the shot costs $10,000 or whatever the heck it is, takes two minutes. The doctor gets 25% It's crazy. I mean, it's absolutely crazy.   And that one that was a whole nother story. And that's it's a very damaging drug of questionable utility. According to Otis Brawley, who is the head of the American Cancer Society. Until recently, he thinks that it does more harm than good on average, because the drug actually, you know, the, the prostate cancer is cut by the fatalities are cut by a third, by using that drug. It sounds great, right? But the drug causes so many problems, the overall fatalities probably go up. I mean, it's just crazy. And you know, it's kind of not joke jokingly, but not jokingly, we listen to, especially during the evening news when we listen to these commercials, and they come out with the drug that helps you with this.   And then they've got 10 minutes worth of countries in the world ROI that allow that, yeah, that's direct to consumer advertising. It's an outrage, it got slowly slanted into our system over a period of five to 10 years, when they finally figured out there were no direct laws against it. And it's a complicated political battle, but they these pharmaceutical companies, is very effective is very effective, even though you're not sure what the hell it is, when they're talking about it on the TV. Ask your doctor, and then they go in and ask the doctors and the doctors are so busy. What are they going to do a lot of times they just write for the drug? Yeah,   Roy Barker  12:30 yeah. Well, nothing I was gonna say is they have like 10 minutes worth of but the side effects that this may cause, I mean, in some of the side effects that they list, it's like, wow, I would rather have whatever they're trying to treat is not near as harmful as all these potential side effects that they have. It's crazy. The studies are frequently   Dr. Robert  12:51 obscure the side effects and they measure, they, they measure, they're looking under the money tree, and not the tree of truth. You know what I mean? So, Ben Goldacre wrote a book about the frauds involved in pharmaceutical and device studies. And there are there are, I mean, you cannot imagine what these guys do.   They they mess with the statistics, they conceal studies that don't. Right, and they cherry pick their results in various ways. They change people and put them in the wrong group. So it looks like there are fewer fatalities. I mean, the HPV vaccine, you've heard of that it's a vaccine for venereal warts that supposedly affects cervical cancer. Well, they conceal 50% of the studies. And in my view, the best commentators at Cochrane you know, the Cochrane Institute in Europe, which does meta analyses, they don't think it works, you know, and at least the most sophisticated ones don't think it works. I mean, it's there.   They're influenced by pharma money also. So Japan abandoned the use of HPV, or at least they said it didn't work to their populace, and their inoculation rate dropped to 1% in one year. So that's the truth. They've got a public health system at least as robust as ours. And they they don't use HPV vaccine in any consequential fashion. The rest of the world still on it, pretty much. Yeah.   Terry  14:26 I was gonna ask, so what's the role? No, this is open up a can I was asked, What's the role of the FDA and all of this?   Dr. Robert  14:34 Okay. So the, the FDA, I have a chapter in butchered by healthcare about the FDA and the FDA is the most effective regulatory agent see in the world, but unfortunately, they are since 2003. A law was signed into effect that we could no longer negotiate prices with these. These pharma companies and Since then they've they've just bought everything and the prices have gone way up. But the the the FDA is fed or their revenues come from what's called user fees that the pharmaceutical companies pay them and well over half of their some some sources say 75% or more of their total budget of $5 billion is it comes from directly from pharma.   So they regard pharmaceutical companies as clients, rather than or entities to be regulated because if they refuse a drug, sometimes they can't make their own payroll. Now, you got to realize the the size of these entities they have to regulate, they have $5 billion, which sounds like a lot of money. But pharma is 1.3 trillion worldwide, 40% in the US, and the FDA doesn't have a prayer of watching all these factories in India and China. Inside the US, they inspect them once a year. And they you know, they do a little better job.   But in China, they all these there are the all these stories about these FDA inspectors getting fed fake facilities and fake paperwork and room. It Catherine even wrote a book called bottle of lies, if you're interested in the FDA and, and all that stuff. It's very illuminating. And it really gives you the feeling that the generics, we were I think were 90% generics because we've been so we've been so overpriced by the patent drugs, the patent drugs are good quality, they're actually what they are. They're manufactured under strict controls, but they're so expensive.   And they these guys have decided the price point of making them outrageous is the best strategy. And I guess it is they don't have to do as much and they sell all these things like, like bottled gold. And so we are buying 90% of our medications from India and China's about half and half. And these the generics often are adulterated with some in bad ingredient or they don't work as well. The long lasting generics physicians have often discovered that the long lasting generics are only they only last 12 hours instead of 36 hours.   Cleveland Clinic It was so bad at Cleveland Clinic that they developed their own mini FDA and they started testing their own medications. And they they found out what worked and what didn't. In Africa and other third world less advantaged countries that don't even have an FDA. The physicians keep a small stock of the good drug, the actual patent drug to use on people who are dying, that were the other drug doesn't seem to be working. And so they have to experiment with their patients. But the FDA is a mess. I have insiders quotes from whistleblowers and so on and so forth. But, I mean, it's the best any country has it's better than the one in Europe, you know, or who are who are respected.   Roy Barker  18:02 You know, also anyway. Yeah, unless it's a, you know, on the other show that we have, we've talked a little bit about the new release of the   Terry  18:12 Doom, Doom, that new Alzheimer's drug.   Dr. Robert  18:15 Oh, yeah, that's an outrage. Okay, so the there are about 10 of these patent Alzheimers drugs, and they cost probably a couple $1,000 a month. At a minimum, you know, they're very expensive. It might might only be $1,000 a month, what a bargain. But even the people who work with those drugs and you read their papers, they can't claim they freakin work. I mean, they, they have some small effects. But like the rest of these drug studies, they're basically half fake and half concealed.   And they use contract research groups, and out of the country, and if these guys don't produce the results that they want, they never use them again, you know, so. So anyway, so Alzheimers is a special case. This is very interesting subject because it's Alzheimer's is arguably the most expensive if long term care costs are included is the most expensive disease of all, but we've got excellent, we have an excellent thing to prevent Alzheimer's, right. So in my second book, on hormones, I showed how Astra dial prevents 50 to 80% of all Alzheimers, I mean this could save billions of dollars if it was used and not concealed right and not not derided basically.   Roy Barker  19:42 Yeah, well, this. I'll let Terry's speak a little more to it because she she's done the research but this new adullam it's $56,000 a year. But what they thought mine can't be what what they need, though, They found out two years from now. They found out that the committee that was assigned to assign it what our scientists study it, when they went ahead and said, okay, it's okay for sale. I think 10 of the 11 doctors that were on the panel all resigned because they had already it's it's not   Terry  20:22 it was a it was a an 11 member panels, three of them resigned. And their their vote, the voting on it was there. 10 of them said no, don't release it. And then one was uncertain. And then the FDA went ahead and said, Okay, well, they manipulate it seems like to me, they manipulated the study process, or, you know, the results that they got, and and made it   Roy Barker  20:48 and Okay, and then now I think there's an investigation. Yes, a lot. This   Dr. Robert  20:52 is a, this is a story you'll see over and over and over. And I've got stories like that all through my book, The tragedy of this whole thing, as you guys are finding out, you if you have a chronic disease, and Roy has a problem here. I mean, I think your problems simple compared to someone with cancer, but and you know, the the, the variety of you anyway, so but the tragedy is that you almost need physician level expertise to decipher what the heck to do next, and ever you need and you've got you got your woman by your side there who can help? Yeah,   Roy Barker  21:28 yeah. Well, and that's the thing to, you know, kind of get back to more general terms is, I guess what I see are concerned about is, instead of doctors taking the time to find out what is this underlying issue, they would rather prescribe to treat a symptom instead of actually having a conversation.   Terry  21:46 That's where they get their money is if they like give them the pharmacy, you know, give them the meds,   Dr. Robert  21:53 you know, they are trapped in a in a system that where they're their actions are dictated and even these guys who work for Health Maintenance Organizations, they if they don't have prescribing habits that mimic the, quote, standard of care, which is largely dictated by Big Pharma, influenced by the standards panels, who are paid each one of the persons on the panel has huge conflict of interest paid by two or three pharma companies, for example, antidepressants and statin drugs, right?   Both of those are should be thinly used, and they're the damn no depressants must be 10% of the whole country is on antidepressants, like drugs is 15% or more. But the influence is so the industry influence is so heavy, that your primary care doctor is not an independent actor anymore. He's got an individual license, he's responsible, but he operates under protocols. So they're not they're there.   They're not innocent, but they're not the they're not the real problem. The problem is they're in a matrix, you know, they're a matrix of control. And the money is so huge, that these companies are getting more overt or obvious about their influence. Now, in the last year, they all sort of came out of the closet and said, do as we tell you, or else you know, that's my opinion about what happened.   Roy Barker  23:20 Wow, yeah, it's unbelievable. Yeah, I was just gonna go down I was looking at the second one is the science is obscured, to hide the truth. And so I just was going to ask, you know, in your opinion, are, are these clinical trials large enough? Are they lengthy enough to actually you know, and the problem with anything is that something may be something may be doesn't come to light in the short term, but after you do it for 10 1520 years, all of a sudden, now, there's a big problem. But, again, in your opinion, are we even taking enough time to evaluate these drugs before we release them?   Dr. Robert  24:04 Okay, so Roy, you're asking the right questions, and you're trying, you guys are trying to Paul your way through this mess of data, and try to figure out what the heck is going on. But if you want to read about these clinical trials and the frauds I think the easiest and most approachable book is been gold acres, bad pharma, and that's 10 years old. But the answer is that the answer is that you can hardly trust anything.   Now the doctors are. We are conditioned to think that double blind placebo controlled trials are the beyond handle, but it's a garbage in garbage out situation and Geico situation. And it depends on the intentions of the people who are doing the trial. And so the answer is now, anecdotal medicine is almost better than the clinical trials and I it's almost a waste of time to look at them. Because if you go to the back of the paper and they're sponsored by the the company selling the drug, he was a gold makes the rules right. So they I mean, it's a it's a tragedy but everyone thinks they mean something. One of my friends says the whole thing has been almost garbage since 2000 is not crazy.   I because the the industry is just taking control of freakin everything now. So I don't say this stuff casually. I studied it for four years, I've got 500 References In this book, nothing I say. Everything I say is derivative of authors that have come before me. I didn't do original research. I I read the stuff that was available. And I looked at the references, you know?   Terry  25:52 Oh, my gosh. Shocking, isn't it dairy. It's shocking. And you don't take anything.   Dr. Robert  25:59 You don't want to take anything you want to you basically. And I think you guys are on the right track with your, your keto and your your controlled fasting and your prolonged fasting. I think all that stuff, there is better evidence than anything else we have. I think that the you know, all the fat stuffs turned around want to eat animal fat and all that all those narratives about about the animal fat is being bad for you.   That's all wrong. I mean, it's and it's all that's all food industry driven. And as you may recall the Food and Drug it the FDA is food and drug, right? So they spend half their money half that billion $5 billion, regulating the food industry, and they don't do a very good job there. And I've got references if you're interested in that, if you're interested in the vegan stuff. I have references for that, too.   Roy Barker  26:45 Okay, yeah, I mean, that that is because we are you know, we haven't gone total vegan, we are more what we call plant based. And, you know, we we do not, we eat protein, but not it's not the focal point of the meal. Like it used to be used to you had the, you know, the big meat and a side thing of potatoes or whatever. So, you know, we've tried to flip that. But, you know, it gets back to this this thing about I have read some research, this is not my my research, but I've read a number of studies that say, you know, kind of staying with Alzheimer's is that that can be traced back to the low fat diet of the 70s and 80s. Because we need this fat for our brain to keep those receptors lubricated. And, yeah,   Dr. Robert  27:31 I thought that was interesting. I listened to you. interview someone who'd given cook it on the world for three months to someone and they freakin improved, you know, so who knows? That's that's another anecdote. I have no expertise about this.   Roy Barker  27:46 Yeah, that was a very, it was a very, it was a one person, but it sparked some huge longitudinal studies on that just to, you know, see if this fat intake. But yeah, there's been a lot of saying that that's what has caused this huge spike right now is what we did. And I guess that's kind of our mission to it's changed a lot on this show. But you know, part of it is, you know, I'll speak for me, I'm going into an older phone into the older age brackets sooner than I would like to. And so I need to be sharing carry good health good habits into this. I mean, you can't wait to you're 18 years old and say, Wow, I need to change some things. I mean, yeah.   Dr. Robert  28:30 Well, another clue about my other book, which is the hormone book is after reviewing all the data for hormones, it's my opinion, and brace yourself. It's my opinion, that hormone supplementation over 40 or 50 years old is more important than exercise. Possibly as important as diet, you get it. So there's a lot of there's a lot of data on that a lot of a lot of studies and the standards that are promulgated are a pack of lies, you know, it's crazy. I mean, then we've got, we've got black box warnings on testosterone, estrogen and progesterone. Those three are vital, and they they can save your life and likely make you live longer. They save your alertness decrease Alzheimer's, I mean it has they have multiple good effects. Anyway,   Terry  29:23 is that why is that? I mean, do you do you think that is one of the reasons that all timers and dementia has increased, so   Dr. Robert  29:32 no doubt about it. There's no doubt about it. And the hormone levels are dropping, sperm counts are dropping, and we have good measurements in men about these trends over the last 20 years. We don't know why. It may be stress, it might be chemicals, it might be who knows it might be nutritional, and it might be something else but they it for any given age. Those are dropping and it's if we supplement we can prevent many, many problems.   Roy Barker  30:00 So I'm sure that this is difficult to prove collusion. But do you think that there's a link in not releasing certain products because we would rather sell the drugs on? Instead of being proactive? We'd rather wait and sell the drugs on the back end.   Dr. Robert  30:18 Yeah, you, you have to realize that these companies, they're not evil, and they're not good. They're only interested in money. And so they're willing, they're willing to, there are speculations that they, they would or do sell things that absolutely don't work in order to make the money and they can, they can fake the studies. In other words, you do 20 studies, and one of them is statistically significant, you know, when you that's the only one you publish. So, you know, I mean, they can sell wheat grass and a pill for God knows what.   But it's, it's it's truly a sad story, because some of the things are injurious. There's a class of antidepressants or anti psychotics, because it called atypical antipsychotics. These things are well documented to shorten your life by 10 to 20 years, through diabetes and all this other stuff. However, they're getting passed out like jelly beans to people who have simple depressions. The SSRI drugs like Prozac, they cause consequential violence and suicide in a small number. And those guys are passed out very casually, they're exceedingly addictive.   And, you know, it's it's basically an outrage. And the whole, the whole thing has been covered up since the start, the initial studies for Prozac showed the suicide rate, and that they paid off plaintiff after plaintiff for these things, rather than have it brought out. So, I mean, there's a lot of drugs that are just that are no good. And in fact, the whole psychiatric formulary. And I'm not, I'm not one of those, what do they call it the anti psychiatry is religion. What is that called? The Scientologists are not a Scientologist right?   The but the Scientologists got this one, right. The psychiatry is drugs are the way they're used. Currently, that means indiscriminately on almost everyone, with these standards that were essentially fabricated with hand in glove with the pharmaceutical companies. It's it's an outrage, and that's the most, that's the most expensive medical specialty. And that that whole thing is a mess. I mean, it's truly a mess. And there are a lot of psychiatry is the only specially that has a massive number of people who are essentially psychiatry deniers, they don't think they should be operating at all.   Every other specialty, they're doing something, you know, they're, they're making some mistakes, but psychiatry, the drugs have never been subjected to proper double blind placebo controlled trials. I mean, essentially, if you can't find any, you can't find anybody to put on a sugar pill these days, because we've got 15% of the country taking these darn drugs. Yeah,   Terry  33:08 it's crazy. Yeah. Which leads to which probably has led up to a lot of the violence that's happening, you know, all these I like to see it.   Dr. Robert  33:18 Yeah. The mass violence. Yeah. Everyone knows seems to be associated with with a psychiatric drug use. But of course, everybody's on the damn drugs. So   Terry  33:27 who knows? How do you know? Yeah, yeah.   Roy Barker  33:30 Well, you mentioned something, too, about settlements. And I, I just have mixed emotions about that. Because I feel like if, if I'm able, if I'm a $1.3 trillion industry, I'm able to offer some pretty big dollars for you to not take this to court. You know, it's like, okay,   Dr. Robert  33:50 it's this important point, right. The pharma industry, in terms of their settlements to federal prosecutors, is the most criminal industry in history. They have billions of dollars in settlements every year. It's an unbelievable scene. And essentially, they are paying everyone off to leave them alone and let them continue doing what they're doing. So I mean, it's, it's   Terry  34:16 about it, what and to shut up about it not saying well, you know,   Dr. Robert  34:20 they, when when they make a settlement, they don't admit wrongdoing. But when you give someone $2 billion to to to stop the prosecution, I mean, it's a rich pay off, and the prosecutors can stand on the pile of loot and say they've been, they've saved the world from, you know, one of these companies, and, I mean, it's crazy. Pfizer has profit margins of 40% for the last five years.   So if you know anything about industry, a 10% profit margin is a very good profit margin. It's in a competitive industry, but this is in an industry where the money falls out of the sky on healthcare, and and Pfizer Pfizer for what Have a reason, you know, which we won't speculate about. But you can speculate privately about their profit margins are very high. It's crazy.   Terry  35:08 And so what? How does that? So you mentioned Pfizer, so how does that tie into the COVID? vaccination? Maybe? Okay,   Dr. Robert  35:18 so, here now, I just want to make a comment about doctors and politics, right? So if you go to a doctor, and he talks politics to you, that's called a boundary violation. It's not considered cool in medical ethics, ethics term, just like, just like in polite company, we don't talk about religion, politics or net worth, right? It's not it's not considered reasonable. So this vaccine has been kicked around so much. It's being censored by YouTube and all these crazy media people. So I think we can consider the vaccine a political issue.   So I'm going to make a comment which will tip you off to what I think about these modern vaccines without specifically commenting on the COVID varieties. Right. So we have we have the the two vaccines that were have been promulgated in the last 20 years now, you know, measles vaccine, and all that was before that, and they all have robust effectiveness, right. But the two are the flu vaccine. And HPV, I already told you what I thought of HPV vaccine, Japan rejected it.   And they've got a very good public health service that seems less influenced by pharma. But for the flu vaccine, this costs billions and billions of dollars every year, Britain and France stockpile this thing. And their governments are influenced by the manufacturers, obviously, because that stuff doesn't work very well at all, it doesn't do much of anything. It may decrease the length of the the severity of the disease by eight hours or some crazy thing.   And this is not a controversial thing. You can go to Cochrane Reviews, you just Google Cochrane Reviews flu vaccine, you can read the summaries of the last few meta analyses and they, you know, read between the lines, but it does it doesn't say the freakin stuff works, you know, it doesn't work very well, it's very expensive. So we can, we can certainly extrapolate pharmas products, which we know a lot about the other products, I mean, these these site drugs, they've tracked the rise in disability very closely.   So that is a suggestion that the drugs cause the rise and disability, right? These there's a lot of other drugs like the stat that basically, I mean, there is arguable small use cases for it, but they've, they've gone so crazy, we've got 8060 or 80 million people in the US on status. And they are toxic, they can cause an occasional fatality and muscle wasting a lot of stuff like that. So the only two use cases for that one is hereditary hypercholesterolemia, which means you have a super high cholesterol and post heart attack. If you're not in those two groups, you're better off doing Roy's method of fasting or being careful with your ketone, you know, or intermittent fast.   Roy Barker  38:18 So what about Black Label or black? I can't remember, I think that's it, like off off label uses. Like, we designed this medicine for this because I hear that both ways. I hear there are some medicines out there that help other things they won't let them do. But then I also hear that there are some medicines for one thing that they're using for others that cause harm as well.   Dr. Robert  38:42 Something between a third and two thirds of drugs are prescribed off label. So it's completely conventional to do that. The thing that's not conventional is for Big Pharma to advertise there. patented medication for every freakin use under the sun. And there's many, many examples of this in my book, and that's what they get the fines for. That's all this left on the books to get these guys. I mean, research fraud, they sometimes identify some of that, but it's largely done outside of the country. Those studies are accepted, analyzed inside the country.   And I mean, that doesn't seem to do much. You know, they put an occasional doctor in jail for a couple of years for that, but they're, they're obvious their champion, their champion fraudsters, you know, but it's done universally. I mean, again, that Goldacre book is a good source. And I'll mention Whitaker's book about the psychiatrists in the psychiatry he uses. He's a seminal author about that, where he dislikes the data and shows that there. I mean, arguably, those drugs are if they work is for a very narrow group.   Roy Barker  39:52 Is there any studies on on that at all? Do they have to do any research on the off label? Or do they go on go through a whole new clinical trial for those?   Dr. Robert  40:01 Well, that's the thing they're on, you know, I mean, I suppose you see a clinical trials are done to create a patent, which is a monopoly for whatever it is 20 years, you know, from the very start of it. And that's the profitable stuff. When a drug passes off patent, other companies apply to produce it, right. And then in theory, it becomes a matter of supply and demand and whether this stuff really works.   Right. But it's not that clear, because there are all kinds of lawsuits that fall that go back and forth between these these big groups, the patent drug manufacturers, and the generic drug manufacturers, and, and sometimes they're just paid. The generic drug manufacturers are just paid not to produce the drug. I mean, it goes on and on.   I described that in butchered by healthcare. But Did that answer your question? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so. So there are many good uses, there are many good uses for off label prescribing. And in fact, ineligible for physician does that. And I think that there are many, many treatments that are not recognized because they can't be patented. And among these are bioidentical hormones, because pieces of the human body cannot be patented.   In theory, they've got some loopholes, like they patent certain doses of these darn things, which doesn't make any sense to me so. So you go through what's called a compounding pharmacy, which is 5% or less of the total pharmacists, and they are allowed to make a drug only for one person, they can't mass produce the drug. So, and there, there are other constraints on those guys, too, that I   Roy Barker  41:46 yeah. So let's talk for a minute about, there's so many drugs prescribed about polypharmacy. And I know that some in theory are, if we use the same pharmacy, they should catch that, but I'm going to tell you that we use a national brand and have had some that slipped through like nobody's even taken a look at that.   Dr. Robert  42:11 So drug interactions are not studied when the drug is patented. In other words, only one drug at a time is, is studying, right? So we know, we know something about drug interactions from after market effects, and maybe studies that have been done on it. But in the modern nursing home, it's not uncommon to see patients on 20 drugs. And these include that a typical anti psychotic that shortens their lifestyle life lifespan, because it shuts them up.   I mean, they've got to control them somehow, I guess. But 20 medications is a medication farm and not a patient, they are just farming the revenues. And you can imagine these things, the expense of them and the insurance reimbursement and the insanity of the whole thing is just a, it's just a travesty. There are people who are studying this that I cited in butchered by healthcare, and they there are specialties that revolve around trying to take people off of as many of their medications as possible.   So if you're a patient and you're not sick, I would advise you just to be very careful about what you take. Because the indications for conditions that you can't feel like blood pressure have been trumped up. In other words, the standard for when you Medicaid for blood pressure, there was very little scientific evidence that medicating past the upper limit 160 or the systolic blood pressure that trying to get it lower than that there's very little evidence that it makes any difference.   And there's certainly almost no evidence that medicating past 140 systolic makes any difference. And so, especially if you're a senior, that they that, you know, there's there's it's ridiculous, but but the standards have been changed progressively for cholesterol for blood pressure for other medical conditions that are medicated prophylactically. And it prophylactically means before you get sick. So I mean, it's crazy.   The whole thing about the bone density drugs. I mean, that's a that's a crazy story. And these things are very toxic. And they create problems have their own, like fractures and certain long bones like the femur, they create rotty jaw bones, right. And in theory, they densify the bones as well. They are a net loss in my opinion, after reading all about it. I mean, it's it's a crazy crazy thing, and you get those things and they last years inside your body, and they're a shot administered in the office. So the doctor gets 25% of the gross revenue. I mean, it's just it's it's a conflict of interest. Nobody You can get around.   Roy Barker  45:01 Well, some of what led to that, too was, you know, in, in the nursing home expecially was, you know, when physical restraints, you know, people started taking a hard look at that, and they outlawed them. It's unfortunate, but, you know, we call it chemical restraints, all they did was just moved from having them, you know, tied down in the chair with the belt to chemical chemical restraint of the medication that they give them.   Dr. Robert  45:29 So I don't know what there's a good solution for that. But let me just draw a similar point in the insanity field in this psychotic field, right? Well, almost all psychiatric conditions. And these are defined as things for which there is no laboratory test. So the psychiatrists are going almost purely by their gut instinct and talking right, unlike any other medical field, but oh, let's see, I lost my thread. What was I talking about?   Right now we're talking about the chemic, chemical restraints, right? Okay. So, in psychiatry, every single psychiatric entity, like schizophrenia, like anxiety, like depression, waxes and wanes, it goes up, it goes down, goes up and goes down, right? But when we start people on psychiatric medications, it habituates them to the medication, and produces chronicity. So this has increased, or it's thought to have increased the number of people on social security disability, all this crazy stuff. So anyway, that's an that's, I don't have an answer for people who are completely out of it, you know, and letting them go through their thing in a walk facility, and then letting them out when they're when they're doing okay, that might be the way to go.   It's not inexpensive, but the drugs are not inexpensive either. Well, and the bad thing about the some of the, you know, worst cases in the nursing home, especially was it really wasn't about the patient acting out, it was just if you could medicate enough of them, you didn't have to spend time, you know, devote time and resources to them. Unfortunately, it takes a lot of expertise to carefully medicate these people. And you have to have someone who cares about often about people who are demented, you know, and it's, it's hard, hardly anybody. It takes kind of a safe saintly person to be interested in keeping these people clean and in the best possible condition.   And there are private places that do a good job, but the usual nursing home, Medicaid is heavily. I mean, it's crazy. The pharmacies who supply these nursing homes, make millions and millions of dollars per nursing home. I mean, it's crazy. It's like, they turn out blister packs for every patient in the nursing home, often 20 medications, I mean, in the hundreds of dollars a month at a minimum for the for the moderately priced ones, and just break it in, you know, and the nurses pass them out. And go ahead.   Terry  48:07 I was I was just gonna say I mean, that's. So what do we do back in the olden days, When, when, when Big Pharma wasn't in control? I mean, we they did, they did send people with senility and, and psychiatric issues, they did put them away for a while or a lifetime. But there weren't many of them, because they weren't taking the drugs to be able to cause whatever it is, they're   Dr. Robert  48:31 right, we've got a control group for psychiatry, and that's called the third world, right. And they don't have the money to spend on these drugs. So Whittaker and other Robert Whittaker, and other people have looked at that. And they get better results than we do. Our drugs encouraged chronicity and dependency in the third world, they'd lock them up for a while, maybe give them a few drugs, but they don't give them the drugs and definitely the way the way our standards have developed to, to do this, you know, depression, that you know, this chemical, chemical fault in the brain that's supposed to be depression that the SSRI antidepressants are supposed to fix. You've heard about that.   Right? It's a chemical deficiency in the brain. Well, that was made up, that idea was made up by a marketer. That was not there's no science behind that at all. We don't know what the hell's happening in the brain is made up by a marketer. So that thing took hold. And once a bell is wrong, it cannot be unrung. So everybody in the country thinks that the depressed people have a chemical deficiency in the brain. And that means that you have to take the drug forever and pay the pharma company forever. And, you know, I mean, it all falls right, made up by a marketer at Smith Kline and French.   Roy Barker  49:48 So what about allergies have has this overmedication or maybe it's the food source or whatever that it's, you know, we had a casual conversation about this the other day That, you know, as I was growing up, and I'm not, you know, mostly back in the 60s and 70s It's been a while, but it didn't seem to be kids with the chronic asthma, the chronic allergies, peanut butter, you know, things like that. And it seemed like nowadays there are so much   Terry  50:19 more. All right, yeah, they're all they can't have dairy, they can't they're an app have everything gluten free, no peanuts, all of that.   Dr. Robert  50:28 I don't have any specific knowledge about that, except for it sounds to me, like it's part of the diagnosis creep, that has been fostered by industry and abetted by the doctors, you know, just like for the blood pressure, the cholesterol, you know, the the bone density, the bone density story is a is a six story that started in some, you know, medical meeting where they got together and they all decided that bone density below a certain amount was going to be called osteopenia, which is not true osteoporosis.   But then they decided that osteo Pina peenya, had to be medicated with these toxic drugs to prophylactic or prevent osteoporosis, which that's the link was never proven. But now we've got, we got all these people on these drugs, they're getting less popular because their toxicities are more widely known. And who wants to have a patient who has a necrosis or a rotten jaw, you know, I mean, that's, but I guess if you're getting paid 20 $500 for a shot, you know, maybe you're risking, you know, you get a you get a herd of about 40 of men, they're coming in once a month, or whatever it is, you got a lot of money on your hands.   Terry  51:41 So what's a patient to do? That's the hard part. Okay, what do you do?   Dr. Robert  51:47 Right? Well, my wife has a chronic problem. And I be I become her advocate. And it's taken my background to keep her out of trouble. And she's doing very well. But I think that you guys, you guys don't have serious problems yourself. I think you can research what you're doing. You stay away from those drugs, Metformin is okay, but the rest of them are not good. And they'll keep you from losing weight. But if you have a complicated problem, you can go to the best doctors in the country virtually now. And Trump put out this executive order. And I don't think Biden is countermanded. That said that virtual consultations, even on the first visit, are cool, you get it. Whereas before, they would always insist that you come to the office to see them to see you. Because it was considered beneath the standard of care to see a patient virtually or on the phone, especially for the first visit, there's something to that an experienced physician can just look at somebody and they can see physical signs, they can see, they can see stuff they can't see as well over zoom.   Although these are very clear images, it's not as good. You know, they get you get your clothes off and look even without even listen to your lungs or looking, you know, just kind of look them over. And and they get hints to what's going on. And they can lead to good ideas about therapy and diagnosis. But you can go to Stanford, and you can do a virtual consultation with these people. And if they won't allow a first time virtual consultation, fly out there, pay for the whole thing, and then do the subsequent visits, and then get your local doctor to do whatever the other guy tells him to do. So you can get the best care in the country, anywhere you live.   You know, if you've got a few dollars to rub together, I mean, it's not free. But it's not so outrageously expensive that that you can't get it done. The Second. Second thing is, you know, the problem with healthcare is twofold. Right? Have I want to do too much those are the people on fee for service and fever services, enormous conflict of interest, right? It's impossible to get away from I mean, I was a cosmetic surgeon, I got paid for doing breast dogs. I wanted to do them, you know, and I would like to think I never oversold it on someone that had breasts that were big already or something but you know, you got to make the customers happy, right?   But the problem is for fee for service, they want to do too much but the other guys the HMO guys, they're on salary, and they're often incentivized in various subtle ways to do less. So you got to watch those guys and make sure that you're getting the best care from them. They have all the modern stuff. They can do whatever they want, but it often takes a supervising physician outside the system. If you have a complicated problem. If you're have cancer, cancer is there is many different diseases. It's complicated.   Many different specialties are required to manage it frequently. You get a cardiologist involved and you know the cancer doctor and he you know, I mean it just goes on and on and on. And there's many possible And the thing is an art, which doesn't work very well, if it's applied the way the standards go, two months of improved survival is what 95% plus of the cancers get from our chemotherapy. And that's not that's not controversial. Two months survival improvement, right? We can cure about five to seven of these cancers. If we catch them at the right stage. It really I mean, you know, what, testicular cancer, some lymphomas, leukemias, you know, some other some other entities get cured, which is, you know, that's a blessing.   But the rest of it is, it's definitely an art. And if you establish good relationships with the people, if you don't, if you don't think that they're relating to you, personally, you need to go elsewhere. I mean, doctors are human beings too. And if they seem like they're pushing patients through the clinic, and that's what they're up to. You can sense it your your judgment is better than you think. And you go on and study everything you can, if you have friends that are nurses, or doctors who can help advocate for you and learn everything they can, they'll they possibly will be more sophisticated, although sometimes they are just part of the freakin machine.   Roy Barker  56:11 So we're running way long. But I did want to ask you, you wrote another book about hormones. And so we just wanted to touch on that briefly. I know you talked a little bit about testosterone and estrogen earlier, but now kind of what's going on over in that realm? Well,   Dr. Robert  56:28 the interesting thing is, the amazing thing is that every single hormone has been run down by standards groups, right? The FDA has, there's a thing called a blackbox warning the FDA puts on drugs, that it deems it's a postmarket thing, right? They put on rather than send the drug back to the manufacturer, which would, you know, it's very expensive. And in theory, the drug works, they put a warning on the drug.   So theoretically, patients and physicians can be careful about it and not, not, you know, be aware that there there are risks, and they put black box warnings, unwarranted blackbox warnings on testosterone, estrogen and progesterone based on obsoletes drug studies. In other words, the drugs studies were done is called the Women's Health Initiative, which you probably heard of that thing evaluated drugs that shouldn't be used any longer for chronic care.   Okay, like Premarin, Premarin is horse urine, estrogen. Now that stuff has its place. But for chronic care, it has some low level risks, that true estrogen that's Astra dial, which is the compound that should be used is bioidentical doesn't have, right. And, you know, there's a whole series of caveats. But But basically, in testosterone, it's practically unbelievable what's happened with testosterone, they put a blackbox warning on testosterone based on two studies, or they look through the wrong end of the telescope. In other words, they took people on testosterone and look for problems.   So that's the wrong way to evaluate a drug. What you need to do is take 1000 people or whatever half up on the drug half, I'm off the drug and see what happens to them in the future. Right. So testosterone, they've stuck this blackbox warning on testosterone for stroke and heart disease, when this stuff has enormously beneficial effects on weight loss. It's the best weight loss drug we've ever had. It's much better than phentermine.   It has many positive effects. And you guys, you know, are of the age group where you should consider this stuff and you read my book and see what you think I've got referral sources in there. And even a drug as harmless as progesterone, which is the other female hormone. There's a story they started about that was you don't need anyway.   Terry  58:56 So it's it's a crazy I was put, I was given a cream.   Dr. Robert  59:00 I mean, the cream is the cream for progesterone is ineffective. It doesn't give you enough to drop like,   Terry  59:07 I quit. I mean, I didn't take it very well.   Dr. Robert  59:09 You should take oral micronized progesterone, and the doses and everything are in my hormone secrets book. Okay. So that's something that the women should study any woman over 50 should be intimately familiar with all that material. Because you're not going to get it your it's going to be hard to get from anywhere anywhere else. I mean, you can if you go to the right doctor, they can help but there's there's a lot of quote, controversy and the the subjects been just completely covered up. Sorry, Roy.   Roy Barker  59:40 Oh, no, no, no, I just I was thinking you might actually thought of something back kind of on the drug issue is that you know, we talked about how things kind of go around with the FDA looking down over this but I'm able to walk into any drugstore, any grocery store And by any form of some kind of a supplement, and they don't have a my understanding with them is they have little to no oversight except for the company. So most of them come from China to do like, okay, yeah. Oh, yeah, I guess the for briefly on that, you know the benefits versus the pitfalls of you know, walking in and, and one for me that I know as that I was told about was iron like, for most men, too much iron can be dangerous more dangerous than than low iron.   Dr. Robert  1:00:36 Don't take iron, don't take iron, right? But yeah, Terry if you don't have menstrual periods you shouldn't need iron to see. But the reason why you have low iron in the blood blood is you have blood loss, either through mineral or if you have a GI bleed a slow gut bleed, you can get a lower iron. And if you have that you want to check it out. You don't want to just take iron.   Roy Barker  1:00:57 Yeah, yeah, no, no, I wasn't taking it, I have a colon cancer. That was just an example of, you know, one that I know for certain that I've heard is detrimental to men. But then, you know, like some of the others I've heard that they can have interactions with, you know, certain medications that we're taking. So just you know, it kind of the more I've learned about the supplements, kind of the scarier that whole thing is, and the   Terry  1:01:21 fish and fish oil Didn't we just learned about fish? Well, we cut out the fish oil supplements, because we spoke to a neural neurologist, who told us that how it was processed, processes that out of what you need. So to go and get, you know, they have to, they have to cook it at such high heat that it actually makes it detrimental. But you can take there's a liquid three, six and nine, that's a lot more.   Roy Barker  1:01:48 It's more efficient. But it's also like it has all the nutrients that you really need. So little things like that, you know, like the Who would think you know, nobody ever talked to me about this whole thing with fish oil, everybody's like official is good, but it's the process that kills it.   Dr. Robert  1:02:04 I'm not an expert on fish oil I but I understand it's out. The thing I do know about is vitamin D, which actually is not a vitamin, it's a hormone. And you can get your levels drawn of D, your primary care can do that. Or you can go straight through life ext

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Feeding Fatty
Get Rid Of Allergies Once and For All While Strengthening Your Immune System

Feeding Fatty

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Get Rid Of Allergies Once and For All While Strengthening Your Immune System Featuring Dr. Ynge Ljung Even when allergies weren't the main concern by treating them along with acupuncture, treatment results improved dramatically. Eastern and Western ideologies allow a powerful and affordable treatment. This approach creates a lasting effect that brings balance and harmony to the whole being and strengthens the immune system in the process. About Dr. Ynge Since 1995, Dr. Ynge Ljung has been an Acupuncture Physician. She is a BodyTalk Practitioner, Naturopathic Medicine Doctor, Acutonic's® practitioner, alternative holistic healer, and former NAET practitioner. Her experience treating patients in the clinic made her realize that allergies are the cause of much dysfunction in the body and they contribute to many diseases. Even when allergies weren't the main concern, by treating allergies along with the acupuncture treatment results improved dramatically. Throughout her career, Dr. Ynge has been challenged by Western medicine's reliance on treating symptoms typically with drugs, ignoring other factors that seem obvious. She spent years studying ancient healing sources and Chinese truths that she then incorporated into the development of The Allergy Kit. Her extensive education in both Eastern and Western ideologies allowed her to create an easy, powerful and affordable way to “say bye-bye to your allergies” once and for all. This approach creates a lasting effect that brings balance and harmony to the whole being and strengthens the immune system in the process. Speaker - Dr. Ynge Ljung (drynge.com) www.theallergykit.com www.feedingfatty.com   Full Transcript Below Get Rid Of Allergies Once and For All While Strengthening Your Immune System Featuring Dr. Ynge Ljung Fri, 7/16 6:11PM • 49:10 SUMMARY KEYWORDS allergies, people, eat, acupuncture, sugar, blood sugar, sleep, wheat, kids, diabetes, thought, good, autism, feel, bacteria, bad, vaccinations, creates, fasting, talk SPEAKERS Ynge, Terry, Roy Barker   Roy Barker  00:06 Hello and welcome to another episode of Feeding Fatty! This is Roy and this is Terry. So we're the podcasts that chronicling our journey to health. We talk a lot about nutrition, exercise mindset, you know, trying to find the right combination of all of these to you know, have sustainable weight loss or some you know, sustainable health. You know, I think I worry about it more that now you know, getting older.   I want to make sure that I get go into my older age, in the best health I can I don't want to outlive I don't want to outlive my healthiness or I don't want to live longer than my healthy my health. So, you know, it's definitely something that's on our mind. And from, you know, we have a good mix of guests that come on, as well as just talking about you know where we are and then also we talk a lot about diabetes and diabetic. So anyway, today's no different Terry, I'm gonna let you introduce our guests.   Terry  01:06 Yeah, since 1995, Dr. Ynge Ljung has been an Acupuncture Physician. She is a BodyTalk Practitioner, Naturopathic Medicine Dr. Acutonics, Prep Practitioner, Alternative Holistic Healer and former Nait. Practitioner, for experienced treating patients in the clinic made her realize that allergies are the root or the cause of much dysfunction in the body and they contribute to many diseases.   Even when allergies weren't the main concern by treating allergies along with the acupuncture, and treatment results improved dramatically. Throughout her career. Dr. Ljung has been challenged by Western medicines reliance on treating symptoms, typically with drugs ignoring other factors that seem obvious. She spent years studying ancient healing sources and Chinese truths that she then incorporated into the development of the allergy kit. Her extensive education in both what Eastern and Western ideologies allowed her to create an easy, powerful and affordable way to say bye bye to your allergies once and for all. This approach creates a lasting effect that brings balance and harmony to the whole being and strengthens the immune system in the process. Thank you so much for being here. That is a mouthful, especially trying with all of the pronunciations on everything.   Ynge  02:35 Thank you. You had.   Terry  02:39 So you didn't start out in the medical field. Did you? That's that wasn't your initial study.   Ynge  02:46 As a matter of fact, my very first education is as a chemical engineer, many years back.   Terry  02:54 And how did it evolve into this? How? How did you start? Let's talk about a little bit about how you got to where you are today. Well,   Ynge  03:03 I as an as a chemical engineer at that time, they didn't hire Women Engineers.   Terry  03:11 Imagine that.   Ynge  03:13 So I ended up working as an assistant in the blood bank for some time. And then I got married, had kids moved to Bangladesh for two and a half years. And then came back, had another kid and moved to Venezuela where I lived and was an artist and an artisan. Wow.   Terry  03:34 And then I came here in 90, and to the state that you're originally from Sweden, correct   Ynge  03:42 originally for Sweden, but I came from Venezuela and came here and was going to continue I was going to make a mural in Miami with a friend of mine. Because art was is my big thing. trip I broke my arm, my my wrist. And well. So I had a few screws sticking out of my arm. So there was no artwork being done. And I always used to have acupuncture done because that kept my I was a potter, and you know, throwing and this kept me my neck and shoulders relaxed. So I went to acupuncture for my hand and they had where I went, they also had a school. And I said okay, I'm going to sign up for the school.   Terry  04:30 Wow.   Ynge  04:33 And that's how I started. And it took me like eight months. I didn't I didn't get it. I was kind of at the border all the time of making it. All of a sudden I got it. And once I understood because it's different from Not that I was very familiar with medicine at all. But once I got it it was so logical And I was just I love acupuncture. I   Terry  05:03 think it's it's the best. That is something that that I have never done again. I mean, neither neither of us have. Sure. But you know what we did do? Oh, I was gonna ask you this too. And we'll we'll go back. But what do you think about Reiki?   Ynge  05:18 Yeah, that's that's how I started when I came here as well. But the thing is, do you need to have a license for anything you do here?   Terry  05:25 Yes, you do.   Ynge  05:28 You can't touch anybody. So that's why I went with acupuncture because I thought, okay, I want to do something where I can touch people. And I didn't want to do massage. That's too hard. I wanted a little more than that.   Roy Barker  05:41 So what are some good? While we're on the acupuncture part, what are some, I guess, best uses? What would you suggest people to go to an acupuncturist for?   Ynge  05:54 really anything, because it works on the organs, it works. So you don't only look at the organ per se, you look at the meridians. If you look at, for example, the gallbladder Meridian, which starts here goes back and forth over the head and over the shoulder and back, all the way down the sciatic nerve, and all the way to the second toe. And so many people have problems on the meridian on the meridian itself, so also looking at different points, you can see okay, there is a point that's very sore.   Well, that's so that point really is the goal better points do you can advise the person to do something, change their diets, so they don't irritate their gallbladder? So there are many things you can look at. And find out what's going on. Apart from I mean, if even if you just use four needles to relax your body, no, you feel totally relaxed. So you can use it just for maintenance, you can use it really for any kind of practically any kind of disease disease,   Terry  07:11 or So does it make you feel like, like a deep meta deeper meditation,   Ynge  07:17 you know, it's like, if you have a massage, you know how relaxed you feel. But it lasts for a short time, when you do the acupuncture, that relaxation lasts for a long time for days. Okay? So it's totally different. It's on a very, very deep level.   Roy Barker  07:36 So when people make return trips for, I guess, basically the same thing, or do you wait to have a specific need, and, you know,   Ynge  07:47 I like to work with somebody at least 1010 times. And sometimes they have one specific thing they want to work on. And of course, some people they come to they have had it for 1520 years, and it might take longer to fix it, so to speak. But when once their problem is fixed, it's very good to at least once a month to go for maintenance. And just keep yourself relaxed and everything acrobatic can really deduct also if there is something going on. So no, I definitely recommend acupuncture.   Terry  08:27 So any that I mean for in anything from a pain that you may have to a habit that you have like like a smoking habit, or   Ynge  08:35 even with what I do know is of course a combination with my allergy kit, because smoking is an allergy to nicotine, sugar and vitamin B. Oh, I have them treat with a basic allergy kit plus the nicotine abeille for nicotine and smoking. That's the same with alcohol. Really, that's an allergy to alcohol, but we'll be in sugar. You know, people who either they quit smoking or they quit alcohol, they crave sugar. Yes. And that's because the alcohol Of course turns into sugar, but also the nicotine that cigarettes when they harvest the leaves, the tobacco leaves, they spray them with molasses. So by constantly with like the secret so when you constantly smoke, it is sugar. So you get this.   Terry  09:38 I never knew that.   Ynge  09:41 I've had page I had one patient who did everything to quit smoking even going through the doctor and got drugs for it. It didn't it hurt. Her addiction to cigarettes did not stop until I treated her for sugar and wow   Roy Barker  09:59 yeah, that kind of It takes us. I guess that makes a good segue to our next one. This is what I've been waiting to ask you, since we talked, you know, previously a month or so ago, but you make a comment, or a read in your literature that whatever we have an allergy to, we can crave that. So if we're allergic to sugar, we will crave sugar. That's interesting concept. Could you talk a little bit about that?   Ynge  10:29 What were the sugar, it is many, many faceted, in a way. I think when you have an allergy, for example, sugar, you crave sugar. What it does, when you create when you eat sugar, you give into that you eat the sugar, that creates Candida albicans, which is an overgrowth of bacteria. So if you try to get excuse me, if you try to get off of the sugar, the bacteria in your intestines, they're sitting there, give me sugar, give me Show me that can reproduce.   So you'll give in and you eat sugar. It is a little painful for people who try to get off of sugar, because they really have the cravings. It's and I can understand it's hard to how to not to give in. And what the allergy kid does it, it gets rid of the craving. Even though sometimes with sugar, you have to really treat it several times because because of the Candida. So it's like a vicious cycle. If you don't stop eating sugar, you keep on having cravings and you keep feeding the Candida. But it gets easier with the with the energy kit.   Roy Barker  11:44 And you know, the whenever I quit, or cut down carbs when I was first diagnosed with type two diabetes, you know, he said, Look, I want you to stay in between about 40 to 60 carbs a day. And, you know, goodness knows how many carbs I'd been eaten today, I'd be scared to even add to what I was eating a day. But so he told me that like on a Thursday, and so Friday, that's kind of like, that's not feeling too well. And then Saturday, I had such a headache. Like from my eyes up, I felt like the top of my head was gonna blow off.   And then I got scared. I thought I was having some kind of a high blood pressure events. I went to the store to test it. And you know, I thought man, if I just lived through this weekend, I'll be good. I'm gonna call my doctor. And so when I called him he kind of chuckles like, so you must have cut out carbs over the weekend. I said yeah, did He's like, it's an addiction. He said, you know, your body is addicted to carbs. And it's just like working through an alcohol or a drug addiction. You have withdrawals. And he said, If you wait a couple more days that will subside, and you will be okay. But I'm here to tell you it was real. It was kind of scary, actually.   Ynge  12:59 I can understand and I can definitely understand that, that people like you give into it because it is scary. And if you eat the carbs, it will subside. Yeah. But this is a withdrawal. It's like any any drug really. It's a drawl symptom. So maybe it's easier if you do it little by little and not just like quit alcohol or drugs or anything.   Terry  13:30 Cold Turkey? Yeah. No, no, I   Roy Barker  13:32 didn't. But you know, I didn't even know what to expect. So it was just a big surprise for me that, you know, we we think of, I guess, as in, we're conditioned that drugs and alcohol are not good. And you know, we we hear about these withdrawals. But who would have ever thought that you know, carbs? And probably sugar if you did the same with sugar probably make you feel about as bad? Yes.   Terry  14:00 Yes. And I need I mean, I need chocolate. I, I need   Roy Barker  14:07 I need her to have chocolate.   Terry  14:10 To have chocolate for sure. I mean, I don't need it all the time. But you know,   Ynge  14:15 you know, I had a patient who was the same she could not if she had a box of chocolate, she would have one. And the box was empty. Yeah. And I treated her for the sugar. And I don't know, three or four times. And then she came back and she said I can't believe that I had one piece of chocolate and I was I didn't want anymore. And that's how it should be. Yeah. So and when I go back to pre diabetes, it as I said, mentioned before, I recommend everybody to buy a glucose meter. And in the beginning, like a week, I know it sounds horrible.   You have to prick your your finger. But when you go to the doctor and you're fasting, your blood sugar is normal, probably, plus, they say between 80 and 90 is normal, which is not, when you look at functional medicine, it's between 70 and 80. So you don't know what's happening. When you eat, if you just take a fasting blood sugar, right, so you take the blood sugar just before you eat, and then you take it every 15 minutes, for at least one hour, and you see where your peak is. And then you take it every hour.   And until you have your next meal, if you can do that a couple of days a week. And just see, first of all, when your peak is, and you can also check which food is it that I react to, and stay away from that food for a while. And because you can regulate your own blood sugar, you can get rid of your diabetes, but it is it takes it takes work. It takes that you measure your blood sugar. And it takes that to eat the right things in the morning. And if you eat, or you you drink your smoothies, if you put fruit in, or berries, your blood sugar will probably spike.   So these are a lot of things that you can regulate once you know what what is spiking. You have and you know, there are also remedies you can have supplemental type chromium, for example. And so it's a whole program, but you can get rid of your diabetes.   Roy Barker  16:42 Yeah, yeah. And that's something that we have learned, you know, because there was a time that the thought was that, if you have it, you're stuck with it. But you know, we it's not. Yeah, and, you know, I'm even, you know, pretty good instance of that, when I'm doing what I need to do. I can control it with food, sleep, and exercise, you know, yeah, it's important for me to get up and move, you know, after meal go out and take a little walk. Just, that's and that's been my big struggle, I think through this pandemic is just not enough movement, working from home setting here at home. It's harder to make myself get up and go take a walk, you know, we really have to have a struggle with that.   Ynge  17:28 Yes, it is. You have to discipline yourself. I know myself, it's the same thing. I think the population in this country, after this year, it's I mean, sitting on my bad, it's the same thing. So I am controlling my blood sugar. I don't I'm not diabetic, I've never been, I'm not overweight, I've never been my whole family lived to 80, around 80. Nobody has diabetes or heart attacks. But my blood sugar is not good. And it is probably a lot because I have not moved I have not exercised. And because my sleep is pretty good. That's another thing that also if you don't sleep good for one night that can spike your blood sugar. So there are so many things. And so it goes back to stress. For example, maybe you don't sleep good, because you're stressed out.   Terry  18:21 Yeah, but no,   Ynge  18:25 there is a whole I mean, there is a lot to think up   Roy Barker  18:28 there is Yeah, and water intake too. I mean, to me, it's just all these things that we need to do for a lot of other reasons to make our body healthy, but also also to help.   Terry  18:41 Definitely like water is water and an Irish with this warm water.   Roy Barker  18:50 It's funny you mentioned because that is a huge difference between myself and Terry is cheating. go out and buy a piece of chocolate. Take the bite, put it away and save it. Yeah. And then a week later, she's in there looking for me.   Terry  19:10 I'm gonna hide it.   Roy Barker  19:11 I need to eat the whole thing, right that moment or, you know, we'll try to be good and say, Okay, we'll take a little bite and put it away. I know where it's just go in there and try to find it, you know, till it's all gone. He's sneaky. It's not good for you. Yeah. But you were saying earlier that the one lady once you've kind of got her on a better path, she she was able to flip the switch on that, that that would be so nice for me to be able to do that. Because, you know, we anything that we try, we don't want to be restricted. We don't want to be   Terry  19:48 we don't want to say you   Ynge  19:50 know, deprived. We don't want to be deprived. We don't want to say no, I can never have that. No, you can never have a glass of wine. No, you can never have a cup of coffee. Right?   Terry  19:59 No, yeah. I think that's that's exactly what we're if you tell me I can't have something I'm going for it. Regarding whatever you tell me, I'm going to do the opposite. That's terrible.   Ynge  20:09 Yes. But to go back to the blood sugar, since that is one of your things. I think it's is it two thirds or three fourths of the population today is overweight or obese and or obese? And every single one has a problem with blood sugar, but they don't know. How I mean, it's the same with bad diabetes. There is so many diabetics and so many pre diabetics, and they don't have a clue.   Roy Barker  20:42 Yeah, we had a, we had a guest on recently that he had a terrible diet. And he admits it. He was, you know, he told us the day that this incident happened. He stopped that, like the donut store, the pizza store, I don't know, he had,   Terry  20:59 like a Kwik Mart or something.   Roy Barker  21:00 He had all of this crazy amount of food that he was eating, but he passed out and ended up that he had like blood sugar was over 500. I mean, it was   Terry  21:11 he had never been diagnosed with   Roy Barker  21:14 diagnosis. You know, I can only imagine with the way that we live driving through fast food restaurants that and then the bad thing is it's like, think we've transferred that to our children, because they've been raised through drive thru restaurants a lot of times as well. So we're probably just starting out people were young.   Ynge  21:36 Yes. I mean, I'm looking at a children today. And it's the same thing. And babies and they're so fat, and then you see what they give them. You know, toddlers, or even under under one year, they are having an ice cream cone. Yeah, it's it. That and wheat is the worst you can give to a baby. First of all, it destroys their, their digestive system, the wheat does, I'm sure you know about the wheat and the glyphosate and making Not only that, also the protein that is in the way that makes holes in that whole thing.   Roy Barker  22:16 Yeah, I'd like to get you to, to expound on that if you would, because we, you know, we there's, it's, it's so complicated, but it's all tied together, that we hear so much more now. You know, since we started this show, we've learned a lot because they didn't know these things before. But now, you know, a couple things, our gut health, and then inflammation. And it seems that inflammation. It's basically the root of all evil, there's so many bad things that can start with the inflammation. And then we look back to the diet of what causes that. And I think, if I'm not wrong, doesn't wheat, wheat and poor gut health are the beginnings of that   Ynge  22:59 wheat is really the beginning. First of all, wheat is sprayed, like a couple of days before it's harvested. They sprayed with glyphosate with roundup to get rid of the leaves. And not only that, I think they spray even the seeds before they plant them. So then just before they harvest, they spray them. So the all the leaves fall off, and all the toxins go straight up to the kernels that we then eat. And apart from that, it's I don't think it's GMO yet, but it's hybridized and has been hybridized for 70 years. So it's not the same kind of wheat that it used to be.   And so the wheat, it has gluten, which has some proteins that are definitely not good for you one of them acts as an opiate, which makes a lot of people addicted to it. And then the other is that it creates, it's hard to digest even if it's organic, but it creates holes in the lining of the intestines, which means that the partially digested food goes out in the bloodstream. And that's how we get allergies, because then the body reacts to these food particles that are not that are not supposed to be there. Interesting. And they produce antibodies, and that is just allergies. So that's why we so many people have allergies today.   Terry  24:32 Yeah. Yeah, it seems like there's just an excessive amount. I mean, it's you never heard it. You know, when I when I was growing up, you just didn't hear about people being allergic. You know, maybe one or two kids would have some kind of really bad allergy, but now it's like everybody.   Ynge  24:50 Yeah, and also the glyphosate it. You know, they say no, it's not harmful for people, but what it does, it inhibits itself. pathway, the shikigami pathway shikimate pathway that where enzymes and bacterias can travel to go into the intestines and produce the bacteria to digest the food. Well, if that's not there, then what?   Terry  25:20 You can't digest?   Ynge  25:22 No. And then we come to the other thing, and that is that we have the digestive system is our second brain through the vagus nerve, which goes from the brain down to the directly to the connect directly connected to the digestive system. And we get depressant depression. So people are depressed, and how many people I think it's also a lot, the 60% or something are popping happy pills. But they're looking in the wrong place. It's not from the head. It's from the edge digestion.   Roy Barker  25:56 Okay. You know, we had another gal on, he was an optometrist. And he was saying that we they, him and his wife had cut weed out for breakfast, and just we're doing the smoothies, but he was talking about how we can affect some kind of a measurement in your eyes and eventually affect your vision as well.   Ynge  26:20 I wouldn't be surprised. Yeah. And I'm sure. I mean, if we look at diabetes, for example, where if you allopathic medicine, they say, okay, when you're when you're when your blood sugar's 120. You are diabetic. Okay, what happens when you when it's 119? Right. Yeah. And and also, they have proven that both their retinal whatever that causes blindness in diabetes, that is that and neuropathy is already starting to be developed when it's 110.   Roy Barker  26:56 Oh, wow.   Ynge  26:58 So it is much, much more serious than we think. And the eyes? I mean, I think that ophthalmologists, they can see a lot in the eyes. Yeah. So I, that is I think that is maybe even more important to go through then to go for to take a blood test once a year.   Roy Barker  27:21 Yeah. So what about fasting? What what do you what do we, we've seen a lot of information on both sides of the coin on fasting, but what what's your take on fasting?   Ynge  27:33 I think fasting is great. And I mean, if you could fast for a week, I think that would be very good. And a lot of specially with diabetes that can maybe takes a little longer time than then a week and I know it's it's hard. The first two, three days are the worst. And the thing is, I think if you just make up your mind and saying, okay, at least, let's say you fast once a week. And you just tell yourself, okay, tomorrow, I'm fasting. And it's easier than it's easier if you prepare yourself and maybe eat a little less a couple of days before. And be careful when you start to eat again.   Terry  28:24 Oh, yeah. Well, and I mean, if you did that, if you did fast, you know, tried to fast. Once a week or intermittent fasting or whatever. I lost it. See, I need something for my brain to my short term memory. Oh my gosh, I had something. No, it just gives your digestive system time to repair it so so it can fend off whatever it is that is going on. Down there. Right.   Ynge  28:53 Yeah. No, I definitely believe the first day even though it is. No, I'm going out tomorrow night that can't pass now. There's so many are so many excuses. Yeah. So but starting with intermittent fasting is great.   Terry  29:12 Yeah. Yeah, cuz we had spoken the pre show about that we had had been doing plant based eating and only eating at noon and then six or seven o'clock in the evening, and then nothing in between, maybe maybe a smoothie but as much water as we possibly could.   Ynge  29:33 No, that's that can also be a very good way to go into maybe a three day fasting because it is beneficial. It absolutely is beneficial.   Roy Barker  29:44 And you're a big advocate of food diaries as well, correct?   Ynge  29:49 Yes. That's the best way I think to detect what you react to and how you feel every Seeing how your sleep is at night, you know, you write down everything how you feel if you have a downer at three o'clock in the afternoon, or if you feel like a hidden track hit you in the morning, when you wake up all these things to write down that can give you a very good picture of your own health.   Terry  30:20 Yeah, and Roy Roy has a once you get a new Fitbit that is measuring your level,   Roy Barker  30:28 yes, yeah, I just my other, unnamed watch it. It kind of cratered on me, but I didn't use it. Anyway, I was, I was disappointed from the time I bought it. So I went back to the Fitbit. And I just I love it because it does the sleep tracking your heart rate.   And I think the other one did, too, I just couldn't figure it all out. But then this one here has a good prompt, like get up every hour, and get 250 steps in which you know, when I can stay on that, again, you know, like I say is that at the end of the day, you know, I've got 2500 steps already. And you know, I didn't have to go out and do anything. So when when I can add a little, you know, if I can add a morning walk, noon walk, and then an evening walk to that, it just really helps me reach the goals that I have set to do and then the sleep.   Because that's something it's one of my triggers. It's something that sometimes I can't avoid with things that need to get done. So, you know, I can tell the Knights when not when, or they'll tell me you know, these nights when I don't get my sleep. And typically it's links related, I just need to sleep longer. I never have trouble going to sleep now make him go.   Terry  31:53 He's a guy we're talking about. He's a dude, he hit his head hits the pillow and he's out like a light.   Ynge  31:59 I do the same thing with what I do is I try not to go on the computer for an hour before and do some meditation or read or something. And like eight o'clock, I start I just cleaned myself and do everything ready to go to bed. Whenever I start to john, that's when I go to bed. And I fall asleep immediately. And I mean, the brain and the liver, they detox between 11 the score better awesome. But the whole thing is between 11 and three o'clock in the morning. So it is so important that you get that cleansed. So if you're sure that after, you know people who go to bed at two o'clock in the morning, they they really screw their brain off of being cleansed and delivered to it's   Roy Barker  32:53 it's it's big, because, you know, I don't mind. You know, admitting that that is my probably one of my downfalls the beginning of bad things for me, you don't sleep, then you always, you know, always look for food or something to pick me up. I've got to have something to keep me awake and keep me going. And then manage that   Terry  33:15 whole long list of things that you have to do anything. Again, vicious cycle,   Roy Barker  33:23 yeah. And then you don't feel like exercising, so you don't go out. So then you just eat more and set. It's terrible. And so anyway, you know, like last week, or this week one, I think is this week, I had like two or three good nights in a row where I was, you know, my sleep scores in the 80s. And I celebrated. Yeah, I mean, I can't tell you how much better I felt.   Ynge  33:47 Yes, yes. And no, sleep is so important.   Roy Barker  33:51 And now there's more and more studies coming out to that. People that have been sleep deprived through the you know, 40s and 50s are very, very high rate of Alzheimers. So now that's something too, that you get to my age and you start thinking about all these things that we do that really don't affect us right now that you know we live through, but what is the effect, you know, 2030 years, they're going to add it to but   Ynge  34:20 I would just add to that the weight again. Weight affects their memory. And they have proven that if they take out people and I shouldn't say on that age myself. If they take them off of wheat, their memory gets better, their behavior gets better, everything gets better. And for example in autism wait that often that creates meltdowns and temper tantrums and anger outbursts, which they call behavior problems that is really an allergic reaction. Interesting. I also have a book I should tell you about book because I want to tell you that I have a book about   Terry  35:05 autism finding your last child. Yeah, because that's another thing. I mean, that's another thing, you know, along with all the people with allergies, there are all these autistic cases. And I don't know if maybe I didn't pay attention before or if it just wasn't something that was brought out, where, you know, there were so many cases of autism.   Ynge  35:29 The prospect the probe, what do they call the prospect, that projection of autism in 34? is one into 80% or males?   Roy Barker  35:42 So has it? If you look back at the 60s, oh, yeah, for today has an income. Do you know how much it's increased? Since?   Ynge  35:51 I would say it has increased? Like, 890 8%? Wow, gosh, was I I personally, I never knew anybody. I mean, my kids are born 6668 and 70. And I never knew anybody with autism, right? Well, I know my, for example, my son in law has a brother, he was born 66. And he is autistic. But that's the only one that I know from that age group.   Roy Barker  36:19 Yeah. Yeah. Cuz like Terry said earlier, you know, I'm probably just a little bit older than that age group. But, uh, you know, we never had kids with, like, peanut allergies as the big thing. And when I was in school, we never I never knew anybody all the way through school that had any kind of bad enough allergy that they had to avoid, you know, eating a certain food or doing, you know, a certain activity. No.   Terry  36:49 Yeah, peanut butter and jelly. I never even thought twice about taking a peanut butter and jelly sandwich. That was my go to lunch. I just never even thought about it. But they you know, as far as I know, this is a little off topic, too. But we were talking about autism. You know, a lot, a lot of people, not a lot, but it has come out that vaccinations might be the way the vaccination, the MMR vaccination was all mixed up together, instead of doing them separately, that might have been a contributor to that as well. I don't know.   Ynge  37:28 I mean, I can't say anything really about that, more than First of all, I think they're giving the vaccinations far too early before the break the brain barrier. Is it developed? And I think they're giving far too many in too short of a time, then I don't think I mean, all my kids had all of their illnesses them is also on the whatever they're called German, measles and mumps, and they're never sick, and have never been sick. They were always always in school never had to stay home because they were sick. Oh, I think that is a natural way of building the immune system. I think far less kids died, died from measles, then they die. comes from the   Terry  38:24 Adas trying to join the conversation. She's paid something in the backyard. Oh, might be a deer.   Ynge  38:32 But I don't know if that's the cause. But it can be that these kids are very sensitive. And because Autism is a whole body problem. And I think that the vaccinations at that age can trigger the whole thing. So it is the only cause but because I know that that I have even had patients that I've treated for allergies, that they were diagnosed as autism kids, and they are totally normal. And these kids that all have allergies, they all have bad digestive problems. Most of them suffer from constipation, for example, which makes them more toxic, of   Terry  39:17 course to Right, right. Well, let's, can we go back to your app, the allergy kit? How would somebody even know to I wouldn't even know what to think I was allergic to or even know to come in to get tested. How would somebody   Ynge  39:36 with you? I consider that everybody is alert. And more or less of course, I've met one single purse person during during what 23 years that I've worked with allergies who did not have any allergies, really, who was a person who was from the islands, Jamaica, I think it was a boy In the boot in the boonies grew up with everything. Nothing was sprayed, they had their piglets and their chicken and no vaccinations. That's the only person I've seen that ever. I tested him he was not allergic to anything.   Roy Barker  40:14 So what about the old dairy about eating dirt? Not necessarily eating. But you know, like,   Ynge  40:21 I totally believe in that too, because there have been some studies and Swedish studies. One was about kids that grew up on farms, and they really dirt. And they had far less allergies and asthma, for example, then kids who did not. And then another thing was families with sounds funny, who had dishwasher machines. Their kids had more allergies than then in families where they wash their dishes by hand.   Roy Barker  40:56 Yeah, you know, I, I have, there was a story not long ago talking about that, that the dishwasher may actually sterilize too good. And it's taken away some of that good bacteria need not because I was just saying, like, my kids, we, they were raised that ballpark, you know, me and their mother played softball, and, you know, they were covered in dirt. And we, you know, we, we bathed them, and we had good hygiene, but we weren't fussy, like, Oh, my gosh, they got a speck of dust on and we got to get that off. We weren't really like that.   And you know, in both of them grew up without any allergies or health issues. But conversely, you know, it's I think it's more rampant now than before. But it's like, we don't you know, that we don't let the kids outside. And if they do, that, we got the handy while making sure that we knock off any dust particle that may get on them. And anyway, I just think there's a lot to that. As far as maybe more than natural allergies from trees and plants and things like that, you know, they get   Ynge  42:02 Yeah, exactly. They don't have a chance to build their immunity if everything is clean. And as babies, I mean, babies First of all, a lot of them are born with Syrian, Syrian, what do you call that?   Terry  42:15 c section? Yeah.   Ynge  42:16 C section. Okay. So first of all, they are not paid in what they are when they go through the canal. And they don't are not breastfeed fed. So normally, I mean, they go through and they get all the all the bacteria from the mother's vagina. And then they suck the breast and they get the course bacteria from there. And then, I mean, they suck on everything naturally. But today, they're kind of not allowed to do that.   Terry  42:42 Yeah, it's like their hands are taped together, behind them, you know, so they can't do anything and get dirty, then none of that? Well, the other thing, it's,   Roy Barker  42:52 I think it's a function of society. That this time is like, in my, in my age, you know, when especially in summer, when the sun came up, we were outside playing and run in doing all kinds of stuff all day long. And, you know, it's unfortunate, like, in my kids, they couldn't even ride their bikes to school. If they did, you know, one of us had to ride with them and make sure everything was okay.   And so I think, you know, that's been another negative is just that we, the kids aren't allowed to roam the land like that, like we did, you know, we were in we we lived in the city, but we were on the edge. And so we were always out somebody's pasture. We were out in their pond swimming or fishing, or, I mean, you know, we were, I'd come home filthy.   Terry  43:42 Yeah, and everybody now has a pool in their backyard or uses their and gets exposed to all of that stuff, too. But they're clean. You know, they can they get cleaned that way. So they're exposed to all these chemicals and pesticides. Oh, yes.   Ynge  43:57 The chlorine and yeah, yeah, that's not so good, either. I mean that the chlorine, of course, affects the thyroid. Yeah, because the thyroid needs iodine. And that is a halogen. And chlorine is a higher halogen. So it kicks out the iodine nutrition. And I think that's one of the reasons why so many people have thyroid problems. Because we bathe and I mean even water and some people they drink tap water and, and all the cleaning with Clorox Clorox, Clorox. Well, yes. Yeah.   Roy Barker  44:42 Awesome. Well thought about that. Yeah, interesting. Well, we want to appreciate you and thank you so much for taking time out of your day to be with us. It's been really good. A lot of great information. You know, one thing we always ask our guests is what is happening? habit that you have in your daily lives that you feel adds a lot of value.   Ynge  45:07 I think my most important thing is to meditate, even if it's only for five minutes. But I meditate in the morning before I get up. And I tried to get it in before I go to bed too. And, and also, even if also what I tried to try and remind myself, when I get a little stressed, it's just to put my hand on my chest and my heart and take a deep breath and just feel grateful for life.   Terry  45:44 Breathe like deep breathe.   Roy Barker  45:46 That's, that's good advice. Yeah, you know, cuz that's something I've started. I've never really had trouble going to sleep. But it's just, I feel much better. If I take a few minutes before we go to bed. I will set and number one write in my journal, but then also just sit there and take, you know, five or 10 minutes to just think, reflect, try to clear my head. And it's so much easier. It's so much better than going to bed still. Without these thoughts of the day still with you?   Ynge  46:21 Yeah, because it's that makes it difficult for people to fall asleep. So I think, taking a few minutes before going to bed and the shut off the TV shut off the computer an hour before?   Roy Barker  46:34 Yeah, definitely.   Terry  46:37 Yeah, that's a great idea.   Roy Barker  46:39 Well tell everybody how they can reach out and get a hold of you, you know, who do you like to work with? How can you help them? How can they get ahold of you? And then also be sure and tell us how we can get your book.   Ynge  46:50 Okay, so I have a website, which is theallergykit.com. And I have an other website, which is Dr. Ynge drynge.com. Where they can I do the body code, which is another, I don't do the body, talk over the phone, but I do the Body Code. I do coaching apart from the other tickets, because a lot of people need more help than just eliminating their allergies. But they can go to info@theallergykit.com and write me an email if they want to reach me and have a conversation with me. Okay, I'm happy to have a consultation and talk to them about the other educate and about whatever they want to know.   Roy Barker  47:45 Okay. Oh, yeah, we'll include all of the websites and email address in in the show notes as well. But show us your book. Tell us the name of the title again. And I guess we can get that through the website or Amazon.   Terry  48:01 Yeah. or Amazon? Yes. Okay. Finding Your Lost Child.   Roy Barker  48:06 All right. Awesome. I like that cover too. I love the puzzle pieces. That's great. Yeah, thank you. All right. Well, thank you so much. that's gonna do it for another episode of Feeding Fatty. Of course, I am your host, Roy. I'm Terry. And you can find us at www.feedingfatty.com. You can find us on all the major podcast platforms, iTunes, Stitcher, Google Spotify.   If you're if we're not on one that you use, please reach out, I'd be glad to get it added to make it easier for you to listen to us. You can also find us on all the major social media platforms probably hang out on Instagram a little bit more than anywhere else. So reach out, send us a message there. We'd love to interact with you.   And also a video of this interview will go up when the episode goes live on our YouTube channel. So be sure and check out our YouTube channel for all of our past episodes as well as our website. We have all of our past episodes up there. So anyway, we appreciate you listening. Until next time, take care of yourself and take care of your health.   Terry  49:06 Thank you. Thank you   Speaker - Dr. Ynge Ljung (drynge.com) www.theallergykit.com www.feedingfatty.com

Feeding Fatty
Balanced For Life Program, Eat and Live Cleaner From the Inside Out

Feeding Fatty

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 19, 2021 48:10


Balanced For Life Program, Eat and Live Cleaner From the Inside Out Featuring Sherry Diamond It's so important to strive for balance in life. This is from eating in general, to what you eat, when you eat, how much you move, sleep, drink water, and much more. Combine this with living clean, eating clean, and using clean products we can certainly improve our health and our outlook on life. Living from the inside out certainly has its benefits. About Sherry At age 64, I found myself waking up two to three times a night, and in a “brain fog” in the morning. I had bumps under my skin, and not feeling at my full potential. When I went for my annual medical checkup, my doctor informed me I was “knocking on the diabetic door” and needed to change the way I was eating. Since I am terrified of needles, I knew I needed to pay attention. I couldn't imagine having to give myself injections of insulin every day. Around this same time, my brother started teaching me about bacteria, how it forms in our bodies, and that it eventually causes high blood pressure and diabetes, as well as the negative effects it has on people with autoimmune diseases. This resonated with me because I have had Hashimoto's Disease (a thyroid problem) for 27 years.  I immediately started to eat cleaner, and honestly, after about 10 days, I already was feeling so much better and sleeping better too! By the time I lost the first 40 lbs., I could feel “the shift” in my brain for the first time in my life. I could picture what I would look like when I reached my goal weight. For the first time in my life, my brain and my body were becoming friends. I started feeling good from the inside out. This is when I began researching cleaner products for my personal use and at home. In the Stay Balanced 4 Life program, I will share all of these products and the information I've learned about them with you. I am not paid for any endorsements of these products.   The best part of reaching my goal weight is that I feel healthier at age 67 than I did at 47. I have more energy, more confidence and I'm moving through life at my full potential now. Once my brain and my body became friends, there was no stopping me. I finally gave the 232 lb. me a permanent eviction notice and she is never allowed back in my house again! This program is individually designed for your unique needs to help you feel better from the inside out.  www.balance4life.com www.feedingfatty.com   Full Transcript Below Balanced For Life Program, Eat and Live Cleaner From the Inside Out Featuring Sherry Diamond Sun, 7/11 2:08PM • 47:52 SUMMARY KEYWORDS eat, people, day, food, ice cream, life, roy, sherry, sleep, bad, journey, thyroid, drink, doctor, diabetes, margarita, noticed, good, night, sit SPEAKERS Sherry, Terry, Roy Barker   Roy Barker  00:00 Hello, and welcome to another episode of Feeding Fatty. I'm your host growing and I'm Terry,of course we are the podcast journaling chronicling our journey to health and wellness that can consist of, you know, our diet, what we eat, not necessarily a diet and then also exercise in movement, which is imperative for us, we do not move enough. And then also, you know, our mindset and being able to sustain our changes, we really have to get our minds right and wrap it around. So you know, and we also talk about our journey a lot and some different things like diabetes, which I struggle with. And then we also have professionals in the field on And today, we are glad to have Sherry Diamond with us, Terry, I'm gonna let you introduce Sherry.   Terry  00:00 Sherry Diamond is an entrepreneur and a coach for her program balance for life. She teaches others how to live from the inside out and not the outside in how to eat cleaner and use cleaner products, no matter their age or ailments. She developed the program three years ago, after much research and lost 103 pounds. She is 67 years young and does not take a lot of medication. And Sherry, I'm gonna let you talk to us a little bit about your journey. Three, almost four years ago, how you started out and and why you ended up where you are today. And how you did that.   Sherry  00:00 Well, hi Roy and Terry, it's so fun to be with you. I was so looking forward to today, because we've talked a few times. And you know, you guys resonate with me. So it's so fun to be here with you today.   Roy Barker  01:43 Thank you for that. Thanks for your day. Yeah.   Sherry  01:46 So my journey has been, you know, as I've told you, I come from a Jewish family where food is everything. It's like our life. And how I was socialized as a child really is what got me to be a yo yo diameter and be overweight is it most of my life, but really, as an adult in my 40s and 50s is when I think I was really at my worst. Um, and it's funny, because when I look back now how I was socialized as a kid, you know, if we were all together with our family, and everybody was eating or having ice cream, and it was a party, perfect, eat whatever you want, but come home from school and put your hand in the cookie jar. And my mom or my grandma would say, Yeah, I don't think you should be eating that. You might be getting a little too fat. And they said those words to me when I was a kid. Oh, by the time I got older, you know, I didn't know if I was supposed to eat the food, hide the food or what I was supposed to do with the food. And a lot of times I suffered in silence, but not terrible. Because I have to say, being overweight never stop me from anything like I dated. I got married, you know, men like me. It wasn't like people looked at me like I was a horrible, obese person. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, it didn't affect me that way. But when I was 64, he went to the doctor. And she told me that I was knocking on the diabetic door. And up until that point, and still now the only medication I take is for my thyroid because I have I have hypothyroidism. And that's the only pill I take. And I'm grateful for it. So I thought you know what, if I'm knocking on the diabetic door, I'm terrified of needles, I am not going to take insulin. So I better start looking at what's going on with food. And honestly before that, maybe a couple years before that I had a bad rotator cuff. And it was I was in terrible pain. And they didn't know if I was going to have to have my shoulder operated on but I did it. And I started researching foods that were going to help heal my shoulder and it was all about antioxidants. Because antioxidants are just you know everything blueberries, strawberries, all the dark berries, they're great for us. You know, spin is everything that has antioxidants, it's one of the best things you can eat. So I started doing that. And I learned that certain foods I was eating especially with too much sugar are terrible if you have problems with your joints or anything like that, and everything that causes inflammation. So I went on this journey and my actually my brother's the one that started me on the journey and started talking to me about eating cleaner and plant based and different things. And I did and I lost 103 pounds. I'll never get fat again and I tell everybody that I killed that fat girl I buried her and I watched her die and she's ever allowed back here again.   Roy Barker  04:42 Yeah, what a good feeling and you know, talking about the family not in this isn't placing blame but, you know, we kind of I grew up in that same situation, but it was more of the emotional eating like, you know, if you came home and had a bad day, it's like, oh, no, well, let's have something to eat that'll fix you up or it's like You know the celebration like yay things were awesome for you Let's celebrate and I know I kind of have a an addiction to ice cream and I love ice cream could eat, you know, just a ton of it all I can eat it for breakfast lunch and dinner. And you know, we've kind of talked a lot about it and I think I figured it out is that you know, whenever I would be with my grandparents, or my dad whenever I would work with them in the summer, like either helping them on their job or maybe just mowing the yard for them. You know, both of my grandpa's would be like, Hey, you know we've worked hard enough today let's go down to one of them went to the Dairy Queen and one of them went to the drugstore. Let's go get an ice cream and then you know, I   Terry  05:41 think back back when drugstores used to have ice cream. Cover wagon days. Sorry. Yeah, no, I   Roy Barker  05:48 mean, you know, like with my dad when I would go to work with him in the summer I can remember vividly setting in the Dairy Queen with the jukebox playing a Van Morrison song, you know, eating an ice cream sundae taking an afternoon break from you know, being out working hard. So, you know, when you think back about that, you know, that's, I think it's partly the ice cream. That's good. But it's that relationship. It's the happy times. It's just, you know, so much wrapped up in the emotion of it. No,   Sherry  06:16 you know what, right? I knew there's a reason I liked you. I came from a family where my dad, my dad literally could sit down after dinner and eat a bowl or to have ice cream and lay down on the couch and take a nap. Right. And ice cream was like, I love ice cream. And up until probably I can't believe I'm going to admit this, but I will is that up until maybe 10 years ago, eight years ago, it was no problem to sit down and eat a pint of Haagen dazs peanut butter and chocolate ice cream. It was delightful. But guess what all but all we were all we're doing. We're just stuffing everything that we're not dealing with down in the form of food and happiness. And we're calling it something else. And that's really what it is.   Roy Barker  07:06 Yeah, yeah. And I can say that was one of my bad parenting skills was you know, because we would go out we get the kids one of those, that the pots like that, of course, I would come home and eat mine before they even get the spoon out of the drawer. You know, and they were like normal eating people. So they might take a few spoonfuls out and be like, Oh, I'm gonna save this for later, may put it in a freezer, well, then when they get sent to bed and I get hungry at night, you know, I'd go in there and scrounge around and eat one of theirs, you know, then they get up all hacked off the next morning and my daughter she finally caught on. And so she'd start buying flavors that do I didn't like and wouldn't go in there and eat. Yeah. So anyway, you know, I think, I think our you know, it's, I don't, like I said, I'm not placing blame, but I think it's just patterns that we have grown up with in our lives that, you know, some of us have probably taken to the extremes and don't do well with and so, you know, that's part of what I'm trying to do is, you know, the ice cream has to go. But you know, it's funny, even now To this day, you know, sometimes when I you know, I'll be out working in the backyard, and I'll come in like, Oh, you know what, why don't we go get an ice cream, you know, goes to the store. That's just my go to thing. So.   Sherry  08:24 Right. But what's funny about what you just said about let's have ice cream, and about blaming, I never blamed anybody. Because honestly, when you sit and you look back at why you do the things you do, it all comes from a place of love. Because our parents, our parents didn't know any better. That's what they did. So they taught us what they knew. But for some of us like me, it was you can eat it when we say you can but then there's other times when you can't, because you're getting a little too chubby. Yeah, yeah. You know, but I will say that the ice cream. You're right, right. It has to go.   Roy Barker  09:02 Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's gone. It's hard, but Terry's good about helping me with that for sure.   Terry  09:09 Oh my gosh, I try not to have any snacky anything. You know, it's hard. You have to have snacks. You just have to have good smell. I know. She means Ron. Yeah, I just mean Yeah, the the bad stuff.   Sherry  09:24 I'm gonna send you a recipe that's delicious. For dark chocolate peanut butter cups. And they're made with almond butter and they taste the next best thing to Reese's Peanut Butter Cups. And that can take place of the ice cream.   Terry  09:39 Okay, I want that. I want that because I am a peanut butter chocolate person when you're talking about the Haagen dazs peanut butter chocolate that was mine. That was my go to   Sherry  09:50 write in fact, when I make them which I don't very often but I make them when I feel like I need something sweet because I eat dark chocolate. Yeah, and um When I make it, it makes like 24 or 30 pieces, and I will eat two or three at a time. And I can't do that. So I give most of it away to my neighbor or a friend. And then I keep like five pieces. So I eat it once in a while, because it'll keep for a month.   Roy Barker  10:15 Right? Okay, good. So when you when you decided to make the change, you know, I understand the points that led up to it. So what are some things that you did? I guess, you know, in the first few days, or first few weeks, what are some of those initial steps that you took that you've been able to stick with?   Sherry  10:35 Well, I would say a lot of it was that mentally, I made a decision. Because I realized that you know, as much as we don't want to admit it, situations that I've been in, or people I've been around, or relationships, whatever it is, that aren't really good for me. There's people that are trying to enable us, you know, and being around the food police. And I noticed that it was around food police, if you like, are you supposed to be eating that? Well, meanwhile, they shouldn't be eating it either. And you don't I mean, if they're saying to me, sure, they're watching me what I'm doing. And I decided I wasn't going to tell anybody what I'm doing, I'm just going to do it. Because then you don't have to listen to anything anybody has to say because it doesn't matter. But what's interesting is, then when you start to change, some people don't like the change that you're making. So they're not supportive. And I made a decision that I'm the only one to be going forward in my life around people that are supportive of me, that are my cheerleaders that want me to do better in life. And if I make a mistake, they're going to say to me, you know what, here's where you missteps. But I'm still your friend, and I love you. And that's the kind of people I want around in my life going forward, not the NACA people who are creating all this negative energy and Oh, woe is me. And, you know, because they don't want, they don't want to change or no, they should they try to make me feel bad. Because I did know, this isn't about this isn't about anything else. I did the work. And that's it. And I and I never say to anybody else ever when I go anywhere, and anybody who knows me will attest to it. I never say to people, you know, you shouldn't be eating that. That's not good for you. I never say that. Because people have to live my mother used to always tell me you have to live and let live. Right. And whatever you do, you do Just don't tell me what I should be doing. Because obviously what I'm doing is working.   Roy Barker  12:36 That's right. Yeah, no, it's it's become a lot more important, not only in this journey, but in a lot of things, a lot of other things that we're going through, it's just, you know, you got to stay in your own lane, run your own race and right you can't and I think you know, in business we talk about you are the some parts financially and in your career, but were the people you surround yourself the five people you surround yourself with, you know, that their average income as well as is and but I think it's the same in this wellness journey as well. We have to really protect ourselves from all this negative influx that others can tend to get to you. And it's it's okay to be selfish and say, You know what, we just don't want to be around, we can still love you. We can still like you. But we don't have to be around that constant barrage of negative. And, you know, I understand that. Because sometimes I take it as a backhanded passive aggressive, like, Oh, well, you know, I know that you're eating a certain way. So we cook this or, you know, what can you eat on your certain D and I'm like, you know, there's really no certain deal. It's just, you know, for us, we're not on anybody's plan or anything, we're just trying to eat healthy, trying to do more, you know, plant base, not that we've cut out all meat or fish or whatever, we still have it if we want it in a good combination. But instead of making the meat the focal point of the meal, you know, more the plants the focal point of the meal and then a little bit of protein But anyway, it's not. I   Sherry  14:17 guess, it's not about the meat in it. I eat grass fed beef. I eat fish. I just don't eat chicken because it's a preference. I don't eat turkey. I eat omega three eggs. So you can still you see that's the misconception. plant based means you can't have anything that's meat or fish. No, you can. But you see the people that are saying that to you, boy, they're going I know I shouldn't be eating this. But let's make it about you. Right. Right. Good for you that you don't respond.   Roy Barker  14:49 Yeah, I mean, I just have to say look, this, it's we're just on a path of our own environment. To be honest, if I want a piece of chocolate cake, I'm going to sit down and eat one Should I eat one? And do I choose not to try very hard? Yes, the past that stuff up. But you know, I think the point that we tell ourselves are try to tell ourselves, you can't do something. You know, some of us are strong willed enough to say, I will show you that I can eat not only one piece of that cake I can play.   Terry  15:20 Oh my gosh, you tell me I can't do something I'm doing.   Sherry  15:24 Yeah, I understand that. I'm a rebel child, when you know every time you tell me. No, no, it's been my favorite words. since I was three years old. All you have to do is tell me No. And inside. I'm going really?   Terry  15:36 Show You heard me too. I so do that. Oh, my gosh.   Roy Barker  15:42 Oh, go ahead. No, I was gonna go ahead.   Terry  15:45 Oh, no, I just wanted to talk. Okay, so you said that you are you? You have hashimotos? Is that correct? Correct.   Sherry  15:53 Sorry, I'm hyperthyroidism. My thyroid doesn't move. Really?   Terry  15:58 Yeah, that's this the same as me, you know, I I have been taking, let's see, when was I diagnosed probably 2020 to 25 years ago with that. And I, I do like you I did, I'd lost about three or four years ago, I lost about 8590 pounds. Wow, I just quit taking every medication I was on. And the separate was one of them. But I did end up going back on it because because my blood work showed that I need to and I fluctuated you know, five to 10 pounds here and there more. But I've tried to balance like Roy's type two diabetes with my hyperthyroid his and his hypertension, you know, trying to incorporate everything all in one meal for you know, to address those certain situations. It can you do that? Do you have to address every thing? No, currently can it all? It all can kind of be the same thing? Do you have any words of wisdom for that? Because?   Sherry  17:19 And the answer is yes. Yes. And yes. There. It's one program for everything. Okay. Okay. So for me, I can't get off my thyroid medicine. The only thing that's happened to me which is good, is I you know, that's my goal is to get off of it. But I don't think I really ever will because I should have taken it when I was a kid. But our our doctor told my mom when I was a preteen and going through puberty, that No, it's just baby fat, and she'll grow out of it. We don't need to test your thyroid and my mom listened to him. And I didn't get diagnosed until I was almost I was 4041. My hair was falling out and I didn't have any energy. And I was sleeping at five o'clock in the afternoon. So I went to the doctor and found out that my thyroid completely shut down. And I started taking medicine. So I've been taking it for 27 years. But I am going to tell you that hypothyroidism, any kind of thyroid, autoimmune, any autoimmune disease, it doesn't matter what it is high blood pressure, diabetes, anything that you take any medication for, other than maybe an occasional aspirin is all about the food. And this is like you know what, we've talked about a million times about food being medicine. I used to go Oh, yeah, I'm so sick of hearing food is medicine. And guess what? I was such now. Now I'm almost like a hypocrite because no, really because food is medicine. Like what was wrong with me? I wasn't I didn't need I wasn't ready to listen. But you too, and everybody in the world that wants to eat better. All you have to do. There are certain foods that I teach you in my course you just have to let go of and everybody thinks this is a horrible thing. Like people say to me, does that mean I can eat cottage cheese every day with canned pears for lunch? That's right, you can't. So if that's so terrible to give up? Because you're going to swap it with food that's going to not only keep you full longer, it's going to take away your cravings. Yes, just give me one week to show you. And I promise you everybody feels better. My primary care physician   Terry  19:34 is on my program. That's amazing. When I read that, oh my gosh. How did that transpire? Me You went in   Sherry  19:41 and I inspired her because because I'm the one she's the one that told me I was knocking on the diabetic door.   Terry  19:48 And then,   Sherry  19:49 you know, and every year I come back and she's like, Oh my god, and then when I came back a few years ago, she's like Sherry, you are like an inspiration. She only needs Lose maybe eight pounds. But she told me she's got a lot of belly fat. It's because she's stressed out and all kinds of other things. And then she's not eating good. So she's she said, I need to be on your program because I know you know what you're talking about. And I need to listen to you. I was like,   Terry  20:16 I was floored. That is a great, Oh, my gosh, you can't get a better endorsement than that.   Sherry  20:23 Yeah, and she doesn't have she's not on any social media. So I can't get her to do a testimonial. But right now she's going through some personal things. So you know, the only thing that I have is I have her permission, but I don't really want to do it is to show her email that says, I need to be on your program. I'm bloated. And you know, and she gave me permission to talk about it. But I don't really like to put people's business out there. You know what I mean?   Terry  20:51 Yeah. Right. Yeah.   Roy Barker  20:55 Also, what are some other long term things or, you know, as we start through this journey, you know, I know that we we start down one path and like us, you know, we've made not major shifts, but we just, you know, we try to shift a little bit to make things work out for us. So, what are some other things that you've done for yourself?   Sherry  21:19 So one of the things that I think everybody needs to do, you know, one of the reasons I put together my plan is people would say to me, Wow, you look so good. You probably, you know, feel like on top of the world, and honestly, the best part of losing 103 pounds is no lie. When I look in the mirror, I go, yeah, you look good. But I'm not I'm not the type of person that goes, Oh, yeah, you're like all that and a bag of chips? I really No, really, I'm not like that. The thing that's so rewarding for me is that I have never felt healthier. Because one of the things that I that happen is people were saying to me, you know, I'm so busy. I'm so busy, I can't do this, I can't do that. And I thought, Wait a minute, this is why everybody's running around with their chicken with their heads like a chicken. Okay, what's the same chicken with their heads? Thank you. Oh, my gosh. And I said, It's not easy if it was easy with people do it. So I made it so easy that if a six year old in your house can read my food list, anybody can do it, I made it so easy. That was a and b, I realized that people have to make time, you can't get up and work 14 hours and take care of kids and do this and do that you have to take an hour a day, you have to go for a walk, you have to do some kind of exercise. Because once you start eating better, doing better, thinking better and moving a little better, your brain becomes clear. And you think better, right? And the next thing you know, everything in life is skipping along and all of a sudden, you go Wow, I've never been this happy with this much energy on top of the world I could do, there isn't anything I can't do. And that's how I feel. So you have to do   Terry  23:10 a little bit of everything. And sleep is a huge component as well, I'm you   Roy Barker  23:17 should have we should have just muted or when I had the chance,   Terry  23:21 oh my god, he can stay up till you know, one two o'clock in the morning. Because he has to get so many things done on his list. But then he'll just be so exhausted, he'll come to bed, you know, and of course, he's a dude. So he falls asleep at the drop of a hat. You know, as soon as his head hits the pillow, he's out. And then, you know, then then a few hours later, he's up again, trying, you know, and I know, well, I have issues with it too. But Sleep Sleep is just such an important component of being able to complete, complete the whole picture, you know?   Sherry  24:01 Well, I am gonna say you're absolutely correct, Terry, but I understand why.   Terry  24:07 Sorry. Well, I   Sherry  24:08 understand how Roy is because I used to be like that. I was like that at a time in my life. Where it was like one more thing and one more thing. And one more thing. And before I knew it when I was in my late 40s. I was suffering from sleep deprivation. Because I was going going going I was telling people Oh yeah, I can get away with four hours of sleep. No. And then when you cut out all the noise around you, and you try to go to sleep and you start eating cleaner, you get tired. You go to sleep, I sleep seven hours a night, sometimes eight, and I never I hardly ever wake up I sleep like a child.   Roy Barker  24:50 Yeah, and it's to me sleep. And I know this and you know Terry's jokingly given me a hard time because I know this sleep is a bad term. For me, because when I wake up in the morning a little bit tired, then I want to eat more all day or, you know, at 10 o'clock at night when I've got a few more things I want to do, like if I just have that snack, so it to me, it sets off really bad eating habits. And I trade it. I've said this before, I think on an earlier episode, but I traded in my bigger, well known watch fitness watch. And I just didn't like it because I didn't use the bells and whistles on it went back to the Fitbit. And they have got a really good sleep score component. And I actually hit an 83 last Wednesday night, I was so excited because usually not that good. But anyway, I've really tried to start monitoring all of this, because we there's an old saying in business, you know, we can't change what we don't monitor. And I think that's good for us in health, the sleep, the steps, the blood sugar, you know, all of these different things that we may know about that we need to monitor because you know, when I have some really bad sleep scores, my next days are not that good, because I'm tired. The brain fog eating worse than I don't want to exercise because I'm tired. And I've eaten but it's just   Sherry  26:14 And can I just say one other thing for you, Roy, because you do have diabetes, that not sleeping produces more cortisol, the cortisol in your produces belly fat. And when you have diabetes, it's not good. So you're producing more cortisol by not sleeping good. And that's why the brain fog and everything else I know about the brain fog, when I remember, when I was in my like, late 40s, early 50s. I was working for a big telecommunications company. And I was working 1012 hours a day at home, working, working, working. And then I would go out at night with my friends and eat pasta. And I get up in the morning. And I felt like I was in a coma from food. But it's a food coma. Right. And so you really need you should be careful, because that is a that is a key that's going to be key with you along with food.   Roy Barker  27:14 Yeah, and I noticed the last month has been terrible. We've just been assaulted by ones and zeros of the world, the digital stress that we've been through has been crazy. But you know, I had very little sleep. And I noticed that my blood sugar was extremely high. And extremely pro long time I was having trouble controlling it. But it's funny, because that night, you know, last week when I finally there was a couple nights in a row that I was pretty close to being in the 80s my blood sugar was way down, it was much more easier to manage. So definitely saw that for sure. And in the food coma, you know, like ours around here is going to the Mexican food restaurant with the chips. And the Margarita is they have a lot of these flavored ones, they have this syrup. That's just very, very sweet. And so what I would notice is the next morning when I would wake up, you know, sometimes it'd be till like 10 o'clock, my head would be so clogged up. I think I have a food allergy too, because I could actually, you know, it's just like a some kind of allergy that my head would be so stopped up till 10 or 11 in the morning before I can finally get out from under that.   Sherry  28:31 Well listen, nobody loves chips and salsa and some beers better than the other Not anymore. But you could still go out and drink and have fun. You just can't drink margaritas. Right? What you drink tequila?   Roy Barker  28:49 Well, that's what we talked about, you know, it's been a month or so ago. We maybe as a table it was it was May 5, we went up to the local restaurant and we were eating had a margarita too and came home the next day felt bad. And I just told Terry, I'm like, okay, here's the thing. We went up there for socialization for me and you to, for me and her to sit and talk. We didn't need the chips or the Margarita, you know, why can't this is the thing for me. I'm not saying everybody but for me, why can I realize that? It's fun to go up there and sit on the patio and enjoy. I could do that with a glass of water glass of tea and eating a piece of grilled chicken or a taco salad, you know, make healthier choices, be in the same atmosphere and have just as much fun. It just doesn't sound that much fun.   Sherry  29:38 But it is but you're absolutely right. Because I go out and I go out to eat and I go out with my friends. And you know one of the things that we'll say about alcohol is that depending on how long you've been drinking, you get to be a certain age and I noticed this when I was starting to eat cleaner, that drinking a beer was horrible and doing different things. And so I stopped doing it. And the only thing, the only alcohol that I like to drink, I like to drink champagne, and I like to drink tequila, and champagne, you can only have one glass. So I cut that out. Because if I can't have at least two, sometimes three, then it's not a celebration. Right? And so now I just drink, I could sit by tequila for a couple hours, and I'm good. But when I feel like going out and drinking, you know, which isn't very often, I'll have more than one. But that's it, because then I know how I need to eat during the day. So I don't have to worry about the scale. And and I never do because you don't have to count calories on my program, you just have to eat clean in you know, certain times of the day. That's all it's so easy. I mean, it's so easy.   Roy Barker  30:53 Yeah, and people don't think about the caloric content. I'm not a big drinker. Anyway, we may go out once in a while and have one but, you know, I referenced this as a friend that she had had the lap band put on and we used to my high school class used to meet every Thursday night, you know, we just have a little get together. And she had had the lap band in, she got to where she started gaining weight. But what I noticed was that these little get together, she you know, she might have three or four of these margaritas. And so I asked the guy one time, not in front of her one trying to embarrass her, but I asked the guy, what's the caloric content of those things? never really thought about it? About 12 to 1500. So, you know, or somebody that was assuming, you know, 4500 calories, just in drinks alone in one evening. And so, you know, we don't think about our I don't never really thought about the impact of things like that.   Sherry  31:52 Yeah, it does have an impact. And as you get older, you can't I mean, for me, I rarely drink. Um, and I don't feel like it because it feels different now that my body feels so healthy. It actually gets in the way.   Terry  32:09 Oh, yeah. That That makes a lot of sense. Well, and, and really, it's not too late, ever to start.   Sherry  32:19 This thing, nobody knows that better than me. You know, I started in my 60s. And everything fantastic in my life, including my program, and my business partner, Karen and working with her and everything we're doing together, this is going to be when everybody's retiring and hanging out, I'm doing exactly the opposite. I'm going to be working and having the best next five to seven years in my life. And then I'm good. And you found something that you love to do. And some people it takes a lifetime to do or they never find that balance, you know, to do something that they love. And to make a living at it. No. Well, I always knew I'd wind up here, I just didn't know when it really because my whole life when when I this is why I teach people about living your life from the inside out. When I look around me now and this isn't a bad thing. And I'm not saying anything bad about anyone. So I want to make it very clear. But for me personally, when everybody was chasing the marrying the richest guy and having the most money and having the cars that everybody says oh, look what you can afford. That stuff is all nice look, I like nice things like everybody else, but I wasn't chasing it. I was chasing happiness and being myself and being who I am. And you know, I moved away from home when I was young, and all that stuff. I just wanted to be on the journey of me. And here I am at 67 and I'm the best I'm standing in the best legs I have ever been in and doing exactly what I love and want to do for the rest of my life. And I I couldn't be happier.   Roy Barker  34:06 Now that's awesome. It's an awesome thing to remember sometimes when we ask ourselves but why if the Why is just the money or the fame or the fortune probably need to rethink that when you because you know when you get to a certain age like like I am you start realizing it's the relationships it's the time you know, like yesterday. I hope that told the story once I hope it's not repeating myself if I am you can stop me but you know we had a taping that canceled yesterday afternoon so we loaded up the dogs and just went for a walk and it was the best thing you know, we haven't done that in for ever. But you know, try it. I guess this last week you know making a resurgence and thinking about us more our health and doing those but instead of us saying hey, let's go eat somewhere was like, let's go for a walk somewhere. And it was a much better decision for us.   Sherry  34:58 Well, yeah, and you change the person of your brain. I'm going to tell you every single day, every single day I fit it in, whether it's morning, afternoon, the evening, it doesn't matter. I take my headphones and plug them into my phone, and I go for an hour to a two hour walk every day and listen to music and think and read, it just resets your brain and you think about all kinds of things. instead of staying up half the night, go for a walk and listen to music or just sit down and meditate or go sit outside in the backyard and lay in the grass, you know, anything, just something that's completely different. And you'll see how your perspective and everything changes. Right? Exactly.   Terry  35:41 Yeah, that's that's really important. And meditation, you know, we've been getting into meditation a lot more. Well, this year for sure. But that helps so much. And I gotta tell you, I I love to listen to loud music with my headphones. But I love to scream, sing and I try not to do it to Roy but every once in a while I'll blurt something out. off key for sure. But I just love to scream sing and my you know, if I'm in my car, I'm like, I'm cranking it up. And that release. Oh, there's nothing like it. It's awesome.   Sherry  36:18 I love it. I do that to me. That's all I do. I just blast the music and let's go right.   Terry  36:24 That'd be fun. And somebody walk in, you know, scream sing. I'm gonna have to try that one. I'll do it with Roy. That'll be fun. We'll get some good looks.   Sherry  36:33 Well, two guys, you don't live closer. I would go walk with you every day. Hey,   Terry  36:37 I come out that way. I'm calling you. Alright, let's go. Okay.   Roy Barker  36:41 So before we start wrapping up, the one thing y'all are talking about I was interested in is the thyroid issue. Are there certain things that are good bad that you have to watch for that? Or is that just something that medication is really all you can do for it.   Sherry  36:59 Um, now, for me, when I was when I thought I was doing when I was trying to lose weight, you know, and maybe yo yo dieting, I noticed that I was eating certain foods. And even though I was losing weight, my belly was so fat. And I still had that belly fat, which is, you know, like we talked about before, that creates illnesses. That's where the illnesses start, you know, in your, in your gut. And so for me, the medicine is very important. But the foods that for sure, you have to cut out you have to cut out sugar, and you have to cut out wheat. I don't care if the doctor tells you because you're diabetic, you should eat oatmeal or a piece of wheat toast for breakfast. I'm going to tell you don't do it. Okay. I mean, those kinds of things, you know, anything White is horrible when you have diabetes, it's horrible. It's horrible for all of us. Because there's a saying, if it's white, it's not right.   Terry  37:56 Yeah, I've heard that. Right. I mean, all the starches, all the everything.   Sherry  38:03 And it's not about keto. And it's not about calories. And it's not, it's about only one thing, and I can't give away all the tea. But I am going to tell you that it's the one thing that's on my food list that you can't it's left out of every single food. And that's the key to having a healthy inside so that you can live from the inside out. Right. Okay.   Terry  38:27 Okay. Yeah. And well, I was gonna say, and I had heard about the wheat as well. And then the sugar and the sugar. Yeah, the white everything white. Yeah, we had had,   Roy Barker  38:39 I don't want to know that. No, I just anyone interrupt but the we had an eye doctor on. And he was saying, and I don't know that you'd have to go listen to the episode because there's a lot of probably doctor terms in there. But something about he cut out the wheat and everything in the dairy in the morning. And he started having him a smoothie that you know, was based on kale or spinach and some other things, you know, maybe some berries in the right quantity. But there's a there's another score that you get for your eyes. And, you know, he said that this improved their score by not having that wheat in the morning for breakfast, that it was really detrimental. And him and his wife took whatever they took this test together and scored like what 10 or 11 Yeah, and I think he said most people were down like six or seven or eight. But anyway, you know, there's a lot of other besides just the weight and how we feel there's a lot of other implications to other functions of our body that go along with this food as well.   Sherry  39:49 Exactly. And you know what i what the doctor said. I'm sure all of it is true, because the things that you swap out the foods that you swap out for, you know, Like a piece of toast, or the oatmeal or the cereal with milk, you'd be surprised. Just within, you know, a short time you can tell the difference. As time goes on, it's very apparent when you're eating cleaner foods.   Roy Barker  40:16 Yeah, and then the, a couple more things, we don't have to elaborate on it. But we've also learned that, you know, so much of our health starts in our gut, even our brain health, and that, you know, we've got to be sure and take care of that with what we're putting in. And, you know, that gets us back to the original thing that we, you know, you brought up was that food is medicine. And it really is, if we eat the right things in the right quantities, we can make ourselves so much more healthier.   Sherry  40:46 Absolutely. I mean, absolutely. Because, you know, it's like what you said earlier, Roy, about the way you eat when you don't sleep good. And then you have this food, food fog, like brain fog, because you grab the wrong snack or you did something because you get a rush for a few minutes, and then it goes away. But when you're eating clean all the time, you stay fuller longer, and you don't get that kind of rush like you do from sugar, the rush you get is that you can actually feel the food. Like you can feel it in yourself. It feels so good. And you start craving good food, right? Instead of the bad food. And that's the best part was like now going and eating ice cream. It I look at it and I go I can't believe I ever did this. Like why would What? What I want to eat this. It's not even, it doesn't even appeal to me anymore.   Roy Barker  41:45 I'm getting there. Not quite. I'm almost there. We don't go near near as much. So I can be glad when I would be hard standing in front of it. But I'll be glad that day when I can have the strength to stand in front of and say I'm not having that.   Sherry  41:59 Well, if it doesn't come through the door and you don't put it in the freezer, you can eat it.   Roy Barker  42:05 Well, yeah.   Terry  42:06 I'm this doctor. Yeah. I mean, not sta lk. Er, although no. But I am the pantry Stalker and the fridge stalker. So yeah.   Sherry  42:17 Well, you're, you're, you're doing a good job. But I think that you need to just let it sit in the freezer in the grocery store for somebody else.   Terry  42:29 My advice away that   Roy Barker  42:33 All right. Well, Sherry, thanks so much for taking time out of your day to be with us. Before we get away a couple questions. First off, what is something that you do in your daily life professional or personal, just a habit or a tool that you may use something that adds a lot of value?   Sherry  42:51 Well, one of the things I do every day when I wake up is, you know, I don't meditate in the traditional way of meditating. But I get up and I sit without my phone on or anything for 10 minutes. And I just think about today is going to be a good day. And I'm grateful for everything, you know, and I do that. But then the other thing that I do is, I you know, and I've really been doing it my whole life is I get up and I'm ready for another day. And let's go and it's not going to be perfect. But let's have a good day. And let's just keep moving forward and being positive. Because if we're positive and we help other people get to where they want to go, then life is is terrific. You know, I think your attitude is really everything. Right? And move your body every day.   Roy Barker  43:34 Yes, walk. Yeah, that's important. And that's something you know, especially through the pandemic, just being feeling like not feeling like I am blessed that I enjoy what I do. But that can be a curse, because I can sit here for extremely long periods of time, you know, not get up and move. But another great thing about this Fitbit is it's got a 250 step an hour reminder. So, you know, every hour, I get up, make sure I get you know, just walking around the house, just make sure I get my 250 in, right. It's it's nice because it compounds and at the end of the day, you know, I've got 2500 steps. So if we go walk in, or go to the gym, or whatever we do, you know, I've already got a pretty good, you know, start on trying to get to my numbers every day. So yeah,   Terry  44:26 anyway, and a small step. That's what we've been finding out. I mean, every day more and more. It's it's beat into us that the small steps, it's all about the small steps.   Sherry  44:37 Yeah, just put one foot in front of the other every day and be happy. And whatever it is that you really, really want. You really have to ask yourself, what do you really want because if you really want it bad enough, then you're going to do it. But how bad do you want to see and that's the thing I had to ask myself how bad did I want it? I want it bad enough that I needed to change and that's that The key word is change.   Roy Barker  45:02 Alright, Sherry. Well, thanks again, tell everybody who do you like to work with? How can you help them? And of course, how can they reach out and get a hold of you.   45:11 So I want to work with anybody and everybody, anybody who is struggling in any area of their life, especially if it relates to food, you can go to our website, it's www.balanced organically.com. And my link is balanced with the number four life. So it's www.balanced4life.com you can send me an email at Sherry s h e r r y @balanceorganically.com, and you can go on our Facebook page. It's called balanced4life. And messaged me reach out to me and I just want people to know that for us, you know, my business partner, Karen, I'm so grateful to her every day, she she knows that she is one of the best things that ever happened to me. And for us, we do not want people to, it's not about money. So if you go on our website, and maybe you can't afford exactly the amount that I charge, just let me know. And I'll work with you. Because my thing is, I want you to be healthy. This isn't about money. It's about getting healthy. And so if being healthy is something you want to do, then get in touch with me and we will work it out with you.   Roy Barker  46:24 Okay, all right. And we'll be sure to put all that in the show notes as well, so y'all can reach out to Sherry, again, thank you so much. It's been very informative. We appreciate it very much.   Sherry  46:34 You guys are the best I had such a good time. And you know what, even after this, please reach out to me for anything, I am going to send you the recipe. But honestly, I know and I said this to you in the beginning, we were meant to be friends and stick together. Alright.   Roy Barker  46:52 Almost every reason we love doing these shows is because we meet so many fantastic people from all over the world that we wouldn't have been exposed to otherwise. So it's always a blessing for us to meet people like yourself. So thank you for guys. Thank you. Thank   Sherry  47:06 you for everything you guys do the best and have a lovely lovely day.   Roy Barker  47:09 Okay, thanks. that's gonna do it for another episode of Feeding Fatty. Of course I am your host Roy and I'm Terry, you can find us at www.feedingfatty.com. We're on all the major podcast platforms iTunes, Stitcher, Google Spotify, we're not on one that you listened to please reach out we'd be glad to add that to make listening easier for you. We're also on all the major social media platforms probably hang out on Instagram a little bit more than anywhere else. So please reach out there if you'd like to interact. Also, a video of this interview will go up on YouTube when the episode goes live. So be sure and check that out. Till next time. Take care of yourself and take care of your health. www.balance4life.com www.feedingfatty.com  

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Resolute Mindset and Laughter Have An Inherently Positive Correlation

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Play Episode Listen Later Oct 12, 2021 59:38


Resolute Mindset and Laughter Have An Inherently Positive Correlation Featuring Cathy Nesbitt Laughter might be a miracle cure for a lot of things that ail us. The best parts are that it's free and contagious. When we laugh a deep belly laugh it makes us breathe in very deep bringing more much-needed oxygen. A lot of breath to shallow anyway. You actually burn calories as well kicking your brain into high gear. Also leads to an endorphin boost. About Cathy Cathy Nesbitt is a Worm Advocate & Founder of Cathy's Crawly Composters (est 2002). This environmental business specializes in vermicomposting. Laughter wellness is her latest offering. Simple solutions for today's challenges. Worm composting, sprout growing, and laughter yoga. Cathy Nesbitt is a certified Laughter Yoga Leader, Teacher. Appointed Laughter Ambassador in 2017 by Dr. Madan Kataria (founder of Laughter Yoga est 1995) Since 2015 Cathy has been leading Laughter sessions at assisted living facilities, summer camps and other venues. She shares her energy, passion, generosity and vast professional experience to help you take advantage of the natural health benefits of laughter yoga. Cathy chose Laughter Yoga because of the profound benefits she has experienced when she first discovered this unique, fun and easy exercise modality. This is a simple exercise system that anyone can participate in that will increase one's overall feeling of wellbeing while decreasing feelings of stress. Wonder of Worms and Simplicity of Sprouts We offer simple solutions for today's challenges. Worm composting for amending the soil, sprouts for eating, laughter for overall health and wellness, and now Organo Gold, reishi mushroom-infused coffee and tea. Vermicomposting is a great way to make the world's best soil. Discover how worms convert organic matter into nature's finest soil amendment known as castings. Worms are going to play an ever-increasing role in waste management, soil production and therefore food security. Sprouts are considered nature's superfood. Grow sprouts at home, school, work. Laughter wellness is our latest offering. Discover the magic of laughing for no reason. Cathy's Club Website www.feedingfatty.com Full Transcript Below   Resolute Mindset and Laughter Have An Inherently Positive Correlation Featuring Cathy Nesbitt Sun, 7/11 11:36AM • 59:19 SUMMARY KEYWORDS laughter, laughter yoga, people, laugh, worms, sprouts, cathy, stress, thinking, cuckoo, important, called, life, terry, mung beans, enzymes, roy, tapping, composting, assisted living SPEAKERS Cathy, Terry, Roy Barker   Roy Barker  00:00  Hello and welcome to another episode of Feeding Fatty This is Roy necessary so we are talking about this podcast consist of chronicling our journey through wellness and you know in the beginning we started out with more of what we ate our diet not a diet but our diet and we've kind of moved you know into exercise and now we've really focused a lot on mindset because making any sustainable changes you know it just has to begin in our mind before we can really achieve it over long periods of time and that's one thing you know we talked about we struggle with we can do most anything for a month two months, three months but you know, we need to do things and put it together for many many years to come. So anyway, from what we do is we have guests on periodically experts in the field and then we also do you know some of our updates as well when those are needed but today is no different. We have an awesome guests, Kathy and I will let Terry introduce her.   Terry  01:10 Hi Cathy Cathy Nesbitt is a health and wellness advocate. She's the founder of Cathy's Crawley composters, Cathy sprouts and Cathy's laughter club. She is a certified laughter yoga teacher appointed laughter ambassador. And since 19 or since, excuse me since 2015. Cathy has been leading laughter sessions at assisted living facilities, summer camps and other venues. She shares her energy passion, generosity and vast professional experience to help you take advantage of the natural health benefits of yeah laughter yoga. She's she is a worm advocate and founder of the Cathy Crawley composters, which I mentioned recently or earlier. This environmental business specializes in Vermont composting, I've been practicing that word left. Laughter wellness is the latest offering. Cathy, welcome to the show. I just butchered all of it. I was trying to read from everywhere because you have so many things going on. But I want to get the verb vermicomposting. How are you doing today?   Cathy  02:22 Thank you. Thank you. I'm so excited to be on your podcast.   Terry  02:25 Thank you. Oh, my gosh. I also wanted to mention you're a multi award winning environmental innovator.   Cathy  02:31 I love that bio that I wrote.   Terry  02:37 Well, you did and then I kind of picked it out here. So how did you get started with? Well, start wherever you want to you want to start with the words.   Cathy  02:48 Let's just start Let me tell you what my working title is. Okay. Please. My working title is Cathy Crawley laughing being queen. So waiting for all of that you just offered right worms for amending the soil sprouts for eating and laughter for overall health and wellness. So I started my worm enterprise back in 2002. And just quickly to get into how that happened. I'm located in Canada, just north of Toronto, largest city in the country. Our landfill closed in 2002. you sitting down? I see you are starting. We started shipping garbage to Michigan from Canada. Oh, sorry. I know not my fault. Not me, the government. My government and your government by the way. Yeah, yeah. No, no, they didn't do right. They made in a business arrangement. So we So shame on us as Canadians for shipping our garbage out of the country, almost 200 garbage trucks every day from the Toronto to Michigan. like Wow, thank you. Well, it's shopping 1000 trucks a week like holy. What are we thinking as people? So shame on us for shipping our garbage out of the country but double shame on the Americans for accepting our garbage for cash? Like what? Who would who would? Oh, let's take the Canadian garbage because they got to get rid of it. There's this right. We're only the second largest country in the world.   Terry  04:17 Running anywhere. Apparently,   Roy Barker  04:19 I was just gonna say it's not like we don't have enough of our own garbage that we can't deal with.   Cathy  04:24 Anyway, I'm not for that like that. That's the shameful part. That's the part that's the base. That's what gave me my driver that time like that is what is happening. And as of guard, avid gardener and composter, I knew that I had a solution and indoor solution in Canada we have winter people don't want to compost outside in the winter. So this is indoor composting worms in the house. So in hot places like Texas. Right. Outdoor composting can be a challenge because it gets too hot. It dries out right So indoors the perfect solution, if you live in cottage country and you have bears or cougars or some kind of wildlife, you don't want to compost outside sending your Okay kids go put the stuff in the compost, or you might be taking your own life inheritance. So this is a solution for everywhere. So back to Toronto. So 6 million people in the Greater Toronto Area, half living in condos, townhouses without space for outdoor composting. So they don't even have a solution. And yeah, so In came the worms, and I started my worm enterprise, like a whole series of things lined up for me to start my business in 2002. And by the way, that's the same year I started sprouting. So not everybody knew about worm composting, they still don't 19 years in. I'm doing my best. Yeah, so in 2002, my very first exhibit I was exhibiting, you know, at some kind of trade show, there was a gentleman selling this broder that I sent you, and it was flying off the shelf, it looks like a spaceship, right. And so I was like, Huh, why is everyone buying that thing? And they're not buying my worms. Like, you know, I really believe that I had a solution. And everybody needed what I had, but they didn't want what I had. They needed it, but they didn't want it. thing. It just is right. So there I was. I'm like, Oh, I have a solution. I got this. Okay, I've got this garbage crisis solved. Yeah, come on. And then it's like, oh, well, you know, all the naysayers. Like, oh, what if the worms get out? Is there smell that or do worms? And that was like, cool. Anyway, oh, so back to Tony. So back to the sprout growers. So when I saw I said to him, Hey, how come everyone's buying that? What is that thing? I didn't know anything about sprouts are sprouting. And he told me all the magic about sprouts. And I'll get into that in a moment. But so I was like, Oh, 2002 was a huge year in my life. And I hope that people that are listening, realize when you hear something that pings in your heart, you're like, Oh, what's that? That's, there's a message for you. There's something there for you. So I was like, Oh, this guy 72 at the time, he's 92. Now 92 still living on his own still in the business still, like super healthy. Okay, that's enough about him. It's all about me. 72 ballroom dancers. So like, super healthy, like still working 72 still working those shows. It's hard work. When out there being in standing in front of the public, right? Like, people always want to deal and you know, it's it's not easy being an entrepreneur. And I was like, wow, okay, so I was like, Okay, I'm gonna do that. So he said, if you're gonna do this, start your day with with two tablespoons of the sprouted mung beans. Here they are. Have a container here. Yummy. Day with two tablespoons every day for the enzymes. I know. We're all over the place. I hope this Okay.   Terry  08:03 Here we go.   Cathy  08:03 Yeah. Yeah, so So I started my own business and started eating sprouts, which is being my health plan. I didn't know but I didn't. I didn't even know that I would have a business. You know, when I worked. I would change jobs every year because I got bored. I didn't know I was an entrepreneur. I didn't have any entrepreneurs in my family. You know, I just was like, I was a secretary. And I was a great secretary, because I was chatty. And I connected everybody. And I thought that was my lot in life. So I was good at it. But I got bored. So I needed to always like, you know, I was always just looking for the next job to to conquer.   Terry  08:48 I can relate to that. Oh my gosh, I've done that too. I have I have had every kind of job you can imagine. And oh, it's crazy. It's experience it is it is experience and nothing's a failure. Everything's a lesson right?   Cathy  09:04 Yeah, whatever jobs that people have where it's like oh, that's it. I don't even want to say a job because all jobs are meaningful and serve a purpose at the time. And it really gives you a good training ground even if you're like oh my boss is so mean good if you're ever a boss, don't be mean.   Terry  09:20 Right? Right. Oh my gosh. Kathy Crawley Laffy been queen. I love that. Okay, let's talk about I know I want to go back to that too. But we're here we are bouncing I want to talk about the laughter the lacquer, how important is laughter in life.   Cathy  09:39 Oh, during this cuckoo time more important than ever really more important than ever and the laughter how I came to the last so I talked about how I got to worms. That's how the laughter came about. So here I am merrily going about wanting to put worms in every living space. I can do it. I got it. You know, it's important. People need what I have. So of course they'll eventually find that out. They'll figure it out. They're still not but okay.   Terry  10:06 We have to help them assess that, you know?   Cathy  10:08 Yeah. So about 10 years in, I think was about 2012. Like one more person said no worms in the house. So I was like, Oh my gosh, how am I ever gonna put worms everywhere? If people are still saying, oh, and I was just thinking, maybe I should just get a job like, it would be easier, right? Like, why am I trying to save the world? Why? Why am I doing this? Why am I caring? Like, I'm the one that put this big mission on my shoulders. I could take it off to like, okay, but worms, nope, no longer. But that, but but I know that that it's really important. So anyway, I was at a business meeting and the speaker, the first speaker introduced laughter yoga, and I don't even do yoga. I don't do yoga, like it's but I was like, laughter yoga. I love laughing, huh. So I was intrigued. And then I was at a business networking event that same week, and there was hundreds of people there. The very first woman I met was a laughter yoga teacher. Oh,   Terry  11:05 wow. Okay, there you go. There's your sign.   Cathy  11:09 There's your sign, right. So I'm very, I listened to those things. You know, I'm 58. Now. So after decades of not listening, you listen.   Terry  11:19 I'm getting there. I'm almost.   Cathy  11:22 So So I was like, wow, I said to her, oh, laughter yoga is mainstream, because I heard about it twice in one week. So you know, somehow these messages come to me sooner than other people or I hear them before other people. I don't know what what it is. But the worms, you know, sprouts, laughter all these things are here. I didn't invent any of them. I'm just marketing them better than anybody else. I'm bringing it. I'm the messenger. Yeah. So I was like, Oh, I love this. And then that woman happened to have. Toronto is a huge city. she happened to have a laughter yoga club laughter club, in the same neighborhood where my mother in law lived. And I love my mother in law. She just she recently just passed. No, it's fine. Because I came to her laughter yoga because of her. So now when I do laughter, yoga, she's there with me. So it's, don't be sad for me. So I was like, Well, hey, Mary, you want to go to this thing? And she trusted me like, even though I do these cuckoo things. She always trusted me. Right? She was like, I don't know where I'm going to go. Whenever Kathy asked me to do something, I go, because it's always going to be different. So I said, Hey, do you want to go to laughter yoga, she's like, what's that? And I said, I don't know. Let's go check it out. So we went for dinner, and she said, we better not have garlic. I said, that's their problem. So we went had dinner went to laughter yoga was weird. Like, it is an awkward. You came to my club Terry, like it's it's kind of an awkward thing, like laughing It's not jokes, or comedy or anything. It's like, Huh, but once you do it, and you actually allow yourself permission, and I will talk about it in a moment. So we went we had fun and then you know, you sleep. Well, you did. So we would go every every month that was once once a month only. Not enough but once a month. And then the club kept getting smaller and smaller. And in Toronto, it was in at one of the busiest corners like condo Ville everywhere. So 10s of 1000s of people at that corner. They just didn't know, they didn't know there was this laughing club they didn't know. So she had to close her club because she rented space and she wasn't making money, right? I mean, she was she was not a charity. So she closed her club I got sad. I was like, Okay, I need to do this. I got trained as a leader. I loved it so much. I got trained as a teacher. And now during again during this cuckoo time. I'm being called to do it so I'm doing laughter yoga, I'm getting paid gigs. My my laughter yoga has almost my income has almost replaced my worm income. Wow. Wow. Because we need it we have this mental health tsunami It was here before it's just being visible now. Now the people that are really struggling are struggling even more now because they're just on their own. They can't go any they can't see anyone or   Roy Barker  14:11 and I think as we come out of this, it's it seems to be more amplified here that there's just a lot more, you know, bad acting of things. And anyway, I think, you know, I think we had some help and support through this. And then as we come out of it, it's just gonna really amplify it even more. So I think it's, it's timely. And the other part I didn't know when you're doing the introduction, I kind of went oh, wow, is delivering that into assisted living. I mean, what a great What a great thing that you know, they need that laughter because, you know, I'll just tell our personal story right quick that Terry signed up for one of your I don't know if you call them sessions or times class, so she signed up for class and, you know, I was over on the other side of the room working but I I heard her start kind of laughing and being a little hysterical. And I saw I kind of, you know, started paying more attention and just hearing the laughter. And it just made me start laughing, even though I wasn't participating. But I think the biggest thing that has come out of this is as we're out in life, and you know, something happens is like, I you know, I'm probably a little more wound tight tighter than Terry. So I'm the first one to be like, true, you know, and he can, she can see my blood pressure. Yeah, exact steam   Terry  15:33 coming out of his, his collar, all that,   Roy Barker  15:35 yeah. So she can recognize it, and then she will just bust out into laughter. And then it makes me start laughing. And then you forget about whatever it was. And so it's actually it's an awesome therapy, to use with other people, you know, around you in your life to kind of break that.   Cathy  15:56 Oh, it's thank you for sharing. It's a magic. It's a magic potion that, you know, laughter actually was squished out of us by the ancient Greeks. Because when people are laughing, and they're connecting, and they're just like, having so much fun, you can control them. Interesting, right? So don't laugh at church. Don't laugh in school. What do you kids laughing out? Like, what are you doing? They're just laughing. They're just like, laughing that's it. Let me join them.   Terry  16:22 And it was something that I mean, I didn't even know that I needed it. Kathy. I really didn't. And just and I was a little apprehensive. I mean, I am not I don't do yoga. I mean, I do a little but not, not that, you know, not like a whole class or anything like that. And I'm like, okay, laughter I love Laughter But the yoga part mom, maybe I should. And then when I when I came on, I would just like, okay, these guys are kind of kooky. Everybody's laughing there's nothing there. They're not laughing for a reason, in particular, except for it's contagious. It's just contagious. And it really did bring me a lot of energy. So every morning after I probably for the whole week, after I just, you know, in the morning, I would just go you know, and Roy, and I would just start going and did not stop for a few minutes, you know, and just periodically throughout the day, and I mean, that laughter just really does bring you a lot of energy. And you have there's an acronym DOS, what does that stand for? If that laughter brings?   Cathy  17:29 Yes, laughter is the best medicine. We've all heard it and I say have you had your daily dose dopamine, oxytocin, serotonin, and endorphins, the left drugs, the left drugs, versus when we're stressed, we're not breathing properly and decreasing cortisol? You know, we need a little bit of cortisol to get us off our butts. But we're in a really stressful time. And North America even is even more tightly wound to use your word ROI than other places like we're, you know, we only get two weeks holiday.   Terry  18:06 Yeah, if even that, I mean, you have to work up to that. Right.   Roy Barker  18:10 Well, there's so many people that just give it back. I mean, we're in I think it's, we're in a position people feel like they can't take off because they're gonna lose traction, or, you know, their boss is gonna say, well, you're not very dedicated you're taking off for and I think you'd be surprised how many people give back their days every year even that they have not because it's like, I don't have anywhere to go or you know, because even staying at home a staycation still fun still. But I think it's that pressure that we feel that we just can't do. A lot of people can't do it   Terry  18:43 that we're replaceable. Everybody,   Cathy  18:46 how what what a way to live our life. That's like that's living from fear from scarcity, right? With abundance. We really do need to rejuvenate, right? Yeah. Like we're important not like put your oxygen mask on first, when you're flying the flight attendant, say it every time.   Terry  19:04 Flight Attendant that was one.   Roy Barker  19:07 Know, even as adults, and being a parent having kids, there's nothing more satisfying and peaceful than sitting out in the backyard and listening to your kids run and play and laugh and, you know, just that are going to a school and hearing the laughter So, you know, why do we somehow we feel like we have to grow out of that as adults? I don't know. I don't think it's that. It's, we think it's not acceptable. But I guess because we are so wrapped up in so many other things. It's just one we forget to do.   Cathy  19:42 It's so serious. We really are a serious society. It's just you know, again, the competition. We got to do better. We got to do more, make more, be more. Yeah, have more, right instead of just like ha, I mean, even during this cuckoo time. How often does Somebody asked me if you've taken your vitamins Did you get outside for a walk? You know, did you connect with somebody today? Like, I'm just concerned that nobody's asking about our health. They're just not asking about our sickness.   Roy Barker  20:14 Yeah, well, more is that sometimes the, the other thing is less is more. You know, and we've, in the last few years, you know, we've made a conscious decision to downsize from the things that we had, you know, especially when we had kids around, it was a different life. But now, it's like, we don't need all that stuff and things and, you know, barns full of things that we've accumulated, never use. And it's very liberating when we can break that cycle and just try to focus more on us instead of things.   Cathy  20:51 Absolutely. You know, when we have a lot of stuff, then we need, like barriers to keep our stuff safe. Right? Somebody might take our stuff, or you know what I mean? Like then. So then we're thinking about all of that stuff that we have. It's, it's so liberating. To to yes to doff your stuff.   Roy Barker  21:13 Yeah, that's the other thing is that whole, the importance part of you know, I never locked my door until Terry came around, and she kind of was a little freaked out about it. Like, there's really nothing in here that, you know, I would rather than take what they want, and I don't have to replace the door. No, because then it's like, you know, they break the door down. And then thanks, Devon, then. But anyway, I just think it frees us up to really concentrate on on us and our relationships. And you know, and that and that, I think that counts our relationship with ourself. We are usually the hardest on ourselves. Now, I'll cut Terry, a lot of slack. You know, don't worry about this, don't worry about that. But for me, I'm like, Oh, my gosh, you know, and it's internalized. But it's like Lana, got a lot done yesterday. But there's like five more things that I should have done. And in not celebrating, taking the time and physically celebrating what we did accomplish.   Cathy  22:14 We're not we're not taught to celebrate our small wins, we're really not where we are taught write the list. And then you've got this list, but then you've got the list that you're always looking at, like you might have done those two things. But now there's two still 12 more things to do. Like, oh, I'm still a failure. You know, just like on social media, you might post something and then, like, 50 people are like, whoo, that hey, right on, that's so great or good. Congratulations. And then one person's like, you suck. And you're like, Oh, I suck. You know, like, somehow we that one person is able to burst our balloon. I don't know why   Terry  22:51 kill the joy.   Roy Barker  22:52 Yeah, well, and the other thing too, is that sometimes even when we achieve success, and we're on top, we can enjoy it. Because it's like, you're looking around, like, Who's gonna knock me off of this? Or how do I stay here? I can't slip back. And so it's just a, it's a perpetuating cycle of stress, to be honest. Yeah.   Cathy  23:13 This is put on by ourselves, though. This is all self imposed. Right? Once we understand that it's self imposed. This this cuckoo time has allowed me Of course, like everybody a lot of time to contemplate. Contemplate tomorrow. You know, but it really is about not comparing to anybody else. It doesn't even matter what everybody has, we don't even know their story. Like it's like, oh, look at how successful they are. Who gives a crap? Are they happy?   Terry  23:45 Yeah. Yeah.   Roy Barker  23:46 Well, but do we really know because that's, you know, the, the joy of social media is we get to share a lot of stuff. But the other part of social medias, we don't know what's behind the scenes, like this new yacht, and I'm standing in front of in my Instagram picture. It's not even mine. I mean, I'm just I'm walking down the harbor and got in front of me, like, hey, look at my new yacht. I just bought her, you know, go to the car dealership and stand by the new car. You know, we don't know. And like you said the other bigger part is even if people have that stuff, they really happy. Yeah, who cares? Right. And we have to stay in our own lane, run our own race. If you know, we can try to get better every day and achieve those things. But it shouldn't be. You know, it's kind of like we focus on us and what are we going to do to be happy? What can we do for ourselves? Not selfishly, but healthily, I guess health wise, you know. But you know, like breathing, water, eating right, sleeping, right. You know, try to do all of those things and really focus on that and it to me, it brings us so much happiness. You know, like yesterday, we had a we had a taping in the afternoon. canceled and so, you know, I was like, go out in the backyard and trim some trees. I got this I got you know, this to my alarm. But I just had a thought that you know what, why don't we just get the dogs and go for a walk and we went and walked over to this really beautiful place and just made an act, you know, a couple hours of it and it was the very best thing taking time for us.   Terry  25:22 It was nice. Yeah, free time. All right. Love it. Yeah, you never get that. Yeah. Ever   Roy Barker  25:29 quote. I'm more a little more curious about the some of your results, not only from, you know, regular, what I'd say middle aged people or not, you know, younger people versus the what have some are your results been taken this into assisted living?   Cathy  25:50 Thank you. Thank you for bringing it back to assisted living. Yes, I it's before my worm business, I was a social worker working with folks in assisted living. And I loved it. I had challenged with management, but you know, everyone's the expert. When you're on the front line, you got to just do stuff. But anyway, okay. But I love that leave when I left, that I was like, felt like a piece of my heart was being left there. So now I'm coming back home. And I am very intuitively guided. I was walking in the forest and got a message that I was because before COVID I was working with assisted living. And let me tell you this fabulous story. And then I'll get back to the forced walk. I hope so. If I remember down here. So there was a few nonverbal folks. And on laughter day, you know, some of the folks were by the window like, like little puppy dogs waiting. You know, they're so excited. Here she comes. Oh, it's so exciting. But they're talking. And then we get into laughing one of the activities is we blow up like a balloon like so you have your hands like this, and you breathe and breathe in breathe. And then you have this big full balloon. And what one of the nonverbal boys young men said when we got here, he was like, bang, bang, he doesn't talk.   Terry  27:17 My gosh,   Cathy  27:18 wow, we were just like, right, his brain was fully oxygenated. He could verbalize it was just like, wow. So anyway, that was very positive experience. Then Then COVID hit and I was like, is this gonna be able to? Can I do laughter online? I don't know. Who knows, right. And it's been so successful. I'm doing work with Alzheimers. I grew up that our early, like early onset 40s 50s 60s. And now we do it online. And we can reach people that couldn't come before they didn't have access or across Canada, people can come or even into the states, if you want to go you know, it's so beautiful. So it does make access for more people. And then so back to the forest. So I'm walking in the forest. And I was given this whole vision. And I still don't know, it's still forming. Like, I don't know how to do it, but it was given to me. Here it is your what's Here's what's coming. Okay. So I was doing laughter yoga was trade doing a training, because I'm a teacher, teaching folks with special needs. And I saw if I don't want to offend anybody with the proper term, and specifically folks with down syndrome, and I was I was actually training a friend's daughter and I haven't met her daughter. I know of her, but I didn't I don't know the daughter. So I was like, That's funny. Weird. I mean, I don't I didn't know what to make of it. But I was training that group of folks with the intent for them to train or to lead laughter sessions for their demographic. Okay. And I was like, because in Canada, I think it's at either 18 or 21. They are kicked out of school, like thanks for stopping by, then they get put on. It's like a disability pension. And it's very small amount of money. It's you can't live on that amount of money, by the way. And if they work, the money is taken off their pension. So there's no incentive to work, but they don't want to work for the money. It's to be part of society. Anyway, so that's my big goal. Anyway, so I phoned up this woman and I said, I had this weird dream, or vision or whatever you might call it in the forest. I don't know what you're gonna think of this, but I feel like I need to share it. So she connected me her daughter attends a group called San it's full access network. And it's a daily club for folks that are out of the school system, so young adults, and she hooked me up with this man who is so dedicated to these people. He just loves them so much and wants them to survive and thrive in life. So when I told him my mission, he was like, wow, okay, let's do something. I don't know if it's gonna work. So I said, let's do something for free. Let's see. Let's see if they're gonna like it. And they loved it so much. We're now in our third month, every Friday, we get together, you know, now we're just introducing it like we're just teaching them laughter yoga right now, like, not talking about training anybody right now, let's just see if anybody like it is getting benefits. The parents are loving it, that their you know, their kids are easier to get along with. They're not having flare ups. I'm giving them tips on when you do get stressed when you're just like, ah, why don't they get me that I'm teaching them to just laugh and that and doing techniques like when we get stressed the blood, lymph, oxygen leaves our brain. So these are the conductors, right? We are electricity, putting your hand on your neuron, sometimes when we're stressed, right? Where we're like, ah, how am I going to do all this stuff? overwhelmed, right? Oh, there's so many things are neurovascular is are here. So when we put our hands sometimes when people are thinking they do this, that those are the neural, right. So you just automatically so I teach them you do this, you can close the loop, putting on your on your back of your head, and then you take deep breaths. And that calms you right down. I tell people to do that before they respond on social media to interesting like, you're like, Ah, it's like, Okay, calm down, because now you're in fight, flight or freeze. Like you've gone into reptile mode. Get out of there, because that's not helpful. As soon as you press send, now you've opened up the floodgates for negativity. Right? If you're responding to something, right,   Roy Barker  31:41 I just say if you think about it, really laughter is a universal language. It's something everybody knows. And even like you said, if you're non verbal, they can still probably laugh. And in that the other thing I was thinking about the for, you know, like the dementia is, is probably good for the caregivers, to know as well. Because when they you know it's in Terry can speak to it more than I can. But I know that it's a very tedious, it can be very stressful at times. And so instead of letting that stress, overwhelm you, is just laugh with.   Terry  32:18 Yeah, just let it out. Because it does get, you know, you just don't think about taking care of you, especially if you're a caregiver, and all of us are in some form or another. But if you're caregiving for a dementia patient, patient on Alzheimer's patient for special needs child things, you know, you just don't take care of yourself. And it's so important that you do because who's going to take care of that person? If you're not around to do it, and you won't be you don't take care of yourself?   Cathy  32:46 Absolutely. Before COVID I was actually going into long term care now, with you know, the, I don't not sure what's happening in the States, but in Canada, they're still not really allowing outdoor activities really, or like outdoor people coming in. But I was going in and they would say, you know, how many people would you like, and they kind of wheel everybody in or people would come in. So it was seated on like my classes that are and so one woman was wheeled in. And she was sleeping like she was kind of like hunched over and she was kind of sleeping, it seemed like she was sleeping her worker stayed with her the whole time. And at one point, so we're, you know, playing along doing our thing. And at one point, the worker said, look at it, she's smiling. So she wasn't playing, she didn't you know, wake up at all. She didn't open her eyes, but at one point she was smiling. So it's like, maybe she was somehow receiving that beautiful laughter energy. It's high vibration, right? When you're stressed when we're afraid when we're in a pandemic. We're just like, worried about we're afraid. And if we watch the news, we get more afraid. Like so you know, just limit your intake of news is one way but so you know, that's not helpful when we're when we're afraid I'm and by the way we cannot heal when we're in stress mode. Because we're in stress mode, we need to get like so when we're in sympathetic mode. We're not we're just again in fight flight or freeze, we need to get into parasympathetic, like, so we need to get into relaxation mode. And that's the only time that we're healing. So even if we're, if we're stressed, and we're still drinking the water eating the good stuff, we're moving exercising, we are still not doing our body any benefit, not not what we're doing benefit, but not, you know, our body's not going to receive the best benefit if we're in stress mode.   Roy Barker  34:38 Yeah, definitely. And it's funny, I need to keep harping on it. But I don't think if you never do this, you don't understand the power of when Terry starts laughing. I can't help but follow along. I mean, no matter what just happened is is so infectious that you just can't not join in. And then when you do it's like You know, I guess all this luck, the dose that you were saying everything that's released, it's like, all of a sudden what you were worried about, it's really not that important anymore. All of a sudden, you're talking about this crazy person laughing.   Terry  35:14 What's going on? That's around. Yeah. Oh my gosh. And Roy has an awesome I mean, he, he has a full body and laughter I'm telling you, he just goes, and I feel like I'm like, sometimes it's in my head. Sometimes it's in my diaphragm. Sometimes it's my belly. When I get a good belly laugh. That's, that's what's the most important right there. That's what really makes me feel high energy.   Cathy  35:42 You want to know why? Here's why. Here's why. The more I learned about laughter, I mean, now I've been laughing full on since 2013. And you know, now the more and more and so every day, I really make sure I get a good belly laugh. And we have, we have blood. So we our heart pumps our blood, we have another fluid called lymphatic fluid. And lymph fluid only moves when we move. And we don't move very much, right? We're very sedentary people now. And so I just recent, so we got to move to move our lamp, which is really great. I've recently learned that our lymphatic fluid also moves when we do deep diaphragmatic breathing. It's kind of our diaphragms, like a pump for our limp. Yeah, so that's why so when you you know, if we're feeling tired and and, you know, depressed if we're depressed, we're not taking up very much space, right? We're small, we're maybe holding ourselves like, we're just like, take, we're just small, we're just sad. And because our cells are depressed, we don't have enough oxygen in our body. So all we need to do I mean, not all there's you probably got to deal with whatever it is that caused you to depression but but if you and not to laugh at that, I don't mean to laugh. Everything's funny. But you know, you just really got to open up you got you got to open up and then just take up more space, like, you know, just be I'm making up for it. If it's anyone listening just to the audio version, I'm opening up my whole body and you got to jump around. Like if you have a rebounder jump on that or a trampoline, or you can even just pretend like you have one. And just like bounce up and down and then your body is having, right, we can live without food and water for a few days. So I get excited. You can live without food and water for a few days. You might be grumpy and uncomfortable. We can only live without oxygen for a few minutes. And laughter forces us right Haha, you can't just Haha, you're only expelling you have to go. Yeah. I'm gonna pause.   Roy Barker  38:06 But yeah, I never really thought about it. So you said that but you know, sometimes when you are in that stress, you know, you're kind of hunched over in just tighter Krillin frame. Yeah. But when you do laugh it it kind of makes you throw your shoulders back, your chest puffed out and just take up more space. Yeah,   Cathy  38:26 yeah, just take up more space. Because then you're you're right, then your cells are taken up more space. That's, that's what we want.   Terry  38:35 I love it.   Roy Barker  38:35 Yeah, no, I think this is awesome. And we need to, it's like, we all need to do it. The other thing it does is it kind of gives us a break from taking ourselves and our life so serious for just about five minutes,   Terry  38:51 wrapped up in your own stuff and, and everybody else's around you that you just don't realize that you're not breathing and, and opening up. You're just curling back into your ball, you know?   Roy Barker  39:04 Well, I used to have a sign on my desk that people would laugh about. I had like, I don't know, 10 things, you know, sweat for the day, learn something new laugh and then I had breathe. And people say, Oh, you got to remind yourself to breathe and be like, No, but I have to remind myself to breathe that deep breath in. Because, you know, I think a lot of us are very shallow breathers. And so getting that oxygen and getting it that deep breath, you know, into our full body. It's very important.   Cathy  39:36 It's so important. It's so important. You know, and just like any modality, you know, as a laughter yoga teacher, I bring all kinds of things. I'm a learner, I love I love new experiences and trying new things and, you know, whatever it is, I just like to try different things and so I during this time I've done all kinds of energy work. And I've incorporated that into Well, I mean, not just this time actually, since I've been doing. Do you have you heard of tapping or Emotional Freedom Technique?   Terry  40:10 Yes, I have, I've kind of read a little bit about it, but I haven't gone deep.   Cathy  40:16 I've been tapping since 1999. I'm so happy that it's mainstream. It's just like, the simple thing. So I get when you I don't know when you attend to my class if I did this, but there are four spots that we really ought to tap on every day. And it's here under your eyes, two fingers, just let gently This is your stomach meridian. This grounds you so then you take a couple of deep breaths here. And then release, you can release with a sigh ha, that's what I do in my class. So that's your stomach, and then your collarbone, you can either rub here or you can tap, this is your kidneys. This is k 27. You don't need to know this. But some people want to know stuff. So this is really good. And we're talking about lymph, our lymph only goes in one direction, and then it ends up here. And this is the gateway and then it dumps into our cardiovascular Can you imagine not to get into the whole cycle of the limp. That's really another whole topic. But if we, if we don't open up this gateway, then our lympho pool here. And this is not anything new. But most heart attacks happen Monday morning. About nine o'clock in the morning, that's the cycle when when the length is and the limp doesn't have a pump. So if it's blocked here, it's not able to go so then the cardiovascular cycle buggers up. Right, so so this is a really great one. And this gives you energy to so that's just do that every day. If nothing else do that. And the next one is will just stand is like on your thigh mm. So Lena how apes do this. They do that because that's your thymus. As we age, our thymus shrinks. And that's to make T cells. So anyone watching that has cancer, tap on your thymus, this isn't and then deep breathe while you're tapping. And then the last one is about a palm with down from your armpit, on your right on your ribs on both sides. That's your spleen. And so those four spots really, really great every day, attend my class. And you'll remember because   Terry  42:27 now, anybody enough times that just go, just go It is an amazing experience.   Cathy  42:33 Yeah. And again, I bring all those other moding healing modalities, the different things I help people like how to sleep, how to get out of stress, you know, just as one example of one way that I've incorporated laughter yoga into my life when I'm driving around, before when there was more traffic. And so I'm driving if somebody cuts me off, I've trained myself that when they cut me off, it's not like, Oh, so why did they bite you? They cut me off. You know, it's never personal, right? It's never personal, although we take it personal. Right? So I'm like, Oh, they cut me off. It cues me to do my laughter yoga. So I'm like, right. So the person thinks that I'm angry because I'm flailing around. And so they're looking I so I get I'm not kidding. I get extra space. Because they're like that, that chicks Cuckoo. And I arrive at my destination. I'm like, Ah, good. I feel great. I'm arrived. I'm like, yeah, ready for my meeting?   Terry  43:41 Brian, I'm gonna be waiting for you to give him   Cathy  43:47 It changes everything. It changes everything. And you know, it's not laughing at a negative situation. Now, there's a documentary that I would encourage people to watch. It's called laugh ology. And it's by by by Albert neuro nurnberg. Yeah, I think that's his name. Sorry, Albert. If I didn't say your last name, right. He was doing this documentary and he went to India to interview Dr. Medan. cutera, the founder of laughter yoga to 26th anniversary. I don't think I said all this yet. So he went to interview him about laughter yoga, and it was the day after the Mumbai bombings. Oh, so he was like, oh, like Ah, I guess I guess we can't and it was in Mumbai there was gonna be so it's like I guess we can't do it. So you'll see if you watch the documentary and it's online. I think you can watch it online for free. You'll see it they the the bombings are in the background how to do and Doc, Dr. Qatari was like no, we have to do it. We have to do it because we need we need this right now. We're really stressed and we need to bring a little bit of levity even though it's not laughing at the bombings. It's laughing because of the bombings so that they could heal from it.   Roy Barker  45:00 Powerful. Yeah, I know he is. And I don't think we, you know, there's a lot of science on that, like you said, holding that stress in from whether it's the bombings or a driver or bad service somewhere that we hold that in and it can make us it can really advance illnesses that we have, it doesn't let us heal, like you said, and then it can actually cause us to be sick. I mean, a lot of people just carry so much stress around that they just perpetually sick, more susceptible to, you know, colds and viruses and things like that. So, a lot of science behind this just, you got it, we got to laugh it off and get out of that stressful place that we're in, nothing helps more than, and, you know, I'm blessed to have Terry in my life that it because it's even better when you have somebody to laugh with. Because, you know, sometimes we're not always aware that we really needed or that we're going into that bad place where our partner can be like, hey, let's, let's have a little laughter here. We got to get break out of this for just a minute.   Terry  46:03 And laugh at. I mean, you know, me, I laugh at myself, I you know, I laugh at myself all the time. Mostly, it's, I would say, a little bit of it is self deprecating, but it you know, I can laugh at myself, but I can laugh at Roy to it. Especially laughing You know, he is just he's just funny. He's just, he's just funny and he doesn't even know it. And I know I don't mean that in a bad way.   Cathy  46:37 You know, earlier, Roy when you said that you didn't used to lock your door and then until Terry came along, I thought you had precious cargo then keep you safe. You know what happens when we you were talking about people carrying around stress? Here's what happens. Here's what happens. Let me tell you what happens when when we have when we experience some kind of traumatic experience, experience experience twice a month since that's. So what happens is we take a deep breath in like, like something was shocking. So it gets and then it gets into our body if we don't deal with it at that moment, or very shortly after, it just becomes part of our belly. And then the next one on top and on top and on top. So when a rabbit gets chased by a predator if it survives, it will go under a tree and shake because you know that's pretty traumatic. You well you made you escaped that one, rabbit. So they shake that trauma energy off. We don't we don't shake we just hold it in. We're like, Oh, no, I'm good. I'm okay. into Sigmar Wow,   Roy Barker  47:54 I guess that once it once that settles in our belly, it probably just compounds and I mean I'm, I'm just thinking about like myself because I'm the worst at that, you know, you just suck it in, deal with it, move on. And, you know, that can probably be a lot of calls for you know, weight flow weight gain as well.   Cathy  48:13 That's where I was headed. Right? Because then, then you're like, Oh, I want to be safe, like, you know, then so then you might eat things that might not be the best or you might not move as much because you're like, then you just start getting in into not into your body then you're just in your head and then your body is kind of just an appendage. Oh,   Roy Barker  48:39 interesting.   Cathy  48:40 I have rock hard ABS by the way and I don't do and that's just from laughter yoga. If you were here, I'd let you touch my abs   Terry  48:47 gosh no, I mean if you're gonna show those off Yeah, I have to make some take a photo shoot. Coming up that kind of shows the   Roy Barker  49:08 you know when you do laugh like that that full belly though it works your core i mean you can feel it all the way down three so I never really thought about that side benefit of it.   Cathy  49:17 And and cheeks right cheek. Anyone that's had a good belly laugh your cheeks your maybe that you're cleaning your eyes because you're rolling down. Your cheeks are hurting. Right like look at my skin. I'm 58 I look pretty good. God.   Terry  49:32 Oh my God. You do? I love that. I know. I want to make sure I know. We're kind of running up against time but I want to make sure that we talk about your sprouts too. Oh, yes, please. I have my sprouter right here. Yes ma'am. So strokkur it's Yeah, go ahead. No, no, I would please go.   Cathy  49:55 Oh, so there's so the sprouts are just so that's the what I say Kathy Crawley laughing being Queen That's the being Queen part. Oh, that's right that we're talking about. Yeah, that's perfect. And so it's so sprouting is really, sprouts are the original fast food. There's like the mung beans will germinate, especially in a warm climate and overnight, you've probably experienced that. So when the, the, the root is the size of the beam, that's when they're ready. That's when they're most nutritious. So everything's there to grow that little sprout into a full, full grown plant. So it just makes sense that it's more nutritious than the full grown plant. And the mung beans are the ones that that I have as my health plan just because they are super fast. They're juicy, they're tasty. And so let me tell you some really, I'm gonna sound so smart, but here's some really wonderful words about what sprouts are. hydrating alkalizing regenerative biogenic, and they contain up to 100 times more digestive enzymes than raw vegetables. Wow. Oh,   Terry  51:01 wow.   Cathy  51:03 So here's the thing about enzymes and I think that's the really important piece because we could take a multivitamin if we wanted, we could eat fiber, we could do those things, all those those are all in your mung beans. Those are all in your sprouts, but the the enzyme so when we're born, we're given a certain amount of enzymes, when we're eating, if we're not eating salad or you know, sprouts, then our body's using our reserves and as we start to age we get digestive issues. We go to the doctor the doctor says here's a prescription for enzyme pills. Instead of taking a pill, like eating the like growing your own you save money you know it's healthier and these are so full of fiber that like it's like you can eat as much as you want. Oh, you can't because you actually fill up with nutrients no   Terry  51:52 interesting Yeah, yeah, that's what I mean we've been trying well we've been eating as we've been eating plant based probably how long right   Roy Barker  52:02 probably about two months maybe   Terry  52:05 like probably since April.   Roy Barker  52:08 Yeah, time is really good.   Terry  52:09 I don't know you know, it's yeah times relative. But But since April as much as we can you know, at first we went full force and then it was like okay, well we can't be that stringent, you know, we got to add a little bit here and there so you know, more Mediterranean but a lot of plant based as much as we can and know that we notice a huge difference. So adding the sprouts I mean and and when I started purchasing you know groceries for that, for the plant based eating everything that cane wha all the lentils and all of the everything was like sprouted, sprouted, I'm like, Okay, do I want to sprout it? I don't know if I want sprout it, I didn't really know much about it. And I still kind of don't, but I'm just going with it. So the sprouts are that they add the enzymes and help with digestion. What? What else? What else help me.   Cathy  53:09 So sometimes people will eat beans, and now they're like, Oh, am I gonna get you know, bloated and flatulence and all of that like, gains but I don't like the after effect. It's like so what happens is seeds and beans have a coating on them called phytic acid pH Why? And it's that acid that's a protection for the cedar bean. So if it gets eaten by a bird or an animal, and passes right through and then it can still grow. So so if we eat those pains, if we cook those beans without soaking them and getting rid of that so quarter or sprouting them, that coating is still on there. So the beans are good, but that acid our body doesn't know what to do with it. So then it causes bloating or you know, flat Okay, never and challenges. So when you soak them, they're called oligosaccharides. Again, I sound so smart, don't. Those are the sugars. Those are the sugars that cause flatulence, the oligosaccharides so when you when you sprout your seeds, there's fewer of those. Ah, okay. Yeah. And it opens it up. It really makes it sort of like, the seeds, like a little rock. It's like, everything's, you know, jammed in there. It's Yeah. So then you you sprout it and it just starts to come alive. And it's like, okay, now it's something   Roy Barker  54:28 interesting. All right, Cathy. Well, we were running way long and not your fault. We were very interested. This is all really good information. And yeah, we appreciate you staying around a little bit longer and telling us telling us all about it. It's been great. So before we do get away a couple things, first off, what is a tool or a habit? Laughter let's put laughter aside because I know that that's something you do every day. But what is something that you do every day, that adds a lot Value either professionally or personally,   Cathy  55:03 I start my day, I actually bookend my day with a little exercise routine, like just kind of some gentle stretches, some of the tapping every morning, some really gentle breaths, it only takes a five minute routine. And I do that as well before I go to bed. And those are two things that I do every day and then drinking enough water, I   Roy Barker  55:30 can't even put up, I can't even tell you, I have to throw myself under the bus, say I'm the worst I can make myself do it for a few days. And then I just fall completely off the wagon on that. And it's so important. And for so many different things. It's not just for one thing, but for so many different things. So drink that water, start your day with exercise. Good advice. So tell us how well go through, I think at least three or four different things, but talk about, you know, the things that you are into how people can reach out and either purchase the product or get ahold of you if they want to partake, like in the laughter, yoga, things like that.   Cathy  56:12 Yeah, I would love for people to come and experience my Tuesday laughter club. It's 930. Eastern on zoom at this time, and it's free. That's that's probably the best offering that I have. At this time, because it's so easy. And I am looking for people that are in assisted living or people that are like funders, because I am looking to do a pilot project I would really, you know, about my mission that my upcoming mission that I'm going to do that i don't know how i did contact the founder of laughter yoga, and I said, Is anybody in the world doing this? Is anybody in the world teaching people with special needs to lead laughter classes? And he said, No. So I'll do it. In my spare time, I'll do that. I would like to end by just saying I believe with my, my three branches. I have world hunger solved. And I have world peace solved.   Roy Barker  57:13 Awesome. We need to get on that train. So how can they How can they reach out and get a hold of me?   Cathy  57:20 I'm Cathy's club is my website for laughter Cathy's Cathy's composters.com is my worm website. And I'm all over social media like Facebook, LinkedIn, Twitter.   Roy Barker  57:33 Yeah. And that's we'll put all this in the show notes. But that's Cathy with a C. Thank you. Yes. Yeah. All right. Well keep us informed. We, you know, we want to know how this is going. I the the laughter part is just everybody needs to partake in that. I don't think you really understand the power of it unless you do it a few times. And then you know, taking this to the different communities like the aging community and special needs. I think that's even even a great mission. I think that's awesome. Good   Terry  58:05 for you can't see. Oh my gosh, I love it. And I'm coming back. I need I need another dose. I always need one but I'm coming back.   Roy Barker  58:14 Oh, that's what I was gonna say is that you'd be surprised how this works. distance, you know, remotely through zoom or you could do a FaceTime. Anyway, I guess you could even just do the audio version. It's nicer to see people but Oh, yeah, yeah, don't let the distance scare you off. You can really get a lot of benefit out of it virtually as well. Alright, then that's going to do it for another episode of Feeding Fatty Of course. I'm   Terry  58:42 your host, Roy and Terry,   Roy Barker  58:44 you can find us at www.feedingfatty.com we're on all the major podcast platforms iTunes, Stitcher, Google Spotify, if we're not a one that you listened to reach out we'd be glad to add it. Also, we're on all the major social media platforms probably hang out mostly on Instagram. That's where you can find us if you want to reach out we also will have a video of this when this episode when it goes live you can find on YouTube as well. So Till next time, take care of yourself and take care of your health. www.cathysclub.com www.feedingfatty.com

Curveball
Tech visionary — Kate Vale on running Google, Spotify, and now a VC fund

Curveball

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 11, 2021 37:39


When Kate Vale was appointed Google Australia's first employee, she didn't have an office or a mobile phone. She found herself answering her home landline to do business!  From humble beginnings she used her HR background to quickly build a team, and grew Google Australia to record revenues and eventually to IPO.  Ever the digital pioneer since her days managing a dot com company before the crash, Kate Vale then headed up Spotify in Australia.  Eventually she moved to California, the epicentre of start-up and digital culture. She's now running a venture capital fund called Aliavia that's focussed on supporting female founders who are often overlooked for investment.  She takes you inside the famous Google hiring process and gives her take on what it takes to thrive while leading digital companies.  +++  Curveball is a production of Deadset Studios. Leaders reveal their darkest moments and share tips on how the deal with those things you just can't see coming.  Keep up to date with Curveball by following @_deadsetstudios on Twitter and @deadsetstudios on instagram.   Want more from your leadership journey? To get more wisdom and life lessons from top leaders delivered to you directly, sign up to Curveball's LinkedIn newsletter!   Find out more about the show or suggest a guest by visiting www.curveballshow.com    This was episode was produced and edited by Liam Riordan with sound design by Krissy Miltiadou.  The executive producers are Rachel Fountain and Kellie Riordan.  We acknowledge Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples as the First Australians and Traditional Custodians of the land on which this show was made.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Feeding Fatty
Food is Fuel and Can Be Fun, What is Your Relationship With Food?

Feeding Fatty

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 28, 2021 57:54


Food is Fuel and Can Be Fun, What is Your Relationship With Food? with Katie Chapmon And that's where that's weird, kind like of concrete. As you get older, and as you're potentially trying to work out of these habits it's hard. It's like, I know, these things are good for me. Let me just, yeah, there's a problem. You have these really strong connections of like, I don't know if I like this. I don't know if I have a good feeling around us. About Katie Katie Chapmon, MS, RD is an award-winning Registered Dietitian Nutritionist specializing in Bariatric Nutrition, GI Issues and Hormonal Health with 10+ years of hands-on clinical experience for leading medical providers.  She is the proud recipient of the 2010 Recognized Young Dietitian of the Year Award and 2018 Excellence in Weight Management Practice Award through the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics.  Katie empowers individuals and businesses alike toward the next steps in their growth.  She has a virtual private practice and provides continuing education for integrated health providers.  Prior to transitioning into private practice and consulting, she served as the Bariatric Nutrition Lead and Bariatric Medicine Department Manager for Kaiser Permanente Southern California. Katie is currently updating the Bariatric Surgery and Pregnancy chapter in the 3rd Edition of the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics Pocket Guide to Bariatric Surgery and has presented educational webinars for various organizations.  She has written numerous articles surrounding bariatric surgery and nutrition for both professional and consumer publications.  Katie also served as education co-director, as well as presented at several American Society of Metabolic and Bariatric Surgery Obesity Week sessions. Katie is currently the Chair of the American Society of Metabolic and Bariatric Surgery Integrated Health Clinical Issues Committee. She has also served as a mentor with the WM DPG mentoring program to guide dietitians who are new to this exciting field.   www.katiechapmon.com www.feedingfatty.com Full Transcript Below Food is Fuel and Can Be Fun, What is Your Relationship With Food? with Katie Chapmon, MS, RD Sat, 7/3 1:22PM • 57:37 SUMMARY KEYWORDS eat, people, supplements, talking, bouncer, smoothie, food, fasting, dietitian, probiotics, big, health, feel, Terry, meal, Katie, diet, support, nutrition, bacteria SPEAKERS Katie, Terry, Roy Barker   Roy Barker  00:08 Hello, and welcome to another episode of Feeding Fatty. This is Roy   Terry  00:11 This is Terry.   Roy Barker  00:12 So we're the podcast that brings you a just chronicling our journey through health. And, you know here lately we've we've kind of talked a lot more about mindset. You know, we started in the beginning talking a lot about diet, not necessarily being on a diet, just our food intake. And we've talked a lot about exercise and a lot of these things.   And then, you know, we also talked quite a bit about the mindset spec mindset portion of all this, trying to tie it all together to you know, lead us to a better point of wellness and also from time to time we do have professionals in the fields that come on and today is no different. So, Terry, I'm on let you introduce Katie.   Terry  00:51 Yeah, Katie Chapmon is an award winning Registered Dietitian nutritionist specializing in geriatric nutrition, gi issues and hormonal health. And with 10 plus years of hands on clinical experience for leading medical providers. She's the proud recipient of the 2010 recognized young dietitian of the Year award. And 2018 excellence in weight management practice award through the Academy of Nutrition and diet, diet. Diet TEDx that right. We got it. Yeah, fine. Yeah. Katie, welcome. So, welcome to the show. We're happy to have you. Thank you.   Roy Barker  01:36 Yeah, what's gonna open you know, we always have pre show talks, I was gonna comically kind of open with like, yeah, we're gonna welcome the food police on. You know, I say that tongue in cheek. You know, I know, that's kind of unfortunate. A roll that you're pushed into. And a lot of times people skew you into that. Oh, that's, you know what, I think we were, you know, kind of bantering around, but I was thinking it's more like the dietary Sherpa that you know, y'all are there to help and lead to guide to encourage to keep us from falling off the side of the mountain.   You know, it's always your own journey. If you decide to make that fatal step off to the ride and have that big old piece of chocolate fudge cheesecake or, you know, whatever the it's not like, you just try to be the be there to give the good advice. But before we get way far deep into this, tell us a little bit about you know, kind of what led you here What got you interested in this? What led you to be a dietitian?   Katie  02:39 Oh my gosh, it's such a great question. Um, honestly, I I did a lot of running I used a marathon run. Oh, wow. It was a Yeah, I think I did in my 20s long probably other things I did in my 20s I just noticed the aspect of how I ate and how that affected not only this major kind of piece of like, Oh yes, we got a fuel or exercise or fuel what I'm doing in that sense.   But when it really really came down to it, I felt just different. Right? I felt like okay, like I feel better when I eat this way don't feel so good when I eat this way like My stomach hurts when I eat away. And so I just was fascinated with how how food affected how I felt mentally physically and decided to just dive in really deep and become a dietitian with it.   Roy Barker  03:50 Oh, that's that's a good story because I think we don't give that enough thought you know we think about the weight aspect but we don't and I guess it's as I've grown older, I'm really more in tune to how I do feel and I tell you sometimes food can for me I think I have some food allergies to be honest but fruit for me can almost be like alcohol in given me a hangover in the morning and I think it's seems to be card related or you know.   I'll say when we have gone to the the local Mexican food restaurant and maybe have a you know a margarita they put that really sweet syrup in it and then have some chips. It's like the next morning you know it takes me to maybe noon just to get out from under that fog. I just feel like my head is just very clogged and stopped up. So anyway, I think there's so much to   Katie  04:46 ham quietly, completely. And I know I sometimes I'll feel that feel that way too. Like if something's more like fried. I definitely feel that way. I'm originally from Kenya. Turkey and so I always kind of think like, fried, fried, covered and smothered. Those are the terms I'm usually not gonna feel so well after.   Roy Barker  05:13 It's just hard for us to be our best. So, you know, not only way aspect and how we feel physically, but also if you have that little, you know, the way it makes you feel mentally process because I'll tell you when I feel like that, you know, I don't probably don't make as clear to sit, you know, don't think about things clearly. But there's also the aspect of, you know, probably being short, and not really being as empathetic as you can be when you don't feel like you're at the top of your game. Yeah,   Katie  05:44 yeah, my sleep gets off too. And I know if my sleep is off, then I don't think as clearly or approach things as clearly are nicely. All the above. So we're speaking the same language,   Terry  05:59 just a big brain fog. And it's hard for people I mean, you know, everybody knows, you think that everybody knows what's good for them health wise, as far as eating and everything that people don't know what to put together. They don't know what they're doing it and then it's like, oh, wait, I've been doing this. You know, I ate this way. healthily for a couple of meals, and then I need a treat. I need a treat. That's not like, Oh, wait, like you're calling? No, I'm thinking it for me.   Roy Barker  06:37 She came home from the grocery store that day. And like, I'm going through these bags and lettuce, celery. I'm like, Okay, did the snack fall off in here somewhere?   Terry  06:45 Yeah. And he didn't help me unpack any of that after he found out there was nothing in there good for him. I mean,   Roy Barker  06:51 it's hard. And I don't know why. Maybe you can give us some insight into our feelings around food. But I grew up mainly, you know, mom tried to give me vegetables. I'm not gonna say she didn't. But you know, mainly meat, potatoes, corn, you know, all the things that probably the vegetables that aren't the best force, and then, but no greens, I'm just maybe peas, but I'm not a fan.   And it's just hard to eat. I'm just telling you, right, straight up. It's just hard. And God bless Terry, she tries to disguise them and season it up. And you know, we come and do this. But you know, at the end of the day, it's still a piece of broccoli.   Katie  07:36 Yeah, yeah. You know, it's, I hear that all the time, too. So listen, you're not you're not alone. And I think, you know, when you look at just kind of how we grew up, and, and just really looking at someone's history with food, our brain creates these really strong connections with just food in particular.   And I, I always think like, everyone has a relationship with food, it just looks different for each person. Right? Right. So for you without that, like, very young exposure of different vegetables, or, or I know that I, some people have said like, oh, okay, like how they were made as a kid was like, out of the can or they were mushy, or gross or whatever. You have that very strong connection. And that's where that's weird that like, kind of concrete.   And so as you get older, and as you're potentially trying to work out of it, it's hard. It's like, Oh, yeah, I'm older. I know. I know, these things are good for me. Let me just, yeah, their problem. You have these really strong connections of like, I don't know, I don't know if I like this. I don't know if I have a good feeling around us.   Roy Barker  09:05 Yeah, and then the other thing, I think we, what you're saying about that relationship with food is it's always been well, it's not just emotional, but it's, it's everything. Everything is based around food, emotion, social, you know, because we always jokingly say that, you know, we used to come home from having a bad day.   It's like, Oh, those couple let's get something to eat or, you know, big success. When this happened, like, awesome, let's go celebrate, you know, and then, you know, we've even talked about like, my big addiction is probably ice cream. And yeah, we talked about it a little bit before, but it's mainly like, you know, some of the, I guess it's those that was a celebration because I would, I had two of my grandparents that are was very close with my grandpa's, and then my dad and so.   You know, like, we go work in the yard or go, you know, I'd go help them with the task when I was a little kid. You know, I think now thinking back, I think I was kind of an excuse for them to go get an ice cream. But you know, whenever we do something be like, hey, let's run up to the drugstore. And let's go get us a banana split, you know. And so it was it was that good. It was a treat number one, but it was also the social time that you spent with your loved ones.   And it's still even at this age. It's still a fond memory. I told Terry, not long ago, I can still remember the Dairy Queen where me and dad used to go in the afternoon, the jukebox, the song that was on the jukebox, just the whole atmosphere. You know, when when I was probably eight, 910 years old, but it just sticks with you.   Katie  10:48 Yeah, now I mean, exactly. Exactly. Those like elated feelings and those feel good feelings. Yeah. You know, and then and then trying to try to navigate that now going like, Okay, wait, that's pretty strong. Like, that's the thing. I that's the thing I go to? Um, yeah, it's, it's one of their say, and it takes time to kind of unravel that, like, I just, I feel like it's, it's kind of like, just imagine, like a sweater. And you're unraveling kind of these things that have been really deeply kind of stitched and embedded.   Yeah. And I know as much as people potentially want to just have this like, light switch moment of like, yep, no, I'm not going to have it. No problem. I'm like, doesn't quite work like a light switch. And we have to take time to actually unravel and kind of re re establish new feelings with that particular food such as ice cream, or establish new feelings with with also something else.   Terry  12:01 So we have to make a new sweater or a pair of mittens or something. Yeah, exactly.   Roy Barker  12:08 Don't come at me and say, Oh, that's so awesome that you did Let's celebrate with some cauliflower.   Katie  12:14 Yeah. Now now, but also like, Hmm, let's see, what else do we want to celebrate with that? Maybe? Like that maybe isn't isn't even food? Right? Yeah, you know, I don't know,   Terry  12:28 that's something we Yeah,   Roy Barker  12:29 we've talked about that frequently is that, you know, when we feel that, it's like, Hey, this is a great time to go for a walk, you know, to try to change that from, because that's the other miracle about me. And exercise is and I know that with weight, it's, you know, calories in calories out basically. And it's hard, you know, if you go eat a banana split, it's hard to, you know, go on a treadmill and walk that off.   You know, in a reasonable time, I get all that. But the thing about it is if I am out exercising, that means that I am not somewhere somewhere eating. And so it's, you know, it's kind of a good trade off for me, because it keeps me from eating. But you know, it's also good for the heart and lungs, you know, for our other body functions, too.   Katie  13:14 Absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah. I mean, and just just even approaching it, we get in our heads of like that, that can and then No, and I don't know about you, as someone says no, or you can't do this. I'm like, Oh, I'm doing it.   Terry  13:30 Like we were talking earlier about we mentioned the hormonal aspect of it. You know, as a woman, I just get defensive if a dude tries to blame it on hormones. Yeah. Guys have it too. That's right. That's right.   Katie  13:50 We all have hormones. And so we're a little too loud. I mean, and I'm sorry, when I say hormonal health, I think everyone thinks female. But I do see that. Just looking at all of this full circle, and even just talking about weight. I tried to dive in just one level, prior 10 levels deeper, because whenever I look at weight I sometimes like yes, it is that like the actions to support it. But also at the same time, what is our body systems doing?   So do we need to look at kind of how we're digesting and processing because if that's off, that is going to affect how your body communicates and communicates about weight or weight loss or weight gain or whatever we're trying to do. And same with hormones too. And that's across the board. So I do have some I do have not just females that might need to take a look at hormonal health with me.   Terry  15:01 Well, how do you how do you identify that? How do you identify those things? Yeah, so   Katie  15:08 so I'll say the digestion part is probably easier to really understand. Because typically I see that someone will say, like, Oh, I'm bloated all the time, or I have gas or even like acid reflux or stomach pains. And then you, then you start kind of questioning like, Is this all the time? Is this after you eat? How long after you eat? So it determines what part what part is happening in that digestive tract. And then I do some functional microbiome testing, too.   So just kind of some interesting it's at home, or some people like it's at home, but it helps to look at someone's and just what's, what's the lay of the land inside there. So, too, we have some not so awesome bacteria that's supposed to be there, but is growing more rapidly are more than the awesome stuff. So then we have this really big unbalance and then affects how our nutrients are broken down and absorbed. So if we're not feeling our bodies, how did our bodies know that it's safe to lose weight? Right big picture here. Yeah.   Terry  16:33 Yeah. A lot of sense.   Roy Barker  16:35 Yeah. Cuz our bodies are, I think they're smarter than we give them credit for. And they try to just no matter what we're putting in there, they're like, it's a, it's survival. You know, our body thinks about our survival, even sometimes, maybe when we're not. But the thing that brings up a good point, though, something that we've talked very little about, but I think more and more has come to light with gut health. Yeah, making sure because I'll let you explain it more. But really, I don't think people understand a lot of our stuff starts there.   Katie  17:10 A ton of our stuffs. Absolutely. So. So as we're learning more about God health, which I feel is just, it's a fascinating subject that has gotten more mainstream, and probably the past five to 10 years. And so, our guide, is there, the gatekeeper. I always think they're like the bouncer to The Club. I have a million ways of explaining. But I but it helps to, I think, for many of the scientific or more complex topics, if we can make it understandable if it makes sense.   Yeah. So if we think like, the gut is the bouncer char club, and we want our gut mining, to be really discerning, we want the velvet rope. And we want to be like you're allowed it. We, we know you're not the type of thing we need to allow. And so as how you know, how we he kind of supports how that discerning that bouncer is going to be. So it supports our nice normal, kind of commensal is the proper term flora.   So that's like the often bacteria and but depending on how we eat, we could also support the not so awesome bacteria, which is supposed to be there, but they're kind of the troublemakers. So, um, so as maybe the troublemakers are kind of outgrowing more, then all of a sudden, they are kind of pushing in and given that bouncer a harder time. And so that bouncer at some point is gonna cave. Like I have been trying, I've been trying the hardest, but kind of gonna cave or be like, oh, okay, you can kind of come in.   And so that makes that kind of, let's say scientifically, we called the gut lining permeability. So that allows that permeability to just be looser or weaker. So we just don't have to have that discerning so again, that just like, I can say that it's kind of full circle with that gut health is sometimes people will get symptoms, so they'll just not feel good sometimes when they eat or not feel good. When they eat healthy.   That's the thing that a lot of times people get confused by. They'll be like, Oh gosh, you know, when I when I'm eating healthy, when I'm eating those vegetables, I don't feel as good as when I Don't eat those vegetables. And that doesn't make sense. And that's in part where I'll dive in and be like, Oh, we need to actually support your gut first, in order to then also support them. Health. lot, too. I mean, I could, yeah, there's a lot to this.   Roy Barker  20:21 Well, I guess the you know, kind of bite going off that scenario is that when we eat unhealthy enough, you know, we kind of do that overwhelmed the bouncer where, really there's just no choice. It's just kind of overrun, right? Yeah. Right. And so can we get to a point when we eat healthy for years and years and years and years that does our body kind of flip?   Like you were saying some people eat healthy, does our body kind of flip and now he thinks that it's used the unhealthy and that's what it accepts where the healthy, he kind of have to go back and I guess, retrain it in some manner to kind of accept it and feel better.   Katie  21:01 Yeah, yeah, that's a great question. A couple of things I usually need to do, I usually need to strengthen that kind of gut lining, so build muscles on that bouncer. And then and then to be that's kind of First and foremost, and then be able to start switching over how someone's eating. Okay, um, so there's, there's kind of a couple steps that go along with this.   Um, and then also, if something's over kind of overgrown, I also need need to help balance that out. And I can usually do that with combination of some herbal supplements and probiotics. And I get picky about which ones I'm going to use, depending on what someone has going on. So okay.   Roy Barker  21:53 Yeah, yeah. And we heard not long ago, too, you know, because we both heard of the probiotics, but we, chair you can help me here. Maybe it was like a pre pre biotics pre done a, like, warm it up to get it to, I guess, to receive the probiotics in the manner that you really wanted to.   Katie  22:14 Yeah, yeah, Terry, I don't want to cut you off. I might, I can definitely break that one down, though. Do Yes. Okay. So, um, yeah, we have both. We have prebiotics with probiotics. So prebiotics are basically the food for your awesome bacteria. So they are helping to that awesome stuff that's in there, it is just helping to build that up. Probiotics, which there's a ton out there, they're not all the same, because they have different strains of bacteria. But probiotics are adding bacteria strains, okay? To that to that, like dynamic.   So it's adding new people to the party. So for some people, they need to have that pre biotic because they have some awesome stuff going on in there. And we just need to actually, you know, Give it, give it some strength, get some food and help that grow. And then for some people with probiotics, they'll need those because they need more of a variety of bacteria in their digestive tracts.   Terry  23:36 Okay, it's so is it? I'm sorry, is it is it it has to kind of be customizable is basically what you're saying, as far as each individual.   Katie  23:48 If someone I'm like, there's some really great, I'm just kind of, I'd say like probiotics and prebiotics that are just like really nice general ones that kind of include a variety. If someone doesn't have any, like gut things going on. Or they can you know, maybe try this and be like, Well, let me try just doing a nice general one.   Absolutely, that can work for people. But if someone is having, like, an actual gi issue, digestive issue where they're just like, Ah, it's it feels like a hot mess. Then it it you know, and they're suffering from like bloating, gas, stomach pain, then Honestly, I'm like, Oh, we need to take a really more particular and deeper dive into that. So I would say there's there's parts that are definitely customizable, especially if there's an issue going on.   If someone's just like, you know, there's not really an issue but I just want to make sure that like things are even keeled. There There's definitely General, just balanced ones that you can do to help help just support.   Roy Barker  25:07 So, but that also brings up something that I've become more and more fascinated with is fasting. Because, you know, we we have had some guest on and read some evidence that, you know, fasting is good in a way that it gives our body a break from the constant digesting in which, you know, back in the day we had this guy that was a local fitness guru, and you know, he was the six meals a day. I mean, with this guy, it was constant eating, but you know, you're in the gym, it was a balance that was, you know, chicken and some rice and, you know, broccoli, that was the main staples of it.   But, you know, thing is was eaten a little bit smaller, but eaten all the time. So then now we're talking about fasting and it in theory, you know, I get that it sounds good. But then when is it like last week, a couple weeks ago, then we read some more evidence that said, Well, maybe, you know, maybe not so much, especially like diabetics, because it can slow down your metabolism, they can do this. And you know, I'm not, I haven't been shy about saying, you know, I'm a type two diabetic. And here lately, I've been struggling more and more with my blood sugar than what I have in the past.   And it's my it's due to my eating, and it's due to eating and it's due to being sedentary, I think, come in through this last year. Maybe not the whole, you know, maybe the last six to eight months, I've been much more sedentary than ever in my life. So anyway, I know, we could probably do five episodes just on that topic. And I hate I hate to do that the guest is you know, just say like, yeah, give us this high level, because it's not always that simple. But I'm gonna let you try to address that in the best way that you can.   Terry  26:54 that you want.   Katie  26:58 Okay, I got my work cut out for me. Yes. Okay, let me try to simplify two sides of this, this coin. So right, when when just looking at evidence. So, and let's say like, they're, they're typically, with most things. There's evidence, that's how that's how we we've learned and we advance and we're like, let's try this on this and put it in this scenario, see how things are. So we learn more things, right.   So I'm where I come into play on, on fasting is, and let's just say also, I'm going to use the general term diet, I look at diet as how someone eats, but we definitely always have a trend of whatever the new diet is for the year. And I always try to figure that out, and take bets on it before it comes out. Because there's always something that's going to come out. And I look at how someone eats is like a fit for what they have going on. for that. So when I look at, like, let's say digestion, or digestive health, and this is just a really big, broad example, because I'm trying to simplify this.   But, um, maybe for someone I am going to have not necessarily a fast, but I'm going to have a much more direct kind of eating window. Because I do need that, like digestion rest. And so that eating window, it might be 12 hours, like which is like okay, yeah, that's kind of when they're up, right. So, um, it, it's not usually always, like, several day fast or anything like that, um, you know, but on the flip side to, I'm gonna look at this on the other way of like, diabetes, or let's say, sometimes with people who I have to support thyroid health, with, those are particular eating times that we need to support because of their body and their body's communication.   So let's say fasting would necessarily be a great fit in those scenarios, because we need particular feeling at particular times to support those body processes. So that's where you're, you know, you're going to get evidence of like, it's not great for this thing. Now, it could be considered for this thing. And that's why it sometimes gets confusing or where I'll see people who are like, hey, I've tried all these different diets and they didn't work for me and I'm like, well, let's see what's going on so we can match the fit of what's going on for your body.   Also mentioned the emotional aspects to just because for some people fasting had will just ignite that kind of really strong emotional connection for them in terms of kind of black or white yes or no. And it will make people kind of idolize or want food more. And that's not a safe space either. So there's a lot to kind of thinking around this fit.   Terry  30:25 Yeah, like that you say, eating window. I mean, that sounds much better than   Roy Barker  30:31 well, and you're like, well, I guess that's kind of our approaches, we've, you know, we've made some tweaks here and there. And some things we try that we don't feel works. And we never take a hard line, just like, you know, we feel like we have been more plant based here of late. But that doesn't mean you know, because we were, we were at a dinner not long ago, and you know, it was a breakfast, then I order some bacon is my life. Oh, my gosh, I thought you were, you know, vegan now, like, no, we're plant based, that just means that we try to fill most of our diet with plants.   And then if we feel like the meat, we can have some it's not, you know, because again, I think it's that mental. If you say never add more meat, then it's like, meat. It's magic, is it not like, but the you know, but for me, and this is maybe more psychological, but like breakfast is always been my meal. Because in a former life, I typically had more of a physical day, you know, out working hard and stuff like that. Now, as I've gotten older, you know, it's more at a desk and more sedentary, but still, I've been conditioned that breakfast is my meal, that's the one I really enjoy.   The other thing too, is we enjoy the weekends, because we used to cook Saturdays and Sundays, we would always cook a big breakfast. And then so when fasting, you know, we were doing like 16 hours, we would eat six or seven at night and go all the way till noon. So we would have a noon meal, and a six o'clock meal. And it weren't most of the time, but there was always still that little nagging.   Like, it'd be nice to you know, just have a meal, we tried to even supplement that a little bit with just more of a smoothie instead of having a full blown meal. So I don't know. I guess while we bring that up is, you know, what is? What is your thoughts on getting some, you know, nutrition through the smoothies, good, bad, indifferent, or just again, depending on the person and what they're needing, we can say?   Katie  32:36 Well, so let's say if you're looking at a smoothie, right? I'm gonna be like, what's in that smoothie? Because it could just be I mean, my goodness, it could just be like, fruit, and honey. And let's just let's just see what we're going to add into it, right? Or it could be like, Oh, I have, oh, no, I have cup of food and protein powder, and two cups of spinach. Right? So I think that smoothies, when they are made in a lovely balance that gives you all properties.   I'm gonna say that they can absolutely work. And so you know, and, like, I'll be the first one to say that, you will see me I sometimes will have back to back people, and on zoom with them. And I'm thinking, Oh my gosh, it's it's during my like, it's lunchtime. And so how am I going to do this? And so sometimes that's just how I'll get in my feeling. Yeah, because of situational. So I think they can be utilized. As long as as long as there's that, like, there's health properties are in there.   Roy Barker  33:59 Yeah. And I should clarify, because, you know, between me and Terry, when we say smoothie, we know exactly what we're talking about. But I think that's again, I'll let her jump in. But we try to do the protein powder of cheese is usually kale or spinach, maybe a little fruit to sweeten it up. And we're   Terry  34:17 an avocado and or an avocado and some some. Lately, we've been adding omega 369 oil, every brain health also does that do something in addition to brain health, I mean, is that help with digestion or gut health?   Katie  34:37 Yes, I'm like, Oh my gosh, your Megas happen. Yay. Go Terry. Good. Yeah, your amigos, actually, oh my goodness. They they help in so many different ways. So they do help definitely support that. Kind of like gut lining, they do support brain health and kind of keep keeps our brains really nice and spongy and all that lovely stuff. And then also at the same time to our heart health too, as well. So there's I mean, there's multiple, multiple reasons. Yeah.   Roy Barker  35:23 And we had a guest on I want a friend of the show Delia McCabe. She's actually from Australia, and is in the the research, but she was telling us that, you know, we we've taken fish oil capsules for so long, but she said that there's research that shows that they have to cook that to such high temperatures that when we take it in this oil form, it's much I guess, the balance is much better and much, much better for so we've been really working that in and then also I think you put either we use walnuts, flaxseed, or you know, some a little bit of inequality in there as well.   But, you know, we like you said, we don't live off of them. And I don't ever want to, you know, again, we always say we're not doctors, see a doctor dietician, you know, a registered dietician, you know, find somebody that's a professional that can help. But we don't substitute and say, Hey, we're doing smoothies all day. But like you said, if it's a busy day, maybe in the morning, we didn't have time to cook. That's a good time, or if lunch gets crazy, you know, at least trancing fuel for our body.   Katie  36:26 Yeah, yeah. Now, and that's, that's I say, like, I am just as much as a human is, as all of us are in this room? Well, like yeah, some days are just crazy. And you got to think about it. And if that's, if that's how that is working? And definitely, I just look at the balance part of it. And just I'm like, Yeah, okay, then it can be,   Roy Barker  36:53 well look at the two alternatives either not eating, which is never a good choice, or running through the nearest drive thru and getting something that's, you know, overly processed. So with this, we can at least troll what we're doing. And I think with the kale or spinach, and then with the mix of the protein powder, you know, I feel like it's a it's a pretty decent, we just have to watch with the fruit for me, especially because that kind of set me off a little bit. So we just temper temper that, but easily, it's pretty good.   Terry  37:25 And is there any, like, shoot, she talked a lot. And Delia did, she talked a lot about the differences and the processing of supplements, are there any that you might recommend to look into as far as more of a pure form to help us like with this omega 369 oil, you know, it's within the refrigerated section, and we're using that and we kind of cut out the the the fish oil supplements that we're taking, and now are looking at all the other ones that we're taking to as far as the way that their process?   Katie  38:08 Yeah, so I think so. Oftentimes, when something's a kind of like a fatty acid, which is what an omega three is, right? 369. That whole that whole family, so that that is going to be sensitive to heat, some of your other website, vitamins and minerals, not so sensitive to heat, right? However, gosh, this is a really tough question Terry, just because when, when looking at like, let's say like, if I'm looking at a iron ore, I'm looking at a vitamin A, then some of that kind of, let's say, like, format that it's made and might mean something different as far as not only processing but absorption.   So iron, if that's a liquid form, that's going to be much less kind of grams of of iron. And so with kind of with looking at this, or I should say milligrams of iron, I misspoke. My own my own, you know, knowledge there. But so so when looking at the processing, I don't necessarily have a hard rule of thumb unless it's like an oil based if you look at the pill, and it's more of like an like a liquidity, or it's like a capsule that's liquidity and so you're going to see that more with your kind of fat soluble vitamins or fatty acids and that family then I'm going to look for something that's like an oil, or they'll call it like buzzsumo. Typically. And so that's more of an oil base, because those are more sensitive to like the processing and the heat. Okay?   Roy Barker  40:16 That's a good rule of thumb to is the closer you can get to nature, the better because, you know, at one point they came out said, Oh, tumeric is a good, something that's good to take. And so, of course, silly me, I went out and found a tumor, you know, there was a cranberry pill that we took for a long time. And then it was like, Oh, well, it's a spice that we can buy, you know, as a spice and cook with what we know, I would assume that that's always better, the closer the pure form that you can get,   Terry  40:45 yes, ready to do the route that tumor turmeric root? And yeah, really adds a lot of good flavor. I mean, it it's flavor night and day difference.   Katie  40:54 Yeah, yeah. Well, and then also, I'll say this, too, is that, um, you know, let's just, like look at like color of like fruits and vegetables. And that's what's giving, that's kind of naming, right? Like the properties that are in there. And so you're not going to get, you're not going to get all the layers of what's going on in there, poly females, you're not going to get that from a pole form.   So So that's, I always look at it like that of like, Oh, you know, you're, you're getting vitamin C, but you're also getting polyphenols, you're also getting another level or another layer, or fiber also, which is also going to help that vitamin C, like, there's, there's more with that kind of natural part that you're getting than just that straight vitamin or straight men are, are, etc.   Roy Barker  41:55 And we don't recommend one, there's a couple different apps that we've used in the past. But, you know, from my personal opinion, that's always the best because you would be surprised, you know, I've been taking some vitamin C and you know, a couple other supplements that, you know, I've been my doctor said was okay to take. But then when you really look at the foods that you eat, when you start eating, what I would say, you know, is more healthy, especially more greens.   Now, all of a sudden, it's like you're getting all of that daily allotment of that you don't necessarily need to take the supplement or, you know, again, last night as a question. You know, if you kind of monitor that and make sure you're getting all your daily allotment, then you really don't have to take the supplements.   Katie  42:40 Right? supplements aren't meant to be what they are to supplement. Yeah.   Roy Barker  42:50 Exactly why I got so much so many and so much was because, you know, I knew I had such a poor diet, and that's what my doctors like him, not going to get you to change your diet, at least let's supplement to make sure you're getting some things to keep you healthy. But we have transitioned pretty much off of most everything. And, you know, we feel like we're getting a pretty good balance in our diet. But you know, this one that we use, man, it's a it gets down to, you know, some of these micronutrients, I just didn't even know what this was.   But the good thing is, is you can touch it, and it'll tell you where you can get it. So that's the other thing is, sometimes they give you these obscure vitamins or minerals that you really need, but things like, you know, somebody like myself would be, you know, I wouldn't even know where to find one of those if it jumped up and bit me. So, you know, some of these at least it'll point you in the right direction, but you know, eat more of this or that.   Katie  43:47 Yeah, yeah. Yeah. You know, I mean, definitely, I can say that, that, you know, supplements are meant to be supplemental, and they can be helpful and useful, especially if something's low, and we need to get that back up. Or if we're not getting enough from how we're eating, or we need extra to help. How kind of just to help, let's say like ourselves or a cellular process. Yeah. So yeah, yeah. But   Roy Barker  44:21 again, this is why, you know, we recommend reach out to your doctor to somebody like Katie who's a registered dietician, because, you know, some things counteract if you're on prescription medicines, supplements that will counteract those and then there's some things you shouldn't co mingle and some you take in the mornings and you take with meal. I mean, there's just all kinds of stuff.   But I think the other bottom line is getting to the base. Like you said earlier on some, you know, we were talking about the gut health is, you know, instead of just throwing stuff at it to see what's going to help us get a baseline and see. Are you deficient in a vitamin or mineral you If you're not getting it and can't pump up your diet, then it may be okay.   But it's, and I'm guilty, I will say I was guilty of that, you know, at one point is just like, Oh, well, I'm not getting all this stuff, and I just, you know, probably doing it way too much. But when you get back to the basics, it just makes it much more simple. You know, you're doing the right thing. And then of course, like I said, the professional help to get some guidance.   Katie  45:23 Yeah, yeah, I always think to the other thing, we we just as human beings will think more is better. And that's not always the case, either. So you, sometimes it's not healthy.   Roy Barker  45:41 For you know, like, some of the C's and DS, I think you probably just pass those through what I hear, but like, you know, iron is one that I think you have to be very careful with that. One is that you definitely don't want to step over the line. So definitely, there's some to, you know, make sure and that's the other thing, don't, we have to be honest, because we always talk about our journeys is, and I use this in business a lot is that, you know, it's like you want to go to, you want to go to Chicago, and it's like, Okay, well, I want to go to Chicago.   So I'm gonna go out my front door, and I'm gonna turn to the west and start walking. Well, if, if you're in Nevada, or somewhere, you're never going to get there. So it's just important to know, be honest with your healthcare practitioner and dietitian, be honest about really where you are, and take all these supplements in say, look, this is what I'm doing. And they can guide you because it's it doesn't help to not put it all out there.   Terry  46:43 Hey, I want to make sure that we have I'm sorry, I don't mean to change the subject. But I know we're a little time constraint. Yeah, I wanted to make sure that we mentioned that you talked about bariatric nutrition Pro. Can you tell us a little bit about that?   Katie  46:57 Yeah, so um, so my, you know, my background is is I'm a registered dietician. But I have worked with people going through bariatric surgery, and, gosh, 13 years. And so, so I definitely come from the place of being able to just look at that compassionately and thoughtfully, and so I created bariatric nutrition pro and that's, that's really for health professionals, actually, is to make sure that there's a foundation of even just moving surgery, talking about surgery, talking about unique kind of troubleshooting and needs of someone going through surgery and the surgical process.   So I definitely like to use that to teach professionals how to appropriately and compassionately approach nutrition with someone who has gone through bariatric surgery or protein, geriatric surgery, etc. And so, yeah, so I kind of have this, this couple of different hats that I that I wear, not only working with clients, one on one, and so that kind of covers, let's say, weight management, weight loss, and also bariatric surgery, gut health, hormonal health. So that's kind of my gamut there. And then also, at the same time, an expert resource for professionals as well.   Terry  48:40 That's awesome. Well, and people, people just think, you know, well, they've made the decision. Yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and do that. Very interesting. Well, it's just not that it's a huge lifestyle change.   Katie  48:53 Huge, huge, huge. And it's just, I, you know, I and I know that decision that wasn't made lightly either. So I love to just be someone's partner in kind of this, this whole health, health gaining surgery. That's what I actually really like to call it because, because, yes, okay, weight and weight loss, and even you guys approaching weight and weight loss, but really, you're trying to make health gains.   And if someone's using a surgical intervention for that, like, oh, okay, but, but we as practitioners, or you know, at least myself as a practitioner, I want to make sure that I know the ins and outs so that so I can be the partner through that really, really big decision and that lifelong decision, and I'm sure it helps so much just knowing that you don't have to do it alone. That has to be   Terry  49:52 a huge relief.   Katie  49:55 Yeah. And that's what I see actually with with a lot of my clients that who are going through this though, they'll just they'll reach out to me beforehand, oftentimes, and just say, like, I have so many questions. And there's so many like, you know, it's it's anxiety producing sometimes. And I'll just be like, Okay, all right, let's let's not getting overwhelmed. Granted, that's one thing at a time, and I, I've seen probably, at this point, about 8000 8000 people go through surgery. So I know, I know. Um, so I, I, you know, I also have a ton of experience of just like, you might feel this way, you might not, you heard this on the internet, it might be true, might not like, and just kind of that real world aspect. Part of it.   Roy Barker  50:50 And I know, we're short on time we are fixing wrap this up, I promise. But the one thing you know, one reason I haven't ever stepped out to do that is because there's a mindset component to I think that you really got to get your mind, right, because I knew somebody that they did that. And we used to have a there's a bunch of people from high school, you know, we would all get together every month or so and just, you know, sit around talking and this person wouldn't actually eat much because she had, she had some kind of a procedure, she would eat much.   But she would drink three or four margaritas. And then you know, she started gaining weight. And I started to be like, Well, okay, there's about 1200 calories in these six, it's said three, and that's like 4000 calories. You know, it's a huge mindset change. Because, you know, I guess the reality is, if you don't change your mind, and you still continue the poor ways,   Terry  51:48 you can hurt yourself even in the alcohol does not kill the calories. No, no.   Katie  51:55 No, no, I know. I know. But you're exactly right. I mean, I think with all of this too, I admittedly like there's such that mind component. And I definitely bring that into my work with with my clients too. Because it because that's really, you know, whatever we're doing is usually happening, body wise. And we're not, you know, brain is is kind of a different part of the body and it's going to, it's going to definitely message us in all different ways.   Roy Barker  52:32 up to six inches in laughter conquer the six the six between your ears.   Katie  52:39 Absolutely, yeah. So I even when it comes to surgery, I sometimes I'll tell people like, especially if I'm working with them for some time, I'll be like, oh, maybe we should pause on surgery and not meaning that it's not ever but I want someone who's going through this surgery this big when I fall train thing to really make sure that that all the all the parts and pieces are in place. Yes. So it feels like a really great process. And not a really struggling.   Roy Barker  53:14 Yeah. Yeah, cuz I guess the worst thing after going through that is to be not successful or to struggle after the fact is that, you know, that's even worse than some of the struggles that we have. But anyway, yeah, well, I'm gonna wrap this up, we could keep talking for another hour, I know that you've got to go. Thank you so much for coming on. Y'all reached out to Katie, see how she can help you. If it's just the I'm gonna let you say first, you know, who do you like to work with regular? I know, you said some things you did. But do you tend to want to work more with the bariatric patients or just with anybody.   Katie  53:53 And now I can say like, I definitely have a vast knowledge of bariatric nutrition. So I would say for anyone who is on their weight loss journey, I am happy to work with you at any spots within that one, but then also at the same time to you know, if there is that, like, oh, gosh, I internally am on the fence about bariatric surgery, then let's let's explore that a bit. Like definitely and then also I'll say like, thank god health and hormonal health and we didn't even talk too much about hormones.   Maybe another time. But, you know, within that if if just something you know, something's kind of curious or going on there, then it's been Yes, let's let's work together. Um, and I would say my, my, probably the best way to find me I should mention that is if you go to my website, which is Katie Chapmon.com so K A T I E and In my last name, C H A P M O N.com. You can schedule even just a quick kind of meet and greet call so we can find out from each other like, Hey, what's going on? And we can talk about, you know, next steps from there. That's probably the best way to do it.   Roy Barker  55:17 All right, great. Yeah, always good to reach out. Because the other thing we always suggest is you know, when you're working with any professional doesn't matter if it's a dietician, Doctor, CPAs lawyers that you have to make sure you have that connection that you really can trust and, you know, you want to follow their advice. So just reach out.   Terry  55:35 Katie is connectable. punch line.   Roy Barker  55:39 Yeah. Yeah, I know, Sherry, I'll send you money later. Thank you. We'll include all that in the show notes as well. But we're gonna let you one. One thing if you could just tell us quickly, is there a tool or a habit, something that you do in your daily life that just adds a lot of value?   Katie  55:59 Now, I, when we all kind of got shut down for the pandemic, I started this and I can say this has been a game changer for me. Every morning when I wake up, I always like I kind of monitor myself and say, like, okay, you really, really deserve to have time for yourself. Time for movement, and time for health. Because I think I kind of gotten the zone of like being it was real hard. We all know that it was real hard for a while there. And I needed for my mind to know like, Oh, yeah, okay, like instead of getting bogged down with all the things like you need to actually like you're, you're still important, you   Roy Barker  56:44 still I love that take time for yourself and take time for movement, because that's one that I have. Those are two things that I have missed out on or lost, you know, kind of lost in this whole thing. So getting centered today. I appreciate it. Katie, thanks for taking time out of your day. Thanks for your patience. I know we had some technical difficulties but we appreciate it. It's been awesome talking to you. That's gonna do it for another episode of Feeding Fatty Of course I am Roy and you can find us at www.feedingfatty.com or on all the major podcast platforms. iTunes, Stitcher, Google Spotify, we're on all the major social media platforms typically hang out more on Instagram than anywhere else. And this there will be a video of this interview will go up when it goes live as well so you can find that on YouTube. So until next time, take care of yourself and take care of your health. www.katiechampon.com www.feedingfatty.com

Feeding Fatty
How To Start Living Your Best Life After 50

Feeding Fatty

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 23, 2021 53:26


How To Start Living Your Best Life After 50 with Jan Malloch I realized there was a huge, huge gap in the market because there weren't personal trainers who are older, who could, you know, really empathize and whatnot with older men and women for that matter. Because, you know, you'll find older people will go to a personal trainer, and they'll be in their 20s, maybe their 30s. About Jan I'm a Fitness and Lifestyle Transformation coach for professional women over 50. I totally transformed my life at 62. I lost weight and qualified as a personal trainer specializing in helping older women to be fitter. Prior to this change, I never fully appreciated the importance of health and fitness, especially as you get older. I worked at a desk job, and was sedentary most of the time. Doing any form of physical exercise never entered my mind. I then came to the stark realization that my poor eating habits and lack of mobility were killing me. That's when I made the decision to do something about my life. The thought of ending up in a care home, sitting in the corner dribbling and being immobile really scared me. Unlike the vast majority of personal trainers, I know exactly how it feels to struggle to lose weight and how exhausting it is to be unfit. I also know how it feels to be older! All of these experiences have given me a much better understanding and empathy with my clients. I can personally relate to all of the women I work with – and they in turn relate to me. Let me ask you…do you relate to any of the following? Perhaps, as an older woman, you focus too much of your time on your work and families, to the detriment of your own health and well-being. Returning from work after a hectic and stressful day, you are then faced with trying to sort out the problems that your husband and kids are going through. A feeling of exhaustion and overwhelm often results in reaching for that wine bottle and ordering a takeout meal – just to escape from the havoc that is enveloping you. Much of the evening is spent in front of the TV. You continually make poor lifestyle choices regards your health, which leads to weight gain, lethargy and fatigue. And the more weight you put on, the more fatigued and stressed you become. My role is to stop this vicious cycle. I help older women to appreciate the critical importance of prioritizing their own health and fitness so that they can enjoy a dramatically improved healthy quality of life. Jan Malloch Website www.feedingfatty.com Full Transcript Below   How To Start Living Your Best Life After 50 with Jan Malloch Sun, 6/27 2:12PM • 53:06 SUMMARY KEYWORDS people, talking, day, walk, gym, personal trainer, weight, eat, overweight, healthy, jan, minutes, bit, work, life, age, lose, bad, adds, habit SPEAKERS Jan, Terry, Roy Barker   Roy Barker  00:07 Hello, and welcome to another episode of feeding fatty. This   Terry  00:09 is Roy, this is Terry. So   Roy Barker  00:10 we are the podcast that we're chronicling our journey through getting healthy can include, you know, our diet, what we eat our exercise, and of course, we have changed in, you know, talk a lot about mindset these days. So well, on our Tuesday releases, we usually have professionals, other people that are in the industry.   And then on Thursdays, we have been releasing, you know, kind of our personal stories where we are in our journey. And we've been talking a lot about diabetes, just because that is something that I deal with a lot. So anyway, without further ado, Terry, I'm gonna let you introduce Jan   Terry  00:50 Jan Malloch is a fitness and lifestyle transformational coach, for professional women over 50. She worked a desk job and was sedentary most of her life. She has a varied background, work and education. And is she is a coach. So, Jan, I just would love for you to, we'd love for them to hear from you as far as your background and how you found yourself in this position.   Jan  01:21 Well, I mean, certainly, I mean, I qualified as a personal trainer about three years ago, that was when I was 62. So doesn't take a mathematician to know I'm now 65, right?   Terry  01:31 Where you would have to help me with.   Jan  01:35 But I tell you how my journey started not because, you know, as you'd said, I'd always been sort of, you know, sitting in an office and all the rest of it. And I really didn't care too much for fitness or going to the jammer. And that because, you know, when you were younger, you didn't really bother, you know, because everybody's everybody's fit, everybody can do what they need to do and all the rest of it. But as I was getting older, FM certainly when I was in my early 50s, I thought I'm gonna have to watch you know what I'm doing, you know, health wise.   Now, my parents, and I have to say this better my parents, both of them died in their 50s. Yeah. Which was not good. And the thing was that both of them died because of their own poor lifestyle choices. That was that they both drank to excess, and they smoked to access. And they really just did not look after themselves. So my father, he died when he was 54. My mother was 59. And what I discovered was really, it was a case of Do you know what I'm now 52.   I don't want this to happen. Yeah. So basically, I stopped drinking, I stopped smoking. And that was that. But as the years went on, I found that I was still putting on weight. And I thought, you know what, I'm gonna have to do something about my weight. Because as we know, weight problems now are pretty well, as bad as being a smoker. In the olden days, if you don't realize how bad it is. So what I did was I started to lose weight.   And what I did was, I thought, you know, what, I really need to, you know, get some exercise, go to the gym, and all the rest of it. But again, I joined gyms before, but you know, you pay your monthly membership, you never actually go, but you feel as if you've done something by paying   Terry  03:33 for it.   Jan  03:36 So, you know, I got and I got this idea of what I could do is, if I really want to sort of try and get myself to go to the gym, they actually had a they had a volunteer program, and it was an actually aging Well, it was called. And it was noted to help people over 50 to be you know, Fisher. And I thought if I volunteer for this, this might encourage me to go to the gym. Yeah. Now, of course, the thing was, I didn't know what sort of volunteer work I'm going to do.   Because I thought, right, I'll meet with this woman and she'll say, Well, how about Chang can fix our computers or we can do a bit of receptionist work or something of that, you know, something that was more based on what I had done before. But she, she sort of talked to me and she said john, do you fancy training to do seated exercise for frail older adults? And I thought, Oh, I could do that. So that's where I started on my fitness journey.   And then I thought, right well, what I'm gonna do is I'm because I'm just beginning to lose weight because of, you know, the the exercise I was doing, and I thought, let's become a gym instructor. And then when I became a gym instructor, they said to me on the course john, you need to be a personal trainer. That's what you need to do. And that's what I did. And then I focused on older people. But the thing is that I So I've lost track of what we were talking.   Roy Barker  05:06 Now you were just talking about how your, your path to becoming that person, you   Jan  05:09 know you well, this is it? Yes. Basically, I think I'm really, I think it's a case of whenever you get opportunities, you don't know where they're gonna go. And what you want to do is grab hold of those opportunities. Because obviously, if I hadn't have gone along to volunteer with the gym, I would probably still be sitting in an office somewhere still overweight, not looking after myself.   Terry  05:35 Yeah, new opportunities just breed possibilities for new life.   Roy Barker  05:40 I mean, exactly, exactly. You have to be open to them. That's the main thing is we have to be open and willing to take that chance willing to learn,   Terry  05:48 willing to learn Yeah, no, I   Roy Barker  05:50 think that's awesome. You know, we, I think a couple things I was writing down while you were talking there is that, you know, sitting is the new smoking. And that's why, you know, so many of us now are tied to a computer, and then then a lot of people that made a transition from working in an office to working from home.   And it's, it is hard to realize this, and this is no lie, that working at home, if I don't make an effort to actually do something else, I can usually end up the day with maybe three to 500 steps total, you know, walking from the bedroom, bathroom, desk, kitchen, desk, back to the bedroom. And that's it. And so, you know, I think it's just become more Paramount that we have to actually be conscious of this. So we can take that extra effort to do things, you know, get up because it's going to catch up with us.   Either orthopedically, you know, setting on our hips and our back and everything else or the weight that we've gained, because I'll have to say I've put on a few, you know, COVID pounds myself. But we really have to make that effort to say we've got to we got to move today, because it really doesn't matter how eight how old we are. It's gonna catch up with us eventually. There's just no.   Jan  07:12 It's interesting to Roy, because you were talking about, and it's funny how this has now come into our language. COVID pounds, that's now a part of our everyday language, isn't it? But the thing is, there are a lot of people who they've actually taken advantage of the situation and they've actually become better. Oh, no, because, you know, they're working from home. So therefore, they don't have all this commute and all that. So they might have a bit more spare time. So they are looking after themselves. But I would say the vast majority of us aren't. We've everything slide.   Roy Barker  07:48 Somebody was telling me that, you know, they they say they called the COVID-19 that they not team pounds I put on my wall. I'm an overachiever. I have the COVID 38. Because I think probably I've doubled that for sure. But it's uh, you know, our gyms were shut down for a little bit. And that, you know, that, you know, a lot of people catch me like, Well, you know, you don't have to work out to lose weight.   You know, it's all 80% your diet, which I get that, but for me personally, I think they're all intertwined and tied together that, for me to feel good. And for me to, to be able to walk by something that is not healthy. I need to be moving and feel healthy feel like I'm doing because if I'm just sitting around the house not doing anything. To me, it's so much easier to eat bed.   Jan  08:41 Well, the thing is, exercise isn't just for trying to lose weight, exercise, it's just to stay healthy. That's the important thing is   Terry  08:50 important for mindset, important for mindset, right? Isn't that and   Jan  08:55 what is it? Well, this is obviously, in this COVID thing. I mean, a lot of people are suffering from really bad mental health issues, stress, anxiety, all the rest of it. And the thing is, if you're locked away in your own house, in those four walls, you're going to get really feeling low, you're going to feel depressed. But if you can just go out and at least have a bit of a walk out in the fresh air. Think about things, you know, just even look at a tree and say, Wow, that's amazing. You know, I couldn't build a tree. You know, things like that, you know, it's just to focus in and really start appreciating what you've got out there. That's the thing.   Roy Barker  09:36 Yeah. Yeah. And for me creativity, you know, like I do a lot of, you know, problem solving. So if I get kind of jammed up or whatever, it's amazing just going out and taking that 15 minute walk, how it clears my head. And it also, I guess it kind of sparks my creativity because not only I'm working on but Luckily for Terry, it gives me a chance to think about other ideas for her to implement. He's like, I gotta go walk with you. So I can talk with you. So you don't think it's   Terry  10:10 a great idea. Think about all these other things that he wants to end.   Roy Barker  10:15 But, but even going with that, with that theory that the other part I think that troubles me is I love to go to the gym. But when I go to the gym, I love to stay for two or three hours, because I like to do some cardio, I like to do the weights. If they have a punching bag, or you know, do whatever, just a little bit of everything. And but sometimes you get in this this rut of Well, I don't have two hours to go spin. But yeah, it's not really about that. I mean, I have to refocus and say, you know, what, if I could just go get 15 minutes in two things. It's 15 minutes, I'm moving, but it's 15 minutes, I'm not sitting in front of a TV eating something that I shouldn't be eating.   Jan  11:00 Exactly, yes. Yeah. Yes, it is. I mean, obviously, if you're trying to get out of habits of, you know, I mean, people say, oh, what I do is I sit in front of the TV, and I eat all this junk food and whatnot. And they'll start saying, Well, what could I eat instead? well forget about eating altogether. Think about what else could I do? That's the important thing.   Roy Barker  11:25 Yeah, being in motion. And, you know, we think that we've talked about, you know, we talk pre show about some other stuff, but you know, about the, you know, my watch that I'm wearing now, cuse me to try to get 250 steps in every hour, instead of waiting, you know, to the end of the day, because we've talked that, for me, it's easier to commit to.   I can get up for two or three minutes, every hour to take a few steps. versus if I wait and say, Okay, I'm going to the gym or even get out in the neighborhood and walk tonight. So many things that can come up between now and tonight. Like, don't feel like it anymore. Maybe it starts to rain, you know, a million things, but we need to that little incremental stuff, it really adds up and is probably a much better plan. Would you say?   Jan  12:17 Oh, definitely. I mean, it's amazing how many excuses you can come up with, not to do particular things. Especially I mean, if you're talking about an hour or two hours, that's a huge chunk of your day. But if you knew you were just getting up from two, three minutes, even five minutes, it's no big deal. You know, you can do it. it's manageable. That's the thing. I think a lot of people when they're saying, oh, I've got to do all this stuff, I've got to go to the gym, and I've got to dedicate hours and hours and hours. No, you don't. You've got to start somewhere. And always start small, and do things that you enjoy doing. That's the important thing.   Roy Barker  12:57 Yeah, yeah. And we'll kind of keep on top of that consistency. Because, you know, if you will do those small things every day, over a length of time, you will start to see the compounding effect of that. Whereas, you know, if you make a commitment to get up and walk for a couple minutes for a day, you're not gonna see much effect of that. So that consistency factor is, and that's hard. You know, that's hard. that's usually where we fail with a lot of things is, we can do it for two or three weeks.   But it's trying to make that mindset change to where, you know, this is a life style change, this isn't permitted thing. And I think if we, I may, I'm gonna ask this as a question. But if we try to visualize the change that we want, in the incremental steps, not in this huge package, it makes it much easier for us to achieve, you know, what do I actually need to do today? worry about that knot. I've got all this, you know, I want to do all of this within a year, but you know, maybe what do I need to do today to be held   Jan  14:03 up? It's really a case of you break it all down into tiny, tiny chunks. That's it, you know, so, you know, don't be sort of thinking, right, okay, in a year's time, I want to lose 100 pounds in weight, something like that. I don't think that's way too big a goal to be looking at. What you want to be doing is saying every day, Well, today, I'm going to eat more vegetables. I'm going to forget that cake or whatever. And I'm going to keep doing it. And you know what, before you know what, you've actually lost that 100 pounds without really having to sacrifice too much in your life. That's the important thing. Yeah,   Terry  14:43 read there. I'm gonna I'm gonna remember that. Forget the cake. I'm gonna keep saying that's gonna be my mind. From now on. Forget the cake.   Jan  14:53 Well, you know one thing you know, it's very easy nowadays. You go into the supermarket and everything's there. And not only Is it there? But, you know, they're making it so cheap, you know, for all these, this junk food is just so drastically cheap, it's ridiculous. And you go and buy it, they're even thinking, and you know what? Well, let's reverse this try and say, Well, if I want a cake, then I'm gonna have to buy the flour, the eggs, the milk, I'm gonna have to find your recipe, and I'm gonna have to bake this, you know, think about that. Yeah. And then at least it's a bit of effort you're having to put in, rather than just reaching into the cupboard and eating.   Roy Barker  15:33 I don't think about it in those terms. But you're right, it's so easy for us to eat bad these days. because like you said, everything's ready made.   Terry  15:41 Yeah. All together, you don't have to, you don't have to use your time to do with the prep work.   Roy Barker  15:47 Yeah, or the drive throughs. You know, we were we were talking to, you know, another young man this morning. And that was kind of what he was saying that, you know, he plays in a band. And when he left, he had a long drive home. And he said, he always had to go by a particular restaurant with the drive thru. And it was very easy for him to pull in. And then it was kind of like, satisfying his boredom while he had this long drive. And he said, you know, eventually, he could see that, that started taking a toll on him.   Jan  16:16 And that was definitely a habit, because what he would have been doing is in a particular part of his journey, he would say, Oh, I'm just approaching this driving, which we will not name. That's just approaching this. So your mind then says, okay, right. That means you have to buy this, and we're going to have to eat this. And so the habit soon came into to action, whether he was wanting it or not, it was gonna happen. Yeah,   Roy Barker  16:44 yeah. In the intro, I taught I've begun to mention this more is that, you know, we started out this talking about changing some of our eating habits, and then like, trying to get consistent with our Yeah, be more consistent with the exercise and things that we did through the day. But we've really migrated to mindset because, again, you know, some things that you've mentioned, like having the big 100 pound goal in a year, it's daunting.   And if you think about that, it makes you want to go eat something, whereas you think about, I just need to get these steps in, you know, in sometimes maybe we take it minute by minute, if I got a couple minutes, I need to get some steps in it's better than eating. But the mindset portion of this very important, not only to get started, but then that sustainability as well.   Jan  17:34 Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I think actually talking about that, you really need a good, good reason why you want to lose the weight. That's the thing. Yeah. And it has to be an internal thing. You have to, you know, do this for yourself, you know, you there's no point in your husband and wife, or whatever, saying, Oh, you know, you're getting all fat, you've got to lose weight. That's not helping you. Because you're not you haven't bought into that idea. You've got to buy into it.   And you've got to list all the reasons why you want to lose the weight. I mean, for instance, I mean, I did lose 70 pounds, but I'm sure you're thinking well, I lost 70 pounds, because I want to be healthy. I've got two young grandkids, I want to be able to be at their weddings, I want to be able to dance, their weddings and all that. So health is absolutely crucial for me. So what you do is you find that if there are any sort of weak moments that you have, what you do is you just remind yourself of these flies, and that keeps you going.   Roy Barker  18:41 Now I will say Terry is very slender, and very nice figure. But I have not lived this long by being dumb and saying, Hey, honey, you've got to put on a few pounds. Maybe you need to hit the gym over there. Something like that. Yeah,   Terry  18:55 I say it. It's one thing, but I might have to whack you over the head find me very well,   Roy Barker  19:03 I am somewhere.   Jan  19:04 Interesting thing is, and this happened to Oh, this was a good 10 years ago or so that my husband said, john, it's this since when I was big. And he said, john, you know, why is it that you whatever goal you set yourself, you can achieve it. But you're still so heavy. And that actually set me on the road to thinking I'm gonna prove him wrong. So now this doesn't work with everybody, but it certainly worked with me. I thought I'll show him I will. I'm gonna go and lose this weight. You know?   Terry  19:39 Isn't that something? Oh, I love that. I mean, I you know, and I have not. I carried probably for about 1520 years I I carried a good amount of weight and about three years ago. I start I mean made myself go work at a farmers market? out, I wanted to be paid to go be fit and go do exactly, you know, I wouldn't get paid a lot, but I knew that something had to motivate me to do it. And I needed to do it. So I was able to lose at like 8590 pounds.   Roy Barker  20:18 Wow. Yeah. And she you know, every day she would, I don't know, you probably got a minimum of 12,000 steps. But you were, you know, bending over lift and stuff move into it. You know, it's just constant motion all day long. Which That's awesome. And you were you are getting paid to be fit?   Terry  20:37 Yes, me Yes, fit. And then I had a goal, I figured out a way to make it hat and I didn't think about I've just thought about I wanted to be fit, I wanted to lose a little weight. I didn't think about the overall picture, I just these little steps. And that's exactly what happened. Oh, it's just clicking. It did. Yep.   Jan  20:57 Yep. So you found the solution. That's the thing, don't be focusing on the problems. And I think a lot of people just focus on problems, what you want to do is come up with a solution. That's the idea. And you achieve that really well, without having too much of a stack base, and even got a few pennies at the end of the week as well.   Terry  21:18 A few, very few, but I got so that was the main thing.   Roy Barker  21:23 The Um, so starting out, everybody is different. And this is one thing that we talk about frequently is that, you know, if you're going to work with somebody, if they say, hey, I've got this great plan that's worked for 50 other people, that may be a little bit of a red flag for me, because I want somebody to ask questions to try to make, you know, like, I don't like to run, I don't mind walking the weights and all that, but I'm not much of a runner.   So if you came at me and said, Hey, the great solution for you is run 10 miles every day or something. I mean, I'm not make it for a day, but that that's gonna be it. So how do you start out? You know, if somebody was to ring you up and say, Hey, I'd really like to work with you. How do you start out with that?   Jan  22:08 Well, really, it's it's a case of obviously asking a lot of questions. I mean, obviously, you have to get to know the person first. Because you have to build up that rapport, where you know, that you will work together? Well, because remember, I'm basically taking responsibility for helping them to be healthier. Yeah. And they have also got quite a responsibility to do what I'm asking them to do. That's the thing. So the thing is, as you were saying, right, everybody is totally different. Everybody's got different goals. Everybody's got different requirements.   So it's really a case of right. What do you actually want to achieve? Yeah, let's see where you are. This is point A, let's see what you want to do at point B. And let's see what we can do to make this happen. Yeah. So then, yeah, as you say, if somebody says, There's no way I want to do any running or anything, so therefore, you obviously wouldn't get them to train for the marathon. That's it. Right? Whereas a lot of people would say, Oh, that's the only way to lose weight is to run a marathon and things like that, well, that's a load of nonsense, you know.   So you have to finely tune it to that particular person and their needs. Because Do you know, exercise if we can start thinking about this as more like play because obviously, as a kid, you were out playing all the time, and you enjoyed it, you were physically active, because you were playing, you did what you enjoy. So this is what you want to do with exercise, trying to think of it as more like play, and you're wanting to do what you want, not what you're being told to do   Roy Barker  23:47 right now. Yeah. And you can flip that switch by instead of the oh my gosh, it's time for me to go to the gym, I have to go again. We we should turn that around and say, You know what, I get to go I mean, because it's if you think about other people who are in worse physical shape, or may have even died from not being in good health, it's actually a privilege that you can actually go and so kind of flipping that switch was is exactly the right way to think about that.   Jan  24:17 Wow, that is brilliant. I've got your number now. Wow, I mean, that's it because you'll say Well, hold on. I can go to the gym because I can I physically can go to the gym. That's right.   Roy Barker  24:32 Yeah. When you get to be a certain age like myself, it's uh, you know, you look around a lot of people that haven't made it this far or that are in so much worse, worse health, that just can't they wish they could and then here I am perfectly healthy and think that it's a chore that I have to do so. But also talking about the, you know, selecting somebody to work with. It's good to have this trust because you're going to ask me to do things that I need to have this trust and a connection with you.   To be like, okay, she knows what she's doing and not be resistance and put up like, yeah, you know that fuss with you about, Hey, I just need to do what I'm asking I'm gonna get an outcome. And then also you have that cheerleader, the accountability and that you know, because there are going to be days that even the most active person is going to be like, I'm tired. I don't really feel like it. But that's where you can kind of be that the voice of reason. therapist, yeah,   Jan  25:31 yeah. But yes, you meet, you actually need that accountability. I mean, I have my I have a personal trainer. Now I only trained with him once a week. But you know, a lot of people say, you got a personal trainer, you are a personal trainer, you could just make out of your own workout programs to go along to the gym and all that. And I say, Well, I'm not necessarily wanting to go to the gym. That's a problem.   Yeah, right. But if I know, at half past two and a Monday afternoon, I'm seeing my personal trainer. Well, I think of myself as being a reliable person. So I don't want to let him down. I don't want to let me down. So therefore I go. And the thing is, once you're there, it's brilliant. And of course, obviously, he builds up my confidence and all the rest. And, you know, you'll say, Oh, well, I want you to look this certain way, you know, this week? And you'll say, you'll say to yourself, no, I don't know if I could do that. But he'll say, Oh, yes, you can. And before you know what, you have actually done what he reckons you can do. That's great.   Roy Barker  26:36 Yeah, no, that's a good point that, you know, even trainers have to have trainers, because it's like a, you know, a barber, a barber can't cut his own hair. And then, you know, with warriors, they say any lawyer that tries to represent himself has a fool for a client. So you know, it only makes good sense that you know, that we all need that help. And that encouragement no matter what position we're in. Exactly, yes, yes.   Terry  27:00 Yeah. And I don't like I mean, I, I have never had a trainer or coach or anything. Maybe that's what I'm, I need one. But I don't like to be told what to do. And there's a fine line there. Right? I don't they don't tell you. They encourage Yes,   Roy Barker  27:17 I strongly. Yeah, the nice thing about the trainer too, is I had one that actually came to the house. So you know, there was no escaping this guy. Because if I was on the phone talking with somebody, and he like did a little Knock, knock. If I wasn't on the door, immediately, he was like banging on the windows, like, I know, you're in there, you're not I'm not going away. But he really made sure that I got this. And that was the beauty of having him come to the house is I didn't have to make a decision to get a car and to drive somewhere.   And the other cool thing about it is, you know, kind of like you do It's like he wasn't just standing, we weren't going to a gym, and he was standing there counting reps on a machine working on. I mean, like he personally designed. We're, you know, kind of odd stuff for me to do you know, if we worked with the big one of those big old bouncy balls rolling on it, and they had some other things that he would bring in the house. And it just just wasn't routine. Yeah, yeah, not the same thing every day. But it was also like trying to work on building core, as well as extremities, but not just, you know, going in and saying, Okay, give me 10 you know, give me 10 on the arms and then one.   Jan  28:32 Yeah, that that's interesting. Because my, my personal trainers like that, he will always give me a variety of different things to do. And, you know, I remember when I started with, and this has been 18 months ago when I started working with him. And I said to him, are you going to tell me what we're actually going to do today? You said no. Good answer. I told you what we weren't gonna do, you would probably just walk out the door.   Roy Barker  29:02 Yeah, when I would hear my god drive up, I'd look out the window and see what he was getting out of his truck that day that we're gonna have to go through. But yeah, it's important because it's the again, we're looking for that consistency, you know, taking smaller steps. And that's the great thing about asking the questions, finding out where I am in this journey, you know, am I overweight? And have I been active because then you can design something to start me out slow.   And I think one one thing you talked about with some of your clients that are especially that are aging, some is one of your assessments is like how many times can you get up and down out of a chair, which is impressive. Yeah. Because the you know, no matter what we're all at this. We've all got something especially the older we get, we all have something that may be a little bit quirky about us that, you know, maybe bad hip, bad arm or whatever, but that allows that kind of personalization of what we're going to do.   Jan  30:00 Yeah, I think actually, although, you know, you're talking about sort of, you know, if I were dealing with older people, which I tend to do, but remember now, people in their 20s 30s can be extremely overweight. Yeah. And they might as well be in their 60s or 70s. Because of their lack of mobility. That's the thing. You know,   Roy Barker  30:22 are you seeing a lot of that? Oh, yes, yes. Okay. You know, now that you mentioned it, I think I did read something not long ago about that. They, they're kind of worried about this being an epidemic of the younger people being overweight and then having the diabetes as well.   Jan  30:40 Well, this is what they're saying. Because you think about it, if you have a whole load of young younger people who are totally overweight, who, who are going to be our policemen, or firemen. Yeah, all these jobs that need you need to be physically fit to do and it really is really worrying, you know, when you think on it, because we've got, and it's the same boat in the States or Britain or wherever you are, two thirds of the population is overweight or obese. Wow. And that only means we've only got a third of the population that are what would be classed as healthy enough to do physical dopes? Yeah, yeah, we   Terry  31:21 need those youngsters to stay fit and in shape, so they take care of us. I mean, we need to be fit, we're gonna be so healthy, we'll be looking at that. Right, we're gonna have to do it ourselves.   Roy Barker  31:36 A great time in life. For me, because I grew up in the age of, you know, you went outside and you had a rock and a stick. And that was how you entertained yourself. Today, you know, we rode bicycles, we played football by you know, just like pickup games in the neighborhood. But it was constant activity. We didn't have a video game. I think in the end, my later years maybe Pong came out but it you know, we had little things that slid up and down. But you know that I got pretty old after a while. But, you know, swimming, we always had places to go hunting, fishing. I mean, goodness, we were just it was constant activity.   And then, you know, that's one thing that really hurt me when I got to, you know, be in my 20s settle down, start having a family and a job then, you know, all that went away. And that was kind of when I started adding a little bit of weight. But you know, the good news is now I've kind of transitioned that we have all this technology at our hands and we can talk about that a little bit but unfortunate some of the other thing was the freedom to be on Rome. Our parents didn't really have to worry if we were coming home sometimes they more were worried that we make found our way home,   Terry  32:48 which is by darn by the time the streetlights Come on. Just get home. Yeah, but you know, now finally now. I   Jan  32:55 mean, you're talking about you know, how it was before I took my two I've got a grandchild, I'm sorry, two grandsons. One is age two, one is age six. Oh, and what I did was, and a lot of their time is spent in front of screens. That's it. But I thought one afternoon, I thought no, we're going to go out. And I'm going to show them just as I did when I was a girl, how to make bows and arrows. Yeah. So we literally went out.   And we chose the sticks. And I brought the twine, and I had my my pen knife thing and all that sort of thing. And we made bows and arrows. And I tell you, we were walking back. And every person that we came across, my grandson would say we've just made our own toys, and it didn't cost us anything.   Terry  33:46 Oh, that's awesome.   Jan  33:47 Yeah, that was so that's bringing the true value of what it was when we were kids, you know, because we had to make our own entertainment. You know, that was it?   Roy Barker  33:56 Yeah. And, you know, just like us. You know, we even rode our bikes to and from school, or we walked, you know, there was usually a bunch of us, but you know, like my kids, they weren't allowed, you know, things that changed enough by then that they weren't allowed to just do that by themselves. Now, if I had a day off, and I could ride over there with him, then somebody would come pick, pick us up, you know, pick up the bikes, but, you know, the world has just changed so much that that.   So it's just not an option for a lot of kids, single parents, I have to work a lottery, families working a lot just to survive. And so and then, you know, we've got the digital screens to entertain them, you know, at that age, so I guess it could, I guess it really could be a big problem.   Jan  34:41 Mind you, when you talk about the 50s and the 60s, we had what we still have television, and they were worried about that, remember?   Terry  34:49 Yeah, yeah. Well, and we were there remote controls to we were an old time Yeah.   Roy Barker  34:58 Yeah. Yeah. So now we've made it That's how we got fit. So now we've made a screen that travels with the right. Price, right? Yes, yes. Well, um, so, I guess, one, let's talk about that instance for a minute is that, you know, so what do you suggest for somebody that is way, way out of shape? You know, maybe overweight? And maybe he hasn't been that active?   I mean, kind of how do you start them off, where you can, you know, not run them off, because you got, I guess that's a challenge that you have is that you have to set something up, to help them out where they're bettering themselves, but not overload them where they just give up?   Jan  35:42 Yeah, that's it. Again, it's all about starting small, you know, you'd say, I mean, again, it depends on how old the person is what how much weight they're carrying, because a lot of people might find walking three or four minutes is more than they can handle, you know. So basically, what you're saying is, you know, just get up out of your chair, just walk around the house, Tibet for as much as you can, that's the thing. It's all about getting moving.   That's it. Now, there'll be a lot of people who are more than fit enough to actually go and have a good half hour walk, you know, but they choose to sit on a couch all the day, you know, but it's the case of just let's just see how you can do it. Even if it's 10 minutes spurts, just get up and then once you start this as a habit, you are going to feel the benefits, and therefore you're going to keep wanting to do it. That's the thing.   Roy Barker  36:38 Yeah. So what was it?   Terry  36:40 I'm sorry, I was just gonna say, What do you have? Do you have something that you say to them, that makes them more confident that they can achieve their goals, their, their small habits, their larger habit? What would you do? Again, it   Jan  36:57 depends on who the person is. But, uh, you know, again, individual, that's the thing, you know, you know, so that's, you know, again, I don't have a cookie cutter answer for that, because I know, we don't deal with cookies.   Roy Barker  37:15 I shouldn't be dealing with them either. But every now and then I do.   Jan  37:20 Yeah, really, it is. It's really a case of motivating, encouraging, trying to persuade, if you like, you know, talking about you know, you will, it's probably sounds really hard, but you really give it a try. Let's see, you know, you really will feel the benefits, you   Terry  37:37 know, you'll be surprised at what you can achieve, you know, yeah, exactly. When things get out of their reach. And then they start doing   Jan  37:45 again, we're talking about the mindset because somebody is closes their mind off right away and says, No, I cannot do this. You know, you have to sort of say, You know what? I bet you I bet you could, you could?   Roy Barker  37:58 Yeah, yeah. And yeah, and they have to really believe that or, you know, it's like pushing an elephant up a set of stairs, if they don't, because they've got, you know, I'll speak for me, I have to buy into the process that this is good for me. And this is what I want before. I can take anybody else's advice or any direction from that. But one thing I was going to ask you is like, Why do people come to you?   Or what do you think, is the most reason that people tell you? Is it because I don't look good? In my dress clothes, or because my clothes are tight? Because I walked up the flight of stairs and had to stop and huff and puff before I could walk up the next slide. What do you see that most people tell you why they come to you?   Jan  38:44 Well, certainly, everybody who comes to me is because they're overweight in some, some shape or form. But do you know what it's the main thing is because they lack of energy, they don't have the energy to do anything. Yeah. And the thing is more junk food you eat, the more energy is sapped out of your system. And it's funny, a lot of people think that the more rubbish but just the more you eat, the more energy you'll have. totally opposite. totally opposite. And a lot of people think the more I move, the less energy I'll have. Again, it's a total reverse.   Roy Barker  39:22 Yeah, because there are days when, you know, I start dragging, and if we will get out and just go for a little 1015 minute walk. It just really seems to perk me up. I come back just a lot more energized and ready to sit down and get after it.   Jan  39:36 Yeah, it's a lot of things are it's totally counterintuitive. You know, you think the more physically active I am, the more exhausted I would become, can be off in the desert, you know, totally different. Or the more I the more energy I'm gonna have no opposite.   Roy Barker  39:52 Yeah, and we talked a lot about the balanced approach. And I used to have a sign hanging over my desk for a lot of years that I had. Of course, you know, eat rot. But sleep is huge. And sleep is something that I found is the biggest catalyst for me to go totally off the reservation that you got to get that sleep. Because when I wake up feeling a little bit like that, then it's like, you know, you do what you say you try to go eat for that quick pick me up, which, to me, it'll help me for about 1015, maybe even 30 minutes, but then you get that crash, you know, an hour or two later, you start losing it.   Whereas, you know, getting the sleep. And the other thing is water, I don't drink water, and then breathe in deep. I'm a shallow breather. So those are things that you know, we tried to do too, because getting that oxygen in is refreshing. And you know, I've had actually had people comment on that. If you're doing something well, yeah, I'll be like, one of them. The worst one was we were at a, we call those a painting paint, you know, they have the painting instructor at the front of the room. And yeah, painting and I'm sitting there painting.   And this lady walked by the instructor after she got us going, she walked by I said, It's okay, if you take a breath. And that, you know, obviously she could tell from wherever she was that I wasn't breathing. But if I do I find that, you know, not only the stress full, but concentration, if I'm really concentrating, you know, so you just need to make yourself stop. There's all these little things, I think that help us, we just have to   Jan  41:32 And this is interesting, because you're talking about increasing your amount of sleep, talking about breathing, these are things that cost us nothing. But we have to be more aware of what we're doing. And we have to be looking after ourselves. That's the thing. I mean, a lot of people they live very, very stressful lives. And of course, the thing is that the less sleep you have, the more stressed you're going to be. And you know, it's funny, because people will say, Well, I'm just going to fight on regardless, I'm just going to keep working, I'm going to keep working even though I'm really tired. But your productivity levels just absolutely love.   Terry  42:08 Oh, wait that way I was going back.   Roy Barker  42:11 I wish I could attend just doesn't work. Was that gonna turn Terry's headphones off right before you just had me we've just had this conversation over the last a few days a week or so like, Oh, my gosh,   Terry  42:26 repeat, repeat, repeat, rewind. But   Roy Barker  42:30 it's very important, you know, to try to wrap all these things together, they just because they're so interdependent. And, you know, we talk, we have another show the for kind of the aging and caregivers. And this is something that we talk about on there a lot is that self care, because you can't help anybody else, if you aren't at the top of your game.   And then it's like, it's like emergency responders, you know, the fire department, when when they go in to a dangerous situation like a drug lab or shooting, you know, they're always told, well, we need to make sure it's safe. Because if you go into a bad situation, now we've got to come find somebody to help save you. And it's kind of the same way in our health if we have to have we can't look after other people in our life, if we have to have somebody looking out after us.   Jan  43:19 Yeah, yeah, I think this is the thing that people as you know, we do tend to look after other people before we look after ourselves. And we really have to, you know, just sort of get a grip and say, No, you have to start looking after yourself. It's you that's responsible, you know, responsible for your own health. So and once you know that you're going to be healthy, then you can help other people.   Roy Barker  43:47 Yeah, kind of like the thing in the, the airplane to you know, put your mask on first before you start helping everybody else. And I think it's, it's very true in this in this health arena as well. You know, we have to, and we just want to live our best life and we can't live our best life if we're not feeling the best. And then, you know, one thing we've talked about before as well is that, you know, I'm get to this point, I worry about what am I gonna be like in 1020 years?   Because I think if you go into older age, not as healthy as you could be, you really set yourself up for some things to go bad. You know, yeah. And I don't think anybody wants to be, you know, a burden to your family or to your loved one that somebody has to take care of you so that I think that's really something that over the last two, three years that has really sparked me to take   Jan  44:44 this thing because it's not only life expectancy, it's healthy life expectancy. A lot of people are spending 20 sorry, a fifth of their lives being unhealthy, you know, they might live To be some in the 80s or whatever, but if you're talking about a fifth of your entire life just being unhealthy, yeah, that's not helping anybody. Yeah.   Terry  45:10 Yeah. No. And I think the ultimate goal? Well, I don't know, I think everybody's ultimate goal is to help each other I think, yeah. Especially family, for sure. But as a community, so we can all be successful and lift each other.   Roy Barker  45:24 Yeah, we started talking. And one of our things we talked about a little bit is not outliving your health. And that's unfortunate. So many times we do that, you know, it could be we have a good mind, but our body doesn't work. And you know, you think about that, what, what kind of a sentence is that? To have a mind that's well working, but you can't you don't have a body to get up and do things or, you know, vice versa. A lot of times now, the, you know, we well,   Jan  45:52 you know, I, it was a lady I'm speaking to and this was so sad the story because she had the, you know, been both The couple have both worked and all the rest of it. And they had this dream about when they retired, you know, they would go and buy a house in this. I don't know where it was, but they wanted to buy a house in this particular place. And they had enough money and they bought the house. Yeah. And of course, all they had all these plans, what they were going to do in their retirement. But in the meantime, they had actually put on so much weight. While they were working that yes, they managed to buy the house, but they could not do any of the things that they had planned to do now.   Terry  46:35 Yeah, that's, that's amazing. I mean, I would hate hate to be in that situation, but you just don't, you know, you got to think you have, like you said earlier, you have to be more self aware of what's going on. So   Roy Barker  46:50 you can address it. Yeah, and we challenge people to start earlier, because when you're in your 20s, and 30s, maybe even 40s, you don't think about it a lot, you know, you're you can, you can eat worse, and it not affect you as much. But then, you know, it's this compounding effect that we've talked a little bit about that, you know, all these bad habits start adding up. And then when you get to be a little bit older, it's hard to break these habits and make a switch.   And sometimes, already, you know, like the diabetes and things, sometimes we've already became ill or you have a disease that we can't turn around or you know, it has negatively affected us in some other way that we can't recover from that. So, you know, get started early think about these decisions, because they're going to live with you the rest of your life. Exactly. Yeah.   Terry  47:39 And tomorrow minute. I mean, tomorrow may never come Don't put it off. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Sound like a commercial.   Jan  47:47 Well, the thing is that so many things nowadays, you know, whether it's diabetes, or heart disease, or whatever, a lot of it is, it's within our control. Yeah, if we can look after ourselves, you know, it's not like COVID or something like that, which you really cannot control, you know. So it's really our own lifestyle that makes what the quality of our life the end of the day.   Roy Barker  48:11 Yeah, I think go to a doctor and get checked out. Because just like myself, I just happened to find out that I was diabetic, and I wasn't that bad off. able to catch it soon enough. But it was an accident. I didn't think you know, wasn't feeling sick. And, you know, we had another guest. It's been quite a while. JOHN, I can't think I can't Alaska Cove Alaska, he he had a really poor diet. And he actually passed out, you know, at work from a diabetic coma, I guess and was taken to the hospital. And so anyway, just   Terry  48:43 don't even know he I mean, he had no idea that he had diabetes.   Roy Barker  48:47 I think his blood sugar was what in the four or five hundreds and anyway, yeah, it was something that he was able to catch and turn around. And but again, if you go to the doctor, find this stuff out in free screenings, you know, we're going to talk about that. We went to a free screening with something, but there's all kinds of things that you can do to try to find out where you are. So you can get yourself on a better course, if necessary, you can get   Terry  49:14 hold of Jan and talk to her about figure it out. Yeah, she's very motivational. Yeah, I can get you going. Well, speaking   Roy Barker  49:23 of that, we're gonna wrap Jan, do you have anything else that you want to add before we get away?   Jan  49:29 No, I it's been a pleasure being on the program. It's been great. Well, thanks. I mean, I think really, I think people just have to remember that it's really our responsibility for our own health, you know, and, you know, it's just trying to think of what you're doing, be more aware of what you're doing, and think of what the future is going to be. Do you want to have a healthy future or not? Yeah, that's really it, you know, and really start looking at yourself.   Roy Barker  50:00 Yeah. Alright. Jan, well, thanks a lot. Do you have a Is there a habit or a tool, something that you use in your daily life that really adds a lot of value that you think,   Jan  50:13 okay, I mean, certainly I always start my day off in a positive note, alright. That's why they call me the positively pink personal trainer. So really, what you want to do is, and my advice is achieve something every single day, it doesn't matter what it is, you know, clearing out a desk or clearing out a kitchen drawer. It doesn't have to be anything big, or even just making a decision to say, you know what, I'm going to start looking after myself. And you're going to say to yourself, Well, let's think of the solutions on how I can do that. Yeah,   Roy Barker  50:51 I love that we need to be nice to ourselves, too. Because just thinking to be kind, because I'm the worst. If I've got 10 things on my to do list, if I get seven done, I'll drag around being upset about these three. So you know, if you get up and you make these accomplishments, even if they're small, celebrate them. It's something that you've done, and you need to be happy, and it's motivating. I think it'll motivate Oh, yeah. Next thing?   Terry  51:17 Yeah, like that.   Roy Barker  51:18 Yeah. All right, Jen. So tell everybody who do you like to work with? How can you help them? And of course, how can they reach out and get a hold of you?   Jan  51:25 Well, I really I specialize in older women over the age of 50. Certainly, because that's because I am somebody over 50 that I have a rapport with these people. So that's the people I tend to tend to work with. They are certainly people who are overweight. Yeah. And they need to get fitter. That's the important thing. Yeah.   So really, probably the best, the best way to get ahold of me is if you go to my website, Jan Malloch.com. And you can see what I've got to offer and whatnot. And then obviously, you can contact me via email, or go on to Google and look up Jan Malloch. And you'll find my Facebook, my LinkedIn, my Twitter, my all my different connections. So connect with them as they are.   Roy Barker  52:07 Yeah. Okay, awesome. And that the spelling of that last name is m a l l o c h. Yeah, and we will include all that in the show notes, but just in case you're having them road and pull over and want to jot that down. Get over now   Terry  52:24 Don't cry.   Roy Barker  52:26 All right, well, thanks so much. We appreciate our listeners as well. Again, this is gonna do it for another episode of Feeding Fatty Im Roy. of course you can find us at www.feedingfatty.com We're on all the major podcast platforms iTunes, Stitcher, Google Spotify for not only one that she listened to please reach out we'd love to get it added make it easier for you to listen to us every week.   Also, we're on all the major social media platforms probably hang out a little bit more on Instagram than others. And a video of this interview will go up on YouTube when it gets goes live. So until next time, take care of yourself and take care of your health. Thank you Jan Malloch Website www.feedingfatty.com

Aktien Podcast mit dem Aktien Alpaka
Yandex Aktienanalyse - das Google, Spotify und Uber Russlands?

Aktien Podcast mit dem Aktien Alpaka

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 12, 2021 13:44


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Feeding Fatty
Embrace The Intuitive Energy Healing Powers All Around Us

Feeding Fatty

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 7, 2021 53:28


Embrace The Intuitive Energy Healing Powers All Around Us with Peyton Goldberg The intuitive healing energy that constantly flows around us is absolutely amazing. Breathing, really intentional breathing is also a powerful influence on our bodies, minds, emotions, and souls. The arts of Reiki and Yoga take advantage of many natural ancient healing sources of energy and breathing. The practices have been around many years and proved themselves over time. About Peyton Peyton Goldberg is a Reiki Master/Master Teacher, a Professional Member of the International Center for Reiki Training, a Texas State Licensed Massage Therapist and a 500+ hr registered yoga teacher.  Peyton works with the subtle human energy fields and pathways to aid her clients in their innate ability to heal on the physical, mental, emotional and spiritual levels. In addition to her Reiki and intuitive energy work offerings, Peyton provides holistic bodywork and meridian-based therapies including massage, cupping, acupressure and Auriculotherapy. When she's not working one-on-one with clients, Peyton is teaching (and practicing) yoga locally at The Studio in Fort Worth.  Connect with Peyton: www.oversoulfw.com peyton@oversoulfw.com IG: @oversoul.fw  www.feedingfatty.com   Full Transcript Below Embrace The Intuitive Energy Healing Powers All Around Us with Peyton Goldberg Tue, 6/29 6:10PM • 53:07 SUMMARY KEYWORDS reiki, people, energy, work, feel, yoga, day, started, reiki energy, practice, peyton, breathing, bit, body, reiki master, intuitive, mind, hands, training, clients SPEAKERS Terry, Peyton, Roy Barker   Roy Barker  00:08 Hello, and welcome to another episode of Feeding Fatty. This is Roy,   Terry  00:11 this is Terry.   Roy Barker  00:12 We are the podcast that's chronicling our journey through wellness. And, you know, as we talk a little bit about when we first started, we were kind of focused on diet, not a diet, but more or less what we're eating, exercise and just total balance with a lot of things. But we know we've really moved into the mindset realm because we've I think we found that no matter what route you seem to want to go, if you don't get your mindset, right, it's not going to be sustainable, and you probably won't have much success, you know, in the long run. So anyway, you know, on Tuesdays, we have our guests professionals in the field and then on Thursday, we have our little catch up with what's going on with us and we've kind of had a diabetic or diabetes focused the last few weeks just trying to struggle with that. So we're just trying to put some information out there not only get me back on track, but to help others as well. So but today, we have an awesome guest with us and Carrie I'm gonna let you introduce Payton,   Terry  01:15 Peyton Goldberg. She works with the subtle human energy fields and pathways to aid her clients in their innate ability to heal on the physical, mental, emotional and spiritual levels. In addition to her Reiki and intuitive energy work offerings, Peyton provides holistic bodywork and meridian based therapies including massage, cupping, acupressure, and ayurveda. feel you're gonna have to say that one. Therapy when she's not working one on one with clients payment is teaching and practicing yoga. locally at the studio in Fort Worth. She is a Reiki Master Master Teacher, a professional member of International Center for Reiki training, a Texas state licensed massage therapist and has 500 plus hours of registered yoga teacher teaching. Peyton, welcome to the show. We're happy to have you today. Thank you. I'm happy to be here.   Roy Barker  02:16 Yeah, we have a little bit of personal experience. Terry, I'll let you explain all.   Terry  02:21 I have known Peyton, she she and my daughter went to high school and graduated together. And they were they were two peas in a pod. And so I know her many ways. This, this is so cool to see where you have evolved to and how you got there. So let's talk a little bit about that. And how you found yourself in this position of training, Reiki and doing yoga and all that.   Peyton  02:58 Yeah, so it was kind of a roundabout path to get here. If you ask me 20 years ago, if I'd be doing this, I probably not believe you but me Are you about to say I'm sure you like yes. But how really all this came into my life. I mean, even as a child, I think I was always very interested in things that I deemed as magical. And you know, this may be the closest thing to magic we have in real life. And so, I was always interested in the far out and the esoteric and just, you know, the big questions of life, like why are we here? How does everything work and whatnot. And I think some of that curiosity had made me more open minded for the path that eventually came. But when I was in college, and just randomly out of nowhere, going into my sophomore year, I was super depressed, it came out of nowhere. just miserable kind of lost any will to live just very soon as suicidal, so anxious that I can barely leave my apartment. I was just really really miserable self medicating with drugs, alcohol, food, you name it. Just really truly my rock bottom I was prescribed a plethora of medications and kind of kind of went through the wringer with Western medicine and pharmaceutical culture. And just here's a pill for this. Here's a pill for that. And a symptom came with a pill. Here's another one and I was just a zombie for probably three years and just completely numb. My mom was super concerned and had I been closer to home. I went to school in Mississippi, she probably would have been a lot more concerned but that space probably didn't make it exactly as real as it was. But she was desperate looking for alternative ways to help me. She kind of stumbled upon upon Reiki energy medicine, vibrational medicine, law of attraction, all that kind of stuff and something clicked on. And I was able to just start utilizing these tools in my life then and it's just evolved from there. But I've been able to, you know, come off of all medications and get myself in a good place. Yeah, just a complete one at truly. And now I started offering it to other people, because if I could do it, anybody can,   Terry  05:23 you know, go ahead.   Roy Barker  05:25 No, I just said, that's, that's a great story. And I think that, you know, coming from a place of using it in the help that it gave you, then I think that even probably makes you a much better practitioner when you're trying to help other people.   Peyton  05:39 Yeah, I can really empathize. I've been there. I mean, I've felt horrible. And I know what it's like to feel that way. Yeah.   Terry  05:46 Yeah. And and have drugs thrown at you. I mean, I think so many people find themselves in that situation. And it's like, Okay, well, that one didn't work. Let me have another one. Well, that one doesn't work. Well, maybe you're you've got anxiety, maybe you know, all these other symptoms, from taking the medications come up. And it's just right. It's crazy. Totally.   Peyton  06:07 You know, not to say that medicine is not necessary in all cases, but there are just so many tools we have at our disposal to feel better without just masking symptoms. So to say.   Terry  06:20 Yeah, and, I mean, finding the root cause 100% and really going to help you become, you know, as close to 100% as you can possibly get. So true.   Roy Barker  06:33 No, and what I was going to be clear about here is that we we did not do the yoga or the other but we went through the   Terry  06:42 say at the Reiki Oh, no. I like when he says, Yeah, I want to hear it. Come on, Roy.   Roy Barker  06:50 Yo, yo, yo,   Peyton  06:51 said, how you say that? Okay, I hear people say it all different ways.   Roy Barker  06:56 She just laughs at me every time I have to say I love it. Like   Terry  07:00 he said the Ricky. I'm like,   07:03 I forgot about her. But Ricky so I guess if you don't mind?   Roy Barker  07:07 Can we just start kind of at the beginning to maybe. Cuz I mean, I'm I feel like I'm pretty progressive, but I've never heard of this before. And so maybe we could just kind of explain what the concept is to those that may not know what it is.   Peyton  07:25 Sure, absolutely. So Reiki is a light touch hands on energy healing technique originated in Japan. But a lot of people believe you know, this kind of laying on it while it did laying on hands energy work, you know, way predates any, or the Reiki system of healing, essentially. But basically, it works by getting the body into a parasympathetic state, which is the branch of our nervous system, which is our rest digest, where we can truly heal you know, the body is an incredible machine and given the right environment, we can heal ourselves. I truly believe that we are yet to tap into our full potential as humans and there's a lot we can do to heal on all levels, physical, mental, spiritual, and otherwise, basically, you know, we are all energetic beings, we are electric beings. And the energy is generated by the hands of the person attuned to Reiki and it gives off, I have articles of science behind it giving off the electric energy, electromagnetic energy, which a lot of Western medicine devices rely on now, for regenerating bones bringing organs up to healthy basically their their ideal healthy vibration, same idea with the hands of the energy healers. The hands create the vibration and through physical property or principles of resonance entrainment, it can bring the lower vibration or off energy up to an energy that is more primed for healing or the ideal vibration. So to say,   Terry  09:10 no, oh, go ahead.   Peyton  09:12 Oh, no, as I say, that's just my Reiki in a nutshell. But there's, there's a lot that will still learn a lot of people feel like, Oh, it's a placebo effect. But now we're starting to see more and more research that that's not the case, there is a measurable energy coming from the hands. And, you know, it's really neat. And I think we'll be seeing more and more of that as we move into the future.   Terry  09:36 So, so I know that you've had tons of training and everything, but also also has intuition has to do with it. I mean, do you feel like people are kind of chosen to do that to succeed at this energy? And   Peyton  09:53 yes, and no, I mean, intuition is definitely important when I'm working one on one with clients, but we're For everybody, even if you have no interest in working with clients or, you know, working one on one with people, I truly believe that this is a skill that everyone can't Well, they can for 100% learn it. And they should it's, you can use it. You know, when you're cooking, when you're reading, driving and traffic, calming anxiety. I mean, the list goes on and on and on, you can give it to your pets, your family yourself. Yeah, so if you I think being intuitive, and empathetic sure, that helps build rapport and, you know, can kind of feel what your client is feeling. And that's helpful. But outside of the practitioner level, it's for everybody, and everybody can be successful with it.   Terry  10:47 So can so can you walk us through what somebody would mean, if they came to you for a session? What just kind of a little bare bones of what's going on?   Peyton  10:59 Yeah, so every Reiki practitioner has their own different flair. And I think that's what's so cool about it. But typically, how a session would start with me is what have you come in and let you share with me what you want to share. If you some people come for a specific issue, you know, stress or physical ailment or an injury, we're trying to, you know, speed up the healing time on, but some people just come, you know, as we are energetic beings, and a lot of us are empathetic and spongy, you can feel when your energy is off, or when you're ungrounded. And just kind of, I call it an energetic tune up. So I'll check in and see what is going on what your goal is. And then after we chat a little bit, I'll get you on the table. It's fully closed. It's not a massage, a lot of people believe it or get confused and think it is massage. But it's not, it's just a gentle laying on of hands or hovering of hands, some gentle movements over the body. And it starts, I always like to start with three deep breaths, I'm a yoga teacher. So breath is important to me, helps get people in the zone, as long as there's no allergies, I like to use some essential oils, aromatically, just to kind of get the body into that state, and then starting at the head, eventually moving down to the feet. I'll start by scanning the body kind of feeling, feeling what I feel, essentially. And then I take an intuitive approach. So there are some Reiki practitioners who use the traditional hand sets, which you know, have been taught to anybody who studied Reiki but my Reiki Master, who taught me really encouraged us to use intuition and just kind of go, we're guided, so gentle, laying on of hands, and, and then I'll finish off at the feet, sometimes in Palo Santo, or instance, at the end. And then I like to use crystals and play with tuning forks. So there's a lot of things I incorporate just as, as guided basis. Go ahead.   Roy Barker  12:57 No, I'm just gonna say, you know, I'm gonna probably be a little vulnerable and share my experience, because it was fascinating to me, a couple, I mean, a lot of, you can kind of walk through it. But the first thing, while I love the incense and the music, and so we've started incorporating the music into our meditation time, which to me is very important. And I just, I don't know, there's something about the music that just really takes you away and lets you concentrate on nothing, you know, concentrate on yourself, your breathing, but I love that. So you started at my head, and you and my eyes were closed. So you can kind of guide me if I was wrong, but it's like you held an open palm over my forehead. Yep. And I will tell you the heat that came from that was not and I have to go back and let's let's kind of set the stage is that that Tuesday, I came on a Thursday night, the Tuesday prior to that I had a pretty rough day. Thursday, I had, you know, kind of like the Tuesday was the one two punch. And then Thursday was like the knockout. And I was just like, I mean, I was in such a place. And I'm like, I don't, you know, don't even really want to go, but I knew that I probably needed to go now more than ever. So I'll just say it was a bad couple of days. And anyway, the heat. I was just amazed at that. How I could feel it. I don't know. Could you feel it as much as I did?   Peyton  14:26 Oh, yeah. Reiki hands get really hot. A lot of people are surprised by that. But you know, heat is just a form of energy. And so sometimes it's hotter than others. Some parts of the body are hotter than others. So every time is a little bit different, but that is very normal. Yes.   Roy Barker  14:43 So then the other thing that was surprising is when you started working around me. I've had shoulder issues for you know, probably about the last 10 or 15 years. And, you know, some days hurts more than others. But it's funny because you went right to that show. holder, very first thing, which I just thought, you know, that was just a good example, I guess of the intuitiveness or however that you, you know, kind of work around that. Now, I don't know if that is that something that you could feel? Or were you just kind of led to go that direction?   Peyton  15:19 Sometimes it's both the information kind of just comes how it comes for a long time, I doubted that and we'd be like, I'm sure if it's just my mind. But time and time again, I have people tell me similar things to you that, Oh, well, you went to that knee and you know, that knees been bothering me or something like that. And yeah, so I don't really know how it comes through. Occasionally, I can feel it on my body. But most of the time, it's just like this. Like, what I consider a download of just knowing. And I think it's God telling me where to go personally. But everybody probably feels a little different. Who's a practitioner?   Roy Barker  15:57 Yeah. So the The other thing, I think, probably the biggest awakening from this to me was, you know, of course, I'd had this by a day. And at some point, I don't even remember at what point during this process, I mean, almost went into like, a catatonic state. I wasn't, I felt like you know, how you do when you're going to sleep. But you're still a little bit conscious of everything. But yet you're, you know, you're kind of having these weird dreams and weird thoughts. And so, you know, that's where I went to. And then it was like, all this energy rushed up from my legs in my stomach up into my chest. And it was like, my chest swelled up. And then, man, I remember it vividly. It was like, three words that kept coming to me were strength, wisdom, and patience, which is exactly what I needed at that point. But it was very, it was a kind of a surreal experience. When that all that started happening.   Peyton  17:01 Yeah, I remember you sharing about your experience. And it's always cool to hear about what comes up for people. What you described, I like to refer to as the Reiki coma, which, you know, maybe it's not the best, that's just what I call it, because that's what it feels like, even if you're having thoughts. The body is so relaxed. And yeah, it's just really interesting. And that's that parasympathetic shifts that that inner that this energy, this universal, lifeforce energy helps people get into and when you're in that state and kind of receptive, that's when those downloads of information that your higher self, I believe wants you to hear can be heard.   Roy Barker  17:42 Yeah. It's funny that the whole chest swelling, I took that to be like, confidence, like, you know, stand up, be strong, be firm. Just funny how it all work together.   Terry  17:55 I remember you came home and said, Oh, my God, I just felt like Superman. I just yeah. Yeah, yep. Right there.   Roy Barker  18:02 Yeah, exactly. And, you know, some of that, I think, is the strength part, too, you know, don't be the I took it like this, don't be a wilting flower is tough, but you got to stand up and be firm. And you know, you can still be empathetic and be nice, and be firm and stand up for yourself as well. And that's kind of where it took me through that. And then, but anyway, so that was all really awesome. And then I think the last thing that you talked about was intent. I can't remember which way it goes. If you were pulling energy down into my legs are pushing it up, but it was something about something about that.   Peyton  18:42 Yeah, I would have to go back and look at my notes from this session. But a lot of times, people either one way or the other, spend a lot more energy in the upper chakras. And if that's the case, and we pull some of the energy down and just ground them. Reiki can get you into that floaty state. So I always like to end with grounding. So if I had to bet I thought we were kind of pulling some of that energy down just kind of anchoring you back into the physical here and now space because it can be a little floaty. Yeah.   Terry  19:13 Do you remember which, Roy, do you remember which chakra he said that?   Roy Barker  19:19 Well, now that she mentioned it, I think that's what the deal was. I think I had everything up in my chest and stomach and I think she was pulling it down for the grounding but also something about the maybe the legs and traveling on a trip but just you know, the movement.   Peyton  19:35 I felt like I feel like I'm remembering something about your knees. Now granted, this was a little bit ago. So you know, memories not the best but I feel I definitely remember something with your legs. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, cuz   Terry  19:48 I remember when I remember when I came back, the throat chakra Of course. That's That's the one. explain about that. Yeah. So they're just the throat chakra shoppers in general, well, maybe just kind of the throat chakra, for sure. And then maybe just kind of a general, that's where you   Peyton  20:11 just like the highlight reel of what chakras are basically their energy centers of the body. Typically, when people reference them, they're talking about the seven major chakras that are aligned up from the base of the spine to the crown of the head. But there are also many other chakras, minor ones throughout the body and off the body in the auric. Field, the throat one in particular, it has a lot to do with boundaries, self expression, creativity, speaking our truth, speaking our true feelings and our emotions. So it's related to a lot of that kind of stuff. But you know, no, shocker is an island they are all interconnected. And yeah, so in the end, they ebb and flow. So if you have throat issues, that doesn't mean that the throats always gonna have stagnation or blockages. Energy is always moving. And same with same with us as energy beings. Right?   Terry  21:15 Oh, man. You know, I was going to ask you, have you opened this might digress a little bit. But at so can you recall, what was the strangest session that you've ever been involved in? Oh, gosh. I mean, just you in general, or with a client?   Peyton  21:36 Well, I've had some crazy energy work experiences me as the client and person on the table, which were pretty astounding, some people's intuitive skills are just incredible. I've a healer that I had gone to in the past. She's a very strong, medium, and psychic. And some of the things she could pick up on were incredible. This was right after my great grandmother died probably five or six years ago, and she was able to send her in the room with me. And that was pretty cool. I don't I mean, I guess I haven't had anything too weird happen. So I guess, you know, some people's experiences are weirder than others. But weird is subjective. And I just say that, for lack of a better word. They're all good. I mean, not weird in a bad way. But just you know. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I guess the level that I feel on my body when I'm working on certain people is interesting. Sometimes Sometimes I'll get so hot that like, my back is sweating, I get a sweat moustache, I can feel like the crown of my head just dripping. And usually That to me is indicative of this is some energy that we need to clear. And put that up. I mean, how do you take all of that from what you know from a session and not put it in, you do it on yourself. That's the beautiful thing about Reiki energy is it can do no harm. So there's tons of different forms of energy work. But energy or Reiki comes straight from God. So it's not my energy, I'm not channeling my own energy. And I'm just simply opening up and letting this energy flow through me into the person plants or thing I'm working on. And so No, I do not absorb anything. And I don't have to even really do much to you know, make sure that doesn't happen, of course, I mean, I wear some crystals on me. And I do give myself Reiki and I always ground myself and clear my energy after a session. But that's what sets Reiki apart from other styles of energy work, because it is not my energy, I am just a channel for it. That's, that's the beauty of Reiki, when people are working from their own energy, that's when things can get complicated and pick up things you don't want and vice versa. Have that exchange, you know, passing the practice practitioner stuff on to a client as well.   Roy Barker  24:08 Yeah, I was just interested. I mean, you kind of mentioned that you get a little bit hot and sweaty sometimes, but what are other feelings that you get, you know, when you're working on an end? Do you go into that? That Reiki coma as well? Or do you stay and that sounds kind of odd to be like that, I don't know if you can go into that.   Peyton  24:31 Yeah, I'm definitely in a very meditative state. So and the cool thing about giving Reiki is you get it while you give it so even times like you described me were like, I kind of don't want to go to the session. Even if I feel that way after I'm like, oh, man, I feel so much better. So I give his or I receive as I give. I feel oftentimes I feel tingling. I feel kind of buzzing pulsation, I always get this weird sensation in one of my bottom teeth. Like, it's really weird and I don't know what it means I have no I literally have no idea but sometimes when the Reiki is really flowing, I get this sensation in my second tooth over. And it's it's strange.   Terry  25:14 That's strange.   Peyton  25:15 Yeah, I know. I wish someone could tell me more about that. Because I'm not so sure. But um, that's, that's a weird thing I feel sometimes. And then I see I see things, I see colors. I see colors most often working on different parts of the body. And that's become kind of common for me, but heat tingles, pulsation, and then that to thing are some of my most common sensations.   Roy Barker  25:46 Do you? Do you keep your eyes open? Or do you close your eyes?   Peyton  25:50 I'm close, probably 90% of the time. When I'm transitioning to a new body part I opened my eyes that I'm less distracted and can stay in the zone better with my eyes, for sure.   Roy Barker  26:03 Because like me, you know, my first time and I think you have to the one thing I guess I would preface all of this by saying is you have to go with an open mind. Because for sure, I'm assuming that if all you're going to do is prove somebody wrong, you will be able to prove them wrong because you are, you know, found the person is in control with their mind. So you have in like myself, I went in with a very open mind. But when once I got on the table, I just close my eyes and really tried to focus on breathing. So I was kind of meditative state. Not only calming down from the day, from the day, but also put myself in a better place to, I guess help you help me.   Peyton  26:49 Right in I tell you I even people that are super, super skeptical after having a Reiki experience, like they get it afterward. Like it took my dad five years of begging him to try it like giving him giving him sessions for his birthday and Father's Day and Christmas and every single opportunity and he's very, like, type a logical very, like I need proof. But anyway, now he sees me almost every month for a Reiki session. So I granted most people that come and see me are pretty open minded. I don't if you're if you find me you you're probably a little more spiritual minded. But yeah, even people in my experience who have been rather skeptical, like once they feel it, they get it.   Roy Barker  27:44 So what do you feel like afterwards because when I came home, I was just totally drained. I had no energy. And it wasn't a bad thing. But it was like my mind. My mind had been cleared and reset. And then of course, I just felt that little draining feeling in my body as well.   Peyton  28:02 Right? People feel a number of different ways, kind of depending on what got cleared what needed to happen in the session. Some people feel like amped up and feel kind of riding high on the Reiki waves and then some people also feel really tired, lethargic, really thirsty energy word can be sneaky dehydrating. So it's always good to really rehydrate. I always feel pretty good. I mean, at the end of the day, if I have a bunch of Reiki sessions, I'll be tired for sure. But it gets me lifted. It feels. Yeah, I love working with it. Now massage, on the other hand makes me pretty tired. But   Terry  28:43 like that, I mean, I felt like I had just had a massage but not mean I didn't want to go to sleep. But I right. I felt very relaxed and very rested.   Peyton  28:54 Yes, you're just kind of in a very peaceful state. Most people are when they leave for sure. Yeah.   Roy Barker  29:01 The other thing for people that may not live worse, if they live in the Fort Worth Dallas area, they need to check anybody else out, they just need to come see you. Let's just say if somebody is living somewhere else, how how would you choose the right person? Because it's kind of I guess there's got to be some kind of connection as well. Correct?   Peyton  29:23 Yeah, I think that that's really important. For any like one on one connection, whether you're working with a doctor, chiropractor, whatever it is, you want to feel an energetic resonance with that person. So a lot of time, you know, hopefully you can get a referral from someone but if not, it may just be a little trial and trial and error going in meeting with them and it's always good to see if they'd be willing to like chat with you before the session just so you can get a feel. Because Yeah, I definitely think that's important.   Terry  29:57 I'm sorry, yeah, and uranium are they looking for Yeah, so   Peyton  30:01 I mean, there are so many different Reiki schools, lineages, traditions. So I would make sure that someone actually is certified because Reiki is not something you can learn out of a book or learn on YouTube. You can, you know, repeat the steps, but you're not getting plugged into that same true energy and you're falling more in the category of self energy work versus channeling that Reiki energy. So you want to have trained from a real Reiki Master Teacher, you want to have someone who has received the attunements. And how I explained the attunements. It's basically like, think of yourself as a radio. And sure, you can get white noise, you can get that static. But once you turn the dial and land on a station, that's when the good stuff comes through. So kind of the same with Reiki, when you go through your training, you are given a two minutes basically connecting you with Reiki energy for life. And once you're dialed in, you can channel that directly without any ego or you know, personal stuff getting in the mix, if that makes sense. Yeah, so those are things those are things I would look for the International Center of Reiki training website. ict.org, is where I found my Reiki Master back in the day, because I wanted something that was vetted, and I wanted to make sure I was learning from someone who knew what they what they were doing, for sure. But there's, there's that's not the only one. So I mean, just a little research due diligence, make sure they have credentials, and yeah, and then just your vibe, I mean, you want to make sure you can connect with somebody. So chat with them go see, um, you know,   Terry  31:54 yeah,   Roy Barker  31:55 I think Terry talked a little bit about this, but this more in depth. So even if there's somebody that says, I really am into I'm a, I guess I'm I enjoy getting the Reiki. And so now I want to be one I want to help others. But is there kind of like a, the intuitive part like some people just have it and then some people can work and work and work and never get dialed in? Or is it something that with practice, you can finally get yourself there?   Peyton  32:26 I think everybody is innately very, very intuitive, and connected with an inner knowing is just through all of our conditioning and you know, brainwashing through society. And you know, the education system. Don't get me started. But, you know, I think we've become out of touch with that. And I think that there's a lot of agendas that have, you know, separated us from this innate knowing connection with source connection with our higher selves. But I do believe everybody is intuitive. People just don't realize they are. But yeah, like everything it's a practice is just, the more you use Reiki, the more it gets, works on you and through you, the more your energy shifts, he I mean, you will, for me, it was just the most transformational thing to invite into my life. I from where I was, when I first did my first Reiki class, to where I am now I just don't even recognize that person. So I think you do. The more you connect with that energy, the more you you'll see changes for sure. So I do think intuition can be developed deeper, but it's always there if that makes sense. Yeah,   Roy Barker  33:37 yeah. You can kind of it's all its underlying. Use it for good. Yes. Yes, definitely.   Terry  33:45 Peyton How many? How many years? Have you been doing it? Um,   Peyton  33:50 so yeah, I've been doing working with people one on one since 2017. And then I've been doing it full time since last year. I always kind of just did it kind of had like a day job and did Reiki on the side. Along with teaching. I always taught yoga too. But yeah, so for four or five going on for five years now. Yeah. And then I started teaching teaching Reiki this last year. So that's a newer endeavor, but I knew from my first Reiki level one training that I took as a student, I knew that was something I wanted to do at some point because the world needs more Reiki practitioners.   Terry  34:36 Have you gone or have you gone to get training?   Peyton  34:40 So the woman I trained under my Reiki Master, her name is Karen Harrison, and she's based out of Missouri, Kansas City, and she travels around to some of the neighboring states. I think she does trainings in Texas, maybe Arkansas and a couple other ones and Anyway, she she was coming to Dallas and I found her and looked at her website and even just looking through someone's website, you can kind of tell if there is a resonance, you know, like, you know, anyways, I felt I felt good about her and I just took that leap. And I trained with her all the way through level one level two advanced Reiki training Reiki Master. Yep. So she I always caught her when she came through to Dallas.   Roy Barker  35:24 Is it a group training or individual one on one?   Peyton  35:27 Yeah, so you can catch them both ways. Some teachers offer one on ones. But most of time, it's in small groups. Usually the groups aren't anything crazy big. Because you know, as the teacher, you want to be able to give everybody good attention and answer all the questions. And when the group is too big, it's kind of hard to make it a special experience for everybody.   Terry  35:48 And how did how, how did lockdown affect you? Because, you know, it's a hands on thing. So how do it through? Through? Oh,   Peyton  35:57 yeah, well, you can do energy work distant, you know, energy transcends time and space. So when you look at quantum entanglement, you know, we are all interconnected on the most basic levels. So energy can get anywhere very quickly. And a lot of that through intention. So, distance is a thing. I never stopped. I could, I felt that it was really important to continue seeing people then more than ever, and I, I wasn't particularly afraid. I felt protected. I felt, I felt that it was part of my purpose to continue seeing people and helping them through this time. Because as you know, we all know, mentally, physically, emotionally, this was heavy in, in my mind, this was the most important time to keep up with yourself in those in those realms. Yeah, if we had, unless you have anything else, Terry, can we transition to yoga for just a minute?   Terry  36:58 Yeah, of course. Yeah. I love yoga.   Roy Barker  37:02 No, I just, you know, I think that, to me, I think all this is related. And I think yoga, but I'm assuming I got I'll put this as a question that it's a pretty good sister to the Reiki. Is that correct?   Peyton  37:15 Oh, yes. 100%. Um, I actually did my yoga training, because I wrote my first teacher training because I thought it would be a good tool to use with my Reiki clients, I wanted to be able to give them some physical movements and postures to help the flow of energy. Because Yoga is just an excellent tool, the mind and body are so intrinsically connected in, we have lost that connection. And there's so much wisdom from the body. And when we can reestablish and rewire to really feel again. Yeah, and yoga is one of the most successful ways to start that rewiring.   Roy Barker  37:59 The one thing that I've done it a little bit off and on over the years, but the one thing I kind of get out of it is the breathing. And I don't know that we know that. The layman understands how important breathing is to us. For you know, stress for a lot of things, you know, make, you know, when you get put in that position, you know, there's some but some people say like, step back, take three deep breaths. And then there's people like me that are very shallow breathers, typically, and I mean, to the point of other people have noticed, and you know, I've told this a few times, I used to be in a martial arts and, you know, I would have my Sensei, he, when he would be walking by, he'd be like, take a breath. It's alright, fall out here. And it's also happened in a painting class, you know, the lady was doing her thing. And I guess I was all I wasn't tense, but just concentrating and not breathing. And so anyway, after a couple instances like that, I hung on sign over my desk. And that was one thing I wrote on it was breathe. And people would always laugh and say, you got to tell yourself to breathe. No, but to deep those deep breaths that help us   Peyton  39:09 to breathe correctly. And that's the thing you know, probably I would say, 98% of people day today, do not breathe correctly, whether it's shallow or through the mouth, or whatever the problem may be. We're just swallowing air essentially. breath is so important, because breath regulates all the systems of the body. It's our major form of detoxification. Really, it is the key to everything when you can breathe properly. I personally believe very little disease can exist. Yeah, and pranayama or breath work is an ancient practice. You know, cultures, from the beginning of time have been practicing different breathing tricks, techniques, navy seals, practice it to stay calm. So there really is something to it, and yeah, it's been one of the best things for me personally to have the yoga practice because I was very asthmatic growing up, I had a chronic pneumonia. You were hospitalized for it, you know, more times than I can count on a hand. And ever since I really started practicing yoga, no issues with that anymore. No anxiety, or I mean occasionally, like with situational things, like the first day of doing something, whatever, a little jitter. But night and day, it just so much healing came from just learning to breathe better. And being mindful of it. I mean, we're not going to breathe perfect all the time that you catch it kind of like your sign. So that's, that's important.   Roy Barker  40:41 Yeah. And just a message to those that feel, you know, sometimes we see people on TV that do yoga, and they do the crazy stuff. And we're like, oh, my gosh, I could never do stuff. But you know, I think the message and I'll let you expound on it is that there are modifications to all movies. And so there is something for everybody in the yoga realm.   Peyton  41:05 True. And I mean, more than anything else, people people do associate, you know, the Instagram yoga aesthetic, like someone has a foot over here behind their head or whatever. And, you know, that's cool. It's, you know, mind body connection. And there's nothing wrong with that. There's nothing wrong with doing handstands or anything. But truly Yoga is paying attention in breathing. And there's a whole I mean, true, like yoga is more of a practice of a lifestyle. You know, I can recommend several good books about the yamas and niyamas. And, yeah, it's really just adopting a lifestyle, all the kind of postures came later on, and that a lot of that has become very westernized. But true yoga, I always tell new students because it is intimidating coming to a yoga class. I was too. I was an at home Yogi for a long time. I was scared to go to a class. But if you were paying attention in trying your best to you know, just notice breathing, and breathe a little slower, a little more purposeful. You are doing amazing yoga. That's the most important thing to remember. Even if you can't get out of a chair or bend over. It doesn't matter who you you can still do amazing yoga.   Terry  42:19 Yeah. And I felt I mean, that's that's kind of meat. You were just speaking to me because I stayed away from it thinking that I couldn't do everything due to contortionist moves or whatever. And totally, you know, you can't just put something into a box and not go go there. And you've got to be curious. You have to be curious. You can do it. Anybody can do it. I said that you're gonna hold me to it. Yeah,   Peyton  42:43 I know I am. I'm gonna make you come. But that's the thing too. And you also just got to find a studio that really vibes with you. Not all studios are the same. And you'll find the one that resonates with you teaching style that resonates with you. And yeah, I think sometimes you just gotta gotta shop around and experience some, but I will say the studio it job, which is called the studio, it's here in Fort Worth, not far from kind of main South Side area, it's over on Jennings. We are all very mindful teachers and try to accommodate everyone. We offer modifications, we often tell people, you know, feel free to ignore us, we really are big advocates of you listening to your body and doing what serves you because at the end of the day, we all may be in the same ish shape, but it is a completely different feeling and experience. So you know, that's it. And we were all really big proponents of that.   Roy Barker  43:39 I think the other thing is that yoga people are using very chill and encouraging that you got to remember, you're not going to middle school gym where you're gonna be taunted or made fun of or, you know, get away or anything like that.   Terry  43:55 Yeah. Yeah, give you   Peyton  44:00 know, um, and I totally get that no, everybody, I it was my biggest fear going to studio that like, oh, people are gonna be watching me and I'm gonna be messing up. But as soon as you go to one class, you realize no one is paying attention to you. Everybody is in the zone on their mat. And that is one of my favorite things about going to the practice. It's just an hour for me, I can just tune out of my day, whatever kind of day I had drop into my body, my sensations, my breath, and not think about anything for an hour.   Roy Barker  44:32 Yeah. And then, I think kind of going hand in hand with this. And I know we're running a little bit long. But the meditation and again, there's things that we can do and I guess we started meditating in conjunction with this, but you know, you see the, the statues and the kind of caricature is on the cartoons about the people you know, they sit and hold their hands out like this. Which when I first started, you know, I was like, I'm not doing the stereotype, I'm just, you know, you're gonna soak it all in. But it's, it's strange because right around them. When I came to see you, I think it was a little after that I started doing that, because I actually felt like it was a way to receive, you know, good, the good energy is to bring that in and kind of like, I hate to say but like a, like an antenna where you can capture that.   Peyton  45:29 Totally, I mean, the different hand motions are called mudras. And they are a part of, you know, ancient yogic teachings. And that is exactly what they are. They're supposed to align you with different energies, whether it's something invigorating, something calming, you know, different elements, what have you. But yeah, I think the most important thing for people to remember with meditation is that you can't turn the mind off, the mind thinks like the heartbeats. The point is not to clear your mind. The point is to not follow those thoughts down the rabbit hole. So I had a teacher tell me once before that, even if you have to bring yourself back into the present moment, a million times, just do that compassionately. That is what it's about, it's not about, you know, or even just like, a minute of mindfulness sitting there can be more profound than 30 minutes, you know, it doesn't have to be this laboris thing that kind of is a pain in the ass to even want to take on, you know, yeah, many, many moments of mindfulness,   Roy Barker  46:32 I typically do about 10 minutes, which is easy. You know, I was having this discussion with a guy the other day. And he was just saying, like, I can't get my mind to stop. And I'm like, but that's the point is you're working on it. And I said, like me, there are days that I'm all over the place, and, but I stick with it. Because on average, I can finally work myself into, and I just, I've tried to focus on my breathing, you know, and that's also a time for me to, to have my gratitude to do all the things that I'm thankful for all the things that, you know, I think Terry read this somewhere about asking for things to come in our life, instead of instead of looking at your neighbor and say, Oh, they got a new car, why don't I have one? It's like, sir, you say what?   Terry  47:19 Praise? You praise them? Just, you know, Oh, I'm so thankful that they've gotten that maybe show me some of that. Please, may I have some of that, hey, there's so much abundance in this world, that there's enough for everybody.   Peyton  47:35 And a mindset of not thinking in terms of lack in thinking or in terms of gratitude is super powerful. So   Roy Barker  47:44 yeah, I'm right there with you. To kind of goes with you know, staying in our own lane, we, you know, kind of like we talked about the yoga. Other people really aren't paying attention to us in life, we need to stay in our own lane, do our own thing on our own race, however you wanna say it's,   Peyton  48:00 yeah, all we can do is work on ourselves. Unfortunately, we can't change people. So   Roy Barker  48:04 you know. Yeah. And there's a couple things that you know, those that, what is it those that care don't mind and those that mind, don't care, something, something like that. So, it's always good just to focus on ourselves what we can do. And, again, I it's a fine line, we can't criticize and be beat ourselves up. But you know, my position is that, even if I have a good day, or am a good, do good today, you can always do better, you know, and try to strive to just be something a little bit better every day, they'll small steps over time. Add a huge,   Peyton  48:40 totally just singing competition with yourself only.   Terry  48:43 Yeah.   Roy Barker  48:46 Well, well. Like I said, I know we're running late. So Terry, unless you've got anything else. We'll try to wrap this up real quick. Yeah, either one of y'all have anything else that you want to know.   Peyton  48:56 Thank you for inviting me onto your podcast. This   Terry  48:58 is nice to finally oh my gosh, it took like,   Roy Barker  49:03 yeah, so tell us dessert? Well, I mean, you've got a lot like Jason and the yoga and but is there something else that you may use every day or something that you do you feel adds a lot of value to your life. Um,   Peyton  49:19 maybe this came through all my practices, you know, the Reiki, the yoga, whatnot, but I just tried to practice radical self awareness. You know, we're human, at the end of the day, we're never going to be infallible creatures, we're never going to be perfect. But I think just learning to recognize those shadow parts of yourself as well as those light parts of yourself and you know, not judging them, not attaching to them. But just recognizing and becoming aware, is the most important tool that we can practice. And I think just noticing what you notice, I say that a lot in yoga, but yeah, I think that that's probably what I use the most every single day. Yeah, just paying attention, noticing without judgment and not being too hard on yourself giving yourself lots of compassion, we're never gonna be perfect. Why try? It's just a waste of time.   Terry  50:12 Designed here. So for sure, be kind   Peyton  50:14 to yourself, people are so mean to themselves, we're our worst.   Terry  50:18 You know, we're bad. If we can be horrible, you can count on me a beat and myself, you know? Definitely. But, you know, we're just, we're just humans.   Roy Barker  50:30 Well, I think, you know, again, if, if everybody would just open their mind up, and just try to take it all in, I think we would be probably be nicer to each other as well, instead of having this seems like a lot of pent up hostility is, you know, let's figure out something to take that away. We should be nice. Perform acts of kindness for other people random, you don't have to expect something back. But do it.   Terry  50:57 Don't get Yeah. Yeah.   Peyton  51:00 When we're nice to ourselves, it's easier to be nicer to other people and not project on them, when we can recognize the parts of ourselves that aren't so wonderful, you know, we can be more compassionate to when we experience those not so wonderful sides of other people. And I mean, that's a practice in and of itself. And I think that that's the most important practice, and it's hard. And, you know, every day is a little different. We all get triggered, but um, yeah, I definitely agree.   Roy Barker  51:25 All right, Peyton, thank you so much for taking time to be with us. I know you've got a lot going on. So tell us where they can reach out to you for the Yeah, so my or for the yoga?   Peyton  51:38 Yeah, so my website is www.oversoulfw.com. You can find me on instagram at oversoul.fw. And then the studio I teach at is called The Studio in Fort Worth, Texas. It's on Jennings. I teach Mondays, Wednesdays Thursdays and Fridays. And yeah, all of our teachers are awesome. So come see us. And yeah, if anyone is interested in Reiki trainings, my next one is this August, the 14th and the 21st for level one and two. So yeah, those are the best ways to get in touch.   Roy Barker  52:15 All right.   Terry  52:16 Well,   Roy Barker  52:16 y'all reach out I know Peyton can help you get on the right track with one of the many practices and it's worth it. Like I said, go in with an open mind. You'll be surprised what you'll get out of it. Yeah. All right. that's gonna do it for another episode of feeding fatty Of course. I am your host, Roy. And you can find us at ww.feedingfatty.com. We're all on all the major podcast platforms, iTunes, Stitcher, Google Spotify. We're also on all the major social media platforms probably hang out on Instagram a little bit more than others. A video of this conversation won't go up on YouTube once the episode goes live. So if there's anything we can do to help anybody get you in the right place, please let us know. We'll be glad to do what we can. So until next time, take care of yourself and take care of your health. Connect with Peyton: www.oversoulfw.com peyton@oversoulfw.com IG: @oversoul.fw  www.feedingfatty.com

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Feeding Fatty
Running To The Beat of His Own Drums and Pulling Them 100 Miles Behind Him

Feeding Fatty

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 24, 2021 48:19


Running To The Beat of His Own Drums and Pulling Them 100 Miles Behind Him with Bob Thomas What started out as a joke ended up being a walk or charity. Can you even imagine walking 100 miles? Now visualize walking those 100 miles towing a drum kit on a trailer. This is exactly what professional drummer Bob Thomas set out to do. About Bob I'm Bob, a 23-year-old full-time drummer who also loves ultra-endurance. I'm an Ironman Wales finisher and have become obsessed with ultra running. I have come up with a challenge to combine music and running which is to run a 100-mile ultramarathon towing my drum kit, I will then set it up and play a gig with my band directly after the run. Donation page: virginmoneygiving.com/100miledrumkittow Instagram: @bobthomasdrums Facebook: bob thomas drums YouTube: Bob Thomas www.feedingfaty.com Full Transcript Below Running To The Beat of His Own Drums and Pulling Them 100 Miles Behind Him with Bob Thomas Sun, 6/27 11:31AM • 47:59 SUMMARY KEYWORDS drum kit, running, gig, drummer, people, training, bit, trailer, miles, started, eat, minutes, good, iron man, play, couple, marathon, hill, music, problem SPEAKERS Bob, Terry, Roy Barker Roy Barker  00:10 Hello, and welcome to another episode of Feeding Fatty This is Roy.   Terry  00:14 Terry.   Roy Barker  00:14 So we're podcasts that journaling or chronicling our journey through wellness. And no, we've begun to figure out at first we talked a lot about diet, not being on a diet, but just you know what we eat, consume, exercise, but we've made a, you know, we've also kind of shifted into that mindset realm that we have to, you know, be able to change our mindset to to make sustainable changes. And so on Tuesdays, we usually release an episode with the guest either a professional in the industry, or somebody telling us their story. And then on Thursdays, we release more of a personal episode. And we've been talking a lot about diabetes. That's one thing I struggle with, keep in mind under control. So anyway, I want to thank you for being a listener. And if you're new Welcome to the show. And we've got a great guest today. This has been exciting. We've been waiting a couple of weeks to get Bob on here. So Terry, I'll let you introduce Bob.   Terry  01:11 Bob Thomas is a 23 year old ultra runner and professional drummer from West Wales. He's been playing drums since the age of seven, and performing full time at 17. All over the UK. He started his fitness journey in early 2018, when he ran his first marathon and progressed to an Iron Man in 2019. After the lockdown hit in 2020, he saw it as an opportunity to push his limits further and is training to take on 100 miles while towing his drum kit behind him. Bob, thank you so much for joining us. Welcome to the show.   Bob  01:49 Pleasure to be here. Thank you for having me.   Roy Barker  01:51 Yeah, and you're quite the you're quite the contrast. Because typically, you know, we think of musicians and drummers, they they live kind of an ultimate lifestyle up on that. And then, you know, probably, I would say not the best, you know, they're surrounded by probably a lot of liquor, a lot of good food. And a lot of Yeah, so it's like, it's just, it's an interesting concept. So kind of tell us a little bit, you know, about what kind of music that you play first, you know, how you got into music into the band. And then tell us a little bit of you know, about your focus on fitness.   Bob  02:29 Yeah, it's funny you say about that. That's, that's a lot of the reason why I ended up getting into fitness is because I was like out most nights playing gigs, and then having to drive home drive horrendous miles and just eating the worst fast food all the time. And that's where the fitness really came from. But yeah, so I started from a really young age plan. And I learned through school, basically. And I used to get a 15 minute lesson once a week, and then sort of give me a book and say, right, go and go practice, come back. And that progressed up and and then just decided it was sort of what I wanted to do. So I went to bed. Basically, when I was 16. I left school, and did a little bit of work helping out my parents and sort of thought, right, okay, well, let's try and make something of music. And there's like the local city to me is Cardiff, which is about two hours away. And I sort of just went up there on the site, right, let's try and meet some musicians. So I sort of put my head around once this in venues and sort of try to be friendly with some guitarist and bass players and things and eventually just sort of gotten a couple of bands and started playing and then yeah, just just kept progressing, which which is good fun. And it got Yeah, yeah, very good to the point of playing multiple nights a week or so doing lots of teaching. You can see behind me that there's this kicks up that they should be one there. But I had a gig last night so that that was gone. He sat in my car at the moment. So yeah, it was great. And then just just lots of gigs all over the place and learn to read music. So I play for, like theater shows and things. So I didn't get booked for sort of like four to six weeks on, like small theaters or around the UK, where we do sort of like three to five days in a in a venue just multiple shows. But again, it's just it's lots of it's always it's always very intense in a very short amount of time. So usually like my Monday to Thursday is usually fairly quiet. But then it's sort of like Thursday night it's like right okay, well let's pack up the gear and get ready to go then Friday I'm off and it's Friday night gig Saturday to gigs, Sunday to gigs and then hope   Terry  04:47 to be tired. Well as a as a drummer, you don't have a choice. You have to be fit if you want to be successful as a drummer. So I'm sure   Bob  04:57 yeah, just just to get your drum kit from the cost The venue.   Roy Barker  05:02 And, you know, when when we go to concerts a lot, you know, like more smaller venues, especially outdoors and stuff. It's like, you know, you see the guitar guy, he puts his guitar, in his case, and, you know, he walks away. And the bass says the same thing. And, you know, there's this poor drummer back there. He's got this whole big old drum kit, you know, he's trying to move on and offline. So I know I'm always thinking the same thing. I just played the flute that actually   Terry  05:33 led to having stuff. You asked for it, you got it.   Roy Barker  05:36 So tell us about this challenge where you're gonna, you're gonna is it 100 kilometers, and you're gonna tow your drum kit behind you.   Bob  05:44 gnosis is 100 miles, 100 miles. Okay. I think that's about 180 kilometers.   Roy Barker  05:49 Okay. Okay.   Bob  05:51 That's a that's a best guess. But yeah, so it all it was a bit of a weird joke at the start. And because I live right on the west coast of Wales, and it's very rural, I live in political Pembrokeshire. And there's, there's like, there's more cows and people down here. So for me to go, like all my work, I have to basically go to the closest place I can do it is a city called swanzey, which is about sort of an hour and a half drive away, but more of it is done in Cardiff, which is about two hours just over. So I spend a lot of my time driving, but Cardiff is basically exactly 100 miles from my house. So that's where the majority of my gigs up. So when we hit lockdown, obviously, at the start, everyone thought it was going to be like two, three weeks. And I've done quite a bit of training then because about three or four months before that I've done my first Ironman, so relatively fit, close point. And I said to my mate, who's also a drummer, I said, I think I might train, loads of running really focused. And then when I when gigs, come back, I'll get someone I was thinking, like, I'll get my parents to take my drum get to the gig or something. And I'll run and, and then I'll do the gig and it's about 100 miles a bit like it'd be an ultramarathon, so it'd be great. And he sat there and listened to me say all that and he just went, yeah, but it doesn't really count unless you tow the drum kit. And my stupid brain went that's a brilliant idea. He's off the Christmas list now. Yeah. He's, uh, yeah, he is, is a good friend, but also a bad friend.   Terry  07:37 Well, you're actually gonna be calling I mean, you're actually gonna be telling it yourself. Your body. Yeah, yeah. So I, I am the horse to the car. Yeah,   Bob  07:47 it's a bit a bit mad. So it was kind of it was it was great. And it was like, I had no way I could actually do that. Like that would be, it'd be mental. So the first thing I do is start googling. Like, Has anyone done something like this? And there's been a few people who have like pulled cars from marathons and things like that, that looks pretty brutal. And I was like, Okay, well, no one's no one's really done this. So, so what I do, and then the the extra condition is that I that the challenge isn't finished when I end the run, because I have also hired my band to come to the end of the run and play a gig with me. So run 100 mile with the drum kit, then set it up, then play an hour's gig with them, and then set it down. And then and then I don't know, I'll probably just meet face down   Terry  08:36 in the grass leap, or at least two weeks after that. Yeah, I hope so.   Roy Barker  08:42 Are you going to push through and do like the 100? all at the same time? Are you going to like take a couple breaks in between?   Bob  08:49 Yes, the plan is to do it. Pretty much all as one. So I allowing myself 48 hours to do it. Wow. And that's gonna involve I'm, I've got a, I've got a crew of five guys coming along to help me and they're gonna have a couple of cars and beat leapfrogging and there's a couple of spots where they have to sit behind me with a hazard zone. Because some of the roads quite quick. So I'm yeah, the idea is I start at 8pm on Thursday, the 22nd of July. And the idea is to go all the way through that night. And then when I get to the morning, I'll probably have a bit of a break for breakfast. But when I say a break, I mean less than less than 30 minutes. Yeah. Ideally, if we can keep all the breaks under 20 minutes, that would be great. We're pretty much just going to like, like plot all the labels on the way and I'll just keep stopping and then there'll be other things I need to do. Like, I need to change shoes at some point because my feet will swell. Probably change clothes. I imagine I'll need a change of clothes for night running than I will day running. Because of the heat difference, because we're we're in summer here, and not the world's as the hottest country in the world, but it can get slightly warm. And when I say slightly, I mean, not not very, but enough. So yeah, I'll probably have to get changed and things like that. And then I talked to a few people who've done like, really setting challenges like this before. A friend of mine, she did 200 miles recently. And it took her about 51 hours. And she said on on day two, she had to stop and she slept for 15 minutes. And in Canada. So I look forward to my 15 minute nap on days.   Terry  10:42 Well, and how do you even start to figure out how to train for that? I mean, what's your what's your typical day as far as your training going?   Bob  10:50 Yeah, but yeah, that that's, that's a, that's a weird one. Because it started off with just increasing the miles running. Which came to a point where I was running sort of like, like eight or nine hours a day. And then it just just get I'm just trying to get as many miles as possible. And then it got to the point where I got the trailer. And that that was weird, because the difficult thing with trailers is very hilly around here. So one is heavy and getting it up the hill is awful. But then the other problem is getting it down the hill. ilmi. And it's, it's, it's quite scary. Because when I first did it, I was like, Oh, well, we I got a friend to help out. And he got a break on it. And I was like, yeah, that's a really good idea. So we got this break that was on a rope. And the idea was like a rubber rubber on the hand pulled the brake should be absolutely fine. Well, we didn't take into account is actually, when I get to a steep hill, I have to really pull the brake. I took the first hill that I went down, and I got to the end of it. And I looked at my hand and it was like completely blew off circulation with the rope. I'd like to rope across my hand. I was like that was one Hill. Yeah, so I run because I'm on my last like training block now. Which is which basically involves me every other day running as many miles as I can trailer. So I did a marathon with it on Wednesday, just gone. And that took about eight hours to do. Which was which was fun. And it's just lots of hills. And I'm training with like twice the amount of Hill. So I'm, I cover 80 feet of climbing per mile on my training runs. But when I do the actual run, I only cover 50 feet of climbing per mile. Okay, I'm training a little bit harder than what it will actually be. But I'm not training the same distance because I just want to recover. That's the that's the thing I found hardest is trying to get enough training in, but also recover afterwards. And then and nutrition and things like that it's really hard because I track calories. And it's funny because some days I need to track calories to make sure I don't eat too much. But then other days, I have to track calories to make sure eight is enough. Because I think on Wednesday I burned an extra like 7000 calories or something is like well I don't know how to eat that   Terry  13:42 much. It's many calories Do you need how many calories are trying to strive for   Bob  13:48 so so it's really weird. So when when I'm when I'm moving I can I can basically take on about 160 calories an hour without feeling unwell. Because it's quite a common thing because because when you run your body sends more blood to your muscles and your extremities and it takes it away from some of your normal so your digestive system doesn't work as efficiently. So if you take on too many calories, you can end up being sick, which is a bit of a problem. And it's not nice being sick when you're running. I have accidentally so I have to limit the amount but then afterwards like I sort of got this calorie deficit of like a few 1000 calories and I'm like well I could I could eat a bowl of ice cream and still have cash to spare   Terry  14:46 as trying to join in here.   Roy Barker  14:50 Man I wish I could wish I had that problem of having to try to eat and write that in before we get too far long I was gonna at your do it or isn't there Charity component involved in this as well.   Bob  15:03 Yes, there is. So yeah, so this was where the idea really sort of came to life is because he was like, right, it's a great idea. But like, what was the point in doing it? So yeah, I am, I decided to do it for cardiac risk in the young, which are a really good charity here. And they basically they they set up and they do screening and research into undiagnosed heart conditions, okay? Because it can be found in in young people between ages of 14 and 34. And they can have a heart condition that's completely undiagnosed, no symptoms whatsoever, and unfortunately, just suddenly dropped out. It can be really awful there was we've got a competition in in football over here going on with the euros at the moment. And there was a player, I think he's from Denmark. But he about I think it was about 20 minutes into the game just dropped, dropped on the field. And fortunately, he recovered. And they, they got into hospital, and he's fine. But that was a cardiac problem. And it's really strange, because it doesn't really matter how fit people seem to be. It can really affect them. Unfortunately, we lost my my older sister. And she was 16 at the time, but she played hot ball, hot ball hockey, and netball. That's the mix, apparently hot ball. So he actually played netball and hockey to a really high standard, and was always used to run track and things. And they are unfortunately, where she had a heart condition that we didn't know about no symptoms whatsoever. Gosh,   Roy Barker  16:42 that's terrible. So do you.   Terry  16:43 So do you because of that? Do you get screened annually? How does?   Bob  16:50 Yes, so so i i don't get screened annually. So I have I have been screened, and they they believe it's hereditary. And they've looked into cases in my family. And they believe it's only the women that are affected in my family interests. Other I've had a look into that. And and how I know that I don't specifically know, but it's all through the screening that they do. And they work a lot with schools over here. So they'll they'll go into schools, and they'll screen an entire year of school and figure out and they can they can give pacemakers. I know that there was a girl in a school near me. And she was screened. And they found that she had something and they they did an operation she had had a pacemaker button on the heart. And she had to I think she had to keep it for about two years. And then they got removed, and she was absolutely fine. And yeah,   Roy Barker  17:47 yeah, and we have seen that here too. You know, athletes football is our, you know, American football, and then you know, some in basketball to that. Yeah, younger kids that are you would think in perfect health, because they're so athletic. And then, you know, it's unfortunate, they have this underlying condition. So, you know, we're definitely, you know, express our sorrow for your family's loss, for sure. But I think it's really great that you're stepping up and doing this. And the reality is just so many people don't know about it. So the awareness is a good component as well.   Bob  18:22 Yeah, I think massively it and that's the things but when it's someone that of that age that's so young, it affects so many people around them, because, right, if there's some if it affects someone who's sort of under the age of 18, they've probably got brothers and sisters and effects their family and all their school friends. I know that my sister's friends. for them. It was horrendous, because they had a friend who was there there one day, and then the next school and they're like, hold on. Where's where Sarah, while actually not in school today? Yeah. And yeah, it's horrific.   Terry  18:55 And you were How old? were you when you lost your sister?   Bob  18:59 I was 11 at the time. Wow. Five years younger than Oh, well,   Roy Barker  19:05 we appreciate you sharing that with us. I know. That's a you know, it's very personal. But thanks for thanks for sharing, I think it makes a big difference to, you know, get that message out that it can be devastating. It is devastating to the families that happens to you. But then, like you said, At that age, it affects people around them. And then if they're young, it's like a lifelong thing that they have to deal with. So,   Terry  19:30 and the fact that they're so young, you know, you just don't know, at any age, what's going to happen, anything can creep up, but the fact that they're younger, and this happens, you know, doesn't mean it's not gonna   Roy Barker  19:43 end their screening. That's the other thing. I don't know how preventable but if people were more aware of it, get the screening probably could avoid. Avoid a lot of the unnecessary deaths as well.   Bob  19:55 Yeah, a lot. A lot of it can can be avoided through through things like pacemakers. and things like that. And if they if they do find them earlier, and I don't I don't even think they have to find super early, I think as long as it's found some, that's all they need, and then they can they can actively work against it.   Roy Barker  20:15 Well, so let's get back to so you, what made you make this decision to be healthy to be the healthy drummer? I mean, because like we said, it's very contrary, did you just, you know, just I guess, feeling bad, or you just saw the path that you're on, you know, doing eating the fast food on the way home from a bad I have to be going down?   Bob  20:40 Yeah, it was, um, it was a case of, so I'm I'm asthmatic. And I've always had like, like, fairly Bad, bad asthma, but it isn't, it's not terrible. I remember doing a couple of gigs where I had to carry the kit in, and sort of like carry half the kit, and then almost be having an asthma attack, taking it in and just being like, this is terrible. But on the scale of things, my asthma is not that you can have way worse asthma. I just remember thinking at this one gig, I think we have to carry it up a flight of stairs to get to the stage. And I carried about two pieces my drum kit up and it wasn't even the heaviest bit. I got to the top. I was sweating. And I was like hearing, like, I couldn't breathe. And I was like, I think this might be a problem. If I want to carry on doing this, and I can't keep up this lifestyle. Right. And so yeah, so the idea was like, right, okay, well, let's, let's start doing a little bit of running. So this was back in early 2018. It must have been awful February, started doing a little bit of running wasn't very good. didn't really enjoy it. But sort of kept going. And then I mentioned to my my girlfriend at the time, I was like, I think I might I might train for a marathon. I think it was just a really off the cuff sort of said it didn't really mean it. Yeah. And I think about 10 minutes later, she went, Oh, there's one in six weeks, I've signed you up.   Roy Barker  22:20 Yeah, that's the second time now you've got yourself in trouble you have built in a little better.   Bob  22:26 Yeah, I know. I should just keep my mouth shut. So. So I went and did that marathon and hated it. But what what I remember mainly from America is I ran the first 16 miles. And then basically fell off a cliff just felt horrendous walked had my head in the sand, like just did not want to be there at all. And then I got to the end, and then about 200 meters from the end, all the crowds go. And I was like sprinting, I was absolute for like full out as fast as I could run. I don't think I've ever run that fast before in my life. And finish the race and then fell around this again. But but it's saying in me then when I did that was like, hold on, like, an hour ago. I wanted to quit give up and I felt awful. And I thought I couldn't even run 10 seconds ago, I was sprinting full pelt, what, what's going on? And then I sort of realized that actually a lot of mental, right? So it was like, Okay, and then all my training just just sort of went straight off. After that marathon, there was nothing really to look forward to. And it was kind of like right back to back to work. And it started going back the other way again, and I was like, Oh no, this isn't good. I need to sign up for something. And my dad had started doing iron that where I realized sake of I thought we're a bit we're a bit just stupid. We just say we're going to do things and then end up doing them. So because of that, so that year my dad signed up to do an iron man. And he, he just like he just spoke to me one day, I think he spoke to me and my brother and he was like, I've signed this deal and I'm on a really like, Okay. She know what it is? And he was like, yeah, it's like a triathlon, we like, is a really hard track. He was like, yeah, it's fine. We're like dead, you can't even run. And he's like, yeah, we fine. He had when he signed up, he had an issue with his knee where he had injured it, like a couple years before and hadn't been able to run as well. And it was really struggling and but somehow he fixed it gotten through it and he's done like for now. So, so the I because my training was completely in a slump and I was like, right I need something to look forward to. I was like, Okay, well, I am man it is. So I decided to sign up and day one So then in 2019, I did an Iron Man, which is really good. And for 2019, for me, music wise was probably the year that we're it really took off quite quite well. So I was doing a lot more around the UK traveling a lot further. We were sort of breaking into, like north and south of England, which is much more populated areas than Wales. So we're doing a lot better. But then the journeys they're getting up to sort of we're traveling sort of eight hours, to places.   Roy Barker  25:33 So let me just say for the record back what you said that there is no easy Iron Man or triathalon. person as you are your red was like that question like, yeah, there is no, there is no Yeah, yeah, this is gonna be an easy one here.   Bob  25:51 Yes, yeah. It's a little bit different to the local and stamp London, the leisure centre. It's like 10 laps of the pole and a quick jog around the block. But yeah, yeah. So like, my, my work got massively increased. So I didn't really have much time to train. So I ended up sort of scraping through the Iron Man and completing, I sort of did it but I wasn't very happy with my time because I The training was not not wonderful. So I entered again, for 2020. And that's when I really started with it. And so I sort of, I had a couple of mates at the time. And I was like, right, I know, this makes one's a lot. So he's really good at that, I'm going to start swim with him, and my other mate runs a lot and start running with him. And I really sort of, like changed a lot of my focus to go fully into into the fitness and my, my idea was that if I could do Ironman in under 12 hours, I'd be really happy. So I was had, like, straight into that as much as I could. And then that's when lockdown happened. So that's when this sort of idea of like, right, well, now I've got a big opportunity. Like, at the time, I thought, right, I've got four to six weeks now where I can go mad training. And then but I've done just carried on forever and ever and ever. And and so that second I'm on I still haven't done. I'm Fingers crossed should be doing it this September. But But yeah, but that sort of leads us to where we are now. Because that's when that conversation happened about running with the drum kit. And then it was like, right, well, yeah, let's do that. And I, it all got invented. Because I was I thought it was a great idea. And I sort of looked into it a bit and figured out and thought, yeah, I think I can do this. So I made a video saying that I was going to do it and put it on Facebook. And that was the point where I could not go back because that video got about 5000 views in the day. Everyone I knew. And people had already people were donating money. And I hadn't even set up the donation page. I had people just sending me money. I raised like 200 pounds in like, a day. And I was like, Wait, hold on, I've got to do this. I was like there's no Undo button so that I'm well and truly in. So that it was a scramble to set up like a donation page. And that was it. Once I put that video out, it was like, Okay, I am I am fully committed. And then it was just trying to figure out a date and the idea. At the time, I was like, Okay, well, I definitely need to do it next year. So 2021 because I don't think if it was just running 100 miles, I said just running 100 miles is silly. But if Yeah, if I was only running 100 miles without turning the drum kit, I probably could have done it towards the end of last year. But we've turned the drunk yet. It was like right, no, that's that's probably I probably bitten off more than I can chew here. So I'm gonna make sure that this takes a long time until after dinner. So yeah, the idea was to do it in August this year. And then as things started lining up, we were looking at dates and night, the weekend of the 24th of July. This was like the perfect weekend. Right again, that book in and go for it. And then I had to figure out how to tow the trailer. And I had to get a trailer made and all of that and that was great fun and a bit mad cuz I'm phoning up companies who sell trailers and be like, do you have any that are built for running? Like, Oh, no, no,   Roy Barker  29:35 we don't really. It's not really a thing. Okay. Even if you you know, get one like, people run you know, when they have kids and stuff that's smaller. I mean, that's the other challenge is getting something big enough to hold the whole drum kit.   Bob  29:53 That was the thing. So that was I got offers from people of saying like, Oh, well I've got like a baby running thing. Um, I was like, Okay. Like, yeah, I was like it by any chance. Did you have triplets? really helpful? Unfortunately, they didn't. So yeah, I can, I can use it. But yeah, that's the problem because the drum kit is annoyingly shaped and really bulky. And even with packing it down to the smallest I can possibly get it, I still have to have it on like a flatbed trailer, which itself is really heavy and cumbersome and annoying. I haven't sworn at it.   Roy Barker  30:33 When you brought up a good point, I guess when we first started talking, I was thinking about you know, it's gonna be the challenge is getting up the hill, but I never actually thought about once you start down the hill that, you know, that trailer is gonna want to try to run over you if you don't have a pretty good braking system in place.   Bob  30:50 Yeah, the trailer is coming from my head on is   Terry  30:55 like a cartoon, you know, just a flat near right out. I mean, I think about Frankie, or one of our dogs dragging us down a hill that we have on the side of the house where we take him outside. And I mean, she does she is strong. And she pulls me down that I can't even oh my gosh, I can't even imagine that part of it. But I you know, I just it that is something that you posted on Facebook and accountability really can be such a factor. Yeah, peer pressure is the worst, isn't it really it is that in the mindset, and then all the support that you have from your, from your community, your friends, your family, all of that is, is awesome.   Bob  31:41 Yeah, that's being massive, because alongside everyone watching and donating, I also just got like, hundreds of messages from people being like, Oh, I can help with this. And I can do this. And I'm still getting them today. I got a message like I think yesterday from my mate Connor. And he was like, oh, God didn't want to do anything like filming or anything. Because like, I've got a camera and I can do this. And I'm like, Oh, yeah, those great. People are just so helpful, but it is amazing.   Roy Barker  32:06 So what how is the challenge? You know? And I think that's awesome that you put it out there because that's what they always say is, you know, if you have goals in your mind, it's one thing but once you speak them to somebody else that you know you become accountable. But the other part of this is that the difficulty even if you want to do this the difficulty of your situation of being around, you know, the things that aren't as healthy for you to consume. And then I'm sure your bandmates are like, Hey, why don't you come out, you know, come have a drink with us or I don't know what you know, y'all favorite junk food is but over here be like, Hey, we need to go get some nachos and beer after this gig. And, you know, how do you how do you handle that? And how supportive are they of you and your efforts? Not necessarily for the challenge but just for the daily being healthy.   Bob  33:00 I actually incredibly supportive because I I think a lot of it actually with the the eating and beer bad because we don't necessarily get the situation that often. Well, we all stay around and have like a beer after a gig. unfortunate because it's so much traveling. It's always like, Oh, I work but I've got a drive. So like and it's like you can't you never really get the situation where you can stay afterwards. But the problem was is mainly just actually myself and overcoming the big shiny by the side of the motorway. right for you are in an order and enough food to feed a family of thought.   Roy Barker  33:48 Like a magnet. Especially when and I'm the worst so I can attest to that is driving. I just feel like I always have to have something to eat or drink and it's like hard to go by the drive thru without popping in and getting something so I mean, it's a challenge. Yeah, it's just boring, isn't it? Yeah. So what have you have you done anything to make to help yourself to drive past it without making that exit?   Bob  34:16 To try and try take a different route? That's what Yeah, how ice cream machine doesn't work. Yeah, I mean, the one thing that's massively been is that I haven't actually been able to work because of COVID Yeah, so I've I've not been going to the gigs. A lot of my work has been I've been doing much more teaching and things like that, which is from home and over Skype, and things like this. So it's been lots of online so I've actually been making my own food. And when you're training a lot, the the food you eat and how you feel makes a massive difference, because I'm I'm sure you know when you go to McDonald's and you eat loads, and then you get up the next morning. You feel horrendous. Yeah. And but it's even worse when you do that. And then you've got a run 20 miles the next day. Because then you feel like doubly horrendous. So you quite quickly get into the headspace of like, Oh, actually, yeah, I need to sort of do that do this right. And I think I think even even before I said all the fitness stuff, I don't think it was necessarily my bandmates, or a bad influence. I think, especially the way we do things where we're not so much the rock and roll lifestyle musicians, we're very much that sort of quiet, go in and get the job done. Might have a Yeah, have a chat with people and then come home and sit with it, sit on your feet up and get get as early night as you can. So I haven't really had massive bad influences, which is quite good, other than my own sort of bad influence of just genuinely not being able to beat my cravings.   Terry  36:05 I think we all think about, you know, in the 60s and 70s, well, 60s 70s 80s, you know, just our music, our music, the rock and roll and all you know, we just think of that lifestyle, they're all they're all out there drinking out all hours, I have all these dates, dates, you know, all that stuff. So it's, it's, it's very refreshing to see that   Roy Barker  36:29 I could think of this group that I was listening to a song interviewers listened to one with the group. And they were kind of like, you know, it's kind of like their, their nine to five, just in a different time slot. But they were like, you know, they became big in popularity, and they were opening for some other bigger groups, and the other groups were like, Hey, come on, we're gonna go, you know, party and do this or like, and, you know, it's time for us to go home. And so they were that way as well. They just like, you know, we never really got into the life, we just, you know, we did our GIG and then we went home. And yeah, that everybody else.   Bob  37:03 I think some of it comes with, it depends how big the band gets. If you if you get a lot of money. And you're doing really well out of it, I think, yeah, there's it that lends itself to it as well. But sometimes it's like, like I've especially early on, I think that's probably where it's at. Because, early on, I was doing gigs where I would barely make any money by just doing lots and lots and lots of them. So you're sort of thinking you go like, Oh, yeah, well, I could have like a couple of beers afterwards with some of the crowd. But certainly, if you spend 20 pound on on beer afterwards, and then you take in your fuel, and then you eat and big McDonald's, suddenly, you spent your entire paycheck. Can you laugh? I don't have any money. I think yeah, I think I think when I first started, I probably felt like the first like two months, I was like, terrible, had no money. And then I was like, Oh, I can't get this gig because I can't put any fuel in my car. I should sort this out.   Terry  37:59 You learned quick. I mean, it takes some people a lifetime to figure that out.   Bob  38:04 Yeah, and, and also, just where I live sort of lends itself because I play it when I'm playing card, if I've got one band where three of the members live in Cardiff. So they they can like walk to the gig. So it typically takes them like 10 minutes to get there. So they they can have a drink of things and walk home. And it's really easy for them and a lot of their friends around there. Whereas for me, it's always that situation of like, right to if we finish up, sort of like 11 o'clock. We've then got 45 minutes to pack down and get out. We have a 15 minute chat, say goodbye. And then I get home and then I've got to drive. I still got two hour drive. So I don't get home till two in the morning still. So then if I stay around for drinks and food then it's like suddenly like I'm getting hungry. like four in the morning. Yeah. And yeah, so and especially if it's on a Sunday I want to I want to get get back to work to watch football.   Roy Barker  38:56 Yeah. So already on the on the actual running part. Have you just done all of this on your own? Or have you been working with the trainer to kind of help get you up to you know, even prior to the to the trailer pool thing?   Bob  39:12 were you working with somebody. So before the tradable i the only thing I was working with as I was working with a swimming coach because for me swimming is one of my strong suits. I swung from very early on from I think probably about age six, I think I started swimming and always quite enjoyed it. So I was working with a swimming coach quite a lot. But as far as running and cycling goes not not really a lot of there's a really good community down here because so I live in Pembrokeshire and as a political attendee here, and that is where one of the Ironmen takes place. So there is an Ironman in Tennessee, which is about 30 minutes from me. So there's a massive community of triathletes down here. So a lot of it is we all just sort of like keep night by In each of these training plans and talk to each other, so mainly everything I've learned is through that. And then for the run all of my training I've done myself and I have a good friend who's a physio. And I pretty much text him every other day like this hurts. Why should I do? He'll text me back and you'd be like, it's fine. It's meant to hurt. Just go   Terry  40:26 read some dirt and   Roy Barker  40:29 everything I was noticing. Looks like you have a 40 Niners hat and jacket though. Are you big American football fan?   Bob  40:35 Yeah, I'm a huge Forty Niners fan. And so when they do like the international games over here, I've got a season ticket. I'm sorry. I've seen many teams over here. And I watch every game live. Absolutely love it. Very good. Good.   Roy Barker  40:51 Well, we would be remiss if we didn't ask you a couple questions about who your favorite some of your favorite drummers are.   Bob  40:59 Yeah, of course. Yeah. So old all time favorite drummers Jeff Porcaro from so so because he's, he's insane. And he's played on so much stuff from like, like Steely Dan stuff. And yeah, he's he's based. Big fan of Tom from news. So he's a news from from Devon, which is not too far from here. And it's like, well, actually, as, as the crow flies, it's really close. It's like 4050 miles, but just over the water. So they're there by their massive modern UK band that are really good. And then I play in a tribute band for those. So I've had to really commit a lot of time to learning all of his parts and playing very accurately, so I have a massive appreciation for him. Yeah, he's amazing. And then I've got narrow people down, that's really hard. Yeah, there's a drummer called Danny Carey from the band tool. And they're just like, all over the place, really complex rhythms and things like that. They do horrible odd times images and stuff. And it's very complex. And, and redneck and a lot of it's like, it's the way the scrub music is. It's like spiraling, which is really, really, really weird. But it's this very sort of like, psychedelic. And the I love that sort of stuff.   Roy Barker  42:25 Yeah, remember when the guess when the multitrack or eight tracks or whatever came out? That's when everybody would be like, you know, all the sound in one speaker and then it would move and then if they were really good, they could just make it swirl around the whole car like that?   Bob  42:40 Yeah, yeah, they did nice. Like the the Queen thing on Bohemian Rhapsody where they found the vocal. Right, and then it's the middle. Yeah.   Roy Barker  42:48 Well, Bob, we appreciate you taking time out of your day to talk with us. It's an awesome story, I think it's a great cause that you're working toward, and we need to follow up. So we're going to get you on our calendar, we'll give you a day or two to you know, probably rest up from that, but maybe a little longer, maybe, and maybe an August weekend, they get you back on and you can give us a report of how it went. And of course, I'm sure that they're going to be video ographers they're taking the pictures and video. So please send us all that stuff. So we can not only post it, but you know, we really want to keep up with you and see how this goes. Yes, well, very, that's amazing. Thank you very much a bird   Terry  43:28 like oh my gosh, sending positive vibes to you will live vicariously through you.   Roy Barker  43:35 So what is a tool or a habit, something that you do every day, that really adds a lot of value to your life.   Bob  43:44 Or that is that is very good one I think from for me, it's it's probably sort of taking the taking time to do something, but I I really enjoy. So often this is usually very much around music. So for me, it's not just it's not just drums because I play a bit of guitar and piano. So every day I try to sort of dedicate a little bit of time, just even if it's like 10 minutes to just go and like write this, this, I'm just going to focus on this and just really enjoy it and not worry about anything else. And it's sort of just I guess it's kind of a bit of a meditation thing. But I find a lot, it helps with things like procrastination, because I find a lot of time when you're doing something like hard work or something. And you're just thinking like, oh my, I could be doing this other thing. And I want to be doing that. If just early on in the day early in the morning, before you go off to work, you just do something that you really enjoy. You sort of just get out of yourself a little bit so that you can go right out. I've done some I've really enjoyed today and now I'm going to go focus. Cool.   Roy Barker  44:50 Yeah, that's good advice. Yeah, we need to get out and and do that we need to sometimes we forget to stop and you know, have some enjoyment out of our day. So let's go Awesome. God, I just got to thinking we just our concerts just got opened back up here this year and we our first one that's coming to town that we're gonna see is a Clapton is coming. So we're excited about that. Oh, cool. Oh, when when's that?   Terry  45:17 It's September, mid September, and I've got a really good LA to   Bob  45:23 be really good. venue. Oh, that'd be cool. I was meant to see Joe Bonamassa recently. But I got cancelled unfortunate, I'm really hoping it's going to be put back on set.   Terry  45:36 I know, I'm so ready to do it just be in a live music format. I just do.   Roy Barker  45:44 And that's why you were you know, that's another reason that we were so interested in talking to you because music is a big part of both of our lives. And, you know, since I'm, you know, right up until the pandemic, you know, we probably went to, you know, concert every month or so, maybe not, you know, a lot of buyers are the old guys that you know, they   Terry  46:02 Al Green Yeah, the temptations,   Roy Barker  46:05 you know, we're trying to trying to see them before they all pass away. boys got the attributes that   Terry  46:15 we even had tickets to the Rolling Stones, and I've never seen them before. They were supposed to come a year ago, and maybe they still haven't announced anything unless you know something. Some inside scoop. We don't but   Bob  46:28 no, no, by no. Unfortunately, just being British doesn't mean you get out of shame. It would be such a great privilege if it was   Roy Barker  46:40 the other one that one of our last ones we went to were the I don't know if you've heard of the Stone Temple Pilots, Eric. Oh, yeah. Eric Kretz. Yep. Amazing drummer. If you haven't ever checked him out, check him out really good.   Bob  46:53 Yeah, well, yeah, I know a little bit of their stuff, but not not in depth. But yeah, I've   Roy Barker  46:57 heard some good stuff. All right. Well, we could talk music for the next couple hours, but we don't let you go. Thank you. Were so gracious for the time you've given us and like I said, really keep up. We want to. We want to see how even if you want to send us some training stuff as you're working through the week, some pictures of the trailer, and just anything you want to send us. And we'll be sure to get it out there for Yeah, brilliant. Well, thank you very much. Hey, you bet. All right, that's gonna do it for another episode of feeding fatty. I'm your host Roy.   Terry  47:27 I'm Terry Bob. Thank you so much   Roy Barker  47:29 of course you can find us at www.feedingfatty.com we're on all the major podcast platforms. iTunes, Stitcher, Google Spotify, if we're not on one that you listened to reach out we'd be glad to get it added. You can also find us on all the major social media platforms typically, probably Instagram is where we hang out a little bit more. A video of this interview will go up when the episode goes live. So until next time, take care of yourself and take care of your health. Donation page: virginmoneygiving.com/100miledrumkittow Instagram: @bobthomasdrums Facebook: bob thomas drums YouTube: Bob Thomas www.feedingfatty.com

From The Cheap Seats
UFOs: Unrelenting Freaking Obstruction

From The Cheap Seats

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 23, 2021 60:50


The 3rd episode of our new pod "Scandal Sheet" -- Do you think you know about UFO's? Well you don't. After a flurry of eye-opening leaked videos - recorded by professional naval/air force aviators - triggers a Congressionally-demanded report from the Director of National Intelligence, we still know nothing more than we did before. What are these objects that defy conventionally understood physics? Top secret US experiments? Cutting edge aircraft tests by the Russians, the Chinese, or other countries? Or… advanced intelligent life from outside our solar system? We deep dive into the US's 75 year fascination and addiction with UFO's. Please find and follow us us on podbean: https://scandalsheet.podbean.com/e/ufos-unrelenting-freaking-obstruction/ or your favorite pod player, Apple, Google Spotify, etc. Contact us at contact@scandalsheetpod.com.

Feeding Fatty
Body Image Can Be Deceptive, Thin Doesn't Always Equate To Being Healthy

Feeding Fatty

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 17, 2021 54:20


Body Image Can Be Deceptive, Thin Doesn't Always Equate To Being Healthy With Sandy Rodriquez In today's society, we equate thin with healthy and overweight with unhealthy. There is so much more to really knowing who is healthy, but social media and other advertisers continue to propagate this lie. We shouldn't allow other people to define our health and our happiness. Let your doctor determine your health and you your happiness. About Sandy Bilingual communications expert Sandy Rodriguez writes on topics ranging from finance to entertainment for different media outlets in both the U.S. and Mexico. She is the author of a book titled Choose to Prevail, which inspired an upcoming video interview series. Sandy is a former editorial coordinator for Mexican newspaper Reforma, one of the most influential publications in Latin America, and has translated tens of books from English to Spanish for major publishing houses. These include medical, self-help, and business books, novels, and titles focused on spirituality or personal growth by popular authors such as Louise Hay, Nick Vujicic, and Neale Donald Walsch. Multifaceted Sandy, who once took part in a prestigious fellowship program for international journalists at Seoul National University in South Korea, currently lives in Los Angeles, where she works as a certified court interpreter. She is a fitness enthusiast, burgeoning artist, and amateur winemaker. Choose to Prevail Book (@choosetoprevail) • Instagram photos and videos www.feedingfatty.com Full Transcript Below Body Image Can Be Deceptive, Thin Doesn't Always Equate To Being Healthy with Sandy Rodriquez Sat, 6/26 11:21AM • 54:00 SUMMARY KEYWORDS people, eat, feel, book, healthy, sandy, weight, shape, person, life, exercise, body, mentioning, day, thinking, age, overweight, gym, friends, point SPEAKERS Terry, Sandy, Roy Barker   Roy Barker  00:00 Hello, and welcome to another episode of Feeding Fatty. I'm your host, Roy.   Terry  00:03 I'm Terry.   Roy Barker  00:11 So we are a podcast that we are chronicling our journey through health. that encompasses a lot of things. It's our diet not being on a diet, but it's our diet of what we consume, as well as exercise mindset. Trying to center ourself and meditation, all of this combined really helps to make us a better us we think. And so we're working really hard to make some changes to try to get on a better plane. A lot of times we Chronicle you know what's going on in our life this week. And we also have professionals and guests that are experts in different areas that come on to try to help us with this and be a good reference and resource for you and today is no different. Terry, I'll let you introduce Sandy.   Terry  00:57 Sandy Rodriguez is a bilingual communications expert writing on topics ranging from finance to entertainment for different media outlets in both the US and Mexico. She is the author of a book titled choose to prevail, which inspired an upcoming videos interview series, which I just finished, by the way. And Sandy is a former editorial coordinator for the Mexican newspaper reforma, one of the most influential publications in Latin America and has translated 10s of books from English to Spanish for major publishing houses. multifaceted Sandy who wants to put in a prestigious fellowship program for international journalists, Sol Yun National University in South Korea currently lives in LA where she works as a certified court interpreter. She's a fitness enthusiast, burgeoning artists and amateur winemakers. Sandy, welcome to the show.   Sandy  01:55 Thank you so much for having me over tyrian. Enjoy, it's wonderful to be here with you as much like yourself, I'm very interested in staying healthy and making positive health changes in my life at   Roy Barker  02:07 all times. Yeah, and it's funny, because once we started down this road, I think, you know, at the beginning, we were focused on what we ate and exercise and but I think as we've gone through this journey, it's like, we've kind of shifted the mindset because you just really have to get your mind right, in order to make changes, sustainable changes, you know, we can change for a day or two or for a meal or two, but trying to make bigger, sustainable changes that will last the rest of your life. It's difficult, very difficult. And I'm not just going to tell you I've I've had to Terry has been reporting as she's reading your book, for the last couple days, she's like, Oh, my gosh, you should hear this easier what Sandy had to say in that book. So I haven't had a chance to look at it. But Terry said that it's awesome. So thank you for sharing that with us.   Sandy  02:59 Thank you so much for I am very happy that the charity has been liking the book. One of the things that I mentioned in the book, and I think might be interesting to your audience, is that we really cannot let our body image or our own body love be defined by other people. If anything, here's the thing, I've noticed that body shapes come into vogue, and they fall out of fashion much like clothing does. So know what your body type, what's your bone structure, what your overall complexion is, like, sooner or later, it will come into fashion. I for example, struggled a lot when I was a little girl and even a teenager because my body type was not popular at the time. I'm a person with a trim upper body, a small waist and curvy or lower body. And that was not popular at all. However, it's very funny to me that now that is the body type that a lot of people are striving for. So I guess it's just a matter of weeding it out. I think it's something that's that's actually pretty funny. I even read that Benjamin Franklin's body tight was popular during his lifespan. Who would have thought so it's really a matter of just waiting it out.   Terry  04:22 Right? Yeah. And I can totally relate because, you know, parish parish shape. I have always been pear shaped. Is that what you? Is that what you considered yourself as well? I think so. I believe so. Yes. Yeah. Yeah, I just, I mean, forever. And now holy cow and people are getting implants and you know all of that. I don't I don't understand.   Sandy  04:47 Let me tell you as an author, I know and an acquaintance of mine. She is a bodybuilder and over the last couple of years, she's made a small fortune by art. training people to specifically grow their glutes. Now, to me that's like, seriously, I mean, I spent all my childhood and my early teen years trying to do the exact opposite. I clearly remember reading in a women's magazine when I was, I don't know, maybe 12, that you should sit on a hardened wooden floor, you know, with your legs crossed and rock side to side for an hour or two a day while watching TV. And that should have flattened you're behind. And that was what people were striving for. Now. Crazy, right? So you never know what's going to be popular. And I was made to feel like I was fat back in the day because of having that body type. Looking back at pictures, and just remembering what I was eating, and my actual body weight. Of course, I was not fat, I was certainly not overweight, by any, you know, by any doctor's charge or anything of the sort. But my peers and even adults made me feel fat. Because of that I even remember a couple of incidents where my friends moms would actually, you know, give me a little talking to and say, No, no, no, you need to cut back on calories. Because when you grow up, you don't want to, to look fat in an attractive and that was quite damaging, personally, what kind of an adult approaches a young child to give their two cents about the child's appearance. And secondly, now looking back, I was never overweight, it was just a body type that people didn't, let's say, understand or appreciate back in the day.   Roy Barker  06:40 It's harder for women I know, you know, to ignore the great advice people give you but also to, you know, to be that body conscious. But you know, as long as you're healthy, you got good blood pressure, your sugars are good, you know, whatever the other markers that your physician says, you know, we should be okay with that. And, you know, we just, again, it's hard. It's hard for anybody, but you know, we just have to stay in our own lane, run our own race and say, Look, I am what I am. And what is it the old saying that the people, people that people that care don't mind, and people that mind, don't care, something like that. I don't remember how that goes. But basically, it's, you know, the people that are closest to us are going to understand, and they're not going to be rude. But the people that are rude, you know, we just have to nevermind them. And the other thing, it's kind of timely, that there was an old, it was a meme that was going around not long ago, of a pattern. And this was probably in the late 50s, early 60s. But the pattern for sewing was actually called chubby girl patterns. And you know, in this day and time, I just had to step back for a minute and say, Oh, my gosh, can you imagine that somebody was actually advertising their product as chubby girl products.   Sandy  08:01 Very funny. It's really interesting. Right now, body positivity, at least, let's say publicly, it's a it's a big deal. A lot of companies are choosing to feature, you know, models that are a little bit on the chubbier side. But here's the thing, I do feel that there's a bit of a downside to that, in that I feel that a lot of companies, it's almost like they're just paying lip service to what is trendy right now that which is a pipe positivity movement. But I do feel that it doesn't really serve people well to actually believe that the world will treat you exactly the same if you're, if you're clearly out of shape, because that's not the case. And it would be very disappointing to be tremendously out of shape and go out into the world and go to beaches and Golden's to social situations and go into dating, and go into job interviews and just assume that yes, the world is very positive now, and I will be getting these fabulous reactions. My weight is a non issue. That's not really the case. And I know that to be a fact, because I'm, well, I mean, it's not only something that I can see for myself, but I experienced it up to a certain degree. I've always been a person that has been very much weight conscious and finger conscious and I've even fallen into near anorexia at certain times in my life. But when I was pregnant, I decided to just set all of those concerns aside and just eat help healthfully. But to be honest, I went a little bit overboard. I didn't really eat healthfully, I went above and beyond. I mean, certainly I ate for two but not for two normal people, but for two people with a sweet tooth and with a penchant for grilled cheese sandwiches. So in reality I did put on a lot of weight. I would say that up My my little boy was born, I still had a lot left to ship. And I knew that it was going to be something temporary, because I'm a person that knows how to, you know, lose weight when it's needed. So I knew it was a temporary thing. But I would say that over the course of maybe a year, I was really very much overweight. And in fact, you can well pregnant, because I put on so much weight, I did not look like this beautiful, lovable, pregnant woman that everybody wants to hug and help out. In fact, I would say that I looked more like an overweight lady. And the reactions I got from people, let me tell you, they were not at all body positive at all. So it was a bit of a social experiment, and that I actually got to feel and experience what life might be like if that were your permanent situation. Let me tell you, there is no real body positivity going on, as far as I can tell. So I mean, it's all well and good that companies want to, you know, open their, their brands to to more consumers and maybe offer different sizes. But it's really, I think, a little bit of wishful thinking to actually believe that you can go into the world and experience life in exactly the same way and with exactly the same opportunities at any size. Yeah, that's what I feel.   Terry  11:24 Yeah. And I mean, it'd be great. It'd be a perfect world, if we could go and just be fake. People could see us from the inside out. That would just solve everything right there.   Roy Barker  11:39 Yeah. And I think the other part of that is that, I don't know why, but it's gotten worse over the last few years. But people feel the need to comment or to be mean,   Terry  11:49 they're trying to be helpful, but they're really not right.   Roy Barker  11:52 And some people are just not, I mean, just nasty anyway, but then, you know, we also I think we suffer from the silent prejudice, that even if somebody doesn't voice that, it's always, you know, it's in their head, or, you know, they think that they think, oh, that, you know, I don't want to hire that person, because they're overweight, or the body image, you know, whatever it may be, that's not what I want.   Terry  12:19 And the same route, you know, for the reverse, even for thin people, you know, you can't automatically assume that often, then and fit looking people are actually that they may, you know, just have a great metabolism, they may, you know, they've got their, oh, it's, it's somewhere in between there would be nice. Absolutely. In fact,   Sandy  12:40 I have something to mention about that, I get the feeling that health and appearance are really unrelated. There really is very little overlap, for example, as I was mentioning, at a certain point in time, and I do think that it was caused, mostly by comments on me being overweight, which I actually was not, when I was younger, I have fallen into very restrictive eating patterns, at certain points in my life, I would say near Emirates, I mean, it's not ever a tip, because I know what that is. And I would certainly not want to claim that I have been in a situation is dire as people that have undergone that. But I have been in situations where let's say over a period of a couple of years, I have had nothing but let's say let's say back in the early 90s, maybe only three slimfast shakes throughout the day. And that was the extent of my eating. So when I've done that, and when I've done that, I've coupled it with very, very extreme exercise routines. So that can be healthy. I mean, nobody would assume that that's healthy. But when I do that, I'm normally at my lowest weight. And normally when I'm at my lowest weight people come out of the woodwork, doctors, personal trainers, and everybody says, Oh, you look fantastic. You are the picture of health. Now I know I'm not the picture of how can I be the picture of though if I'm practically starving myself maybe even treating myself to what a diet coke now and then I mean, there's no way that that So, but I look quote unquote, very healthy. Now whenever I say okay, that's I mean enough with that let's let's try to actually get a little bit healthier. And I start you know, building in adding some more vegetables and fruits into the mix, which is normally something that many personal trainers suggest passing upon. Whenever I start adding, you know, more healthful foods, healthy proteins, healthy fats. Normally I'm kind of like at the weight that I am at now, which is a normal weight. However, when I'm at this weight, people normally say oh, you really let yourself go. So I mean, it's quite bizarre and people say oh, no, no, you need to take care of your health. I remember back when you look super healthy and I think Okay, that makes zero sense. So when I actually am healthy, people are saying that I look healthy. And then it's the other way around. That really makes no sense. And I think that's in line with what we see on social media and often in fitness magazines, all these Instagram influencers that are, you know, hashtag health and hashtag healthy life and hashtag in principle, and fitful and all of that, normally, what they're doing is they're only having diuretics for several days prior to their photo shoots. So obviously, their muscles look, very cut, they look very rich, they look fantastic, but there's just no way that they're healthy. And normally, they're posing with a smoothie, or they're posing with an apple. But those are not the things that they actually consume. Of course, that's not to say that that's the case with every single Instagram influencers, certainly, some people are naturally healthy, and they look healthy, or some people are naturally thin, or some people are naturally muscular. But that's not really the case. And I'm going to tell you something that you won't believe it'll blow your mind. Okay, you know how sometimes you see fitness magazines, and you see these people that you can tell that it's actually the same person, it's surely not very photoshopped, if at all. But you see how they go from, you know, flabby to Super fit. Okay, let me tell you, there's a technique that some companies used to get these impressive pictures, which is this, they go to a gym, and they find one of the fittest people, and they offer that person money to gain weight. So for right now, they keep up before picture, then they have that person gain weight, and then they snap a second picture, and then they just use them in the opposite way. So they use the one taken in the future as the before, and the one taken out as the after. So it's not really that somebody that was flabby got all ripped, somebody that got ripped, gained a little weight.   Terry  17:08 never would have thought of that mother   Sandy  17:11 raised me. Yeah, I know. It's very crafty, because we'll see, but pictures and they think, oh, it really is the same person, oh, this product must be like fantastic. And it's really not.   Roy Barker  17:22 So it's interesting. And we and then I think it's a good time to point out that, you know, when you go out into the world to hire trainers, die nutrition counselors need to make sure of their credentials, number one, but number two, if they tell you they've got a plan that they've helped 25 people with, you need to be thinking that, you know, everybody is not the same. And so really what you want is somebody to sit down with you and say, number one, what is your health you because you need to know, you know, the blood? The things I key on blood pressure, sugar, the glucose, you know, and I'm sure there's other things that a physician could point you into, but it's like, there are these markers in your life, what are those? And what do we need to do to make that healthier? Because you know, as you've said, you can, you can work on the body and you can make your body look one way, but that doesn't always translate into being healthy. And again, I think, you know, you pointed this out is that we tend to eat, equate those that Oh, that the thinner person, they must be healthy. And that is just certainly not the case. But just take care when we hire people to make sure that they have our best interest in mind, and that they take us as individuals to try to help us, number one, do what we want. But number two, look at our situation, where we are today for what it is.   Sandy  18:52 Definitely and also understand that a lot of claims made by personal trainers might not I mean, they do have an okay, here's the thing, exercise does not have necessarily a huge impact on body shape or type. It can certainly tone it can certainly tighten Titan, but it's not really linked to weight loss. That's like a separate thing. And many things that can be promised to you such as spot reducing, or dramatically changing your body type might not even be feasible for a number of reasons. For example, let's say that you have naturally very broad shoulders or very thick animals and those are your bugs. What can you do, there's nothing you can do, it's a bone, I mean, there's no reducing the size or the width or the length of a bone. So it's there are things that cannot really, really be changed. And that's okay. Exercise is still very important overall for a number of reasons health as you were mentioning, and even the social aspect I thought it was very interesting what you were mentioning toward the beginning of our conversation about mindset. And it's really very true. I have been working out for many years now. But I normally like to do that on my own, either at home or in a gym. But normally, on my own this to me exercise. Well, my favorite type of exercise is resistance, weight training. And I think that's very private, I think it's a very private thing. And it can also be a very intellectual exercise, in that you're trying to achieve a muscle mind connection in which you're focusing on what you're doing, you might even actually be taking notes as to this week, I was able to lift this amount. So it's something to me, that's a little bit personal. But in more recent years, especially after moving here to California, I did want to get involved in the more social aspects of working out. And for example, I saw that a lot of my friends were into running or jogging, or doing some kind of group fitness activity. And I wanted to join in what I felt like, how can I How can I do that? Well, I thought it was really, you know, it came down to mindset. I just signed up for different things I snapped started signing up for five keys for 10 case for stair climb challenge. And let me tell you, the reality is that I have never trained specifically for any of these events. But I just decided to talk to myself in a very positive way. Like, I'm sure I can do it. I've been working out even if it's not that specific type of exercise, but I've been working out for for many years, and I'm sure I'll do fine. And I actually did to find sometimes I think that we hesitate to join in fitness activities, because we think we won't be able to complete them or that they sound tremendously grueling. I mean, obviously, if you have any health concerns, you should check with a doctor. But if that's not really a concern, it's more a matter of, I really won't be able to do it, that's something you should just set aside. I do think that the way we speak to ourselves and to others has a lot of impact on our fitness and our health and even our weight. And I'm not even talking about this in a mystical way or in any kind of mystical shape or form. But for example, if I tell you, Roy and Terry, oh, you know, I'm a couch potato, I like hanging out at home snacking on potato chips. Whenever you go on a whitewater rafting trip, you won't invite me because you'll figure Oh, she won't enjoy it. Whenever you go on a hike or you go on a walk, you'll certainly not tell me to join it. If you come across information about a marathon or something, you won't send it over to me saying hey, you might want to join this because you wouldn't figure that I would be interested. However, even if I'm kind of lying at first, and I say, you know Roy, and Terry, I am so into fitness. I just love working out. I'm very outdoorsy. I just love that kind of thing. Whenever you come across information that you think I might like, you'll just send it over. And that will happen with my whole network of friends and acquaintances. And all of a sudden, just by virtue of saying, Oh, I'm very athletic. I just love this. I'm very interested in keeping in shape. I just love being healthy. I will be receiving information and invitations that will be actually helpful in leading me toward my goal.   Terry  23:42 Yeah, that's, I am one of those who I do not speak. I'm not very kind to myself. I mean, I just am not. And when I was reading about that in your book, that really, I went whitewater rafting about 1517 years ago. Never I'm not a fitness buff. I don't I think it's grew. You know, I just say that to myself. I think it's but I feel great. After I do it. It's just getting there. Yeah, that trip was awesome. I and I didn't get pitched out of the raft either. And that was my goal. But it was awesome. I never, I couldn't even imagine doing a 5k or a 10k. But after reading your book, I think I might be able to modify. Absolutely. In fact,   Sandy  24:33 you can walk it you can jog, if you can just complete it any way you like, and nobody's going to be upset about that. And it's very fun. You make friends. Super fun. Yeah,   Roy Barker  24:44 I think that's the important part is, you know, first off what you said is we need to give people the information and let them make the decision because, you know, basically if I say Oh, Sandy's a couch potato, she's over eating chips. She wouldn't want to go I'm making a decision for you. Instead of letting You make that decision. But then also the it's hard. But we have to get over that, that people that other people really even care what we're doing. I mean, I, when I think if you go, if you were able, if you just signed up for any kind of a run, that's a start, and I'm you know, I'm impressed number one. But if Who cares if you run halfway and walk halfway, you're still out there making progress. And you may not run the whole one the first time. But if you do 345, you may get where you run it all. And and then you know, we can talk about that too at the gym. People don't want to go to the gym, they don't want to go to group exercise, because they're overweight and all of this, but you know, what? People usually that are working out, they understand that maybe that's your starting point. And I think, I think they would be a lot kinder to you most of the time, you know, like the gym I go to, I'm overweight, but I never get looks or flak or anything, but I don't worry about it. I'm there for me, I try to stay in my lane and not worry. Well, number one, I guess I don't think anybody else even is going to give me the time of day. It's like they got their own stuff going on. So they're not worried about you know me. But anyway, just you just have to get out there. And another great example of that, I think, is yoga. And this is what I like about yoga is, well, the lady, I've got a DVD, she always says, Look, if you can't do this, here's a modification. And she always gives you something just to keep you moving.   Sandy  26:38 That's fantastic. And you're absolutely right, that most people are not paying that much attention to us. Absolutely. And certainly, I mean, there are Jensen, there are gyms, obviously you need to shop around and find one where you're where you're comfortable. And even. Here's the thing, a lot of people feel very self conscious while at the gym, because they feel like they look terrible. But that's partly because they are, you know, in very unflattering clothing. But I mean, these days, there are a lot of very flattering, very attractive workout clothes, in fact that leisure is big business, in the fashion industry. And I think if you feel that you look fine. I mean, regardless of body weight, body type, just knowing you look fine. Maybe in the case of women, maybe you can add a little mascara, little lip gloss, maybe a little self tan or something to make you feel more comfortable, as a guy, maybe a nice looking tailor t shirt, something that makes you feel more confident. That goes a long way. I think the reason we don't feel comfortable is because we feel we're not at our best. And that's always a little bit difficult.   Terry  27:45 I just want to cover I mean, you just want to cover it up. I I'm one of those who I used to wear big baggy shirts and sweats and you just cover everything up because I wasn't where I wanted to be. But I don't think I've ever been where I wanted to be. But you know, a few years ago, I shed some weight. And so I started wearing clothing that fit. You know, I forgot what that felt like, because I've just been trying to cover it up.   Sandy  28:11 Exactly. And wearing baggy clothes tends to be so counterproductive. Because it doesn't hide anything. It just makes you look all the more bulky. So it's really not a flattering look on on anyone really. But I do think that the fact that you decided to move away from that is an excellent sign. Because to me, it seems that it it just shows that you had a lot more confidence. And surely you discovered that that was far more flattering. Not only because it actually and objectively is more flattering, because it's just less, it adds less volume to your to your body. But also because it's a sign of feeling confident and a lot of the way people perceive you. And the way that you actually look on a physical level has to do with your confidence level. And if you were feeling more confident, it's very clear to me that you surely look far more attractive. on a physical level. It's   Terry  29:06 very interesting. Yeah, and I just got rid, I mean, I just stopped thinking about all the noise, the outside noise, you know, and not about my ego just it is what it is. And if you don't like it go, you know, here I am. Whatever you think is not my business who say that a lot?   Roy Barker  29:25 Well, it's a you know, it translates the mindset, and we talk about this in business, as well as our personal life is that a lot of times we tend to be so hard on ourselves that we need to give ourselves a break and say look, you know, basically like you said, it is what it is. I can't change this. In the next 10 minutes. Usually, it's going to take time, but if I take those baby steps, you know they all add up is kind of like walking during the day, you know, it'd be it's, sometimes I can't go out and do 5000 steps all at one time. But if I do, like this watch, it makes me do 250. It makes me do 250 every hour. So if I stick with that, at the end of the day, you know, before I go walk, and I'm starting out with 20 503,000 steps, so we have to be moving in that right direction. And there's never a better time to start than today.   Sandy  30:23 Absolutely, no, absolutely, that's the whole thing, once you get started, that's the way that's the way it goes. There's a saying in Spanish that my grandma used to say, which would loosely translate to, when it comes to eating or scratching a niche, the first thing to do is just start. And the same would apply to fitness, whenever you want to get fit, the first thing to do is just start and you'll find that, that you will keep on going in that direction. And I think that's also very important these days for men. Because I feel that in recent years, let's say standards of perfection holding forth have been a little bit more relaxed for women, at least to a certain point. And well, I mean, sometimes you see, magazine covers these days, when you have female celebrities or female models in there, let's say average person, wait, even Victoria's Secret has decided to do away with their Victoria's Secret angels campaign, there's no longer point to be any Victoria's Secret show, we've come to know it. However, when it comes to men, I think that Well, I mean, standards have been raised dramatically, I've seen that a lot of male actors these days, they are tremendously ripped, and they're expected to be either shirtless or full on naked in their movies. And it's just crazy. A lot of male actors have actually, you know, made a career out of that type of thing. And some have, let's say, maybe strengthened or, you know, like really solidified their career upon becoming very, very, very athletic looking. And even on a more, let's say, on a level that's outside of Bollywood, for example, a lot of male CEOs, instead of having their friends join them for drinks, they have their friends join them for rock climbing, or that kind of an activity. So I feel like it's, it's this very alpha male thing these days. And I think that's also something that, I mean, I'm glad that that standards are being a little bit more relaxed for females, but I'm a little concerned that guys might experience what women used to experience these days. And it's also important for teenage boys, you go on to teenage boys Instagrams these days, and it's a bunch of shirtless kids, you know, showing off their abs and their pecs and visma I think that's not super healthy. It can't be it's, it's something that really does a number on people's mindset when you cannot live up to that expectation.   Roy Barker  33:05 Yeah. Speaking of that, I'm not gonna mention his name. But there was a singer that's pretty popular now, that was doing an interview with one of the major networks, and it was a tape so they, you know, they had they showed the clip, and it went away. And so the, the interviewer just made the comment, like, I've known this guy for years and said, I haven't seen him with a shirt on in the last six years. So yeah, there's a lot to be said for, you know, I mean, it's just not me, even if I was at my, my optimal weight and body shape and all of that I probably wouldn't do an interview on a national network shirtless. So, you know, I always feel like that there's more to that most people show up no matter. You know, some of the bigger way calm action movie stars that are ripped and buffed, they usually show up with a shirt on. So there's a little bit to kind of what you're saying there. They you know, they've got this image and I feel like it's an extra draw.   Terry  34:05 Yeah, it's very strange that they it's totally turned the tide. Now they're all eye candy. You know, that's why.   Sandy  34:14 But there's another trend that I I can see that it could be, let's say unhealthy in a certain way. But I also kind of like it for another reason. This other trend that I'm mentioning is the fact that people okay, when I was a little girl, people that reached 30 were thought to be over the hill. Oh, they were middle aged. Oh, they were so old. In this day and age, you can be 6070, late 70s 80. And you're supposed and expected to look super hot, whether you're a man or a woman. Now, again, that's I kind of don't like it because it might be unrealistic for some, but I also kind of do like it because it's just, it's Just fantastic to not limit ourselves, I wouldn't want to say, well as the years Come, I'll have no choice but to just let myself go. And I'll just be this flabby old lady in a rocking chair. No, I don't think that that would be either necessary or expected or desired. And I see now that there are plenty of role models that show that you can look extraordinarily good. No matter what your age, like, for example, going to male option stars, you have like a Robert Downey Jr. Or even a Brad Pitt. They're in their late 60s now, or people like Jay low, mid 50s. I mean, they look great. And they will continue to look great. 10 years from now, 20 years from now. And that's something that again, yes, I mean, you cannot hold yourself up to Hollywood standards. But it's good that we do see role models, so that we don't automatically assume Okay, let's think of a seven year old, okay, I'm thinking of somebody in a rocking chair, you know, like all dried up or, you know, terrible. No, when you think somebody like 6065 70, now, it can be somebody very sexy, very physically appealing from a conventional point of view, it can be somebody very vibrant, somebody's very active. And, you know, that's something that I've liked about joining in races and these kinds of challenges, that you see people that are clearly, I don't know, not teenagers anymore, or definitely not in their 20s or 30s. And they look amazing, and more importantly, their athletic performance is excellent. So that's also very interesting to watch. Yeah,   Terry  36:40 I was gonna say Helen Mirren, we can't say talk about this without mentioning her because he, oh my gosh, her in the bikini of how many, like four years ago? Oh, how old she is. She's 70. Some, maybe early 70s. I don't even know. But she looks great. He says   Roy Barker  36:59 it's a it's a good observation. Because like you when I was growing up, and you know, if you think about the age, like 6065, people were, they were they were, they were inactive in the rocking chair, you know, sitting in front of the TV and not really taking part. I think that's a, I think that's been a good part of our evolution is that we don't, we don't put those age boundaries on us anymore. We're like, um, you know, I'm of this age, I can do whatever, I may not be as fast as the next guy. But who cares, I'm out there doing my thing. And then the more people we get to join in of those ages, then the better it is, it's like, then everybody feels welcoming to do it. And because it's, that's another part of this, that I don't think we talk about enough. But it's that, you know, decisions that we make, as a younger person, lead into how we age. And that's one thing that, you know, I've kind of had a wake up about lately, you know, I've passed, he just had a birthday, I had a birthday not too long ago, that was pretty tough. And so but you know, it makes you think about, okay, well, if I'm in poor shape, I got poor eating habits. I don't exercise enough. What's that going to lead to in 20 years from now. And you know, because we don't want to be a burden on our family on our kids. We all want to live a healthy, vibrant life, you know, right up until the end. So I think these are things that you've got to take into consideration. early in life, we all think that we're 30 and bulletproof. But unfortunately, if you're lucky enough to live long enough, those things will catch up with you.   Sandy  38:39 That's absolutely true. But something that should give people a little bit of, let's say, comfort, is that in many cases, you can actually be healthier, possibly fitter, and possibly even look better from a conventional standpoint, as you age rather than when you were younger. A lot of teenagers have terrible eating habits, a lot of very young people like to say they assume they're bulletproof. So they're just feeding themselves terrible things their skin might be suffering, the consequences. They might be. Well, there's another thing when you're very young, often your confidence level is not at its peak. So oftentimes, that also plays a part in you're not looking your best. A lot of young people don't actually go to the gym or workout much. But sometimes when people get a little older, let's say late 30s 40s 50s, late 50s, and so on, they kind of have a wake up call, and they say, okay, no, no, I need to turn things around. And they actually start taking action. And all of a sudden, they look and feel amazing, way better than when they were younger. And I think we can actually think about people in our own lives or celebrities that we don't want to think about our circle of friends that look way better now than they did 20 years ago, I mean, for sure. I mean, a lot of people even, for example, Robert Downey Jr, that I mentioned, right now he's an athletic man, he is known to be an action star in his 20s. He was like a, you know, a very pale kind of golf like person. I mean, so again, I think he looks better now as a 16 year old man than he did about 20. Or even in the case of myself, I know, I was healthier, fitter, and probably in my physical prime, probably around 40. And not around 20. That's for certain at 20. I mean, I was very fit, but I was not very healthy. And I was not, I did not have much muscle tone, because that was not a thing that was popular back then. But a 40 or so I was modeling swimsuits. So I mean, it's, it's interesting that that really, age does not really played a huge role in that regard.   Roy Barker  40:58 Yeah, and we're getting rid of some of our bad habits, like, you know, the smoking and drinking to access, I think society is like, you know, we're moving away. But the, you know, the new smoking now is sitting in a chair and setting for your job, or sitting in front of a TV or sitting in front of game console. I mean, there's a lot of reasons for it. So you know, I think it's just part of the message is also just get out and get moving, you have to move every day. And the great thing about this time of life, was the period that we're in now is that, that you have so many options, we've got the gym, where you can do the weights, you can do all kinds of cardio equipment, we've got the wall, yeah, you got virtual, we got the mirror thing that leads you on it, we've got the group's you know, they have that meat out in the park, that they do different movements and yoga, we can play videos on the TV that do yo and some other you know, cardio type stuff, core work. It's just, we've got so much at our disposal that I just would encourage everybody, just find something you like you don't have to do the same thing every day, you can mix it up, but at least start exploring something that you can do and continue to do through your life because it's not only your physical health, but it's also your brain health.   Sandy  42:27 Yes, and definitely select, like you were saying a type of exercise that you enjoy personally. And also, it's a very good idea to match your workout for the day, to your mood. For example, if you're feeling tremendously stressed out and frazzled, maybe something like yoga, or Pilates, or something that might be a little bit more relaxing, might work well, if you're feeling a dip in confidence, definitely, I would say weight training is very good because you see your achievement, or you feel your achievement. If you're feeling aggressive, because you need to get rid of extra aggression, maybe you're mad at something or frustrated with something, maybe a boxing workouts something around those lines, that would be very good. And if you're just bored, and you can't come to, you can't bring yourself to actually do anything, what I would do is I would find mystery or suspense audio book, and listen to or a podcast maybe about true crime or something that's very intriguing. And I would listen to it as I was doing my workout. And I would only exclusively continue listening next time I worked out. So then obviously if I'm left with a cliffhanger, I'm going to be looking forward to working out the following day for sure. Oh, that's   Terry  43:43 a great idea.   Roy Barker  43:44 Well, you know, like, for me, taking a little walk during the day we try to we don't we're not great about consistency. But you know, going for that walk in the morning, and especially at lunch or in the evening, it's tends to clear my head and be think I have a lot of clarity of thoughts, either thinking of new things, or maybe I'm working on the problem I'm trying to solve and I just can't figure out you know, how this is all fitting together. You just be surprised at how clear your mind becomes when you just get away from things and even just take a little walk.   Terry  44:20 Yeah, and outside. You know, just go outside for a minute. Just if you just need to go and stand just look, look up to the sky, close your eyes don't look into the sun, but you know, just looking at I did that a while ago a little while ago and that just brought a lot of clarity. Believe   Sandy  44:40 fantastic. I also give a little tip in the book. It may not be for everyone, but I think that it's it can be helpful. Sometimes if you need motivation motivation to embark on a fitness program. Sometimes what you can do is put a cart before the horse in other ways you go to To your calendar or your date book, and you schedule something in the future that will require you to be in peak physical shape. It could be a 5k, it could be a bikini shoot, it could be a meeting with your former classmates, it could be whatever you personally feel will motivate you, and you put it on your calendar. And then you do a little countdown so that you know how many days you have to go. And just looking at that number will, at least it does to me, it gets me going, definitely, if I know I'm three weeks away from you have a TV show or the meeting with classmates, or whatever I do, you know, I'm there at the gym at five in the morning. And I'm not, you know, eating anything that should not be eaten. So I think it works.   Roy Barker  45:50 That's good motivate, I was thinking when you first started talking, I was thinking you were gonna say, you know, like, go out and buy your dress to dress sizes too small. So you can try them because that's a that's a motivator for me is I've got a, you know, a couple shirts that are way too small at this point. But you know, you go in there and try them on and you can see your progress. And it kind of gives you a little extra boost to get, keep going.   Sandy  46:15 I love that that's a wonderful idea. And you know, I have seen that the opposite tends to happen. So don't do the opposite. When people buy things one size too large, you actually grow you expand to fill up that garment. So don't. So that's something that you should definitely not do.   Roy Barker  46:32 Yeah, and I don't know that this happens for everybody. But you know, part of the problem with buying those baggy clothes is not only tend to fill them, but you become more comfortable. Like I don't really have any motivation to change them. But, you know, like when I put a T shirt on, that's like pretty snug. It gives me a lot more motivation to like, hey, I need to really keep on this program to make some changes. So it's not so tight because I can't wear it on public.   Terry  46:59 Yeah, or being able to breathe. Better a little too tight.   Sandy  47:05 Yes. I mean, this might sound a little bit like too obsessive. But I have heard that there are studies that show that if you eat in front of a mirror, you tend to make more healthful choices. Of course, I wouldn't necessarily recommend eating in front of a mirror because that sounds a little bit too, too obsessive. But it's, I think it maybe we wouldn't go that far. But I do think that before you make an unhealthy food choice, not only thinking in terms of what will this do to my body on a visceral level, but what will this do to my mood? And how will I feel after eating this thing. I've had the experience that sometimes I'm very tempted by say, a pizza, and I eat a pizza and my maybe a whole pizza. And my experience is that after eating it, I feel sluggish. I feel like a carb coma, I'm not comfortable. I just feel like very unhealthy and very unhappy. It's depressing overall. So sometimes what I do in order to just not eat that, is to think, think back on how I felt the last time I actually think that and I just remember, you know, it's really not worth it. It's not even that tasty. So it's just a matter of remembering how we feel when we eat things that we shouldn't be eating.   Terry  48:27 Yeah, and I feel I mean, I do feel better after I eat something that's after I eat a salad. You know, I never used to be able to get excited about salads or vegetables. I I'm a I'm a sugar, person, sugar and salt. Give me Give me some chips and chocolate, I'm good. But I just I feel a lot better after I eat something that is healthy for me and not pouring off on all the salad sweet. And, you know, caloric laced salad dressings and all of that just a little oil and vinegar, a couple of crude John's or some sunflower seeds or whatever. Just, it makes me feel a lot better. After I do that.   Roy Barker  49:06 There was a star that said something about you know, even if you eat a candy bar or ice cream, it's like you get, you know, five minutes worth of pleasure eating it. But what does it take to make that go away? You know, the effort that you have to put in or, you know, the damage that it can do to certain people if you know they have certain conditions. So we always have to think about that. That's It's good. It's hard to do for me because I'm like, oh, I'll eat it and think about it later.   Terry  49:35 The immediate pleasure that it's gonna bring Yeah, and then all   Roy Barker  49:38 we need to start thinking about what it what it is and what it does before we eat it. That'd be great. Yeah. Well, Sandy, thank you so much for being with us today. We certainly do appreciate it before we get away. What is a tool or what is a habit? Something that you do daily that you feel adds a lot of value to your life   Sandy  49:59 when it comes To fitness, I think that's something that adds value is knowing that every day, I get fitter every day I get healthier, and that allows me to enjoy and relish the passage of time, rather than fearing the passage of time. So that's something that I would recommend that our listeners engage in something that is measurable. It could be endurance wise, it could be how much weight can I lift? It can be how long can I work out? It can be how, what distance can I run? It can it could even be how much weight can I lose without obsessing, of course, but something that is measurable, will make every passing day feel good? Not like Oh, another day pass? No, it's like, oh, it's a brand new day. It's fantastic. I'm doing better than before.   Terry  50:46 I love that you you give some advice, but you also back it up with examples. And I'm, I'm a visual person. So I you know, I can see it in my head, what you're talking about. And this is how you wrote wrote your book, I thoroughly enjoyed it. It was an easy read not mean for me just to follow because you didn't go off on tangents or anything. It was like, to the point straight to the point. And I and I enjoyed that. And I just wanted to make sure that you knew that. Thank you so much.   Roy Barker  51:19 Yeah, I think the that's the nice thing, like the the brand of watch. Switch watches not long ago. But that's what I like about it is it gives accuse you for that smaller step, that if I take the smaller steps through the day, at the end of the day, you know, I've got decent results already without really you know, having to go out and do things. So take it that negative and let's turn it into a positive find something that you can measure. You know, we can't change what we don't measure something that's always said as well. So good advice. Yes. Well, thank you so much again, Sandy, we appreciate it. Tell us a little bit about the book where people can find it. And then you know how people could reach out if they want to connect with you.   Sandy  52:05 Absolutely. The book is called "Choose to Prevail" by Sandy Rodriguez, I actually have here with me. And it's a book that's available pretty much on any online platform, for example, Amazon or Barnes and noble.com or target.com walmart.com many different places where it can be found, probably Amazon would be the easiest. And if they click here to connect while we're on Instagram, as at choose to prevail. There's also a Facebook group called "Choose to Prevail." And I'll be more than happy to welcome anybody that cares to join us there.   Terry  52:40 And it's about reframing challenges.   Sandy  52:43 Yes, not only in fitness, but in life in general how to overcome any issue that might be tripping us up, some of us struggle with things that are big, such as, for example, the death of a loved one. Some of us struggle with something small, for example, of physical insecurity, or dealing with a difficult person. And all of these things can be managed more easily, with a shift in mindset. And that's what the book is   Roy Barker  53:08 all about. Yeah. All right. Awesome. Well, that's gonna do it for another episode of Feeding Fatty. Of course, I'm your host, Roy. I'm Terry, you can find us at www.feedingfatty.com. We're on all the major podcast platforms, iTunes, Stitcher, Google Spotify. If we're not on one that you listened to please reach out we'd be glad to add, add it to our list. And we're also on all the major social media platforms, so probably the most active on Instagram. So go check us out and check out the website for a lot of our past interviews. And go over there and you can watch and watch a video of this interview with Sandy as well as get the audio version for her share with your friends. Alright, until next time, take care of yourself and take care of your family. Terry  53:57 Thank you Choose to Prevail Book (@choosetoprevail) • Instagram photos and videos www.feedingfatty.com

Feeding Fatty
Stuck In Your Life or Career? Could be Your Subconscious Sabotaging You

Feeding Fatty

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 10, 2021 40:02


Stuck In Your Life or Career? Could be Your Subconscious Sabotaging You with Dawna Campbell We all want to feel valued, both worthy and appreciated. The subconscious works is that from the moment you were conceived till the day you exit this earth, it records every moment. So it records all of the events. And it records how you feel moment by moment to those events, and puts those feelings and emotions to the events. Then a template to create a reality. About Dawna Known as the Mind Whisperer, Dawna combines her past knowledge, wisdom, and experience to assist you in creating and restoring a life of happiness, prosperity, and love.  Dawna has over 25 years combined years of professional experience.  As a former Financial Advisor, her book, Financially Fit, is a #1 Amazon International Best Seller bringing together the world of money and the energy body, and the souls essence.  She is a professional speaker sharing her techniques during interactive workshops and maintains an international private practice.  Dawna has shared the stage with Lisa Nichols, Dr. Joe Vitale, Sharon Lechter, and David Meltzer.  Her personal Heart Centered Healing philosophy is to create a world that is a better place for all to live.   www.dawnacampell.com www.thebusinessofbusinesspodcast.com Full Transcript Below Stuck In Your Life or Career? Could be Your Subconscious Sabotaging You with Dawna Campbell Sun, 8/8 5:47PM • 40:02 SUMMARY KEYWORDS eating, energy, breathing, feel, feeling, body, dairy, food, world, stress, people, changed, mindset, day, find, create, fed, pattern, diet, serotonin SPEAKERS Terry, Dawna, Roy Barker   Roy Barker  00:00 And we are the podcast of course we bring you our personal journey, my personal journey Terry support in trying to get healthy. You know, as I've been aging, I think the wellness factor is, you know, it's finally a realization I know I need to deal with. So we don't want to outlive our wellness. I don't want to be a burden to anybody for certain. So we are going through, you know, some changes in our diet, trying to exercise more, be more active and just be more mindful and thoughtful about what we're doing. We know that we're not alone. So that's main reason we started this podcast. So not only do we talk about our journey, but we also have guests and professionals from time to time. Today is no different. Terry, I'll let you introduce Dawna.   Terry  00:44 All right, Dawna Campbell is a professional speaker, international healer and bestseller author. She teaches trains and mentors heart centered business owners, how to align your inner balance to gain infinite prosperity in all areas of your life. As a former financial advisor Dawna's book financially fit is a number one Amazon international bestseller bringing together the world of money and the energy world of the soul's essence. She is also a contributing author to other best selling books, including one habit to have in a post COVID world and cracking the rich code with Tony Robbins and Jim Britt. Dawna shares her techniques that she has learned all around the world from yoga, yoga, yoga, healers, Zen Buddhist monks and a medicine woman while maintaining a private practice. This has earned Dawna the title of the mind whisperer for creating instantaneous results in the areas of health, wellness and relationships. Dawna has over 25 years of experience and has shared the stage with notables such as Lisa Nichols, Dr. Joe Vitale, share Lecter Lecter and Kevin Harrington. She has been featured on Roku TV, Yahoo Finance, Fox News, NBC and the Los Angeles Tribune. Her personal heart centered healing philosophy is to create a world that is a better place for everyone. Dawna, welcome to the show.   Dawna  02:14 Thank you. And thank you for having me. I'm excited to be here with you today.   Terry  02:19 Yeah, well, I am so excited to talk about this. I mean, I don't even know where to start, because I have so many questions in energy healing and financial advising on like that meshing of those worlds.   Dawna  02:38 Yes, and I, the former financial advisor, we would look at client's portfolios and talk about net worth, and how much their assets appreciated, and the value and if they had enough for their goals. And as I transitioned into the world of healing after my own journey, clients, I realized we're saying the exact same thing, I want to know that I felt worthy that I'm enough that I was valued and appreciated when I was little. And then one day a couple years ago, it clicked that it's the same words we're using. So it has the same vibrational frequency behind it. So if you didn't feel like you are enough, on the inside, you didn't have enough on the outside financially. And money by itself is just energy. And it doesn't do anything until you apply energy to it. And the energy that gets applied is how you feel about yourself on the inside. So when I started working with clients, whether it was in the area of health, for what was going on with them physically, or if it was in a relationship, whether it was marriage, or family, or even in the areas of wealth, whatever, we shifted and changed every single time their finances started improving, because we were changing the route of how they felt. So everything in their life became better.   Terry  04:05 Wow, interesting. That makes a lot of sense. I mean, you know, some of our guests that we've had, we've had functional medicine physicians, I mean, it's all about going back to the root of everything. Yes, it is.   Roy Barker  04:22 So what are what would be some of the main I guess some of the main areas that you see as that route and the reason I ask is because you know, I have trouble staying on a good eating a good balanced eating plan. And so you know, I've at points in time I've tried to think back, you know, of any trauma or something that was undealt with or, you know, the negative energy. I feel like for the most part, you know, until I have a podcast equipment malfunction, I'm usually I'm usually pretty, pretty positive. I have to admit that I have thrown a shoe every now and then, you know, for stuff. But, you know, so I just, you know, I think about me personally. And always, I don't mind using myself as an excuse or as the subject because, you know, I want to, I want to try to find the root of this poor eating or, you know, just kind of fallen off because like, we'll do good for two, three days, we've done good for months at a time, but it is like, you know, the minute something goes wrong, it's like, everything goes wrong, and it's just you're not back on track. So or for me, anyway, yeah.   Dawna  05:36 Right. So the way the subconscious works is that from the moment you were conceived till the day you exit this earth, it records every moment. So it records all of the events. And it records how you feel moment by moment to those events, and puts those feelings and emotions to the events. And then from that it starts giving you a template to create a reality from because it's like the coding or the system. And that becomes automated. Now, when we understand and take a look at what is at the root of it. What we want to do is see how you feel in this moment when things go wrong. And then all at once you're eating more food, and you did great for like three months. But now it's like this, because there's an energy there, which is an emotion or a feeling. So we start there in the consciousness. And then we find going back by asking questions, where it first started in the subconscious where that energy was, and where it got locked in your body. Now, it may not be a traumatic event. And it may not even be an event that's associated to what you were doing, because we're following the feeling and the emotion to unlock it out of the body to stop causing harm. And then we invite in the emotion and feelings that we want to have health, goodness, kindness, it might be prosperity, it might just be feeling better, it might just be happiness, and we invite those energies in to take the place of what we're taking out. And this my job is why I'm called the mind whisper is to help you find what was hidden to you and change that frequency. So is the subconscious creates a new pattern moving forward?   Roy Barker  07:30 Interesting. Okay. And you said that sometimes it's not a traumatic event, it's just a is it? Is it still tied to an event? Or is it just kind of like maybe changes in life or something not like physical changes, but you know, like, as you progress through age, things just change   Terry  07:51 the same feeling goes with,   Dawna  07:54 right? So say somebody was working on their finances. And they wanted to know and understand why they weren't getting more. They were wanting to create more, but it just didn't happen. And I'll use myself as an example. And I remember when I was sitting there going, Okay, I need to go from this level of my business to this next level. But I'm not getting it. I'm not there. How come? How does this feel? Well, I'm frustrating, of course, well, where do I feel the frustration I have in my body. And I felt it kind of in my heart, but also in my stomach. And when I traced it back, I went, when did I feel that before and I instantly recall the time that I was shopping at the store with my mom, I asked for an item. And I got told no, and all the reasons why we couldn't afford this, you know, $2 item. And, and I was made to feel less than and not worthy in that moment, because I asked for something. And that was wrong to ask for it. So my subconscious brain associated feeling less than in that moment that was unrelated, and created that pattern that I couldn't ask for something that I wanted, because I was always less than, and I was made to feel ashamed for it. And when I changed that, I changed it to Well, I want to have happiness. So I wanted to experience that happiness. And what I discovered was, I was worthy whether I had the item on the outside or not, and that I was always enough and that something on the outside didn't validate me or who I was and when that changed the next level of business. Okay, because we changed the frequency on the subconscious side. So the event still happened, how I felt about the event was completely different and That changed everything else in my world.   Terry  10:03 Wow, I felt that I felt that feeling that you were talking about I mean, just with being told no. And the reasons why. And I mean, I have felt that and I can't even put my finger on it. That's bizarre. I've never had it explained. So well, you know, because I'm not I'm like on a quest to find out about energy and what's going on with me and different things like and ROI as as well, you know, just different things. As far as like the eating habits, as well, and just being healthy all together, because, you know, he said, he says, I'm his support, but he's my support as well, it's not, it's about me being healthy. Also, you know, we just, we both, we both want it.   Dawna  10:54 Absolutely. And I will tell you, one of the biggest places where most of the locked energy is at is in the stomach, in the guts. And there's a couple of reasons for that. The first reason is that when you were conceived, you're were connected to your mom, by an umbilical cord. So she fed you nutritionally in that. So that was the start of our eating patterns. But she also fed you emotionally with every thought feeling, and emotion she had, that also went straight into your stomach. So that's why it's called the second Ray, because you were fed all of those things energetically. And that went into your cells as your cells multiplied to create you. And then you were connected by your father through DNA. So whatever he went through that portion of the DNA that you have, if his also the same thing, so that's where the whole eating pattern really does start was when we're being formed in the womb. So some of the work we get to go back to that time, not necessarily, if you know things about what happened when your mom was pregnant with you, that's great, but how things might have felt and how we can clear out some of that energy that's not yours, that started your pattern when you were first born.   Roy Barker  12:13 It's funny that you say that, well, we've learned a lot about the stomach that it you know, a lot of, I guess a lot of things start there, a lot of the, with the stress, stress has the effect on it, but so like when I'm eating good, and but my, you know, my triggers tend to be late at night. But it's funny, because like, Okay, before we go to bed, I'll feel hungry, and I want something, you know, I just want it, I don't need it. But I get this empty feeling kind of in my stomach and in my chest. And it's weird, because we've talked about this, like, it's almost like that I have to be full to feel, I guess that safe and comfort or whatever, where you can go lay down and sleep. I don't know how, how any of that related, but sounds like there may be something to to that same, you know, to that feeling that I get relating back to this.   Dawna  13:11 So what we would do is explore that feeling of emptiness, and then identify when it really first started and what was going on in your life around that. And whatever those events are, we would take a look at that. And then we would find out what it was that you needed. Because we can put in what was needed at that time to release the emptiness. And if it was empty, you need to be filled with something right. So we can do that. Because physics says there's no time or space. So when we make those changes, then you go to bed feeling full, satisfied whole and complete without the emptiness. You're not craving the food.   Terry  13:52 Wow.   Roy Barker  13:53 Yeah, that's awesome. And yeah, I probably need to do it. Come on. So, you know, let's let's just talk about energies in themself. You know, we, we have talked some about it we, you know, I think Terry actually had talked to someone I guess it was, did your sister recommend or something? Yeah, the energies. But, you know, it's an interesting concept. Because the older I get, the more I feel like, you know, the universe is does have an effect on us and the energies that we put out, you know, sometimes we receive that back, it's the energy of weaken, we get to make the decision. If this is going to be a failed day or not, typically, you know, if we believe it is then it will come true. So can you talk a little bit about all of those energies and how they kind of relate?   Dawna  14:53 Yes, um, how we feel creates the next moment and the next moment and the next moment after that. So if you're in the energy of stress or worry or anger, then you're going to keep repeating those moments. And if you're eating at that time of stress, worry, anger excetera, those are the emotional components, you're feeding yourself. And then it's going to break down your entire digestive system. I know this because I got to experience it firsthand for myself for over two years, and I can talk about that. But if we're in the state of the happiness, the joy, the peace, the balance, then what happens is, our body is more relaxed, it becomes healthier. And if we're eating in that state, we're able to properly digest our food, instead of on the run in the car, driving around in that state. And how you get up in the morning is probably one of the most important things that you can do. Let me get a clean piece of paper here. Very first thoughts you have when you wake up are incredibly important. Now I'm one that likes to stay in bed as long as possible. Before I get up and run around and get ready for the day, but I always make sure I have plenty of time. But I used to get up out of the bed going, Oh gosh, I'm so tired. And I just want to stay in bed and I want to sleep in. And I changed my mindset, doing some of the work that I do. But I learned about a week and a half ago, that March 31 in Japan numerology is like the luckiest day of the year. Now, when I found out I found out on March 30. So I went, well, tomorrow's March 31. It's going to be the luckiest day of the year. So I got up on March 31. Going, it's the luckiest day of the year, I need to celebrate something. So I started celebrating all of my small little wins, self validation, and all of that, and I had a really great day. And I went, Oh, that works really well. It's April 1, it's the luckiest day ever. So now every morning since then I wake up, and I start thinking, Oh, it is the luckiest day ever. What am I going to celebrate? How am I going to celebrate? And what happens is immediately my mood is lifted up. I'm instantly happy. I get up, I go on about my day. And then I'm like, early to everything. And then all of these amazing things fall into place. What happened to my diet by doing this? Guess who's now drinking wheatgrass juice? Who does a pumpkin seed protein mix? And started eating salad at lunch? Oh, wow. Never would I ever do that. Because I have a hard time digesting salad after my own digestion issues. But now I've been eating salad every day. And I'm like, Hmm, this is starting to work. Just by thinking that it's the luckiest day ever.   Roy Barker  17:58 See, and I wake up in my day starts with Can somebody get this dog off. I have cats, they just got an 80 pound foot pillow down there that you know you like pinned in, you can't even get up. Now. That's interesting. Because, you know, we've talked a lot on this show, too, about that mindset, and that it's and I give my priest as much credit for this as possible, because he told me once that our minds are like grinders, and we get to choose what we grind. If we're grinding negative stuff all day, it's just gonna continue where if we grind positive stuff, it will just continue to multiply. And the other thing I think, too, it's not only the because things are gonna happen to us outside of our control, but I think it is, it's related to how we handle it, you know, if I'm already if I'm already having a spell, and something new comes on top of it's like, you know, you just to your breaking point. Whereas, you know, like dogs barking in the background. But whereas, you know, if things are going good and you're happy in that mindset, it just seemed like you're able to handle things a little bit better.   Dawna  19:15 And mindset is only a part of it. Because the 10% we are consciously aware of the other 90% is hidden in the subconscious and is continually playing kind of like background noise, but we don't hear it. We don't know. But it's out there and it is other people might pick up on it. But we ourselves don't hear it and we're like a radio tower. It's always being broadcasted out. So we don't always know all of that we're sending out. It's kind of like when you're getting ready to go to like a sales meeting, and you're walking down the hallway and you know, if it's going to be a really good sales meeting, and everyone's gonna be congratulated, or nobody made their sales numbers and you're kind of all in trouble. You feel that loss Before you start walking down the hallway to the meeting, all right, well, that's exactly how it works in our energy field. And what you're feeling is, is all the subconscious thoughts, energies and emotions leaving the person's body. And so mindset, yes, to be consciously aware of how we're going to start our day. But there's that 90%. That's that tape loop that's always playing in the background.   Roy Barker  20:23 Interesting. So, if we're always putting that out, let's talk for a minute about the old, saying, it's the We Are the average of the five people that we surround ourselves, you know, do we soak up that neg negative or positive energy from somebody that we are around in that subconscious?   Dawna  20:47 Because what happens is, is you are in a shared energy field with them. And if you hang out with five people, and they are not of the same mindset, as you are there, always a lot of anger or chaos or drama around it, you start absorbing that that goes in your energy field. And then pretty soon you have anger, drama and chaos in your life. And you're like, how did I get here. And if you were around five people that were of a different vibrational frequency, a different mindset, a different feeling, then that's going to raise you and elevate you, as well. And one of the Buddhist monks, I think it was one of the Dalai Lama's said, the very most important thing that you can do is to be mindful of the company that you've keep. And that's when we have friends, we vibrate here, and then pretty soon some leave, and then new ones come in, but they feel different than the old ones. And then you are no longer talking to the old friends, because you're talking to the new friends. And it's just because of how energy attracts vibrationally through the law of magnetism. Wow.   Roy Barker  21:53 Okay. Yeah. What No, it is, I mean, and you just, you just feel better. And, you know, you can tell those people that, you know, we call them, you know, the energy suckers, but it's like, you know, you can be all pumped up, and then there's people you can get around, and when you leave, you just feel like a wilted flower, like they just suck.   Terry  22:16 have nothing left,   Dawna  22:18 you're depleted, you have to go to sleep for the next four hours. Yes.   Roy Barker  22:22 So how does, you know some things that we always talk about too, is our exercise patterns, our sleep patterns? How does all of that play into this as well?   Dawna  22:34 It does, because how you digest your food will affect your sleep patterns. Now, in order for us to sleep, we have to have the proper mix of melatonin which is produced in the pineal gland in our brain. In order to have them bright melatonin, we have to have the right amount of serotonin to produce the right amount of melatonin. So this is just a continual cycle. Most of the serotonin is produced in the digestive system. So if you are not eating the correct foods to produce serotonin, you're going to get depleted. And every time we use our electronics, whether it's our phone, video games, zoom all of it, we get a little surge of serotonin flashing through our brain, and if it doesn't replace through the digestive tract and what we are eating, then we become depleted if we get too depleted in serotonin, we become depressed. But if you have the right mix of serotonin, then Melatonin is properly synthesize, and you have a balanced sleeping pattern. So the sleeping is out of balance, or you can't sleep or you're constantly waking up, it could be your diet.   Roy Barker  23:48 You know, we've, I don't think it's too early in the process to say that we, we've been thinking about the cutting down on our meat protein, and we have kind of been looking, I guess, the last week or so we've been doing pretty much plant base. And because, and we've been doing the, I guess the intermittent fasting for this reason, we've been, you know, again, told a lot of times that our body spends about 80% of its energy digesting our food. So if we eat all day long, it's constantly doing that and I was just st talented this morning that I just wake up feeling so much better. And the other thing we're doing, we're quitting eaten, you know, like at six or seven, so I don't get to have my 10 o'clock, you know, Taco Bell snack or pizza or whatever, you know, whatever we can find laying around so I'm sure that has something to do with it. But the other odd thing is I have an arm that I have some inflammation in some of the tendons and I said you know eating good. The inflammation it's like it just disappeared overnight. I mean, like magic,   Terry  25:05 like two days, or   Dawna  25:07 I don't that's Yes, because the diet plays such an important role. And we don't think about it. By eating more of a plant based diet, you're eating food that is created by lights. And light energy is what we need in our body, for our soul for our spirits. Interesting. You can still eat meat, be mindful about the meat. And I say that because it also depends on your blood type, which I learned, oh, when I lived in the ashram, which is a spiritual living community, it was vegetarian. And, and actually almost 100% vegan by the time I was there, and I was a particular blood type, I'm Oh, positive. So about six months of being completely vegetarian, I started craving red meat. And I didn't know why. And I thought it was because of the iron content. But I found out that there's an amino acid in red meats that Oh, positive, or Oh, blood type people need it. And that it wasn't wrong for me to eat meat if I was craving it, because it said my body needed something from it. So occasionally, I would eat meat. I remember asking energetically once, what was the best diet for me? And I heard fruits and vegetables, nuts and seeds, sometimes meat. So I went to go do that. I thought it was gonna starve. Because what was not on there was dairy, or Great. Well, it's a slow process and to do it, and moderation, including moderation.   Roy Barker  26:42 Yeah. And that's kind of the plan we've adopted is it's not, you know, we don't have any conviction against me, or anything that we're saying never ever again, but I think it's more of that controlled, and, you know, maybe trying to have a nice piece of fish if you just really crave something, but   Terry  27:01 and trying to cut things out, you know, some I mean, just trying to clean our refrigerator out from all the dairy and the meats. And I mean, all of that stuff, there is so much so we made the decision. And then, you know, spent most of our time trying to clean out the fridge. But I think we're there I'm sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt you.   Roy Barker  27:19 Oh, no, no, no, I was just gonna say the the other part of that is the dairy and so is how dairy relates. We had a guest on and the episode hasn't aired yet. But when I started researching some of his work, it was very interesting to find that mammals are the only are humans are the only mammal to drink another mammals milk. And, you know, if they said that   Terry  27:45 thought about it like,   Roy Barker  27:46 Yeah, but they said it had. They said, Really? To be honest, if you aren't lactose intolerant, you're probably the the exception not the rule that we should all you know, after some form of infancy, we should all get that way. So I guess, what are the how does that affect our our energies?   Dawna  28:12 With a Jheri, depending on the type of dairy, dairy does cause inflammation in the body. And now our milk today is so different than what it was 20 or 30 years ago. And how it's processed in children is even different. They're doing things now not only with the additives and the hormones, but they're adding sugar, to milk to sweeten it to have children and other people drink it because it tastes sweeter. That sugar causes inflammation, and they're adding it in there. So we don't always know what's in the the milk, or the products. There's food coloring in cheese, cheese is not naturally orange, the food coloring has heavy metals in it that's needed, which is the binding agent to make the food coloring stick like aluminum. So you don't know that there that's in the food calorie that's in the cheese that we're consuming. And so all of these things will put those toxins into the body. And with you really want to make a big change to your diet, the number one thing that you can do is to take out food coloring. And if you look at every thing that has food coloring in it, you will have a very clean diet. Every cracker, every processed food has some form of food coloring in it. And cheese has food coloring in it if it's not white, and there are some brands that have a natural food coloring called a nano and that's okay. It's a natural color and kind of like what Hannah would be but for food, but it's not the other coloring that we would have been like American Jeez, yeah.   Roy Barker  30:03 Yeah. And that that was the hardest thing to get. I'm sorry. I didn't mean taco week. I was just gonna say that that was probably one of the hardest things for us to do was to actually take some leftover cheese and put it in the trash because I mean, that's my Yeah, we're cheese, that's my go to snack, there's not a meal that we don't have that doesn't have cheese all on it. But also, I think not only for the dairy qualities, but tends to the what we found be all very high in salt, which you know, but I will say that is my favorite thing. My favorite tomato paste tomato sauce is you can take taste it when they have put a lot of sugar in   Dawna  30:53 ketchup, as a lot of sugar in it.   Roy Barker  30:57 So what are some recommendations that, you know, I know that if if somebody's got a problem, they really need to sit down to have a session with you. So you can kind of work back and find this, you know, where, where their energies may be affecting them. But are the subconscious may be affecting their energies. But what are some things that we can do, you know, maybe just Top of Mind three or four things that we can try to start practicing every day, that should really help us not only in the health and wellness, but our overall life.   Dawna  31:33 A couple of things, the first thing that you can do is when you are eating, make sure you're eating out of happiness and joy, and not out of stress or worry. And if you're going to feel or be rushed, while you're eating, it might be better not to eat more blue, some protein drinks, to be able to do that for less amount of time, instead of eating, when you are eating, put down the fork in between bites. And don't be on your electronics at the same time. Yes, we have those away, and just sit and eat because when the body's in that state, you're going to digest your food a little bit more properly. So there's some things like that, that you can do automatically. One of the things I love doing is a breathing exercise. Now I don't do this when I'm eating, but it helps shift the energy inside. So we need to feel depressed or angry or anxious or worried or in those stressful states, what we want to do is release that out of the body. Now when we breathe out, we breathe out co2, which is carbon dioxide, which is all of the toxins our body no longer needs. And when we breathe in, we're breathing in oxygen and all the things our body does need. So what we do in this breathing exercises you breathe in, but you're going to breathe in happiness or joy, it might be calmness and stillness could be serenity, kindness, and you're going to breathe out the stress, the worry, the anxiety, the depression, and I do this, I set the timer on my phone for about two or three minutes, and I close my eyes. I breathe in happiness, my read out bitterness. And I will sit there and do that over and over with the same words. And then the next day or the next time I do it, I might choose different words, whatever it is that I'm feeling. And that's going to change your body physiologically. And when that happens, it's going to put you in a calmer state, you'll become more focused, you'll have a lot more clarity, and you might not be hungry. And if you think you're hungry, or you need to fill yourself up with something, drink a glass of water, especially if you're angry, or you're getting frustrated, drink a glass of water, you could just be dehydrated. And that water will flush through the body. making those shifts and changes as well just like the breathing will do. And you will it'll go back into that calmer state. And then you can take a look at what's going on.   Roy Barker  34:07 Yeah, and talking about the breathing. You know, that's something that I've really recognized about myself is holding breath and stress not ness. And it doesn't have to be like a bad stress. It could just be intense. I've noticed it like, you know, when I really get into a spreadsheet and things are rolling and doing this. It's like, you know, I have to actually say take a breath. I used to have a sign over my desk that said breathe and people would laugh and say you have to remind yourself to breathe and be like, Yeah, sometimes that but even when I'm breathing, I think I'm a very shallow breather. So I think there's a lot of there's a lot of truth to that we need to really take in those big deep breaths to help our body and you know, if you look at yoga and some other things that you know, we can control a lot of different things with that breathing I think and that's why they really They work on not only the body movements, but that breathing technique as well.   Dawna  35:05 Absolutely. And the thing to also remember is that even if you stop breathing out of stress, your skin is still breathing. But because you have so much stress running through the body, when that air comes in through the skin, it will have more of a stressful state to it, even if you're holding your breath, versus being in the calmer, more relaxed state. And if you stop breathing, like in meditation, which does happen sometimes for people, the air that's coming in comes in through peace and balance, and stillness instead of stress that way. So it also depends on that emotional state to how the air comes into you. Okay,   Roy Barker  35:50 well, awesome. Well, we appreciate you taking time out of your day to be with us. And, you know, I think that you've mentioned a few things, but one of our closing questions is always, you know, what is what's something, the one practice you feel adds the most value to your day, it could be an app of habit, just anything that really, that you use quite often   Dawna  36:13 that I take a two minute break, doing one of those little mindful exercises every three hours. So when they're I have a break in between things, I stop, I leave the room. And I go sit and do something just to re adjust and recenter myself, doing like the breathing exercise, sometimes I just focus visually on something. Because every time you do that, it clears the mind allows you to have more focus and gives you more clarity. And then when you come back and you start working again, your work, it's just done. And it's it's completed and you're in a better elevated mood, and the stress and the frustration, even just sitting in a chair for a period of time, leaves the body. And that's that would be my number one go to and I do that throughout the day about every three hours. Okay,   Roy Barker  37:07 awesome. That's, that's good.   Terry  37:09 Really good advice I was gonna ask you about. So you're available for sessions online? Can you tell us what, what you offer on your website?   Dawna  37:22 Yep, absolutely. If you go to Dawnacampbell.com. And that's dawnacampbell.com. There's a section on there that says sessions. And when you pull that up, I do offer a complimentary 1530 minute type session connection reading with me if you want to know more information or how the process might work for you. And then from there, we would determine what type of session or session packages you might need based on the complexity of what it is that you're working on and what you want to shift and change. And then from there, we just schedule and if we do packages, you have priority scheduling. So I personally schedule you on my calendar. And we work through step by step sequentially over however many weeks each session average is about an hour. All right,   Roy Barker  38:11 that's awesome. Well, y'all reach out to Dawna and you have such an impressive list that we're going to get you to recite, I know that you've got your book, your book sitting next to you there. And then I know that you've written some chapters for some other books. And anyway, you've got a lot going on. So tell us all about where we can find some of your writings out.   Dawna  38:35 Okay, so some of them are on my website at DawnaCampbell.com. But if you go to social media, most everything is posted on my business Facebook page. So that's Dawna Campbell 811. You can also find me on Instagram, LinkedIn, YouTube, and Twitter, and everything gets cross posted there as well. So anything that I have recorded anything that is there, it's any show that I've been on, it's all in those feeds. Okay,   Terry  39:05 and financially fit is your book that you've got yes   Roy Barker  39:08 Yes. All right. Well, awesome. Well, Dawna, we appreciate all the great information y'all reach out. See if she can help you with your subconscious and your energies. I know. You know, we feel better just talking to you for this little little amount.   Terry  39:26 Breathing a little deeper. Yeah, exactly.   Roy Barker  39:29 All right. Well, that's gonna do it for another episode of Feeding Fatty Of course, I am Roy. I'm Terry. You can find us at www.feedingfatty.com. We are also on all the major social media platforms. And a video of this interview will go up on YouTube when the episode goes live. So be sure and check that out. If we're we're also on all the major podcast platforms, iTunes, Stitcher, Google Spotify for not only one that you use, please reach out we'd be glad to get that added. So until next time, take care yourself www.dawnacampbell.com www.thebusinessofbusinesspodcast.com

Feeding Fatty
Visualize Your Journey Through Life, It's The Key To Success

Feeding Fatty

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 27, 2021 54:59


Visualize Your Journey Through Life, It's The Key To Success with Halle Eavelyn One of the hardest things I ever see is the ability to be present. We wanted to take that magic pill and be I'm thin. And we're done. It just it does not work like that. The reason is that it isn't the destination in the first place. It's a journey. The reason you stay present in every moment is that you're not trying to get anywhere, you're just are and are is the destination. About Halle I was an atheist until I went to Egypt the first time, and then, literally, my life changed in one breath. And that's the truth – we are all one breath away from enlightenment; the question is: Which breath? So I knew if I could get you to a place of letting go, of releasing the resistance and the tight hold you have on the controls of your life (that thing that our egos tell us is the only thing keeping us sane), you could get on the path of your own best journey in your business and your life. When I first started using the tools I had been taught on my own “seeker's quest,” I began to be guided in that work, too. It's like your soul talks to my soul and tells me what to say that gives you the most transformation. For a long time, I didn't fully trust that guidance, because (perhaps like you) I'm so logical, and I want to be able to SEE it to believe it, but it's become second nature to me now, so I no longer question how, I am just fully in gratitude that I hear the answers you need to shift. However we work together, I'm looking forward to sharing the next part of your journey with you. www.halleeavelyn.com www.feedingfatty.com Full Transcript Below Visualize Your Journey Through Life, It's The Key To Success with Halle Eavelyn Tue, 6/15 12:03PM • 55:08 SUMMARY KEYWORDS people, energy, feel, terry, life, intention, hands, roy, long, podcast, talk, moved, accomplish, book, empowered, thought, love, eat, set, body SPEAKERS Halle, Terry, Roy Barker   Roy Barker  00:23 Hello, and welcome to another episode of feeding fatty. This is Roy, this is Terry. And so we are podcast we are journaling my progress, sometimes progress sometimes regress through this wellness in. No when we talk about wellness, we talk about a lot of things its diet not being on a diet, but what we eat our exercise our mindset, sleeping, I mean it's everything water intake, all of these things combined. And so even though we are chronicling my journey, Terry is my trusty sidekick and helper.   Terry  01:00 And a little bit about me to see.   Roy Barker  01:05 We also do have professionals that come from time to time to help us with these things to show us, give us some good feedback heads up, you know, give us some new things to think about and today is no different. Terry, I'll let you introduce,   Terry  01:17 we have been looking forward to this one with Holly Evelyn. She is a transformational coach, a speaker and a writer who helps people break out of their old patterns so they can live their best lives. And Holly, I'm gonna let you go more into detail. I'd rather hear you discuss your background and, and all of that, and welcome so much to the show.   Halle  01:39 Thank you, thank you so much. I have just so enjoyed the little bit that I've gotten to know you both. And I think that your your journey into your own, you know, deeper versions of yourselves and like bigger versions of yourselves not physically, but emotionally and and mentally is, is so admirable. I think there's a lot of people who are waking up now to the idea of, you know, it's time to look for something more than just, you know, let me get married, get a great job, have kids grow old and die. Not that there's anything wrong with that. However it is it can be bigger, and you guys are on that arc. And I really loved that. And I just wanted to mention that right up front.   Roy Barker  02:22 Well, thank you. Yeah, it's, it's it's exciting. I mean, you know, I'm an old dog trying to learn some new tricks. It's it's kind of a fun journey. Some things work, some things stick. But, you know, we're finding a lot of great things.   Terry  02:35 Yeah. And even though I mean, some people start out, trying to work on the physical aspect. And man, it goes so much deeper than that. It's just all this inner work. And then you're like, Oh, my gosh, I don't want to know that about myself. I don't want to know everything you find out. It's all nuts. But let's say it's   Halle  02:56 okay. Well, I was gonna say it's really what you're saying is is correct what it's like, while you're in what I call like, in the swim, right? So when you're in that, that primordial soup of I don't want to look at these ugly places in myself. And I'm not talking about like, you know, I don't like my thighs. I'm talking about like, the ugly places like in our internal experience, you can feel like crap as you're going through it. You know, I was on with a client earlier today. And she was saying to me, like, I know it's growth. But it really is just annoying my energy. And I totally get that. It's like, it's no fun when you're in the swim. However, when you get to the other side of it, you know, and I'll tell at least one personal story that I can think of that will we'll talk about that specifically. But when you're on the other side of it, it's like, Oh, thank goodness, I did that. Oh, I'm so grateful that I went through that and Oh, the me that I am now is so much better, and so much braver and so much more capable of handling all that comes my way on a daily basis. And and then that makes a big difference too.   Roy Barker  04:03 And I think it's good to reminder about that about handling things and changing. It doesn't happen overnight, as much as we wish that it would that, you know it's a progress. And I think you said like look into the future that if I keep this mindful practice, it gets better day in day, every day that I practice it, it just gets better and being present   Terry  04:23 is so important. Just being able to feel it and be there in the moment.   Halle  04:31 Yeah, and let's talk about that for a second, Terry, because in my experience, that's one of the hardest things I ever see with clients is their ability to be present. So first of all, did you know that goldfish is have attention spans longer than we do? goldfish his attention span is nine seconds and hours over the last, you know, 20 years or whatever. No surprise has shortened from 12 seconds to eight and the internet attention span Like how long you can focus on something on the internet without distraction is 3.8 seconds. So we're like, you know, you're we said earlier, like, we wanted to take that magic pill and like, Oh, I'm thin now lovely. And we're done. And seen. And it's just it does not work like that it does not work like that we say that it does. We hope that it does we want it to, but it doesn't work like that. And the reason is that it isn't the destination in the first place. It's a journey. And the reason you stay present in every moment is that you're not trying to get anywhere, you're just you just R and R is the destination. And that's really weird for people. Right?   Roy Barker  05:43 It's tough because we are so focused on the finish line. And I think you know, and this applies to our health, wellness business, just life in general is that we could be so focused on the finish line that we miss all the great stuff in between. And then we get to the finish line and we feel very unsatisfied. I think because we missed all the stuff in between and it's it's kind of a hollow victory a lot of times.   Halle  06:10 Okay, so my story about that is a little sad. I was standing at or sitting in a room filled with my entire family, my extended family, and my aunt and uncle who are no longer with us, we're standing on the Dyess being lauded for their 50th anniversary. And my aunt Shirley said, I look around this room. And I think Where did 50 years ago, I have these moments. I mean, they had plenty of money, they crossed the you know, the the Atlantic on the QE to multiple times, they lived in this stunning place in Corona Del Mar, like overlooking which some of the most expensive real estate in the United States overlooking the ocean, they raised three children they had like everyone that was in the room with me, my whole family was like, you know, like, mostly because of them. And my aunt was now the matriarch of the family. And yet, she's saying I can only remember a few of those moments. And in fact, a few years later, she ended up maybe 10 years later, she developed dementia. And by the time she died, she could only speak in what we called Word salad, which was complete gibberish that had like cadences, that new sound that sounded familiar. And I remember at that age, just really looking at her and listening to her and it hit me like a ton of bricks, I will not live my life like that. I do not want to look back over 50 years. So I'm going to give your listeners a good tool. So we didn't even talk about all of this, but I'm a transformational coach. Right. My job is to help people transform their lives and not just transform their lives. But you know, when you stop worrying about food, clothing and shelter, you can start thinking about art. It's what I call the Renaissance theory. And so when you're busy saying how do I feed my family? or will there be enough this you can't focus on creating masterpieces I believe that that's why the Renaissance is so beautiful, because the the the work has come down to us as as so a beautiful and enduring and magnificent is that the artists didn't have to worry about where their money was coming from it was fully funded by people who had more money than they knew what to do with. Okay, so how does that translate into our lives, when you get the stuff out of the way that is the worry, the doubt the fear, the uncertainty, the the the victimization of yourself the stories that you tell of your, you know, the failures that you've had. And when you stop all of that, and you move into the present moment, all of that goes away. Because in this present moment, right now, right now, all our needs are met, right? And now, and now. And now and it's our job moment to moment to be in that present. So a good tool for this when you're just like crazy, crazy busy, and you're like oh my gosh, I can't like nothing's going right, what can I do? Pause and just take set the intention of being centered, and what is being centered. It's grounding yourself with your feet firmly on the floor. It's aligning your spine and long column with your neck and your head right over the top of your spine. It's moving your posture, even if you're still sitting so that your feet are firmly on the floor. And so that you're you're sitting erect and then you take three deep breaths and it will help if you breathe into your belly. A lot of people breathe into their chest and that's very shallow breathing. And I call this the breath of life because it when you move it down into your belly when your belly expands on the inhale and then releases Exhale, it changes, it floods your body with oxygen. And I believe that it literally can add years to your life to do this. So if you take those three deep belly breaths and set the intention that you are centered, and call your energy back from anywhere that it was before this now moment, you can spool it up using like thinking of it as like you're, you know, rolling it up like a ball of yarn, or my girlfriend likes to say, she wants to slurp it up like a strand of spaghetti. It doesn't matter what you do, it's just a momentary thing, where you're not thinking about the meeting you had that morning, or the fact that you have to pick your kid up in an hour or whatever, you're just bringing everything back to center. And when you do that it takes it took longer to describe it than it would to take to do it, believe me, it's really it's it takes exactly as long as those three deep breaths, and then you'll find, you're now present. And another way of getting present that's really easy is go from the outside to the inside. So you want to look like at the coffee cup that's in front of you, or the desk that's in front of you, or the cell phone that's sitting there. And you want to just notice without any judgement all of the things around you, and then begin to turn your attention inside, check in with your body. How does your stomach feel? How is your breathing? Does any do any parts feel out of alignment? Can you get them back into alignment, and then you'll be able to turn further within if you would like but going from that outside in is another way to help be present. And a third way is to literally stop and smell the flowers focus on one thing, a totally mundane moment, like how does that rose smell? or What does that book cover look like? Or whatever it is that is like right there in your face in that moment that can help you to stay present and four or five or six of those moments every day. You will not be like my aunt standing there going where did the last 50 years ago, you'll feel all 50 of them one moment at a time.   Terry  12:17 Oh, that's great. Because I mean, I already feel that I already feel like where did all of that go? You know, we're just kind of getting Wait, I'm just getting up there. Roy always says, Yeah, she's not aging. I'm the one that's age. But now I already feel that, you know, we've we've got older parents that we're trying to you know, in that caretaking mode, not not living with them, but trying to get all the logistics down and all the family dynamics and all ever everybody's dealing with that that in a different way, you know? And we Yeah, I don't even know where was going with that. But you know, no, it's   Halle  12:58 okay. My mother in law moved in, and my mother in law moved in in February, she's Cuban. And it's a really weird, you know, it's like this, these two. I mean, I'm, I'm Lucy right and in, in in I Love Lucy and my Cuban family is like, you know, the Ricky ricardos Desi Arnaz. And I'm just like, I mean, and I live in Miami now. And it's like, I feel like this, you know, fish out of water. But when my mother in law moved in, there's other responsibilities that come in, you know, we're never going to be able to take a fast walk ever again. Well, you know, until she passes, and by that time, I'll probably be slow. I know. So it's like you're you, you know, we have to spend an extra, like, if we tell her to be ready at noon, we really have to tell her to be ready at quarter till, because she will have rushed around to get ready earlier in the day. But now she's sitting and taking her time. And if you say to her, you know it's time to go, then there's the 15 minutes of the things that she forgot to do and now needs to take care of just like you have to kind of adjust for all of that stuff. And it can feel I know I've a lot of clients who are caretakers for elderly people. And it can feel like such a slog, and such a stressor. And my mother in law, by the way is the easiest human being in the world to have living with us. She's an amazing housemate. But but there are differences. There are nuances. You're not you know, you can't walk around naked anymore. You know, there's there's just situations that are a little bit different. And for people who are taking care of elderly parents, or also you know, if they're taking care of, of disabled children, it's the same thing. It's like an ongoing thing, where you're always the caregiver, and who is going to take care of you. And a lot of people gain a lot of weight during that time, because they're eating emotionally because it's the only solace that they have under those circumstances.   Roy Barker  14:57 Yeah, the other thing I think, you know, kind of back a little bit in the conversation that we spend so much of our right this moment worrying about something in the future something in the past. And, you know, I, I will say that the science is pretty clear on the fact that our brains as complicated as awesome as they are, we can, you know, really deal with one thought at a time. And you know, when you're out to eat, if you're with somebody, you can either have a conversation and be focused with them, or you can be on your phone, but you can't be on your phone and be paying attention, or you get fragmented pieces. And so I think that's the other thing is that, you know, I feel like that's what makes our time go is that we're so future focused on, you know, I've got that report due next week. This is coming up. And another trick that I've kind of picked up over the years. Luckily, I learned this a long time ago, but it's just jot stuff down, because I don't have to be trying to retain it. And in the business world, there's a lot of people that you know, don't write list write list, and I think we have to do what helps us but always just don't feel like I have the worry and the stress, if I just get it down on paper, I can always go back and look at it instead of you know, instead of constantly playing it through your head, I got this at three, I got that if I got this tomorrow, write it down, you don't have to think about it again, just look at your paper.   Halle  16:26 Yeah, so I have three different sets of things, I have my calendar, which will keep my meetings and stuff. But I also have a if you saw my desk right now you would laugh, I have this crazy set of post it notes just like out in the middle like covering my desk. And those post it notes, keep Top of Mind stuff that I need to do like now. And every couple days, I'm like sorting through the post it notes and I'll throw away the ones that are done. And then I do I have like, I have a whole set of notes on my phone. And I love keeping notes on my phone because I can talk into it. And that, you know, and all of these things, the value of them is what brings you peace of mind. So for example, let's say that the post it notes, which kind of make my desk look messy, was my desk in my office, so I can do whatever I want. But let's just say that, that I had been raised to keep a really clean desk and to keep you know, and you know, and that I believed that an unclean desk was the sign of an unclean mind. Right, that was my story that I told myself, then the very system that I've got that would work, I would be telling myself that I would be feeling guilty every single time or wrong making myself wrong every single time by my very system. So the question isn't what system do you have? It's how do you feel? You know, a lot of people are like, we're, you know, they're like, a lot of people are into procrastination, right? They're, they're like, they'll put everything off. And I accomplish a Okay, a crazy amount. I really do. Like every two weeks, I'm with my accountability partner. And the list that we send back and forth of everything we've done the previous two weeks looks like what wouldn't take a normal person two months, how does that happen? It happens because I love it. And I love doing it. But that acknowledgment that very acknowledgement by having an accountability partner, by choosing to list out all the things that I've done over the last two weeks, that is a reward in itself. And then I have this great system that I love, I call it the cycle of success, I'm going to share it with all your peeps right now, because this is good for all of this stuff. And it will actually kill procrastination. The system is you take your big old to do list because what you're talking about ROI is like it reminds me of that scene in Harry Potter where like Dumbledore takes the wand and he touches it to his forehead and the thoughts come out and go into the pensive. So that's what we're doing. We're taking the thoughts out, we're like sticking them in the iPhone, right? That's our magical technology. So when you do that, you end up with this list that's like this, and then that makes you feel like crap every day. You know, everybody I know who wants to accomplish a lot has a never ending to do list. So what do you do to fix that you create what I call the empowered to do list and the empowered to do list is exactly three items long. And the rules are, you have to be able to accomplish all of the items in a single day. So the tasks have to be broken down into small enough increments that they're like your wet your list might your to do list might say redo my website, which you're empowered to do list would say contact the graphic designer to have the logo redone for example, because that's something that's a phone call, you could do that in one day. And then the second rule is that it can only have three things on it at a time. And the third rule is that at least two of them have to do what I call move the business needle. means return on my phone calls, check all my emails and, you know, write up an idea that I had, none of those are moving your business forward in that moment, right? So it's not the mundane stuff. It's just like the stuff that you intend to do, because we tend to have way too much going on at the same time. And then we feel like we never get anything accomplished. So you check your three items off on the empowered to do list, which you can do in one day, because they're set up that the tasks are small enough, how do we eat the elephant one bite at a time. So we have elephant bites on our empower to do list and then at the bottom of the empowered to do list is one last item reward. And now you can take whatever it is you were doing to procrastinate. check Facebook, for a half an hour binge watch two episodes of the show that I'm like madly in love with, go have a walk in the park, whatever it was that you were procrastinating with. I had one guy play Minesweeper for an hour. That was what he was doing to procrastinate when he moved it to his empowered to do list. As his reward, he would like come in, get all three things done immediately, and then just play Minesweeper for an hour. And then you can rinse and repeat with the next three items or rock on with your day knowing that you've accomplished things, right.   Terry  21:23 I remember hearing you talk about that on one of your podcast episodes. And I was like, I do I have I play this game two dots. It's mindless. Just I mean, yeah, right. laughs at me, but it helps. I don't know what I mean. It helps me kind of get my thoughts aligned sorta are in   Halle  21:47 it, Terry? It's not that don't don't No, no, just for any of this. It does. Because it's using it's giving your brain the parts of your brain that you're using to get stuff done. It's giving that part a break. It's like you've plugged your batteries into the wall by playing to.or listening to episodes of your goddess awaken. I am so happy.   Terry  22:12 Oh, behind I haven't. But we I love them. They're very   Roy Barker  22:17 it's the main you know, we're taking a digital break where the the lady is holding up the book that she's reading with the the phone inside? Yeah. Oh, yeah, I   Terry  22:28 do that. Like, oh, I'm gonna read   Halle  22:33 well, we The thing about the the thing about the empowered to do list that I love is it gives you permission to accomplish certain things. And then it Pat's you on the head and rewards you when you do it. The problem with the to do list is we will just go from thing to thing to thing to thing. And we're never getting we never feel like we're accomplishing anything, because we never pause to recognize that we have accomplished so much. So I mentioned my accountability partner earlier that when I write that list, oh my gosh, I have to I have to dig deep because it's like two weeks. Oh my gosh, what did I do? And I look and I Oh, I did that. And that and and that and that. And now I feel fantastic. And so even maybe just having an accountability partner can help make a big difference for you as well. The important thing though, to remember and this is this comes back to the you know, the purpose of your podcast, your your feeding Fatty, I think that is hysterical title, you're feeding fatty concept, that our bodies are not fat. Our bodies are a result of our fat brains. And our brains are fat because we lie to them all the time and tell ourselves how much we suck how wrong we are and what we're not doing right. So when you feel into the energy of does the system work? It's not does the system work? It's how do I feel about the system? How do I fit does this make me feel good people like I always tell people, why do I have bumper sticker coaching? Because it's small enough to fit on a bumper sticker and you'll remember it in an emergency and why is that important? Because if I tell you a 12 step brilliant process to fix something and you can't remember the first three steps now you feel bad, right?   Terry  24:34 Oh, yeah. Yeah, I love that bumper sticker coaching. Well, no. Well, here's   Halle  24:41 a sorry. reframe for you, Terry with with you. Just you just said Look, you're like oh, I'm listening to your goddess awakened for pleasure. I'm a little behind. Now you're feeling bad because   Terry  24:56 your mind I know. Right?   Halle  25:00 So so so that's not good either. So Okay, so here's here's, here's your reframe for feeling behind. Are you ready? I'm writing it down. Your reframe for feeling behind is to keep this mantra like close to your heart. I am exactly where I need to be right now. Because we're ever you are, that is exactly where you need to be right now. And we will make up all this stuff. Right? If I had come out with that podcast A month later, you'd be ahead. But I didn't like your mind.   Terry  25:35 But it's all arbitrary. No, and I was kind of upset because I just like, blew through them right away. You know, when we first talked a couple of months ago, I was like, Oh my gosh, and they're, they're just the right amount of time to because, you know, sometimes they can get long, but you know, 15 to 30 minutes ish. And with the bumper sticking, bumper sticking bumper sticker coaching, and oh, my God, I just blew through them. I was like, Where's the rest?   Halle  26:04 They're coming, they're coming. The long episodes are the hour long episodes, or if I have a guest, or if I do a trauma clearing for somebody live on the show, I allocate an hour because, you know, you can't just clear trauma and 30 seconds, however, in an hour, we can accomplish a real ton. So it's, it's I love the feedback. Thank you. Thank you so much. I   Roy Barker  26:28 really appreciate that. Yeah, we just listened this morning. I think it was the one on women empowerment, and you're stuck in bad situation. So this is the sisterhood. Yes. That is like the latest episode. Terry, you're all behind. And I thought it was interesting. The one thing I've always heard all my life is I'm not going to be spoiler alert, give it away, but I'll let people listen. But the one part you talked about a particular person that was married to another particular person. And you know, the old saying rings true that whenever you marry for money, you will earn it every day. I'm sure that she has. Yeah. Well, let's talk about let's talk about energy for a minute. Because, you know, for people that don't know, we talked to you a long time ago, we tried to do a taping for a business episode that I ended up vanishing. Like I Dream of Jeannie. And but the other thing that we've kind of done in between here is we went and did. Terry, you tell him you say what it was? Oh, no, I   Terry  27:40 want you to say because it sounds so good when you say Reiki. Reiki, yes, Reiki whatever   Roy Barker  27:47 that thing is, we did that. And it was it was amazing. Because I'm, you know, I'm a cowboy kind of guy. grew up here. I've been around here my whole life. And so I love you, Terry. Yeah, it really is. So me going to one of these things. It's it's, it was not out of my comfort zone. I was ready to travel. It's just not in my norm. You know that in the meditation and all that? Yeah. Anyway, I was just, I was mystified about, you know, the one thing she did was hold her hand over my head. And I felt like my head was on fire. I mean, the heat that she drew out of me or we had together or whatever, I don't know how that is. But then the other thing too, is like, I've got kind of a bad shoulder. When she started migrating, she went to the troubled spots on my body first. And just the whole thing was very interesting. I were I'm going to go back I think Terry has been back for her second round. But so let's what's what's your take on our and, you know, I know people think about like, our, our car mechanic energy, like, you know, if I'm putting negative stuff out and saying negative things about people, all that comes back to us, but, you know, there's also this energy and balance of just moving in life. Mm hmm.   Halle  29:09 Yeah. Oh my gosh, I love this topic so much. And I love that you are getting into this for yourself. Because, you know, this is what I was saying is this is there's so much more to life than just what we see like in front of us on a daily and it's such an opportunity to, you know, when we when we go down the rabbit hole of any kind of energy work, it's often just so powerful. And I'm gonna back up a second and and talk a little bit about why I feel that I have the right to discuss this because I think it's going to be important. So I was an atheist until I was in my mid 30s. And not only an atheist, but an atheist who had panic attacks about death, because I just thought there wasn't anything after my body ceased to exist. So that was like the most awful thing I could think of. And then when I went to Egypt for the very first time, I had a spiritual awakening. And that spiritual awakening took me from being an atheist into being this deeply spiritual. God is everything everywhere, God is like breathing person in a single breath. And it was like, so huge and powerful and amazing, singularly the most incredible moment of my life. So far, cuz I'm definitely open for more. And it really, that from that moment to this, I basically become a different person. And my work now is all about energy. And I mean, I have a background in theater and multimedia and real estate and travel. And now I coach and I use every single bit of it, what I use the most, that I didn't understand that I had, was my intuition. And I've come to the understanding that what we believe are our intuitive gifts, which we either have or don't have, is not true. Everyone has intuitive gifts, everyone is, is gifted in the same manner, however, to the extent that you were raised to shut that down, which a lot of parents shut the kids down, right, and your imaginary friend was probably, you know, an intuitive thing and may or may not actually have been in the room with you. And yet, your parents will tell you like, that's not okay, or, you know, shut that away, or you had a tendency to, you know, see dead people or whatever, I've heard all of the things from people who have been told, like, you know, they're there, it's like, you come into the world, and it's almost like you're wearing your, your skin on the inside and your nerve endings on the outside. And depending on who you are, and how you have been raised. That can, you can be told that that's a very bad not okay thing. And the world will shut you down just in general, because they, your, your school, your church, your government, whatever everybody wants you to walk the path that they have outlined, good or bad, I'm not judging anybody, I'm just saying, people don't like it, when you call her outside of the lines, it's confusing. And, and it can be very upsetting for people, especially people who are like more, you know, structure oriented. So all of that to say that we all are made completely of energy, like completely, and everything is energy. This, you know, this podcast is being broadcast from three different physical homes, everybody's got a different microphone, we all have computers, doesn't matter. All of that is also energy. And when you get into the physical atoms of what looks like a solid structure, like a table, it's, it's mostly made up of empty space. And the atoms in that empty space are the same atoms that make us up as well. And there is a difference, because you know, the table does not have a creative life force that that is sentience, but it does have the energy of the creative life force, so everything is energy. Now, I was wondering when you said Reiki whether I was going to talk about this, and I've decided to so I've never said this out loud before because it's not something that I like get paid to do. But I was told a couple of years ago that I am a Reiki Master. I've never studied Reiki However, when I'm in a hospital, my hands automatically just come up and go and do Reiki on people who are sick, and they get better. I've seen it happen often enough that I'm like, Okay, this is a thing, I am not making it up. And I believe that that gift expanded, because when I was in Egypt, having my spiritual awakening, I started blessing my food. So I would hold my hands up, and I would attempt to activate the energy in my hands with my thoughts, so that I could connect to my food. And if you ever hear me pray over a dinner table and I do pray over all my dinner tables, what it's what I say is, I'm so grateful and I'm grateful for the food made with loving hands and the food going from farm to table and as I do that I am energetically activating my hands connecting with that food because that food is full of atoms and molecules that make me up and when I claim that that is all turning into love and light in my body, it really will help me shift what you know what what we focus on expands. So when we spend all that time going on on the lips, a lifetime on the hips, what do you think that's doing to our bodies? Where is that chocolate cake going? Exactly. Whereas when you claim that it is turning into love and light in your body, when you are blessing it when you are connecting with it, and when you are deliberately present moment Terry enjoying it, it shifts how it processes in your body. Now, I don't understand all of it. But I understand that it is true. And my programming growing up was always don't eat that you're going to get fat, which is very confusing because Jewish families do this thing where on the one hand, it's don't eat that you're going to get fat. And on the other hand, it's Did you finish your dinner, you're going to get sick, if you don't eat all your food. Both of these things are going to this Did you know there were starving children in China. So all these things are going at the same time. And so you're gonna get really confused. And if you have strong personalities in your life, like I did, you get really confused. So I've spent my whole life going or any food that I put in my mouth, other than lettuce will make me fat. And I was guess what I was fat my whole life my whole life. When I was six, I was a size six, when I was eight, I was a size eight, when I was 12. I was a size 12. I thought that was how it went. I was sure by the time I was 16, I was about a 1416. And I stayed there until I was in my mid 40s when I finally came into a new understanding, which by the way was for me doing 12 step for food. And what I came to understand is that control is the master addiction. And when I learned that it didn't matter what else I did, as long as I gave the control over to my higher power. And once I started doing that, everything began to shift in my life in a really, really good way. And Roy, in my opinion, everything that I said everything. And everything we talked about all the throughout this entire conversation is all about energy, because it's what are you putting out in the world? And what do you expect to get back? Or do you think that that Reiki would have worked as well on you, if you had said this doesn't work? This is crap. As she put her hand on, you know, there's no way   Roy Barker  37:23 you had to, you have to have an open mind and be receptive. And it's it's funny, because I just wrote down the three words that as we started doing that I had had, I'd had one of the worst weeks that I've had in the last couple years. Like I had a one time on a Tuesday and a Thursday. And I went Thursday night and I almost didn't go because you know, I was just out of sorts, but I went. And so as she, as she started doing her thing, you know, I kept my eyes closed and was just kind of meditating. And it was like I was between sleep and consciousness. But I just that's called the theta state. Yep, yeah, I just might, it was all also to my chest just swelled up, I could just feel everything welling up in me. And then the three words that came to mind were patience, peace and strength. It was the most bizarre, you know, half because those are the words I needed to hear at that time. But I just felt, yeah, it was kind of like an out of body out of body experience almost that, anyway, that, that and the other thing that I've started doing when I meditate is you know, people kind of snicker about the old, you know, the picture of the person sitting there with their hands like that, but you know, what I have become to find is, that's, that's my antenna, or that's me, you know, I love it all bringing it all to me. And I just feel like I'm much more receptive if I can put my hands in that pose that it's like I'm welcoming in, you know, whatever God has given me at that time.   Halle  39:01 And the mudras, which are the different positions of the hands, each one actually has, and I couldn't tell you what each one has a different meaning. So when you see the pictures of the Buddha, and the Buddha is doing this, this is a giving and receiving pose of the Buddha's. So that's, that's this particular mudra and it is a mudra. But to but the normal mudros for meditation, you you bring your thumb and forefinger together in a circle, why are you doing that you are creating a closed circuit, so does a closed energy circuit that is allowing like a circular experience of energy where it goes out and it goes in and so you're having that flow, and then there are different mudros you know, like, some like like this one, or like two fingers up, and then the rest of the fingers close. Those are all different moods that you could use. And another thing that you can do To create that closed circuit, but also to allow the flow is to clasp your hands as well and turn them over so that your palms are facing up and sit with your hands in your lap like that. That's another way to create that antenna thing. It's not coming through your fingers, it's actually coming through your crown chakra. Right? And it's so it's the full of flow of that energy is coming through. I mean, it's too literal to say like looks coming from the heavens into the top of your head and going throughout your body. And yet, that's actually a really comforting way of thinking about it. And let me ask you about that what you said about welling up so you were talking about your like your heart welling up, did it feel like a bunch of emotions welling up? Or did it feel like your heart was very full, which was it?   Roy Barker  40:49 I think it was very full, it wasn't welling up emotionally. But it was just like, rap prior to these words coming to me, it was just like all the energy. You know, I don't know if it was that it's like, everything just kind of rushed up in here. And I just felt no puffed up empowered. Okay. Like, that's kind of like, you know, super how you think super great.   Halle  41:15 I love it. I love it. Okay, so Joe dispenza, who is a chiropractor turned brain scientist who loves all this stuff. Joe dispenza talks about this idea of what he calls heart coherence. And heart coherence is now he's he so he works with a company called heart math. And they will they do biofeedback. So they've actually done lots and lots of tests, because the tests they've done are too crazy. Like, if you weren't hooked up to machines that were empirically proving what he's saying, you'd be like, yeah, that's a bunch of crap. But they're there. They hook people up to the computers, and the computers record the information. And that's how they know. So for example, they did DNA tests. And this is at the beginning of the book, breaking the habit of being yourself if anybody's interested. Okay. Well, and you haven't read it yet. All right, well, okay. Now, so. So this is you're gonna, you're gonna be like, run, don't walk to this book at the after, after you hear the story. So the experiment that they did was they they took DNA strands, okay, now DNA strands are double helix, right? There's two that you can see, it's actually 12. But that's a whole other conversation. There's, so it's a double helix, the two intertwine strands, and they took these two intertwine strands, and they gave them in test tubes to people. And they asked people to set an intention to unwind the strands of DNA. I don't know if you've ever heard the expression, it's in your DNA. What does that mean? It's completely unchangeable forever, because you can't change your DNA. And that's like, what? Okay, so you shouldn't be able to do anything to change your DNA. Are we in agreement about that? Yeah. Okay. So he did three different groups, the first group, simply set the intention. The second group went into heart coherence, which is this feeling of flooding your heart with love, until it feels so full that it is about to burst sound familiar, Roy. And then the third group first experienced heart coherence and then set the intention of unwinding the strands of DNA. The first group, nothing, the second group, nothing asked me the percentage that the strands of DNA were unwound. And the third group that had both heart coherence and following that intention, what do you think the percentage of DNA that was unwound?   Roy Barker  43:43 100%.   Halle  43:45 And that would be less really cray cray? No, no, it wasn't that high. But it was 25%. way bigger than or no, but but it's 1%. You'd be like, that didn't happen, right? 10% you'd be like, no way. But 25% is obviously not a coincidence, right? It's not a placebo kind of an effect. So why did the DNA on wind by even by that 25% it was the combination of heart coherence and intention. So he says, you put your like to create intent to create a result that you desire to manifest something, you would fill your heart with love, feel all the puppies, you know, the yummy puppies in the world, all those kitten videos that you've ever seen, plus the person you were madly in love with before they broke your heart, all those yummy feelings, and then you set your intention for the thing that you want to manifest. So, Roy, what you said really reminded me of that because it is a precursor. When you feel like that when you feel like your heart is so full. It is a precursor to setting your intention now I can't see your stomach. I can only see your from the neck up. But you look like you're not.   Terry  45:07 What would you say?   Roy Barker  45:08 I said, that's by design. The camera   Halle  45:11 you, you look like you don't need to lose any weight. But let's say you still need to lose some weight. Okay? Right? Yeah, we can go, right? Okay. So the first thing to do is to set the intention of releasing, not losing, right releasing it. And the next thing to do is to combine your intention to release Why don't we want to lose weight because we want we'll have to find it again, we want to find the things we lose, you don't want that right. So we release the weight. And we do it, if you choose to, you could do it by creating that heart coherence, that feeling of everything is enjoy in in alignment, enjoy and my heart is so full, it could burst. And then seeing yourself visualizing yourself at your ideal weight. What happens though, instead and this, you know, the harv eker t harv eker says where intention goes, energy flows and results show that's his little expression, right? So but what we focus on expands right, if you want to, you know, you want to see in your minds, you can hold it in your hand. That's what my my crypto coach says. So I love all of those things. Thoughts are things right, Wallace wattles said that we when we when we talk about losing weight we're talking about we're making ourselves wrong. When we talk about how fat we are, we're making ourselves wrong when we talk about, oh, I'm eating this chocolate cake. And it's going to go right to my hips, we're making ourselves wrong. When all you do is focus on I am my ideal, perfect body weight. At the same time that you have that beautiful love filling your heart, you're combining this magnificent brain power that you have with your heart energy, to the visualization of your brain with the heart Love energy. And that's where the magic can really start to happen. So I just, I wanted to share all of that with you with your listeners, because I know from my own experience, but also from the AHA that I've had. I was at the I was at the dolphin cancer challenge, which is here at a Cancer Center in Miami. And I was there for like the fourth year in a row. And I've never gone back since because I got the message loud and clear that day. I looked up and there was a banner right over me and the banner said 60,000 people fighting cancer, and all of a sudden it just hit me like a ton of bricks. What if those 60,000 people were affirming perfect health? Who wants to fight cancer? First of all, it has the energy of cancer right in the words. Secondly, it's got the energy of struggle, right in the words, right? We are fighting the thing we don't want. What if we just focused on the thing that we do want? What happens when you water? The negative tree, it grows, what happens when you water the positive tree it grows. So the trick is starve the negative tree don't give it any energy. Because what happens to a plant that you don't give any energy to it dies. withers and dies. Know   Terry  48:37 that. Yeah, we still needed to hear that right now. Yeah, there have been there's been a little negativity.   Halle  48:45 We all get that, right. Look, there's two there's two things Terry, there's, there's what happens. And then there's how we react to what happens. And actually there's a third thing which is getting ahead of it. So that it it you can co create so that it always just happens positively. Right? However, sometimes stuff happens from the outside that is so far out of your control that you you or you weren't expecting it to the point where you, you couldn't get ahead of it. Now you still wait can't get ahead of it. Now you're like, Oh my gosh, I'm drowning. That's where you take those three deep breaths, you get present and you begin to say, like when we're in fear, doubt, uncertainty, unhappiness, negativity, any anger, whatever. get curious. Curiosity is an amazing tool. Hmm, I wonder why I feel like that. Hmm. I wonder if I could feel different. Could I allow myself to feel different? Would it be okay with me if I wasn't upset and the things still happen, right, we can have that whole interaction, right. And now your brain starts to shift out of the negativity because you've actually put it on. You're like, Come over here. Let's go over here and let's get onto this track instead of that really well worn One that you're so used to going down.   Terry  50:03 That's awesome.   Roy Barker  50:04 That's a great ending thought, I know I've got a, I know you've got a hard stop that I know you'll never take my call again, if we blow through that.   Terry  50:15 vapors.   Roy Barker  50:17 We could go on talking for a couple more hours, it's always a pleasure speaking with you. And so before we get away a couple things we always like to ask though, is, what is a tool or a habit. And I know that we've talked about a few but a tool or a habit that you use every day that really helps you in your personal life or your professional life, something that you just can't do without.   Halle  50:41 I call it working out at the spiritual gym. And to me, it's the habit of getting up in the morning, going into prayer, meditation, and for me, it's yoga stretching, if I don't stretch my body, it means my mind isn't going to stretch. So that's what I tend to do. That is what I tend to do and and I believe that whatever your practice is that you you can help yourself by working out at the spiritual gym and have another recommendation if we have a second   Roy Barker  51:16 we've got plenty of time. I brought a prop.   Terry  51:19 Okay.   Halle  51:20 Yeah, my, my new book neutral glamorous, how to feel beautiful inside and out. And a lot of what I'm talking about today, that bumper sticker coaching stuff and also on the tools to workout at the spiritual gym can be found in neutral glamorous, so I just wanted to I just wanted to really recommend that if people would like more help with that. And you can actually buy it on neutral glamourous neutral is en nu t Ri neutrik glamourous calm, or they can also buy it on Amazon. And I think by the time this airs, the audible book will be out the book will be out on Audible.   Roy Barker  52:03 Okay, so So tell us also, before we get away, tell us not about the podcast where we can find it. And then also, you know, I know that you do some coaching and other things tell us you know who you'd like to work with? How you can help them and then of course, how they can reach out and get a hold of you.   Halle  52:20 Oh, thank you. Well, I want to work with anybody who is looking for a giant transformation in their lives ready for that quantum leap. Maybe they've worked with other coaches, maybe they've been struggling with something for often their whole lives. I love working with people to help them I tend to focus on women entrepreneurs over 40 however, I have different types of clients that I work with, if you do go to my website, though, you will find that it is highly focused on the goddess energy. Sorry, I dropped my phone. And and you can go to the easiest way to get to my website is, is it's halleeavelyn.com but the easiest way to get there is to go to Halle mindset calm, because mindset is so much easier to spell than Eavelyn. So it's highly like Mary H A L L E and then Halle mindset calm. And when you're there, you can subscribe to get all the latest information about my books, my upcoming tours, I'm doing my next tour to Egypt in October, and which is a tour about balancing the sacred divine masculine and feminine. And then you can also get all the information about the podcast, the podcast is called your goddess awakened, I would type in your goddess awakened and my first name Holly, because there's so many goddess things that like you know, they suggest to you and the podcast is still so new. But it's on like 17 platforms. We're on iTunes as of like, I don't know, two weeks ago. And then it's also a show on YouTube. And you can subscribe on any platforms, you just go to your favorite podcast platform and type in your goddess awakened and Halle. And then hopefully that will come up for you. And then please subscribe on the site. Also, there is a free gift on the site right on the front page called three keys to slay your inner critic. So pick that up for yourself as well while   Roy Barker  54:17 you're there. Oh, yeah. All right. Awesome. Well, thank you so much for taking time out of your day. It's always a pleasure and you'll have to come back. We got plenty to talk about. that's gonna do it for us for another episode of feeding fatty Of course. I am Roy.   Terry  54:32 I'm Terry. Holly. Thank you so much. This has been great.   Roy Barker  54:36 You can find us on all the major podcast platforms as well iTunes, Stitcher, Google Spotify. A video of this interview will go up on YouTube when it goes live as well. We're on all the major social media networks. So until next time, take care of yourself and take care of your health. Bye www.halleeavelyn.com www.feedingfatty.com

Feeding Fatty
Managing Stress Is Important To Achieving Emotional and Physical Wellness

Feeding Fatty

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 20, 2021 46:38


Managing Stress Is Important To Achieving Emotional and Physical Wellness with Elizabeth Di Cristofano It was such a week such a hectic, exhausting week that, I think it is building into the day today. But, you know, we we have the control over it. It's how literally how we could talk now we talk to ourselves with switch that mindset of Yes, we're having a crappy morning, but you know, what we have the rest of the day. About Elizabeth As a Functional Medicine Certified Health Coach, Elizabeth sets out to inspire women, specifically women over 40, to take back their life and vitality by getting to the root cause of their overall health. Health and wellness has been in Elizabeth's world for the last decade and has evolved as soon as she turned 40. Elizabeth's career was mainly in the apparel corporate world, working for companies including a New York designer brand and a Fortune 500 company. A career that was not sustainable and in the midst of her starting her own health journey she experienced burnout. Taking on a mind/body approach, Elizabeth started incorporating optimal nutrition, meditation, journaling, daily workouts and movement and practicing setting boundaries all in which helps her thrive in everyday life.  But that was not always the case in her life. She battled an eating disorder when she was 15 which showed back up again recently and is just now in recovery. Elizabeth started building her own business in her forties and offers her services as a Health Coach to help high achieving and high performing entrepreneur female 40-60 years old who needs to operate at peak state in order to meet the high demands of corporate, family and social life – an area in which she is really familiar with. She is a host of an alternative health and wellness podcast called The Root Of Our Health, which ties in with her mission of changing behaviors by empowering entrepreneurial women in their 40's and beyond to know their self worth! Even her message at the end of every podcast episode is “You are worth it” Her motto she lives by is love, laughter and to live la dolce vita! Elizabeth Di Cristofano Website The Root of Our Health Podcast Listen to more great episodes of Feeding Fatty here www.elizabethdicristofano.com www.feedingfatty.com Full Transcript Below   Managing Stress Is Important To Achieving Emotional and Physical Wellness with Elizabeth Di Cristofano Sat, 5/29 10:17AM • 46:16 SUMMARY KEYWORDS stress, thinking, elizabeth, people, happening, adrenal fatigue, podcast, adrenal, thyroid, day, throw, talking, hard, eating, functional medicine doctor, good, feel, test, amazon, deal SPEAKERS Terry, Elizabeth, Roy Barker   Roy Barker  00:05 Hello and welcome to another episode of feeding fatty This is Roy necessary. So we are the podcast of course we are journey chronicling our journey through this wellness through eating better exercise, getting more exercise, reducing stress, all those great things that we need to do in order to live a more, you know, happy fulfilled, healthier life. And so also too from time to time we have guest on and after the morning we've had we had to make emergency phone call to Elizabeth and I'm gonna let Terry in very introducer   Terry  00:41 Elizabeth DiCristofano know sets out to inspire women as a functional medicine as functional medicine certified health coach, specifically women over 40 to take back their life and vitality by getting to the root cause of their overall health. Health and Wellness has been an Elizabeth world for the last decade and has evolved as soon as she turned 40. Elizabeth started building her own business in her 40s and offers her services as a health coach to help high achieving and high performing entrepreneur, female's 40 to 60 years old. She's the host of an alternative and wellness podcast called the root of our health which ties in with our mission of changing behaviors by empowering entrepreneurial women. You are worth it is her motto, Elizabeth? Thank you. Oh my gosh, do we need you? We need you. Oh especially today, I was not good today.   Roy Barker  01:37 It was funny because I know you like to talk about stress. And then you know, before the show we were talking about I think we all had a rough week and then for some of us this morning has started off just where we left off yesterday was like Okay, let's deal with this stress. So we don't run the rest of our day and we don't run the rest of our our health and wellness.   Elizabeth  01:59 Yeah, yeah, no, and I you know, like you said, it started started out that way so minded too. I you know, it was such a week such a hectic, exhausting week that, you know, I think it is building into the day today. But, you know, we we have the control over it. It's how literally how we could talk now we talk to ourselves with switch that mindset of Yes, we're having a crappy morning, but you know, what we have the rest of the day. So how are we going to spend it? So yeah,   Roy Barker  02:34 yeah, you know, I'm, I'm gonna mute. I'm gonna I'm gonna mute Terry. So jump in here. But yeah, for the last, you know, 30 minutes or an hour, it's just been terrible. And, you know, I think that same thing, I think, I don't want this to ruin the rest of my day. I've got other stuff because you know, when it's just seems to just have piled on. And so what I want to do when it piles on like that, is of course, I just want to sit down and find something to eat is not, that is not the way to handle that. And so, you know, that's part of what we are, I'm gonna say me, that's part of what I'm working on, is trying to figure out, okay, you know, this has happened, I can't go back and change it, it's gonna mess up the trajectory of my day, and probably the weekend, so you know, how to deal with it. One thing I have found is that's interesting is sometimes when we go through these, it happens for a reason that we come out on the other end, and we're like, Okay, I'm better off than I probably would have been had things happen the whale, but as we're going through it, you know, that is just difficult. That's not an easy thing to think about.   Elizabeth  03:46 Yeah, no, and you're right, right. It's like, you know, going through it. You're, you're you're wondering, Well, what the hell is going on? You know, why? Why am I doing this? Why am I feeling this, and sometimes you just surrender to, to like the foods and surrender to things because you're so freakin tired. And you're so like, you're just you're just wanting to, you know, like, get get away from that pain, really. So that's what happens is when media stress, we're not thinking clearly, we're just surrendering to whatever is coming up in our lives. You know, and it's tough. It is tough. And now you your Outlook, though, of, you know, getting out on the other end, seeing seeing a different light of, you know, the reason why it happened. That's a good outlook. A lot of people don't even have that a lot of people have this, like, Oh, well, you know, it happened to me, it happened, you know, and it's just a loss. But understanding you know, things do happen in our lives, whether it's stressful or or great. That you know, sometimes you got to go through that pain to understand the good. Yeah,   Roy Barker  04:58 yeah, and it's the way You know, when you're in the moment, it's, it's hard,   Terry  05:03 hard to break. And yeah,   Roy Barker  05:04 you know, now once I kind of like came through, and it took a couple deep breaths, and that's something I've learned too is over the last month or two, you know, we've done the Riki wreck, whatever it is, whatever that word is, you know, we've done that we've tried to do more meditation, have some quiet time, even just for a few minutes to be more one. And so you know, realizing what's going on, taking four or five deep breaths to try to you know, rebalance and recenter is good. But you know what, I guess one thing that's frustrating for me, and it's my own fault, because I have so much that needs to be done. But it's like, okay, I really didn't have time to do stuff that I need to do today, tomorrow and the next day. So now, I'm going to take for things I should have been doing or needed to do today. And I'm going to push them out two days when didn't have enough so that some of that is self inflicted, I get that. But then on the other hand, it's like, it's just, it's things that need to be done. And it's not, you know, it's not like a choice, like, you know, I was gonna paint the fence today and say, Okay, well, I'm just not gonna do that. I mean, these are, to me, they're critical deadlines that just have to be met. And there's no, you know, the only way to do that, and then this is where I really go out of control, because then the next thing is the eating, then the next thing is staying up till two in the morning trying to get it done, and then you're tired. And then you want to eat, I want to eat more for fuel to wake me up. Anyway, that's a bad sign. Like,   Elizabeth  06:38 yeah, it is a vicious cycle. But let me ask you a question is this are these tasks, like, the hard tasks that you don't want to do? Are these you know, or these things that you find fun?   Roy Barker  06:53 Well, if, if things went right, it's fun. Okay, when things start to go bad, it's when they become not fun and become drudgery. And then, I have to admit, and then you wake up the next day, kind of, you know, all balled up, like, what's gonna, what's gonna happen today, and then it's like, do I even want to start down this path and like, get, you know, get hit in the head with somebody throwing rocks at you, when I could just not do anything. But that's not an option. I mean, it's stuff I'm got to do so. So both. So   Elizabeth  07:31 you know, and the reason why I asked him because that's, that's our, that's our default. When we have hard things, you know, we have a to do list, right. And we have these very hard thing door is that even hard, but it's like things that are, you know, if we have a creative mind, and these are just like, the processes and the things that we're not loving to do, um, we tend to kind of put them off, just because obviously, we don't love them. But what ends up happening, obviously, it's just like, goes and goes and goes, Okay, I'll do that tomorrow. I'll do that tomorrow. And then we procrastinate. And then until, like you said that last minute that you really, truly need to get it done, because it's a deadline, then you're stressed out, then you're like, eating, trying to stay up cuz it is a deadline, right? Before what I learned is that doing those hard things, or doing the things that don't like to do first, right, to get them out of the way? And yes, you know, sometimes, like you said, things could go wrong, and it has, especially if you're, you know, doing something that's technology bound, you know, it's like, something can't Yeah, right? Something can go haywire. And all of a sudden, that one hour that you you, you know, put on your calendar for that one task is now two or three hours. Yeah, that gets frustrating, right? Yeah.   Roy Barker  08:53 And that is the I think that's what kills me more than not wanting to do stuff because like I said, if, if I could just do it, and work through it, I'm really good with that. And I don't mind it. But what happens is, you know, just we can use today as an example. You know, we wake up, got woke up. About that's the worst. Yeah, this morning, I was thinking, Oh my gosh, we might get to sleep in a little bit. You know, we get a call from the Amazon delivery guy. And then, you know, while I'm up trying to sort this out, they just throw the package out at somebody else's house. So now spent, you know, 3045 minutes on the phone dealing with them, not going to get the thing and then of course, you know, we have some technical issues trying to even get this call up again, then it just you know, it's frustrating because I hate to waste our guests time and that's, that is my you know, I don't like to waste our time and we're tight schedule, but man when it bubbles over and affects somebody else out of my sphere, then you know that I hate that because, you know, I know that you Your time is by and your your very gracious, you haven't lost that. make that clear. You came home with a smile and did everything he needed to do, but I'm just saying it's just, uh, you know, and the good news is, I think we can we can say this now is that, you know, we were having some terrible internet issues for the last, I don't know, month, month and a half where, you know, we actually had a few episodes that we just had to quit taping mid conversation because the quality was terrible. So anyway, we finally got a new cable placed in the house and we got it turned up last week. But then again, it's been it's had consistent problems, you know, every day, when it works, it's awesome. But you know, when it does and then you know, at&t wants me to spend an hour or two on the phone with them trying to troubleshoot and so you know, that just it just, I guess it just starts compounding you know, with people. It's I it's not that they want my time frivolous frivolously it's just that they need my time, which is fine, but it's like I had zero time in my calendar today to mess with Amazon and to mess with 18th it was just weren't even on my radar. And now they have taken over my entire morning so far.   Elizabeth  11:20 Yeah. And that's, that's that's the thing, you see external. Relax with the better word crap that you noticed. It's like, you weren't expecting that. It's something that Okay, now you just woke me up out of the, you know, of something that I was trying to relax, right. So that external stress just came at you and of all things that didn't even turn out. Right. So if you've got the package, then I can see it being like, Okay, well, you know, it was it was for something, but it was nothing. Yeah. And then you still have to contact them to reorder I'm sure. And I mean, I've been there. And I think that's the The other thing we were talking about off off off camera was that, you know, I, again, I was I actually order two things. And those two things said attempted delivery. Well, no, I have to and I did already twice go back out to read deliver and they read delivered and still says   Roy Barker  12:24 attempted Oh my gosh.   Elizabeth  12:29 I'm stupid post office. But I I'm just saying you know, I get it. I get it. It's like those things to where you have a lot on your plate, you have your schedule full. And all of a sudden these outside stressors come to you. And it's like, I can't deal with you people. Yeah, you guys are just ruining my day ruining my world. And it's it's frustrating, but how are you? How are you dealing with it? Like, are you? Are you using your meditation at all for this? And   Terry  13:01 you? Well, different types of meditation   Roy Barker  13:07 was more using my Tourette's I think at the time. Yeah, well, you know, the reality is it was still bubbling over, like, you know, right when we were getting on this call. So that's part of the deal. I just haven't had time to deal with it. And you know, what I will say, at this point is like, you know, when you actually start verbalizing this, then you become like, Oh, my gosh, you mean I'm wasting my time even thinking about this, because, you know, it's like, it's kind of like the, it's like really is at the worst problem mean, there's people that are sick, there are people that are have financial issues. You know, they're people that are in accidents, or, you know, there's all kinds of Mayhem going on in the world, and you're frustrated about my Amazon package didn't get here,   Terry  13:53 and then you start thinking about the guilt. These other people are going through all this stuff. And then the guilt piles, I don't know if that's the mom thing, or that's the dad thing. I don't I don't know.   Roy Barker  14:04 It's just a thing, because I'm old enough to remember when you actually had to get in the car and go to the store to buy stuff. So now like, Okay, well, I was too lazy to get in the car to go buy this thing. So I ordered it for delivering and now I'm worried that I'm not gonna, you know, I'm not gonna get it for 24 more hours. It's   Terry  14:24 so like, on demand. Yeah, and everything on demand. Right now drive thru service. Yeah.   Roy Barker  14:30 And, you know, again, when you're going through that you don't think about it but having a minute to take a break and really, you know, talk with y'all to is like, Oh my God, this sounds so corny, but I'm sure there are other people that are going through it as well.   Elizabeth  14:44 No, and you know, it's, it's the it's the times right. And that is why stress is like huge. It's a huge epidemic. Now it's because we want everything now. And no matter I'm I'm Gen X as well. So I know all about your the Hard times not the hard times the just the times where we actually had to have pick up a phone that's in your house and you didn't have a cell phone. You didn't have you didn't have these things deliver tea, you actually had to go out and especially I'm from, you know, Chicago, in the snow. You know, getting tracking in like Orpheus No, not really, I'm being dramatic, but, you know, just just picture that just picture like the kids and people nowadays try to do what we were doing back then. But it is I mean, but it switches your brain like that to it. See, it's the, like you said on demand, give me Now give me now I want it now. And when you don't have it, it's like, Ah, that's it. My life is over.   Roy Barker  15:45 Right. Exactly. Yeah.   Elizabeth  15:49 So there's one one thing I wanted to mention that to kind of keep going on this, but you mentioned that, you know, our problems aren't really, you know, big problems. You know, like, of the world of, you know, like, there's a lot of people suffering, there's a lot of people, and it goes through and through difficult things. I was just listening to a podcast, and it was one of these. Um, I don't know if you heard of Tim Ferriss, but podcast? Yeah, yeah.   Terry  16:17 I've been on a kick this week.   Elizabeth  16:19 Right. Okay, good. So I don't know if you've heard this one. But it was with a I don't know his name offhand. But basketball players, he's a big time basketball player. And he just mentioned that, you know, when you throw because, you know, we're all complainers, right? We all complain, complain. So when you throw your complaints on the table, and you have everybody else share their complaint, you quickly like, Oh, I'm gonna take this back. It's like that what you guys are going it's like, you know, 10 times worse or 100 times worse. And if we're not comparing, but it's understanding that you know, what, we've got a good we got we got a good, so it's more or less, like getting the energy out of what we're feeling. And they'd be like, Okay, I'm done, then, you know, then we can go on. But yeah, yeah,   Roy Barker  17:13 I think that's it sounds like a, I guess now I feel like I've thrown my tantrum. And I'm gonna try to, you know, pick up and move on. Yes, let's try to pick me up off the floor and say, Hey, quit throwing your gun along here. Hey, we all do it. You know, so I've read something that was really, it was really, to put things in perspective the other day, because it was a, I guess it was a lady that was just talking about, you know, how these seniors this year have had it so bad, and all of the stuff that's going on, and they miss their dances, and I get that in a senior, you know, when you're that age in that world? Yeah, it's a big thing. But then somebody replied to her is like, Well, I was telling my husband about this. And he said, Well, yeah, but you know, for those of us that graduated from 1964, to 1970, our senior trip was to Vietnam. And so I was like, wow, yeah. Yeah, you know,   Terry  18:17 yeah. Yeah. Just trying to find perspective is, and and when you're going through it, like, you don't really think about, think about sitting there and just being with the issue, and risk, you know, just just being with it. It's afterward when you're like, Oh, well, I just wasted all that time, then you think, Oh, my God, I just wasted all that time. So what, you know what now? Now, I'm mad that I wasted the time thinking about it. Well, there's a reason for that. Okay, what is it a loser? I'm gonna tell you.   Elizabeth  18:53 So what happens when we're stressed out like that is, it's called the amygdala hijack. So what happens is your amygdala is the one that processes all the information, you know, stress response, you know, stuff like that, like all of these, you know, basically, your smart brain, your smart area, right? And what happens is it just shuts down. So you don't think clearly, when when you have you know, when you're either angry or just stressed out or something like that. And then what happens is your cortisol levels go up, your adrenaline goes up. So when your brain shuts down in your journal goes up, that you're not thinking properly. You're not you're not you're just going through what you want to get achieved at that moment. Right. And, you know, it's like from a long time ago, this is what happens to fight flight or freeze, like, really the fight or flight is from the olden times of Paleolithic times where saber toothed Tiger runs after you What are you going to do? Either you're going to fight it or you're going to you're going to flee. You're going to run So that is where now the saber toothed Tiger is our stressors like that Amazon dies, your stressor. So you're, you're fighting it, you're you're putting all your energy in fighting this, this one stress. And so your amygdala is shut down, and you're not really thinking clearly until it just, you know, you rest that you are calming down after. And then you're like, oh, okay, I shouldn't, you know, I should have said this, I shouldn't have done this, you know, blah, blah, blah. So that's what's happening is, when you have that, that stress response versus that rest and digest, it's kind of like you're doing, you're going your action, and then you're actually thinking about afterwards. So,   Roy Barker  20:43 so what can help us slow our roll, though? Or is there anything that can, you know, help us from going from like, you know, zero to 60. And then spending that time going through that, and then trying to come back down? I mean, that because that's what I was thinking are very, is just, you know, if I could have just not launched on these numbers, like, like, multiple things is like, kept coming, kept coming. And, you know, it's like that, and then that doesn't help that escalates it, because then I'm thinking, not only my thinking about these issues to deal with and process and figure out, but then it's like, Okay, well, I have these other four things on my schedule this morning that I am not addressing at all. So that's the, I think, you know, for me, that's what I want to figure out is just like, recognizing that in the beginning, and maybe I should have done it, maybe I need to be more conscious of that emotion climbing and just say, Okay, I gotta step away, sit down and just do my little 10 minute, you know, meditation or breathing?   Elizabeth  21:47 Well, you said it right there. I mean, it's, it's not it's not easy. I, you know, I mean, we all go through it just because it's, it is it piles up, you get overwhelmed, and it's like, you know, I have this, this and you're thinking in the future, right? You're, you're thinking you're going through your present, you know, turmoil or stress, you're thinking of what's happening? What, how is this going to affect the future? And that's even causing more stress, right. So you just mentioned, you know, stepping out of it, and kind of getting into maybe, breathing, you know, breathing. So when we breed, we kind of, you know, slow it down. It's easier said than done. You know, people think, Oh, you know, I breathe every day. But when you get stressed out what happens? You don't, you Your, your breathing is shallow and or you don't read, so yeah, stop. And like, when you're talking to that guy, or when you know, or female or whomever, as they're talking, instead of thinking about it, kind of be mindful of how you're reacting to it. And then taking a deep breath while they're talking, whatever they have to say, and then kind of like, address the issue. So that's, you know, it's, again, it's being mindful of the situation before it takes control of you. Yeah, um, again, it's easier said than done. But you know, practice, we have to practice it, it's all   Terry  23:17 well enjoy you. You are really, I have to give you kudos, because you are really good at helping me recognize when that is happening to me. And it happens a lot, because I just, especially with technology, I am not I just do not have a technological brain at all. And I want it to work like it should. Like I think it should, yes, but but you I mean, you're you are always Okay. Take a deep breath, step back, let's evaluate the situation. You need to be kinder to yourself, and maybe offer yourself a little grace in that process.   Roy Barker  23:57 Yeah, it's it's hard. And I but I think it's like, it's like the, it's like eating or, you know, it's like, I think we talked before about you know, that one time that I just kind of, I was working and then hates I woke up because I was awake. But it's like, the realization came up that well, I'm standing here at the cabinet with my hand in these, this was, luckily was chickpeas, it wasn't chips, but I'm standing here with my hand in a bag of something, do I really need that. And so I think that mindfulness or being in tune with yourself translates into these situations is you kind of have to feel yourself in that escalation and try to, the sooner we can get to it, the better off we are, to mitigate it instead of you know, letting it get to the point where I was while ago just totally out of control. Because then it's a lot harder to it's a lot harder to make that turn and then the other thing I was gonna say is that you know, I've got some good advice, one time from From my priests, then he just, we were talking about the mindset and stuff. And he just said, Look, it's our choice. What we, you know, our mind is a grinder, and it's our choice of what we grind. And that's a, it's a good analogy. So what I'm trying to think of now is like, instead of grinding on this Amazon and 18 t thing all day, you know, I've got to somehow get past that. And think about all the other great stuff that's going on, you know, the other opportunities, focus on the good stuff.   Elizabeth  25:31 Yeah, no, that's exactly it is you hit it on the head, because it's, it's how you how you think, you know, determines how you feel, and you've determined your actions, right? So as you keep thinking, the negative, you know, and being angry, and all of that, that's gonna, it's gonna go throughout your day, and it's gonna also whatever you touch or whatever, you know, things happen. They're going to be negatively there. So so you know what I'm saying? Like, say, for example, you're, you're still going right? You're still you know, kind of, you know, on that that stressed moment, and then after this call, you're still stressed? Well, what do you think is going to happen, these are going to stay stressful for you, because you're, that's your, that's what you're thinking what you think you attract. So you're going to attract, stressing, you know, situations, and you're just gonna be like, Oh, my God, this day just sucks. That's it. But ya know, your, your previous was right on and having, it's kind of like pulling, pulling yourself outside of that situation, you're kind of looking in a different perspective. And like, kind of overhead and seeing, like, kind of an out of body experience. I've seen what you're, you know, how you are, how you're clenched up, how you're physically, how you're speaking how you're mentally? And then it's kind of like, Okay, well, I don't have to be this way. And doing like you said, that choice. So yeah,   Roy Barker  27:05 yeah, then the other thought is about the wasted time. And this is what I'm gonna try to think of next time. It's like, I can waste this hour or so, you know, being upset. And then, you know, kind of have one of these revelation moments where it's like, well, in the scheme of life, it's really not that big a deal. And we can't change it. So there's no use worrying about it, it's done. Let's move forward. Trying to think that earlier in the event, because then it's like, we don't have to waste. You know, there's no use wasting that time being upset, but I can feel it. Like, it just starts in your stomach. And so many people say everything, you know, most 80% of our stuff starts in a slump, like I feel it starting there. And it just like rushed up, you know, through my chest and into my head. You could just feel the pressure. You know, it's just like a pressure cooker of boiling water, I guess. Yeah. Physically. Yeah. You know, 10 stuff. Yeah. So then you have to think about, you know, having to think about how to fix Terry because she said, No, we're, you know, six feet. So I know that she was like, Oh, my God, do I need to do I need to run inflammatory? You know, what am I gonna do here? But then also those poor people on the other lady on the on the Amazon, I was pretty nice to her. I'm like, you were very nice. I told her. I said, Tell your drive to get it. Right. And that way, you don't have to talk to crazy people. Like   Elizabeth  28:29 that's a good thing, knowing that that, you know, she couldn't really it's not her fault.   Roy Barker  28:34 Yeah. And that's the unfortunate part is, you know, most of the time, we tend to take it out on people that are closest to us, or that really can affect I mean, you know, they just they can't so yeah, anyway, trying to recognize that earlier, so just don't have to go through all this because I can only imagine like, what does that do to our insides? Yeah, you you've been doing good said segue. You've been? You've mentioned adrenal adrenal glands. You just did a four part series on your podcast.   Elizabeth  29:08 Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, it does. Physically, you know, in your body. It does a lot to you. So the reason why I bring up adrenal, adrenal is and and actually more specifically Adrenal Fatigue is because that is what I actually went through. Two years ago, I mean, I am a high stress person, I'm, it is what it is, I'm, you know, type a, you know, control freak, all of that. So, I'm a high stress person. So what I'm teaching, usually I need to learn, right? That's what you tend to do. You tend to teach what you really need to learn yourself and going through the process going through, you know, all of these things. So, so yeah, two years ago, um, you know, I was going, I don't know what I basically I put a lot of stress on myself. So one thing is is, you know, there was Outside stressors I was just doing, I was trying to get a business going. And I was putting a lot of stress on myself. And it was at the same time when, you know, I was like, I was 41. And I'm and I just started getting bloated and getting irritable, crying all the time. I'm yelling, like yelling at my husband, and just just overall, like, my face was puffy. Um, I was feeling exhausted after my workouts. So I was like, okay, something is going on. And I and I felt that at my age, I was a little too young to have perimenopause. So then I was like, Alright, I heard about this thyroid thing. Let me you know, let me go to a doctor and check it out. Now, I don't know if I spoke about this before. But, um, I didn't want to go to an allopathic Doctor Doctor, like a regular, you know, conventional doctor, just because, from what I heard, they don't do a thorough fiber test. Like, you know, you if you're the baseline, you're okay, you're, you're there's nothing wrong with you. But I know I knew better. So I went to the functional medicine doctor and got the thorough thyroid panel done. And he basically said, You have adrenal fatigue. And, you know, the symptoms that, you know, showed up and showed up in my life, like, for the longest time was low blood sugar. So I would think I would, you know, get dizzy after, you know, standing up and doctors took, you know, the test, and they're like, you have low, low blood sugar, nothing   Terry  31:31 like, Okay,   Elizabeth  31:32 and then low blood pressure. So all of that is low. So what ends up happening is when you're stressing out your body, and my, my doctor told me this, but you have these reserves, your adrenals basically sit there small glands that sit on your kidneys, right, and they're on the upper and upper abdomen. And what happens is, when you're when you get that stress your thyroid, you get low thyroid, and then what happens is you're you're stressing out your adrenals. And then you're, it's just basically depleting your adrenal and your adrenals are there to kind of keep you like energy and all of that stuff. So I was depleting everything. And not only was it because of the stress was because I thought, you know, doing the hard workouts, high intensity was, you know, was good. It was supposed to relieve your stress, right? If you do hard and high intensity workouts, while you're going through this, it's actually stressing your body even more, and that's why I was exhausted. So that is why when you get stressed out chronic stress Now I'm not saying you know, like the acute stress is that you can, you know, have ever known them. But if you have chronic stress day in and day out. And this has to do not only physically what you're doing to your body, but mentally what you're telling yourself, and that's why we were talking, what you say to yourself is, you know what ends up happening as far as actions go. So it really depleted in my body into where I literally had to get off of caffeine, and I'm still on caffeine. And I, you know, had to change my diet. I was, you know, I was on this other diet that it was so stupid. I was on that carnivore diet. It was stupid. It was like one of the things that I said, you know, somebody on Instagram was a lady. Oh, yeah, you know, I cured my bloating this or something like that, my IBS. And I'm like, Oh, well, I'm bloated. Maybe I could try that. It was stupid. Anyway, so um, the reason why I say that is because I was the nutrients you know, that I needed in my body that I actually wasn't digesting, either. So your digestion is, when you're stressed, obviously is not going to be on point because you're eating quickly. You're not you know, being mindful of what you're eating. So I was always eating in front of a, you know, computer, it's stressed out because my job was stressful, yada yada, yada. So your digestion is is not as poor. And so then I had to get you know, digestive enzymes and you know, all of this stuff. And finally, I was like, I was like, I was great afterwards. So what um, yeah, so what ends up happening is your stress levels can affect and does affect its product stress and don't get it, you know, checked out and astruc excuse me distract your hormones. So your thyroid and your adrenals all of those. It definitely takes a toll on them.   Terry  34:33 So were you so were you diagnosed with hypothyroidism? it?   34:39 Oh,   Terry  34:39 I you know,   Elizabeth  34:41 I wasn't per se but it does go hand in hand because your thyroid and your adrenals are like brother and sister glands. So if you have hypothyroidism you for sure have adrenal fatigue or and then even worse adrenal, so there's adrenal fatigue and adrenal insufficiency and So again, if you don't get that adrenal fatigue checked out, chronic adrenal fatigue can lead to adrenal insufficiency, which I don't know if you guys have heard or maybe research, there's a thing called Addison's disease. And that is where, again, if it's a, you know, chronic it can get to that point to where you're just   Terry  35:19 laying on the floor, you know,   Elizabeth  35:21 you have nothing. I mean, you have nothing in you know, so yeah, there. I'm kind   Terry  35:27 of there. And I have taken levothyroxine for probably 20 years. I mean, I, I quit taking it for about a year and a half, two years. I mean, I just took quit taking all of my medication, and then I lost a bunch of weight. And I don't know how big Well, I do. I did I wasn't eating junk, as much. Anyway, I was eating some but yeah. And then, and then I started taking it again. And I don't know, I am just exhausted all the time. I don't feel well, physically, I just feel I it's just, we're just at where and we're at work, we're kind of going through a hard time, you know, stay in on our diet. We tried, we tried to start eating plant based and trying to get back into that mode. It's like, you know, we had one bad day and then led to another one and another one. It's like, Oh, forget it thrown in the towel. I mean, what we can get back on it. But I am, I am definitely tired. I'm thinking I may need to go do the,   Elizabeth  36:34 you do need to you do that test. I I recommend for anybody really, um, even at checkout kind of thing, because you don't know. And I, you know, I never knew that I was I had no vitamin D in me none. So it was, you know, obviously digestion and everything. So yeah, get that thyroid, you know, test into the full thyroid test? because that'll go through, I forgot what, you know, I'm not a practitioner. So I don't know exactly. You know, the difference of what they leave out, all I know is that there are certain things that kind of go deeper into your thyroid, and you know, checks a little bit. It, you know, more in the full thyroid panel.   Terry  37:23 I'm gonna have to do that. That's, um, that's, um, that's on my list. I'm putting it at top.   Elizabeth  37:28 Yes, do that. And just, you know, if you can't see a functional medicine doctor, that's fine. You can actually do it at home. But you know, there are I don't know, you know, offhand the best. You know, companies out there that do this, I know that there are some that are safe, that are very thorough. And I think, um, once you get that done, you definitely have to have it kind of, you know, go through with, like a practitioner or somebody even, you know, I can I do it too. As a health coach. I'm kind of, you know, walkthrough of what each, what each thing means. Okay, yeah,   Terry  38:12 okay. Well, I'm doing it. I'm doing it. Don't laugh. What are you laughing? No, that's good. You need to do yeah.   Elizabeth  38:21 And that's a good baseline, you know, it's understanding what is off. I mean, you can be, you know, either estrogen dominant and you don't know that you could, you know, again, have all these vitamins that you think that you're getting, because you're plant based and you're not, your digestion couldn't be off. So a lot of things that, you know, we think that we take for granted. We don't know, I think this This test will definitely open your eyes and tell you.   Roy Barker  38:50 Okay, awesome. All right. Well, good. Well, I know we've run way over Elizabeth, so much. Yeah, no, I was gonna say, we, that's why we have had you back on again, because I think we ran we bumped up against some time last time. A couple things before we let you go. We we didn't really get to get the particular. So Terry, Terry told me that you had somebody on a special guest on one of your recent shows that we may know from a commercial that's out there.   Elizabeth  39:25 Yeah. So next, actually, it's next Thursday. It's going to be released. So DC line, sir. So he is the second half of the duo group tag team. I don't know if you guys know back in the 90s. You know, weren't there it is. Yeah. Well, there. He's back and they're back for that Geico. Commercial scoop. There it is. Yeah, yeah.   Terry  39:47 Yeah, I mean, every time   Elizabeth  39:50 Yeah, that commercial gets you it's in a got you got me and so he's doing his rounds only because, you know, he has a great day. Like, thinking he's very inspirational. Okay, cool. Very. I mean, I couldn't stop listening, then he basically talked throughout the whole thing, because it was very inspirational. You know, like, kind of, like a do it attitude, you know, like, you can go through doing your selling, you can go through any adversity and get out the other side. So it's very inspirational. And you know, obviously what he's him and his partners doing. Yeah. So thank you for bringing that up. So June 3, which is Thursday, it will be released.   Terry  40:40 Yeah, we can either. Oh, my gosh, I'm ready. Yes, yes. Then you are also,   Roy Barker  40:46 I think this has been a little bit back in time. But you talk with one of our friends as well. Dr. Carol?   Terry  40:51 activecare. Yes. Very.   Elizabeth  40:53 Yes. She was a delight. I love talking with her cheated her knowledge. And we actually, you know, kind of had a great conversation, obviously, because we were under the same functional medicine paradigm. Right. So it was, like I said, I can talk about this all day. And so yeah, it was a great conversation. I think that's going to be released. A few weeks? I don't know off the top my head right now. But it is going to be released in June, though. Okay.   Terry  41:22 Well, yeah, that's an inspiration just to hear about her combat and you know, being diagnosed with a brain tumor. Yes, having to relearn everything being in a wheelchair. And she said, she aged before her time, you know, when she was 15, she found out what it was like to be at, you know,   Elizabeth  41:39 yeah, yeah. And again, that's the, that's the adversity that we have to think about when we, when we do go through our own stuff. And it's not to say that our own stuff isn't, you know, that we shouldn't care about it. But I think, you know, understanding the adversity and the, you know, that people go through, and how resilient we all are. And we can you know, and it's just how you think about things.   Terry  42:08 So yeah, yeah, sharing and, and just being able to be inspired by other people's stories and knowing that you're not alone in this. Right. That's a big thing.   Roy Barker  42:19 Yeah. All right. Well, before we get out of here, tell us also, what is a habit or tool, something that you've been using here lately, that really helped add value to your life professional or personal either one,   Elizabeth  42:35 sitting on this bouncy ball? Oh, does it help with your posture? It houses my posture? Yes. I it's not one of those because I know they have one of those to where it has seating, you know, but this is an actual one that you can exercise. And I had it a long time ago. And I'm, you know, creating this office space and everything. And I gave my husband the the chair that I actually ordered for myself. I'm like, let me see if I can use this. And it's been I love it. I just, you know, I don't like when I do my work. I've had my music on and I'm dancing around and you're just you're moving? Yeah. So that's, that's something that's actually helped me kind of get through the day too.   Roy Barker  43:16 Yeah, because I use I actually did that it's been years ago, but it actually helps your core and your balance. But I will say if you're not careful, you will get bucked off every now and then like this, I go like this, and I roll up. Oh, that's not good.   Terry  43:34 Maybe we can get Is there a frame that you can put underneath that so it won't slip out? from under? Yeah, maybe, um,   Elizabeth  43:41 if you do, then you don't grow. It's like it stays put then then you get to enroll. So you just have to be careful. That's all.   Roy Barker  43:49 Alright. Well, Elizabeth, until everybody of course, how can they reach out to you? And then, you know, who do you like to work with? What can you do for them how they can reach out but also tell us about the podcast how they can find the podcast.   Elizabeth  44:03 Okay, well, the podcast is the root of our health. And, you know, the audience really is women over 40. But I do have topics that anybody can listen to men, women, you know, any age, but there are some topics that you know, menopause that we speak about a lot, and just in general for women over 40. So it's an alternative health and wellness because that's, you know, who I who I am and what I love to do. So that's the podcast and they can get that, you know, Spotify, iTunes, Stitcher, I believe it's on. So yeah, and my website so you can also get my podcasts on my website, which is Elizabeth DiCristofano.com. And so that's my website and my Instagram is Elizabeth.DiCristofano . No, you know, that's the handout. The other place I live on is LinkedIn. So if you can find me my first and last name, pull me up.   Roy Barker  45:05 Okay. Yeah, we'll be sure to include all that. Sure. The spelling in the show notes form as well. Yeah. All right. Well, as usual, I'm going to thank both of you ladies for bringing me back here. I feel much better. Do you feel relieved? Yeah. Dawn, we can reboot this day and get on with it. Have a good day.   Elizabeth  45:26 Good day. Good weekend. Long, guys. Yeah, yeah, Mom. Yes. Memorial weekend. holiday. Yes, yes.   Roy Barker  45:34 All right. Well, yeah, y'all have a good weekend. There where you're at as well. And we appreciate you being back on so   Terry  45:42 thank you, Elizabeth. As always, it's a pleasure.   Roy Barker  45:46 So that's gonna do it for another episode of feeding fatty Of course, you can find us at www.feedingfatty.com. We are also on all the major podcast platforms iTunes, Stitcher, Google Spotify, we are also a video of this interview will go up on YouTube as well and you can find us on all the major social media platforms. So until next time, take care of yourself and take care of your health. Bye. Elizabeth Di Cristofano Website The Root of Our Health Podcast www.elizabethdicristofano.com www.feedingfatty.com

The Doric Express
News from todays P&J 23/6/21 now on Google, Spotify, Anchor AND Apple....

The Doric Express

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 23, 2021 7:16


This is episode 15, so thanks for listening, if you like it please subscribe and leave a review! It's just a puckly random stories from the P&J - the paper of NE Scotland. Condensed into a wee tiny podcast that won't take up much of your time, but may educate and amuse you. I hope so. If you thought it was rubbish, give it a try every day until it becomes a habit you can't break! Cheers

The 1958 Lawyer
Wochner Law Firm LLC - Corinne Cantwell Heggie

The 1958 Lawyer

Play Episode Listen Later May 25, 2021 38:49


Corinne Cantwell Heggie is a Principal at Wochner Law Firm LLC and she specializes in estate planning. She advocates to protect your property, regardless of your marital status, your age, your income level or your tax bracket. Corinne gave a general overview of estate planning on why it's important and who it is for. They also talked about the benefits of joining a Bar association and how it can help you sharpen your skills and build your network.She also talked about simple tech that really makes serving clients more convenient and safer in the pandemic and what kind of technological advances will lawyers need moving forward in order to connect with clients and partners better.  Timestamps:An overview of estate planning and how you can protect your assets (6:06)Infusing technology in the estate planning practice (11:20)Why powers of attorney, health care and property, and having your own living will is important 16:20)The benefits of joining a Bar Association as an attorney(19:45)Breaking the glass ceiling as a young lawyer (32:54) Quote:“No one's going to care as much about you and your career as you are”“You have to build up the ability to be like a legal ninja. But at the same time, you got to stick up your hand and ask for opportunities”“What is the worst someone's going to say? ‘No'? That's fine, ‘no' is just ‘no' for right now. It's not ‘no' forever.” -Corinne Cantwell Heggie Corinne Cantwell HeggieWebsite: https://www.wochnerlawfirm.com/corinne-heggieLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/corinne-cantwell-heggie-04b27b16a/ Corinne Cantwell Heggie, Principal at Wochner Law Firm LLCEstate Planning Corinne is an attorney in Wochner Law Firm LLC who specializes in estate planning. She prepares wills, trusts, powers of attorney and other planning documents and assists with estate and trust administration. She counsels and drafts corporate documents on behalf of her clients in order to protect them from asset loss and court battles. Corinne has practiced as a BigLaw partner and counsel at Chicago's largest majority women-owned law firm. She is licensed in Illinois and Missouri and can appear before the United States Supreme Court and federal courts located throughout the midwest. LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/corinne-cantwell-heggie-04b27b16a/ Have comments, questions, or concerns? Contact us at feedback@1958lawyer.com Episode Transcript:Ron Bockstahler  0:29  Welcome to the show. I'm your co host Ron box seller.Kirsten Mayfield  0:31  And I'm Kirsten Mayfield and we have with us today Corinne Cantwell Heggie she's principal with Walker law firm. She's been an attorney for 20 years, and she's one of those powerful women in law. We love talking to you on this podcast. In 2020, Chicago lawyer at Chicago daily law bulletin had its inaugural class of the 50 salute women in law. crin was one of those named before woessner, she worked in big law and she was counsel at the largest majority female in law firm in Chicago, which is very cool. She was also the immediate past president of the woman's Bar Association of Illinois. But I would be remiss not to also speak about what she does, as an attorney and she specializes in estate planning. She's an advocate to protect your property, regardless of your marital status, your age, your income level, your tax bracket, which is a great and worthy cause I've known so many people who have not been able to grieve properly because they were suddenly mistake planning. And that's insane to me. Chris, thank you so much for joining us today.Corinne Cantwell Heggie  1:33  Well, Kirsten, thanks for that introduction. Thanks for having me. And Ron. Also, thanks to you for having me.Kirsten Mayfield  1:38  Now, I have to say you've got a very important other role you are the merit badge counselor for your boy scout troop, troop 156. Shout out to everybody that I'm sure the boys are all going to listen to this. So what are some of your favorite merit badges?Corinne Cantwell Heggie  1:55  Yes, um, well, I have a few my love all the citizenship in the nation in your community badges just because it really allows the young man because we only have men in our in our troop right now, to get out into their community and see how it works, who's behind it, learn about the village, how it runs. I also like the merit badges that speak to things that I really kind of like to do, I can one comes to mind is the art merit badge, which is really great. And you can do it virtually, which has been a plus, with a lot of the museums, giving access to certain exhibits or resonant exhibits that they have online.Kirsten Mayfield  2:36  That's so cool. You know, I okay, so I went to film on I love Boy Scouts, my little brothers both by Boy Scouts, my oldest little brother gotten his Eagle Scout, just tons of fun. But, uh, you know, I didn't think about how being in Boy Scouts and having these virtual opportunities during the pandemic, that's so lovely, and wonderful. And something that's like, if you're a parent, you're dealing with trying to get them to school and all this having the ability to do these extracurriculars. Virtually that's, that was probably like really good for those those kids.Corinne Cantwell Heggie  3:10  Yeah, I agree. Carson has kind of been a game changer was really last spring, when at least are part of our sliver of the world was really locked down. It gave something for our household, because I have two scouts to do and kind of, I don't want to say pass the time, but collectively work towards something that didn't relate to getting the schoolwork turned in, and the tests submitted. So it was definitely a silver lining and was wonderful that we were able to find ways to continue to move forward with the merit badges and go through the coursework in a virtual setting. And thanks to the museums, for instance, with respect to the art merit badge, and then you know the citizenship series of badges with the people who helped make our government local and state and federal Ron,Kirsten Mayfield  4:04  you almost sound like Leslie Knope with Parks and Rec with the community merit badgeCorinne Cantwell Heggie  4:09  too. I love that. People, I just think it's so important to understand how your community works. And, you know, the boys aren't paying taxes, but why there's this infrastructure. And then it always culminates when you're talking with me with the fact that we live in a democracy, that we are so privileged to have a vote and that you've got a vote. Got to do it.Kirsten Mayfield  4:33  Yeah. It's good, good skills to to embody people wentRon Bockstahler  4:38  well, I'm glad there was good scout activity going on during the lockdowns that we had going on.Corinne Cantwell Heggie  4:44  has a lot of great adults who give a lot of time and energy and guidance to these young men. And I mean, I'll just say it again. It was really nice, at least in our house to have something to work towards together. That was Fine, you were learning something but you didn't really know you were doing it and wasn't relatedRon Bockstahler  5:05  to, to school. Though I would say this past winter is the first time in at least four years that I haven't been out there polar bear camping trying to get those badges for the boys. SoCorinne Cantwell Heggie  5:16  Oh, yeah. Well, I mean, you don't even need a polar bear camp. I mean, I have two of my my guys are going camping this weekend. And ironically, we're talking about it last night at dinner. My middle guy said, you know, right before lockdown, they went to star rock, because it was a camp out weekend. And he froze his toes off, it was so cold. So you don't have to go look and fire for a polar bear experience, certainly in Illinois. What's north of 80?Ron Bockstahler  5:49  Let's jump into estate planning, having you on the show made me feel a little guilty as I haven't completed my estate planning documents, renewed estate planning documents. So talk to us about estate planning a little bit. And let's talk about how to get clients like me to actually complete the process.Corinne Cantwell Heggie  6:06  I love to talk about that, Ron. So thanks for asking. You know, I think estate planning is something that's a big behemoth, and maybe an elephant in the room for a lot of people. So when you work with our firm, we really try to make it easy and accessible for a couple of reasons. One, it's really not about your mortality, it's about your legacy. And making sure you have control of where your hard earned assets, whatever they are, get to where they need to go or where you want them to go. And to it estate planning. It's just not for high net worth, high tax bracket. People who are married, it couldn't be further from the truth. If you own property, I don't care if it's a savings account, I don't care if it's a 401k I don't care if it's a bond you received. For your first communion. There are tools for you to protect it to make sure one you can name someone to help you make decisions about that property. If you're living and you can't do it, and to where you want it to go when you're not here. So that's what we focus on at our office really helping people understand that it's, you know, kind of debunking it or flipping the script on estate planning, and trying to make it easy and accessible.Kirsten Mayfield  7:31  So in the the mode of that Ron says he hasn't gotten his stuff in order, I'm younger than him. I don't even like what is what is my property? What What do I have? Because I you know, I rent an apartment, I don't have land, I don't have a house. So to me, I don't need to get anything in order. But I do have the items you just mentioned.Corinne Cantwell Heggie  7:53  Yeah, so kearson a great tool for you would be a property power of attorney that would allow you to name someone you know, like and trust, to make decisions and help you manage that property. If you were living and you are unable to do it, that can be very powerful. There's a lot of wealth that is accumulated in deferred income plans. So 401 K's 403, B's, IRAs, SEP IRA, Sep 401, K's and even if you don't do trust planning, okay. With a power of attorney, you can name someone who can make decisions about that property about that wealth. If you're living in you can't do it yourself. I mean, that's huge. And in Illinois, that lawmakers have a form for you to follow.Kirsten Mayfield  8:51  I never thought about it, but like, let's say I was unable all of a sudden I you know, I would assume they'd say oh yeah, like husband can handle it. But that's not necessarily the case.Corinne Cantwell Heggie  9:04  Well, the law will tell you what batting order who's going to bat and when. But typically, these situations Kiersten and Ron are not like low stress, unemotional if someone is coming to have to make these decisions for you, or, or you know, you're out of commission. It's a it's a who's on first kind of situation. So with a property power of attorney, you can have that batting order set. So there's no confusion. But to your point Kiersten they might get to your husband, they might get to your parents, they might get to your adult child. But that's going to depend on how energized the person at your bank, the HR department at your employer, if it's an HR if it's an employer provided 401 K is energized to help your team how Spin family. And that means, you know, child, spouse, partner, whomever, get answers so they can get into the driver's seat.Kirsten Mayfield  10:11  Yeah. And that's the last thing anyone wants to do when they're trying to deal with their emotions and life that just drastically changed.Corinne Cantwell Heggie  10:20  Yeah, I agree. I mean, I see it, I know it. I know it. And even in situations where people have, you know, they've got their close with their siblings, or they, you know, they have a spouse. Every bank is different. And that's not bad or good. It's just a fact, every life insurance company is different, every HR department is different. Have the documents setup so that person knows where the document is. And two can say, here's the property power of attorney, here is the the representation that this person cannot make these decisions. I'm in the driver's seat, please send me anything you need for me to accept this role to put the hat on my head. But let's get rolling.Ron Bockstahler  11:03  So talk a little about how you infuse technology into your firm, because this is a personal area of law as it is for me, I mean, you know, I haven't done mine, because there's like 24 different documents, it's a little overwhelming, if I'm not sitting with my attorney in person going throughCorinne Cantwell Heggie  11:20  a grade. So we have tried to incorporate technology. And I will say we have. And for better or for worse, the pandemic helped us kind of normalize its use in terms of connecting and keeping up with clients, we are looking forward to being able to get back in person with our clients. But I think for legacy clients that have been with the firm, we brought them along, and they may have had that opportunity to talk with us and meet us in person. So it's just more getting them comfortable with. I'm still current over zoom, or I'm still Korean, over FaceTime. I'm still Korean and Google meets. And I do think where it's been something that has been normalized because of COVID. With new clients, right? New engagements, it's it might take one or two meetings, to see if we're going to be a fit for that person. And we recognize we're not a fit for everyone. But we found it to be extremely helpful and actually help us bring our clients align, not because we said hey, you've got to use technology, but because we got to be able to do this to help serve you. And we want to serve you.Ron Bockstahler  12:42  So in when we talk technology, are you using some kind of a secured? How do you share documents, I guess that's what I want to know,Corinne Cantwell Heggie  12:50  was secure was secured PDFs. I mean, we're on a cloud and our cloud is secured and backed up. So that's how we do file, you know, file management. And we do have when we're not we're not paperless, it would be great to be paperless. But our paper footprint, because we're in the cloud has greatly diminished. So with secure PDFs, and we leverage and if you know someone can't do a secure PDF, we'll do you know, we'll work with whatever platform they have. We're pretty nimble in that regard. We'll meet the we want it to be easy for the clients. So if they're using a different method, or they're comfortable with Dropbox, great, we'll go there if that's where you want to be,Ron Bockstahler  13:32  or what signatures are required in real estate planning documents.Corinne Cantwell Heggie  13:37  Yeah, so that's a great question. We were really lucky because in March of last year, Governor Pritzker signed a an emergency order to allow virtual notaries to take place, you know, there were about 10 criteria. And if you satisfy them, you were able to continue to, you know, do business with papers that require notarized signatures, that actually is that was codified and became law, which is great in July. A lot of documents they'll run still require what signatures but we leverage digital where we can, which is not, you know, it's not as many as that a closing like a real estate closing. But I still think if anyone's done a real estate closing the buyers because they're working with the lenders, most of the most of the time. They they have to be there and provide witness signatures on on, you know, two inch stack of documents, so they're not gone. Totally obsolete, but the virtual Notary has really helped kind of lower the lower the hurdle there. Yeah, I thinkRon Bockstahler  14:46  funny you mentioned buying a house we did we refight our condo, and they sent someone to our home to do all the documents, or at least they scheduled that but then at that period of time in the condos in Indiana You actually have have a witness. So they had to reschedule at his office, and we had to physically go there, which I thought was just crazy. But and I think they've since rescinded that law, you don't need a witness, but during that short period of time, how things change?Corinne Cantwell Heggie  15:17  Yeah, I mean, that's I will say, I am glad you brought up the witness piece rod. Because when people try and do it yourself, or go online and get these documents completed, you know, if you don't dot the i's and cross your T's and crossing a t would be witnesses, how many witnesses are required? What are the requirements for a witness? Right? That's where, you know, you can sign documents that might not necessarily work when you need them to.Ron Bockstahler  15:46  Let's talk about like, so we got a lot of attorneys listening. And that's one of the bigger issues where attorneys don't actually go and do their own estate planning documents don't have a living well, you know, what are the basic minimum that they at least need to have in place today, no matter what age they are?Corinne Cantwell Heggie  16:01  Right? Well, we've kind of talked about a property power of attorney which is going to allow you to name someone to handle your property via bank accounts. 401k is real estate, sign your tax return, if you're living and you cannot do it yourself. Staying in that property lane, a will is really important, even if you don't have children, because in Illinois, a will is where you will articulate or identify the guardians for your minor children. But more importantly, a will allows you to identify your property where you want it to go be at an individual individuals a charity, and when you're not here, and critically. So critically, identify an executor. And state that that executor if he or she or they have to go to court to probate an asset, they can be excused to have to pay a bond. I mean, the number three and four should probably be one and two, in the order of I mean, that is a huge, a huge way to eliminate confusion and asset depreciation, because you've got to pay the bond to get to court. And the judges often not going to excuse it, if it doesn't say in black and white, and you're well. So that's why I was important. And then I'm going to I'm going to switch into the healthcare lane not because I'm a doctor, but because you need to sign a healthcare power of attorney so you can name someone who can help your your medical team, make decisions for your medical treatment if you're living and you can't make those decisions yourself. So at the very least you need powers of attorney health care and property and a well.Ron Bockstahler  17:43  Yeah, the living will always someone to help the doctors because you don't want to put that pressure on your family members or, you know, that just a lot of stress to put on a family member lamportCorinne Cantwell Heggie  17:55  Yeah, well, well put, I can't that's it. So never easy. It's never not stressful, if someone has to make medical decisions for you.Ron Bockstahler  18:05  Let's kind of jump into you've built a great career. I guess, first of all, why did you go into this area of law?Corinne Cantwell Heggie  18:11  it's so rewarding to help people unravel a question or an issue that they have been unable to solve or haven't been able to get a practical answer to.Ron Bockstahler  18:24  Okay, did you practice in other areas? Because you were with the big firm prior to and on your way to your own firm with your husband?Corinne Cantwell Heggie  18:32  Right? Yeah, I've had the benefit and the great fortune, I think of working in a large national law firm, and then a a boutique majority women owned firm. And I've always enjoyed working with individuals. And I had along the way over my career, I've always done work with individuals, but because of the nature of where I practice, I did a lot of work with corporate legal departments. And, and in all lanes, the counseling, pre litigation, settlement and litigation. And I think that gives me an ability to see issues from a 360 degree standpoint. But I have to say from day one, it was always great to work with individuals or families or or business owners who you know, started the business or came into a business and and were able to make it soar and grow.Ron Bockstahler  19:28  In your career. you utilize you been very involved with Bar Association, your immediate past president of the woman's Bar Association of Illinois, can you let's talk about how that's helped your career. And what some attorneys that maybe aren't so involved, you know, why should they get involved? Yeah,Corinne Cantwell Heggie  19:44  I'd love to talk about the women's Bar Association of Illinois, Ron. It's an honor organization that's near and dear to my heart. I was a member when I, you know, was a newly licensed lawyer largely because of a wonderful capital partner at the first firm. That I worked at her name is Jennifer sander. She was in line to be the president of the organization. And she was always so gracious in terms of walking the floor where the associate SAT, and said, you know, the firm has a ticket for this, come join me. Come, you know, she, no pressure, if you can make it, let me know, I'll see you there. And whenever you came, she might have had 10,000 other people in the room she had to speak to. But she always was like, Chris, thank you for coming. I'm really glad you could be here. I never forgot that. I still keep in touch with Jennifer. And so that was a great impression. And, and I had the pleasure of being at the firm when she was the president of the women's Bar Association. So we got to go to a lot of events to meet a lot of really wonderful leaders, not only in the legal community, but in the in the in the larger community in Illinois.Ron Bockstahler  20:56  So it makes me think, when you first started, that's how you got in and your firm paid for. But what if you're a solo or a smaller firm? Is it worth paying for out of your pocket?Corinne Cantwell Heggie  21:08  I think it is, I think it absolutely has. And let me tell you why. Because bar associations, you know, help individual lawyers build muscles to network. And you know, if you're a solo fine yourself, or if you're a small, firm yourself in your firm, and then it creates a really natural platform for you to discuss what you do and why you love it. It's just that basic. And you know, when I say it to young lawyers or to individuals who are not sure, right, if they're going to pay out of pocket to continue, not only their membership with wb AI, but any other Bar Association, I always challenge them to think about that. That's not nothing.Kirsten Mayfield  21:55  And you also you, you said that you talk to Jennifer, and you keep in touch with her because of these personable skills, because she was a higher level person she came around she saw, like spoke to you as a human, she's looked you in the eye, she remembered you, those little micro skills. I feel like those are something you would probably be gaining from a bar association if you're not a solo attorney as well. Or if you are a solo attorney don't get those interactions.Corinne Cantwell Heggie  22:23  Absolutely. Kiersten. I mean, you're learning if you if you stick your hand up, and you and you join a Bar Association, I commend you. And I also would encourage you to join a committee or join an event committee or you know, a small group committee or go to a CLE. You're going to go there and you're going to, you know, maybe perfect your elevator pitch or learn to talk to people learn who who could be strategic partners for you. Who do you like? Who's going to be a colleague, if you just need to vent and you can't do it to a colleague at work or your you know, your significant other or your roommates? Yeah, there are so many soft skills that one can learn from joining a bar association and showing upKirsten Mayfield  23:06  showing up that's key, right. That's where people fail and think this isn't working for me.Corinne Cantwell Heggie  23:13  Yeah, I agree. I mean, absolutely. But, you know, I hear time and time again. And I remind people, because people told it to me. And my parents told us to me, no one's going to care as much about you and your career as you are.Ron Bockstahler  23:33  So youCorinne Cantwell Heggie  23:35  got to get into it, you got to lean into it, because it doesn't have to be 100% every day. But you've got to come back to that as your guiding your guiding post. And you got to lean into it, you got to stick your hand up. And you got to get comfortable. And I feel this way for particularly young women and men who are in large law firms, or mid sized law firms, you better get comfortable advocating for yourself or making asks, and I'm not saying coming out of the jump and saying I need a bigger bonus. If you don't have the hours, you know some good work done behind you mean you gotta get you got to learn your craft and you got to get your skills, you got to build up the ability to be like a legal ninja. But at the same time, you got to start sticking up your hand and asking for opportunities. What is the worst someone's going to say? No. Forget it fine. No, is just know for right now. It's not no forever.Kirsten Mayfield  24:33  Did you ever have a fear of no or was this like, yeah, here? Yeah, all the time.Corinne Cantwell Heggie  24:38  But so what? I was like, no one's gonna do this. If I don't do it. If I don't ask, no one's gonna be thinking Oh, Corrine would like to do this. I can see her at the end of this conference table. And I know she wants this opportunity.Ron Bockstahler  24:51  I think and I've been working for over 30 years, and I still have the fear no from time to time. SoCorinne Cantwell Heggie  24:57  yeah, I'm not saying like I love it. I haven't toRon Bockstahler  25:01  You mentioned committees, and I remember my first board position. And I think it was on that board for two years before I decided either get to get off the board or get involved. So I started joining committees. And it changed everything for me. I started getting involved with people differently. It was like, wow, why didn't I do this? from the get go? Yeah, raise your hand and advocate for yourself, get involved.Corinne Cantwell Heggie  25:25  But I think you raise a good point with that, Ron, I mean, you don't have to do it right away, you know, everyone's got an on ramp. And you've got to kind of get your sea legs, sea legs underneath you and kind of see what works, see if it's a fit for you. Right? If this, you know, a lot of times we join organizations, and we might not know, it's in the inner workings. But it takes a while. So give yourself grace to because this does not happen overnight.Kirsten Mayfield  25:49  So where did you like start in? Like, how did you approach it, because as a person who's more of an introvert, I could see myself joining a committee and then going to like, or going joining a bar association going to like one meeting and one thing and being like, not getting myself in there. So how did you embed yourself into this bar association? Because you obviously did it? Well, you became a president. Right?Corinne Cantwell Heggie  26:16  It's it. It was a it was a marathon, not a sprint. And that's why I say to really any lawyer, you know, you got to give yourself grace, when you're starting something new, or trying to advocate for yourself, you've got to get your voice and you got to get practice. But I was active and in more so going to events for the social piece, when I was a younger lawyer. And then candidly, you know, when I started having children, I mean, it was, um, Bar Association work went on the back burner, because there just wasn't enough time in the day for me as I saw it, and I did try to do at least one thing that was, or two things that were business development, networking every day, Monday through Friday, even through when I was, you know, expecting my children and on maternity leave. Did I hit every day? No, but I really tried to do that. So I had to take a little step back. And I have to say that if it hadn't been for my younger son, one of my younger sister, who also is a lawyer, she had just passed the bar and was just getting kind of into the Bar Association, because I had done it. And she was great. I mean, she would just show up, it was just after I had my third, my third, my third son. And she's like I saw, I'm in the lobby of your building. And john knows you're with me. So I'll see you in five minutes.Kirsten Mayfield  27:41  She set it up for you. She was just like, You're coming with me.Corinne Cantwell Heggie  27:45  So that was a great, but it didn't take I mean, she had to do it maybe two or three times. And I was like, okay, she's right. Because I do remember, at the time, working in a large, firm, and, you know, just like standing outside my office bank, waiting at the printer, and just thinking, wow, everyone here is smiling and happy. And their hair is washed andKirsten Mayfield  28:10  the little things.Corinne Cantwell Heggie  28:12  And I kind of felt a little bit isolated. Now listen, that's all me, that's all me. But it was really great to get back and be active at the women's Bar Association because I went to these events. And I was like, these are my people.Kirsten Mayfield  28:27  And you had a person in your life who knew it and she was like, driving for you. Because while you say, and it's great advice from your dad, no one's gonna advocate for you, basically, other than you. When you do build those colleagues friendships and obviously sisters, you're born best friends. Yeah, I mean, I've got an older sister. We're just Yeah, but once you build them, they do help you when you're you're not able to help yourself as much. SoCorinne Cantwell Heggie  28:53  yeah, you need a hype team. Yeah.Kirsten Mayfield  28:56  That's a great way to have it. Okay. So checklist as a young attorney, build a hype team.Corinne Cantwell Heggie  29:02  You do and I'll make you easier and I'll help you be accountable. But like in a fun, nice way. Yeah.Ron Bockstahler  29:08  Let's lead into why you are the president at the woman's Bar Association of Illinois. You are the bar celebrated 100 years of suffrage right women's rights to vote.Corinne Cantwell Heggie  29:19  That's right. We celebrated the 100th anniversary of the 19th amendments passage which gave women the rightRon Bockstahler  29:26  to vote. And what did you do? That was outstanding. I know you work with other associations or the bars. Will you talk about toot your own horn a little bit about what you did there?Corinne Cantwell Heggie  29:36  Well, so that year, we did a lot of partnering with bar associations not only at the local level, but at the national level. So we did a we celebrated the passage of the 19th amendment with a luncheon that we partnered with the black women Lawyers Association of Greater Chicago And the Illinois state bar associations, women's group. And so we jointly put on the event. It was a full house. And we were lucky enough to have two federal district court judges engaged engage in a fireside chat. During the luncheon. It was Chief Judge Rebecca pahlmeyer. And judge Sharon Johnson Coleman. So that was wonderful. That was kind of the kickoff event, not so much for the 19th amendment, but just for the solidarity for the legal community. The women's Bar Association partnered with lag back and then Alliance Bernstein to put on the first diversity and inclusion, accredited CLE in Illinois, in July of 2019, around the issue of the law, and what it says and does and what it means for our transgender colleagues, not only lawyers, but just the transgender community at large. So that was, um, we were supported by the Chicago Chamber of Commerce as well. So that was really powerful partnerships. And then finally, right before, right before lockdown, we had a spring summit for women in the law. And we partnered with the American Bar Association's Commission on women in the profession. Do you have a day long event that Chief Judge palmyre hosted at the Dirksen building, where we tackled, you know, issues that are unique to women, as they matriculate through their legal career, and I kicked off the event moderating a panel that was that included Paulette Brown, who is a powerhouse and just a wonderful lawyer and person. And she is the Chief Diversity and Inclusion officer lac Lord. And Kelly Corley, who was just retired from the position of General Counsel for division, discover financial services located in river woods. And we talk about two women who, who live every single day, not even probably thinking about it now, trying to make the legal profession better, not only for women, but for everyone who's who is practicing. And regardless of where they're practicing, be a legal department, a law firm, public interest, a government entity.Ron Bockstahler  32:36  So we only got a couple minutes left. So one thing I want to touch on and kind of get your input some of the younger attorneys listening is your How can we break the glass ceiling on women and minorities that are kind of getting started today? What can they do to maybe change the way it's been?Corinne Cantwell Heggie  32:54  I think you have to stick your hand up and ask and then grab each other's hands and move together. Because together we will go farther, and not to I don't want people young lawyers to ignore their unique characteristics that they bring to the profession. So very important. But there's so much good that can be done if you reach across the aisle and grab the hands of other people who are similarly situated, or maybe not similarly situated to advocate for each other. Okay.Kirsten Mayfield  33:31  So just one more question. Why did you go into that women owned law firm? Was it more organic? Or was it I want to be surrounded by like minded women in law?Corinne Cantwell Heggie  33:47  Yeah, that's a good question to your son. I wanted to see how law was practice in a in a in a smaller setting. And it was very organic. The one of the founding partner, Stephanie Scharf, had been introduced to me by one of the at the time Chief Diversity Officer f law firm, where I was practicing Leslie Richards, Yellin, who was a wonderful, wonderful woman, a wonderful human being, that I'm very lucky to have ever had the pleasure of calling a partner. And they had a need, and I had a curiosity, and it was a fit. In that regard. I also knew that I was going to kind of be able to take my networking and my client book building skills to another level. I was doing it collaboratively with other women to kind of hone more of an authentic voice. That's not to say that I wasn't doing it authentically. I worked with a lot of men and that was, you know, listen, I had a lot of male sponsors. A lot of male cheerleaders at my firm. I have a cheerleader and my husband. So there wasn't anything I didn't think I could do, but I didn't do a lot Business Development with other women. And so I knew there was going to be a little bit of an, I wanted to know more about that. And I knew, in addition to being able to do great legal work at a boutique firm, I would be able to probably kind of deepen that skill and hone that skill in a different way. Which proven which proved to be the case.Kirsten Mayfield  35:20  That's amazing. I, you know, you don't always think about these things. But it is very, like, it seems like if you get you started at a bar association, you started with women, you just put yourself into that world. And you said it was an organic move into something that allowed you to achieve, which is an awesome and goal working with your husband every day, being a partner with him. And I think that just it's lovely talking to people like you who are just showing the different paths, because I think when you're just trying to make it yourself, it would just seem impossible. So thank you for talking to us about it's, it's great to hear.Corinne Cantwell Heggie  35:59  Well, thank you for having me. And I just want everyone to know that I had a lot of setbacks. A lot of times it's a jungle gym, take five steps back 20 steps forward, two steps sideways, and you might fall off. But if you stay committed to putting yourself first and advocating for yourself, doing good work, learning your craft, of course, sky's the limit.Ron Bockstahler  36:24  Let's, let's kind of finish up with our last question. What's the one thing in the business of law you'd like to see change over the next five years?Corinne Cantwell Heggie  36:32  I want tech. And I know everyone who comes all your guests are saying mess. But I feel like from the estate planning world, I can say I want tech to be here to stay to help us be able to not only connect with our clients, partners, but connect with our clients. And I don't want in person to go away. But I want it to become completely normalized.Ron Bockstahler  36:56  I think we're all on board with that. Definitely want to see that happen. I know just in my life. There's some things that the pandemic has actually brought you into my life that I don't want to lose a grade that I love working. I'm in my house right now. And I got five young kids, it a lot easier to spend more time with them when I'm traveling every day of the week. So a great,Unknown Speaker  37:19  a great. Well,Ron Bockstahler  37:21  Brian, what's the best way for our listeners to get a hold of you? I know most of our business is coming 80% of our business is coming from other attorneys. So let's how do we how do they reach out to you?Corinne Cantwell Heggie  37:31  They can find me on our firm's website, which is www dot Walker law firm comm you can find me on LinkedIn at Karen Cantwell hagie Facebook at Walker law firm. And of course my direct dial 224-904-3895.Ron Bockstahler  37:50  We do remember when the two to four numbers came out. I was like I don't want to do for number. I live in Chicago. Oh, I felt old. Thanks for joining the show. It's been wonderful having you really appreciate it. And we look forward to get back on the show sometime in the future.Corinne Cantwell Heggie  38:06  Thanks, Ron. Thanks, Carson. And thanks for doing this podcast. I think it's really wonderful for the legal community.Ron Bockstahler  38:11  Thank you. Absolutely. You can listen to the 1958 lawyer and we'll see you next week.Unknown Speaker  38:18  Thanks for listening to the 1958 lawyer podcast. If you liked the show, tell a friend and please subscribe rate and review us on Apple podcast, Google Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. If you'd like to hear more about Ron person, or Amata go to a modern offices.com. All the links are also available in show notes.Transcribed by https://otter.ai

Feeding Fatty
Beliefs Drive Behavior, Talk To Your Inner Child To See Why You Feel That Way

Feeding Fatty

Play Episode Listen Later May 25, 2021 63:24


Beliefs Drive Behavior, Talk To Your Inner Child To See Why You Feel That Way with Dee Woolridge What are your triggers? Is it an unconscious need to protect ourselves? If we are lacking pleasure, we are going to seek it. This explains when some people eat or drink to excess, do drugs, sex or other ways to fulfil that need for pleasure. The first step to mindset is being mindful. Think self love, take time to love yourself. About Dee Specialist on Resilience, Mindset, and Communication As a result of her speaking, coaching, and writing, deep has helped thousands of people stop the cycle of self-sabotage and realized their significance. They speak up, stand up, and show up as the leader in their own lives. They move beyond stuck to live and work within their genius. Dee Woolridge, a specialist in the effective communication, success mindset, and resilience, is a bestselling author and writer of numerous self-help books, she is the founder of two training and development companies. One that helps young adults on the autism spectrum. Dee is a 30-year U.S. Navy veteran covering three wars she LED at the executive officer level and was a military consultant in Hollywood. She is the 9th of 13 siblings, a breast cancer survivor, and parents of a daughter with autism. Oorah....she's married to a Marine Also, a clinical hypnotherapist, gifted spiritual counselor, and light worker, Dee has an open, friendly demeanor, and conversation is one of the things she does best. She relates well to military audiences, women, shows on spirituality, disabilities (autism), entrepreneurship, Wellness, mental health, emotional intelligence breast cancer, self-help and personal development. www.deewoolridge.com www.sanantoniohypnosis.com www.feedingfatty.com   Full Transcript Below Beliefs Drive Behavior, Talk To Your Inner Child To See Why You Feel That Way Sat, 5/22 1:48PM • 1:03:24 SUMMARY KEYWORDS eat, mindset, body, hypnosis, belief, feeding, people, pleasure, banana split, food, roy, called, sprouts, wheat grass, terry, dee, journey, hungry, feeling, thinking SPEAKERS Terry, Dee, Roy Barker Roy Barker  00:15 Hello, and welcome to another episode of feeding fatty. This is Roy. Terry  00:18 I'm Terry. Roy Barker  00:19 So we are the podcast journaling my, I guess chronicling my journey to wellness and you know, as I've aged wellness is become a much bigger importance because I want to age well, I don't want to outlive my wellness. And so what we do is we bring you some episodes based on some things that we're trying. And then we also bring guests professionals in different fields to the show to talk to us about different things that we can do to help ourself and so, Terry, I'm gonna let you introduce our guest today, the Dee Woolridge Terry  00:52 Yes, as a result of her speaking, coaching and writing Dee has helped 1000s of people stop the cycle of self sub sabotage and realize their significance. They speak up, stand up and show up as the leader in their own lives. They move beyond stuck to live and work within their genius. Dee Woolridge, a specialist in effective communication success, mindset and resilience is a best selling author, and writer of numerous self help books. She's the founder of two training and development companies, one that helps young adults on the Autism spec spectrum. Dee is a 30 year US Navy veteran covering three wars, she lead at the executive officer level and was a military consultant in Hollywood. She's the ninth of 13 siblings, a breast cancer survivor and parents of a daughter and parent of a daughter with autism. Oorah. Hi, Dee, welcome to the show. I just wanted to say that my dad was there for Dee  01:56 me, Terry and I, Roy. That's right, the Air Force doesn't really have a call. No. And that call really belongs to the the Marine Corps. That Ron, we just kind of borrowed it from them because we carry them around. Roy Barker  02:14 Yeah, that's what, that's what some movie, they said something, you know, the little rivalry between the Marines and the Navy and said, like, Hey, we y'all are just our transportation. Dee  02:25 And we are Roy Barker  02:28 great, well, thanks so much for taking time to be with us. You know, one thing that we talk about a lot in this journey is mindset. Because, you know, the reality is, is I could go, you know, I'm overweight enough, I think I could probably go qualify for surgery, or have other things done. But my, my hesitation for that has always been that if I don't change my mindset, I will never change my body. And because I know people who have, you know, done the different things and had had failure, because they just continued to eat, or drink consumed calories in some manner that just exceeded you know, what they were expanding. And I know, it's not always just about calories in calories out. But you know, we kind of have to have some kind of an equilibrium there. So it's a pleasure, you know, thanks for taking time to be with us and help us, you know, with this part of the part of that journey. Dee  03:21 For sure, it's an, it's I know, it's important to you, Roy. And, and it's important to me, also. And it's important for that I live, what I teach, so that I can teach it well, right? So mindset is everything. And even with our wellness. Roy Barker  03:43 So what are some things that you what are some challenges that you see that your clients have in trying to get the mindset, right, and some things that you've done to help them? Dee  03:55 Well, there's, I think there's two parts to if we're talking Wait, in particular, one reason is triggers, you know, what our triggers are and then we have this unconscious feed into the trigger. And then the other thing is the unconscious protection of, of our body of our of ourselves. So, for example, if we are feeding ourselves because we are lacking pleasure, because eating is pleasurable. Yes, you know, and if we're lacking pleasure in our lives in some place, then we were always going to seek it out. We're going to figure out how to make ourselves feel good. So that's why people eat an excess or drink in excess because it makes them feel good, because they're filling a hole that that's not being filled somewhere else. Okay? That that pleasures Enter. So other people do it with drugs, they do it with sex. There's different kinds of ways to fill that pleasure. And so that's one thing. And the other thing is, we have an unconscious way of protecting ourselves. And we'll do it like even from stress. So if you and I know this about me, so if I'm, if I'm working on something, and then I get to a place where it's particularly hard, I'll get up, and then I'll go right to the pantry. Roy Barker  05:35 I guess I had an episode like that just the other day, rather. Dee  05:40 And the, what I'm doing is trying to get back to that trying to get rid of that uncomfortable feeling that's in my body. So you know, we, when we're hungry, are our body sends a signal to our mind, we're hungry. So there's a discomfort that's going on. And so we associate that discomfort with beating ourselves feeding ourselves. So we use it in every other thing that we do. Okay, if we're not, if we're in a state of discomfort with, you know, with work, we don't like that feeling. How do I get rid of that feeling? Oh, I'm used to eating. And what eating does is slow down the digestive system, or gives the body something else to do and concentrate on. So we're not concentrating on that hard thing, that stressful 06:35 thing? Okay, Roy Barker  06:37 no, and it's funny. I mean, I was kind of joking. But it just the other day, it wasn't necessarily like, Oh, my gosh, moment of heart or stress, it was just, you know, kind of bumped up something I was thinking about. And I thought, I got out my chair turned around the head of the kitchen, thinking, you know, I'll get me a little something to hate. But that's interesting how that how, you know how you explain that about it, kind of that unconscious thing, because it is in the past while notice, you know, you run in there and get something to eat, and you eat it. And they think, oh, gosh, I shouldn't have done that. You know. And I think the other thing that you talk about too, is that feeling of hunger. One thing, and I verbalize this to Terry, so I can talk it out, but it's separating the feeling of a little hunger twins from the feeling of death. And it's like, Okay, that was just a little hunger thing. It doesn't mean, it doesn't mean that if you don't eat, you may die in the next five minutes. There's no urgency to run in there. Because a lot now, we've been really working hard on the last week to get back on track. And so I feel that little hunger and I go get a glass of water or you know, something else.   Dee  07:48 And it passes, you're hungry, you should eat, you know, because our body is doing exactly what it's supposed to do what it was built to do to tell us when to eat that we're hungry. But the other times, we have to ask ourselves, what are we really hungry for? Right? You know, am I Seeking Safety, satisfaction? Pleasure to get rid of that discomfort? So, you know, what are you really hungry for so that is the that's the thing, or am I thirsty? Yeah.   Roy Barker  08:19 Well, I'm   Dee  08:20 getting that question. And you know, what am I really hungry for? Yeah, am I bored? Do I need excitement here?   Roy Barker  08:26 So you know, that's me. And let me rephrase my what I say when I say hunger, I mean, maybe a little twinge in my stomach, not like full blown stomach, ground. But that's the thing is, you know, in the past, it's that, that very first trigger, like it's just kind of that little empty feeling. It's like to go fill that hole. But then the other thing, like you said to is the excitement and one of the funniest things when I first realized that is, you know, Terry was out running around, she called me one day and said, I'm heading back home. Are you about ready for lunch? And I said, Yeah, I am. I'm getting kind of hungry. And so then, in my mind, I'm getting all excited because I'm thinking, Oh, she's gonna go buy chick fil a, and she's gonna get us a chicken sandwich. And then she said, Okay, well, we've got some leftover salmon and expired asparagus in the fridge, right? And I just deflated Terry  09:18 and I heard it over the phone. I could see it, you know, Roy Barker  09:21 and luckily, I kind of had some self realization there. But I'm like, wow, I was putting way too much emphasis on this takeout lunch to make, you know, excite me or make me happier, be something different from the day. It's strange. Dee  09:37 Because that's the pleasure in it. Eating is pleasurable, you know, food is, is delicious. That's why they put that you can make food delicious, right? So there's a difference between feeding hunger and satiating the hunger. So you can eat and then you just go that just wasn't good. Like you're But you're not satisfied, right? And that that makes you eat more, because you're trying to satisfy whatever pleasure it is that you're looking for. Yeah. So making healthy delicious food is the best deal. That's, that's the best and it's Roy Barker  10:21 no fault to Terry's but just for me dressing, Terry  10:24 was it really dangling a carrot? Roy Barker  10:26 I No, no, no, I didn't mean making healthy delicious food. It's just, it's hard for me to seize on some vegetables or something. Something that is healthy. Goodness knows she tries very hard to jazz stuff up and hide it in this and turn it around and make it that but sometimes I can just always tell it's a it's a vegetable that one Terry  10:51 can't do? Well, how do we find out? Which pleasure we're trying to go after? I mean, how do we find that out? Dee  11:02 You ask yourself and so that that's part of the the mindset thing is, is first is being mindful? Are you guys familiar with you know, with being mindful? is just being in the moment right? Not in the past? Not in the future? Just a moment? Yes. And observing What's going on? Okay. So and then you can do that with with your body? You know, with the body scans, this is from head to toe, what do I feel in my head, and my throat and my my chest and my stomach? And you can when you're mindful you know your body You know, when you when you're used to doing that body scan? If you do that every day, you know your body then you know when you're hungry. You know when you when it's when is boredom or you're seeking pleasure or happiness or or something else besides food? Because you're so in tune with your body. Yeah, so just starting starting there with being mindful.   Roy Barker  12:08 The other thing Terry is kind of pushed me into doing a little more is the mindfulness actually, when we eat to help, it seems to have helped me slow down and not eat as much because if I'm sitting here at my desk, eating or if I'm up walking around, or you know, watching the TV or whatever, sometimes it's like you're not really paying attention. It's just the process. Yeah, you're just shoveling it. And then you find out you know, he passed home you pass being not hungry about five minutes ago, but yet you're still here eating. Dee  12:42 Yeah, it's like, that's why by I used to love Doritos. I mean, like, Doritos were great. But I couldn't eat a little bag, I had to have the family size. And then I would just eat mindlessly, right? Just eating them. While I stopped doing that, and just getting a small bag because I wanted to savor them. So was mindful about how long it was taking me to eat one chip, right? Because I wanted to make it last. So I could eat that one bag, that one small bag. At the same time. The same rate, I could eat a big bag, but I'm eating less. Yeah. The other one is just crunching through them. And I'm not paying attention to what I'm putting into my body until I started keeping a log that I just did it for three days. And I was just discussing, I was like, okay, three days. 13:40 Oh my, Dee  13:40 I'm good. I see this. And these are easy things to break. Because one of the things that I'm about mindset is self love. is loving yourself. You can drive past Wendy's and say that's not loving me. That's not loving me. So I started doing that. years ago when I had breast cancer and I went straight raw vegan. So, Roy, you're saying, you know the vegetables? That's all I had was the festivals. I didn't even have fruit because it had too much sugar. And the vegetables were mostly raw. You couldn't cook them pass 130 degrees. Oh, well. So and I did that for three years, three years and three years. Yeah. But that's I did that instead of chemotherapy. So what I was doing was feeding my body was improving my health instead of tearing it down with a chemotherapy drug which kills everything right? what I was doing was building my immune system up and making my body more alkaline. And you do that with raw vegetables, were all organic vegetables interesting. And I lost weight. Because of that not because I was trying to it was because because I was eating clean. Now, I'm, I'm not a raw vegan now. But that lifestyle I was it was all about self love and helping myself feel better. Like, I felt like I was tearing my body down because I didn't love me enough, I would put everything before me and then just throw some stuff in my face, Feed my face, whatever, and go help somebody else I was good at helping other people but not me. And that showed in in my weight it showed in my skin, it showed in my hair. It showed in my quality of sleep, because I wasn't caring for myself. And then it manifested into cancer. After that, and there's some other mindset things going on with that too was relationship with my mother and other things that I was trying to disguise or mask with food. And cancer was the Okay, you can do this or you can die. You know. So I changed my whole life with changing the way I ate and how I thought about food, food was medicine, instead of pleasure eating, you know, the redoes you know, and then just like drive in Platt pass those places. I would say, if I craved it, when I would say to myself, that's not loving me. That's tearing me down. Would I let anybody tear me down? Nope. So I would drive past it. And then I stopped even seeing the chick fil A's. I stopped even seeing the McDonald's and the Wendy's and the places I used to go because my husband said this a Popeye's chicken over there. And I go Really? It goes. I was like, I've been driving past here for three years. I haven't seen it. It's like Yeah, because it wasn't even in my conscious awareness. I would be looking for the whole foods, you know, the sprouts. So those those kind of places where I can get the healthy food for me? Does that make sense? Yeah, it Roy Barker  17:28 was just a, it was the way I was thinking my on my radar. That's what it was on my radar, what were the best places that would serve my body and keep me well. So again, back to the interesting concept about the pleasures about I guess I'm that way as well, when you drive down the road is that you? You see that as that's pleasurable or adventurous. And it's, you know, we're trying to go with this mindset of, we eat food to live and you know, I'd like if you want to tell us more, I'd be glad to, you know, would be interested in hearing your story about the cancer and eating claim because we have been trying, you know, we're not totally vegetable or plant based. But we're trying to move that way. And we've, yeah, we've been this week and you know, we're getting rid of some things but we're trying to move plant based for a lot of things the we've heard the digestive system works 80% of the time, you know, burns 80% of the time trying to digest food and so the other thing we've tried to do is do a little intermittent fasting as well and I tell you what, I can tell the inflammation in my own arm injury is way down because it had gotten so bad, you know, the last four or five weeks and I couldn't even you know, move it across the front my body without it hurting but inflammations down the sleep is better just like this morning. You know, I made up my mind I'm sleeping in till you know whenever I wake up and you know about 536 o'clock, Ma'am, I'm I was up without an alarm and you know, feeling energetic, not just an old drowsy, wake up. So But anyway, if you want to, if you don't mind, you can expand on that. I'm interested to hear about that. Dee  19:15 Sure, um, first of all, I'm not a dietitian, or nutritionist. This is just my journey. Yes, yes. So I was looking for alternative ways to treat cancer. Because I was always, even though I was a vegetarian, vegetarian slash vegan. I was a junk food vegetarian vegan, which means I had Doritos as one of the food groups made from corn, and processed cheese. It's not even real and things like that. So um, so even though I didn't eat meat, I said Ate poorly, which contributed to, to my bad health. And when I was diagnosed with cancer, I had to make some decisions like everybody else does, like what kind of treatment are you going to have? Are you going to have surgeries are you going to do all of these things. So I was looking for alternative ways to, to treat it. And I found this Health Institute called Hippocrates. And I drove down and went to their, their day of orientation, we tasted the food, they wish they showed us the grounds, because you you can live on site, it's like going away. So went away for six weeks. And they have a medical staff on premises, you know, they, they have your diagnosis, and they design a plan for you. But mostly, and you can, for people that are interested in this, you don't have to be sick to do this, you actually want to do this before you're sick. You know? And there's lots of videos if you just go to YouTube and look up Hippocrates. And you can they have many videos on why the food, the food that we that we just go to the store is damaged, basically, you know, and we all know about GMOs and, and all of those kinds of things. So try to eat. So eating vegetables is not just one thing but eating organic, that don't have pesticides, even we even got down to like the type of underwear that I wore, you know, was it cotton? Or was it all synthetic and polyester because it doesn't breathe, your skin needs to breathe. So I feel things when I go to the store and I'm just like this is dysplastic I'm not you know, my my I'm not going to be able to breathe, my skin's not going to be able to get what it needs from that. The mattress that I I bought you know I got rid of the old mattress and now that the matches that I have is a Stearns and foster was what is this just cotton and wool? You know, it doesn't have any of the synthetic stuff on it because everything else has chemicals and things in it. So I was like strict, strict on all of those things still. As far as the food is concerned, it was his juicing. And then it was raw veggies, lots of sprouts, everything that is in its first stages of growth. So sprouted foods, sprouted grain if you're eating bread. So those kinds of things that are healthier for you. Roy Barker  22:46 I just asked her yesterday we bought something and it said sprouted and I asked her what does that mean? So Terry  22:52 thanks for some sprouted lentils. And 22:55 yes, so that Roy Barker  22:56 just means that it's young, younger in the growing cycle. Dee  23:00 That's when it's, it's the most nutritious, okay? Because it is the like you can even get vinegar that has the mother. That means that it's giving life. So you want to get food that's in the giving life stage. Okay? Because if you if you get go to a store and you get broccoli and it's slim, there's no life force in it, it can't give you anything, okay, so you want to get veggies and fruit as close to off the vine or off of out of the ground as you can get them because that's when it's going to be most life giving. So if they're frozen if you're eating frozen vegetable, if they're frozen at the at their ripest or if you can sprout your own mung beans and I did that for a while I grew my own wheat grass. Because I you know, doing the three years I did regress twice a week. I mean, I'm sorry, twice a day. Oh, wow. Okay, now just squeeze in a week. Yeah. You know, you take a bunch of wheat grass, you take this much of wheat grass and you get this much juice. 24:14 Oh my god, Dee  24:14 but that juice the wheatgrass juice and you can look that up. And this is something that you might want to look into Roy, because it's going to cleanse your body. Like all the waste that your body is holding on to that's what makes you sick. And that's what makes you stay fat. Okay, Roy Barker  24:33 I'll check that up. Dee  24:34 It's wheat grass and sunflower seeds, sprouts. You know, there's those that you put on your salad, it's gonna make your salad. Don't put wheat grass on your on your salad but sprouts put them on your salad. wheatgrass the body can't break down is to phosphorus. fibrous, so you want to juice that oak but spring outs, like broccoli sprouts, they have flavor. So if you if you're having a sandwich like zucchini, man, I'm telling you guys come to my house. And it'll be delicious. Okay, because it has to be because otherwise you're gonna want to go eat somewhere else. Yeah. But if you do, you know, a simple wrap, like, you take a Ezekiel bread wrap, because it's it sprout it, and then you spread hummus on it. And then you put a layer of sprouts, and then zucchini. Okay, and then you can put some shredded carrots and put peppers, things like every all of these things that have flavor, and then sprinkle some. I go to Zoe's and get there. Do you guys have always there? It's like a Mediterranean restaurant. Yes. And and I buy their seasoning. Okay, because it's already mixed. It's all instead of me going to my cabinet and getting all this stuff I love there's so I just I put it on everything. And then to some salt and pepper. And then you roll that up and you have this fresh. So good. Sounds great. Yeah, it just happens in there. And then there's, they make. It's, I think the food industry is catching on. Now. They're making more plant based foods. Roy Barker  26:43 Yeah. Dee  26:45 So you know, if you shop but you just have to know where to shop to get them. You know, to get the things that tastes delicious. Roy Barker  26:53 I'm sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt your story. If you want us finish, tell us about your journey. I just think I thought it was interesting that we were just talking about the sprouts, sprouts last night because I was like, I don't even know what's good. Yeah. Dee  27:06 It's good. It's good. So basically, that's the story is just, you know, I went to the Health Institute, instead of going to chemotherapy, and I didn't know what I was gonna do. I was like, you know, you don't know what you're gonna do. Everybody's coming to you, hey, do this, read this book, drink that take this shot, go to that place. I mean, everybody was an expert in cancer. You know, everybody is my cousin had cancer. And she did this, you know, so everybody's telling you all of these things. And you don't know which one to do. Everybody's journey is different. So I did go to the oncologist and sign up to have chemo and had an appointment to get my port put in. And I remember sitting there thinking to myself, I cannot do this. I cannot do this, but I went, because that was an option, right. And on the day, I was supposed to start my first I to get my port put in. I found myself on the road drive into Hippocrates. Wow, I don't even know why I got the money to go to Hippocrates because it wasn't $12. Roy Barker  28:17 Right. Dee  28:19 But I went I showed up. And the first part of it was just a detox like that first week. I was just detoxing. My head was hurting all the time. You know, and I had, I had three roommates. And all of us were crappy. You know, if you ever had a headache, and somebody is trying to talk to you, or you hear somebody else talking on the phone, like everything was bothering me, oh my god. So but then everybody was going through this, this detox. And then we just were you know, we're building the body up. And it wasn't just food. There were also different treatments. Asana, I still do sauna. I have a personal sauna. I do a sauna three times a week. It helps with detoxify your body. If you have cellulite. That's toxins in the body. Okay, yeah, I've Roy Barker  29:11 heard that that there's a guy that he actually developed a like a sauna routine because Well number one, it's you know, I've always heard it just sweats the poisons out of your body but he had developed this routine where you know, you go in for so long and then you come out cold shower, hydrate, yeah, go back in but it was a whole process that he developed. Dee  29:34 We had all of that there. Okay, it's a cold plunge. Okay, so you come out of the sauna, and then you go into the cold plunge. And then you go into the it's a saltwater pool. So and they had all of those things there for us. So, coming out of a hot sauna going into a cold plunge pool. It's like needles on your skin. It wasn't something because you're supposed to just play To the pool, oh, yikes. So I would just step in and then want the needles, needles, needles, and I get down in it for a little bit. And then I go to the saltwater pool. So we did that, draining the lymphatic system, getting the lymphatic system going, because that's also how you are releasing toxins from the body. So just jumping on a trampoline. So in the morning, we get up and jump on a trampoline. Or you can go to the you know, the little personal trampoline, or go to the, to the gym, and there was this thing that we stood on and it was Shake, shake. So all of those things are releasing the toxins plus colonics. I know that sounds extreme. But look, I had cancer. Yeah. colonics. And we were doing go to the website and see all the stuff that we were doing because it may sound extreme to the people and I don't want to scare people. Eating was just part of it. How we were treating our body, this vessel that carries our soul. What is the important thing and loving ourselves? Terry  31:16 Well, and How is your health now? That was three years ago? You said? Dee  31:22 That was 2013? Okay. Oh, Terry  31:25 that was a long. Okay. Okay. Dee  31:27 That was 2013 No, I I said I was raw vegan for three. Yeah. Okay, so I, I am, I call myself a flex, vegetarian now because I eat meat sometimes. And I eat meat when I crave it. Yeah, if I, if I'm craving it, that means that it's something from the meat that my body needs. But most of the of the time, you know, like I said, I'll make a wrap. Or I will have a, you know, some kind of I like this brand is it's a frozen brand is called rabbit. I think it's called rabbit food. But it's like, you know, the their bowls, and they have qinhuai and veggies and all kinds of really good stuff in in those. Okay, so, and I eat pizza, cuz I love it. Well, you know, but I, you know, I'm just making sure I know that when I'm eating it. I'm just like I call I know what I'm eating. But most of the time is, you know, I try to eat clean. Roy Barker  32:34 Now, that's our approach is that, you know, it's not, if we wanted meat or fish or whatever, it's definitely okay to go have it, it's just, if we're not craving it, trying to stay off of it, just, you know, like you said, Our body is a vessel and we need, we need to take care of it. And because what we see is so many people you get once you get into older, become older, then all of a sudden, you know, you start having things happen because of the way you live when you're younger, and then you can't recover from that. And so, you know, my hope is to be in a little bit better place. But anyway, I think the the body as a vessel because it has the eating, but then we have to think about our sleep, our mindset, you know, we need to have that positive outlook gratitude. And you can, you know, I'd be glad for you to speak to that portion of it as well. Dee  33:28 Yeah, mindset is everything. I mean, my I do this thing with my clients where it is I help them with their life categories. Okay, so life categories are things like work home, education, leisure time, how you, how you spending your life, and I have them, choose the categories and then rank them. So I show them an example of mine. And spirituality is ranked number one in mind. And my spirituality doesn't mean church, because I haven't been to church and I don't know how long because I that's not how I do spirituality. My spirituality is all encompassing, it is my personal connection to what I call source. And when and how I commune with source is through meditation. I believe that prayer is talking to source or talking to God and meditation is listening for the answer. So that is when I'm quiet. You know, I may go to source with a request or a need or even gratitude, and then it's my turn to listen for the answer. is an in that quiet is when I get the things that I need. I used to go I don't know, I don't know, I don't know and spending 30 years in the military, that wasn't an acceptable answer. I don't know. So I descripted from my vocabulary I was I rarely said, I don't know. It was, I will go find out. Let me check on that. Yeah, that's what I substituted. I don't know what so saying it, I don't know was it was like a failure to me. So I had to get over that I had to get over is over, saying that there was something wrong with me not knowing. And then going into meditation, saying, I don't know what to do. Help me. I don't know what's next. I don't know the answer, and just being still and quiet. And then I would just, I would hear it, or I would dream it, or I'd be in the shower, and I would just be downloaded with all of this information. When you were I got a lot of my inspiration. Like, oh, yeah, I'm gonna do that. Let me Hurry up and get out of here. So I can go and do it. Yeah. But it was always the answer to what I was needing. But I had to be in that space to listen to it. And I did that all through my cancer journey. That's when I was the closest to God is through that journey? Because that's when I just surrendered and said, I don't know what to do. I don't know what the answer is. You know, I'm, I'm just surrendered into this. And I'm just going to go where I'm led to go. So that is my mindset with this is there is a spiritual answer to every problem. And that comes from Dr. Wayne Dyer. Wayne Dyer, Dwayne Dyer, Wayne Dyer. Wayne Dyer. So he says, There's that and he actually wrote a book called there's a spiritual answer to every problem. And that's what I believe. So my mindset is, how do I get help for whatever this problem is, that I can't solve? By what I already know. Then I go outside of me for that resource, not to my husband, or my uncle Jimmy, who uncle Jimmy is like, he's like, he's the vegan max. Man. I'm telling you, he's anything you want to know about veganism. My uncle. We had a whole conversation yesterday, he was telling me something else to eat. But anyways. So in the spiritual practice, stems everything else that I do in life. It's my coaching. It's, it's the work with my clients. It's the speaking as the workshop is the books that I wrote, they all come from that stillness, that moment, those moments when I've just been quiet. So I'm divinely directed on everything that I do. So that gives me this positive feeling that feeds into everything. And all that stuff that used to bring me down that I used to care about, I don't anymore the things, you know, that I used to care about what other people thought about me or my family, and how things looked. You talk about optics, especially about being a naval officer, everything was how things looked. Right. How you present yourself, and I used to tell my husband before we went places, okay, we're going in with my people. Don't talk about your toenails. Okay, so my husband is a marine. And so, we had these two, two sets of friends and he was enlisted Marine, and I was a naval officer. So to to set two different sets of types of people. So I felt most comfortable with my husband's people. But my work was these people from the Navy, the Naval Academy and Admiral disan. Captain this in general, that, you know, so and I was a public affairs officer. So I did a lot of work with, with the higher echelon in in the Navy. So when we went to these affairs, I would tell my husband, okay, we're not with the grunts. Gonna have to do this because this is how it looks. And this is my community. The community is small and everybody talks. If I want You get promoted, then you need to be polished when we go to these things. So my husband goes on staying home. Terry  40:09 Oh, man, I don't blame him for that at Roy Barker  40:11 all. It's interesting, though. Dee  40:14 Yeah. Oh, no, I'm Roy Barker  40:14 sorry. Go ahead. Go ahead. No, go ahead. No, I'm just gonna say it's interesting because I have another business show, and I just had a conversation with the guy. And we were covering these kind of the same things like the recruiting, you know, we were talking about knowledge on paper versus I want somebody that is self reliant enough or self Terry  40:39 confident? Roy Barker  40:40 Well, I guess mindfulness of themself or in their moment that it's like, they don't have to have every answer. You have to know when to go seek the answer, and or how to go seek the answer, not necessarily having all the answers. And then the other thing about the facade is, you know, a lot of businesses, you know, there's a great book, and I wish I could she's an upcoming guest on the business show, but she talks about that most businesses have a facade, you know, you look at it, and you think, well run this is this, but once you pull the curtain back, there's total disorganization, and everything behind that. Yeah, I mean, yeah, I just think it's, it's a parallel to our personal life. I mean, we've got to get our personal life squared away. And what's important to us and I like that spiritual side, because I'm the same way my, my connection right now, you know, is going for a walk, I can take a 15 minute walk, and it's like, cleansed fresh ideas coming in. And but you know, when you're sitting here, on the computer, or right in the midst of it's hard to, it's hard to gain that clarity sometimes. Dee  41:52 Until you get up and walk away. Yeah. Yeah, and release the mind, you're releasing this, the subconscious mind. When the subconscious mind is engaged, it's going to, it's in charge, basically, because it's feeding you all the things that you believe. And then when you get up and go for a walk, you disengage from that subconscious mind and you're conscious. That's why mindfulness is so important. You're not on autopilot anymore, which is the subconscious. It's, this is how we do this. This is our regular routine. This is what we believe in, and how we do it. When you're conscious, you can change it. Roy Barker  42:35 Okay. And Terry  42:36 so, I was gonna, I'm sorry, I was gonna ask so how, how much time do we spend subconsciously thinking versus consciously thinking like throughout the day or week are? Dee  42:51 Your subconscious mind is 24 747, that's 24 seven that's always on 24 seven. So like, when you go to sleep, you're not conscious. You're not dead, but your conscious mind is engaged. But your subconscious mind is Yeah, yeah. You know, so it's always going on it's always it's, it's a tape this plane in the background even now. Roy Barker  43:18 So how does, how does hypnosis tie into this? Because I guess it it kind of reaches out to what's in the the unconscious mind to pull that forward? Is that a correct way to explain that? Well, Dee  43:37 somebody use my hands for that. There's these four, four pieces on that decides our behavior. Okay? So are five pieces, there's events that go on in our lives from zero to 10 years old when we're babies to about 10 years old. When information is just coming in. And then it gets stored in the subconscious mind like a file like file cabinets. And some of that information changes. If we can disprove it, like Santa Claus. Hopefully no children listening. Oh, sorry, guys. Yeah. There's no Santa, Santa Easter Bunny Tooth Fairy, all those things that we are taught or shown when we're children. We're excited about them when we're when we're kids. And then something comes along for us to disprove those things. So they're not stored anymore. They're stored as a memory, but then we still have the truth with them. Then there's other things like if you for example, if you believe in God, if you believe in God than that, and and that is your rock solid belief and you and it's there until unless some Then comes along to disprove it, it is your belief. Right? Right. So we have trillions of these beliefs. Because they've, we've been conditioned with them as kids. As Don Miguel Ruiz says, he's the author of the Four Agreements. He says, we've been domesticated, to believe these things. Like this color is blue, that's red, this is yellow, we've agreed that these are the things our beliefs, so. And then along with those benign beliefs, like the colors, we have events that happen in our life, say, for example, you burned yourself on the stove. And so now the belief is fire is hot. Fire is dangerous, it's an event. And you remember it, because it was a traumatic event or something profound that happens. So that is the event that causes the belief. Events, or, or repetition and conditioning causes the belief. Why is that important? Because I beliefs make us feel the beliefs make us emotional. And that emotion is what drives the behavior. Okay. So for example, if, when it comes to our health, if as children, we were conditioned, that sugar is bad, sugar is bad, sugar is bad, we were never given sugar. So our belief is, sugar is bad. The feeling is when you get something that has a lot of sugar in it, you will just go you're feeling oh my goodness, this is just so bad for me as you're feeling. So you You're, you're really pointing in about whatever that is, or sugars dangerous. So you have fear around it. So what you do is when somebody serves you ice cream is you push it away. That's the behavior. So if fork and the opposite is if someone always if you did something great. And you were rewarded with cake. Yeah, your belief is, yeah, when I do something great. I'm reward, this is a reward to have something sweet. And that makes you feel good about yourself. And then a splendid Dairy Queen. Roy Barker  47:35 Exactly, exactly. Dee  47:37 So you're getting the pleasure from that eating things is pleasurable, and it makes me feel like a winner. It is my reward. interest. So the behavior is I aced this thing at work. Now I'm going to Dairy Queen, that's the behavior, right? So the subconscious mind all this beliefs, drives the behavior. And everything that we do. It's all coming from the belief. So how. So if you want to change a behavior, you need to figure out what the belief is that drives this drive in that feeling. So many times when we talked earlier about where we're feeding something that is not hunger, we could be feeding an emptiness, an empty feeling that that that you associated with pleasure, I need pleasure. I feel empty right now. So how do I get that pleasure? I remember that eating gives me pleasure, because it makes me feel like a reward, like I'm rewarded. So I want that reward feeling right now. Interesting. So I'm going to go do that. So all of that little stuff is all tied together. And when you recognize that you can change it, you can change that belief, like eating doesn't have to be associated with a reward. What else can you do? What can you replace it? It's good to have that is it's good to have the feeling of being rewarded or the feeling of pleasure, or feeling of happiness. But what can we replace the eating? Yeah, to still get that feeling of happiness? Well, and so you can change that belief. Or you can change that belief, the belief to I'm amazing anyways, the belief is I don't have to be, you know, I don't have to be amazing with a banana split. I'm amazing with a sticker, or whatever that is. But so just if you change the belief, you can change the behavior. Roy Barker  49:54 Yeah, that's easy. Talk that through. I think maybe you know, when you're down are not feeling good. That's another reason I guess you seek out that Banana Split is because it's that trigger of the memory of Oh, that was a happy time or that was a good time. So if I had me some ice cream, I'm gonna feel feel that way. Yeah. Interesting. Dee  50:14 What are you really happy for? Right? I mean, what do you really hungry for it? You're hungry for an Attaboy you're hungry for acceptance. You're hungry for acknowledgement, right? Roy Barker  50:30 Wow. That's pretty insightful. Yes. That's good. Terry  50:36 Yeah. Roy Barker  50:38 Yeah. And then it gets back to being mindful of taking the time to know what that feeling is and why, you know, and then you can kind of sort this out of why we're doing that. Yeah. Dee  50:50 And were you asked about hypnosis on how hypnosis works with that, or was it uteri? So knowing this process, these things, hypnosis, what I do is I regress people back to the initializing event. So that first event where they begin where they stored, or created that belief, Roy Barker  51:13 okay, Dee  51:15 so if there's something traumatic right now, we're talking about something we're talking about pleasurable, it's like, you know, but even then, we would go back to that event where you were given the ice cream every time you did something and give you an ice cream. So we would go back to that first event. You were you were three years old, and you peed in the potty. So and then you get something every time you pee in the potty. So you would say that in hypnosis, I peed in the potty, then we would we I would talk to you. And I would say things right at that time, and I would just go give yourself a high five. What do you want to do? I want to go get ice cream. And I would we would make some corrections right there. And I would say Roy instead of ice cream, because adult Roy finds this as a problem. What do you want to do three year old Roy to to change that instead of what do you really want? What you really want is approval from your parents. So they can put on potty music for you what I that's what I used to do for my daughter. We used to play the music it was some song that says party dance party party because she was being conditioned to dance after okay doing party. So we could change that they're in hypnosis. And the reason why it works so well in hypnosis is because it's an extreme form of focus and, and relaxation. And there's no interference from this thing called the critical factor. The critical factor is the thing that analyzes and discerns everything okay, it's part of the conscious mind. Interesting. So that is not activated when we're in in hypnosis. So it's nothing blocking you from taking in this new information and making it your new belief. That's why hypnosis is so effective. Roy Barker  53:12 Right? Okay, no, that's cool. I you know, I've never really thought about it that way but you know, it makes sense and goodness my problems are multiplied times three because I had like both my both my grant one set of grandparents they had the Dairy Queen up by them so it was always that was the celebration I had another grandpa that they had a local drugstore that was you know, going to the soda fountain and getting a banana split and then my dad he had a place out by his office so it's like you know, it my world has seen now that I'm thinking about it my world revolved around ice cream No wonder I love ice cream Yeah. Dee  53:50 Was that a reward? Or those rewards for something you did? Well it Roy Barker  53:55 rewards are just like Sunday Yeah Dad or you know just like whenever I was a little kid and go to work with dad, it might be like three o'clock. Let's go take a break you know, so we go down there you know at my grandparents maybe mowing the yard or doing some chores it's like Hey, you got that done? Let's go you know so i think it was a combination of a way to take a break and socialization but also you know, definitely that reward in you know, growing up the way I did it was like you know you had a bad day well let's go get something to eat that'll take our you know, my grandma she cooked cakes and stuff like well here's this piece of cake or you know the other you celebrate you know, did something good Yay. Let's go Oh, you don't feel good. Oh, you need to eat you're feeling great. Let's go eat You know, it seemed like everything was everything was a trigger. Dee  54:42 And that's how that's how most families are. It's centered around food. Terry  54:47 Yeah, everything is Roy Barker  54:48 and then that socialization part two, because you know, the pandemic has kind of been a little different for us, but you know, we miss going out with like our daughters and kids and going out and You know, meeting somewhere and just the socialization or going with friends. But, you know, there's other things that we can do. And that's kind of one thing we've talked about in the past a little bit, was that that reconditioning of you can socialize without having to, you know, eat, eat things that aren't the healthiest for you. You can have a glass of water or a lettuce wrapper, you know, there's ways to make adjustments, I guess, is the thing. Yeah. Dee  55:31 Sounds now. Terry  55:34 Anything sounds good right now? Roy Barker  55:36 Well, I know we're way long be and I appreciate your time. Is there anything else that you want to enlighten us with before we wrap this up? Dee  55:46 Well, I do want to talk about self esteem. Yes. All of this certainly self esteem and how you feel about your self esteem is how you feel about yourself. And it's everything, okay? Because you will treat yourself like your best friend. If you love yourself, okay. And for your listeners that might need some help in that there I have a free workshop is self esteem is a self esteem workshop. It's It's Sunday, it's a it's not a work, stop. It's a five day challenge. Okay, raising your self esteem. Okay. So, how do you get there? I have to send you the link. Yeah, Roy Barker  56:26 no, no, that's because the link is pretty long. Okay. Now we will post all of your stuff in, in the show notes as well. But now self esteem, let's let's Can you just expand on that just a little bit? Because, you know, it's it's a thing we feel bad about ourselves. And I think, you know, we talked about this in the business into LOD is, we are most of the time, we're the hardest on ourselves. If I have if I have 10 things on my to do list today, and I get seven done. I'm like, I missed three. 56:59 Thank you. Roy Barker  57:01 I should have you know, I could have done this. I could have done a banana split for you. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Instead of just half one flipping that script and saying Holy smoke, I got seven done 70%. If I could hit 70% in the major leagues, I'd be a gazillionaire. So I mean, there's something to that. And the that positive stuff that we run in our mind, you know, we've talked about that again, but we get to choose whether we run negative or whether we run positive. And so, you know, just like me, I don't think about it a lot. But you know, you think out of shape and not looking the way I want to or I can think of I'm making efforts to get where I want to be, you know, I can take that positive spin on it. So I'm sure I'm sure that's all interrelated, correct. Dee  57:50 It is, it's all of it. I'm loving every part of you. Even the parts that aren't as attractive to yourself as you like. But it's, it's where you are right now. And many of us think I can't love myself until I know, fill in the blank, whatever that is. self esteem is loving yourself right now as is. Right now as is. That's why people sell houses and cars, and they could still they can sell things as is because somebody still wants them. Right? Yeah. So why should we discard ourselves? As is? Roy Barker  58:33 No, you're right, in the journey, you know, we need to enjoy the journey. Because I think the other part is we have this hollow goal that you know, when I get skinnier whenever I get the new car, the new house, we have those things that's gonna make me happy. Well, when you get there, it's like, okay, not really. Yeah, Dee  58:51 wherever you are there, wherever you go. There you are. Exactly. Terry  58:55 Yeah. Dee  58:56 So I think Oh, there you are. So if you're not happy at the big size, you're not going to be happy at the small size either. You just might like what you see the reflection in the mirror, but she's still that self love is everything Roy Barker  59:09 right? And, again, this is affects so many things about ourselves, not only our weight, the way we interact with our loved ones in our work life. I mean, it just ripples through every every part of our life. Dee  59:27 It does, yep. So and if you want a mindset, if you want to work on your mindset, I have a mindset membership called mind shift membership, and it gives you daily things to chew on. Okay? It gives you meditations, visualizations, there's hypnosis, there's daily inspiration, motivation information, there's free courses, and you can get there from deewoolridge.com. Okay, so if you're if you're looking for mindset if you don't know how to change your mindset, and you don't really want to do a challenge or a course, this is an everyday thing is 365 days. Oh, wow, you get information, it comes straight to your email right now. Yeah. So just Yeah, well, there we go check Roy Barker  1:00:20 that out. And we'll we'll say, we'll be sure and put the links in the show notes as well. Well, thank you so much for taking time to be with us. It's been a lot of great information. And I know me and Terry have benefited and hopefully, we'll have some audience members that will as well. But yeah, I mean, be happy. Love yourself, take care of yourself, and where wherever your journey is going. Enjoy it as you go. Terry  1:00:44 And if you don't know how to do it, get a hold of date. Roy Barker  1:00:46 Yeah. One more quick thing not to be too morbid, but the, you know, there, there's just been a lot going on lately about, we never know when we're going to take our last breath. And I think that's even more of a reason to be thankful and have that gratitude is that you just never know when you or your loved one may be taken away. And so, yes, kind of put a little more emphasis on that just being able to tell somebody Hey, I love you. You know, you're awesome to me, as Terry is and yeah, we just, you know, I think we need to I don't think people say that enough. And then there's just been some, you know, some people that have passed this last week at very young ages. That just makes you think that you know, we're always living on borrowed time. So make the best of it. Amen. Yeah. Dee  1:01:41 Second that, Roy Barker  1:01:42 yeah. All right. Well, thanks a lot. I tell people, how can they reach out and get a hold of you for more information? DeeWoolridge.com is my website and all of this stuff that I was talking about? is on that website. If you want to know more about hypnosis, you can go to San Antonio hypnosis.com. And that's my website for if you want it, you know want a session or you want a consultation, San Antoni hypnosis.com for everything else. DeeWoolridge.com, okay. And that's Dee spelled out d e e.  Okay, great. We'll put like I said, we'll include all that. But just somebody driving down the road wants to pull over and look you up. We will make sure they get to the right website. Dee  1:02:31 Yeah. All right. tastic. Roy Barker  1:02:33 Yeah. Well, thanks so much. Again, appreciate it again. We you can find us at Of course, www dot feeding fatty.com. We're on all the major social media platforms, as well as all the major podcast platforms, iTunes, Stitcher, Google Spotify, we're not a one that you listened to please reach out. So that's gonna do it for me. Terry  1:02:54 D Thanks so much. We appreciate it. You really shed a lot of light. You explained it in ways that we hadn't had it explained before. Appreciate it. Dee  1:03:03 It was my pleasure to drive here. Terry  1:03:06 Okay, that does it for me. Sorry. You were wrapping up. www.deewoolridge.com www.sanantoniohynosis.com www.feedingfatty.com

Feeding Fatty
Selfcare is a Must In Order To Excel In a Leadership Position

Feeding Fatty

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 27, 2021 68:22


Selfcare is a Must In Order To Excel In a Leadership Position with Paul Glover Selfcare is a must in order to be the best leader we can possibly be. Days can be filled with adversity and many decisions coming at you rapid-fire. It is much to get enough sleep, eat right, exercise, and practice gratitude in order to perform at the highest levels day in and day out. Paul also has a great story and is very transparent about his journey. About Paul I am the No-B.S. Work Performance Coach. I’m based in Chicago but I work with clients throughout the U.S. I am also a “recovering” trial lawyer, an unabashed Starbucks addict, and the author of Workquake™, a book dedicated to those in the work environment seeking to not only survive, but also to thrive in the Knowledge Economy. In 1994, Paul was a successful federal court trial attorney.  In 1995, he was a convicted felon, serving 7 years of incarceration in Federal Prison. How Paul and his family managed to overcome the personal and professional setback he inflicted on himself and his family and how he built a successful national coaching practice is Paul’s personal case study about overcoming adversity and setbacks through resilience and grit. Paul’s messages to those who hear him speak is: “we don’t succeed in spite of our losses, but because of them” and “before your life can change, you need to change.” Through keynotes and workshops, Paul illustrates how those faced with setbacks, either personal or professional, can develop and use resilience, mental toughness and grit to take the challenges they face and transform them into growth opportunities. www.paulglovercoaching.com www.feedingfatty.com Full Transcript Below Roy - Feeding Fatty - Selfcare is a Must In Order To Excel In a Leadership Position (00:00:00): Doing is we chronically my journey. I am on a journey to get healthy, get fit, get in shape. And so what we do, we talk a lot about our individual situation and Terry - Feeding Fatty support of that. But we also have guests professionals from time to time. And today is no exception. We've got an awesome guest, Paul Glover's with us, and his message really resonated with me. So I just felt like, you know, we really had to get him on the show. He is the no BS workforce performance coach. He assist organization, team leaders and teams to reach their full potential and become high performing. He's also a recovering trial lawyer, which we'll let him talk about that for sure. Uh, Starbucks addict, uh, Chicago's bears fan. He is the author of work quake. He's also a speaker on business and leadership topics and a member of the Forbes coaching council. Paul, thanks for being with us. We are excited to have you with us. Paul (00:00:58): Yeah. Thank you so much, Roy - Feeding Fatty - Selfcare is a Must In Order To Excel In a Leadership Position and Terry - Feeding Fatty, it's a privilege and a pleasure. Yeah. Roy - Feeding Fatty - Selfcare is a Must In Order To Excel In a Leadership Position (00:01:02): Yeah. And you know, um, I think what resonates with me and, um, I meant to tell you pre-show that, um, the last, since we talked earlier, you know, it's really been resonating with me about not only the healthy part, just for Terry - Feeding Fatty and for having a much better life, but, uh, the point you make about it enhances our leadership qualities and makes us better leaders and also helps us to set an example. I mean, I think that's such an important message that, um, I think sometimes we miss that. We, we always think that, you know, we're no matter what condition our body may be in that we're operating at the maximum capacity and that's just not true. Paul (00:01:50): You're absolutely correct. It is. And it's amazing to me, how many leaders do not make the connection between their physical soul and their mental self and how both of those have to be aligned before you can lead a high-performance team and before you can be a high-performance on your own. Uh, so yes, part of my coaching process is to remind that person that is in a leadership position, that there is an obligation that they owe to their team to make sure that they are doing self care and self care we're supposed to the physicality, as well as the mental aspect of, of who they are and what they need to do so that they can perform at that high level and help people and other people, uh, reach their potential. Roy - Feeding Fatty - Selfcare is a Must In Order To Excel In a Leadership Position (00:02:40): Yeah, because there's just so much that's coming at us every day. And, uh, I tell you, uh, there are days that after it's over, I feel, uh, as washed out as if I'd have climbed a mountain, you know, just sitting here thinking, and sometimes I kind of jokingly say Terry - Feeding Fatty, I'm I'm, I over-thought today. You I'm kind of a little bit sluggish here and when we get through, but it does take a toll on you and everyday, lately. Paul (00:03:06): Oh yeah. I think that the pandemic has added that extra layer of, of Mead to first be aware of the toll, the emotional toll that the pandemic is taking, and it was not good bet. It actually has nothing to do with the impact on you. It has to do with the impact on other people in our society. And as we interact with them as leaders, whenever you have an interaction with a team member, if you're doing your job all the time, that interaction is over, there's been a transfer of energy. If you're doing your job, you hopefully are giving that person a jolt of energy. Uh, but at the same time, you're taking stress off of them by doing that and adding it to your own burn. And we often forget that and that at the end of the day, we not only have our own stress, but we have that accumulated stress from 10 members who are suffering through situation that we're trying to help them with. Paul (00:04:07): That, you know, one of those things about let's separate work and life. We keep talking about this weird balance that we believe exists. And I think that pandemic very clearly showed that our work in our life is integrated and that it's stress in our life. We don't get to leave it when we go to work. And so it comes with us as a team leader. We have to be cognizant of when a team member is starting to suffer from the amount of stress in assist them with wellbeing. Uh, and but when we do that again, we achieve them rate their spots and you need to do something with that bottle. I, to think what people to do is it's so gratifying when I feel like I've had a tough day, the first thing I should do with the pie I deserve, I've worked hard to get that pie. Paul (00:05:00): It tastes good. Somebody made it and I'm going to eat it, or let's, let's get more serious. I'm going to drink, uh, over eating and drinking are two things that I've seen increased dramatically among leaders, just because they are trying to alleviate the stress that they've accumulated now, worst way to do it ever. Uh, I actually believe that that increases stress. Oh, how again, because your body now has to deal with what you're doing to it. You have the stress may very well be mental and physically are you psychically dealing with that emotional, but when you start taking that and abusing your physicality, then you start over eating then over drinking and not exercising, not sleeping enough. Well, guess what, we now have that double whammy. Yeah. And the reality is that it just, it destRoy - Feeding Fatty - Selfcare is a Must In Order To Excel In a Leadership Positions your ability to be an effective, Roy - Feeding Fatty - Selfcare is a Must In Order To Excel In a Leadership Position (00:05:56): I would assert as a, as a stress eater. Um, I've not, you know, fortunately I've never been, uh, you know, a big drinker, but I am a big eater and, you know, I don't, I think it satisfies us without dealing with whatever that was. So I think, you know, just for the moment, yeah. And we accumulate, well, not only if we are, are we accumulating the excess weight? We're probably are, it's harder for our bodies to digest, to, to use that. But then we really haven't dealt with that underlying issue. And the other thing I was going to say right quick is I, I, I don't know about this because Harry is very supportive, but I would assert that it's the opposite that we can carry our home life over into our work life. So if we don't have that squared away, you know, there's really no separation. It, it, it, at the end of the day, it all just really blurs and runs together. Paul (00:06:51): It does. And again, the pandemic I think has because of what it's done with work, right? It's eliminated 40% of the workforce from going away from the home to actually do their work. And that's a shock while people, I mean, I'm much, if everybody whines about the fact that they've got a commute whines about the office, reality is that it's an escape for some people, they get to meet the home environment and go someplace else where even though they have a job, the reality is it's a much different level of responsibility and stress. A job stress is still there by the way. And obviously you've got a bad team leader. You will suffer as if you've got a bad marriage. It doesn't go away and you paid that price. But most of the time people go to work and, and they're okay. Yeah. It's, it's a change of scenery and they appreciate that. Paul (00:07:43): The pandemic of course eliminated that. And we weren't able to adjust real well. That's why, when I hear about people who want to go back to the office, I know I can tell them things are normally not going well for you because you should not want to go back to that back page. Right. That's the way I look at it. We are still managing officers with an industrial age mindset, right? We're, we're all about. Uh, and by the way, I look at it, unfortunately too many, too many managers as if they were prison bars. And by the way, and I'm going to, obviously, we're going to get to the fact that I am an expo. And so I'm real familiar with prison guards. And I could tell you that there are supervisors at vantages who would, if you gave them the, the, uh, the uniform and the club, that's exactly what they would read in the workplace. Roy - Feeding Fatty - Selfcare is a Must In Order To Excel In a Leadership Position (00:08:35): Wow. Nope. You're ex you're exactly right about that. It, and for Mo you know, I guess, uh, it's off topic a minute, but it just say that, you know, that comes from not having good hires. You know, when we don't make the right hires, you know, we feel like we have to stand over them. Where when we give, we make the good hires, we give people the tools. They should be, you know, there's, uh, saw something the other day. It said, you know, they should be telling us what to do, not as telling them what to do, they should be. And I had a team builder that I talked to on the business show the other day. And, you know, she was talking about a lot of times when we hire people, we feel like they drag us down because we have to now manage them. But that's a bad hire. We should be hiring people that push us forward and really help us accelerate all again, off topic. But I do understand, you know, what you're saying about the, um, know that prison analogy is that, you know, watching the clock, what time did this guy come in as a time to let them out for lunch yet? You know, can we let them go home? Just Paul (00:09:39): It's. One of the biggest complaints about working from home is that we don't trust people to do the work. And therefore we put surveillance on the theater. Uh, we don't try. We just know we, we feel like we've got to watch the, you know, the bucks have to be in the seats so we can watch the blood work. And the reality is out of an eight hour day, but butts only do 2.5 hours. So apparently it's not working well. Yeah. It tell you that that system does not engage people. Uh, Gallup does the research, 35% engagement across the United States. And by the way, we celebrate that as if it's a victory. It's not a victory. It's a defeat when we have that many people, 65% of our workforce, that it, that are not engaged. It's not working. I scream, I cannot understand readership that when you said about how you hire people, you're absolutely correct. We don't want to be managed anymore. People find it offensive and it's with the exception of one group, but we were going a little bit off topic. I know that's not what we're supposed to be talking about, but what the reality is that that, that, that mindset of I'm gonna manage you is our cake. Yeah. And therefore it causes people to do one of two things, the absolutely stress or be rebellious, and either way you get less productivity. Yeah. Yep. Roy - Feeding Fatty - Selfcare is a Must In Order To Excel In a Leadership Position (00:11:06): Yeah. And that, you know, for me, of course, we don't have kids, you know, we're at that point in life that it's the two of us and we are pretty responsible adults most of the time. And we could sit and do our stuff. And I actually thrive at the house because I don't have the interruptions of being in an office. And I jokingly say that, you know, 20 years ago when I went to an office downtown, uh, I thought it was really cool. You know, you go out for lunch, go out after and have a drink, but then it got to be, as it started, it turned into a social club. And then, so I'd start shutting my door because you know, what happened was people would come by and want to chit chat all day long. And then at six o'clock I'm like, yeah, okay, well, I can start my work now because I've had all my socialize. Roy - Feeding Fatty - Selfcare is a Must In Order To Excel In a Leadership Position (00:11:53): Well, I shut the door. Then people would just bust through the door and actually got where I put a chair in front of the door where they had to have a little more effort anyway. So again, way off, let's get back to getting healthy. So let's, let's talk about some first steps. Um, you know, we talk a lot about not only our diet, but sleep and I've admitted, admitted to you that, you know, sleep is usually the beginning of the downfall for me, for the not exercising for the not eating. And then it's like bad decision-making and then it's like maybe even a little bit of a shortness. So anyway, let's talk about how sleep affects us, you know, in, in our leadership roles. Paul (00:12:33): Well, again, uh, the research and I am a research week shows that if you don't get enough sleep, and when we already believe we know how much sleep is enough sleep, we know we continually trick ourselves. We believe we can get back, but we still think we're in college. It knows what to call it. And I'm going to cry. I'm going to stay up all night and cram for the test. Uh, and then of course we think we're going to do well on the test. And reality is we don't, uh, so sleep sleep they had in performance are intertwined. You can't escape it, right? We, we, our body needs a certain amount of rest. And by the way, I look at it, it's not just some rest. It's a certain kind of risk. You actually have to get into REM sleep. And that requires the environment, allow you to do that. Paul (00:13:19): It also means that you've got to distress enough so that your mind stops race, uh, because it is a, you come home and, and hopefully, you know, and again, I think that people say, well, three or four glasses of wine and, and I'm good to go. I can, I can lay down and go to sleep, but not tell them that is not good sleep for you. Right? So, so the reality is that if you don't get enough sleep, your level of performance is that a big drunk driver, you have lost the ability to be in full to a certain degree. You are, you are waiting to have an accident. You're waiting to make them wrong decision. And you had said it, Roy - Feeding Fatty - Selfcare is a Must In Order To Excel In a Leadership Position, you get sure, right? Why? Well, we're tired. We're tired. Every everything becomes more acute for us, right? We're, we're, we're more aggravated by a situation we're aggravated by people. Paul (00:14:13): Uh, when I was a practicing attorney, I made sure that my client was never sentenced in the afternoon because I knew that by that time, the judge who probably cranky in the morning was out only cranky, but he was tired and he would look at the hip and my client differently. And I guarantee you, because research shows it, he would give out a stricter sentence now. Huh? That's just the way we operate, why we get tired? And once we get tired, we don't like people that they are a nuisance to us, push them away, deep members, can't it. And by the way, team members are pretty astute, right? They're not stupid. They say, Hmm. I can tell them that the boss is not in a good mood today. The boss is tired of it. Stay away from him. Don't tell him the truth today, because that's what it amounts to guess what that situation that needed to be discussed and taken care of. Paul (00:15:10): Doesn't get discussed because the boss is tired of it. Oh my God. This is a recipe for disaster. Yeah. So yeah. So the sleep aspect of it when I talked to my clients about this, because I believe that it's a part of my obligation to point out the obvious. I tell people I make, I make my living off of pointing out the obvious. We know these things because when I asked you what you should be doing as a client, they'll tell me right away. And then the question is, are you doing it right? And that's where we get the hesitation. Why? Because they're trying to figure out candy telephones more than a lie to him, right? You're like when we go to the dentist and they say your, and he'd go every night, I probably got tired of saying that. I said, no, I don't loss. Paul (00:15:59): And he said, well, you should. I said, I know that, but I don't. What do you want me to tell you and write to you again? So anyway, he said no, by a flossing machine, instead of the threat, actually that works. Ah, that's what I look at with, with my clients. I go, let's talk about what is going to make you sleep right? And we had that discussion. Uh, you have to have a sleep environment. It has to be dark. Uh, you have to not eat or drink when you go to bed. I mean, there's this whole list of things and them. And then, then of course, a part of my job is to say, if you agree to do this, so you can be a better leader. I'm going to ask you when we talk next, are you doing no? And I had a pretty good in time. Paul (00:16:45): And if I can sense that you're lying to me, we have a different discussion. Right, right. But what people are willing to try step by step. So, so back to that, I don't want to overreact to the sleeping thing. We put the door in one of the aspects of self care, but it's a very important one. The people don't pay enough attention. Yep. My son is a perfect example. They have like, they have a mattress that I wouldn't let a dog walk. And I talk about, I said, I will, you need, you need a better mattress. I'm just, my dad mean it's like, you're sleeping in a hammock. You and I know that it impacts him because I can tell when he's had a bad, night's sleep so bad back on time. So, so there's a whole list of criteria that I will be with people being a better leader. Roy - Feeding Fatty - Selfcare is a Must In Order To Excel In a Leadership Position (00:17:30): I think it's important on the sleep is, uh, like you said, it's, it's more than just laying down or being in the bed at night and waking up in the morning. There's a lot we need to do to prepare ourselves for that rituals. Yes. Yeah. And I'm going to, I'm going to turn this up just a little bit where Terry - Feeding Fatty can, Terry - Feeding Fatty, can you, well, Terry - Feeding Fatty (00:17:50): You know, but Oh no, this is a setup, Paul (00:17:55): Which you said the magic. She said the magic word enrichment. Yeah. We need a sleep ritual that we follow just without fail. Why? Because that's how we get to the state of being able to sleep. And part of that has got to be how you do stress from the deck. Yeah. And, and meditation is something that most leaders know about, but feel, it's it feel it's girl, most of my clients are male. And when I talk about some of their stuff, they're like, well, you know, our old, you want me to do yoga naps? Maybe. Yeah. Terry - Feeding Fatty (00:18:32): They could only dream of being girly. Paul (00:18:35): Exactly. I told them, I said, well, players [inaudible] bounce. So stop reading this stuff. Doesn't matter if it doesn't work, can you try something else? But buy it open-minded enough to try it. But the ritual is extremely important. Same type of bed every night, turn off the devices. Or know what if the president of United States wants to get in touch with him, believe me, the secret service would get there. Those world. You don't have to stay awake. Wait for them. All right. So, so it's important to turn off the devices. People will leave their notifications on, make me nuts. You really need to hear the Dean have another text at midnight. Yeah. Don't do that anyways. So yeah, we've got a whole, a whole situation, but that's extremely important to in Richmond. Terry - Feeding Fatty (00:19:26): Yeah. I th I thought that was the setup part. Cause I we've been trying to not use our phones before we go to bed. You know, I like to go through there and check out the social media and look at the hits. Look at the jokes. Look at now. Paul (00:19:43): Oh my God. It'll keep it. Yeah. I, and I know that everybody has their own methods too. And I've got mine. My wife and I, 10 30 is cut off. I've trained myself to work 10 30. I don't care. What's going on. I'll tell people, you got to want it. It better be the weekend because I've got to get up in the morning and I've got a five o'clock I'm more. Yeah. And I've got to be prepared to go through six or seven hours of coaching. And the last person of the day is entitled to my complete attention and energy level is the first person I to do that if I'm tired. So at 10 30, everybody goes away and we go in and man do the brush and floss. And then, and I turn on Perry, Mason. Oh yes, this is my red school. Paul (00:20:35): Can I go? I don't want to see any of the beginning of permits. I want to get to the core because I can't, I don't practice them. We're right. And it was sorry, as it may seem watching Barry, basically everything, it would be 10, 15 minutes. I've gone. That's how I do it. It takes my mind in a different place. Right. And it's not necessarily entertaining. I think I've seen them all like six or seven, eight times, but it just got a trick with trips, the trigger, right. We're constantly tricking ourselves to do the right thing because we apparently can't do it on our own. And it might go in and I don't turn it on. My wife goes, turn on, turn off during this. And by the way, she hates paradise and she knows that I'm going to go to sleep, but then she can do whatever she wants. It doesn't matter. But anyway, that's the rich, you know, I'm also up at five o'clock in the morning. It does. It's not five Oh one and I don't need an alarm. Roy - Feeding Fatty - Selfcare is a Must In Order To Excel In a Leadership Position (00:21:33): Yeah. Now I think he made a good point about your clients. And I, I, I guess we, we can put this in the, every manager's point of view is that the very last decision that we make of our Workday, we should give it as much time, attention and thought, and we should have the right attitude and be in the right place as we did for that very first one. And so that, that's a big deal if we think about that, but let's, uh, talk about some other points of self care. Uh, you know, sleep definitely for me is very important, but what are some other things that you talk about? Paul (00:22:06): Well, and you know, my experiences, uh, it is, I tell them, I, again, there's a research that shows if you're the CEO or president of an organization, you may have the same personality as a serial killer. And I believe that I was as a trial lawyer, you got some of that. I mean, that's just, that's what the followup probably was confrontation in combat. I mean, it really is. The judge is there to keep you from killing each other and make sure that you abide by the rules of the game, but it is exactly that. So your mindset is, is really very much about winning at all costs. I, and by the way, uh, the concept is for every hour in court, you've got a trial, you've got four hours of preparation. Oh, wow. And when you're in trial on trial, you've got to leave that courtroom and go back to wherever you are and air the next day. Paul (00:23:02): Because once you're on trial, you may go through your four weeks in this year, four or five days a week, depending on the judge has scheduled. But it is there's no, there's no relaxing, right? So I would actually get a room downtown. I have, since I practice in federal court. So I didn't have to commute back and forth. But the reality was that there was no way that any lawyer that I knew that was probably, or could keep up that pace, uh, without, without hell. And at the time, uh, it was drink yourself a you can sleep right. And drugs, cocaine was the drug of choice for me. And, uh, obviously you can't do that warm before it starts to have an impact on your ability cook for, but it would get you through the day. Right? And so at some point go, uh, I was disrupted self-destruct. Paul (00:23:53): I tell people that self-inflicted wounds is, is where I got all my stars, but most people, other people have given them scars. I would give myself stocks. Uh, and I did that. And I think there were a lot of leaders do that. They, they don't be the softer thing. They do just the opposite. They do self abuse and they believe that they should get away with that. Well, my, uh, my self abusing days, and then when I went to post, because suddenly my life changed overnight, I went from being the guy that was in charge. It would be that hard drive driving attorney that had that win, win situation at all costs, including cheating. Uh, I had that self abuse when it came to alcohol and drugs, and I hit a, an environment that, you know, there's all sorts of prison rules that I have that I developed that actually they had carried with them when I came out. Paul (00:24:47): I don't think anymore. Definitely don't do drugs because I found out the first, it turned me into someone I didn't want to be. And second, it has an impact on you physically and mentally. And I just don't have enough of that. Well, uh, I've got to be able to protect what I've got now, but when you show up and it doesn't, and the first thing that, uh, that they tell you is you ain't running nothing and that's the case. And you don't want to be a lawyer to most in prison because the experience is not a pleasant. And the warden made sure that the first day I showed up, we had a personal conversation that was after I had a full-body cabin search. And the easy told me in no uncertain terms, if I find out that you're helping anybody else with their case might find out you're breaking the rules. Paul (00:25:34): I will send you to the higher security prison behind the wire, where you'll be with the real bad who was in prison. And it's not a holiday, believe me, but it certainly isn't. There will be guys who have been convicted more. Yeah. Uh, and so my deal was don't make my time any harder or any longer. And from that point on to make sure that prison for five and a half years, it didn't destRoy - Feeding Fatty - Selfcare is a Must In Order To Excel In a Leadership Position me. I went into self care, just no drinking, no drugs exercise every day, every day, seven days a week. I, the track walking, doing weights, all the things. And I never would've considered doing in my week prison practice wouldn't have done it. You couldn't have convinced me. Uh, and, and I survived five and a half years and came out of prison in better shape and nine. Yeah. Wow. Mentally sharp. Paul (00:26:31): Uh, why I took the Medicaid, I met dish. Uh, I did, uh, I did philosophy. I did the mental things that kept me, kept me curious and alive and vital in a, a prison setting. Uh, I tell people the worst part about this and is how boring it is. And it is long pieces of time that it was absolutely boring, punctuated by violence. And you've never know when there's going to be that whole situation. Yeah. So you have to be a world because you don't know what the guy next to you just heard from his wife. Then maybe he got the dear John letter that, and that guy is now ready to explode and give him any point whatsoever we will do. But with the boredom is what you had to deal with. And I dealt with it by keeping myself entertained because prison wasn't going to entertain. Paul (00:27:26): So when I came out of prison, I had a routine that I, that I then applied to my life back in the world. And he got into coaching. I said, let me make sure that what I'm doing has relevance to my clients. And it turns out that it has absolutely does so that when I talk about self care, I talked about the experience that I had then, and I have now because I, the guy that gets up and goes to work as a team leader is required to do all of the things we talk about taking care of himself, but taking care of the team, right? And at some point it takes a total. It's all about how are we going to remedy the toll. And that has to occur in a couple of different ways, work the best and for when you're not at work, but it also has to approach art because I tell people, you need to watch the matrix because we all are a battery and we get up here good morning. Paul (00:28:27): And we hopefully are fully charged. Now we're not fully charged. Let's have the discussion about why we're not right. That's because, because we ate too much, we grabbed him up. We didn't get enough sleep, whatever it may be. Uh, so we need to be fully child. That means let's stop. Let's look at the night before. But from that point on during the day, you are slowly losing your energy out of that physical battle. And that, that starts to impede the mental process, the decision process, by the way, the workplace does not care. If that's what's happened to you. Yeah. They don't care if he had a bad night of work bad, and I had a sweep level, they don't care if it's been a bad morning, none of that matters to the workplace, right. It just going to keep coming. And that's your job. You either, you either decide that's my job and I'm going to do it to the must of my ability. Paul (00:29:18): And if that's true and you believe that, and you accept your obligation to the team, as well as to yourself, then you need to make sure you were on peak physical and mental vision. Just like an athlete. That the only difference is we don't get the practices waiters because we're actually doing it every day. We don't, we don't six days and then perform on but seven. And that gives the athlete the advantage. And by the way, every, every athlete I know has a coach. You know, whether they have a coach, even though they are professionals, they still need to get better, right? The situation around them, the team they're going to play. The person on the other side is getting better. They have to get better too. So, so for leaders, they have to continually not only be in the moment they have to prepare for the next month and during the day, the battery starts to, it starts to lose its power. Paul (00:30:18): That means that during the day you have to do what you can to re-energize yourself, how you do that is as important as what you did the night before. Are you getting are reading correctly? Well, let's go. Let's all go out and have, uh, a, uh, a McDonald's big Mac, uh, the large order of fries, because the small orders never enough. Can we have 32 ounces of sugar and water? Let's do it. Let's let's really have a lunch. That's going to kill us off where we close, where we cut back. I don't care what you think your body's saying all the blood that used to go to your brain. So you can make a decision has now gone to your stomach because we don't have a choice. We got to deal with that alone, down there. And guess what? That's, when you start to become dumb. Paul (00:31:10): I, you know, it's a curiosity. I believe that most decisions, depending by the over the track list, the don't wonder is our after watch, we have the three o'clock slot. I don't mean I can tell you all of the things we already met. So when I'm talking to my clients, it's about first stop that, stop that eating and breaking that is to you in the afternoon. Not telling me not to eat, but I'm telling you that you have to be cognizant and buy it all the time. If by the way people are like, you're just like the Grinch. I mean, when do I get to have some fun? Okay. Would you have them as long as you're willing to tell me the cost, all I want to know is the cost. And if you're willing to accept the cost, then one of two things, either I have to question whether or not you should be the team winner, right. Or you have somehow managed to work it out. Somehow I'd tell me, tell me you've got the magic wand. Right? Cause I like to hear that, but I don't see it. No, one's got it yet. Roy - Feeding Fatty - Selfcare is a Must In Order To Excel In a Leadership Position (00:32:15): Okay. I was just going to say no, no, you're fine. I was just, you bring up a good point. And um, uh, you know, I have to put myself out there on this one and that is a big thing for me. It's like when, uh, when we're eating right. Uh, I feel a little bit, I feel a little cheated. Let me just put it that way because you know, I was like, and my favorite example is not long ago. Uh, Terry - Feeding Fatty fixed an awesome, it was salmon and asparagus dinner. And we had enough for lunch the next day. And I, I didn't realize that. So she was out, she called me, said, I'm heading back home. When I get back, we'll eat. And I was like, Oh, she's going to stop and get us a, uh, was so excited. She goes, stop at the Chick-fil-A and she going to get us a chicken thing. Roy - Feeding Fatty - Selfcare is a Must In Order To Excel In a Leadership Position (00:33:04): And some of those fries sandwiches, and the next words out of her mouth was, yeah, we've got that salmon and asparagus. And I, I will not lie to you. I just deflated all the outlet. I saw it through the phone and it's, it's so bizarre that, you know, I let food, uh, drive that emotion. And you know, so one thing that we talk about all the time is we're trying to shift that mentality from food and fun, you know, to food is to live. And then we should find other things to be fun. We could still go out with friends, but we don't have to eat all the, you know, the bad stuff that is around that. Or we can get a veggie plate or a SA I mean, there's things to do if you really think about it. And the fun is going out to be with friends and socializing. It's not because we're sitting there stuff in our face with something live to eat, it's eat to live. Yeah. Paul (00:34:02): I believe that people look at food as a reward. And if I be sure, because I've been good all day long, I deserve a reward for that. And the reward is going to be like I said, hi. Yeah. So, so we have to have that mental cheat, by the way. Let me tell ya. I am a terrible eater. I, it, in Italian beef and sausage sandwich, that's like my blood. I need it. Right. I tell her I'm half Italian. I, every once in a while I got a grease up. Well, it's every once in a while it's daily. And when I do that, by the way I have, I, you know, I, I continually trick myself. That's the only way that sometimes I'd get there. Right. And one of the tricks is this ring, my wedding ring when I am eating poorly. I know because I can't get it all white. Paul (00:34:58): I mean, you swallow up smaller because of the sodium and the rest of that grip, your dad, Ray will be tight. And I know. All right. Just dumb. Exactly. Right. Thank you. See right away, you sound like my wife dumb today. Yeah. I can't get my ring off. Yeah. Well, that's that Italian beef. We had last review. And yet it is, it is, it is truly just changing our mental outlook on food. Yeah. W we don't need as much. Oh my God. The proportions in the United States, please go. Any place else in the world. I love pasta. And the deal is, if you go out to a olive garden, if you've got it, they get whatever they have. They give you a meal, plus a meal to take home. Yeah. That go to Italy, you get about a quaint, you get something like that right up in a pitch in the Palm, your hand, it's delicious. And it's enough. Yeah. Yeah. Well, it started hitting. We can't turn it off now, Roy - Feeding Fatty - Selfcare is a Must In Order To Excel In a Leadership Position (00:36:01): You know, and we're so conditioned, at least, um, in my environment growing up and I'm not blaming people for it. I'm just saying, this is just the way it is. It's that? So, uh, you had a bad day today. Well, let's go out and get something to eat. That'll make you feel better. Or it's like, um, Oh my gosh, something went great today. We'll, let's go eat and celebrate. You know, it's like, it's like trying to deprogram a little bit from everything revolves around that food. It should revolve around, you know, our conversation in our relationships. And we can figure out a way to be more healthy and still do that too, because I'm, you know, and I, again, I'm saying I'm guilty of that. I feel like, Oh, well, if I can't go out and have the fried appetizers and the big old, whatever the meal is, and maybe have a couple drinks, well, then I'm just not going to have fun. And that's, that's not true at all. Not true at all. Paul (00:36:54): Well, and I've found that I'm an automatic either. If I've got it, I've ordered it and I'm, well, it was just really going to taste good, but I'll get engaged in the conversation with someone and I'm still eating. Right. They haven't stopped. And suddenly I realized I've had the entire dinner. I didn't taste any of it. It's just gone. And so, so you're absolutely right. Why would we go out? We should be going out, not, not to dinner, even though that's our socialization. Yeah. We're going out for the company. We went out for the, the vet entertainment, whatever it may be. So, yeah, no. And let me get the last one, because it, it, obviously the exercise is huge and everybody has to be dedicated to exercise. Like I tell people once again, these are, and by the way, I'm a strong believer in developing habits because when the habit you stop having to make the choice to were terrible, given the choice between the pie and the salad, I take the pot. Paul (00:37:55): However, if the pie is not even there, I don't do anything but the sell. So I removed the term age. Right. And we do that through the development of habits and good habits. Exactly. Remove temptation. We don't think about it. I am. I, again, once I get to the exercise part, uh, at five o'clock and then the alarm goes off, my exercise goals are, are at the side of the bed. I get dressed and I'm out the door. If I were to stop and turn on the computer or look at my wall, I never make it to the gym. Right. And so I refuse to do that. I've developed a head and I'm fine with it. I go, I do my, and come back. I get my coffee. That's my reward. By the way, I believe in rewards. I get my Starbucks. And then I actually looked at my phone. Paul (00:38:42): I refused to look at it until what, because then I'm ready to start the day. But we've got to develop that. And exercise is one of those things, absolutely critical. A hybrid form. You have, your body has a body needs to move. That's built into us, right? I mean, the whole concept of who we are is so connected to the physicality of who we are. And if we forget that we can get that. I don't know how many thousands of years we still are as that, that, that prehistoric guy coming out of the cave, getting ready to go hunting veteran. It's all about being physical and you can't ignore or avoid that, or you pay the price. And the issue is more to pay the price. And again, I go back and I connected to being the team leader. If you want to be a leader of a hyperchloremic team, you are the model. Paul (00:39:37): Therefore you have to perform at that level also. So that's your obligation. You tell me, you want to prepare your observation. If you're doing, you have to exercise. I also believe that even though exercise at the beginning of the day, the end of the day, whatever you want to do, the concentrated exercise is important equally as important is what are you moving? Are you moving during the day? Because again, we are wearing down as the day goes on. Are you getting up after every 90 minutes? Because that's what the research shows you cannot focus well, more than 90 minutes, get up and do a physical activity. What do I recommend walking? Yep. Go outside. Outside. Well, we had been getting the vitamin D being outside is refreshing to your body. The air smells good, right? It's not the air conditioning. It is fresh air, but as best as it can be, and you do the wall 15 minutes all the way. If you want to take a call while you're on that, because I got some guys who just can't build it that way, take the call. Just don't stop moving. Terry - Feeding Fatty (00:40:44): It's especially important. Now that everybody's working from home and they're just sitting in their chairs, fixed to their desk and do it. Yes. Yes. Roy - Feeding Fatty - Selfcare is a Must In Order To Excel In a Leadership Position (00:40:55): Well, and I will say that I, when I started wearing my step counter watch, and it's embarrassing to actually admit this, but in our house, when I would stay in and work all day, I could end my day with less than 600 steps. I mean, it's just, yeah. I mean, it's ridiculous. And so we really have to fight, but that is something that we've been doing, uh, some days easier than others, but try to get out and go for that walk in the morning, just to 10, 15, 20 minutes, nothing hard. Just taking the dogs out. It gives us a good time to, to have some conversation about day and how we're going to start it, what we're going to, who's doing what, when and where. And, uh, you know, I told her, I guess it was yesterday morning when we came in, I just felt so fresh and vibrant and ready to jump in and tackle things. It's just amazing how that makes me feel. Paul (00:41:50): And that's how it makes everybody feel if they do it. And I, as I am today, assuming that it's not a blizzard out, there's a woods close to us and my wife and I go, and we do a 45 minute walk through the woods specifically through the woods, because I'm a believer in what they call forest washing. Well, if you've thought about it in that, but it's a Japanese thing. And they have the research shows that when you walk through a forest, it has a different impact on you than if you're just walking. And that's about the trees. There's this whole thing of interconnectivity with trees and how, if there was a forest, if it is an environment that's being created and the reality is walking through there, it actually is like a wash. Your can wash. You go over, you will wave. Now. I am a big believer in stuff that I know works. And I know the walking through there not only refreshes me, but it actually makes me more creative. Paul (00:42:53): When I walked out of that forest. After 45 minutes, I'm usually I've got two or three things that suddenly are apparent to me. I, you know, I knew a point to the day, every day, it goes out to my subscribers and I'll come out of there with three or four points. It just something that's working in my head that suddenly is available through this process. And people were like, that doesn't work yet. You've got to go and really do. You've got to commit to it and, and commit to it a couple of weeks. And before you you'll notice, when you stop, that's not good. Roy - Feeding Fatty - Selfcare is a Must In Order To Excel In a Leadership Position (00:43:27): That's an interesting concept because we live in a very wooded area and I'm the same way. You know, it scares her when I go walking by myself, because when I go out, I'll come back. I'm like, Oh my gosh, I got like five great ideas. Get your pencil and paper out. And let's talk about this stuff. And she's like, yeah, Paul (00:43:45): But I truly believe that that, that is a part of this process that we don't understand the Japanese do. And like I said, it's called horse washing. I recommend that. And people like that, no, I'm not going to do that. Okay. Then just get out and walk in the center. I don't care where you're walking close to the trees. That's true. Look at the trees. But the reality is that that during the day we need to reenergize and you don't want to take, no, everybody does a coffee, but okay. You're artificially stimulant. So by the way, I, it Starbucks fanatic. I've got it in my Bible. I won't stop. If I'm not doing five of them a day, it's not a good day. That's crazy. And yet I can show you the health benefits of coffee got this. My wife would say, yeah, let's stop. Paul (00:44:39): It's so important that you're overdoing it, but don't just go to the coffee machine because what's going to happen is you're going to engage somebody. It's not going to be at 12, go outside, take your cup of coffee with you. Walk, get some exercise, come back in. You'll feel better. You'll be more alert. And by the way, I love the concept of the afternoon. Now it's just not realistic. You know, the whole concept of 20 minute nap. If three o'clock in the afternoon, it makes absolute sense because it, it can't be any longer than 20 minutes. You're going to run to sleep. So the reality is drink a cup of coffee, take your 20 minute nap. And how do you wake yourself up while we've got own? It's got an alarm on it. I mean, I'm kidding me and wake you up and you get up and move a revitalize, but we're looking for that push for the end of the day, right? Because that's, again, if we're not doing these things, we start to make that decision. And nobody is going to say, if your boss walks in and says, I need an answer on this, are you going to say, well, wait till I get a good night's sleep. Paul (00:45:45): They're like, what are you talking about? That's true. So, so yeah, those are the things. And again, I wish I could tell you there's something revolutionary, but if it was, I would have written a book and retire. No, these are common sense approaches that I don't believe most coaches are willing to address the clients because they think that's too personal. Yeah. It is absolutely connected to performance. And I bill myself as a no BS workplace book performance call, I'm going to talk to you about your performance promise. I'm going to start at that basic level, not how you're interacting with anybody else, how you're interacting with yourself, or are you taking care of yourself? I don't believe you can take care of others if you don't take care of yourself. Right. That's right. That's been an underlying theme lately for all of our speakers. So there's Roy - Feeding Fatty - Selfcare is a Must In Order To Excel In a Leadership Position (00:46:41): The other thing I wanted to tie into this rack quickly is just, uh, you know, you said earlier, if we make these habits, they're not decisions anymore, but I think we can go a little bit deeper into that for just a second, that the amount of decisions that come at us every day, we have to develop these routines and habits. And, uh, your old friend from Chicago, the ex president Obama he's famously for having, um, and you can tell it better, but I think they're all gray suits and the same ties and everything. So he just says, look, I got hundreds of decisions I have to make every day. You know, when he was president, the last thing I need to do is decide, is this the right color tie to go with this shirt to go with this coat, with these shoes and these socks. Yeah. Paul (00:47:30): And you're actually growing it. It's called this decision fatigue. Yeah. And you're right. Let, let's eliminate the, the necessity of making the decision. Right. And by the way, we, we, if, if we keep having too many temptations, we inevitably make the bed. Right. Right. And by the way, that's also beads in the delegation of the issue. Because when I started listening to the decision, we're making one, like, seriously, you're being paid. How much to make that decision. Right. That's that's not yours. So anyway, but you're absolutely correct. And so eliminate the decision-making process, reduce it, take it away. And by the way, I I'm, uh, I'm, I'm really huge about talking to my clients about big rocks, which are the big rocks that you are, you are required to move. Because if you're telling me that you're not spending your time and energy on the big rocks, 80% of the day, you've got a problem. Paul (00:48:32): You can't move the big rock, otherwise getting rid of the locks. And everybody's like, well, how do you make that decision? I may actually come up with a big rock, a filter. And that everybody has to, when you, when you say to me, I'm going to take one, a task, a new task is like, let's go through the big lock filter. Well, wait a minute that doesn't, that's not a big rock. It's not attached to a big rock. It's not anything that has to do with a big rock. Maybe change locks, because I'm all right with you telling me, this is now a big rock, but by the way, that's not what you're telling me there. I had a guy across of a company that occupied his time looking at t-shirts that were going to be handed out. Oh my goodness. I don't have any problem with you looking at two or three t-shirts and picking the one you like, that should be like that. Paul (00:49:22): Oh my God. He was involved in the manufacturing similar from China. Oh my gosh. But, but by the, well, see, he liked that he liked doing that. That was the simple, but I said, so let him, and I also believe time audits are required from time management. Therefore, every one of my clients has to do a monthly time on it. At the end of that day, then we do 24 hours. We then take a look at how you're spending your time. And that's where I get to say, that's not how you should be spending your time. Yeah, no, like when you don't understand the, I absolutely. Obviously you don't know how to say no. So let's talk about that, right? Because we can't say no, you can't read a team can't we, it, uh, so, so let me get one more thing that I missed last time off people, don't take their vacation basically crazy. Paul (00:50:18): You've got five weeks of vacation. You worked your butt off all year, and you're not going to take your vacation because people won't think you're interested in work that you've given enough of yourself to the job, but you shouldn't take your vacation. Americans leave 30% of their vacation hours unused, and they don't even get paid for it. In most instances, you really, to revitalize by getting away from the work environment, going someplace, I don't care where it is go someplace where it's different lecture. So be relaxed. My contention is you need a week before you relax that decompression does not take place overnight. The concept of getting to wherever you're going is usually worse than, Oh my God, did we pack the Paul (00:51:21): All home along? Wait a minute. One of the kids when the kids have done. So, so Ms. Russell getting there does not mean, you know, everybody says why I walk or who you're not, you're not all working to actually got where you're going to go. And then you can start. Yeah. And the deal is that's the time when your brain starts to work on interesting. It's not been one day, not the usual, by the way, if you're doing your emails and your, whatever, I have a client and I test one vacation and I send them an email. If they answer, um, they get an email back. What the, uh, are you answering this email? Well, I thought it was, God stopped baking to do that thing. You're on vacation and it required walk your life. You're doing that. Then you're not doing what a vacation school. Paul (00:52:22): Once again, revitalize reenergize, and hopefully give you a different perspective. What's interesting about country chattering was going to a different culture, not being in the American resort, but actually going out into the, what the baby is. Habitat is extraordinary to me about opening your mind. Don't [inaudible] we don't know American though. We don't like that. We don't like anything. Good. I mean, if it's not a handbook, but we know after you've been in Japan and had sushi like this in the bounds around, Oh God, a whole night, otherwise we need to go farther into the concept. Now that is so, so all of this is about making you better. So when you come back from the vacation, you absolutely are ready to be a better leader. Maybe more open to an idea, by the way, just a great book out by Adam Grant said that I can remember who babe it's think again. Uh, and I've recommended that to everyone in my coaching program, because he talks about the need to be thinking and rethinking how we do what we do. Yeah. Roy - Feeding Fatty - Selfcare is a Must In Order To Excel In a Leadership Position (00:53:37): There's a lot of research out there. It was a first pointed out with children, you know, that we have them. So over-scheduled that they don't have the opportunities like I did that. You know, you walked out of the house on a summer day and you found the rock and a stick and you figured out something to do with that all day, we were a little more creative and I think it translates into our adult life. If we are so bogged down in all of the, you know, the daily stuff, how can you possibly be creative? And you know, me and Terry - Feeding Fatty have this conversation a lot that, you know, sometimes during the week we get bogged down, just, um, you know, producing things and get on them out the door that we really don't have the time to think about innovation and new and different things. So I, I can say from a personal experience, you've got to do that. You've got to take a few, take some time during the day, take some time during the week, make sure you get those vacations in because you will think a lot more clear and be much more creative for sure. Paul (00:54:38): Well, I believe that one of the traits of a good leader is being curious and you can't give cure lists, your stays look at the same thing. The same thing every day, your mind gets, gets that structured. You know, that's what we're looking at when the work is that work is all about being structured. And once we get in there, I mean, my father worked at general motors as a electrician and he hated being in the plant, but he was in Southern Indiana and was the best beans album in 200 miles. And so he did it, but they're there and they told him, Oh 45, when you, once you had leave your mind at the time, I don't want you thinking, we're going to tell you what to do exactly, do it. But I don't want you thinking about this doubt. I don't want you to about making the good, want to hear any of your ideas. Paul (00:55:32): And we like to think, because I love the fact that, that one of the arguments about coming back the office is how everybody's going to get together and ideate. First, I even hate the word we can all put together and ideate, right? And from there, we're going to have this innovative creative surge. Well, like it, I think it, you know, I'm not sure where this is supposed to happen, maybe in silicone Valley, but I'm not so sure about that. Either ideas don't go from the bottom up. They're forced on us from the top down. And so thinking that everybody comes together and has a creative explosion does not happen. In fact what the Mimikyu Nicholson, but he goes to their desk wherever it is. And then we're locked in on. Right. And so, but back to this time on weekend time, absolutely decompress. Yeah. Well that's when you should, that's when you should be more physically active, don't go out and kill yourself playing football, but we'll take that extra walk. How about that? Yeah. Yeah. I love people with dogs. A dog will make your, get up, go outside, right. They come to you with the waist and I'm like, dude, really? Paul (00:56:49): And I think that that's why we have to be forced to do this. Roy - Feeding Fatty - Selfcare is a Must In Order To Excel In a Leadership Position (00:56:54): Yeah. If we are, if we sleep past about six 30 in the morning, we got two of them that are sitting there staring nose to nose with Paul (00:57:12): [inaudible]. But those are the things that we need. We need to force ourselves up because how we are living our lives is not natural right now. There is nothing natural about how we live our lives, right? And therefore we are in conflict with who we are naturally in rehab to somehow resolve that conflict. So that we're, we are absolutely able to live a better life because that requires a lot of work requires a lot of attention, but it absolutely can be done. We know. And again, I know I'm beating the same drum. We know what to do, right. Why aren't we doing it? Well, it's hard work. Oh my God. Is that the worst things going, excuse me, worse than that is I don't have enough time. Like seriously, don't even start with that. That's not the problem. It's what you're doing with your time. That's a problem. So, so, you know, everybody's got the same 24 hour buddy. I'm sorry, but if you can't get your job, but we need to look at you back. Yeah. So anyway, but, but yeah, so, so we need that. We need to align and we need to live our lives according to not only our mental reeds, but also our physical needs. And we often wet our physical lead acts, second place realizing that the negative impact is going to have on our mental and our spiritual. Now Roy - Feeding Fatty - Selfcare is a Must In Order To Excel In a Leadership Position (00:58:36): You are exactly right. So true. Yeah. I'm sorry. I got to go do my time audit now. Paul (00:58:45): Well, by the way, it's a 24 hour audit. Nobody gets, everybody's like, well, I'll just do it through my work. No, I don't even start with me. I want to know what you're doing for 24 hours, because you're going to tell me how much you're sleeping and how much of your time at home is spent working I'll guarantee. It's a couple of hours a night. Well, yeah, but you know, I had dinner with the kids and then I put them in the bed. And so what was I supposed to do? I don't know. But if you're telling me that the best thing in your life at eight o'clock at night is to read company emails, kill yourself now serious. Like, no it won't. Because all they're doing is killing yourself slowly. Get it over with just saying life is not worth living after seven o'clock. I got to shoot itself. Paul (00:59:33): There's Perry, Mason Perry. Mason is waiting 48 hours. Well, no. So if you're going to do a Taiwan to do it for the entire 24 hours in a half hour chunks, and you got a, I'll send it to you. And it's also an energy I, time is cool. Your energy level. When you're doing something is necessary, you've got to look at it and go, here's a score. I have low energy, by the way, the task that I'm doing during this period of time, it doesn't let me have more energy. I've got to be consequent. Ah, now we get to talk about what you have to do for that period. Immediately work that your energy gets backed up everybody. And by the way, I w I get so many good pushbacks are notorious, right? Paul (01:00:27): I'm sorry. You were telling me every day is different from what you do for a living. Because, because I, I would love that. I don't care who you are. If you're working in American offices every day is structured the same. You may be able to shove them around a little bit, but the duties don't change the past don't change. And you're stuck in that environment. So, no, I don't want to hear that. What I want to hear is that you're going to do this and become aware of what you choose to do would be aware of this is entirely up to you, but it gives us the conversation. Roy - Feeding Fatty - Selfcare is a Must In Order To Excel In a Leadership Position (01:01:00): No, that's, that's another great point is the self-awareness the minute we can become aware of how we feel at certain points or how things make us feel. Um, it, it changes, everything changes all of our dynamics Paul (01:01:15): And, you know, writing the deal is I look at people and I will, okay, unaware. Then we have aware, how are we going to get there? Well, there's ways three 60 reviews, a time audit, all sorts of objective information is needed to call somebody to say, I need, I need to change. So just me saying it to anybody, it doesn't really impress them. They're like, yeah, you don't want my life. Okay. Well, let, let me give me a glimpse. Give me the 24 hour or let's do a three 60 with your team to find out if you really are a fantastic communicator. I mean, then at the end of that, so we've got the unaware. Then we get the aware and then we get to the group. I love the best, the aware, but I don't care, right? Oh yeah. There is a group of leaders who will tell you flat out, I don't care. Paul (01:02:08): I'm not changing what I do. You know, my deal is the most difficult person to coach is someone who's successful. Right. They're afraid that if they change that, that they're going to be successful. Right. My argument is, you're not as good as you think you will. Yeah. Yeah. That's right. Oh yeah. Half a wife is random. You were fortunate that the random part been too, right. Seriously, your lawn was working 120 hours a week. And believing that that's sustainable. Come on, man. Don't be stupid. And by the way, after, after he bucked himself, he admitted that he was wrong. Uh, and, but you know what the model works for awhile is the employees are free to go home. Oh no. And he's sleeping in his office. I can't go home because he'll think I'm not engaged. Well, he's stupid. But nobody would tell him that he needed a cost. Do diminishing returns. At some point you may think you're making smart decisions. You're not making your bed. Nobody even knows what you're saying. Right. Roy - Feeding Fatty - Selfcare is a Must In Order To Excel In a Leadership Position (01:03:14): He's listening. Yeah, exactly. Well, Paul, we appreciate you taking time out of your day. I know we ran quite long, but it's just, uh, you know, it's a pleasure speaking with you and you have so many good insights. And, uh, we just want to try to soak it all up. Not only, you know, for our audience gets to benefit, but you know, me and Terry - Feeding Fatty, I've taken a lot of, I've got a whole two pages full of notes written down here. So, uh, but before we go, we always ask what is a tool that you use in your daily life that, uh, really adds value tool habit? Paul (01:03:51): Um, I may, uh, in the morning after when I get my Starbucks, I'm walking back to, that's a block and a half away. I do my gratitudes because I believe that positivity is too. And you are in control of positivity. If you want to think negative thoughts, you're going to have negative instead of positive. I need to reset realign my unwind before the day starts. And on the way home, I'm driving to the gym, I pray. And I say, well, you know, that's not you should. I communicate with my God in my way. And you know what so far, he has not hit me with a light. I don't care. Who's given me some hard lessons. By the way, my conversation with him is always, Hey, I've given you everything you need to succeed and you don't. Well, let's talk about that. He's got to buy cold gentlemen to see him walking, but I didn't talk to him. Paul (01:04:55): Uh, but, but the reality is coming home from Starbucks. I spend that walk doing my gratitudes. My gratitudes are always about what I have to be thankful for in my life, because often we start, we get how, how life is good for us. I mean, I, and you had said that conversation about him, very endemic is not the people. I am so grateful for that. So I do my, my gratitudes. I know my, I do my family and friends and I thank God through the ability that I have to earn a living, doing something that I care about. And that's that to me is the ultimate characteristic of a coach. You've got to care. Roy - Feeding Fatty - Selfcare is a Must In Order To Excel In a Leadership Position (01:05:44): Yeah. And I, I really enjoy, uh, enjoy your passion. That's why it's such a pleasure speaking with you because your passion for all of this really does come out. And I know you'd make, uh, you know, people in our audience, a great coach. So, you know, we want you to reach out to Paul, give him a go, Paul, tell people, how can they reach out and get ahold of you. Paul (01:06:03): I am such a simple guy. It's called paulglovercoaching.com. That's how you get you just get the dot-com [inaudible] well also on LinkedIn or we're coaching. Uh, you know, I don't do Twitter. I don't, I think that's where maniacs go to scream. Don't do that. Uh, but, but, uh, that, that's where you can finally, I've got a YouTube channel, home, global coaching that YouTube. So that's how people can

The Bob Siegel Show
Ancient Corroboration Of Jesus, His Miracles And Resurrection -The Bob Siegel Show Ep 165

The Bob Siegel Show

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 5, 2021 17:38


  Bob discusses testimony about Jesus from ancient sources and historians, OUTSIDE of the New Testament, many of whom were not followers of Christ but still refer to His trial, miracles and even resurrection from the dead! Click on your podcasting platform below to subscribe to The Bob Siegel Show: Apple  | Google | Spotify […]

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Minimalismus Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 20, 2021 28:24


Selim hat mir bei unserem Raclette Essen vor Weihnachten erzählt, dass er sein Smartphone in Frage stellt. Wir haben kurz darüber gesprochen und ich habe mich gefragt: Brauche ich das Smartphone wirklich? Auch wenn ich Menschen kenne, die kein Smartphone haben, könnte ich mir dies nicht vorstellen. Aber hört selber, wie Selim sein Smartphone entsmarten möchte und ich der Meinung bin, dass ich das Schweizer Taschenmesser des 21. Jahrhunderts in der Hosentasche habe.  Bringt Dir der Podcast einen Mehrwert? Hier kannst Du per Paypal etwas spenden. Hast Du eine Frage? Hinterlasse eine Sprachnachricht auf +41 77 222 33 73 per WhatsApp. Den Schweizer Minimalismus Podcast gibt es auch auf iTunes, Google & Spotify. Wöchentliche Minimalismus Tipps findest Du auf unserem YouTube Kanal.

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Entertech Street

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 2, 2020 10:51


#Entertech Street 音楽プロデューサー山口哲一が世界のエンタメ✖️テクノロジーの最新ニュースをお届け 今週は ✅ #Google が訴えられた「理由」を説明できますか❓ ✅ 好調が続く #Spotify の3Q業績、解約率は初めて4%を下回る ✅ アーティストへのロイヤリティ引き上げを求めるキャンペーン「Justice At Spotify」がスタート

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Play Episode Listen Later Oct 27, 2020 49:51


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Play Episode Listen Later Jul 30, 2020 36:40


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The Camellias Bloom Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 17, 2020 38:42


*Please kindly grab your headphones/earphones for this one!* Bismillah! Assalamualaikum (Peace be upon you!) Hey Camellias! It's Friday, woohoo!!! Welcome Back! Today's Episode 5 is with Eva! A Tawainese Convert sister who shares her story on how her interest in Islam started in University. She also shares personal experiences that dive a little deep into issues we all face as humans!  Please make sure to like, follow and share your beautiful thoughts in the comments section!  Now on Apple, Google & Spotify!  **Disclaimer: Hey! The acapella you hear in the background are vocal sounds with no lyrics or instruments. **  I do not & will not respond to brothers.

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Play Episode Listen Later Jan 27, 2020 10:43


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Play Episode Listen Later Oct 16, 2019 3:13


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MessymediaU
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MessymediaU

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 30, 2019 13:10


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Play Episode Listen Later Jul 29, 2019 12:38


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Play Episode Listen Later Jun 10, 2019 8:00


ポッドキャストは衰退していくと一方的に思い込んでいたけれど、いまはAppleだけでなくGoogleやSpotifyなどポッドキャストを配信するサービスは多く、逆に盛り上がってきているみたい。いまなぜポッドキャストなのか、よくわからんが。。。 (´・ω・`)来年1月にサポートを終了する現在のWindows7PCの代わりをどうするか。現在使っている音声編集ソフトが使えなくなった場合、どうするのか。課題が尽きない私には、なんだか複雑な話。 (ーωー;)ウームム… podcasts...

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GSMC Technology Podcast Episode 130: Google, Spotify, YouTube, Fortnite

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Play Episode Listen Later Feb 21, 2019 61:20


On this replay of the GSMC Technology Podcast host Tom Dougherty discuess the recent Spotify update. He talks about reports regarding Youtube and its security software program, as well as Google's new Chrome update. He also gives updates on the Fortnite patch and the reports claiming the Nintendo Switch can be hacked. Link to Fortnite Info: https://www.gamespot.com/articles/fortnite-update-36-adds-clinger-grenade-read-patch/1100-6458452/As always, if you enjoyed the show, follow us and subscribe to the show: you can find us on iTunes or on any app that carries podcasts as well as on YouTube. Please remember to subscribe and give us a nice review. That way you’ll always be among the first to get the latest GSMC Technology Podcasts.We would like to thank our Sponsors: GSMC Podcast NetworkAdvertise with US: http://www.gsmcpodcast.com/advertise-with-us.html Website: http://www.gsmcpodcast.com/technology-podcast.html ITunes Feed :  https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/gsmc-technology-podcast/id1116874311  GSMC YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8_VuIBr88g&list=PLF8Qial15ufp2_kPKnyk7xbKH_3pYJkSs          Twitter: https://twitter.com/GSMC_Tech          Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/GSMCTechnology/  Disclaimer: The views expressed on the GSMC Technology Podcast are for entertainment purposes only. Reproduction, copying, or redistribution of The GSMC Technology Podcast without the express written consent of Golden State Media Concepts LLC is prohibited.

Berührpunkt
37: 10YearChallenge

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Play Episode Listen Later Feb 7, 2019 25:50


Ich bin wieder da mit Folge 37! Neue Woche, neues Update. Diesmal mit vielen Apple News, was in der Zukunft passieren könnte und wie sich Podcasting verändert wird. Außerdem schauen wir uns Webseiten in der Zeitmaschine an und werden zu richtigen Nerds! ====== - Gut Feeling - Apple News - Apple blockt Facebook - Apple blockt Google - Spotify kauft Anchor - Spotify News - 10 Year Design Challenge - DnD Blog: marvinmessenzehl.com Twitter & Instagram: @yoomarvin Music by: soundcloud.com/lakeyinspired

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Play Episode Listen Later May 29, 2018 16:11


Con la reciente incorporación de Spotify y Google al sector del podcasting, nos preguntamos qué impacto pueden tener a corto y largo plazo sobre nuestro mundillo. Además, analizamos cómo afecta la práctica del rehosting a la medición de estadísticas, de la mano de Ángel Jiménez de Luis (Cuonda) y Javier Garau (Ración de NBA).

Cuaderno de Podcasting
Página 10: Google, Spotify y las estadísticas de tu podcast

Cuaderno de Podcasting

Play Episode Listen Later May 29, 2018 16:11


Con la reciente incorporación de Spotify y Google al sector del podcasting, nos preguntamos qué impacto pueden tener a corto y largo plazo sobre nuestro mundillo. Además, analizamos cómo afecta la práctica del rehosting a la medición de estadísticas, de la mano de Ángel Jiménez de Luis (Cuonda) y Javier Garau (Ración de NBA).

Promopodcast
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Promopodcast

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 25, 2018 29:08


Hoy toca sacar varios temas y ponerlos encima de la mesa de este capítulo 128 de Promopodcast. Empiezo con una mirada muy crítica al asunto de la transcripción completa del contenido de nuestros podcasts y la poca utilidad que creo que ello tiene. Continuaré escéptico, en esta ocasión con los "grandes planes" de Google para el podcasting y sigo explicando cómo Spreaker nos permite mandar nuestros podcasts a Spotify sin firmar acuerdos globales ni nada.Escucharemos a Marc Milián explicar cómo graba sus podcasts 4 ventanas y Un paseo por Shanghai y aprovecharé para explicaros por qué me tienta el Sennheiser ClipMic.Patrocinado por Podrover, un servicio que recoge para ti las reseñas que va recibiendo tu podcast en todos los países en los que iTunes lo publica, enviándotelas por email o por Slack y permitiéndote así estar al corriente del feedback más importante del podcasting actual. En Emilcar FM usamos Podrover y tú puedes conocer su servicio durante treinta días sin compromiso y un descuento inicial del 10% desde http://podrover.com/promopodcastBusca los enlaces de este episodio en https://emilcar.fm/promopodcast donde también esperamos tus comentarios.

Promopodcast
Transcripciones, Google, Spotify y otros temas

Promopodcast

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 25, 2018 29:08


Hoy toca sacar varios temas y ponerlos encima de la mesa de este capítulo 128 de Promopodcast. Empiezo con una mirada muy crítica al asunto de la transcripción completa del contenido de nuestros podcasts y la poca utilidad que creo que ello tiene. Continuaré escéptico, en esta ocasión con los "grandes planes" de Google para el podcasting y sigo explicando cómo Spreaker nos permite mandar nuestros podcasts a Spotify sin firmar acuerdos globales ni nada.Escucharemos a Marc Milián explicar cómo graba sus podcasts 4 ventanas y Un paseo por Shanghai y aprovecharé para explicaros por qué me tienta el Sennheiser ClipMic.Patrocinado por Podrover, un servicio que recoge para ti las reseñas que va recibiendo tu podcast en todos los países en los que iTunes lo publica, enviándotelas por email o por Slack y permitiéndote así estar al corriente del feedback más importante del podcasting actual. En Emilcar FM usamos Podrover y tú puedes conocer su servicio durante treinta días sin compromiso y un descuento inicial del 10% desde http://podrover.com/promopodcastBusca los enlaces de este episodio en https://emilcar.fm/promopodcast donde también esperamos tus comentarios.